WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:04.919 Welcome back Drive Time on ESPN seven hundred, Porter Larson 2 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:08.439 Tony Parks taking you through it all, of course, reacting 3 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:14.759 to Super Bowl fifty nine, the Philadelphia Eagles championship over 4 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:18.280 the Kansas City Chiefs, of course, the hopeful three peat 5 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:22.039 champions not to be. Robert Johnson joined us a little 6 00:00:22.039 --> 00:00:24.480 bit earlier to discuss at omar Ruiz of the NFL 7 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:28.000 Network as well. Big thanks to Tom Haverstrow talking some hoops. 8 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:32.240 If you missed any of that, just check the podcast 9 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:33.799 page a little bit later on. I'll have it up 10 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:37.600 and available for you then, as we'll be all of 11 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:41.320 ESPN seven hundred interviews and stuff from the Drive with Spence. 12 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:46.600 Check it's now two Stevenson cil Vester talking some football, 13 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:49.320 talking some Super Bowl with a guy who's played in 14 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:51.399 the damn game. Sly, how's it going man? 15 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:55.479 What's up? How you doing doing well? 16 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:58.359 Doing well? Tony Parks and I here holding the Ford 17 00:00:58.399 --> 00:00:59.280 down to day? 18 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:01.799 What's up? How are you? What's up? 19 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:02.039 Brother? 20 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:02.520 How you doing? 21 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:05.200 I'm great? Always appreciate your time. 22 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:05.560 Slide. 23 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:06.040 What's uh? 24 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:08.239 What's the Super Bowl look like in the house of 25 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:10.680 a guy who's who's played in one before? Is it, Uh, 26 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:13.959 get everyone out of the way, or uh, you know, 27 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:17.040 let you dial in or is it pretty relaxed and 28 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.359 you know, serving wings and dip like everyone else. 29 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:22.000 Oh no, no, I don't. I don't have anybody around. 30 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:23.760 Doesn't surprise me. 31 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:27.159 Nobody's around my house. It's a it's a thing, a stable. 32 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:29.239 Everybody tried to like what you guys doing, You wanna 33 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:30.359 get together. 34 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.439 We're just like no, no, no, and it's it. So 35 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:36.159 it's just me and my wife. We have a party 36 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:40.760 for two at the Sylvester household and and and that's it. 37 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:44.599 Nobody else is involved. It was actually funny. My wife's 38 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:47.519 nephew called during the game. He's like, hey, did you 39 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:48.719 see number fifty six? 40 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:49.480 Did your move? 41 00:01:50.120 --> 00:01:52.879 And and and then he just kept talking. He was 42 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:55.079 like watching the game and like talking. And then his 43 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:58.400 mom goes, you know, slide doesn't like to talk there 44 00:01:58.400 --> 00:01:58.840 in the game. 45 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:03.920 So it was funny. So like everybody knows that I 46 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:06.319 don't like people around, so it's good. But yeah, it's 47 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:07.879 just by myself. Yes, I see. 48 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:10.479 We used to have when I was younger, we had 49 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:12.919 you know, the really big Super Bowl party and all 50 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:16.159 of that stuff. But those games were always blowouts, so 51 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:19.639 it didn't really disrupt a lot. And it's fifty five 52 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:21.919 to ten and forty six to ten and all these, 53 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:25.159 you know, just massive blowouts. Well, then the games got good, 54 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:29.280 and when the games got good, it started to really 55 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:32.199 sour some key moments like I remember, you know, somebody 56 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:34.039 going off about how they hated their boss, and here's 57 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.439 John Elway driving down the field trying to win his 58 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:39.080 first Super Bowl two minutes to go, and it was just. 59 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:39.960 Driving me insane. 60 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:44.080 And I still remember a close friend of mine who 61 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:46.080 was like, yeah, we used to get everybody together, and 62 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:49.479 then here we are. We have Tom Brady and against 63 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:51.919 the Panthers, and it's back and forth in the fourth quarter, 64 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:55.719 and I keep hearing about Janet Jackson's nipple, and it's 65 00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:57.840 driving me in saying and I don't want to hear 66 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:01.400 about you know, like it kept getting so now more 67 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:02.159 and more I know. 68 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:04.199 Of different people. I know porters this way, I'm this way, 69 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:04.719 you're this way. 70 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:06.599 I thought I was kind of on an island there 71 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:08.520 for a bit, but more and more people are like, hey, 72 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:11.759 I wanted a smaller party and I wanted about the 73 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:15.159 game like that's and it sounds like that's exactly, uh. 74 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:16.680 The only way you've ever wanted it. 75 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:19.800 Man, you might be the only person that didn't want 76 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:21.439 to hear about Janet Jackson's nipple. 77 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:24.319 Yeah, I definitely wanted to hear that. 78 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:28.000 I actually was working that guy was. 79 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:28.800 I was board opping. 80 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:30.800 I was board opping at a station for the super Bowl, 81 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:33.599 and the next morning I get a phone call from 82 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:34.400 a producer going. 83 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:35.520 On he was working wardrobe. 84 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:37.759 Yeah, well no, yeah, right right. 85 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:39.599 I get this phone call and they're like, hey, why 86 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:41.120 don't we have anything on Janet Jackson? 87 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:42.879 I'm like, what about her? What are you talking about? 88 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:45.639 Because I was doing the radio, like board opping the radio, 89 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:48.120 so I wasn't watching the TV. I mean it was on, 90 00:03:48.199 --> 00:03:51.280 but I wasn't like intently watching the halftime show. So 91 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.759 I was so lost about what anybody was talking about. 92 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:56.840 And obviously, yeah, I was the last. 93 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.840 One to know. Magical moment. Man, it was magical. 94 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:03.680 But uh no, man, it's that was pretty wild. 95 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:05.960 Uh, yesterday, Porter and I've been talking about I mean, 96 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:08.960 the front four just decides to dominate right away, and 97 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:11.319 there are many times, you know, there's so many chapters 98 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:11.719 in a game. 99 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:12.520 It's a long game. 100 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:15.680 Things change, you never know but the way that the 101 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:19.360 four were just winning one on one matchups and collapse 102 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:22.720 in the pocket with ease, I thought to myself, Man, 103 00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:24.199 this might get really. 104 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:25.040 Bad in a hurry. 105 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:28.639 At what moment were you at all, like really worried 106 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:29.759 for Kansas City. 107 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:34.120 When the last touchdown of the first half it was 108 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:36.600 seventeen zero, I'm just like, all right, it's whatever, But 109 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:40.040 like I started to get worried for Kansas City. 110 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:42.279 Anyway, if anybody would be worried, it'd be like, oh, 111 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:43.240 this might get out of him. 112 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:46.160 Twenty four to zero and you go into halftime and 113 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:48.720 you got to sit for an hour for halftime show 114 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:51.399 and just and just stew on a twenty four to 115 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:54.759 zero lead. Like it's at that point that's where I 116 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:56.720 was just like, oh this is this is bad. But 117 00:04:56.800 --> 00:05:00.079 like cause, like even with the couple picks, anytime you 118 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:02.959 throw a pick six in a game, I don't know 119 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:06.519 what the statistic is, but you lose that game, I 120 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:09.480 would say over seventy five percent of the time, and 121 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:11.920 especially in the first half, because you don't give your 122 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.680 defense an opportunity to stop the other team, Like even 123 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:18.879 if they get a pick, even in their in your territory, 124 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:21.600 or whatever. That defense still has an opportunity to make 125 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:24.480 them only settle for three points or whatever, and that's a. 126 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:25.319 Win for the defense. 127 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:27.920 But when you give them seven points, there's nothing you 128 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:30.399 can do about that. And so that was a huge, 129 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:32.439 huge part because it was ten zero at that point 130 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:34.920 and then you do a pick six for a touchdown, 131 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:36.920 and then you get the ball back and plunt it 132 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:40.120 back to them and then they score again. At that point, 133 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:43.720 that was just a demoralizing eight minutes of the last 134 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:47.040 of the second quarter. And that just really like settle 135 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:49.439 things in because when your opponent now has all the 136 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:51.759 confidence in the world to where they think they could 137 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:54.160 just do whatever they want, and their defense was just 138 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:55.759 kicking your butt like crazy. 139 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:59.720 And yeah, as you said, you can't like blitz everybody. 140 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.399 Patrick Mahomes, he has great pre snap breeds and and 141 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.439 so he's gonna get rid of the football and make. 142 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:06.959 You hurt for it. 143 00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:09.399 But if you can win your one on one battles, 144 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:12.120 you could win with just four guys. That means you 145 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:16.000 got seven guys in coverage at all times. And Patrick 146 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:19.040 Mahomes doesn't have time. He's rushing the throws and that 147 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:21.639 is how you beat somebody as great as. 148 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:23.360 Patrick Mahomes and they just did it. 149 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:26.120 It wasn't I didn't think like they just confused them 150 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:28.120 with the looks they were doing. I mean even the 151 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:30.839 pick six was just a cover four, three hundred four 152 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:34.079 deep and Cooper dejen just made an athlete play right. 153 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:37.079 Like we saw in the last game against Utah versus 154 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:41.360 UCF when Smith Snowden's interception for a touchdown. 155 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:42.360 I talked to him after the game. 156 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:44.759 He's just like, man, they tried it to play before 157 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:47.360 and the exact same thing. I just came off of 158 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:49.160 my guy and I made a play. Same thing with 159 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:51.000 Cooper Degen. He should have been a little bit more 160 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:53.120 out to the flats, but he saw the guy coming 161 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:55.639 across the middle and he's like, wait for it, wait 162 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:58.680 for it, ballam, and he just made a play. Man, 163 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:01.920 So make plays. And that's exactly what it does. And 164 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:05.399 there's no better birthday gift than it picks six homes 165 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:06.399 in the Super Bowl. 166 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:10.040 Sly, you mentioned obviously the four man rush that was 167 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:14.160 able to get pressure on Patrick without sending an extra guy. 168 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:18.680 It allowed the Eagles to drop seven in coverage oftentimes, 169 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:22.240 and a lot of the magic that Mahomes makes is 170 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:25.720 capitalizing when teams blitz him. Right, That's a lot of 171 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:29.639 times the spectacular plays you see him make are are 172 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:34.120 correlative with the other team blitzing. Is it that simple 173 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:38.879 that that is the the that that is the recipe 174 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:41.319 that Eagles used to beat him? Or was there anything 175 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:44.079 that you saw, as you mentioned maybe pre snap, maybe 176 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:47.920 disguising things. What was it from an NFL linebacker's perspective 177 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:51.519 that they did maybe beyond just the four man rush, 178 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:54.040 because I've been hitting that over the head all day long, 179 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:57.360 but it seems almost a little too simple to be true. 180 00:07:57.920 --> 00:07:58.199 Yeah. 181 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:02.800 Well, the Super Bowl game it's self is extremely hard 182 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:05.800 to play because of all of the media, the marketing, 183 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:10.480 the TV time outs, the pregame, the halftime. It's just 184 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:15.040 a much longer football game. And so making adjustments isn't 185 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:17.759 as easy as that because you have the ability to 186 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:20.879 just stew on your mistakes and then it just capitalizes. 187 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:25.519 But like pre snap, no, I think pre snap, Patrick 188 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:28.160 Mahomes understands is like, Okay, they're not blitzing. 189 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:34.159 That means as a quarterback, I can hold the football. 190 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:35.039 And so in his mind, pre snap, he's like, okay, 191 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:37.000 they got seven deep, I can hold the football. 192 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:39.120 My clock in my head, shit, have gave me two 193 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:40.399 or three extra seconds. 194 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:42.919 But these guys are winning their one on one battles, 195 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:44.840 and so that two or three seconds just isn't there. 196 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:47.360 So now I have to scramble out of the pocket 197 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:50.720 against an athletic defensive line, which means I'm not gonna 198 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:53.960 be able to set back up and deliver an accurate pass, 199 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:58.399 let alone Travis Kelsey and jon Dre Hopkins and Hollywood 200 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.759 Brown dropping footballs, which isn't helping either. 201 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:05.879 Like the timing was just off, And that's what you do. 202 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:08.919 That's that's what you teach, right, What is the best 203 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:12.440 coverage on the back end, A good pass rush? What's 204 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:15.240 the best pass rush, A good coverage on the back end. 205 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:18.440 That's complimentary defense. And that's what the Eagles were doing. 206 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:20.919 It wasn't the disguise as I said. They played that 207 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:24.679 cover four three hundred four deep. You could see that 208 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:28.720 that was easy. There wasn't nothing that really disguised that, right, 209 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:32.440 Like I just listened to something where Jayden Daniels was 210 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:36.879 talking about playing the Baltimore Ravens and Kyle Hamilton's up 211 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:38.679 at the line of scrimmage and then at the snap 212 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:41.559 he drops thirty yards back into the deep third, Like 213 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:44.799 you weren't seeing that with the Eagles, like and so like, 214 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:48.399 it's just an understanding, and I think Porter it's it 215 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:51.279 is as simple when you're one on one battles and 216 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:53.919 compliment your coverage on the back end and you win 217 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:54.720 football games. 218 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:58.559 You talk about the length of the Super Bowl, the stoppages, 219 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.360 the long amount of time. At what point could you 220 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:04.320 feel that most like, Wow, this is different. 221 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:06.039 I mean the glitz, the glamour. 222 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:08.039 We know about the hype, but just in terms of 223 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:10.639 the length of it and how different the timing now 224 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:13.720 is and just how unique that one game is compared 225 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:14.320 to all others. 226 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:15.879 Are you asking me personally? 227 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.480 Yeah, oh, when you're in the stadium, when you're there 228 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:20.039 and the whole process of it all. 229 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:24.600 It was literally in the pregame in the warm ups, right, 230 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:26.799 And I saw it on Patrick Mahomes's face too as 231 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:30.159 they were singing God Bless America and national Anthem and 232 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:32.399 all of this stuff too. It's just like like you 233 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:35.360 get hyped running out of the tunnel, right, you run 234 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:36.679 out of the tunnel, you gotta singing. 235 00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:40.039 You don't kick off for another thirty five minutes. I 236 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:43.200 didn't notice that, Like, but it's it sucks. Man. 237 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:46.320 I'm standing we run out of tunnel, I'm all juiced. 238 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:48.600 I'm like, let's go. Yeah, I'm about to run down 239 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:50.039 on this kickoff YadA. 240 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:53.080 And then I'm standing next to Christina Aguilera before she 241 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:57.159 goes and sings the national anthem, and next to you know, 242 00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:59.600 God Bless America and then like, oh crap, we haven't 243 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:00.039 even done. 244 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:02.440 Coin toss and you're on your feet the whole time, 245 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:03.039 and you're on. 246 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:06.399 Your feet the entire time, and then they gotta do uh, 247 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:10.720 they gotta do interviews before like they interviewed Jalen Hurts, 248 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:14.559 they interviewed the coach, they interviewed Patrick Mahomes, and before 249 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:15.799 the kickoff even started. 250 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:17.080 There's a lot of time. 251 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:20.519 And that's just like for me, I'm just like I'm 252 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:22.559 hip coming out of the tunnel and the next you know, 253 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:26.279 and you gotta build that back up and so like, 254 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:29.240 and that's where the Kansas City's experience would come in. 255 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:31.759 But at the same time, a game is a game, 256 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:35.759 and you throw all of these uh, these distractions and 257 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:38.679 and things in there, it's so easy to be affected. 258 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:41.519 And for me watching Patrick Mahomes, I just saw a 259 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:42.320 lot of frustration. 260 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:44.639 I saw a lot of and I don't. 261 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:48.000 Know what his pre Super Bowl game was like this 262 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:50.279 whole Super Bowl week, but I had to imagine it 263 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:54.279 was a lot between family, between friends, between media interviews, 264 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:59.000 between what was asked for him. I can't imagine what 265 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:01.440 he was going through and and and the amount of 266 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:04.919 distraction that he was faced with heading into this and 267 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:09.039 and so that plays a huge, huge dividend and actually 268 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:10.360 performing in the game. 269 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:12.799 And I honestly, for me, they. 270 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:17.240 Did a solo shot of Patrick Mahomes, you know, as 271 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:19.200 the national anthem was being sung, and I'm just like, 272 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:20.799 that's gotta be frustrating. 273 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:22.960 You just sit there and just do all of this stuff. 274 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:25.960 And so that's just a crappy part of the game 275 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:29.399 of the Super Bowl game to me. And honestly, they're 276 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:31.000 not going to change it because of how much money 277 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:34.240 they make, right But but it's definitely something that you know, 278 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:38.200 coaches or experienced people have to game plan for it 279 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:38.840 by itself. 280 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:44.679 So is there any reason to believe one of the 281 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:48.240 Eagles or the Chiefs shouldn't be back at least to 282 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:51.519 a maybe a conference title next year? Which which of 283 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:54.799 those teams is best suited or which concerns do you 284 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:55.960 have about either one of them? 285 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:56.879 Getting back to this. 286 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:02.879 Point, man, everybody's unnotice everybody is unnoticed. You know, everything's 287 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:06.480 about matchups, right, and when you win, a lot of 288 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:11.759 people disperse, rosters disperse, you know, administration, coaching staffs, there's 289 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:13.960 a lot of people that go elsewhere. Right, we were 290 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:17.080 talking about Kellen Moore leaving now might be the head. 291 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:18.080 Coach of the of the Saints. 292 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:20.240 I don't know if that's official yet, but it might 293 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:22.279 be the head coach of the Saints. Right, Like how 294 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:25.200 important was Kellen Moore to the play calling this year? 295 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:25.679 Right? 296 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.080 How important is is UH Steve Spagnola? 297 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:32.200 What if he leaves? Right to them? 298 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:37.120 It's a long football season right now, seventeen games, playoffs, 299 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:40.039 you got to do that over and over again, and like, 300 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:43.039 and everybody's now looking at Kansas City. 301 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:44.559 I mean I said it in my show the other 302 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:45.080 last week. 303 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:49.720 It's like the Texans did a good job against Kansas City, right, 304 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:52.960 And so with that pass rush, Kansas City got helped 305 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:57.320 out a lot with UH, with calls and situational things 306 00:13:57.360 --> 00:13:59.799 where their defense helped them out and got points and 307 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:02.120 then the Texans kind of lost it in the end, 308 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:04.399 but that was but that was a good football game 309 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:04.759 from them. 310 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:06.519 Right. The AFC is tough. 311 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:11.759 You got Pittsburgh, you got Baltimore, you got the Texans, 312 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:13.799 you got the Bengals who're gonna come up, you got 313 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:15.080 the Bills who want to to. 314 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:18.120 To have a rematch and another go at it to 315 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:19.120 go back again. 316 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:21.799 It's tough all in the same. But I mean, I 317 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:23.879 don't think so. I don't think either of these teams 318 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:26.679 will be back next year. And so this moment was 319 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:28.799 was huge for you to take advantage of the moment 320 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:30.480 because you never know when you be back. 321 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:33.000 Right, Like my rookie year I went there, I was 322 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.879 just like, oh, we'll be back. We didn't even we 323 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:36.279 didn't go. 324 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:38.639 We lost in the wild card the next year, and 325 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:41.159 so like, man, it's it's tough sledding getting to the 326 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:43.200 Super Bowl, man, So you got to cherish each moment. 327 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:45.799 But next year, I don't I think the Chiefs are 328 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:48.519 on notice as far as being exposed and how to 329 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:50.919 beat them, and then the Eagles as well. I just 330 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:52.840 I think there's a lot of things that they'll break 331 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:56.759 up This year, from from personnel getting new new contracts, 332 00:14:56.799 --> 00:15:01.399 from free agency to coaching staff taking jobs, they're gonna 333 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:03.320 be a new little team. And you got to watch 334 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:07.600 the Commanders, the Detroit Lions and the Buccaneers and teams 335 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:10.080 like that who were surging in the NFC. 336 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:13.200 So it's gonna look different in the super Bowl next year, 337 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:13.559 for sure. 338 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:16.960 Well that's what I wanted to get your take on too. 339 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:18.879 As you mentioned, you were in the super Bowl the 340 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:21.559 next year. You guys had a great regular season, got 341 00:15:21.559 --> 00:15:24.279 trucked by Baltimore that first game, but you're still a 342 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:27.240 twelve win team. All of that, even with the success 343 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:31.559 and the expectation. How do you describe just how different 344 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:35.559 every season actually is. It's almost like each season has 345 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:36.600 its own life, right. 346 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:40.320 Yeah, it's just like for me, heading into the playoffs, right, 347 00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:46.120 forget your season, your season record, right, that means nothing. 348 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:49.039 It only means something if you're able to get some 349 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:52.200 kind of home field advantage or be able to play 350 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:54.360 in your home stadium. But your records, the way you 351 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:56.960 played the team the last time you played them means 352 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:00.000 nothing going into the playoffs. And so the very next year, 353 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.440 the same thing you can't think about last year. Oh, 354 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:04.200 last year, we made it. That means we'll make it 355 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:06.679 this year. Absolutely not. It doesn't even mean you'll make 356 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:09.360 it to the playoffs. There's so many things that go in, 357 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:11.879 so many new people. Do they buy into the culture, 358 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:15.000 do they buy into all of the medias? Can they 359 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:17.120 handle themselves professionally. 360 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:20.240 To get back to this point? Right? Like, the Chiefs 361 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:21.559 have won in so many. 362 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:23.960 Different ways, and now they've lost a couple times in 363 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:25.039 a couple different ways. 364 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:25.320 Right. 365 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:29.279 They've won with not the best record. They've run with 366 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:33.440 a passing threat. They've won with a rushing threat, with 367 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:37.320 no tight end, with no receivers having any touchdowns only 368 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:39.360 the tight ends throughout the season, and they went all 369 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:41.240 the way and won in the Super Bowl. They've done 370 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:43.879 it so many different ways, but you can't guarantee that 371 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:46.159 that way is gonna work this next year. And so 372 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:49.679 now everybody knows the Kansas City Chiefs is beatable, and 373 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:51.960 so they're gonna bring their best effort all the time, 374 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.200 and so hopefully, you know, cooler heads prevail and Andy 375 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:57.759 Reid is just who he. 376 00:16:57.679 --> 00:16:58.759 Is, you're in and you're out. 377 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:02.440 And Patrick Mahomes get to his greatness and what he 378 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:05.039 is and he recognizes where he went wrong in this game. 379 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:07.519 But you know there's a lot of teams gonna be 380 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:10.200 striving out there. Man, it says new year. You got 381 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:12.519 to treat it as that year. Last year does not 382 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:15.559 go into this year. There's nothing from this year that 383 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:19.400 the kssas city Chiefs can take into next year. You know, 384 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:22.640 the experience, all of that stuff, I mean, it all 385 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:25.880 goes out the window because football being the ultimate team sport, 386 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:28.920 everybody's got to work together. You're gonna get new personnel 387 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:33.160 from the draft, from free agency, from attrition, and you're 388 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:35.240 gonna have to work with that in different capacities. 389 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:37.039 So it's gonna look crazy next year. 390 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:40.599 Say you mentioned how cyclical things are and how you 391 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:44.200 can't necessarily bank on a team just from them being 392 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.359 here this year being their next year. With that in mind, 393 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:50.519 how impressive is it that the Eagles last year the 394 00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:52.799 collapse that they had, and then you look at the 395 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:57.200 offseason that Howie Roseman had the offensive line that he built. 396 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:01.400 This offseason he signed Sekwon Barkley, Quinn and Mitchell did 397 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:05.359 Cooper Dejene. He hired Vic Fangio and Kellen Moore. And 398 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:08.799 this is after losing a Hall of Famer in Jason Kelce, 399 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:12.200 and you lose Reddick in the offseason as well. I mean, 400 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:15.160 I can't think in recent memory, at least on paper, 401 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:19.720