WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:01.879 You'll be away five seventeen. 2 00:00:01.960 --> 00:00:04.879 Do you want to report a UFO hanging in? 3 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:06.440 We don't want. 4 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:08.560 To report every thirty one. 5 00:00:08.560 --> 00:00:09.480 Do you wish to report a. 6 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:13.279 UFO over hey, we want to one of those data. 7 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:15.439 Areas thirty one. 8 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.160 Do you wish to find a report of any kind 9 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:17.320 of it? 10 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:22.640 I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds, time areas 11 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:25.120 thirty one me neither there. 12 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:30.480 See if it was anybody above us to pass us, 13 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:32.280 Like thirty seconds ago, we. 14 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:37.039 Were sending one top of golf negative, okay, OFFI the UFO. 15 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:39.719 Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock. 16 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:43.640 Yes, I'll just passed over God. I don't know what 17 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:46.439 it was, but it's from at least to three thousand 18 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:48.240 feet above us. See, I passed out over the top 19 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:48.679 of US. 20 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:51.679 Ninety one one. 21 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:55.359 You just called up to me before. 22 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:59.159 They're after staying the airplanes. 23 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:06.079 Here to God more Calm on an Unidentified Object every 24 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:10.239 Liberty four call or Calm on an Unidentified Flying Object. 25 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:19.120 A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share 26 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:24.400 their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had 27 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:26.519 an encounter, I would like to be on the show. 28 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:32.519 You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. 29 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:51.640 Hello everyone, I hope you're doing well out there. I'm 30 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:55.400 Nick Hunter and this is a UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight's 31 00:01:55.439 --> 00:01:58.000 guest is Ryan, coming to us from the state of 32 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:01.480 Pennsylvania and back in eighteen ninety four when he was 33 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:05.000 just fifteen years old, Ryan and two friends were crossing 34 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:09.120 a golf course at around midnight when something interrupted the night. 35 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:13.639 A silent object ascended directly above them and hovered overhead 36 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:18.879 while it's underside slowly rotated, displaying brilliant multi colored lights. 37 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:23.280 And frightened by what they had witnessed, they ran. Ryan 38 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.479 is up next. But first, if you enjoyed a show 39 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:29.439 and you would like to help support the podcast on Patreon, 40 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:31.879 you can do this for as little as one dollar 41 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:35.159 a month. Head on over to patreon dot com forward 42 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:38.639 slash UFO Chronicles podcast. You can also find a link 43 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:41.560 in the description of this episode. Any help is very 44 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:42.599 much appreciated. 45 00:02:42.960 --> 00:03:01.080 Now on with the show. Hello, Welcome to the show. 46 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:04.400 Hey Nick, how are you good to be here? Thanks 47 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:04.919 for having me. 48 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:06.759 It is my pleasure. 49 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:09.159 Ryan, and you'll come in to us from the state 50 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:10.159 of Pennsylvania. 51 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:12.879 I am the good old Billy Suburbs. 52 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:15.879 Great stuff, great stuff. Okay, Now, Ryan, you have some 53 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:18.159 experiences you're going to be sharing with us. Would you 54 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:19.919 like to start at the beginning, please, sir? 55 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.479 Yes, absolutely right. I had an experience when I was 56 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:29.680 fifteen and I was with two friends. It was Memorial Day. 57 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:32.840 It was the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend in nineteen 58 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:37.120 ninety four, and we were all fifteen years old, and 59 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:41.120 we ate full disclosure, my friend's sister had a party, 60 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:44.159 and you know, one of the guys was a drug dealer, 61 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:47.240 and he stashed magic mushrooms in a couch on the 62 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:49.080 Year's Eve and they were in the couch for like 63 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:51.800 four or five months. And my buddy's like, Ryan, you're tough. 64 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:53.919 Dig your hand down that couch. There's a bag of 65 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:56.199 mushrooms in now, let's eat them. So we did, which 66 00:03:56.280 --> 00:03:58.240 wasn't a great idea, but you live and you learn, 67 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:00.159 and I was, honestly, I think I was way too 68 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:01.919 young meat mushrooms. I think all of us were. I 69 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:03.439 don't think you should do that until you're older and 70 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:05.960 more mature. But as an adult, that's just my reasoning 71 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:07.960 because it makes sense. But when you're a kid, you don't. 72 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:10.159 You don't listen to reason, You don't really You just 73 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:11.759 do what you want to do. So we ate them. 74 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:15.400 And I wasn't hallucinating, like I didn't see anything. 75 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:16.639 Like I visually. 76 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:19.480 It was just like, you know, oh, your your nerve 77 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:22.079 endings just vibrating, your own body's vibrating. And we were 78 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:25.120 all just sitting there and walking around, and you know, 79 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:28.240 we went to this town. We crossed this golf course 80 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:30.040 near my buddy's house to get to this whole town 81 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:31.759 that we hung out in, and there were some friends 82 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:34.240 there running from the cops or whatever, and we kind 83 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:36.079 of broke off with them because you know, you feel 84 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:39.079 a little paranoid or whatever the effects are. 85 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:39.839 So we left. 86 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:43.240 And by the time we left, it was about twelve o'clock. 87 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:45.120 And we got back on the golf course to cut 88 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:47.560 through and go back to my buddy's house to watch 89 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:50.639 TV or something. And we were walking right about in 90 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:53.879 the eighteenth hole and we look up and there was 91 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:57.079 this UFO circling right above us. It came straight down 92 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:00.519 out of nowhere, and it was circling around about thirty 93 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:03.160 feet wide, and it had what I would describe now 94 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:05.959 as led lights, like the different color lights that make 95 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:09.079 like a blue or red, but they were different colors, 96 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:11.560 and there was a big white light in the middle, 97 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:15.560 and my buddy Matt and I ran and because we 98 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.680 saw it. My friend Anthony was standing there and he 99 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:19.879 didn't see it. And we ran about, you know, about 100 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:23.040 twenty thirty feet away, and we turned around. Anthony still 101 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:25.920 standing underneath it, directly under the white light or whatever, 102 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:29.480 and we're like, you gotta run, you're standing underneath the UFO. 103 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:30.560 He's like, I don't see it. I don't know what 104 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:33.439 you're talking about. We're liked, just run, come on. So 105 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:35.360 finally he ended up listening to us, and we ran 106 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:38.279 away and it disappeared and we looked back and it's gone, 107 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:40.560 Like I say, we got like once he joined us. 108 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:43.439 We got about twenty feet away and I looked back 109 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:46.920 over my shoulder and had disappeared. But that was a 110 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:49.800 real experience, and you know, I would say, less than 111 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:53.160 six months later, Matt and I were both the ones 112 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:55.959 who saw it, and we had each had, you know, 113 00:05:56.079 --> 00:05:59.279 at sixteen years old, a mental breakdown in his class, 114 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:00.959 and I got it. I kind of got kicked out 115 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.879 of school for fighting and for acting really bad, and 116 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:05.680 I was a normal I was. I mean, I had 117 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:08.279 a rough childhood, but for the most part, I had 118 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:11.759 friends and girlfriends and things were as normal as I 119 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.639 could get them. Besides my behavior, you know, my grades 120 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:17.920 were always bad, and my home life was pretty traumatic, 121 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:20.959 and so was Matt's, and so was Anthony's. We were 122 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:23.279 all kind of in the same boat in terms of 123 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:26.720 family life. So I've always heard that people who have 124 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:29.160 experienced with this, and I don't know that it was 125 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.879 an abduction experience. I've never had any sort of hypnosis 126 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:35.560 or anything like that to prove it. When I registered 127 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:39.199 this with mouf On recently, it was almost the thirty 128 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:41.959 two year anniversary, I would say it was last spring. 129 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:45.959 I called I Rest the move On and I registered 130 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:49.480 this as an actual experience. And what had triggered all 131 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:52.079 of this after all these years was I watched documentary 132 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:54.720 that just came out last spring, and I watched it 133 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:57.120 and my wife sitting with me, and she likes to 134 00:06:57.160 --> 00:06:59.639 tease me about it because we joked that Daddy's friends 135 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:02.560 with als. Because I have recurring dreams about aliens all 136 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:05.639 the time in our house and you know, in the 137 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:08.480 front yard or you know, I've dreamt that it ship 138 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:10.240 landed in the front yard before and it took me 139 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:12.319 in another guy from the neighborhood who I don't know. 140 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:16.120 It took us somewhere and I brought us back. That 141 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:19.000 that dream happened about three years ago. But my wife 142 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:20.560 was teasing me when we were watching it. She's like, 143 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:23.000 you know, I recognized some of the some of the 144 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:26.319 things that they're saying in this documentary this guy experience, 145 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:28.920 and one of the thing was that he dreamt of 146 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:31.639 the Avians, which I've dreamt of them before. I just 147 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:34.639 thought there were angels with just feathers all over themselves. 148 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:37.600 But after watching that documentary, I'm like, oh, there are 149 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:39.839 many different types of aliens. Because I never really took 150 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:42.879 it seriously, I would tell this story once in a 151 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:45.519 while if I felt comfortable enough with people, especially after 152 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:48.959 a couple of drinks or relaxed, but I never let 153 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:51.079 it out because I don't know if I was embarrassed 154 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:55.000 or scared or or what the deal was. But I 155 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:59.439 figured I already had enough problems with like with you know, 156 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:01.639 with having a couple of mental breakdowns when I was 157 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:04.199 younger due to my family life and things like that. 158 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:06.480 I'm like, I don't need anybody else saying things about me, 159 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:09.000 So I'm not gonna tell them I had alien experiences either. 160 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:11.160 But at this point in my life, I'm okay. Like 161 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:14.600 I'm a husband, I'm a father, I'm a small business owner. 162 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:17.360 I do plumbing for a living. I bought my dad's business, 163 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:20.759 So I'm doing great. But after watching that story and 164 00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:23.839 listening to stories about the solar wardens and all the 165 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:27.600 different aliency experience and and how they are different phenomenon 166 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:30.279 that were going on in his house, I said to myself, 167 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:32.320 there are other people like me. I don't know why 168 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:34.240 I don't. I don't I don't report this. 169 00:08:34.840 --> 00:08:36.399 So I did, well, how about move on? 170 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:40.159 And I made a report and I had a great 171 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:42.639 couple of phone calls with with a guy, a local guy, 172 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:47.759 And after my report was made, he had done the investigating. 173 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:50.000 He checked out the golf course, he checked out the 174 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:51.960 date and the time, and I've always remembered the date 175 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:55.200 and the time, and he just he said it could 176 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:56.879 only be one of two things. It could either have 177 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:59.879 been a government craft or an actual UFO. So he's 178 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:04.080 just like, whatever you saw was was real. And he's like, well, 179 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:06.080 you know, I told him about the mushrooms, and he's like, well, 180 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:09.080 did you see anything else that night, like where any 181 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:11.159 other hallucinations? I said, no, it was just that. Like 182 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:13.720 it's just like I said, my nerve endings were vibrating 183 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:16.759 and my body, which makes your body feel like it's vibrating. 184 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:20.000 I've never really been one for drugs, but you know, 185 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:23.440 the ones I did really were enough. I'm not personally 186 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:25.919 who really partied that much. I've always been kind of 187 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:26.720 like a like. 188 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:27.919 A socially conservative guy. 189 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:30.799 I don't know, but it doesn't mean I wasn't bad behaved. 190 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:33.960 I just I didn't do a whole lot of you know, 191 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:36.080 mushrooms or acid or anything like that. So a few 192 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:39.000 times I did it, I remember them. And you know, 193 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:43.080 he's like, well, I was worried because the UFO books 194 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.639 that I've read, it's mostly pilots or people who are 195 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:49.120 of some mind, who have their stories believed. As soon 196 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:52.600 as somebody's drunk or or high, you know, they're just 197 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:55.519 completely discredited. And a guy who's interviewing me is just like, no, 198 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:57.840 it's he's like, it's not like that. Just you know, 199 00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:01.120 continue on my story, and and sure enough he's like, yeah, 200 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.200 it could only be one of two things. So I'm 201 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:06.440 going to start attending meetings with Moufan and you know, 202 00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:08.360 getting a little more involved because I want to I 203 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:10.159 want to know about what I've been through, Like it's 204 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:13.039 it's time. It's been long enough, and it's always been 205 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.240 something that's been on my mind that I've kicked around, 206 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:19.240 and I think it's something that changed me because six 207 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:21.440 months after it happened, my my friends and I were 208 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:25.320 both in group homes and that's kind of a weird coincidence, 209 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:29.039 and he got hooked on terrible drugs, terrible. I got lucky. 210 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.039 I saw the light and I, you know, as soon 211 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:34.240 as I was allowed back in high school, I got 212 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:36.279 I kind of got kicked out for fighting and just 213 00:10:36.960 --> 00:10:39.000 you know, all out bad behavior. But as soon as 214 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:41.320 I cleaned myself up, they let me back and they said, I, 215 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:43.080 you know, I had to do something after school. So 216 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:45.559 I joined the wrestling team and I started doing my 217 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:48.200 homework and I got into a four year tech school 218 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:50.960 to study heating and air conditionings. My my family had 219 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:54.240 been plumber support generations and here I am years later. 220 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:55.879 So it was it was a good move that I 221 00:10:56.279 --> 00:10:59.799 that I made, but I really had to struggle because 222 00:10:59.879 --> 00:11:02.200 for a while, you know, it was like I lost 223 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:05.320 all my social skills, I lost my sense of humor. 224 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:08.559 I was kind of like a shell for a number 225 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:11.480 of years until I had to like completely rebuild my personality. 226 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:15.679 And I don't necessarily know you can make the argument 227 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:17.519 that it was the mushrooms that night did it, but 228 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:21.720 it was a progression over course of about six months 229 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:25.440 that just I was just deteriorating little by little, and 230 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:27.679 it kind of, I gotta say it kind of started 231 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:30.279 around that time. I did have lime disease when I 232 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:33.360 was eleven, So I wonder if, like I have a 233 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:36.399 really bad reaction to marijuana. So I wonder if somehow 234 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:42.759 my my metabolism, you know that my metabolism doesn't doesn't 235 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:45.480 work well with drugs, which is fine. I'm perfectly happy 236 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:48.919 not doing them. But if I were to smoke pot, 237 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:54.480 I would absolutely start having like paranormal experiences where I 238 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:57.639 think I'm in a different dimension, but I'm living in 239 00:11:57.759 --> 00:12:01.320 this one, which is not good. So you know, I 240 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:04.039 need to live here and be a good person, so 241 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:06.720 I don't. I don't do that. You know, It's it's 242 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:08.960 like the old adage, you know, you go to the 243 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.679 doctor and you touch your elbow and they say, you know, 244 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:13.720 my elbow hearts and the doctor's like, well, then don't 245 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:15.720 touch your elbow right there. So that's that's the thing 246 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:19.440 with me and pot or mushrooms. I haven't done mushrooms 247 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:22.519 for years. Anyway, it's not it's a non issue. Yeah, 248 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.279 I just I have these ever since, ever since that time, 249 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:29.440 Like even as an adult. I would say, like as 250 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:33.879 I got older, I kind of trugg I reinvented myself 251 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:36.360 and got became healthy. I started exercising a lot. I 252 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:38.919 graduated college and then nice girl and we settled down. 253 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:42.320 It was it kind of I didn't really have a 254 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:44.799 whole Like my social life has never been great because 255 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:46.720 I kind of have this thing where I just tell 256 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:49.080 people what I think, and it's not great for friendships, 257 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:52.720 especially if you know, there's always a bit of hazing 258 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:55.960 when you meet new people. And when I was a teenager, 259 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:57.799 after all this stuff happened, like I said, I kind 260 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:00.240 of lost my sense of humor. So like when people 261 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:01.840 ra ass me a little bit, like I get I 262 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.399 get kind of hype, and I, you know, I might 263 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:07.480 say things that I probably shouldn't people, And yeah, that 264 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:09.960 prevents me from making new friends sometimes, but I've gotten 265 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:13.759 better as an adult. So through that time period, you know, 266 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.120 we got married, we had friends, I did used to 267 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:18.399 go out a lot, and I had a good social life, 268 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.840 and we had kids. And then after we had kids, 269 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:22.919 and I started like falling asleep on the couch a lot, 270 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:25.120 like just out of exhaustion, or I would drink and 271 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:27.519 fall asleep on the couch. I would have these recurring 272 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:30.200 dreams about aliens every time I slept on it. They 273 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:32.639 would be tall grays and they would yell at me 274 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:33.759 and tell me to. 275 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:34.200 Go to bed. 276 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:36.840 Like there was my recurring dream. They would surround me 277 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:38.960 on the couch and they would just you know, they 278 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:40.799 would all kind of duck down, looking at me like 279 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:43.399 they're gonna give me a beat down, and they would yell. 280 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.120 One would yell, go to bed. And that was my 281 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:49.919 recurring dream for years in my thirties and my forties, 282 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:51.679 and I came in account how many times that happened 283 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:53.240 to me. And we moved to a new house and 284 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:55.120 it would like, even then, my couch is in the 285 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:57.320 middle of the room, so they would completely surround me, 286 00:13:57.360 --> 00:14:00.279 where before it was against the wall. But that was 287 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:02.759 that's the family joke that he's friends with aliens, because 288 00:14:02.799 --> 00:14:06.279 I've had that dream so many times. But I've also 289 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:09.159 had a dream since we moved that I was taken 290 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.919 to a facility one night near my house and they 291 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:15.320 did testing to me. And then I was driving past 292 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.360 this place one night, pointed to it. I told my wife, 293 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:20.720 I said, that's the place of my dream. And then 294 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:23.960 about three years later it turned into a gymnastics place 295 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:28.039 and my daughter would go there. And I'm in this 296 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:29.840 building and I'm looking around. I'm like, I can't believe 297 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:31.960 this is the same place in my dream. And in 298 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:33.960 the middle there was there was there was all these 299 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:36.080 pillars everywhere, and you could you could barely see the 300 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:38.480 kids like there were there were so many pillars that 301 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:40.799 you know, when the kids do gymnastics, they would be 302 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:43.440 behind one pillar and then behind another. One was really irritating. 303 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:46.240 And I looked up and I'm like, those things are 304 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.120 supporting a helicopter pat like this place there was choppers 305 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:51.919 landing on this roof. What the hell was going on here? 306 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:54.919 And I looked around and a lady who runs and said, yeah, 307 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:57.039 it used to be some sort of pharmaceutical or medical 308 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:58.799 place blah blah blah, and I'm like, what the hell? 309 00:14:59.440 --> 00:14:59.840 So that was? 310 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:02.279 That was a weird experience. And that was one of 311 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:06.159 those things where you have these dreams then you see 312 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:07.759 a place in real life and it's not far from 313 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.120 my house, and it's like, holy shit, is this is real? 314 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:13.679 I don't know, Like that's Those are kind of the 315 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:17.399 regressed memories that maybe hypnosis could handle. But in the 316 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:19.360 same sense, like do I do I want to know 317 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:22.080 what it was? I have no idea, but maybe, well 318 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:23.919 maybe one day I'll build up the courage and I'll 319 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:26.559 do it. But if not, it's it's still relevant to 320 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:30.080 our story today. And I would say about three years ago, 321 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:33.240 I had another not a breakdown, but I was on 322 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:38.440 this medication for anxiety, which any depressants, whatever they are, 323 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:40.440 and it was the same. You know, they had me 324 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:42.159 on similar drugs when I was a teenager and I 325 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:45.480 had really bad reaction, and you know, it all kind 326 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:48.279 of it all kind of molds together, these these issues 327 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:50.799 that I've had and went away, and then you know, 328 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:52.519 went away after I got off of when I was 329 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:55.399 a teenager and I found it was about you know, 330 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:58.000 I was on those drugs for about as soon as 331 00:15:58.000 --> 00:15:59.440 they put me in a group home when I was sixteen. 332 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:01.320 I was on them for about a year, and then 333 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:04.039 I found out I had a thyroid disorder, you know, 334 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:08.080 and sometimes people get thiraid disorders from being exposed to radiation. 335 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:11.039 Sometimes you're in the family. I don't know. I had 336 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:13.440 that as a teenager, which is strange for a teenage 337 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:15.679 boy to have. So as soon as they took me 338 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:19.519 off to the antidepressants and put me on the Thiray medicine, 339 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.120 I did start to get progressively better. And that's that's 340 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:24.679 also I started doing playing sports and doing my homework. 341 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:28.919 So flash forward to you know, my early forties, and 342 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:32.320 my brother passes away. I put myself on this medicine again, 343 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:34.440 because that's what our society tells you. You know, if 344 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:37.039 you're feeling bad, and if you're you're upset, or you're angry, 345 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:39.960 you're sad, put yourself on this medicine. So I did, 346 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:42.759 and I progressively started to get worse and worse and worse. 347 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:48.039 And I realized that. So so as I'm going down 348 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.000 this rabbit hole, I'm having these dreams, and one dream 349 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:56.200 in particular was this UFO, this disc shaped thing that's 350 00:16:56.360 --> 00:16:57.759 very similar to what I saw when I was a 351 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.440 teenager face to face. So I had this dream where 352 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:02.360 I'm standing in my garage. The garage door was open. 353 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:04.880 This thing lands in my neighbor's yard right right in 354 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:07.119 front of me, and I'm terrified, and the tall gray 355 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.079 gets out wearing a suit and it starts talking to me, 356 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:11.960 and I'm like, you know, I'm really terrified, Like if 357 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:14.359 you want me to talk to you, or come closer, 358 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:15.920 or go for a ride in this thing with you, 359 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:19.920 like take my fear away. So it did, and all 360 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:21.880 of a sudden, I wasn't scared, so I'm like, fine, whatever, 361 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:25.279 like I'll go with you into this UFO and they 362 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:27.319 brought this there was other ones, and they brought this 363 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:30.279 other guy from my neighborhood into the UFO as well, 364 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.079 and we all left and came back and I woke up. 365 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:35.519 I have no idea like where we would have went 366 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:38.000 in the dream or if it was real, But that's 367 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:40.440 another one that I had that was that was really interesting. 368 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:43.839 So those are basically the big things. And then as 369 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:46.599 I'm talking to the man who's been interviewing me on 370 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:50.440 from MUFAN, He's like, have you experienced porter guys. I said, yes, 371 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:52.880 I said, I experienced them at work. I said, I 372 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:55.480 experienced them in my kitchen. It's like I'll be I'll 373 00:17:55.480 --> 00:17:57.400 be cooking and something will fly out of my hand, 374 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:01.319 you know, I said, especially when I'm with sharp objects, 375 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:04.119 like I'm very careful to hold them like toward myself 376 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:06.480 and things like that, because things fly out of my 377 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.240 hands all the time, and I'm like, kitchen it's the 378 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:10.119 strangest thing. He's like, well, it's kind of the side 379 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:13.559 effect of what happens to people who have experiences you're 380 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:15.640 like yours. And it happens to me at work too, 381 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:17.839 because I'm a plumber and I work on boilers and 382 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:20.640 air condisues and I always do things and it just 383 00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:22.960 still has It's usually when I have a sharp object, 384 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:25.839 and it's usually like aimed at myself, like it's kind 385 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:27.839 of like I'm not inflicting pain on myself, but things 386 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:30.319 fall out of my hands or you know, it seems 387 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:33.000 like they like I'm dropping them, or they just fly 388 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:35.920 out of my hands and then I have to like dodgs, 389 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:38.200 like get out of the way. It's the strangest thing. 390 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:42.720 But I suppose that's one of those side effects of 391 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:46.519 having an experience. So I'm super careful, especially when my 392 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:48.480 kids are around me. Jesus Christ, and knife's gonna fly 393 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:50.400 out of my hand and protect so I you know, 394 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:52.599 you just go back to go back to your training 395 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:54.680 as a child, and you just hold the knives correctly 396 00:18:54.680 --> 00:18:58.000 and you're super careful and you know whatever. But I'm 397 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:01.160 not here to talk about knife training. So in terms 398 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:04.559 of anything else that's happened, that's kind of the majority 399 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:09.240 of it. And as I so I said before, I 400 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:13.920 wasn't comfortable coming forward and talking about it. So I 401 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:17.079