1
00:00:03,879 --> 00:00:08,320
Speaker 1: All right, folks, welcome in. It is a Saturday night,

2
00:00:08,599 --> 00:00:12,759
November the twenty second here after the Ring four night

3
00:00:12,839 --> 00:00:16,960
of champions Card and Riadd Saudi Arabia has concluded, and

4
00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,640
we're here to recap it. Glad that you were with

5
00:00:19,719 --> 00:00:23,440
us as we're doing the show first exclusively here live

6
00:00:23,519 --> 00:00:25,879
on YouTube. Now we should say I am merely the

7
00:00:25,879 --> 00:00:28,960
somewhat capable host TJ Reeves here on YouTube, our insider

8
00:00:29,039 --> 00:00:30,800
Dan Rayfield. This year, we got a lot of action

9
00:00:30,879 --> 00:00:34,479
to go over. I should say. Also, the podcast audience

10
00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,920
is hearing us after the fact Sunday night into Monday.

11
00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,640
This is the recap on the pod feed. But you

12
00:00:40,799 --> 00:00:43,240
saw this live if you were with us on YouTube

13
00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,840
on this Saturday night, and we appreciate you being with

14
00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,000
us on the Big Fight weekn YouTube page. We're dual purpose,

15
00:00:48,119 --> 00:00:51,399
Dan Rayphield on a Saturday night. How are you? I

16
00:00:51,439 --> 00:00:53,920
have flown all the way to Los Angeles, a longer

17
00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,560
way away from Riodd Saudi Arabia than where you are

18
00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,399
in Northern Virginia. We're both a long way away in

19
00:00:58,439 --> 00:01:01,520
the United States. We saw I'm gonna say this off

20
00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,280
the top, we saw an action pack card with four

21
00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,519
world title fights. The most recent of those is David

22
00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,400
Benavitez having KOed Anthony Yard right before we have started

23
00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:14,640
this show, welcome in. What are your thoughts overall on

24
00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,879
the card before we get to the benavidaz win first?

25
00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,439
Speaker 2: Well, overall, I thought on paper going in, I thought

26
00:01:20,439 --> 00:01:22,400
it was an excellent show. We discussed it at length

27
00:01:22,599 --> 00:01:24,560
on the pre fight and I've written about it. It

28
00:01:24,599 --> 00:01:27,840
was a terrific matchup. In terms of all the title fights,

29
00:01:27,879 --> 00:01:30,799
none of the fights stood out as blatant mismatches or

30
00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:33,840
anything like that. And I thought though in execution it

31
00:01:33,879 --> 00:01:36,560
was a little bit uneven the we're gonna get to

32
00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:38,280
all these fights. But the first fight of the night

33
00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,359
on the main card of Abdullah Mason and Sam Noaks

34
00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:45,120
for the lightweight belt vacant w BO light the whit title.

35
00:01:45,359 --> 00:01:48,680
Awesome fight, tremendous action start to finish, two guys just

36
00:01:48,799 --> 00:01:51,519
all out warriors in that battle. Just a really good

37
00:01:51,519 --> 00:01:54,079
fight will be you know, perhaps a fight of their type.

38
00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,159
Candidate was an excellent fight. The next fight was Bam

39
00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:03,120
Rodriguez in the three belt unification against Fernando Martinez. That

40
00:02:03,239 --> 00:02:06,640
was a brilliant, brilliant performance from Baan Rodriguez in out

41
00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:09,639
to the knockout victory to unify the titles. But it

42
00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,400
was after like one round. This is a complete mismatch,

43
00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,680
you know. It turned out that way, totally dominating. There

44
00:02:17,759 --> 00:02:19,680
was no question he was winning every single round in

45
00:02:19,719 --> 00:02:22,000
the fight. You know, it was like a masterless I mean,

46
00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,000
it was like a man and a boy and then

47
00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,879
you get to the next fight. So that wasn't a

48
00:02:24,879 --> 00:02:26,680
great fight. It was a great performance. I'd make a

49
00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,400
differentiation between the two co feature between Devin Haney and

50
00:02:31,439 --> 00:02:35,439
Brian Norman. Hainey challenging for the WBO welterweight title was

51
00:02:35,479 --> 00:02:39,280
a masterclass type performance from Devin Haney. There were some

52
00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,400
exciting moments at least in the first half, but you know,

53
00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,400
Devon was so far ahead. He obviously felt like that

54
00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,800
was the case, and he became a lot more cautious

55
00:02:48,199 --> 00:02:50,599
and it really was not that good of a fight, frankly,

56
00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:53,280
if you look at the coffee box for example, just

57
00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,439
very little output on both ends, but much worse from

58
00:02:56,439 --> 00:03:00,319
Norman overall than Haini, but still a great reform chrom

59
00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,000
Haney main event kind of the same thing. Benavitius with

60
00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,439
a great performance against that Anthony Yard, who just had

61
00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,319
really nothing for him and it was just a matter

62
00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,039
of time he could just tell after like you know,

63
00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,039
the I don't know, I was thinking after maybe like

64
00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,879
round one or two, Like this season, this is no contest.

65
00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,199
He was gonna gonna get to him, knock it out.

66
00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:23,680
The you know, our friends on his own kept talking

67
00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,719
about how he's starting slowly to build up, and they

68
00:03:26,719 --> 00:03:28,520
also were talking about how he's never really that good

69
00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,120
in the back end of a fight. Well, if you're

70
00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,400
giving away the first half of the fight and you're

71
00:03:32,479 --> 00:03:34,080
usually not that good as the second half of the fight,

72
00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,159
what's your game plan? Like? Yard just looked like he

73
00:03:36,199 --> 00:03:39,080
had no fucking clue what he wanted to do. I'm

74
00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,240
not saying he's a bad fighter, Yeah, just the game

75
00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,400
plan was awful.

76
00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,000
Speaker 1: And he was overwhelmed as the third round became the

77
00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,759
fourth round became the fifth round by the punching power,

78
00:03:48,759 --> 00:03:50,960
et cetera. All right, so there's a good summary of

79
00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,479
all of it. We're gonna go specifically into these here

80
00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:56,159
in the recap mode on this Saturday night. We will

81
00:03:56,199 --> 00:03:58,000
get to some of your comments in a little bit.

82
00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,840
Hang in there. So let's be again with the Benavidas

83
00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,879
knockout again. He hummeled Yard, especially in the last two

84
00:04:06,919 --> 00:04:09,599
or three rounds of the fight. The fight ends in

85
00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:14,159
the seventh round. He was impressive. I'm saying that he

86
00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:19,199
defends the WBC title again the night the main event

87
00:04:19,439 --> 00:04:21,560
belongs to him. As much as you want to say

88
00:04:21,639 --> 00:04:23,759
Yard didn't have a game plan, etc. Bita Vita's really

89
00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:26,399
good tonight. That's my assessment. Another thought or two from.

90
00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,240
Speaker 2: You, Yeah, no, I agree with that. The fact of

91
00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,920
the matter is, on the one hand, you had a

92
00:04:29,959 --> 00:04:32,680
deavid band of Videz who was on his game against

93
00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,199
the Yard that had no game or no nothing to

94
00:04:35,199 --> 00:04:38,319
speak of. And if you want to make comparisons, now,

95
00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,439
Anthony Yard is zero to three in light heavyweight world

96
00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,279
title fights. He got knocked out in the eleventh round

97
00:04:43,319 --> 00:04:46,560
by Sergey Kovalev. He got knocked out a couple of

98
00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,600
years ago also by Arthur Bedderviev. That was a fight

99
00:04:49,639 --> 00:04:51,959
that was in his hometown of London. And now he

100
00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,720
goes to Saudi Arabia. In this fight he gets knocked

101
00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,319
out again. And you know, as they say, always the bridesmaid,

102
00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,240
never the bride. You know, I can't say I'm surprise guys.

103
00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,879
Every time he's ever stepped up, he's been beaten. Because

104
00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,600
the three guys he's ever fought who were legitimate, like

105
00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:09,240
world class level fighters, and the three guys I just

106
00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,439
mentioned are guys that all stopped him. Now. He had

107
00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,439
the great misfortune of when he did get these title opportunities,

108
00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,639
they were against like, really really top level, superstar caliber fighters.

109
00:05:19,199 --> 00:05:21,319
He didn't get to cherry pick against like a softer

110
00:05:21,439 --> 00:05:25,199
touch type of champion. You know, maybe in a different situation,

111
00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,120
if he was fighting another guy that was just, you know,

112
00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,160
a good fighter but just had a belt, maybe he

113
00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,480
would have been able to get over that hump and

114
00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,240
win the title. But when you're coming up against guys

115
00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,240
like better BF Copal eleven, David Denavide's in his prime,

116
00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:38,839
that's a real problem. So he just didn't really have

117
00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,920
much a show. He never really landed a good solid punch.

118
00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,879
I didn't feel like and the main thing was, and

119
00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,560
I haven't looked at the copy box yet, I will

120
00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,720
when we're done here, the number of punches that David

121
00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,240
Denavide's was throwing and landing. He had to out throw

122
00:05:50,319 --> 00:05:52,519
him outland him two to one. At least he threw

123
00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,040
out just a I'll use the word you like TJ.

124
00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,959
A bevy of our right hands and left hooks had

125
00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,040
him back up against what was the what was the

126
00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,959
one moment and he would throw back maybe one and

127
00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,879
there was no chance he was gonna win at that case.

128
00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,079
Speaker 1: What was the one moment where Yard was trying to

129
00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,920
hold his right arm and benevete is literally and I

130
00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,360
think Mike Coppinger on the broadcast said it was fifteen

131
00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:19,519
fourteen or fifteen consecutive left hands. He just wailed on him,

132
00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,199
bang bang bang bang bang and swollen face, bloody nose,

133
00:06:24,399 --> 00:06:28,120
maybe even the right eye like the eye orbital of swelling.

134
00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,839
It was just gonna be a matter of time, and

135
00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:30,319
he pummeled.

136
00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:32,519
Speaker 2: I thought when David finally got him up along the

137
00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,959
ropes there in round number seven, as he was teeing off,

138
00:06:34,959 --> 00:06:37,120
he landed a good left hook. A couple of seconds

139
00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,399
that landed another good left hook. He still hadn't extricated

140
00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:41,279
himself from the ropes. And then when he finally landed

141
00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,120
a third left hook, which really rocked his head back

142
00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,519
and forth. At that point, the referee, Hector Offu, stepped

143
00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:49,720
in and made a very perfect stoppage. In my opinion,

144
00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,680
it was just a matter of time. If he hadn't

145
00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,319
stopped it, then maybe maybe Yard would have lasted a

146
00:06:54,319 --> 00:06:56,000
little bit longer, maybe he would have made it out

147
00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,680
of the round. But that fight was going to be

148
00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,399
a knockout. At that point. It was very obvious Steard

149
00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:02,879
was breaking down. You mentioned his nose was bloody, his

150
00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,439
face was starting to swell up. And David Benavidez hadn't

151
00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,959
taken really any significant punches. He had like a little

152
00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,480
nick I think that he mentioned in his post fight interview.

153
00:07:10,519 --> 00:07:12,680
Maybe Yard caught him in like a nice right hand

154
00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,800
earlier in the fight, but that was like one shot,

155
00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,319
whereas benavidas caught him with him out, you know, probably

156
00:07:17,319 --> 00:07:18,600
twenty good shots.

157
00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,079
Speaker 1: Oh and again, Benavitez said after the fight to uh

158
00:07:23,279 --> 00:07:26,000
his zone in the ring, to Claudia Treo's I thought

159
00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,800
this was a B plus performance. I gave him an A.

160
00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:31,839
I mean, he gets a guy out of there, looked impressive. Again,

161
00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,920
some were remarking on social media, et cetera that Benavita's

162
00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,519
maybe not his cut looked a little you know, maybe

163
00:07:38,519 --> 00:07:40,360
a little flabby in the middle or whatever it does.

164
00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, David David looked at David looked like tonight, though

165
00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:45,959
he's looked every time I've ever seen him.

166
00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by and by the way, the hands were

167
00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,120
quick and the punches were powerful. So who cares right ultimately?

168
00:07:52,399 --> 00:07:55,360
Speaker 2: So I know, can you look a little bit like

169
00:07:55,439 --> 00:07:57,839
Larry Holmes if he wants and Anthony Yark can look

170
00:07:57,879 --> 00:07:59,920
all cut up or you saw what happened?

171
00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,720
Speaker 1: Doesn't make a difference exactly exactly, all right. So that

172
00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:06,399
leads to the next question. While we're in the recap mode,

173
00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,720
what do we think is next? How realistic is it

174
00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:12,519
that he gets an undisputed shot at some point with

175
00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,199
Dmitri b Vole Archer better bev is lurking out there?

176
00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:19,800
What else is realistically out there for Benavitez.

177
00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:21,800
Speaker 2: Well, what he said in the ring is he's going

178
00:08:21,879 --> 00:08:24,560
up the cruiserweight and he's going to challenge the unified

179
00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,720
title holder, Zerto Ramirez on single demio, which will be

180
00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,360
a big fight for the Mexican community and for boxing

181
00:08:30,399 --> 00:08:33,360
in general, and probably in Las Vegas. So now that

182
00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:35,279
came us a little surprise, not to say that it

183
00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,440
wasn't something that I thought could happen, because in the

184
00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,679
prefight he spoke about the prospect of that fight was

185
00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,759
offered to him, he would definitely take the chance and

186
00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:44,320
jump up another weight class to go after it. So

187
00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,879
for him to so cavalierly say in the ring, I'm

188
00:08:46,879 --> 00:08:51,279
fighting Zerdo Ramirez on single demyo, I wasn't quite sure

189
00:08:51,279 --> 00:08:53,879
about that, so I made it in a few minutes

190
00:08:53,919 --> 00:08:56,559
between the time that the show ended and here we

191
00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,679
jump on to discuss everything, and I was all over

192
00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,240
my tech messages that I've texted with people at Golden Boy,

193
00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,240
who you know, are the promoters of Zerdo Ramirez as

194
00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:08,200
well as other people involved with David Benavide's And while

195
00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,879
they basically say that's what we'd like to do, that's

196
00:09:10,879 --> 00:09:13,159
what we're working on, nothing has done yet. By what

197
00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,519
they tell me, there's still a good reasonable chance that

198
00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,039
Zerdo Amir is coming off of a shoulder surgery, might

199
00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,159
have a tune up fight he like, you know, January February.

200
00:09:22,639 --> 00:09:24,559
Not necessarily a big fight, but he certainly could find

201
00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,679
himself on a card in the very early part of

202
00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,039
the year. I don't think you want to be a

203
00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,600
Zerdo coming off of a very long layoff, coming off

204
00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:32,679
of a you know, he hit fought least in June,

205
00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,080
so he'd be coming off of not a huge layoff.

206
00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,639
But if they fought in May, you're time.

207
00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,679
Speaker 1: At eleven almost a year.

208
00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:41,919
Speaker 2: And also the surgery. You don't want to go into

209
00:09:41,919 --> 00:09:45,120
a fight of that caliber not knowing if you're sound physically,

210
00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:47,879
and I think it would behoove him. Frankly, you know,

211
00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,600
I'm not a big lover of female fights, but when

212
00:09:49,639 --> 00:09:51,720
you're coming off in an injury like that, you probably

213
00:09:51,759 --> 00:09:53,919
should take it, as long as you're matched appropriately. So

214
00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,840
the name that they've mentioned as a possibility is the

215
00:09:56,919 --> 00:09:59,960
cruiserweight that recently won a Golden Boy Promotes now Rob

216
00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,759
and so far who is you know, a good fighter,

217
00:10:02,759 --> 00:10:04,759
but I don't think he's certainly not at the same

218
00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,240
level as of Benavides so that that might be something

219
00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,639
to do. But the bottom line is the plans, even

220
00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,600
if not done, is the fact that they're going to

221
00:10:12,639 --> 00:10:15,159
try to make that fight because Bivol nobody knows when

222
00:10:15,159 --> 00:10:20,120
he's back because of the back surgery. Better bv is

223
00:10:19,919 --> 00:10:23,080
is certainly a viable opponent. But if you're if you were,

224
00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,840
if you're Benavidees, why wouldn't you go over that you

225
00:10:25,879 --> 00:10:28,559
have a you have a danger fight with Benavides, you

226
00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:30,799
got a danger fight with Zerto. Why not take Zero,

227
00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,159
which I think will probably pay him more money. Number

228
00:10:33,159 --> 00:10:35,519
one and number two, you get to go back to

229
00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,720
Las Vegas where you've wanted to fight. You're fighting another Mexican,

230
00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,919
you know, David being a Mexican American Zero being a

231
00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:44,440
Mexican national. That makes it even a bigger fight in

232
00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,000
some ways. And it's on the Mexican holiday, so that's

233
00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:50,159
where he wants to take over. I mean, with Canelo

234
00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,320
still viable on those dates, but certainly not fighting in May,

235
00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,639
I don't think this is coming year because of all

236
00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,559
what's going on with him and with Turkey and him

237
00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,240
also coming off of his surgery and whatever. In the future,

238
00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:03,600
David's gonna look to Squad on those dates as the

239
00:11:03,639 --> 00:11:07,679
new face of Mexican slash Mexican American boxing. That's a

240
00:11:07,799 --> 00:11:10,080
that's a tremendous fight him in Zerto Ramirez. I actually

241
00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,600
would I would say, I'm not saying I'd rather see

242
00:11:12,639 --> 00:11:15,080
that than the better BF fight, but I'm down for

243
00:11:15,159 --> 00:11:17,120
that fight. That's a really good matchup. And look, the

244
00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,919
card for him is better better, Better BF doesn't offer

245
00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,759
him to glory. It's a title defense. He fights Zerta.

246
00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,360
He's got a chance to win two belts, that cruiserweight.

247
00:11:25,759 --> 00:11:28,159
Speaker 1: Not another division, right and another division as is now

248
00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,240
also one in line heavyweight, so he could become again division. Yep,

249
00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,519
big night for David Benavitez. And again a lot of

250
00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:37,639
people just joining us here. We will get to some

251
00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,240
of your comments. We're recamping the entire card. We've just

252
00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,120
gone over the main event fight and uh again, David

253
00:11:45,159 --> 00:11:50,279
ben Vida's thet story earning morning in Saudi Arabia. He

254
00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,039
took care of his business. It was not a lackluster

255
00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,279
effort at all by him. He was throwing punches at

256
00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,799
bunches at the beginning of the fight and dominated. All right,

257
00:11:57,879 --> 00:11:59,840
let's move to the co feature. You touched on this,

258
00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:05,279
Devin Haney early knockdown of Brian Norman eventual decision win.

259
00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,639
Comically one judge had the fight six to six with

260
00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:13,639
the knockdown, a barely one fourteen one thirteen win, but

261
00:12:14,039 --> 00:12:15,200
pretty dominant performance.

262
00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:15,679
Speaker 2: All right.

263
00:12:15,759 --> 00:12:17,960
Speaker 1: The first thing I would say to you when Haney

264
00:12:18,039 --> 00:12:20,840
scored the knockdown, Norman appeared to be in trouble. Did

265
00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:25,279
you sense maybe this could be over with quick or

266
00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,960
what did you think on the welterweight title fight there

267
00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,759
as it began with a quick knockdown by Hane.

268
00:12:31,399 --> 00:12:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got the knockdown. It was a clean, hard knockdown.

269
00:12:33,639 --> 00:12:36,039
He scored with a left hook and then came came

270
00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,759
behind it with a very solid right hand, which is

271
00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,759
really what did the most of the damage. Put him

272
00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:43,159
on on the deck. He got up, you know, he

273
00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,799
was shaking a little bit. You know, I think he

274
00:12:44,879 --> 00:12:48,559
had also a no's injury as well. And so while

275
00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,200
I was I was impressed by the knockdown. You know,

276
00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:53,879
Hainey showed, you know, still the quick hands, even having

277
00:12:53,919 --> 00:12:56,960
moved up another weight class. I actually had the feeling

278
00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,240
when that occurred that, you know what, he's hurt, but

279
00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,440
he's gonna get through it and it's not going to

280
00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,240
be the end of the fight. I say that because

281
00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,000
I've seen, like you know, they made their reference on

282
00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,399
the broadcast, which is what I was exactly thinking. To

283
00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,960
remember when he fought at one hundred and forty, when

284
00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,799
he challenged Regius Programming for the WBC title in that

285
00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:15,360
way class, he also scored a knockdown and it looked like,

286
00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:17,200
oh maybe he can get him out of here. And

287
00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,399
you know, he never came close. He won every round

288
00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,240
other than you know, you know, beyond the knockdown r anyone,

289
00:13:22,279 --> 00:13:25,639
every other round in the fight. But I didn't think

290
00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,440
the fight was over at that point, and I thought

291
00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,039
Haney though. Overall, although once again there was very low

292
00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,200
output in terms of the punches from both fighters in

293
00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,480
the entire fight, there was only one round where either

294
00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,600
one of them produced double digit connects. According to Comedy Box,

295
00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,120
that was in round two, when Devin Hainey was credited

296
00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,039
with landing fourteen punches. The rest of the fight, nobody

297
00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,039
landed anything but but Brian Norman for the entire fight,

298
00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,399
never landed more than six punches in a round. You're

299
00:13:51,399 --> 00:13:53,080
just not gonna win like that, you know. At least

300
00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,240
Hani was landing like eight pounds.

301
00:13:54,279 --> 00:13:58,440
Speaker 1: How gun shy? Right? How gun shy do you think

302
00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,000
Norman was? After the yearly knocked down? What?

303
00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:01,639
Speaker 2: How much?

304
00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,200
Speaker 1: How much weight do you put on that?

305
00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,159
Speaker 2: How much would you say? How it was gunshy? Was Norman?

306
00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,200
Speaker 1: Was Norman gun shy in your mind? After round two?

307
00:14:10,279 --> 00:14:11,320
What do you think? I mean?

308
00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,039
Speaker 2: I think he was all hurt. I mean, he obviously

309
00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,080
wasn't looking to get mixed up into a war right there. Uh.

310
00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,440
I think that it was. It impacted it for sure,

311
00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,399
but I think the nose was given the more of

312
00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:21,840
a problem than just having the fact that he got

313
00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,240
knocked down. I've heard lots of fighters talk about, you know,

314
00:14:24,279 --> 00:14:26,639
they get dropped, they're not so hurt. They're more embarrassed

315
00:14:26,679 --> 00:14:28,240
than hurt, to tell you the truth, and so I

316
00:14:28,279 --> 00:14:31,200
didn't think that was like a devastating knockdown. Uh, but

317
00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,519
it gives you the extra point, and he's already won

318
00:14:33,559 --> 00:14:35,919
at that point, he probably uh uh is feeling good

319
00:14:35,919 --> 00:14:37,840
about himself. I gave Brian Norman the first round of

320
00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,519
the fight, but then I thought that Ainy pretty much

321
00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:41,799
dominated the rest of the fight. When it was all

322
00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,799
said and done, I don't think there's any question you

323
00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:45,440
know who the actual winner of the fight was. That

324
00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,679
was to me, it was like, yes, kind of think

325
00:14:47,679 --> 00:14:49,759
I had Devin Hainey winning one eighteen to one oh nine.

326
00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,559
If you wanted, I could have. There was maybe one

327
00:14:51,639 --> 00:14:53,919
or two other rounds I considered giving Norman, so maybe

328
00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,120
have it like the two judges that that were the

329
00:14:56,879 --> 00:14:59,759
not ridiculous judges, one who had at one seventeen to

330
00:14:59,799 --> 00:15:01,480
one ten and the other had at one sixteen to

331
00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,080
one eleven, one fourteen, one thirty is to me is

332
00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,759
just crazy to that's crazy town. I mean, like you said,

333
00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,679
that's that's if you don't score a knockdown, that judge

334
00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:12,279
has to fight a draw, which is just ridiculous. Uh.

335
00:15:12,519 --> 00:15:14,559
You know, I don't know how you can win if

336
00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,240
you don't score a knockdown of your own and you

337
00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:18,200
don't get a knockout. I just don't see how you

338
00:15:18,279 --> 00:15:20,559
win a fight if you only land literally never more

339
00:15:20,639 --> 00:15:23,279
than six punches. That's that's the most. There was a

340
00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,080
bunch of rounds where Brian Norman landed like two or

341
00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,759
three punches the whole around. Yeah, you're not gonna win

342
00:15:27,879 --> 00:15:28,679
like that. I just thought.

343
00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,759
Speaker 1: I thought he was very apprehensive until about the eighth

344
00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,559
or ninth round that he was gonna get countered the

345
00:15:34,639 --> 00:15:36,320
way that he got countered early on in the in

346
00:15:36,399 --> 00:15:38,440
the fight with a left hook and got hurt, and

347
00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,039
then he eventually got dropped by the right hand again.

348
00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,200
Full credit to Hainey moving up to one forty seven.

349
00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,960
Quick thought from you, he looked thicker. He still looked

350
00:15:47,039 --> 00:15:49,960
fast at welter Waite. We had questions about that. He

351
00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,039
answered a lot of those questions tonight because he was

352
00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,600
the tougher probably of the two fighters at one forty seven.

353
00:15:56,679 --> 00:15:57,279
That was interesting.

354
00:15:57,799 --> 00:15:59,919
Speaker 2: Well, the reality is he probably should as he said,

355
00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,879
I agree with him, he probably should have been at welterweight,

356
00:16:01,879 --> 00:16:03,240
you know, a few years ago, but there was so

357
00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,799
much at stake, so many bigger fights for him at

358
00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:07,960
the time, so much money involved, whether it was at

359
00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,879
lightweight when he was becoming on the way to undisputed

360
00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,840
and then the opportunity at junior welterweight. So maybe it

361
00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,120
was a couple of fights ago that he should have

362
00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,440
been in that way class. But he got there and

363
00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,840
you know, sometimes the opponents got a lot to do it.

364
00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,720
But he looked pretty good. I mean, again, that wasn't

365
00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,919
the most exciting fight, but that's Devin Hainey. If you

366
00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,159
if you go into a Devin Hainey fight thinking you're

367
00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,519
gonna see something spectacular in terms of action, then you

368
00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,000
just don't know what you're looking at. So you always

369
00:16:34,039 --> 00:16:36,519
have to have a certain kind of you know, you know,

370
00:16:36,559 --> 00:16:39,360
a normal type of expectation. It's like I watched I

371
00:16:39,399 --> 00:16:41,720
covered a ton of Floyd Mayweather fights. I always knew

372
00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:43,799
he was gonna outbox guys. I never expected he was

373
00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,559
gonna be in these wars. So even when he got

374
00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:46,879
like a fight that might be a little bit more

375
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,120
entertaining than your typical Floyd fight, you were kind of

376
00:16:49,159 --> 00:16:51,080
really thrilled about it. So, for example, you see him

377
00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,919
fight against like a Megalakota when it turns out to

378
00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,799
be a much more entertaining fighter, Marcus Maydonna. You know,

379
00:16:55,919 --> 00:16:58,960
Hani is capable of being those types of fights, but

380
00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:02,000
tonight was not one of them. But that said it,

381
00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,720
Sures was a lot better at entertainment wise than it

382
00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,759
was when he fought against Josey Ramirez in the may fight.

383
00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,480
That was one of the biggest thing bombs I've seen

384
00:17:10,519 --> 00:17:13,960
in a long time. So listen, I'm a Devin Hating fan.

385
00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,839
Credit to him, he hed he ain't planning, stuck to it.

386
00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,240
He won the fight. A lot of people picked Brian

387
00:17:19,279 --> 00:17:20,839
Norman because he was real hot. You it would look

388
00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:23,440
good in his last few fights, so he was, and

389
00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:25,240
I thought that Brian would win the fight. So you know,

390
00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:27,480
we got it wrong on that one. But I'm happy

391
00:17:27,519 --> 00:17:29,440
for Devin Haney. I mean, he gets a bad rap.

392
00:17:29,519 --> 00:17:32,359
The guy only does his fight top opponents, and uh,

393
00:17:32,559 --> 00:17:35,039
you know, people want to continue to harp on what happened.

394
00:17:34,759 --> 00:17:39,400
Speaker 1: Against and by and bye and by the way, not fair. Yeah,

395
00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,640
we'll talk about Garcia a second. By the way, just

396
00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,319
a commentary, and I want your comment Uh. They put

397
00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,720
Eddie hurt and Connor ban on and Connor Band's going

398
00:17:46,759 --> 00:17:48,880
on and on about how he didn't do anything the

399
00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:53,200
whole fight. He fought scared, blah blah blah. Sorry, connor

400
00:17:53,279 --> 00:17:56,720
Band has not won anything of significance even with the

401
00:17:56,839 --> 00:18:01,400
U Bank win last week. Connor Band also using peds.

402
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,720
By the way, settled down my man. Devin Haney was

403
00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:06,960
undisputed at one thirty five. Listen to me, sounded like

404
00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:09,799
he's pr Guy ray Field. On a Saturday night, Devin

405
00:18:09,839 --> 00:18:13,240
Haty moved up to one forty and one over Regis

406
00:18:13,319 --> 00:18:16,200
Pro Gray. Devin Hay now moves up to welterway to

407
00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,200
third division and beats an unbeaten fighter that had had

408
00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:24,359
scored three straight knockouts in championship fights. He settled down

409
00:18:24,559 --> 00:18:25,599
Connor and Eddie.

410
00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has to win against Lomachenko. He has two

411
00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,920
wins on the road against them. He's got wins over

412
00:18:33,079 --> 00:18:35,440
guys like NRS who would have been at their peak,

413
00:18:35,519 --> 00:18:37,079
but was still very serviceable.

414
00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:37,799
Speaker 1: At Pro Gray.

415
00:18:38,519 --> 00:18:40,680
Speaker 2: I mean well, Pro Gray was a champion and it

416
00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:43,359
was in his uh you know, was defending his title.

417
00:18:43,559 --> 00:18:46,480
He won literally a twelve rounds to zero shadowt and

418
00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:50,160
scored a knockdown. So again for for connor Ben, who

419
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,000
you know, I got nothing against Connor Ben, and I

420
00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:54,519
was a big fan of his fathers also, But like

421
00:18:54,599 --> 00:18:56,599
you said, it's ridiculous, so he can talk only wants

422
00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,799
let conn connor Ben hasn't even won so much on

423
00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,559
a fucking British title. He's never won the Commonwealth title.

424
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,359
He's sure won the European title, correct, and he sure

425
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,799
has won not won a world title. And as you said,

426
00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,000
he did, you know, a suspension for a blatant p

427
00:19:10,599 --> 00:19:13,640
PED violation and he has obviously you can't take away

428
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,160
the win he had against you Bank a couple of

429
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,480
weeks ago. But by the way, let's not forget he

430
00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:20,119
lost in the fight against you Bank in the first

431
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,160
one they had. So you know, they're out there and

432
00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,599
I understand it. He's he's spreading his wings a little bit,

433
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,480
he's creaming like the peacock with his towel out off

434
00:19:27,519 --> 00:19:30,680
the big win. But Devin Haney's got more accomplishment in

435
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,640
his little finger as a professional boxer than Connor Ben

436
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:34,759
has in his entire body.

437
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so that leads us, therefore to this. Ryan Garcia

438
00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:44,839
put on social media that he bet fifty thousand dollars.

439
00:19:44,839 --> 00:19:46,839
I don't know if he showed the betting slip. Maybe

440
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,640
that's what he was signing the other day on social

441
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,160
media was his bet for Devin Haney. He bet fifty

442
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,559
grand on Haney to win. Is this leading us to

443
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,000
a Hainy Ryan Garcia rematch at one forty seven? Is

444
00:19:58,079 --> 00:19:59,359
that possibly next?

445
00:19:59,559 --> 00:19:59,640
Speaker 2: Ye?

446
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,160
Speaker 1: I know, definitely been talking about Garcia and Barrios would

447
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,240
be next. Do you think Garcia and Barrios remains next? Yeah?

448
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,359
Speaker 2: Absolutely that. Listen, boxing is like, it takes time to

449
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,720
play things out. Nobody really ever generally rushes into these things.

450
00:20:18,039 --> 00:20:20,319
There was a big movement to make a rematch between

451
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,279
the two after the fight. They were put on the

452
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,519
card in Times Square by Turkey, and if they had

453
00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:28,279
won those fights, they would the rematch was done. Ryan

454
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,319
Garcia lost to Roly Romero, and even though Devin Hainey won.

455
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,640
It was a horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible fight.

456
00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:40,079
So therefore, even though Turkey still could have gone forward

457
00:20:40,079 --> 00:20:41,880
with it if he wanted to, he made the right

458
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,920
choice and said, you know what, I'm gonna take a

459
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,200
step back from that. But now there's a reason why

460
00:20:47,279 --> 00:20:49,880
maybe it will work because hany came through and won

461
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,400
the fight against you know, in the in the fight

462
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,279
against Norman, and win another title. He's now a three

463
00:20:54,319 --> 00:20:57,920
division champion. Uh Devin Haney is in position. It was

464
00:20:58,279 --> 00:21:01,240
maybe not a great fight, but at Sures was watchable.

465
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,519
And then you have Ryan Garcia still coming off the

466
00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:06,359
lost to Romero. He's gonna fight Barrios that fight again.

467
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,400
As I wrote, they've you know, Ryan said he signed

468
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,640
a contract, and I've explained ad nauseum that he can

469
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,039
sign anything he wants, but there's lots of other parties

470
00:21:13,079 --> 00:21:15,160
that have to sign and agree to fight before a

471
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,599
fight is official. But it probably will get done. So

472
00:21:17,759 --> 00:21:20,599
he'll fight Barrios most likely in February. If he wins

473
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,079
that fight. Now he's the WBC champion and Haini is

474
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,960
the WBO champion, and it's a fight that the two

475
00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:29,319
sides want to reconvene and try to make the match.

476
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,920
Whether Turkey's involved or not, then it's absolutely a fight

477
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,359
that can be made. And obviously there's a storyline. There's

478
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,960
a lot of animosity there. Everything that happened with the

479
00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:39,359
first fight, with the knockdowns will be really legated. All

480
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,240
the shit that went down with Ryan Garcia's peal drug

481
00:21:42,319 --> 00:21:45,400
test within missing weight, with everything that, there's a lot

482
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,160
of drama in that fight. As far as all the

483
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,119
storylines and all this stuff going into it, I have

484
00:21:50,279 --> 00:21:53,200
no doubt in my mind that should they come out,

485
00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:57,160
if Ryan wins that title against Barrios, that they probably

486
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,599
would look to do that fight. Would it be the

487
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,880
next fight, yeah, would it be one more fight after that? Possibly,

488
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,799
But that fight is going to happen eventually. There's too

489
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,319
much money and interest and everything around it and for

490
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,839
it to not happen again.

491
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: I love Dan's insight. We're live on YouTube on this

492
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,599
Saturday night again for the podcast audience. You're hearing it

493
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,119
on the normal timeline Sunday night into Monday morning for

494
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,400
the recap podcast. Full disclosure, I'm in Los Angeles as

495
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,200
we do this live. I have flown all day to

496
00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:28,240
day with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers NFL Travel Party. I'm

497
00:22:28,279 --> 00:22:30,920
part of the Buccaneer Radio broadcast. We play the Los

498
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,319
Angeles Rams Sunday night. It's a crazy weekend on the

499
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,799
West coast of the United States for me. But we're

500
00:22:35,839 --> 00:22:38,079
here live on this Saturday night, And if you're live

501
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,359
with us on YouTube, we're gonna get some comments coming up.

502
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,759
If you're seeing us later on YouTube on demand, thank

503
00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:47,359
you for finding us. Comment on the video down below.

504
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,799
That helps us in the algorithm. So even if you're

505
00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:53,240
seeing us after the fact, comment on the video with

506
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,359
your thoughts on what we saw from this card. Ben

507
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,160
a Vetas wins by knockout in the main event, Devin

508
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,759
Haney in the co feature is Victorius.

509
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,599
Speaker 2: And I'm looking here. I see our man. C Miller

510
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,160
twelve thirty six just shot us like four dollars and

511
00:23:09,279 --> 00:23:13,440
ninety nine bonus. We love to appreciate that him.

512
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,519
Speaker 1: I didn't even see that on YouTube. Rayfield needs some

513
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,039
collections because he's trying to bring buy Young Rayfield some gifts,

514
00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:23,160
buy him some food. I need food for the twins.

515
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,160
The twins want a new car, which they're not getting

516
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,799
for Christmas. So shoot us some stuff on YouTube. We

517
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,640
love it. Thank you for the gift. Yes, we got

518
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,519
a split the we gotta we got a revenue share

519
00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:36,000
going you and me. We might be able to buy

520
00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:38,160
a happy meal by the end of the night tonight

521
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,920
on this Thank you for that, all right, So let's

522
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,920
thin we do. Thank you I think so yes, on

523
00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:47,240
the on the revenue and on the live show. All right.

524
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,759
So moving down the car, guess he Bam Rodriguez becomes

525
00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:56,599
the three belt unified Junior banhamweight champion, and really from

526
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,680
the jump against Fernando Martinez of our Argentina the San

527
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,079
Anto video, guy Bam goes all the way to Saudi

528
00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:04,279
Arabia and dominated. I put that word up there. He

529
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,799
dominated him and then he eventually knocked him out with

530
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,039
a big left hand. Dan, give us your thoughts in

531
00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:10,839
the recap mode here on this Saturday Night Live.

532
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: Enjoy Dam Rodriguez right now, because this is a young

533
00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:16,880
man who is absolutely in his prime. He may only

534
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,839
be twenty five years old, but in these smaller weight classes,

535
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,680
you're in your prime when you're that age, especially as

536
00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:23,640
long as he has been boxing so far as a pro.

537
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,240
What does he not do like what did his defense,

538
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,759
very sound offense, obvious footwork, is among the best in

539
00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:35,119
the business. Jabb there, willingness to fight the best fighters there,

540
00:24:35,319 --> 00:24:38,000
fought in multiple weight classes there. I mean, has a

541
00:24:38,039 --> 00:24:40,359
great team behind him. Whether you talk about Robert Garcia,

542
00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:42,519
who's been with him his entire career as a manager,

543
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,920
slash promo or trainer. You know, he's obviously with Matt

544
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,799
from boxing. They've done a tremendous job with him to

545
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,640
bring him certain opportunities. And he's also just an extraordinary

546
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,279
likable person. I've had the chance to talk to him

547
00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:56,720
and meet him and talk and get to know him

548
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,880
a little bit over the years. Just a first class guy.

549
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,599
I mean, he embodies everything that's right about boxing. Doesn't

550
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,599
cut corners, it doesn't seem comes in shape, takes it

551
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:08,240
seriously and is willing to fight the best, and he

552
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,880
shows up in shape and goes to work every single time.

553
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,400
He did that exact thing tonight against Fernando Martinez. By

554
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,759
all rights, he should have been the undisputed champion tonight,

555
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,240
but because of the sanctioning body nonsense that we deal

556
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:25,039
with all the time, Fernando Martinez ended up vacating one

557
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:27,480
of he had unified two titles against Ioka in their

558
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:29,599
first fight, which was part of the Earth Right, but

559
00:25:29,759 --> 00:25:31,799
after that was over, he had an you guessed the

560
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,200
TJA and IBF mandatory, so the IBF doing IBF things,

561
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,319
and so he ended up vacating that title to go

562
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,799
forward with the rematch against Ioka and defend the WBA

563
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,680
belt that he had won against him, so that the

564
00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:46,000
IBF belt ended up is now held by Willibaldo Garcia,

565
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,519
who's actually gonna fight in Saudi Arabia coming up on

566
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,359
the Inn a Way card in December, and so now

567
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,720
he's got three belts. But Van Rodriguez obviously is the

568
00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:57,880
number one fighter in the weight class. He already now

569
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,880
has three belts and the ring belt and the lineal belt.

570
00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:04,319
Put that in the perspective as he's a guy who

571
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,039
had won the title in that way class went. The

572
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,039
WBC title went down in Wait and unified titles at

573
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,319
flyweight came back up to jingor Banham. Wait knocked out

574
00:26:16,759 --> 00:26:18,440
Wan Francisco Estrada, who's going to be in the Hall

575
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,640
of Fame someday, in a great performance to win the

576
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,839
WBC title in his fight before this one that took

577
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,240
place this past summer, he knocked out Cafu, who was undefeated,

578
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:32,319
to win the WBO title, went right into this unification

579
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,799
against Martinez. Now he's got three titles, and it was

580
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,759
like a big week for him. As we've discussed, as

581
00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:40,359
they talked about on the broadcast, he left his pregnant girlfriend.

582
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,279
I guess they're not legally married, but they're together for

583
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,799
many years and have two children together while she was pregnant,

584
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,440
knowing that there was a very good chance that she

585
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:50,440
was going to deliver their child while he was away.

586
00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:53,920
But you know, the the legacy at stake first career,

587
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,240
the amount of money that he was going to put

588
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:57,319
in the bank for the family, they decided that it

589
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,039
was worth it for him to take the trip. So

590
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,039
he missed the birth of the of his son. His

591
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,279
son was born on Wednesday, skipped out on the open

592
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,279
workout understandably and watch it on FaceTime.

593
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:06,759
Speaker 1: Uh.

594
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,039
Speaker 2: And so he he sounded like, you know, he said

595
00:27:09,079 --> 00:27:10,759
in his interview in the post fight, like I could

596
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:13,279
cry right now because he was still sort of disappointed

597
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,960
and an emotional about the fact that he missed the

598
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:18,640
birth of his son. But then at the other and

599
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,480
said he'll understand, you know when he when he's older,

600
00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:23,720
and I explained it to him, but I did this

601
00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:26,079
for my daughter, from my girlfriend, from my son. Yeah,

602
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,319
and a million he's got he's got another belt to

603
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,039
hold up, and he's got millions of dollars to go

604
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:31,200
in the bank account Monday morning.

605
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: I thought from the very beginning of this fight, while

606
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,079
we analyze it, he had some power punches, was picking

607
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,559
his spots, and Martinez just did not have punching power

608
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,519
to do much of anything to disrupt Bam Rodriguez from

609
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:45,799
doing what he wanted to do, and he wore him

610
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:46,599
down and knocked him out.

611
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 2: What do you think he I think he had the power,

612
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:52,359
he just couldn't deliver the power. I always think about

613
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,720
what my old pal, Teddy Allis from our ESPN days,

614
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,599
would say, you can have the greatest uh, you know,

615
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,640
bombs and missiles and weapons and that you can possibly have,

616
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,319
but you need a delivery system. And if you'd nothing

617
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,319
to deliver that power with, then what good is it?

618
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:11,240
And Bim Martinez completely negated what Pluma Martinez had to offer,

619
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:13,039
and other fighters have not been able to so much

620
00:28:13,079 --> 00:28:15,519
do that, but he just took away everything. If you

621
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:18,000
watch the Ioka fight, the first one in particular, I

622
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,400
forget the number, but he threw like freaking eleven hundred

623
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,000
punches or something in that fight. He was so far

624
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:28,160
below that output against against Bam. It was because Bam

625
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:30,880
was coming back with stuff and his defenses really sound,

626
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,720
and he was kind of worried about what was coming

627
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:35,400
back because he has power, also more than Ioka does,

628
00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:41,359
and Iopa is not the athlete. And I think as another.

629
00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: Thing that I noticed, and I even commented, Sergio Mora

630
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,000
commented on this, Bam was giving him different angles. He'd

631
00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:49,119
hit him, he'd move, he'd move sideways, he'd move laterally.

632
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,359
He was not an easy target. He didn't stand in

633
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,680
front of Martinez, and Martinez had no answers for that. Right.

634
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,519
Speaker 2: If you watch Bam Rodriguez fight anytime, you watch him, okay,

635
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:02,160
obviously watch and see what punches he's throwing, what he's landing,

636
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,400
and what's going on. But I always try when I

637
00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:07,559
especially with Dam, because it's so good and so fluid

638
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,000
and so pinpoint, I sometimes don't look at the punches.

639
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,200
I spend some of my time if the camera angle

640
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:16,200
is correct. I watched his feet because his feet are

641
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,720
so perfectly in position all the time. You know, they

642
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:20,759
talked about it. It's very obvious if you watch any

643
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:22,960
number of his fights that the footwork that he has

644
00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:26,079
is just just really almost perfect. He can move the

645
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:28,839
way he wants whichever direction. He can go lateral, he

646
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,880
can back up, he can go forward, he can do it.

647
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,400
You know, he can you know, move on a dime.

648
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:35,160
He's not like a speed demon, but it's enough to

649
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,720
really take anybody out of their game. And he just

650
00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:40,880
has such a good innate understanding of how to move

651
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,559
and where to put his punches and how to have

652
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,519
his body placed. You know that these are the kinds

653
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:47,720
of things they work on endlessly in the gym. We

654
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:50,079
see the finished product on fight night. But you know,

655
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,039
it's like the old saying, you're out there in the

656
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:54,559
dark putting in here ten thousand hours. And he's done that,

657
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,559
and it's and it has got it the perfection, and

658
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,400
he's done it so many times, and he's fighting against

659
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,119
good opponents. So we'll know if Eddie Hearn gets his

660
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,559
way and dam gets his way and Robert Garcia gets

661
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:08,279
his way, he'll fight the winner of the uh not

662
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,720
the it's not which fight is it's the the Willibaldo

663
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,759
is defending the title on that card that's coming up

664
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:15,480
in uh what do they call it, the Night of

665
00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:17,640
the Samurai. That's the card within a way, it's going

666
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,759
to take care at the end of December, yeah, December.

667
00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:24,240
So so the outcome of that fight, uh, you know,

668
00:30:24,319 --> 00:30:26,000
we shall see because what he would like to do,

669
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:28,920
I think is and again Turkey's involved with them, so

670
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,680
maybe they can make it work that if Willibaldo or

671
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,960
or or you know, if he loses a title or

672
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,880
he retains a title against Taraji, that the ideal fight

673
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,680
would be for Bam to fight the winner of that

674
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:43,519
fight Taraji or Garcia, to produce the undisputed champ. Now

675
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:45,519
he talked about in the lead up, I want this fight,

676
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,160
meaning the one he just won tonight. Then I want

677
00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:51,160
the undisputed fight after that, and then I'm going up

678
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:53,319
in wait, so he'll move up to banham Waite and

679
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,680
look to try to do some damage up there. And eventually,

680
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,759
as we've discussed, you know, if in a way is

681
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:00,640
still at one twenty two or not Tony is still

682
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,680
hanging around. Those are major, major fights in those way classes,

683
00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:04,480
huge fights.

684
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,359
Speaker 1: And again for Bam Rodriguez. That's nine straight title fight wins.

685
00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:13,000
That's five straight knockouts in title fights for him. So

686
00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:20,480
he is delivering right, yes, and deservedly. So deservedly he's

687
00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:21,480
not He's not a number. You know.

688
00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: Look, the top three are are to me anyway, and

689
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,400
I think most people agree, whatever order you're gonna put him,

690
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,039
you got you know, certainly Terrence Crawford, Alexander Usik and

691
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,200
and uh in a in a way, once you get

692
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,559
past those three guys, you know, if you want to

693
00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:41,720
tell me you got Bam there, fourth, fifth, sixth, I

694
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:43,599
can't argue. I mean, who else is there gonna put there?

695
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,240
Maybe you can put bevil Is in the is the conversation,

696
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,400
even even off the loss, better be maybe in the conversation.

697
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,480
I mean, those those are the types of guys we're

698
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,359
talking about. You know, Canelo probably drops down a little

699
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,119
bit after losing the way he did against Crawford. Uh.

700
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,359
But but there's no doubt that Vamguez is one of

701
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,359
the elite boxers in the world. He epitomizes the sweet science.

702
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,319
He's entertaining, but he boxes and he punches. There's fewer

703
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,519
guys that are more complete he does everything well.

704
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:15,599
Speaker 1: All right, give him a lot of credit and we'll

705
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,480
recap the fourth of the four title fights. This led

706
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:21,000
off the main card of the title fights, and that's

707
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:25,799
Abdullah Mason unbeating American out of Cleveland, Ohio out slugging

708
00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:29,240
Sam Noakes of England for the WBO lightweight title. Full

709
00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:33,039
credit to Noakes. He took a lot of punishment, bloody face,

710
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:37,920
busted nose, cut eyes, swollen face, kept firing back, but

711
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,079
I just thought Mason was just better, especially as the

712
00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:45,720
fight were on. So Abdullah Mason does get the decision

713
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:48,599
win in this one, Dan, what are your thoughts? Has

714
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,680
he becomes a world champ? And am I correct? He's

715
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,079
the youngest world champ now in professional boxing by virtue

716
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:54,400
of this win.

717
00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're sort of saving the best for last. This

718
00:32:57,799 --> 00:32:59,480
may have been the first of the four title fights

719
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,599
by by far and away, it was the best. No

720
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:03,920
matter what you you know, whether you like the other

721
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,440
three fights or not, there's no doubt that just in

722
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:09,200
terms of the pure sort of unbridled action that this

723
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:11,920
fight produced, it was clearly the best fight of the show.

724
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:15,920
He is, at age twenty one, now the youngest active

725
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,240
male world champion in boxing the previous The guy that

726
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,640
he surpassed was his top ranks stablemate Xander's Eyes, who

727
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,240
won the vacant WBO Junior Midway title back in July.

728
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,480
He was twenty two years old when he won the title.

729
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,759
He has since turned twenty three. And here you now

730
00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:34,599
have You have Abdulla Mason, twenty one years old, coming

731
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,240
off an absolute war with Sam Noaks, who put up

732
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,160
a great fight even if he was sort of behind

733
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,599
pretty much the whole way, and Mason got the job done.

734
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:45,680
I mean, it was very obvious, and they talked about

735
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,599
in the broadcast also, but I was noticing the same thing.

736
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,000
He certainly could have made the fight a lot easier

737
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,559
for himself. He had so much more length on him,

738
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,559
He had deater boxing ability, at quicker hands, quicker feet,

739
00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:58,680
He could have definitely been a I'm not saying naked boring,

740
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,599
but if he had taken a little bit more time

741
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,720
on the outside and use the jab a little bit

742
00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:04,880
more and you know, still could have been entertaining, but

743
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,160
not as physically demanding and grueling as it turned out

744
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,079
to be, he could have won the fight, you know,

745
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,519
way easier in my opinion. But his mentality is he

746
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:14,400
likes to fight. When I think of fighters like that,

747
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:18,559
I think about guys I've always enjoyed watching Oscar de

748
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,920
la Hoya could box with anybody, but love to fight.

749
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,519
Shane Moseley could box with anybody, but love to fight.

750
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,360
Meldrick Taylor could box with anybody, but love to fight.

751
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,159
Those types of fighters, and Mason seems to have that

752
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,159
sort of thing in him also where he knows he

753
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,960
can box a guy, but he likes to get in

754
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:35,039
there and mix it up and fight, and that's exactly

755
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:37,440
what he did. And Sam Noaks, who is much more

756
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,360
limited in his abilities but still had a big heart

757
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,880
and some power and was there to fight, also was

758
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,760
more than a welcoming of that type of matchup and

759
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,880
they just put on a great fight in the end,

760
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,119
though it was no doubt that Abdulla Mason was the winner.

761
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,280
Two judges head at seven to five, one fifteen to

762
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,119
one thirteen, one judge had at one seventeen to one eleven,

763
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:56,239
which is how I had to fight. But he you know,

764
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,440
however you slice it, there was no question that it

765
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:01,320
was Abdulla Mason that won that fight, deserved that fight,

766
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,159
and uh, you know, what. I can't wait to watch

767
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,559
him again. And even sam Oaks losing, who cares bring

768
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:07,960
him back? Find a dice opponent for him. I'll watched

769
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,119
sam Oaks fight all day long.

770
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: Should be in the conversation for Fight of the Year,

771
00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:15,440
just because Notates kept firing back. I mean he was

772
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,760
hurt late in the fight and kept firing back, and

773
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,440
Mason was just better. The crowd roaring there in sauny Arabia, Yeah, yeah,

774
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,519
it was a full credit to him. And again Mason

775
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:32,559
gets the championship win. All right, So let's get some

776
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,400
comments in from the Savages and see what they think

777
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:38,119
live on the YouTube show on this Saturday night. Again

778
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,719
for the podcast audience, just indulgees. You're hearing it after

779
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,159
the fat, after it is done. Look at this the Savages.

780
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,639
The Savages donating to the Rayfield Retirement Fund. Here, know

781
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,480
what I see somebody, don't I see somebody else donated

782
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:56,800
twenty dollars tonight. We may be going to Sizzler, like

783
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,679
in uh, white men Can't Jump, We're going to Sis.

784
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:02,280
Were going to Cizler.

785
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,199
Speaker 2: We definitely for the happy Meal.

786
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: Now, I guess I think I think we can all right,

787
00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:10,599
let me get to the top with the comments, and

788
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:14,320
we'll get to as many as we can. Tyler Watching says,

789
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,039
what's up, fellas? Hello? Tyler Dave says, Hey, guys, thank

790
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:23,199
you Dave. I mean, I'm just shouting out. Whoever, let's

791
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,840
see mister big play Bray says that was a good card,

792
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,199
too good fights, too okay fights. You would agree with that.

793
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: I give. I gotta give the name of the person

794
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:35,320
that threw in the twenty bucks though, looks like it's

795
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,000
Sebbs ninety three eighty four, who's now my favorite person

796
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:40,000
on YouTube.

797
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: Seb He's the favorite YouTuber for us. Sebs. Thank you.

798
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:47,920
You agree with two good fights and two okay fights.

799
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:51,440
I think the notes. I think the Mason Notas is

800
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,320
a really good fight.

801
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: By the way, So what was the second fight they

802
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,960
were referred to, which was the one that they thought

803
00:36:56,039 --> 00:36:56,280
was good?

804
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,639
Speaker 1: He's probably he's probably saying that the that the that

805
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,320
the Benavitas Yard would be the good fight out of

806
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,119
the other ones, because as you mentioned, the other two

807
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:09,039
were basically one sided. Uh band nominated and Devin Haney

808
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:10,880
got the early nightdown and Norman didn't do anything.

809
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,559
Speaker 2: So yeah, Noaks and Mason was a terrific fight, hands

810
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:16,559
down fight of the night, going to be in the

811
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:19,400
conversation on those lists of when people make the top

812
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:22,800
ten fights of the AAR for sure. The other ones,

813
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:26,239
I mean there were different reasons to enjoy them, but

814
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:28,320
none of them are going to be the car classics.

815
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: But you saw, you saw action, and you saw knockouts also,

816
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:36,920
and so I mean you had everything in this in

817
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:38,719
this including the main event.

818
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: Always sort of my sort of thought about a pay

819
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,639
per view, what did you think about the matchups when

820
00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:46,519
you bought the fight card? How and how much did

821
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:49,199
you like them? Obviously in this card, pretty much everybody

822
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,760
liked them. If they bought it, they knew this was

823
00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:54,400
you know, quality matchmaking and good good guys evenly matched

824
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,719
to it, you know, with no blatant blatant you know, massive,

825
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,760
massive favorite. And then there's how to play out. So

826
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,679
in the end, we got a Fight of the Year candidate.

827
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,480
We got an absolutely masterpiece, brilliant performance from Bam. We

828
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:10,320
had a very very good performance from Devin Hainey with

829
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,199
a knockdown, and you add another really good performance from

830
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:15,000
Benavide's in a little bit better of an action fight

831
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:17,320
and a stoppage. So I would say this if you

832
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,960
spent the fifty nine to ninety nine, or you maybe

833
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,559
you upgraded your Zone subscription and bought their Ultimate plane

834
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:25,119
which includes all the pay per views. I can't imagine

835
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:28,719
you walked away from tonight's activity being disappointed, because, look,

836
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,239
you're just not gonna get better overall events like that.

837
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,920
I mean, you just can't snap your fingers and make

838
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:35,320
them happen.

839
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: It's rare. Turkey al Sheik's got the money. It's rare

840
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,639
that you're going to get four title fights on the

841
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:42,360
same pay per view, But you got it in the

842
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,000
present day.

843
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,559
Speaker 2: Happened on a regular basis. There's been a ton of

844
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:50,360
shows with four title fights, but at this level of

845
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,599
the competition, yes of the fighters is not the same

846
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,679
as a lot of those other things. Like they'll be

847
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,800
real quick, but it'll be a big mismatch, all right,

848
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,559
real quick.

849
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,159
Speaker 1: Because the string is kind of getting a little wonky.

850
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:02,960
I'm in the hotel in La Ray, Fael's in his

851
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,599
home in Northern Virginia, and we've been here for a

852
00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:07,239
couple of minutes. Kevin says, Benefte is going to cruise

853
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,599
of weight, so he's never really gonna fight Canelo, better

854
00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:13,199
Beev or b Bowl Well hold On certainly looks that way, right.

855
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: Him not fighting Canelo is not David Benavitez's his fault.

856
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,000
Number one hundred, that's correct, that's all correct. Number two

857
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:24,039
is correct. Bivol was ordered to fight him and declined

858
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:26,679
and gave up the WBC titles, so that's not him either,

859
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,599
And better bv was coming off the loss and there

860
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:31,960
was really that that never even was a thing. So

861
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,440
he may go to cruiserweight for the chance to win

862
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:37,719
two more titles, make a shiitload of money. And if

863
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,880
he goes up there, I don't know if it's a

864
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,360
guarantee that he would never come back down, but probably

865
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,239
if he does go, he's probably done. But that's that's

866
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:49,159
that's not on him. That's on on on the circumstances

867
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,119
of whether there was going to be a third fight

868
00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:54,320
between better bvan Bvol, whether they were going to give

869
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,719
him the opportunity. I mean, you know, even if Bevo

870
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,960
had not given up the title, that fight probably wouldn't

871
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,400
happened anyway, at least not yet because of the fact

872
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,119
that Dimitri had back surgery. You know, that's not that's

873
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,079
that's not a guy's I'm ducking. That's that's a guy saying,

874
00:40:08,199 --> 00:40:08,400
you know.

875
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:11,559
Speaker 1: And I don't think. I don't think uh, I don't

876
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:14,760
think Kevin was blaming Benevidez. He was just saying he's

877
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,519
not gonna get one of those fights against one of

878
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:18,360
those fighters. But again, if he chooses to move up

879
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,400
to cruisewaight, he could always move back down, like you said,

880
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,880
he could move back down after he fights Zero if

881
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,039
that fight is coming as you were talking.

882
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 2: But there's nothing that would preclude in the future of

883
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,800
better Be or Beebe going to cruiserweight either, true, let

884
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,239
me remember quickly, but mostly supers as a super midleweight,

885
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:39,119
so he's jumping up another weight class. Biebo has been

886
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:42,000
fighting at light heavyweight his whole career, and so is

887
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:43,920
better BF. So they could take the chance to go

888
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:46,039
up to the cruiserweight. Also, maybe I'll give maybe if

889
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:48,280
he beats Zero, one of those guys wants to come

890
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,000
up and challenge him at cruiserweight, that'd be fine.

891
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: Dwayne A Watching says, so much better than the Times

892
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,000
square card across the board. Absolutely, of course, almost anything

893
00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:01,760
would have been better than that. Car uh Jay Deep

894
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,280
says Anthony Yard had a great potential but ruined by

895
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,360
a terrible trainer. Do you buy that that he was

896
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,039
not instructed well enough? Certainly he didn't have a whole

897
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:13,760
lot of a plan. Uh tonight. I know Sergio Moro

898
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,559
was saying early on in the fight, Yeah, he's looking

899
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:18,000
to counter punch him. You know, he definitely looks like

900
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:21,280
the thicker fighter. That didn't matter. Benavidez was just faster hands,

901
00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:23,760
wore him down and battered him. I'm saying that, but

902
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,960
what what about the trainer situation? Did that ef?

903
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:27,639
Speaker 2: I don't know how, I don't know went on in

904
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,480
the gym and what the what? How they worked that out?

905
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:32,480
But uh so, I'm not really one to really ever

906
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:34,639
lay the blame solely at the trainer's feet. I mean,

907
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,760
certainly they're part of the team, and they're a big

908
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:42,519
part of the team. But Anthony, uh, Anthony, He's had

909
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,960
different trainers through his crowd. Don't think this is the

910
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,519
only trainer he's ever had. And he's never gotten over

911
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:50,880
the hump before. So he may have tried this guy,

912
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,320
tried that guy. But at the end of the day,

913
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:56,199
then you know, you can be given information, but you're

914
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,679
the one that's got to go and do the job.

915
00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:00,840
And uh, you know I I'm not blaming the trainer.

916
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,239
I think Anthony yard I got you. He was behind

917
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,280
the eight ball from the standpoint that he didn't start

918
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,559
boxing until he was eighteen years old. He didn't have

919
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,039
any an amateur fight till who was almost twenty years old.

920
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,199
So you're always going to be behind the eight ball

921
00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:15,079
when you're dealing with a guy like a David Denavidez

922
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,559
who has been in a boxing family's entire life and

923
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,760
picked up gloves when he's probably like eight years old.

924
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,280
So I'm not blaming the trainer.

925
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,679
Speaker 1: A couple more quickly, let's see this is Lexi Poigner

926
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,599
or Pointer says fight of the night was Mason Noakes.

927
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:37,639
Do you guys think Mason started too fast? Can't always

928
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:41,480
shoot off at first? Almost cost him the fight? Did

929
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:44,119
you think that Mason was going to wear himself out

930
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,159
early on in the fight? I did not sense that.

931
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:46,760
What did you say?

932
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 2: I didn't sense that He's twenty one years old, he

933
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,400
could have fought fifteen rounds. He was in a great condition.

934
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,400
Sam Noak started off fast. Also, the styles meshed like

935
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,679
that that's just the way it was going to be.

936
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,960
As I said before, he has the mentality where he

937
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:00,719
could have made it easier on himself and done a

938
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,400
little more boxing and taking a step back from time

939
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,760
to time, but he likes to mix it up. So no,

940
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,599
I don't think he made a mistake. Maybe that's the

941
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:09,440
type of thing that when they get back in the

942
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,880
gym and they start to go over the tape and

943
00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:15,000
he talks to his dad and the people involved with

944
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:17,440
his corner or the matchmakers a top rank have a

945
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,800
word with him, they may bring up that type of

946
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,760
suggestion that you know you But also I can understand

947
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,239
here he's he's excited, right, He's fighting a world champions

948
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,360
and fight. He's twenty one years old, four years ago

949
00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:29,880
this month he turned pro. That's a you know, unless

950
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,239
you're a Lomachenko or that type of fighter with that

951
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,039
amateur career and you're thirty years old already, he's super

952
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:38,599
pumped up. So I don't blame him. He did, he

953
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:40,519
did what he wanted to do. He was able to

954
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:41,760
be there and he did what he had to do

955
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,440
and he made a great fight out of it. But

956
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:45,599
the thing is, again, you can't do that every time,

957
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:46,880
you're gonna have a very short career.

958
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. And plus he took some shots. That's what you're saying.

959
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,280
He took some shots fighting that way late in the

960
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,280
fight from notes, Boxing God weighs in and says Mason

961
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,760
noakes fight of the year. He says, Ben you bank

962
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,360
fight of the year. He means the second one, and

963
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:05,960
then he references a great fight. If you want to

964
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,199
go back on YouTube something YouTube Uplo Cicero, Caveman Lee.

965
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,679
I think that were middleweights the old ESPN Grainy Top

966
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,039
Rank boxing. Is that really nineteen eighty two? What a

967
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:19,039
great reference from Boxing God. I love that.

968
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:21,519
Speaker 2: That's a great fight. I remember, yes, I'll tell you

969
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,840
so I went one one time year. So Al al

970
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,199
Bernstein our buddy, you know, ye wrote those years. But

971
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,920
back back in those days, he was one of the

972
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,320
voices on the old He was on the call, right,

973
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,480
he was on the call on this fight. So besides boxing,

974
00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:37,840
Al as an entertainer. He sings, and you know, he

975
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,960
does these stage shows and all that. He's a very

976
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:43,599
talented guy. So he would have these like boxing parties,

977
00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:46,119
like on a Thursday or Friday night before a big fights.

978
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:48,119
I remember when I don't remember what fight it was at,

979
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:49,280
but I was. I think it was a big fight

980
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,639
at the Mandalay Bay and he did one of these

981
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,960
shows in one of the lounges there, and a lot

982
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,199
of the boxing people shut up and it was like

983
00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:57,639
a boxing party. So he's saying and he told jokes,

984
00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:00,159
and they showed some videos and there's some trivia, and

985
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,840
one of the things he did was he showed that

986
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,440
fight and people are going crazy, and that's like, you know,

987
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:06,559
still thirty years before the fight. You know, it was

988
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:07,880
thirty years old, and peoples like.

989
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:14,079
Speaker 1: Taggler, hearns and both guys down multiple times in the fight.

990
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:17,679
We're talking about Lo Cicero Caveman League. Great fight from

991
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,920
nineteen eighty two. Great reference. So a couple more comments

992
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,519
and then we're going to get out of here. On

993
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:23,719
the recap because we've been here, I'm looking for different

994
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,400
people with questions. The aircraft carrier wants to know Dan.

995
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:31,760
What's next for Brian Norman Junior. After that, he calls

996
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,920
it a train wreck loss. After the train wreck loss,

997
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:35,920
I mean, his career is not over.

998
00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: No, what do you think, He's twenty four years old.

999
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,519
He lost a decision to a guy that's now a

1000
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:43,480
three division world champion, that's been at the top of

1001
00:45:43,559 --> 00:45:45,519
the mountain and has been one of the top fighters

1002
00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:47,159
in the sport for a long time. Yeah, he had

1003
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:50,199
a rough patch there with the situation with the Ryan

1004
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,880
Garcia fighting, and maybe not an exciting fight, but it

1005
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,199
certainly a win against Hosi Ramirez. So that's that's happened.

1006
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,840
He's twenty four years old. You know he didn't I

1007
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,519
don't mean he got knocked down, and I don't look

1008
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:02,719
at it like he took punishment and Devin hinting and

1009
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,079
land enough punches in the whole fight to really doll

1010
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:07,519
out significant punishment. So you know what, you go and

1011
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:10,199
you learn a guys lose. That happened. So I have

1012
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,280
no doubt, knowing the fact that he comes from a

1013
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,000
boxing family, knowing sort of his old school mentality. Certainly,

1014
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:19,719
I've known his manager, Joelane the Zone for my entire career.

1015
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,599
She knows what she's doing. They'll they'll take a little

1016
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:24,280
break and they'll get him back in action. He's not done,

1017
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,760
I mean, so I think has a bright future out

1018
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,480
of him. Keep in mind, by the way, Walter Waite

1019
00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:30,239
is not the most loaded division in the world either,

1020
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,519
So you know he'll get back on the horse and

1021
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:35,199
they'll they'll put him back in position, and I believe

1022
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,880
he probably will be able to win another world title

1023
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:37,320
at some point.

1024
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: By the way, the aircraft carrier agreed with me that

1025
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,519
Norman Junior was badly hurt. I don't know how badly hurt,

1026
00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:45,280
but clearly the eyes were not there. The legs buckled

1027
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,039
some with that left hook, and then the right put

1028
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:50,280
him down. He survived the round, he survived the distance,

1029
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,559
but I think he was a different fighter after that.

1030
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:56,320
I think it's I'm looking for anybody else different commenter

1031
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,960
in here? Stir? Do I have this limpete? If I

1032
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:07,480
have this right says that Noakes and Mason was the

1033
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,840
fight of the night. I would agree with that. Anybody

1034
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,519
else that's different.

1035
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 2: In Is there anybody that would disagree with that?

1036
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would disagree with that. The classy alcoholic?

1037
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:24,239
Is there such a thing? Never thought I'd be interested

1038
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,320
in a Hainy Garcia rematch again, but here we are. Well,

1039
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,159
don't get too interested yet, because Ryan Garcia still has

1040
00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:33,920
another fight with Barrios, and we'll see what that looks

1041
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,760
like is Dan's reporting that's coming in February. I'm looking

1042
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,880
from my name here is what is this name? This

1043
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:44,199
is web I can't even remember. I can't even read

1044
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:49,000
all that webfoot Chicano, he says. Jim says. Jim Lampley

1045
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:52,519
has said multiple occasions he envisions Bena Vetas at heavyweight.

1046
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,239
Benavitez versus Usik is a super fight. Can we settle

1047
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,840
down that he's fighting at light heavyweight. We don't even

1048
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,119
know what he can do a cruiserweight. Can we settle

1049
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:03,480
down on having him fight Ousick.

1050
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that I want everybody to take a

1051
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:11,119
deep breath and understand something. And I'm not knocking Anthony Yard,

1052
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,840
but it was Anthony Yard. He didn't beat Roy Jones.

1053
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,599
He didn't beat Sad Mohammad. You know, he didn't beat

1054
00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:25,320
Bob Foster. Everybody, calm down, You didn't he didn't. He's

1055
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,880
got three fights at light heavyweight, three solid wins. Beat Vodzik,

1056
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,159
former champ, Legit, had an excellent fight with David Morrell,

1057
00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:35,159
who was a super midleweight who we beat. That was

1058
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,559
a great fight and a clear win. Now he has

1059
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:40,719
a solid victory against Anthony the Art and they're one

1060
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,199
to fight Alexander Usik. Now that said, could I see

1061
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,360
at you know, David right now is what twenty eight

1062
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,320
years old, you know, six or seven years from now,

1063
00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:52,800
maybe seem as a heavyweight. Yeah, I think that's absolutely

1064
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,679
a possibility. But I was in a Rusk's gonna be

1065
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,320
long retired in my opinion, before David Enemy's ever even

1066
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,480
sniffed heavyweight division.

1067
00:49:01,559 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: All right, Raimundo Marquez says Bam should be top five

1068
00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:08,599
pound per pound at worst. I would agree with that.

1069
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,320
You would agree with that, as we were saying earlier,

1070
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:14,400
and I don't know other than I.

1071
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: Might have him six.

1072
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,079
Speaker 1: But he says top top five, Well, who would you

1073
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,840
put besides you mentioned Crawford in a way, Uhsik, in

1074
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,440
whatever order, who would be the fourth and the fifth?

1075
00:49:26,519 --> 00:49:28,480
If not Bam, he's got to.

1076
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:31,639
Speaker 2: You probably could put dam in there, but you have

1077
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,119
to also take into considers. I still think better BF,

1078
00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:37,760
although little a little inactive at the moment, uh and

1079
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,320
coming off with the loss, but because it was against Bevall,

1080
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,000
it was against one of the very best out there. Uh,

1081
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,760
Bevo is going to be on that list also among

1082
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,239
those top five so I can still see the two

1083
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,639
light heavyweights ahead of Dan. I haven't really sat down

1084
00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:51,119
and thought.

1085
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,159
Speaker 1: Of part Maybe all right, maybe A hard liner says,

1086
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:56,039
I feel the pay per view delivered for the money

1087
00:49:56,079 --> 00:50:01,039
I paid. Amen on that. Who is who is this?

1088
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,519
This is night life one one one says, good evening, gentlemen.

1089
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:06,480
I'm sorry to ask, but can you settle a debate

1090
00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:08,639
I'm having with a friend, which is bigger Jake Paul

1091
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,239
versus Tank or Jake Paul versus A j.

1092
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 2: Joshua in the United What would you say to that?

1093
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:18,400
In the United States it's Tank.

1094
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: But in the UK. But in the UK it's Joshua,

1095
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,280
and Joshua was certainly the more accomplished fighter as a

1096
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:29,280
unified heavyweight champion. I'm saying that, Well, it's also here's

1097
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,360
the thing, Oh, absolutely absolutely.

1098
00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: It's an interesting question. Tank Davis fight was an exhibition

1099
00:50:35,559 --> 00:50:38,719
match between a two hundred pound or one hundred and

1100
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,719
ninety five pound contract weight Jake Paul against one hundred

1101
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,920
and thirty five pound Tank Davis. Who you know, maybe

1102
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,760
you would come in at one forty something. Most people

1103
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,880
would have thought that Tank would not have a chance

1104
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:53,559
in that fight because he's short, he's short armed, maybe

1105
00:50:53,639 --> 00:50:55,719
a good puncher in the lightweight division, but I don't

1106
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,199
you know, I don't know if his power is gonna

1107
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,159
be devastating against a two hundred pounder. And it was

1108
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,400
not even a real fight. Now the interest becomes Joshua

1109
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,559
coming off of the knockout loss and the surgery, but

1110
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,840
like a foot taller, you know, look literally like six

1111
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,599
or seven inches taller than Jake Paul, A much much,

1112
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,000
much much bigger puncher and a more accomplished fighter in

1113
00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:21,800
the professional ranks. I mean, honestly, I looked at the

1114
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:27,039
photos from their press commerce they had on Friday, and literally,

1115
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,800
there's a shot I saw in the photo gallery, you know,

1116
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,760
because we got a photo link from the promoters of

1117
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,159
you know, to use for articles and things where you

1118
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,360
have Jake Paul is literally and you watched the video. Also,

1119
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,639
Jake Paul's looking straight at He's looking like in the

1120
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,519
center of Anthony Joshua's chest and Joshua was looking down

1121
00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:44,920
at him. And there's a I saw on Twitter Jake

1122
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,079
Paul posts this. Uh, it was like a juxtaposition. The

1123
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:51,639
one photo was Rocky Balboa from the movie Rocky four

1124
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:54,960
looking up at Ivan Drago and the picture underneath it

1125
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,320
was the exact same thing, but it was the other

1126
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:01,719
where they were standing, and it was Anthony Joshua looking

1127
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,440
down on a much much smaller and shorter Uh yeah,

1128
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:09,880
so the thing. So yeah, it's a bigger fight with

1129
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,239
Joshua at that. For the very least, it's an actual

1130
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,119
official fight. You know, you can, we don't have to

1131
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,360
use the word real fight. But it's an official, sanctioned

1132
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,199
boxing match, and it's not a exhibition like it would

1133
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:23,280
have been against a tank fight. And I think most

1134
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,599
people and think that he's gonna knock Jake Paul out

1135
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,280
in one round and like, honestly, if it goes more

1136
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,480
than like two rounds, people are gonna think it's a

1137
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:32,360
it's a fix.

1138
00:52:34,159 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: All right, uh quickly a couple of others and then

1139
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,599
we're gone, what is this? I am all right? I

1140
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,880
am on the Hawkins Junior. He says, Happy Thanksgiving gents.

1141
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,719
Who was the biggest turkey of the night? Is that

1142
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:54,840
besides turkey Alischik? Who's not a Thanksgiving turkey? I'm at

1143
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,559
this point with the biggest turkey of the night might

1144
00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:02,559
have been It might have been Brian Norman at the

1145
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:04,760
end of the day, Brian Norman didn't do anything after

1146
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,960
he got knocked down. For sure.

1147
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:13,159
Speaker 2: I say the biggest turkey was definitely Puma Martinez, very

1148
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:14,719
disappointing before I got hammered.

1149
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: At least Brian hammered throughout the night.

1150
00:53:18,159 --> 00:53:20,199
Speaker 2: At least Brian Norman got off the deck and showed

1151
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,039
some balls to try to get back in the fight.

1152
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:24,480
And you know, never never stopped trying, even if he

1153
00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:27,599
was kind of outclassed a little bit. Martinez, I felt like,

1154
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:29,000
kind of gave up when you know, he just had

1155
00:53:29,079 --> 00:53:30,599
not he couldn't do anything with the guy. Yeah, his

1156
00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:31,599
body ling was just terrible.

1157
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: Didn't have anything on the punches. I would agree. Maybe

1158
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,000
he is the turkey of the night. All right. Again,

1159
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,280
for the fans on YouTube, thank you for being with

1160
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,320
us live. We did it exclusively on YouTube Saturday night.

1161
00:53:41,679 --> 00:53:43,960
Make sure you like and subscribe. We'll come back and

1162
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:47,000
do things like this great nostalgia on the YouTube. You

1163
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:52,159
heard from David Benavetez and from Abdullah Mason in separate

1164
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,760
interviews on this YouTube channel. You saw the video of both,

1165
00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:59,000
So be subscribe here and we'll have all kinds of

1166
00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:01,960
unique content here. Again, for the podcast audience. You've been

1167
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,239
hearing those interviews too. Audio wise, this is serving as

1168
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,079
the recap podcast, the Fight Freaks to Night recap podcast.

1169
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,800
Anything else in closing before we head to the Thanksgiving holiday,

1170
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,119
and you and I will be back right before Thanksgiving.

1171
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,960
We'll do something right before Thanksgiving. Anything else, Dan Rayfael

1172
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:20,639
on the Saturday night as we're live here.

1173
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,119
Speaker 2: We covered I think we covered everything. We even got

1174
00:54:23,159 --> 00:54:25,440
into Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua stuff. I enjoyed the

1175
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,760
show tonight. And now when we're done here, yeah, get

1176
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,000
back to writing my articles for my substacks. I hope

1177
00:54:31,039 --> 00:54:33,159
that everybody out there that's watching will go on Dan

1178
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,199
Rayfield dot substack dot com and check it out.

1179
00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: Great stuff here tonight. Thank you to the YouTube audience. Again,

1180
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,960
if you're watching us after the fact after it's live,

1181
00:54:43,159 --> 00:54:45,960
comment on the video down below that helps us out.

1182
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,400
There'll be some interaction with the comments. We thank you

1183
00:54:48,599 --> 00:54:51,519
to all the commenters who were watching Along the Way

1184
00:54:51,679 --> 00:54:54,320
live with us tonight and again on the pod audience,

1185
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,519
thank you for hanging in here with us on the

1186
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:59,280
podcast feed on Applespreaker, Spotify. If you didn't know that

1187
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,719
Dan and I have have the podcast Go find it

1188
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,800
Big Fight Weekend podcast Feed, Apple, Spreaker, Spotify. This served

1189
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,679
us both my friend, great job tonight. The night again

1190
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,000
belongs to David Benavitez in the main event defending his

1191
00:55:12,159 --> 00:55:16,239
light heavyweight title. Kudos also to Devin Haney winning the

1192
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:21,159
WBO welterweight championship by virtue of his easy decision win

1193
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,639
over Brian Norman. Bam Rodriguez again by me by means

1194
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:28,199
of recap, has won the three belts, now at one

1195
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,119
hundred and fifteen pounds with a knockout over Puma Martinez.

1196
00:55:31,159 --> 00:55:34,079
And how about Abdullah Mason who's now just twenty one

1197
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:37,000
years old and the youngest world champion in boxing. He

1198
00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:40,679
gets it done in the win tonight over Sam Noakes

1199
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:46,679
of England. Congratulations to Kim tonight as well. Other than that,

1200
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,920
I think we have done well. Thanks to everybody that

1201
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:52,599
has watched us I hear either live or after the

1202
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,079
fact and listened to on podcast. Dan, have a great

1203
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:57,840
rest of the weekend. We'll talk to you Thanksgiving week.

1204
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:00,559
Speaker 2: All right, t J. I appreciate it. Great job.

1205
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,679
Speaker 1: There is there is Dan Rayphiel. I'm merely TJ. Reeves

1206
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,559
out in Los Angeles. We'll see how my Buccaneers do

1207
00:56:06,599 --> 00:56:08,480
on Sunday Night Football. Dan, have a great weekend. Thank

1208
00:56:08,519 --> 00:56:11,760
you everybody for watching on the Big Fight Weekend YouTube

1209
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,159
page Live h m hmm.