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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your pudding. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,

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<v Speaker 1>my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 1>the fence and he was dead. And once you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling

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<v Speaker 1>around out here? Did you see what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Or was it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Quice, you better hello, hit thebody out here, quin,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out there.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought of a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bench about tech forty nine. I don't know. Easy ann

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<v Speaker 1>out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm welcome right, hey, hey, welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a little under the weather and jet lagged from

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<v Speaker 4>my trip across the pond to England for the red

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<v Speaker 4>carpet premiere of the documentary I was in that came

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<v Speaker 4>out earlier this year called My Bigfoot Life.

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<v Speaker 2>But boy, did I have a great.

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<v Speaker 4>Time meeting all of you that came out to support

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<v Speaker 4>the cast and crew as we celebrated this huge milestone.

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<v Speaker 4>It was great catching up with old friends like Ryan Rpg, Gullumbeski,

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<v Speaker 4>Ronnie LeBlanc, daniel Lee Barnett and his amazing family, and

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<v Speaker 4>meeting so many new friends. I know you've heard me

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<v Speaker 4>talk about my encounters while we were filming out in

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<v Speaker 4>Washington State, But if you want to see it unfold

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<v Speaker 4>in real time, click the link right here in the

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<v Speaker 4>show notes, or head over to Amazon Prime Video now

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<v Speaker 4>and search for My Bigfoot Life. It's also available for

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<v Speaker 4>pre order on Apple TV. Okay, shameless plugover, Let's get

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<v Speaker 4>to the real reason you all are here. Jerry and

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<v Speaker 4>the crew from Sasquatch Recon are back, and this time around,

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry's diving deeper into his experiences in and around the

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<v Speaker 4>South Mountains area here in North Carolina. And I got

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<v Speaker 4>to tell you, I've been looking forward to sharing this

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<v Speaker 4>one with y'all. I actually got to spend some time

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<v Speaker 4>out in the woods with these guys toward the end

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<v Speaker 4>of last year, got to see Jerry's property firsthand, walked

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<v Speaker 4>through a lot of the areas he's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>talking about tonight, and I'll just say this, when you're

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<v Speaker 4>standing out there in those woods hearing somebody describe what

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<v Speaker 4>they've witnessed in the very spot you're standing, it hits different.

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<v Speaker 2>It really does. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Beyond the encounters and the location stuff, the guys also

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<v Speaker 4>get into a really interesting discussion about dog Man and

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<v Speaker 4>whether or not sasquatch migrate. And look, it's clearly all speculation.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody's got the definitive answer on that. But honestly, that's

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<v Speaker 4>one of the many reasons this subject fascinates me so much.

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<v Speaker 4>We're still piecing it together, we're still asking the questions,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that's what keeps a lot of us

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<v Speaker 4>coming back to this. But here's the thing that really

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<v Speaker 4>caught my attention. Toward the end of their discussion, they

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<v Speaker 4>talk about something that I have personally experienced and it

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<v Speaker 4>might point to at least some type of migration or

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<v Speaker 4>seasonal movement at the very least, and that's the vocalizations

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<v Speaker 4>and activity spiking in the winter months. Almost all of

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<v Speaker 4>the vocalizations and footprint evidence that we've experienced on our

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<v Speaker 4>property has been late October through February. That's the window.

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<v Speaker 4>And when Jerry and the guy started talking about that

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<v Speaker 4>same kind of pattern. I'm sitting there nodding my head, going, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we see the exact same thing. So I'd love to

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<v Speaker 4>hear your thoughts on that, or really on any of

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<v Speaker 4>the other things the guys are kicking around as they

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<v Speaker 4>talk about it. Do you see the same thing in

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<v Speaker 4>your research area, Do you have a theory on migration,

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<v Speaker 4>or maybe you've just had an experience and you want

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<v Speaker 4>to share it on the show. Shoot me in an

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<v Speaker 4>email brianat Paranormalworldproductions dot com. I read every single one

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<v Speaker 4>of them, and I love hearing from you guys. If

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<v Speaker 4>you want to hear more from Jerry and the guys

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<v Speaker 4>over at Sasquatch Recon click the link right here in

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<v Speaker 4>the show notes and head over to their YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 4>And one last thing before we get into the episode.

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<v Speaker 4>This audio was recorded in a public place, not my studio,

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<v Speaker 4>so there is some background noise here and there. I've

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<v Speaker 4>cleaned it up as best I could, and honestly, I

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<v Speaker 4>think you'll hardly notice it. All Right, that's enough out

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<v Speaker 4>of me. I need to go take a nap. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'll start with the progression of how I've

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<v Speaker 2>got from where I was to where I'm at now.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was seven, give or take, my granddaddy took

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<v Speaker 2>me to see Legend and Boggie Creek nineteen seventies, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when I was ten, nineteen seventy seven, at the

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<v Speaker 2>Scholastic book fair at Mestner City Central Elementary School, I

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<v Speaker 2>bought a Bigfoot, thee Bigfoot by b and Slaton Alanberry

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<v Speaker 2>Thus was born a lifelong interest, but at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>up until ten years ago or so, it was purely

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<v Speaker 2>for entertainment. And we moved to the South Mountains area.

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<v Speaker 2>Being a person that likes the woods, I immediately started

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<v Speaker 2>taking advantage of my new surroundings, spending days and days

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<v Speaker 2>in woods. Began to notice tree breaks. I knew enough

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<v Speaker 2>about it to know what I was seeing. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you find one or two, that's one thing. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>by the time I hit a dozen in many different

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<v Speaker 2>places there, I reached out the loud Blackburn on email,

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<v Speaker 2>said tell me about this. He said, yeah, you're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>tree breaks and most of them probably point toward water.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was right. So the next thing that was

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<v Speaker 2>the progression a big step was I heard my first

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<v Speaker 2>wood knock. That was in summer twenty fifteen. I was

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<v Speaker 2>still working then, so I had to get up early

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning. At five thirty am. I had the

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<v Speaker 2>windows and I would knock from one of the nearby

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<v Speaker 2>hollers rang out. I wasn't sure what I was hearing,

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<v Speaker 2>but I knew it was something hitting a tree, and

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<v Speaker 2>it started to gain momentum. After that, we started hearing vocalizations,

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<v Speaker 2>the whoops, these weird growls. We would hear these howls

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<v Speaker 2>that started off real low and very creepy. So my

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<v Speaker 2>interest was peaking. I said, there's something going on around

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<v Speaker 2>the South Mountains. August to twenty seventeen, my wife and

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<v Speaker 2>I was driving and we turned right onto a dead

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<v Speaker 2>end road. There was cornfield on the left, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course it was August, so the corn was up all

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<v Speaker 2>the way and there standing beside the road, five feet

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<v Speaker 2>outside the corn was a booger. And what struck me

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<v Speaker 2>the most was how broad shouldered that thing was and

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<v Speaker 2>just how big and bulky it was, standing of course

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<v Speaker 2>taller than the corn. And it took me a minute

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<v Speaker 2>to process it, and I got the car stopped. In

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<v Speaker 2>my mind, I'm going to back the car up and

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<v Speaker 2>then point the headlights and Nancy said, hurry, it's moving.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, it's going into the corn. And I got

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<v Speaker 2>the car backed up, got the headlights on it. But

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<v Speaker 2>he had just went into the corn. But you could

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<v Speaker 2>see it above the corn moving and you can see

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<v Speaker 2>the corn moving along with it. Now, I didn't go

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<v Speaker 2>through that corn like a bear wood, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>a bull in the china shop and just mow over

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<v Speaker 2>the corn and leave a swath. It was moving between

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<v Speaker 2>the stalks, and I would have to say fast but gracefully.

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<v Speaker 2>The bug bit me right then, and I had to

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<v Speaker 2>know things.

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<v Speaker 5>Gets in your skin. Gotta know more.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one thing to read about it. It's one thing

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<v Speaker 2>to hear. The wooden arts vocalizations are find the evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hadn't found a footprint up at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>but to see one and it was twenty feet from us,

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<v Speaker 2>I was hooked. It still entertains me to do this,

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<v Speaker 2>to read and still how far from your house back

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of miles, not even two miles. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>there in the middle, we're there in a squatchy place.

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<v Speaker 2>And then December of twenty nineteen, it was one of

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<v Speaker 2>my family members and he still has a career. So

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<v Speaker 2>I won't identify specifically which family member, but he and

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<v Speaker 2>my daughter come to stay some days during Christmas vacation,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've seen one down the woods next to my

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<v Speaker 2>pasture bleeding more. That one wasn't fascinating as the first one,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was being that close, even closer than my house.

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<v Speaker 2>I want, what are they doing? What are they? All

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<v Speaker 2>these questions, you know, all the questions you have. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I started spending more time in the woods, started

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<v Speaker 2>spending a lot more time at night outside, go out,

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<v Speaker 2>check on my pasture, animals, maybe get a chair to

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<v Speaker 2>just sit and listen, take my dogs walking around. And

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<v Speaker 2>over the years I've gotten to hear a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Our feed barrels being broke into. They have the locking

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<v Speaker 2>bands on something with intelligence and a thumb has to

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<v Speaker 2>open doors. It's like pranks that's been played on us

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<v Speaker 2>by the boggers. Take stuff out of the barn, just

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<v Speaker 2>put it out in the pasture. Drag our water barrels

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<v Speaker 2>halfway down the hill. We had our stuff in our backyard.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a picnic table and some other things. One

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<v Speaker 2>morning on went down there and it was strolling all

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<v Speaker 2>over the backyard and I was told, and I believe this.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a juvenile or two entertaining themselves, just like

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<v Speaker 2>a human teenager dude beating on our house. I took

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<v Speaker 2>a trip out west. Second night I was back home.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess one of them wanted to meeting. He's still there.

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<v Speaker 2>It beat on the front of the house about twelve

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock that Now, it's been a common thing with the

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<v Speaker 2>beating on the house at odd hours. That's happened a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's happened a whole lot. Y'all live in a place

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<v Speaker 2>where people generally don't like men out at night anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't go creeping around somebody's house, because if

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<v Speaker 2>you're found doing that at night, you'll be found laying

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<v Speaker 2>there the next I've not got a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>to open up to me that's in my inner circle

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<v Speaker 2>as far as where I live, except for one couple.

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<v Speaker 2>When I started talking to other folks concerted efforts to

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<v Speaker 2>try to get information, especially from these old times, I

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<v Speaker 2>had a few open up, and I made it known

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<v Speaker 2>that just a small number of people I was interested

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<v Speaker 2>in it. Went to work at the store in case

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<v Speaker 2>that mental store, Mountain New Grocery, and I hadn't only

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<v Speaker 2>been hired a couple of weeks and the owner called me.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, Fox is coming to do a documentary. I

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<v Speaker 2>told them about you. You'd be willing an interview. I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let me think about it. Called the dude I guess

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<v Speaker 2>he was in LA. Said yah, I'll do it, and

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<v Speaker 2>she silhouetted me, and this guy's my voice. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>no problem, So they came. They did it. It aired

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<v Speaker 2>in January twenty one, if I remember not. They silhouetted me,

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<v Speaker 2>but they did not disguise my voice. So I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in for it. Ridiculed and that's why most people

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<v Speaker 2>stay quiet about it. But really I had nobody that

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<v Speaker 2>was ugly about it. One guy kind of gave me

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time, but he gave me a hard time

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<v Speaker 2>about everything. He was just that kind of dude. But

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, people started coming to tell me

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<v Speaker 2>their stories. After a couple of years, you know, interview

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<v Speaker 2>thirty people, which is my favorite thing. That's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in love with hearing people's encounters. That's how I

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<v Speaker 2>that we hear from other people that we feel like

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<v Speaker 2>are credible, the more. It validates. I don't need anybody's approval,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like hearing these stories because you know there's

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<v Speaker 2>other people out there that originally felt the same way

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<v Speaker 2>as I did. And you didn't want to tell nobody

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<v Speaker 2>about it too for from people, But when you get

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<v Speaker 2>to start talking about it, it does something for you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Oh yeah, twenty nineteen. You and I had

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<v Speaker 2>met in twenty twenty, so it would have been after

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<v Speaker 2>that that men and Dwight hooked up for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember exactly when, but you and I became

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<v Speaker 2>friends on Facebook, and then I guess me and Dwight

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<v Speaker 2>became friends by proxy because I wound up. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why. I just picked the phone up one night

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<v Speaker 2>and I sent the light a message said, man, we've

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<v Speaker 2>won't talk to something about it, and y'all I would

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<v Speaker 2>trust y'all, And and Dwight called me. We talked about

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<v Speaker 2>an hour or so on the phone, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>came up, spent some time one night, and then next

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<v Speaker 2>time you came and meeting you guys. Getting in Dirty

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<v Speaker 2>South Squatching now sasquat free com was the best thing

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<v Speaker 2>that could have happened to you in this, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, you're in a great spy you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean you lived there.

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<v Speaker 3>When we do stuff we have to travel hour to

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<v Speaker 5>That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know there's been people, even people that's close

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<v Speaker 2>to me then said why do you get to have

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<v Speaker 2>all his experiences? And I have to remind him. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>outside every night even if it's raining, or I've got

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<v Speaker 2>dogs to take out. I've got animals to check on

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<v Speaker 2>before it every night of the year unless I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a rare occasion of me being gone on

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<v Speaker 2>the trip. I've had a couple of close people. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I'll basically cut ties with them because they said

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't believe me. Let me energect this right.

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<v Speaker 3>I would tell people that as I got into this

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<v Speaker 3>step son, I would tell.

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<v Speaker 5>Him about stopping showing a picture.

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<v Speaker 3>One day, I said, hey, we've got some new stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and he had this really weird we'll come today and

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I said, do you think I'm pull up

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<v Speaker 3>it or you don't believe me? No, he said, I

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<v Speaker 3>So if you don't mind, don't shove me that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow. So I think some of those.

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<v Speaker 3>People that are uku and whatever I think deep down inside,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't want to think that these things ra actually

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt. I'm not a believer. I'm a knower. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>One guy in particular watches all the televised beat Foot

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<v Speaker 2>shows and eats it up and asks for seconds, not

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<v Speaker 2>casting dispersions on any one show, but you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>some stuff out there that descripted both.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've reached out to him and I said, I know

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<v Speaker 2>you're interested in this, and he said he didn't believe me, really,

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<v Speaker 2>and he sets on the safety of his couch, watched

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff on this TV and invited him to come,

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<v Speaker 2>so we get down the creek. Bimal camp never took

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<v Speaker 2>me up. So over time, I've given up some of

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<v Speaker 2>those hard feelings I had, And what you just said

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<v Speaker 2>makes a lot of sense, and I could very well

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<v Speaker 2>be the case.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't want to admit it. He admitted that, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I never even thought of it. Not everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think a lot that's scarcely crownphat it that

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<v Speaker 2>They have scared me on more than one a cape.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely encounters, you know, way down near the creek bottom

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<v Speaker 2>checking old animals, or I had an animal missing. This

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<v Speaker 2>has happened several times and I have to go looking

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<v Speaker 2>for One night I was spotlighting looking for it was

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<v Speaker 2>a blomber that had been sick, and they'll go off

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<v Speaker 2>by themselves here. And I had a pair of red

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<v Speaker 2>eyes in the woods. And then one night I was

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<v Speaker 2>looking for one of my animals. I was way down there,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way next to the fence, and I heard

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<v Speaker 2>whistle that scared me. And twice I've been hollered at

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<v Speaker 2>at a cat that I thought was my cat. One

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<v Speaker 2>night was going downhill, so no, no, you can't go down.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going after everything in these woods will eat you.

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<v Speaker 2>I got all the way to the bottom and I

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<v Speaker 2>got close enough I figured out the cat was mone

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<v Speaker 2>I looked down and my cats had followed me. Oh man, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it was about to laugh about me. And suddenly, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>third yards probably a little less inside the woodline, I

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<v Speaker 2>picked two of the cats up because I could only

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<v Speaker 2>carry two and I had my spotlight. Dang, and I

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<v Speaker 2>went back up that hill like I was twenty years

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<v Speaker 2>older here and then is this speak that scared me?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I wasn't even that far down. On the

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<v Speaker 2>second time, I got yelled at over to on the

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<v Speaker 2>eastern side from it had to be. It wasn't in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods, it was out in this field that's next

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<v Speaker 2>to me. Couldn't pinpoint where, but I got yelled. It

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<v Speaker 2>was close enough that I felt it for that base

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<v Speaker 2>sea vibrate. Its almost like you're standing next to a

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<v Speaker 2>base speaker. And here's what I was told that they

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<v Speaker 2>were probably at that late hour down there hunting deer.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't want her down there. I can buy that.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that I can absolutely. The closest I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>came to getting hurt is the rock growing incidence. And

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<v Speaker 2>my wife back in first week into August twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>little creek, walking way downward creek, middle of nowhere, after

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<v Speaker 2>we had heard two wooden knocks broad daylight, a rock

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<v Speaker 2>come in from our left, which would have been the west,

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<v Speaker 2>and missed her head by no more than six inches,

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<v Speaker 2>sail right overhead landed in the creek. The old piece

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<v Speaker 2>of courts about that big There's been four rock throwing

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<v Speaker 2>incidents right there in our general area. The first one

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<v Speaker 2>two hunters, father and son team. They was in separate

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<v Speaker 2>tree stems, and the sun heard what he described to

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<v Speaker 2>be eight like noise. He heard walking. This was zero

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<v Speaker 2>dark hunter like five o'clock in the morning. It's still dark.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he hears walking in the leaf lit there and

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<v Speaker 2>it went silent, and he heard, and he said he

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<v Speaker 2>just instinctively knew it was the sound of something that

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<v Speaker 2>had been thrown coming through the trees and a rock

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<v Speaker 2>that was a little smaller in the volleyball, cause it

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<v Speaker 2>was still there. When I went to the investmentry that

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<v Speaker 2>had hit that big sweet gum, he was in it

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<v Speaker 2>and knocked the mark of the sweet gam This was

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty eighteen. He said, the only thing I could

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<v Speaker 2>do was stay in that tree. After that, he curped,

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<v Speaker 2>held his hunting and say that I blame the second

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<v Speaker 2>rock thrown incident, my cousin and some of my family

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<v Speaker 2>came up and camped out there a night hike. As

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<v Speaker 2>we finished the night hike was heading down the western

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<v Speaker 2>end of that ridge. That's on the property and a

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<v Speaker 2>rock came in from my right, which would have been

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<v Speaker 2>from the north. I was in the very back of

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<v Speaker 2>the line. French child was in front of him and

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<v Speaker 2>it barely missed his head. There was a rock thrown

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<v Speaker 2>instant where my friend's ran new jeep broad Daylight down

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<v Speaker 2>near the Broad River. Bam rock hit the top of

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<v Speaker 2>it with sufficient force the scar of the roof. Then

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<v Speaker 2>there was the rock thrown incident in the line. But

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<v Speaker 2>out of everybody I've talked to that area, I have

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<v Speaker 2>no stories where a person was hurt. None dogs. We

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of dogs that are missing. A dog

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<v Speaker 2>that hung around our place was attacked by something and

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<v Speaker 2>he wound up dying of internal injuries, but he had

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<v Speaker 2>been slammed against a tree. Another dog, the big old dog,

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<v Speaker 2>about one hundred pounds, dog, was found. He went missing.

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<v Speaker 2>Neighbor wasn't looking found him in the creek bottom alive

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<v Speaker 2>in the creek with his back brook. Prior to us

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<v Speaker 2>living in the area, there had been an incident where

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's dog then just absolutely beat the death. Many other

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<v Speaker 2>stories in and around cases of dogs being killed, cats, goats,

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<v Speaker 2>and pigs. That seems to be the list either they

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<v Speaker 2>go just missing pig disappears out of a peak, never

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<v Speaker 2>find it. The pig didn't dig out, something lifted it

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<v Speaker 2>out of there. What can lift the pig?

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<v Speaker 3>And if there was some other natural predator there wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>have been in a hack right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Right on the spot. You know, there was the famous

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<v Speaker 2>time period in that area from seventy eight and seventy

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<v Speaker 2>nine where it was a frenzy of sightings and one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things was mister Forrest Price found one of

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<v Speaker 2>his goats with its neck bird. That makes sense to

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<v Speaker 2>me because of the deer kills that we found relatively

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<v Speaker 2>small area. You know, you find over a period of

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<v Speaker 2>a year, you find a dozen twelve thirteen fourteen deer kills,

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<v Speaker 2>various stages of decay, from bleached bones all the way

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<v Speaker 2>afresh ribs, broken legs, broken legs yanked off. There was

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<v Speaker 2>the one where the deer's front legs were yanked off

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<v Speaker 2>together and we're still attacked laying there on the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>but several had their necks broken. If that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they use certain areas. You've got the watchers

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<v Speaker 2>and the chasers. Watchers will hide in all holler. The

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<v Speaker 2>chasers will funnel them. They don't have weapons, so they

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<v Speaker 2>just have to grab them, attack them, man handle them.

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<v Speaker 2>In the quickest way in state them is break a leg,

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<v Speaker 2>break the neck, and more than ample evidence of that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing else in those woods can grab a deer and

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<v Speaker 2>crush its ribs and break its leg or break its neck.

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<v Speaker 2>You find one deer with a broken neck, there might

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<v Speaker 2>be an explanation, but multiple that is even further convinced me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think they're at least in our area

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<v Speaker 2>in the South Mountains, I don't think they're dangerous to

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<v Speaker 2>first couple of years in that area, I would pack

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<v Speaker 2>my bag, put a hammock in my back, might go

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<v Speaker 2>on a seven eight hour hike, stop somewhere, string them up,

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<v Speaker 2>taken out. I would camp out by myself. If they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to hurt me, they had plenty of chances. But

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<v Speaker 2>I got spoofed. Back about twenty eighteen, I hit a

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<v Speaker 2>period of being spoofed. Tho it ain't the best idea

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<v Speaker 2>in the world for me to be out there at

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<v Speaker 2>night by myself, and I still have that feeling, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not so much spruit as much as it is

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<v Speaker 2>the unknown, because we don't know. We don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>else is out there. I don't know that the squatches

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<v Speaker 2>that are killing these dogs like this. It's the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't know. I don't want to line up

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<v Speaker 2>on the missing four one one. During the day, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>hike by myself. There certain areas I won't go into

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<v Speaker 2>my myself. The area with all the deer kills, there's

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<v Speaker 2>two areas. I won't go there by myself day or night.

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<v Speaker 2>Things just a matter of common See No Dwight helped

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<v Speaker 2>me out greatly on something. I was doing my research

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<v Speaker 2>on that time period in nineteen seventy eight nineteen seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 2>and he found a documentary that a man came did

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<v Speaker 2>in early nineteen eighty. His name was John N. Alexander.

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00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Dwight sent it to I needed to interview a couple

419
00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:23.880
<v Speaker 2>of people, but I couldn't because they were dead. Within

420
00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:28.599
<v Speaker 2>this documentary, I learned so much. Witnesses led my research

421
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<v Speaker 2>to something other than bigfoot. I'm convinced they had three

422
00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:34.279
<v Speaker 2>things going on there in that time period. They had

423
00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:37.799
<v Speaker 2>a rogue squatch that was out didn't mind showing itself

424
00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:41.160
<v Speaker 2>at the time. There was a big male panther, but

425
00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:44.839
<v Speaker 2>I believe there was something else because in that documentary

426
00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:50.000
<v Speaker 2>they talked about finding huge canine like tracks and they

427
00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:51.519
<v Speaker 2>had a cast on one of them. They showed it

428
00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:55.440
<v Speaker 2>on a documentary that dead and it puzzled some of

429
00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:58.240
<v Speaker 2>the old timers that mint in these was the whole life.

430
00:22:58.599 --> 00:23:02.000
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like huge, I'm at the point where I

431
00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:04.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I'm completely comfortable saying that I believe

432
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<v Speaker 2>in dogmen, but I don't believe in dogmen.

433
00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:08.599
<v Speaker 5>I've talked to people who I think are proud to

434
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<v Speaker 5>do it.

435
00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:12.240
<v Speaker 2>They've seen them same here. I'm about out of my

436
00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:15.559
<v Speaker 2>shell on dogmen. Maybe this will completely get me out

437
00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:18.200
<v Speaker 2>of it. I've talked to enough credible people too. You

438
00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:22.039
<v Speaker 2>guys things y'all experience in the other people that I met,

439
00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:24.400
<v Speaker 2>the dudes in NCI and some with the other mountain people.

440
00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:28.160
<v Speaker 2>There's something out there besides the Bigfoot. There was one incident,

441
00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:32.880
<v Speaker 2>and at the time I wasn't educated enough to think

442
00:23:32.920 --> 00:23:36.279
<v Speaker 2>it was something other than a squad. Was twenty nineteen.

443
00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:40.039
<v Speaker 2>I was out late one night down the hill in

444
00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:42.720
<v Speaker 2>my creek body. In fact, it was the spot where

445
00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:45.599
<v Speaker 2>y'all came and set up that one night in that

446
00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:49.319
<v Speaker 2>general area. I hear this howl, unlike anything I had

447
00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:52.039
<v Speaker 2>heard up at that point. I know my animals in

448
00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:56.640
<v Speaker 2>western North Carolina. I know what hows codes. It definitely

449
00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:58.720
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a wolf house. I've heard plenty of wolf house.

450
00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:02.759
<v Speaker 2>It was not any known animal. And it started out

451
00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:06.319
<v Speaker 2>this low howl and it crescendoed, and there was so

452
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:10.720
<v Speaker 2>much power behind that, and it was so close I was, actually,

453
00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean I was a comfortable distance away, probably three

454
00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:18.000
<v Speaker 2>hundred yards. That scared me. Matter of fact, it inspired

455
00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.759
<v Speaker 2>me to write that scary poem that I did called

456
00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:24.240
<v Speaker 2>The Haunted. Well. That impacted me greatly. It almost made

457
00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:27.440
<v Speaker 2>me emotional. There was something about that incident. There's been

458
00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:29.559
<v Speaker 2>other times I've been in the woods and you guys

459
00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:33.799
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm talking about. Who just suddenly you feel scared. Yeah,

460
00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:38.000
<v Speaker 2>you got this weird feeling, or something happens, you feel emotional,

461
00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:41.599
<v Speaker 2>You just all of a sudden feel emotional. That night,

462
00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I went inside and I was telling Nancy what I

463
00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:47.960
<v Speaker 2>just heard, just about crying. I didn't know what was

464
00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:50.839
<v Speaker 2>wrong then. Am I having some kind of breakdown? But

465
00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I've heard that twice now, most recently back in April,

466
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:58.279
<v Speaker 2>my son and his crew came and got an airbnb

467
00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:04.400
<v Speaker 2>over in the country. My daughter and her friend and

468
00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I were outlaid just listening and we heard it and

469
00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:10.119
<v Speaker 2>it was coming. That place is right at the foot

470
00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:13.640
<v Speaker 2>of the South Mountains, and we heard that howl. Immediately

471
00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:18.559
<v Speaker 2>after we heard that hol behind us somewhere something answered.

472
00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:21.799
<v Speaker 2>So I've heard it a total of two times, but

473
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:24.640
<v Speaker 2>that night we heard it twice back moon in the

474
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:27.559
<v Speaker 2>mountains and then behind us, which will be in south

475
00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:27.920
<v Speaker 2>of us.

476
00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:33.640
<v Speaker 3>And you wonder if that's not something downside for ancestral

477
00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:35.279
<v Speaker 3>DNA or something.

478
00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:39.440
<v Speaker 2>In the triggering the flight or fight well flight, because

479
00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:41.559
<v Speaker 2>I ain't fiction to try to fight nothing. This is

480
00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.559
<v Speaker 2>eight nine freet tall. Mama raised ugly kids, but not

481
00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:47.640
<v Speaker 2>dumb ones. I don't know if you'll remember this or not.

482
00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:49.640
<v Speaker 2>The first night that you came out, you and DW.

483
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:52.240
<v Speaker 2>White came and I was telling you that I'd had

484
00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:54.759
<v Speaker 2>those experiences where I had that uneasy feeling and I

485
00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:57.519
<v Speaker 2>was scared, and you told me then to wipe back

486
00:25:57.559 --> 00:25:59.200
<v Speaker 2>you up. Said, if you're buy yourself and you have

487
00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:03.440
<v Speaker 2>that feeling, get out leave. And that's the rule I've

488
00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:06.000
<v Speaker 2>gone by because what's going on deep in the middle

489
00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:09.519
<v Speaker 2>of our brain with here's your sign, like they say,

490
00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:14.000
<v Speaker 2>read the roue. You know, there's a lot of crazy

491
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:17.200
<v Speaker 2>things just happened in that one spot. The family my

492
00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:19.839
<v Speaker 2>friends went in camp there the night. They heard the

493
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:24.559
<v Speaker 2>gibberish language and they stayed. The gibberish quit, but then

494
00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:27.279
<v Speaker 2>they were surrounded on three sides in the middle of

495
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:29.880
<v Speaker 2>the night. They packed up everything, the kids. They could

496
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:31.559
<v Speaker 2>have camped for a week, that's how much stuff they had.

497
00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:33.319
<v Speaker 2>And I went down there and check on that. When

498
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:36.759
<v Speaker 2>they were gone, check you said, call me. They told

499
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>me the story, and so said I couldn't stay.

500
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:44.440
<v Speaker 5>And I think, kids, well your thought is I can't

501
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:48.200
<v Speaker 5>expose my kids to this, but I think the rogers

502
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:48.799
<v Speaker 5>liked to see you.

503
00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:51.319
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I think that's what drew them in that

504
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:53.839
<v Speaker 2>day because they got there early, went down there. There's

505
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:56.559
<v Speaker 2>playing and you could hear the sound of children. It

506
00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:59.559
<v Speaker 2>was two younger children in the green and they were

507
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:01.559
<v Speaker 2>laughing and play in like kids. And I believe that

508
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:04.880
<v Speaker 2>broad rent too, and they were curious. As you know

509
00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:09.119
<v Speaker 2>that spot. I personally camp there with greed and one

510
00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:11.559
<v Speaker 2>occasion we were surrounded like that, and I don't know

511
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:15.759
<v Speaker 2>what their intentions are or were probably just curious, just

512
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.240
<v Speaker 2>like we. We were keeping an eye on us because

513
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:21.119
<v Speaker 2>we're in their home. But I remember laying there that

514
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:25.240
<v Speaker 2>night and thinking, there are really unknown creatures living in

515
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:28.559
<v Speaker 2>these woods, and they're twenty thirty yards from me, and

516
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:31.519
<v Speaker 2>there's more than one over don't matter how many people's

517
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:34.240
<v Speaker 2>down here sleeping in these tents. If they wanted to

518
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:37.200
<v Speaker 2>get us, we'd be got. They are masters of their environment.

519
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:42.640
<v Speaker 2>They have this tremendous physical size and speed. There are

520
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:45.279
<v Speaker 2>nothing to stop. There's more than one, and they're usually

521
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:48.039
<v Speaker 2>is if you have means of self defense, and you

522
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:50.920
<v Speaker 2>should want it. Ain't gonna stop the other ones. But

523
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:52.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they won't hurt us.

524
00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:57.240
<v Speaker 6>I've always stopped that you might see one, but I

525
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.720
<v Speaker 6>think there's a least of what we'd see, especially an

526
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:01.200
<v Speaker 6>you worry.

527
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:04.960
<v Speaker 5>And maybe I'm crazy, but this is from a own observations.

528
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:08.599
<v Speaker 3>They're traveled, their groups are pretty and I've heard other

529
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:09.799
<v Speaker 3>people say.

530
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:11.759
<v Speaker 2>That I think they're probably as smart as we are.

531
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:16.319
<v Speaker 2>It's not smarter, and even possess an extra sense that

532
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:18.720
<v Speaker 2>we don't have a sixth sense. If we're gonna call

533
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:23.920
<v Speaker 2>it there, highly intelligent They've got their reasons making you know,

534
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.839
<v Speaker 2>these tree structures, these xes in the woods, and the

535
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.680
<v Speaker 2>different things that we find. They've got reasons for all

536
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.400
<v Speaker 2>of it. And I want to know. I want to know.

537
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:35.759
<v Speaker 5>Why that's the whole crowding thing.

538
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:39.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, is that somebody got some splaining to do.

539
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 2>I've seen the whole gambit there. I've seen stuff that

540
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>we're just fairly benign all the way up, things that

541
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:51.240
<v Speaker 2>horrified on a regular basis. Footprints, way any footprints. I'm

542
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>beyond convinced, way beyond convinced. There's no question in my hand. Now,

543
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:56.599
<v Speaker 2>I just want answers.

544
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:01.799
<v Speaker 5>You have several different and looks to try one.

545
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Animals.

546
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 7>Do you think of the ones you got are most

547
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:09.359
<v Speaker 7>sensitive to sus what being around? Is there anyone that's

548
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:14.079
<v Speaker 7>more sensitive one of the what's your observation as far

549
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:15.640
<v Speaker 7>as how they react?

550
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:21.839
<v Speaker 2>Dogs? My dogs highly sensitive. They either go there, it's

551
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 2>from one extreme to the other. Either they got their

552
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>hair up and they're growling and snarling, or they've tucked

553
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.839
<v Speaker 2>tail and wanting back in the house. Usually they tucktail

554
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:35.799
<v Speaker 2>when we smell the smell the outpacas. They're natural guard animals,

555
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, we've got the outpackas and we've got two goats.

556
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Often I'll find, you know, go out to check on

557
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:43.559
<v Speaker 2>them and find that the outpackas have took up set

558
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:46.119
<v Speaker 2>up basically a defensive parameter of the goats next to

559
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:49.359
<v Speaker 2>the fence behind them, and they're all alert. Their ears

560
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 2>are up and they make this noise and the alert

561
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.599
<v Speaker 2>and the alarm the cat. When I had cats outside,

562
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.319
<v Speaker 2>the slightest vocalization ever running hide, I brought my as.

563
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>They stay in now because two of them disappears. You know,

564
00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:08.039
<v Speaker 2>we've had dogs heard and chilled. The dogs are the

565
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:10.559
<v Speaker 2>ones that alert me. Pay attention to your dogs.

566
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:14.400
<v Speaker 4>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be

567
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:16.200
<v Speaker 4>right back after these messages.

568
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:23.720
<v Speaker 7>The ducks and the turkeys, do they have any particular

569
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.599
<v Speaker 7>reaction or they just carry on businesses.

570
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Now, if something's going on and there's any kind of

571
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 2>hubbub going on at nine, those two male turkeys will

572
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:37.400
<v Speaker 2>crank up and start with their stuff. And sometimes a restaurant.

573
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:39.480
<v Speaker 2>My reoster died. I don't have a resting one, but

574
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:42.680
<v Speaker 2>the roosters. If it's because things are going on out

575
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.000
<v Speaker 2>of the ordinary that we was having noises and I

576
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>was out there messing around doing whatever at such a

577
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:47.559
<v Speaker 2>late hour.

578
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:50.599
<v Speaker 7>I noticed when we were on the rich walk and

579
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 7>I could hear you turkeys some time to time. You

580
00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:57.400
<v Speaker 7>think that that may ever call them in when they.

581
00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.839
<v Speaker 5>Are out for woods of them out via.

582
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:03.440
<v Speaker 7>And they hear turkey gobble, You think that ever would

583
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:04.440
<v Speaker 7>bring in closer?

584
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you have falk of Well? I harkened back to

585
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the conversation you and I have, and my question was,

586
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.480
<v Speaker 2>this is in the first couple of years was basically

587
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I found three breaks, and then twenty fifteen is when

588
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>I started hearing three knocks vocalizations. And that was about

589
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:25.720
<v Speaker 2>the time that we moved Lockstock and maryl and brought

590
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.319
<v Speaker 2>animals with us. And you said, these new animals in

591
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.839
<v Speaker 2>the area has drawn their interest. They're curious about, especially

592
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:35.799
<v Speaker 2>our packs. In novels, you.

593
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:39.160
<v Speaker 6>Also rotate a lot of animals that you get in

594
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 6>that you and your wife require taking care of other animals.

595
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.519
<v Speaker 6>So every time y'all get a new animal, have you

596
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 6>ever given any though to a new voice in the

597
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 6>pasture from an animal and then suddenly spot to your

598
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:57.440
<v Speaker 6>moreizations or anything like that.

599
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Now, nothing seems to make it ab or.

600
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:05.400
<v Speaker 6>Flow so you would be comfortable saying that regardless of

601
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:10.519
<v Speaker 6>the rotation of style, there's just constant animal presence, so.

602
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Always, just always, there's just time regards constantly. From twenty

603
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:17.799
<v Speaker 2>fifteen until now, we've had.

604
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:20.759
<v Speaker 5>It ten year stint, so that's a long tracker.

605
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:24.799
<v Speaker 2>And it started, it peaked twenty seventeen, and since then

606
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:28.519
<v Speaker 2>it's stayed roughly at the same level. Right, Honestly, the

607
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.359
<v Speaker 2>one thing that I'm super afraid of is it stopping.

608
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:33.359
<v Speaker 2>Is them stopping?

609
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

610
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Leave the area that would devastated. Yeah.

611
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:42.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, twenty seventeen was a heavy area. Me and Bob

612
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:43.799
<v Speaker 5>that here.

613
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 7>Twenty seventeen there was a lot of activity in the

614
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 7>South Well Are for whatever reason. When I had twenty seventeen,

615
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:54.359
<v Speaker 7>that's when your neighbors, some of your neighbors had some issues.

616
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep. The night that the people on I I

617
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.759
<v Speaker 2>never talked to them neighbors about that. There was the

618
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:04.720
<v Speaker 2>incident across the holler from me where the people come

619
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.200
<v Speaker 2>out late at night because our other neighbor alerted us

620
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.160
<v Speaker 2>that they were hearing the woop whoops that's what she

621
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:12.039
<v Speaker 2>calls them, and I went outside to say it, I

622
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 2>heard it direction and I kind of, you know, just

623
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:18.359
<v Speaker 2>honed in on that direction and I hear a big

624
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:21.440
<v Speaker 2>diesel fire upon And it was when it was December,

625
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 2>so that you know, the foliage was the lit leaves

626
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:26.799
<v Speaker 2>were gone, and I can see the headlights from the distance.

627
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>But instead of backing up to leave, they pulled toward

628
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.680
<v Speaker 2>the woods and I hear shotgunsay them and they peeled

629
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:36.559
<v Speaker 2>out of there, and I didn't see them again for

630
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:40.839
<v Speaker 2>a year. Something happened one of my neighbors was cutting

631
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:43.599
<v Speaker 2>their grass for they were gone, and I don't know

632
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.119
<v Speaker 2>them and never had a chance to even try to

633
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 2>reach the subject with them, you know, for them to

634
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:50.440
<v Speaker 2>get to know me. I would love to know the

635
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:51.759
<v Speaker 2>answer to what happened that night.

636
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:55.599
<v Speaker 5>I think you'll find that one day totally interesting.

637
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:58.839
<v Speaker 2>I do have a question close to your area.

638
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.160
<v Speaker 5>There's the mystery preacher called Nobby.

639
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:08.760
<v Speaker 6>Okay, have you ever thought about any association but creatures

640
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:14.159
<v Speaker 6>that are closer to your barbers versus Knobby or you

641
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:17.960
<v Speaker 6>think they're related a Saint clan or Baby.

642
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Paul together. Well, I think the word Nobby. You know,

643
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:24.840
<v Speaker 2>most people don't know. They think, well, there's one of

644
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Speaker 2>these creatures, but Nobby has become the generic term for

645
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.320
<v Speaker 2>big flood. Right, it got tagged to the name Nobby.

646
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.920
<v Speaker 2>You know it's seventy nine. A reporter, I want to say,

647
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Charlotte Observer, who did a lot of work covering this stuff,

648
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:43.679
<v Speaker 2>gave it the nickname Nobby after Carpenter's knob, and it's stuck.

649
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.239
<v Speaker 2>There was previous names for it. The old timers called

650
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.719
<v Speaker 2>fossey mote. I still have no idea where that term

651
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.800
<v Speaker 2>came from, but the old timers used this, and of

652
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:56.400
<v Speaker 2>course boogers and wampless anything unknown in the woods as

653
00:34:56.400 --> 00:35:01.079
<v Speaker 2>a wamples, a wampus cabin, any thing where it could

654
00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:03.840
<v Speaker 2>be a nine ft bigfoot or a black panther, but

655
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.480
<v Speaker 2>if it's unknown, it's a lumpus or a booger. But

656
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>the name not be stuck there in the late seventies.

657
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I think that there are some of them that migrate

658
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.400
<v Speaker 2>when it's hot for whatever reason. I believe some of

659
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:19.679
<v Speaker 2>them follow Ward Street goes back on up into the

660
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 2>South Mountains, which, as the crow flies, the border of

661
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:25.320
<v Speaker 2>the South Mountains and five and a half miles from

662
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:28.480
<v Speaker 2>me gets hot. Some of them go up in elevation,

663
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.639
<v Speaker 2>and some of them don't. Some stay because although it

664
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 2>dies now during the summer as far as the frequency

665
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.480
<v Speaker 2>of stuff happening, and some of them leap and then

666
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>when it gets cold, cold weather, that's when it peaks.

667
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.800
<v Speaker 6>So in your area, you would say in winter time

668
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:50.159
<v Speaker 6>nuts are aghost act. Yeah, okay, we've seen that change

669
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:54.280
<v Speaker 6>at different spots that we researched. That some of the

670
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:59.719
<v Speaker 6>more prevalent in the spring and fall, some are even.

671
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:00.400
<v Speaker 5>In summer time.

672
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.239
<v Speaker 6>So it's good to know that your area, you think

673
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 6>it is winter months that definitely bring them out, bake

674
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:08.880
<v Speaker 6>them become more.

675
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I had an old timer tell me it was a

676
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.119
<v Speaker 2>matter of fact. The first old timer that really opened

677
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 2>up to me. He said that Wards Creek, So if

678
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:20.840
<v Speaker 2>you want to see one, you're gonna want to go

679
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:23.960
<v Speaker 2>down along Wards Creek between here and Wards Gap. Oh,

680
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:27.519
<v Speaker 2>they go back and forth. And this fellow lived not

681
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 2>too far from Wards Creek on north of kaser I

682
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.800
<v Speaker 2>think that when it's hot, I think the older ones

683
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.480
<v Speaker 2>go back to the higher elevation because as we get older,

684
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.119
<v Speaker 2>we don't handle heat as well. I think the younger

685
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 2>ones stay night. Why they stay back and stay there.

686
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:47.199
<v Speaker 2>It's a rich honey ground for deer, coon possum. You know,

687
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:50.039
<v Speaker 2>we have a large amount of deer in that area.

688
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:52.920
<v Speaker 6>It sounds like the four of us have a destiny

689
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:56.519
<v Speaker 6>with words Creek yep in our immediate future.

690
00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:59.840
<v Speaker 2>The first foot prints ever found was on Wards Creek.

691
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 2>The most footprints that I found on the Wold Street. Yeah.

692
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.119
<v Speaker 2>At the time I believed the old timer when he

693
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:08.239
<v Speaker 2>told me that, I didn't doubt him a bit. But

694
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:12.039
<v Speaker 2>hearing somebody say and then finding evidence that it's true, Yeah,

695
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:14.679
<v Speaker 2>many a slip TwixT a cup and a lip. I

696
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:18.119
<v Speaker 2>did a podcast with pair of Reality Radio last Sunday,

697
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:20.360
<v Speaker 2>and the conversation flowed in such a manner that it

698
00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:22.800
<v Speaker 2>brought me to a conclusion. And it was kind of

699
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>one of these things that like the Bolt out of

700
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:28.679
<v Speaker 2>the Blue an epiphantal. He said, watch the best evidence

701
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>that you've personally. I thought about it in a minute,

702
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and I said, it's the totality of the body of everything.

703
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:39.719
<v Speaker 2>In this business. You find puzzle pieces. Next thing you know,

704
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:41.639
<v Speaker 2>you have one puzzle piece, but then you've got a

705
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:45.320
<v Speaker 2>table full of puzzle pieces, and they all supplement one

706
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:52.039
<v Speaker 2>another and corroborate one another. Eyewitness testimonies, footprints, videos, personal experiences,

707
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.480
<v Speaker 2>you know it's the whole body. This last video that

708
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:59.599
<v Speaker 2>I got is compelling. I still remaining skeptical on old

709
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:01.920
<v Speaker 2>y'allish study. The only reason I hadn't sent it is

710
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:05.599
<v Speaker 2>because I've been in a whirlwind. But you guys take

711
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:07.920
<v Speaker 2>a look at it, and it's probably the best evidence.

712
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.840
<v Speaker 2>And I've gotten so far. I think it's the old Saskatch.

713
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:13.400
<v Speaker 2>But that night I want to check on my animals.

714
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll have to look on the video to see what

715
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:19.800
<v Speaker 2>the date was. But they were all gathered against the

716
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.599
<v Speaker 2>eastern side of the fence. If you're standing up and

717
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 2>barn on the left, to your left is the east

718
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:28.679
<v Speaker 2>all the way up against the fence. The two goats

719
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:31.199
<v Speaker 2>were touching the fence and at the time I had

720
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:33.360
<v Speaker 2>four our packs. One a cents died and they were

721
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:40.320
<v Speaker 2>in that guard formation ears up and I smelled a

722
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:43.679
<v Speaker 2>little bit of the smell. But something that was one

723
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:46.400
<v Speaker 2>of them times when something was making the hair on

724
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.960
<v Speaker 2>my next sting, that one always happening, and I thought, well,

725
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.320
<v Speaker 2>the only thing I can do is I got my

726
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:56.280
<v Speaker 2>spot got my spotlight and my phone started spotlight and

727
00:38:56.559 --> 00:39:00.760
<v Speaker 2>over to the right over there in that riding ring,

728
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:04.199
<v Speaker 2>that's just to the west of my fence, within my

729
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:07.079
<v Speaker 2>neighbor's passion. I caught movement for a week second and

730
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.320
<v Speaker 2>I turned my phone on and I actually used it

731
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:12.320
<v Speaker 2>like you would use a set of binocilars. Actually it

732
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:15.440
<v Speaker 2>was my spotlight was in my left hand, my phone

733
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:17.679
<v Speaker 2>was in the right hand, and I was getting excited.

734
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:20.559
<v Speaker 2>I caught movement again. I cutn't zero in on it,

735
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.480
<v Speaker 2>and I cut the video off, and I was going

736
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.239
<v Speaker 2>to start just pressing down the shutter button and start

737
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:31.880
<v Speaker 2>snapping pictures. And I shut the video off, and I

738
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.000
<v Speaker 2>pulled up the video and was just going to look

739
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:39.599
<v Speaker 2>for a minute, and I thought I wanted to delete it.

740
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:43.199
<v Speaker 2>That's a bunch of memory I did. And the pictures

741
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.559
<v Speaker 2>that I took nothing, I didn't get anything. But when

742
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I went back the last fifteen seconds or so down

743
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:53.480
<v Speaker 2>south of that riding ring on the lower ground, you'll

744
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.880
<v Speaker 2>see it. It was something extremely tall those fence post

745
00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.159
<v Speaker 2>with that riding ring of six and a half foot

746
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:04.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe clearly taller than those fence posts. And it was

747
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.639
<v Speaker 2>on a lower elevation, probably a two foot differential. But

748
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.119
<v Speaker 2>it's still yet showing. And you know, some play comes

749
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:11.679
<v Speaker 2>in on the angle and everything. I was up on

750
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:14.360
<v Speaker 2>higher ground, but still it was clearly taller than those

751
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.639
<v Speaker 2>fence post white. I wasn't using my phone, it was

752
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:20.480
<v Speaker 2>just my phone camera and no night vision. Note but

753
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 2>it's either white or gray, and you all look at

754
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:26.280
<v Speaker 2>it and you tell me what you think I was looking.

755
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I was actually focusing on the inside of the writing ring.

756
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:32.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's we're not supposed to have, but you know,

757
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:34.920
<v Speaker 2>we got that deer. There was something going in there.

758
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.519
<v Speaker 2>You a deer, one with three legs, and that's where

759
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I was focusing with the spotlight. And I had one

760
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:47.239
<v Speaker 2>of those experiences where it was I was just almost freaking.

761
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.719
<v Speaker 2>It was in a normally freak out or panic or anything,

762
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.400
<v Speaker 2>but I was just I don't know, it was strange.

763
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:58.239
<v Speaker 2>And then when I looked at the video and very

764
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I even said, I thought I seen something that whatever

765
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:04.239
<v Speaker 2>it is, I can't and it was there. It was

766
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:08.559
<v Speaker 2>there its own video. So you guys break that down.

767
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>J Man.

768
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:12.440
<v Speaker 5>We appreciate you sitting down and sharing with those.

769
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:16.559
<v Speaker 2>We appreciate it. Thank y'all arelike family. I appreciate y'all

770
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 2>more than you know.
