Speaker 1: Welcome back Drive Time on ESPN seven hundred, Porter Larson
Speaker 1: Tony Parks taking you through it all, of course, reacting
Speaker 1: to Super Bowl fifty nine, the Philadelphia Eagles championship over
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, of course, the hopeful three peat
Speaker 1: champions not to be. Robert Johnson joined us a little
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Speaker 1: Check it's now two Stevenson cil Vester talking some football,
Speaker 1: talking some Super Bowl with a guy who's played in
Speaker 1: the damn game. Sly, how's it going man?
Speaker 2: What's up? How you doing doing well?
Speaker 1: Doing well? Tony Parks and I here holding the Ford
Speaker 1: down to day?
Speaker 2: What's up? How are you? What's up?
Speaker 3: Brother?
Speaker 4: How you doing?
Speaker 5: I'm great? Always appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Slide.
Speaker 5: What's uh?
Speaker 1: What's the Super Bowl look like in the house of
Speaker 1: a guy who's who's played in one before? Is it, Uh,
Speaker 1: get everyone out of the way, or uh, you know,
Speaker 1: let you dial in or is it pretty relaxed and
Speaker 1: you know, serving wings and dip like everyone else.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I don't. I don't have anybody around.
Speaker 5: Doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 4: Nobody's around my house. It's a it's a thing, a stable.
Speaker 2: Everybody tried to like what you guys doing, You wanna
Speaker 2: get together.
Speaker 4: We're just like no, no, no, and it's it. So
Speaker 4: it's just me and my wife. We have a party
Speaker 4: for two at the Sylvester household and and and that's it.
Speaker 4: Nobody else is involved. It was actually funny. My wife's
Speaker 4: nephew called during the game. He's like, hey, did you
Speaker 4: see number fifty six?
Speaker 2: Did your move?
Speaker 4: And and and then he just kept talking. He was
Speaker 4: like watching the game and like talking. And then his
Speaker 4: mom goes, you know, slide doesn't like to talk there
Speaker 4: in the game.
Speaker 2: So it was funny. So like everybody knows that I
Speaker 2: don't like people around, so it's good. But yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just by myself. Yes, I see.
Speaker 3: We used to have when I was younger, we had
Speaker 3: you know, the really big Super Bowl party and all
Speaker 3: of that stuff. But those games were always blowouts, so
Speaker 3: it didn't really disrupt a lot. And it's fifty five
Speaker 3: to ten and forty six to ten and all these,
Speaker 3: you know, just massive blowouts. Well, then the games got good,
Speaker 3: and when the games got good, it started to really
Speaker 3: sour some key moments like I remember, you know, somebody
Speaker 3: going off about how they hated their boss, and here's
Speaker 3: John Elway driving down the field trying to win his
Speaker 3: first Super Bowl two minutes to go, and it was just.
Speaker 2: Driving me insane.
Speaker 3: And I still remember a close friend of mine who
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, we used to get everybody together, and
Speaker 3: then here we are. We have Tom Brady and against
Speaker 3: the Panthers, and it's back and forth in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 3: and I keep hearing about Janet Jackson's nipple, and it's
Speaker 3: driving me in saying and I don't want to hear
Speaker 3: about you know, like it kept getting so now more
Speaker 3: and more I know.
Speaker 5: Of different people. I know porters this way, I'm this way,
Speaker 5: you're this way.
Speaker 3: I thought I was kind of on an island there
Speaker 3: for a bit, but more and more people are like, hey,
Speaker 3: I wanted a smaller party and I wanted about the
Speaker 3: game like that's and it sounds like that's exactly, uh.
Speaker 5: The only way you've ever wanted it.
Speaker 4: Man, you might be the only person that didn't want
Speaker 4: to hear about Janet Jackson's nipple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely wanted to hear that.
Speaker 3: I actually was working that guy was.
Speaker 5: I was board opping.
Speaker 3: I was board opping at a station for the super Bowl,
Speaker 3: and the next morning I get a phone call from
Speaker 3: a producer going.
Speaker 2: On he was working wardrobe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well no, yeah, right right.
Speaker 3: I get this phone call and they're like, hey, why
Speaker 3: don't we have anything on Janet Jackson?
Speaker 5: I'm like, what about her? What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Because I was doing the radio, like board opping the radio,
Speaker 3: so I wasn't watching the TV. I mean it was on,
Speaker 3: but I wasn't like intently watching the halftime show. So
Speaker 3: I was so lost about what anybody was talking about.
Speaker 3: And obviously, yeah, I was the last.
Speaker 2: One to know. Magical moment. Man, it was magical.
Speaker 5: But uh no, man, it's that was pretty wild.
Speaker 3: Uh, yesterday, Porter and I've been talking about I mean,
Speaker 3: the front four just decides to dominate right away, and
Speaker 3: there are many times, you know, there's so many chapters
Speaker 3: in a game.
Speaker 5: It's a long game.
Speaker 3: Things change, you never know but the way that the
Speaker 3: four were just winning one on one matchups and collapse
Speaker 3: in the pocket with ease, I thought to myself, Man,
Speaker 3: this might get really.
Speaker 5: Bad in a hurry.
Speaker 3: At what moment were you at all, like really worried
Speaker 3: for Kansas City.
Speaker 4: When the last touchdown of the first half it was
Speaker 4: seventeen zero, I'm just like, all right, it's whatever, But
Speaker 4: like I started to get worried for Kansas City.
Speaker 2: Anyway, if anybody would be worried, it'd be like, oh,
Speaker 2: this might get out of him.
Speaker 4: Twenty four to zero and you go into halftime and
Speaker 4: you got to sit for an hour for halftime show
Speaker 4: and just and just stew on a twenty four to
Speaker 4: zero lead. Like it's at that point that's where I
Speaker 4: was just like, oh this is this is bad. But
Speaker 4: like cause, like even with the couple picks, anytime you
Speaker 4: throw a pick six in a game, I don't know
Speaker 4: what the statistic is, but you lose that game, I
Speaker 4: would say over seventy five percent of the time, and
Speaker 4: especially in the first half, because you don't give your
Speaker 4: defense an opportunity to stop the other team, Like even
Speaker 4: if they get a pick, even in their in your territory,
Speaker 4: or whatever. That defense still has an opportunity to make
Speaker 4: them only settle for three points or whatever, and that's a.
Speaker 2: Win for the defense.
Speaker 4: But when you give them seven points, there's nothing you
Speaker 4: can do about that. And so that was a huge,
Speaker 4: huge part because it was ten zero at that point
Speaker 4: and then you do a pick six for a touchdown,
Speaker 4: and then you get the ball back and plunt it
Speaker 4: back to them and then they score again. At that point,
Speaker 4: that was just a demoralizing eight minutes of the last
Speaker 4: of the second quarter. And that just really like settle
Speaker 4: things in because when your opponent now has all the
Speaker 4: confidence in the world to where they think they could
Speaker 4: just do whatever they want, and their defense was just
Speaker 4: kicking your butt like crazy.
Speaker 2: And yeah, as you said, you can't like blitz everybody.
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, he has great pre snap breeds and and
Speaker 4: so he's gonna get rid of the football and make.
Speaker 2: You hurt for it.
Speaker 4: But if you can win your one on one battles,
Speaker 4: you could win with just four guys. That means you
Speaker 4: got seven guys in coverage at all times. And Patrick
Speaker 4: Mahomes doesn't have time. He's rushing the throws and that
Speaker 4: is how you beat somebody as great as.
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and they just did it.
Speaker 4: It wasn't I didn't think like they just confused them
Speaker 4: with the looks they were doing. I mean even the
Speaker 4: pick six was just a cover four, three hundred four
Speaker 4: deep and Cooper dejen just made an athlete play right.
Speaker 4: Like we saw in the last game against Utah versus
Speaker 4: UCF when Smith Snowden's interception for a touchdown.
Speaker 2: I talked to him after the game.
Speaker 4: He's just like, man, they tried it to play before
Speaker 4: and the exact same thing. I just came off of
Speaker 4: my guy and I made a play. Same thing with
Speaker 4: Cooper Degen. He should have been a little bit more
Speaker 4: out to the flats, but he saw the guy coming
Speaker 4: across the middle and he's like, wait for it, wait
Speaker 4: for it, ballam, and he just made a play. Man,
Speaker 4: So make plays. And that's exactly what it does. And
Speaker 4: there's no better birthday gift than it picks six homes
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Sly, you mentioned obviously the four man rush that was
Speaker 1: able to get pressure on Patrick without sending an extra guy.
Speaker 1: It allowed the Eagles to drop seven in coverage oftentimes,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the magic that Mahomes makes is
Speaker 1: capitalizing when teams blitz him. Right, That's a lot of
Speaker 1: times the spectacular plays you see him make are are
Speaker 1: correlative with the other team blitzing. Is it that simple
Speaker 1: that that is the the that that is the recipe
Speaker 1: that Eagles used to beat him? Or was there anything
Speaker 1: that you saw, as you mentioned maybe pre snap, maybe
Speaker 1: disguising things. What was it from an NFL linebacker's perspective
Speaker 1: that they did maybe beyond just the four man rush,
Speaker 1: because I've been hitting that over the head all day long,
Speaker 1: but it seems almost a little too simple to be true.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, the Super Bowl game it's self is extremely hard
Speaker 4: to play because of all of the media, the marketing,
Speaker 4: the TV time outs, the pregame, the halftime. It's just
Speaker 4: a much longer football game. And so making adjustments isn't
Speaker 4: as easy as that because you have the ability to
Speaker 4: just stew on your mistakes and then it just capitalizes.
Speaker 4: But like pre snap, no, I think pre snap, Patrick
Speaker 4: Mahomes understands is like, Okay, they're not blitzing.
Speaker 2: That means as a quarterback, I can hold the football.
Speaker 4: And so in his mind, pre snap, he's like, okay,
Speaker 4: they got seven deep, I can hold the football.
Speaker 2: My clock in my head, shit, have gave me two
Speaker 2: or three extra seconds.
Speaker 4: But these guys are winning their one on one battles,
Speaker 4: and so that two or three seconds just isn't there.
Speaker 4: So now I have to scramble out of the pocket
Speaker 4: against an athletic defensive line, which means I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: be able to set back up and deliver an accurate pass,
Speaker 4: let alone Travis Kelsey and jon Dre Hopkins and Hollywood
Speaker 4: Brown dropping footballs, which isn't helping either.
Speaker 2: Like the timing was just off, And that's what you do.
Speaker 4: That's that's what you teach, right, What is the best
Speaker 4: coverage on the back end, A good pass rush? What's
Speaker 4: the best pass rush, A good coverage on the back end.
Speaker 4: That's complimentary defense. And that's what the Eagles were doing.
Speaker 4: It wasn't the disguise as I said. They played that
Speaker 4: cover four three hundred four deep. You could see that
Speaker 4: that was easy. There wasn't nothing that really disguised that, right,
Speaker 4: Like I just listened to something where Jayden Daniels was
Speaker 4: talking about playing the Baltimore Ravens and Kyle Hamilton's up
Speaker 4: at the line of scrimmage and then at the snap
Speaker 4: he drops thirty yards back into the deep third, Like
Speaker 4: you weren't seeing that with the Eagles, like and so like,
Speaker 4: it's just an understanding, and I think Porter it's it
Speaker 4: is as simple when you're one on one battles and
Speaker 4: compliment your coverage on the back end and you win
Speaker 4: football games.
Speaker 3: You talk about the length of the Super Bowl, the stoppages,
Speaker 3: the long amount of time. At what point could you
Speaker 3: feel that most like, Wow, this is different.
Speaker 5: I mean the glitz, the glamour.
Speaker 3: We know about the hype, but just in terms of
Speaker 3: the length of it and how different the timing now
Speaker 3: is and just how unique that one game is compared
Speaker 3: to all others.
Speaker 2: Are you asking me personally?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, when you're in the stadium, when you're there
Speaker 3: and the whole process of it all.
Speaker 4: It was literally in the pregame in the warm ups, right,
Speaker 4: And I saw it on Patrick Mahomes's face too as
Speaker 4: they were singing God Bless America and national Anthem and
Speaker 4: all of this stuff too. It's just like like you
Speaker 4: get hyped running out of the tunnel, right, you run
Speaker 4: out of the tunnel, you gotta singing.
Speaker 2: You don't kick off for another thirty five minutes. I
Speaker 2: didn't notice that, Like, but it's it sucks. Man.
Speaker 4: I'm standing we run out of tunnel, I'm all juiced.
Speaker 2: I'm like, let's go. Yeah, I'm about to run down
Speaker 2: on this kickoff YadA.
Speaker 4: And then I'm standing next to Christina Aguilera before she
Speaker 4: goes and sings the national anthem, and next to you know,
Speaker 4: God Bless America and then like, oh crap, we haven't
Speaker 4: even done.
Speaker 5: Coin toss and you're on your feet the whole time,
Speaker 5: and you're on.
Speaker 4: Your feet the entire time, and then they gotta do uh,
Speaker 4: they gotta do interviews before like they interviewed Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 4: they interviewed the coach, they interviewed Patrick Mahomes, and before
Speaker 4: the kickoff even started.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of time.
Speaker 4: And that's just like for me, I'm just like I'm
Speaker 4: hip coming out of the tunnel and the next you know,
Speaker 4: and you gotta build that back up and so like,
Speaker 4: and that's where the Kansas City's experience would come in.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, a game is a game,
Speaker 4: and you throw all of these uh, these distractions and
Speaker 4: and things in there, it's so easy to be affected.
Speaker 4: And for me watching Patrick Mahomes, I just saw a
Speaker 4: lot of frustration.
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of and I don't.
Speaker 4: Know what his pre Super Bowl game was like this
Speaker 4: whole Super Bowl week, but I had to imagine it
Speaker 4: was a lot between family, between friends, between media interviews,
Speaker 4: between what was asked for him. I can't imagine what
Speaker 4: he was going through and and and the amount of
Speaker 4: distraction that he was faced with heading into this and
Speaker 4: and so that plays a huge, huge dividend and actually
Speaker 4: performing in the game.
Speaker 2: And I honestly, for me, they.
Speaker 4: Did a solo shot of Patrick Mahomes, you know, as
Speaker 4: the national anthem was being sung, and I'm just like,
Speaker 4: that's gotta be frustrating.
Speaker 2: You just sit there and just do all of this stuff.
Speaker 4: And so that's just a crappy part of the game
Speaker 4: of the Super Bowl game to me. And honestly, they're
Speaker 4: not going to change it because of how much money
Speaker 4: they make, right But but it's definitely something that you know,
Speaker 4: coaches or experienced people have to game plan for it
Speaker 4: by itself.
Speaker 1: So is there any reason to believe one of the
Speaker 1: Eagles or the Chiefs shouldn't be back at least to
Speaker 1: a maybe a conference title next year? Which which of
Speaker 1: those teams is best suited or which concerns do you
Speaker 1: have about either one of them?
Speaker 5: Getting back to this.
Speaker 4: Point, man, everybody's unnotice everybody is unnoticed. You know, everything's
Speaker 4: about matchups, right, and when you win, a lot of
Speaker 4: people disperse, rosters disperse, you know, administration, coaching staffs, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of people that go elsewhere. Right, we were
Speaker 4: talking about Kellen Moore leaving now might be the head.
Speaker 2: Coach of the of the Saints.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's official yet, but it might
Speaker 4: be the head coach of the Saints. Right, Like how
Speaker 4: important was Kellen Moore to the play calling this year?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: How important is is UH Steve Spagnola?
Speaker 2: What if he leaves? Right to them?
Speaker 4: It's a long football season right now, seventeen games, playoffs,
Speaker 4: you got to do that over and over again, and like,
Speaker 4: and everybody's now looking at Kansas City.
Speaker 2: I mean I said it in my show the other
Speaker 2: last week.
Speaker 4: It's like the Texans did a good job against Kansas City, right,
Speaker 4: And so with that pass rush, Kansas City got helped
Speaker 4: out a lot with UH, with calls and situational things
Speaker 4: where their defense helped them out and got points and
Speaker 4: then the Texans kind of lost it in the end,
Speaker 4: but that was but that was a good football game
Speaker 4: from them.
Speaker 2: Right. The AFC is tough.
Speaker 4: You got Pittsburgh, you got Baltimore, you got the Texans,
Speaker 4: you got the Bengals who're gonna come up, you got
Speaker 4: the Bills who want to to.
Speaker 2: To have a rematch and another go at it to
Speaker 2: go back again.
Speaker 4: It's tough all in the same. But I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't think so. I don't think either of these teams
Speaker 4: will be back next year. And so this moment was
Speaker 4: was huge for you to take advantage of the moment
Speaker 4: because you never know when you be back.
Speaker 2: Right, Like my rookie year I went there, I was
Speaker 2: just like, oh, we'll be back. We didn't even we
Speaker 2: didn't go.
Speaker 4: We lost in the wild card the next year, and
Speaker 4: so like, man, it's it's tough sledding getting to the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, man, So you got to cherish each moment.
Speaker 4: But next year, I don't I think the Chiefs are
Speaker 4: on notice as far as being exposed and how to
Speaker 4: beat them, and then the Eagles as well. I just
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of things that they'll break
Speaker 4: up This year, from from personnel getting new new contracts,
Speaker 4: from free agency to coaching staff taking jobs, they're gonna
Speaker 4: be a new little team. And you got to watch
Speaker 4: the Commanders, the Detroit Lions and the Buccaneers and teams
Speaker 4: like that who were surging in the NFC.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna look different in the super Bowl next year,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: Well that's what I wanted to get your take on too.
Speaker 3: As you mentioned, you were in the super Bowl the
Speaker 3: next year. You guys had a great regular season, got
Speaker 3: trucked by Baltimore that first game, but you're still a
Speaker 3: twelve win team. All of that, even with the success
Speaker 3: and the expectation. How do you describe just how different
Speaker 3: every season actually is. It's almost like each season has
Speaker 3: its own life, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like for me, heading into the playoffs, right,
Speaker 4: forget your season, your season record, right, that means nothing.
Speaker 4: It only means something if you're able to get some
Speaker 4: kind of home field advantage or be able to play
Speaker 4: in your home stadium. But your records, the way you
Speaker 4: played the team the last time you played them means
Speaker 4: nothing going into the playoffs. And so the very next year,
Speaker 4: the same thing you can't think about last year. Oh,
Speaker 4: last year, we made it. That means we'll make it
Speaker 4: this year. Absolutely not. It doesn't even mean you'll make
Speaker 4: it to the playoffs. There's so many things that go in,
Speaker 4: so many new people. Do they buy into the culture,
Speaker 4: do they buy into all of the medias? Can they
Speaker 4: handle themselves professionally.
Speaker 2: To get back to this point? Right? Like, the Chiefs
Speaker 2: have won in so many.
Speaker 4: Different ways, and now they've lost a couple times in
Speaker 4: a couple different ways.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: They've won with not the best record. They've run with
Speaker 4: a passing threat. They've won with a rushing threat, with
Speaker 4: no tight end, with no receivers having any touchdowns only
Speaker 4: the tight ends throughout the season, and they went all
Speaker 4: the way and won in the Super Bowl. They've done
Speaker 4: it so many different ways, but you can't guarantee that
Speaker 4: that way is gonna work this next year. And so
Speaker 4: now everybody knows the Kansas City Chiefs is beatable, and
Speaker 4: so they're gonna bring their best effort all the time,
Speaker 4: and so hopefully, you know, cooler heads prevail and Andy
Speaker 4: Reid is just who he.
Speaker 2: Is, you're in and you're out.
Speaker 4: And Patrick Mahomes get to his greatness and what he
Speaker 4: is and he recognizes where he went wrong in this game.
Speaker 4: But you know there's a lot of teams gonna be
Speaker 4: striving out there. Man, it says new year. You got
Speaker 4: to treat it as that year. Last year does not
Speaker 4: go into this year. There's nothing from this year that
Speaker 4: the kssas city Chiefs can take into next year. You know,
Speaker 4: the experience, all of that stuff, I mean, it all
Speaker 4: goes out the window because football being the ultimate team sport,
Speaker 4: everybody's got to work together. You're gonna get new personnel
Speaker 4: from the draft, from free agency, from attrition, and you're
Speaker 4: gonna have to work with that in different capacities.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna look crazy next year.
Speaker 1: Say you mentioned how cyclical things are and how you
Speaker 1: can't necessarily bank on a team just from them being
Speaker 1: here this year being their next year. With that in mind,
Speaker 1: how impressive is it that the Eagles last year the
Speaker 1: collapse that they had, and then you look at the
Speaker 1: offseason that Howie Roseman had the offensive line that he built.
Speaker 1: This offseason he signed Sekwon Barkley, Quinn and Mitchell did
Speaker 1: Cooper Dejene. He hired Vic Fangio and Kellen Moore. And
Speaker 1: this is after losing a Hall of Famer in Jason Kelce,
Speaker 1: and you lose Reddick in the offseason as well. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't think in recent memory, at least on paper,
Speaker 1: a better you know, short stint off season and the
Speaker 1: results that it got than the one we just saw
Speaker 1: from Howie Roseman.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people do it.
Speaker 4: I mean the fact that they found success with it, right,
Speaker 4: you know, they could have got tripped up in the
Speaker 4: Rams game. They could have got tripped up at any
Speaker 4: point through here. Because you put a roster together like that,
Speaker 4: it doesn't mean it's gonna work. We've got plenty examples
Speaker 4: of all star rosters and it not working right. And
Speaker 4: so you know, even the seven Patriots, right, they go
Speaker 4: seventeen eighteen and oh and they lose in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 4: but they lose by a little bit, right, They're just
Speaker 4: that far away from having a nineteen and oh perfect season.
Speaker 4: And it's just it's splitting hairs man, because it's the
Speaker 4: fine tuning, right, But putting a roster together that works
Speaker 4: is extremely difficult, right, Like I'm sure at the beginning
Speaker 4: parts of this year with Philadelphia, I mean ever since there,
Speaker 4: I think the statistic was ever since their bye week,
Speaker 4: they're fifteen and one and now sixteen and one since
Speaker 4: their bye week. They had to figure some stuff out
Speaker 4: at the beginning of the season, right. The Ravens didn't
Speaker 4: have it all figured out with Derrick Henry at the
Speaker 4: beginning of the season either, and so like it's not
Speaker 4: always telling that this roster or things are going to
Speaker 4: work out. But you know, you got to have humble
Speaker 4: professionals on your football team, people who aren't sitting over
Speaker 4: here crying for the football doing this and that. It's
Speaker 4: just like, you need to do what you need to
Speaker 4: do to win. And if you got a lot of
Speaker 4: people like that in your aid positions, you're gonna win
Speaker 4: football teams.
Speaker 2: And that was that offensive line.
Speaker 4: The Kai Becton, a veteran, you know, I think he
Speaker 4: just understood what he needed to do because I believe
Speaker 4: he was a tackle, you know, over there for the
Speaker 4: Jets for all those years, and you just got to
Speaker 4: Lane Johnson and everybody across that that offensive line. Man,
Speaker 4: it sucks because you know, Jason Kelce, he retires and
Speaker 4: they go.
Speaker 2: Win a ring, and so I know he feels in it.
Speaker 2: He's feeling it.
Speaker 4: But I think they just had a lot of a
Speaker 4: veteran experience that understood what needed to be done to
Speaker 4: get to this point, to.
Speaker 2: Get a ring.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of guys on this roster who's
Speaker 4: been chomping at the bit.
Speaker 2: For a ring.
Speaker 4: Man, I think I don't know how many guys were
Speaker 4: on that twenty seventeen championship team besides Brandon Graham, not
Speaker 4: very much, right, But this was this was something that
Speaker 4: a lot of those guys felt that lost a couple
Speaker 4: of years ago in Arizona playing for the Super Bowl,
Speaker 4: and so they definitely wanted to get some get back
Speaker 4: in this football game.
Speaker 5: Man, Just how important situations are.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, and you had coaches you know, college
Speaker 3: and then also there in the NFL. They were honest,
Speaker 3: They knew how to get the most out of you
Speaker 3: as a player and how to get others the most
Speaker 3: out of them as well. And then staff changes are made,
Speaker 3: I mean, you have success. That's usually actually a positive indication.
Speaker 3: Guys get hired other places, promoted other places. That's how
Speaker 3: it works when staff changes are made at any level
Speaker 3: when it comes to football. How long do you feel
Speaker 3: like it usually took to feel like that trust is
Speaker 3: replicated to then have ultimate level success.
Speaker 4: Again, Man, I mean it's it's both. I can't say
Speaker 4: that it'll take forever. I can't say that it happens quickly.
Speaker 4: It's it's all about the people involved, right from each level,
Speaker 4: from the staff to the coaching staff, from administration to
Speaker 4: the coach staff, to the captains, leaders on the team,
Speaker 4: to the freshmen or rookies that come into a program
Speaker 4: and buying in and understanding what it takes to win, right.
Speaker 4: And so I think it's a good mix of both
Speaker 4: people who are hungry for it and really a part
Speaker 4: of that mission, and you know, people who just want
Speaker 4: to be competitive. I think it's all about who is involved,
Speaker 4: in Nell's cases, in that organization to make those things happen.
Speaker 1: Man Stevenson Sylvester, of course, the former youth former NFL linebacker,
Speaker 1: played in the Super Bowl talking some Super Bowl. Always
Speaker 1: appreciate your time, Sly, Uh, have a good week.
Speaker 2: We'll catch up.
Speaker 1: I don't know draft spring football time, but enjoy some
Speaker 1: hoops and enjoy some downtime in the In the meantime,
Speaker 1: we'll do watch.
Speaker 2: My Lakers tonight, right, yes, sir, Luca, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, to throw that down there, of course. I
Speaker 1: don't blame I don't blame him.
Speaker 2: It should be.
Speaker 1: It should be fun Lakers and Jazz tonight at a
Speaker 1: thirty on ESPN.
Speaker 2: If you