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Speaker 2: Man, how you doing? Jeff?

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, how are you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little tired. I got about twelve miles of

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steps in today. I'm here into Ottawa. This is the

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longest running independent ACC podcast in the country and it's

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coming to you today, as I said, from Ottawa, Ontario,

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in Canada, and I am blessed to be here on

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a little vacation. I've enjoyed some time walking through the city,

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checking out some of the city's markets. Tomorrow and tomorrow's

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Thanksgiving in Canada, and I'm going to make sure I

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have a post on the site about that because I

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always wish our Canadian readers a happy Thanksgiving. And Thanksgiving

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is tomorrow in Canada, and so tomorrow and then Tuesday,

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it's supposed to be a little rainy here, so I

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may check out some of the museums tomorrow. That's a

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good thing to check check out here in Canada's capital,

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capital city. But it's a perhaps a little a little

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sleepier town when the legislator lasuer And in the Parliament

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here is out of session. So it's kind of kind

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of quiet here and that probably obviously we obviously the

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way it should be on Thanksgiving here up in Canada.

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But restaurants are still open, so it's a good place

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to get rest, I guess this week. So and that

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kind of brings us to an interesting question here. And again,

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this is the longest running independent acc podcast in the country.

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Jeff and I have been this on well over five

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hundred episodes, I mean quite a bit. We may be

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in about five twenty if I'm not mistaken, but if not,

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we're pretty close. And that kind of brings up an

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interesting question on my part, and I kind of want

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to ask this in two parts. Jeff because having been

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up here now, I know that the kid that you know,

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I'm familiar enough with Canada, I know that they that

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they embrace American sports. I mean, this is a hockey

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loving country first of course, up here in ice hockey

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loving country. But you know, lately they've been really embracing

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American sports. I mean, I think some say that lacrosse

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is kind of born up here, and they play a

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more challenging version of lacrosse for the goal as much smaller.

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It's called box lacrosse. You see a lot of ACC

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schools actually recruiting Canadian lacrosse box lacrosse players because they

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have such precision shots. And then of course you saw

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that this year that Canada beat the United States and

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the Olympics in men's basketball. Right, so they are adopting,

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they are adopting American sports. And I'm wondering what you

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would think about the ACC having a preseason game north

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of the border in Canada. And I bring that up, Jeff,

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in part because I think it can grow the sport

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at first a you know, bring you know, bring a

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lot of I think it can bring a lot of

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a lot. It probably can bring some revenue to the

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ACC for to having a game north of the border,

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and I think it. You know, here's the part that

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I heard a lot of ACC fans talk about where

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you know, perhaps it's too prohibitively expensive to fly out

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of the country, but a lot of people can drive

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to Toronto, for example. But having it at the having

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it at the a preseason game, perhaps at the CFL's

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Great Great Site winner, that might be Great Cup winner,

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that's the championship game in the Canadian Football League. Perhaps

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you haven't in Toronto or Montreal or you know, whoever

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wins the Great Gap, but it's generally in one of

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those bigger market cities. I'm just wondering what you thought,

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what you think of having a potential preseason or not

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a preseason but you know, like an ACC game, I

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should say, a regular season game at a neutral site

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's that it's a bad idea

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at all. I'm not sure if you you know, want

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to make it an annual thing, but I think it's

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the kind of game you can set up, you know,

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very early in the season. And I think you know,

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what you saw out of Florida State and Georgia Tech

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in their Ireland game this year. I mean it was

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really well received Game Day was there. It drew massive ratings,

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like that, it would make sense to you know, not

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that week zero where there's only like a handful of games,

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you know, and you you know, alternated in different locations.

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I mean, there have been other conferences that have talked

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about playing in Mexico, and so I do I'm not

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sure why Canada doesn't come up more often as a

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potential site. I think anything that puts the ACC in

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an exclusive television window is a good thing. And you know,

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having something in Canada especially, I mean I think you

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have to kind of gauge the local fan interest in

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such a game. I think what's successful been so successful

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about the game in Ireland is they end up drawing

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a lot of local interest for that game and it

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does very well. So I mean, you put it in

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a location like Vancouver or for our West Coast friends,

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or Montreal or Toronto or someplace like that, and I

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think it could definitely gain some interest.

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Speaker 2: I for one, would love to I would go up

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there in a second. Jeff you, of course, you know,

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up in a border state, right, so I've been up

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here several times, and I think it's perhaps more you know,

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for some you know, I mean, the flip side of this,

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of course, is that it takes away a home game

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from somebody, right, that's the flip side, right, because nobody

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wants to lose a home game at their home stadium.

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you know, more affordable for people to draw I've rather

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than fly across the country. But you're right, you know,

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I like your idea about the week zero approach. I

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think that's a really good idea, and I think it

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would fit. I think people could, you know, like i've,

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you know, people I've and people have learned this and

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probably researched this. But you can get by in Toronto

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or Montreal without without without without a vehicle, you can,

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I mean. And that's the great thing about great thing

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about having a U a game and a location like that,

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because their state, their stadiums are like right on the subway.

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in Toronto, of course, you'd be playing at the University

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of Toronto's football stadium, or you'd be playing at the

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University of Montrealis football stadium. You would be playing at

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one of those locations. Or yeah, I guess you could

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play at the Argonauts Stadium, right the the Toronto Argonauts

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or the Montreal Alots. You could play at the CFL

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stadiums too, I mean, either of those places. But there

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are facilities there that they that you could use if

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you you know, if we think it's those sorts of things,

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if you're on the East coast, like you said, Jeff,

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West coast. But it's something I really think the ACC

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should at least consider put it, putting it in the rotation.

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I think I would love to see something like that.

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So let's go on here, Jeff. I mean we're Week seven.

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Wats of candidates here, Jeff, who was the most disappointing

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team in the ACC in Week seven?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think there's a couple of you know,

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obvious candidates for most disappointing team, But there's another team

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they really missed an opportunity to you know, kind of

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have their season take off a little bit. And you know,

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I'm going to put Virginia out there as my disappointing team.

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I mean, there were other teams that played worse. You know,

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NC State losing at home, pretty listless in that game,

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you know, played worse, Uh North Carolina, you know, defensively,

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another debacle for them against Georgia Tech giving up over

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three hundred and fifty yards rushing. Those teams played worse.

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Louisville coming to town to kind of pick up a

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really credible win, get the five and one on the season,

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and really could start thinking about, you know, get into

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a bowl game, you know, maybe sneaking up on people

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and at least being on the radar screen of acc contention.

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losses in a row, Notre Dame and s MU, you know,

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kind of take advantage of the situation. Primetime No, sorry

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that game wasn't in primetime, but you know, a game

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that they had at home, and they they were in

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that game, and then a couple of mistakes early in

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the second half, you know, has them trail in seventeen

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to seven early in the in the second half, and

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they never could quite make enough plays to get all

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the way back in it. And you know, Louisville wins

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the game twenty four to twenty. And I just felt like,

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especially with Clemson for Virginia coming up next week, you know,

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and you know, we've seen this year in college football,

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anything can happen, but you don't expect to go into

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Death Valley this year, with the way the Tigers have

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played the last five games, had come out of there

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with a win. You know, I just felt like Virginia

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let a golden opportunity slip away against a credible wrin,

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a credible team that really could have, you know, put

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them on the map for this season. So Virginia, you know,

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not because they played the war or you know, had

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the most disappointing performance, but given the opportunity that they

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had in front of him, I feel like they let

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Speaker 2: So Jeff, I mean, and I'm gonna scot I'm I'm

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gonna sound like this that sounds like a Commonwealth narrative then, right,

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because I feel like Virginia Tech let a couple games

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slip away Vanderbilt by not being as aggressive as they

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were against Miami. Jeff, would you think do you think

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if Virginia Tech was passing and playing the way it

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did against Miami, it would have beat Vanderbilt. I'm actually

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being dead serious when I say that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really, I really think they, you know, would

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have done that. You know, they fell behind in that

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Vanderbilt game. What was it, seventeen to zero? You know,

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before you know, everyone knew what was going on. And

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then they they basically outplayed Vanderbilt through the entirety of

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the rest of the game, took the lead, and then

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had a kind of a defensive breakdown late in the

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game and it put him in overtime. I mean they

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probably outplayed, they played outplayed Vanderbilt, you know, just about

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the entire second half of that game. And you know,

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when they took the lead, I thought they were gonna win.

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you know pretty good right.

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Speaker 2: Now people think absolutely, Jeff, But.

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Speaker 1: But it was still one that I think Virginia Tech

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definitely let get away.

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Speaker 2: I'm yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna let off my

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criticism on where was that play calling in the first half?

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Why did you sit in wait five? Why did you

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just sit and do five yard out five yard pass

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outs to the line of scrimmage and nothing down the field?

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Down the field? And it's you know, and I thought

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you brought a really good point about Virginia. I mean,

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they had an opportunity to say, Okay, we're making strides

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in the program. There's no setback, do you know what

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I mean? Sort of thing, because I see a lot

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of similarities of where you think there's a setback and

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you think both programs are going forward, then something else happens,

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you know what I mean. I mean it's this, I

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see a lot of the same sorts of similarities there.

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good point, Jeff. There, So let's let's close that out.

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Let's go on the other side and talk about something

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positive here. Which ACC team do you think was most

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impressive last week? And I'll just say very very first.

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I mean Syracuse I think is going to deserve some contention. No,

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let me back up here, because I've been away. Did

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Syracuse get into the top twenty five today.

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Speaker 1: Jeff, No, No, they didn't, right, should they have got in?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure if I'm quite there yet.

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I think they should have been closer than what they were.

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If I'm going back and look at it, they were

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still like thirty or thirty first. Let me see here, Yeah,

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ap pole and they're thirty third behind Texas Tech and

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just and tied with Arkansas ahead of Utah. I mean,

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so that's still quite a few teams between the top

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twenty five and where Syracuse is, you know, And when

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I look at the top twenty five, you know, I'm wondering, like, well,

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who would I replace with Syracuse? And there's a couple

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candidates here. But then I started looking at, you know,

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some of the other teams here that are between Syracuse

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in the top twenty five, you know, and you know,

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Syric Oklahoma here. You know, Vanderbilt for that as good

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as that great win over Alabama was, I mean, they

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also lost to to Georgia State. You know, why why

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couldn't you put Syracuse. Who you know does have they

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also they had a top twenty five win over U

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N l V. I definitely think they should be at

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should be on the fringe of the top twenty five

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and not in the you know, barely getting votes category.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough, I was. I was pretty impressied.

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I mean, it is you know what I have to say.

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It is pretty cool that we have two service team

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service schools in the top twenty five, Army and Navy.

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That's pretty That is pretty fucking cool, isn't it. I

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just say I haven't done that much. I haven't done

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that on this podcast. Sorry, it's the first time I

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think I've done that on an episode ever. That is

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really cool.

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Speaker 1: That is really cool. Let's enjoy it as long until

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as long as we can until Tony Petiti and you know,

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Greg Sankey make sure that no one outside of the

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Big ten and SEC is allowed to be in the

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top twenty five. So I think that's super cool.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So who else? Do who else? Give us another

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impressive performance this week?

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Speaker 1: Jeff definitely agree with you. On Syracuse. They did what

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good teams do against mediocre teams even on the road Syracuse.

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It was twenty four to seventeen was a final score,

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but I mean it was not as close as the

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score indicated. On that game. Syracuse was in complete control

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of that game. I mean, they looked like the better

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team from the get go, and that's a quality football

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team you don't want to be playing Syracuse. They're really dangerous.

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They getting could quarterback play out of Kyle McCord. And

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you know, like we said, you know that that's a

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team that if they're not on the top twenty five,

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they really should be on the fringes and not as

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far down as they are. But they're off to a

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five and one start. I was pretty impressed with them.

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pitt moving to six and oh they didn't play fantastic

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against Cal. But if you've seen Cal play this year,

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you know that's a pretty solid team. And pitt did

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not have their best game against Cal for the first

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time this year. The offense and holsting the quarterback really

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kind of sputtered and the suspect part of Pittsburgh where

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you were kind of thinking, you know, how high is

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their ceiling was on the defensive side of the ball.

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Their defense really rose to the occasion against Cal. They

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made just enough plays to keep Col's team, you know,

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in check offensively when you only score seventeen and you're

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still able to win the game because you hold the

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other one to fifteen. I know, Cal, mister foyil go

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late in the game, but still it was that defense

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for Pittsburgh that that helped them, you know, nots that

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victory and we know the offense can score. They're not

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going to have that many games where they struggle, we know,

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and we know Col's defense is really pretty good, especially

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in the secondary. They force a lot of turnovers. That

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defense of Pitt's starts catching up with their offense, and

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you know, that's a team that's an absolute factor the

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rest of the way in acc So to see pitt

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you know, beat a pretty decent Cal team without their

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best game on the side of the ball that people

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have been questioning all year. I think Pittsburgh is a

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team that's that's maturing as the season goes forward, and

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you know, they are in the top twenty five as

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they should be, and I think they should be you know,

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two or three spots higher than where they are at

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number twenty, But I was pretty impressed with Pittsburgh definitely differently.

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Speaker 2: Can I just say though, I mean, Brent Key found

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a way to win yesterday, So shout out to him

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for finding a way to win. I mean a lot

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of people were kind of pissed at him that he

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you know, maybe he wasn't you know, was good. Throw

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the North Carolina game down, the showers, rain, but he

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he found a way to get his guys to win.

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Speaker 1: Jeff, Yeah, I mean, you know, Georgia Tech takes a

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ten point lead in the fourth quarter and then Haines

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King goes out with an injury, and it really left

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Georgia Tech searching for, you know, ways to move the ball.

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And I really felt like if that game had gone

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to overtime, Georgia Tech's probably not winning that game. And

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Jamal Haines puts a fantastic run together, a sixty eight

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yard run to win the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: With with with what what was going on with Haines King,

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you know it s already said he missed a fourth quarter,

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but he was laboring during the course of that game.

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I think he got injured in the first quarter, you know,

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hurt that shoulder a little bit. He was definitely not,

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you know, playing his best, and Georgia Tech kind of

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turned things over to their running game against North Carolina

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and just dominated on the ground in that game. So

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I think Georgia Tech fans probably can question some of

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the things Brent Key did late in the game, but

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you know, adjusting to the Haynes King injury and adjusting

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on that offensive side of the ball and still coming

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out with a win against a dangerous North Carolina team

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who's struggling, but who who you know, made plays in

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that game and had Georgia Tech really you know, on

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their heels and and that one, you know, to come

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out of Chapel Hill with a win, get to five

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and two on the on the cusp of a bowl, hey,

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you never, it's never a bad win. And then that

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was that was a good win for Brent Key to

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come out of there with a victory.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, let's go up to the next week here,

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Week eight A. What are you looking forward to the

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most this week?

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Speaker 1: Jeff uh Yeah, I think there are some really intriguing

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games in the ACC this this week. Miami going to Louisville.

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I think that's an extremely dangerous game for for Miami.

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We've seen their last two games out ye and you know,

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Miami is basically two controversial calls away from being on

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a two game losing streak and their defense is not

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playing well. There's no other way you can say it.

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I mean teams. Virginia Tech was the first to really

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expose them defensively by being so physical with them. They

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went to California, and California you know, went through three

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and a good three quarters of football, dropped thirty five

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on them and move the ball with ease on them.

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Louisville is just as capable on offense as either one

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of those teams. And on the road, if Miami's defense

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doesn't come off the bye week playing better defense, that

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they can definitely lose that that environment too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Louisville's can be packed for that game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And we've seen Louisville you know at home.

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Can has played some incredible football over the year, and

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now they're coming off that Virginia win kind of righted

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the ship after the Notre Dame and SMU's loss. That

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game is very intriguing.

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Speaker 2: I think Boston College it's the second best time slot

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of the.

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Speaker 1: Day, Yeah, ABC National TV for that one. I'm looking

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forward to Boston College and Virginia Tech. I think you're

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starting to see Virginia Tech play well, starting to become

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the team, uh that many felt like they would be

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at the beginning of the year. This is this is

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a game where they could really start turning the corner

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against a decent Boston College team who lost the last

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time out against Virginia a couple of weeks ago. But

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we know with with Costianos at quarterback and what they

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can do with their offensive line. I mean, that's that's

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that's kind of a bull pecking order type game. Maybe

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not of teams that are gonna, you know, get to Charlotte,

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but we're talking about, you know, two teams that that

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could be in the upper echelon of the a CC.

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The winner of that game on Thursday night kind of

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a throwback vintage Virginia Tech Lane Stadium Thursday night game.

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Looking forward to that, and then also Florida State and Duke.

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I want to see how Duke. You know, they got

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off to the five and zero start, lost to Georgia

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Tech last week. You know, where are they at? How

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did the bye week help them? And can they you know,

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basically finish off Florida State season. I mean it's already

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down to drain. Let's be honest at Tallahassee this this year.

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But you know, can they just basically, you know, take

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it even further down the drain than it already is

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and you know, have Duke in a position where they

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can really still contend, be in a position to contend

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in the ACC. They just have the one loss to

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Georgia Tech. So you know, those are the games that

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I'm kind of looking forward to in the ACC. Clemson

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hosting Virginia I'm looking forward to that to just see

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if Clemson can continue their rock solid play over the

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last few weeks. And I kind of think they will,

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Speaker 2: Can tell you what, I'm kind of looking forward to

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jet But we're a little bit here, right because I mean,

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like I never I don't want to say, I mean,

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you're right to a degree that Virginia Tech seems like

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it's turned around, but Stanford really isn't that great, And

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I don't know that that's necessarily a measuring stick. Boston

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college mate has had has had basically had a bye

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week to get ready. I mean, you know, both teams

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have been a lot of time, but Boston, you know,

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you give an NFL coach a bye week to prepare

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for a Virginia Tech. I mean, if I'm you know,

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I guess we're gonna go to the latter part of

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the question about an upset question because I see the

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Hookies are favored by seven. I wouldn't be shot shocked

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to see the Hokies lose that game, Jeff, because I

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think the coaching you give an NFL coach a bye

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week to prepare sort of thing for the Hoky for

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the Hokies, and you know it, can you know it?

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It's that's a very ify game for Virginia Tech. And

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I think you hit it right that it's important for

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both teams ball hopes. That's you know, So that's that's

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for an upset if I had to pick one. The

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other thing I'm just interested in, Jeff, and I don't

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want to selld like I'm having fun or having just

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for the Twitter comments alone, is to watch NC State

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go out to California, because that is that is that

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I mean, if Dave, if Dave loses that game, Jeff,

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what do you think the NC State fan base is

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going to be like on Twitter?

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's going to get kind of ugly

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for Dave Doring. I think his hot seat status has

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kind of fallen off the radar of the last few years,

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but it never all the way went away because he's

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still never got that signature out of conference win. He

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kept quite a falling short of the ten win seasons,

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so he had pretty much established NC State as a

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solid program, but never had that kind of magical season

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that nc Stink fans kept waiting for. And now the

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bottom has kind of fallen out this year. I mean,

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they're a bad football team, so I didn't think it

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would take all that much for the fans to turn

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on them, and I think if they lose to California,

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which I expect that they will, it's going to really

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ramp up for Dave Dorn and that hot seat talk

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because he, you know, for all the success he had,

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and he had pretty pretty decent relative success, he never

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got them all the way over the hump and he

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doesn't have that to fall back on, and now the

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program's really struggling. They're not a good football team. Grayson

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McCall got hurt at quarterback, and I think cale Is

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is a kind of team out there, who've you know,

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they're eight points, they're three and three, but they're eight

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points away from being undefeated. I think you'll see NC State.

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I'd be kind of surprised if they win.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're not alone. I'm totally expecting Cal to win.

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I'm totally expecting Cal to win that game. I was

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just wondering how salty the NC State fans would be

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00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:47,799
on Twitter.

478
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:52,079
Speaker 1: I think it's about I think we're really close to

479
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:53,200
having it bus loose.

480
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:58,039
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, the other brief comments I want to make here,

481
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,599
I mean it's pretty cool that. I mean, look, you

482
00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:05,160
know we talked about Miami taking on Louisville at noon, right,

483
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,759
that's the second best time slot here. You got Notre

484
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:10,279
Dame going to Georgia Tech. That's a three thirty game

485
00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:15,240
at ESPN, and then Duke is hosting an evening game

486
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:20,119
Jeff at seven o'clock on ESPN two. I mean, yeah,

487
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,119
Florida State's not that great, but when's the last I mean,

488
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,960
it's been a long time since Duke has really hosted

489
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,119
a game like this that hasn't been a team in

490
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,799
the Triangle area. Right, They've had Clemson come there lot,

491
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,839
you know, Clemson come there. When Clemson, you know, they

492
00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:37,759
had a night game when Clemson came there. But it's

493
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:43,640
you know, we don't really see you know, this is

494
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,880
a course of Friday game, but we don't really see

495
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,319
Duke getting that kind of a hosting opportunity.

496
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: Jeff No, you're you're right, and that seven o'clock Friday

497
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:02,720
night game actually does pretty well. And that's a pretty

498
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:07,240
exclusive window for Duke to kind of showcase their football program.

499
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,359
And you know, you'll have people watching them because you

500
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,480
know of the five and one record and how good

501
00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:16,559
they are. But you know people are going to tune

502
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:18,839
in to kind of see, you know, how much further

503
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,319
down can Florida State go. So there's gonna be a

504
00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:23,559
lot of eyeballs on that game. And it's that's that's

505
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:28,240
a big opportunity to show, you know, the nation, you know,

506
00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:31,480
where Duke football is. And I think you have to

507
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,920
be you have to say, so far through six games,

508
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,319
it's in a pretty good place with what Manny Diaz

509
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:38,240
has done early in the early part of the year.

510
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: Now let's go national chef and I tell you next week,

511
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,599
Georgia let me Georgia Texas gonna be a hell of

512
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:49,920
a game.

513
00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I think you know. On my upset, you know,

514
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,119
games of the week, we already talked about Miami and Louisville.

515
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,279
Very dangerous game for Miami. But like yeah, like you said, nationally,

516
00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:07,440
you know, Notre Dame goes to Georgia Tech. And that's

517
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,559
one thing that's been kind of a hallmark of Brent

518
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:17,559
Key since he's gotten to Georgia Tech. They typically play

519
00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:22,279
their best football under him against you know, the higher

520
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,599
ranked teams. Doesn't mean they always win, but they're usually

521
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,720
pretty competitive. And the question mark for Georgia Tech it's

522
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:34,960
not that I don't think they're quite capable of playing,

523
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:38,279
you know, with Notre Dame and maybe even winning. It's

524
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:41,839
the status of Haines King, the quarterback of Georgia Tech.

525
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,319
You know, as we mentioned earlier on the podcast, he

526
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,480
set out the last half of the fourth quarter with

527
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,079
an injury, and so far today there's been no release

528
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,519
of the status of that injury. It seems to you know,

529
00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:02,119
the message boards range anything from you know, shoulder injury

530
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,400
to concussion. But I mean he's a game changer at

531
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,359
the position for Georgia Tech. And you know, if he

532
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,119
plays and he's healthy, you know, they definitely have an

533
00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:17,079
opportunity to knock off Notre Dame. If he's not available,

534
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,160
you have Zach Pyron who would be in the in

535
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,279
that game, and you know he's he's played some starting quarterback.

536
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:30,920
I think you know, with him at quarterback, I still

537
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,400
think you have a chance against Notre Dame. But you know,

538
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:38,519
in your first game of the season starting, you know,

539
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:41,279
that's a tough ask to play Notre Dame. I mean,

540
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:44,279
they're Georgia Tech's best chance of competing in that game

541
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,240
is if Haines King is a is available and healthy.

542
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:48,839
So we just have to keep an eye on that.

543
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,039
But you know, as a as a national game, that's

544
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:54,839
that's a pretty big one for for Georgia Tech and

545
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:55,559
Notre Dame.

546
00:32:56,119 --> 00:32:56,359
Speaker 2: Uh.

547
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,519
Speaker 1: Then you look at some of the other games around

548
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:05,119
the country. UH, and there's some other you know, massive games.

549
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:10,720
That day. You have Alabama and Tennessee. You know, both

550
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:13,839
both teams already have kind of an unsightly loss on

551
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,839
their resume, Tennessee losing to Arkansas and Alabama with that

552
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,119
Vanderbilt loss, Uh, the loser on that of that game

553
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:25,279
is going to have it's probably gonna have to run

554
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:28,559
the table to make the playoff. I really think so.

555
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:31,000
I don't think the loser of that game can suffer

556
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:35,359
a third loss and and stay in the in the

557
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,279
top twelve. Uh So that's that's a massive game in

558
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,640
Knoxville and I and I don't like the way Alabama's playing.

559
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,680
I think, you know, since the first half of the

560
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,279
Georgia game, they didn't play well. In the second half

561
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:54,799
of that game, Georgia almost came back and beat them. Vanderbilt,

562
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,599
of course, knocked off Alabama, and then South Carolina, you know,

563
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,640
came within a knockdown hell Mary throw of beating Alabama.

564
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,679
That's a team that's got defensive issues against the Tennessee

565
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,400
team whose offenses kind of went south. So you know,

566
00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:14,039
let's see which part of the either one of those

567
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:16,239
football teams can get over their hunt. But I think

568
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:21,159
you'll see Alabama not be able to go into Knoxville

569
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,039
and leave with a victory. I'm looking at Tennessee to

570
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:27,079
win that game. And then later in the day you

571
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:33,800
have a massive game down in Austin, Texas with Texas

572
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,280
playing Georgia, and you know the pressure is all on

573
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,800
Georgia in this game. You know they already have a

574
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,039
loss to Alabama, and you put a second loss on there,

575
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,039
and they're almost in the same boat as out the

576
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:49,519
loser of Tennessee Alabama, where they might be looking at

577
00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:53,480
having to run out you know, the schedule to make

578
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:56,320
the playoff, because there'd be a second loss on that

579
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,719
schedule if they were to lose to Texas, and I

580
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,559
think they will. I don't think this Georgia team is

581
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:07,519
really all that great. Already have lost Alabama, struggled to

582
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:13,760
beat Kentucky, struggled a fairmount against Mississippi State. And I

583
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,039
think Texas is the best team in college football right

584
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:17,760
by far.

585
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,039
Speaker 2: They are. And I agree with you on Tennessee. I

586
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:24,960
think if Nick Saban was at Alabama, I might be

587
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:27,639
you know what, it sounds terrible, I might pick differently, Jeff.

588
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,840
But but how about this. What do you think about

589
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,800
that Oklahoma State road trip to b YU. Jeff, tell

590
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:39,400
me about that.

591
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:44,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I think Oklahoma State has been one

592
00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:46,960
of the more disappointing teams in the country this year.

593
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:50,639
You know, if that game we're in still Water I

594
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,840
might say, here, here's a chance for an upset, but

595
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,760
I don't see Oklahoma State going into Provo and knocking

596
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,119
off that.

597
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: I agree with you. That I agree with you one.

598
00:36:02,119 --> 00:36:04,480
And the altitude is a little different up there too, right,

599
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:06,840
so it gets a little it takes some people a

600
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,440
while to get adjusted, you know, playing in Provo, right.

601
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:13,360
I mean, that's that's a factor for the Cougar, for

602
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,679
the for the Cougars, and they point they have a

603
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,239
real legit shot to go twelve, and oh you like

604
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,639
to talk about this on Twitter. I mean that I

605
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:25,360
think they have a good chance to run the table.

606
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,679
I mean, I'm actually dead serious about that. They have

607
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,800
a really good chance. And I'm wondering. I want to

608
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,559
hear I want to hear your your I want to

609
00:36:36,559 --> 00:36:41,119
hear your Greg Sankey. Take here, chef, if b Y

610
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,440
use twelve and oh, they're certainly going to be rated twelve, right.

611
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,639
Speaker 1: Well, that would probably be where he wants to rank them.

612
00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:54,719
But I think, uh, you know, b Yu runs the table,

613
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,960
they'll probably be ranked, you know, somewhere around five or

614
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:02,519
six when it's all yes said and done, and you

615
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:05,559
know they'll get one of those top four playoff spots,

616
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,000
which which Sankey and Petiti or trying to work some

617
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:12,840
way for it not to be the case, or whatever

618
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,519
they're trying to do to you know, get there, you know,

619
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,360
eight out of twelve auto bids or whatever, how therever

620
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,239
they're trying to ruin college football.

621
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely. Man, So, okay, Jeff, it's the question you've

622
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:34,760
been waiting for, Buddy. I promised you I was going

623
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,840
to ask you this, so there were no there were

624
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,840
no surprises, Jeff, I really need to get your take

625
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,440
on the coaching tenure of Jeff Collins.

626
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: Oh, Man, I don't even know where to begin. It's yeah,

627
00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:01,719
it's just a train wreck. I mean everything that Jeff

628
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,000
Collins is touched since he's was at his first season

629
00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:11,039
at Georgia Tech is just it's just turned into a

630
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:16,519
gigantic debacle. H You know, he ran Georgia Tech into

631
00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:21,159
the He ran them into the ground. You know that

632
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:25,559
that's it's well documented. They did not get better at

633
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:33,000
any point under his tenure. By the time he reached

634
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,800
the the end of the road there. You know, it

635
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,480
was like a celebration when he was finally fired at

636
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:42,800
Georgia Tech. And I honestly thought that it would maybe

637
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:49,400
be several years before he would be able to receive

638
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:54,000
like a premiere, you know, coaching position at the P

639
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:57,760
four level. I definitely I thought it was out of

640
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,679
the question that he would ever be a head coach

641
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:05,039
again in you know, in the next decade. But I

642
00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:08,519
definitely also didn't think he would be a head coordinator

643
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:13,920
anytime soon at the P four level. And you know,

644
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,679
Mac Brown as a coach and as a person is

645
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,920
someone that I like. I don't have anything against Mac

646
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,800
Brown at all, but I was stunned when he hired

647
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,280
Collins as defensive coordinator. And there was only one way

648
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,119
this was going to turn out unless we were all

649
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:37,079
going to unless we were all surprised, and it's turned

650
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:40,199
out the only way we would have expected. It's been

651
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,519
a complete disaster for North Carolina. For like just a

652
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:49,360
moment when they played Minnesota and the defense actually played

653
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:54,039
pretty well, and actually, you know, in fairness, his defense,

654
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:57,760
Collins defense, you know, was the reason they won that

655
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,599
opener against Minnesota. For like a brief moment, I think

656
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:03,480
a lot of us thought, oh, maybe we were wrong

657
00:40:03,519 --> 00:40:06,800
about Collins, maybe he's better coordinator than a head coach.

658
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,119
But the last four games have gone as as badly

659
00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:14,559
as they could have gone. For the for the Tar Heels,

660
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,719
I mean, you play James Madison, you give up seventy points,

661
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,039
then you then you play Duke and you blow a

662
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:25,599
twenty point second half lead with their defense. Then you're

663
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:28,239
playing Pittsburgh, you give up thirty four points in over

664
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,079
five hundred yards of offense. And then against Georgia Tech

665
00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:36,480
with a quarterback on a hurt shoulder who was struggling

666
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:40,599
to really even throw, you know, forward passes, a guy

667
00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:43,480
who was completing over seventy percent of his passes, you know,

668
00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:47,599
barely over fifty yesterday, and Georgia Tech turns at a

669
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,039
run game and over three hundred and fifty yards on

670
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:55,559
the ground. And then for the way it ended, I

671
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:58,039
think Brent Key was just trying to get to overtime.

672
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,360
There's like twenty eight nine seconds left on the clock

673
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,440
and they just do a basic handoff to Jamal Haynes

674
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,239
and he burst through the line one cut scores. It's

675
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:14,960
just a microcosm of Jeff Collins coaching whole.

676
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: Now. Fair enough, fair enough, but I want to go

677
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,199
to the flip side here. Flip side here, you know,

678
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,159
because I kind of had this discussion with you on Twitter,

679
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:28,079
and I think others did too. Mac Brown, I'm sorry. Yes,

680
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:32,719
he's a nice guy. Blah blah blah. He hasn't had

681
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:38,760
a defense exist during his tenure in Chapel Hill, his

682
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,079
second tenure. Nobody like sure, right.

683
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's for sure. And I mean, you know,

684
00:41:48,199 --> 00:41:50,840
when they looked and said, hey, we've got to make

685
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,039
a change at defensive coordinator and kind of get this

686
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:57,440
thing turned around, I never could have would have imagined

687
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,920
that he would have hired Jeff Collins to be tied

688
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:03,639
with turning that defense around. And uh, you know, he

689
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,840
gave gave him the keys to to the defense and

690
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,639
it's it's just been an absolute disaster.

691
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: Boy fair boy, But mac Brown, then Mac Brown should

692
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,880
mac Brown should definitely be held accountable for his mistakes though,

693
00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:22,199
is my point right?

694
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: No? I agree with you. I agree.

695
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: We've been sitting in a situation where I've been blogging

696
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:32,960
about you know how you how you have better you

697
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,199
know how there's better butter or some you know, Butter

698
00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:40,079
can be a better defensive coordinator than what mac Brown

699
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:42,599
has had during his tenure, right, because at least you

700
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:45,920
can slip and slide on the football field if you have, Butter,

701
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:50,039
I'm sorry, I mean, a guy want me to say that,

702
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:52,639
but Mac mac Brown is mac Brown is the worst.

703
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,840
And that's all I had to say about that. Let's

704
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,440
go on to the last one, last open microphone. Jeff,

705
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:02,039
what do you got for us? Jeff?

706
00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:10,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, we've we've gotten into the

707
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:14,760
second half of the season. It's just unbelievable. We've already

708
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:19,000
you know, half the season of college football has has

709
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:21,480
gone by, and I mean, if you're looking at the

710
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:23,400
ACC you know, if you're looking at kind of a

711
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,760
summary review of how the conference has been through the

712
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:33,239
first half of the season, I think overall, you know,

713
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,920
you have to be pretty satisfied with where where it's

714
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at at the moment. You know, despite Florida State falling

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off a cliff of their season, other teams have rose

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up and and have had really surprising first half. I

717
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think Pat Nardoozi is probably the a SEC coach of

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the year at this point. They were picked thirteenth in

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the preseason in the ACCS got them six, and oh

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you know, they got a chance to be I think

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it's either eight or nine, and oh, when Clemson comes

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to town there at Akershuer Stadium, I mean, what that

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would be just an absolutely massive game for Pitt to have.

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So so Pitt has been an absolute surprise SMU. I

725
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think Rhet Lashly has probably made the move the coaching

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move of the ACC so far by going with Kevin

727
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Jennings over Preston Jones or Stone, who is a really

728
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quality quarterback. I mean, that was a bold move to

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switch quarterbacks. And since he's done that, I mean, you've

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got SMU five and one. We talked about it that

731
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the loss to BYU looks way better now than it

732
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did at the time, and you know, they're team that's

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that's really you know, from where they started the season

734
00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:05,960
almost losing in Nevada has has really risen up with

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you know, have big win over TCU, we go back

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to Pitt. They had two P four wins Cincinnati and

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West Virginia. Clemson kind of riding the ship since that

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Georgia loss, opening up that offense in a way that

739
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we haven't seen in several years. Cade Klipnik's even getting

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a little discussion for a Heisman talk now, I think

741
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that's a little bit premature until they you know, get

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further down the season play a few more quality teams.

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But you could argue argue that, you know, Clemson is

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playing the best football in the conference right right now,

745
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and then of course Miami and cam Ward. You know,

746
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,559
he's on the short list of the top two or

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three guys in the Heisman Chase. So I mean, those

748
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are those are just the teams at the top, and

749
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then you got Syracuse and Louisville. I think quality teams,

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00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:02,679
Georgia Tech, especially if he King is healthy, if Virginia Tech,

751
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who's played well at times, can kind of build some consistency.

752
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I mean, there's a lot of intriguing football the rest

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of the season, and the ACC has a fair chance

754
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,760
to get multiple teams into the playoffs by the end

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of the year. You've got two teams in the top

756
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:27,280
ten right now, Miami and Clemson, and Pittsburgh and SMU

757
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,800
are not too far down the down the rankings as well.

758
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So I think this has been a really fun, interesting

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college football season in the ACC so far. And you know,

760
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as opposed to maybe some years in the past where

761
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:48,679
they were barely on the fringes of the playoffs, I mean,

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they got a lot to play for and a lot

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00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,039
of great matchups coming in the second half of the season,

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so I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: It should be a definitely should be fun, Jeff, It

766
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,960
definitely should be fun. I guess I'm just gonna say, hey,

767
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thank you for holding this podcast tonight. Jeff. It was

768
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:17,159
fun to randomly talk about randomly talk about ACC football.

769
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I mean, we obviously have very structured talk, but we

770
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,519
had a different, different conversation, a different conversation tonight where

771
00:47:24,519 --> 00:47:27,199
we went around on a lot of different topics and

772
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it was fun, fun to fund fun, fun to do that.

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I like having these new open microphone segments where we

774
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can kind of talk about whatever, whatever, whatever, what what,

775
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whatever we're feeling about. I'll say this, I am looking Jeff.

776
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,239
I am looking forward to a SEC basketball this year.

777
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,960
It's gonna be fun. I know you are too. I

778
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:52,920
know you are too. And it's just a round just

779
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,039
just around the corner here, and you know it's I

780
00:47:56,039 --> 00:47:58,000
think we're gonna have I think we have a chance

781
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:02,320
to have several ACC teams make some noise in the

782
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,039
big dance. I'm kind of really looking forward to seeing

783
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:09,280
how NC State reloads from their from their from their

784
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,480
from their just their incredible run from last year, and

785
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how some of the other top top tier teams do

786
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in the league. I'm looking forward to seeing how how

787
00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:24,039
Mike Young, how Mike Young Mike Young's team in Blacksburg.

788
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:29,719
Uh will Uh? How do I say it adjust with

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00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,119
a brad new lineup right, I mean with most of

790
00:48:33,199 --> 00:48:36,559
your production out the dory, with the with the transfer portal. Now,

791
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:38,800
you know, things are going to be much different in

792
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,239
the world, in the world at college basketball. And I

793
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,039
know you're looking forward to watching Damon stop my Stotta

794
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:48,000
Myers teams because I loved watching his offensive system last year.

795
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And when he has you know, additional got additional time

796
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:56,119
with those players in the same system and and higher

797
00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:58,440
level of recruits, it's going to be a different show

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down there down there in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think you know, they're already starting to

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get some dark horse, dark horse NCAA buzz down at

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00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,239
Georgia Tech. And I think it's in good hands with

802
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:24,519
Damon Stottomeyer. I think the backcourt is really intriguing, and

803
00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:28,239
and you know their front court with with Nongo is

804
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,199
going to have it's going to be deeper than it

805
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,159
was last year. We saw the flashes you know, of

806
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,599
Georgia Tech, of what they might be capable of under

807
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:42,719
Stata Maria when they knocked off Duke North Carolina and

808
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:47,159
and also uh Clemson last year, who they all turned

809
00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:50,599
out to be some really good basketball teams. So yeah,

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00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:52,960
Georgia Tech is going to be a very intriguing team.

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I think Louisville, you know, they've just kind of suvered

812
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,719
under the over the over the years, and you know

813
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,239
now they're ready to move forward, and I think they

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have a chance to kind of start to return to

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what we're used to seeing. And I think they just

816
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had the ACC Media Days this past week. So for me,

817
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:18,000
we're starting to approach my favorite time of the year,

818
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when we're nearing the end of the college football season

819
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but having a bunch of important games. And then you're like,

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You're like me, we're going to watch college basketball in

821
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November and December and really enjoy it. We're not just

822
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:35,519
like February college February and March college football fans. So

823
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:40,960
when I start seeing those matchups in November and December,

824
00:50:41,639 --> 00:50:43,760
you know, I'm getting excited and when they're both going

825
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,239
on to me, that's that's peak sports watching.

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Speaker 2: Time. Oh my gosh, that's the time where I hope

827
00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:50,719
I don't gain a whole lot of weight and that

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sort of thing by sitting just next to the two.

829
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But you're absolutely right, it's absolutely right. It's the best

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time of the year. Jeff. Yeah, always, always great to

831
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:03,840
chat with you. It was fun to have a classic

832
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,840
edition of the All Sports UH the UH, I should say,

833
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,559
the All Sports Discussion a SEC podcast and we're going

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to come back again real soon on the podcast. But

835
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thanks thanks for having this impromptu podcast tonight. And it

836
00:51:18,519 --> 00:51:20,320
was fun, fun to chat and fun to chat like

837
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,440
old times with no guests. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Great, I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: All right, take care, all right bye,