WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:02.120 It's nice eyes with Dan Ray. 2 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:06.000 I'm going mazy Boston's News radio. 3 00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:11.480 And is football season, folks? Twenty to sixteen? Now Baltimore 4 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:14.880 had scored twenty to sixteen entering the fourth quarter as 5 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:19.199 the Chiefs lead Baltimore in the season opener. And oh, 6 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:22.000 remember when the Patriots used to have that big Thursday 7 00:00:22.039 --> 00:00:24.760 night game down at Ulllett Stadium in Foxborough and everybody 8 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:28.039 would be there. I even remember when Donald Trump would 9 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:30.519 be on the sideline. Yes, I did interview Donald Trump 10 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:33.560 one time on the sideline. He was hanging out with 11 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:35.479 the Crafts. He had millennia with him. And this is 12 00:00:35.479 --> 00:00:38.159 when he was just a reality TV star. This wasn't 13 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:41.840 when he was running for president. That's when the Patriots 14 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:45.799 were massive. And to say their rebuilding is an understatement. 15 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:49.079 Joining us right now is Nicole Gang Boston Globe. Nicole, 16 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:50.479 thanks for coming on Night's side. 17 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:52.840 Thanks so much for having me. 18 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:57.439 So how's everything going atji Lette, how's everything in Foxborough? 19 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:02.280 What's going on? How is the optimism? Uh? First of all, 20 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:05.239 I got to talk about Look, we all know the rebuilding, right, 21 00:01:05.280 --> 00:01:08.159 so we'll we'll get to all that stuff. But I 22 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:10.640 love my guy Mayo. I mean, I worked with Gerard 23 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:14.239 a couple of years at Comcast Sportsnet now NBC Sports Boston. 24 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:17.599 He's a great dude. What are your impressions of him 25 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:19.239 as the coach so far? And I know they haven't 26 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:21.640 played a game yet, but you know basically what you've done, 27 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:23.239 how you've dealt with them. 28 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:27.519 Yeah, I would say optimism within the building is very 29 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:32.079 high about Gerard, both from like an internal perspective with 30 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:36.439 the players and from dealing with the media perspective. Girod 31 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:38.840 has made it a point to be sort of more 32 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:41.519 friendly with the media. He's trying to be more transparent. 33 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:43.599 Then who who would that be? Who are we talking about? 34 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:44.840 Nicole who? 35 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:46.799 Oh? 36 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:50.680 You know the who's now a media star? I mean, 37 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:53.319 that is just so hilarious. It's just it happens all 38 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:55.599 the time. They hate us, they hate us, and then 39 00:01:55.640 --> 00:01:58.959 they want to be us. Uh, Gid's the best. Here's 40 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:01.359 the thing. You know, it's interesting because you know, I've 41 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:06.239 heard my guys. You know, is he you know, does 42 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:08.240 he have anything to do with the offense? Is he 43 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:11.479 a defensive coach? You know, how's that shaken out? I mean, 44 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:15.439 is he truly the head coach? Or is he the 45 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:17.639 head coach, but he's letting the offense do what they 46 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:19.319 want without any input. I don't know if you have 47 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:20.199 any insight on that. 48 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:25.879 So they've been stressing a collaborative approach since Gerard has 49 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:29.919 hired alongside Elliott Wolfe Alex and Alex van Pelt, so 50 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:34.680 I think he's involved. But that being said, has said 51 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:38.360 too that he's been relying on the experts in their field. 52 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:41.960 So I think he's referring to Alex van Pelt and 53 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:47.599 Elliott Wolf and about as final say over roster decisions, 54 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:51.560 who has final say over the quarterback decision, and they 55 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:54.520 still seem to be stressing this collaborative effort now at 56 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:56.639 the end of the day, I think Elliott has the 57 00:02:56.680 --> 00:02:59.319 final say over the roster. Girod has the final say 58 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:03.759 over who's playing on the actual field, and then he's 59 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:09.719 taking input from Alex Vanpel, Elliott and even Robert Kraft. 60 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:11.960 And that's the way it should be. That's the way 61 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.879 it should be. That's absolutely it's Elliott Wolf's team. You know, 62 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:19.360 he's the GM and his dad, Ron Wolf, was very 63 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:22.360 successful with the Green Bay Packers. I've heard good things 64 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:27.879 about Elliott Wolf. I think it's too damn hard. Excuse me. 65 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:30.840 You know, Bill Parcells to pick the groceries and also 66 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:33.800 cook the dinner. I just think it's too freaking hard. 67 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:39.560 And I think, to the man we were just talking about, like, 68 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:41.479 that's one of the reasons why they wanted to move 69 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:43.960 on from Bill Belijack, because that's just sort of become 70 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:48.960 antiquated model to have the coach handling also personnel responsibilities. 71 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:51.639 Now do those things work in tandem, of course, But 72 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:54.960 I think that they like the fact that there's not 73 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:58.840 these unilateral decisions being made across the board and that 74 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:02.120 it is sort of people being specialized in their departments, 75 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:05.319 but there's still a lot of collaboration across the board. 76 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:08.439 Do you how's Alex van Pelt then? Have you had 77 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:09.759 a chance to talk to him much? 78 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:14.840 Yeah, I mean I think everyone's just waiting to see 79 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:17.680 what the offense actually looks like. Like there are people 80 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:19.920 that think it's not going to be as bad as 81 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:23.319 we think, and then there of course are definitely people 82 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:25.120 that are justified in thinking that it's going to be 83 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:28.639 a disaster, especially based off of the performance in the 84 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:33.680 preseason finale. But Alex Vmpell understands the opportunity he has. 85 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:37.920 He hasn't really had this stage before in terms of 86 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:41.000 play calling, so I think he wants to prove himself 87 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:45.680 he understands for what's that stake here. And I think 88 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.279 that's why they brought in so many people that are 89 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:52.480 familiar with his system in Cleveland, because they're really trusting 90 00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:55.079 him and leaning into that system. 91 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:57.120 I think the poor guy's screwed. And i'll tell you why. 92 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:00.680 Billy O'Brien's a hell of a coach. Okay, Billy O'Brien 93 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:03.120 came back here and he was just he didn't have 94 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:07.560 a shot because after Bill, you know, Bill missed everything 95 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:09.959 put when he put a special teams coach in his 96 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:13.319 defensive coach in charge of the offense, and it just 97 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:16.920 killed the quarterback. It just messed everything up and it 98 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:19.199 was beyond repair. And Billy O'Brien came in and really 99 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:21.639 couldn't do anything with it. I don't know what Alex 100 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:23.279 Van Pelt's going to be able to do. He's got 101 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:26.360 no offensive line. Jacoby Burssett on a scale of one 102 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:28.399 to ten as a quarterback in the NFL, he's probably 103 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:31.120 a four. I don't even know who the receivers are. 104 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:34.560 I don't know how we were going to be able 105 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:38.519 to listen if they win five games because of the offense. 106 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:42.439 Give Alex Van Pelt a contract. That's what I think. 107 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:47.600 Yeah, I mean, that's all fair. I think the offensive 108 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:50.040 line is obviously the biggest question for the team right now. 109 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:51.720 I think there are going to be like a very 110 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:54.920 run heavy team. I think he's stressed the importance of 111 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:57.920 the running game. Ramandre Stevenson has said that he wants 112 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:00.639 to be a featured back. In the past, Patriots sort 113 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:04.319 of did an alternating system one drive on, one drive off, 114 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:07.439 but Remandra has said that he's ready for a bigger role. 115 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:10.000 I think that's going to be the case. But we'll 116 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:13.600 see if like Ramandre will get the touches. But we'll 117 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:15.759 see if any production will come along with that. 118 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:19.199 Right, And it's not cool in the NFL to play 119 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:21.839 that type of game. It's boring. People want to light 120 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:25.079 it up, they want the fantasy numbers and so forth. Personally, 121 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:27.480 I don't mind the running game. I think that you 122 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:30.120 have to have balance to try to keep your quarterback alive, 123 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:35.519 and so I think you're gonna have a running game 124 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:39.800 as they rebuild. Quite quite frankly, joining us right now 125 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:42.560 from the Boston Globe, Nicole Yang, Nicole, can you hang on? 126 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:45.839 We got to take a break. Yeah, no problem, Okay, 127 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:48.560 talking about the Patriots in the upcoming season right here 128 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:50.439 on WBC's Night Side. 129 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:53.879 Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World 130 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:57.040 night Side Studios on WBZ News. 131 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:00.439 Radio, and welcome back to Cole Yang. Join this here 132 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:03.920 from the Boston Globe as the NFL season is underwear 133 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:07.439 and the Patriots open up at one o'clock this weekend 134 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:12.399 in Cincinnati. Are you traveling with the team? Nicole? I 135 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:14.480 am yeah, Oh you get to go to Cincinnati. 136 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:17.800 Yes, the Joys of Cincinnati. 137 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:24.959 We're on to Cincinnati. How about that? So is there 138 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.720 anybody is there something you see in the offense? You 139 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:31.560 mentioned Stevenson? Are there some names? Are there some diamonds 140 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:34.399 in the rough that you're seeing that as this team rebuilds, 141 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:37.680 and man they are rebuilding that down the road you 142 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:39.079 might say could contribute. 143 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:47.560 Yeah. I think Jalen Pole for sure. Once of the team, 144 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:51.439 He's proven to be just like a viable, hard working guy. 145 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:54.079 I think to Mario Douglas is picking up where he 146 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:57.040 that's a fast year now of Tomrio is a bit 147 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:02.600 of a smaller guy names that stand out. Fence hunter 148 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:06.120 Henry had a bit of an injury because he was 149 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:08.319 out for the end of training camp, but I expect 150 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:11.759 him to be a popular target regardless of the quarterback. 151 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:14.920 There are a few names. None of them are flashy 152 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:20.759 per se, but or I guess Henry's not, but Mario 153 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:23.720 Douglass and Jalen Polk Firs Sir. Would be building blocks. 154 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:26.800 Do you think there's any point this season we see 155 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:30.959 Drake may. 156 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:34.200 I do, and I think that's a really interesting dilemma 157 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:37.679 for the Patriots because I think as of right now, 158 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:42.080 they definitely want to take things patiently. Just don't think 159 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:45.480 that Jacoby will be able to keep this team afloat 160 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:47.559 for sort of the things we've been for the reasons 161 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:51.360 we've been discussing so far, and that seems to be 162 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:56.399 the standard based on what Elliott saying is that as 163 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:01.000 long as Jakoby does his job and plays the way 164 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:03.720 that they think he's able to, then he'll start the 165 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:09.200 entire season. But Peter Guts well, given their deficiencies on offense, 166 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:12.240 I just don't see them being in a position where 167 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:14.960 the pressure doesn't count them to make a change. 168 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:18.559 Do you think I worry about the quarterbacks getting killed. 169 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:21.279 That's the thing that's the problem, you know. I don't 170 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.799 want their draft pick to get hurt. Now Brissette could, 171 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:26.919 he's he's in the line of fire too. If Brissette 172 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:29.519 went down, Heaven forbid knock on wood. I hope it 173 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:31.919 doesn't happen. I hate to see players get hurt. Would 174 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:34.080 they automatically go to the kid or would they bring 175 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:36.120 in somebody else. I think they should bring in somebody 176 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:38.039 else because I don't want this kid to get destroyed. 177 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:43.159 Yeah, So that's another interesting one that as of right now, 178 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:53.480 they've said and and and can't play even there, And 179 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:59.399 it seems to run contrast to what their overall dement 180 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:07.320 is or even next year. So it definitely seems odd 181 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:10.679 that they're comfortable right currently. 182 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:14.200 Nicole. Yeah, yeah, Nicole, we're having trouble with you. You're 183 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:17.000 breaking up on us here, So we're going to try 184 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:21.879 to rectify the problem with your phone signal because we're 185 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:24.840 only hearing like every other syllable, you know, one of 186 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:27.639 those one of those deals. So Nicole Yang is our 187 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:30.879 guest here from the Boston Globe talking about the upcoming 188 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:34.559 Patriots season. Now, defensively for the Patriots, things should be 189 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:40.399 better than they are on offense. You know, Okay Nicole 190 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:42.679 is back with us. Okay, Nicole, hopefully we have a 191 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:45.399 better signal now. So I mean, if you were to 192 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:47.759 guessed what week would we see may I mean, do 193 00:10:47.799 --> 00:10:49.159 you think you would see him in the first half 194 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:52.039 of the season or maybe in the final five or 195 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:53.159 six games. 196 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:57.360 I think it totally depends on the performance of the team. 197 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:02.320 So I could see week five maybe being the earliest possibility. 198 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:04.559 You think they would put him out that quick. 199 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:07.960 I think it's on the table that gives him a 200 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:13.039 month to sort of get familiar with preparing for a game. 201 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:18.759 It's against Miami at home. I think the first four 202 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:22.080 games are probably, barring injury, off the table, just given 203 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:25.799 the caliber of opponent and the circumstances. So I think 204 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:29.200 week five is probably the earliest. Week eight against the 205 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:32.360 Jets at home could also be a possibility. That's also 206 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:34.639 a team that they've played in Week three, so maybe 207 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:40.639 there's a little familiarity in his preparations. Coming back from 208 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:44.000 the bye is a possibility. So I mean, as of 209 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:47.679 right now, without seeing their record and how things go, 210 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:50.799 I think Week five, Week eight, All different points of 211 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:54.039 the season are on the table, but I would like 212 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:56.679 I wouldn't expect them to have his first start be 213 00:11:56.759 --> 00:12:00.320 in London, for example, because of just how interrupt that 214 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:04.159 can be to a routine. But I haven't ruled out 215 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:09.360 beginning and middle or a full red shirt ear. I 216 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:11.679 just truly think everything's on the table without seeing results. 217 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:14.240 Well, okay, now what do you like about him? Do 218 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:15.440 you like him. 219 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:17.039 Drake? 220 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:17.480 Yeah? 221 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:20.919 I think he's flashed his arm strength, basically all the 222 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:24.519 skills that made him worthy of a third overall pick. 223 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:27.639 He can move, he seems comfortable in the pocket, like 224 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:30.200 he said he would be ready to start, and I 225 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:35.039 think he looked it. And we talk about the quarterbacks 226 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:39.559 getting killed or facing pressure, and he seems to be 227 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:42.799 handling it well. And you look at Joe Burrow's rookie season, 228 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:45.159 he was sacked the most number of times in the league. Now, 229 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:49.080 Joe Burrow is probably maybe a tear up in terms 230 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:52.320 of a prospects compared to Drake. But Drake is still 231 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:56.240 like a high level prospect and higher than I think 232 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:00.759 the quarterback that is maybe causing a lot of mac 233 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:03.000 jones and that I think he'll be able to handle 234 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:04.159 pressure better than. 235 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:06.639 Mac and that, Yeah he's better than that. 236 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:09.879 Yeah, what what broke. 237 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:13.399 Mac Jones down in terms of like his confidence and 238 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.159 things like that, Like I don't expect Drake to have 239 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:19.279 the same uh trajectory. 240 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:21.799 Yeah, I mean, look look at where they both played 241 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:25.320 college ball. Mac Jones was at Alabama. He was Alabama, 242 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:29.519 he was surrounded by first round picks. Everything was perfect, 243 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:33.559 Everything happened to be in place. He's a serviceable quarterback. 244 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:37.080 Mac Jones is a serviceable quarterback. If you have great 245 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:39.879 players around him, they can do very good things. But 246 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:42.559 he's not going to carry a team. I mean, Mac 247 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:46.000 just isn't going to do that. I think that the 248 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:49.480 coaching staff really threw him under the bus. This kid, 249 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:52.639 Drake May. I think it's a different situation. I think 250 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:55.960 there's much more upside with Drake May than when Mac 251 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:59.159 Jones And yeah, you know, I'm sorry, go ahead continue. 252 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:04.320 And what you're saying too is true of what they 253 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:07.919 saw in Drake at North Carolina. And obviously the NFL 254 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:13.200 is a different caliber of competition than North Carolina college football. 255 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:18.240 But Drake wasn't playing necessarily behind a sound line or 256 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:21.960 with uber talented receivers, but he still made plays happen, 257 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:24.679 and so I think you have to trust in your 258 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:27.279 evaluation of him. Of course, you don't want to rush 259 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:30.720 his development and their plans. So far, the patient seems 260 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:33.120 to be paying off because he has been making strides 261 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:38.759 throughout training camp and now into the preseason. But I 262 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:41.440 think you do also have to believe in the player 263 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:43.519 that you did draft. 264 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:47.440 Do you think he's exceeded expectations in the preseason, because 265 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:47.919 I think he. 266 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:54.120 Has, I don't know about maybe exceeded expectations. He was 267 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:57.120 a third overall pick and they did view him very highly. 268 00:14:57.159 --> 00:15:02.559 I think he's flat. He definitely has come on really strong. 269 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:05.399 I think maybe he benefited from the fact that he 270 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:08.799 only played six snaps in the preseason in the first 271 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:11.720 preseason game, and that through maybe the first two weeks 272 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:15.279 of training camp it was very obvious that Jacoby was 273 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:19.480 the better quarterback, so the expectations sort of were low 274 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:23.440 and then he really jumped up. So but I think 275 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:27.000 he's he's on par with what they were expecting out 276 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:28.960 of him. They've always been high on him. 277 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:32.759 So what do you think of the AFC East? You know, 278 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:34.720 I don't know, did you make a prediction on the 279 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:37.879 Patriots having did you have to pick in the globe? 280 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:39.200 How many wins do you think they're going to have? 281 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:40.919 Yes? 282 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:43.120 I picked four, that's about right. 283 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:45.879 I get that. Do you remember who who the victories are? 284 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:51.279 We didn't help to specify, But I think Tennessee is 285 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:55.559 a winnable game. I think there's always some sort of 286 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:58.000 like foot like last year when they beat Buffalo. I 287 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:05.919 think that's the possibility. Indianapolis so and then who knows, 288 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:09.480 maybe the defense wins them a game. So I think 289 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:13.159 there are four wins, though at most on paper as 290 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:14.159 things stand right now. 291 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:16.480 So what do you think of the AFC East? I mean, 292 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:20.559 this is still Buffalo's thing. Any thoughts on the Jets Miami? 293 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.919 Uh, it wouldn't surprise me if Buffalo takes a step back. 294 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:32.200 I think the Jets, if Aaron Rodgers stays healthy, definitely 295 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:34.120 have a chance. A lot of people have them going 296 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:37.519 to the conference championship game, maybe even the super Bowl. 297 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:39.279 So it wouldn't surprise me at the Jets. They're just 298 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:42.879 loaded with talent, cake the division title. 299 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:46.559 I feel bad for Jet fans. They need a little love. 300 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:49.240 They do they need a little love? Come on, they 301 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:52.600 need something here. They need they and I mean Rogers, 302 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:54.440 he's out of his mind. He's a nut job. But 303 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:57.039 if he does stay healthy, you know, they can certainly 304 00:16:57.039 --> 00:17:00.240 get something done. I'm surprised that Buffalo Buffalo's were rest 305 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:01.200 a little bit, haven't they. 306 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:06.319 Yeah, I mean they lost Stefon Diggs. Of course they 307 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:10.240 have Keon Coleman as a young wide receiver, but it 308 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:12.920 takes time for rookie wide receivers to come on, even 309 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:15.680 like I'm on, we're all Saint Brown, like the players 310 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:18.519 that now are sort of household names like their rookie years, 311 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:21.000 they don't really come on till, like I don't know, 312 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:23.559 week ten and start putting up like big numbers. So 313 00:17:23.880 --> 00:17:25.960 it just wouldn't surprise me if it takes them a 314 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:30.799 while to sort of find their groove in their rebuild 315 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.319 is too strong. But like retool, is. 316 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:35.960 It still Kansas City's deal here? I mean, I haven't 317 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:37.640 even checked the score on what's going on. I know 318 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:41.000 Baltimore scored, but is it still Kansas City's league or 319 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:42.079 championship to lose? 320 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:46.200 I picked the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. I 321 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:48.799 think there are a lot of fun hot up and 322 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:54.359 coming teams. The Lions, the Texans. But Kansas City knows 323 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:56.880 what it takes as cliches that sounds to win a 324 00:17:56.960 --> 00:17:59.039 Super Bowl. They know the pacing of a season, they 325 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:03.240 know how to sign magnitude to wins and losses, and 326 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:07.559 they know just like mentally, how long of a season 327 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:10.279 it is to get to February. So I think right 328 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:14.400 now there's no reason to doubt them. And I think 329 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:18.079 there are teams on the rise for sure, but none 330 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:20.680 is strong enough to knock off the Chiefs. 331 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.480 Yeah, Kansas City twenty seven to seventeen, with five minutes 332 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:26.039 to go leaving Baltimore right now. They get the quarterback. 333 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:29.880 That's it. They get the quarterback and mister Taylor Swift. 334 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:33.200 So that's that's all. Lady. Is that going to last? 335 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:37.720 What do you think is that going to last? The Swifties, 336 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:42.400 the swift Mania, Yeah, well, the swift mania, but the relationship. 337 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:47.640 Oh with I see. I mean, who's to say. I 338 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:53.279 think they seem happy she's at the game tonight. They 339 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:56.240 seem to be making it work. But they're also two 340 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:01.880 very high profile individuals, so who knows. Ben Affleck and 341 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:04.920 Jalo broke up for the second time, so anything can happen. 342 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:06.799 Yeah, but I mean, come on, Nicle, we all saw 343 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:09.440 that one coming. I mean, that was that was a 344 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:13.920 no brainer as long. Here's here's always the issue because 345 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:17.039 we saw it with Brady and Gizelle. Everything's great until 346 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:21.160 you stopped playing. When guys stop playing, they've got nothing 347 00:19:21.240 --> 00:19:26.119 to do. And the Kelsey Brothers have a great podcast. 348 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:29.759 They're you know, they're very uh you know, I can 349 00:19:29.799 --> 00:19:31.880 see Travis. He could go into movies, he could go 350 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:35.559 into the booth. But when guys stopped playing, things change. 351 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:42.279 And she obviously she's a megastar, she's an international mania, 352 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:46.519 you know. I mean, if she's a ten, now he's 353 00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:51.240 a three. You know, if he stops playing, she's still 354 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:55.400 a ten and he's like he's a negative one. That's 355 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:58.640 where it always gets interesting. Mark my words on that. 356 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:02.599 The problem is when they stop playing. But right now 357 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:05.799 it looks good. I just wish sometimes I just you know, 358 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:08.160 sometimes when he gets in front of a microphone, he 359 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:11.000 acts like I'm moron. You know, he growls, he's yes, 360 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:13.880 says something, he wraps something, he yells something. I'm like, 361 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:18.039 just can't you just be normal? Just be normal? You 362 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:21.119 know what I mean. That's that's that's all I want, no, no know, 363 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:25.920 maybe she'll maybe she'll get him to grow up. Well, listen, 364 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:28.559 we we really appreciate you coming on, Nicole. Great job, 365 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:30.920 best of luck on the road this year with the 366 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.640 team covering the patch and believe me, you are going 367 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:36.319 to earn every dime the Boston Globe pays you. 368 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:40.200 Thanks so much for having me, Gary, Okay. 369 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:42.440 Nicole Yang joining us from the Boston Globe here on 370 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:47.160 WBC's night Side with you until twelve midnight. Right here 371 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:49.720 on BZ, Gary Tangling in for Dan Ray. We'll be 372 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:50.359 right back. 373 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:59.200 Night side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's News Radio. 374 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:01.559 Hi, Dan, I can thank you very much. Gary Tangling 375 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:03.519 for Dan Ray tonight six Month, seven two five, four 376 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:05.039 to ten thirty. If you want to jump on board 377 00:21:05.039 --> 00:21:07.480 here until twelve midnight. We'd like to thank all of 378 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:10.279 our guests for coming on this evening discussing discussing the 379 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:13.720 M cast with Devin MacCarthy earlier on why do we 380 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:16.079 even need it? Should it be a grad requirement? I 381 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:22.599 say no, I don't think so. And then so the 382 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:24.440 dealer is, if you flunk the M cast in the 383 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:26.599 tenth grade, you don't graduate, so you don't have a 384 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:28.599 chance to make it up your junior or senior year. 385 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:32.079 If you flunk as a sophomore, you do not graduate. 386 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:42.039 What that's crazy. Kids will probably just drop out of school. 387 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:46.039 And according to the numbers, one percent of the students 388 00:21:46.039 --> 00:21:51.039 who take the m cast fail the m Cast in Massachusetts. 389 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:54.359 I had a great conversation this evening. If you're just 390 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:57.319 joining as you can catch it the podcast online tomorrow 391 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:02.720 with Ben Selkoe and he nominated filmmaker and friend of 392 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:06.759 Gary Tangoy was just dropped in in there. It's on 393 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:11.920 Hulu and it is a true true crime docu series 394 00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:17.640 Killing Lives Chasing a true crime con man about French 395 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:20.759 serial killer expert stephar And Bargoyne, who turned out to 396 00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:24.960 be a fraud said he interviewed seventy seven serial killers. Nope, 397 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:30.640 pretty much made all of it up. Let everybody and 398 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:33.039 then it was actually consulting with the police and saying 399 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:36.880 he solved crimes. This guy was making it said that 400 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:39.839 his girlfriend was murdered by a serial killer. He made 401 00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:46.279