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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get it start at the four o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>hour here on a Wednesday edition of Coffee and Company.

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<v Speaker 2>We are fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you are just not joining us, Austin he

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<v Speaker 2>came in and shared his story here in studio's. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I don't need to introduce Austin to you.

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<v Speaker 2>He guys, he's basically the guy we go to in

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<v Speaker 2>the bullpen when John is away for vacation or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it may be. He's not going to be here Monday

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<v Speaker 2>because he needs that recovery day from Louder than Life.

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<v Speaker 2>So Austin's gonna be with us producing the show on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>But he shared his story about being a part of

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<v Speaker 2>a jury in a case that went to trial, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with an armed robbery arrest, and that was not what

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<v Speaker 2>I was expecting. He was eighteen years old. And the

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<v Speaker 2>reason this all came up is because I'm waiting to

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<v Speaker 2>see if I'm going to be chosen among the jury

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<v Speaker 2>pool to actually, you know, if I'm needed to go

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<v Speaker 2>in and do my CIPIC duty and being part of

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<v Speaker 2>a of a jury trial, and I guess I'll find

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<v Speaker 2>out in the next week or so if I'm needed.

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<v Speaker 2>But Austin never looked into like what happened like with

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<v Speaker 2>the like after like once the guy was found guilty

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<v Speaker 2>because Austin and the rest of the jury decided that

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't think he was guilty. But when you are

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<v Speaker 2>a part of like it makes sense like that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how old Austin is now. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>do you know, John, he's a few years older than that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's like thirty ish right around there. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was like a week straight of the trial, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's really all you're doing, and you're conversing among I

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<v Speaker 2>guess the other jury members. So like it would make

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<v Speaker 2>sense that you would remember some specifics, especially because you're

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a heavy thing for anybody to deal with,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly an eighteen year old kid. But he remembered the

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<v Speaker 2>place that was robbed, he remembered the name of the

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<v Speaker 2>of the of the guy that was on trial, and

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<v Speaker 2>a quick Google search says that three years after the trial,

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<v Speaker 2>he was arrested and sent to prison for seventeen and

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<v Speaker 2>a half years because he reoffended and ended up getting

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<v Speaker 2>actually arrested and convicted for doing something they found him

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<v Speaker 2>guilty of, which probably means he was guilty when they

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<v Speaker 2>found him innocent, right, I mean, isn't that crazy? That

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<v Speaker 2>is crazy because it's just a reminder that, like you are,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna mean that's a heavy burden.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. I love how Austin was not afraid as an

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen year old to just say, come on, guys, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to come in here another day and do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it too, because that's Austin, Like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>know him, that's just that's kind of how he is,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's not afraid to be like I'll be the

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<v Speaker 2>one who says it, like, we don't want to do

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<v Speaker 2>this next week, do we, guys, Let's get the hell

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<v Speaker 2>out of here. So anyways, good stuff there. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>him stopping and and sharing that. I'm quite sure I

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<v Speaker 2>will not have a story like that. All right, So

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<v Speaker 2>before we get back into football here, let's talk real

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<v Speaker 2>quick about the Louisville basketball schedule, which was officially released

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<v Speaker 2>last night by the ACC Network. And again we've known

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<v Speaker 2>who Louisville's gonna be playing for quite some time. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>we know the order of opponents and whatnot. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to what we talked about yesterday, adding

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<v Speaker 2>Duke on December eighth just makes the first you know,

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<v Speaker 2>two months of Pat Kelsey's job here very very difficult

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<v Speaker 2>because you already have Tennessee, Ole Miss, Kentucky and then

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<v Speaker 2>everybody you're gonna potentially get in the Battle for In

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<v Speaker 2>the Battle of for Atlantis, Indiana's your opening game. You

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<v Speaker 2>could get Gonzaga, Arizona, West Virginia. We've all we've known

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<v Speaker 2>who who's out there. But having Duke there again, you

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<v Speaker 2>knew you were gonna play Duke anyway, but to have

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<v Speaker 2>them be the game. You're gonna play Duke five days

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<v Speaker 2>after you play Ole Miss, and then you get a

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<v Speaker 2>break with UTEP and then it's Kentucky. So just to

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<v Speaker 2>see again, keep in mind, like from November twenty seventh

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<v Speaker 2>until December fourteen, I mean, you've got anybody that you're

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<v Speaker 2>playing in the Battle of for Atlantis is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a legitimate team. Like even if if you get Davidson,

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<v Speaker 2>that's who it is, right, the kind of random team

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<v Speaker 2>and let's just say like Providence isn't good, although Kim

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<v Speaker 2>English I think has has a chance to be pretty

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<v Speaker 2>successful there. Like even though we even though we may

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<v Speaker 2>not be able to say, wow, that's a win, that's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna move you up a C line come March, it's

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<v Speaker 2>still not Winthrop. It's not morehead State. So like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting real competition early on. It's not to say that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody you play is going to be great. Who knows,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe one of these teams that's gonna be preseason ranked

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<v Speaker 2>ends up stinking. Who knows. But man, I just I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot remember looking at the first, you know, the first

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<v Speaker 2>six weeks or so of the schedule and just seeing

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<v Speaker 2>so many teams that, like, you know, you could play

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<v Speaker 2>well and still lose because those are good teams. And

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have it any other way. I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>to Terry before the show today, to them in the hallway,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, he and I are on the same

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<v Speaker 2>this is louisll basketball should always have schedules like this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just because you know, you're one of the

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<v Speaker 2>bigger programs in the sport. You certainly haven't been that

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<v Speaker 2>in a while, and last couple of years have been

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<v Speaker 2>something we never thought we'd see. But I really embrace it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm also not Pat Kelsey, whose you know, job

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<v Speaker 2>is to win games, and when you throw these kind

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<v Speaker 2>of challenges out there, it's gonna be difficult to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, it's it's it's really really tough. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just some some noticeable some takeaways for

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<v Speaker 2>me here that just seem odd. That you're gonna play

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<v Speaker 2>only two home games in the month of February. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a lot of traveling going on in February.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Miami at home on February eighth, and you've

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<v Speaker 2>got Florida State at home on February twenty second. Every

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<v Speaker 2>other game in February is on the road. Now, for

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<v Speaker 2>what it's worth, a lot of those games don't look

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<v Speaker 2>to be and by the way, this is I mean again,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not complaining because I think it's actually something that

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<v Speaker 2>could work out well for Louisville this year. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>good long term, but the ACC like I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech, Boston College, Wake Forest, SMU, Virginia, Miami, Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 2>Florida State, Virginia Tech, pitt Cal Stanford, like the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years. Those teams, Yeah, they weren't great, most

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<v Speaker 2>of them that I referenced there, But you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>clearly beat Louisville because Louisville was in a terrible place

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to just you know, you know who.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, I feel like Pat Kelsey's got the personnel

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<v Speaker 2>to where his teams could maybe have somewhat of an

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<v Speaker 2>off night and still be able to beat a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of those teams just because they're gonna have better players.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm way wrong there again, you never really know,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when you've got a brand new team with all

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<v Speaker 2>new guys that have ever played together before. But the

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<v Speaker 2>ACC again, just looking at the league schedule as a whole,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Duke's gonna be Duke. Carolina is gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of talent. I don't see them in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Their style of play always makes it tricky and weird,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've certainly been a thorn in our side for

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<v Speaker 2>many many years in the ACC. But let's be real,

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<v Speaker 2>since Tony Bennett won a national championship, he's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>been a chump. Like, they've not been good at all,

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<v Speaker 2>have they? Like I think they got one four seed

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<v Speaker 2>since then after they won a title and they lost

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<v Speaker 2>to Ohio in the first round. Like in fact, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure Virginia has won a game since the I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if Virginia has won a bast has won

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<v Speaker 2>an NCAA tournament game since they won the national championship.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure. I mean they got was it last

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<v Speaker 2>year the year before where they got into the play

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<v Speaker 2>in game and got demolished? I think that was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the last two years. Yeah, and I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was last year. So again, like the league schedule, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really look at it and think, oh, wow, we

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<v Speaker 2>really got screwed here, because honestly, there's so many teams

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<v Speaker 2>on the in the league right now that like it's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna And again it's a it's a negative when

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have a whole lot to gain by beating

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<v Speaker 2>teams that are mid at best. And it didn't used

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<v Speaker 2>to be like that in the ACC. Louisvill's first few

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<v Speaker 2>years in the ACC, it would be a rarity that

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<v Speaker 2>you would have a week where one of your two

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<v Speaker 2>games in that week did not give you an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to get a valuable win that could really improve you.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not really prove it, but like you could, you

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<v Speaker 2>could improve your resume, you know, it would probably you

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<v Speaker 2>need a win against like a top five team four

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<v Speaker 2>to be improved substantially. But like the ACC is just

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<v Speaker 2>not what it once was in basketball, and it's whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I hate when people, like I think people

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<v Speaker 2>bringing up n C State making the Final four despite

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<v Speaker 2>being a team that nearly lost to Louisville in the

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<v Speaker 2>a SEC tournament's first day, Like that doesn't mean the

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<v Speaker 2>league's good. I mean, like it does it, Like that's good,

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<v Speaker 2>good for them for playing well and going on a

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<v Speaker 2>hell of a run, But like that doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 2>the league was good, and anybody who hated on it

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<v Speaker 2>was wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, you're right about Virginia. They have not

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<v Speaker 3>won a tournament game since their championship.

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<v Speaker 2>So again I'm not acting like Louisville's gonna go into

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<v Speaker 2>Charlottesville on January fourth and and you know, ben Tony

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Bennett over but like they're not scary and the

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<v Speaker 2>only teams I would look at. And again maybe Miami

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<v Speaker 2>because they do well in the portal every year, Like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they bounced back in a major way. They went

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<v Speaker 2>from being a final four team two years ago to

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<v Speaker 2>being one of the most disappointing teams in the country

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<v Speaker 2>last year. As far as who they brought back and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Syracuse could take a step forward this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Pitt.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I actually think that Pitt's gonna go back

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<v Speaker 2>to being the pit of old. I think they had

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years there where Jeff Caple actually had

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<v Speaker 2>some good players, but those guys are gone. Florida State,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Leonard Hamilton. I saw somebody put together their

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<v Speaker 2>preseason ACC rankings that had Florida State like near dead last.

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<v Speaker 2>Leonard Hamilton. It might be time for him to hang

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<v Speaker 2>it up. Wake Forest I really like Steve Forbes, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think wake Forest could be really good this year.

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<v Speaker 2>They got good players like I wouldn't. If I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to go through and tell you who I think

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<v Speaker 2>are the top five teams in the ACC, I would

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<v Speaker 2>certainly have wake Forest up there. But really, like everybody else,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're beatable. Even if you don't think Louisville's great,

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<v Speaker 2>you can look at what those other teams are expected

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<v Speaker 2>to do as far as their personnel and whatnot, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, again it's not a good thing overall, but

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<v Speaker 2>it could give you a chance to maybe take some

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<v Speaker 2>lumps early on when you play the really good teams

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<v Speaker 2>in non conference play, and then if you're able to

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<v Speaker 2>finish in the top four in your league and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you get a win against maybe you get wins

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<v Speaker 2>against some of the other teams that look like tournament teams,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you can find yourself in the tournament.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's probably not an observation that that that others

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<v Speaker 2>made when looking at the schedule, But for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just looking at, you know, the league schedule because that's

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<v Speaker 2>what was added yesterday, and I'm thinking, Okay, Georgia Tech, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, David stottamar is there. Boston College, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're never good. Notre Dame. You know, we'll see if

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<v Speaker 2>their coach can can can really take a step forward

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<v Speaker 2>in his second year there. What is his name? I

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<v Speaker 2>always forget it. Shrewsbury, Yeah, Shrewsbury. So that stood out.

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<v Speaker 2>And then also I feel like Louisville has played Virginia

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<v Speaker 2>on Senior Day for like every year they've been in

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC. Instead this year it's going to be Stanford,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of kind of random.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also weird that you don't play any of You

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wonder if that's like travel related, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to assume so, and you're at home for

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<v Speaker 2>both of them, so it doesn't really matter, but it

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<v Speaker 2>probably is because like their travel right, like yeah, heck

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<v Speaker 2>they might travel together. That they're probably traveling together because

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<v Speaker 2>those games are in three days and three days apart.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that wouldn't shock me. So, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't as if yesterday's release was like a chance for

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<v Speaker 2>us to say, all right, let's see how good we

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<v Speaker 2>think we can be, because we've known who's on the

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<v Speaker 2>schedule for a while now. But I guess just visually

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<v Speaker 2>seeing it, you know, game by game one, it lets

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<v Speaker 2>you know we're getting closer to the season being here.

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<v Speaker 2>But I still think this is a team that from

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<v Speaker 2>a personnel standpoint, from the schedule and who they have

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<v Speaker 2>to go up against, I think expecting the NCAA tournament

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<v Speaker 2>in year one for Pat Kelsey is more than reasonable.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean that if they don't get it, then

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<v Speaker 2>we got a panic and worry. But I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is a team that certainly has the capability to be

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<v Speaker 2>competitive enough to get a spot in the tournament and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe get a decent seed. I mean, I know who

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<v Speaker 2>they played against in the Bahamas, and it was not

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<v Speaker 2>what you're gonna see night in and night out during

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<v Speaker 2>this season. But overall, you know, I still I still

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<v Speaker 2>think that that there's there was a lot to learn

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<v Speaker 2>from from from that experience in the Bahamas. Again, you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't prove anything as far as like a win against

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<v Speaker 2>this team or that team, because again it was exhibition games.

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<v Speaker 2>But I really am excited and again I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just gonna be, that's gonna be. My stance is

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<v Speaker 2>that I think making the NSAA Tournament is an expectation

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<v Speaker 2>we should not be afraid to throw out there. And

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<v Speaker 2>some people are thinking afraid to throw out there, Like

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<v Speaker 2>we're Louisville, and I get it, I hear you. At times,

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<v Speaker 2>I find myself saying, what do you mean you hear

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<v Speaker 2>yourself You're a Louisville basketball fan and you're saying they

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<v Speaker 2>should just make the tournament, you loser, like, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>also having to remind myself, like where we've been recently,

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<v Speaker 2>like it you know, and again that has nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>do with this current situation because it's all brand new.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's also the reason why I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at minimum, the tournament and Pat Kelsey would be disappointed

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<v Speaker 2>in if we were thinking, well, you know, we'll see,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they'll make the tournament. But I'm just hoping they

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<v Speaker 2>can be competitive and win more games than Kenny Payne did. Like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>he's embracing this, and you know, I think he'll put

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<v Speaker 2>him in the tournament this year. All right, it's Coffee

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<v Speaker 2>Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety I started the show

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<v Speaker 2>today talk talking about those that are wagering on this

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville Notre Dame game, how they're all not only picking

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame to cover six points. Well, the money, like

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<v Speaker 2>in on this matchup, as far as the spread is

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<v Speaker 2>on Notre Dame to not only win but cover six

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit closer, but fifty eight percent have the

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<v Speaker 2>to think to myself, am I getting too fired up

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<v Speaker 2>here for Louisville? Am I maybe overestimating this team at

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<v Speaker 2>this point? Because I don't know, if anybody's going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that, it'd be like the shocker of the

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<v Speaker 2>world because it wouldn't be here. Let's be honest here, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like it would be a oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of the bigger upsets of the college

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<v Speaker 2>football season. But you know, louis beat them last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville has this point, I think, well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe this is the hold up for me. I

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<v Speaker 2>was getting ready to say, you know, Louisville's shown to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe objectively those are still waiting to see because

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<v Speaker 2>against Georgia Tech they didn't look great. I was impressed

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<v Speaker 2>with the way they were able to make the plays necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that they got a block field goal

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<v Speaker 2>because of luck. I don't think they got a defensive

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown because of luck or fluke. I think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, making plays when a team gives you a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to take advantage of their mistakes, you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's the way I I mean, that's that's the

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<v Speaker 2>way I look at it. But again, I know not

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<v Speaker 2>everybody you know probably sees it the same way. So

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<v Speaker 2>after talking about that in the three o'clock hour. The

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<v Speaker 2>the text line had a text from somebody that sent

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<v Speaker 2>me a link to a tweet that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>that I wanted to to play for you guys, because

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<v Speaker 2>there's one analyst who happens to think that Louisville is

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<v Speaker 5>And here is what he Here's what he had to say,

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<v Speaker 5>the wrong team's favorite here, this should be Louisville favored.

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<v Speaker 5>Jeff Brahm said it exactly right. If you couldn't get

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<v Speaker 5>Notre Dame behind and forced Riley Leonard into having the throw.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was strong, just a little bit of goo

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<v Speaker 5>saying that he can't throw. He certainly can, but he

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<v Speaker 5>is inconsistent, missing a lot of wide open guys. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know if it's a matter of still injured or

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<v Speaker 5>what have you, but if they're going to be that

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<v Speaker 5>inconsistent with the forward pass, it's incumbent upon Louisville to

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<v Speaker 5>get a lead. And I think defensively they're good enough

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<v Speaker 5>and Shuck's good enough for that to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking the Cardinals. So you know that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>that Louisville's going to be the team that wins just

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<v Speaker 2>because of that comment, but you know, it does make

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<v Speaker 2>me feel a little bit more justified in my belief that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this this this is a game Louisville. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to say that they should win, and if

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<v Speaker 2>they don't, it's going to be a big disappointment. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>not many teams, even though Northern Illinois just did it,

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<v Speaker 2>Not many teams do go into South Bend and win.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think this Louisville team can. I think Jef

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<v Speaker 2>Brom's going to have his guys ready to play, and

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<v Speaker 2>to be celebrating another big victory over the Irish. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>How are we doing Larry, you feeling good today.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm feeling great, and it's a big week with you know,

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<v Speaker 6>obviously the big game Saturday and all the things going

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<v Speaker 6>on in the other sports as well, so exciting times.

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<v Speaker 2>So what would be you know, what would be one

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<v Speaker 2>one thing you would tell those fans going up to

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<v Speaker 2>South Bend to make sure an experience while they're other

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<v Speaker 2>than just you know, the game itself. I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>earlier with Alex Kupper, and I feel like Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a lot of a lot of stadiums

421
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<v Speaker 2>and environments in college football that are bucket list type things,

422
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<v Speaker 2>but I think Notre Dame is the rare, the rare

423
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<v Speaker 2>stadium and experience that you'll see fans go even if

424
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<v Speaker 2>their team's not playing, just because it's Notre Dame. It's

425
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<v Speaker 2>South Bend, so I know you've been before, I've been before.

426
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<v Speaker 2>We're not for a football game. What would you what's

427
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<v Speaker 2>the best selling point other than just you know, the

428
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<v Speaker 2>history and the environment.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think that is the best selling environment.

430
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<v Speaker 6>It is a very traditional stadium, not a lot of pizazz,

431
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<v Speaker 6>but an incredible amount of history and tradition. On the

432
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<v Speaker 6>negative side of things, it's a hot mess in terms

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<v Speaker 6>of traffic and where to tailgates and all the things

434
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<v Speaker 6>surround it. Remember, South Bend is effectively a college town

435
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<v Speaker 6>and you're trying to squeeze an enormous amount of people

436
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<v Speaker 6>into a small amount of space. And even though they've

437
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<v Speaker 6>been doing it for what one hundred plus years, the

438
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<v Speaker 6>traffic patterns and the other things around it will remind

439
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<v Speaker 6>you of a really bad Derby or Oaks day if

440
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<v Speaker 6>things go awry. But on the positive high side, there

441
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<v Speaker 6>are plenty of areas to tailgate and in sections, so

442
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<v Speaker 6>it's not like one big golf course or one big

443
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<v Speaker 6>parking lot like.

444
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<v Speaker 4>You know, we have the ability at a great stadium like.

445
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<v Speaker 6>We have, so expect various entities of tailgating and expect delay.

446
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<v Speaker 6>So if getting there early is a good idea that

447
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<v Speaker 6>allow you to wander around and have some fun. But

448
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<v Speaker 6>the stadium itself is absolutely terrific, and their fans are

449
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<v Speaker 6>real football fans and there's a lot we can learn

450
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<v Speaker 6>from them, and they're typically kind and hospitable, so you know,

451
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<v Speaker 6>expect to have a good time and be around some

452
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<v Speaker 6>really good football people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's I don't want to say It's rare

454
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<v Speaker 2>for them to look at Louisville as a big game

455
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<v Speaker 2>and a big opportunity. When they came to town last year,

456
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<v Speaker 2>it was a match up against ranked teams, and Louisvell's

457
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<v Speaker 2>beat them a couple of times in this series. Now,

458
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<v Speaker 2>but you could tell I can just get the sense

459
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<v Speaker 2>that they realize, you know, this is an opportunity for

460
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<v Speaker 2>them to get a top fifteen victory and really kind

461
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<v Speaker 2>of let people know that Niu was a fluke. There's

462
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<v Speaker 2>added excitement for me knowing that this is a big

463
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<v Speaker 2>game for them as well. So, yeah, I've now been

464
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<v Speaker 2>this excited for a game in quite some time. And

465
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<v Speaker 2>one player that we may see may not. There's actually

466
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<v Speaker 2>a few guys that are listed as game time decisions.

467
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<v Speaker 2>But Colin Lacey. We talked about him shortly after he

468
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<v Speaker 2>had that collarbone injury that took place about six weeks

469
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry about five weeks ago, and now it sounds

470
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<v Speaker 2>like he's getting closer to being able to play. Timeline

471
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<v Speaker 2>here again. I guess we'll find out around kickoff he's

472
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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to go. But as far as

473
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<v Speaker 2>like the timeline is, this is this kind of on

474
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<v Speaker 2>pace with what you would have expected when the injury occurred.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, it absolutely is. It's interesting because this week

476
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<v Speaker 6>is sort of the you know, right at the precipice

477
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<v Speaker 6>of his healing, and from what I understand, he has

478
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<v Speaker 6>been doing some practicing and patterns that's much different than

479
00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:51.880
<v Speaker 6>contact though, and so it will be a game time decision.

480
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<v Speaker 6>I'll come down to the sports medicine staff in conjunction

481
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<v Speaker 6>with you know, the coaches, and whether they believe he's

482
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<v Speaker 6>ready to go, just from both a physical and mental standpoint,

483
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<v Speaker 6>But it would be we need them and it would

484
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<v Speaker 6>be incredibly exciting if he's healthy enough to play.

485
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<v Speaker 2>You may not know the answer to this, but I'm

486
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<v Speaker 2>just curious when it comes to the game time decision,

487
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<v Speaker 2>it's not literally, or maybe it is literally as soon

488
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<v Speaker 2>as the game starts, the trainers give the coaches the

489
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<v Speaker 2>word or but sometimes you see guys not fully dressed

490
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<v Speaker 2>out a little bit before. How I mean, I'm sure

491
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<v Speaker 2>it varies depending upon the injury, and maybe it varies

492
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<v Speaker 2>depending upon the coaching staff and training staff. But when

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<v Speaker 2>do you think players typically get the indication if they're

494
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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to go or not. And I

495
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<v Speaker 2>guess sometimes it is their decision. But when others are

496
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<v Speaker 2>really involved in that, I mean, how close do they

497
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<v Speaker 2>get to the wire?

498
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<v Speaker 6>No, it's a great question, and it really comes down

499
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<v Speaker 6>it starts a game prep. And so if you believe

500
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<v Speaker 6>that you know, Colin Lacy's going to have a chance

501
00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:51.680
<v Speaker 6>to play, you're going to prep with some you know,

502
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<v Speaker 6>various different configurations and such that will allow you know,

503
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<v Speaker 6>him to you know, play whatever number. And now let's

504
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<v Speaker 6>just say he's going to play you know, three or

505
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<v Speaker 6>four special situations. Then as the week goes on, you know,

506
00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:09.680
<v Speaker 6>you assess that in conjunction with the physicians, and you know,

507
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<v Speaker 6>first is is the is the fracture healed? Is all

508
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<v Speaker 6>that you know from a technical medical standpoint go in

509
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<v Speaker 6>the right direction. But you also have this year, you know,

510
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<v Speaker 6>the NC double A has got sort of you know,

511
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<v Speaker 6>this questionable list that you know, NFL has been adamant

512
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<v Speaker 6>about for a number of years. So I think you

513
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<v Speaker 6>have to look there first, and then you have to

514
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<v Speaker 6>make an assumption that if there's odds are heavy that

515
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<v Speaker 6>he's going to play, you know, they're certainly going to

516
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<v Speaker 6>have some sets in some plays designed for him, whether

517
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<v Speaker 6>it's a few plays or whether it's the whole game

518
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<v Speaker 6>is a big difference. It comes down to game prep.

519
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<v Speaker 6>But you can be rest assured that by this time

520
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<v Speaker 6>on a Wednesday, it probably got a pretty good idea

521
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<v Speaker 6>how much he's going to play, if at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Lorry Ben's and Proria Physical Therapies are guest joining

523
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<v Speaker 2>us here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 2>You sent me this over the weekend, and I got

526
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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you. It's one of those things

527
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<v Speaker 2>that has interested me more than I would have expected,

528
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<v Speaker 2>and that is the rabdough Am I saying that?

529
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<v Speaker 4>Right? Yes you are. We'll call it rabdo obsolutely.

530
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<v Speaker 2>That Okay, you said it you. I think the way

531
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<v Speaker 2>you said it was how I would have said it,

532
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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't want to make a fool of myself.

533
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<v Speaker 2>I was going to let you help me before I

534
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:24.920
<v Speaker 2>walked into that. But this is an injury where a

535
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<v Speaker 2>person's muscles breakdown, and this just seems this is very

536
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<v Speaker 2>scary and serious. Twelve lacrosse players at Tufts University have

537
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<v Speaker 2>been diagnosed with this rare muscle injury and it's it's

538
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<v Speaker 2>after going through some pretty intense training and whatnot. I mean,

539
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<v Speaker 2>this is scary.

540
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<v Speaker 6>It absolutely is there's a lot of teaching and take

541
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<v Speaker 6>home points here. So let's unpack this a bit and

542
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<v Speaker 6>I'll actually start backwards. Many years ago. The NCAA used

543
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<v Speaker 6>to allow freshmen and early admits to come in a

544
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<v Speaker 6>few days to what was it, I think at the time,

545
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<v Speaker 6>maybe even two weeks early for preseason training. Of course,

546
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<v Speaker 6>now they come in the spring and there's year round

547
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<v Speaker 6>training and the whole, you know, everything has sort of changed,

548
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<v Speaker 6>the whole narratives change. But the reason they did is

549
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<v Speaker 6>so that you can get progressive increases in both physical

550
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<v Speaker 6>conditioning and mental toughness.

551
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<v Speaker 4>Now though today these.

552
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<v Speaker 6>Athletes are coming in there and they're already in very

553
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<v Speaker 6>very good shape, but if you do too much too soon,

554
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<v Speaker 6>you could literally break down your muscle fibers. And when

555
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:33.279
<v Speaker 6>that happens, technically this milglobe, it gets into your bloodstream

556
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<v Speaker 6>and that can cause all kinds of kidney and other

557
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<v Speaker 6>kind of damages. Now, the tough situation is really negligence

558
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<v Speaker 6>in my opinion, because what you had was a Navy

559
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<v Speaker 6>seal that apparently had been a lacrosse player who took

560
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<v Speaker 6>these lacrosse players out and instead of delivering, you know,

561
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<v Speaker 6>a good workout, he tried to mix mental toughness with

562
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<v Speaker 6>an over the top, you know, physical activity of an

563
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<v Speaker 6>extreme on top of that, from what I understand, was

564
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:04.440
<v Speaker 6>very hot and humid, so you had all of these

565
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:08.480
<v Speaker 6>conditions working against you, like dehydration and heat, stress and

566
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<v Speaker 6>other kinds of things.

567
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<v Speaker 4>And what happened.

568
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<v Speaker 6>Many of them got hospitalized. Some of them are still

569
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<v Speaker 6>in the hospital. When you start breaking down muscle, it

570
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<v Speaker 6>not only shows you that you did too much, but

571
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<v Speaker 6>it could literally mean the seriousness of being able to

572
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<v Speaker 6>recover from it in a very very short period of time.

573
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<v Speaker 6>I was in the military, as you well know, and

574
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<v Speaker 6>we would get basic trainees who hadn't done anything for

575
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<v Speaker 6>a long time, and they would work them out too hard,

576
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<v Speaker 6>and they would get rabdo very very serious condition, usually

577
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<v Speaker 6>end up getting hospitalized, and you have all kinds of

578
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<v Speaker 6>weakness and pain.

579
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<v Speaker 4>This is a difficult one.

580
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<v Speaker 6>And the one teaching point that I mentioned to some

581
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<v Speaker 6>coaches who've called me about this is that mental toughness

582
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<v Speaker 6>has to be built over a period of time. You

583
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<v Speaker 6>can't have a Navy seal come in and teach that

584
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<v Speaker 6>at one workout.

585
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<v Speaker 2>Just like it's clearly dangerous, right, I mean.

586
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<v Speaker 6>It's absolutely, absolutely yeah, and their yearine gets very dark

587
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.759
<v Speaker 6>and it is it's really an emergency situation, and so

588
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:13.279
<v Speaker 6>you're going to see all.

589
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:15.440
<v Speaker 4>Kinds of things going on here. These are very bright,

590
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:18.400
<v Speaker 4>good athletes, a toughs Toffs, has an excellent lacrosse.

591
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:20.599
<v Speaker 6>Program and how this got away from them like that

592
00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:24.960
<v Speaker 6>is just really really surprising and unfortunate. And the other

593
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<v Speaker 6>lesson here is just you can't do too much too

594
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<v Speaker 6>soon for somebody who's been physically inactive. We've had football

595
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<v Speaker 6>players at u have all over the years who very

596
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<v Speaker 6>early in the course of training had an early enough

597
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<v Speaker 6>sign of rahabdo analysis that the coaches and the trainers

598
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:43.400
<v Speaker 6>took them out so that didn't develop into more serious

599
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:46.400
<v Speaker 6>and you monitor it through year analysis, you monitor it

600
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:51.079
<v Speaker 6>through the symptoms that the athletes have. And fortunately in

601
00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:54.440
<v Speaker 6>today's day, you don't get much of this. So for

602
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.920
<v Speaker 6>this to happen at Tufts and in New England areas

603
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<v Speaker 6>just tragic.

604
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<v Speaker 1>It is.

605
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's twelve of these athletes who were participating

606
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<v Speaker 2>in what was called a voluntary workout, and for twelve

607
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<v Speaker 2>of them to have have this happen, I mean, I'm

608
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<v Speaker 2>just I'm trying to visualize just how brutal it must

609
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:14.720
<v Speaker 2>have been. And you know we weren't there. I didn't

610
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<v Speaker 2>see it, but just I can imagine they were probably

611
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:21.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, pressured and you know, guilted into not to

612
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>not you know, realizing, hey, this is just too much

613
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.400
<v Speaker 2>for me and it's cost some serious David. It's very scary.

614
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<v Speaker 2>And the last thing you just said there was actually

615
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<v Speaker 2>gonna be. The next question is that it's rare to

616
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<v Speaker 2>see now just because it's a well known thing that

617
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<v Speaker 2>can happen. I mean, it's just it's it's reckless to

618
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:38.440
<v Speaker 2>be in this position. So very scary, no doubt. One

619
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<v Speaker 2>other injury I wanted to ask you about that. I

620
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<v Speaker 2>don't know if we have any kind of an update,

621
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<v Speaker 2>but Christian McCaffrey he flew to Germany over the weekend

622
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<v Speaker 2>to visit a specialist about his persistent achilles issue that

623
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<v Speaker 2>he has. When you hear of athletes that do make

624
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<v Speaker 2>a trip, you know, to another country to see a specialist,

625
00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:57.720
<v Speaker 2>and I guess, you know, it all depends on the

626
00:29:57.799 --> 00:29:59.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, they are all kinds of specialists all across

627
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:03.880
<v Speaker 2>the that obviously, you know that can specialize in certain injuries.

628
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<v Speaker 2>But niners, fans, people who have McCaffrey on their team

629
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<v Speaker 2>when they see this in worry, Uh oh, he must

630
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<v Speaker 2>not be able to get good info here. He's going

631
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<v Speaker 2>to travel anywhere to try to get somebody to tell

632
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<v Speaker 2>him how he can get healthy. Is that accurate or

633
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<v Speaker 2>is this just a guy having the ability to quite

634
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<v Speaker 2>literally utilize resources anywhere that most of us wouldn't be

635
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<v Speaker 2>able to.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's actually kind of a combination of all the above.

637
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<v Speaker 6>I mean very seldom. You know, the United States has

638
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<v Speaker 6>the best sports medicine treatments in the world by fire

639
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.039
<v Speaker 6>bar nine. Now that doesn't mean there aren't some things

640
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<v Speaker 6>they're doing in Germany and in the old days they

641
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:40.599
<v Speaker 6>used to talk about this in the Soviet Union, it

642
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<v Speaker 6>might be a little bit more experimental, whether or not

643
00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:46.279
<v Speaker 6>they're legal or not in the US, it's to be determined. So,

644
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:51.519
<v Speaker 6>for example, you know, injections, taking your plasma, regenerating it

645
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:53.839
<v Speaker 6>or adding you know, spinning it so that you can

646
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:56.279
<v Speaker 6>get more red blood cells and then injecting it is

647
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 6>a technique PRP. It's used in every sports medicine facility.

648
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<v Speaker 6>Now what's happened is the sophistication of lab results coupled

649
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:09.880
<v Speaker 6>with you know, research is showing different versions of that

650
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:13.440
<v Speaker 6>PRP technique. And my guess is based on what I

651
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:16.559
<v Speaker 6>know what they're doing in Germany. That's where he went

652
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:19.880
<v Speaker 6>to get a consultant. If you remember, we've seen this before.

653
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<v Speaker 6>You had Aaron Rodgers last year when he had the

654
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:23.720
<v Speaker 6>Achilles injury. He was going to have some kind of

655
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:25.480
<v Speaker 6>surgery that was going to allow him to come back

656
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 6>in three weeks. And obviously that didn't turn out. That

657
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:32.000
<v Speaker 6>didn't turn out the right way for him. But it's

658
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<v Speaker 6>not unusual.

659
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 4>But you're exactly right.

660
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:38.519
<v Speaker 6>He's got unlimited resources, and you know that's that's my

661
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:40.559
<v Speaker 6>guess is what they were looking at as some type

662
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:45.559
<v Speaker 6>of injection technique to facilitate heating. It's unfortunate, you can't,

663
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.440
<v Speaker 6>you can't overcome mother nature. You can facilitate healing a

664
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:51.480
<v Speaker 6>little bit better. But he's got a pretty bad injury.

665
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:54.000
<v Speaker 6>And it sounds like Russell Willis, you know Russell Wilson

666
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:57.960
<v Speaker 6>where the Steelers has something similar to be honest, because

667
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:01.000
<v Speaker 6>he seems like he is more in the calf I think,

668
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:04.359
<v Speaker 6>but he hasn't played in a while and that's allowed

669
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:09.319
<v Speaker 6>them to really accelerate. Justin Fields's play, which has been terrific.

670
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think the injuries that we're seeing, as

671
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<v Speaker 2>far as the amount of them, I don't have numbers

672
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>in front of me, but I would assume it's probably

673
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:19.079
<v Speaker 2>not that different than what you typically see a few

674
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 2>weeks into the season. But I definitely feel as if

675
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:23.039
<v Speaker 2>some of the bigger names in the league are dealing

676
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>with injuries right now, and I think that's been somewhat

677
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:26.839
<v Speaker 2>of a factor in while the product on the field

678
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:29.400
<v Speaker 2>just hasn't been maybe what people expected, but in the

679
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:31.960
<v Speaker 2>sports medicine world, I mean, has that been a I again,

680
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:34.519
<v Speaker 2>guys are always gonna get hurt, that's part of it.

681
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.640
<v Speaker 2>But I do feel like the stars of the game

682
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:40.480
<v Speaker 2>are dealing with things a little earlier than we typically see.

683
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree with that. I think what's happened is

684
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:45.880
<v Speaker 4>if they have any nagging.

685
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:47.720
<v Speaker 6>Injury, they tend not to play in the preseason, and

686
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.640
<v Speaker 6>so they'll use the first or second game to get

687
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.799
<v Speaker 6>more reps. I mean, we saw this with Aaron Rodgers,

688
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.680
<v Speaker 6>we saw it with Deshaun Watson against Dallas in that

689
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.039
<v Speaker 6>opening week, and you're seeing it with a lot of

690
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.359
<v Speaker 6>these others that just don't get the reps in the preseason.

691
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<v Speaker 6>I think that's a little bit unfortunate. Does that contribute

692
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:05.920
<v Speaker 6>to higher injury rates?

693
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:06.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

694
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.680
<v Speaker 6>It seems like we're off to a bad year though statistically,

695
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 6>you know the data that I looked at recently, you know,

696
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.839
<v Speaker 6>so it's just pretty consistent for the last few years.

697
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 6>But as you want to football's a violent sport. These

698
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:23.480
<v Speaker 6>guys are fast there they strength and acceleration, all hitting

699
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 6>at one time, and you know, it's no wonder you

700
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:26.799
<v Speaker 6>get so many injuries.

701
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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Ben's as always, we appreciate your time, enjoy South Bend,

702
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:33.519
<v Speaker 2>and I'm confident that you and the Cards are going

703
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:34.759
<v Speaker 2>to bring back a victory for us.

704
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 6>Me too, We've done awfully well there, even the year

705
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 6>we lost what was it like six and nothing during

706
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Speaker 6>that Yeah, there were only students were allowed, but we

707
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 6>went there under really tough conditions, uh winded with Reggie

708
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:49.599
<v Speaker 6>Bofan and yes and and uh you know that was

709
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.440
<v Speaker 6>that was a great win for us. So I'm expecting

710
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.119
<v Speaker 6>big things and uh looking forward to a victory.

711
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Cards Cars, take care, Larry. It's doctor Larry Ben's pro

712
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:03.599
<v Speaker 2>rep is therapy good stuff there. We I mean, I

713
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:07.200
<v Speaker 2>can't think of it the game that Louisville lost badly

714
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:11.480
<v Speaker 2>to Notre Dame when Sadderfield had his opener. I mean,

715
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.440
<v Speaker 2>it got away a little later, but like that was

716
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:16.880
<v Speaker 2>still a good game until towards the end. I mean,

717
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.440
<v Speaker 2>it was certainly a moral victory situation for louisvill because

718
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:20.960
<v Speaker 2>we were coming off of a two to ten season.

719
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:24.199
<v Speaker 2>But yes, the Cards have been competitive against the Irish

720
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 2>every time they've played, and I see no reason why

721
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:28.920
<v Speaker 2>they won't be the case. In fact, John, if it's

722
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 2>not competitive, it's because Louisville's blowing them out.

723
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you.

724
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try to speak that into existence. Quick break,

725
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:36.280
<v Speaker 2>don't go anywhere, keep a locked right here on Sports

726
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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety. Not much time left here in the

727
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 2>four o'clock hour, but a lot to get to in

728
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the five o'clock hour. I'll set the table here in

729
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:46.800
<v Speaker 2>a moment before we get to the next break. But

730
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<v Speaker 2>just some numbers that once again just tell you about

731
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:55.199
<v Speaker 2>the dominant run that Nick Saban had in college football.

732
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<v Speaker 2>We talked yesterday about how this is the first time

733
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:00.719
<v Speaker 2>that Alabama is a home dog since two thousand in seven.

734
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's insane, but not really surprising when you know,

735
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>when you look at how how successful Bama was during

736
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:09.840
<v Speaker 2>that time, and they're probably still gonna be very successful

737
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>with their new regime. But here's another thing that just

738
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:15.760
<v Speaker 2>makes it quite clear. Saban is I think the best,

739
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:17.519
<v Speaker 2>certainly one of the best in the eyes of I

740
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:21.119
<v Speaker 2>would say just about anybody. Right now, five of the

741
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:26.639
<v Speaker 2>top eight ranked teams are led by coaches who worked

742
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>for Nick Saban. Lank Texas Steve Sarkisian obviously that was

743
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:34.320
<v Speaker 2>more of like a you know, rehab kind of thing

744
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:36.280
<v Speaker 2>for him. Nope, not making a joke there, but like

745
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.719
<v Speaker 2>he went to be a coordinator for Saban because he

746
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:43.440
<v Speaker 2>had some personal issues. But still, I'm sure he would

747
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.400
<v Speaker 2>tell you one of the reasons, one of the many

748
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.199
<v Speaker 2>reasons why he's having such success at Texas is because

749
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 2>he learned a lot from the legendary Nick Saban. Kirby Smart,

750
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:54.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he worked for him forever before he got

751
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:57.880
<v Speaker 2>the job at Georgia, Lane Kiffin at Ole, Miss Mario

752
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Christobal at Miami, Dan Landing at Oregon. I mean, I've

753
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:08.519
<v Speaker 2>always felt like one of the best real signs of

754
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:10.199
<v Speaker 2>how great a coach is. And there's a lot I

755
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 2>mean winning is the ultimate thing, right like winning is

756
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.960
<v Speaker 2>is absolutely how you're viewed as a coach. But a

757
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:19.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of coaches win, and I think one of the

758
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:21.679
<v Speaker 2>things you could at times look at to see again

759
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:25.440
<v Speaker 2>but again, accomplishments trump, all right, But if you've got

760
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>a really really good coaching tree, guys who are really successful,

761
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:32.599
<v Speaker 2>they become your peers that learned from you. That that's

762
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 2>a really really impressive thing for you as a coach,

763
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.719
<v Speaker 2>because you're not just coaching and winning. You're coaching coaches

764
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:42.760
<v Speaker 2>and they're taking your tools, your tutelage, if you will,

765
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:45.360
<v Speaker 2>and they're having a lot of success. I mean, that's

766
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:49.360
<v Speaker 2>why you can't really say it as much now. I mean,

767
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>some guys are still having success, but like Rick Bettino

768
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.800
<v Speaker 2>had an unbelievable coaching tree still does. But again I

769
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:57.199
<v Speaker 2>think you know, some of these guys they kind of

770
00:36:57.239 --> 00:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>had their run where they were on top, and maybe

771
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.119
<v Speaker 2>now they don't have as much moreenty them. But I

772
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.719
<v Speaker 2>mean that always stood out to me that like Rick Patino,

773
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:06.239
<v Speaker 2>you look at a lot of guys who worked for

774
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:07.840
<v Speaker 2>him that went on to have I mean, Kevin Keats

775
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 2>last year, I mean, I don't know, he's an elite coach.

776
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:11.559
<v Speaker 2>I love Keats. I think he's a great coach, but

777
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:14.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, he was able to guide a team that's

778
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:16.760
<v Speaker 2>stunk to a Final four. And I don't know how

779
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.519
<v Speaker 2>much of that was coaching, but certainly it was a factor.

780
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Right.

781
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:21.800
<v Speaker 2>You know who else is part of the Nick Saban

782
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:22.360
<v Speaker 2>coaching tree?

783
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:25.639
<v Speaker 3>Is it your guy? It's Kurt Signetti. Really it was

784
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:27.480
<v Speaker 3>on his original staff at Alabama.

785
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:28.719
<v Speaker 2>I did not know that how many years.

786
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.360
<v Speaker 3>I think just a year or two still moving on

787
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:33.119
<v Speaker 3>to NC State, I believe, But yeah, he was on

788
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:34.440
<v Speaker 3>original staff and.

789
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:38.239
<v Speaker 2>That it still counts, you know. So I mean, and

790
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying again this isn't a uk UK versue

791
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:43.400
<v Speaker 2>of l thing, but like again, you are, you were

792
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:48.639
<v Speaker 2>viewed by how how much you accomplish. Like nobody's going

793
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 2>to say, well, hey, if I'm going to determine who's

794
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.920
<v Speaker 2>who's better, let's go see how their assistance did when

795
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.679
<v Speaker 2>they got jobs. But what do people say about John Caliperry.

796
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 2>It's all based off talent, right, He's not a ball

797
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:01.559
<v Speaker 2>coach coach, no x's and o's. He just rolls the

798
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.480
<v Speaker 2>ball out there. And lately, in the last few years

799
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.119
<v Speaker 2>at Kentucky. It seemed like he I mean seemed like

800
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.039
<v Speaker 2>he was just refusing to accept that the game had

801
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:13.519
<v Speaker 2>changed and refusing to adjust what he wanted to do

802
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.119
<v Speaker 2>on the floor schematically based off talent. Like the fact

803
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:18.800
<v Speaker 2>that he didn't have Reed Shepherd, Rob Dillingham and Antonio

804
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Reeves on the floor together for the majority of every

805
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.280
<v Speaker 2>single game is a crime. I mean, I loved it

806
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:25.800
<v Speaker 2>because it led to them losing to Oakland, but you know,

807
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:30.199
<v Speaker 2>like it's just him being stubborn. But one thing that

808
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:36.079
<v Speaker 2>I think has always supported the notion that Cali Perry

809
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:38.519
<v Speaker 2>really isn't a great coach. He just he's able to

810
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:43.320
<v Speaker 2>manage talent and it's just all player based. Now, I

811
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:45.280
<v Speaker 2>would give him credit. He can prop up a freshman

812
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 2>better than most. It's not really where the game is anymore.

813
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:49.760
<v Speaker 2>But I do think that you take a lot of

814
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.159
<v Speaker 2>the star freshmen that didn't have a lot of veterans

815
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:54.400
<v Speaker 2>with their teams. Now, his best teams did have veteran presence,

816
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:56.599
<v Speaker 2>and you know, nobody seems to remember that when they

817
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:58.559
<v Speaker 2>won a championship in twenty twelve, they had a lot

818
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:00.039
<v Speaker 2>of veterans on that team that were really good. But

819
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:03.159
<v Speaker 2>now their stars were Davis and kid Gilchrist. But nonetheless

820
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Cala Perry's never produced a successful assistant coach. His coaching

821
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:11.159
<v Speaker 2>tree is awful. I mean, and I'm not even making

822
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:13.239
<v Speaker 2>the Kenny Payne joke here, Like I honestly wasn't even

823
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:15.880
<v Speaker 2>thinking about Kenny Payne because people have been dogging Cali

824
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Perry's coaching tree before Kenny Payne got a head coaching

825
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:24.079
<v Speaker 2>job Orlando, and Tiqua was terrible at South Florida. Bruiser

826
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:28.599
<v Speaker 2>Flint stinks, Tony Barbie stinks, and I shouldn't be mean.

827
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they don't stink as human beings, but like

828
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:33.199
<v Speaker 2>that's a guy who for a while was viewed as

829
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>one of the best in the game, and like anytime

830
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:38.000
<v Speaker 2>an assistant got a chance to go lead a program,

831
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:41.719
<v Speaker 2>it was terrible. So anyway, Saban, back to Saban, I

832
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 2>mean another we could probably do a show every day

833
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and give you some wild fact in stat about Nick

834
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Saban that'll let you know he's the best in my opinion,

835
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:51.239
<v Speaker 2>certainly one of the best by just about everybody. I

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<v Speaker 2>would assume. All Right, we got the five o'clock hour

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<v Speaker 2>coming up next, stick with us a lot to get

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<v Speaker 2>to that I haven't got to yet, so don't go anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>keep it locked right here on Sports Talk seven ninety

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