WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:04.839 Something's going to happen? 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:15.519 What? What's going to happen? What? 3 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:30.800 Where Egyptians were like inducting Kabala into their magical workings 4 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:32.640 and stuff like that. And I'm not an expert on that, 5 00:00:32.679 --> 00:00:37.119 but from what little I have looked at, it seems 6 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:39.600 like Alexandria was a melting pot where you had this 7 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:41.719 fusion of Egyptian and Jewish. 8 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:44.640 Yeah, I totally agree with that. 9 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:47.920 To him, I think. I think also in one of 10 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:50.079 the interviews I saw, I heard that they are looking 11 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:54.759 at more of the Greek concept of black or what 12 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:58.679 is it left hand path was more a un forgiven 13 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:06.040 agent uh Middle Eastern Indian translation to me woman, and 14 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:10.319 that it was the opposite of right and that, and 15 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:14.920 they were more adhering to the Greek belief system where 16 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:19.879 it was the absence of something, not the anti something. 17 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:22.000 It was just the absence just not there. It was 18 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:24.840 waiting for the light. It was waiting to be permeated 19 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:29.519 by light. Again, these are just what I heard, but 20 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:33.680 I will say I believe like Stemen Flowers, he was 21 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:36.519 the one that I think was a student of Aquino 22 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:44.000 and he basically resurrected all Germanic ruin runology, didn't he absolutely, 23 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:49.519 And so Stephen Flowers is Don Webbs, and Don Webb 24 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:51.159 was steam Flowers. 25 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:56.000 Initiate, right, Stephen Flowers initiated. 26 00:01:56.760 --> 00:01:57.319 Yes, thank you. 27 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:01.040 So Stephen Flowers was heavily influenced by that guy I 28 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:05.439 mentioned ear there, Guido von Least. Okay, so this is 29 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:07.480 what I'm trying to not you guys, but I'm trying 30 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:10.560 to tell people today, go look at some of these 31 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:12.520 people like Guido von Least. If you want to know 32 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:15.400 what the Nazis believed in, what they wanted to do, 33 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:19.840 look at their influences. Look at Rudolph bon sivatandor Guido 34 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:24.000 von Least or Allowance von Liebensfield's. These are the occultists 35 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:28.800 that influenced the Nazis. So, but Flowers is an interesting 36 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:33.039 case because he got so deep into the Runa and 37 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:36.159 the rune magic, and that's a fascinating deep dive for sure. 38 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:43.919 But what you see today is sugarcoating this. And they'll 39 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:49.800 call it anything, but you know, German occultism, mysticism, romanticism. 40 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:54.159 I would argue that it's just straight up old German occultism, 41 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:56.039 and it was a revival of that. 42 00:02:57.479 --> 00:02:59.479 But I wonder how much to kind of go back 43 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:02.159 to what we go who was asking is that it 44 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:08.680 was a tug of war between magical factions. They're wanting 45 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:13.000 not only to conquer land, but they're also wanting to 46 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:17.960 have their belief system to be the I guess thought 47 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:20.400 for the land. I don't know, because you start to 48 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.639 hear this tug of war between Germanic and French, between 49 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:28.240 its and what is it Hungarian right or Turkish, and 50 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:31.439 so then you have the whole influence from the East 51 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:34.240 coming through Turkey and Greek, and then you have the 52 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:36.080 tug of war with the Jewish, and then you have 53 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.360 everybody kind of coalescing in Spain and the eleven hundreds. 54 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:46.280 We have everyone. The whole thought was there, Christian, Islam, Jewish, Mason, 55 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:48.319 I mean, just all of them, and they're all conjoining, 56 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:51.039 and they're all talking and they're all writing. So I 57 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:54.400 wonder how much of it is just warring factions amongst 58 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:56.719 each other. And that is a very elementary way to 59 00:03:56.800 --> 00:03:58.759 look at it, because I have no very little. 60 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:03.560 That's not elementary at all. He said, that's I was thinking, obviously, 61 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:05.919 plus altar the whole time. It's obviously the motto of 62 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:09.520 the Row family of Spain. So obviously it's really interesting 63 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:11.759 and I yeah, the eleven hundreds was like a revival. 64 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:13.759 That's kind of how I think of it. Like you 65 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.839 see these little maybe every three four hundred years, you 66 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:19.800 see these kind of like coalescing, and it's exactly what 67 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:23.959 they do. They battle over ideologies, they battle over territory. 68 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:29.079 Maybe the territory is part of the ideological layer, so 69 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:31.720 we're tied to it, you. 70 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:32.800 Know what I was going to say too. 71 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:35.639 Even with Germany, Tim when you was mentioning this guy 72 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:39.120 who built that castle one, I would not doubt if 73 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.480 Himler was kind of ripping him off, because a lot 74 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:44.120 of occultists through that, in my opinion, they just kind 75 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:45.959 of take somebody else's older idea that they think is 76 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:50.240 impressive and try to make it themselves. At some point 77 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:51.759 in the sixteen hundreds, around the time I think the 78 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:54.879 Rosa Cruisian Manifestos thought had popping up, there was tons 79 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:57.079 of occultists for some reason. I mean, we've covered them 80 00:04:57.120 --> 00:04:59.079 on the show. It's just like, oh, another one went 81 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:01.199 to Germany, another one one that we're covering some reason. 82 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:04.800 I'm wondering if these castles are where he wanted to 83 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:08.680 put it or anything is even like significant to an 84 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:09.720 area for some reason. 85 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:12.279 Yeah, I think I think there was. Man, that's a 86 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:15.680 I mean, that's a great assessment. There's more to the 87 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:21.279 castles in the case of Vivelsburg. You know, Wikipedia will 88 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:24.879 tell you it goes back to I don't remember, maybe 89 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:27.160 the fifteen hundred or something. Don't quote me on that, 90 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:31.920 but him where said it went back to the first 91 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:36.519 century a D. So he knew something everybody else didn't know. 92 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:40.120 A Quino also knew that it went back to the 93 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:44.160 first century a D. So they they liked that spot 94 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:45.040 for some reason. 95 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:47.959 You know this, how you think would this interests me 96 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:48.600 in the sense? 97 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:50.959 Maybe this is where Ricardo was wondering, is like, if 98 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:53.399 they're interested in that, is it because they're into something 99 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:55.920 a little bit more advanced, Like are they looking to 100 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:59.560 build castles in certain nodes or certain areas to make 101 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:00.439 certain it happened? 102 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:00.839 I don't know. 103 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:05.560 Yeah, because the castle Vivelsburg was built on an older fortification. 104 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:08.480 That that's what this is about. That the older fortification 105 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:14.399 was put there for I'm assuming maybe mystical reasons in 106 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:17.600 the first century AD. They they chose that location for 107 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:19.199 I don't know, lay lines, if you want to get 108 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:22.319 into that kind of stuff Earth for vortex areas whatever. 109 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:25.560 Maybe it was just a spiritual valley that they liked. 110 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:30.000 And when that fortification began to crumble, they come in. 111 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:31.720 They're like, well, we're just going to keep using this 112 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:34.279 location and we're going to build something bigger and badder here. 113 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:40.000 So they put Vivelsburg there, and somehow that information as 114 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:42.319 to why it was the location was chosen in the 115 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:45.959 first place got lost, but the occultist knew about it. 116 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:51.720 So and I mean, all the all the castles across 117 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:58.399 Europe have these strange, cool, fun like occult like facts 118 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:02.079 about them. I mean, it's you know, I don't know. 119 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:05.920 Auto Ron is another German occultist. He's the guy that 120 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:09.959 Himmler had looking for the Grail. Otto roan Uh wrote 121 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:13.720 a book called Lucifer's Core. It's a really good book. 122 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:17.040 I actually recommend it, where he goes all across France 123 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:20.079 and Spain and visits all the castles there. He tells 124 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:23.040 you the history and he talks about how the Catholic 125 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:27.800 Church came in and killed all the the Cathars. But 126 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:30.600 he goes into all the mystical sort of history of 127 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:34.120 the of the castles themselves. It's very dense, it's cool stuff. 128 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:39.519 Ethan, what's going on? But yeah, this guy ain't coming on, Ethan. Yeah, 129 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:41.560 oh yeah yeah. 130 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:42.839 When I was like all right, I was like, maybe 131 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:44.279 he was looking waiting for me to say, like if 132 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:46.120 he was coming on. And after like after I got 133 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:49.040 the email that he can't make it because of issues, 134 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:50.240 I was like, well, Ethan designed him. 135 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:51.519 Maybe just wasn't jumping on anyway. 136 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:55.839 So I no, I was just tolif blaking. 137 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.519 In fact, I thought it was two o'clock, start west, 138 00:07:58.600 --> 00:07:59.720 goat h. 139 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:07.160 That's really interesting, though, Tim, what you were saying before 140 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:10.759 about the castles, and like I always think like altarstones, 141 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:14.279 so it's like a very like in contra, that would 142 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:18.120 be the logical step, Like you would take the altarstone 143 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.639 of whatever they were doing, whether it was bad. If 144 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:22.759 it was bad, then you have to like purify it, 145 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:27.439 maybe like enshrine it. So then like people's accumulated prayers 146 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:34.080 would like purify the negative space. You could say. I 147 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:36.320 don't know, but I also like the idea of the laylance. 148 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:38.639 I think that that's very true because it's like Europe 149 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:41.000 and like Lisa was saying, there's like a French faction 150 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:43.879 that are very Libertine or Luciferian and they're like, yeah, 151 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:46.159 if we build it, we can do anything. We don't 152 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:48.679 have to worship the pyramids in Egypt, we can just 153 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:49.600 build them right here. 154 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:53.080 Do those castles have moats around them too? 155 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:54.799 Like? 156 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:56.799 I really do think there something up with these castles? 157 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:57.720 Are these supposed to use? 158 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:00.759 Yeah, I do think there's something up to say, listen, 159 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:02.440 they might have used them for military reasons, but I 160 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:05.399 think that was like maybe a cover. 161 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:11.519 Is always built in areas where the rivers have curves 162 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:16.000 tight curves, or there is a lot of fault areas 163 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.639 in terms of producing microscience, seismology constant that produces the 164 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:27.080 humuh And and you find it all over. If you 165 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:32.200 look at cattle and Atlas, you'll see that every single 166 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:36.679 religious site or whatever you want to call it, it's 167 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:39.519 on a river band. Every idiot new you see it 168 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:41.559 by that. By the monuments today, they are all by 169 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:48.240 river bands always, so there's very little exceptions. And do 170 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:50.759 you have do you have any mention of them going 171 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:54.559 to a latri in Italy since the Nazis took to 172 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:56.240 Italy back on the day. 173 00:09:57.639 --> 00:10:04.240 Tim, Uh, well, well, there's you mean, like the Germans 174 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:06.240 being in Italy. I'm sorry, what was your question? 175 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:10.320 If you know anything about the that kind of Nazi 176 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:16.320 presence in Italy like in Alatri or in Gropparrello castle, 177 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:17.639 do you know anything. 178 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:21.320 About Oh no, I know that they had a Hitler 179 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:23.440 was friends with Mussolini. So I don't know that the 180 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:29.200 Nazis went in those regions to invade. 181 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:32.480 Because yeah, sure not to invade, but since there were 182 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:36.480 Allied they could have used those installations because they are 183 00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:41.600 known to be functional. So both Groparrello and Alatri, that's 184 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:42.360 why I was asking. 185 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:45.559 I'd have to look into that. That's interesting. Yeah, those 186 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:47.799 are those are two locations I don't know much about, 187 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:49.720 but they sound sound pretty neat. 188 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:53.559 And that castle that you mentioned that I don't know 189 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:55.960 how to pronounce it, but do you know if it 190 00:10:56.039 --> 00:11:00.600 has underground areas like I put hypogems like most of 191 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:00.960 them have. 192 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:05.120 Well they certainly. I don't know if Biblsburg did. It 193 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:07.840 had chambers, but I don't know how dent or how 194 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:11.600 deep into the ground it was. But there was a 195 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:15.799 castle that the Nazis took in Poland called Kasai Castle, 196 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:21.799 and it had a dense, extensive underground tunnel system that 197 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:25.759 they added to and they put their German secret weapons 198 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:28.679 project down there. They put a guy down there named 199 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:32.200 Hans Kamler who was like a genius. And you know, 200 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:35.279 were the not you you asked earlier, were the Nazis 201 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:38.399 working on did you say anti gravity or portals? 202 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:38.759 Yes? 203 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:42.559 Yes, yes, this guy was working on that sort of 204 00:11:42.559 --> 00:11:46.240 stuff in my opinion, down there underneath of a castle, 205 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:48.960 so in the ground. 206 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:53.519 You might not notice. I didn't know it until I 207 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:57.240 finally found these two books that unfortunately only exists in German. 208 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:02.080 So it took me quite a while Tom because they're 209 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:04.200 too big to put in an Ai and he gives 210 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:06.879 me the translation they're just way too big. It doesn't 211 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:12.279 accept them. But the funny thing is there is these 212 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:20.240 two professional, reputed, well known spaleologists in Austria, right and 213 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:25.120 they are following the threat of the underground areas all 214 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:28.399 over Europe that we don't talk about. And so in 215 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:35.440 this book is documented Austria as a complete Swiss cheese underneath, 216 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:41.559 coming from the palaces the castles. And the fact that 217 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:44.320 it is curious to me is that there are other 218 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:48.240 spaleologists from other countries in Europe, and so they claim 219 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:52.759 there is a network of tunnels from the UK to 220 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:59.480 Turkey without interruption. So the problem is, yeah, this is 221 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:02.840 completely put under down the rug. They are not allowed 222 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:05.600 to have any exposition on this. They're just not allowed. 223 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:11.600 And so the funny part to me is that these 224 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:17.480 tunnels are polished, built in like this, the position of 225 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:20.639 the ceiling is like this, and the walls are very smooth. 226 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:24.799 The problem is that I don't know if anyone can 227 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:27.919 translate this to feet, but the tunnels are one point 228 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:31.679 five meters in height and the shoulders of a high 229 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:37.000 man cannot go there without going scraping. So whatever created 230 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:40.120 these tunnels and use them as a means of communication 231 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:43.759 to other areas, because there are very few galleries, it's 232 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:50.879 just tunnels, right that use them were not human stature. 233 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:54.639 They couldn't be. And the other thing that is curious 234 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:57.240 is all over the place when they are still in 235 00:13:57.240 --> 00:14:00.159 the wild, because many of these entrants were blocked by 236 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:04.039 putting massive buildings on top of it, right, and these 237 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.639 buildings have to this day access. I had a lady 238 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:10.759 from Austria after my article saying, oh, it's true. In 239 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:14.120 my village there is this cafe and in that cafe 240 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:17.200 there's still the entrance and it's all tunnels around here. 241 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:20.759 All beneath us is all tunnels. They've been here, they documented, 242 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:26.360 but it never managed to publish it. So the curious 243 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:29.440 thing to me is that this is done by very 244 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:34.320 small people and at some point it seems to have 245 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:40.000 been a disagreement or an accord because there were heavily 246 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:45.559 heavy piles of rock transported into the tunnels by men 247 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:49.120 and blocking the passages as serving the connection between the 248 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:52.960 underworld and the surface, So whatever is living in the 249 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:56.879 underworld will be closed. There no more communication with outside 250 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:00.960 and vice versa. So this is just a rabbit hole 251 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:04.679 that I unlocked just a few days ago. But it's 252 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:08.440 it's fascinating because it's highly suppressed, but there is high 253 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:12.639 there is lots of documentation and how it is, so 254 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:15.440 they just don't allow us to access it, or don't 255 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:20.159 allow these guys to publish it. But they found at 256 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:27.240 least six hundred tunnels all around just this small village 257 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:30.639 in Austria, and they have been documented in the rest 258 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:33.120 all over the place. So this goes for miles that 259 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:36.360 it never ending. The tunnels never end, they just keep 260 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:39.519 on going. And the humans used part of it. And 261 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:41.919 do you see where the humans used because they enlarged 262 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:43.960 the ceiling. They made it square so that they can 263 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:46.519 fit and hide, and they made larger galleries. 264 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:51.360 This is a. 265 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:56.440 Little person that was found out west. It's real. It 266 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:58.519 has a rib cage and it has it has ripped. 267 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:02.159 It has ribs, and it has traces of internal organs 268 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:06.840 and it was said to be This is where it 269 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:09.159 gets crazy because it was only said to be a 270 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:11.759 couple of inches when it's standing, well not more than 271 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.399 a couple but like let's see sitting in the sitting position, 272 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.720 it's like six inches, so maybe it was like eleven 273 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:22.919 inches standing or something like that. And the Cherokee talked 274 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:25.039 about this over here in North America. They talked about 275 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:28.559 the Cherokee little people. They were an Inner Earth species. 276 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:32.840 There's an herbalist who talks about this. His name is 277 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:36.039 Michael Matthew. Would sorry at least if you if you're 278 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:39.120 interested in this. So there's a like a whole and 279 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:42.200 like la like Timiss saying, it's not just the Cherokee 280 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:44.960 or even the sort of Cherokee speakers like the five 281 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:49.960 civilized tribes. Algonquin people also speak about this, so Matthew 282 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:51.399 would he has a whole book on this. 283 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:56.840 It's interesting because there is a species of I guess 284 00:16:56.840 --> 00:17:04.759 Homo sapien that was discovered and called Homo floren floriensis, 285 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:12.119 and they're called the floras man. So it reminds me 286 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:18.240 of that, and how like British rule had transported a 287 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:23.680 lot of their prisoners to undesirables to Australia. Not that 288 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:27.599 they were transporting these people, but it. 289 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:32.880 Just and there isn't any aboriginal information about them. 290 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.480 I haven't looked. I just remember it being on a 291 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:38.240 news article. 292 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:41.559 There are still there are still like what we call 293 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:46.000 Negritos who live in Indonesia and the Philippines, like exactly 294 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.200 what you're talking about, like even on the island of Forests, 295 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.319 and they are actually a small people from Solowezi tend 296 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:55.160 to be the shortest of all Southeast Asians just in general. 297 00:17:55.759 --> 00:17:59.240 So I don't know, I think that probably blended and 298 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:03.440 eventually we're Cardo. I'm just kind of like generic Indonesian. 299 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:07.720 Most of the I'm sorry, most of the indigenous people 300 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.519 of the US around the Equator closest to the equator 301 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:14.519 are very short. That's just I think more of them 302 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:16.720 when I forget the biological term for it. And it 303 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:19.839 occurs in animals too. The closer to the equator, the 304 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:24.279 smaller the animal. The further out, like more towards the 305 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:27.119 northern latitudes, the bigger the animal because of surface area 306 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:29.400 and heat exchange and all that other stuff. But if 307 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:32.559 you look at some of the indigenous people even today, 308 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:36.880 when they crossover, you can tell, oh, that one's probably 309 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:42.240 from Central America because the the the indigenous people like 310 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:45.039 up in Texas, like around San Antonio area and stuff 311 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:48.279 like that, much taller. There's six five versus. 312 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:51.359 That's really interesting because they're really tall up here too. Yeah, 313 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:54.160 you can always tell, like Native guys are super tall. 314 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:57.160 Yes, very much so. And then you have some American 315 00:18:57.240 --> 00:18:59.519 like the buy In and stuff like that that are 316 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:01.319 bare clearing four eleven. 317 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:08.359 Over here in Tennessee. Up into the nineteen hundreds, they 318 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:12.400 were finding graves of these little people as well. I 319 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:14.640 have a bunch of articles. I've got one here pulled 320 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:17.920 up on my phone. This is from the Anthropological Institute 321 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.240 Journal from eighteen seventy six, and it says an ancient 322 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:26.359 graveyard of fast proportions has been found in Coffee County. 323 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:29.559 It's similar to those found in White County and other 324 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.000 places in Middle Tennessee. And I'll just stop real quick 325 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:35.279 and say that I'm familiar with the White County case 326 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:39.519 as well. This farmer basically dug up thousands of bodies 327 00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:43.279 of entities or humanoids or whatever they are. They were 328 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:45.599 eighteen inches tall. They look like people, but they were 329 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:51.680 just that's a good question because it doesn't say I. 330 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:52.599 Should I go get it? 331 00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:55.319 Yeah, go get it. 332 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:57.240 Yeah. 333 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:01.599 But this one goes on to say this grave site 334 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:04.319 is vastly more extensive and shows that the race of 335 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:10.279 pygmies who once inhabited this country were very numerous. But 336 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:14.079 I don't want to read this whole thing, but if 337 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:16.680 there's anything, okay, A man was piling in a field 338 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:19.559 and had been cultivating many years and plowed up a 339 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:24.079 man's skull and other bones. After making a further examination, 340 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:26.960 they found that there were about six acres in the graveyard. 341 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:30.599 They were buried, so the little people were buried in 342 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:35.119 a sitting or standing position. The bones showed that they 343 00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:38.400 were a dwarf tribe of people about three feet high. 344 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:41.720 So these okay, so this one, these were three feet tall. 345 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:44.960 The ones in White County weren't even They were like 346 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:48.519 eighteen inches. So there's varying decrease of height here. 347 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:51.759 Sure don't you have that Indian lady that is like 348 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:59.119 a palm and a half high? Ye, your muted. 349 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:03.200 Listen, I was trying to avoid hearing mean type. Yes, 350 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:04.160 she's very small. 351 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:05.799 I totally forget about that. 352 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:08.440 Oh can I just omit? Throw this party and I'll 353 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:12.279 shut up. It's estimated that they were about seventy five 354 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:18.680 thousand to one hundred thousand bodies buried there, all seated. 355 00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:23.640 They were either sitting or standing. They were buried in 356 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:27.559 a standing position or seating or seated. And there, I'm 357 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:30.160 telling you, guys, there's article after article about this. 358 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:32.880 Yeah, Because if you make a hole in the ground 359 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:35.240 and you start putting people in it, they are there 360 00:21:35.359 --> 00:21:38.160 going to be standing because they might be stiff, or 361 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:40.759 they are going to be seated because the limbs will 362 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:43.519 bend and they will be seated. So what I'm presuming 363 00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:48.160 is someone got really angry and killed a lot of them, 364 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:51.240 if not all of them, and buried them there. 365 00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:54.960 How close is that to Appalachia Oh, well, White County 366 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:58.000 is right on the edge. It's not in there, but 367 00:21:58.079 --> 00:21:58.519 it's right. 368 00:21:58.440 --> 00:21:59.119 On the edge. 369 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:02.039 That's what I thought. Because there's a cave. There's a 370 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:04.599 vast cave system through Appalachia. 371 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:08.880 Just it stretches all the way here to Nashville. So 372 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:12.480 there's a cave system. It's extensive all the way from 373 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:15.240 here up into Kentucky up into West Virginia. They don't 374 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:16.680 even know how far it goes. 375 00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:18.160 Have you seen the caves over by you? 376 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:21.880 They have maps of the caves. 377 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:23.480 I've seen it. 378 00:22:23.559 --> 00:22:23.960 Yeah. 379 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:26.599 I mean I haven't gone deep into them, Nick, but 380 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:30.599 I've seen them. Mammoth cave systems not far from me north. 381 00:22:31.880 --> 00:22:35.559 Yeah, I believe that Mammoth Cave has been blocked. 382 00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:38.960 Oh yeah, they won't let you go deep in there at. 383 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:43.960 All because from a certain point on, the walls are worked. 384 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:47.720 They are no longer natural when you go through the tunnels, 385 00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:50.920 and before that happens way before that comes into the horizon, 386 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:54.119 so no zoom or flash can capture it. They put 387 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:57.079 those bars because if you look at the maps of 388 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:03.079 the official government maps of of Mammoth Cave, they go 389 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:05.960 to the point where they don't know where they end. 390 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:07.640 Or they don't tell us where they end, but they 391 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:11.720 go for miles and miles and miles. It's a huge 392 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:17.160 system that no one has ever reportedly enter one side 393 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:19.440 and got out through the end. So they don't know 394 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:22.519 what's there. They say they don't know what's there, right, 395 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:25.200 But I believe from a certain point on, and you 396 00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:29.599 have that mural that most people say it's false there 397 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:32.880 that from a certain angle of light you can see 398 00:23:32.920 --> 00:23:39.680 a map of the inner areas of the cave, and 399 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:42.519 it might be a connection to that world. So the 400 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:46.279 story that I was telling is only came to light 401 00:23:46.440 --> 00:23:51.920 because this has happened in the sixteen seventeenth century, right, 402 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:56.799 And it's just a story of two kids that emerge 403 00:23:57.039 --> 00:24:00.599 during harvest from a wolves stand that they had already 404 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:03.880 removed the wolves. So these two kids emerged from the 405 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:08.039 wolves then, and they were green. Their skin was green, 406 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.519 and that is known, that was documented by I have 407 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:15.599 at least twenty one references, and everyone tells the story 408 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:18.359 in a different way. So they all agreed that they 409 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:21.880 were green, a boy and a girl, that they couldn't 410 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:25.680 eat our food, and only after being in the verge 411 00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:29.559 of starvation and very very weak, they start eating beans, 412 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:34.759 and the boy died because he didn't resist it. They 413 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:40.519 tried to baptize him and he died and the girl survived. 414 00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:44.960 So the girl eventually married a known man in the area, 415 00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:47.960 an influential man in the area. She lost her greenness 416 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:55.400 very slowly, but she lost the greenness. And what is 417 00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:59.279 important here is I believe that the code in this 418 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:03.119 whole story that goes for three hundred years of books 419 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:07.200 of fairy tales, of very interpretations, there is only one constant, 420 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:10.559 and that constant is the green and the girl has 421 00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:13.880 been documented saying that where she lived there was no son, 422 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:18.079 and apart from there is no son. Only they have 423 00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:22.880 is a green luminoscence coming from the walls, which I 424 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:26.119 discussed in my book how that can be achieved by 425 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:32.119 natural means. The fact that the black son, yeah, the 426 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:35.359 fact that I see here might not be actually true 427 00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:39.440 is that they are of average height. So either there 428 00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:42.279 are many different types of people living underground. For instance, 429 00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:45.279 you have the I have I don't know it has 430 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.319 twenty two hours or something like that. One recording from 431 00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:53.359 a lady from Magartha supposedly that came with my Nazi philes, 432 00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:58.359 by the way, and the tale that she tells. They 433 00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:03.680 are not small. They are very white people. That's why 434 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.039 the Nazis like them, although they didn't like very much 435 00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:10.160 of the Nights. They like the Nazis at beginning, but 436 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:14.359 then they somehow kick them out that they decided that 437 00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:16.759 they were not following their plan. They have their own 438 00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:21.039 agenda and they are as dominant as the Nazis were 439 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:23.839 at that time. We see what they did to the 440 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:29.720 American fleet when General Bird decided to go there. And 441 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:32.200 so I think the constant here is the green because 442 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:35.640 when I see the pictures of these paleologists where they're 443 00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:38.799 don't documenting this three hundreds or six hundred, I don't 444 00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:40.960 know how many images. The book is huge. It has 445 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:44.640 hundreds of image. Every single one of these entrances that 446 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:49.440 is still in the wild has green rocks, natural green 447 00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:54.279 rocks surrounding the entrance, and some blocks that were quarried 448 00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:57.440 from that place and put on the ground on specific places, 449 00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:59.599 and the rock is green. And I thought that this 450 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:02.680 is probably, and so I went to look and know 451 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:06.720 it is. The actual mineralogy of those stones makes them 452 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:11.200 actually green. So I believe that the green here is 453 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.200 the code that is embedded to represent this underground and 454 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.000 that's what being kept in all these different versions. I'm 455 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:22.160 sorry for this big exposition, but no, no, I have 456 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:22.880 a quick question. 457 00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:25.839 In those areas where the children were found, was it 458 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:32.559 heavily I guess the cave system they have heavily heavy. 459 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:39.480 Copper minds heavy, sorry copper copper. Yes. Well, there are 460 00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:42.240 several speculations. One of them is that they were green 461 00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:46.119 because of the copper. Another one is because it was 462 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:49.480 a common disease in that time that people turned green 463 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:52.759 for bad nutrition. It has a name that I didn't 464 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:58.480 I didn't memorize. Okay. The problem is most people argue 465 00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:00.640 against that because they say that it was a very 466 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.960 well known condition and they would not confuse the green 467 00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:07.480 from that condition to the greenness of the children, so 468 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:09.680 they would understand that it was not because of that, 469 00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:14.640 although they were very, very hungry. Let's put it this way. 470 00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:18.319 The thing is where they came out, they couldn't get in, 471 00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.359 so they know there is areas go deeper on that 472 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:26.440 small cave that was the wolves den, but they never 473 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:28.640 tried to follow it in because the entrance was too 474 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:32.000 small for an adult to pass, so they were lost, 475 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:36.680 apparently for weeks and they came out on that place 476 00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:40.920 during the harvest. Why they were already starving when they 477 00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:43.240 came out. 478 00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:46.000 Lisa kind of took my question not intentionally at all, 479 00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:47.640 and she didn't ask them the way that I would 480 00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:49.559 have asked it. But it was a really interesting way 481 00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:51.079 that she asked about the copper, because I was going 482 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.599 to ask, like, what kind of green was the quality 483 00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:58.640 of green of the stones or of the color, because 484 00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:05.640 there's different asthmaal green, Okay, like like the clarity with 485 00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:08.359 light passing through green, Like you can say, so. 486 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:11.559 You can see you see that vibrant color of mosque 487 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.640 when it's really really green. That's why I thought the 488 00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:18.240 stones were covered in mosque, but they weren't. So that's 489 00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:22.160 the color, very shiny and green. 490 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.119 Well, why are aliens said to be green? You know, 491 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:28.599 maybe there's a supernatural component to this. 492 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:33.440 Yeah, carbon, extra dimensional carbon dioxide interacting with copper usually 493 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:34.359 turned copper green. 494 00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:39.039 They say that too in their investigations that I've looked upon. 495 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:43.839 Yeah, very well, But anyway, I'm sorry, did any was 496 00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:46.640 there any mention of their scoleros the white part of 497 00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:47.559 the eye, Was it blue? 498 00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:54.839 No, we're talking about sixteenth centuries, so even they couldn't. 499 00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:58.720 They couldn't even bring the boy back to health. So 500 00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:03.279 it's just aid and died. They still baptize them. It's 501 00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:05.400 the same, just to make sure he goes to heaven, 502 00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:08.319 although he was a children and children supposedly all go 503 00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:08.799 to heaven. 504 00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:20.079 But that's worth they sorry, what did you say, listen? 505 00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:22.359 I said, did they preserve the bodies? Because I wonder 506 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.440 if there was like respiration happening through their skin instead 507 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:25.920 of their nose. 508 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:29.559 Good question, No, they didn't, they didn't. 509 00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:35.359 I wonder doesn't the story go that they weren't able 510 00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:38.880 to speak the language they weren't able to communicate at. 511 00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:44.160 First exactly the language that they spoke was completely different 512 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:48.720 and intelligible. The problem is some argue that there were 513 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:53.839 communities living two weeks away that speak spoke a different 514 00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:56.640 language that no one understood, and some people say that 515 00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:01.119 they come from those other communities because they differently. Their 516 00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:07.079 clothes were completely strange to them, so it's definitely another culture. 517 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.160 So there's some debate that they were from a community 518 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:16.519 that was two weeks away and food travel, so the 519 00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:19.519 only thing that is constant is the green. The rest 520 00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:22.119 can have many, many explanations. 521 00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:27.839 The Cherokee have a myth concerning the inner earth little 522 00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:33.559 people that goes back to the settlement that was kind 523 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:36.319 of near where Asheville, North Carolina is today along the 524 00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:39.640 French Broad River. But anyway, the Cherokee were in a 525 00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:44.359 time of they were in bad times, like there was 526 00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:49.240 warring tribes, there was drought, there was famine. They were 527 00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:53.000 just having a hard go at it. And the Cherokee 528 00:31:53.039 --> 00:32:00.160 shaman fasted for seven days looking for a solution, and 529 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:05.759 he got in touch with the little people from Pilot 530 00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.680 Mountain not not too far away. 531 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:09.839 And the Crystal Mountain. 532 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:14.880 Yeah, yeah, and the little people told him, you can 533 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:18.680 come with us. You and your people can come with us. 534 00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:21.880 The only thing you have to do is have the 535 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:25.279 people fast for seven days like you've done, and they 536 00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:29.319 can come into the earth with us, and everything will 537 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:33.680 be okay. There's no war, there's no famine, there's no drought. 538 00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:36.359 And the legend is that some of the people fasted 539 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:40.480 for seven days and disappeared into the into this mountain 540 00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.200 with the little people, and it became like a lost 541 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:46.200 tribe of Cherokee. 542 00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:52.200 There's a lot of myths regarding the Americas, both North 543 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.920 and South as in times of crisis to be taken 544 00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:58.720 underground by another race and then when things are calm 545 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.880 or they are allowed to come back to the surface. 546 00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:03.200 A lot of them speak of death. 547 00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:09.599 Interesting about Ashville tim because in Hawaii they also have 548 00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:12.200 this same mythology. I even know what they're called. They're 549 00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.839 called Menehune, which are like the little people. I've heard 550 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:18.240 like many scholars talking about this, and so that's really 551 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:20.200 interesting if you look at it from like a more 552 00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.240 what I'm calling Hyperborian perspective, where we're trying to like 553 00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:28.119 locate like where they believe or this is kind of 554 00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.559 what I'm thinking, I'm trying to locate what they believe 555 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.920 is the new world. So there's like two ways you 556 00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.480 can think about it. There's a lot of Indonesian like 557 00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:39.119 parapolitical kind of like Indonesian factions who believe that it 558 00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:42.480 is like in the Asia Pacific and they have a 559 00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:48.880 strong whole five route races like they have that all 560 00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:53.000 that that's all baked into like the Constitution and all that. 561 00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.839 And then there's like the more American way, which is 562 00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:59.680 obviously what the Lisa and Nick do often on the show. 563 00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:02.559 Is like they talk about like that kind of like 564 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:06.880 understanding the broader workings. So it's interesting if you're trying 565 00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:08.320 to map it. But I just want to say the 566 00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:10.760 thing about Hawaii is interesting simply because it's sort of 567 00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:15.119 America and Asia specific at the same time. It's kind 568 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:18.480 of like the confluence of the two cultures or the 569 00:34:18.599 --> 00:34:21.159 multiple cultures like in Alexandria, sort of. 570 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:27.000 I wanted to add on that, Jim, that's an awesome 571 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.440 insight because there's some I don't want to say primitive 572 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:35.519 but kind of primal megalithic sites in Hawaii that they 573 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.360 attribute to the little people. 574 00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:44.119 M Okay, so they are everywhere. Yeah, just don't care 575 00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:48.840 about that. Maybe not in Australia because in Australia only, 576 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.440 I'm only aware of the dream time, and the dream 577 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.639 time doesn't I don't remember this speaking about little people. 578 00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:03.440 Do you know Drew missen Ricardo who's sorry Drew missing No, 579 00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.320 So he has a podcast, He's Australian and Nick knows him. 580 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:09.280 I think Nick's been on a couple of times. I've 581 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.000 worked with him a couple of times, so he actually 582 00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:14.840 is really he's quite an expert in this subject of 583 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:21.800 dream time. He posits that it's a recent sort of cosmology, 584 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:25.320 and it was very specific. It was very tribally. It 585 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:27.559 was like located on a very specific coast. Like he 586 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.159 understands that I don't know anything about this, but he 587 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:33.480 says it it comes from one specific area and it 588 00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:35.880 was kind of like a story first transmitted in like 589 00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:40.159 the sixteen seventeen hundreds, but it was not common outside 590 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:41.079 of that territory. 591 00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:44.280 And then what you're saying is that the interpretation of 592 00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:48.559 the images that are sixteen eighteen thousand years old is 593 00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:50.440 a new interpretation from that period. 594 00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:55.480 I mean, that's that's kind of his thesis is that 595 00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:59.480 he believes like the kind of like religious framework or 596 00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:04.000 landscape of Australia was very different than how it's been described. 597 00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:12.840 That's interesting and I never heard that. That's interesting because 598 00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:18.519 the images that the pictrographs are so old and that's 599 00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:21.800 what they call the dream time. So I mean, it. 600 00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.920 Doesn't that word though, the dream time. That's part of 601 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.639 like a Drew's argument is that that phrase even comes 602 00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:32.519 from only one language because there's many many ethno linguistic 603 00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.119 groups that are totally distinct from each other, like they 604 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:39.519 have no basis in like there's no ethno linguistic relationship 605 00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:42.639 between them. So it's like a very specific phrasing and 606 00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:45.880 it doesn't occur outside of this one very specific area. 607 00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:49.199 That's kind of saying that that is the it's the 608 00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.760 term that's sort of vessel or the description of it 609 00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:56.880 that is the misapplication because it sort of like makes 610 00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:02.320 the cosmology over broad and were encompassing, where it's actually 611 00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:05.079 like a lot more nuanced and like the concept of 612 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:08.440 the dream time is so variant. 613 00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:11.440 Exactly that that I know that, I know, yeah, and 614 00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:16.280 I do understand his perspective that calling it dream time 615 00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:20.159 is recent and on that perspective, yes, because they have 616 00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:23.400 different names and every single tribe has a different cosmology, 617 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:27.119 so I can I can agree with that. 618 00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:31.400 Yes, what is that dream time concept? 619 00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:35.639 Thank you for having because I don't know either. 620 00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.519 Oh you don't know either, Okay, so the dream time 621 00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:41.960 is what very broadly you Are you aware of the 622 00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:46.519 images that you find in Australia the picture grams. Yes, 623 00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:51.039 so they call those beings of the dream time. Those 624 00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:55.079 are the beings that lived on the land and they 625 00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:57.000 were the beings that taught the first man. 626 00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.480 Yes, they have like the bulbous heads with the big 627 00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:03.800 round eyes. 628 00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:07.719 Yeah, and the auras around the heads, and so they 629 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.159 are kind that they are not physical, but they are 630 00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:15.119 not completely spiritual, so they are like a different kind 631 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:20.320 of of conscious entity that is older and knowledgeable. So 632 00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:24.400 basically that's what they call what is today interpreted as 633 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:26.280 the dream as the dream time. 634 00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:31.320 Are they thought to be from inside the earth or 635 00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:32.519 from another dimension or. 636 00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:37.679 What more like another dimension than inside the earth, because 637 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.480 these are eterial, they describe them exactly as you see 638 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:44.679 in the images. So it could be a semanic experience 639 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.599 like the empty that most people see the same people 640 00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:51.559 going into their chest and starting talking to them. It 641 00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.400 could be something like that. But the practices are very 642 00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.920 different from place to place, and it's very hard to 643 00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:02.400 create an encompassing idea of what are they actual beliefs 644 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:03.159 of their beliefs. 645 00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:06.519 I think he did a great job, Brigardo. 646 00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.960 Thank you. I hope so, because yes, that's good. 647 00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.599 It's kind of like, you know, I think the showmanic layer, 648 00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:15.960 like whether we agree if it's appropriate or not. I 649 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:19.679 think that's probably the easiest for people to understand. Like, 650 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:21.639 I think that's perfectly fine as long as you just 651 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:23.800 take it with a caveat that that's not exactly what 652 00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:26.880 they're doing. We're just using that as like a descriptor. 653 00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:28.519 But yeah, that's the right way to look at it. 654 00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:32.599 I think it's like altered state of consciousness. A lot 655 00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:35.480 of them have snake cults, not all of them. Again, 656 00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:38.519 that's a rainbow serpent sort of mythology of Australia is 657 00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:43.079 much much. It's grossly over exaggerated from how localized it 658 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:47.320 originally was. But because of how history works, it kind 659 00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:50.840 of those the ideas win. Like Lisa said that certain 660 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.440 ideas went out in the end, so that's kind of 661 00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:58.320 like the rainbow serpent too. But it's basically they see beings, animals, 662 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.760 alligators and it it's like the nature spirits maybe like 663 00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:05.880 local spirits of the land, or sometimes maybe. 664 00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:06.760 The foremost animal is if you want. 665 00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:06.960 To call it. 666 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.639 Yeah, that's a good way to describe it. And they 667 00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:12.559 talk to them and they you know, tell them, They say, okay, 668 00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:16.000 you have to do this dance around this lake and 669 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:18.760 you have to like be the keepers of this whatever 670 00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:24.119 waterhole or this tree or this grove of trees, and yeah, yeah, 671 00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:26.199 basically that's what it is. It's like the people who 672 00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:30.239 live underneath reality it's like the beings of subtle reality, 673 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:32.000 like that was a Buddhist. That's how I describe it 674 00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.239 to him. I don't know if that's useful for you though, 675 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:35.480 but yeah that's how I think. 676 00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:37.840 Yeah, yeah, you know, it's it just reminds me of 677 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.920 the story. There's a guy kind of like a listener 678 00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:45.960 of mine who we we initially touched base talk about 679 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:49.000 some of the ancient structures and pyramids and stuff like 680 00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.639 that that used to be in Nashville. But as we talked, 681 00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:56.079 this guy started to open up to me about his 682 00:40:56.199 --> 00:41:01.840 d MT experiences, which were very numerous. He are we 683 00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:02.960 we're not recording. 684 00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:05.880 Right, Actually I did hit record on audio. 685 00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:10.920 Okay, well then I'll just I'll just I'll do the 686 00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:14.760 all the details publicly. But anyway, this guy was was 687 00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.639 very into DMT culture and he had taken it many, 688 00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:21.199 many times, and he was telling me about this experience 689 00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.239 that he was having. Every time he took DMT, he 690 00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:27.519 would get in contact with this very tall, sort of 691 00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:33.199 cosmic entity. It was a female and she had a 692 00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:40.639 name and uh, the name I recognized from Fregian Norse mythology. 693 00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:43.440 And I asked him, I'm like, have you ever heard 694 00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:46.320 this name before. He's like no, and so I told him. 695 00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:48.760 I'm like, well, this is like an old Norse goddess 696 00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:51.679 according to the legend. He's like, well, that's interesting because 697 00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:55.519 every time I take d MT, i'd run into her 698 00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:59.960 and we resume our conversation. And I just thought that 699 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:03.119 was interesting, you know, I mean, MS like there's like 700 00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:07.960 a there's more of that. The DMT culture is expansive. 701 00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:12.719 Ayahuasca culture is expansive right now. And you know, I 702 00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:16.639 just wonder if we're able to tap into another realm 703 00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:20.360 and or another dimension and actually talk to entities there, 704 00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:22.840 and if that's if there's any sort of correlation with 705 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:25.760 the dream time entities. 706 00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:30.079 Look, you have to put in perspective that not all 707 00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:34.000 the people have the same means to achieve the same ends. 708 00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:38.840 So in places where you don't have the possibility to 709 00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:42.079 create the structures that will give you that aultra states 710 00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:48.400 of consciousness tend to go to psychotropics. That's why you 711 00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:52.440 see them in certain places where they couldn't properly build 712 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.480 or they don't have the sophistication to create it. And 713 00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:59.159 that's a viable alternative to reach the same end. But 714 00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:02.679 if you go to sites like Europe, for instance, or 715 00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:06.000 North America or even some communities in South America that 716 00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.440 started to use it. But I'm well, going through time, 717 00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:12.199 you see that they are using this like the Megalithic culture. 718 00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:15.400 They are using these huge structures not to bury the dead, 719 00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:19.920 but to have these experiences inside these places. That's why 720 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:25.639 they are perfectly built in terms of sacred geometry alignments 721 00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:28.599 on these specific notes that we are speaking before, of 722 00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:34.440 these energies where there are fault lines riverbands, to capture 723 00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:37.519 this energy and contain it inside these structures, to have 724 00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:40.920 these altered states of consciousness. You have the example of 725 00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:43.599 the Greeks. They knew this so well they're still using 726 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:50.599 the halsaftly any hypogem to They paid the guy and 727 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:54.519 the entrance to go and sleep on the second level 728 00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:57.599 because they knew that their answers would be their questions 729 00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:02.280 would be answered by the structure itself. So this is 730 00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:04.440 not often spoken, but it's well recorded. 731 00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:08.199 I just want to say, like what you said about 732 00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:11.480 access of a different dimension, well, what if the dimension 733 00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:12.559 maybe is in your mind. 734 00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:17.360 That's an interesting point. That's why I'm going to do 735 00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:21.079 the testing at West Kenneth Long barrow to see if 736 00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:24.400 it is happening inside the mind or is a physical thing. 737 00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:26.840 If it is happening inside the mind, could it still 738 00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:29.840 be real like an obea experience, and we can still 739 00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:32.280 take lessons from it, We can still interact with that 740 00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:36.039 environment as we would in a physical environment. If it 741 00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:39.440 is not one trick of the mind, and it is 742 00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:42.519 actually real, then we can take measures to see what 743 00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:47.920 exists on the other side of that dimension or portal, 744 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:51.000 or whatever it is that they managed to open there 745 00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:52.280 and never explored. 746 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:55.719 Well, things of the mind are relatively real. 747 00:44:56.760 --> 00:45:02.519 Indeed, so you know, that's that's why I'm going to 748 00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:05.519 put their infrared cameras, I'm going to put their night 749 00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:10.480 vision cameras. I'm going to put the thermometer sensors. I'm 750 00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:14.599 going to put an ECG on the head of everyone 751 00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:20.079 that's being the subject of the experience. We'll see if 752 00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:24.079 the portal actually opens physically, if the stones actually glow 753 00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:27.960 and you can see it, if the energy is palpable. 754 00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:31.400 We're going to see if all that debertole Is achieved 755 00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:34.679 when he did the testing there but didn't give it 756 00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.599 a follow up can be reproduced. 757 00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:43.800 Heidi and I did a show recently on portals, and 758 00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:47.920 we looked into this story about how Hughes going to Gerona, Spain, 759 00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:51.519 because he was interested in the natural portal sites there, 760 00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:57.920 and if the research that we did is correct, he 761 00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.519 didn't just go to Jerona once. He went so several times, 762 00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:03.840 and he established a base at the bottom of this 763 00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:10.239 mountain called Mount Contego, the top of Mount Contugo. For centuries. 764 00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:14.119 The legend is there's a temple or a portal up there. 765 00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:17.039 You can go up. They suggest you go up there 766 00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:19.400 with a guide, but you can go into the portal, 767 00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:21.840 and it's more from what I gathered, it's more like 768 00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.639 a mental thing. It's not like what you see in 769 00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:27.679 a movie where there's like the swirling vortex. It's more 770 00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.519 like you go up there and you stand in a 771 00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:34.679 certain area and you travel with your mind. So apparently 772 00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:37.800 Hughes was all about this, and he set up shot 773 00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:42.039 below Mount Kuntugo to try and figure out if he 774 00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:45.639 could make an artificial poral based on the study of 775 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:49.119 the real portal, and he had a team of well 776 00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:54.920 Nazis down there, Nazi sciencests, soothsayers. This is the account 777 00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:58.320 that a Norwegian pilot that knew Hughes said, he said 778 00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:00.559 there were He went in there and Hughes had a 779 00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.400 team of of Nazi scientists, sooth sayers as CIA people, 780 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.079 and they had figured out how to build an artificial 781 00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:10.599 portal and it was finicky. And that part of the 782 00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:14.360 reason why Hughes appeared to have gone crazy later in 783 00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:16.679 life was because he was fried from going through all 784 00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:17.320 these portals. 785 00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:18.800 All that. 786 00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:22.199 To say, I'm with you guys, like what if it 787 00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:26.280 is a mental thing. What if space travel was never 788 00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:29.280 meant to be done by rockets? What if the Shamans 789 00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.440 had the key to all this the handbags? What if 790 00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:33.800 this is all about using your mind to travel. 791 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:38.119 Yeah, the Shamans just got stuck in the ghost layer. 792 00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:41.079 All shaman's obviously, but some can go all the way. 793 00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:44.159 But you know it's easy. It's I'm not just picking 794 00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:47.280 on Shamans, I'm picking on everyone. You know. It's like 795 00:47:48.039 --> 00:47:50.599 it's there, there are layers. It's like it's like that's 796 00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:54.360 why caball is such a perfect where Vehiculture expressed the 797 00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:57.000 idea is because it's like the layers of the suffer. Okay, 798 00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:00.000 well that's a perfect way. And like even with the portal, 799 00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.559 like that's clearly what the That's what Aquino seems to 800 00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:05.239 be very interested, and that's what the crystal tablets, not 801 00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:08.559 what there's written in them, but maybe the more meta 802 00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:11.480 idea because they love that, like especially like Don Webb, 803 00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:14.119 he loves the meta idea. So I think their whole 804 00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:16.519 meta idea was like which way do we arrange the 805 00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:22.719 you know, the abrahammock or pre ironic like Priestley. It's 806 00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:25.360 kind of like the way the gemstones should appear on 807 00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:27.960 the on the keystone or whatever. That's like a lot 808 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:31.679 about what the I think order of Chopsoids is looking for, 809 00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:34.559 but they think it has it's like an interaction between 810 00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:37.400 like the word and the gemstone, or the word and 811 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.679 the color. But they're also like non literalist, so they'll 812 00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:42.679 use things like an idea of a gemstone, and they 813 00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:46.719 might actually mean, you know, images you see like Nick 814 00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:48.239 talks about in the magical experience. 815 00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:52.880 I would say that they are both felid, both as 816 00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:58.079 a psychological experience and as a physical experience. And I 817 00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:05.360 think that some groups pursued more the so called interdimensional 818 00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:09.920 inside the mind portals and because the other ones are 819 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:15.119 much more hard to decipher. But the fact is you 820 00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:21.239 have these figures from the past, like Saint Charmain, for instance, 821 00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:24.639 How can you justify that he appears inside the church 822 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:28.440 without knowing whether anyone seeing passed. Well, no one could 823 00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:31.280 pass because the king and the queen were marrying, so 824 00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:35.039 everything was well guarded, and he appeared right in the 825 00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.800 middle of the ceremony. How did it appeared in the 826 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:41.000 rooms of kings without going through any other door. It 827 00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:45.760 just appeared inside the room of the kings. And these 828 00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:48.119 kind of things, to me are connected to what we 829 00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:50.800 call the false doors that we find in so many monuments. 830 00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:54.480 And if we look into science, we find this thing 831 00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:59.480 called quantum coupling or quantum coherence. That is, when you 832 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:02.960 link to points in the same exact frequency, there is 833 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:06.719 no distance between them, there is no time. They are 834 00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.840 just on the other side of the brain of that 835 00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.400 dimensional brain, and you are on the other side. So 836 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:19.239 you know that this kind of community, the megalithic community, 837 00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:24.159 might have been around since more than three thirty thousand years, 838 00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:28.480 and that the constructions are equal every place around the world. 839 00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:31.400 So did they all dream the same thing or they 840 00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.679 could exactly expand and reach everywhere and adapt to the 841 00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:37.519 mineralogy and the characteristics of the land of each place 842 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:41.519 and build accordingly to have the same the very same results. 843 00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:45.360 Then you have the vibrational imprinting that shows that these 844 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:49.360 sites can actually gather memory of the ceremonies that are 845 00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:54.920 being done there. So this justifies completely the ancestry kind 846 00:50:54.960 --> 00:51:00.119 of spirituality or religion because they were not venerated in 847 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:03.559 the ancestors. They are actually listening to the ancestors during 848 00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:07.239 these ceremonies inside these places because that was recorded, and 849 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.079 vibrational imprinting is something that we are learning today to 850 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:15.280 do in labs. So I would say all of this, 851 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:17.400 but for me to say that I believe that there 852 00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:20.440 is the two ways to do it. You can either 853 00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.880 communicate like Stephen Greer, that's his name, the guy from 854 00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:29.199 Serious Project, either communicate via this rituals to communicate with 855 00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.960 beings on other dimensions. Or you can actually link two 856 00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:37.159 points that are different in space and time and link 857 00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:41.280 them through this kind of technology that uses the mineralogy, 858 00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:44.760 the nodes of the locations, the sound. All of that. 859 00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:49.920 I wanted to add that this reminds this idea of 860 00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:53.639 the two coming together, or the two possibilities happening at once. 861 00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:58.280 Is very much like this Buddhist paradox, if you will 862 00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:02.000 of is the bar a real or is it a 863 00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:08.559 figment of the mind? And well, it's Booths right, I'm 864 00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:11.320 just staying is That's what the question comes down to, 865 00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:15.480 is it either or real or of mind? And the 866 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.480 answer I find in the Buddhist context is that it 867 00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:22.800 is both. And it leaves some people going, wait, that 868 00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:26.639 can't be No, It's it's really both. Jim, please please. 869 00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:29.840 No, I'm sorry. Then I just got so excited and 870 00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:32.599 I just you know, but I know you're totally right. 871 00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:35.880 It's neither nor. That's our dialectic in Buddhism if you want, 872 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:39.039 like nondual consciousness. That you said it perfectly. It's both, 873 00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:41.760 just like the world is the garden and the carnal 874 00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:44.559 ground both at the same time. I know the Temple 875 00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:47.400 of side guys don't really love that, but for me, 876 00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:49.679 that's the truth. So that's you know, that's how I 877 00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:50.320 express it. 878 00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:54.559 Jen, you said something about we know, looking possibly looking 879 00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:57.679 for a poral. I'm paraphrasing something I heard you say 880 00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:01.559 a minute ago, but I would I would suggest that 881 00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:06.199 maybe you know they're they're going out into other dimensions, 882 00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.840 possibly but also into this inner Earth concept that we 883 00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:12.119 talked about today. Maybe there's a a sort of a passage, 884 00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:15.119 a learned passage to the inner Earth, and that a 885 00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.920 Quino was was working with those type of energies. I 886 00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:20.159 would say, you know, like going back to what Ricardo 887 00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:23.960 was talking about with these these green kids, and did 888 00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:26.559 I hear you say something about like a green inner 889 00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:27.440 Earth energy? 890 00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:33.440 They the girl described the the light as dusk and 891 00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:38.000 as a green shrends. At that time, they didn't know 892 00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:41.039 the expression, but it has a green bright to it. 893 00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:45.559 Yeah, well, there's there's some sort of instead of having 894 00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:48.159 the sunlight down there, there's some other sort of life 895 00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:52.719 force energy down there. And and I would suggest that 896 00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:56.159 that's what Himmler was and the Nazis were interested in 897 00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:58.760 with the concept of Agartha and the concept of the 898 00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:03.159 black Sun, because that's I'd say, that's why Quino went 899 00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:06.280 to Vivilsburg Castle in the first place, was because that's 900 00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:09.159 a place where Himler had the black Sun carved into 901 00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:14.079 the floors and the walls there. The Nazis were looking 902 00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:18.639 looking for that in addition to the inner Earth, you know, 903 00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.960 lore they were there's there's that black sun energy that 904 00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:27.599 says there's some sort of a uh, it's not sunlight, 905 00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:30.079 but it's some other sort of life force down there 906 00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:33.440 that the black sun generates, this sort of mystical I 907 00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:39.000 don't know, properties or something. A Quino goes there and 908 00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:42.880 does his Vivilsburg working and he talks about the black Flame. 909 00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:48.559 And I think the black flame was his his his 910 00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:54.599 way of like returning black sun. He used different terminology 911 00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:54.920 for it. 912 00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:59.800 Yeah, no, I mean that that's they So you see 913 00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:03.119 this all contemporary left time path work now is this 914 00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:05.760 idea of the black Flame. So it obviously originated with 915 00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:08.800 the Templo sub boys, and then you know, go passed 916 00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:11.639 on to the different sects now and so you see 917 00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:13.440 this as like a it's kind of like a remix, 918 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:17.599 very temple of set. Like they're using all chemical ideas, 919 00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:20.000 they're using like a little Buddhism, they're using a little 920 00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:22.880 you know, like all the things like everything that Stephen 921 00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:25.559 Flowers like writes about. But of course they're not really 922 00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:28.119 drawing from the original text. And this is the I 923 00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:29.960 tried to make a joke when Toby was on, but 924 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.400 I kind of maybe insults them a little, but I 925 00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:34.440 didn't mean to. I really trying to just be funny. 926 00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:41.400 But doctor Flowers cites Evla, who's citing a TNTRA, and 927 00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:44.280 I made a joke about, how, well, that's not really 928 00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:46.800 the entre. You can't really say you're citing the TNTRA, 929 00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:48.960 like Lisa knows this, You can't. You can you can 930 00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:52.840 cite a citation, but you can't say you're quoting the 931 00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:56.840 TNTRA when you're quoting a citation and the citation was incorrect. 932 00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:01.719 So sometimes I think it gets long with them in transmission, 933 00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:06.480 and so I and this this happens a lot with ideology. 934 00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:09.159 If you believe something so strongly, then you'll start to 935 00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:16.519 make the metaphysics fit your worldview or your governing cosmology 936 00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:18.559 or even maybe your ontology. So you have to like 937 00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:22.719 force fit it in. And so you want to kind 938 00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.480 of like be loose with it, but not too loose 939 00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:28.360 where you're like decoherent, but you you want to have 940 00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:31.400 something structural so you can see that like there's like 941 00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:34.159 the Dawn Web character who's kind of like playing with 942 00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:37.960 these like more I would say traditional cabalistic ideas of 943 00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:42.199 like clarity and like a clear like consciousness, like things 944 00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:47.320 you could use is to describe Buddhism and a ball 945 00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:49.360 at the same time. But then you have like the 946 00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:52.440 Quino Supent Flowers crowd, and they're talking about like black 947 00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:56.239 flame alchemy and like embracing this like kind of blocks 948 00:56:56.280 --> 00:56:59.679 on self. This like a it's like a very hardened self. 949 00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:02.559 So for me, I'm like a little hermetic and I'm like, 950 00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:05.039 I'm a Buddhist. So for me, I I try and 951 00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:07.800 I like I like the clarity language. I like like that. 952 00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:11.000 I just think that that's better. I think that's more. 953 00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:11.840 You know. 954 00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.559 I want to add something to to what you're saying, Like, 955 00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:20.639 because I meant to say this earlier in an interview. 956 00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:23.800 It may have been this guy you guys had on, 957 00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:28.039 but this was the grand master of the Order of 958 00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:32.599 the Trapazoid. It's associated was set right, It's an order 959 00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:34.719 within the Temple of set If I didn't say it earlier, 960 00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.760 But here's here's the quote he said in regards to 961 00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:41.559 the Trapezoid. In that order, he said, it is consecrated 962 00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:44.719 as an order of knighthood dedicated to the Prince of 963 00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:51.119 Darkness and to the protection of the Black Flame. Oh 964 00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:54.000 so those are you know, That's what he said in 965 00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:54.920 a public interview. 966 00:57:55.000 --> 00:57:58.119 So it's like, but what princes are they talking about? 967 00:57:58.559 --> 00:57:59.960 That would be my quest. 968 00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:06.119 I would would try and see if you see any correlation, 969 00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:11.760 because if we take the garments what we have beneath 970 00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:15.119 in terms of the search for this particular kind of 971 00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:20.679 knowledge of several would you compare the taking the extremism? 972 00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:22.920 Of course, I'm just talking about the search for knowledge 973 00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:26.800 from the templars to the Nazis. You think they followed 974 00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:29.960 on their steps where they looked the fact that they 975 00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:33.079 took every single castle, every single monument that had been 976 00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:36.519 built on the places that they were controlling. 977 00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:43.920 Who's who is that? Director to Ricardo? 978 00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:44.480 Sorry? 979 00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:46.920 Sorry? I think what was that for? 980 00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:48.119 Tim? Oh? 981 00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:49.719 You can be for either. 982 00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:53.960 But yeah, well, I think what was happening here with 983 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:57.679 these castles that you know, like Vivelsburg goes back that 984 00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:00.119 said to go back to the first century, eight e 985 00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:03.280 and then et cetera. I think what you're seeing here 986 00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:09.159 is the castles. Weren't the castles, in my opinion, for 987 00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:11.400 the most part, go back to older pagan sites. 988 00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.000 Yeah, they do, they do, and. 989 00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:18.519 They're there in lies the magic if you will. 990 00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:22.519 No, No, I don't doubt that. My main research is 991 00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:25.960 dedicated to that, so are those sites were just from 992 00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:30.760 the megalethic times. They were just repurposed and amplified or 993 00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:35.440 altered according to each one's ideology or functionality. 994 00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:39.519 In mind, everybody in the know wants to use these sites, 995 00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:42.679 like that's why the Catholics came through and put their 996 00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:45.400 cathedrals right on top of the pagan sites. 997 00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:48.119 Yeah, but in the case of the cathedrals is different 998 00:59:48.159 --> 00:59:53.679 because the function is very specific. While the megalids would 999 00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:57.199 use the energy for the inside of the structure and 1000 00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:01.239 would spread it to the outside, creating this paradise areas 1001 01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:04.599 the Church, what they did is they create structures that 1002 01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:08.079 concentrates all that energy or ninety five ninety percent of 1003 01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:11.880 that energy inside the structure for their own purposes. So, 1004 01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:16.679 and you can see this in the archaeocoustic studies. One 1005 01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:18.800 of the most documented is the one in a lottery. 1006 01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:23.360 And the one in a lottery was built after they 1007 01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:29.400 raised down a megalithic structure, and then the Romans did 1008 01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:32.039 something there and then came the Christians and built that 1009 01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:35.320 massive building there is there now that concentrates all of 1010 01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:37.239 the most of the energy of the site. That is 1011 01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:40.880 huge on that site. That's why it's so huge that 1012 01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:44.639 still on that whole city, the people still have the 1013 01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:48.000 mind connections because once you go through one of the 1014 01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:52.039 nine gates, it has magnetic portals that the scientists detected. 1015 01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:54.239 The tunes your brain to one hundred and ten hertz, 1016 01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:57.119 so everyone has the brain tuned to the same frequency 1017 01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:00.800 and is often to people to get ideas from other 1018 01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:04.440 people or have hallucinations or hear the others people thinking. 1019 01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:08.039 And that's the place where that is quite occurring. But 1020 01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:10.920 that's because it's a very powerful place in terms of 1021 01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:14.360 energy production because it's right on top has that riverband 1022 01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:17.320 has on top of faults, fault lines that create a 1023 01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:23.280 constant NCO vibration. So they chose that those sites because 1024 01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:27.320 they have been chosen before. They just have to repurpose them. 1025 01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:29.840 Whatever the ideology is in question. 1026 01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:33.800 Well, I think what you said was really interesting, but 1027 01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:36.639 I also agree with you Ricardo, But I would say 1028 01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:39.280 that perhaps it's like just a difference in kabalistic preference. 1029 01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:43.639 Like I think the Catholic Church they prefer their own system. 1030 01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:46.840 They like, they like an institution, they like Matt's Ock, 1031 01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:48.760 so it's very like the Fortress, or. 1032 01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:53.360 If they don't see it as something that was built 1033 01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:57.239 with the purpose to create the illusion of contact or 1034 01:01:57.280 --> 01:02:00.840 the reality of contact with the divine plead people not 1035 01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:03.320 only to follow the face as to give everything they 1036 01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:07.920 had to that faith because the effect was palpable and existent. 1037 01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:11.079 So if you see it from their perspective, they take 1038 01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:14.159 the benefits from the occultism that they can practice in 1039 01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:16.079 these sites, and at the same time they have a 1040 01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:21.360 system that makes people have these sensations that creates devotion 1041 01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:24.960 and the generosity to give everything they have. 1042 01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:30.880 Yeah, I mean, that's definitely one perspective of it. I 1043 01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:34.400 think that it's interesting because the original contract temples are 1044 01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:38.159 high paid roll, so obviously that just means open to 1045 01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:42.199 the sky. So because like the stars can fall down, 1046 01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:45.159 that's kind of the joke, so you know, it's like 1047 01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:49.079 so that theikinis can come down, So it's like it's 1048 01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:51.679 direct access to knowledge. Or sometimes they say if you're 1049 01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:56.639 good enough for a pasta, you can fly away. But no, 1050 01:02:56.679 --> 01:02:59.360 I mean, yeah, I think there are just different I 1051 01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:02.079 personally in it, just to different ideas, like what is 1052 01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:05.800 your cosmogical preference? Like obviously in the church they like 1053 01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:08.639 to push you through like the stages of resecutionism. If 1054 01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:12.000 you want to say, it's like the thirteen Stations of 1055 01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:14.719 the Cross. That's probably a great metaphor. I think Saint 1056 01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:18.639 Loyola also uses that metaphor. So you're like pushing through 1057 01:03:18.679 --> 01:03:20.800 those gateways of like where they want you to go. 1058 01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:24.199 Maybe it's like they in quotes, but you know, maybe 1059 01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:27.159 it actually makes metaphysical sense. I would argue that Pico 1060 01:03:27.159 --> 01:03:30.079 della Mirandola makes a great case for why Christian Kaula 1061 01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:33.000 makes a great deal of sense. I don't know, just 1062 01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:34.800 an idea, but I don't disagree with you in any 1063 01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:35.360 way we're going to. 1064 01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:39.519 I'm just saying that they will used for different things 1065 01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:41.599 and by different new ideologies. 1066 01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:46.519 Yeah, they were. It is when it comes to some 1067 01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:50.639 of the Gothic cathedrals. The people who built those were 1068 01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:55.000 said that they were trying to achieve frozen music in 1069 01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:56.480 the structure of the cathedrals. 1070 01:03:56.639 --> 01:03:59.920 And this goes back to the it's called standing waves 1071 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:00.639 by science. 1072 01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:04.360 I like that it goes back to like this curious 1073 01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:07.960 case of Saint Bernard of Clairvaux around eleven hundred a d. 1074 01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:12.199 He commissioned the first Gothic cathedrals be built, and if 1075 01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:16.239 you go and study those cathedrals today, and you if 1076 01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:18.639 you studied any kind of esoteric literature, what you're going 1077 01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:24.519 to see is that there's alchemy and occultism engraved and 1078 01:04:24.519 --> 01:04:28.280 and built into and in the architecture itself of these 1079 01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:29.320 Gothic temples. 1080 01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:31.239 The question every single detail. 1081 01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:34.360 Chief Yeah, and that they're deriving from I think the 1082 01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:38.119 older the older the mystery schools for lack of a 1083 01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:38.639 better term. 1084 01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:43.039 Yeah, the technology is the same, and the question is is. 1085 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:46.119 Like, how did how did Bernard of Clairvaux finance the 1086 01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:49.519 whole thing? And it's like some people have suggested that 1087 01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:54.000 perhaps he was such an adept in alchemy that he 1088 01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:58.599 was able to turn lead into gold and and and thing. 1089 01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:01.000 There were a lot of people, well, these groups are 1090 01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:05.320 all interested in starting experimenting and get results with these 1091 01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:08.559 kind of structures. If you look into work of Fulcanaley, 1092 01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:12.280 for instance, you'll see that there were some very practical 1093 01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:16.800 purposes within these buildings that what you were describing that 1094 01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:19.800 I never heard before. And it's perfect that frozen music. 1095 01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:24.480 It's because these structures, as the megaletic sites are built, 1096 01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:29.559 all of the characteristics of the mineralogy use, or the 1097 01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:33.119 stones use the geometry of the place the fact that 1098 01:05:33.159 --> 01:05:36.920 they are constructed in four thirds that reflects the four 1099 01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:40.079 thirts when the music is introduced or the frequency is 1100 01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:48.039 introduced into these sites, what they call frozen music is 1101 01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:51.400 what science today calls the standing wave. And the standing 1102 01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:55.800 wave is when the effects that create these altered states 1103 01:05:55.800 --> 01:06:00.000 of mind start to happen. So it's also what allows 1104 01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:03.519 to create acoustic livitation, because that's what we're doing today. 1105 01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:06.280 We can create these standing waves that has these notes 1106 01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:10.400 stopped in time, and they could put stuff into these notes, 1107 01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:12.840 and this stuff doesn't fall to the ground, It's stuck 1108 01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:16.480 there because the wave is like the wave is constant, 1109 01:06:16.639 --> 01:06:19.559 it's not going anywhere. It's a constant wave. So this 1110 01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:24.239 creates quantum coupling and this activates the trillions by inch 1111 01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:29.119 that stone have of quartz kristles that are the depositories 1112 01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:35.079 of not only the energy caused the information. And because 1113 01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:37.719 these structures are built to reflect the sound, is the 1114 01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:40.480 reflection of that sound from one place to another that 1115 01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:44.920 eventually after that's why they create these pipe organs to 1116 01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:49.079 create exactly that effect. Is they create these standing waves 1117 01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:51.920 by the introduction of these three different types of sounds 1118 01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:55.000 that science called the tridental frequencies, that is the ultra 1119 01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:59.960 low frequency or infrafrequent infrasound, the sound that we can hear, 1120 01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:05.960 and then the ultrasonic waves. Just recently, I've been looking 1121 01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:10.039 into a church that has no reason whatsoever, no reason 1122 01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:15.280 to have invested more than fifty thousand dollars in speakers 1123 01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:19.960 that no one can hear. It's a massive speakers that 1124 01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:23.400 they put on the church just to increase the infrasound 1125 01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:29.119 during certain ceremonies. So there's no reason because no one 1126 01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:32.599 can hear them, right, but they enhance in a certain 1127 01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:36.239 way these standing waves that they are using for their 1128 01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:40.039 rituals when the church is closed. Obviously, probably even in 1129 01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:44.199 the underground of these structures. So these things. They are 1130 01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:47.000 still playing with these things today. This is something that 1131 01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:50.760 they've been trying to accomplish or being accomplishing for at 1132 01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:53.840 least five hundred or six hundred years. They know how 1133 01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:57.760 the technology works. They just can't go to an ancient 1134 01:07:57.760 --> 01:08:01.239 megalytic site and start doing dances or things that people 1135 01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:03.800 will notice. Obviously, they need a private splace that they 1136 01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:06.000 could close the door and have the same effects. 1137 01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:08.960 There's a movie that came out a couple of years 1138 01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:12.320 ago where they had. They used infrasound in the movie. 1139 01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:16.039 Of course you can't hear it audibly, but it's there, 1140 01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:20.359 and that whole movie had a I watched it before 1141 01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:23.119 I even knew about the infrasound part, and it had 1142 01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:25.880 an effect on you that was like tense and stressful. 1143 01:08:26.239 --> 01:08:27.279 Yeah, so I. 1144 01:08:27.199 --> 01:08:29.079 Think it's how you tune it though, right, you could 1145 01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:30.720 probably tune the infrasound to you. 1146 01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:35.000 And it's very it's very simple. Four herts is infrasund. 1147 01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:38.880 If you use four herds in an uncompressed environment or 1148 01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:42.760 in an incompressed signal, you create a state of bliss. 1149 01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:48.960 But if you compress those four herds, you create a 1150 01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:55.199 sensation of stress, of discomfort, of constant awareness something is 1151 01:08:55.239 --> 01:08:59.079 not right. Your body is constantly giving you this it's 1152 01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:01.840 not well. And if you push it even harder, and 1153 01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:05.159 that's what places like this Groparello Castle did that the 1154 01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:10.960 Romans tested it. It creates such a powerful infrasound wave 1155 01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:14.920 that it wasn't conquered for six hundred years. The troops 1156 01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:17.479 just couldn't get to the gates because they went mad. 1157 01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:21.399 You have loss of limb control, you have madness, you 1158 01:09:21.399 --> 01:09:24.920 have hallucinations. So They used very little on that movie, 1159 01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:28.039 because if they increased that, they could create all these states. 1160 01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:31.159 This has been done in labs in universities for many 1161 01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:34.439 years now and they know exactly what each frequency causes 1162 01:09:34.840 --> 01:09:37.840 to people. So the Russians tested this on I keep 1163 01:09:37.840 --> 01:09:41.800 saying this. The Russians tested this system on a war. 1164 01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:47.000 The problem is it affected everyone, so they couldn't direct. 1165 01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:49.880 They tested on the field and everyone gone mad. So 1166 01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:53.600 there's no war if no one fights, so they gave 1167 01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:57.039 up the idea. But the Romans tested they amplified in Groparelo, 1168 01:09:57.079 --> 01:09:59.800 they built even a bigger tower. They tested this system, 1169 01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:03.680 see this replicated in ballback. For some reason, they tried 1170 01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:06.439 to install this there, but they use it perhaps too 1171 01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:10.520 much because you see that the tower imploded. So either 1172 01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:12.640 they use it too much and exploded the tower by 1173 01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:19.359 the vibrations because they're using this huge reservoir or a 1174 01:10:19.439 --> 01:10:22.319 mother of water that is underground next to the tower 1175 01:10:22.399 --> 01:10:24.960 that it's still there the tower fall, but the water 1176 01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:28.840 hyput gm filled with water is still there where they 1177 01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:31.640 create the resonance that go feed them through the tower 1178 01:10:31.880 --> 01:10:36.239 to create this bubble of sound. And might be an 1179 01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:39.479 explanation why that tower exploded, and many other structures that 1180 01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:43.079 we see have imploded from the inside. As archaeologists say 1181 01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:45.920 that they have no justification on how that happened. 1182 01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:50.479 Stars always self combust Yes, that's how we would describe 1183 01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:53.439 the Unbuddhism, that exact phenomenon that you're saying like it's 1184 01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:55.159 I even know the beach. I even thought of it 1185 01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:57.920 when you were speaking. I wasn't doing magic or anything. 1186 01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:00.199 I was just when you're saying, it's like, I think 1187 01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:01.920 the same thing. You're just describing it like with a 1188 01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:02.840 little more science. 1189 01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:07.000 But you don't understand, you know something you had said, 1190 01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:10.000 ah Ricardo, with this whole like this box. I think 1191 01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:13.560 you said that however, they were making this frequency to 1192 01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:16.600 drive people crazy. That had made me think about something 1193 01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:19.520 I had to listen to a while ago. Whether I 1194 01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:23.600 can't remember the exact I guess war infections, but there 1195 01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:26.239 was like these two kind of like castles in this 1196 01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:30.000 sense or more of towers. They were both on opposite 1197 01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:30.880 sides of some. 1198 01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:32.800 Body of water. I can't remember that either, but. 1199 01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:35.239 It was you know, they were there and they you know, 1200 01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:38.479 supposedly like we're fine for a while. They never went 1201 01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:41.359 to war or anything, but they both were making it known. 1202 01:11:41.239 --> 01:11:43.399 That were looking at you or watching each other, you know. 1203 01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:46.239 And at some point they said they did go to war, 1204 01:11:46.279 --> 01:11:48.319 and they said, for some reason, they don't, you know, 1205 01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:50.279 they assumed that it must have been I guess, you know, 1206 01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:52.479 the people in there must have been such great fighters. 1207 01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:55.359 But they said, like the war was basically over, the 1208 01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:58.640 land was still conquered in that place. For some reason, 1209 01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:02.199 they could just not take it over. And I'm like, 1210 01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:05.119 what if they had one of those machines on in there, 1211 01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:07.439 what if they use some of these things as outposts, 1212 01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:09.399 and it's like, you're just not gonna get to us, 1213 01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:11.720 because you're just gonna go fucking crazy when you come nearest. 1214 01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:14.640 Yeah, So you have that example that I already told 1215 01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:17.479 you about Alexander the Great, when you tried to conquer 1216 01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:20.680 the city of Gore. There is a circular city that 1217 01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:25.199 has point six of a mile in diameter, no defensive 1218 01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:28.840 structures around it, just a tower that is still there today, 1219 01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:31.319 a huge tower in the middle of the city. And 1220 01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:34.560 so from the top of this huge valley, Alexander the 1221 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:38.079 Great from the cliff, ordered the first wave of soldiers 1222 01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:40.000 to take that because it's just a small city with 1223 01:12:40.079 --> 01:12:43.159 no defense, right, they were expecting them to surrender. But 1224 01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:46.239 the soldiers never get there. They start fighting with one another, 1225 01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:49.039 they start losing the weapons on the ground and starting 1226 01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:52.279 running all over the place. They couldn't conquer it. The 1227 01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:57.720 fact that he didn't try a second wave of soldiers 1228 01:12:57.800 --> 01:13:01.119 tells me that you already knew what was up. Yeah, 1229 01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:05.840 because because we have records. Yeah, we have records of 1230 01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:14.079 Alexander Great commissioning the construction of these towers to what's 1231 01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:17.479 the name of the fellow, the fellow that the crusades 1232 01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:23.199 were supposed to find, Saint. 1233 01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:23.840 John. 1234 01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:31.760 No, No, what's the name of the fellow? So this 1235 01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:36.039 is this is this fellow supposedly owned a huge country 1236 01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:43.159 in Moorish Territory, and they wanted Saint Peter's Sorry, Saint 1237 01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:48.399 dear lord, I can't remember. Prestor John, Jesus, I got there. 1238 01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:56.039 I got there. Sorry, So all right, thank you, thank you. 1239 01:13:56.079 --> 01:14:00.199 So there is a letter, a letter at least saying that, yes, 1240 01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:05.680 Alexander the Great commissioned Preston John the construction of several 1241 01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:10.159 towers that would limit his newly conquered land on Asia 1242 01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:14.880 to protect it from the inhabitants and creatures. Of the 1243 01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:20.159 land of Magogue, right, and the towers didn't have walls, 1244 01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:23.159 it was just towers, and so these towers would produce 1245 01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:28.680 something that didn't allow these giants and these scrypted creatures 1246 01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:32.920 to go and pass through into Alexander's territory. And because 1247 01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:35.560 this precedes the event of the city of Gore, I 1248 01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:38.039 believe that he recognized the technology, and so what he 1249 01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:40.960 decided to do was to flood the whole valley. So 1250 01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:43.880 he broke the dam that was allowing the valley to 1251 01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:46.800 be a fertile ground, and he flooded the whole city 1252 01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:49.039 and he remained flooded for six hundred years until it 1253 01:14:49.079 --> 01:14:51.920 had been the dam was built again by another chikh 1254 01:14:52.319 --> 01:14:57.479 that took over the city and six months later guess 1255 01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:01.000 he was now from a sma all she he was 1256 01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:05.199 the king of three quarters of the land of the 1257 01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:09.520 Heat country, So something he learned there for sure. 1258 01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:15.720 If I may tie this into a big boat. You 1259 01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:17.760 were talking about the pygmies when you were talking about 1260 01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:21.239 the cave systems. You talked about well units cave SYSM, 1261 01:15:21.279 --> 01:15:23.439 but we were talking about the children that emerged. They 1262 01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:31.119 were green. You're talking about sights on Europe that are 1263 01:15:31.159 --> 01:15:37.760 impenetrable through two conquerors. Also to tie in some of 1264 01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:41.239 the specific places in Europe where most occultists were congregate, 1265 01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:48.000 usually in castles like Rudolph the Holy Roman Emperor in Prague. 1266 01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:48.800 And Cinra in Portugal and CenTra. 1267 01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:49.199 Right. 1268 01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:57.359 That's another one. The Earth itself emids its own electromagnetic spectrum, 1269 01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:03.439 usually radiation, but red wavelength is included in there. So 1270 01:16:03.520 --> 01:16:05.720 if you look at some of these cave systems, you think, well, 1271 01:16:05.720 --> 01:16:09.359 how can life exist down there? You know, you see 1272 01:16:09.399 --> 01:16:11.760 a lot of lichen, you see a lot of cinobacteria, 1273 01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:14.560 and you see a lot of algae. They feed on 1274 01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:20.000 red electromagnetic or this section of electromagnetic spectrum that's in 1275 01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:25.720 the red right, u V radio waves, radiation, all infrared, 1276 01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:28.720 and all that other stuff. If the children were eating 1277 01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:34.720 cinobacteria and algae, they probably would push out a color green, right, 1278 01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:36.880 because they're eating a lot of you know, they no 1279 01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:39.479 longer need the green. And that's kind of how we 1280 01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:43.079 or plants emit green because they don't need the greens. 1281 01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:48.800 But if you can concentrate some UV or radiation in 1282 01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:53.039 certain sites like in Europe or on a castle or 1283 01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:55.199 on top of an entrance to a tunnel, let's build 1284 01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:59.800 a castle, or flooded you could potentially create somewhat of 1285 01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:05.800 a brier where it's impenetrable because you just do toation 1286 01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:10.000 that is being emitted out of the ground on this location. 1287 01:17:11.560 --> 01:17:14.640 So that could if you were it would be interesting 1288 01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:18.279 if you were go to these sites to measure how 1289 01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:22.439 much electromagnetic in the red spectrum is being emitted from 1290 01:17:22.439 --> 01:17:22.840 that whole. 1291 01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:24.760 Well, stly. 1292 01:17:27.720 --> 01:17:29.640 As may I just solved the mystery of what the 1293 01:17:30.079 --> 01:17:31.520 Great Wall of China was for. 1294 01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:35.960 Well, it's interesting you say that, Tim, because geomancy, Chinese 1295 01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:40.079 geomancy is exactly like what Lisa is saying, like there 1296 01:17:40.159 --> 01:17:43.760 are remedy, not remedies, but they're whatever you could call them, 1297 01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:50.199 geomantic solutions to both auspicious and inauspicious conditions, as well 1298 01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:54.159 as changing sort of the nature of the landscape with 1299 01:17:54.319 --> 01:17:56.039 the things you build on it. So this is like 1300 01:17:56.079 --> 01:17:59.840 a key idea in Chinese cryptography and like Daoism in general. 1301 01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:02.439 But then also like what Ricardo was saying, I was 1302 01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:05.119 like the it always comes down to nets a and 1303 01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:07.359 like what Lisa was saying, it's like the it's the 1304 01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:10.960 green that's self illuminating. So it's like jade in a way. Right, 1305 01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:14.840 Maybe it's not actually jade, but there's something luminescent or 1306 01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:19.119 phosphorescent about that copperating process that when it turns to green, 1307 01:18:19.239 --> 01:18:23.000 the oxidae oxidization excuse me happens and then that it 1308 01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:24.159 feeds on the red ray. 1309 01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:27.479 So it's like, that's the relationship. That's the relationship with you. 1310 01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:30.000 I was like, Yo, maybe that's the relationship. How whatever 1311 01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:32.279 you Again, I've said this a million times. Whatever you make, tellus, 1312 01:18:32.319 --> 01:18:35.720 Because there's the colors you're mixing. If you use net 1313 01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:37.640 SoC you're gonna use a little bit of a jigobora 1314 01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:39.479 right in there, and if you use you're gonna use 1315 01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:41.800 a little bit of nets a green in there. Maybe 1316 01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:43.560 that has something to do with that relationship of why 1317 01:18:43.560 --> 01:18:45.000 it's used cabalistically. 1318 01:18:46.399 --> 01:18:48.800 I agree, yeah, I agree, that's under percent. 1319 01:18:51.159 --> 01:18:54.279 The other thing to add to this, I guess equation 1320 01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:57.920 or whatever. Remember that a lot of the very sacred 1321 01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:03.399 site in North America America specifically or the United States, sorry, 1322 01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:09.319 National parks were established on these areas, and usually they 1323 01:19:09.399 --> 01:19:12.960 sit either on the entrance or a top cave systems, 1324 01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:17.640 especially in Texas. I do know in Texas there is 1325 01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:21.079 a cave system that goes pretty deep and it was 1326 01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:23.680 discovered by the Army Corps of Engineers when they were 1327 01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:26.680 building some of the highway systems. They wanted to make 1328 01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:28.640 sure that the ground was going to be sound. They 1329 01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:31.439 dropped a drill and it just kept going and so 1330 01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:34.800 they found some sort of way in and it's this 1331 01:19:35.319 --> 01:19:40.159 entire cavern system with its own water, and it even 1332 01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:43.239 illuminates a little bit. The water does because they've turned 1333 01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:44.760 off the lights when you go in there as a 1334 01:19:44.840 --> 01:19:47.119 tour whatever, and there is a little bit of an 1335 01:19:47.159 --> 01:19:52.880 illumination or whatever. But I mean, I think the government 1336 01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:55.800 does know. I think that they have these maps, you know, 1337 01:19:56.399 --> 01:20:00.720 privy to them. It's just interesting that you're placing national 1338 01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:04.920 parks on top of these types of structures or earth 1339 01:20:05.199 --> 01:20:06.000 type structures. 1340 01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:12.039 So like the reservations for the Indians correct. Well, I 1341 01:20:12.079 --> 01:20:17.560 can say that the speleologists that are looking into this 1342 01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:23.359 tunnel systems in Austria and the others that looked in 1343 01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:28.039 the UK, they all report that somehow there is some 1344 01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:31.399 kind of light on these tunnels that they can't explain. 1345 01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:34.800 So it is like the children said, like a very 1346 01:20:34.840 --> 01:20:37.399 faint twilight, but there is light where it shouldn't be. 1347 01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:41.399 They don't go deep into that, but they do mention 1348 01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:46.479 that there is a system on the more shallow tunnels. 1349 01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:49.039 There is a system that goes through the crevices of 1350 01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:53.760 the rocks that somehow goes through and gives this small 1351 01:20:54.640 --> 01:20:57.720 lights that once you are used to it allows you 1352 01:20:57.760 --> 01:20:59.920 at least to don't bang your head on the wall. 1353 01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:04.640 But it's strange because you shouldn't see absolutely anything in it. 1354 01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:08.760 And that brings me to how were these cave paintings 1355 01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:12.199 done when we don't find any hr on the ceiling 1356 01:21:12.279 --> 01:21:15.239 of these caves? So how did they they eliminate to 1357 01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:19.479 do these precise paintings that are all in scale that 1358 01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:23.640 they are incredible? So how did they do it? Not 1359 01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:24.680 in the dark? For sure? 1360 01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:28.840 I heard that Greg little doctor Greg Little episode. You 1361 01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:32.920 guys did phenomenal episode, But wasn't Greg. Towards the end 1362 01:21:32.920 --> 01:21:37.039 they're saying something about you can strike two crystals together 1363 01:21:37.319 --> 01:21:40.520 and create light. Maybe it's yeah, maybe in water or something. 1364 01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:45.359 No, no, no turbable luminoscence. So what happens is you, 1365 01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:47.800 well they're too far away, you grab two pieces of 1366 01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:53.039 quartz or any crystal and you just do this as 1367 01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:56.840 soon as you do this, they will both glow because 1368 01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:00.439 any type of friction will create this surbable luminiscence in 1369 01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:05.239 the crystals. So I even presume that they the specialists 1370 01:22:05.239 --> 01:22:08.079 on this say that I'm wrong, but I presume that 1371 01:22:08.119 --> 01:22:11.720 it's a much better system than the use of smoke 1372 01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:16.199 to use these smoke signals, because what you see is 1373 01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:19.760 these mounds are all or used to be all connected 1374 01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:24.199 by horizon lines, so they would be very distant but 1375 01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:26.439 still visible from the top of one mount to the 1376 01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:30.560 top of the next, and they communicate communication. Yeah, so 1377 01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:36.119 to me, it's much more visible considering the amount of 1378 01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:39.960 quartz that is now being reported in every single archaeological paper, 1379 01:22:40.239 --> 01:22:43.000 that the ground is filled of flakes of quartz, that 1380 01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:46.399 they would go to these high places and they create 1381 01:22:47.119 --> 01:22:50.000 a language with single or that they had a signal 1382 01:22:50.079 --> 01:22:52.760 language they could use as we use the Morse code, 1383 01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:55.359 because light can be used in the same way as 1384 01:22:55.600 --> 01:23:00.079 pressing a button. So by using this turbo l in 1385 01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:03.000 a sense, they would create this fast array of crystal 1386 01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:06.319 dust that we see everywhere in flakes of crystal or quarks, 1387 01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:09.319 and it would be a viable way of communicating. 1388 01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:12.439 But I like that I like that because they also 1389 01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:16.159 found micah in some of these mounds, and micah is reflective. 1390 01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:18.079 But that would only work during the day. At night, 1391 01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:19.960 you would need to rope these crystals. 1392 01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:23.079 Together, sure, exactly, especially during the night. During the day 1393 01:23:23.079 --> 01:23:25.439 you cannot see them at distance, you cannot see us. 1394 01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:28.119 Well, that's interesting. I wonder if that would almost sound 1395 01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:29.560 like a pulse like a light. 1396 01:23:31.359 --> 01:23:33.960 Well you can. You can watch people doing it on 1397 01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:36.880 YouTube if you want to. You just look for the 1398 01:23:37.039 --> 01:23:40.159 triple luminiscence. I think that's the way it's called. And 1399 01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:42.439 you see there is at least three or four guys 1400 01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:44.239 showing how it works, and you can see it on 1401 01:23:44.279 --> 01:23:48.479 camera with the lights on, so it does work. I 1402 01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:51.600 don't do it with mine because they this is very 1403 01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:55.199 brittle material and if they would flake very easily. 1404 01:23:55.800 --> 01:24:00.520 But the way doctor greg Little made it was you 1405 01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:02.760 could illuminate a room by doing this. 1406 01:24:03.800 --> 01:24:08.760 Hmm, well it is. It is in my in my book, 1407 01:24:09.159 --> 01:24:13.239 I do explore a chapter where how to create lights 1408 01:24:13.439 --> 01:24:17.479 from stone. So we know that if we press a 1409 01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:23.960 cylinder of granite with just a few lines of crystal 1410 01:24:24.159 --> 01:24:28.079 crystal matrix embedded on the stone. So a week on 1411 01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:32.279 on Quarte if you press it with a hydraulic press 1412 01:24:33.239 --> 01:24:36.199 and the lights are deemed, you see the stone lighting 1413 01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:40.159 up through the veins of the crystal because of the pressure. 1414 01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:44.199 This is called piezo electric effect because of the pressure. 1415 01:24:44.279 --> 01:24:52.800 So in these huge cave structures with a reasonable resonance 1416 01:24:53.319 --> 01:24:57.399 that will create a different type of pressure on the crystal. 1417 01:24:57.439 --> 01:25:02.239 There is acoustic pressure instead of being piazzo electric pressure. 1418 01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:05.800 So both of them combined can create the crystals to 1419 01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:14.119 glow in this mild weak luminoscence constantly. Right. I think 1420 01:25:14.199 --> 01:25:16.600 that's one of the explanations to do it. But the 1421 01:25:16.640 --> 01:25:19.560 fact that all of these cultures have an obsession with 1422 01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:24.239 music with sound shows me that that was an integral 1423 01:25:24.279 --> 01:25:27.239 part of every single process. So they might even know 1424 01:25:27.439 --> 01:25:31.479 how to say words that whose frequency by acquire or 1425 01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:35.199 by the determined types of pitches of voice can put 1426 01:25:35.199 --> 01:25:38.640 the crystal to vibrate. So it's like a singer can 1427 01:25:38.760 --> 01:25:41.920 vibrate a glass to break it. It's the same principle 1428 01:25:42.119 --> 01:25:45.520 just used differently. Let me give you an example. The 1429 01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:51.119 hagar Kin in Malta temple has these images of these 1430 01:25:51.359 --> 01:25:57.479 very fat ladies that were called the sirens, and through 1431 01:25:57.520 --> 01:26:01.840 the resonance of the structure. They could sing to the structure, 1432 01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:06.319 inquire and create either the madness of the sailors or 1433 01:26:06.359 --> 01:26:09.920 attract them to land. Again, the compressed sound or the 1434 01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:13.520 uncompressed sound is the same thing. So all these legends 1435 01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:17.239 about sirens that drive men to drive men to madness 1436 01:26:18.680 --> 01:26:23.560 is reported as being these special ladies with this special voice, 1437 01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:27.439 very powerful, that were placed in specific places on these temples, 1438 01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:29.600 like the Hagard Queen that is built like an eight 1439 01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:33.199 hundred and thirty three megahertz antenna exactly the same way, 1440 01:26:33.199 --> 01:26:38.119 but in Stone, and there's images of this women there 1441 01:26:38.319 --> 01:26:41.960 with their mouths singing, and there's the tales of the 1442 01:26:42.079 --> 01:26:45.760 sirens as they are described there that would bring men 1443 01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:50.199 to madness or to or the land. So it's an 1444 01:26:50.199 --> 01:26:53.039 ancient system of a lighthouse, if you want to call it, 1445 01:26:53.199 --> 01:26:55.520 but it could be used for different things. Because sixty 1446 01:26:55.600 --> 01:27:03.479 kilometers away or forty miles perhaps thirty seven miles away 1447 01:27:04.520 --> 01:27:08.039 outside the horizon, there is this little island called Lampadusa, 1448 01:27:09.079 --> 01:27:12.760 and in this island there is a small semicircular structure 1449 01:27:12.840 --> 01:27:17.920 there is pointed exactly to hagar Quinn. So the guy 1450 01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:22.039 that did this test was wondering, so could I send 1451 01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:27.600 a sound message through this temple to the island of Lampdusa, 1452 01:27:27.720 --> 01:27:30.560 all these miles along the sea on the other side, 1453 01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:33.239 and he tried to reproduce the idea and it works. 1454 01:27:34.039 --> 01:27:37.520 The problem is how to justify sound going across the 1455 01:27:37.560 --> 01:27:43.199 Mediterranean for sixty kilometers and so this is another discipline 1456 01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:46.319 that shows that when sound is projected over water, you 1457 01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:48.920 see sound as a wave. Right sound is like this, 1458 01:27:49.319 --> 01:27:52.920 and with distance the wave is becoming shallower and shallower. 1459 01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:56.560 That's why the volume decreases and the information is lost. 1460 01:27:57.079 --> 01:28:01.079 But when it's going through a medium that is constantly cooling, 1461 01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:07.119 there is constantly cold. That's the expression. The sound is 1462 01:28:07.159 --> 01:28:12.039 automatically recompressed. So it reaches this semi circular on Lampadusa 1463 01:28:12.119 --> 01:28:16.840 with the same volume that it left the mainland in Malta. 1464 01:28:17.159 --> 01:28:20.880 The same thing is watchable from West Kennet Long Barrow 1465 01:28:21.079 --> 01:28:24.239 and West Kennett Short Barrow, where two structures that are 1466 01:28:24.239 --> 01:28:27.119 two hundred meters apart or six hundred and sixty five 1467 01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:31.319 feet apart, with no connection whatsoever. You speak in one 1468 01:28:31.359 --> 01:28:33.720 of the chambers and you are listened with the exact 1469 01:28:33.800 --> 01:28:37.800 same volume on the other chamber. There is this six 1470 01:28:37.880 --> 01:28:40.479 hundred and sixty feet feet away that no one can 1471 01:28:40.520 --> 01:28:45.079 explain how it happens, so they will wear aware how 1472 01:28:45.079 --> 01:28:48.239 to use this kind of technology. And this is what 1473 01:28:48.279 --> 01:28:52.239 to future the other cultures and occultists and all that 1474 01:28:52.359 --> 01:28:55.920 came after used ever since. 1475 01:28:57.119 --> 01:28:59.439 That's very coobl Let's se like what you described Ricardo 1476 01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:02.880 and Nick was saying about the like looking at the 1477 01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:06.159 flash of light through the cave system. That's like a 1478 01:29:06.159 --> 01:29:09.840 way that some callis, especially medieval ones described like the klipa, 1479 01:29:10.439 --> 01:29:13.640 and like how a light travels through the tree of 1480 01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:15.520 night or tree of death or whatever you want to 1481 01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:18.079 call it, because that's just aggregates, right, this is a 1482 01:29:18.159 --> 01:29:21.079 stone vessel that's all supposed to be. It's supposed to 1483 01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:25.000 be like a temporary thing you construct. So like some 1484 01:29:25.119 --> 01:29:27.319 things similar to what you're saying, in fact, it's like 1485 01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:31.680 you know that you lose in transmission, and this in 1486 01:29:31.720 --> 01:29:35.319 this case not through space but through time. People forget 1487 01:29:35.720 --> 01:29:36.520 how to use it. 1488 01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:43.600 Well, we certainly have, because only these organizations kept the knowledge, 1489 01:29:44.039 --> 01:29:47.000 and I'm not sure they were quite well aware of 1490 01:29:47.039 --> 01:29:49.720 all of the knowledge when they started. 1491 01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:52.640 I think it's encoded in some of these chapels that 1492 01:29:52.680 --> 01:29:56.079 we talked about cathedrals from earlier. There was a there 1493 01:29:56.119 --> 01:29:58.000 was something I was reading up on. It's it's an 1494 01:29:58.039 --> 01:30:04.800 older cathedral out in Spain and the mural. They found 1495 01:30:04.840 --> 01:30:08.680 that the mural in the chapel had symbolism that was 1496 01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:12.840 representative of notes and music. And if you knew how 1497 01:30:12.840 --> 01:30:15.439 to read it, you're not just looking at a picture 1498 01:30:15.680 --> 01:30:20.359 that an artist conceptualize. You looking at a music written 1499 01:30:20.359 --> 01:30:23.359 out in a change that we just don't quite understand. 1500 01:30:23.399 --> 01:30:26.600 But it's there's more to it, because this is it's 1501 01:30:26.600 --> 01:30:30.680 not just a tune. It's not just something indigenous that 1502 01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:33.319 they want to remember. There's something sacred and powerful about 1503 01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:37.720 the music. It's there's a frequency involved for a purpose, 1504 01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:38.680 to use for a purpose. 1505 01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:43.880 That's why you have specific composers chosen to write specific 1506 01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:50.920 musics to specific chapels, churches, and what's the name of 1507 01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:56.319 the big ones, the cathedrals. So like Bach, for for instance, Bach, 1508 01:30:57.279 --> 01:30:59.479 the music of Bach is not on the frequency that 1509 01:30:59.560 --> 01:31:03.159 we listen to music today. They use the old frequency 1510 01:31:03.520 --> 01:31:08.279 that I can't remember the exact number, but it was different. 1511 01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:12.560 So let me give you an example. Remember I talked 1512 01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:16.720 to you about the tridental frequencies. So the sarch frequency. 1513 01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:19.439 So the first one is given by the earth itself, 1514 01:31:19.520 --> 01:31:24.000 it comes from the human resonance. The second frequency is 1515 01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:28.000 introduced by human means, and the search frequency is produced 1516 01:31:28.039 --> 01:31:31.840 by the site itself. So what happens in this church's 1517 01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:35.680 cathedrals megallytic sites is the final music that is listening. 1518 01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:39.079 It's not what being introduced, but it's what the site 1519 01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:43.920 is producing on its own. From these two basic frequencies, 1520 01:31:44.359 --> 01:31:47.039 there is another layer of music on top of that, 1521 01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:49.600 and I think what you find encrypted on that church 1522 01:31:50.279 --> 01:31:53.960 is the third level of music, which means that if 1523 01:31:53.960 --> 01:31:56.760 you can hear it, you achieved you got the code. 1524 01:31:56.800 --> 01:31:59.239 That's not the code, but that's what results from using 1525 01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:03.560 the correct tune to get that music from the site itself. 1526 01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:07.359 That's why you see on these megalytic size on our churches. 1527 01:32:07.479 --> 01:32:09.640 You see these basins of water that they call the 1528 01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:15.119 baptismal basins, right, But if you look at the baptismal basins, 1529 01:32:15.159 --> 01:32:18.359 some of them are actually baptismal basins. They are in 1530 01:32:18.439 --> 01:32:21.159 places that are irrelevant. But when you see one of 1531 01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:24.479 these thinks, that is huge. When you see one of 1532 01:32:24.479 --> 01:32:27.399 these thinks that is not put just onto the ground, 1533 01:32:27.479 --> 01:32:29.920 but it's on the mother rock where the church was 1534 01:32:29.960 --> 01:32:34.359 built or has a slab of stone that allows it 1535 01:32:34.439 --> 01:32:38.640 to be in contact with the mother the rock bed 1536 01:32:38.800 --> 01:32:42.279 of the place. And then these basins are filled with 1537 01:32:42.359 --> 01:32:46.680 water that when subjected to subjected to these frequencies, becomes 1538 01:32:47.399 --> 01:32:51.800 living water that science later called as structured water and 1539 01:32:51.840 --> 01:32:55.760 now is calling easy water. So this easy water, it 1540 01:32:55.800 --> 01:32:59.399 transforms like a gel. It can absorb knowledge or information. 1541 01:33:00.119 --> 01:33:05.239 It serves the purpose of being a highly detailed sematic device. 1542 01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:08.640 So when I see all these water basins placed in 1543 01:33:08.720 --> 01:33:12.800 megallytic sites and in churches, I see that they were 1544 01:33:12.920 --> 01:33:16.159 using these basins as a chimatic device to know that 1545 01:33:16.159 --> 01:33:18.279 they are using the right frequency. That's why you see 1546 01:33:18.279 --> 01:33:22.039 in these megallytic sites these drawings of spirals or different 1547 01:33:22.079 --> 01:33:25.840 representations of could be sound waves that are just what 1548 01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:29.199 we see in symatic experiences. So do you know that 1549 01:33:29.239 --> 01:33:31.960 you are using the correct functionality by using the correct 1550 01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:34.399 frequency by what you're seeing in the basin of water 1551 01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:37.600 and in churches you see the same thing. So they're 1552 01:33:37.680 --> 01:33:42.199 using the exact same technology that the megaletic world used, 1553 01:33:42.399 --> 01:33:47.800 using the same places that they use, only for different purposes. 1554 01:33:49.199 --> 01:33:51.479 So Ricardo, I thought you were teasing me for a second, 1555 01:33:51.479 --> 01:33:53.680 but then I was like, no, Ricardo doesn't like, he 1556 01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:57.159 doesn't know, he's not teasing me. So I thought of this, 1557 01:33:57.159 --> 01:34:01.000 this is exactly what you described. It's like as the treshial. 1558 01:34:01.399 --> 01:34:04.199 It's when it's opened, the prongs are open. So the 1559 01:34:04.319 --> 01:34:06.479 three prongs, I know, this one looks like it has five, 1560 01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:11.359 but it's actually three. But it's used to dispel outer 1561 01:34:11.439 --> 01:34:14.520 disharmonies into space. That's exactly how it's described in the 1562 01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:17.920 Saudma that you do. So there's an idea that it 1563 01:34:17.960 --> 01:34:22.159 controls like the elemental forces, but it draws down the 1564 01:34:22.279 --> 01:34:25.720 energy when it's open like this, when the trident is open, 1565 01:34:26.079 --> 01:34:29.479 it draws the energy. When the trident is closed, the 1566 01:34:29.520 --> 01:34:32.880 other side will also be in the same it'll mirror it, 1567 01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:34.840 so it be like a double So it's like the 1568 01:34:35.439 --> 01:34:39.680 infinite generation of energy between the poles, you could say, 1569 01:34:39.960 --> 01:34:42.239 where this is simply drawing it down to the Earth. 1570 01:34:42.399 --> 01:34:43.680 So that's why I just want to show you that 1571 01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:44.359 I thought it was cool. 1572 01:34:44.479 --> 01:34:47.920 Yeah, and that's perfect because that is a perfect explanation 1573 01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:51.079 of what happens or what is still happening today on 1574 01:34:51.199 --> 01:34:55.000 Osari's shift, because the Asari's shift is the only place 1575 01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:58.640 that I watch that is completely autonomous. It doesn't need 1576 01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:03.479 human introduction of frequency because they created three vertical shafts 1577 01:35:03.479 --> 01:35:08.560 that are not included in Ziwa's design of the structure, 1578 01:35:08.600 --> 01:35:12.840 but was included after by GRP studying. So you have 1579 01:35:12.960 --> 01:35:22.199 three and connected cavities, so rectangular imagine a rectangular pillar, 1580 01:35:22.319 --> 01:35:26.640 but on the how should I say it, on the 1581 01:35:26.640 --> 01:35:31.760 opposite sense, So it's carved like a pillar. It's a vacuum, 1582 01:35:31.880 --> 01:35:34.439 a place with just a space open. And there are 1583 01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:40.000 three of them, like three chimneys that are rectangular that 1584 01:35:40.079 --> 01:35:42.800 they have no entrance and no exit. They're just there. 1585 01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:48.119 And these three cavities are what cause the fact that 1586 01:35:48.119 --> 01:35:51.439 they don't need human intervention because they are constantly creating 1587 01:35:52.079 --> 01:35:55.800 a signal with this three empty spaces that creates a 1588 01:35:55.840 --> 01:35:58.920 specific frequency that adds to the human resonance and then 1589 01:35:58.920 --> 01:36:01.439 adds to the resonance of the place itself as it 1590 01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:04.880 resonates and creates the standing waves constantly. That's why on 1591 01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:06.840 the bottom you know that it's active because on the 1592 01:36:06.840 --> 01:36:11.720 bottom the water is still easy water, it's still living water. 1593 01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:15.119 It doesn't allow impurities. And we've discussed this here before 1594 01:36:15.159 --> 01:36:20.199 and Lisa has explained it better than me. That's why 1595 01:36:20.239 --> 01:36:23.640 we know it's still active. And that's and from the 1596 01:36:23.680 --> 01:36:26.359 paper I created about it, you can see that if 1597 01:36:26.399 --> 01:36:30.920 it was used for medical assistance, a person with a 1598 01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:35.119 broken leg within one of these granite boxes on the 1599 01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:39.479 second level will recover forty percent faster than with the 1600 01:36:39.560 --> 01:36:41.720 most modern system that we have today. 1601 01:36:42.600 --> 01:36:47.760 So I was looking up gods who use the trident 1602 01:36:47.920 --> 01:36:50.960 or gods that are depicted holding a trident, and I 1603 01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:53.039 thought it was Daygone, so I looked at him first. 1604 01:36:53.079 --> 01:36:57.039 It's not. It's actually Neptune, the Roman god of the 1605 01:36:57.079 --> 01:37:01.520 Sea of the But Dagone enters, interestingly enough, is depicted 1606 01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:05.880 holding one of those handbags, and I would argue that 1607 01:37:05.920 --> 01:37:09.560 this is symbolism that you see you you mentioned ball back. 1608 01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:14.600 You do see the god Dagone with ball back, you know. 1609 01:37:14.760 --> 01:37:17.119 And because you mentioned ballbeck as being one of these 1610 01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:21.399 cities who was using this like defensive infrasound, right because 1611 01:37:21.399 --> 01:37:24.560 of a tower emploded there. So all that to say, 1612 01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:27.640 what this suggests to me is that these people had 1613 01:37:27.760 --> 01:37:33.079 advanced antiquitech. They knew how to use tridents and infrasound. 1614 01:37:33.119 --> 01:37:37.159 It's awesome, sure, sure, look It's very easy to figure 1615 01:37:37.199 --> 01:37:40.960 this out. When do we imagine it when you see 1616 01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:45.640 those tuning forks where you hit one of the tuning 1617 01:37:45.680 --> 01:37:47.399 forks and the other one that is of the same 1618 01:37:47.399 --> 01:37:51.439 frequency starts to vibrate without anyone touching it, right, have 1619 01:37:51.520 --> 01:37:56.600 you seen it? Yes, So this site used the same 1620 01:37:56.640 --> 01:37:59.279 principle these ancient megalytic sites, no matter where they are 1621 01:37:59.279 --> 01:38:03.000 in the world. The difference is they would not resonance 1622 01:38:03.079 --> 01:38:05.800 as the tuning force because they are not close enough 1623 01:38:05.920 --> 01:38:08.720 for the sound to reach there. But by creating the 1624 01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:12.560 same frequency in different places on the Earth, but creating 1625 01:38:12.560 --> 01:38:16.920 the exact same frequency with these tridental frequencies, you can 1626 01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:22.319 put the sites resonating at the exact same vibration tune, 1627 01:38:22.680 --> 01:38:26.039 and that eliminates the difference between time and space between them. 1628 01:38:26.399 --> 01:38:29.000 That's how you can connect and how these people could 1629 01:38:29.159 --> 01:38:32.520 interact with other communities, no matter if they are fifteen 1630 01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:35.279 miles away or one hundred miles away. That's why the 1631 01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:37.439 ceremonies are all done at the same time, because they 1632 01:38:37.479 --> 01:38:41.640 would all share the same feeling no matter how distant 1633 01:38:41.680 --> 01:38:44.439 they were from one another. And this is possible scientifically 1634 01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:48.359 because there is a what is called the crystalline matrix 1635 01:38:48.880 --> 01:38:52.960 of the crust. So through this crystalline matrix, this information 1636 01:38:53.800 --> 01:38:59.880 goes about seventy seven kilometers per second. So the ceremonies, 1637 01:39:00.239 --> 01:39:02.560 the further way they are, the longer they have to be. 1638 01:39:02.840 --> 01:39:05.000 And you see that there are ceremonies that are last 1639 01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:07.640 a few hours, there are ceremonies that last the whole day. 1640 01:39:07.680 --> 01:39:11.840 There are ceremonies that the last three days. So could 1641 01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:14.840 it be remnant of the fact that some distant places 1642 01:39:14.880 --> 01:39:17.359 needed more time to create the same ceremony and they 1643 01:39:17.439 --> 01:39:20.279 endure all that process of keeping singing almost to to 1644 01:39:20.279 --> 01:39:24.520 to faint. I don't know, but it is a perspective, 1645 01:39:24.560 --> 01:39:27.199 and there is a possibility that these sites were all 1646 01:39:27.319 --> 01:39:29.520 connected at some point in time. 1647 01:39:29.960 --> 01:39:32.880 Well, yeah, and you have the pyramids of South America 1648 01:39:32.960 --> 01:39:35.399 that are many of them, see appear to be on 1649 01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:39.079 a grid of some sort. They line up on a map. 1650 01:39:40.079 --> 01:39:45.239 Yes, if you look at the big spaces of land 1651 01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:50.359 as well, like you know, vast miles between you have 1652 01:39:50.680 --> 01:39:54.000 you have to understand that only just if we pick 1653 01:39:54.119 --> 01:39:58.920 only the astronomical knowledge, right, just the astronomical knowledge, you 1654 01:39:59.039 --> 01:40:04.600 need seventy two years to measure one degree of the sky. 1655 01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:07.600 So how many times do you need to map the 1656 01:40:07.720 --> 01:40:09.920 three hundred and sixty and do it again and again 1657 01:40:09.960 --> 01:40:13.199 to make sure that your calculations are correct. How many 1658 01:40:13.239 --> 01:40:17.039 generations are that? How many time did it take for 1659 01:40:17.199 --> 01:40:20.039 the people to learn how to use these things? Or 1660 01:40:20.079 --> 01:40:23.680 did anyone taught them to use these things? Because it's 1661 01:40:23.720 --> 01:40:27.319 more likely than we see all this time pursuing once 1662 01:40:27.680 --> 01:40:31.800 it would be lost today. You cannot imagine someone looking 1663 01:40:31.840 --> 01:40:33.960 at the same problem for thirty generations. 1664 01:40:33.960 --> 01:40:37.159 It's just yea. All the legends suggest that they were 1665 01:40:37.239 --> 01:40:42.239 taught this information. In my opinion, sure. 1666 01:40:42.319 --> 01:40:44.720 Ricardo, I want to ask you something, just real quick, 1667 01:40:44.760 --> 01:40:46.520 on your opinion on something you're saying. You got me 1668 01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:49.600 thinking about these churches and stuff, and I know I've 1669 01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:53.560 seen personally in some churches their holy water will actually 1670 01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:56.520 be like in a contained, like big container and it'll 1671 01:40:56.560 --> 01:40:58.920 be taken from Do you think that will be affected 1672 01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:02.079 from a certain specif frequencies being pumped in. 1673 01:41:02.079 --> 01:41:05.800 There, if the container is putting, is put in, for instance, 1674 01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:10.560 in a recess of stone, yes, or in between walls yes. 1675 01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:14.479 If the container is of a specific type of glass, yes, 1676 01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:17.960 That's why you see that. The older you go in 1677 01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:21.680 these practices, they use actual crystal to hold these things 1678 01:41:21.680 --> 01:41:25.960 because it would vibrate easier, not not just glass. 1679 01:41:26.199 --> 01:41:29.640 That's interesting because did the I think when I covered 1680 01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:32.319 that place that I did, the Catacombs in New York City, 1681 01:41:32.520 --> 01:41:34.479 their thing they had a thing I think for holy 1682 01:41:34.520 --> 01:41:37.319 water was actually in It was like basically carved into 1683 01:41:37.359 --> 01:41:41.520 the wall like between That's interesting you just said. 1684 01:41:41.359 --> 01:41:45.319 That normally they put it in on on recesses or 1685 01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:48.159 between narrow places or walls. 1686 01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:53.560 So it's to your point about the water neck and 1687 01:41:53.600 --> 01:41:57.039 then out saying it's interesting that you're saying all this 1688 01:41:57.119 --> 01:42:01.760 because we did the whole thing with the symbolism of 1689 01:42:02.279 --> 01:42:04.159 I can't remember what we did. What we did with Teresa, 1690 01:42:04.319 --> 01:42:09.640 it was the seashell and water and baptism. There was 1691 01:42:09.840 --> 01:42:13.119 a lot of paintings showing that John the Baptist baptized 1692 01:42:13.199 --> 01:42:18.960 Jesus using a seashell, and most baptismal basins in I 1693 01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:23.119 believe European churches and some in Latin America still use 1694 01:42:23.319 --> 01:42:26.159 that shape of a seashell. And so if you look 1695 01:42:26.199 --> 01:42:29.079 at the at the contents of what a seashell is, 1696 01:42:29.159 --> 01:42:31.880 it's calcium carbonate. And so when you look at some 1697 01:42:31.920 --> 01:42:34.880 of these cave systems, especially in Texas. They are old, 1698 01:42:35.319 --> 01:42:42.199 like multi million year old limestone leftover from old ancient 1699 01:42:42.199 --> 01:42:46.920 coral reefs, which are calcium carbonate. And and when you 1700 01:42:46.960 --> 01:42:49.720 look up how do you structure water? How do you 1701 01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:53.800 make water? Calcium carbonate is used because it gives it 1702 01:42:53.840 --> 01:43:00.000 such a high piece of electric and that and then 1703 01:43:00.159 --> 01:43:02.319 with the Holy water, Yeah, if you put it in bet, 1704 01:43:03.079 --> 01:43:06.199 calcium carbonate is used for a lot of building materials 1705 01:43:06.199 --> 01:43:10.600 as well. It's stone, that's what I mean, left over stone. WoT. 1706 01:43:11.159 --> 01:43:13.199 I don't know if people know this, but holy water 1707 01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:16.319 is supposed to have Sultan it a lot of a 1708 01:43:16.319 --> 01:43:18.159 lot of people resulting. 1709 01:43:19.199 --> 01:43:21.880 Yeah, so that's also interesting what you're saying, Nick, because 1710 01:43:21.920 --> 01:43:23.920 and what Lisa is saying, like to synthesize it to 1711 01:43:24.199 --> 01:43:27.159 it's if you look at the Mary Magdalen churches to 1712 01:43:27.159 --> 01:43:29.159 bring it around all the way to a templar thing. 1713 01:43:29.840 --> 01:43:34.239 The Mary Magdalen churches have the devil upholding a seashell, 1714 01:43:35.039 --> 01:43:38.920 and it's Mary Magdalene like above the seashell like almost 1715 01:43:38.920 --> 01:43:42.079 like a venus, right, and she does have red hair 1716 01:43:42.119 --> 01:43:45.119 in the south of front. So that's kind of interesting. 1717 01:43:46.159 --> 01:43:50.079 Then there's that famous painting of Aphrodite or Venus coming 1718 01:43:50.119 --> 01:43:51.119 out of the seashell? 1719 01:43:51.199 --> 01:43:53.359 Right, what exactly. 1720 01:43:53.159 --> 01:43:57.119 Aphrodit What if that's actually like a little meta reference 1721 01:43:57.279 --> 01:43:58.800 Mary Magdalen, Just so interesting idea. 1722 01:43:59.319 --> 01:44:01.720 It makes you look at that painting totally different. Right 1723 01:44:01.760 --> 01:44:03.960 now you can you can look at that in the 1724 01:44:04.039 --> 01:44:05.159 whole symbol. 1725 01:44:06.239 --> 01:44:10.000 Normally it's associated with the swan on one side, and 1726 01:44:10.680 --> 01:44:12.960 I can't remember what's the animal on the other one. 1727 01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:15.319 But the goddess has. 1728 01:44:15.159 --> 01:44:15.720 A name. 1729 01:44:18.199 --> 01:44:20.600 I can't remember. I can't remember the name of the goddess. 1730 01:44:21.880 --> 01:44:25.359 May I ask if you remember the dimensions of the 1731 01:44:25.439 --> 01:44:29.399 three shafts, if they're two that are similar, or all 1732 01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:33.039 three are similar, if they're each different, if you remember. 1733 01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:37.239 From my perspective, and you have to keep in mind 1734 01:44:37.279 --> 01:44:44.800 that it was done with g RP. So sorry ground 1735 01:44:45.960 --> 01:44:49.960 well you understood its ground penetry, ground penetrating writer, so GPR. 1736 01:44:52.199 --> 01:44:56.680 You cannot exactly say where where they start and where 1737 01:44:56.720 --> 01:44:59.840 they end, but they represented in the study as this 1738 01:45:00.279 --> 01:45:01.439 being exactly the same. 1739 01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:08.800 I was going to ask too, there's all these I 1740 01:45:08.840 --> 01:45:11.960 feel like, forgive me for chopping and happiness, but I 1741 01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:16.720 feel like there's all these legends of levitation inside the 1742 01:45:16.760 --> 01:45:19.840 temple I wonder if you heard of anything like that 1743 01:45:20.159 --> 01:45:24.159 relative to the healing and the defensive energy that you 1744 01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:25.439 discussed earlier. 1745 01:45:28.279 --> 01:45:32.720 Well, the chapter that the only chapter that I start 1746 01:45:33.079 --> 01:45:37.000 in my book saying that I'm putting there the information 1747 01:45:37.359 --> 01:45:41.359 because it's available and it's being tested by science. But 1748 01:45:41.560 --> 01:45:45.279 is one that I there's so few information about it. 1749 01:45:45.279 --> 01:45:51.760 It's exactly that, because apart from some tales as the 1750 01:45:53.880 --> 01:45:59.000 English from the air force that was in Tibet and 1751 01:45:59.119 --> 01:46:03.079 saw this group of monks carrying a huge block of 1752 01:46:03.159 --> 01:46:09.840 stone up the hill, and they were using long like 1753 01:46:09.840 --> 01:46:12.199 like those horns from Tibet that you see that make 1754 01:46:12.279 --> 01:46:15.760 that very disturbing sound. So there were several of them 1755 01:46:16.199 --> 01:46:20.399 using those horns and they were levitating the stone and 1756 01:46:20.439 --> 01:46:24.760 taking uphill to the temple. Is it true, I don't know. 1757 01:46:25.439 --> 01:46:30.680 But scientifically, if you put an object in a state 1758 01:46:31.039 --> 01:46:35.399 of vibration, in a vibrational state, it can reach the 1759 01:46:35.439 --> 01:46:39.039 point where it's no longer affected by the laws of physics. 1760 01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:44.359 So according to that concept, you can then move as 1761 01:46:45.159 --> 01:46:52.319 I believe everyone's seen what they called quantum quantum entanglement 1762 01:46:52.479 --> 01:46:55.039 of that disc that they first had to do with 1763 01:46:56.039 --> 01:46:59.600 liquid nitrogen, and now they are being able to do 1764 01:46:59.640 --> 01:47:02.479 it without the cold. They can do it already without 1765 01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:08.479 using the extra cold for the being super conductive. So 1766 01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:13.479 what they do is they put this disk on top 1767 01:47:13.520 --> 01:47:18.920 of a track right, and the disc doesn't touch anywhere. 1768 01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:21.439 It doesn't go forward back, it doesn't move. You can 1769 01:47:21.560 --> 01:47:24.239 turn it to one side, it stays on that position. 1770 01:47:24.279 --> 01:47:27.399 It just doesn't move. It's quantum locking. Sorry, that's the 1771 01:47:27.439 --> 01:47:33.359 correct name. Quantum locking. So if you think in these terms, 1772 01:47:33.479 --> 01:47:37.960 it is quite possible. For instance, when the glass is 1773 01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:42.520 about shattered by using frequency to break it, there is 1774 01:47:42.560 --> 01:47:46.600 a point right before it shatters that it becomes malleable. 1775 01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:52.119 So this could justify how they do this. One hundred 1776 01:47:52.720 --> 01:47:57.640 images just the same in temples in the East like 1777 01:47:58.359 --> 01:48:02.680 Indonesia or I can't remember the names specifically, but you 1778 01:48:02.720 --> 01:48:05.600 have this temple the Tamil culture, for instance, where you 1779 01:48:05.680 --> 01:48:08.760 have one hundred statues that are exactly the same. How 1780 01:48:09.079 --> 01:48:12.680 did you do that? It's working with stone. The guys 1781 01:48:12.680 --> 01:48:16.119 on Rolls Royce, the workers in the metal were receiving 1782 01:48:16.359 --> 01:48:19.560 ten thousand dollars a month and they couldn't do the 1783 01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:23.239 same panel twice. There's always some difference. And these guys 1784 01:48:23.239 --> 01:48:26.680 were doing on stone on hundreds of them. That obviously 1785 01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:29.680 couldn't be one worker. You have to be several workers 1786 01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:32.199 doing the same image. So and they all got the 1787 01:48:32.239 --> 01:48:36.119 exact same image by the millimeter. So if you soften 1788 01:48:36.199 --> 01:48:39.000 the stone, you just could get there with a clay 1789 01:48:39.039 --> 01:48:42.600 mold and just produce the images by doing that to 1790 01:48:42.680 --> 01:48:47.000 the stone, for instance. So all of this is speculation, 1791 01:48:47.159 --> 01:48:47.720 of course, but. 1792 01:48:50.079 --> 01:48:53.640 Well not really because if you're looking at sergeant, if 1793 01:48:53.680 --> 01:48:55.760 you're looking at it from the quantum level, you're looking 1794 01:48:55.840 --> 01:48:59.600 at the anatomical level, and atoms never touch, they're always 1795 01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:03.960 in rote and kind of you know, on there is 1796 01:49:04.319 --> 01:49:07.279 gaps or spaces, and Oppenheimer talked about this and how 1797 01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:12.000 you can never really touch something in that because of 1798 01:49:12.039 --> 01:49:15.600 the gaps that exists. I forget the name of the theory, 1799 01:49:16.079 --> 01:49:20.000 but it has something to do with the spaces basically 1800 01:49:20.079 --> 01:49:24.359 dictate everything. It's not the actual atom, and that we 1801 01:49:24.439 --> 01:49:28.439 don't understand the space and the thing that exists in between. 1802 01:49:28.760 --> 01:49:33.720 It's actually probably I'm sorry, probably what is the medium 1803 01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:37.960 at which the oh my goodness, keep like that. The 1804 01:49:38.039 --> 01:49:41.000 information is probably traveling within these spaces and we just 1805 01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:41.960 don't know what it is. 1806 01:49:43.319 --> 01:49:46.800 But yeah, I tell you that there's a cellular component 1807 01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:52.239 in these plasmoids that has this extra dimensional quality to it, 1808 01:49:52.720 --> 01:49:55.560 like like the particles can be in separate places at 1809 01:49:55.560 --> 01:49:56.199 the same time. 1810 01:49:56.319 --> 01:50:03.520 Quickliver, what you said, Lisa was really genius and I 1811 01:50:03.600 --> 01:50:06.319 was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're hit hitting it. So 1812 01:50:06.359 --> 01:50:09.479 I'm glad you said it. But yeah, you're right, because 1813 01:50:09.479 --> 01:50:13.000 that's what it suffer is it's the empty space between 1814 01:50:13.279 --> 01:50:15.560 the atoms. That's even how it's described. Like once they 1815 01:50:15.560 --> 01:50:18.720 started like leveling up, getting more scientific acknologists, like the 1816 01:50:19.319 --> 01:50:23.279 you know, the Renaissance or whatever, progressed. I mean, that's 1817 01:50:22.680 --> 01:50:25.319 they they came to understand that. But maybe they came 1818 01:50:25.359 --> 01:50:28.119 to understand that through magical experiences or whatever, or through 1819 01:50:28.720 --> 01:50:30.760 channeled experiences, like I don't really believe in that, but 1820 01:50:30.800 --> 01:50:34.600 I'll say magical experience. So uh yeah, I think that 1821 01:50:34.640 --> 01:50:36.439 it's both. I think it's like I think we're in 1822 01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:38.640 I think Ricardo would agree with me. I hope he does, 1823 01:50:38.680 --> 01:50:42.600 but that it's both. It's like there's like something metaphysical 1824 01:50:42.840 --> 01:50:47.000 and also maybe something material at the same time. And 1825 01:50:47.079 --> 01:50:50.199 there's also we have this idea in Buddhism of primordial words. 1826 01:50:50.880 --> 01:50:52.920 So like if you're able to speak the primordial word, 1827 01:50:52.960 --> 01:50:55.960 it actually never goes away, so it's like a constant, 1828 01:50:56.039 --> 01:51:00.520 infinite resonance in that empty space. So, like Lisa as saying, 1829 01:51:00.560 --> 01:51:03.960 and like I think Tim said, and then Ricardo said 1830 01:51:03.960 --> 01:51:08.760 something else about the sort of making the formation into 1831 01:51:09.319 --> 01:51:13.439 a valeable substance. There's something really interesting and really realistic 1832 01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:16.279 about that, or at least Buddhists that you speak the 1833 01:51:16.279 --> 01:51:20.520 primordial word, you loosen the aggregates, you raise up like 1834 01:51:20.560 --> 01:51:24.279 the crystal components, which are really just light, and you 1835 01:51:24.800 --> 01:51:27.560 allow it to be free of aggregation. So I don't know, 1836 01:51:27.560 --> 01:51:29.439 there's something really interesting about that. I just want to 1837 01:51:29.479 --> 01:51:30.039 say that. 1838 01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:35.279 You see Serge today playing with a lot of these 1839 01:51:35.319 --> 01:51:38.640 concepts that you guys just touched onto. And I just 1840 01:51:38.680 --> 01:51:42.840 wanted to bring this back to the tunnels beneath the earth. 1841 01:51:42.920 --> 01:51:47.600 We know they're extensive, they're unmapped. Who knows how extensive 1842 01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:52.640 they actually are. But cern during its construction they actually 1843 01:51:52.640 --> 01:51:56.560 had to stop digging because they hit old Roman ruins, 1844 01:51:56.600 --> 01:51:59.960 and it was ruins to the temple of a Pollion, 1845 01:52:01.239 --> 01:52:05.920 and the Romans placed the temple there believing that there 1846 01:52:05.960 --> 01:52:09.920 was a bottomless pit there. So you just have to 1847 01:52:09.960 --> 01:52:14.680 wonder like why did CERNS choose that site, and didcern 1848 01:52:14.800 --> 01:52:18.000 actually construct all the tunnels they're using for the hydron 1849 01:52:18.039 --> 01:52:22.640 collider or were they already there? And this is instead 1850 01:52:22.640 --> 01:52:26.399 of being the Catholics moving to a pagan side, now 1851 01:52:26.439 --> 01:52:31.159 we're seeing science moving its institutions to a pagan side. 1852 01:52:31.399 --> 01:52:33.359 Yeah, think about that. 1853 01:52:35.159 --> 01:52:37.359 Well, actually have a friend that works at CERNED. Him 1854 01:52:37.479 --> 01:52:41.199 and I've talked about this exact like thing with him, 1855 01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:44.039 and he would say it's the same. He would say 1856 01:52:44.079 --> 01:52:46.439 that there's like that element, like we discussed it in 1857 01:52:46.560 --> 01:52:49.439 much more molistic terms. But I said, it's like a 1858 01:52:49.680 --> 01:52:54.760 tifferatic institution of science and it's like the outer presentation. 1859 01:52:54.840 --> 01:52:57.960 But he says he thinks that that's also religious in 1860 01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:00.800 a way. But that's it's really about how science is 1861 01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:04.119 like a metaphysical framework. It's just like a different way 1862 01:53:04.159 --> 01:53:06.439 to describe it. Maybe they don't believe in the exact 1863 01:53:06.479 --> 01:53:09.079 same things, but they kind of know, they kind of 1864 01:53:09.119 --> 01:53:11.479 get it. They know they're doing magic. 1865 01:53:12.119 --> 01:53:14.960 Yeah, I think so too. I mean, for the longest time, 1866 01:53:15.039 --> 01:53:18.239 Sir on their website had up their sort of like 1867 01:53:18.359 --> 01:53:20.640 mission statement, although they didn't word it that way, but 1868 01:53:20.680 --> 01:53:22.960 it was kind of like this is what we're about, 1869 01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:26.079 that sort of a thing. And in that paragraph they're 1870 01:53:26.119 --> 01:53:29.000 talking about the Higgs boson and they're talking about how 1871 01:53:29.039 --> 01:53:32.560 I think it was in twenty twelve they discovered this 1872 01:53:32.760 --> 01:53:38.880 force field out there in Vece. I guess, yeah, but 1873 01:53:39.399 --> 01:53:42.600 you know it's and so particle physics is all their 1874 01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:45.119 version of particle physics is kind of wrapped up in 1875 01:53:45.159 --> 01:53:49.840 this idea of this force field. It's and I would say, 1876 01:53:50.239 --> 01:53:52.359 I would question, I would put the question on table. 1877 01:53:52.359 --> 01:53:56.079 At least, is that a sentient force field that a 1878 01:53:56.119 --> 01:53:59.920 lot of the religions are had it used to enter 1879 01:54:00.079 --> 01:54:01.920 act with I know that's a big that's kind of 1880 01:54:01.920 --> 01:54:02.560 a big question. 1881 01:54:03.039 --> 01:54:07.039 Associated it with AI. We are feeding AI at this 1882 01:54:07.159 --> 01:54:12.039 moment with every single thing we do online. Right, So 1883 01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:15.119 back then you didn't have the Internet, but you have 1884 01:54:15.199 --> 01:54:20.000 this crystalline matrix, so it was constantly observing all kinds 1885 01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:23.880 of information, so you could actually access it and retrieve 1886 01:54:24.039 --> 01:54:26.560 information as long as you know how it was imprinted. 1887 01:54:27.159 --> 01:54:30.479 So it's like mini keys within the global key, each 1888 01:54:30.560 --> 01:54:33.079 key revealing a piece of the information. We are doing 1889 01:54:33.119 --> 01:54:36.479 this today with crystals on labs. We are vibrational in 1890 01:54:36.560 --> 01:54:40.159 printing information to crystals that they are finding to be 1891 01:54:40.239 --> 01:54:44.119 much more stable. They don't find a limit to what 1892 01:54:44.239 --> 01:54:48.159 information they could put in, and they can retrieve it 1893 01:54:48.840 --> 01:54:52.119 at will as long as they use the same frequency 1894 01:54:52.119 --> 01:54:55.439 that was used to put them inside the crystal. So 1895 01:54:55.600 --> 01:54:59.720 it's exactly the same principle. We just can't fandom that 1896 01:55:01.359 --> 01:55:04.680 fifteen thousand years ago, eight ten thousand, eight thousand years ago, 1897 01:55:04.800 --> 01:55:09.760 or even five hundred years ago. So I think that's 1898 01:55:09.760 --> 01:55:13.920 why science doesn't look at that they are rediscovering something, 1899 01:55:14.000 --> 01:55:18.479 because they don't conceive that this has ever possibly existed. 1900 01:55:18.760 --> 01:55:23.119 And with the screen that I'm gonna show you now, 1901 01:55:23.319 --> 01:55:27.600 you'll see that this is way sorry, where are you? 1902 01:55:28.720 --> 01:55:28.960 Oh? 1903 01:55:29.039 --> 01:55:31.680 Here we are? Why does it disappear? 1904 01:55:33.439 --> 01:55:34.560 Oh? To go away? 1905 01:55:35.960 --> 01:55:40.159 I should say that there's been a the terminology has changed. 1906 01:55:40.439 --> 01:55:43.439 Science is just using a different terminology for something that's 1907 01:55:43.479 --> 01:55:46.680 been around for a very long time. And even Bolvaski 1908 01:55:46.720 --> 01:55:50.159 talked about it, said talked about particle physics before they 1909 01:55:50.199 --> 01:55:53.119 even existed. She said, she talked about the atom. She 1910 01:55:53.159 --> 01:55:56.760 talked about how the atom could be split. And it 1911 01:55:56.880 --> 01:55:59.479 just seems like when you look at the works of Bolvaski, 1912 01:55:59.560 --> 01:56:03.640 anst if you want to call them predictions or whatever 1913 01:56:03.680 --> 01:56:07.119 you can, but it seems like that stuff became true 1914 01:56:07.439 --> 01:56:10.760 or was found out later by science. In this modern era. 1915 01:56:13.199 --> 01:56:17.520 The question is are all the lines in existence and 1916 01:56:17.640 --> 01:56:20.880 looked at in here? I only have I don't know, 1917 01:56:21.119 --> 01:56:24.199 seventy percent of the grid. There are several grids that 1918 01:56:24.279 --> 01:56:27.520 are not well documented enough for us to put in here, 1919 01:56:27.680 --> 01:56:32.199 like the back lines. But you noticed that where there 1920 01:56:32.239 --> 01:56:40.560 are more megaliths, the network gets really really enhanced. So 1921 01:56:41.640 --> 01:56:46.119 it's both here and here. If I can turn this, 1922 01:56:49.359 --> 01:56:52.079 you see the insanity of North America? 1923 01:56:53.119 --> 01:56:56.560 Yes, damn what area is that right there? 1924 01:56:57.880 --> 01:56:59.359 Which one that you have? 1925 01:56:59.439 --> 01:56:59.760 That you have? 1926 01:57:00.039 --> 01:57:02.680 And though basically the mouse over right now that large 1927 01:57:02.760 --> 01:57:04.479 that large grouping right up there a little bit. 1928 01:57:04.520 --> 01:57:08.319 Oh, it's right by the Indian Mounds, Native American Mounds. Yeah, 1929 01:57:08.760 --> 01:57:10.920 Ohio and the Great Lakes. 1930 01:57:12.399 --> 01:57:15.319 That's probably why Ohio dictates our elections. Just kidding. 1931 01:57:17.279 --> 01:57:19.840 There is something about that though, Lisa, you make you 1932 01:57:19.840 --> 01:57:21.920 you laugh about it, but there's something profound about what 1933 01:57:21.960 --> 01:57:25.359 you said, because there is an element where you know, 1934 01:57:25.439 --> 01:57:27.279 like it's it's a weird state if you look at 1935 01:57:27.319 --> 01:57:29.479 it from like a oh, politics is real. I know 1936 01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:32.399 that's not your personal perspective. But if you look at 1937 01:57:32.399 --> 01:57:35.159 it from like it's an ormy political it's it's a 1938 01:57:35.159 --> 01:57:40.239 weird state. Weird things happen there, Weird people are elected there. 1939 01:57:40.920 --> 01:57:41.880 I even think it's weird. 1940 01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:44.119 Like what I guess probably a reason, some sort of 1941 01:57:44.199 --> 01:57:47.000 weird reason like this why they always have the Iowa caucus, 1942 01:57:47.119 --> 01:57:48.840 Like why are you picking Iowa specific? 1943 01:57:49.720 --> 01:57:54.159 M It's just this necessaria. It's just just insane. 1944 01:57:54.319 --> 01:57:55.720 This is wild. 1945 01:57:56.600 --> 01:57:57.640 Well what did I do? 1946 01:57:57.720 --> 01:57:57.880 Oh? 1947 01:57:59.439 --> 01:58:02.399 Tim? To point, Nick and I have covered a couple 1948 01:58:02.439 --> 01:58:06.880 of occultists, and I think the overreaching conclusion that I've 1949 01:58:06.920 --> 01:58:10.920 come up with is that the original scientists were occultists. 1950 01:58:11.439 --> 01:58:15.800 They just changed their name. Because when you look at 1951 01:58:15.960 --> 01:58:18.680 how all the occult is congregated with the Holy Roman 1952 01:58:18.720 --> 01:58:24.279 Emperor Rudolph the Second in Prague, I believe that that 1953 01:58:24.479 --> 01:58:28.800 was exactly where the scientific method was birthed. If you 1954 01:58:28.920 --> 01:58:30.960 go all the way back and you look to see 1955 01:58:31.039 --> 01:58:34.279 when did it happen, It was in that location and 1956 01:58:34.319 --> 01:58:38.399 you had all of the Occultis conjoining there. They were 1957 01:58:38.439 --> 01:58:42.279 all making pilgrimages there, and he was supporting them, he 1958 01:58:42.720 --> 01:58:47.279 was their patron. So I think that they just changed 1959 01:58:47.279 --> 01:58:47.680 their name. 1960 01:58:48.119 --> 01:58:52.840 But it's like Isaac Newton wrote more on alchemy than 1961 01:58:52.880 --> 01:58:55.520 he did anything else show. 1962 01:58:58.000 --> 01:59:01.279 I think a lot of people know that enormies, don't. 1963 01:59:01.680 --> 01:59:05.560 That it's been I don't know if it's been offuscated 1964 01:59:05.640 --> 01:59:08.920 purposefully or if it's just something forgotten by history or 1965 01:59:08.960 --> 01:59:11.319 a natural progression of time. I don't know. I feel 1966 01:59:11.359 --> 01:59:15.239 like it's something that was probably said, you know, pushed aside, 1967 01:59:15.279 --> 01:59:19.760 like oh, we don't talk about that because science modern scientists, 1968 01:59:19.760 --> 01:59:22.520 they get uncomfortable when you start talking about alchemy. So 1969 01:59:22.560 --> 01:59:24.800 I don't think that they want it pointed out that 1970 01:59:24.920 --> 01:59:30.720 it goes back to the alchemists. I mean, they went 1971 01:59:30.840 --> 01:59:32.760 do something on this for a very long time, because 1972 01:59:32.800 --> 01:59:36.359 there's there's a lot there, Like what Least is talking about, 1973 01:59:36.399 --> 01:59:39.279 there's a there's a ton there, and it's all interesting stuff. 1974 01:59:40.760 --> 01:59:43.479 You have to remember that they took quite the job 1975 01:59:43.960 --> 01:59:51.640 to end the natural philosophers that were alchemists, geologists, anthropologists. 1976 01:59:51.640 --> 01:59:54.840 They were all in one, all cult metaphysical and physical, 1977 01:59:54.960 --> 01:59:58.520 all in one single researcher. There were multi disciplinary researcher 1978 01:59:58.600 --> 02:00:07.279 as was the fellow from gravity helped me please Newton 1979 02:00:07.680 --> 02:00:11.800 right Newton. Newton was an alchemist. They refused to admit 1980 02:00:11.880 --> 02:00:14.319 it as so they even tried to take that from 1981 02:00:14.319 --> 02:00:18.800 the books, and they did for most of them. So 1982 02:00:18.880 --> 02:00:23.680 when they introduced this materialistic view in the nineteenth century, 1983 02:00:23.880 --> 02:00:29.720 they tried to eradicate all metaphysical from science. Everything had 1984 02:00:29.760 --> 02:00:33.039 to be explained by what we observe. This is the rule. 1985 02:00:33.800 --> 02:00:36.600 So that's why they say that the continental plates are 1986 02:00:36.640 --> 02:00:40.239 moving for millions of years. That's three centimeters a year 1987 02:00:40.279 --> 02:00:43.560 on the Atlantic or one and a half in the 1988 02:00:43.680 --> 02:00:48.279 Indian Ocean, and so on, because that's what they've measured 1989 02:00:48.479 --> 02:00:52.560 since they started measuring, and they forget all of the rest, though, 1990 02:00:52.600 --> 02:00:56.720 all of those fellows that have goods and that show 1991 02:00:56.760 --> 02:01:01.199 that sometimes it moves very fast. What they say happened 1992 02:01:01.199 --> 02:01:04.119 through millions of years could have happened I don't know, 1993 02:01:04.159 --> 02:01:07.000 in a month, a year, we don't know, but it 1994 02:01:07.039 --> 02:01:12.159 could have happened very very quickly. And they eliminated all 1995 02:01:12.199 --> 02:01:15.600 of that. And so to go back to alchemy is 1996 02:01:15.720 --> 02:01:19.479 like going back in time for them. They couldn't allow it. 1997 02:01:20.239 --> 02:01:23.640 Although they become more dogmatic than the Church that they 1998 02:01:23.640 --> 02:01:24.760 were trying to avoid. 1999 02:01:26.439 --> 02:01:29.399 I will say that most of the occultists were polymaths 2000 02:01:29.720 --> 02:01:33.720 in that to be a scientist or slash occultist. You 2001 02:01:33.920 --> 02:01:38.600 had to be proficient in many topics, whereas now if 2002 02:01:38.640 --> 02:01:40.960 you go get a PhD, it is an a specific 2003 02:01:41.039 --> 02:01:43.359 topic and it's made you almost stupid to the other 2004 02:01:43.439 --> 02:01:48.159 topics because one language hyper focused, and they knew. 2005 02:01:48.079 --> 02:01:51.600 Very language, including those essential to read the secrets, like 2006 02:01:51.640 --> 02:01:52.199 the Latin. 2007 02:01:55.159 --> 02:01:59.359 Yeah, it was all systematically uprooted. Like Ricardo said, I 2008 02:01:59.399 --> 02:02:02.000 see a lot of that happening in the nineteenth century, 2009 02:02:02.279 --> 02:02:03.720 but I think it goes all the way back to 2010 02:02:03.880 --> 02:02:08.319 sixteen sixty six with the British Royal Society. Those guys 2011 02:02:08.479 --> 02:02:15.840 were on the spearhead of taking that alchemy and turning 2012 02:02:15.840 --> 02:02:19.119 it into what we now call science, turning the seance 2013 02:02:19.159 --> 02:02:24.760 into science essentially, and it's an error where the last 2014 02:02:24.840 --> 02:02:27.600 of the alchemists become the first of the scientists. But 2015 02:02:27.640 --> 02:02:29.840 there was a transition there and I see it starting 2016 02:02:29.880 --> 02:02:34.560 officially in sixteen sixty six, but you really see it 2017 02:02:34.680 --> 02:02:37.399 ramp up in the nineteenth century, where that's like where 2018 02:02:37.439 --> 02:02:39.520 the death blow to all this stuff really was. 2019 02:02:40.520 --> 02:02:44.520 I would say that happened because that time they start 2020 02:02:44.600 --> 02:02:49.079 looking at it or trying to document it as a 2021 02:02:49.119 --> 02:02:53.079 metaphysical experience, and they start to and I'll analyze it 2022 02:02:53.239 --> 02:02:56.840 from a scientific point of view of complete record of 2023 02:02:56.840 --> 02:03:00.199 what they're doing, registering what they were being introduced, what 2024 02:03:00.239 --> 02:03:04.479 the experiences included, and this brought results. This turns into this, 2025 02:03:04.720 --> 02:03:07.640 or this produced that, and these results were becoming more 2026 02:03:07.680 --> 02:03:12.399 and more scientific, and that's what increased this chasm that's 2027 02:03:12.439 --> 02:03:16.039 created between those that wanted to follow not only the scientific, 2028 02:03:16.119 --> 02:03:19.319 but the metaphysical and those that said that that wasn'to 2029 02:03:19.359 --> 02:03:22.560 science because if we got specific results, then it's not 2030 02:03:22.720 --> 02:03:26.760 something that you can just speculate from an interpreter a 2031 02:03:26.760 --> 02:03:31.359 metaphysical interpretation. So they slowly from the period that you 2032 02:03:31.439 --> 02:03:33.920 were set team there was the results that they were 2033 02:03:33.960 --> 02:03:38.680 obtaining was what led to this breakup between the metaphysical 2034 02:03:38.840 --> 02:03:42.560 and the science because they couldn't no longer they were 2035 02:03:42.600 --> 02:03:46.119 not communicating with one another in the same researcher, so 2036 02:03:46.119 --> 02:03:48.479 they had to decide what line to follow. 2037 02:03:49.720 --> 02:03:53.359 They became purists. They became purists almost by the way 2038 02:03:53.399 --> 02:03:57.600 of Christianity, the way Christian Protestant and the Puritans. They 2039 02:03:57.760 --> 02:04:01.239 distilled it down to what they wanted to be, and 2040 02:04:02.279 --> 02:04:04.079 that's what science did. It became a curius. 2041 02:04:05.039 --> 02:04:10.000 Yeah, it so slowly found its way and seeped into 2042 02:04:10.039 --> 02:04:12.720 the mainstream. And you know, so you have this guy. 2043 02:04:12.840 --> 02:04:16.479 I just pulled him up. Thomas Henry Huxley. He was. 2044 02:04:16.800 --> 02:04:19.680 He died in eighteen ninety five, so all this happened 2045 02:04:19.760 --> 02:04:22.439 like right before that. But he was an English biologist 2046 02:04:22.520 --> 02:04:26.199 and he was an anthropologist. He was he like specialized 2047 02:04:26.199 --> 02:04:30.560 in anatomy. But he became known as Darwin's bulldog. He 2048 02:04:30.600 --> 02:04:35.640 would he publicly advocate for Charles Darwin's theories at the 2049 02:04:35.680 --> 02:04:39.000 institutions of the day, and that was this was I 2050 02:04:39.000 --> 02:04:43.079 think this was the beginning of this stuff becoming mainstream. 2051 02:04:43.359 --> 02:04:49.800 Well, he was. He was the defender of the evolutionary 2052 02:04:49.960 --> 02:04:54.000 as as Darwin has put it, not specifically from my knowledge, 2053 02:04:54.039 --> 02:04:58.600 not specifically from science in general. But it's curious you 2054 02:04:58.640 --> 02:05:00.920 call him up because I believe that he was one 2055 02:05:00.960 --> 02:05:03.760 of the few that was not recognized at the time, 2056 02:05:04.079 --> 02:05:09.359 just later or prep because if they were not just ready, 2057 02:05:09.800 --> 02:05:13.239 the scientists were not ready to get rid of the 2058 02:05:13.319 --> 02:05:17.239 Christianity as the births of mankind and put it into 2059 02:05:17.279 --> 02:05:24.880 an arbitrary evolutionary results. So and he was ready for 2060 02:05:24.960 --> 02:05:27.680 that before them. He was ready to accept. 2061 02:05:28.000 --> 02:05:31.840 That it was still controversial when he was like saying 2062 02:05:31.880 --> 02:05:34.560 all this stuff. But I think he broke ground because 2063 02:05:34.720 --> 02:05:37.960 if you look look at his kids, look at Altus Huxley. 2064 02:05:39.880 --> 02:05:43.840 He had two kids. One of them was well known 2065 02:05:43.880 --> 02:05:50.000 for eugenics, for for like kicking off the field of eugenics, 2066 02:05:50.319 --> 02:05:53.000 and the other one wrote The Doors of Perception and 2067 02:05:53.239 --> 02:05:58.640 was like the psychologist psychological aspect of like stuff. I mean, 2068 02:05:58.640 --> 02:06:00.000 I don't I don't looked into this in a while, 2069 02:06:00.159 --> 02:06:03.439 but you see what you see where this type of 2070 02:06:03.479 --> 02:06:08.119 thinking leads through his lineage, and you know it's the 2071 02:06:08.199 --> 02:06:16.039 same people who brought us eugenics. Needn't say more, it's 2072 02:06:16.079 --> 02:06:17.079 it's at the end. 2073 02:06:17.359 --> 02:06:21.520 If you follow the names, it's all connected somehow, and 2074 02:06:21.600 --> 02:06:24.000 there is a point where you go receding in time, 2075 02:06:24.119 --> 02:06:28.119 you find where it connects from the physical to the 2076 02:06:28.159 --> 02:06:32.399 metaphysical ones. There is points of connection. So those that 2077 02:06:32.520 --> 02:06:36.079 are on the edge, like the walls of a castle, 2078 02:06:36.720 --> 02:06:41.720 are completely absorbed in the reality that was given them 2079 02:06:41.760 --> 02:06:44.239 by the system. But if as you go in the 2080 02:06:44.279 --> 02:06:47.560 inner circles of the structure, you find that the knowledge 2081 02:06:47.640 --> 02:06:51.520 increases and there is a wider range of interest, and 2082 02:06:51.560 --> 02:06:53.960 then you get to the focal point to the to 2083 02:06:54.079 --> 02:06:57.039 the to the tower itself and where it's the representation 2084 02:06:57.159 --> 02:07:01.680 of the full knowledge of reality includes both worlds, both 2085 02:07:01.720 --> 02:07:07.359 the physical and the metaphysical, and I think that's also 2086 02:07:07.439 --> 02:07:10.319 represented in the Tarot card of the tower, although I 2087 02:07:10.399 --> 02:07:12.720 know that it doesn't mean that, but you have both 2088 02:07:12.760 --> 02:07:15.840 elements represented by the tower that you understands the physical 2089 02:07:16.239 --> 02:07:20.159 and the metaphysical as the point of where the two 2090 02:07:20.960 --> 02:07:23.800 point where the two worlds converge. 2091 02:07:24.399 --> 02:07:31.119 It's interesting that, unfortunately it is I'm gonna have to 2092 02:07:31.119 --> 02:07:33.520 wrap this up since I did record this. I don't 2093 02:07:33.560 --> 02:07:34.880 know if you guys want to like plug your show, 2094 02:07:34.920 --> 02:07:36.279 because I'll probably use it and I'll send it to 2095 02:07:36.359 --> 02:07:37.640 you Tim if you want to use it as well. 2096 02:07:38.239 --> 02:07:41.640 Sure you failed to record your best show. 2097 02:07:42.960 --> 02:07:45.920 I got the audio. I got the yeah, yeah, I 2098 02:07:45.960 --> 02:07:49.800 got the audio. So I mean that was a yeah. 2099 02:07:49.960 --> 02:07:54.000 Uh, Lisa, is there anything you wanted to say or plug. 2100 02:07:53.800 --> 02:07:56.920 Or just just want to plug that. A lot of 2101 02:07:56.920 --> 02:08:01.800 Occult Rejects have contributed to Occult Research inst dot org, 2102 02:08:01.960 --> 02:08:05.239 Jen and Ethan and please check us out on that 2103 02:08:05.319 --> 02:08:10.199 Occult Occult Research Institute dot org. Thank you, thank you 2104 02:08:10.239 --> 02:08:11.960 for having me on. By the way, this is great. 2105 02:08:12.000 --> 02:08:15.000 This was amazing. Thank you andrec out a little Tim 2106 02:08:15.000 --> 02:08:18.119 and Jin. This was this was a very very great conversation. 2107 02:08:18.279 --> 02:08:20.039 Thank you so much, Thank. 2108 02:08:19.840 --> 02:08:21.000 You, very fun panel. 2109 02:08:21.159 --> 02:08:25.840 Hell yeah yeah, considering what happened. Yeah, Jen, please let 2110 02:08:25.840 --> 02:08:26.800 everybody know what's up. 2111 02:08:27.479 --> 02:08:30.800 Okay, Well, thanks Bossa for having me on and uh yeah, 2112 02:08:31.039 --> 02:08:33.279 this was a really fun panel. And Tim, I'm really 2113 02:08:33.319 --> 02:08:34.920 impressed by you because, like, if you can hang with 2114 02:08:35.000 --> 02:08:37.880 us in like our backstage pat chat like where we 2115 02:08:37.920 --> 02:08:41.239 talked about weird shit, like, that's pretty cool. And so 2116 02:08:41.319 --> 02:08:45.039 thanks Lisa Ethan Ricardo obviously always great to work with 2117 02:08:45.079 --> 02:08:47.840 you guys, And you can check me out Threshold Saints 2118 02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:53.000 at Instagram at at threshold Saints and on x Twitter 2119 02:08:53.159 --> 02:08:55.720 at Threshold Saints or my main account at wiucom reborn 2120 02:08:55.800 --> 02:08:57.680 w uk o and g you're born in my wink tree. 2121 02:08:57.720 --> 02:08:58.680 We'll be in the show notes. 2122 02:08:59.560 --> 02:09:01.760 Awesome, thank you very much. And Tim, why don't let 2123 02:09:01.760 --> 02:09:04.079 everybody know where they can find him as well? Sor 2124 02:09:04.119 --> 02:09:07.279 ry question, drim. 2125 02:09:06.199 --> 02:09:09.680 Happy to be here. I really appreciate in Bye. Fan 2126 02:09:09.800 --> 02:09:12.640 of the show for a while, and I think this 2127 02:09:12.800 --> 02:09:16.920 turned out probably the way probably should have because this 2128 02:09:17.000 --> 02:09:19.520 was a lot of fun. This is like Lisa said, 2129 02:09:19.520 --> 02:09:21.359 it's a really great conversation. 2130 02:09:20.960 --> 02:09:23.159 A totally different conversation for sure as well. So I 2131 02:09:23.199 --> 02:09:24.840 mean it turned out really nice. 2132 02:09:25.159 --> 02:09:28.359 Yeah, so yeah, happy to be here. I'm Tim Constantine. 2133 02:09:28.399 --> 02:09:32.199 My show is sixth Sensory Podcast I Spell It Out six. 2134 02:09:32.760 --> 02:09:38.600 I'm on Spotify, Apple, YouTube, Patreon and Instagram and yeah 2135 02:09:39.000 --> 02:09:40.640 check me out listen. 2136 02:09:40.840 --> 02:09:43.840 Thank you very much, sir and ric Hardo. Please let 2137 02:09:43.880 --> 02:09:45.840 everybody know where they can find all your amazing research 2138 02:09:45.880 --> 02:09:46.239 and stuff. 2139 02:09:47.039 --> 02:09:49.760 Sure, thank you. First of all, I'm disappointed because you 2140 02:09:49.840 --> 02:09:52.600 finished this before you had the opportunity to insult on 2141 02:09:52.600 --> 02:09:55.760 one another. We never got to that point, but. 2142 02:09:57.359 --> 02:09:58.159 It only doesn't have. 2143 02:10:00.560 --> 02:10:08.319 Just kidding never happened. So we never mix apples with oranges, 2144 02:10:08.880 --> 02:10:13.920 especially the ones from Florida and the Doppelgangers. 2145 02:10:14.560 --> 02:10:17.640 Yeah that's loddy. 2146 02:10:18.680 --> 02:10:23.119 So you can find me at x on at Ricotto, 2147 02:10:23.199 --> 02:10:28.359 Calvary one, History Meets and Latins and YouTube and Institute 2148 02:10:28.359 --> 02:10:31.039 for Natal Philosophy dot org where you see where you 2149 02:10:31.079 --> 02:10:36.199 can contribute to our research or even accomplish some of 2150 02:10:36.239 --> 02:10:36.760 your plans. 2151 02:10:36.880 --> 02:10:37.680 You just go to. 2152 02:10:39.159 --> 02:10:42.199 The about page. Sorry, become a member. You don't have 2153 02:10:42.239 --> 02:10:44.279 to become a member, but that's how it's written. Become 2154 02:10:44.319 --> 02:10:47.239 a member then you have professional positions. You fill out 2155 02:10:47.239 --> 02:10:49.439 the form and we'll get in touch with you either 2156 02:10:49.479 --> 02:10:52.359 for voluntary or other kind of work. Thank you for 2157 02:10:52.399 --> 02:10:54.960 having me Unich. Thank you all. It was a pleasure. Team, 2158 02:10:55.000 --> 02:10:56.039 Thank you very much. 2159 02:10:56.199 --> 02:10:58.039 Of course, no, thank you. It's always a pleasure to 2160 02:10:58.039 --> 02:11:00.760 have you on RECORDO please thank you. And last but 2161 02:11:00.800 --> 02:11:04.560 not least, man himself Ethan Indigo, thank you. 2162 02:11:04.960 --> 02:11:08.079 Thank you everyone for putting up with my lastly internet connection. 2163 02:11:09.000 --> 02:11:13.920 And what a great learning experience as always, Tim wonderful 2164 02:11:14.039 --> 02:11:15.600 to meet you and here what we. 2165 02:11:15.640 --> 02:11:16.239 Have to say. 2166 02:11:17.159 --> 02:11:22.159 And Ethan Indigo on all the usual social media and yeah, 2167 02:11:22.319 --> 02:11:26.079 check out the Cult Research Institute. More more writing there 2168 02:11:26.119 --> 02:11:26.439 to come. 2169 02:11:26.479 --> 02:11:28.920 And appreciate you guys a lot of. 2170 02:11:28.840 --> 02:11:31.720 Course, thank you, and people are still listening. This basically 2171 02:11:31.840 --> 02:11:34.199 was just a show that started because we're I guess 2172 02:11:34.199 --> 02:11:37.039 to let people know they are supposed to reschedule. We 2173 02:11:37.039 --> 02:11:39.720 were supposed to have Don Webon, certain issues came up 2174 02:11:39.720 --> 02:11:42.319 he couldn't come on, so basically I just hit the 2175 02:11:42.319 --> 02:11:43.960 record button on the audio and we hung out for 2176 02:11:44.000 --> 02:11:47.720 two hours. So hopefully next time Don Webb will be here. 2177 02:11:47.760 --> 02:11:49.439 So that's a little teaser for the people listening to 2178 02:11:49.439 --> 02:11:51.600 the audio stuff. Hopefully Don Webb will be coming on 2179 02:11:51.680 --> 02:11:55.279 to talk about his latest book, but thank you will Again, 2180 02:11:55.399 --> 02:11:58.039 I apologize for the situation, but I had a great 2181 02:11:58.079 --> 02:12:00.199 time and I like again like I think with Tim's said, 2182 02:12:00.359 --> 02:12:01.960 things worked out the way they were supposed to. So 2183 02:12:02.920 --> 02:12:05.720 I'll go with that and until the next one, everybody 2184 02:12:05.800 --> 02:12:06.119 be well. 2185 02:12:06.439 --> 02:12:06.680 Later