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<v Speaker 1>So if he's got some good hairs and feel, this

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<v Speaker 1>is too good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just the flat that he's one, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>way he's played the match.

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<v Speaker 1>That he has a candy bar and an RC coke.

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<v Speaker 1>You are kidding me.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on market down.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Might have caught some unbelievble energy to the court with

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<v Speaker 2>the fans and then with his player as well, and

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<v Speaker 2>with his personality. So it was very, very refreshing to

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<v Speaker 2>play against an appoint like.

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<v Speaker 3>This, you know, who draws in the crowds and come

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<v Speaker 3>with some.

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<v Speaker 1>Great shop making. I'm not sure he can play on grass.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Two days in a row of podcasting. They said it

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't be done. In fact, they said, please don't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But we don't listen to we Marcus.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we just we do what we want.

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<v Speaker 2>So in case you're late to the party, here we

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<v Speaker 2>are counting down to wimbled and the World's Great Tennis

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<v Speaker 2>Tournament where new Marcus will be playing next week. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing a little daily update and letting daylight in

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<v Speaker 2>upon magic. Really a peak behind a curtain of how

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<v Speaker 2>a top doubles player prepares to play one of the

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<v Speaker 2>world's greatest sports events. Yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, yeah, Oh you just want an end sight of

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<v Speaker 3>what was I thought. You're being informative there and telling people.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm absolutely I'm a tennis coach and I'm absolutely rushed

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<v Speaker 2>off my feet this time of year. You're here, there

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<v Speaker 2>and everywhere preparing for your play, which is seven days away,

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<v Speaker 2>possibly depending on your drawer, six or seven days.

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<v Speaker 1>Six or seven yeah mm hm.

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<v Speaker 2>And so look, we can't promise the best quality of

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<v Speaker 2>audio right now. You're standing outside Stoke Park where you're

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<v Speaker 2>playing an exhibition match on grass today. As part of

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<v Speaker 2>this preparation, I've kind of managed to set up a

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<v Speaker 2>laptop in a tiny corner of the tennis club. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's more about like the content, and once the Grand

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<v Speaker 2>Slam's over, we'll get back to proper podcasting regularly. So Marcus,

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<v Speaker 2>where are you right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Mate?

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<v Speaker 3>I am in Stoke Park playing the Boodles events. So

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<v Speaker 3>Stoke Park is all I know. It's it's relatively near slow,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's in it's a very nice setting. I think

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<v Speaker 3>someone was saying that I can't remember the name of

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<v Speaker 3>the film, but Goldfinger has been that the place has

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<v Speaker 3>been used to set in Goldfinger and there was one.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Craig was then as well before he became Bond.

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<v Speaker 1>Really any ideas of films are you're good at films?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty good at films. I've watched more films than

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<v Speaker 2>I do series of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I feel like I'm a bit out of.

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<v Speaker 2>The loop when there's series of this and that because

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<v Speaker 2>don't really don't really follow that. So but films, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all rver films.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So it's a really nice setting.

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<v Speaker 2>And what is boodles and why because that's what's seen

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<v Speaker 2>Stoke Park.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yes, exactly, So that's an event that I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Demon was about to play now against Poppy Rin. Players

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<v Speaker 3>use it. It's fairly close to London, so they get

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of matches in on the grass. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>very nice event. A lot of nice jewelry everywhere, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>players use it to get some matches in before Wimbledon,

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<v Speaker 3>make a little bit of cash and and people love it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very relaxed day. So it's exhibitions. There's two

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<v Speaker 3>sets and a match tiebreak for singles as well. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going people use it to fine tune. I actually

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<v Speaker 3>came here when I was younger because I used to

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<v Speaker 3>train at Bisham as a hitter and that was when

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<v Speaker 3>Vedasko and Jokovic used to play it as well, So

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<v Speaker 3>they've had some very big names over the years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and now they've got Marcus Willison today.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, sure, I mean, Helicopter's crowd control. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>there isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>All the security Guadza on edge.

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<v Speaker 2>Now yeah, well, I mean talk about your opponents today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Marthalla Aravello, number one in the world, normally plays

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<v Speaker 3>with Pavac, but he's playing with Rohumba Para today who was.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I can't remember which, but very experienced. It's exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm lucky. Last few weeks have been amazing. I've played

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, defending Winmoden Champions and then played Jamie

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<v Speaker 3>Murray and Ram the other day and now, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>get to test my game against the best player in

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<v Speaker 3>the world. So it's super cool for me, as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not used to playing at this level week in

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<v Speaker 3>week out, and the last three weeks have been pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And next week's.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah quite what's Look, it's an exhibition, so I

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<v Speaker 2>presume these guys aren't kind of full out or are they?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it depends who you play.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I played singles years ago and I played you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've played guys that go full out, and I've played

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<v Speaker 3>Malek's Deery and we had a bit of fun. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, people you're not dying to win, but you're

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<v Speaker 3>wanting to play well, you know before wimble and so

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<v Speaker 3>it will be they'll be trying to perform well whilst

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<v Speaker 3>having a bit of fun. But no, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to be diving for balls at you know,

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<v Speaker 3>nine or on a tie break, but yeah, it will be.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends how the guys want to play. You pick

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<v Speaker 1>up a vibe pretty early on.

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<v Speaker 3>But obviously it's not going to be you know, hitting

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<v Speaker 3>tween the serves and mans or barami stuff. Now you

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<v Speaker 3>lay there and trying to play well but also trying

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<v Speaker 3>to make it fun for the crowd as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the big difference you said about these top

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<v Speaker 2>top players, and that I mean both former world number one,

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<v Speaker 2>current world number one, four Grand Slam titles between him,

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<v Speaker 2>forty ATP doubles titles between him. What's the big difference

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<v Speaker 2>between them and the folks that you're playing on a

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<v Speaker 3>Basis difference I've the biggest difference I've felt so far

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<v Speaker 3>is when they're both up at the net establishers. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the court feels very small and they they don't really

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<v Speaker 3>miss many volleys. Jamie Murray's follies and rams dollies were incredible,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought the other day, you know, they don't they

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<v Speaker 3>don't really miss them. Even if you throw a kitchen

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<v Speaker 3>stink of them, they'll put it back in an awkward position.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, once once top doubles payers are established

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<v Speaker 3>at the nets, very hard to get round and over them.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, I think in doubles as are a lot

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<v Speaker 3>closer the levels than singles, you know. As you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I can play someone three or four hundred in the

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<v Speaker 3>world and doubles and lose the match. In a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of weeks ago, he beat the tenth best player in

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not a different player, you know, obviously, I

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<v Speaker 3>think everyone say as well at this level as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But the biggest, the biggest different once are established of

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<v Speaker 3>the nets, it's very tricky to get the ball around them,

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<v Speaker 3>and they put you know, Bolli's an awkward spots blown

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<v Speaker 3>off the court the last few weeks, but again it's

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<v Speaker 3>graph as well. So I think you go and play

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<v Speaker 3>granoidas and and the clay, I think I'd have a

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<v Speaker 3>very different answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. Yeah, well, I mean, do you go into something

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<v Speaker 2>like today with an idea of fine tuning, refining or

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<v Speaker 2>practicing something that you see as an important part of

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<v Speaker 2>your performance at Wimbledon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's the perfect time for me to work on things,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe hit over a few more returns than

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<v Speaker 3>then I'm used to try and find some sort of

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<v Speaker 3>rhythm there, you know, try a couple of serfs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that I normally wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Just just go go for things and see where my

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to do it here and just try and find

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<v Speaker 3>rhythm in my game. And you know, see what what

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<v Speaker 3>see what? See what feels good right now and what doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>That kind of leads me on to practice a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>When you see doubles at the level you're playing, is

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<v Speaker 2>serv and volley is so prominent, isn't it serving and

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<v Speaker 2>being good at the net as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Volume, But like what is that like the main focus

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<v Speaker 2>of your practice and practices.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean a lot of what I'm working on now

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<v Speaker 3>is movement as a service partner and returners partner, trying

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, become you know, like a top doubles

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<v Speaker 3>furcause once your partner makes a return, you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>be trying to make noise or getting your opponents visuals

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. So a lot of what I do

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<v Speaker 3>is is actually looking at how these guys move and

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<v Speaker 3>practicing that in the court. Obviously understone to keep working

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<v Speaker 3>on the surf, but there's there's kind of a limit

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<v Speaker 3>of how many I can do. Obviously, I'm had had

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<v Speaker 3>an elbow problem a couple of years ago, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>over tie your arm and get yourself injured by over

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<v Speaker 3>wrapping serfs. So it's about fine tuning the shots and

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, working on your movement and timing of your

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<v Speaker 3>movement as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Following from yesterday's podcast, we've had a question from Craig

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<v Speaker 2>who says, how important is Wimbledon to you in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of ranking points and income? It'd just say to you,

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<v Speaker 2>So I presume that wasn't aimed.

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<v Speaker 1>At me, No guest thing it's aimed at me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but in terms of my income is terrible because

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<v Speaker 2>I go as a punter and buy a PIMS which

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<v Speaker 2>you can pay off in nine easily monthly installments, so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you can, yeah if you just get one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>look it's important, but it's yeah, there's there's there's more

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<v Speaker 3>money at Grand Slams than there are in other tournaments.

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<v Speaker 1>First round, it's it's like Queens.

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<v Speaker 3>If you win the first round, you get ninety points.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very similar to Queens, but sort of doubles as

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<v Speaker 3>you get through the round. So yeah, look at it's

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<v Speaker 3>massive if I can win around at wimbled and it

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<v Speaker 3>jumps me up of it. But it's not, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not until you're in the court of Semis finals where

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<v Speaker 3>it starts getting life changing. But it's just playing at Wimbledon's,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a massive success for me. This past year

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<v Speaker 3>has been quite difficult, so just being there is great,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll try and treat it like any other match.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds stupid, I know it's not, but I'll try

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<v Speaker 3>and stay calm and get fired up and enjoy the

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<v Speaker 3>experience and that's when I'll play my best tennis and

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<v Speaker 3>not too much about thinking about point some prize money

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<v Speaker 3>for the next round, because then you take your off

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<v Speaker 3>the game and you know it's good to be there.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a good opportunity. I don't know the drawer yet,

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<v Speaker 3>but just take it one day at a time. But yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 3>it's important if you can do where that ground slams

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<v Speaker 3>it obviously financially it's a lot better, and points wise

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<v Speaker 3>it's much better as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's a cutoff, isn't there With the doubles, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a number that you're trying to reach where you get

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<v Speaker 2>automatic entry into Masters and slams.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy five in the world as the target. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to eighty one.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year, and yeah, exactly, seventy five is where you

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<v Speaker 3>need to be to be in the main rule of slams.

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<v Speaker 3>And then if you want to be in the Master's thousands,

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<v Speaker 3>you've gotta be top thirty, so there's different jumps. And

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<v Speaker 3>then if you want to be needed in the Masters,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to be top ten, top twenty. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's loads of different jumps, loads of different things

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<v Speaker 3>to focus on. But my next goal is my next

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<v Speaker 3>you know, my match at wimbledone next week, and then

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<v Speaker 3>trying even proving and yeah, this is the prize.

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<v Speaker 1>Money is is great.

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<v Speaker 3>I can invest in some coaching because you know, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got to where I've got by myself pretty much. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>I've had financial support, very kindly of financial support, but

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<v Speaker 3>I've not been able to, you know, get a coach,

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like I've plateaued there. So I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I've got a lot to improve. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>where I'll be looking to spend some money there on

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's so fascinating. I mean, how hard is

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<v Speaker 2>tennis like? When I speak to you and there's someone

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<v Speaker 2>of your ability and credibility you are very flippant about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just concentrate one match at a time

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. Normal people like me and probably

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<v Speaker 2>nearly every single one of the listeners, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be like we wouldn't sleep now, right, we'd be heaving

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<v Speaker 2>and just shaking. But also just how tough is tennis

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<v Speaker 2>like to be one of the best in the world

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<v Speaker 2>at what you do and having to make decisions around

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<v Speaker 2>can I get a coach? It's just ridiculous. If you

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<v Speaker 2>were the one hundredth best left back in football, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>have a solid gold yacht.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just I mean, it is the way it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, it's kind of and it's the choice I make,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and my whole family has made. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>when I was younger, it's I don't have to do it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just I love playing tennis and it's not

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<v Speaker 3>something I can do in twenty yeth time. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of those things that you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>Then I could do other things.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I can do it whilst whilst playing the

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<v Speaker 3>sport I love, then you know, what a great life.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, it is hard. It's very hard.

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<v Speaker 3>And like as you know, some months are pretty tough

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<v Speaker 3>when you can't pick up wins and you're traveling around

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<v Speaker 3>the world and you're tired and away from the family,

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<v Speaker 3>and you do think what's the point sometimes, But that's

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<v Speaker 3>why I take it very much. Twenty four hours at

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<v Speaker 3>a time that seems to work.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's twenty past two as we record on the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixth of June. What are you doing now? When

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<v Speaker 2>are you on court? What's your little routine before you

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<v Speaker 2>go on.

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<v Speaker 3>Not before five, so it's different. I'll do the same

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<v Speaker 3>physical warm up that I'll do at a tournament, just

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm old Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to get injured.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a light hit, warmer shots up, but there's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be any specifics I work on today before

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<v Speaker 3>the match. Just just warm up all the shots, all

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<v Speaker 3>your strokes, make sure my shoulders firing, and go out

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<v Speaker 3>there probably around five half five because demon All's playing

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<v Speaker 3>first against Poppy and there's another match after and then

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<v Speaker 3>it's us, so I'll probably hit around three point thirty

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<v Speaker 3>or four and then yeah, go out there and have fun,

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<v Speaker 3>see what happens. But it's quite nice that you can

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<v Speaker 3>go and challenge yourself and you don't you know, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no results on the line, there's no points on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just go. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the perfect thing to do for me before wimbledinness,

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<v Speaker 3>go and see where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 2>Best of luck, mate. I can't wait to catch up

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow and find out how it went and what we learned,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, just hear about what it is like playing

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<v Speaker 2>the current world number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's do it.