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<v Speaker 1>At the top of the hour, News Congressman Massey on Syria,

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<v Speaker 1>his opposition to Trump's choice for the eahead, and comments

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<v Speaker 1>on the Doge Department with Elon Musk and Dvik Grandma Swammy.

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<v Speaker 1>One hour from now Judge Ednapolitana. Every Wednesday, will Trump

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<v Speaker 1>stop domestic spying? In the meantime, I always welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>Brigham McCollum with the Hudson Institute, which you can find

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<v Speaker 1>online at Hudson dot org. Brigham ccowen to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's energy policies. Welcome back, Brigham. You know I love

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<v Speaker 1>having you on the show. It's good to have you

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<v Speaker 1>back on today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Brian, thank you so much. It's always an honor

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<v Speaker 2>and a pleasure. And I'm reporting to you live from

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<v Speaker 2>our nation's capital this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're in the swamp. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know we're gonna make it shiny again. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna clean things up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I hope so, and I honestly, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you. When I saw the topic today,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's energy policies. My only reaction because I honestly, and

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I read, as much news as I

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<v Speaker 1>go through, I haven't really personally seen a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>about it, except that he is what has been described

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<v Speaker 1>as or for what I've generally read as everything approaches,

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<v Speaker 1>like all the everything, you know, we'll go with it

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<v Speaker 1>all whatever you want, everything open, let's use that gas,

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<v Speaker 1>oil and coal, and if you want a windmill, do

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<v Speaker 1>that all the above kind of strategy in order to

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<v Speaker 1>bring down our energy bills and create a more efficient

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<v Speaker 1>energy system here.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, that is one of the key pillars. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think you know this notion of energy dominance or energy independence,

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<v Speaker 2>which we've talked about, is more critical than ever. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked on the program previously about watching mistakes that

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<v Speaker 2>other countries have made, so your inflicted.

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<v Speaker 1>Wounds the European Union collectively Germany most notably.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely, and you know this is part of President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has several pillars. And if I may real quickly, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll explain how he fits into this. First is

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<v Speaker 2>this return to peace through strength by re establishing deterrence,

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<v Speaker 2>renewing America's industrial base, which requires a lot of energy,

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<v Speaker 2>and protecting the US against espionage and different ask actions

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I'll skip over secure our borders. That's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>self explanatory. But on our economy. You know, that's really

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<v Speaker 2>where energy comes in, because you know, it is a

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<v Speaker 2>huge component of what makes a country, any country competitive

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<v Speaker 2>or not competitive when you're trying to build and sell things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's something a lot of the world

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<v Speaker 2>has forgotten. And we've seeded this to China and to

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<v Speaker 2>some extent some other places of people that don't like

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<v Speaker 2>us very much. It's very odd, don't you agree?

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<v Speaker 1>I agree one hundred percent. And that's what I always

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<v Speaker 1>go back to. I mean, I know, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>one of the few heretics that are left in the

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<v Speaker 1>world that doesn't believe that you and I are exhiling

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves into existence. I don't believe committing you know, economic

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<v Speaker 1>suicide by trying to rely on the sun to power

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<v Speaker 1>literally everything. I'm smarter than that. But I watch as

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<v Speaker 1>other countries benefiting unbelievably in terms of their building of

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<v Speaker 1>their economy. The Chinese. Chinese are a perfect example. They

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<v Speaker 1>push this global warming stuff on the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>world through all of their connectivity with social media and

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<v Speaker 1>influencing and all that, and yet they do not lift

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<v Speaker 1>a finger. They are not interested in committing economic suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>They burn coal they still build coal plants, they do

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<v Speaker 1>anything they damn well please, while they manufacture all of

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<v Speaker 1>the green stuff that we think we need to rely

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<v Speaker 1>on completely. It's just absolute insanity, Brigham.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen, Amen, it is in fact. And you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you look just a couple miles away from me, down

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<v Speaker 2>down Pennsylvania Avenue at the White House, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>the last four years you've heard this administration, the Biden

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<v Speaker 2>Harris administration, talk about, well, we compete with China over here,

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<v Speaker 2>but in climate they agree with us on climate. We

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<v Speaker 2>are cooperating. Now, Brian, it's unilateral economic disarmament. They want

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<v Speaker 2>us to believe all this nonsense because they want us

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<v Speaker 2>to destroy what's left of our industrial base, to destroy

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<v Speaker 2>what's left of American and American strength energy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of countries don't have the natural resources that

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<v Speaker 2>we have. Japan has to import almost all of its

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<v Speaker 2>raw materials and energy. But American we're blessed with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Why on earth would we take one of our biggest

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<v Speaker 2>markers off the table.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a legitimate question, And the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been able to conclude over the years, Brigan, is

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<v Speaker 1>that there are you know, these the globalist mentality forces

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Those that wish to control us, generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>see us as the outlier. We're the big wart, We're

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that stick out. And why do we stick out?

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<v Speaker 1>Because freedom, independence, capitalism, and an abundance of energy has

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<v Speaker 1>built an economy that nobody in the world can compete with.

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<v Speaker 1>And because of that, they want to take all our

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<v Speaker 1>money and redistribute it. They want to kneecappus. They want

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<v Speaker 1>us to commit this suicide in the name of global

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<v Speaker 1>climate change or something, so we flatten out our economy

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<v Speaker 1>so the rest of the world can. Well, we can

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<v Speaker 1>join the rest of the world and be equally poor.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it sounds conspiratorial, but that's the only conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>that can be left with Brigham.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you're onto something because another part of

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump's pillars and re establishing our economy, He's not

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to trade. People are freaking out all over the

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<v Speaker 2>place right now, right this is his opening move. This

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<v Speaker 2>is fantastic. He's not opposed to trade. He wants fair trade,

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<v Speaker 2>not free trade. And a lot of the trade deals

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<v Speaker 2>we've made the Parish climate change, this all goes in

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<v Speaker 2>the same bucket of giving away our stuff to other people,

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<v Speaker 2>and you cannot save, cut, conserve your way to prosperity.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not how it works. And I think he gets well,

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<v Speaker 2>I know he gets that, and his new administration gets that,

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<v Speaker 2>and hence the make America great again.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's pause. Well, bring Brigan mccomonb back. We

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<v Speaker 1>got lots more to talk about from the Hudson Institute.

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<v Speaker 1>Hudson dot org is where you find them online, and

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<v Speaker 1>I recommend you check out what they have to say.

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<v Speaker 1>It's seven thirty seven fifty five KRECD talk station. And

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<v Speaker 1>I want to mention the USA intilation speaking of energy

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<v Speaker 1>and energy is expensive. It gets more expensive. Why Well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe for some of the reasons that Brigham and I

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<v Speaker 1>are counting on. But regardless of the reasons your bills

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<v Speaker 1>are going up, I don't see any end insight to that.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if they didn't go up, let's just say

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<v Speaker 1>theoretically they went down, they can go down a lot

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<v Speaker 1>further if you have your home properly insulated with USA's

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<v Speaker 1>premium film highest OAR value home on the market made

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<v Speaker 1>right here in Ohio. Thousands and thousands of homes are

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying the comfort and energy savings from the USA over

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<v Speaker 1>the years and years can be one of them. Two,

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<v Speaker 1>get a free inspection. The inspection will determine whether you

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<v Speaker 1>have any insulation in your walls and also whether you

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<v Speaker 1>are under insulated. Again, my daughter, my favorite example, late seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>now they are enjoying the comfort and savings brought about

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<v Speaker 1>by the phone in the exterior walls. You can do

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Get a free quote, and remember right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you may save more than the cost the monthly payment

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<v Speaker 1>a wash. Or even if you don't reach the ninety

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately pays for itself. Government wants you to do it

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<v Speaker 1>for twelve dollars. You can do that on your taxes

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<v Speaker 1>next year, and you're going to enjoy immediate comfort. Change

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<v Speaker 1>or talking energy policy and Brigham you mentioned and moving

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<v Speaker 1>just slightly away from and I know it's all interconnected,

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<v Speaker 1>but going back to your statement about fair trade and

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<v Speaker 1>the concept of fair trade, I know that's where these

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<v Speaker 1>tariffs come in because it is literally impossible to have

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<v Speaker 1>fair trade with a country like China. They don't have OSHA,

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<v Speaker 1>at all. They also have slave labor. So how is

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<v Speaker 1>it you could ever achieve quote unquote fair trade with

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<v Speaker 1>a country that has such a substantial advantage in terms

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<v Speaker 1>here have to deal with under our regulatory environment. Hut Brigham.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's a great point, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>actually very difficult. And you may remember back some years

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<v Speaker 2>ago when we let China into d G seven and

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<v Speaker 2>into the World Trade Organization. The wto the thought was, gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>if we traded, we'd all become friends. You guys wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be communists any longer. You would support freedom. We'll all

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>One of President Trump's current advisors, Robert Leiitthheiser, who was

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<v Speaker 2>the US Trade rep said that is a mistake. And

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<v Speaker 2>everybody said, oh, you don't know what you're talking about. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he was right. It is difficult because every single company

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<v Speaker 2>in China is owned by the Communist Party of China. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there is no free market. And Brian and I know

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<v Speaker 2>you know this, some of your listeners may not. They

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<v Speaker 2>all have to swear allegiance to the state and that

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<v Speaker 2>they will do everything possible to put the state first,

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<v Speaker 2>including espion, spying, stealing of intellectual property, all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>And unless and until America can restore deterrence, military deterrence

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<v Speaker 2>with Taiwan, economic deterrence, energy deterrence, that's how you get

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<v Speaker 2>these people to understand you. You don't deal with a

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<v Speaker 2>playground bully by ignoring them, right, you have to stand

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<v Speaker 2>up to them. And that's if we have not been

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<v Speaker 2>doing that. And fast fact, China now emits more carbon.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're keeping track of carbon and greenhouse gases, then

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the industrial world combined. We can all

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<v Speaker 2>hold our breaths and it wouldn't make a darn bit

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<v Speaker 1>Well, again, another illustration of the stupidity of trying to

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<v Speaker 1>control the emissions, at least in terms of naturally occurring

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<v Speaker 1>emissions like carbon dioxide. I mean, you can keep you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and still have an efficient internal combustion engine. So there

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<v Speaker 1>are technological advances we can make to keep toxic chemicals out.

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<v Speaker 1>But carbon dioxide isn't toxic. It's planted food. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>was Nixon's idea of opening up free trade with China. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if we just trade with them, they're enemies of the

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet Union. But looking at the Soviet Union and our

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<v Speaker 1>policies toward them and all the other Western nations, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>notably because we wouldn't engage in commerce and industry with them.

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<v Speaker 1>We choked them off. And if the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>You're exactly right. And I think you'll also see, speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of speaking of sanctions, a return to maximum pressure on Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>given them billions of dollars and they have sowed hate

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<v Speaker 2>and discontent all throughout the Middle East. But real quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about a lot of these energy pieces. Just

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<v Speaker 2>place you find your podcast, where we talk about some

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<v Speaker 2>has gotten into this this climate debate, and it's really

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<v Speaker 2>not about climate debate, as you've pointed out, it's anti

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<v Speaker 2>capitalism and a lot of people are starting to wake

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<v Speaker 2>up and realize they've been lied to so point in

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<v Speaker 2>fact that you just mentioned in our atmosphere, seventy eight

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<v Speaker 2>percent of our atmosphere is nitrogen, about twenty one percent

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<v Speaker 2>is oxygen, one percent's argone gas. That's the stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>is an oxygen displacement that machines. When we get down

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<v Speaker 2>to it, we have for one hundreds of one percent

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<v Speaker 2>of our atmosphere is carbon.

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<v Speaker 1>Dioxide, plant food, plant.

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<v Speaker 2>Food less than four to one hundreds of one percent,

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<v Speaker 2>and as best as we can tell, humans are responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for sixteen I'm reading this right, how many decimal places

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<v Speaker 2>is for tens hundreds thousand, ten thousands, sixteen to ten

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not a thing. It's nothing. It's absolutely nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, really really, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>use the words pisses me off, recognizing that some people's

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<v Speaker 1>sensitivities may be bothered by that, but at that level

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm uttering it out loud. I was reading about

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<v Speaker 1>the so called Inflation Reduction Act, which was really the

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<v Speaker 1>Green New Deal project, and all of the programs and

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<v Speaker 1>incentives and millions and billions of dollars that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to various states for the purposes of carbon capture, and

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<v Speaker 1>to see Republican Administration officials in those dollar receiving states

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<v Speaker 1>fight to keep things like carbon capture just because it

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<v Speaker 1>benefits their bottom line. There reveals the reality and the

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<v Speaker 1>nefarious nature of all of this. It's really just a

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<v Speaker 1>it's wealth redistribution by another name, and it flows into

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<v Speaker 1>the coffers of administrations, regardless of political stripes. And once

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<v Speaker 1>they get hooked on the opium that that is, they

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<v Speaker 1>won't let it go to our detriment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we are. The government is creating a false economy

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<v Speaker 2>that is not based on products or services that people

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<v Speaker 2>want to purchase, and that can only be sustained so

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<v Speaker 2>long as you have these tax breaks or tax credits

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<v Speaker 2>or other pieces. And I think getting back to President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump on his all the above strategy, which is actually

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<v Speaker 2>something both parties used to embrace. Yep, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>buy an EV, great, buy a EV, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to make you buy one. You want solar panels

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<v Speaker 2>on your roof, perfect, you know, you want nuclear fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna need it all, and we're going to need

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<v Speaker 2>it where it makes the most amount of sense. And

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<v Speaker 2>the things that are economically viable are going to survive.

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<v Speaker 2>Your Elon Musk knows about. You build stuff that people want.

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<v Speaker 2>You can have the greatest idea in the world, but

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's going to pay you for it. Only the government

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<v Speaker 2>creates an industry that doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Right exactly, now, where do you think DEI came from?

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<v Speaker 1>Which college education folks came out with degrees and something

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<v Speaker 1>where there was no market for them. So well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to make everybody have a DEI department in their company,

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<v Speaker 1>in their in their in their college, and their business,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll employ all these people who otherwise have valueless degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring him agown. Hudson dot Org is where you find

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