Speaker 1: I never embarrassing. That's embarrassing.
Speaker 2: That's embarrassing.
Speaker 1: It's really good taking a picture.
Speaker 3: Of Tim's got gaining some bad head over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, better than no head at all. Who are you? Oh,
big and a sweetie?
Speaker 1: Uh? Sitting in Minnesota being like, how am I wasting
my Sunday afternoon with this bullshits calon San Diego? She
loves it? And Uh sitting here being like, what the
hell is beer?
Speaker 3: Zachi bananas and Margot bananas?
Speaker 2: Dare you?
Speaker 1: Don't you drag my dog into that?
Speaker 4: Calm and dear a dog?
Speaker 2: I think you just married the dog.
Speaker 1: Hey, everybody head over to challenge by about dog during
the faces that.
Speaker 3: I mean, she's rolling over for belly robs.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, dogs, yes, right there.
Speaker 4: Congratulations mister Wolford, I am.
Speaker 5: I am calling Animal Protective Services on you.
Speaker 4: You have allowed your dog.
Speaker 5: In a because she's your dog, and you have allowed
your dog to be put into a compromising situation where
she's apparently not married to Zach Bananas.
Speaker 1: She would never leave with him.
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. Zach's a turmer, all right.
Speaker 1: Who's got notes for this episode?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: This is episode fast.
Speaker 1: That's me.
Speaker 2: It's called the death Role.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is dumb.
Speaker 2: But before we talk about it, we we can't talk
about it yet. I guess that's what I'm trying to say,
because this episode originally aired on August twenty, two thousand
and six, but it's not August twenty, two thousand and six,
so we have to go back there the ar mind.
Speaker 4: To do that.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about things that were happening at this time, Carlin.
Speaker 1: What were the top TV shows at.
Speaker 5: The time, Dancing with the Stars, American Idol and CSI Miami,
you got it?
Speaker 1: This is a This is a bad segment for a
show that covers stuff week after week.
Speaker 2: There's some differences, though. Top movies are different. Invincible is
the top movie.
Speaker 3: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: I remember this one.
Speaker 1: What's in the Wahlberg football movie?
Speaker 3: The true story of the guy in his like thirties
that just walks on and becomes a pro football player
in the seventies.
Speaker 2: Okay, Also beer Fest and I did watch that and
enjoyed it. Little Miss Sun it was a fantastic fucking movie.
Speaker 3: That I've heard though, so good. It's so good of
to add it to the schedule.
Speaker 2: Top songs at the time. We have a new entry,
Deja Vu by Beyonce featuring jay Z singing for me Carlin,
good job nothing, yep, not even gonna, not even.
Speaker 3: Now desa deja deja.
Speaker 2: I don't know that song.
Speaker 1: Well, I do better than I don't even know now,
I don't know that one, you know?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: And the MTV Music Awards were right around the corner,
held just three days after this, with pre show performers
like Fergie your favorite. Uh, Mervin Wood died also guys,
Mervin Wood, Yeah, good old Mervin. Sorry, rest in peace.
He's an Olympic rower. I'm surprised you haven't heard of him.
All right, Well that's it. I'll be back in two
thousand and six in our minds. Sure, all right, good
to know. This is episode fifteen. This is called death Roll.
We start off with DM telling Tina how relieved she
was to see them come back, which, of course she
was the weaker team. That's who you want.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And Derek Uh, he's doing his emotional dramatic thing that
he does this season. He's like, I don't want to
fail DM challenges for her, just for her. I just
want to do it for her, for her, for her
for her but.
Speaker 1: Is she so pretty good girl? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And Derell says he's not worried about exile. He's three
for four, he's ready to go. I'll do exile if
he has to, but he doesn't want to. And Tina,
for her part, thinks that Darrell is going to try
to pit them against Wes and Casey for the final exile.
Speaker 1: And that's it, guys.
Speaker 2: With that, we're onto the challenge already.
Speaker 1: I'm much as ready. Yep.
Speaker 2: This one's called what a crocsac? How do you play
this game?
Speaker 3: There's a giant like horizontal, two headed crocodile statue and
each team has to have both partners hold on to
it on opposite sides and this spins around and you
need to sound as long as you can without either
falling off or touching the pole that's holding it up.
Speaker 2: So they call this a crocodile. I don't know if
it's a crocodile or alligator. Carling, do you know, well they.
Speaker 4: Have in Australia, okays all of us.
Speaker 1: You would know what's the difference.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not a like an eight year old
boy who I don't know it's something about their teeth,
like one has teeth on the inside of their mouth
and the other one has teeth on the outside of.
Speaker 4: The not the outside they'd like stick out. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I believe one is just the overall size falls. I
think one of them has the much longer point to
your like mouth and nose, and the other one has
a shorter, more compact one.
Speaker 2: I've always heard that it was that alligator rhymes with
see you later, and crocodile r.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you are so fucking lame.
Speaker 2: Other than that, they're exactly the same as far as
I'm concerned. And this is really neither of them, because
it's really like two heads of something either of them
put together. It's nothing really, it's just a piece of wood.
But they also win a kicker audio car audio system.
Speaker 3: Crocodiles have long point to snow aligars how short rounded snouts.
Speaker 2: All right, hey, we're learning stuff.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 2: I actually have no idea what differences are, nor do
I care.
Speaker 3: I just like to put people in the spot with
weird cocktails tend to live near salt water well algaism
of primarily fresh water.
Speaker 2: I'm scared of both you also want to kick a
car audio system. I was in a car audio at
the time. Well, if you remember my car audio players,
they're fucking sweet. Sure, a bunch of sluboffers that would
rattle windows and shit, it was awesome, all right, that
was the time.
Speaker 1: That was the era.
Speaker 2: The difference between this one though, guys, whoever wins this
challenge gets to peak both teams in exile. That's a
big change. Usually it's one team and then a vote,
you know whatever. Uh, this had to be a change
because of Evan and Coral, right, that's why they changed
this possibly, I think so sure, I'm gonna go I'll
take your word for it, sax thinking about it while
I'm just gonna assume.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: So, I think the reason is because normally you would
pick one team, right, and then the other teams would vote.
So if you had one onund one that gets thrown in,
there'd only be two teams voting, so it'd be an
amac fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: But if there was three teams voting, you would be
able to vote, you would there was another if there's
another team there to vote.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I believe the rules say that there's a tie.
Usually the winning team breaks it. So at that point,
both teams are going to vote for each other, so
the winner would be the tiebreaker anyway, but.
Speaker 2: There'd be an extra team if Kenny and if and Cora.
Speaker 1: Was still there.
Speaker 2: Well yes, so it wouldn't be even at the end,
it would happen.
Speaker 3: No, no, because yeah this went, there'd be five teams left.
Speaker 2: Yeah so yeah, yeah, uh all right. I do like these, like,
you know, these confessionals before the challenge starts, what they're
talking about, strategy and shit like that. I like it
in games like this where there really is no strategy,
where Casey just says like I'm just gonna hold on
like and just try to do it, which is like that's.
Speaker 1: All you can do. So this is a challenge where
you have to hold on, try to stay on for
as long as you can. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Remarkably in the Wes and Casey duo, West falls first,
kind of surprising generally speaking, I think men do worse
than women in this change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, your impression unless you're a vive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll get to that one. West falls first,
so he's done, Kenny and uh Tina. Kenny touches the pole,
so they're disqualified for dim. Her arm did touch the pole,
so DIM got eliminated. But yes, as you said, uh, zach,
Aviv like just can't do it, Like her legs don't touch,
she can't loop her feet around so the others can.
Speaker 1: And literally did one rotation.
Speaker 2: She's like, yep, I think she did three rotations total
across her three rounds, unfortunately. And yeah, that's it. So
round number two is the same, except instead of each
of you grabbing the croc, you're grabbing each other around.
Speaker 1: The croc sixty nine position.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now do you think they made this change just
because they saw Viv couldn't do it, so they had
to like have someone hold on door.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't even think about that. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what I was wondering, Like, was
this always set up different positions for each round or Yeah?
Speaker 3: My thought was they were like, well, how can we
make this fair so Vieve has a chance to like, well,
what if we give it so Drell can like hold
her legs for her.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we didn't say maybe talk like that.
Speaker 1: We saw Kenny trying to hold Tina's vagina.
Speaker 2: I have that Kenny grabbed Tina by the pussy. Must
have learned that from President Trump. Before it was cool
before you could grab people by the pussy. Now it's
totally legal and fine, right, Coron.
Speaker 1: Well he said it was totally legal back then. They
just let you do it as long as you're famous.
Speaker 2: We couldn't do it. I guess we have to be
more famous.
Speaker 3: Tina didn't seem that upset about it, No, she just like,
don't grab my pussy.
Speaker 5: No, but we all know that Tina wants him to
do that anyway.
Speaker 3: She's like, don't grab my pussy until we go.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Derek and dm they hit the pole again, I don't
remember which one did, and dre the Viv. Yeah, they
fall instantly again. Around three just seems to be more
of the same. Derellan Aviv. They just can't do it,
Like there's no strategy that Derella and Aviv are going
to be able to do this more than one spin.
Speaker 1: It's like this seems like Drell's trying to just hold
her feet and he's not holding the alligator, crocodile whatever. Yeah,
and it literally is just like no, just.
Speaker 5: Immediately, Yeah, they end up like full like spread eagle
and have space in between them and the croc and
keep slamming into it like this is never gonna work, dude.
Speaker 2: I think at this point they've resigned that they just
can't do it. Like Darrell doesn't seem annoyed or anything,
like they're just sort of like, well, yeah, I can't
do it.
Speaker 3: I think they had to be on opposite side. But
I'm wondering, like, could Durell have laid on top of
a viv and just like wrapped around the crocodile with
her underneath them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that probably would have made his legs not long enough.
You know, you had another human in the middle.
Speaker 1: I did like Tina and Kenny's turn though, because the
way Kenny was holding her feet, there's tons of space,
so every time they'd flip around, Tina's face would just
slam into the cross. She's like, ah, my face, hold
me tighter. Yep.
Speaker 2: Good times. Yeah, and they ultimately win. Uh, nobody else
can do.
Speaker 3: So some of you guys noticed this, but for some reason,
my favorite part was did you see how they would
like get the people onto the bottom of the alligator?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a stretch stretch.
Speaker 4: Then.
Speaker 3: I don't know why that that's entertaining.
Speaker 2: Me so much. It's one of those things. I don't
think they would show that in today's version of the challenge,
Like you know, they're doing goofy ship like that to
set these people up. It's just now it's hidden away. Yeah,
and we get to see production assistants can lift these
people up on a weird little stretcher.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Kenny and Tina they win, and they ultimately
decide to throw in Derek and Deem versus Darrell and
a viv. That's the decision they make, all right, So
two questions. Number one, is this a smart decision? And
number two, is Deem at all justified in her fucking
insane behavior?
Speaker 4: Oh damn, is never justified.
Speaker 5: She freaks out like this, not just in this season,
but in many other seasons later on. Anytime she gets
thrown in, she acts like the fucking world is ending.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't believe you did this. I've been your friend.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just it's the same argument over and
over and over every single fucking time.
Speaker 4: It's like, DM, you are playing a game where this
is part of it.
Speaker 2: And Dean was gonna throw in Kenny and Tina right, like, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 3: And I think that's it is.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: She kept trying to be like, We've had many chances
to throw you in and we haven't done it. And
they're like, well, you're gonna do it this time. She's like,
but in the past, we haven't done it.
Speaker 2: And then one time she said, you don't know that.
It's like, well, I guess we don't because it didn't happen,
but like it was almost definitely, but like we do, yeah,
we knew it, and like they made the right call.
I really do think that, and Diam is being an
insane person here.
Speaker 1: I just want to point out my utter disappointment because
the description of this episode is that Dim and Tina
come to blows over the challenge, and I was like,
oh disappointment, there's gonna be a fucking fight, and it's
literally nothing verbal blow. She flips her off, which has
blurred out Dia does and then I just I can't
with her sunglasses on, and she just walks away. I'm like,
this is bullshit. This is not what I was promised.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, this will you're not a long time
you wouldn't you weren't wanting this show as it was
as it was airing live but for whatever reason, I
don't know why this is. I have this memory of
Tina saying this to Dem of like, oh, you've got
a lot of.
Speaker 1: Nerve, bitch.
Speaker 2: She just says it in such a weird, iconic way
that I fucking remember it every time. And this is
when she says.
Speaker 4: The only thing.
Speaker 5: The only thing about this entire fight that I had
I took a little bit of issue with was when
Tina turns around and tells Dim to get her anorexic
ass out of her face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm in yeah, but Tina doesn't know you
shouldn't say.
Speaker 5: That to someone. I'm just like, in general, say that
to someone, but it definitely hit different for Dim because
Tina doesn't understand what she's saying.
Speaker 4: And that's why when you uh.
Speaker 5: In between the episodes, listeners won't know this, but in
between the episodes we were talking about apparently this season
had a reunion, but they didn't have the reunion on Paramount,
So I really do wonder if that was addressed in
the reunion, if Tina kind of came in and was like, so,
I was an asshole.
Speaker 4: Should never have said that. I didn't know that's what
you were going through.
Speaker 3: So I was wondering, like, because that's my first st too.
I was like, well, Tina doesn't know any better. But
later in the episode we see them all like the
cast talk about like, oh, you know, she could use
this money more than any of us for her treatments.
I was like, did Tina know?
Speaker 2: I had the same thought Zach of like how how
much is this really a secret in the house. We've
really only seen her divulged to Derek. But just like
the Evan with her, I think got to be there's
got to be something else happening. It's hard to know,
but it did seem very heartless. I don't think Tina
would have said that if she knew them was going
through chemo, but maybe she would have. I don't know Tina,
but that seems.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean maybe it's a maybe it's a they
they found out after.
Speaker 4: I don't know him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe once DM and Derek got eliminated, they told
you know the others and they've brought.
Speaker 2: Spoiler we will never know. But yes, those are the
two iconic lines, Oh you got a lot of nerve, bitch,
and yeah, I get your interaxic ass out of my face.
Despite all the yelling and all that shit. They can't
change anything, So we're onto the exile pimas the bitch
bitch yep. Durell says he's never been in an elimination ever,
not on the Gauntlet, not on the Infero. Love how
he says Infero, it's awesome.
Speaker 4: Where no, is that really how? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't think during this episode, but when he was
on the Inferno, it was like one of the things
they kept poking at fun of him because he couldn't
say it right, Sanfuerno everything.
Speaker 1: He also calls them whopper sandwiches, which is always.
Speaker 2: Good thrill, just the best guy.
Speaker 1: I love that guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, so they're starting exile here for some reason that
I can't fucking understand. Still, Derek decides they should just
drop their bags because they're losing to Darrell and Aviv.
So that he's just like, I fuck it, like to
drop the bags and let's hope that we have a
puzzle later that's gonna let us drop our bags and
then this is not going to impact the game at all.
Speaker 4: What I totally miss that.
Speaker 1: Derek's just like, well, if we get to the first
checkpoint and it says we can drop our bags. And
then after this is moving very fastly ahead, after they
get it and they said they can drop one bag,
he's like, well, maybe the next checkpoint drop the other bag,
so then we'll be fine. Yeah. So I think his
thought is, well, we don't have to take him across
the finish line, and as long as you know we
can do that, then we'll be fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He literally I totally miss that, and.
Speaker 2: He literally says, I'm I'm dropping our bags and I'm
hoping for miracle at the finish line. So just to
just super short sighted, there's no way this is ever
gonna work. But I do wonder if he just saw
them get so far ahead, he's just like, well fuck it,
like we're gonna lose either way, Like, let's just give
it a shot. Who knows he's thinking. It seemed really
stupid to me.
Speaker 1: Because he's just like, damn, drop them, and she's just
like what okay, it just drops the bags. They take
off run of yep.
Speaker 2: So they never had their bags, like you know, as
they're as they're fighting Durrell and Aviv, they just aren't
getting their bags.
Speaker 4: Ever.
Speaker 1: Spoiler Altle they get smoked anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they get totally smoked Durrell and Derek. They both
forget the flags. They both have to run back. Uh,
this is what you were talking about, Wolfe. They both
needed their partners. We haven't seen this before.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen it before, but I've noticed after a
certain amount that when they do forget their flag, both
people go back to get them. Okay, So I don't
know if the producers told them, and it wasn't something
that was.
Speaker 4: In the last exile.
Speaker 5: Both and Kenny went back for the flag, so maybe
they did tell him and this was just the first
time they let us know.
Speaker 1: Yep. Could be.
Speaker 2: But they're both running back because there has.
Speaker 1: Been episodes where only one person's gone back to get
it and then come back. Yes, there was no problems
with it, so yeah, yeah, there's there was a correction somewhere,
we just don't know where. Yep.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they both get back to get their flags,
realize they can't get them, yet have to both go
back and get their partners, and then fucking go back
and get the price to get the flags again. And
while they're doing that, a eve and who is it,
dimam are trying to solve that jumping pegs puzzle which
I could never fucking do it a billion years.
Speaker 1: Solf, even at the Cracker Barrel, couldn't get it right.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm pretty good at puzzles. I'm pretty
good at things like this that is so hard. I
can't do that one.
Speaker 3: I've done it a couple of times at Cracker Barrel,
but it's not something like I could repeat like. It's
been just pure luck of like you know.
Speaker 1: You don't there's no strategy to which.
Speaker 3: It's just like I tried twenty different things, intervention like
oh I actually did this time. I'm like, I have
no memory of how I did it.
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, luck, twenty is a good number. Like
I think that's probably true of most people could get
it in twenty. They have three attempts and they can't
do it. They neither of them do it. And the
last note I have here says that Casey says that
her sucking a left Tina no choice. Oh yeah, sorry,
I guess uh, Durell and Avive win. Yeah, and we're
back in the house and Casey says that her sucking
left Tina no choice but to save them. So Casey's
gonna take some credit for keeping them safe to the
very end and like she's got a point. Yeah, it's
a fair point, and again a reason I love Casey.
She's self aware and fun and good time Casey.
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know, like from a perspective, and
maybe it's my bias because I know all these characters
for all these players already. But people are like, yeah,
their team sucks, and I'm like, yeah, they're won lot
won like daily challenges, but they fucking kill it an elimination. Yeah,
so it's just like, why would you keep I mean,
I guess it's just well, we'll just use them to
eliminate people until they get eliminated. But it's just saying
that they're a terrible team. I don't think holds as
much weight since I mean, when it matters, they are
able to pull on out.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 2: Yep, I do too.
Speaker 1: What's it? That's the episode everybody had a challenge by
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Jesus Christ's.
Speaker 3: Gonna everything I know I learned from Carlin.
Speaker 2: Oh oh Carlin, we got around it.
Speaker 1: Sorry, dude. Uh we record these. You get all those at.
Speaker 2: Once, that's right, and we say your name. So thank
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Speaker 1: And oh thanks everybody. Thanks guys, he's acting. We have
a credit, soceon we do.
Speaker 3: We have a Durrell just wandering around in a big
hillbilly hat with like these jacked up hillbilly teeth, talking
like he's from the Deep South.
Speaker 2: He's his teeth art like we've seen the teeth in
a couple of seasons. I think the durell y teeth.
Speaker 3: To go to yes, like.
Speaker 1: People pull he pulls them out and people at the
house are just.
Speaker 2: Like, oh he brought the teeth wax teeth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, weird? All right? Well, what's it? We are one
episode left into the finale. Hard to believe, guys, Yeah,
it feels like this has been swimming by ex Definitely
not three long days of recording and watch that we've
put into this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my goodness, No, not at all.
Speaker 3: I can't wait till next weekend when we start fresh meto.
Speaker 1: No more. We got forty one to deal with. I'm ready,
uh all right for this episode of Challenge has been.
Speaker 4: Brian Bigle, Sweaty, Harlan san Diego.
Speaker 1: Zaki bananas, and as uh somebody said, oh no, Charlie,
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