WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:10.119 Okay, hey everybody, welcome to Game mess Mornings with Me 2 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:12.960 Jeff Grubb, your host from giant bomb dot com. 3 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:13.919 Thank you for tuning in. 4 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:16.920 In this episode, we're gonna be talking about Nintendo dropping 5 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:20.800 an amazing strategy RPG on the switch to an Xbox 6 00:00:20.839 --> 00:00:23.719 holding back a secret game for its upcoming showcase. 7 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:25.839 It's gonna be a good one because we have. 8 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:28.600 Rachel Kazer on the showing. 9 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:31.480 I Happy New Year, Jeff. I'm so happy to see 10 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:33.560 you again. And for the record, everyone, the only reason 11 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:34.759 I'm here is fire emblem. 12 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:37.399 That's right. Well, you messaged me last night. 13 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:39.280 I think we probably talked about it last time you 14 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:41.320 were on the show, and then yes, yeah. 15 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:43.200 And then I messaged you at like ten o'clock last 16 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:44.960 night when I saw the news and it was it 17 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:48.039 was literally just like a like a string. 18 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:51.240 Of emojis, yes, exactly, like just an exclamation points. 19 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:53.399 Mostly. I'm excited too. 20 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:55.719 I've started Path Radiance a couple times, really enjoyed it, 21 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:57.240 and then of course it was like, oh, I got 22 00:00:57.280 --> 00:00:59.320 distracted by some new game I got to play for work. 23 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:01.799 I might use this as the excuse to fully go 24 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:05.120 back to it. I'm assuming you've played through Path of 25 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:06.280 Radiance before. 26 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:09.359 Or actually I actually have not. It's a fire Amarm 27 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:11.159 game I've never played. It's it's one of the few 28 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.280 firemom games I've never played because I didn't own a 29 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:16.079 game cube, but I mean I owned a you So 30 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:17.840 I played Radiant Dawn, which is the. 31 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:20.040 Secret very similar, yes to follow up. 32 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:22.680 Yeah, but I've never actually played Path of Radiance itself, 33 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:26.280 So I'm excited. It's not it's not the remake I 34 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:28.920 was hoping for, but I'm hoping all of this interest 35 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:31.640 in Fire Emblem will mean that the next Fire Emblem 36 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:36.439 game we get after Fortune's Weave might be a genealogy 37 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:37.519 of the Holy War remake. 38 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:40.519 Yeah, it feels like that's still happening at some point. 39 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:43.400 But yeah, there's a lot of Fireblom happening happening these days. 40 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:45.719 That's uh, that's exciting. We will talk about all the 41 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:47.519 details there here in a second. 42 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:48.480 Uh. 43 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:50.599 Other than that, how was how was your New Year? 44 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:53.519 How were how are your holidays? How how's things down 45 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:54.319 in Texas? 46 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:57.560 It? I mean it's it's very warm even by Texas 47 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:00.680 standards for winter. Like I think the Old Snap is 48 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:03.439 finally coming next week, But it was like seven degrees 49 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:04.359 on Christmas. 50 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:08.759 Okay, yeah, it was kind of up until Christmas, and 51 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:10.879 then as Christmas got here, it's like, okay, we're gonna 52 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:13.599 go melt all the snow, and then it's it came back, 53 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:16.319 and now we're back to everything's melted, which is kind 54 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:18.599 of been the standard for the last little bit. But uh, boy, 55 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:21.240 I liked having the snow. Uh you do anything fun 56 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:22.159 for New Year's or anything? 57 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:25.159 Not? Not really, We're just kind of staying home eating 58 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:29.439 Chinese food because the Chinese, the Chinese food places are 59 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:32.800 always open. No, never, they never have, never let me down. 60 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:34.840 But yeah, we were just kind of hanging out and 61 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:38.400 working on our New Year's resolutions. I want to read 62 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:42.319 more books. My first book is was it The Red 63 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:44.840 House Mystery? Which is I did not Did you know 64 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:48.280 that the author of Winnie the Pooh wrote a mystery novel? 65 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:50.599 No, but that sounds amazing. 66 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:53.840 Yeah, it's exactly what. Yeah, it's exactly what. It sounds like. 67 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:57.000 It's a uh yeah, I haven't finished it, so no 68 00:02:57.039 --> 00:02:59.400 one in the chat spoil it for me. But yeah, 69 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:02.400 I'm reading Aa Milne's only mystery novel. 70 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:05.560 Okay, well that's that sounds like a good time. I 71 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:09.840 also am trying to read more and just exercise more regularly. 72 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:11.560 You know, I get it. 73 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:13.840 Most people fall off their news resolutions, So that doesn't 74 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:14.639 mean you shouldn't try. 75 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:16.560 I like to try, and then we'll see, We'll see 76 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:17.039 what sticks. 77 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:19.719 It's like it's a clean slate. It's it's nice to 78 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:22.520 start again, even if it doesn't necessarily even if not 79 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:25.520 everything sticks, it's so nice to kind of like check 80 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:28.000 in with yourself and you know, say, like, what do 81 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:30.680 I actually want to accomplish in the next few months. 82 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:33.599 Yeah, give yourself the opportunity to succeed in all that. 83 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:36.960 All right, you know what, it's Friday. Let's get on 84 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:40.319 with the show. Before we do that, we should explain ourselves. 85 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:45.159 We're Giant Bomb Video Game Internet deficits independent games media 86 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:48.680 out here on our own, except we have you in 87 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:51.159 our corner at our backs. You went to giant bomb 88 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:53.800 dot com, slash join, became a premium member. 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Ahead of the release of Firemblum 126 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:38.279 Fortunes Weave later this year, the new Firemblum game for 127 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:42.839 Nintendo Switch, Nintendo has added fire Emblem Path of Radiance 128 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:46.839 to the Switch tos library of GameCube Classics. Regarded as 129 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:49.199 one of the best entries in the entire franchise, Path 130 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:52.079 of Radiance will be available for all Nintendo Switch Online 131 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:56.120 plus Expansion Pack subscribers. First released in two thousand and five, 132 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:58.399 so twenty one years ago, Oh my God, Path of 133 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:02.240 Radiance earned critical for its dark storyline, mature themes, and 134 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:03.360 for being the first three. 135 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:04.199 D FIREARMBLM game. 136 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:07.519 Uh Set on the fictional continent of Tellius, the game 137 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:10.439 follows the mercenary Ike and his companions as they set 138 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.360 out to rescue a Princess and save King the Kingdom 139 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:18.759 of Crimea from the invading nation of d n Yeah. 140 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:19.480 So god. 141 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:23.639 I remember when this happened originally Rachel where it was like, oh, 142 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:28.560 the game with the guys from Smash Brothers. Hey yeah, Ike, 143 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:29.759 Ike Yeah. 144 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.639 Yeah, we know Ike, right, Ike sort of. 145 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:35.920 I've always wanted to play these games, and then you know, 146 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:38.759 I didn't at the time, but it was like an 147 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:41.639 exciting moment, Oh, we're finally getting that fire EARMBLM series. 148 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:44.839 I eventually would fall in love with the series after 149 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:47.319 Awakening happened on the three DS. I think that was 150 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:50.360 a lot of people in the West like introduction to 151 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:54.079 the series, the real introduction. But I always was just like, oh, yeah, 152 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:56.759 this game looked cool. It felt very different than a 153 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:58.519 lot of other stuff that was happening on the game cube, 154 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:02.399 especially from Nintendo, and yes beloved it is a game 155 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:04.279 that people really liked right away. 156 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:06.680 I'm excited about this. 157 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:08.839 This is the eighth game added to the GameCube library 158 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:10.639 on the Nintendo Switch too. That's growing a little bit 159 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:12.839 faster than I even thought that would, and this is 160 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:14.920 an excellent entry. At this point, it's like, oh, man, 161 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:18.360 that's now a really well rounded lineup of games that 162 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:20.959 people can get if they become an Expansory Pack subscriber. 163 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:24.040 Uh you, so the plan is to play it on 164 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:24.519 the switch to. 165 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:27.399 Oh, yeah, it's already. It's I'm already downloading it on 166 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:29.079 the switch to. I mean I don't know. Yeah, my 167 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:31.240 switch to is at my in my other room, so 168 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:34.360 I can't I can't physically show you. But yeah, it's 169 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:37.600 it's at a secret location where the game is currently 170 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:40.800 being downloaded where I'm you know, getting it directly from Nintendo. 171 00:07:41.160 --> 00:07:44.079 But yes, so it's downloaded up. That's probably gonna be 172 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:46.800 my whole weekend is playing Path of Radiance on my 173 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:47.279 switch to. 174 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:50.079 I think what we should do now is get you 175 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:52.120 back on here in like a like the next like 176 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:54.040 two weeks from now, after you've played some more of it, 177 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:55.519 and kind of get your thoughts. So i'd love to 178 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:59.759 like have a yes, get the caser review of Path 179 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:00.360 of Radiance. 180 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:03.000 I would love to have that you said you did play. 181 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:04.759 What was the name of the we follow up? I 182 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:08.600 can't remember. Radiant Down, Radian Down, Radiant Dawn, which I 183 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:09.040 did like. 184 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:13.120 But you know, it's that's always been like a just 185 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:15.639 a blank's just a you know, a big empty spot 186 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.199 on my shelf, as it were my Fire Emblem shelves. 187 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:21.439 I've never played Path of Radiance, and you know, which 188 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:22.959 is weird because now that I think about it, I've 189 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:26.879 played so many other Fire Emblem games that aren't necessarily 190 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:29.839 ported properly, but I've found other. 191 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:31.279 Ways of interesting. 192 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:34.360 Yeah, of course of playing them, you know, like totally 193 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:35.759 totally legal and above. 194 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:37.600 Gut work, do what you gotta do, of course. 195 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:39.360 Yeah, but I've never but I never got around to 196 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:41.639 playing Path of Radiance, so part of me was kind 197 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:45.080 of hoping that I would eventually be able to play 198 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:47.720 it on the switch or I think I actually thought 199 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:49.639 I could play it on my WIU at one point 200 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:51.799 when after I got my Wii. Yes, I do on 201 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:52.320 a WU. 202 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:55.320 Yeah, yeah, the WE you had we backward compatibility, so 203 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:56.440 you probably played it on there. 204 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:59.159 Yeah, well that's why I played Radiant Dawn, but Path 205 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:00.679 of Radiance came out of the GameCube. 206 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:04.480 Oh you're staying Path of Radiance still that Yeah, I wonder, Yeah, 207 00:09:04.480 --> 00:09:05.080 I don't. I don't know. 208 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:08.200 I can't remember, but it either way, like the question 209 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:11.200 for Radiant Dawn, since you if you can remember when 210 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:14.159 you did play it. The quality of life features of 211 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:16.240 like FIREMM got added over time because like you know, 212 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:18.559 if you go back to the super Famicom versions, it 213 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:20.399 doesn't have that thing where it's like if I hit 214 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:23.480 a button, it's gonna show me every possible space where 215 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:24.879 like the enemy could attack me. 216 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:27.000 And as someone who's like, look. 217 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:29.759 I've learned the rules of chess, I've played chess like 218 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:32.879 I'm like, I'm decent at it, like for someone that 219 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:36.480 is completely an amateur. But I always struggle with like 220 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:40.039 seeing the whole board and seeing like every possible like 221 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:43.000 threat position. I suppose that's a problem most people have. 222 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:45.039 That's the whole thing that makes just difficult. But I 223 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:47.039 do struggle with that, and that was always great in 224 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:49.679 Fire and just like at least with starting with Awakening, 225 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:51.080 I think you would hit like one of the shoulder 226 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:52.799 buttons and it would just be like, here's a big 227 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:55.720 red blob of the danger area. Do you remember if 228 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:57.519 like path of or if a Radian dawn, excuse me, 229 00:09:57.559 --> 00:10:00.879 if that had that, and by exten maybe path of 230 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:03.120 Path of Radiance has that. 231 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:07.960 I think it has it. I could be wrong because 232 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:10.960 I have a memory of a map in Radiant Dawn 233 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:14.679 with like the red like like red squares on the map, 234 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:17.080 So I have a memory of that, but I could 235 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:20.360 be it could be just that it's only if you 236 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:23.000 like highlight one enemy, like you go to their tile 237 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:24.799 on the map, and it'll show you all the places 238 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:28.919 they can move to. So maybe not the entire enemy 239 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:32.120 danger zone, but maybe just like for you have to 240 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:34.159 like pick out each individual enemy and be like, okay, 241 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:36.240 they can go here, they can go here, So I 242 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:37.600 better avoid this, this, and this. 243 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:41.039 Yeah, probably individual at least done on an individual enemy levels, 244 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:44.200 yea YadA, saying that sounds right, I think when I 245 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:46.919 I do remember when I did spend several hours playing 246 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:49.440 Path of Radiance again, never beat it, but I remember 247 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:51.320 being like, oh no, I can work with this and 248 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:53.840 it still feels relatively modern, even if it doesn't have 249 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:55.759 every single quality of life. 250 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:57.879 Feature that the series would add over time. 251 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:03.039 My understanding overall is this is a relatively friendly game. 252 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:03.440 To go back to. 253 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:05.919 It's it's like people do someone else in chat a 254 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:07.480 little bit, a little bit of it was calling it 255 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:10.759 out as a great first fire emblem game. So yeah, 256 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:12.559 I bet it's gonna hold up just fine. 257 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:14.519 Looking forward to spending some more time with it. 258 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:17.159 I'm so excited. I can't wait to I can't. I 259 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:19.320 will play as much of it as I can in 260 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:21.240 the next two weeks, just so that I can report 261 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:23.799 back to you about like YEP turns out Path of Radiance, 262 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:26.200 it still holds up. It's still fun to play YEP. 263 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:29.039 I And as someone who's like originally fell in love 264 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:34.440 with intelligence systems of strategy games, with Advance Wars, I've 265 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:37.000 come to accept and be sort of like not just accept, 266 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:38.519 but like, no, this is great. 267 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:41.080 That Firearm one became like the standout one. 268 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:43.320 They had their their wife Fus and Awakening, and of 269 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:44.559 course that put it over the top. 270 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:47.480 But there is uh, that's a that's a great series. 271 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:49.919 It's a there's a lot to love there, and it 272 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:51.639 has a lot of the same qualities as in an 273 00:11:51.639 --> 00:11:54.440 Advanced War, but with like characters you can get related to. 274 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.360 And I don't judge the waifus because like, to me, 275 00:11:57.519 --> 00:11:59.600 that is what saves the fire and Blum series, because 276 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:02.720 I remember, if Awakening had not done well sales wise, 277 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:04.960 like they would have just packed the whole franchise in 278 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:08.440 and just th it on the shelf forever. So I mean, 279 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:10.960 if that's what save fire emblem, then you know, please 280 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:13.759 more wifus I need more wi fus wi. 281 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:15.720 Foos are the key to success in this business. It 282 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:19.879 turns out, all right, let's keep going here. The Xbox 283 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:23.120 Developer Direct will feature a secret fourth game. 284 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:25.240 This is from Jordan Midler at VGC. 285 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:29.480 The upcoming Xbox Developer Direct will feature a currently unannounced 286 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:32.559 fourth game. The digital event will stream on Thursday, January 287 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:35.919 twenty second at ten am Pacific time one pm Eastern 288 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:39.000 and include new looks at forts, A, Horizon six, Fable, 289 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.360 and the new game from Pokemon developers Game Freak Beasts 290 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:45.360 of Reincarnation. Now we talked about all of those yesterday 291 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:48.440 on the show. Excited to see more from all three 292 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:51.080 of thems, Yeah, I mean, I think that Game Freak 293 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:55.840 one especially is very interesting. I'm kind of interested to 294 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:58.159 see it from the side of, oh, let's see what 295 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:01.240 the studio can do when they may have a real budget, 296 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:03.159 but also it just looks like a good game, so 297 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:04.799 I want to see that. And then of course Forts 298 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:07.720 are Horizon six taking place in Japan, and that Fable 299 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.320 game being sort of almost a mythological beast at this 300 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:13.960 point where it's been around or been announced for so long, 301 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:16.639 it's like, is this thing actually going to be real? Well, 302 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:18.840 in that blog post yesterday, they're like, yeah, we're showing 303 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:21.799 off new gameplay. Okay, let's see it. Let's see what 304 00:13:21.799 --> 00:13:26.480 you actually have over there, Playground Games. But since then, Shinobi, 305 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:29.080 who is like kind of a you know, industry guy, 306 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:32.000 industry insider to some extent, posted on one of the 307 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:34.759 forums that a secret fourth game will be part of 308 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:38.200 this thing, which is not surprising something that Microsoft has 309 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:41.720 done with their developer directs before in the past, where 310 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:43.480 it's like, oh, we're going to talk about in depth 311 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:45.519 with some of these games, and it's four games, and 312 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:47.320 then there's a secret fifth game that they don't say 313 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:49.159 they're going to do, and then it pops off and 314 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:51.720 sometimes it's like a shadow drop or something like that. 315 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:56.279 Now VGC says they can corroborate this and understands that 316 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:59.080 the fourth game is a smaller scale original game from 317 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:03.799 one of the Box Game Studios first party developers. I'll 318 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:06.360 say that, like you know, when I I just did 319 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:10.759 a cursory ask about this without getting any definitive answer, 320 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:12.720 but people are like, oh, to me, it sounds like 321 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:14.759 that's probably gonna be Gears of War E Day. Now, 322 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:19.080 clearly that's not a smaller game. Yeah, very very different, 323 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:23.039 So we'll see. I think I trust VGC here on this. 324 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:25.720 And it also sounds like the kind of thing that, yeah, 325 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:30.279 that fits with what Microsoft has done before. But also 326 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:32.799 it's like, didn't they do that with isn't that exactly 327 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:38.600 what happened with what was the Rhythm Action Adventure Hi 328 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:41.000 Fi Rush? Isn't that exactly what happened there? And they 329 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:44.600 sort of they shadow dropped it and it kind of 330 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:47.519 it kind of seemed like it popped off, but eventually 331 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:50.279 they got rid of the studio or whatever. So it's 332 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:52.840 is are they going to repeat history with that or 333 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:55.279 what you're expect the right? 334 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:55.600 Yeah? 335 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:59.879 I know, yeah, I mean I'm trying to think of 336 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:03.559 who will like a smaller scale title. I mean, I 337 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:06.799 haven't heard anything that sounds like it fits that description. 338 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:10.399 So I'm puzzling because I also I did look into it, 339 00:15:10.440 --> 00:15:13.399 and I do remember seeing that it might be like 340 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:17.399 indie indie scale, like. 341 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:19.919 The original game small scale. 342 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:23.039 Those those are the big descriptors here, So it's not 343 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:24.000 original game. 344 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:27.759 Imply it's not part of an existing series, or right, is. 345 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:28.679 That what we should say? 346 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:33.080 I I think so, Rachel, Okay, but I don't necessarily 347 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:35.120 know if that's what it means, because you know, it 348 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:39.080 could be an original sequel, right, but probably not they 349 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:40.799 would say that. I think they would say that if 350 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:41.759 that's what was happening here. 351 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:43.440 Yeah, I think they'd say, like, you know, it's a 352 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:48.320 sequel to you know, popular indie game from early two thousands, 353 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:48.840 something like. 354 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:51.799 That, right, yes, or right, like a Pentiment follow up, 355 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:53.240 which I doubt this is. 356 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:56.600 I love a Pentiment follow up. 357 00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:57.799 Yeah, I know me too. 358 00:15:57.960 --> 00:15:59.759 I didn't have that in my head until you said it. 359 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:00.320 But now. 360 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:04.879 Listen, I love love love Pentiment. I'm never gonna believe 361 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:06.320 we're going to get another one of those. It's this 362 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:09.120 perfect little thing and I'll be fine with that. 363 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:12.639 Yeah, double finelex, they'll xboxify it. 364 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:17.200 Yes, Double Find just released a game, so it's it's 365 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:21.600 probably not. It does sound like Obsidian could have something, 366 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:24.039 but they're very busy all the time with like five 367 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:29.639 different projects, and they released three games last year, Avowed 368 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:34.600 the Outer Worlds Too and Grounded To, So it's like, God, 369 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:37.360 are they really going to have yet another game? Even 370 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:39.799 ready to talk about it. At this point, that seems unlikely, 371 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:42.240 but they have a ton of studios that I'm sure 372 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:45.559 we're forgetting about that. It could be doing the obsidian 373 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:47.200 thing of like, hey, we had a small team make 374 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:48.440 something and we're going to finally. 375 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:48.679 Put that out. 376 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:51.759 Yeah, I mean, I think hoping that something is going 377 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:53.799 to shadow drop like it did with High Fi Rush, 378 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:57.000 I think that might be hoping for a little too much, 379 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:00.440 because I think I don't think they're to be able 380 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:01.879 to do what they did with High Fi Rush. I 381 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:04.720 don't think that. I mean same with Pentiment. I don't 382 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:06.839 think that lightning is going to strike twice, and I 383 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:09.200 don't think Xbox is Gonn is going to try to 384 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:12.000 force something out just to try to replicate that success. 385 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:15.920 I think what they're gonna do is probably release a 386 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:19.240 trailer for something and then something that has at least 387 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:22.759 a familiar element. I'm guessing like maybe we'll recognize the 388 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:25.319 studio and say like, oh, we love their work, can't 389 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:26.599 wait to see what they do with this. But I 390 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:28.119 don't think it's going to be a full game. 391 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:29.799 But yeah, I'm happy. 392 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:31.839 I'm happy to eat my words if it turns out 393 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:32.799 that we do get a game. 394 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:35.319 Yep, I uh be curious to see it. 395 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:37.079 I think, you know, the thing sticking out to me 396 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:39.599 it's like, oh, one of the first party developers. 397 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:41.960 We have seen Xbox. 398 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:44.200 Do something along these lines before and kind of let 399 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:48.440 these studios try to make a smaller thing alongside the 400 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:51.039 big stuff that they make. Obsidian has been the best 401 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:53.079 at that, or like maybe the poster child for that. 402 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:55.759 And then I was also like getting the sense it's like, 403 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:59.920 is that the strategy also going forward, because I remember 404 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:02.319 at Booty in the last couple of years, especially as 405 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:05.559 they are having this shift from we're focused on selling 406 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:09.640 xboxes too, We're focused on selling our games everywhere. One 407 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:12.200 of the things I remember Matt Booty saying, who is 408 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:14.559 one of the people in charge of Xbox and he 409 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:16.279 I don't think he's necessarily in charge of Xbox Game 410 00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:19.640 Studios anymore. I think that's Sarah Bond now, but he's 411 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:22.359 still he's up there on the executive leadership team. He 412 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:26.599 was saying that they want to focus more on the 413 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:29.680 big home run hits, the bigger games and fewer games 414 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:31.799 and having the like the you know, putting all their 415 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:33.799 eggs into some of these more. 416 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:36.680 Some of these bigger baskets that have the biggest return. 417 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:39.759 Yeah, it's like, okay, I want to see what this 418 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:43.799 is mostly to get a sense of Okay, are things 419 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:46.160 like this still possible at Xbox where it's like they 420 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:48.559 can have these smaller things or is this a remnant 421 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:51.759 from the previous sort of strategy and this is the 422 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:53.880 last one out the door before they close the door 423 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:54.160 on that. 424 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:56.480 Yeah, I'm curious to see it from that angle. 425 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:58.839 Yeah, it depends on when they're going to release it. 426 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:00.839 If it's something that's going to release this year, then yeah, 427 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:04.559 I think it would definitely be Probably it pre dates 428 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:06.680 it was grandfathered in, and then it could be a 429 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:09.039 small indie game that was grandfathered in on the original 430 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:12.160 strategy that they that they want to put out because 431 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:14.400 they've invested a lot of time and money in it already. 432 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:18.000 Yep, and Matt Booty is in charge of everything Studio 433 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:19.960 so Xbox Activision. 434 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:23.279 But does the okay makes sense? Uh? 435 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:26.480 All right, Well we'll see that's uh again, that's happening 436 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:30.200 January twenty second, So we're talking to yep two weeks 437 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:30.480 from now. 438 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:33.079 We well, we'll watch it here see what they have. 439 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:37.359 Yeah, I don't know, looking forward to see what those 440 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:39.079 other games are or what they have, and they're in 441 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:40.960 store for us as well. 442 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:42.279 Watch it with the rest of you. I can yell 443 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:43.559 at at Mike a little bit. 444 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:44.519 There you go. 445 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:48.319 That would be perfect months. 446 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:51.279 It's important to get that in regularly. I know I 447 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:52.240 need it as well. 448 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:55.519 He was he missed uh Decides last night because he 449 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:58.519 was at Games Done Quick and it's like he was 450 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:00.480 kind of in the background of one of the shots, 451 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.240 and then when the Super Metroid Run happened, he was 452 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:06.400 like right there. Basically he wasn't on like the couch, 453 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:08.440 but he might as well have been, because he was 454 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:11.440 just like taking hour And that sounds about right. Yeah, 455 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:16.079 I was. I was very excited. Okay, that was not me. 456 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:20.519 I did not do that me. Xbox exclusive RPG Avowed 457 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:22.599 is coming to PS five with new features. 458 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:24.920 This is from James O'Connor at GameSpot. 459 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:29.960 Avowed. Obsidian's twenty twenty five RPG, originally released on Xbox Series, 460 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:33.519 x NS and PC, is coming to PlayStation five. The 461 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:36.039 new version of a Vout, announced during the New Game 462 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:39.599 Plus showcase which happened yesterday, will be available on Sony's 463 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:43.640 system on February seventeenth, twenty twenty six, just a day 464 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:46.599 short of the one year anniversary of the game's original release. 465 00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:50.759 Microsoft remains the game's publisher, having purchased Obsidian in twenty eighteen. 466 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:53.519 The game is first person action RPG set in the 467 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:57.000 world of Pillars of Eternity some other Obsidian games, it 468 00:20:57.079 --> 00:20:59.839 tasks players with investigating a mysterious plague, fighting their way 469 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:02.640 through or a sprawling world with a mix of weapons 470 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:06.480 and magic. Alongside the PS five version, Obsidian will also 471 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:09.680 release an anniversary update for the game for all systems. 472 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:12.400 This update will add a new game Plus mode. 473 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:14.920 Which lets you carry over all your equippable gear to 474 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:17.400 a new character we're set to level one and fight 475 00:21:17.480 --> 00:21:20.799 modified enemies. It also adds a photo mode, three new 476 00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:24.279 playable races, the ability to change your appearance from the overworld, 477 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:26.839 and a new weapon type. The PS five version will 478 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.000 also contain all the post release content and updates that 479 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:34.839 the game has received thus far. I think the developers 480 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:37.799 were discussing the update and saying, it's like, it's a 481 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:39.640 more well rounded game now. 482 00:21:39.640 --> 00:21:40.960 Is how they're positioning it. 483 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:42.759 It's like, oh, yeah, that's a game that was already 484 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:44.640 really solid, and of course this is. 485 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:46.720 One of the benefits. Yeah, I did two. 486 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:49.279 This is one of the benefits of like this strategy 487 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:52.279 for a company like Microsoft, where it's like, release it 488 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:56.440 on Xbox first, focus on that launch, and then sometime 489 00:21:56.480 --> 00:21:59.240 between three months to a year later, get it ready 490 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:01.759 for PlayStation five, where it will have a bigger audience, 491 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:06.240 and we'll be you know, kind of necessarily the best 492 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:09.079 version of the game possible with all these updates, all 493 00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:12.599 these improvements, and you could specifically build a new update 494 00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:15.200 to make the game feel special to people who are 495 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:17.839 still playing it on other consoles while making it like, oh, 496 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:20.000 here's why it's worth getting into it now on your 497 00:22:20.039 --> 00:22:21.039 PlayStation five. 498 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:22.680 Yeah. 499 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:24.599 I think this is going to do really well because 500 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:27.279 another thing that's happening with Obsidian Games, Rachel, is it 501 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:29.920 seems like these games are coming out, do they do 502 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:31.960 feel like they get lost in the mix a little bit, 503 00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:33.839 and then a few months later everyone kind of goes 504 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:36.279 like that game ruled. I think that's gonna happen with 505 00:22:36.279 --> 00:22:39.359 Outer Worlds too, like a big time. Like people are 506 00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:41.519 going to come around to Outer Worlds two in the 507 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:44.480 next like six months or so and be like, oh, 508 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:46.759 actually this game is awesome. I don't know why more 509 00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:49.599 people weren't talking about it. It's sort of already happening 510 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:51.640 with a vowed and now this will give them an 511 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:53.599 opportunity to sort of capitalize on that. 512 00:22:53.720 --> 00:22:53.880 Right. 513 00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:59.240 Yeah, I think when I remember thinking, especially when you 514 00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:02.240 put it out that city and released three games last year, 515 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:05.240 I remember thinking, did we really just force did did 516 00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:07.599 City and force all of their projects out the door once? 517 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:10.000 I hate to keep bringing this up, but do they 518 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:13.200 force it all out because GTA six is about to happen? 519 00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:15.559 It doesn't. It doesn't seem like that's not a factor. Yeah, 520 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:17.279 it's definitely just think it's part of it. 521 00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:19.640 Yes, but yeah, and so this seems like, yeah, it's 522 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:21.000 a good way for the game to get a little 523 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:23.640 bit more. I think it definitely deserved more attention than 524 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:25.559 it got, and I think everyone was still kind of 525 00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:28.000 holding It came out at a time when everyone was 526 00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:32.039 kind of holding their breath for Monster Hunter Wilds, or 527 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:34.000 or was playing Monster Hunter wild I. 528 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:36.119 Feel they were just were they were just starting to play. Yes, 529 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:37.000 it was around the same time. 530 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:39.960 Yeah, yes, yeah, I remember that. But then but then 531 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:43.440 Monster Hunter Wilds kind of dropped off. I mean not 532 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:45.599 that it wasn't a decent game, but it feels like 533 00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:49.599 it's not. It doesn't have the staying power of previous 534 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:52.599 Monster Hunter games. So I'm kind of thinking it would 535 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:54.039 be great for a vow to get a little bit 536 00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:55.160 more attention. 537 00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:56.359 Mm hmmm. 538 00:23:56.480 --> 00:23:58.640 And I think it's coming. I think it. The PS 539 00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:00.640 five release is coming out at a time when there 540 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:03.880 it doesn't have a lot of overlap with other major releases. 541 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.319 The only one I can think of that's coming out 542 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:09.240 during that time is Resident Evil Requiem, and that's not 543 00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:13.839 really that's not really a crossover with a fantasy RPG, right. 544 00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:17.160 Yeah, there's space for both of those. Absolutely, It's you know, 545 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:20.039 Reside Eval is going to be massive. There's the kind 546 00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:23.079 of the most hype for this series since Resident before remake, 547 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:26.160 which I guess was very recent a couple of years ago. 548 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:30.519 But no, that's that's still saying something regardless, though, You're right, 549 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:32.440 I think that there's going to be space for this 550 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:33.119 game as well. 551 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:34.799 It can do very well in PlayStation. 552 00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:38.640 And yeah, someone a chat with saying time to stop 553 00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:41.720 buying games at launch, and it's like, yeah, I mean 554 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:45.440 I definitely am okay waiting on a lot of games, right, 555 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:47.960 Like just Stranding two is one that's like I missed 556 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:50.759 the boat on and now it's like, it's probably gonna 557 00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:53.200 do that director's cut thing again. What if I just 558 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:56.359 waited for that version and it's like, and there's a 559 00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:58.519 ton of benefits to doing that, you get the best 560 00:24:58.559 --> 00:24:59.920 version of the game up to that point. 561 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:02.279 Of course. Course. Yeah, I mean, how are you feel 562 00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:03.200 about that these days? 563 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:04.880 I mean, I thought that was kind of a given 564 00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:06.799 that everyone had kind of taken away that lesson is 565 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:10.160 that unless unless something the game really sells itself to you, 566 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:12.519 you don't have to buy it at launch. Yeah, I mean, 567 00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:15.400 I think I think everyone. Maybe I just was brought 568 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:17.880 up in the days of the Steam sale that there 569 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:20.400 was there were so many games, especially we just had 570 00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:23.440 our our end of year's sale. That's where I bought 571 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:27.440 The Berlin Apartment, which I think I talked about last time. 572 00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:31.640 I think, so, yeah, and there's another game that I bought, 573 00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:35.039 Sayan's a Blake Manner yep. So I was basically buying 574 00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:36.599 all the indie games that I hadn't had a chance 575 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:39.000 to play during the year, and it was like, I'm 576 00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:41.799 just gonna snatch these up. All these are twenty five 577 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:42.519 percent off. 578 00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:45.200 So oh yeah, well, the waiting for the sale thing, 579 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.359 that has definitely been something that like is smart money 580 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:49.599 and people should be doing that. 581 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:50.319 Of course. 582 00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:52.319 It's like, yeah, it's like, but if you wait for 583 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:55.319 the sale, you are also getting this much better game 584 00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:57.200 at this point. And it's like, I guess that also 585 00:25:57.240 --> 00:25:59.039 has been something that's pretty common now for years. 586 00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:01.079 But just said, that's all the. 587 00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:04.519 Patches, when all the patches and expansions come out. So yeah, 588 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:07.559 you're getting, like you said, you're getting the complete version 589 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:09.079 of the game. I am curious to know what the 590 00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:12.359 new playable races are going to be in avowed though. Yeah, 591 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:14.960 I'm trying to remember what the It's been so long 592 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:17.079 since I played about I don't remember what the playable 593 00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:20.759 races were, and you know what more they could have? 594 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:24.319 Yeah, right, It's like, I bet there's if I were 595 00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:27.519 to go back and look, I bet there's multiple races 596 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:29.519 in the game that you interact with but you can't 597 00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:30.759 play ass and then they'll. 598 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:32.759 Just kind I don't think they're gonna go for somebody 599 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:38.079 that's do you remember Yachtsley, one of the companions Yachtsley. 600 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:39.559 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think. 601 00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:40.920 They're gonna go for someone her size. 602 00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:41.960 No, probably not. 603 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:45.599 No, they'll probably do something a little bit more standard. 604 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:47.920 But that would be fun if they did, that'd be cool, hilarious. 605 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.880 All right, let's see here. Let's take a break. We're 606 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:54.720 gonna take a break. There's plenty more to talk about, 607 00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:58.640 including the latest on Larian and Generative A. 608 00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.160 I will talk about that after this break. 609 00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:03.240 If you want to skip out on these, go to 610 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:05.480 giant bomb dot com slash join become a premium member. 611 00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:08.759 We have premium versions without ads of the video show 612 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:09.720 and the audio show. 613 00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:12.160 Go grab those. In the meantime, though, we will be 614 00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:13.039 right back. 615 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:17.640 Hi, dog, it's time to start the show. Are you 616 00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:18.200 ready to go? 617 00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.079 Uh? Yeah, dude, I'm ready. 618 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:24.960 No, grum, you look like you are in a den 619 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:26.720 of iniquity right now. 620 00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:30.519 I don't know what that means, and I don't know 621 00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.960 what you want. It's not like I have a home studio, jan, Yes, 622 00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:34.440 you do. 623 00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:37.640 The computers that main Gear built for us have Nvidia 624 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:40.960 g Force RTX chippoos in them, and with the Nvidia 625 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.880 Studio drivers and in video broadcast, you can turn even 626 00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:48.680 your man cave into a professional studio using Broadcasts. You 627 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:53.200 can upgrade your webcams, microphones, and speakers using the power 628 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:56.240 of machine learning to take our shows, voice chats, and 629 00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.160 video conferences to the next level. You can use audio 630 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:00.000 effects like noise. 631 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.240 Oh yeah, I guess have a fan on h Well, 632 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:05.440 it's hot. I'm not gonna turn that off. Let me 633 00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:08.960 just hit this right here? Is that any better? Jan? 634 00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:12.640 Much better? We can clean up your shot with auto 635 00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:16.200 frame and video noise removal and grub. You can even 636 00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:18.960 make it look like you were paying attention using the 637 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:20.559 eye contact tool. 638 00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:22.359 So I could still watch my stories. 639 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.119 Yes, yes you can. Nvidia Broadcasts is a universal plugin 640 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.279 that works with most live streaming, voice chat, and video 641 00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:35.039 conferencing apps. It's supported on any Nvideo, g Force ArtX GPU, 642 00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:39.000 and since I'm using the Nvidia Studio drivers, I'll get stable, 643 00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:42.920 optimized performance in Adobe Photoshop, DA Vinci Resolve in all 644 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.359 the other apps that I need to use to fix 645 00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:46.599 our mistakes in post. 646 00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:47.079 You know what. 647 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.640 Thank you to Bangear and in Vidia for supplying. Are 648 00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:53.839 Invidia Studio PCs in Video broadcast, your AI powered home 649 00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:55.519 studio and video studio. 650 00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:59.160 The software advantage for all creators. Jan, I'm not even 651 00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:02.720 looking at the camera. All right, now, Grub, stop stop 652 00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:04.960 looking at me. I haven't looked at you forever. 653 00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:39.759 All all, all right, it's a game this morning, some 654 00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:40.240 Jeff Grub. 655 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:42.359 It's Rachel Kayser. I'm able to get this thing open now. 656 00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:46.599 It's from a gotcha machine again, shouts at the ABC 657 00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:48.839 for dropping this off to mic and get it to me. 658 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.359 It's the it's the N sixty four controller button thing, 659 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:53.559 a little keychain. 660 00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:54.400 I got the. 661 00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:57.079 Analog sticks, so now I have this. Yeah, and I 662 00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.000 can press all the buttons. It's a little fidget. 663 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:02.720 Yeah, that feels good. I love the sea buttons. They're 664 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:05.599 weird and kind of off putting, and I like it. 665 00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:10.119 All right, let's see here. Thanks again, ABC. I'm I 666 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.160 have a cold. I was trying to pretend I didn't 667 00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:15.119 when we started the show, Rachel, but no, it's okay. 668 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:16.839 It's catching up to me. And I was like, I 669 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.839 just got over like I had the maybe not the flu, 670 00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:23.960 like the the capital f flu over the holidays. 671 00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:26.279 But I had something similar. And uh, now it's like, 672 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:28.440 oh cool, it's a nice little cold to. 673 00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:31.079 Cap things off. On the other side of that, it's 674 00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.680 not terrible. I took some pseudo fed, which is probably 675 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.759 why I'm talking even faster than normal this morning. Uh, 676 00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:39.359 but yeah, it's uh, let's get through this and see 677 00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:40.759 how we can do this this day. 678 00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:41.319 All right. 679 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.200 I feel so when you said before the call started, 680 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.279 but before the show started, you said you were gonna 681 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:48.880 go get some tissues, I was like, well, damn, I 682 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:50.359 didn't think I was gonna make you cry to day. 683 00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:52.720 Yeah well that yeah, you're you were right. That was fine. 684 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:53.960 It has nothing to do with the cold. That was 685 00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:55.480 just because I knew you were gonna make me weepy. 686 00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.000 So yeah, absolutely all right. Larry and will not use 687 00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:03.000 generative AI for Divinity concept art specifically. This is from 688 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.200 Alex Forbes Calvin at I didn't write it down. I 689 00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:09.720 think games industry up is probably not. Belgian game developer 690 00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:12.880 Larryan Studios has confirmed that there will be no Generative 691 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.440 AI used for concept art during the creation of the 692 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:19.640 upcoming RPG Divinity, and a Reddit Ask Me Anything. CEO 693 00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:23.480 and co founder Spinn Vink said that the company would 694 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:25.119 not use jin ai. 695 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:26.599 As part of the concept art process. 696 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.680 The studio lead added that no concept art had been 697 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.880 created using generative AI, but said that he could see 698 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:36.279 how people were confused by his previous remarks. Viink previously 699 00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:39.039 told Bloomberg that it had tried to incorporate AI into 700 00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:42.079 the creation of Divinity, which it resulted in a backlash, 701 00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:45.000 particularly due to the developer seemingly using in the creation 702 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.079 of concept art, or like the early stages of concept 703 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:49.039 art at the very least. 704 00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:50.559 The studio CEO later. 705 00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:54.079 Clarified that it was not replacing concept artists with AI, 706 00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:57.319 adding that the company had used the technology to quote 707 00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.920 explore things in the Reddit. Ama vinc said that it 708 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.200 was removing jin Ai from the entire concept art process 709 00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:08.279 to ensure that players knew all art is original. There 710 00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:11.559 is not going to be any generative AI in Divinity, 711 00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:13.160 he wrote, I know there has been a lot of 712 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.519 discussion about using AI tools as part of the concept 713 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:18.440 art exploration. We already said that this doesn't mean the 714 00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.240 actual concept art is generated by AI, but we understand 715 00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:25.200 it created confusion. So to ensure there is no room 716 00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:28.640 for doubt, we've decided to refrain from using jen Ai 717 00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:32.200 tools during concept art development. That way, there could be 718 00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:36.000 no discussion about the origin of the art. Great a win, 719 00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:37.799 like I think this is a win that people need 720 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.079 to take. This is one of the things people wanted 721 00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:41.599 is you said you were going to do this thing. 722 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:44.000 We don't like it, We're going to yell at you 723 00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:48.079 about it. And they have changed their feelings about this, 724 00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:50.839 they have changed their process. And I think when we 725 00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:53.319 were talking about this before, Rachel on one of the episodes, 726 00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:58.160 I was saying, like, its iterativism is like a thing 727 00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.440 that I know people hate, where it's like take the 728 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:03.359 small wins and try to change things slowly, but I 729 00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:06.240 don't know what other options we really have. So when 730 00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:08.880 you do want a company to stop doing something and 731 00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:12.119 they stop doing that thing, celebrate that as a win. 732 00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:17.799 But there is a however here, Yes there is a 733 00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:21.640 literally having said that, which is the quote that he 734 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:24.920 continues here. We continuously try to improve the speed with 735 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:27.720 which we can try things out. The more iterations we 736 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.279 can do, the better. In general, the gameplay is we 737 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:33.599 think generative AI can help with this, so we're trying 738 00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.240 things out across departments. Our hope is that we it 739 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.119 can aid us to refine ideas faster, leading to a 740 00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.440 more focused development cycle, less waste, and ultimately a higher 741 00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:43.240 quality game. 742 00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.319 It's like, of course he's still leaving the door open, 743 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:48.200 so people will still be mad. 744 00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:51.839 And it's like, while celebrating a small win, that doesn't 745 00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:53.680 mean you have to shut up now. You can keep 746 00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:55.960 being loud about this. But I will say, being loud 747 00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:58.680 about this is what got any sort of of of 748 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:03.039 like backtracking from spen here. So well done to everybody 749 00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.640 who's like standing up and shouting about what they care about. 750 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:09.360 Yeah, I'm not. I'm not usually a fan of gamers 751 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:11.840 sort of like maybe taking their anger out where it's 752 00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:12.880 not necessarily warranted. 753 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.960 It's always it's always like often like misguided, misdirected, right, 754 00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:18.960 so frequently it is yes. 755 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.000 Yeah, but this I think was perfect was a perfectly 756 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:26.400 acceptable use of gamer outrage, if you will, because I mean, 757 00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.480 it's not as if we found out later like with 758 00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.800 Claire Obscure, which had its endie Game of the Year 759 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:35.639 war taken away because it used generative AI in the 760 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.960 in the art process. Am I correct exactly? 761 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:40.159 I can't remember the exact details. 762 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:41.960 Yeah, I got, Look, I was, I knew that was 763 00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:43.719 mostly happening over the holidays, and I was kind of 764 00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:45.559 paying attention. I think it was during the art process, 765 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:46.639 but I can't remember the exact da. 766 00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:50.000 Yeah, but and and everything, and you know, we've that 767 00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.119 we found out after the fact that that had happened, 768 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.400 and it was like, hey, why would you Why would 769 00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:58.079 you use something that is inherently not a creative tool 770 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:00.760 for a creative medium. I think that that's one of 771 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.320 the things everyone was upset about, and I feel I can't. 772 00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.199 I don't necessarily blame Spen either, because it feels like 773 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:11.679 I understand why this seems like a really fun and 774 00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:16.079 shiny new tool, and I understand that everyone doesn't. Nobody 775 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:20.159 wants crunch either. Nobody really wants to crunch their employees 776 00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.840 when there's possibly other solutions. But I don't I really 777 00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:27.039 wish he hadn't used the I appreciate the transparency, but 778 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:30.519 I really wish he hadn't put in that. Having said that, so, yes, 779 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:33.800 if anybody hears him say that and says, you know 780 00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:36.199 what's fenn, I'm not satisfied. I really wish you wouldn't 781 00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.559 use this. Keep telling him that, Keep telling him that 782 00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:40.480 it's important that he hear that. 783 00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:44.599 I think, yeah, it's a it is a thing where 784 00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:48.000 it's like the explanation from people who are concept artists 785 00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:50.639 around the time that this was all going down of 786 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:55.559 why they don't like this really was very compelling to 787 00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:57.719 me and really kind of made it very clear, and 788 00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:01.320 they were all like, it's it's the idea of someone 789 00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:03.320 on the team has an idea and they go to 790 00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:06.320 AI and say, here's my idea for something. Can you 791 00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:10.000 sort of make a very early composite image for me 792 00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.800 that I can hand off to the concept artists and say, hey, 793 00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.280 go explore this idea, and. 794 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:17.440 The concept artists we're all like that. 795 00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:20.840 That's that cuts out a lot of what makes this 796 00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:25.360 job produce good work, And that's that process that it 797 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.719 would be cut out is explain your idea to me 798 00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:31.599 and then let me go do all of the exploration 799 00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:34.400 and the research, because the research is where I learn 800 00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.119 so much about why why these things are the way 801 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.239 they are, what these why this certain architecture was used, 802 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:44.079 the thinking behind it, and all of that learning process 803 00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:48.840 gets incorporated into us building something and creates a foundation 804 00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.599 of quality and a foundation of a world that feels 805 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.679 lived in and real. And it's like, uh, oh yeah, 806 00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:57.559 when I start thinking about some of the best things 807 00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.679 I've ever experienced, you can just sense that there was 808 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:03.559 people on that team who just spent half of their 809 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:08.280 development time, researching and learning and understanding and building a 810 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:12.960 foundation that I think is invaluable to making quality products. 811 00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:16.559 And so it's like, Okay, you want to now what 812 00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:22.199 it sounds like, continue using Jenai to iterate on your 813 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.800 original ideas. That still sounds like it's going to cut 814 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:28.360 out that magical process of people who are good at 815 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:30.639 their jobs and love doing their jobs and love doing 816 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.280 every aspect of it that has that serendipitous effect of 817 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.679 them stumbling across something that they wouldn't have otherwise because 818 00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.599 they're the ones actually going to these books, actually going 819 00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:43.480 into these research facilities and doing the work. And it's 820 00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:46.159 I don't want I don't want to lose any of that, 821 00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:47.320 not one ounce of it. 822 00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:50.800 So no, do to be loud. 823 00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:53.719 Yeah, yeah, And I feel like this is a this 824 00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.440 is a larger discussion probably than just Game as Mornings, 825 00:37:56.440 --> 00:38:00.159 But yeah, I feel yeah, I feel like Jenai. I 826 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:03.760 don't think it's going to necessarily produce the the cost 827 00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:08.719 cutting that developers well that the top top heads of 828 00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:12.159 the studios are perhaps hoping for. I think it's only 829 00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.440 going to end up generating more work for the people 830 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.239 lower down on the ladder who are going to have 831 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:22.800 to clean up the inevitable like AI nonsense that is 832 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.760 generated from all of this and trying to use the 833 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:26.719 word slop. 834 00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.639 But yeah, that's fine. You can you slop as much 835 00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:32.679 as you want on this show. It's yeah. 836 00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:34.840 And the thing is, it's like, there are plenty of 837 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:38.960 algorithmic machine learning tools that we've been using it to 838 00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.199 create games for a very long time now, and it's like, yeah, 839 00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:44.679 that stuff is saving time. You know, there was a 840 00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.119 couple of years ago Unreal Engine. Here, press a button 841 00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.960 and we'll build a city for you. And it's like, yeah, 842 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.000 I mean that should save people a lot of time. 843 00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:56.039 Now what happens next was always like and because everyone 844 00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:58.360 has that as sort of table stakes, you're gonna have 845 00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:00.960 to do even more work on all these other aspects 846 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:03.239 of your world to make your games stand apart and 847 00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:06.400 stand out. And it's like, yeah, that's okay, I think 848 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.039 that's a great thing. We have to keep hiring a 849 00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:10.320 ton of people to make these games because now, sure 850 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:11.800 you can press a button to build a city, but 851 00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:14.159 I want to see you now take the work of 852 00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:16.559 all these people and go build these interiors and now 853 00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:18.840 focus on this other side of the world. That we 854 00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:20.519 haven't been able to see before because they had to 855 00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.880 spend so many years just building the external the city 856 00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:27.320 that we were in before. It's like, I still want 857 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:31.519 all that fun, magical stuff that happens because someone understands 858 00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:34.760 how to build these algorithms. But that algorithm building was 859 00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:39.199 an art in itself, and handing out over to a 860 00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:43.199 black box, to me is something that I don't want 861 00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.639 to see game developers do that in general. And I'm 862 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:49.519 proud of gamers standing up and shouting even if we 863 00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:51.639 don't fully understand like how it's being used. All the time, 864 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:53.639 it's like we could tell this is not going to 865 00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:55.239 end up in with games that we really are going 866 00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:55.760 to be into. 867 00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:57.920 Yeah, I know we have a bunch of other stories 868 00:39:57.960 --> 00:39:59.199 to talk about before the end of the show, so 869 00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:02.039 I don't want to appolize this talking just about jen Ai, 870 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:05.360 but I will say, uh, we had a discussion about 871 00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:09.519 this at gamespeet next when we were at our conference 872 00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:12.000 in San Francisco, and I got to pull out an 873 00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.760 Isaac Asimov reference, which I'm not gonna do the whole 874 00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:18.480 thing for you, but it basically amounts to computers only 875 00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:21.000 seem to work perfectly in conjunction with other computers. The 876 00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:23.559 minute you introduce humans into it, you're also going to 877 00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:27.639 have to introduce humans too, you know, to help out 878 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.480 the computers the minute, the minute they have to interact 879 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.320 with humans, you're gonna introduce, You're gonna have to bring 880 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:35.840 in other humans to teach them how to interact with humans. 881 00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:39.280 So I think, I I yeah, I think that's what's 882 00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:42.079 gonna end up happening if developers end up becoming over 883 00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:44.519 reliant on AI tools, is that somebody is going to 884 00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:47.320 have to come in and clean up, clean up the 885 00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:49.920 work that AI has done, and eventually we're going to 886 00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:52.840 see them. I think eventually we're going to see developers realized, 887 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:54.280 why did I use AI in the first place? I 888 00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:56.639 could have just hired the person that I brought in 889 00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:58.800 to fix the AI in the first place. 890 00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:01.760 Yep, speaking of AI. 891 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:04.320 One of the games that has been in the target 892 00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.519 for that for using AI voice acting Arc Greadors there 893 00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:11.199 having other problems and the dev promises new anti cheating 894 00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:14.039 measures are coming soon. This is from Blair Marnell at 895 00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:17.320 game Spot. The extraction shooter arc Radors has proven to 896 00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:19.199 be one of the top hits of last year, which 897 00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.639 has in turn attracted some unscrupulous players who aren't a 898 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:26.400 blow who aren't above cheating to win. After the rule 899 00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:29.719 abiding arc Greadors players became vocal about their displeasure, in 900 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.679 Mark Studios has announced that new anti cheat measures are 901 00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:35.360 on the way to the game. We've seen the discussion 902 00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.480 around the topic of cheaters and ARC gradors. Reads the 903 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.400 message shared on arc Raadors discord server via PC gamer. 904 00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:43.079 Please know that we are taking this issue very seriously 905 00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.840 and are listening to and acting on your feedback. Over 906 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:48.199 the next few weeks, we are implementing significant changes to 907 00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.960 our rule sets and to playing new detection mechanisms to 908 00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:54.760 identify and remove cheaters. It's the story as old as 909 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:59.880 multiplayer gaming, right at least as old as the last 910 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:04.039 twenty years, every popular online multiplayer shooter specifically, but I 911 00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:06.400 bet every kind of game, if it gets to a 912 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.960 certain level of popularity, it gets to a certain level 913 00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:14.599 of just unplayableness because of cheaters, and our creators is 914 00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:18.480 the latest game in the radicals of those cheaters, and 915 00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:22.239 it's you know, it's a different kind of game, doesn't 916 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.280 have that history of being like a sequel to a 917 00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:26.239 million games before, where It's like we could just roll 918 00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:28.719 over all of the anti cheat stuff we've done before 919 00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:30.480 and built on top of that. They're kind of starting 920 00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:32.519 from scratch here a little bit. Obviously they do have 921 00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:34.920 anti cheats in there, but people are able to get 922 00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:39.119 around it. I you know, if I encounter a cheater 923 00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:41.079 in a game like this, I often be like I'm 924 00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:43.079 off to like, Okay, I'm just gonna put this down 925 00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:44.920 for a while. Call me up when you fix this. 926 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:47.360 So it is a problem they do have to solve, 927 00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:49.559 right because they this is a game that has to 928 00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:53.760 keep chugging along and continuing to keep people happy and satisfied, 929 00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:56.639 and cheating is a great way to spoil that, right. 930 00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:59.679 Yeah, I would hope. I mean, our creators is you know, 931 00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:02.159 is built up some pretty solid momentum. I would hate 932 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:06.559 to see that ruined because people can't stand losing. 933 00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.760 Yeah, yep, it kind of because. 934 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:12.760 They've yea, they have built their careers on being good 935 00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:15.000 at a game or something. Not naming names here, but 936 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:16.960 I think and I both know what that means. 937 00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:20.039 Uh huh, it's uh, that's you know, a lot of 938 00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:23.159 content creators. They can sort of wag the dog here 939 00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:26.480 a little bit where It's like if they are complaining 940 00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:30.320 to their thousands of viewers about cheaters, Uh, that will 941 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:33.400 cause that that sort of uh, hey, let's go annoy 942 00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:35.320 this developer about it. So why are you ruining your 943 00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:37.639 ruining your game by not dealing with these cheaters? And 944 00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:39.440 it becomes the thing that they have the fire they 945 00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.119 most have to put out. So we'll see how they're 946 00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:45.719 able to respond to this. In the meantime, they are 947 00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:49.039 promising some improvements, but we've also heard that story a 948 00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:50.119 million times before. 949 00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:54.599 Yeah, I'm hoping they can have they can come up 950 00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:57.760 every the problem is cheaters are you know, there's no 951 00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.559 one size fits all solution for any multiplayer, so I'm 952 00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:03.920 hoping they can find something that works specifically for Arc Raiders. 953 00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:05.800 Yep. Absolutely. 954 00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:11.280 Massive Entertainment describes the Division three as a monster. This 955 00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:16.239 is from Ben Lyons at Game Reactor. The Julian Garritty 956 00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:18.599 I believe is his name. Who, Yes, Julian Garrity, who 957 00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:21.719 is in charge of Star Wars Outlaws, has gone back 958 00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:23.400 to He's also in charge of Division one. 959 00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:24.960 He's going back to the Division for three. 960 00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:26.679 He also says that he wants this game to have 961 00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:30.119 as big of an impact as the Division one. There's 962 00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:32.679 a big update coming to the Division two, which is 963 00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.519 gonna have like new features and. 964 00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:36.039 Stuff like that. 965 00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:39.880 But the Division three is happening and they're promising it 966 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:45.079 to be this massive new thing. The Division games are 967 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:47.760 ones that like fall off my radar, and then occasionally 968 00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:49.679 I will hear people being like, yeah, that's still like 969 00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:53.400 my game. Can the Division three sort of get back 970 00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:56.000 up into that stratosphere of like, oh, this is one 971 00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:58.159 of the this is like an ARC Raiders in terms 972 00:44:58.199 --> 00:44:59.320 of its level of success. 973 00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:01.039 What do you think that's what. 974 00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:02.760 They're going to go for. I can tell you that much. 975 00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:05.840 They're going to go for that, or yeah, more so 976 00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:07.880 than I would have said a hell Divers too before. 977 00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:10.760 But I think our greaders would probably be the sort 978 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:14.760 of formula that they're trying to emulate. But yeah, I 979 00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:19.159 think I I think it's also going to I think 980 00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:21.519 they're going to make a big push to get the 981 00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:24.760 get the name out there again, because I think it's 982 00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:27.000 been a while since anybody's really talked about the Division 983 00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:30.119 as a franchise. Tom Clancy, Yes, but not the Division. 984 00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:34.480 Yeah, I think people generally do seem very happy with 985 00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.800 the Division two. But it's like, those are the people 986 00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.840 playing that game still, and it's like, can it win 987 00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:43.559 over a larger audience and make that entire audience? 988 00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:44.559 I think so. 989 00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:47.119 I mean part of the series does feel like it. 990 00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:51.079 It's the one relatively newer one. I think that it's 991 00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:52.800 about to be ten years old. I think it turns 992 00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:55.239 ten years old this year, or maybe it did last year, 993 00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:58.280 but still it's like, this feels one of the newer 994 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.960 Ubisoft ones that really found it footing. And then they 995 00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:04.639 they got distracted like a lot of publishers did in 996 00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:07.840 the last few years, of like, hey, why it's got 997 00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:09.679 to spend all this money to build up our own IP. 998 00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:12.239 Let's just go buy an IP or rent an IP 999 00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:14.280 and make something that way. And they did Avatar, and 1000 00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.760 they did this team specifically did Star Wars Outlaws, and 1001 00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:20.559 then obviously the pensulum swung back from that again, right, like, 1002 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:23.159 doesn't seem like a publisher like Ubisoft is going to 1003 00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:25.000 be spending a lot of money to get a Disney 1004 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:28.760 IP anytime soon again, and instead they're like, let's build 1005 00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:30.639 up our own IP. So they're kind of back on 1006 00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:32.840 that track and that has led them back to the division. 1007 00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:34.840 We'll see how it goes. 1008 00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:37.679 I always thought the idea of like getting into the 1009 00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:39.519 Division would be fun. I always would just play through 1010 00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:41.199 a little bit of the campaign and then put it down. 1011 00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:43.440 Who knows, Yeah, same? The Division three wins me over. 1012 00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:46.400 I mean I think they I think if they do 1013 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:48.280 a little bit more promotion of what the world is 1014 00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:52.000 meant to be, because I remember trying to remember what 1015 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.480 it was. But I played the Division two for a while, 1016 00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:57.119 I remember really liking it, and then I remember not 1017 00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.039 playing it for a really long time, and then I 1018 00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:01.880 remember thinking why didn't I play the play the Division 1019 00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:03.880 two anymore? So I think it's that sort of like 1020 00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:06.679 it just doesn't. They need something that sticks to the 1021 00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:09.599 mind somewhat mm hmm about the Division. They need a 1022 00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:12.039 hook that'll bring in, that'll bring people in. 1023 00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:15.199 Uh you know, I think the people are going to 1024 00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:18.119 be wondering what's going on with the Ubisoft's online multiplayer 1025 00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:20.239 games falling this people and chatter playing it out like 1026 00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:25.280 there's still that ongoing problem with Rainbow six Siege being deeply, 1027 00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:28.639 deeply broken in terms of being hacked and just completely 1028 00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:32.920 cracked open. Like I think, just a couple of days ago, 1029 00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:35.440 a bunch of people are finding their accounts hacked for 1030 00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.840 sixty seven days because they're the hackers are just meming 1031 00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.320 like six seven, you're being banned for sixty seven? Oh 1032 00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:44.280 god right, and it's okay. 1033 00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:44.960 Uh. 1034 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:47.360 And I don't know if you'd be soft sort of 1035 00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:50.119 gotten there there or has been able to put out 1036 00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.360 that fire successfully even yet. So I think there'll be 1037 00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:56.039 some questions about their ability to protect their games going forward, 1038 00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:59.039 although after this, I'm sure they'll take that even more seriously. 1039 00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:02.000 All Right, last couple of stories here. Towerborne will be 1040 00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:05.000 launching in full in February. This is from Ben Lyons, 1041 00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:05.760 a Game Reactor. 1042 00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:06.880 Developer. 1043 00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:10.039 Stock has revealed that it's full, finally, time for the 1044 00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:14.599 RPG brawler Towerborn to exit early access and launch in full. 1045 00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.079 The game, which started its life cycle as an early 1046 00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:20.119 access game on PC before coming to Xbox in April 1047 00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.880 twenty twenty five as part of the Xbox Game Preview Project, 1048 00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:26.880 will soon be transforming into its one point zero state 1049 00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:30.719 and getting a multi platform debut as well. As confirmed 1050 00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.960 in an Xbox Wire post, Towerborne will be launching in 1051 00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:38.239 full on February twenty sixth on PC, Xbox Series X 1052 00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:41.360 and SPS five and game Pest, Premium, and Ultimate. When 1053 00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:43.719 this launch does happen, the project will also receive a 1054 00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:48.159 big update that will deliver a reimagined launch experience. They're also, 1055 00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:50.840 I believe, going to charge for this game, because it 1056 00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:53.599 was free up into this point or free to play. 1057 00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:53.880 I don't know. 1058 00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:56.360 It was just like, oh, try like beta test this 1059 00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:57.880 for free, or if they were trying to make it 1060 00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:00.000 a free to play game, but it's going to retail 1061 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:02.480 twenty five dollars instead, there will be a deluxe edition 1062 00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:06.239 for thirty dollars, and hopefully what that means is if 1063 00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:08.039 they were planning I didn't play much of this game, 1064 00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:10.239 if they were planning a bunch of micro transactions and 1065 00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:12.519 stuff like that, they could sort of scale back that 1066 00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:14.920 and let people just play what looks like a pretty 1067 00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.559 promising beat them up RPG game. 1068 00:49:18.519 --> 00:49:19.159 I'm I'm. 1069 00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:21.480 I was always interested in this one again, never spent 1070 00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:24.760 much time with it. They are promising big improvements for 1071 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:26.760 this one point zero release, so it sounds like it's 1072 00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:27.880 time to jump in on this one. 1073 00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:28.400 What do you think? 1074 00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:31.119 I think? So? Yeah, I haven't played it up until now, 1075 00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:33.719 so yeah, I think, Well, I think what the launches on, 1076 00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:36.719 it's one point zero version I will I will definitely 1077 00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:38.199 give it a try yep. 1078 00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:41.719 And then last story here disappointed in the switch two's 1079 00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:45.960 JOYCN colors. Deep Brand has you covered so on yesterday's show, 1080 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:49.440 we talked about the new JOYCN colors, which is really 1081 00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:53.119 just accent colors in the analog stick well and along 1082 00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:57.000 the part that connects to the switch to so mostly hidden, 1083 00:49:57.360 --> 00:49:58.679 you'll be able to see it a little bit. There's 1084 00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:01.159 like a little gap a little well as well where 1085 00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.039 you can see it. And people are like, huh, one 1086 00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:06.239 hundred dollars for these switch to joy cons. They don't 1087 00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:09.960 really look all that different than the original because it's 1088 00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:11.280 very subtle. 1089 00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:11.880 The colors. 1090 00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:15.400 Well, Deep Brand's like, hey, we can put raps on 1091 00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:18.159 your stuff that completely change the colors of your joy Con, 1092 00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:20.480 and why don't you go with us and say, in fact, 1093 00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:23.280 we have these exact colors if you want, and you 1094 00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:26.880 can make you make your whole switch to look different. 1095 00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:29.920 And a lot of people are pretty seem pretty excited 1096 00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:32.719 about this, like, oh yeah, these companies are out there, 1097 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:34.880 and Deep Brand has the name recognition now because they 1098 00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:36.639 were kind of doing this with the PS five early 1099 00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:39.079 on and now here sort of stepping in and being 1100 00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:42.039 a little edgy and confrontational about it. Like I think 1101 00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:44.159 they said what we do as always we do with 1102 00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:46.519 in attend, don't and say, okay, we're still doing that, 1103 00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:49.639 but hey, the right Nintendo is it going to do this? Like, 1104 00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:53.119 I don't think Rachel, throughout this entire switch to generation, 1105 00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:56.159 we're going to get any other sort of coloring style 1106 00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:59.239 other than the inside part of the joy Con and 1107 00:50:59.280 --> 00:50:59.960 the analogs. 1108 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:02.039 Well, I think Nintendo's just going to do that the 1109 00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.599 entire time. At least that's my belief right now, what 1110 00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:04.960 do you think? 1111 00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:08.320 I yeah, I think once they realize that that isn't 1112 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:11.519 really going to sell very much, because I mean I 1113 00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:14.000 have not looked at my switch to and thought, you know, oh, 1114 00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:16.599 I really love if the analog stick had a had 1115 00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:17.480 a purple color. 1116 00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:20.039 Well, I did talk to myself into into like being 1117 00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:23.000 excited about these yesterday, and then the price reminded me like, oh, 1118 00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:25.199 there's no way I'm spending one hundred dollars on these things. 1119 00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:28.000 So exactly, I think there's gonna be some people that 1120 00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:31.400 still get them. But like, there was so much excitement 1121 00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:34.360 for new joy Con colors for the switch one, like 1122 00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.800 every time a new yes, now yeah, and so it's 1123 00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.400 I don't think it's going to match that. So I 1124 00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:42.199 think you might be onto something where if Nintendo sees 1125 00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:44.000 there's a lack of or you know, sort of a 1126 00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:49.119 dearth of excitement for these alternative colors, maybe they will 1127 00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:50.840 change something up. But I don't know if that seems 1128 00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:52.280 that they're going to be setting away like they already 1129 00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:54.159 have all the machining and tools to just do it 1130 00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:54.599 this way. 1131 00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:58.519 So yeah, that's all they do most I think what's 1132 00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:01.280 gonna I think what I hope is going to happen, okay, 1133 00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:04.199 is that if they're going to keep the general sort 1134 00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:07.719 of like black color scheme with accent, but they might 1135 00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:10.639 offer JOYCN with maybe some sort of design on it, 1136 00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:13.719 you know, maybe as sort of a tie in to 1137 00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:16.880 a game or something like. That's true, I'll park it 1138 00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:19.119 like maybe if there's a new Mario game, for example, 1139 00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:21.719 you get JOYCN that has like maybe a red am 1140 00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:22.639 on it for example. 1141 00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:25.159 Yeah, that you know, that's a good idea. 1142 00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:27.239 It's like, you know, those colors can kind of be 1143 00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:29.920 the focus in the in the analytic stick well on 1144 00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:32.719 the side, and if there was just some like etching 1145 00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.159 and other stuff happening on the rest of the controller. 1146 00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:37.639 That would be awesome that I would think that could 1147 00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:39.480 look really cool. But they haven't done any of. 1148 00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:41.480 That now that that would probably cost even more than 1149 00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:44.320 getting new plastic. Yeah, for the whole for the whole 1150 00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:47.320 joy Con too, So that's that's tough. But oh, I 1151 00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:51.239 made myself sad. Yeah, that would be so cool. Oh, 1152 00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:52.360 it's probably not gonna happen. 1153 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:53.679 Probably not gonna happen. 1154 00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:56.639 All right, that does it for the headlines. Let's get 1155 00:52:56.719 --> 00:53:00.039 over to the pole question from yesterday. I have the 1156 00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:02.280 results right here. Let me refresh one more time to 1157 00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:02.920 make sure. 1158 00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:04.880 We are as up to date as possible. 1159 00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:08.679 After five and a half thousand votes the question do 1160 00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:11.880 you have a switch to? Fifty five percent said yes, 1161 00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:15.880 forty five percent said no. We we asked this because 1162 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:18.760 it's like Nintendo had it. Sounds like they struggled a 1163 00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:21.039 little bit through the holiday to sell the very expensive 1164 00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:24.960 switch to to general family audiences, and it's like, oh, 1165 00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:27.239 that might be who they have to focus on, cuz 1166 00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:30.920 fifty five percent of the people in this audience already 1167 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:32.880 have one, and of course that leaves quite a few 1168 00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:34.320 people to still sell to. 1169 00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:35.280 But it's not. 1170 00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:37.880 It's That's not how they're going to get back to 1171 00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:41.079 one hundred million consoles sold. It's going to be selling 1172 00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:43.760 to families who likely already have a switch one and 1173 00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.559 will be a very difficult conversion to convince them that 1174 00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:49.159 they need to get a switch to as well, especially 1175 00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:50.039 at the high price. 1176 00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:53.119 I you know, I have, I have two. 1177 00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:55.280 I got one for my kids as well, So it's 1178 00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:57.360 like I've already kind of done that thing that Nintendo 1179 00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.679 does as well, which is sell console to the same 1180 00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:01.599 people over. 1181 00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:02.199 And over again. 1182 00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:04.760 Although I suppose I'm saying that as if I'm not 1183 00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:06.239 going to buy another one. If they put out a 1184 00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:10.039 switch to o ED or a light or something, I'll 1185 00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:12.480 probably get that as well, And that's another way that 1186 00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:16.559 they boost these numbers. So could turn into one hundred 1187 00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:18.039 and fifty five percent at some point. 1188 00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:20.519 I think you and I are kind of the outliers 1189 00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:23.519 here because it's literally our job to have access to 1190 00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:26.159 as many games as possible and to know about. 1191 00:54:25.960 --> 00:54:27.199 The extreme outliers. 1192 00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:29.880 Yeah, yeah, so I think yeah, I think it it 1193 00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:32.760 We're not necessarily the target audience in that case, because 1194 00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:35.840 Nintendo knows they've got us. They know that we're they 1195 00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:39.000 know that we're we're we're fully in, we're committed. But 1196 00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:42.679 I think the people who are, you know, have just 1197 00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:44.840 don't have the money. You don't have five hundred dollars 1198 00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:48.960 lying around spare and aren't going to get one, you know, professionally. 1199 00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.519 So I think, you know, for professional and personal reasons. 1200 00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:54.400 I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit here and be 1201 00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:56.400 su and pretend I didn't also get it because I 1202 00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:56.920 wanted one. 1203 00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:00.960 Yep, that's right. I'm an Nintendo I am. I am. 1204 00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:03.360 The Nintendo market thing is, I think there's will we 1205 00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:06.599 are outliers. Nintendo has done that strategy forever, right. You 1206 00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:10.639 do the DS, the DS Light, the ds I and 1207 00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:13.400 all these other like the DSIXL and all this stuff, 1208 00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:17.480 and they sell the new system to that most hardcore audience, 1209 00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:21.000 and then those people sell their old systems either secondhand 1210 00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:22.639 or handed to a friend or put it in a drawer. 1211 00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:25.360 Uh and, and that's one of the ways Nintendo has 1212 00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:28.760 always boosted the numbers. But uh yeah, I still think 1213 00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:31.320 that leaves out the audience that was showing up for 1214 00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:34.719 the Switch one to get Mario Party and to get 1215 00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:38.159 Mario Kart, and that I think that that is going 1216 00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:41.159 to be more difficult this generation, and that's not too surprising. 1217 00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:43.519 That is kind of something we've seen every time where 1218 00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:45.880 they have a very successful console and they followed up 1219 00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:48.280 with the sort of the sequel console and it doesn't 1220 00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:50.159 do quite as well. I think we're going to That's 1221 00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:51.559 just where this is going to end up at the 1222 00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:52.480 end of this generation. 1223 00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:55.960 Yeah, we're not quite at w U numbers, you know, 1224 00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:59.039 they they've thankfully surpassed we you numbers with the switch 1225 00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:03.280 to but but yeah, I'm I worry about, like, how 1226 00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:05.000 many people are going to want to go back to 1227 00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:07.960 the well for a switch too unless they you know 1228 00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:11.239 they but this At the same time, I'm also thinking, 1229 00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:13.280 like I don't know if I necessarily want them to 1230 00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:15.800 like release a killer app that is only available on 1231 00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:17.480 the switch too, because I feel bad for all the 1232 00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:20.679 people who don't have five again, don't have five hundred 1233 00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:23.159 dollars lying around spare who won't be able to play it, right. 1234 00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:24.760 And that's that's a good point that You're right, I'm 1235 00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:25.679 ignoring here where. 1236 00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:28.360 It's like Nintendo might be a little okay with this 1237 00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:31.840 with they slow sort of build up to winning over 1238 00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:32.519 that audience. 1239 00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:34.559 Because they can just keep selling a lot of. 1240 00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:36.920 Games to those people on the Switch one for some 1241 00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:41.400 time and and the games will are seemingly still selling 1242 00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:45.719 very well. All right, that is the poll question from yesterday. 1243 00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:49.159 No new poll question because it's Friday. It's time to 1244 00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:51.239 do the bomb twelve here, but in the in the week. 1245 00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:53.119 We'll get to that here in a moment, So let's 1246 00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:55.679 get the other stuff out of the way first. Rachel 1247 00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:57.559 kay is or where could people find you on the internet? 1248 00:56:57.559 --> 00:56:59.559 What do you have going on and all that good stuff. 1249 00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:02.639 You can find me pretty much anywhere under either the 1250 00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:05.480 either my name Rachel Kaser or Grace of Athena, which 1251 00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:08.199 is my online handle. And I am back on TikTok 1252 00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:13.159 after a lengthy hiatus for my health and mental and physical. 1253 00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:16.039 I'm back on TikTok doing the daily game of news. 1254 00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:17.880 So that's where you can find me at the moment. 1255 00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:20.119 Just search for my name Rachel Kaser and you can 1256 00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:22.480 probably find me. And if you don't find my main channel, 1257 00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:25.440 you'll find my other channel, which is games Beats official channel. 1258 00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:27.360 If you don't find that channel, you'll find my other 1259 00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:29.639 other channel where I talk about Golden Girls and dungeons 1260 00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:33.679 and Dragons sometimes at the same time. You can so 1261 00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:36.559 and if you're if you're really hardcore, you can look 1262 00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:38.960 for me on Tumblr, where I also talk about D 1263 00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:40.840 and D and Golden Girls at the same time. 1264 00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:45.039 That seems like the ideal medium for those two things 1265 00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:47.599 at the same time. Absolutely, you'll find us tumbler. 1266 00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:50.159 I find my I find my whole audience on tumbler. 1267 00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:53.039 All right, let's see here. 1268 00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:57.079 Uh, we are going to be doing a few things today. Uh, 1269 00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:00.519 later on we'll have UPF. We're gonna hang out. There 1270 00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:04.400 is this Super Mario sixty four multiplayer mod. We're gonna 1271 00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:06.519 try that out. And it has like a Warrior Where 1272 00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:08.079 mini game mod. 1273 00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:10.559 We're gonna play that. That sounds like a lot of fun. 1274 00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:14.320 But also some other games will pop in there. 1275 00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:17.880 I think Jan had one that looked like a Armored 1276 00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:24.239 Corps meets Vampire Survivors, it meets Fantasy, It looked awesome, 1277 00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:28.760 vital something I can't remember what it's called. And then 1278 00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:31.599 after that, after UPF, we are going to be doing 1279 00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:33.840 this is the run. We're gonna beat a game today. 1280 00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:36.679 We're gonna beat Absolum So me and Dan are gonna 1281 00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:39.960 finally do that. We been testing some stuff there ready 1282 00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:42.360 to go. So this is the run, gonna beat Absolum. 1283 00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:43.239 Look out for that. 1284 00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:45.800 All right, with all that out of the way, I 1285 00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:48.480 think it's time for the Bomb twelve. 1286 00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:49.239 Everybody. 1287 00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:52.440 Welcome to the roundup of the twelve games that really 1288 00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:56.320 matter to people who actually are playing video games. Let's 1289 00:58:56.320 --> 00:59:00.760 start here with number twelve, Shanobi Art of Venge. Number 1290 00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:04.239 eleven is Donkey Kong Bonanza, number ten, Ghost of Yota, 1291 00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:09.280 number nine, Silent Hill f number eight, Kingdom Come Deliverance to. 1292 00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:14.079 Number seven is The Outer World's Too, number six, Battlefield six, 1293 00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:17.800 number five, Death Stranding two on the Beach. Next at 1294 00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:21.599 number four is Clear Obscure Expedition thirty three, and for 1295 00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:25.119 our top three, number three is Metroid Prime. Four beyond 1296 00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:29.199 number two ar Greats, and number one is Hades two 1297 00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:32.480 and Rachel. When I see this list, it looks very 1298 00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:35.000 much like an end of year, like, hey, I've been 1299 00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:36.360 hearing about this game all year. 1300 00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:37.440 Time to go back to it. 1301 00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:42.000 But that's clearly like Kingdom Come Deliverance Too is definitely 1302 00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:45.440 that Shanobi Art of Vengeance was popping up in a 1303 00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:48.559 lot of people's list on our site, clearly like Sean 1304 00:59:48.639 --> 00:59:51.000 had it super high. I think that like got convinced 1305 00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:52.599 a lot of people to go check out that game. 1306 00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:55.519 The outer World's too even we were talking about that earlier. 1307 00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:57.320 Feels like people are like time to check in on 1308 00:59:57.400 --> 00:59:59.440 this game that no one talks about, and it's like 1309 00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:01.639 the handful people that were seem to really like it. 1310 01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:06.119 So yeah, and then Haities two is like, yeah, really 1311 01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:08.519 the big one there where it's like, yeah, everyone's still 1312 01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:10.960 playing that one, still hearing great things and check in 1313 01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:11.360 on it. 1314 01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:14.159 What are you playing this week? I don't know. I 1315 01:00:14.199 --> 01:00:17.039 can't remember if I asked already, I have been. 1316 01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:19.960 I'm trying to remember if there is any games from 1317 01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:21.599 There's a lot of games from twenty twenty five I 1318 01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:24.320 haven't actually checked out, so I think this is probably 1319 01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:27.159 gonna be my my catch up month until of the 1320 01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:30.360 new releases startup. I did play my very first new 1321 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:33.360 game of twenty twenty six because there is a there's 1322 01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:36.519 an indie game series that they always release a new 1323 01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:39.000 game every year like Clockwork on January first, and is 1324 01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:42.960 the Carrol Reid games from MDNA Games. It is as 1325 01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:45.400 underground as it goes. You can't get them on any storefront. 1326 01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:47.360 You can only get them directly from the developer. 1327 01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:49.679 But that's develop great. 1328 01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:53.280 Yeah. The developer releases a new Carol Reid game every 1329 01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:55.519 year on January first. This year it was called the 1330 01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:58.800 Final Chapter. And so I have already played my first 1331 01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:00.719 new game for twenty twenty six, so I feel like 1332 01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:01.960 I'm off to a good start. 1333 01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:02.960 All right. 1334 01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:05.920 I will, yes, I'll get up the website updated with 1335 01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:08.960 the Bomb twelve and the link there where it says 1336 01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:11.159 vote here to submit your game and all that stuff. 1337 01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:13.039 That'll be updated today as well. So if you want 1338 01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:16.639 to start adding your game for next week's the Bomb twelve, 1339 01:01:16.679 --> 01:01:18.960 you could begin doing that later today here on Friday 1340 01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:22.320 and all through Thursday evening, and then we'll come back 1341 01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:24.760 with you with the new Bomb twelve next Friday's Game 1342 01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:25.559 Mess Mornings. 1343 01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:30.280 Looking forward to it. All right, that's the first week. 1344 01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:33.320 Of Giant Bomb back in twenty twenty six, all wrapped 1345 01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:36.039 up in terms of Game Mess Mornings. Rachel Caser, thank 1346 01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:37.400 you so much for hanging out with me and talking 1347 01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:39.119 about video games. I really appreciate it. 1348 01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:41.360 Me thanks for letting me talk about fire Emblum for 1349 01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:42.599 twenty odd minutes. 1350 01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:47.360 Anytime anytime, We'll make that happen whenever you want. Yeah, 1351 01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:50.480 I think I did say to Bomb twelve. In the meantime, 1352 01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:53.000 thank you everybody for watching. You are the best audience 1353 01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:55.960 in gaming. Until next time, have a good one, take 1354 01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:58.400 care of yourself and goodbye banks 1355 01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:00.800 Bett