Speaker 1: Man, this is the first cast I've done well with
like no facial hair, so a good walk, no Captain
America beard. Yeah, I just just wasn't going good. And
then everywhere else, like you know, it wouldn't grow in
certain places, and then like the other places it was grown,
it was just getting too long.
Speaker 2: I looked on.
Speaker 1: Proportion and it's like I could do this, And I
think you kind of screwed me because when you said
that thing of you know, the water, the sun or
the breeze in your face in summer. I kept thinking
about that every time I went for a slightly. I
went for a swim last week and I got up.
I was like, off this caterpillar on my Yeah, hell
jell and Welcome to Geek First Podcast, Episode one hundred
and thirty eight point seventy five. The reason we're doing
this because Blue Cage or not one hundred oh mane
and thirty eight we're work. I don't know it's one
hundred and ninety eight point seventy five because Blue Cage
was ninety eight point five. This is ninety eight point
seventy five. Because newscast this week and then next week
is are two are two years? No our three year anniversary,
and we're you know, inflating the numbers or deflating the
numbers so we can have the three year anniversary and
our two hundredth episode. Second, which you'll get that morning.
A second, I am. I am the Smooth Tressnel, Smooth
cruinal O, Mark God. Wow. Not even the nickname. No.
I totally spaced with this. I feel like there's thousands
of nickname for you to pick from this movie, from
the movie, from the franchise. That's the question. Oh my god, Wow,
this is this is not what I'm expected. I was expecting.
I was expecting a long, solid nickname, a long solid nickname.
H I am these creatures were here. First, Taylor Field,
help me out, big guy. How's the Jurassic World Evolution going?
The game? Oh, it's fantastic. How much have you been
playing it?
Speaker 3: It's not a game I can sit down and actually,
you know, play for like half an hour. When I
sit down, I have to I have to actually commit
to like two to three or more hours playing this
game to do like the missions and everything.
Speaker 1: But I am almost unlocked my indoor raptor. Wow. And
then so you do you keep? You got to keep
the park and everything happy, Like is there a meter
of people being pleased or whatnot? There's like a five
star rating.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't really care about what the people want,
because I think this is the tell a.
Speaker 1: One star that no I can get for someone to
care what the people want. I can only get to
like a four point five. What are you the head
of DC Films over there? I don't care. That's not
I don't care what the people want. I want. No,
it's uh.
Speaker 3: It starts off basically with one island, and then as
you reach to a certain progression amount on that island,
and then you unlock the second island, and there's five
islands that you can access. So I was just going
from island to island and over the course, like you
may finish the first island, but not unlock everything yet.
Speaker 1: So you go to the second island, lock more, and
I'm on the fifth island.
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to unlock everything and I can go
back and I'm gonna restart all the islands with everything unlocked,
just do a second run through. But no, it's good.
There's lots of action.
Speaker 1: And where did the people hear more about that? If
they were interested in this video game. I highly recommend
buying the video game. You can hear an experience, but
maybe they need to hear somebody review it before they
buy that video game. Yeah, you know, go on to
our YouTube because there's the review for the Jurassic World Revolution.
That's been a lot since I've done a podcast. I
guess the three for you hasn't have been Yeah, yeah,
it was a while ago. Yeah, shit, it's been Taylor's rest.
I'm rusty. I just called him Dylan, so I will
go on that. Yeah that's good. So yeah, check that out.
I feel like it threw a smooth transition, but it
didn't work out there. Also, Taylor, what what do we
have coming up next week? What's what anniversary are we on?
I don't think you're gonna get this one, but I'm
tellpill perfectly telling. What anniversary are we on? Do you
mean like like a year anniversary or what? Yeah? What
what year are we coming up on? Year three? Yeah? Yeah? Three?
Oh you're going? Yeah, you know, I knew. I knew
the whole day I was gonna throw that to him,
and I kept going back and forth. I'm like, will
you do? Will you not? No? Year three laser just
like the whole border boom. We can our douvees are weird,
but uh, we're speaking of Gaulan will be officially back
after commic Con. I've said that a couple of times.
We've been super busy. Eat Three kicked our asses. We've
been trying to coordinate cast this and that. So that's
why for me, instead of saying, hey, it might be
this week, might be this week after Comic Con is
when it's gonna come a lot of stuff. You're gonna
get the team tournament, Taylor's gonna shot kirkl on Patz
for the sports title, and we have I can't reveal
the match yet, but we have a huge match that
is being planned and it's also a match that takes
a lot of time editing. There's been tough things in
my schedule, so that's why I want when galland to
come back, I don't want to be, you know, one
match a month. I wanted to be back on regular schedule.
So we'll be coming back because I know you fans
when we're not missing, when we miss out and stuff,
you ask about stuff. So we got that and then yeah,
next year is our three year anniversary. What I'm gonna
ask you guys to do. If you're watching this, if
you're a fan, if you're a new fan, old fan,
I don't care, if you're fan from another dimension. On
Facebook and on Twitter, the pim posts are we want
you to send in your questions. We've done this the
past two years. We've done some great questions before. What
we do is for our anniversary shows. We just as
the cast, we ourselves have questions for every one of us.
They could be personal, behind the scenes, geek related, anything
like that. It's just a fun, laid back cast and
we take questions from the fans. We take anything, even
if you want to ask, Hey, whistraps a fucking idiot,
I'll tell you why I'm a fucking aa. Well, we
got a great question already yesterday of f Mary Keel
between Nasmigles and Michael fast Been and Robert Downey and Junior.
That's a legitimate question we got so between Mads fast
and Robert Downe. Yeah, don't answer down that's next week. Yeah,
so you all gotta do that. So yeah, so send
in your questions. You have until July six, because that's
when we're taping it. The actual episode will be of
July ninth, our actual third year, but we gotta you know,
we gotta. There's six of us, so we gotta quordiate
these things. So you have until July sixth getting those questions,
will answer along. It'll be a fun time. And then
next week also is am in Review speaking of July sixth,
that'll be live and uh, I think that's gonna be
a good old time. I don't think I'm gonna be
blown away like in Finny Ward, but I think we'll
have a couple of chuckles. So yeah, lots of stuff.
And then newscast this week as well, got a lot
to talk about, got predators to talk about. Yes, oh,
Jared Letto is I don't I'm I like half of
that trailer, so I'm excited to talk about it. At
a little iffy on some of their reveals. So I
got leto as another Marvel character. So our Marvel Marvel character.
You haven't heard about this in the group chat is
more Marvel. Yeah, he's a spider man villain. Oh you're
shitting me. Yeah, but he's gonna write the vampire. Oh fuck.
So we got a let's talk about the newscast this week,
but what we're gonna talk about right now is Jurassic
World Fall and Kingdom. A big thing as far as
Taylor has tattoos about it is Jurassic Park thing he
talked about. We talked about Jurassic World the first on
our first cast. Like we said, he just review the
video game. Who wants to go first? Okay, I'm gonna
go first. So I love the Drastic Park series, Jurassic Park,
even the trilogy. To me, as I've gotten older, those films,
the two and three are obviously not the highest quality,
but for me it's very much. It's a little less
to them, but it's like the Pirates trilogy, the Pirates Trilogy.
I love all three of those movies. I can't say
like I love Jurassic Park three, but I thoroughly enjoy it,
and yeah for other reasons. And I think Lost World
is a really solid pick too. Jurassic World I really liked,
and then as I watched it more, I wasn't a
fan of it. I hated those kids, like they really
grained on me. I remember when I really realized I
didn't like it, because I note that I didn't like it,
but I didn't like it as much as the first
time because I saw it was an awe. Second time,
I was like, oh right, and then I went to
a drive in and then I fell asleep in the
drive and that for me, I was like okay, and
I think there's some slow parts and there's some stuff
that people brought up. It's like, yeah, it's a little
annoying that dinosaur can kind of do whatever they want
everything like that. So this movie I had low expectations
because the trailer. I was not a fan of this movie.
Taylor and Nola this, I was not a fan of
this movie. It was probably one of my least favorite
movies I've ever seen since we've been doing the cast,
and I think the thing is, it's not that it's
it's once again, I always try to part this. This
isn't like the do over something like that where it's like, uh,
so bad as that level was like one of the
worst movies ever made. I think it for me is
one of the lesser like blockbuster movies, because those are
on a different scale. I guess is the reason I
think everyone loves Jurassic Park of the first one, because
like it asks a lot of morality questions, right, Like
the first half that movie is hey, we can do this,
but should we do? And they go into doctor Grant's feelings,
the Matt and Malcolm's feelings, Hammond's feelings, like all of them.
They really explore them. And then with this movie, like
as you've seen the trailers, the first big theme of
this is, you know, should dines or as exist? Should
we treat them as like animals? And that was where
the part for me is I'm disappointed because I feel
this movie is very much like parts Caribbean was a
dem mantels and hotel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, where I loved
the franchise and I really want to do well. And
it's just because there are certain things that disappoint me
so much. That's why I disliked it so much. And
for me, two examples I can use as far as
a good example and a bad example. So Batman for Superman,
you know, we've talked about that many times. They put
us a great question in that movie, They say, should
a Superman exist? And really that is a great question.
If yeah, if there wasn't a real Superman, should he
be in a world? Should he fall? Las blah blah,
But they don't really get into that. I just have
a few lines. There's one little court scene that's about it.
It's very similar to you know, this movie. And then
there's a movie like for me, The Dark Knight, which
is on by it's my favorite movie of all time.
But one of the themes is how far are you
willing to go to stop a criminal? And we see
from Jim Gordon's perspective that he's willing to go far
but not risk his family or his badge. You see
Batman who's willing to go against the law, be a
hidden figure and do things that are you know, a
little questionable and shady, but he's trying to catch the joker.
And then you see someone like Harvey Dan who's trying
to say purely by the books, but it gets broken.
And the whole movie is about these three characters going
through that experience. And that's why. And this is like
a very minors WoT but I feel like this movie.
And that's where I was really disappointed was that those
questions that I was worried about that in The Trader
that those questions are brought up, but they are answered
very quickly and it's more action sci fi movie. And
that's where and the other sequels do that too. That's
where Jassic Park, the original that combines those two very well.
Where this I felt was just very actioning and I
felt was a little over the top. There's a few
scenes that, like we'll talk about that I thought were
I laugh because I just couldn't believe they're happening. I
was just like, this movie is a wild movie and
it's a roller coaster movie, and I just think at
times it felt a little too sci fi channel like
when we talked about that trailer months ago and we
looked at all the Shark movies, it felt like a
shark nay at times, and that's where for me, I
was very cough guard and I didn't want that in
a Jurassic Park slash World movie. But I will say
this as a very big positive that the ending of
the movie has been very excited and very intrigued for
the future because it's something that I want to happen.
I'll tell you and our spoilers, but it's something to
end of the way. We're like, this is exactly where
it should end, and I'm I'm excited. I don't know
how it's gonna go with Colin Trevarro, but you know what,
I like Jurassic World more than this. I'll put faith
I'm not seeing that movie Book and Henry that people
say is an awful movie, So I'm gonna watch it
soon that apparent. Have you seen Book Henry no elatorated movie.
Peel said it was like one of the worst movies ever.
So I want to I want to watch it and
see why it hits that. But yeah, so I have
I have interest in where the ranches could go. But
this movie was it was not a movie for Travis Snail.
It was not and for like and you're gonna probably
give it quite a bit of praise. And then Dylan
is very much in the middle. I don't know what
Kirklam feels, but I think I'm in the minority as
far as I think people like it or dislike. I
just like it to quite like a suicide squad level.
But I uh, yeah, I I don't know. I had
a strange experience because there's many things in this movie
that took me for a wild ride. So before we
get into spoilers, Taylor, what do you think about this movie? Well,
you know, I'll kind of peel back what you're saying
a little bit they're like about you know, you say
you feel like you're in the minority. But it's hard
to tell really because when I look at.
Speaker 3: What people are saying online about it, it seems like a
lot of critics for the most.
Speaker 1: Part, you know, that have reviewed the movie, they aren't
fond of it.
Speaker 3: But then when I look at what the fans are saying,
like fan pages and everything, there's tons of people that
the fans like love the movie.
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. I why do I feel I'm
in the minority because I feel this movie has it's
more like I feel it is like trans So I
think that's you know, eure big fanis movies, so so
I know you like those. But the thing with Transformers
is I always before I until I met you, any
one of the percise Transformers and me Transformers was I
was always wondering where these people were coming from, like
this money was coming from, because they never spoke about it.
Was like Trump Folders, like they just are in their
secret caves and they don't talk. But like with this movie,
I would say, like Ron and Males, I think it's
like a fifty six. So that's the definition of like
it's a divisive movie. When people say, oh, the critics
were divided on like BBS SUITSID Squad, No, those are
twenty percent movies. That's that's a clear majority. I think
critics are kind of fifty to fifty because for me,
I see it's the the it's a dumb to me
the way people are really enjoying it, or the same
way they enjoy the fast and furious movies, like a fun, fast,
dumb action movie where it's just like and I don't
think that this movie's I think does some dumb things,
but I think what they're tackling wasn't dumb, but I
think it's and I do think that this is more
for families than a fast and fierce and Transformers. And
that's why I say, I guess I'm non the minority
because Transformers make lots of money, but like this made
quite a bit of money still, and it made more
money than it was expected because I wasn't sure because
even Drastic World, we've talked to similar people that had
that like, oh, I liked it, but not as much
as when I rewatch it, but like it didn't really
show in the like the box office for this movie,
which is we rarely do reviews after that happened, so
like people are coming back. I'm interesting what happens this
week like that that'll be the real telling of what
people really feel about it. Because there's no movies coming
out I think this week that are that big. So
I don't think. I think I'm in the minority as
far as how much I'm just like, I think there's
people that may not like it, but they they have
they look for a fun Paulpcorn flick, you know, and
I don't want that. It's the same as part as Caribbean.
I do want that, but the first part said such
as Madge, I don't want to feel that. Yeah, And
maybe it's just like I say this about aliens. It's
my worry about the Predator. It's just sometimes some of
these movies and I may will just never for me
get like a movie as good as the shirt Tater
is wearing. You know, maybe there's one great movie about
Jurassic the Drastic coming back, so Dinasaur is coming back
and the rest are gonna be, you know, just a
good action time.
Speaker 3: So you know, for me, gosh, you know, my Jurassic
Park experience goes way back, you know, land before time,
back when I was just a little tightight.
Speaker 1: You know, that's dinosaur experience, is not Jurassic that's Steven Spielberg.
Really yeah, I think Steven Spielberg, and I want to say,
George Lucas, he was making this up. No, I'm going
before time, yeah, land before time really yeah, like a
little foot and everything. Yeah, I look it up.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm very confident at Steven Spielberg and George Lucas.
But yeah, no, the laminfod time, That's what kickstarted me
being the whole dinosaur trend.
Speaker 1: And finally I remember, Wow, Yeah, executive produced by George
and Steven Spielberg lucasfilm, Wow fantastic. Should get George right
when these Jurassic Park movies, you know, that'd be interesting.
Incorporate aliens somehow into that Dinah Chlorians, Harrison Ford.
Speaker 3: No, I think when I after, you know, I moved
on from the whole little foot phase though I remember,
and I still have it my VHS copy of Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1: I just liked that you had a little foot phase
in your life. Oh yeah, I have watched those movies.
Are good, They're so good. But do you feels about
Disney's dinosaurs. You know, I didn't mind it. Yeah, I
don't love It's not something I could rewatch like a
lot a lot of but every once in a while
I'll watch it. It's definitely it's definitely blunt.
Speaker 3: It's got some scary moments, but that's a good animated film.
But yeah, no, I still got my VHS copy of
Jurassic Park. And I remember when I was little and
I walked into like our movie room and I found
this there and I just.
Speaker 1: It was on the shelf. I never watched it yet,
and I grabbed it, popped in the VHS player and
another way. It was honestly fantastic.
Speaker 3: And I remember I didn't know that there was a
Jurassic Park for a Lost World and then Drastic Park three.
By the time Drass Park three is come on theaters,
so I saw Drastic Park three in theaters.
Speaker 1: Actually that to me, it was the first one as
well that you saw in theaters. Really wow.
Speaker 3: I remember after that I that came out and I
was in Walmart. My mom got that on VHS and
the Lost World Special Addition on VHS. So I got
the whole O G trilogy on VHS. I love it,
had it since I was little and U it's great.
And for the longest time, I was just waiting and
waiting for Jurassic Park four to be announced or dropped.
Speaker 1: I would always go home after school. Google images always
go away. I'm not exaggerating that I would always go home.
I would go on to Google.
Speaker 3: I would type in Jurassic Park four, and I'd look
at all of the Google images of the art and stuff,
and I think, oh.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that movie did not happen. Well, there were
hybrid I didn't want that. The concept arts scared as
a show me. Yeah, we'll talk about some something spoilers
review where I'm more scared of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, it's just it was something that was
just highly anticipated for me. And finally when it was
announced and it came out, couldn't have been happier. And
the Drastic World loved. Drastic World thought it was fantastic.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting all that stuff like molsa sore hybrid dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: Which is much better than hybrid humans. And yeah, yeah,
so it was definitely a thrill ride. And I'll come
back to this and touch upon part of that when
we get into the spoilers. But but yeah, what do
you think about this movie? Oh right, you just get
you say what you liked about early about your Assic Park,
because I don't even know if you liked this movie
more than the first one. For some reason, I thought
you would, just because I don't know, I just had
a feeling you'd like this. Did we rate the first one?
We know because we started the cast right after that, right,
yeah we never. We never did. That's what we were
going to at some point if we ever do a retro,
but yeah, we never. That was one of the biggest
movies we still have reviewed.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, well, when we do the retro, I'll save
my review or not my review, but what I would
give it number wise, But as far as this movie goes,
I mean, Drastic World did so many things right that
was just really nostalgic for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And at the same time, Drastic World Fallen Kingdom
did so many things right for me that I wanted
out of this franchise to happen. So I mission to
see what those are because there's oh no, no, I
haven't met one of them. But okay, fair enough. I
I gosh, I don't know, I mean, I well, I'm
not giving it the number rating yet, but I mean
I do. I don't want to say. If I like
it more than Drastic World, we might not be doing
a retro for like another year. I don't think people
are gonna remember that, it's true, I don't. I feel
like I like them both very equally, Okay, and that
is because they do.
Speaker 3: Justice for each different thing that they were tackling. Okay,
so I think I think it's good. But yeah, no,
spoiler wise, we get to that there's a lot more
stuff I'll be able to bring up.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're we're gonna get spoilers and a three
two one. If not seen the movie, come back, we
will still be here. And if you have, then enjoy
the rest of review, because yeah, I think there's gonna
be things that I liked and or that I didn't
like until I really liked. And we can have a
good discussion the other way around. Yeah, yeah, and have
a good discussion about this and point counterpoint, because so
what are these things that fulfill for you as a
fan that you wanted to see. You're gonna get an
ad break and then you're gonna be right back to
the episode right off the bat. I my main huge
thing when I was little that I wanted was the
dinosaurs to be on the mainland. Okay, you got that
Lost world though the Lost World, I just got the
t Rex and that was that was beautiful. I loved it,
but it wasn't enough to satisfy me. Okay, So that's
I guess my contention is like I feel like we
don't really get them in the main world that much.
They get we get them in a house. I feel
like the next movie again I said, last chance for spoilers,
the next movie, We're gonna get them all over the mainland.
But I don't think this movie. I think this movie
was not Durssic Park in the mainland. I was Drassic
Park in the house Man and the Mansion. The mansion
that I don't know the layout of that house at all,
Like it made no sense at time, made much sense,
like a house of mirrors. It's just like these rooms
were materializing again to that later. But yeah, so that's
all I think. I thought that I thought that we
didn't see them on the mainland too much.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess I liked how it it was setting
up for it. I guess, yeah, we'll build up of email.
You know it's coming. You know, these dinosaurs are gonna
get away. Even though I definitely stand on the side
that they should kill the dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I get And that's where I come into though,
Like they kind of do that last minute with clear
and like making the sishes decision and everything like that.
But I wish the more of the movie is that,
because I feel like the movie opens with them and
the court and Nean Malcolm's there, but then they literally
just cut to the news like, well, we've decided we're
gonna let them die. Like I felt like there's gonna
be this big conversation and some of them find that boring,
but I don't. I feel like discussing ideologies and everything
like that for movie characters, especially for something that hopefully
we're never talking about near future, Like should dinosaurs be
a real thing so or should they be animals or
treat as such and have rights? And that's what was
the That's where probably the movie for me start off
on a really sad note, because they went over that
really quickly. That's maybe first five minutes, and then it's
into like action adventure time, you know, and that that's
what was really disappointing me start with that. But that's
why I'm surprised you like caught your head where I said,
I liked how it ended, because when we did the
trailer it was the first one, the second one. I said, like,
I want them to plan the apes this. I want
the next movie. I don't know if it's gonna be
full on post apocalyptic, but I want that. I want
post apocalyptic like world and there's dinosaurs around, like pretty
much just go like to the cave and age, but
with us having this technology and stuff like that. So
that's where the whole movie they they got me at
the end where I was still like, I was not
enjoying myself, but I'm still gonna be there for the
next one because I really like because that's something finally different.
Because for me, this was like this felt like Force
Awakens again, where it was like the greatest hits of
everything other than some of the I guess, yeah, we
never had a monster in a mansion, but like the bidding,
like the very first act of this movie other than
the volcano, is very much like Lost World, where you
got even the characters, you got all your sleazy hunters
and they're all acting the same, and they just around
these animals up. And that was the thing where it
felt like similar to all these other movies, but then
like less than for me, you know, but I like
where they in it because I like the potential of
a world falling apart. And then, you know, even though
I don't think now we should have called these first
two Jurassic World, because I feel like the next movie,
will it really be Jurassic World, So you know, they
should have they should have thought about that one before
they glue their loot on the title. So yeah.
Speaker 3: Another thing that did that I really liked was the
whole kind of background, the background atmosphere of how you know,
it's kind of like with Malcolm.
Speaker 1: Me and Malcolm was talking about how you know, nature,
I guess in the other movies too, nature selected them
for extinction and you know, you you can't change that.
Speaker 3: And now in the court room and even he was
stating that it wasn't really an act of God, but
it was just, you know, it was like nature taking
its course to you know, solidify that these.
Speaker 1: Dinosaurs are supposed to be dead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought that was great, that whole idea
behind that, and you know, surely human humans interaction came
into play and they brought the dinosaurs away, but then
nature took its course again and they were going to
die in that the laboratory with the pens later on.
I just liked how nature kept putting its foot down
to delete.
Speaker 1: Them from the history, but not the history books, delete
them first, kind of delete them from the face of
the earth. And I like that kind of Ian Malcolm
touch because I always find his character to be great.
He's great. Were you disappointed that that's all he was there,
because that was another disappointment of this movie for me
is and for me if you go back and watch Room,
they showed a lot in the trailers. They showed that
whole volcano sequence. They should Chris pat saving that girl
the dinosaur, like a lot of the bigger scares they showed.
For me, that's the same thing I really like Spaderman
Homecoming to go listen to our review, Like I was
down on that quite a bit because I knew, like, Oh,
this is happening, that's happening, and that's what many times
with this movie I felt it was a little predictable
because I'm like, oh, this part of the trailer hasn't
happened yet, and clearly because you know Island or Mansion,
there's only two sets, so you know where they're gonna go.
And then plus anytime there's a big thing about to happen,
I was like, Okay, here comes Pratt, here comes that.
So that's that's one another thing for me that I
think kind of sad the experience because trailers do that
a lot this time. But where you disappointed all of
you and Malcolm because like for me, I don't know
if he could have fit anywhere into the movie war
unless they did to me more of the beginning of
talking about should these dinosaurs exist or not? You know
where they just kind of have him as a to
start in a book and the movie. So I didn't
mind him. I think as far as you know, the
scenes in the trailer seemed a little bit more kind
of mellow when a lot of.
Speaker 3: The stuff he says and the trailers seem very cheesy
and that sort of stuff. But I feel when we
was talking in the courtrooms, it was a lot of
new lines that and stuff that he didn't actually say
in the trailers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because a lot of stuff in the trailers just
felt did he ever say Life finds Away? No, no, no, no,
I wanted them to. I'm fine with them not saying
that because cliche. Yeah, a little cliche. So I think
they just had him say that stuff for the trailers. Yeah. Yeah.
So one thing that I will I want to bring
up because you're talking about stuff that they did that
you really liked, and I thought you were going to
bring this up, but maybe you like and I think
you do. But for me, tell me why as a
Jurassic Park fan, that we need a human clone around I,
because that for me was a big I didn't feel
as earned. I didn't feel we needed this and for
them to do this thing at the end with her
releasing the dinosaurs and they were like, oh they're alive,
just like me, Like, I still think you could have
done that with just a little kid. A little kid
could have seen these dinosaurs, like you could have had
still that same little kid watch blues video, feel for
these dinosaurs and then let them go. Because I didn't
feel like you need a clone thing. I didn't feel
like it's gonna play in anything, unless, like some people
have worried, they are gonna do those like high red
human clones and I don't want that, Like I just
like I don't want them actually to ever mention she's
a clone ever. Again, I just I did feel was
needed and we didn't really go over with it, and
they only maybe they did because that whole like the
Hammond rip off guy, and I hated him because like
it was just I hate and that's right anyway, I
hate any characters that were like there the whole time
but we've never heard a word of them, We've never
seen them on screen, but apparently for the first four movies,
this is a guy that was tied to Hammond and
he hasn't even Hammond's fucking like cane, and like I
just felt like a discount. I hated it. I hated
that so much like I wanted like it just felt like,
because Hammond's not alive the actor, we need to stand
in form and it's like that. I didn't like that,
like find a different way. I hate characters that exist
but don't exist, you know. So but yeah, so you know,
I am going to talk about the the huge we
have a human clone now, and.
Speaker 3: I mean I definitely they could have done a larger
you know, kind of cameo Easter Egg you know, with
who she is or who her mother was.
Speaker 1: I feel like that being said, like, I definitely don't think.
Speaker 3: They needed to throw a clone girl into the story,
But as far as the story goes, I definitely can understand.
You know, if you're able to clone like sixty five
million year old dinosaurs and you also are the subject
or the victims of someone who's lost your daughter, and
you have the ability to apply your technology to that scenario,
I mean, I definitely don't see why, you know, you
wouldn't if it's emotionally.
Speaker 1: Complex, you know, yeah, well oh yeah, but maybe they
should jump into that in the movie. But they didn't.
It's just she's just a clone, that's all. It was
all pillow talk. Well that's so. The thing is, though,
when they clone the dinosaurs, they get like really specific
signs of how they did it, and I feel like
you couldn't. I feel like they'd almost need to do
that with cloning humans because I feel like cloning exact
same version of human, like they used what is it
was it frog dea.
Speaker 3: Well, the dinosaur was incomplete. It was incomplete genome in
DNA from mosquitoes. So that's right, Yeah, got a little
and I had to fill in the sequence gaps with
obviously frog DNA, that's why they were dinosaurs, but they didn't.
Speaker 1: Look fully like real dinosaurs. So I guess he just
went to his daughter's dead body and oh yeah, it
would have been one hundred and ten percent of a
clone like percent legal. Well, I mean at that time
in the nineties, why is she that age? Then? Still
I don't know, because I'm sure all of characters that
we don't know where they are because I don't because
if they would have been driven apart, then maybe when
it Lost World came out in ninety when did it
come on ninety eight?
Speaker 3: Lost World ninety seven, Jurassic Parking one ninety three, Lost
World ninety seven, and just Part three twosan one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so if yeah, nineteen ninety seven. So if let's
say it's nineteen ninety seven, like because that's when Hamm
was alive, maybe something him there drove them apart. She
should be much older than she is. I feel unless
she's like aging Slawer, but like she's like, well, I
guess she's why maybe supposed to be a ten year
old girl. I guess this is probably go ten years old,
So I get well, no, actually it would be two
thousand and seven, so that doesn't make any sense. So
that was another thing. I didn't understand the logistics of
how this girl existed or like did he just cone
her recently? Because if he did, then you know, like
why Hammon was dead, you know, like he wouldn't have
guarret like he had no say in it. So mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hopefully something they'll get into a little bit
more because there's definitely a little bit of a gray
area there, like when is she born?
Speaker 1: When? What did she go through with Hammond and all
that stuff? Well, we won't know from his perspective. I
just know I feel like, just yeah, I feel like
if we didn't need the gray area there, we wouldn't
have any gray area if it wasn't a human clone
side that was and I just I used didn't think
it was that point and anything. Last, you do you
feel in this movie that is this oh what is
his character's name? Don't tell me? Owen Owen and Claire,
I was trying to remember, do you feel they need
to be broken up for this movie?
Speaker 3: I think, you know, for a humorous standpoint, it was good.
I mean, it's been three years, so they broke up,
and obviously I think it was funny how they just
sneaked it in there, like how he just wanted to
live in his trailer and she just wasn't okay with that, and.
Speaker 1: He was building the house.
Speaker 3: He's building the house. Yeah, but I like throughout the whole.
Speaker 1: Thing, you know, they're just kind of build up on
how like.
Speaker 3: They still like each other obviously, And I thought it
was good for the story. I thought it was kind
of cute moments and stuff between the two of them.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't I didn't mind it. I think
they're getting back together. Well yeah, I think so. They
like kids and all that stuff. I I I'm the
reverse where I think it would have been better for
me of they are in a relationship and this just
could have been more of a like strengthening of the relationship.
Even the lines when he's like, oh, like if I die,
just remember like you brought me here. Like, I think
all those lines still could have been said if they
were dating. Because for me, my problem was that we
end the movie ends the exact same way Jurassic World was,
right where they go through this big, long traumatic experience,
like like literally a Drafts World start with, they kind
of went on a few dates, they had some chemistry,
but it didn't work out. Then they have these adventures
and now there are a couple, and that's exactly what
happened in this movie. So for me, it was another
like we've kind of done this already. So I hope
in the third one there will be fully together.
Speaker 3: Because the adventures that keep the relationship intact.
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, maybe maybe it's time to change that up. Yeah,
so I'll give to the floor in the villain, what
you thought about him? Do you remember his name? No,
but I will find it out. I feel, you know,
he's very much like a a more cooler version of
the u John Hammond's nephew from the Lost World. Okay,
fair enough, the little loser guy. Yeah, I can't remember
his name. Yeah, I feel like he's a cooler version
of that. And I like the whole idea.
Speaker 3: You know, them wanting him wanting to you know, bring
in Claire and then transfer the islands to the dinosaurs
to the island and all that stuff, which is a
brilliant plan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was genius. But he wants money,
so no, and uh, he wants money. He wants money
and h but.
Speaker 3: That means said, you know, I think he was definitely
slow at times. And you know, he may not be
my most favorite villain of the year. I mean, he's
no Fat House of the Year, I guess so.
Speaker 1: But you know, he he did his job and he's
definitely dead, so yeah, he won't be coming back. No, yeah, no.
I just feel like he was just there, just did
his job.
Speaker 3: And uh, I mean, as far as the real villains go,
I mean, I feel like the h his.
Speaker 1: Name was Eli Mills, Eli Mills, all right.
Speaker 3: I feel like I don't know, between his relationship with
like the Discount Hammond, it definitely feels like it was unhealthy.
Speaker 1: And I mean there's no way if I.
Speaker 3: Was sick and sitting in bed, I could tell a younger, buff,
buff guy to you know, pick up the phone call
the police to get himself arrested. I mean, I personally,
I wouldn't. You know, he's obviously been sleeping and he's
got the drugs connected to him, so he's a little hazy.
But you know, you don't tell a criminal to call
the cops on themselves. So that's the one takeaway I
had from this movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I that whole situation really bugged me their relationship
because one I didn't buy I know, he's sick and
everything like that, but they didn't me play him off
as sick enough to not like to not fully be there.
And when Eli is doing all this stuff in his house,
like literally doctor who is fucking losing his mind being
crazy pants down there while he's just up there, like
being sick, doing his stuff, and even at the point
when he does, like the daughter tells him and then
he finds out and then he's like, do you think
you'd get away with this like in my own home?
And it's like, well, he has been the entire movie
and this is so dumb, and then he goes to
call the cops and then he just once he got
the pillow for me, I couldn't believe it, Like he
kills him with the pill and it just felt so
sob aubera and cheesy. But I just I didn't understand
the logistics of him pull out, Like the plan is
classic loss ruler, Okay, they're gonna make a fortune off
these dinosaurs, but I didn't get the logistics of him
literally getting the dinosaurs there under this guy's nose, not
telling him any of these plans, and like how, like
how does it work out? Okay, the second he dies
that he gets that's not how it works late gen.
When someone dies, there's months, especially if this was like
this guy who was like a millionaire, maybe a billionaire,
there would be months of like moving over assets to
this guy or anything like that. But like the second
he died, he's like, I'm in control, I'm the guardian
on this, and I was like, that's not the way
this world works. Like he didn't just get everything like
right off the bat, so like that was moving really quick,
and I didn't understand how all this could be happening
in the bidding, Like it was all I know, it
was like illegal stuff, but like it felt so over
the top illegal that I couldn't get into it. It
felt like a doctor evil plan at times. And I
hated that that villain guy he was I don't know,
just not the I don't know if it was an
acting thing. I just was I was not into. But
it was that relationship he had with what's the discount Hammon?
I don't remember it discount hand, yeah, but yeah, I
did not like that at all. And like the stuff
that it was constantly being strange when there's that maid
there or whatever. She felt like at one point she
was kind of with them when he like literally takes
the girl in front of her, just throws her in
the room and then she just stands there and does nothing.
But then when that guy dies, she's like, oh, well,
I want to take after the little girl, like she
needs somebody. But it's like he literally just saw this
dude like arm toss her in the room and lock
the door, and he's just like she doesn't leave, and
like she's like, oh whatever. Like there's just so many
red flags going on for all these characters that I
was there, like I could find it believable that no
one was saying like she should call the cops, she
should do something like I don't know. So I was
not a fan of was Vine. I was missing Vincent
Jhoffer for the first one who wasn't the Grace And
even though he's not like a villain, I do not
like what they did they continue to do with Henry
Wu because I feel like his motives might be about
a kick he wants to be. He has the David
Prometheus creator or complex where he wants to be a
creator or anything like that. But I just feel like
those scenes when they reveal a WU and he's walking
down and he's one, and I feel like, whether it's
the choice, the director, the writing, or the actor, or
somebody's like making him feel really over the top and
he's the only thing these diners are alive. I might
have to reminds me when Dylan as this fucking little
British voice, he's like this says what I.
Speaker 2: Am and like like I can't do it all, so
shout to Dyl must be like that's how he was
appy and I couldn't buy believable when even Jurassic World
was like the thing is okay.
Speaker 1: He is like a creator, but he's very much like Dave,
where like he's like evil, like trolling his mustache type
of creator guy. You know, like he's heightened over as
far as being like a little evil, like he shouldn't.
We're past the point now where he gonna be like, yeah,
I still just want to create stuff. Even at the
end of this movie, it's like, hey, these dinosaurs are
gonna be run wild and he's about all this DNA,
but it's like, what are you gonna do? Like why
are you gonna want to keep making these things when
these things are just like destroying the place, and I
wish they would get in that more. But he just goes,
I'm a creator and I want to create. So that's
what I thought about the villains. Uh, Doctor Wu I
I definitely I like his character. I think he's just
he's like his character, just like he's an OG character
that is around. No, because I mean he's OG, so
it's it is cool. But I do like his character.
I mean, if I could train him for a different
OG character, I'd bring Grant in easily, no questions asked.
But that's a big one for me. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know what they do with
Drastic World three, but I would really be down for
them to bring the whole gang back and if they're
trying to survive. Even though I was not a fan
of this movie and I don't know, if I need
more Jurassic Park in my life, I will. I would
be down to see doctor Grant again one more time.
Speaker 3: Doctor Grant, Billy, Paul Kirby, and the whole Jurassic Park
three cast.
Speaker 1: Oh no, Paul Kirby, I don't I don't mean Paul
Kirby back. I need Billy. Yeah, maybe Billy so he
can just keep stealing stupid eggs and what not. But no,
with Doctor Wu, I like his whole ideology of just
you know, wanting to create these things and he just
feels like he doesn't feel like he owns them, but
he feels like, you know, he's given them, He's made these.
Speaker 3: Perfect things, and it's like it's his work of art
that he loves and he's passionate about.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, you know, he's
okay with people. You know, he gets paid, and he's
okay with other people, you know, taking his perfect pieces
of art and displaying them or you know, using them,
but making you know, for the world to embrace and appreciate.
And that being said, you know, if something isn't set
that way and it's not being used or appreciated in
the way that he intends it to be, he'll lash out,
like he did obviously with Mills. And I like seeing
that side of Doctor Who when he was freaking out saying,
you know, the indoor raptor is not ready, this is
a prototype. You can't sell this thing.
Speaker 3: And again, you know, it's not coming from him being
scared like for the people of the public or you know,
anything like that, or even the fate of the dinosaur.
If for him it was his work of art that
was not completed. Yeah, and it just it was like,
even though what he's doing is like a crime against
nature for him, I mean to put this prototype and
finished piece of art out there, that is the real
crime of nature to him.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get an ad break and then you're
gonna be right back to the episode. I know. I
think I think this movie did justice. And I like
seeing him in the lad gathering all this stuff and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's exactly shot this Jurassic World. That was one of
my annoyance.
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 1: My one thing though, is I'm wondering, like is he
still employed with jen I don't know, because like there
is on this dude's house from mine, Yes, yeah, I
just I.
Speaker 3: Want to know, like where's Engine right now at this
point because Jurassic World introduced engine again and they're they
had their hand in the whole Raptor program and that
being said, you know the Mazzarini Corporation.
Speaker 1: From the first movie.
Speaker 3: They said that last year they profited about eight hundred million,
and now this year their lawsuits equal just over eight
hundred million.
Speaker 1: So the company is fucked. Well, no, they're breaking even
break They made a hundred millions, lost eight hundred million.
O they're just had a lump sum. Maybe you know, yeah,
yeah it does. But I'm just I want to know more,
and I want to know, like what is engine up too?
Because according to doctor Grant, you know, you're always you're
wondering what else they're up to. So according to doctor Grant, yeah,
then as far as I guess we got, we already
talked about wherever we talk about them a little bit,
and then obviously their side kicks and what not. Yeah,
lots of humor. For me, you just personally didn't work.
Chris Brown, who's someone I like watching, I didn't really
enjoy that much in this movie. I think for me,
the biggest thing is I hate that we have and
this is not just Drassic World thing. I hate that
and they set it up so worked in this movie,
but I was not a fan. The scene that every
like scientist nowadays has to be like a badass army
guy as well, like that happening Calm where Tom Hilson's
like he's like a tracker. Oh, but he's also spent
six years in the CIA or like whatever. It is,
like same thing. So they said that with the last movie,
I really disliked that scene he when they're the indoor
rappers like Gang Release went on. He's in the auction
thing and he's just taking out guards like left, right
and center, like he's whipping chair. Is training, right, I know,
I know, but like that's where for me, I'm not
a fan of that in Jurassic Park movies. I hate
that nowadays in every movie scientists they have to be
a bad But he's not really a scientist though, but
for a trainer, he couldn't just be he could just
be a trainer. Well, originally he worked, and I can
be totally long shot in this, but from when I remember,
I think he worked. I think he was a Navy
seal and.
Speaker 3: You worked in the Navy, and he worked then and
specialized like a specialty was working with animals and that
sort of stuff, and yeah, that's why they brought him
into the RAPT program.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just thought that scene was a little too heightened.
He's literally just doing these huge movies, I said, at
one point he just literally whipped a chair at somebody.
He's flipping them over. Was a little bit for me
and clar you know, good thing that they didn't put
on heels to this movie. I think. I think they're
both fine. Like I said, they don't really have much.
They don't really develop at all because Chris Pratt's storyline is, hey,
he loves blues, He's going we get blue ites. Okay,
Well we knew that Claire kind of had her development
in the last movie, where she was like, you know,
a cold, selfish, like just businesswoman, too caring about the dinosaurs.
This whole movie is just caring about this dinosaur. She
makes that choice and now that killed them. But for me,
that's not much of a big development thing. It's just
like a, Okay, it makes sense because they would hurt
the world. And even that we don't get into that much.
I was not a fan of those side characters whatsoever,
the girls, the girl and some of those scenes over
there were some scenes that really bugged me and I
hated that. I didn't hate the guy actor, but I
hate what they did with him on the Volcano Island
or just the island of They did that scream like
his hyphpits screen once was fine with me, maybe twice,
but the fact that he did it probably about five
to six times it was really great and on me.
So yeah, I did not I did not like them all.
I was kind of hoping they would die or we
could cut scenes of them and Mo they all.
Speaker 3: Had a lot of her cut scenes or her scenes
kind she's a bisexual character, she is, but they left
in the scene that's identical to the Lost.
Speaker 1: World, I know where she's repairing a dinosaur leg and
stuff like that. So yeah, I don't know. I think that,
you know, between the two of them, they didn't they
didn't have enough screen time to warn them being annoying.
Speaker 3: And I love the tech guy. I think he was hilarious.
You know, he just couldn't stop saying, is that the
t Rex is at the t Rex? I feel like,
you know, if I was in that situation, I'd be
saying the same thing, is that the t Rex, I'd
be totally freaked out.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, I I like Claire in this movie. She
I definitely I felt for a character. It was definitely
stepped down what she was doing.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, you know, she was making a good, solid paycheck,
probably at the park.
Speaker 1: And now she's oh, I thought you meant okay, it's
just the see me. I think he meant like the
characters as far as you like her as well. And
that's I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't clue in this, But that's Gwen Stacy, Yeah.
Speaker 1: The original. He used her so well. But yeah, no,
I I liked Owen Grady as well. I really really
loved the scene and it felt really cool to see
doctor Grant's Sorry Taylor is a bunch of the tables
for no reason.
Speaker 3: You remember the cars, the tour cars in Jurassic Park one.
You remember what the car Blue jumped onto for the
lava scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the one that t Rex flipped over
the paddock and uh, Tim and doctor Grant were inside
the cars that fell down the tree or whatever. Those kids,
I don't know. I wish they went answered that question.
But yeah, I love that scene, getting to see the car.
I love those old school, you know kind of things
like throwbacks. I love that lavas scene when Chris Pratt
was waking up and he was just crawling away or
rolling away. I think, did you enjoy that? Not at all? Oh?
I don't. I'm not a big fan, though in general,
I think the only one people you can say, I'm
the nady at all you want, so give it to me,
But I think Marvel is the only one that for
me has got in the life like life threatening situation,
we can make a joke as they build those characters
up where that that's where sometimes this movie for me,
it felt too much like a bug spuddy cartoon, like
the way he's like and then like his face would
be like it was too comedic and it's like this
is love and like it went on for a little
too long. And then there was this random kid beside
us who just loved the scene and that great army
more because I was just like little Jimmy, He's just
laughing so loud. He had an annoying laugh, and I
was like, this is a funny kid, but you know,
and that's it. Other I I'm big downer, and other
people that I was with didn't enjoy the movie. But
there's many people around the movie that like in the
movie that did enjoy it. So I took that, but yeah,
I did not. I didn't know. I didn't find much
of the humor. Stuff made me laugh, and no, I'm
for business movie. So yeah, I did not like that
lave of thing, but clearly you liked it. Oh yeah,
that was good. Yeah, oh yeah. Do you have any
other big points to show, because I have a quick
list of things like grind my gears a little bit.
Just continue to knock on my annoyance through this movie.
But yeah, one thing I'll throw out. I love the
beginning of the movie. I think it was Yeah, I
was sorry. Yeah, the whole introduction is just it was
dark and cringey. I feel like, you know, if this
was a step for like a video game, I would
totally be down to go to like a broken down
park with the dinosaurs running around, and uh, it's just
it was stormy and everything, and I thought, I just
got eerie feelings of just the whole submarine going into
the I don't know what, I guess the pen or
the enclosure, the Moses sore enclosure, and it just it
was so freaky with the Moses sore above them and
everything like that. And well, I think that scene work
because we can talk about this. I imagine it worked
for you. But they were talking they were gonna try
and bring a lot more horror elements back to this
I felt like other than that, it didn't really work.
And I feel like even the what is the hybrid
Raptor again indoor the end of Rapper, they tried it,
which they were just doing Jurassic Park in the kitchens
or things. They tried that, but I didn't find it
too scary because the di that dinosaur was so big
that I felt like you could have just destroyed stuff.
And God, by the way, like one thing that really
bugged me is when they're this dinosaur is just destroying
everything left, right and center, and then that girl gets
in like the laundry shoot and closes it and the
dinosaur can't get through that. It's just like head butts.
It's like oh, and it gives up and goes away.
You know. Like that's where for me they tried the
horror aspects, but near the end in the middle they
made it so heightened, like everything was so fantastical and
like action wise, they tried to bring it back down.
For me, it didn't work. Other than the beginning it worked,
but did the other stuff? Did you get any more
horror vibes throughout the movie for you?
Speaker 3: Or the indoor Raptor gave me like it had a
good few moments, like in the dark and they were
like running around like.
Speaker 1: The fake little uh I guess replica sets or whatever
stars and all that, and for the.
Speaker 3: Most part, like whatever scene the indoor Raptor was in
usually it just I felt like it was a mix
between the horror and the action that they were going for.
And I mean even when he was falling down with
Blue on him, like I actually was like leaning forward
to my seat thinking, like, remember they both gonna die or.
Speaker 1: I thought they might go. Yeah, So I mean I
thought that was great.
Speaker 3: And I mean that being said, I think the most
horror feeling that I got was definitely at the very
beginning of the movie. Yeahut like all the rest, like
again like just with the Moses source setup and then
just going to that guy doing the computer work and
the lightning would flash and the t Rex was in
the distance coming closer and closer. I thought that was fantastic,
and him running just I was on the edge of
my seat thinking this feels so much like Jurassic Arc.
He's running and the t rexes behind him. He's trying
to get the frickin' ladder and he camped and then
they're just they were willing to cut it loose and
let the guy die or whatever. Then the moses Or
jumps out, and then the t rex is standing there,
and just when the gate didn't close and the Mosestor
gets out.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: I would have liked, actually to have seen a little
bit more catastrophe than the mosesare would have been causing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess I'll be saying that for the
next one. Yeah, yeah, which that'll be nice. I mean,
how do those things? How do those things produce other dinosaurs?
If there's only one t rex? How does how do
more t rexes happen? Because I would imagine in my
world of the Jurassic World three, it's like a plan
of the apes where it's like, okay, you know these
apes uprise and they grow and growing population where this
like they what's that t rex gonna mate with? Well,
the whole thing with the first Jurassic Park was that
this uh you know what does he say? Life finds
a way or whatever. It's because they they filled the
DNA sequences with frogs, right, and then frogs have the
ability to transa asexually reproduce. That's how the dinosaurs would
do we're doing it. The raptors did it, and the
movies and everything, so good point. I don't know if
that's something they they couldn't have to if they want
the world to be if you want more than one
t rex, you're gonna have to do that then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it could happen, like if you look at
you know, Jurassic Park two, the Lost World, the dinosaurs
obviously didn't have to do that because they thrived in
their conditions, you know, they were they were male and
female dinosaurs and all that stuff, So they were.
Speaker 1: Thriving, all right, they were thriving.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they didn't have to, but they never actually
identify as if like doctor Wu even came to terms
with the fact that all the dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: Can can breed by themselves or whatever.
Speaker 3: And I guess it never happened in Jurassic World, so
maybe it was something that they eventually fixed and they rectified.
But that being said, as far as I'm concerned, it's
the same t rex from Jurassic Park one, so that
same t rex could reproduce itself.
Speaker 1: As for all the more modern dinosaurs that were made,
I don't know, I'm sure that would be the same. Yeah,
So that would be a great setup. I mean, you're
absolutely right.
Speaker 3: I definitely got Plant of the Apes vibes from from
Jurassical Fall and Kingdom.
Speaker 1: I love that because I love the Apes trilogy. I
didn't get that from this movie. I got that from
the setup because this movie is just them in a mansion,
you know. I want to see when it's like them
versus the line which the line in real life would
run away, the line would roar back, the line's not stupid.
I could see this huge thing like no, I'm out
of there, you know, ur stuff like when they're surfing
and they see like the dinosaurs, they're like, I would
think I'd like the first on like the montage of
the movie, just to show like how the world maybe
collapse with these dinosaurs or whatnot, and then maybe we're
into I hope it's kind of like a somewhat almost
like apocalyptic sort of world going on. Like I'm not
sure how you could get that, because obviously Plant Apes
did that. There was a disease that well spread. So yeah,
it depends how fast the things go to ship because
if you look at the Lost Role Dress Part two,
if they didn't get that t Rex back into the
boat that helicopter was ready to blow its brains out. Well, yeah,
that's the beast thing. Where I thought at the end
of the day, when they maybe just decide, hey, we
got a nuke wherever they were, you know, like, yeah,
I think you know, if they want to dispatch these dinosaurs,
they'll do it easily. The one thing that I think
would be hard, you.
Speaker 3: Know, if you got like blue the gloss raptor, that's
gonna be probably one of the only things that'll be
really difficult.
Speaker 1: To get or to kill. But I feel like, you know,
there's a lot of these black market dealers that did
get away with their dinosaurs, so you got that take
into account. But I mean there's there's there's still a
lot of stories that they gotta they gotta cover I
because that's where I feel like you gotta somehow set
up an apocalyptic world because I feel like I don't
know how they can do it. But I feel like,
even though t Rex is huge and could do a
lot of damage, I still feel like us as a society,
with our army, we could take down a t Rex.
Now you know, three or four tanks. The t Rex
would do one tank. Well, yeah, would be able to
get was gonna hit some credit go on.
Speaker 3: So like when you would you say it wouldn't be
able to get into one tank? Get into one tank?
What do you mean getting ripped apart or anything?
Speaker 1: Okay, I think man like, no, no, of course it couldn't. Yeah,
So that's why I fact they need to find some
sort of ways. I'm not sure if that's like countries
are at war with each other because of this, I'm
not sure. Or maybe maybe that's where doctor Wi will
get into it, where he has all that stuff and
maybe they'll make more dinosaurs and then you know, they're
running around. But I kind of hope that happened some way.
They should do like a Planet Ape style sort of
So a couple of things I'll shut out.
Speaker 3: I love the more heavy use of animatronics in this movie.
Speaker 1: Was there m h Yeah? Okay? I wasn't sure that
the interraptors all CGI. He's all CGI. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think the only like the heaviest moments that I
noticed was like when they were getting the t rex
blood and blue being operated on like lots of those moments.
I loved the the use of the animatronics.
Speaker 1: I feel like I just rewatched Urissic.
Speaker 3: Park one actually a couple of days ago, and I
wish that the t Rex and so many more scenes
had that like it looks like I get that CGI,
but it looks so different from the original Jurassic Park
two Rex.
Speaker 1: I love the look of the original Drastic Park t Rex,
and I wish that those animatronics could have been applied
to this movie in an even heavier sense. You know.
Speaker 3: Even the Raptor having so many moments of it being
animatronic was just fantastic. Yeah, But then again, I loved
what they brought and they displayed in this movie. I
think it was great and it was a lot more
than what they did in Jurassic World. One moment that
really kicked the crap out of me was when they
were leaving on the boat and the I don't even know.
Speaker 1: What that was called, either a chamasaurus or not a brachiosaurus.
I'm not sure what it was. It was the long neck. Ay,
just him dying, Oh yeah, that was that was the
best part of the movie. Not because he was dying,
but that was very well shaw in the score. So
that was that was That was the part that I thought, Okay,
that was a great part, so that was very well done.
So gosh, yeah, No, I love the boat scene.
Speaker 3: I love the whole vibe of then just going to
the island and just everything in Ruckus and such. I
love the I felt like I was holding my breath
when they were in the javersphere and they were underwater.
I love the Carnotaurus just getting taken out by the
t Rex and as soon as that bang went, the
t Rex just snapped out of it and ran off.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess I don't know why. I still feel
like it paused for a little too long to not
kill Chris Brown and the other so that kind of
bugged me a little bit. But I guess the bang
scared it, I guess.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: I just I love seeing all the whole new variety
of carnivores. Jurassic Park has always been you know, the velociraptors, compies,
and you know t Rex, and then they add you know,
your spin of Saurus, your Seratosaurus. But it was finally
nice to see, you know, we got like Taurus, and
we got uh, what's the other guy, Alisaurus. There's so
many other new variety dinosaurs in this movie that was
just so good.
Speaker 3: It just wasn't the same old, same old. Yeah, I
was hoping for us Dinosaurus.
Speaker 1: That probably was a bit of a long shot. Oh yeah,
anything else, not that I can think of right now. No, No,
these are a few things that grind my gears a
little bit. And when they were running around the end
chase scene, there's a gun, Chris Pratt sees it. He
slides to get the gun, and he gets and then
he just stands right back up and start walking. I
don't know why he slid, And that's why for me,
once I started not like this movie, there's little things
like that started to stick out. So I don't know
why he slid. I don't know how they got that
glass ball open from Drastic World with just his little
pocket knife, you know, like we saw in the last
movie the Endomous Trucks, correct like throw that thing around
like nothing in its state. And all he did was
I too. I took it that he he wouldn't put it, No,
but I think I took it as he put it inside,
like the like the lining part, you know, yeah, where
it closes, and he just kind of managed to wedge it.
So I just popped open. I just felt like the
knife was so small that that that couldn't happen. I'm like, oh,
how are they gonna get out of this? And then
we ripped up that knife and he just did That's like, man,
a t rex's tooth couldn't do this, you know, But
we in the Jimmy Fountain said it's supposed to stop
a fifty caliber bola. But his gun went through it.
Oh yeah, I guess he was packing hard. He was
packing hard. So there and there's a moment that I
didn't really understand, and it's a moment you really have
to get. You've probably just seen the movie. So it's
when Chris Pratt gets tranked and then the girl, like
the little sidekicked girl, she like sees the gun and
she gets the gun and she like pulls the gun
on them all and they're all hey, and then she's
like you need me, you know, or the dinosaur is
gonna die or whatnot, and then they'll put down their guns,
and then she puts down her gun. So I never
understood why she actually held them up at any point,
because they weren't gonna kill her. If she would just
say hey, I think they would have killed her. I
think they they didn't kill Pratt. They just like, you know, well, the.
Speaker 3: Guy happened to be holding the trank things, so I
think they just happened. If he had a real gun,
he would have probably shot him regardless, but.
Speaker 1: Well, now he would die. That was the other thing
about the plan. I didn't know, like him bringing them
because I know they had to get blue, but I
don't know why. Okay, you could trank them, but when
the villain. That's why he felt very well known to
me because the film's like I didn't want to do
this ball It's like, yeah, but you could have said, hey,
like trank them, but you don't got to leave them die.
We're literally like we're gonna leave these people die and
commit murder because like people will eventually figure this out.
So I thought that was a weird t Well.
Speaker 3: I think if everything went smoothly, it would have been
a different story.
Speaker 1: Like if Chris Pratt didn't freak out, then I think
it would have been fine.
Speaker 3: But they were always living Claire in that little base
out but they could have made whatever kind of story
they wanted.
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah. Then other thing for me that we
talked about on the trailer, which I'm not sure. It
seems like you might like you now, so I gotta
question you. Is the crisp talking at the dinosaur and
whistling at the dinosaur to do stuff? I don't know
because even thought when we did the trailer review, you
said you would be a fan of Blue, was doing that.
To me, this is a dinosaur that's untrained by him
doing that, and I that for me another moment, I
was like, oh man, we're doing this, and I couldn't believe.
Speaker 3: I just took it as you know, he the dinosaur.
It wasn't being controlled or told what to do. It
was just it was drawn to the whistling and it
pissed it off. And it was just ramming where the
sound was coming from because it was that loud noise. Yeah,
but I mean if it was if it was blue,
I mean, it would be a different story. I mean,
I wouldn't like it if it was blue. I mean, well,
I guess I wouldn't like it if you know it
was Chris Prett saying that line.
Speaker 1: Are you thinking what I'm thinking? But he says dumb,
He says, edit it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the dinosaur doesn't really respond and act like
I know what you're thinking like like a cheesy version
of that, Like if they're going for him saying that's blue,
it would have been totally cheesy because Blue, you know,
no understands Chris Pratt to a degree. But that would
have just it would have been pointless. But him saying
it to a dinosaur that doesn't have the same intelligence
as a lost raptor. But he's just saying it just
because it fits with his cocky attitude, says that he whistles,
gets it in the elevator and sends it's on his marriage.
Speaker 1: I just felt like it was a little too convenient
that anytime he'd whistle, the thing would just come and
hit the wall, hit the wall, Like, I don't know,
we don't know if that's the thing. Maybe, but it's
kind of like, uh, well, did you do you know
if you like, he whistle to a dog, dogs gonna
come running right maybe, but like I don't know if
the dog's gonna go through the wall.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that thing obviously hated whistling a lot,
and it has a very thick skull.
Speaker 1: Pretty convenient. Oh yeah, and my last thing, how did
the why the indoor raptor fake passing out when I'm
gonna assume that the end rappers never passed out before,
like when I got train shot.
Speaker 3: Oh, because I knew it would get out and knew
but gets shot.
Speaker 1: Why is that dinosaurs in my version of this movie
that he's been that cage and like bring it out.
In my version, this dinosaur has never been shot. So
how the dicea or no if he gets shot by
tranks to pretend that he's knocked out, Because this dinsaer
doesn't know what this does, right, So maybe it's been
shot before or something like that, but it hasn't. That
for me is like a little bit I don't know.
They're trying to make this dinosaur almost like a bit
too smart.
Speaker 3: For They definitely could have, you know, enlighten the audience
a little bit more in that sense, but I just
took it as this dinosaur it either knew to play
tranked or new to play dead, I'm not sure. Or
that being said, maybe the trank actually did hit it
and it could feel its effects and it wasn't powerful
enough to actually take hold, but it knew what the
guy was obviously doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it knew that, oh, this bullet was putting me
to sleep I'm just gonna play off like that. Yeah,
so all right, anything else before we do our final thoughts.
Speaker 4: On the raining?
Speaker 1: No, I think I'm good for final thoughts. Okay, I
will go.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I did not find much enjoyable all though this movie.
I like that scene when we talked about that dinosaur
the long neck, you know there and dying. That was
a very emotional scene because you know, it's an animal
dying and it was very well done. I liked the
flashbacks and the scenes they had with Pratt and Blue,
and for me, that was about it. I didn't have.
I didn't have much that I enjoyed about this movie.
There's a few things here and there. I guess cinematography
was alright because Dan brought that. I was like, yeah,
it was all right. There are some good shots. But
for me, it's kind of the thing of like all
movies for me and them, rating start at a five,
and it's something like if I give a movie a
ten out of ten, and I might be like, you
look at Black Panther and you look at uh, I
think it's Cobby. I always forgot. I'll say that guy
from Getta his name Cobby, the guy who's the turn
Code with the Rhinos and Black Panther he anyway, So
that for me Black Panther ten ten movie, But I
still give it like that's a little minor flaw of like, yeah,
he turns really quickly. But for me, it's this thing
of like there's so much good it kind of outweighs
the bad so it can't hurt that score. Or this
is kind of that thing for me. Or it had
that base of a five, it starts to go down
and then there's little things that just for me personally
starting to ignore me that I couldn't keep giving it
a five or something like that because it's just like
kept bringing it down down. So I would give this
a one out of ten for myself because of those
two things I liked. And there's a few good shots,
but I uh, I not enjoy this, and I will
never watch this again unless we have to do some
sort of contro. But I hope, I don't think we
need to do a retro for this. We can do
the first four and go from there. And yeah, and
I didn't even have Maybe if I see it again
one day, I can have like a so bad it's
good time. But I said, I compare this to pirates
where I don't want that from these movies. I want
to enjoy it. There's some reason when I go see
Rampage or two Rader when I'm not that in destined,
like I hope this is so bad it's good or
at least it's good. Where this is like, I want
it to be good to grade and for me, that
was not the case for for this go round. So
maybe Jurassic World three is gonna do it.
Speaker 3: So for me, I I was totally pulled in and
invested in this story from start to finish.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was there with these characters. I
felt like I was making these decisions with these characters.
And well maybe I like I said, I definitely think
that the first movie, Jurassic World did justice.
Speaker 3: It's in its own way, and this movie does justice
in other ways. I feel though that Jurassic World was
brought to us and it was great as a starter
film to pull all the original fans of Jurassic Park
in and bring in all the new fans and the
younger generation into this franchise. And I feel like we
have our drastic Park, lost world dress work three that's
good for you know, the generation us that were alive
at that time and could that like movies kind of
done like that. But I feel like the Durstic World,
Falling Kingdom has gone. It's gone in a very new direction.
Speaker 1: It's taken a lot of elements from the previous films,
but it's been set up and built to really attract
and pull in the not our generation, but the generation
now that's growing up.
Speaker 3: And I feel like, you know, we may hate it,
we may not like it, but I feel like it's
very much, very parallel to Star Wars at this point.
It's very very we got the Force Awakens, which is
it's a huge, you know, build up and takes qualities
like from the originals, just like you know Jurassic World did,
and you know, everyone loves it, and then you move
along and now we have a movie that's gone.
Speaker 1: It's taken elements, but it's gone in a bold new direction,
and you know, people like, we love it, we hate
it again. I think it sets it up for us
a new direction. But I don't think this movie is
a bold new direction because there's many things from Drafts,
Work three and This World that are in this. You know,
like this felt like this felt more of like a
setup movie. I'm trying to think of what would be.
It almost feels like some of the lesser Marvel movies
where it's like, we just made this movie, so we
get to the next one, you know, And that's almost
where I guess I have to do that, because I
guess you couldn't start the movie off of like a
ten minute like, oh, somehow the dinosaur's gone here. But
maybe that would have been good. Of like if we
just started with for me and maybe this happens the
next week. We started with Owen and it's like, oh,
the world's completely go to shit. We don't know why.
We're trying to figure that out, right, because there's also
apocalyptic movies that we never find out why the world
went to crap, you know, like just start the movie
off and have it like because I just feel like
we didn't. That was where my brothers I feel like
we didn't achieve anything other than we got to that ending.
But I almost wish we just started that ending. But yeah,
you know, but yeah, I feel like this whether moving
with these movies that they are built for the next generation.
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, we can forget that. We
feel like, you know, like, well, we didn't like the
movies or this and that. But then again, you know,
you said that, like you didn't like the movie, and
you like, oh, I liked the movie.
Speaker 1: I liked it. That's perfect. I'm lucky, but I feel like,
you know, it's just I gotta remember, you know that,
whether I like the movie or not, that these movies
are starting to be made for the next generation after
us that's growing up and you know that loves the dinosaurs.
And that's big.
Speaker 3: Because when I was walking out of the theater, there
were these two kids in front of me, and the
one kid said, I'd burned so many calories and the
mom said why because it's scary, and the kids said, yeah,
it was so good, like he was yeah. But you know,
I loved it because I could see little Taylor in
that moment, and I'm like, you know, like this this
kid is, you know, growing up now, getting his set
of Jurassic Park movies, and I think, you know, that's
that's fantastic.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 3: I got that, and this generation is getting that too,
and that's brilliant.
Speaker 1: So I I definitely enjoyed the movie.
Speaker 3: I think it had so many good scary scenes, tense scenes,
funny scenes and a good mix of you know, hot
dino hybrids in there that I really liked.
Speaker 1: Yikes. But I'm very much looking forward to seeing what
the third one brings and what we're gonna get out
of that. No hybrids, so that's a huge thing. Friends, dressing,
I gotta put one those in the chat. Yeah. I
love the score very much. I've listened to the soundtrack.
It's fantastic. Apple Music or Spotify yet no, oh my god,
I'm still work in progress. But it will happen. It'll happen.
I'll get that Apple Music soon. But I would have
to give this movie.
Speaker 3: I don't want to give it a ten out of
ten because I feel like it could do so much
better with certain moments. Okay, And you know, as much
as I love what this movie brought, I definitely I
wanted more of what the beginning of the movie had
throughout the rest of the movie. I guess because I
think the beginning sequence I was just so in love
with it, and I wouldn't have been everything like that. Well,
just like the very beginning horror scene, just how it up, Okay,
And that being said, even them just being on.
Speaker 1: The island, I would have liked a lot more of
that being on the island.
Speaker 3: But there are four movies of them all on n Land. Yeah,
I guess that's why I'm kind of going. But I
mean I did. I did three Jurassic Park marathons leading
up to this, Like I went intense, like I love
the three.
Speaker 1: So you watch the four movies back to back, three
separate times, back to back.
Speaker 3: Of course, when I got to the third time, I
kind of jumped around between movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't watch them all in order.
Have you ever done that with Star Wars the Machetti
order where you're supposed to watch uh one, two and
then or are you supposed to watch four or five?
And then you watch two and three and then you
watch six. No, I didn't understand why anyone would do that,
because it's supposed to be like because you get so
it's like obviously it's like Luke story, and then you
get their reveal Vader story, and then those two movies
are like flashbacks movies like how Vader got to this point?
And then the six one is the cap all off.
And the reason you'll watch Phantom Menace is because it's
Phantom Menace which I I don't know.
Speaker 4: You heard I did rewatch. I am rewatching it right now,
right now, you're watching it. Yeah, like literally when I
came over, you had last night. I was why I
said this to Dylan. I said, I'd never watched them again.
I don't really want to, but I watched Suicide.
Speaker 1: Squad and that remind me of you know, Will Smith
and her Harley, Quinn, Marcot, Robbi are grey in that movie,
and Ally's talk of obi Wan if I gotta see
If I want to see you McGregor's O we Wan,
the only way you can do that is watch the prequels. Yeah,
that's true. So I literally just wanted to watch the
obi Wan scenes. But I watched the watch the full thing.
So it's good. It's a good ride, it's a good run. Right,
But I would I'll give this movie a nine point five.
I I one point five. It did so much for
me in so many of the right ways. And I yeah,
I'm gonna go see it again next Tuesday. And it's
surprised you've not seen it again yet.
Speaker 3: I've been busy, actually, I have not been able to
crack down to it. I was gonna try and see
it because what's today, Today's Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I want to go see it.
Speaker 3: Yesterday Actually my dad was busy and I'm gonna take
him to see it. So I'm gonna take him see
it next Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Do your cinemia sign up and you can do that,
you know, the sendaia. Yeah, you know, maybe I will.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure you can hook Dylan into it
though or something like that.
Speaker 1: It does it work at both theaters or yeah, it
works at at the West Side. Why do you say
hook Dylan into I'm not trying. I'm not doing this
to try and get the five bucks I'm due. I
would like the five bucks. You get the five bucks too.
Gotta do this because I know we've seen and review
a lot of movies, so it might not be a
bad idea. It's it's tough because like if I get it,
you have If you get it, you have to do
three movies a month. And maybe because you already pay
for enough. So let's say, like like I said, for
someone like ant Man, where you pay for advance, then
even for another fifteen dollars, you could see three other movies.
So even that cheap Tuesday, you don't worry about being
a cheap Tuesday and then go on to cheap Wednesday
or Thursday. You know you'll have to plan out because
Taylor has a huge thing. I'm gonna bring this up
on the next afternoon with subscription services.
Speaker 5: Xbox game, I got Xbox finally got it sees have
you played it all? He just think that hal Jesus
the safe's and play. But like that took him so
long to get on Apple Music. This guy listens to
so many movies, setle tracks and scores that he could
be getting all for the same price. Season done that
same thing with Sina mea us. We are the people
that toasts podcasts have more reason to do that, to
get something where we.
Speaker 1: Could pay fifteen bucks and see three movie month and
tear sec I don't know likely a good topic. I'll
think of some combacks so that I don't know what.
You just reminded us of those guys that were just
like it's gonna take all our guns and like aliens
are coming. They have like the aliens vot come. No,
you have like a hot built somewhere where it's like
you have a code and like under like groundhod.
Speaker 3: If I have the money, I would do a bunker
one hundred and ten percent Bigfoot aliens. I watched the Doctors,
so there are between the two. Oh my no, that's good.
After nine topics, remember those, yeah.
Speaker 1: I will. I think that's why Taylor that he needs
the money for his undernund hatches, so he's like he's
not buying the subscription service. But I'm saying, think about me,
you know, because it's just like, you know, if you
want me to come see Robin and something like that,
you know, well, it's got my money either way, I know.
But I mean we still get there either way. Taylor, where
can they find this for? I said, in two days
will be a newscast and then after that we'll be
a man and our three year anniversary. So we got
some good casting on and then we got Comma Coon
coming up too, so I guess I should be pimping
that out. So Comic Con weekend I should do at
the beginning, damn kamic Co. On weekend, we'll have forecasts.
For sure, we're gonna have a Blade retrospective. I think
at that point we'll be on Blade Trinity because we're
gonna do be Blade two. I think next week maybe
we're gonna find out, but so a Blade movie will
be retrospective. We have the Superhero Draft, the twenty eighteen
edition if you want to get that right now, I
have a patron for a doll you can get that
because dyl Must is very close to getting some points.
So the thing is, I really hope we have about
We have literally a month left and if j Jil
Hall does not get casting, goodness because if a and
he won last year and he can repick a new person.
So I'm hoping at least doesn't happen until July. But
there's tons of fun cast one of our biggest episodes,
and then we'll be doing a podcast on the Friday
and the Saturday, I'm not sure how many there will be.
Friday is gonna be like a wrap up on all
the news of that day, and then Saturday is when
DC has their panel, and we're rumored to get an
Aucaman trailer on Jazam and he was some wonder one footage.
So there's no MCU, but there is Marvel TV and
there is DC and even like last year, like Stranger
Things had their trailer, Jigsaw had their first trailer, so
like we're so like there's gonna be other stuff we're
talking about. So the Friday and Saturday of comiccom we're
gonna be covering that and probably do some other shenanigans.
Maybe we'll do another after nine and that's where I'll
bring this stuff. But where can they fast for all
the shenanigans, because you're gonna want the describe as when
we got a big month ahead. Yeah, ladies and Joe,
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when the I voted during this cast, very notification was live.
It is a fucking crime that doctor Strange has made
it this far. I'm actually that's not your fall for
putting cap and iron Man. You should left the man
because I could have killed everybody. But like doctor Strange.
But yeah, go vote for Thor thor Gell. I vote
for Thor. He needs to win. Yeah, so DNA's gentleman.
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