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see the movie and then I come up with something

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short and pithy or clever or however I'm feeling inspired,

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and then I lead into the name of the movie,

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and then I say the intro. But again, I have

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not seen the movie yet, but I'm traveling. But I

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wanted to make sure that I had an introduction for

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this episode. So enjoy the episode. We'll see what I

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thought about the movie in a couple of seconds. This

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is The Sheep Detectives. I'm Ronald Young Junior, and I'm

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leaving the theater.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: This is Ronald and I am leaving the theater after

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seeing The Sheep Detectives. The Sheep Detectives written by Craig Mason,

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directed by Kyle Balda, starring Hugh Jackman, Nicholas Brown, Nicholas

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gallat Zine, Molly Gordon, Hong Chow, Emma Thompson, Julia, Louis Dryfiss,

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Brian Cranston, Chris O'Dowd, and Regina Hall per usual. For

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complete listing of the cast and crew, you could go

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to the linked in our show notes. I would strongly

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encourage you to do that for this film because there

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is a large voice cast as well as in person cast,

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and I did not include everyone, so you can go

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look at that at the link in our show notes.

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Speaker 2: I am not here alone.

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Speaker 3: I am here with Michael Paris Davis.

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Speaker 1: Michael Paris Davis. All right, The Sheep Detectives. This is

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a film about a shepherd played by Hugh Jackman, who

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is made. If you've seen the trailer, you know that.

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Then the sheep have to set about the journey of

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solving the mystery. He is a good shepherd, He is

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kind to a sheep. He reads them a lot of

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murder mystery novels, so they are apt to solve the crime. Specifically,

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one sheep, Lily, who I believe is played by Julia

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Louis Dreyfus, who is setting about finding out why this

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poor shepherd was murdered and unfolds in a town I

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believe it's called Denbury, Denberry something like that.

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Speaker 3: The town is called Denbrook.

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Speaker 1: Denbrook, Yes, Denbrook. It is set in the town of Denbrook.

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That is where we find all the players who find

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out about the murder. All right, enough of that, Michael

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Paris Davis, what did you think of this film?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, going into it, I thought it was going to

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be incredibly cheesy, but for a detective film, it was

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actually a great film. I had a great time. I laughed,

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I cried, and I got really mad.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I think that in terms of.

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Speaker 1: What to expect from this film, I think you're expecting

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a stupid film about sheep solving a crime.

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Speaker 2: But what it gives you is a top tier I'm.

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Speaker 1: Talking Knives Out, I'm talking Poiro whatever that those movies

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are now called. They have three different ones that came

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out that are all starring that Kenneth Branna and them.

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Those ones, y'all know what I'm talking about. A Murder

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on the Nile and the Orient, Murder on the Orience Press,

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all of those. It is giving the best version of

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those mystery films. You just have to if you saw

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this and said not for me, but you are a

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person that watches British detective films and reads British detective books,

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this is firmly in that category and it does it

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very very well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I fully agree. This is I didn't want to like

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it because it was It's an Amazon Studios film, and I.

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Speaker 1: Was like, shout out to Daryl Murphy, you know who

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you are.

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Speaker 2: That's our project.

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Speaker 1: Hill Mary correspondent who definitely went on about a four

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minute rant about that movie being an Amazon original.

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Speaker 2: Michael Paris Davis tagging in.

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Speaker 3: For Daryl Murphy, this one won't be as long. I

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didn't want to like it, and I thought that the

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sheep Ai was going animation was going to be bad

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believable from beginning to end. Characters I immediately was on

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board with. And there was not a second that went

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by in the film that they didn't grip me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it grabbed you. It grabs you from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: It makes you take it seriously from the beginning because

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they start off by making it. Especially everyone who's a millennial,

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you have seen a movie made in the nineties with

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a very sweet score in which they are endearing you

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to whoever the animals are in the film, whether it

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be Homeward Bound or pick another Beethoven, pick another movie

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with animals in it. There's that little bright piano and

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strings happening that's making you love what's happening. They start

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the actual mystery elements of it that make it more

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Speaker 2: Actual It draws you in. It hooks you.

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Speaker 1: That's the hook. So it draws you in with the

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something very sweet, and then it hooked you. Now I

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will say to the CGI, wow, it was very good

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when the sheep were by themselves or with other sheep.

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the sheep, I remember being like, oh, those aren't real sheep.

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just you could you could see it.

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Speaker 3: You could see that he scooped up air and not

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was talking about.

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immediately hooked into it being an animal film. But then

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it comes from underneath and is like, actually, this is

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a very well structured detective movie. And they from beginning

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to end, I didn't know what was going to happen.

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to happen here, this is the next step. But me

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the perfect audience member because I suspend my disbelief like

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nobody's nobody's business. I that's true, had no idea what

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Speaker 1: This film does a very good job of making you

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forget suspects just enough for you to The movie leads

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you just a little bit like a sheep. But then

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by the time they get to oh, and this is

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who the suspect is, I did.

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Speaker 2: Not see that coming. I did not suspect that person

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Speaker 1: Said out loud, oh, so the film got you.

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Speaker 1: I mean. I think to me, a good mystery is

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one that it allows you to think certain things, but

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doesn't quite allow you to think other things.

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Speaker 1: Never I felt dumb in the sense of oh, I

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wouldn't have even thought of that. Maybe I'm just not

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because I was about to just start talking write about

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who the killer was. Yeah, I felt that right at

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the beginning though you know that the piece of evidence

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is important, but you don't. We can't. We couldn't figure

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it out. We absolutely there was pieces of evidence that

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unable to figure it out at the pace of the movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good.

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Speaker 1: It was good sleight of hand, good story to tell, and

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I thought it was well paced in a way where

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again you're led a little bit, so there's gonna be

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and the movie doesn't mind you coming to a conclusion

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on some of that. But even if you went from

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one of the stories that he's reading to the sheep,

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Lily turns around and says, no, it's not the maid

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because this other thing happened and that's why, and sure

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enough she's vindicated there. But that's exactly what happens in

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the movie later where they said, well, we want you

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to think it's this person, but it's absolutely not this person, which.

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Speaker 3: Makes it seem like it's a children's movie at the beginning,

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but then we got got to and we follow the

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narrative and we fall in love with the characters too,

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like even our main detective of the movie. Like at

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the beginning, I was like, Wow, these are silly character constructs,

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and then along the way totally built up. I'm one

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hundred percent loyal to the characters.

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Speaker 1: I think part of that is that the voice acting

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cast is amazing. You're working with Julia Louis Dryfish, You're

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working with Brian Kranston, voices that we trusted. I did

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not identify in the film until after I read them later,

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very believable, and I realized why at one point, I'm like, oh,

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that's Regina Hall. That'sh I figured out in the middle

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of the movie and I knew she was in it,

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but I'd forgotten and I heard her voice. So I

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Speaker 2: Now, all of that being said here, at.

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Speaker 1: Leaving the theater, we rate movies out of five stars,

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all right, so one being terrible. I never this is garbage.

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see it again. Of course you got your twos and fours,

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four being a great movie. A lot of Oscar bait

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films live there, and so I'm curious for you, where

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does this movie land one to five stars?

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Speaker 2: What rating do you give this film? And why?

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Speaker 3: Oh? No, okay, so he means that it's rewatchable. I

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don't know that I would rewatch this film. Wow, I

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enjoyed it, but it takes a lot for me to

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rewatch a movie. So on your official scale, I'm going

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to say two point nine to five, just under rewatchable.

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Speaker 2: Do you rewatch movies every once in a while, so

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you don't rewatch movies? No, So three is not a good.

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has to be something else, all right. To say that

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three is the average number, you're saying that this movie

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is below average for you.

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Speaker 3: No, it was above average. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh I liked that, okay, versus four?

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Speaker 3: I loved that three point eight?

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Speaker 1: Actually knowing you, I feel like that one fits. I'm

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going to give this film a four point one five. Yes,

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this is a great movie. I'd say. The only drawback

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that keeps this from me in a four p two

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five or four point five zero is there was no

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reason for me to be in a theater watching this film. Amazon,

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you have put this movie in the theater. Yes, it

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has a theater window. Great, people are gonna go see it.

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Maybe you'll make some money. That's fine, But I there's

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no need for me to be in the theater watching

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this film. I just felt like there were several times

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in which this type of movie, this type of mystery

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movie that doesn't have big set pieces or anything like that,

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there's no reason for me to drive to a theater,

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get out of my car, go inside, unless you're in

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Arizona and you just want to get out of the heat,

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which we are, and that's fine. But that being said,

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like that's the only reason why you'd really need to

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be out of the heat watching this movie inside and

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air conditioning. But if you have air conditioning in your house,

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you could just be watching this on the couch. And

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four point seven.

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Speaker 3: Really, who who is the target audience for this movie?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea because it doesn't feel like a

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Speaker 3: It doesn't. It feels like it was for us, It feels.

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Speaker 2: Like it was for MILLENNI.

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Speaker 1: It slips in I would say in the sophisticated circle

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that Pixar normally operates in making a film that is

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so good that parents want to watch it and dumb

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enough that kids will miss the parts about it that

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you know. But I'd say it's slightly elevated in that

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kid elements there except for the fact that the sheep are.

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Speaker 3: Talking yeah okay. That you can bring your kid to

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Speaker 1: Absolutely can, Like this is a family film. You can

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bring a whole family to the movie. But if you're

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a family that like I remember, I was thinking, my

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mother would love this film, My sister would love this film.

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Speaker 2: My dad would be engaged enough.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he would love it, but he'd

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be engaged enough to finish it and be like, man,

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those sheep were crazy, So there's plenty of like.

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Speaker 2: It marks a lot of quadrants. Curtis would like this film.

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Speaker 1: Curtis my action movie loving friend that always surprises me

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with a pick out of left feel Well.

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Speaker 2: It would be like, oh I liked this. I'm like,

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I didn't expect that from you. Curtis. I think he

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would like this film. If he was like, oh, all

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we got to see one movie.

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Speaker 1: I got to bring my child Evelyn and my wife

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Jen to this film, he would like this.

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Speaker 2: Marcus would not. Marcus would be like stupid she was talking.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like there's ways in which it hits

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all four quadrants and also misses on all fours.

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Speaker 3: I was about to ask you to list all of

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your friends and whether or not they would like this movie.

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Speaker 2: I could.

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Speaker 1: I can go through each one of them, Maryland, Yes, Caroline,

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and John. Caroline would be like it was cute, but

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a little stupid. John would be like, what are we

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talking about here? Just start going now the list. Nor

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would be like okay, and then Nora's husband John would

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be like, I mean, he'd make a lot of dad

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jokes about lamb and sheep. So I'm not even go

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through all my friends, because I'm getting trouble for people

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I didn't mention. Tyra would not watch this. Jama would

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not watch this. He would be like, why am I

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at the movies? I could be doing something more important. Yeay,

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I could go down through a list of people I don't,

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but the point is for the most general people who

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like movies, and specifically millennials who British detective film, this

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Speaker 3: I was about to say ten out of ten, but

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it's three point eight out of five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, just multiply three point eight

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times two and you get the number that is actually

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out of ten. So with that, Leaving the Theater is

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a production of Owitz Big Round Studios. I mixed this episode,

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and per usual, I'm out here working hard. I'm currently

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in Arizona and I'm still working. I did actual work

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this week that was not related to Owits Big Round Studios.

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Speaker 2: Some of my other production work that I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm actively working on a pilot that I'm set to

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release on Patreon as.

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Speaker 2: Soon as I get it finished.

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Speaker 1: It is a video and audio project, but it's coming

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I'm out here doing hard work. This is a labor

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of love, but it is still labor. If that means

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something to you, go to patrio on dot com slash

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Speaker 2: The link in our show notes.

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Speaker 1: Show art from Heather Wilder, theme music by the mysterious

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Breakmaster Cellinder. For more information about the Sheep detectives, check

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ODS Big Ron Studios. Leaving the theater will be back soon.

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Thanks for listening and thanks for being on the show.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely anytime I could sent it to this what.

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Speaker 1: I'm Ronald Young Junior and I'm not as smart as

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I think I am.

