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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, Hey guys, and welcome to episode fifteen of

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<v Speaker 1>A Strange Thing podcast. I'm Mike fifteen, I'm Austin and

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<v Speaker 1>together we are the host. What's the most What's it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a while, Yes, it has been a while since

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<v Speaker 1>we've had a recording time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been weird, strange things going on with COVID, just

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of stuff, but earthquakes, armaged cats and dogs

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<v Speaker 2>living together, master hysteria. Yeah, it's been weird. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody in the world right now is experiencing

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<v Speaker 2>some weird things. Oh yeah, but we're together tonight. We

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<v Speaker 2>get to hang out, We get a record some stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and talk about our new topic, which is which is

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<v Speaker 2>what pretty rock and roll?

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<v Speaker 1>If you ask me, strange rocks. Strange rocks. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's cooler than it sounds. I think it is cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And we got to go out in the Investigation Night

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<v Speaker 2>TV Investigation Destination vehicle and we went out and we

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<v Speaker 2>explored a strange rock, well several strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Rocks, went on a little hike kind of walk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, saw a rattlesnake. If you go online, we have

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<v Speaker 2>a video of the rattlesnake.

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<v Speaker 1>And Dad did a pretty epic rattlesnake kick jump. Yeah, yeah, dance.

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<v Speaker 2>I can still jump pretty high.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you can. I bet your ankle's heard after that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think adrenaline a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little groin pole. But other than that, I was fine.

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<v Speaker 1>That those darn keys that sound like rattlesnakes in their pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So we saw a rattlesnake and then I was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of hyper paranoid, on extra high alert because I

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<v Speaker 2>got stepped on the rattlesnake and I'm walking and I

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<v Speaker 2>had some keys that were jingling in my pocket, but

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<v Speaker 2>they were half muted, so they sounded somewhat like a rattle,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I it just sounded like it was coming

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<v Speaker 2>right down below me because it was. It was in

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<v Speaker 2>my pants pockets.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did super kick flying jump leap.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing how how you can jump when your adrenaline

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<v Speaker 2>kicks in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like those lemurs that kind of jump sideways and

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<v Speaker 1>they like kicked their leg out and like scoot. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to get the leg.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of there biting me. Yeah, yeah, get away your.

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<v Speaker 1>Awkward, very move gonnage a snake.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, regardless of what you say, in my mind, it

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<v Speaker 2>looked really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Look cool.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, Yeah, we went out to a local place here.

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<v Speaker 2>It was about what fifty miles away, forty five miles away,

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<v Speaker 2>a place called map Rock, And it was a good

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<v Speaker 2>place to start because it is something very unique and

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<v Speaker 2>who would have thought that it is right here close

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<v Speaker 2>by in western Idoh, it's very very off Snake River Plains,

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<v Speaker 2>which just happens to be one of the most prolific

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<v Speaker 2>areas of petroglyphs in the entire west, only eclipse probably

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<v Speaker 2>by southwest, like in Utah and Arizona in New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, but anyway, Yeah, so we.

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<v Speaker 2>Started out on this journey and we have a destination

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<v Speaker 2>in mind, but we are going to take that journey

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<v Speaker 2>one step at a time. So the first stop on

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<v Speaker 2>our journey is petroglyphs, and there happened to be one

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<v Speaker 2>right here close by.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotten the rattle can. Yes, it's more like a

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<v Speaker 1>rattle tub.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a box van.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like an Ammo can that can drive around and

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<v Speaker 1>it's loud.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and right now it's pretty much empty. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of equipment in there, but not much.

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<v Speaker 1>So we rattled our way down there, got down.

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<v Speaker 2>To the river. Yep, did good?

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<v Speaker 1>Did good?

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<v Speaker 2>You found it right away?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, pulled up. There's some dew and his kid fishing

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<v Speaker 1>right on the river.

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<v Speaker 2>Which was maybe thirty yards away from.

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<v Speaker 1>The rock, the map rock, and we climbed on it.

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<v Speaker 2>We climbed on it. We took pictures of it, which

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<v Speaker 2>is on our website if you'd like to check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe we should back up a little bit and

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<v Speaker 2>start with the base question. Okay, what are petroglyphs? They

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<v Speaker 2>are rocks, but you can kind of break them down, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the word.

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<v Speaker 1>Petra, glyph, petra the band.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I you know from my biblical upbringing a petra

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<v Speaker 2>petros Peter rock, Peter is rock. So I mean I'm

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<v Speaker 2>guessing that right. Glyph. I don't know if glyph means

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe glyph means marking or engraving or etching, glyph petra,

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<v Speaker 2>so it would be a rock etching. I know, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, let's do gly graphic. Now, see that's a pictograph.

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<v Speaker 2>That's different. That's a that would be a pictograph, would

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<v Speaker 2>be a painting. Like using the media.

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<v Speaker 1>I went, I tried to make a leap.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that was good, but wrong. No, I mean they're

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<v Speaker 2>connected because they were mediums that ancient Indian tribes used

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<v Speaker 2>to use. I say ancient, not even that ancient.

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<v Speaker 1>Native American native person, right, native person. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the correct terminology is. And I feel like we're

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<v Speaker 1>in a climate.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta be careful socially.

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<v Speaker 1>That really makes everybody's.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a lot you know, they're kind of on edge

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<v Speaker 2>about this. So if we're if we're making mistakes culturally,

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<v Speaker 2>if we're not being politically correct, we're not doing it intentionally.

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<v Speaker 2>It's our own ignorance, but please forgive us in advance, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so, yeah, there's pictographs and petroglyphs. Pictographs would

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<v Speaker 2>be paintings like maybe American Indians or Native Americans did

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<v Speaker 2>on like maybe leather, you know, like Buffalo, okay. Or

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<v Speaker 2>they could paint them on cave walls. And there's some

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<v Speaker 2>really good examples of that, like in France and Lascow

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<v Speaker 2>some of the most ancient cave paintings in the world

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<v Speaker 2>are there. They found a new one. Gosh, where was

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<v Speaker 2>that at It's in Australia And what's really weird about that?

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to get into this later on. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's a preview. But they were like erotic paintings featuring

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<v Speaker 2>giant creatures from outer space having sex with women. Wow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a story there rocket that if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>look up, you know, I think it's in Genesis chapter six.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that that's one to talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm never hold in the land of Australia for

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<v Speaker 1>the alligators, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Crocodiles, so that the women were beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Asian buffalo roam the land.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, yeah, we're really going way way off. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's test my theory. I got a Google here

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to ask Google, Hey, what nice I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell this.

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<v Speaker 3>According to Wikipedia, a petroglyph is an image created by

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<v Speaker 3>removing part of a rock surface by sizing, picking, carving,

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<v Speaker 3>or a braiding as a form of rock art. Outside

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<v Speaker 3>North America, scholars often use terms such as carving or

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<v Speaker 3>other descriptions of the technique to refer to such images.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so creepy.

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<v Speaker 2>How did she know? I don't know that she was

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<v Speaker 2>listening to talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>You said sex with giants? She was listening. They know

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<v Speaker 1>that we know that was really it was kind of creepy.

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<v Speaker 1>I gather petroglyph would be removing. Glyph means you remove

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<v Speaker 1>the material, and graph means you add material.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's ask her one more time. How did I ask

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<v Speaker 2>that question?

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<v Speaker 1>What question?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know? How did the word petroglyph originate?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ask her what the origination is?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>What are the root words that make the word petro glyph?

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<v Speaker 3>The word comes from the Greek petro, from petro meaning

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<v Speaker 3>stone and carve, and was originally coined in French as.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so yeah, I was right? So yeah, petra like

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<v Speaker 2>little little Petra, little stone, Peter and big stone. Yeah no,

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember that from my Bible days. From now on,

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<v Speaker 2>you will be called Peter. Right, and upon this rock

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<v Speaker 2>I would build my church. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. See

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<v Speaker 2>I got a rain.

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<v Speaker 5>Like a like a sieve because it just a lot

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<v Speaker 5>goes in and a lot goes out and some things stick,

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<v Speaker 5>but not very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, the rock sink didn't get out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we got petroglyph, which they're everywhere, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's probably heard about him or seen him, but the

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<v Speaker 2>one here in Idaho. And that's what we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>basically launch this whole investigation on because it's so close

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<v Speaker 2>and it'll take us to where we need to go

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<v Speaker 2>for our next topic. So petroglyphs in southern Idaho are numerous.

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<v Speaker 2>There are thousands of them. They are up and down

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<v Speaker 2>the entire Snake River plane and they were like ancient

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<v Speaker 2>highways for the indigenous people that were here, and they

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<v Speaker 2>would leave messages and stuff on these rocks. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if anybody really has a really good idea

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<v Speaker 2>of what these markings were for. There's a lot of theories.

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<v Speaker 2>Got any ideas, any guesses and what the reasons were.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know, like because I grew up around the

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<v Speaker 1>Snake River, my whole wife canoeing and swimming and mike

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<v Speaker 1>riding and hiking and all that stuff, Like it is

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<v Speaker 1>real fertile all along the Snake River. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of volcanic rock and stuff. And outside

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<v Speaker 1>of that, it's like this green valley to go through

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<v Speaker 1>the desert, a lot of sedimentary soil and that was

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<v Speaker 1>very volcanic in nature, that was ground up into a

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<v Speaker 1>really fine pulp.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why there's so many farms and potatoes potatoes here night.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So there's that and then the animals, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>took Beckham and I got within four or five feet

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<v Speaker 1>of a deer that came clumping out of the river

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<v Speaker 1>soaking wet.

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<v Speaker 2>So I saw a couple of deer down there when

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<v Speaker 2>we were looking at Map Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>We did, and they were in the water on the

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<v Speaker 1>little island bank kind of so I think they're probably

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<v Speaker 1>marking out like food or maybe like boundary lines, like hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you get this side of the river, we'll get this side.

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<v Speaker 1>They were just trying to make defined lines work.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I've been doing a lot of reading on this,

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<v Speaker 2>and so much so that it kind of all turns

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<v Speaker 2>into a giant pile of goop in my brain. But

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<v Speaker 2>the way that map Rock got its name was some

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<v Speaker 2>guy I think his name was Robert Limbert in like

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty two, who was from the Smithsonian, and he

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<v Speaker 2>came out and he saw this rock, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>huge rock, as big as a car, and on the

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<v Speaker 2>one surface that points towards the river, there was these

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<v Speaker 2>inscriptions that looked very map like, and so he called

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<v Speaker 2>it map Rock. Well, time goes forward, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people have seen this thing, and a guy decides, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to use Google Earth and write a book,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to see if I can't make this

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<v Speaker 2>line up with you know, the actual river flows and

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<v Speaker 2>locations that you would find on Google Earth. And so

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<v Speaker 2>he did and a lot of them lined up. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I've got an illustration from his book, which is

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<v Speaker 2>called The Map Rock of Idaho Decoded. Yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 2>author's name is Don I want to say Zulky or Zulky,

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<v Speaker 2>Zulky or zulk There's this really cool chart in there

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<v Speaker 2>that seems to line up. Well, here's the thing. There's

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<v Speaker 2>could be as old as ten thousand years old. WHOA,

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<v Speaker 2>that is frickin' old. Most Yeah, most petroglyphs here and

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<v Speaker 2>in the Southwest are you know. They would range from

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere from you know, three hundred all the way back

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<v Speaker 2>be like really, really really old. If it's true, it

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<v Speaker 2>would be the oldest map in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So people debate this. But it was weird because we

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<v Speaker 2>top of it, we took pictures because there are petri

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<v Speaker 2>glyft engravings on the top, on the sides.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of all around on the front, and so we

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it's strange to think about that ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand years ago there might have been some indigenous person

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<v Speaker 2>a hammer and whacking away on it and describing something right,

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<v Speaker 2>would they be so accurate as to know the locations

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<v Speaker 2>of all these places that you can see now on

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<v Speaker 2>Google Earth. But it's weird. I mean, you think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>We were standing on some place where somehow somebody had

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<v Speaker 2>were being made like that, and inscribed it on a

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<v Speaker 2>rock by a small town in Melba where they're known

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<v Speaker 2>for grown potatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>M you've got to wonder what the other like people

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<v Speaker 1>in that culture. We're thinking of the guy over there

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<v Speaker 1>smacking a rock, like, there's man who chisels rock.

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<v Speaker 4>What's he doing?

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<v Speaker 2>He's crazy doing well?

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<v Speaker 1>Giving him a hard time?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we can talk about how old that is. So

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<v Speaker 2>another fascinating tidbit, which we'll probably talk about a later time.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I know we will because we're gonna hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>get to go there, is that the oldest petroglyphs in

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<v Speaker 2>North America are in a small location outside of Winnemucca, Nevada, Winnemacca, Winnemaca,

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<v Speaker 2>and those they think could be anywhere from twelve to

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen fifteen thousand years old. If that's the case, they

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<v Speaker 2>are the oldest petroglyphs that we know of in the Americas.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>That is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't we I don't know, it's kind of off topic,

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<v Speaker 1>but didn't they just find like some of the oldest

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<v Speaker 1>remains carbon dated wise ever in like oh, like Idaho.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like Pontana or something. I can't remember anything

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<v Speaker 2>about it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was weird. It is And then we

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<v Speaker 1>got these old petroglyphs and this old map, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Old map rock in the middle of nowhere, but truth

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<v Speaker 2>be told, around this area are tons of petroglyphs, right

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<v Speaker 2>and we saw quite a few of them. We went

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<v Speaker 2>to Map Rock and we hiked around a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>trying to find more up in the rock fields that

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<v Speaker 2>were up above it. Didn't see any. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>drove down the road a little bit and saw big

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<v Speaker 2>up there. That's where we saw the rattlesnake, and there

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<v Speaker 2>was a bunch of petroglyphs up there. And then there

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's Celebration Point, which is outside of Melbourn, Idaho.

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<v Speaker 2>There are tons of petroglyphs there. You go further down

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<v Speaker 2>the snake towards Swan Falls, there's all kinds of petroglyphs.

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<v Speaker 2>You followed the snake up, you get up around Goodie

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<v Speaker 2>and Idaho and that there are a bunch of petroc

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<v Speaker 2>glyphs up there. I mean literally thousands, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them have the same kind of symbols, you know

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<v Speaker 2>how you see like a train car and it's got

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<v Speaker 2>spray painting on it, like they've been tagged by people.

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<v Speaker 1>With the graffiti, I think we call those criminals.

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<v Speaker 2>But they have a look and you can tell different

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of gangs and stuff by the style of their graffiti.

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<v Speaker 2>And in a way, I kind of almost see these

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<v Speaker 2>petroglyphs as like ancient not graffiti, because I think they

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<v Speaker 2>were more purposeful. But they have earmarks that make them

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<v Speaker 2>look the same. So you go down further south, say

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<v Speaker 2>you go down like the Four Corners region in New

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico and Arizona, and you look at those and those

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<v Speaker 2>are a little stylistically different, and I don't know, the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing to me is just really fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing about matt Rock is that they believe that

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<v Speaker 2>it's that it was created by the ancestors of the

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<v Speaker 2>show Shone tribe that frequented the Snake River plain, along

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<v Speaker 2>with maybe the Bannock Indian tribes that go further towards

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<v Speaker 2>the east up around Pocatello, Idaho, and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of petroglyphs in there. When we went to Four Corners

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<v Speaker 2>and did a little things through you know, southern Utah,

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<v Speaker 2>Zion and Bryce Canyon and all that. At Four Corners,

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<v Speaker 2>they had this, like it was several different Indian tribes.

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<v Speaker 2>They had like a flea market kind of thing, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I went and you could buy all kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>trinkets and.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff shop kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the things that kind of fascinated me

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<v Speaker 2>was a young man who was chiseling away at some

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<v Speaker 2>rack and he was making these little petroglyphs nice and

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<v Speaker 2>so I got talking to him, and the petroglyphs that

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<v Speaker 2>he was making were patterned after actual petroglyphs that he

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<v Speaker 2>had found in that area, and he had pictures of

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<v Speaker 2>all of them, and so I've got I bought one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it probably spent way too much money,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like a little humanoid kind of figure but

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<v Speaker 2>looks like an alien, and in fact, they call it

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<v Speaker 2>the alien petro. So we'll get into that stuff a

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<v Speaker 2>little later. But there's a bunch of stuff around aliens,

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<v Speaker 2>about the legends of giants and creatures with very big

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<v Speaker 2>feet and cannibals, and there's all kinds of cool, juicy stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>When you start looking at the legends and maybe some

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<v Speaker 2>of the inspirations for some of the petroglyphs that we find,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty crazy. But we'll get there. But tonight we're

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<v Speaker 2>just starting off with map Rock because that's our kind. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so what did you think of our trip down to

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<v Speaker 2>map Rock?

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty fun, it was. I mean, I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>been down there really. I've been to Melba, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>on the Snake River, but never that specific spot. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. Yeah, I mean, just these big rocks and

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird because the road goes right next to them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole area is cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It is pretty cool. And you know, one thing cool

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<v Speaker 2>about it is for people that don't know the area,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the Snake River Canyon and the river flows

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<v Speaker 2>down through these areas. The walls are lined with these jagged, dark,

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<v Speaker 2>jagging rocks and they crumbled down into the lower areas

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<v Speaker 2>of the canyon, and then the river's running through it,

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<v Speaker 2>and usually along the river's edge there's like some fertile

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<v Speaker 2>area where farmers have created little, you know, farm plots, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're growing wheat, potatoes and stuff. And then up

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<v Speaker 2>above that on top of the canyon is also a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of sedimentary soil up there, and that is the

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<v Speaker 2>rich stuff around Melbow where they're growing potatoes and really

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They like a lot of orchards and stuff around Melbow too, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do, and in wineries and stuff too. There's

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<v Speaker 2>something about the volcanic soil that's really I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good for plank growth and that's what made Idahope

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<v Speaker 2>potato so famous. Is this whole area. It's all a

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<v Speaker 2>giant floodplain from when they think Lake Bonneville broke loose

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<v Speaker 2>and so it washed all this soil down. It left

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<v Speaker 2>these deposits of really rich soil for vegetation, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of makes sense when you think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why the Native Americans were following these furl areas,

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<v Speaker 2>not so much because they were you know, plant growers,

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<v Speaker 2>but because there was a lot of game and things

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<v Speaker 2>like that that they could harvest.

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<v Speaker 1>This kind of grew naturally and then the animals love.

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<v Speaker 2>It, yeah, and then they would follow back and forth,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, through the seasons, they would go through this

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<v Speaker 2>area and they would you know, migrate back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's another aspect of the rocks that they

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<v Speaker 2>think there that maybe they were navigational points for members

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<v Speaker 2>of tribes where they could say, Okay, this is where

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<v Speaker 2>we're at, and then we'll stay here for a certain

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time. Then we'll move on to our next

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<v Speaker 2>hunting ground or our next you know, if we're one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred gatherer, we'll go gather somewhere else when you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the fall comes and we have to move on, which

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It is pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like signposts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like they I mean, they came up with

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<v Speaker 1>their own little system. It's kind of like a calendar,

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<v Speaker 1>like each section could maybe be like, oh, through this

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<v Speaker 1>part of the year until it gets the first frost

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, we'll move out to this other area. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they got their own little sections and they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just migrating around and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's something that developed over time. It's not like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they had two hundred years into this, like

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<v Speaker 2>America has been around for a couple hundred years. They

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<v Speaker 2>were there for thousands of years. This information was creimulated

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<v Speaker 2>over thousands of years. The practice of creating petroglyphs wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>like a one time deal. It was stuff that continued.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's really old stuff and buy really new stuff

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<v Speaker 2>right And in fact, in the hills outside of Gooding

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of older Indian petroglyphs. But when

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<v Speaker 2>the Basque sheep herders moved in, when they immigrated to

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<v Speaker 2>the United States and moved west, and you know, around

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<v Speaker 2>probably the turn of the century, late eighteen hundreds, early

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen hundreds, they started leaving signs and stuff petro glyphs

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<v Speaker 2>around the rocks. So they're right next to the old stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>That's weird. Yeah, culture clash.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, kind of it almost makes me want to go

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<v Speaker 2>out and chisel some rocks. Right, we could do a

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<v Speaker 2>whole episode on.

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<v Speaker 1>Rock Chisis That sounds like a terrible late night you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like on some History channel, Welcome to Chiseling Rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's fascinating you read this stuff. It's it's very informative,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's something most people never slow down enough to

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<v Speaker 2>actually pay attention to really ponder.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of weird petrogly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gonna go really strange here in the next

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<v Speaker 2>few episodes, so hang with us.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I think of when I see stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like map rock or whatever. What is There's a little

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<v Speaker 1>Native American family and the kids are so freaking annoying,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's an older brother and two little ones. And

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<v Speaker 1>the mom tells the older brother just take the kids

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<v Speaker 1>out of here so we can just clean up our

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<v Speaker 1>little wit wom or whatever. And so the kid the

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<v Speaker 1>older brother is like, fine, whatever, I'll go by the river,

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<v Speaker 1>and it takes the kids down there. The kids are bored,

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<v Speaker 1>and so just start scratching the rock. So the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like kids will like scribble all over. They

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<v Speaker 1>make like ziggy zaggy lines. But then the older brother

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well that's kind of cool actually, So he's like,

422
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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if I could Like, I wonder if I

423
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<v Speaker 1>could deer, if that deer I saw yesterday that I

424
00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:05.640
<v Speaker 1>was gonna hunt, but Dad wouldn't freaking let me. It

425
00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:09.079
<v Speaker 1>was freaking trot and he drew a little deer and

426
00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:10.720
<v Speaker 1>the kids were like, I can do that, and then

427
00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:13.799
<v Speaker 1>they drew deer. But it's got like a big head.

428
00:23:13.839 --> 00:23:17.279
<v Speaker 1>And then now we're like, oh, that must be aliens,

429
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<v Speaker 1>And really it was just like bored.

430
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<v Speaker 2>Well, there is some weird stuff around that that they

431
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<v Speaker 2>believe that a lot of these things were created for

432
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<v Speaker 2>religious reasons, like maybe the shamanistic kind of things, where

433
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<v Speaker 2>you have like a tribal leader.

434
00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Or a medicine man, Yeah.

435
00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Medicine man that goes out and does these things for

436
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<v Speaker 2>specific reasons, maybe maybe to capture the spirits of the

437
00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:47.160
<v Speaker 2>elk or deer so that they have a bountiful hunt,

438
00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:50.720
<v Speaker 2>or you know, who knows what it is. But I

439
00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:55.599
<v Speaker 2>find that very interesting too. And as primitive as these look,

440
00:23:56.119 --> 00:24:00.240
<v Speaker 2>some of them are pretty darn sophisticated, maybe not here

441
00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.920
<v Speaker 2>around our area, but in other parts, especially for people

442
00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.039
<v Speaker 2>that are supposed to be that old, you know, eight

443
00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:10.119
<v Speaker 2>thousand years ago, right, and so all of these things

444
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:13.240
<v Speaker 2>together kind of add this kind of mystique around.

445
00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:15.720
<v Speaker 1>It, and that culture anyway has like kind of a

446
00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:21.319
<v Speaker 1>like a more spiritual, spiritual and just mysterious because they

447
00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:24.839
<v Speaker 1>were like they lived off the earth. They just everything

448
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:27.400
<v Speaker 1>they did was connected to whatever is going on in

449
00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the world. So maybe it's not so much a map,

450
00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.680
<v Speaker 1>but it's a story. Could be a story, or it

451
00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:36.799
<v Speaker 1>could be like I don't even know, but it might

452
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<v Speaker 1>not be so linear the way we think of it.

453
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<v Speaker 1>It could be more like open. It could be more

454
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<v Speaker 1>three dimensional where we apply our modern logic to X,

455
00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Y and z. You know, maybe there's more to it

456
00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:52.440
<v Speaker 1>than just oh, there must be a lot of deer

457
00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:53.680
<v Speaker 1>here and that's what they were hunting.

458
00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:55.839
<v Speaker 2>More to it or possibly less to it.

459
00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:57.839
<v Speaker 1>It could have been more logical, it.

460
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<v Speaker 2>Could be yeah, you know, it's really That's one thing

461
00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:02.839
<v Speaker 2>I think is so cool about it. You can really

462
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:05.759
<v Speaker 2>start getting into all these thoughts and ideas about it.

463
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:08.559
<v Speaker 2>And what's so unique to me is that we can

464
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<v Speaker 2>walk by this stuff and see it a thousand times

465
00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:13.839
<v Speaker 2>and we never think about it. But when you start

466
00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:16.640
<v Speaker 2>thinking about it, all these things start swirling and coming around.

467
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<v Speaker 2>It's like the thought you just had. Maybe it's not linear,

468
00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:24.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's it's something else. Maybe it's more philosophical, or

469
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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's more spiritual or religious, or or you know,

470
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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's mysticism, or maybe it's a hard science of

471
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<v Speaker 2>the day. You know, I don't know. You know, the

472
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<v Speaker 2>little dots that they put on some of these rocks,

473
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<v Speaker 2>is that like the members of the family, Is that

474
00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:42.759
<v Speaker 2>the numbers of generations of your family heritage? Is that

475
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:44.839
<v Speaker 2>how many days until winter happens?

476
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it could say how many dots you could

477
00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:48.279
<v Speaker 1>do before your arm got tired?

478
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:48.559
<v Speaker 2>Right?

479
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Is that.

480
00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:52.720
<v Speaker 2>A punishment because you were a rotten little kid and

481
00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:54.680
<v Speaker 2>your dad said, go out there and make dots on rock?

482
00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:59.599
<v Speaker 2>You know, you don't know. But for whatever reason, it

483
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:01.759
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like a fly by night kind of thing that

484
00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:05.759
<v Speaker 2>just happened. Once it was common and it was global.

485
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:09.160
<v Speaker 2>It was global, and these tribes they saw it everywhere

486
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>they went and they shared it. And not just the

487
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:14.720
<v Speaker 2>tribes here, you know, the Shoshone and the Bannock and those,

488
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:20.519
<v Speaker 2>but all across the country. They were sharing parts of

489
00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:23.400
<v Speaker 2>their culture in the way that they were depicting things

490
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:28.119
<v Speaker 2>on these rocks. And whether that timeframe was ten thousand

491
00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:30.960
<v Speaker 2>years ago or two thousand years ago or five hundred

492
00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 2>years ago, it doesn't matter. It was still a way

493
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<v Speaker 2>to share the information.

494
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<v Speaker 4>Right.

495
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<v Speaker 2>One interesting thing I saw was every continent in the

496
00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:44.079
<v Speaker 2>world except for one, has petroglyphs.

497
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:47.599
<v Speaker 1>Hm, can you guess the continent Antarctica?

498
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica? That's rue.

499
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't imagine there's many there.

500
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's rocks there, but it's kind of like

501
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:54.119
<v Speaker 2>a giant island.

502
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.039
<v Speaker 1>How you get there and why?

503
00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well, another thing that's really fascinating is that a

504
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:04.359
<v Speaker 2>lot of the petroglyphs, even if they're in different locations,

505
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:08.319
<v Speaker 2>different continents, they share a lot of similarities.

506
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I one similarity just off the top of my head

507
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>because I went to DC and my freshman year of

508
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.559
<v Speaker 1>high school. Yeah, I remember that stayed at some hotel

509
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:21.319
<v Speaker 1>and we saw all these different kind of things, And

510
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:23.279
<v Speaker 1>it was hard because I was a freshman in high

511
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:26.079
<v Speaker 1>school and there's girls around you. I wasn't really paying

512
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.279
<v Speaker 1>attention to anything. But I do remember us going to

513
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.160
<v Speaker 1>one place and they said that there were stories and

514
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:37.759
<v Speaker 1>maybe petroglyphs or pictures of Native Americans like stabbing sturgeon

515
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>and like riding them in the bay or the area,

516
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>so I remember that. And then another thing that comes

517
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>to mind is there's like a cave with some petroglyphs

518
00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>off a river, and I don't remember the exact location.

519
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I just heard this story and supposedly that's the entrance

520
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to the Hollow Earth. But you can only get there

521
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.079
<v Speaker 1>on a river, and you need to know where the

522
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.200
<v Speaker 1>cave is and follow the signs.

523
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:04.480
<v Speaker 2>So you have to find the right petroglyphs, Yeah.

524
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Find the right And then the other one I think

525
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.079
<v Speaker 1>of is it might have been like Meat Eater, the

526
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.839
<v Speaker 1>TV show, which is also a good podcast. It might

527
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 1>have been like Chasing Monsters or one of those. But

528
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:23.319
<v Speaker 1>he's in like Brazil or some some tribal area in

529
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>like South America, and it's like deep in the forest.

530
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:31.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean's just they're like breaking through sticks and their

531
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>snakes and it's just nasty terrain there, like pulling their

532
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:39.519
<v Speaker 1>boats around waterfalls and just I mean it's bad. They

533
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>get their boat up above the waterfall and they're about

534
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>ready to launch back in the water and they're doing

535
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:47.359
<v Speaker 1>some fishing, maybe for some dinner, and there's a petroglyph,

536
00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>just a carving on a rock, right off by the river,

537
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:53.319
<v Speaker 1>and that's the first thing I think of, is like

538
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:57.119
<v Speaker 1>it's always by water. It's always like like waters were

539
00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:00.559
<v Speaker 1>like the original highways, like you said, or or maybe

540
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:04.519
<v Speaker 1>there's more like spiritualness around water too. It's mysterious and.

541
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Well it's kind of what brings life. It is to

542
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.400
<v Speaker 2>as it brings life Terrius, which there's a fascinating parallel

543
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.079
<v Speaker 2>there too to the whole symbolism of the water that

544
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.880
<v Speaker 2>flowed out of the Garden of Eden. Yeah, but we're

545
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>not gonna get in there yet.

546
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that.

547
00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it talks about that living water. Yeah, anywhere water,

548
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:28.680
<v Speaker 2>petroglyphs in their heavy symbolism and water. Oh yeah, yeah.

549
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:30.799
<v Speaker 1>But I just noticed, you know, off the top of

550
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>my head, the three that it come to mind. It's

551
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:35.839
<v Speaker 1>just well now four because of map rock and stuff.

552
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know the other thing that kind of blew

553
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:39.799
<v Speaker 2>me away when I was researching some of this. So

554
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.880
<v Speaker 2>the Europeans came to the Americans what fifteen something, I

555
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know, yeah, pre Columbus. But anyway, they came I

556
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:49.680
<v Speaker 2>think at fifteen hundreds, and they started going up and

557
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:53.559
<v Speaker 2>the Spanish people started to like take over tribes, and

558
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:57.720
<v Speaker 2>the tribes fought back. But it wasn't like the Americas

559
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:00.720
<v Speaker 2>was empty. I always in my mind thought there were

560
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:03.799
<v Speaker 2>a few, you know, sporadic tribes running around, you know,

561
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:09.880
<v Speaker 2>but there were huge numbers of Native American tribes and

562
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>South American tribes, and they were all over the place,

563
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.240
<v Speaker 2>up and down the whole I mean, the content down

564
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.519
<v Speaker 2>through South America, all the way up through North America.

565
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:20.839
<v Speaker 1>And for a long time.

566
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:23.720
<v Speaker 2>For a long time obviously, I mean, these petrogls been

567
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:27.559
<v Speaker 2>around for up to twelve thousand years, I mean, which, okay,

568
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:29.480
<v Speaker 2>so I'm a skeptic on the dating on all of

569
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:33.440
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. Probably that's really fantastic, But even if it

570
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.680
<v Speaker 2>was twelve thousand years old, that's a mind blower, right.

571
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.720
<v Speaker 2>The Industrial Revolution started, like what sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, hundreds

572
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.880
<v Speaker 2>came out of the Dark ages, and then we have

573
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.559
<v Speaker 2>all this advance of technology in five hundred years, four

574
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:53.039
<v Speaker 2>hundred years. These culture have been around for thousands and

575
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:56.839
<v Speaker 2>thousands of years, I mean, and we only know about

576
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:58.440
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of it and we're trying to piece

577
00:30:58.480 --> 00:30:59.319
<v Speaker 2>together the rest.

578
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, and it's pretty crazy. That's what I was

579
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:05.839
<v Speaker 1>just thinking about, Like can you imagine having a complete

580
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:10.000
<v Speaker 1>record of the history of everything before.

581
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:11.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, writing it down.

582
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.680
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, before it was like cataloged and well

583
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.559
<v Speaker 1>documented or at least documented to some extent, Like can

584
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>you imagine just like this' one tribe, like a straight

585
00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:27.119
<v Speaker 1>up Native American Romeo and Juliette story and it or

586
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.559
<v Speaker 1>like some big war of just aerow.

587
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Flames you don't know, or maybe we get a little

588
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.519
<v Speaker 2>glimpse of, like if you go down to South America

589
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:36.400
<v Speaker 2>and the Aztecs and some of the things there that

590
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:38.759
<v Speaker 2>were there, there are some things that kind of give

591
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 2>you hints to some of that, or like you know,

592
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:44.480
<v Speaker 2>look in the Middle East, I mean out of Egypt

593
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.720
<v Speaker 2>and Assyria and all of those cultures. We do have

594
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of history that's managed to survive because they

595
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:56.119
<v Speaker 2>could write the caneaform stuff, they could chisel it into rocks,

596
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:58.920
<v Speaker 2>and they could in a language and a something that

597
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:02.920
<v Speaker 2>could be deciphered, the Egyptian hieroglyphics, which is way different

598
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:06.599
<v Speaker 2>than a petroglyph because a petroglyph is isn't like a

599
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.359
<v Speaker 2>like a language like that. It might have meaning, but

600
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not a language that you can interpret like that. Right,

601
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:16.680
<v Speaker 2>We'll get into some of the meanings of some of

602
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:21.400
<v Speaker 2>the typical type of inscriptions that you find chiseled into rocks,

603
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.480
<v Speaker 2>but it's nothing compared to like the sophisticated cultures that

604
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:26.400
<v Speaker 2>you see in the Middle East.

605
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:29.359
<v Speaker 1>And it's just crazy. They have, like a good record

606
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 1>of history in the Americas would be pretty insane.

607
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, well, and then you think, okay, we've

608
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:40.279
<v Speaker 2>got a pretty good timeline of like Egypt and Babylon

609
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:43.279
<v Speaker 2>and all of those. But then here in the Americas

610
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 2>we don't have that. We have like nothing crude dating

611
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 2>techniques for scratches and rocks and songs. But they're contemporary, right,

612
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:55.759
<v Speaker 2>They're just on a different content, split up by giant oceans.

613
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Right. Crazy.

614
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:00.720
<v Speaker 2>It baffles me. It makes me to you know, you

615
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:04.039
<v Speaker 2>wonder what kind of legacy you leave behind. You know,

616
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.720
<v Speaker 2>we don't scratch in rocks anymore. We build giant cities,

617
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:11.559
<v Speaker 2>I guess as cultures. But even even like things like

618
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:16.440
<v Speaker 2>books that used to be written are all going digital, right,

619
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.680
<v Speaker 2>So analog is going away. It's all going digital. So

620
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.319
<v Speaker 2>what are they going to find if there's a collapse

621
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:24.160
<v Speaker 2>of civilization, what are they fine?

622
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Trash?

623
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:29.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we can't start up a I mean, okay, no

624
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:33.440
<v Speaker 2>offense to Apple and Macintosh and those computers, but two

625
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:34.960
<v Speaker 2>thousand years those aren't going to start.

626
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>The only things are gonna have is no Kia phones.

627
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:39.119
<v Speaker 1>It's still working.

628
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Or maybe maybe they'll find a way to basically convey

629
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.200
<v Speaker 2>data out into the universe so that it will always

630
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:50.160
<v Speaker 2>be available. I don't know. Or maybe that's already happened

631
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.319
<v Speaker 2>and we just haven't tapped into it. Maybe we have

632
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:56.359
<v Speaker 2>the record of what happened in the primitive cultures. Maybe

633
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<v Speaker 2>they're there, we just don't know how to access it yet.

634
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<v Speaker 1>Isn't there a movie where the guy can see the

635
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<v Speaker 1>past in a location?

636
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like he looks and he gets like an image

637
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<v Speaker 2>of it.

638
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

639
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't remember the name of it. That'd be cool.

640
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:10.800
<v Speaker 1>It'd be a weird superpower.

641
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:12.000
<v Speaker 2>It'd be terrifying.

642
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.639
<v Speaker 1>Actually, I think that a lot. Like when I'm hunting,

643
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of things that come into my head.

644
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Like one, if I look straight, I just focus on

645
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<v Speaker 1>one spot. How many animals are there in my field

646
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:26.639
<v Speaker 1>division that I just don't know?

647
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 2>They're that are hidden?

648
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Snakes, rabbits, whatever, kittens, yeah, whatever. And then my other

649
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:37.079
<v Speaker 1>thing is lice. My other thing is like, has somebody

650
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.280
<v Speaker 1>walked here? Like, surely there has been somebody up here.

651
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:41.679
<v Speaker 2>When you're up on a mountain, Yeah.

652
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>But you feel so alone, like you don't see anybody.

653
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.519
<v Speaker 1>But we've been on hikes before. We're like, we're way

654
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 1>off the path. Yeah, nobody, and we're taking a step

655
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and wait and there's a bootprint or maybe like a

656
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:56.559
<v Speaker 1>power bar wrapper. Yeah, and you're like, dang.

657
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 2>You go to Antarctica and there a Coca Cola can,

658
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Polar Bear Coca Cola nice. Which there's a lot of

659
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.159
<v Speaker 2>weird stuff in Antarctica. I was reading some stuff on it,

660
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:14.760
<v Speaker 2>like secret military bases. But anyway, that's another that's another episode.

661
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:18.159
<v Speaker 1>The center or the entrance to the hollow in the.

662
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:21.199
<v Speaker 2>North Pole South Pole is like a giant underground bunker

663
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:27.079
<v Speaker 2>where they're doing we'd testing and stuff with aliens or yeah. Yeah,

664
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:29.440
<v Speaker 2>but anyway, we don't want to go there yet. We

665
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>don't want to waste we don't want to burn all

666
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:35.559
<v Speaker 2>our future episodes. But yeah, so map Rock. Map Rock

667
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.119
<v Speaker 2>is kind of our map start. It's kind of our

668
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:43.039
<v Speaker 2>start here location. It seemed fitting, and we're going to

669
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 2>map out some things moving forward. As we go into

670
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:48.280
<v Speaker 2>this a little deeper, we're going to talk a little

671
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:52.159
<v Speaker 2>more about some different petroglyphs, and we're going to ponder stuff, right,

672
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:55.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, I love pondering. Who knows? I hope that

673
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:59.559
<v Speaker 2>we're not being offensive to any Native American friends out

674
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.880
<v Speaker 2>there that listening. We don't know a whole heck of a

675
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:04.599
<v Speaker 2>lot about what we're talking about.

676
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:08.280
<v Speaker 1>No, but it's a cool reason reason or just kind

677
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<v Speaker 1>of learn about something, and yeah, odds are you and

678
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>me will probably get a lot of it wrong.

679
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I would really like to find and we have a

680
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:20.119
<v Speaker 2>few friends that have a very rich Native American past,

681
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.519
<v Speaker 2>I would love to sit down and learn some of

682
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:27.039
<v Speaker 2>the spiritual thoughts they have about what these are. One

683
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<v Speaker 2>thing I don't want to do is say anything that

684
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:32.360
<v Speaker 2>offends anybody, because a lot of this stuff, if it

685
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 2>does have kind of a religious or spiritual context to it,

686
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to trivialize that, right, because that's something

687
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.400
<v Speaker 2>that's very important to them. Just to kind of get

688
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:44.280
<v Speaker 2>this in everybody's veins, I would love people to go

689
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:48.760
<v Speaker 2>out and look around in their geographical area and see

690
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:51.840
<v Speaker 2>what kind of petroglyphs might be close by. If you'd

691
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.159
<v Speaker 2>like to take pictures of those and send them to us,

692
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:57.039
<v Speaker 2>we'll share them on our website. I would love to

693
00:36:57.039 --> 00:36:59.719
<v Speaker 2>see them. I know there are tons out there, and

694
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:02.519
<v Speaker 2>if you have any information about them, you know, and

695
00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:06.280
<v Speaker 2>that maybe we can't just find by googling it or

696
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:10.199
<v Speaker 2>getting online. Gosh would love that information.

697
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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of the people I talk to they

698
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.639
<v Speaker 1>have like a oh yeah, back when Oregon, where I

699
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>grew up, of stories, there's a you know, a big

700
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>old rock, it's got a carve in of a canoe,

701
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:25.639
<v Speaker 1>or you know some crazy thing. Everybody's got a story.

702
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do. So that kind of gets me into

703
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:32.199
<v Speaker 2>my final thing, which is, if you, Austin, we're going

704
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.159
<v Speaker 2>to go out and create your own petroglyph, what would

705
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:38.280
<v Speaker 2>you inscribe on that? Knowing that in a thousand years,

706
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:41.280
<v Speaker 2>two thousand years, ten thousand years somebody would look at it,

707
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:43.679
<v Speaker 2>what would you want to put on that?

708
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.519
<v Speaker 1>I think it would be like a big a okay,

709
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:51.840
<v Speaker 1>with an I in the middle of it, like these

710
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:54.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of like radio frequency bolts.

711
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:56.519
<v Speaker 2>This strange thing will goo.

712
00:37:56.639 --> 00:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the strange thing. That's a weird rock.

713
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:02.360
<v Speaker 2>That would be really cool.

714
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a giant but what about what.

715
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.800
<v Speaker 2>About I mean as as you as a human leaving

716
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:12.880
<v Speaker 2>a legacy for future generations to see or to convey

717
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:14.960
<v Speaker 2>something that was important to you. What would you put

718
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:18.199
<v Speaker 2>on the rock? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

719
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:20.880
<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting question because I wonder sometimes that might

720
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:25.639
<v Speaker 2>help us understand what they put on the rocks, something

721
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:27.840
<v Speaker 2>important to them. I would probably put a picture.

722
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:33.719
<v Speaker 1>In my truck, in my motorcycle, my dog, my wife, my.

723
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Kids, in that order.

724
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my bow, my compound bow, not like a stick

725
00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:44.599
<v Speaker 1>bow like in the petroglyphs, but like my compound bow

726
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>in great detail.

727
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, I think I would do. I'd

728
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:53.960
<v Speaker 2>do a family chiseling m hm, and like my family

729
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:56.440
<v Speaker 2>because I want people to know that I had a

730
00:38:56.440 --> 00:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>great family. I do my grandparents, I do my parents,

731
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:02.400
<v Speaker 2>I do my kids, I do my wife, I do

732
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:06.199
<v Speaker 2>my grandkids and my great grandkids, in fact, as many

733
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.400
<v Speaker 2>kids as maybe when I'm ninety I'm out there chiseling

734
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:11.119
<v Speaker 2>because I just had my great great grandkid. That would

735
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:14.880
<v Speaker 2>be awesome. And then like something maybe like a tree

736
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.079
<v Speaker 2>to say this is a family tree.

737
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:20.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh a tree, yeah, tree nice?

738
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:24.079
<v Speaker 2>I like the idea tree. And then maybe something that

739
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:28.159
<v Speaker 2>means something to me spiritually, like a cross, or like

740
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:32.840
<v Speaker 2>a dove or a something that vins something like that,

741
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.119
<v Speaker 2>that would be cool. Trying to think anything else, tell

742
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:38.280
<v Speaker 2>my cell phone number.

743
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Mike was here, Yeah, Mike was here for a good

744
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>time call, or you know, like six three old nine,

745
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:47.119
<v Speaker 1>like all the stuff.

746
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:50.800
<v Speaker 2>That we carve in trees, Initials in a heart forever.

747
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Beckham and I have a log out by the lake

748
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:58.760
<v Speaker 1>where we shoot carps that has our initials described into it.

749
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>A plus.

750
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know. Part of me thinks that the reason

751
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:08.320
<v Speaker 2>that these were inscribed in stone is because they meant

752
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:11.679
<v Speaker 2>a lot. Whatever it is, it means something pretty major

753
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:13.559
<v Speaker 2>that they wanted a lot of people to know about

754
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:15.960
<v Speaker 2>for a long long time. Reminds me of the old

755
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Randy Travis song written in stone.

756
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:26.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna take you down to the riverside where the

757
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.960
<v Speaker 4>water runs slow, and why there's a big old rock

758
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:34.960
<v Speaker 4>out in the middle, and not to my ham un

759
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:39.519
<v Speaker 4>chisel and worked all night so you could see just

760
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:43.840
<v Speaker 4>how much you mean to me. I carved your name

761
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:47.880
<v Speaker 4>riding next to mine, and it'll be there till the

762
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:53.119
<v Speaker 4>end of time, and my love last at least that long.

763
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:56.679
<v Speaker 4>It's written in stone.

764
00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:58.239
<v Speaker 2>How feel for you?

765
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.320
<v Speaker 4>It's written in stone? What I want to.

766
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:06.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that one. There's a lot of songs

767
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>that say that we're rocking it, but.

768
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:09.800
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get the Randy Travis.

769
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Randy Travis.

770
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was the first CD moment I ever bought

771
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 2>when they first came out with the compact disc technology.

772
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 2>WHOA have a lot of five discs Sony CD changer. Yeah,

773
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.880
<v Speaker 2>it was cool cool. I didn't have a stereo system

774
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:28.280
<v Speaker 2>to play it on, but I bought the component nice.

775
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Well anyway, Hey, it was a fun discussion to get

776
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:34.360
<v Speaker 2>this thing going. Kickoff. We have a video of our

777
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:38.639
<v Speaker 2>kickoff on the website Superficial super Official. I mean, the

778
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:40.320
<v Speaker 2>quality of that thing is amazing.

779
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Video editing.

780
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, actually it sucks. The camera camera fell over, camera

781
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:50.679
<v Speaker 2>fell over. I didn't adjust the I was set on auto,

782
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.119
<v Speaker 2>so it was in a dark I lightened it up

783
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:55.119
<v Speaker 2>the best I could, but there's a lot of artifacts

784
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:57.360
<v Speaker 2>and because it was getting pretty dark and the wind

785
00:41:57.400 --> 00:41:58.880
<v Speaker 2>was blowing like forty.

786
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Miles in the video. Oh, my legs are huge.

787
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Because they're aimed forward. I know, but we just used

788
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:08.679
<v Speaker 2>our regular digital camera and put it on video mode,

789
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:11.599
<v Speaker 2>so it wasn't that great. We gotta fix that. I'm

790
00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:15.840
<v Speaker 2>actually looking at some drones, whoa some follow me drones.

791
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:18.519
<v Speaker 2>But we could set some way points and have them

792
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 2>go over some of these things we're talking about and

793
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 2>look at them from different angles. It would be cool

794
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:27.239
<v Speaker 2>to migrate slowly into a little bit of video, you know,

795
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:30.320
<v Speaker 2>because people get probably tired of listening to our voices

796
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:37.039
<v Speaker 2>going on. So yeah, there's something. But anyway, Yeah, go

797
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:39.480
<v Speaker 2>on line if you want to see us in all

798
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:44.800
<v Speaker 2>of our non glory, and also check out our website

799
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 2>because on the opening page, if you scroll down, you'll

800
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:50.880
<v Speaker 2>see there's blog posts there and we're gonna be putting

801
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:52.840
<v Speaker 2>tons of pictures up to kind of show you where

802
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.840
<v Speaker 2>we're at, and we're gonna put information on there about

803
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:57.199
<v Speaker 2>the places that we go.

804
00:42:57.320 --> 00:42:59.239
<v Speaker 1>And our motorcycle, yeah, which I.

805
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Hope we get close. We're getting close to being able

806
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 2>to take the bikes out.

807
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.440
<v Speaker 1>In the back of our id ided.

808
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So yeah, keep checking in on our website, share

809
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:12.800
<v Speaker 2>us with friends, family that maybe would enjoy our podcast.

810
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Do the Facebook, Instagram, all those followers.

811
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, follow us. We got all of those. I think

812
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:21.800
<v Speaker 2>we were up to like I think on Instagram, I

813
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:23.679
<v Speaker 2>think we're around a half. I think we're almost at

814
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:27.880
<v Speaker 2>thirty or something. I know we started at zero, we're

815
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:30.320
<v Speaker 2>up to thirty. We'd like to have like thirty thousand,

816
00:43:30.519 --> 00:43:34.480
<v Speaker 2>thirty jillion. I'd probably post more on Instagram and Twitter

817
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 2>if we had more people that followed us. But I

818
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:38.880
<v Speaker 2>feel like, oh, two people are going to get a message.

819
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.559
<v Speaker 1>What's the point. Oh there's Mic in his rock again.

820
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I like talking about his rock.

821
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:48.760
<v Speaker 1>But we don't forget to leave reviews though on Yeah

822
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:52.760
<v Speaker 1>iTunes and Stitcher and Yeah and all them guys.

823
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.800
<v Speaker 2>I do think the stuff we talk about is interesting

824
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:58.000
<v Speaker 2>enough that it will resonate with people if we get

825
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 2>enough kind of traction going the weird people. Yeah, weird people.

826
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:04.880
<v Speaker 1>People were talking about, Oh what what did you get

827
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>for Father's Day?

828
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I got some really cool cornhole boards that

829
00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:14.559
<v Speaker 2>have our logo on them. I don't know, some crazy

830
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:17.119
<v Speaker 2>kids of mine went in together and had them made

831
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:17.880
<v Speaker 2>special for me.

832
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>You're super sweet.

833
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I just sat down and smiled for like a half hour. Giggled, yeah, giggle,

834
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:26.079
<v Speaker 2>I just smiled. It's awesome.

835
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 1>Well. Shout out to Cody the Cornhole King.

836
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Cody cornhole king. Is he the guy that made the boards,

837
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:35.400
<v Speaker 2>made thanks in your neighborhood and turned out really sweet?

838
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:37.960
<v Speaker 2>And what was that Shaley or pizza hut?

839
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Hi Shaley, Yeah, hi to you and.

840
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:45.199
<v Speaker 2>Any one down in California. Good to see that you

841
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:47.400
<v Speaker 2>like some of the stuff we put up, and makes

842
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:50.639
<v Speaker 2>me feel good that you're still listening. So if she

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<v Speaker 2>ares around guys with that Austin, any closing words, any

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<v Speaker 2>words of wisdom?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really, I got nothing. I'm not wise.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta do is say, you know, take this lessons

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about map rock. You got to build your

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<v Speaker 2>life on the rock.

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<v Speaker 1>On the rock, right, because.

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<v Speaker 2>All the rest is sinking sand. Oh and if you

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<v Speaker 2>know that reference, I'm sorry. I hope I made you

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<v Speaker 2>smile or cry one of the other. All right, awkward word, Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So join us next time for some cold drinks and

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<v Speaker 1>some strange conversations about rocks. That's true.