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<v Speaker 1>Callaroga Shark Media. Hello, they are Johnny Mack with your

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<v Speaker 1>daily comedy news. I have not yet watched this Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Dillon thing on Netflix. As I've mentioned the past, I

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<v Speaker 1>like Tim Dillon a lot, although I'm not sure this

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<v Speaker 1>particular special that I haven't seen is what I want

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<v Speaker 1>out of him. Why haven't you watch it? Johnny Mack?

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<v Speaker 1>The Mets are in the playoffs. There was the debates

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night. I played trivia, so I'm not home. I

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<v Speaker 1>will get to it. The folks at OutKick spoke to

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Dillon and they called Tim Dillon legendary, tap the

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<v Speaker 1>brakes legendary. Really, I'll tell you what. Why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>walk down the street and ask the next five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>people you meet who Tim Dillon is. I am willing

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<v Speaker 1>to wager you you go zero for five hundred, not

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<v Speaker 1>even one for five hundred, zero for five hundred. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're at a college or something, you might get

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<v Speaker 1>better numbers, but you know, go to the mall and

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<v Speaker 1>ask some people who Tim Dillon is. Legendary? A little

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<v Speaker 1>strong there. The La Times did see Tim Dillon and special.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what they said. Apparently, the conversation with Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>was never to do a comedy special. The conversation was,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want to do? Netflix wanted something unique

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<v Speaker 1>and unscripted. Tim says, initially they brought something political and

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't really into that. I wanted to bring back

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<v Speaker 1>nineties trash TV. That's what we did, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>nineties trash TV talk show. So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>i'd call it a comedy special. I mean, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to call it that on Netflix, because I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they have a term for it, but it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. It ends up being a better satire

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<v Speaker 1>of America than a political special or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>doing something at a convention or doing some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>daily show ripoff. I think it ends up being a

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<v Speaker 1>really good satire of America because they're all real people

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<v Speaker 1>that have come to talk about things that are real

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<v Speaker 1>cultural themes. There's no script and we basically don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where any of it's going to me that's what makes

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<v Speaker 1>it fun. It's not really knowing what's gonna happen. We

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<v Speaker 1>shot a bunch of segments and we only use five

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<v Speaker 1>because we thought they were the most interesting and the

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<v Speaker 1>funniest and the best. That's the thing. Not knowing what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen is what I like about the format.

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<v Speaker 1>This project was about learning to be a good interview

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<v Speaker 1>where it's learning to work with the crowd, which I

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<v Speaker 1>know how to do from stand up, but it's learning

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<v Speaker 1>to integrate all of those different elements into it to

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<v Speaker 1>make it feel like it's got a flow and the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd is to be it. The people on stage have

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<v Speaker 1>to be into it, you hope the people watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously you are into it. So you've got to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that it's not only entertaining in the room and

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<v Speaker 1>interesting in the room, but that it's going to translate

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<v Speaker 1>when it's on Netflix. I'm confused because everybody keeps asking

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<v Speaker 1>if these are real people. I'm morning, if anyone's been

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<v Speaker 1>outside in the last few years. I mean, what a

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<v Speaker 1>lovely view of the country that you almost have. The

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<v Speaker 1>hollerand Reporter caught on that Michael Chay is working on

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<v Speaker 1>a late night talk show. You listen to this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>so you knew that because I mentioned it, because I

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<v Speaker 1>read Late Night Er, which is where the Hollywood reporter

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<v Speaker 1>is catching wind of all this. The working title Don't

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<v Speaker 1>Sleep With Michael Chay. Jay says he's still sorting it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you just got to motivate yourself to get on

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<v Speaker 1>stage and try things, especially me, because I'll come up

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<v Speaker 1>with an idea and that I'll get bored and it

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<v Speaker 1>dies in my imagination. So I have no idea where

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<v Speaker 1>this goes. But you never know. Maybe nbc'll put it

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<v Speaker 1>on at three in the morning. Jay has stopped short

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<v Speaker 1>of shopping the show around a lot of s's in

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<v Speaker 1>that sentence Johnny Mack, you'd like to keep testing it

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<v Speaker 1>with audiences, Jay explains, I always think comedy fans select

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<v Speaker 1>what they want to see, and so ideally I just

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<v Speaker 1>do it live for a while and listen to what

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<v Speaker 1>the response is and find the identity of the show

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<v Speaker 1>that way, and then have something to say, well, is

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<v Speaker 1>this part of an SNL exit strategy? Chase says, you

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<v Speaker 1>get moments where you love it so much that is

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<v Speaker 1>Drasha crazy, and you want to be as far away

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<v Speaker 1>from it as possible. Will he come back for the

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<v Speaker 1>fifty first season? I don't know if you know this.

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<v Speaker 1>SNL is turning fifty this year, and we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it every day for the next eight months.

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<v Speaker 1>I've updated the calendar. It's only eight months now. Jay says,

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<v Speaker 1>I try not to think about that because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it ruins the morale for the rest of this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you never know. As for the talk show,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having fun, but it's like any relationship that's new,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't start talking marriage too soon. The second Gentleman,

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<v Speaker 1>Doug m hoff enjoys macpacker Andy Samberg's portrayal of him

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<v Speaker 1>on SNL. Doug Emmahoff was on The Jennifer Hudson Show

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday, which Johnny Mack just learned to exists. Doug said,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been watching that show my whole life, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think somebody's playing me. First of all, it's wow, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I got a hand it to Andy Samberg did

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<v Speaker 1>a good job. He also likes Maya Rudolph as wife

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris. Doug says, she's so good as Kamala. She

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<v Speaker 1>did a really good job. Nate Bergatzy hosts Saturday Night

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<v Speaker 1>Live this Saturday. I don't know if you heard. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the fiftieth season. We're going to talk about it every

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<v Speaker 1>day for eight month. He has another gig. He has

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<v Speaker 1>joined the advisory Board of Directors at the National Comedy Center.

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<v Speaker 1>In a statement, Nate said, I've immersed myself in the

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<v Speaker 1>exhibits for hours each time I've explored the National Comedy

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<v Speaker 1>Center in Jamestown. It's the only place that truly celebrates

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<v Speaker 1>the essence of what we do. For an artist, It's

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<v Speaker 1>a tribute to this thing we work so hard at,

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<v Speaker 1>and for the average visitor, it pulls back the curtain

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<v Speaker 1>on what elevates it to being an art. The experience

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<v Speaker 1>is just awesome. Also on the board of directors Amy Poehler,

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<v Speaker 1>wkmal Bell, Lewis Black, Tiffany Hattish, and Jim Gaffigan, who

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<v Speaker 1>said stand up means so much to me, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy to be welcoming my good friend Nates, who shares

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling and who also supports the Comedy Center's work

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<v Speaker 1>to preserve the history of our craft while showcasing the process.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems like you all enjoyed Shane Brendan on a Saturday's

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<v Speaker 1>episode of this podcast. That's good. I enjoyed him a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>His new album is out either way, pretty funny, Brendan

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<v Speaker 1>told The Portland Tribune, and I can't speak for the

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<v Speaker 1>entirety of the comedy community, but for me personally, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to find something funny. Comics are regular people. They

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<v Speaker 1>go through emotions and everything else, but the comic brain

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<v Speaker 1>never shuts off no matter how dark things get. I

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge the darkness and the same breath. There's an angle

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<v Speaker 1>here in this moment of not feeling great. What makes

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<v Speaker 1>me feel good? I'm not on the edgy and devisive side.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of my stuff is personal. Spoilers for that

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Fallon a Halloween thing. The av Club had it

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<v Speaker 1>over there. They say, you are in Jimmy Fallon's bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dark, dank at chili space, bathing an eerie,

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<v Speaker 1>musty fog that laps up your ankles. You're taking your surroundings,

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<v Speaker 1>noticing a half open picture book and shivering at the

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<v Speaker 1>sight of the murky green glow emanating from under Jimmy's bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Carson rolls over in his grave. You hear Fallon's

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<v Speaker 1>voice echoing around you, but you cannot see him. This

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<v Speaker 1>You feel the need to escape, to hide. See a

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<v Speaker 1>It leads to a small black ante chamber, and now

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Fallon's mind as Jack Parr rolls over in his grave.

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<v Speaker 1>Nowbe's the premise of Tonightmares, the av Club. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>concept so demented that it could only have come from

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<v Speaker 1>the twisted imagination of the man who brought you all

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<v Speaker 1>about that base performed on xylophone. I'm going to guess

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<v Speaker 1>it came from the mind of NBZ executives who were like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we make a lot of money here at Christmas time,

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<v Speaker 1>what can we suck the tourist in with at Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna guess that's where it came from. And Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>just went, yeah, sure we could do that. But what

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<v Speaker 1>do I know. I'm recording a podcast in the basement.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also aware I name checked all the Tonight Show

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<v Speaker 1>primary hosts except Conan O'Brien didn't have a ConA joke

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<v Speaker 1>for you, Zari. I'm a guy in a basement recording

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast. Jimmy found Tonightmare or this is a new

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<v Speaker 1>haunted attraction. You see up until now Rockefeller Center with

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<v Speaker 1>its skating rink, music hall, roquettes and the Big Tree

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<v Speaker 1>has owned Christmas. It's a logical next step to turn

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<v Speaker 1>the complex into a destination for another major holiday, filling

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<v Speaker 1>a Jecklin Hyde Club shaped hole in the city's Halloween market.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite me mocking this thing, it is not the worst idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Know that area very well. I worked across the street

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<v Speaker 1>for quite a few years. It's not the worst idea,

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<v Speaker 1>And the tourist kind of it sucked away like it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't bother the real New Yorkers. If the tourists want

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<v Speaker 1>to go over there and do this, fine, Wow, this

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a big thing. Av club rights. After descending

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<v Speaker 1>the escalator, I went through a metal detector and took

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<v Speaker 1>note of the warning sign which cost visitors not to

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<v Speaker 1>enter the experience if they have a medical sensitivity to

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<v Speaker 1>strobe lights or fog through the doors spoilers. We found

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves in a pre show room themed like a decrepit

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<v Speaker 1>elevator loading dock. It was filled with rusty pipes and

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<v Speaker 1>flickering lights, complete with a wall of old control switches.

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<v Speaker 1>The vibes of Oke the loading zone of Disney World's

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<v Speaker 1>Twilight Zone Tower of Terror. Right, this doesn't sound horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>After Jimmy set the scene, the down light lit up,

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<v Speaker 1>think people who like Orlando coated things in the heart

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<v Speaker 1>of Midtown, who appreciate the immersive thrills of forty X

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<v Speaker 1>and the Top of the Rock Beam and the stupid

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<v Speaker 1>fun of Margaritaville Times Square, we call those tourists. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>find this worth the cost of admission. People who want

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<v Speaker 1>a truly haunting experience can visit the American Girl Doll

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<v Speaker 1>Store just upstairs. Hey, it's always great to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>you all. I'll put my contact in the show notes today.

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<v Speaker 1>A friend of the show, Scott Beckett, and I were

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<v Speaker 1>emailing the other day. Appreciated that, and I heard from

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<v Speaker 1>Travis who hit me a note on the side and

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<v Speaker 1>tell me yakof Mernoff's podcast is pretty good. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>added that to my endless qu of things I'm never

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<v Speaker 1>going to get to, which reminds me I have a

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<v Speaker 1>substack and every week on Wednesday, I do podcast listening recommendations,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you want to check that out link in

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<v Speaker 1>the show notes. I caught up on The Simpsons the

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<v Speaker 1>other night between the Met's playoff game and the VP debate.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the Simpsons series finale. Very very good at times,

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<v Speaker 1>even touching. I think they absolutely nailed it, although I'm

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<v Speaker 1>shocked Conan O'Brien can't deliver lines a little better than

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<v Speaker 1>he did. The Office Ladies have made it to their

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<v Speaker 1>end of their rewatch, so were they ending the podcast? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Jennif Fisher and Angela Kinsey will now have the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>twice a week asterisk. As of early November, Office Ladies

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<v Speaker 1>will have two episodes. The Wednesday episode will be called

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<v Speaker 1>Office Ladies six point zero, a reference to the season

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<v Speaker 1>one episode Hot Girl, when Michael Scott insults Pam by

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<v Speaker 1>comparing her to Amy Adams character. New episodes will feature

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<v Speaker 1>new interviews, more stories from the set, and they're patented

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<v Speaker 1>deep dives into random topics and in depth of character studies.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the second episode? They're just rerunning the rewatch

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<v Speaker 1>as somewhat of a podcast expert. Rerun episodes are lame,

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<v Speaker 1>so why are they doing it? Because they want the inventory.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, but it's lame because if you've listened

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<v Speaker 1>to the show, you're just gonna delete all those It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna goof you up in the charts. It's gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>people actually unsubscribe to the show because they're gonna be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard all these I'll just download them manually and

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<v Speaker 1>then you break the habit so bad move office, ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you now. Bossom Usef is taping his

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<v Speaker 1>at New special tomorrow. He'll be at the Wiltern in

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<v Speaker 1>La also recording tomorrow and on the fifth at Cobbs

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<v Speaker 1>Comedy Club in San Francisco. Irene TiO her show in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four was named one of the funniest by

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<v Speaker 1>the La Times. I like both of those comedians a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm on the East Coast, so I won't be

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<v Speaker 1>at either taping, and that is you're co many news

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<v Speaker 1>for today. If you'd like the podcast without commercial interruption,

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<v Speaker 1>check the show notes. If you'd like to email me

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