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The food is fantastic. 52 00:02:34,759 --> 00:02:37,240 Get those potato skins that are the size of my head. 53 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:42,199 Speaker 3: Yes, everything's not loaded to the loaded tater skins. Every 54 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,800 made to order. Everything is made to order. So if 55 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,840 you ever go in there and you're not you know 56 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:49,400 what I mean. You have to wait like a little 57 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,240 bit and you have no patience, you're an asshole because 58 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,800 nothing's frozen there. Everything is made, Everything is mean to order. 59 00:02:56,599 --> 00:03:02,319 Speaker 1: I just got a message. Uh think. 60 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,759 Speaker 2: I got a message the other day from somebody going, 61 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,639 I want to tell you about my bt B experience. 62 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,800 The food was fantastic, all this stuff, Like, I got 63 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,639 this big long text message and I don't know it 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,960 did You can text this show anytime at five, eight 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,840 five two or six eighty eight sixty six. 66 00:03:19,879 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: So anyway, that was. 67 00:03:21,439 --> 00:03:25,039 Speaker 2: Uh, that's great, right that at seven o'clock. And I 68 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,240 would suggest get to be TV, but get there by 69 00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:29,120 like six or six thirty, don't you think I. 70 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: Think it might be busy meal. We have a joke 71 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:37,280 and we always had since bet to Billies, Bills fans 72 00:03:37,319 --> 00:03:39,960 don't go out anymore and they're lame. Yeah, I mean 73 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,680 you go to floor, you go to Tampa. We went 74 00:03:41,719 --> 00:03:44,240 to Tampa to Bills Bar, and you could even move 75 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:44,759 in the place. 76 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's warm and it's you know, it's Tampa. 77 00:03:47,719 --> 00:03:50,759 Speaker 2: And I don't know, I hear you though, but I 78 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,919 can't imagine, like, there's not a better place on a 79 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,919 Monday night. And it's tough on a Monday because you 80 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,560 got to get up to go to work on Tuesday. Uh, 81 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:02,039 some people have the day off off, so maybe that'll 82 00:04:02,039 --> 00:04:05,080 increase a little bit. And the game being earlier, I 83 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,199 would suggest, I say, go go have a great time. 84 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely, that is the best place to watch football. 85 00:04:11,159 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: That. 86 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's no better place. And it's not 87 00:04:13,319 --> 00:04:15,719 actually saying that. I know, I know I'm biased. 88 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: Well I would think that people go, oh, oh you're 89 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,319 buddy too. I've gone other places to watch games. Matt 90 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,279 makes the environment fun. They play the shout song, they 91 00:04:24,319 --> 00:04:26,759 do these things. It's just a it's a fun environment. 92 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,560 It's a welcoming environment, and it's a ton of bills 93 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,240 and they got great. 94 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: People that work there too. Yeah, you know, it's a 95 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:33,000 great staff. 96 00:04:33,319 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: So let's get into Mark, who became Mark the Soldier. 97 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:39,279 Grew up in Greece. 98 00:04:39,439 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: I grew up in Greece my whole life, Yes, your 99 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,360 whole life, yep uh. 100 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: And what was your connection to what were you doing? 101 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,000 I knew you knew. 102 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,639 Speaker 3: Doug right because you guys worked with me and Doug 103 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:51,560 I grew up together. 104 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 105 00:04:52,319 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 3: I was on his bowling team when we were like 106 00:04:54,959 --> 00:04:58,040 twelve thirteen, and I was a crappy buller and and 107 00:04:58,079 --> 00:05:00,439 he made fun of me, so okay, I make fun 108 00:05:00,439 --> 00:05:00,720 of him. 109 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 2: So I kind of like, yeah, it's all work out, 110 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,360 so kind of balance the differancial life. 111 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: And but then eventually you end. 112 00:05:08,079 --> 00:05:12,079 Speaker 3: Up at CMF accidentally, and I think you were there 113 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,319 when you started. I was there, right, We started at 114 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:17,600 the exact same time. 115 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: Because I came in, I had sent I had gone 116 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:24,839 to Fisher. My dad would send me money to party. 117 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,160 Every two weeks I would check for fifty bucks. 118 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: Woud show up and. 119 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,519 Speaker 3: I had the bucks to party. 120 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 121 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: It was nineteen ninety it was, and everything was paid 122 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,720 for by the way. I had all my meals paid for. 123 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,160 I had the full meal plan, so this is just 124 00:05:38,199 --> 00:05:41,920 fun money. What I stupidly did was, as my sister 125 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:47,839 recently referred to this person as my trashy girlfriend who 126 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,759 was back home, I would blow like the fifty dollars 127 00:05:50,759 --> 00:05:52,079 on a phone bill talking to her. 128 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: All those phone bills. Yeah, see, the young people used 129 00:05:56,319 --> 00:05:58,720 to have phones that used to be and you know, 130 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,160 used to come out of a wall. 131 00:06:00,439 --> 00:06:00,959 Speaker 1: That's right. 132 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 2: And so when I went back, I went back and 133 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,560 he said to me, you I'm not paying. I'm not 134 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,000 paying now. Now you got to get a job. So 135 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,079 I was like, do I wait tables? Because I waited 136 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,439 tables for the summer. But I had also spent the 137 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,920 previous year because I got a little bit of trouble. 138 00:06:27,399 --> 00:06:29,959 So it was like a mutual agreed upon thing that 139 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,120 I would sit for one year. I was benched for 140 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,920 a year and I wasn't going to go to college. 141 00:06:35,959 --> 00:06:37,920 That's when like the owner of the station came to 142 00:06:37,959 --> 00:06:41,399 me that I worked at. Rob Dyson goes, come to 143 00:06:41,439 --> 00:06:43,879 Maras and that's when my old man goes, Okay, here's 144 00:06:43,879 --> 00:06:46,279 the deal. You can go to Marris, figure out how 145 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,360 to pay for it, get your own apartment, or you 146 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,399 can go live with my brother in Park City for 147 00:06:51,439 --> 00:06:55,160 the summer. Come back and I'll pay for Fisher. That's 148 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:56,519 what he said to me. So I'm like, well, I'm 149 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,399 not dummy, and all right, there you go. I went 150 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:00,920 to Park City, had a great summer, but I worked 151 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,600 as a waiter. It was a terrible waiter, terrible, terrible 152 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,560 to think about all the people you've ever hired, I 153 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,800 was the fucking worst. Oh my god, I've had. I 154 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,120 couldn't uncork a bottle of wine the first time. I 155 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,439 remember this guy going as I couldn't either. I was trying, 156 00:07:14,519 --> 00:07:16,120 try and trying, and he goes to me, is this 157 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:17,920 your first time? And I look at him dead seriously. 158 00:07:17,959 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: I go, yeah, I've been funny. If you said no, 159 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:22,920 I was like, but I was twenty one. 160 00:07:23,439 --> 00:07:26,199 Speaker 2: But I so anyway, figure all that stuff out, come 161 00:07:26,199 --> 00:07:30,199 back here. And I had done overnights for a year, 162 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:33,079 so I didn't even know what kind of tape to 163 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:33,639 put together. 164 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,519 Speaker 1: So I had aliens. 165 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,959 Speaker 2: Landing and eating yellow snow and me throwing up and 166 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,120 calling payphones in the middle of the night. And that's 167 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,360 what I sent to c HMF and Stan heard it 168 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,639 and hired me, that's awesome. And I got brought in 169 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,120 on weekends and he said to me, we do five 170 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,639 hours of funny radio day. Can you just do straight radio? 171 00:07:50,959 --> 00:07:53,600 Oh yeah, So I did for a few minutes. And 172 00:07:54,240 --> 00:08:00,800 that first weekend it was Tommy was the liners were 173 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,839 Monday Morning tom and I kept saying Mule because I 174 00:08:04,879 --> 00:08:07,879 didn't know it was Bleat. No one told me Tommy, 175 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,839 Tommy Muell will be joining the Brother Wee's Morning circus. 176 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,879 So I started the weekend before it was October. 177 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,439 Speaker 1: Got it might have been. 178 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: Almost thirty five years in ninety three, right, yeah, in 179 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:22,680 nineteen ninety three. 180 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,879 Speaker 3: I started ninety four, So we started. Okay, So you 181 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,680 started in ninety ninety four. 182 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't around a lot because I was going 183 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,519 to college during the week. 184 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: I used to see you because I worked for you 185 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:32,919 in promotion. 186 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,919 Speaker 1: Well that's because I graduated in May of ninety four. 187 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: Because I used to go and we's the studio and 188 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:38,360 stay on the couch. 189 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: And then I yes, and then I started hanging out 190 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:43,559 doing promotions after I graduated. 191 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,279 Speaker 3: College was a great time. By the way, that was 192 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:45,840 a lot of fun. 193 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: We had a lot of. 194 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:49,279 Speaker 3: Fun edging them doing that today. Well, we did, and 195 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,559 when we were on promotions. No, right, I. 196 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:52,919 Speaker 1: Have no idea. I don't even remember. 197 00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:56,039 Speaker 2: Right, Well, I didn't get I didn't hang out with 198 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,759 a lot of them. And at the time I was 199 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:04,759 living with a woman and I was engaged, so I 200 00:09:04,799 --> 00:09:06,080 didn't go partying like that. 201 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,399 Speaker 3: There's one of your three engagements, right Uh. 202 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't have three engagements, 203 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:12,799 but damn close. 204 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, might as well, might as well call it that. 205 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: But during that So, how does how do you get 206 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:24,159 from Greece Catholic school, working at Kidney Shoes to being 207 00:09:24,919 --> 00:09:27,440 part of the brother Wee's morning circus? 208 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: Well, how I got marked? The soldier? Name? 209 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:31,039 Speaker 1: Was? Is it? 210 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,759 Speaker 3: When Award Stern first came to town? 211 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:33,519 Speaker 1: I was? 212 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:35,919 Speaker 3: I was always I never liked Stern. I never dn't 213 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,080 know who Stern really was. I know he was. I 214 00:09:38,159 --> 00:09:40,279 used to watch this TV show you know that we 215 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,519 used to be on us be on cable. 216 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. It was like a w R. 217 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,039 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And uh so I would go anywhere that 218 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,440 there was Howard Stern stuff going on, and I would 219 00:09:51,759 --> 00:09:57,279 I would support Weeze and that includes so you would show. 220 00:09:57,159 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: Up at radio. I was gonna say but what the 221 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:02,919 time was the nerve? Right? 222 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: It was the nerve? 223 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you would show up at their events. 224 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: No, it was actually Rocket then it became the nerve. 225 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so right, right, so you would show up at 226 00:10:10,879 --> 00:10:11,600 their events. 227 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeahs And Dino talks about Dino says that he made 228 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,919 Mark the Soldier. So he still says this very day, 229 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,279 I'm I'm the reason there's Marked the Soldier. 230 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: Because he was uh, he he. 231 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: Bored up, he board opped. Yeah, and he did all 232 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,000 the he did all the promotions. 233 00:10:27,159 --> 00:10:28,399 Speaker 1: Okay, so. 234 00:10:29,919 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just so Charlie Fitzsimmons asked me if I 235 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,519 wanted to come and in, how did they find out 236 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,120 about you? I would go see Charlie A fat mos? 237 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: Oh so you would go see Charlie if. 238 00:10:43,159 --> 00:10:45,879 Speaker 3: I was you, I was a groupier. 239 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: This is amazing. So you were a groupie. You would 240 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,000 go just on the on your own. What made you 241 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,799 want to go and fuck with an? 242 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: I just I just I don't know, because I hated 243 00:10:58,639 --> 00:10:59,759 Howard Stern so much. 244 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: Did you see things that he was saying? 245 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: I just didn't like what he said? You know, We's 246 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,600 is an institution in Rochester, sure and. 247 00:11:07,879 --> 00:11:10,759 Speaker 1: You was was Yeah, exactly they were. 248 00:11:11,039 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 3: And you bring all of a sudden, you bring the 249 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,639 big name in the town. Yeah, and he destroys everybody. 250 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: Yes. 251 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,759 Speaker 3: And I didn't want Wes to go down from Howards Stern. 252 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,480 I wanted him to stay and that was Those were 253 00:11:21,519 --> 00:11:23,600 probably his best ratings were during Howards. 254 00:11:24,039 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: So you just out of the this is just out 255 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,600 of you. There was none of your friends were part 256 00:11:29,639 --> 00:11:29,840 of this. 257 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 3: All my friends would go with me because I thought 258 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,960 it was funny, but they weren't part of it. No, 259 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,480 this is me, This is completely. 260 00:11:36,039 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: You, your own idea. 261 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,879 Speaker 2: Yes, and so you would go and what would happen 262 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,000 at Like, I'm curious what would happen? 263 00:11:44,039 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: Because I have a story for you. 264 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: Do you remember when they used to bring the second 265 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,799 rate people from Stern show in the town. 266 00:11:51,039 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: No, I because I was so wrapped up in college 267 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,440 and planning a wedding and uh uh, I don't know, 268 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,559 trying to get my career going that I never I 269 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,000 just focused on that. I was sort of unaware that 270 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:10,720 like Jackie the joke man, Martinling came in or Stuttering 271 00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:12,080 John or whatever. 272 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: I got banned from from where they were because I went, well, 273 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:20,120 I went, I forgot where it was. Was it a 274 00:12:20,159 --> 00:12:21,480 fast remember Fans Daddies? 275 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: Yes, and Village Kate was in the back of the 276 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:25,759 village gate. 277 00:12:25,799 --> 00:12:27,159 Speaker 3: I think I went to I think it was Fast 278 00:12:27,279 --> 00:12:30,039 Eddies and they had like it wasn't I can't remember 279 00:12:30,039 --> 00:12:32,200 the name of their names. Who they even wore anymore. 280 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:35,639 And I went in with a wee shirt and I 281 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,320 was just being obnoxious and I was I was told 282 00:12:38,799 --> 00:12:40,799 by one of the characters from the show to leave. 283 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,320 I was under the Wii's umbrella. Yes, I mean there's 284 00:12:44,399 --> 00:12:46,720 Derek management and you're rid of me. And he wouldn't 285 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:48,759 let he he wouldn't let let it happen. 286 00:12:48,879 --> 00:12:50,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I. 287 00:12:50,039 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: Was under that umbrella and until everything exploded and they 288 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:54,320 put me down to. 289 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: P X Y Okay, what what and what when? What 290 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,279 do you mean? When everything exploded? The whole city. 291 00:13:02,039 --> 00:13:05,519 Speaker 3: Harassment, They laid off a bunch of people. I made 292 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,000 the cut because I was working in promotions, okay, CMF 293 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:10,440 and then I went over to p X Y. 294 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,879 Speaker 1: Okay, so all right? And then yeah, because I had 295 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:14,320 I had. 296 00:13:14,279 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: Worst job ever. I hated that fucking season. 297 00:13:19,639 --> 00:13:24,039 Speaker 2: But all this just out of being a huge supporter 298 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,399 and fan of the Wii show. 299 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:26,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 300 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because. 301 00:13:29,519 --> 00:13:32,639 Speaker 3: I was not a trained radio guy. No, everything I learned. 302 00:13:32,759 --> 00:13:36,159 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's the better thing, because what we 303 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,799 radio was like this polished thing, right, and yet I 304 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,240 have a certain voice and a certain thing, and and 305 00:13:42,279 --> 00:13:45,080 we sort of went against that grain. And that's what 306 00:13:45,279 --> 00:13:48,879 made him such a unique guy here. But what I 307 00:13:48,919 --> 00:13:52,799 also think is that, and especially now, you hear the 308 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:56,919 word tossed around a lot, authenticity, and all authenticity is 309 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,840 are you comfortable truly being who you are? Like you 310 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:04,360 are who you are, and you bring that out, all 311 00:14:04,399 --> 00:14:08,720 your quirks and everything. You were truly authentic mark, like 312 00:14:08,799 --> 00:14:11,759 you were just you. You didn't try to pretend to 313 00:14:11,759 --> 00:14:15,039 be somebody else. You weren't this Remember, like I've talked 314 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:17,159 about this, one of the things that attracted me to 315 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,759 the radio was I could be a cooler person behind 316 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:23,559 a mic where no one could see me than I 317 00:14:23,799 --> 00:14:24,679 was in real life. 318 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: And it took me years to kind of get. 319 00:14:27,799 --> 00:14:30,559 Speaker 2: To the authenticity I needed to go through all that shit, 320 00:14:30,879 --> 00:14:34,360 but I had, you know, I always thought I always 321 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,080 struggled with just the fact not that I ever was, 322 00:14:38,159 --> 00:14:41,000 but that I was gay because I had been molested 323 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,960 and the things I did made me in my head. 324 00:14:44,279 --> 00:14:48,120 So for me, hiding and being somebody else was the. 325 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:50,679 Speaker 3: Great one's the great escape. Yeah, but for you. 326 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:54,039 Speaker 2: Being part of I think that that, I mean, that authenticity, 327 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,840 that whole thing, and I always bring it up. But 328 00:14:55,919 --> 00:14:58,320 like the you know, the one contest that you had 329 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,480 when I will never forget it. It was one of 330 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,399 the funniest and it was so funny because it was 331 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,759 so real. It was just a real moment. It was 332 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,519 like that didn't have to happen on the radio. That 333 00:15:08,559 --> 00:15:10,799 could have happened at a keg party at a college, 334 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,360 That could have happened at a cocktail party at somebody's house, 335 00:15:13,559 --> 00:15:15,240 that could have happened at a lunch. 336 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? That was the beauty 337 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:17,840 of it to me. 338 00:15:18,679 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: And I think that that authenticity that you brought, that realness, 339 00:15:22,279 --> 00:15:25,159 that that that you just were this guy and you 340 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,039 loved we'ze for whatever reason, you know, not knowing him, 341 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,080 and that was a fan. The The part that I 342 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,080 just want to point out is, you know, I know 343 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,759 Howard has has changed a lot, and I know that I. 344 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:42,559 Speaker 1: Read things online like he's woke and whatever. 345 00:15:43,919 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could care less, but what I will say, 346 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:53,600 is Howard built something and was super protective of it, right, 347 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,759 super protective, like he didn't want anybody in that bubble. 348 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:00,960 He knew what he had, and he knew that there 349 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,840 were other people out there that were doing it, and 350 00:16:03,879 --> 00:16:06,080 he also probably was aware that there were other people 351 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,120 out there that may be able to do it better, 352 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,519 like be edgier, because they were younger. 353 00:16:10,559 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: He acted like he invented morning show radio. Yeah, he 354 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,120 kind of didn't, and he didn't was before Weiz. There 355 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,799 was there was oh, there was Imus and there were guys. Yeah, 356 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,440 there was a guy, doctor John Partner on the old 357 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,799 uh ninety two five. Yeah, I think it was MGQ 358 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,840 maybe or I don't know what it was. And he 359 00:16:29,879 --> 00:16:31,919 did a morning show and that was a couple of 360 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,360 years before Weiz. 361 00:16:33,879 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: So there was always right, that's true. 362 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: So Howard did kind of talk about he he sort 363 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,840 of paved it to be a little dirtier, a little edgier, 364 00:16:42,919 --> 00:16:45,919 a little more raw, right, Right. He did a lot 365 00:16:45,919 --> 00:16:48,840 of weird games like he I mean, there were women 366 00:16:48,919 --> 00:16:51,960 farting in microphones, right, you know, it was shit like 367 00:16:52,039 --> 00:16:54,519 you just never heard on the radio because it was 368 00:16:54,559 --> 00:16:56,919 this sort of polished thing and here comes Howard. 369 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: Not the biggest, not the smoothest voice, not the you 370 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:00,639 know some. 371 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: In that sense of wheeze, But Howard to me, when 372 00:17:03,879 --> 00:17:06,720 I look back now as I go, the Howard you're 373 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:08,160 seeing now is. 374 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,559 Speaker 1: The Howard that always was. 375 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: People thought he was this rock and roll rebel guy, 376 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,680 but to me, he was a radio businessman. He was 377 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,440 and he knew the character he needed to play. I'm 378 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,759 not saying it wasn't somewhat authentic. I think it was 379 00:17:20,799 --> 00:17:21,519 a real No. 380 00:17:21,559 --> 00:17:23,799 Speaker 3: He was a character because he was. He was a geek. 381 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,519 You know how he know who you know why he 382 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:29,720 grew his hair out De Schneider from Twist's sister. He 383 00:17:30,079 --> 00:17:33,720 based his his look on his hair on d Schneider. 384 00:17:34,039 --> 00:17:36,160 They were buds and that's why he grew his hair 385 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:36,880 out like he did. 386 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, the thing was and everybody does this, right, 387 00:17:40,839 --> 00:17:44,319 but I always think like I think it was taking 388 00:17:45,079 --> 00:17:48,319 pockets of his personality and accentuating that because on the 389 00:17:48,319 --> 00:17:50,640 other side, he was a family man. He had three 390 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,319 daughters that he protected very much from the spotlight. He 391 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,759 had very involved with his parents. He brought a lot 392 00:17:58,799 --> 00:18:00,839 of that. He never talked about his daughters on the air, 393 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,000 but he talked about his wife, so there were certain 394 00:18:03,039 --> 00:18:06,039 things he wouldn't talk about. And he was more of 395 00:18:06,079 --> 00:18:09,400 a brilliant business guy. He went to bed at eight 396 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,640 o'clock every night to make sure he had eight hours 397 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,960 of sleep. So if you had dinners, I remember an 398 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,559 old boss, even when he wound up at serious going 399 00:18:17,559 --> 00:18:19,599 down and being part of his show, and he's like, Hey, 400 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:21,119 if you're gonna have dinner with Howard, you gotta go 401 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,960 to dinner at like four thirty or five. 402 00:18:23,839 --> 00:18:25,839 Speaker 3: I mean, but that was so he'd go in and 403 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,039 so he'd go in prep because he had writers. 404 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, he would show up at like five. But 405 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:31,960 remember Wes. 406 00:18:31,759 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 3: Would show up ten minutes before the show, just st 407 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,799 That's but that's what meet him the best. 408 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: Yes, it's just two different styles, right. And look, Howard 409 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,279 was in the biggest radio market you could be in. 410 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,519 He wound up being syndicated. I'm not taking anything away, 411 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,759 but he went after people. And here's what I will 412 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:56,480 tell you is when Opie and Anthony got fired in 413 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:01,759 Worcester outside of Boston, and they had hired by the 414 00:19:01,799 --> 00:19:05,559 same company that fired them in New York City, they 415 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,000 wanted their original deal was to be on what it 416 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:11,200 was called K Rock in New York Howard in the 417 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,559 morning and then in the afternoon, and Howard went to 418 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,960 Melcarmzan and said, absolutely fucking no. So they own this 419 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,720 orient album oriented rock station. And I only knew it 420 00:19:21,799 --> 00:19:24,759 because it was very similar to the station I worked at. 421 00:19:24,839 --> 00:19:28,680 And all the guys that were running WPDH and Poughkeepsie 422 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:33,640 were like disciples of WNEW in New York and like 423 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,279 they loved the guys that worked there. And there was 424 00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:39,519 some guy who came in. It was the only time 425 00:19:39,559 --> 00:19:43,359 I ever saw the sixty four pack Crayola Marlboroughs, like 426 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,640 it was a two tier box of Marboroughs. And this 427 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:46,920 guy would call himself. 428 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,559 Speaker 1: The brick because he smoked bricks of hash. 429 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: And he was trying to get back on any w 430 00:19:51,519 --> 00:19:53,319 so he was putting a tape together and he would 431 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:54,160 come up on weekends. 432 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: He was such a fucking douche. 433 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 2: And they wound up putting Opie and Anthony on this 434 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,559 album oriented rock station in the afternoon, and they used 435 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:08,759 to start playing music, and then I think I thought 436 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:12,160 for a while Opie was taking like batting practice with 437 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,200 a whiffle bat, and the CDs and the studio and 438 00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:16,559 smashing them and saying how this station. 439 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,839 Speaker 1: Sucks and blah blah blah. 440 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,079 Speaker 2: But they were only there because Howard wouldn't let him 441 00:20:21,079 --> 00:20:22,640 on ninety two on k Rock. 442 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: Then they went to. 443 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: Howard had the Son of a Beach show at the 444 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,759 time on FX or Fox, I think it was Fox. 445 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,319 He was producing it, and there was a press conference 446 00:20:35,319 --> 00:20:38,519 for it, and Opie and Anthony show up and somebody 447 00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:40,480 comes back to them and it's being. 448 00:20:40,319 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: Delayed and being delayed and being delayed. Nobody, everybody, nobody 449 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,559 knows why. And somebody comes back to them and goes, 450 00:20:46,599 --> 00:20:47,319 you guys have to leave. 451 00:20:47,319 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: Howard's not going to come out until you leave, because 452 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,640 he thinks you're going to do what he would do, 453 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,880 what press conferences with his people. 454 00:20:53,599 --> 00:20:55,559 Speaker 1: So he was super protective of that. 455 00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: And I think there was a time when one of 456 00:20:57,759 --> 00:21:00,839 his daughters had a medical issue wound up the hospital, 457 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,240 and I think it was some kind of drug related issue, 458 00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:06,799 and at one of the cops calls into Opie and Anthony, Hey, 459 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:09,200 Howard just came in and he's crying blah blah blah. 460 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,440 Because they had police down there to sort of protect Howard, 461 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:16,559 and this guy's calling any w and now pulled the 462 00:21:16,559 --> 00:21:20,279 plug and they went to best of Oh yeah, yep. 463 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,680 So Howard was super protected. Like all the shit that 464 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,880 he did to everybody else, he would not. 465 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: He had like an arm he was insulated from all. 466 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,559 Tell me about like the personal life. 467 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: How how is all this because now you're working for 468 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,000 free and you're doing all this stuff. 469 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: What does that? 470 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,039 Speaker 2: How does that play out for you? Like in your 471 00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:46,000 personal life, you're almost like your social life becomes the radio. 472 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,279 Speaker 3: It was my social life. I mean what twenty something 473 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,200 year old didn't want to do that for six years, 474 00:21:50,519 --> 00:21:52,839 all the concerts I went to, all the people I've met, 475 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,240 stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, and it was the 476 00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:58,079 nineties one of the best decades ever. People disagree, but 477 00:21:58,559 --> 00:21:59,720 that was a great decade. 478 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: Yes, it was. 479 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,039 Speaker 2: Tell me about like, because I know that there's uh 480 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,680 you have dealt with mental health things. So when when 481 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,359 did all that come about? Was it around that time? 482 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,279 Speaker 3: It's always been there, It's always always been there, had 483 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,000 it's had to be, I mean all of a sudden, 484 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:19,480 it just didn't pop up one day. I think it 485 00:22:19,559 --> 00:22:25,799 was always there. Yeah, So when I uh, when it 486 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:31,039 was caught was after my my sleeve surgery, my weight 487 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,640 loss surgery. My that's when I went. I went totally manic. 488 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,599 I lost one hundred pounds in like two months, which 489 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,200 is it is not a healthy thing. 490 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: So what so what are you diagnosed with? 491 00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 3: I am bipolar one or two? I believe one one? 492 00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because bipolar one is you have to have 493 00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:56,200 at least one manic episode in your lifetime, but it's 494 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,640 got to last at least a week, right, a week 495 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,079 duration and it's yousually like you know, irritable mood. That 496 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,240 kind of thing I was. 497 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,759 Speaker 3: I was mine was happiness and increased energy drinking because 498 00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:11,960 all of a sudden, I have all this weight off 499 00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:16,240 me and I had all this energy and you know, 500 00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:19,839 and I would did you have like risky behavior? You 501 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,000 should have seen my car. My car had every dent 502 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:26,200 and excite smash into things all the time. I shouldn't laugh, no, 503 00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:28,359 but it is, it is what it is, you know 504 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:28,880 what I mean? 505 00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, because two bipolar two is more of a depressed 506 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,119 mood most of the day. 507 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: Uh, it lasts to lasted two weeks, but like it's the. 508 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 3: I mean, there's been a depression too. I mean, so you. 509 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: Get this diagnosis did you see an improvement in your life? 510 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,440 On what happens when you get it? Let's start there. 511 00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:52,759 Speaker 3: The medicine. 512 00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what would they who diagnoses you do? 513 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:55,640 You know? 514 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,839 Speaker 3: I think my physician, my my physician did okay doctor. 515 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, usually it's okay. And they sent you to somebody 516 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,240 I had to go to. Yeah, I had to go 517 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:06,720 to Uh. 518 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: I went. I had the father son in the Holy Ghost. 519 00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:12,880 It was my doctor, it was it was the shrink, 520 00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:15,720 and it was the counselor. I never saw the shrink. 521 00:24:15,759 --> 00:24:18,039 He was the one that I just gave me the 522 00:24:18,079 --> 00:24:20,279 mad right, Yeah. The counselor was the one that. 523 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,559 Speaker 1: The councilors is the one that'll work with you and 524 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:25,079 I talk to you. Did you do therapy? 525 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, not really, I mean a little bit. 526 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 527 00:24:31,519 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 3: I didn't believe in any of that shit at the time, right, 528 00:24:34,319 --> 00:24:37,160 So I went to the counselor and he pretty much 529 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,200 guided me. And I was working at a time Warner 530 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,039 at the time, okay, and that was that was just 531 00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:47,000 too much of a job for me, I think, being 532 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,759 in the condition I was in. No, you worked in 533 00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:52,440 the master control room. I mean I was there for 534 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,480 twenty four hours when nine to eleven happened. That'll fuck 535 00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:58,400 anybody's mind up, you know. Oh yeah, she. 536 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,799 Speaker 2: Was there for twenty nine to eleven happens you're at 537 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,359 at the time. It's the time working. 538 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 3: It was our it was our news the time, or 539 00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:07,160 yn what it was. Yeah, we stayed there a long time. 540 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,519 We didn't go home. We stayed there a long time 541 00:25:09,519 --> 00:25:13,880 because we were went. Our news went would be on 542 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,440 tape from midnight to six a m. We stayed on 543 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,319 live for the whole time. 544 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,799 Speaker 1: Really, yeah, yeah, that's a lot. 545 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: And I made bad decisions and stuff like that. When 546 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,519 you make bad decisions, it's like you. 547 00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:28,799 Speaker 1: Give me, give me a bad decision that you made. 548 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,599 I certainly made. 549 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: I mean, look, you're talking to somebody, Jesus, don't make 550 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,279 a bad, bad decision. 551 00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: God. 552 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 3: I was so much drama. I started so much shit 553 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,200 with people. I was just not a very I was 554 00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:45,240 not a very good person. I wasn't I was just 555 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,559 like I had been everybody's business, and you know, I 556 00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:52,960 put people up against each other and stuff I did. Yeah, 557 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,480 something I hate now, something I have no power of no. 558 00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: I agree. 559 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you always like soap operas and so it's 560 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,480 almost like you brought that. 561 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,559 Speaker 3: To your life. Yeah sort of, Yeah, I did, And 562 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:07,920 you know, I mean, I guess, you know, I don't know. 563 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,960 I just when I was a time where I just 564 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,240 don't think I was a very good person. 565 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,039 Speaker 2: That was time warning. Yeah yeah, and then, uh, how's 566 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,039 the meds worked for you? 567 00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:21,799 Speaker 3: They didn't really start working probably until I left Time. 568 00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:24,160 I couldn't wait to leave Time Warner and I wouldn't 569 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,119 leave because I knew eventually they were going to lay 570 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,319 us off. Yeah, and then you know, and it took. 571 00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:31,640 It took like I was there eighteen years. 572 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: Eighteen years. 573 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 3: I was there eighteen years. I didn't know you were yeah, 574 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,839 two thousand. Yeah. I got hired in ninety nine, okay, 575 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,039 and it was my first time making actually real money. 576 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: Yep. 577 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 3: So I went from the radio where I mean, not 578 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:47,119 are there any money, to this place where I was 579 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,839 making where I was actually making money. 580 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: I can't see, like I go, there's a little bit 581 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,279 of nuttiness in you and the fact that you would 582 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,400 stay when there was no money. And that's a hard 583 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,640 thing because it's a it's a place measure and pain 584 00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:01,200 type thing. 585 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,039 Speaker 3: I was under the wism bro. I would have never 586 00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:06,519 have gotten that job if I was just some you know, 587 00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:08,880 if I was just some joe off the street. I 588 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,599 was hired because I was part of Weezy's show. I 589 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,400 worked over at CBS Radio for for six years, so 590 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,160 that's why that's why they hired me. I would have 591 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,200 never gotten that job other than that I was a 592 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,720 job at time owner. 593 00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:21,559 Speaker 1: Oh, you wouldn't have. 594 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 3: No, I was not qualified for that job at all. 595 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:30,319 Speaker 2: And so that was you had to have a degree 596 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:36,799 to have that job. Where did you graduate from the 597 00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:40,559 Institute of Wis the Institute of Wise, School of Hard Knocks? 598 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:44,599 Speaker 3: Okay, well, so I went and did a job which 599 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,200 was which was way way way above above what you 600 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,359 know where I should have been. 601 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: So and during that time, you become friends with some 602 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,839 of the reporters, right, yeah, some Yeah, a lot of 603 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,720 some drama there. 604 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,599 Speaker 3: Well that drama, that's det drama, Last Delaware, the Bathtub Billies. 605 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: So what makes you leave time Warner? 606 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 3: I get it, I get it, we get the Spectrum 607 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,119 comes in, Yeah, and they get rid of our our department, 608 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,640 and I'm like, and I like, fucking finally I get 609 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,279 three So I may eighteen years. I get three weeks 610 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,200 pay for every year you. 611 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,599 Speaker 1: Get three weeks paid for every year. 612 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so eighteen times whatever, eighteen times three is 613 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,119 I can't right now? 614 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: So I mean you're you've got twenty four you got 615 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,240 sixty four weeks? 616 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: Yes? 617 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: Is that right? 618 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 619 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: Fifty four weeks, fifty four weeks? 620 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, eighteen yeah, yeah, So are you checking it? 621 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,079 Speaker 2: Well, it's eight yeah, it's just eighteen times three. Right, 622 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,319 I'm pretty I'll check it right now because that fifty 623 00:28:53,319 --> 00:29:00,799 four weeks, So fifty four weeks, which is roughly well, 624 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,319 it's like a year and a half. Yeah, a little 625 00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:04,799 over a year, not a year and a half, about 626 00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:05,720 thirteen and a half months. 627 00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: So I leave and this is and this is in May, 628 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,279 I think it was, and all of a sudden, summer 629 00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:14,319 starting and I I got one hundred thousand my four 630 00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:17,759 oh one. K. I'm like, I'm not going to work 631 00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:20,240 in the summer. Didn't work. The summer, I traveled. I 632 00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:23,319 went to Nashville the first time. This is when I 633 00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:26,599 met Matt went. I went and we all we went 634 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,160 to Cantcon. It was my first time getting a passport 635 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,440 and going out of the country that wasn't Canada. So 636 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:35,960 we went there and then I we went to can coon. 637 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,200 I flew from from cant Coon to home and got 638 00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:44,799 on a plane and went to Nashville, and then I 639 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:48,119 had applications out everywhere, and you know, I was interviewing 640 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,279 like ten eight stuff like that, and I didn't want 641 00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:54,839 to go. I hated that fucking job. I hate everything 642 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,319 about it. I hated it. 643 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,839 Speaker 1: So then that to billy thing comes up. 644 00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: That comes up for me, it comes up an opportunity. 645 00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: So let me just pause here for just a moment. 646 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:12,759 You seem to have a personality that you don't really care. 647 00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:16,000 You're just gonna do whatever feels right to you, right, 648 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,400 but a little manic. 649 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:21,559 Speaker 3: Oh sure, that was a total Manning decision. That was 650 00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:22,519 a total Manning decision. 651 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:25,799 Speaker 1: So all this stuff at the time, are you on? Man? 652 00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:30,359 Speaker 3: I'm medicated, but I don't think it was I was medicated, right, Okay. 653 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,599 I think it took a blonde time to be medicated, right, Okay. 654 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,519 Speaker 2: So you're still having do you think you had bipolar episodes? 655 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,920 Because we hear the term bipolar and it's thrown out 656 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,799 there a lot, and I don't think people really know 657 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,400 what it is. When someone's truly bipolar, it's a rough 658 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,400 thing for them, and there can be manic states that 659 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,440 go on like you have. You know, it's grandiosity some people, 660 00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:57,000 and it's not always negative, and sometimes it's a happy person. 661 00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:00,599 But you know, and they're buying you things and they're everywhere, 662 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,920 and you know, you. 663 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: Know, I went from I'm out of a bad situation, 664 00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:06,680 a time warner, Yeah, going where I can own a 665 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,000 bar that I that I went to my whole life. 666 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,400 So I'm like, yeah, So I was going to be 667 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,160 a silent partner. I was gonna go work a Channel 668 00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:17,400 ten and I didn't and I decided not to, so 669 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,559 I ended up so I became an employee. I was 670 00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:24,400 a silent partner, but I worked there so I couldn't bartend, 671 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,599 I couldn't cook. I was useless. People get mad when 672 00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:31,359 I say this, but I'm truthful. How it worked. I 673 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,400 got a three pack of cords, a light, and I 674 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,079 drew in the Nashville. I didn't know where I was 675 00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:35,440 going to go. 676 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: You were all night long, all night long, just drove. 677 00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: That's a manic, that's oh, absolutely, Oh I was maned 678 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,599 during that time. Yeah, and went there. 679 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: Nobody sent the cops looking for you. 680 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:47,759 Speaker 2: No. 681 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,039 Speaker 3: I told my mom I was going. 682 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: You told your Mom, you were going to Nashville. 683 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I packed. 684 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: You didn't know where you were staying. You didn't know it. 685 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: I know where I was staying. 686 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,279 Speaker 1: Okay. 687 00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 3: I had a friend out there that she lived, she 688 00:31:57,519 --> 00:31:59,240 was from here, and I worked with her. 689 00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:00,519 Speaker 1: How many hours? Twelve? 690 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, twelve thirteen straight through. Yeah. Stopped a couple of 691 00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:06,160 times to take, you know, take a pee. I was 692 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,319 hungover in Kentucky. 693 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,119 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, not tired. 694 00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 3: No. I got there and I went to her house 695 00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:18,559 and it was this thing called the CMA Fest, last 696 00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:20,480 day of it. And I went to the stadium and 697 00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:23,079 that's where I saw Brad Paisley, Keith, Urban Eric Church. 698 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,279 So I went there and the minute I got there, 699 00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:27,559 there was something cool going on. Sure, the minute I 700 00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:30,680 went on Broadway, fucking most amazing thing I've ever seen 701 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,920 in my life. This is back when it was Broadway. 702 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,960 Now it's just a tour. Now it's just yeah, corporate. 703 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,319 So I decided I was gonna move there. I had 704 00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:44,240 a place to live. I sent all my stuff out 705 00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:46,839 there in a storage and I was getting ready to go. 706 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,920 I was gonna leave April first. COVID had no jobs. 707 00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:55,319 Nashville got hit hard. They they got hit hard with 708 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,759 they had a terrorist attack, remember that, I do when 709 00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:01,759 the when the. 710 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:04,359 Speaker 1: Car blew up. 711 00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 3: And so they were going through a lot of things 712 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,319 and there was nothing there. So I stayed here, stayed here, 713 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:09,839 stayed here. 714 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:16,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, I I never my mother Okay, she guilted you? 715 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 3: Oh fuck? 716 00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 717 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah? 718 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,519 Speaker 1: What was her reasoning? Because I took care of her okay, 719 00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:23,720 and she needed you. 720 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's your mom and that's my mom. But she 721 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,799 told me if I came back, she promised she'd let 722 00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:31,319 me go back. That didn't work out, okay. 723 00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:36,079 Speaker 1: But then you send your stuff to when was this 724 00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:38,079 the time you sent stuff down like you when? 725 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 3: After? I? After I sold my share of bed to billies, Okay, 726 00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:44,119 I sent all my stuff down into a storage unit. 727 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, again, with no place to no plan. 728 00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:49,279 Speaker 3: I knew where I was. Yeah, I did have a plan. 729 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,599 I knew where I was living. I knew the jobs 730 00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:54,319 out there were is easy to get a job. 731 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,039 Speaker 1: So what was the reason for not going COVID? Oh covid? Okay? 732 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,160 And did you ever forget your stuff back for storage? 733 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,839 Speaker 3: It's still there. 734 00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: You better start watching storage. 735 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 3: What's what's the difference if I if I bring it 736 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,440 here and putting storage or if it's there. 737 00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get it, But but you're not still 738 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,440 paying on it. 739 00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I still pay for it, you do. Yeah, I 740 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,960 mean I can bring it back here and put it 741 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,519 in storage, but I'm not going to use any of 742 00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:20,800 the stuff, so just keep it there. I went and 743 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,239 visited my stuff the three you know, I went back 744 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,719 three four different times. I'd go to the storage and 745 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,000 see if there's anything I wanted. 746 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:33,559 Speaker 2: So yeah, and and that sort of brings us up 747 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:36,039 to the present day with stuff. 748 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,199 Speaker 3: Well, then I started working in a liquor store. 749 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,519 Speaker 1: Yes, right. 750 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 3: My buddy owned the liquor store. He owned the Red 751 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,599 Front which was which was a legendary diner and the 752 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,480 Rochester Staple down in the Clinton Avenue area. And then 753 00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:56,199 I started working the liquor store for him. And I'd 754 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,880 work and I liked it. You know, it was different. 755 00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:03,000 There was always action all the time. And then I 756 00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:05,519 was roight. Now, then I started. I was in the morning. 757 00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: I'd work. 758 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 3: My brother was working at uh had a job. I 759 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,639 don't want to say where it was he was doing. 760 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,280 You know, he had a job which is associated with 761 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,280 my job now. And I started working there in the 762 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,440 morning and i'd go work at uh, it's a liquor store. Well, 763 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,440 after I got robbed, I went full time, okay, And 764 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,760 that's what takes me to where I'm at now. I 765 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,519 went and I went and lived with a friend of mine. 766 00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:34,559 Her and her husband took me in for three months 767 00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:36,000 until I got where I'm at now. 768 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: Fantastic, right, And that's where you grew home. 769 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,119 Speaker 3: That's where it all started, where I got the shipped together. Yeah, 770 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,159 that's what That's how it all was. I think it 771 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,119 was that all of a sudden, I didn't have my 772 00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:49,599 mother to rely on me and stuff. 773 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: The protector's gone. 774 00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:53,679 Speaker 3: Right, that's gone. I have to do things my own way, 775 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,599 you know, at age, you know, forty something I had. 776 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,960 I had to be an adult and take care of myself. 777 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, different, different. 778 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,159 Speaker 2: I think this has been a fascinating conversation, I really do. 779 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,239 I hope that everybody has enjoyed it as much as 780 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,599 I did. It was a fast hour. We talked for 781 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,679 over an hour. Over an hour we did. Yeah, and 782 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,920 I think that that it. 783 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: Was great And I appreciate you coming in. 784 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 3: And it's funny because I have a resume, my resume, 785 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,719 people think it's fake. What do you mean If you 786 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,320 ever see my resume, everything we've talked about is not. 787 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,360 You know, everywhere I worked is on my resume. I 788 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,920 worked up Pontilo since nineteen eighty seven. I went in 789 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,360 the radio, I was there. I went to Time Warner 790 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,440 for eighteen years. I owned you know, I owned at 791 00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:42,719 the Billies. I worked at a liquor store. You know. 792 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,719 I do what I do now, and it's like, you know, 793 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,639 and everybody looks at it. And someone told me, they go, 794 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,039 you couldn't have done all this, and I go, I go. 795 00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:55,920 Everything on it is the truth. It's what I've done. 796 00:36:56,679 --> 00:37:02,320 I created myself three or four different times. I recreate, Yeah, 797 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,800 recreate myself. And this right now is the best version. 798 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 799 00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely feel good. I feel great. I stay I don't 800 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,199 I don't go out, and I hardly drink anymore. I 801 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,039 stay out of people's business. Even at the job I'm 802 00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:22,480 at now. I have friends there, But I'm not trying 803 00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:25,320 to be mister oh. You know, I want to you know, 804 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,599 I want everybody to like me. I don't give a 805 00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:30,840 ship anymore. So you know, I do what I do. 806 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,119 I go do my job, I do it well. So 807 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,519 this is the best. You know, this is where I 808 00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:37,480 want to you know, I want to be. I don't 809 00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:38,400 ever see it slipping. 810 00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 2: I think it's fantastic. Congratulations on all of it because 811 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,079 it's it's been great. I have loved this conversation. 812 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,639 Speaker 1: I really have. It's been fantastic. 813 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 3: I gotta piss all right, I'm just kidding you. 814 00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 1: No, I gotta go. 815 00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 3: Friggering all this coffee and stuff like that. I forgot 816 00:37:56,039 --> 00:37:57,039 we were even on the mic. 817 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you know, Yeah, it was a great conversation. 818 00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:03,039 Ye's that's what I love. These are some of my. 819 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 2: Favorites when we could do one on one for for 820 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,880 the soldier who I'm Bill Moran. 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