Speaker 1: Oh that's are hello and welcome to the show. This
Speaker 1: is the Cult of Conspiracy. I am the Cajun night
Speaker 1: and tonight, as far as the Cult of Conspiracy is concerned,
Speaker 1: I'll be flying solo because Raven Lee had some things
Speaker 1: come up that she had to handle. But we do
Speaker 1: have on in a We've had them on before. We
Speaker 1: met them at bro Grove, not once, but twice. You
Speaker 1: know them, you love them. Brad from the Awakened podcast.
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on this evening. Brother, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm great, man, Thank you for having me on. You
Speaker 2: guys are always awesome to me, Man, and I always
Speaker 2: give you your flowers wherever I can every time I
Speaker 2: go on somebody else's show or bro Grove, wherever it's at. Man,
Speaker 2: I'm always very thankful for you guys, because I know
Speaker 2: you'll built such a huge audience together, you and Jonathan
Speaker 2: and now Ravens an honor to be on here with you, dude.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Dude. The honors are ours, honestly, because
Speaker 1: we try to keep the real ones as close as possible,
Speaker 1: and you are one of the realest ones that we
Speaker 1: know of. To be completely honest with you and speaking
Speaker 1: of tonight or today, depending on when you're listening to
Speaker 1: this good cult. Remember, we are going to be talking
Speaker 1: about disclosure propaganda. How there are so many lies woven
Speaker 1: into the story that we get told, but also at
Speaker 1: the same time, some of these truths are trying to
Speaker 1: break out, but they're also getting buried under more and
Speaker 1: more lies. Tell me about this man you talked about.
Speaker 1: There's disclosure movies that are coming out, right, There's disclosure
Speaker 1: documentaries coming out. Spielberg brought up one. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: remember who the other guy was it released the disclosure documentary,
Speaker 1: and basically they're all in your opinion propaganda.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Dan Fair had a.
Speaker 2: Ask the one disclosure movie, The Age of Disclosure, that
Speaker 2: came out a couple months ago. So this topic might
Speaker 2: seem like old hat, but it's really got a lot
Speaker 2: of it's becoming more relevant, especially as we approach Steven
Speaker 2: Spielberg's version of disclosure with his Disclosure Day movie. He's
Speaker 2: been disclosing stuff to the public since the seventies, you know,
Speaker 2: with what is the movie called again, Third Close Encounters
Speaker 2: of the Was it Third Kind?
Speaker 1: That was Spielberg? Yeah, I'll be damn yeah, yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 3: Actually Dan Farra is an underling of his.
Speaker 2: If you will, Dan Farra is kind of like becoming
Speaker 2: the new Spielberg because you know, Spielberg's been doing this
Speaker 2: for fifty years. I mean, he's he's passing the buck
Speaker 2: on to someone. He's passing the baton on to someone else.
Speaker 1: Said underling? Was he like? Was he an understudy, a
Speaker 1: mentor was he one of his crew?
Speaker 2: Well, he's been a producer on a couple of his shows,
Speaker 2: like excuse me, Ready Player one, Yeah, the I believe
Speaker 2: a producer and executive producer and Ready Player one. That
Speaker 2: is Dan Farrah was on, you know, for Steven Spielberg.
Speaker 2: And you really have to question this guy, Dan Farrah,
Speaker 2: who has never had any major films that he's directed
Speaker 2: by himself except for Disclosure Day, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden he has access to Marco Rubio and all
Speaker 2: these other high level intelligence of visual CIA, FBI. Congressman,
Speaker 2: you don't just get that kind of access on your
Speaker 2: directorial debut R. You know, you just don't call up
Speaker 2: your buddy and go, hey, dude, let's let's do an
Speaker 2: interview together. You got to remember Marco Rubio, this I
Speaker 2: think he did some interviews with him before he became
Speaker 2: Secretary of State, but then also as Secretary State. And
Speaker 2: there's a big reason why you see Marco Rubio in
Speaker 2: the film The Age of Disclosure. For his film, he's
Speaker 2: talking about this whole movie, they talk about non human intelligence.
Speaker 2: Nobody really mentions the word alien or extraterrestrials. And that's
Speaker 2: a big thing that I actually am trying to let
Speaker 2: everybody know. The government is not lying to you per se.
Speaker 2: They're just not telling you their words. They're they're using
Speaker 2: a totally different book. They're using a totally different vocabulary. Well,
Speaker 2: let's let's take that back with it.
Speaker 3: Yes, the government is definitely lying to you.
Speaker 2: But if you go back to that, I can't remember
Speaker 2: the name of the event that happened, man, it was
Speaker 2: in like Michigan or Ohio or somewhere like that. Of
Speaker 2: it was one of those first stories where the government
Speaker 2: was like, oh, that was swamp gas. It was these
Speaker 2: two girls of the that saw like a UFO and
Speaker 2: they're like, nah, it was swamp gas. Well, they're technically
Speaker 2: not lying about that, and I'll get into that a
Speaker 2: little bit a little bit later, but so, yeah, they
Speaker 2: use different language than we use and you just have
Speaker 2: to know their language, and it's a very I mean,
Speaker 2: they use pseudonyms for everything they don't have. You know,
Speaker 2: they're not going to have like Brad Lao at the
Speaker 2: you know, the white House dot gov. Typically they're going
Speaker 2: to have something some kind of a pseudonym that's just
Speaker 2: like now. Some people will of course, but I think
Speaker 2: and I think they will still have one of those
Speaker 2: types of emails, but it'll be like, let's just use
Speaker 2: Barack Obama for example. We'd be like Barry oh at
Speaker 2: you know something something dot gov or whatever the case is.
Speaker 2: And they do this because for people who try to
Speaker 2: access these for your requests or whatever, they can't find
Speaker 2: that information because they're asking for Barack Obama at white
Speaker 2: House dot gov and they're not asking for Barrio at
Speaker 2: Secretary of State dot com.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 3: They get whatever it needs right right, it's making it
Speaker 3: up right now.
Speaker 2: But the point.
Speaker 3: Is is they all use pseudonym.
Speaker 2: You saw this with the Hillary Clinton case with her
Speaker 2: private server. A lot of the emails that were released
Speaker 2: in WikiLeaks, you saw a lot of those types of pseudonyms.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this or not, but
Speaker 2: what was the guy what was the lady's name, Not
Speaker 2: Susan Rice. There was another no, no, no, she was
Speaker 2: the Attorney general. Short She was like a light skinned
Speaker 2: black lady, I believe short hair. I can't remember her name,
Speaker 2: but she had another pseudonym, and she was talking about
Speaker 2: this meeting on the tarmac with the Clintons and all
Speaker 2: this other stuff.
Speaker 3: But again, the.
Speaker 2: Point is is they used different pseudonyms, So I don't
Speaker 2: really remember why I was going with all that. But
Speaker 2: their language is very different, is what I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get at. Like, for the last seven years, they've had
Speaker 2: disclosure briefings in Congress. Every couple of years they'll have another.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just a dog and pony show essentially,
Speaker 2: where people come. You get all the Defense Department officials
Speaker 2: and all this other stuff, all these whistleblowers like David
Speaker 2: Grush and David Fraverer and all.
Speaker 1: These people, and I mean all the good cult members.
Speaker 1: Know I'm not exactly a huge fan of David Grush.
Speaker 1: Like listen, I am a full blown believer in aliens
Speaker 1: right and to what level, to what degree where they
Speaker 1: come from. We can debate that and speculate till the
Speaker 1: cows come home. But what I am saying is that
Speaker 1: every single syllable that David Grush has ever ushered onto
Speaker 1: a microphone has been DoD approved and greenlit. And they,
Speaker 1: by they, I do mean the actual US government, not
Speaker 1: the shadow elite. No, no, no, the actual Department of
Speaker 1: Defense and the actual White House has given him the
Speaker 1: thumbs up to talk about it. And it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: y'all understand how much of a red flag that really is?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm throwing it out. It's the same as
Speaker 1: like a former CIA operative coming forward to tell you
Speaker 1: about some CIA shit. It's like, you understand, the agency
Speaker 1: has green lit them to talk about these things. Otherwise
Speaker 1: he would never saying with like you ever seen Andy Boustamante, No, uh.
Speaker 1: He has a podcast called I Think It's Modern Day Spy.
Speaker 1: He's this kind of looks racially ambiguous type of dude,
Speaker 1: big big afro, curly hair, but he's always got to
Speaker 1: kind of pull back a little bit. Yeah right, yeah,
Speaker 1: CIA guy. He goes on tons of podcasts and he's
Speaker 1: very likable, but you understand he was trained on how
Speaker 1: to be likable. He and his wife were both operatives,
Speaker 1: and they have a podcast together where they talk about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: now listen, I'm not saying that he is some sort
Speaker 1: of an all encompassing source and we should take what
Speaker 1: he says as the word of God. What I am
Speaker 1: saying is that, yes, he has a little more insider
Speaker 1: knowledge about the CIA than your average at Joe. That's fine,
Speaker 1: but you also have to take everything he says with
Speaker 1: a massive grain of salt because everything he's saying has
Speaker 1: been approved for him to say. And then you look
Speaker 1: at David Grush. Not a single bit of what he
Speaker 1: said was a first person account. Everything was third persons,
Speaker 1: everything was a story. Well, I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: was told that the answer to your question, mister Congressman
Speaker 1: is yes. And it's like, that's not that's not what
Speaker 1: we're asking for. No one asked for that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: to your point, he's the type of disclosure we're getting.
Speaker 1: There are some right, there are some former pilots, naval pilots,
Speaker 1: air force pilots who will come forward and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: up there we saw some shit we can't explain. We
Speaker 1: saw some balls alight, we saw some shit pop up
Speaker 1: on radars that like was defying the laws of physics,
Speaker 1: and like Okay, I listened to those dudes. These people,
Speaker 1: they're not telling you, Oh, it absolutely was pleadians. It
Speaker 1: was absolutely reptilians. They're not making speculative claims like this.
Speaker 1: What they're saying is there is something out there that
Speaker 1: we don't know what it is, and here's my story
Speaker 1: of my experience with it. I'm good with that. Then
Speaker 1: you have a lot of people come forward and say, oh,
Speaker 1: that was clearly in the arians obviously, and it's like,
Speaker 1: here we go, and that person will get three hours
Speaker 1: of airtime. Meanwhile the pilot might get ten minutes. It's
Speaker 1: it seems like it's all a part of the plan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, man, and you hit on it exactly
Speaker 2: with David Grush, all of these people. It's not just
Speaker 2: David Grush always second hand accounts. Well, I know a
Speaker 2: guy who knows a guy who heard over say, we
Speaker 2: know that there may be a crash retrieval program because
Speaker 2: we I know a guy who used to work in
Speaker 2: that department. He said this, do this is That's That's
Speaker 2: the whole point of what I'm trying to talk about here,
Speaker 2: is how it's just all garbage, right, It's like, none
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: You can watch those things till you're blue in the face.
Speaker 2: Literally, you can just sit there for hours and just
Speaker 2: I just I learned a long time ago. I used
Speaker 2: to be heavy, heavily into politics. I would sit there
Speaker 2: and be like, you know, come on, Republicans, you can get.
Speaker 3: These get Barack Obama or whoever it is.
Speaker 2: And eventually I realized, like, oh, this is all a show.
Speaker 3: Even when I was in the military.
Speaker 2: I saw it. Yeah, but I was I was a
Speaker 2: public relations I was a photographer in the public relations
Speaker 2: department within the military. Actually JD. Vance and I had
Speaker 2: the exact same job in the military. He was a
Speaker 2: commat photographer. I was a comet photographer.
Speaker 1: Dude, look at y'all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But but so essentially we were under the public
Speaker 2: relations and public relations is just propaganda, that's all.
Speaker 1: That is, right, right, So when something goes wrong, make
Speaker 1: sure you get to the local news station, tell him
Speaker 1: it was a training exercise. But everybody's okay the obvious
Speaker 1: jargon for sure, obviously.
Speaker 2: And also, you know, when we were in the Middle East,
Speaker 2: or I was in the Middle East. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you served over there or not, but when I
Speaker 2: was in the Middle East, they would have you know,
Speaker 2: they would say, the public relations officer would say, go
Speaker 2: get a picture of a soldier giving out some bread
Speaker 2: to a Afghan girl or something like that.
Speaker 3: So then you got to fake something and pose it, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and all this other stuff. So again it's it's
Speaker 2: an information war that I think we're in a information war.
Speaker 2: People don't really realize that that's what that is. We're
Speaker 2: in the information war and that that will lead into
Speaker 2: what I'm going to talk about about propaganda in a minute.
Speaker 2: But yeah, all these people man this second hand hand accounts,
Speaker 2: all this other stuff. They never really have any kind
Speaker 2: of firm information. There's also another thread that people aren't
Speaker 2: talking about enough, and it's like why are they always
Speaker 2: talking to Department of Defense Because these people are they
Speaker 2: have heavy security clearances a lot of times, and they
Speaker 2: can be court martialed and they can be put in
Speaker 2: Fort Levenworth or whatever for saying some of the things
Speaker 2: they say, so they're very careful with their words, like
Speaker 2: you said, with all these these different top secret clearances tsscis,
Speaker 2: which are which is a compartmentalized clearance. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: you need to know clearances and all this other stuff.
Speaker 2: So there's different levels different tiers, and once you get
Speaker 2: a top secret clearance, it doesn't go away.
Speaker 1: It does after ten years mine mine expired in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Actually it does. But what I'm saying is like if
Speaker 2: you left the job at nine years later, they can say, hey,
Speaker 2: we need you and you're activated back onto that.
Speaker 3: Sure, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Whatever you're so. So these people who are fresh out
Speaker 2: of the government, like lou Elizondo, who are they still
Speaker 2: have that good clearances while they're talking about all this stuff, right,
Speaker 2: they don't go away?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's also, Uh, Like you're talking about
Speaker 1: the clearance levels. There's different types. So I know guys
Speaker 1: who have a Yankee White clearance, which means they can
Speaker 1: carry a load of weapon next to the president. Okay, cool.
Speaker 1: That does not mean that they're in the war room
Speaker 1: whenever some shit's going on, like they're not red in
Speaker 1: or briefed on the higher level things that are going
Speaker 1: There's like a physical level of clearance, and then there's
Speaker 1: an information level of clearance. So everybody in the military
Speaker 1: has basically a classified it's a very very low level,
Speaker 1: very low wrong. Cool, cool, You're able to get onto
Speaker 1: military basis next up would be that secret, right, which
Speaker 1: is not that crazy. They're not calling your third grade
Speaker 1: teacher to see if you were a good kid or not.
Speaker 1: TS and TSSI Top secret is when that starts to
Speaker 1: get to that level of there are they're starting. They're
Speaker 1: starting to call your family members, They're starting to pull
Speaker 1: records to see if you have an uncle in jail
Speaker 1: for terrorism or things like that. And then from that
Speaker 1: part up it goes deeper and deeper into making sure
Speaker 1: that you are who you say you are and if
Speaker 1: you're somebody they could trust. Cut two. These things expire
Speaker 1: after ten years and grants it. Like you said, I
Speaker 1: had a TS if for whatever reason, the government was
Speaker 1: to knock on my door and say that they need me,
Speaker 1: they could just reinstate it. It's not this big thing
Speaker 1: where they got to cause clearances are expensive to get, right,
Speaker 1: it's expensive to run. We're talking eighty k to run
Speaker 1: a TS A very basic top secret security clearance TSSCI
Speaker 1: and everything on. Up that, yeah, we're going further and
Speaker 1: further because they we're talking about man hours for somebody
Speaker 1: to actually do deep dives into this person and that
Speaker 1: cost money. Then cut two for them to just like
Speaker 1: give somebody. We see these movies, right in the Transformers movies,
Speaker 1: for instance, they bring these computer nerds in and they
Speaker 1: just kind of read them in Boom boom, Now you're
Speaker 1: a top secret and let's go here. That's the thing
Speaker 1: that happens. That's absolutely thing that happens. The situation will
Speaker 1: dictate when it comes to things like that. But for
Speaker 1: those that already have had this extensive background check done
Speaker 1: on them, and it's just that easy to just reinstate it,
Speaker 1: especially when you have a very high up signature on there.
Speaker 1: It is what it is, right, one hundred percent. So
Speaker 1: you get these people like Loue Elizondo or the pilots,
Speaker 1: and not all these pilots. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know how many of these pilots have top secret or
Speaker 1: higher levels of clearance. But whatever, when they're coming out
Speaker 1: and talking about it, they're not telling you how our
Speaker 1: defensive posture works, right, They're not reading out how our radars,
Speaker 1: what frequency they're looking for, whatever. Else. They're telling you
Speaker 1: about a story that they have from their time in
Speaker 1: So these things, okay, I can understand. But some of
Speaker 1: these dudes that clearly have a higher level security clearance
Speaker 1: and they're speaking very openly about the situation at hand.
Speaker 1: It's like, so somebody tapped you on the shoulder and
Speaker 1: told you you were greenlit to talk about this.
Speaker 2: Obviously, yeah, exactly, And it's like a field promote I
Speaker 2: actually witnessed the feel promotion because I used to work
Speaker 2: for an army general when I was in the military,
Speaker 2: and I literally saw it was like he asked the
Speaker 2: guy if he could do a certain thing. He asked
Speaker 2: the higher ranking guy said no, he has the lower
Speaker 2: ranking guy. The guy said, yeah, he goes, well, you're
Speaker 2: now the E six in charge. It was just that
Speaker 2: that's how it works with those kind of things because
Speaker 2: they have that kind of that that kind of a
Speaker 2: power to be able to do that. So the point is, though, man,
Speaker 2: is all of these all these people sitting there running
Speaker 2: their mouth.
Speaker 3: They're really not saying anything.
Speaker 2: You know, they can they can sit there all day,
Speaker 2: they look good in front of the camera, they say
Speaker 2: all these things. It's all intentional. It's all uh designed.
Speaker 2: It's designed to throw you off the path of what's
Speaker 2: really happening and what's really going on.
Speaker 3: That's really what it boils down to.
Speaker 2: So take my work for it. When I tell you,
Speaker 2: do not watch those things. They're literally a waste of time.
Speaker 2: And here's why. All you're seeing CIA, FBI, all these
Speaker 2: again national security organization, right, d I A, all these kinds.
Speaker 2: You're seeing these kind of do O D these kind
Speaker 2: of people. So it becomes a nasty So immediately when
Speaker 2: you think of aliens and disclosure and all this, they're
Speaker 2: making it seem like it's all national security and and
Speaker 2: you can ask questions, we had all this stuff. That's
Speaker 2: again that's all hogwash because what what does the word
Speaker 2: anomalists mean? Out of the ordinary, out of it's but
Speaker 2: usually it's like anomalous weather, anomalists, whatever, patterns, whatever.
Speaker 3: So what when when people see UFOs.
Speaker 2: And aliens and all this whatever you want to call them,
Speaker 2: u aps, unidentified aerial phenomena, whatever you want to call them.
Speaker 2: What's aerial phenomena? Right, it's it's happening in the atmosphere,
Speaker 2: it's happening in the oceans, it's happening in volcanoes. So
Speaker 2: why is there no one from the Department of Energy
Speaker 2: on that panel? Why is there why is there no
Speaker 2: one from the Department of Interior, Because the Department of
Speaker 2: Interior oversees like the oceans and the volcanos and the
Speaker 2: national parks and all this stuff, which is where all
Speaker 2: of this stuff is happening. Yeah, so how come we
Speaker 2: don't have a panel of anyone from the Department of Energy.
Speaker 3: Nobody has been.
Speaker 2: From the Department of Energy or the Department of Interior
Speaker 2: on that panel being asked these kind of questions. And
Speaker 2: that is the single solitary thing that should tell you
Speaker 2: that nothing of what they're talking about is garbage. Well,
Speaker 2: us knowing that information.
Speaker 1: Is Let me ask you this, though a lot of
Speaker 1: people and myself included, to be completely honest with you,
Speaker 1: the head of these departments are appointed officials, right. The
Speaker 1: head of the Department of Energy isn't some guy who
Speaker 1: was with the department for thirty years and worked his
Speaker 1: way up to the higher echelon. There are rare occurrences
Speaker 1: of people that have right and when the time came
Speaker 1: to President looked at the panel and was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, that guy or girl is obviously the right
Speaker 1: person for that job. So he put him in there,
Speaker 1: and they really do knock it out of the park.
Speaker 1: And then you look at people like who's in charge
Speaker 1: of the Department of education, and it's a person who
Speaker 1: never ever sat in a public school classroom in their life, right.
Speaker 1: Or you look at who's in charge of the Department
Speaker 1: of War now Department of War used to the Department
Speaker 1: of Defense. I like Haig Seth. There's issues with him.
Speaker 1: I understand that, but at least he's served at one
Speaker 1: point in time. Typically the person in charge of the
Speaker 1: defense has never served. And that's a whole issue. When
Speaker 1: you look at the Department of Energy or the Department
Speaker 1: of Interior, how many these people actually served their country
Speaker 1: in that regard or even worked in that department prior
Speaker 1: to their appointing. Right, So, whenever you're saying we never
Speaker 1: see these people in there, I agree that this is
Speaker 1: a red flag. But then you have a lot of
Speaker 1: people give you pushback and say, well, even if they
Speaker 1: were there, it's not like these people know what the
Speaker 1: fuck you're talking about anyway, So how can we trust that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're one hundred percent right, But what they usually
Speaker 2: do is they appoint someone like there's a guy named
Speaker 2: Doug Bergham who's the Secretary of Interior, for example, Well,
Speaker 2: he manages public lands, and who's the person who's buying.
Speaker 3: Up all the public lands right now is the Gates
Speaker 3: Bill Gates?
Speaker 2: Right, So Doug Burnham Burgham used to be business partners.
Speaker 3: He's good friends with Bill Gates.
Speaker 2: He actually Microsoft bought one of his companies and he
Speaker 2: was a higher up at Microsoft for a long time.
Speaker 1: Oh is this this new information to me? Dude?
Speaker 2: Right? So then, so now you got someone who is
Speaker 2: he's an insider. All these people are always insiders. They're
Speaker 2: always working in oil or energy in some way. So again, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not necessary worry about them because they are appointments
Speaker 2: and yeah they do come and go. Okay, why not
Speaker 2: have a panel of physicists on there and saying, hey,
Speaker 2: we see in these strange things, these plasmoids in the
Speaker 2: sky in New Jersey and New York? What is going
Speaker 2: on here? Why are the auroras at lower latitudes? How
Speaker 2: come we're not asking those kinds of questions? How can
Speaker 2: we see certain things at certain times of the day,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. Those are major questions that you
Speaker 2: should be asking someone from the Department of Energy. They
Speaker 2: have Remember these UFOs aliens whatever are always seen over
Speaker 2: nuclear energy research facilities. They are always seen, uh, dismantling
Speaker 2: these atomic bombs and all those newse nuclear weapons, right,
Speaker 2: and they're always So how come we don't have anybody
Speaker 2: from the Department of Energy answering like, why are we
Speaker 2: seeing these over nuclear energy facilities? Right? Yeah? How come?
Speaker 3: How come?
Speaker 2: Again? I don't think that they see them as a threat.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: This is not a national security threat.
Speaker 1: I don't think, no whenever the.
Speaker 2: Alien stuff is not national security threat when he does,
Speaker 2: because it's about their own self preservation, these aliens, these
Speaker 2: So I mean, I've explained this in other shows before
Speaker 2: I did a show with Tripley. I probably would on
Speaker 2: Temple Hat, which I was I really butchered.
Speaker 3: I was kind of all over the place.
Speaker 2: But what I was trying to say say is that
Speaker 2: these things are antimatter. They form up out of antimatter,
Speaker 2: out of plasma, and so anytime you have some sort
Speaker 2: of energy thing going on, their ability to remain coherent
Speaker 2: together is threatened. So high heat like from nuclear blasts
Speaker 2: will disperse these things back into the ether.
Speaker 3: So that's where that comes from.
Speaker 2: So they I don't think that they have this, and
Speaker 2: I say, they just mean this non human intelligence, which
Speaker 2: again goes back to what I was talking about. Nobody
Speaker 2: in these briefings is saying not aliens. They're not saying extraterrestrials.
Speaker 2: They're saying words like, and I got a list of
Speaker 2: them here for you, because this is how many there are.
Speaker 2: They're saying words like non human intelligence, unidentified aerial phenomena,
Speaker 2: unidentified anomalist phenomena, non human, interdimensional, recessive dogmatic et races human. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're saying subspace C equals H types. They're saying recessive
Speaker 2: extra terrestrial races. They're saying, oh.
Speaker 1: What was that one that sounded like you were trying
Speaker 1: to control all delete your keyboard? What was that one?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, subspace C equals H types, like.
Speaker 1: These subspace C equals H types?
Speaker 2: Yeah, alright again again, who is gonna search for that
Speaker 2: on a on a four year request?
Speaker 1: What the fuck does that even mean? Like I understand
Speaker 1: you're saying, like, okay, we're carbon based life forms, so
Speaker 1: these might be some other type H is hydrogen. So
Speaker 1: you're saying these are these.
Speaker 2: Are carbon equals hydrogen types right there? They might be
Speaker 2: some that might be something related to that.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair maybe fuck.
Speaker 2: So then you got recessive non human ets, non human
Speaker 2: intelligent life, non human life forms, ultra terrestrials, non human biologics,
Speaker 2: non human biological materials, technologies of unknown origin, sentient intelligent,
Speaker 2: non human life form.
Speaker 3: I heard one the other day.
Speaker 2: It's called synthetic astrobiology terrestrial race. This is a new one, Saber, right,
Speaker 2: synthetic Yeah, astrobiology terrestrial race.
Speaker 1: Okay, so my favorites might be Saber and the ultra terrestrials.
Speaker 1: I think that I think ultraterrestrial might take the cake
Speaker 1: for me personally. I like that a lot.
Speaker 2: Well, that was the word that actually got me interested
Speaker 2: in like why are these Why is this word ultraterrestrial
Speaker 2: being used? And basically that means that they are not
Speaker 2: from They're not extraterrestrial and not coming from terrains that
Speaker 2: are extra They are ultra means they're part of the terrain.
Speaker 2: And that's the kind of stuff that really got me
Speaker 2: down the path of like that whole are they matter
Speaker 2: versus antimatter? And I've talked about it again on Temple
Speaker 2: Hat as well as neffl on Des Squad we talked
Speaker 2: about it a little bit, and I've talked a lot
Speaker 2: about it on my own show. But so essentially these
Speaker 2: it starts off as matter versus antimatter. We're matter, they
Speaker 2: are antimatter, and they exist the same way.
Speaker 3: This is kind of a condensed version.
Speaker 2: They exist. Think of it like a balloon. They are
Speaker 2: the space they You know, matter is anything that has
Speaker 2: mass and takes up space. Right, what is mass? The
Speaker 2: way I can tell you what mass is, I think
Speaker 2: that they are mass. The it's the expansion that they are.
Speaker 2: They are. They continuously expand and expand, expand, and their
Speaker 2: expansion helps us create continue to create life. And again
Speaker 2: I don't want to, I don't wanna. This wasn't supposed
Speaker 2: to be about all of that. But essentially, during the
Speaker 2: Big Bang there's matter versus antimatter. Boom, there's an explosion,
Speaker 2: and out of that explosion of photon of light is
Speaker 2: exhibited or is released. That photon of light animates the matter.
Speaker 2: What happens to the antimatter, the antimatter, the residue from
Speaker 2: that explosion is the anti matter. It becomes dark matter,
Speaker 2: and dark matter continuously expands.
Speaker 3: Okay, so long story short.
Speaker 2: They use plasma to get in to come into our reality.
Speaker 1: So correct me if I'm wrong. You are or are
Speaker 1: not a flat earther as of this moment.
Speaker 2: I'm not an either. I mean, I don't really know.
Speaker 2: I don't think it matters. I think it does matter,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't matter because I think regardless there's a sun,
Speaker 2: the Sun will hit the Earth on a certain spot
Speaker 2: of the day, and I think that that's the only
Speaker 2: thing that really matters to me. I'm not taking the
Speaker 2: shitty way out right. I'm not saying like I'm actually
Speaker 2: more of like it's a tole royal Earth where it's
Speaker 2: like in the energy field that is continuously you know,
Speaker 2: putting off a magnetic field.
Speaker 3: That's kind of what I think it is.
Speaker 2: It's a crystal lattice that have formed over time on
Speaker 2: top of this energy field.
Speaker 3: And again that crystal.
Speaker 2: Lattice is made out of all these different space dusts,
Speaker 2: and one of the biggest one is silicon. And there's
Speaker 2: a reason why that is because silicone is highly conductive.
Speaker 2: It's like it's so plasma is out there in space,
Speaker 2: it's kind of dispersed. Sun hits it, the Sun keeps
Speaker 2: it kind of electrified in the soup of ions. When
Speaker 2: the Sun cools, they form into what's called complex plasma.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it depends on if there's a space dust to
Speaker 2: attach itself to.
Speaker 3: And the most.
Speaker 2: Usable space dust is silicon. This is why you get
Speaker 2: you see Silicon Valley, and all these words are being
Speaker 2: used because silicon is the is what this is like
Speaker 2: the sem It's like the semiconductor of all of the technology.
Speaker 2: And that's the same in space. You have silicone in
Speaker 2: space and complex plasmas are actually supercomputers. They're literally supercomputers.
Speaker 2: They're not digital like we know them. They're analog. That
Speaker 2: means that that little speck of dust, that silicone that's
Speaker 2: in the center of the crystal lattice that forms within
Speaker 2: complex plasma, it's like a node of the brain. That
Speaker 2: thing stores information on it. It's an analog storing device.
Speaker 2: And so when you see words like synthetic, astrobiology, terrestrial race,
Speaker 2: they might be actually creating these kinds of races, these
Speaker 2: kinds of biologics and things like that.
Speaker 1: So by creating, do you mean something akin to clones
Speaker 1: or drones? And I don't mean drones in the sense
Speaker 1: of the earth bound you know, for propeller little thing
Speaker 1: that people are using in Ukraine and Russian shit. I
Speaker 1: mean drones as in like a like a worker bee
Speaker 1: of the hive mind or something like that. Do you
Speaker 1: mean something akin to this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because what non human intelligence is is complex plasma.
Speaker 2: It is literally that's what it is. So plasma is
Speaker 2: like is the best way to describe the plasma is
Speaker 2: like when you look up at the sky and the
Speaker 2: ionosphere is blue during the day, what is happening is
Speaker 2: there's an air glow that's being put off. What So,
Speaker 2: the sun hits the plasma, the complex plasma that's always
Speaker 2: in the sky at night. The sun hits the complex
Speaker 2: plasma and disperses it into a plasma, which is a
Speaker 2: sup of ions and free electrons. And when the sun
Speaker 2: goes away, it cools and quickly forms back into a
Speaker 2: complex plasma because it is self organizing. That's what complex
Speaker 2: plasma is, self organizing, and it's highly intelligent. So when
Speaker 2: people are talking about non human intelligence, they're literally talking
Speaker 2: about plasma. They're talking about complex dusty plasma, Okay, And.
Speaker 3: So this is why they're using these words, and this.
Speaker 2: Is why they're using all this other recessive and extra
Speaker 2: you know, all this other subspace each equals h types
Speaker 2: because I really do think that there are different types
Speaker 2: of these plasmas in different regions, different areas. Like in
Speaker 2: the Earth's crust you have magnetite, and magnetite is a
Speaker 2: mineral that's found in all rocks and when and it's
Speaker 2: encased in iron, and when the Sun, I know, I'm
Speaker 2: kind of going, I know, I know, it's hard, hard
Speaker 2: to follow. Do you believe me?
Speaker 1: Hey, we're here, brother, I'm here.
Speaker 2: The Sun is a giant magnet. Earth is a giant magnet.
Speaker 2: When the Sun crosses the Earth, whether that's flat Earth
Speaker 2: or rotating, I don't care. Whenever it crosses the Earth
Speaker 2: at a certain time a day, those two magnets create induction,
Speaker 2: which is fair Day's law of induction. It creates and
Speaker 2: all like current that electrical current unlocks magnetite and releases
Speaker 2: all these noble gases. Well, noble gases are what I
Speaker 2: think antimatter attaches itself to to then attach itself to
Speaker 2: plasma to come into our reality. So it goes antimatter,
Speaker 2: dark matter, noble gases, and then plasma and then complex
Speaker 2: dusty plasma. This is the path I think for the
Speaker 2: dark forces, the demons, the thing. This is the void.
Speaker 2: What I was just saying with the mass, anything that
Speaker 2: has mass and takes up space is I think I
Speaker 2: think it is space. I think they are space. It's
Speaker 2: the negative. And if you think about your body, there's
Speaker 2: so many voids in your body, in between every neural
Speaker 2: node and your brain and all.
Speaker 3: This other stuff.
Speaker 2: It's empty space, and in one little node that connects
Speaker 2: to a bunch of other nodes. So I think that
Speaker 2: they are part of that empty space. They are the void.
Speaker 2: They are lightless, they are there's no light there because
Speaker 2: light disperses them back into the ether.
Speaker 3: I know if kind of going.
Speaker 1: Way, No, no, you're good. So circling back to the
Speaker 1: situation in New Jersey and New York and Pennsylvania just
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, where we had these glowing
Speaker 1: lights in the sky. Some are saying they were orbs,
Speaker 1: some are saying they were clearly drone. Some are saying
Speaker 1: they're clearly aliens or ups or whatever the case. I
Speaker 1: agree with you as far as the disclosure is concerned,
Speaker 1: because we have bipartisan cover up on this. Republicans, Democrats,
Speaker 1: junior senators or people that have been in DC for
Speaker 1: thirty five years, everybody all said, oh, that that's nothing,
Speaker 1: don't worry about that. Wait, wait what now? Wait? Listen, listen,
Speaker 1: they're not enemy, but they're not ours, but they're not
Speaker 1: going to hurt you, and you don't need worry about that.
Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, pause, I understand that not all
Speaker 1: of you are very well read into astrophysics and energy
Speaker 1: and what these things might be. But the fact that
Speaker 1: every single one of you are not even asking questions.
Speaker 1: You are all somehow you're not read in on what
Speaker 1: they are, but you're certainly read in enough to not
Speaker 1: be concerned about it, regardless of what political affiliation you have.
Speaker 1: That's worrying to me. I can't even think of a
Speaker 1: more massive red flag on the play. And so you
Speaker 1: are saying that this was something of the energy variety.
Speaker 2: One percent energy. It's all energy. It's all solar cycles
Speaker 2: and energy, plasma, electromagnetics, all the stuff that nobody's talking
Speaker 2: about in any of these things. They're like, none of
Speaker 2: these disclosure films are talking about this, none of these
Speaker 2: disclosure hearings are talking about this. And that's that's what
Speaker 2: it is. It's you know, when something can come in
Speaker 2: and out of reality, when when something can hover over
Speaker 2: nuclear bases and dismantle stuff, and then they're like, ah,
Speaker 2: no big deal, I mean, that would be a big,
Speaker 2: pretty big deal for if that was some kind of
Speaker 2: a real, you know, threat to national security. But the
Speaker 2: fact that there's nothing they can do about it because
Speaker 2: complex plasma is all around us all the time at
Speaker 2: night especially, and it needs electromagnetic energy to stay coherent.
Speaker 2: And when the sun comes out, it becomes very incoherent
Speaker 2: and disperses it because the heat heats up that silicon
Speaker 2: that's in the center of those crystal lattices within complex plasma,
Speaker 2: and it disperses too much energy, it disperses it back
Speaker 2: into plasma. So they need they need these complex plasmas
Speaker 2: need a low energy field to keep them sustained.
Speaker 3: And this is where.
Speaker 2: You're talking about UAPs and ball lightning and all this plasmoids.
Speaker 2: That's what that is. Because when something, when a plasma,
Speaker 2: a complex plasma, hits a magnetic field, it becomes a plasmoid,
Speaker 2: which is a plasma toroid. It becomes a golden halo,
Speaker 2: a golden halo. This is honestly where I think the
Speaker 2: idea of angels came from, because there's a guy named
Speaker 2: Winston Bostic who studied this in the sixties and he
Speaker 2: was shooting plasma into a magnetic field on accident. He
Speaker 2: was just studying something else and he saw that it
Speaker 2: was creating these little halos, these little golden sonic rings
Speaker 2: flying all over the place, and it was trans medium,
Speaker 2: was going through walls and stuff like that. So then
Speaker 2: he started shooting them at each other and it was
Speaker 2: they were forming these coherent structures like this complex plasma. Wow.
Speaker 2: So the complex plasma, I mean, I'm sorry, not the complex,
Speaker 2: but he was shooting complex plasmas at these magnetic field
Speaker 2: and it was becoming plasma toroids or plasmoids. Once these
Speaker 2: plasmoids become coherent, they form a little orb of like
Speaker 2: if you look up at stars, that's what stars are, dude,
Speaker 2: It like a you see a constant what looks like
Speaker 2: electrical field in these stars, right, it looks like they're
Speaker 2: underwater or whatever. Well that's what these things are forming
Speaker 2: as well. They're forming like stars that can inhabit or
Speaker 2: be on in Earth's at me sphere. And so so anyways,
Speaker 2: that the Jellyfish UFO video that Jeremyslopel release.
Speaker 3: Have you seen that one?
Speaker 1: Oh, I've seen it quite a few times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you and I have talked about this as
Speaker 2: on this show. Before, we've talked about complex plasmas and
Speaker 2: all this other stuff and plasma portals. So Jeremy Corbel's
Speaker 2: video is a comp plasma. It's just a big clump
Speaker 2: of things flying around. You can't see it can only
Speaker 2: be seen with like infrared type things, and it flies
Speaker 2: around until it finds a magnetic field, which is usually
Speaker 2: at these portal locations like stone hinge and pyramids and
Speaker 2: all this other other stuff. I think that this intelligence
Speaker 2: has been tricking people for thousands of years to create
Speaker 2: these portal locations so they can enter into our into
Speaker 2: our atmosphere, into our reality, because they need a sustained
Speaker 2: electromagnetic field to stay coherent. They need the need the end.
Speaker 2: So this is what lay lines are too.
Speaker 1: By the way, Okay, so explain this to me now.
Speaker 1: There you're saying that these plasmoids are forming as a
Speaker 1: result of our environment. For lack of better words, I'm
Speaker 1: oversimplifying it here. But it's not like these are coming
Speaker 1: from another dimension or another planet or something like that.
Speaker 1: These what we are seeing are not intelligent life. It's
Speaker 1: more like it's more like a vorticee in the water.
Speaker 1: Right when there's a boat and a propeller takes off.
Speaker 1: You see the swirls in the water. The swirl is
Speaker 1: not an intelligent being in and of itself. It's a
Speaker 1: reaction caused by something. You're saying that these plasmoids are
Speaker 1: something more akin to that. Correct.
Speaker 2: Yep, they and they and they happen. They form because
Speaker 2: of solar cycles. They they the solar cycles, which is
Speaker 2: the cycles of the Sun, which is eleven years, has
Speaker 2: a major effect on the turbulence and on the how
Speaker 2: cohi they stay together. And at the end of every
Speaker 2: solar cycle, it's called solar minimum. About halfway through you
Speaker 2: get solar maximum. Well, October twenty twenty four was the
Speaker 2: start of solar maximum, and November December when we started
Speaker 2: seeing all the Jerseys drones in the air.
Speaker 1: Okay, you get.
Speaker 2: More anomalous plasma, you get more anomalous complex plasma when
Speaker 2: there's a solar storm during solar maximum. So it happens
Speaker 2: during solar maximum, the poles of the Sun reverse and
Speaker 2: it causes a major disturbance. So I think all this stuff,
Speaker 2: I think that they've been trying to I think that they,
Speaker 2: the governments of the world, were afraid that there was
Speaker 2: going to be some major upheaval in the magnetic field,
Speaker 2: maybe pole reversals or something in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Four, because it's the it's.
Speaker 2: The strongest solar storm we've had on record in for
Speaker 2: as long as we have recorded this history, right, And
Speaker 2: this happened at solar maximum, and we're on the decline
Speaker 2: out of solar maximum right now. Solar minimum is when
Speaker 2: these plasmoids are more core coherent. Well, twenty nineteen December
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen was the end of solar was the end
Speaker 2: of the last solar cycle?
Speaker 1: And how long does that take to go? A solar cycle?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 1: Like, what twenty five years?
Speaker 2: Year eleven?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Wow? So the next the next solar minimum is twenty thirty,
Speaker 2: twenty thirty. Yeah. So this is why people were like, hey,
Speaker 2: something crazy is gonna happen in twenty twenty five or
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, because they think that I think that
Speaker 2: they think that some major magnetic geomagnetic storm, some solar
Speaker 2: storm is gonna wipe out the grid or something bad
Speaker 2: is going to happen. So what happens during a solar
Speaker 2: storm at solar maximum when you got heavy solar winds
Speaker 2: pushing up against magnetosphere of Earth which is the big shield,
Speaker 2: which is the firmament in my opinion, around Earth. It
Speaker 2: protects us from solar radiation when you get heavy solar
Speaker 2: winds pushing up against that magnetosphere. It so how it
Speaker 2: normally works. So let's just say that Earth is round.
Speaker 2: At the north pole is the auroras. The Aurora Borealis
Speaker 2: at the south pole is Aurora Australia. Yes, okay. The
Speaker 2: reason why those two, the reason why we have auroras
Speaker 2: is because the magnetosphere is protecting those solar winds, protecting
Speaker 2: us from solar winds, and they enter Earth's atmosphere at
Speaker 2: the top. Those solar winds enter Earth's atmosphere at the
Speaker 2: top and the bottom of Earth through what's called Broklan currents.
Speaker 2: Those Brooklan currents hit our atmosphere which is oxygen, nitrogen,
Speaker 2: and helium, and it spreads across, so those are called
Speaker 2: Peterson currents, and it spreads across. I say, electrifies, and
Speaker 2: it gives off a glow. And this is why we
Speaker 2: see red and green and blue because those are different
Speaker 2: gases given off a different glow. So it electrifies the
Speaker 2: whole Earth, It electrifies the sky well. During solar maximum
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, the magnetosphere was so compressed because
Speaker 2: of the solar winds that it lowered the latitudes that
Speaker 2: we were seeing the auroras. So that's why people were
Speaker 2: seeing in Louisiana. Bro.
Speaker 1: And it blew my mind when people were seeing them
Speaker 1: in Louisiana, the northern lights in Cajun Country, that like,
Speaker 1: what are we talking about here? Yeah? And then your
Speaker 1: neck of the woods too, they were seeing it.
Speaker 2: Weren't thing yeah we saw in South Carolina.
Speaker 1: God dog, I mean it sucks because the night that
Speaker 1: we were supposed to be able to see them, we
Speaker 1: had like stupid cloud coverage in my area, so we
Speaker 1: couldn't see anything. Anyway. I look on the next day
Speaker 1: and there's so many Facebook videos of people seeing this,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, of course the one shot, the one
Speaker 1: time probably in my life were ever half something like this,
Speaker 1: and of course I can't see nothing. But then it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, as I'm feeling this way, one of the
Speaker 1: real life chances that I'm probably gonna get another shot
Speaker 1: to see that in Louisiana. And I know out loud
Speaker 1: that sounds crazy, but like, given another two years, and
Speaker 1: I just feel like some crazy other anomalous thing is
Speaker 1: going to take place. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, according to the solar cycles, you will see it
Speaker 2: in twenty thirty six, because that's the way that next
Speaker 2: solar maximum is going to be.
Speaker 1: No, explain this to me. And I know you're not
Speaker 1: an astrophysicist or anything like this, but if that is true,
Speaker 1: and this happens every eleven years on repeat, how can
Speaker 1: we haven't seen the Aurora borealis in Louisiana up until
Speaker 1: this point, like throughout the course of human history what.
Speaker 2: We have, but it's just been played down like we haven't,
Speaker 2: we haven't. It's it's also think about this. If there's
Speaker 2: a strong if it's the strongest solar winds ever, then
Speaker 2: it's going to compress it even further from the north
Speaker 2: pole all the way down to Louisiana. Okay, So the
Speaker 2: strongest wins ever, this is the strongest one recorded, It
Speaker 2: compresses it down. Now it happens regularly every twenty thirty six,
Speaker 2: right every eleven years or whatever, the midpoint of every eleven.
Speaker 3: Of the solar cycles. Okay, so it might not be
Speaker 3: as strong.
Speaker 2: It'll might maybe it'll press it down to Ohio region
Speaker 2: you're seeing it in Ohio.
Speaker 3: But it does compress it.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't always compress it down as far as
Speaker 2: Louisiana or Texas or whatever.
Speaker 1: Okay, this makes more sense. IM about to say, Brother,
Speaker 1: I've been a lot of thirty three years, and I
Speaker 1: know I have not seen three rounds of this shit
Speaker 1: in my life, or even two for that matter. But okay,
Speaker 1: this makes sense. So the conditions were right for them
Speaker 1: to be compressed down enough to get closer and closer
Speaker 1: to the equator more than we've had in the last
Speaker 1: I don't know, two hundred years or however long we've
Speaker 1: been really observing and recording this type of shit. So okay,
Speaker 1: I get what you're going here.
Speaker 2: So you got to think about it from the point
Speaker 2: from I mean, I'm assuming from the point of the government, right,
Speaker 2: And they're like, we don't want to tell nobody about
Speaker 2: this because we don't know what's gonna happen when this
Speaker 2: thing presses the magnetosphere down so much that there's a
Speaker 2: spillover of solar winds and solar particles coming all the
Speaker 2: way down as far as Louisiana and New Mexico or wherever.
Speaker 2: They're like, what in the world's gonna happen. They're probably
Speaker 2: freaking hell out because again, they've never seen this in
Speaker 2: recorded history. They don't never, never see a solar storm
Speaker 2: so strong. So anyways, point of all that is is
Speaker 2: if they're not talking about the Department, if they're not
Speaker 2: talking to the Department of Energy, it's all horseshit, It
Speaker 2: really is. It's just it's just. That's all you can
Speaker 2: say about that is just there's nothing more to it
Speaker 2: than that. Because and here's and here's another reason why
Speaker 2: I know that. And let's go back to the Dan
Speaker 2: Farrah thing. Okay, I told you I was going to
Speaker 2: talk about propaganda. Sorry, changing my lighting now.
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Speaker 1: to what we were talking about here, So you are
Speaker 1: of the belief that there is zero percent shot that
Speaker 1: what was going on in New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: all those things just a hop and a skip away,
Speaker 1: a go right, zero percent that that was actually man
Speaker 1: made drones. No, there's no way explain.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, that, this is the most the
Speaker 2: solar maximum was whenever this was happening, and so this
Speaker 2: is the most anomalous time for or plasma complex plasma.
Speaker 2: It's not coherent, it's forming and reforming, forming and reforming
Speaker 2: because it's so the solar winds are so turbulent, and
Speaker 2: so yeah, I mean, this was the opportunity for them,
Speaker 2: by the way, for disclosure, this was the time for
Speaker 2: them to say millions of people have seen this, thousands
Speaker 2: of videos.
Speaker 3: Out there online, here's what's really going on.
Speaker 2: But they didn't do that. Now, the only reason I
Speaker 2: think that they didn't do that is because it's demonic.
Speaker 2: That's just what I believe.
Speaker 1: Now, you have to dive into this one. So if
Speaker 1: this was something I'm going to use the term natural
Speaker 1: very big quote unquote, underline, italicized, bolt the word whatever
Speaker 1: you want to do on that one. But if this
Speaker 1: was something naturally happening because of the solar radiation plus
Speaker 1: the atmospheric pressure or whatever the case, as I say that,
Speaker 1: I know this very much sounds like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: it was sunlight refracted off of Venus through some swamp gas.
Speaker 1: And that's I know what it sounds like out loud,
Speaker 1: but hear me out. Okay. If this was something that
Speaker 1: was occurring naturally, they could be explained away through science.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they explain it? Why wouldn't they disclose that?
Speaker 1: And then, as adendum to that question, why then do
Speaker 1: you believe that this was obviously demonic? Like I make
Speaker 1: these connections for me.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that. Well, in the Bible, first, let's
Speaker 2: just start off with the I can't I can't remember
Speaker 2: the verse exactly.
Speaker 3: It might be in Luke maybe Luke twenty one.
Speaker 2: Where Jesus saw like he saw satan fall like heaven.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, he saw satan fall like lightning from heaven? Sure, sure, well,
Speaker 2: lightning is plasma. And so when you start looking at
Speaker 2: like all the verses in the Bible, it talks about
Speaker 2: like we were talking about the gates of Hell, right,
Speaker 2: we're talking about the gates of Hades where Jesus built
Speaker 2: his church on top of the gates of Hades to
Speaker 2: prevent demonic things from coming out.
Speaker 3: These these this is where he locked Satan.
Speaker 2: I believe this. I actually think Satan is still locked
Speaker 2: away there. And I kind of have this like we're
Speaker 2: working theory of like maybe a little season is not
Speaker 2: actually like two hundred years, but more like every day
Speaker 2: or every eleven years maybe since it's a solar cycle.
Speaker 1: Now with that, do you believe that Satan is running
Speaker 1: the world right now from.
Speaker 3: From the depths of Hell?
Speaker 2: Right? I think he's yeah, okay, but I think that
Speaker 2: I think the demons are like, you know, running a
Speaker 2: muck there there inhabiting bodies.
Speaker 3: But getting back to what I was saying.
Speaker 2: About the Bible, right, it's like you see all these
Speaker 2: things in the Bible talking about iron, Well, iron it
Speaker 2: grounds etheric energy. This is why we have iron gates
Speaker 2: around cemeteries. It keeps the spirits in, it keeps the
Speaker 2: energy in, and magnetite is encased in iron. It's like
Speaker 2: seventy five percent iron. And so when you were when
Speaker 2: we were talking about swamp gases, right, that's what that is.
Speaker 2: It's it's uh so you have magnetite, which is a mineral,
Speaker 2: and inside the magnetite it has all of the different
Speaker 2: types of noble gases xenon and all these other differences. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: when again, when electric current unlocks that these noble gases
Speaker 2: are released, These noble gases interact with the atmosphere to
Speaker 2: become plasma. This plasma becomes complex plasma. This complex plasma
Speaker 2: becomes uh touroids, plasma toroids, which become orbs, which then
Speaker 2: become Bigfoot and aliens and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, you're putting bigfoot and aliens in the same
Speaker 1: the same, all of it playing field here.
Speaker 2: It's all of it. It's all. They're all demand, they're all,
Speaker 2: they all exist. Think about it like this with I
Speaker 2: was talking about matter and antimatter, and how antimatter is
Speaker 2: now the dark matter that's expanding.
Speaker 3: It's expanding.
Speaker 2: So matter has in the beginning in the Big Bang. Remember,
Speaker 2: God created the light in the dark. It says it
Speaker 2: in the bottle. God said I created the light in
Speaker 2: the dark. So he created matter and antimatter. Well, they're
Speaker 2: annihilating each other over and over. They're banging against each other, right,
Speaker 2: this is why, this is why they call it the
Speaker 2: particle collider. They're trying to recreate that big bang. They're
Speaker 2: trying to recreate the what happens to anti matter. And
Speaker 2: this is why they have Antimatter Day on October thirty first,
Speaker 2: which is the start of the start of the dark
Speaker 2: half of the year. Okay, So so Cern and all
Speaker 2: these people they're they're they look at it as antimatter
Speaker 2: is the most important element or the most important thing,
Speaker 2: is the creator of this universe. And that's how I
Speaker 2: think that they see it. They see that the dark
Speaker 2: forces is what actually creates the material, which.
Speaker 1: My mind blowing to me out loud. I don't understand it,
Speaker 1: Like I don't understand the logic that they're using. Let
Speaker 1: me put it like that. They can lay it out
Speaker 1: and put it all on a whiteboard and you can
Speaker 1: like see how the math equates. I'm sorry, you're telling
Speaker 1: me that antimatter is the reason that matter exists, when
Speaker 1: antimatter is more like a black hole which takes away
Speaker 1: matter that out loud. This makes no fucking sense stock,
Speaker 1: but like, sure, let's run it.
Speaker 2: I guess well, the dark matter is what creates gravity.
Speaker 2: It creates a gravitational field of the material. And so
Speaker 2: think about it like this. This is how I like
Speaker 2: to think of it in my mind. I don't know
Speaker 2: how accurate it is. But God's blowing up a balloon.
Speaker 2: He blows his breath into a balloon. Which is the balloon?
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it air or is it a rubber?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Because the majority of it is air, and that majority
Speaker 2: of the air would be what we call the dark matter.
Speaker 2: So dark matter only exists to create light. It only
Speaker 2: exists to continue the expansion of material because out of
Speaker 2: the when the matter and the anti matter were annihilating
Speaker 2: each other at the beginning, over and over and over,
Speaker 2: there were a billion particles matter and a billion particles
Speaker 2: anti matter. Name it boom boom explode. Right, Somehow matter
Speaker 2: gained one more particle and continued on. Meanwhile, they science
Speaker 2: will tell you that dark matter disappeared. I mean, the
Speaker 2: antimatter disappeared, but it didn't disappear. It became residue. That
Speaker 2: residue is the dark matter that continues to expand. It's
Speaker 2: the space.
Speaker 3: It's what continues to expand space.
Speaker 2: Now, I'll put it like this, there is no real
Speaker 2: space out there where we got a James Webb t
Speaker 2: let's go flying through space.
Speaker 3: None of that.
Speaker 2: I don't believe any of that stuff. I think space
Speaker 2: is everything that's around us right now, like this, all
Speaker 2: this stuff in here right now, everything in between the
Speaker 2: nodes of our brain, all this other stuff. I believe
Speaker 2: that though, that is the space. So the reason I
Speaker 2: say that is because they have this thing called a
Speaker 2: loosefer telescope, right, yeah, the Vaticans that had it in
Speaker 2: Arizona wherever it's at. The telescope is a it has
Speaker 2: to be cryogenically cooled down, which means so it has
Speaker 2: to be crysentically cool down to see into the infrared.
Speaker 2: And what it has inside that telescope is a reverse prism.
Speaker 2: And remember that prisms. You shine a white light through
Speaker 2: a prism, it refracts into the colors. This is why
Speaker 2: I think that we are human beings, Hue, we're color
Speaker 2: beings because God's light is the Sun. It's shining through
Speaker 2: the firmament and it's refracting into us. Are light. We
Speaker 2: are light beings, we're human, we're eight color beings.
Speaker 1: So you don't believe the moon is a actual thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, okay. I think it
Speaker 2: acts more like a capacitor or something like some kind
Speaker 2: of an energy store for the Sun. If that makes
Speaker 2: almost like a battery. Okay, So a positive and a negative.
Speaker 1: Now let's dive into the propaganda associated with the moon.
Speaker 1: So right now, there are three countries that are fighting
Speaker 1: for who's gonna make a lunar base happen first, America, Russia,
Speaker 1: and China, and all of them want to set up
Speaker 1: a lunar base on the dark side of the Moon
Speaker 1: and power with nuclear power. Now I've looked into it, bro,
Speaker 1: and I understand that I'm not anywhere near a nuclear physicist.
Speaker 1: I get this. I don't understand how they're trying to
Speaker 1: make a nuclear reactor work on the Moon, because to
Speaker 1: make a nuclear reactor happen, you need steam. You need
Speaker 1: flow through a tube with fans in it. You're turning
Speaker 1: a turban to make power happen. You're not doing that
Speaker 1: in the vacuum of space, unless it's some sort of weird,
Speaker 1: self contained inclosed system. But If that's the case, then
Speaker 1: you have a whole litany of other problems on the
Speaker 1: other end as far as like energy dilution goes. Right, So,
Speaker 1: like let's say that you're taking the steam, you're collecting
Speaker 1: it water, letting condens down, and recycling it. Okay, now
Speaker 1: you have energy drop. So at that point, nuclear power
Speaker 1: is about a one to one ratio, which is not
Speaker 1: gonna be enough to power some sort of a lunar base.
Speaker 1: But I digress. Like I said, I'm not an expert
Speaker 1: on this. It just makes no goddamn sense to me.
Speaker 1: But whatever, Fine, fine, so hold on, we got three
Speaker 1: countries that are all vying for who's gonna set up
Speaker 1: a lunar base. First. You think I'm just making sure
Speaker 1: I understand it here. This is all a part of
Speaker 1: the propaganda.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely is.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think there's there's I think everybody knows that
Speaker 2: we can't go beyond the firmament, which is the magnetosphere,
Speaker 2: because just beyond that we're basically in that is the
Speaker 2: Van Allen radiation belt. We can't get has that the
Speaker 2: top three layers of the Earth's atmosphere. So remember we
Speaker 2: have the troposphere that we're in, then the stratosphere, then
Speaker 2: the mesosphere, then the thermosphere, and then the exosphere. Well
Speaker 2: the top three layers.
Speaker 1: Where's the ionosphere in all of that. I've actually never
Speaker 1: looked at it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what was gonna say.
Speaker 2: The ionosphere is actually the top three layers. There's all
Speaker 2: three of them. And people think that it's actually they
Speaker 2: think that it's like super cold, but it's actually not.
Speaker 2: It's actually super hot. It's so hot that it feels cold.
Speaker 2: But regardless of what I'm trying to say here, but
Speaker 2: when we shoot a satellite into space or when we
Speaker 2: bounce it, you know how we had used to have
Speaker 2: those satellites back in the day in the eighties where
Speaker 2: you get cable, Yeah, you know those giant satellites that
Speaker 2: and they had them angled at a certain way. Whenever
Speaker 2: it or rain, it would mess up the signal and
Speaker 2: all this other stuff.
Speaker 1: God, I remember when we tried swapping a dish network
Speaker 1: in my house. That was the worst decision ever. We
Speaker 1: only really needed it whenever the weather was bad to
Speaker 1: see like what the hurricane was doing or whatever. If
Speaker 1: there was even decent cloud covers that satellite dish wouldn't
Speaker 1: account for shit.
Speaker 2: It was horrible. And why is that because clouds were
Speaker 2: blocking the Iono sphere. Because when when you have a satellite,
Speaker 2: satellite is we have nothing in space. People think that
Speaker 2: the ISS is in space. It's not in space. It's
Speaker 2: actually in like the thermosphere.
Speaker 3: It's not in space. We have nothing in space.
Speaker 1: It's like that Blue Origin rocket, that giant dick rocket
Speaker 1: that Katie Perry and her homegirls went on. First of all,
Speaker 1: I don't even believe that actually went up.
Speaker 2: Gonna be realized a stratosphere pretty much.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that went up into the sky. Dude,
Speaker 1: from the way that your boy ol uh oh, damn
Speaker 1: Amazon boy helped me out. I have his face. I
Speaker 1: can't think of his name.
Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 1: Bezos, that's the guy. It lands and within like a ninny,
Speaker 1: he's walking up and putting his hand on the door
Speaker 1: and like, I'm sorry if that just re entered the atmosphere,
Speaker 1: Like we've been told for so long, that bit to
Speaker 1: be so hot you would need a good and then
Speaker 1: to let that cool down. Meanwhile, the thing looks like
Speaker 1: an inflatable. It looks like a fucking bouncy house. But
Speaker 1: like all right, Sure, But okay, so you're saying that
Speaker 1: if the narrative is true and if these women went
Speaker 1: to space, which not whatever, anyway, they went to low
Speaker 1: level troposphere.
Speaker 2: If that yeah, basically or stratosphere.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: They're not going to the ionosphere. It's so the plasma
Speaker 2: is so chaotic there that there you can't get anything
Speaker 2: through it. So this is actually what I think was happening.
Speaker 2: This is I think that the government's probably freaking out about.
Speaker 2: Is during solar maximum is also like communications and everything,
Speaker 2: electrical grid's going down, all this stuff if it messes
Speaker 2: with the ionosphere, because the ionosphere is you shoot a
Speaker 2: satellite up to the ionosphere, it bounces off the ionosphere
Speaker 2: and down to the receiver. That's how satellites work. They're
Speaker 2: not going into space and they're not hitting the satellite
Speaker 2: that's in orb or that's complete horseshit.
Speaker 3: They're not doing that.
Speaker 2: It's literally bouncing off the ionosphere and bouncing down to
Speaker 2: the receiver. And so I think that they were freaking
Speaker 2: out because like what happens if all communications go down,
Speaker 2: all the electrical grid goes down, all this other stuff.
Speaker 2: That's what I think the propaganda cover is with all this,
Speaker 2: and also the demonic side of things too, because I
Speaker 2: think that we have people in our government who are
Speaker 2: working with this non human intelligence to find them oqutarians
Speaker 2: to inhabit this earth, if that makes any sense, because
Speaker 2: they can't even if they're complex plasma that is in
Speaker 2: Earth's atmosphere right now or this in the troposphere right now,
Speaker 2: they can't really do nothing. They can't experience the things
Speaker 2: that we can experience, right They can't smoke cigarettes and
Speaker 2: have sex and you know, have kids and all this
Speaker 2: other stuff, and so I can't well, I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I think that they are because that's how
Speaker 2: God made them. God made them void, dark.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about the demonic forces now now we
Speaker 1: get into the conversation of the nephilom. So clearly these
Speaker 1: entities were able to fuck at one point in time,
Speaker 1: not saying they can't now or not, but at least
Speaker 1: they were able to shape shift to one point, correct.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they were at one point. They were
Speaker 2: angels who watched over Earth.
Speaker 1: Right, and they fell right.
Speaker 2: This was in Revelation what is at twelve where the
Speaker 2: the dragon swept a third of the stars, right, we're
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean in Genesis they talk about it, but
Speaker 1: then yeah, in Revelation they talk about it as well,
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2: So stars are plasma. And again, every you can no
Speaker 2: matter what what name you put on, lightning, plo. You know, fire,
Speaker 2: fire has plasma as well. All this stuff glowing orbs
Speaker 2: of light, all this, you know, Cherry, it's a fire,
Speaker 2: all this stuff. Right, it's like all of this.
Speaker 3: Is saying the same thing. It's like a plasma.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I think that a third of the
Speaker 2: angels was swept down from Heaven and they are the
Speaker 2: disembodied entities that inhabit Earth. And one place, one area
Speaker 2: that I'm not completely sure of is they come from
Speaker 2: the ocean as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the unidentified submersible phenomenon the USPS, I've heard of,
Speaker 1: and to be honest with you, that's always blown my mind.
Speaker 1: You'll and we've heard testimonies of pilots who this thing
Speaker 1: dropped from thirty thousand feet to three feet above the
Speaker 1: surface of the ocean in the matter of a second.
Speaker 1: When you do the math on that, we're talking about
Speaker 1: mock seventeen like it or higher, like we're talking about
Speaker 1: literal mock fuck something that humans do not have the
Speaker 1: ability to. We don't have the materials to build something
Speaker 1: to go that fast. I'm we just don't, right. And
Speaker 1: then it goes into the water. It gets picked up
Speaker 1: by a submarine in the water, so we know that
Speaker 1: it absolutely went into the water, didn't make a splash
Speaker 1: or anything, and it's still able to maintain that level
Speaker 1: of speed underwater. This makes no sense whatsoever, But multiple pilots, submariners,
Speaker 1: all these things are able to come forward years later
Speaker 1: and say, no, we saw this. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: what it was, what it wasn't. What I will say
Speaker 1: is this thing absolutely did take place.
Speaker 2: That's interesting when you see so I know, I'm a
Speaker 2: little bit all over the place, but when you see
Speaker 2: a metal sphere, what you're seeing is there's a plasmoid
Speaker 2: in the middle of that and it has a metal
Speaker 2: casing around it to protect it from God's light, because
Speaker 2: God's light will disperse it back. So what I was
Speaker 2: getting at a while ago is that prints of power
Speaker 2: of the air. And if we're talking about the air,
Speaker 2: we're talking about the atmosphere. We're talking about the same
Speaker 2: ionosphere that you know, we were just talking about a
Speaker 2: few minutes ago, and.
Speaker 3: Then he's cast into the Abyss.
Speaker 2: The Abyss is regularly known as the ocean or beyond.
Speaker 2: There's Tartarus, which is beyond Hell, and then there's Hades,
Speaker 2: which is, you know, basically Hell. And so I think
Speaker 2: that there's I think we're we're talking about different levels
Speaker 2: of these dark forces, Like there's dark forces that weren't
Speaker 2: that were cast down, and they are wandering basically the
Speaker 2: earth as gas in the form of gas.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm you're all over the place, and are
Speaker 1: you over here? Let's do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just think about noble gases.
Speaker 1: For example, Xenon are gone, neon the on the periodic table.
Speaker 2: What do they do Whenever they glow? They glow orange, red, blue,
Speaker 2: purple white. These are all the same colors that orbs glow.
Speaker 2: And so what is the what is the plasma is
Speaker 2: made up of a noble gas as well? I can't
Speaker 2: remember that. I can't remember which one. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I keep hearing and not just from you, I've heard
Speaker 1: other people say the plasma is made from different types
Speaker 1: of components. Because you can make a plasma cannon basically
Speaker 1: in your garage, right if you have the technical know how,
Speaker 1: you can make it. But then it's like, that's electrical plasma,
Speaker 1: not necessarily gaseous plasma. There's different levels to it. And
Speaker 1: now plasma is the fourth state of matter. We have
Speaker 1: solid liquid gas and now plasma, which is more like
Speaker 1: a gel depending and it's it's there's a lot. There's
Speaker 1: a lot to break that down. I get it. Hell,
Speaker 1: even with a fire triangle, that's no longer a fire triangle,
Speaker 1: it's a fire quadrilateral or something like that, because now
Speaker 1: they have to account for plasma fires. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, when did plasma become flammable? And apparently in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, here we are, we got flammable plasma,
Speaker 1: and shit, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, well speaking of speak know plasma fire. I mean,
Speaker 2: did you see the movie or the show movie? I
Speaker 2: guess you could say K Pop Demon Hunters where the Yes,
Speaker 2: the plasma fire. That that's that's.
Speaker 3: What I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Here's the Demon Lord.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Demon Lord.
Speaker 1: That's a plasma fire. Yeah, that's a purple flame.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a purple flame.
Speaker 2: Damn. So I think that they're they're telling us this
Speaker 2: stuff without telling us they are disclosing things, but not
Speaker 2: in the way that we think we want to hear
Speaker 2: aliens and we want to hear extraterrestrials and green men
Speaker 2: and gray men and the tall whites and all this
Speaker 2: other stuff. But I actually think that they are shape
Speaker 2: shifters because when they come into this form into an
Speaker 2: orb form. After they go through that process and become
Speaker 2: an orb then they become highly magnetized and they need
Speaker 2: electric electromagnetic field to sustain them.
Speaker 3: So that means they can travel on lay.
Speaker 2: Lines, they can go through these locations where these like Stonehenge,
Speaker 2: where you have like Vorder seas and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: The the United States has, the USGS has magnetic aer
Speaker 2: aeromagnetic magnetic anomaly maps that you can look at.
Speaker 1: So it stands for what I'm just so clear. United
Speaker 1: Geological Survey Geologic got you, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so they have aero magnetic maps that you can
Speaker 2: look at that almost will always correlate with anomalist activity.
Speaker 3: So anytime you see something.
Speaker 2: Like I did. I just did an episode on Betty
Speaker 2: and Barney Hill because I wanted to kind of give
Speaker 2: an example of how I can quickly pinpoint that these
Speaker 2: things are happening near volcanoes and running water and streams
Speaker 2: and all this other stuff that it's this is where
Speaker 2: these are the entry points for these gases to come in.
Speaker 1: So we have running water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, flowing water, you just talked about it. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: creates a turbulent field. Flowing water.
Speaker 3: You know how you could take divining rods. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: call it water witching.
Speaker 1: Oh guy, I tell me I'm a dowsing rods and shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The reason why they call it water witching is
Speaker 2: because you can it gives off electromagnetic current or electric
Speaker 2: current because it's flowing, and you can find it because
Speaker 2: of the magnetic current that it's putting off. And so
Speaker 2: flowing water in general creates this geodynamic spin to it
Speaker 2: at all times, and that spin creates an energy vortices,
Speaker 2: and I just told you they can come in through
Speaker 2: these magnetic fields that's being generated by So the portal
Speaker 2: location is like stoneheads, for example. I believe that these stones,
Speaker 2: like bluestones, limestone, all this quartz is piez of electric.
Speaker 2: They are capacitors or they're like they kind of encircle energy.
Speaker 3: You have lay line energy. That's that's so I just
Speaker 3: mentioned a little bit earlier.
Speaker 2: So when the Sun interacts with the Earth, there's a
Speaker 2: giant magnet in this eye, in a giant magnet here.
Speaker 2: When they interact, it creates an electrical current. That electrical
Speaker 2: current unlocks these noble gases that is encased in magnetite.
Speaker 2: They seep out of volcanoes, they seep out of faults
Speaker 2: and fissures and all this other stuff, and then they
Speaker 2: flow along the Earth, which is what creates a lay line,
Speaker 2: and it usually flows to a portal location like Stonehands
Speaker 2: or ave Berry or you name it. All these places
Speaker 2: that we've talked about on your show before, and all
Speaker 2: these other shows that have always like go Backlely Teppi
Speaker 2: and all these all these places are places where the
Speaker 2: magnetic fields are strong because of the telluric current energy,
Speaker 2: the electrical currents that are coming from volcanoes. You can
Speaker 2: almost always find volcanoes nearby, or extinct volcanoes. And a
Speaker 2: good example of this is like Bermuda. The Bermuda is
Speaker 2: an extinct volcano.
Speaker 1: So now I have to ask you just We just
Speaker 1: had a guy come on the show here recently, Tim
Speaker 1: Foyle tails Brandon Loved to Death. He was talking about
Speaker 1: how the triangle that is associated with his neck of
Speaker 1: the woods. Right now, to my knowledge, there's no volcano
Speaker 1: around Michigan or anything like that. But now we're talking
Speaker 1: about waterways that feed into the Great Lakes. So I
Speaker 1: could understand this, especially with what you're talking about here. Now,
Speaker 1: what about the Hope Well site, right, that's in Ohio.
Speaker 1: This is the Hope Well Site. Is its earthen mountains
Speaker 1: that the Native Americans built, and it is using all
Speaker 1: kinds of sacred geometry with it. And it's understood now
Speaker 1: we know this through artifact records and all these things
Speaker 1: through archaeologists. We're talking about pretty much every tribe had
Speaker 1: some sort of representation here, right. They would come from
Speaker 1: as far west as New Mexico, as far north as
Speaker 1: I mean shit, where the Vikings made their first appearance
Speaker 1: with the Native Americans, to as far south as Florida.
Speaker 1: These Native tribes would come together at the Hopewell site
Speaker 1: to do some sort of a ritual. We don't know
Speaker 1: for what. We don't know what time of year, we
Speaker 1: don't know what the situation was, but we know that
Speaker 1: it was important enough for them to come together for
Speaker 1: this purpose. The Hopewell Site, to my knowledge, in Ohio.
Speaker 1: I don't know of any Yeah, the Ohio River, I
Speaker 1: get that, but that's not a major like tributary to
Speaker 1: this site. To my knowledge, theres no volcanoes there or
Speaker 1: anything like this. But it does tie into the lay lines.
Speaker 1: So what is your take on this?
Speaker 2: Well, lay lines is probably formed because of the electromagnetic
Speaker 2: energy that's being generated in these tectonic plate pressures.
Speaker 3: M like, I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Give anything away, but I'm going to be having this
Speaker 2: guy on my show who dad was. My dad was
Speaker 2: a deputy sheriff grown up, and there was there was
Speaker 2: a sheriff of a county nearby who was known to
Speaker 2: be like a badass, Like he was like nobody like,
Speaker 2: don't go in that don't do nothing bad in that town,
Speaker 2: right or that county. And turns out that guy, that
Speaker 2: guy heard me on the show one time and he said, dude,
Speaker 2: he reached out to me. We've called each other and
Speaker 2: talked to each other on the phone ever since. He's like,
Speaker 2: you may have helped me figure out something from cold cases.
Speaker 2: And he said, I always had this feeling that it
Speaker 2: was like a cult or something supernatural that's happening, and
Speaker 2: I don't want to get to much way because he's
Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna come on my show and talk about it.
Speaker 2: But there's this place called the Line of Death or
Speaker 2: this area that he calls the line of death.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not.
Speaker 2: Well. A lot of people have gone missing, a lot
Speaker 2: of a lot of weird sacrificial you know, stone circles
Speaker 2: and stuff being found in these areas.
Speaker 1: In South Carolina.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sh in near Charleston, and he calls it
Speaker 2: the line of death. He said when I was the
Speaker 2: no but we couldn't figure out why these things were happening.
Speaker 2: And then the buddy of his told him about this,
Speaker 2: like he said, man, that lines up with this thing
Speaker 2: and that thing and that thing. And they ended up
Speaker 2: calling it the line of death because they would find bodies,
Speaker 2: they would have missing people in these areas. And I
Speaker 2: think this correlates to the stuff that David Paulyde's or
Speaker 2: Polites or however you say his name from Missing four
Speaker 2: and one is talking about.
Speaker 1: I know the name, I have no idea how to
Speaker 1: pronounce it. I'm with you, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But he talks about he he kind of tipped me off.
Speaker 2: I was watching four and one, the Hunted and all
Speaker 2: this stuff. And he kind of tipped me off to like,
Speaker 2: maybe there's some environmental factors that are going on with
Speaker 2: some of these weird cases. Because David was a cop
Speaker 2: as well, he used to be a sheriff, and he
Speaker 2: was having all these weird missing cases in the National
Speaker 2: Forest and all this other stuff. So long story short,
Speaker 2: I told him, I gave him a USGS map of
Speaker 2: the Aaron magnetic anomalies in South Carolina. Okay, And dude,
Speaker 2: it lines up exactly with a fault line, that line
Speaker 2: of death. And again we're gonna he's gonna come on
Speaker 2: and too, we're gonna talk about it a little bit
Speaker 2: in depth. But what I think is happening is all
Speaker 2: these fault lines and fissures and stuff like that, even
Speaker 2: deep beneath the earth that were extinct volcanoes that happened
Speaker 2: millions of years ago whatever. Like, for example, there's a
Speaker 2: super volcano that's dormant at Yellowstone right Like nobody knows
Speaker 2: that that's a volcano. That's a volcano. It's a huge volcano.
Speaker 1: Oh and if that thing blows, pretty much all of
Speaker 1: North America's fucked, like for surectly.
Speaker 2: But the point is is that it's a volcano that's extinct,
Speaker 2: the same with Usually these things are formed from magma.
Speaker 2: That is cool. This is how they explain try to
Speaker 2: explain anyways, the Devil's Tower, which I actually think is
Speaker 2: a really big tree stump, but I've been there, and
Speaker 2: this is how they try to explain away the Devil's Tower,
Speaker 2: that it's just magma that cooled and pushed up out
Speaker 2: of the earth. Use the forces.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we can get the last time, I'm can.
Speaker 1: You get to the top of it? Is that a
Speaker 1: thing they.
Speaker 2: Allow to do it all the time? No?
Speaker 1: Ship, Yeah, damn, there's not like a stairway though, you
Speaker 1: have to like rock climate.
Speaker 2: No, you have to like, yeah, climb the side of it. No,
Speaker 2: I think that there's a I didn't go away to
Speaker 2: the top because honestly, I was getting these like I
Speaker 2: was being I was I felt uneasy, I was like
Speaker 2: getting kind of like dizzy and nauseous and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's from energies there or whatever.
Speaker 3: But my point is.
Speaker 2: Is like, let's just talk about the super volcano and
Speaker 2: Yellowstone for example, that's a huge place and so if
Speaker 2: you have to lyric energy, which is electrical currents flowing
Speaker 2: out of it. That area. It's hitting all these regions
Speaker 2: Ore agaon why you know, Washington, it's hitting parts of
Speaker 2: California and the what is that national forces out there?
Speaker 1: Redwood?
Speaker 2: I forgot the name of it, man, but no, it's
Speaker 2: not Redwood. But anyways, it's all you gotta do, Yeah,
Speaker 2: all you gotta do is look on the map where
Speaker 2: if there's a national force, is always going to be
Speaker 2: a highly magnetic magnetic, magnetically anomalous area. And so if
Speaker 2: you take the hope well that you were talking about
Speaker 2: the Hopewell site in Ohio, and you overlay an image
Speaker 2: of that onto the USGS Aeromagnetic map of Ohio, it
Speaker 2: will almost guarant I will almost guarantee you that it
Speaker 2: will be a highly magnetic, anomalously magnetic care It's a
Speaker 2: hardware to say anonymously magnetic area of Ohio.
Speaker 1: Good good cult members out there listening. That's your homework assignment.
Speaker 1: Overlay these maps and then send us something in the
Speaker 1: d MS, and I would love to see what comes up.
Speaker 2: For sure. Oh you can. You can overlay it on
Speaker 2: any you name the event and you can in the
Speaker 2: area and you can overlay.
Speaker 3: It it's almost always.
Speaker 2: Going to coincide with national forests nearby, or state parks
Speaker 2: or national parks, like these protected wildlife areas, these refuges.
Speaker 2: And this is why I was saying that, this is
Speaker 2: why it's important to rope in the Department of Interior
Speaker 2: in these discussions of UAPs and UFOs and all this stuff,
Speaker 2: because they're always happening in these national parks and national
Speaker 2: forests and volcano areas and fault lines and all this
Speaker 2: other stuff. And this is also why it's important to
Speaker 2: talk about the Department to the Department of Energy, because
Speaker 2: once that energy is released from the Earth, then it's anomalous.
Speaker 2: It's out there in the ether, just floating around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so again, man.
Speaker 2: You know, all of it is just disclosure in a
Speaker 2: way that I think it's it is soft disclosure. They're
Speaker 2: saying things, they're saying non human intelligence, but nobody's picking
Speaker 2: up on the words they're not because they're not saying
Speaker 2: they're not like, hey, yeah, they're definitely aliens, they're green, gray, whatever,
Speaker 2: because they don't know. Because they're shape shifters, they can
Speaker 2: turn into anything, and how they turn into anything is
Speaker 2: when they become an orb they're magnetized and they pull
Speaker 2: from the putrefied ions of things that are dead just
Speaker 2: laying around, and so they're pulling from materials that this
Speaker 2: is what they smell terrible, and that's what they look
Speaker 2: like bigfoot and half deer and half fox and all
Speaker 2: this other stuff. This is why all these cryptids have
Speaker 2: different looks because there's just a bunch of putrefied plasma
Speaker 2: laying around, putrefied ions and this thing. These things are
Speaker 2: just quickly pulling something together to turn to morph into something.
Speaker 1: So the orbs themselves that you're talking about, if they
Speaker 1: are around an area of like a cemetery, they would
Speaker 1: form into the shape of possibly a human. If they're
Speaker 1: deep in the woods somewhere, they would form into the
Speaker 1: shape of a half deer, half wolf. Wind to go
Speaker 1: looking things or or YETI in Alaska, so you're you
Speaker 1: are believed somewhere else. All of these cryptid sightings are
Speaker 1: basically the orbs that are around something to where it
Speaker 1: kind of takes on the for lack of better words,
Speaker 1: the memory of that thing and then forms into that shape.
Speaker 2: Yep. Because when we die, our energy just gets put
Speaker 2: back into the atmosphere, like what happens. If my body
Speaker 2: was left in the woods, then where would my Where
Speaker 2: would all the ions and particles that make me up,
Speaker 2: the electrons and autos of where would it go? It
Speaker 2: doesn't just disappear. It stays. It has a signature, It
Speaker 2: stays around, It stays in the area. Maybe it disperses
Speaker 2: out over time, whatever the case, but it's going to
Speaker 2: stay in that area. And so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I mean again, I know it's kind.
Speaker 2: Of a stretch, but I've never heard anybody talk about
Speaker 2: those kind of things because they always these orbs always
Speaker 2: morph into Bigfoot right in front of people's eyes.
Speaker 3: They always morph into aliens.
Speaker 2: Right. Chris Bledsoe has talked about this a lot, how
Speaker 2: all these things like basically morphed into an alien or
Speaker 2: something right in front of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember hearing him talk about how one of
Speaker 1: these orbs opened up and a woman stepped forward and
Speaker 1: said that she was half or, which is an Egyptian goddess.
Speaker 1: But then whenever you look at it, that's also a demon.
Speaker 1: And when you look at which of the the plagues
Speaker 1: were associated with half the or it's like, ah, oh, Chris, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of you, bro. But perhaps you should
Speaker 1: stop talking of that thing like yo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well think about this. If we're talking about non
Speaker 2: human intelligent complex plasma that remember, at the center of
Speaker 2: all these complex plasma are these nodes of.
Speaker 3: Energy that are silicon.
Speaker 2: That silicon has a I keep saying it different ways,
Speaker 2: silicon and silicon, Yes to both, Yeah, it has it.
Speaker 2: It stores information. So you got to think about something
Speaker 2: that's seen the Earth for millions of years or whatever,
Speaker 2: billions of years, right, they are extremely intelligent. This is
Speaker 2: why I think our government's working with them is because
Speaker 2: because I think that they're getting technology and medicines and
Speaker 2: all this other stuff in exchange for humans to make
Speaker 2: hybrid beings that can inhabit this earth. And so I
Speaker 2: actually think that come twenty nineteen, for example, this is
Speaker 2: when this is solar minimum. This is when these plasmoids
Speaker 2: are these complex plasmas can stick around longer, and so
Speaker 2: I start, I think they start planning for the solar maximums,
Speaker 2: and I think that they they kind of start, you know, hybridization.
Speaker 2: They start kidnapping people around these low solar minimum times
Speaker 2: and in preparation for solar maximum, because solar maximum is chaotic,
Speaker 2: they get dispersed back into the ionosphere all this other stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, now let's go there for a second. You're talking
Speaker 1: about they kidnap these people, you mean the demonic entities.
Speaker 3: It's an energy.
Speaker 2: And so if you think of our brains as like
Speaker 2: these hard drive where you know, I just was telling
Speaker 2: you before I show I lost all my stuff on
Speaker 2: my hard drive, Well, have you ever fragmented or seen
Speaker 2: a fragmented hard drive where it's got a bunch of
Speaker 2: spaces in between it. I think that that's how our
Speaker 2: brains are as well. That if you if you were
Speaker 2: to take a magnet and put it near a I
Speaker 2: think that's how they clean clean a lot of hard drives,
Speaker 2: as they put a giant magnet near it and then
Speaker 2: they rub it around and it basically fries it.
Speaker 1: This is how when you say you destroy, yeah, destroyed basically.
Speaker 2: And so I think that they had this this magnetic
Speaker 2: ability to hypnotize us in a way and fragment our
Speaker 2: brains and physically. I don't know if they control us
Speaker 2: or how it works if they actually cap capture us
Speaker 2: and take us somewhere, I don't know what. I don't
Speaker 2: know how all that works, but I think that essentially
Speaker 2: they're trying to make hybrid This is why they have
Speaker 2: the subterranean bases. This is why they have bases underneath
Speaker 2: the earth, I mean underneath the oceans, these usos, like
Speaker 2: you mentioned, because God's light disperses them. The sun, the
Speaker 2: solar winds from the Sun disperses them, and so this
Speaker 2: is why they're in an underground basis. And again I
Speaker 2: think that our government's working with them, and I think
Speaker 2: that there there was a what's his name, Dwight Eisenhower
Speaker 2: had an agreement with them to basically allow them to
Speaker 2: take people and make hybrids with them, to abduct them,
Speaker 2: and then there was a war that happened because the
Speaker 2: Aliens didn't stop abducting people, the non human intelligence didn't
Speaker 2: stop abducting people, so they gave us information and technology
Speaker 2: and all this stuff. Nineteen forty seven was another solar maximum.
Speaker 2: This is when Roswell happened. And this is when all
Speaker 2: the CIA and FBI and all that was formed three
Speaker 2: weeks after Roswell happened.
Speaker 1: So I guess my next question is, Okay, if this
Speaker 1: is true, why do they need human what do they
Speaker 1: gain from this? Right? So, I've heard and depends on
Speaker 1: who you talk to.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: There are some that say that, like the cattle mutilations,
Speaker 1: they are mutilating these cattle and rubbing the juices on
Speaker 1: their skin because that's how they eat now. But that
Speaker 1: would signify that these are physical entities. There are some
Speaker 1: they're saying that they're using the humans for some sort
Speaker 1: of experimentation, right, because they are on the other side
Speaker 1: of the pendulum swing on their version of evolution and
Speaker 1: they need some sort of a genetic base to work
Speaker 1: off of to try to repopulate or something like this.
Speaker 1: But what you're saying is that these are not physical
Speaker 1: entities at all. If anything, they can manifest themselves or
Speaker 1: metamorphosize themselves. I know I'm probably butchering the words fuck
Speaker 1: off into some sort of a shape shifter human or
Speaker 1: animal looking thing. But what do they gain from kidnapping
Speaker 1: people or from abducting people, or the probes or the
Speaker 1: surgeries or whatever else. What are they grabbing from that?
Speaker 2: Well, somehow they're impregnating human women. This is a phenomenon
Speaker 2: that's really happening to people, including a cousin of mine
Speaker 2: who I had on my show, who is RH negative.
Speaker 2: She didn't even know. I mean I asked her about
Speaker 2: this off air and I was like, hey, I had
Speaker 2: to pause recording. I was like, can I ask you something?
Speaker 3: And she's like yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, she had an event where she was
Speaker 2: training and she was in the army. She was training
Speaker 2: and she was in the woods and they saw like
Speaker 2: a UFO over their vehicle and then they were going
Speaker 2: for like four hours and people were like, where'd you go?
Speaker 3: And they were like, we didn't go for We don't
Speaker 3: know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I asked her. I paused it there. I said did
Speaker 2: you have a miscarriage right after that? And she goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: how'd you know? I was like, that's pretty common for
Speaker 2: people who have had experiences where they've seen like a
Speaker 2: UFO and then they had like some some kind of
Speaker 2: a miscarriage or something. Right after that. She said, yeah,
Speaker 2: So what happens is they get impregnated in the cow,
Speaker 2: the bovine. They it's not just cows, it's like oxes
Speaker 2: is oxen as well. Yeah, and so that I think
Speaker 2: they use their reproductive organs to.
Speaker 3: Grow the baby in the womb.
Speaker 2: Because a lot of these people are in this, not
Speaker 2: my cousin. She didn't say that this happened to her.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people are taking taken abductive again
Speaker 2: and taken to this place where they meet their kid
Speaker 2: at like fifteen years old, their hybrid, and their hybrid
Speaker 2: always has these like stringy hair and giant blue eyes
Speaker 2: and all this other stuff. And so that's a real
Speaker 2: phenomena that happens. That's and there was like a CIA
Speaker 2: really a document release that were that pretty much confirmed
Speaker 2: that a lot of people who women specifically who have
Speaker 2: been abducted. Even even the the Betty and Barney Hill thing,
Speaker 2: Betty Hill, her dress was torn and all this other stuff.
Speaker 2: Barney actually had his genitals mess with through hypnotic regression,
Speaker 2: which is like you know, they got hypnotized and they
Speaker 2: could retel or recant some of the events that happen.
Speaker 2: They described basically them probing their genitals and all this
Speaker 2: other stuff, putting needles in their stomach, taking looking like
Speaker 2: they're pregnant, making somebody pregnant or taking something out or
Speaker 2: whatever the case is.
Speaker 3: So this is actually a common thing.
Speaker 2: For people who had been abducted, which again, man, it's
Speaker 2: like so weird because I'm not even in like I'm
Speaker 2: not even like I'm not like, you know, UFO person
Speaker 2: or anything like that. I've never been any of these
Speaker 2: kinds of things. But one thing I was really into.
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, there's a lot of weird things
Speaker 2: happening on the thirty third Parallel, Like I wonder why
Speaker 2: those things are happening. And this is how I started
Speaker 2: doing these this podcast was because I went on Tony
Speaker 2: Merkel's show to talk about third Parallel. But then it
Speaker 2: led me to like, well, what is this? And then
Speaker 2: what is this? And then so now I'm like looking
Speaker 2: at all this shit, I'm like, holy crap, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff going on here that we don't know about,
Speaker 2: that the public doesn't know about that. I guess people
Speaker 2: who do live in rural areas or national forest areas
Speaker 2: or near volcanoes or whatever they do know they see these.
Speaker 3: Things all the time.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I saw a video that was right
Speaker 2: above my mom and dad's house and I called my
Speaker 2: dad's straight before he died, and I was like, hey, man,
Speaker 2: you ever see because my dad's always drinking beer at
Speaker 2: the back of a tailgate looking up at the stars
Speaker 2: every night before. He needs to do that all the time.
Speaker 2: And I said, you ever see anything like that over
Speaker 2: yeall's house. Oh yeah, se shit like that all the time, man,
Speaker 2: And he was just going on about, oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: lights this, and oh the person that they had a
Speaker 2: real he was the one recording those videos, and yeah,
Speaker 2: that was right over here. And matter of fact, my
Speaker 2: cousin I was just talking about, her dad lives right
Speaker 2: next door and her dad had a lot of demonic
Speaker 2: experiences as well next door. So and now my whole
Speaker 2: family has had experiences right behind my mom and where
Speaker 2: my mom lives now, which used to be my grandma's
Speaker 2: house orbs. My mom has seen a UFO, have one
Speaker 2: on video, matter of fact, where I was talking to
Speaker 2: her on FaceTime and she was showing me the UFO
Speaker 2: hovering over her backyard. So, I mean, it's it's like
Speaker 2: it's like a To me, it was like a small light.
Speaker 2: But she was like, oh I see it. It's like
Speaker 2: She's like, it looks like it maybe it could be
Speaker 2: a radio tower. I'm like, but you lived there sixty years.
Speaker 2: There's a radio tower there that just sprung up overs
Speaker 2: right right. And so my point is is like these
Speaker 2: things are happening. And by the way, my mom's house
Speaker 2: where I grew up is on a fault line. It's
Speaker 2: on a heavily magnetic anomaly area. What I was just
Speaker 2: talking about with the USGS and you can actually put
Speaker 2: a pin in all these locations and you can probably
Speaker 2: find stories about all these anomaloist things. But I do
Speaker 2: want to mention too, man, that I didn't get to
Speaker 2: talk about when when I was talking about the Dan
Speaker 2: Fair thing was the propaganda aspect of it. A lot
Speaker 2: of people don't know that we have a propaganda wing
Speaker 2: of the government. But people don't People don't know that.
Speaker 3: That's a real thing.
Speaker 2: And through the and that's through the smith Montact, and
Speaker 2: it's also called the US Information and a Exchange Educational
Speaker 2: Exchange Act of nineteen forty eight. And what this was
Speaker 2: designed to do again, this was nineteen forty eight, nineteen
Speaker 2: forty seven. We had all this roswell stuff, national security
Speaker 2: stuff happening and spinning up. Nineteen forty eight, we create
Speaker 2: a propaganda wing of the government. The propaganda wing smith
Speaker 2: Mont was just to propaganda as citizens overseas, like foreign countries. Hey,
Speaker 2: we're apple pie, where white pick offences American dream. This
Speaker 2: is where you get the idea for American dream from
Speaker 2: is from propaganda, because they were propagandais in countries overseas,
Speaker 2: and so they were trying to win an information war overseas. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm going to read something.
Speaker 1: Go for it, I mean, and it worked right in
Speaker 1: China in the Chinese language, what they call America, I'd
Speaker 1: be lying if I try to pronounce it, but essentially,
Speaker 1: just directly translated, America is the beautiful land. And that's
Speaker 1: a part of the propaganda. That's a part of the
Speaker 1: Like you said, it's it's not just the white pick
Speaker 1: offense and all these things, but it's the idea, the
Speaker 1: American dream. It's it's what we sold to the world
Speaker 1: of why people want to be us. Then cut to
Speaker 1: a few decades later. We made certain things reality. Certain
Speaker 1: things were obviously fake. I understand this, but it was
Speaker 1: still a part of the of the ploy one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Well, so since nineteen forty eight, again we have a
Speaker 2: wing of this WREN by the State Department, and it
Speaker 2: was it was essentially has changed names over time because
Speaker 2: of for you and all this other stuff. Now it's
Speaker 2: called the US Agency for Global Media, but it's run
Speaker 2: the head of it is Marco Rubio he's the head
Speaker 2: of the propaganda wing of the government, and he's also
Speaker 2: in Dan Farrow's film The Age of Disclosure.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, but I want to read this.
Speaker 2: It said. It says under Section one thousand and five
Speaker 2: of the Smith Month of nineteen forty eight, the Smith
Speaker 2: Month Act of nineteen forty eight, it says, in carrying
Speaker 2: out the provisions of this Act, it shall be the
Speaker 2: duty of the Secretary of State to utilize to the
Speaker 2: maximum extent practicable, the services and facilities of private agencies.
Speaker 2: We're talking about, you know, movie theaters and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: including existing American press, publishing, radio motion picture and other
Speaker 2: agencies through contractual arrangements or otherwise. It is the intent
Speaker 2: of Congress that the Secretary, mean in, the Secretary of
Speaker 2: State shall encourage participation in carrying out the purposes of
Speaker 2: this Act by the maximum number of different private agencies.
Speaker 2: So it gives the Secretary, the Congress gives the Secretary
Speaker 2: of State the ability to contract people to make propaganda.
Speaker 2: And can you imagine if you're a guy like Dan
Speaker 2: Fair or me or you And they said, because the
Speaker 2: American press, by the way, the publishing radio motion pictures
Speaker 2: and all this was nineteen forty eight that they did this. Well,
Speaker 2: Obama updated it in twenty twelve, so that that's the
Speaker 2: Smith Montt Modernization Act to include propagandizing American citizens. Okay,
Speaker 2: so basically, the Secretary of State can come to you
Speaker 2: and say, Jacob, we really want you to put out
Speaker 2: some propaganda for us. Are you going to say no
Speaker 2: to that? In your heart, I know you would be like,
Speaker 2: fuck no, I wouldn't say I was just my ass.
Speaker 2: But think about this. The government comes to you, they
Speaker 2: have the ability to fuck your life up. They have
Speaker 2: the ability to audit the hell out of you. They
Speaker 2: have the ability to not allow you to do certain
Speaker 2: things and not I'll put you on a travel no
Speaker 2: travel list, and all this other stuff. So there's an
Speaker 2: implied pressure, a subtle pressure, to cooperate with the government.
Speaker 2: And this is what I think is actually happening with
Speaker 2: Dan Farrah. I think he was probably like, well, I
Speaker 2: aint gonna no choice. Now. On the flip side of that,
Speaker 2: if you do cooperate, now you got access to all
Speaker 2: these well known people. You're getting invited to all these parties.
Speaker 2: You and I know we've been to some of these,
Speaker 2: like events in DC where they're given they had, they're
Speaker 2: given the Patriot Award to somebody every night of the
Speaker 2: week where it's wine and all this other stuff.
Speaker 3: So Dan Ferrer is going to be invited to all that.
Speaker 2: Now, think about how much access he had while he
Speaker 2: was promoting this movie. He had basically every including Joe Rogan,
Speaker 2: He had every platform he could won't and he was
Speaker 2: promoting this movie on every platform. There's probably fifty different
Speaker 2: disclosure movies on Amazon right now. What makes his special?
Speaker 2: What makes his special? Well nothing, It's just another propaganda
Speaker 2: ploy to to kind of distract people, like I said,
Speaker 2: but also maybe soft disclosure like I said too, which
Speaker 2: is which is telling us about non human intelligence. Because
Speaker 2: even if you don't want to watch the movie The
Speaker 2: Age of Disclosure, you can watch the trailer, and in
Speaker 2: the trailer alone, you're gonna hear the congressman repeat the
Speaker 2: line non human intelligence or something along those lines, by
Speaker 2: non human biologics or something like that. And so that's
Speaker 2: all that is is propaganda. So the Secretary of State
Speaker 2: has that ability.
Speaker 3: He was in the film, Marco Rubio was in the film.
Speaker 1: Was he in the film before he was listed as
Speaker 1: Secretary of State? Like when did the shooting happen of this.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the film yet. I've had so many
Speaker 1: people tell me I have to go check it out,
Speaker 1: and I will. I will. But was this while he
Speaker 1: was seated as the Secretary of State or was this beforehand?
Speaker 2: I think while he's seated, but I think he was.
Speaker 2: Remember he was like a member of the Intel Services
Speaker 2: Committee or something along those lines before, right, so he
Speaker 2: kind of was already one of the he would have
Speaker 2: been one of these other congressmen that would have been
Speaker 2: on the video anyways. So I think they started filming
Speaker 2: it in twenty twenty four and finished it in twenty
Speaker 2: five while he was the Secretary of State. But again,
Speaker 2: these appointments aren't by accident. There's a reason why Marco
Speaker 2: Rubio was appointed and also passed, by the way by
Speaker 2: all the other congressmen is because he had access to
Speaker 2: certain knowledge and all this other stuff.
Speaker 3: So yeah, just think about this man.
Speaker 2: The US Agency for Global Media, the propaganda wing of
Speaker 2: the government. Now, they can't make propaganda specifically for US.
Speaker 2: What they can do is make propaganda for people overseas.
Speaker 2: And what the Smith Modernization Act did was it gave
Speaker 2: these organizations the US Agency for Global Media permission to
Speaker 2: give propaganda to news agencies like the New York Times
Speaker 2: and all this other stuff. So this is why since
Speaker 2: twenty twelve we started seeing more and more stories. So
Speaker 2: they create propaganda for overseas. The New York Times calls them,
Speaker 2: says hey, I want some stories, and then they go,
Speaker 2: we got the story for you, and then they give
Speaker 2: them the propaganda. And that's how it gets filtered into
Speaker 2: because if you think about it, since since twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: we've had nothing but propaganda in our news, and I
Speaker 2: mean it's gotten worse and worse and worse and worse
Speaker 2: to wherever.
Speaker 3: We're at now.
Speaker 2: But again, I think that the whole point of it
Speaker 2: is to distract us from the fact that they are
Speaker 2: working with these non human intelligences, probably getting information from
Speaker 2: them and science and medicine and technologies and all this
Speaker 2: stuff in exchange for humans for hybridization. And I think
Speaker 2: that's what the real that's what the real rub of
Speaker 2: it is. And also the grid going down, that's probably
Speaker 2: another part of it. That's like, you know, preventing them
Speaker 2: from talking about disclosure. But yeah, in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: when all those plasmoids we're in the sky. That would
Speaker 2: have been the perfect opportunity to come out and say, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is what's going on. It's science, it's something scientific.
Speaker 2: We'll try to playing it the best week way we
Speaker 2: can or whatever, instead of having retards like me on here,
Speaker 2: you know, talking on these different shows about this shit
Speaker 2: that I don't know nothing about, or I mean I
Speaker 2: had to like literally relearn what's a proton and what's
Speaker 2: a neutron and what's a nyon and all this other
Speaker 2: stuff because I'm really I mean it's like a I
Speaker 2: have a fifth grade understanding of that stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like most adults don't even have that, dude.
Speaker 1: We have, like we know that an atom has protons, neutrons,
Speaker 1: and electrons, and it I feel like most adults don't
Speaker 1: even realize which of those three things I just listen
Speaker 1: is actually floating on the outside rim of an atom.
Speaker 1: And if you do know that electrons are floating out there,
Speaker 1: then like, kudos to you. But my point is most people,
Speaker 1: if you I put it like this, dude, I went
Speaker 1: back to school after my time in the Marine Corps. Okay,
Speaker 1: I get I get to college and I was taking
Speaker 1: a math, a basic math one on one class, and
Speaker 1: they started with one plus one and they ended with
Speaker 1: very basic algebra.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: All right, addition, we started like literally with one plus
Speaker 1: one one cool cool cool. Subtraction, no problems, multiplication, no problems? Division,
Speaker 1: big dog? When's the last time you actually worked out
Speaker 1: a long division problem on paper? And like, legitimately, I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 1: as soon as you say, all right, now we're moving
Speaker 1: in the division, Okay, no problems. I know this. We
Speaker 1: covered all these other things whatever, And then whenever actually
Speaker 1: put pen to paper and was trying to work it out,
Speaker 1: I was like, shit, where does the one go? What
Speaker 1: happens here? If you don't use it, you'll lose it?
Speaker 1: Is my point. Now, once he showed us one time
Speaker 1: on the board, it all came flooding back. I'm good
Speaker 1: to go. We rocked through. But my point is, so
Speaker 1: many people have learned things that they don't really remember, right,
Speaker 1: That's the way it is. So when you're talking about
Speaker 1: how atomic theory and these types of things, a lot
Speaker 1: of people have learned these things. How many of adults
Speaker 1: in today's day and age actually remember them and can
Speaker 1: recall them and speak intelligently on them. I feel like
Speaker 1: that's way less than what we want to give credit
Speaker 1: to for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of credit, dude, I was like, I went
Speaker 2: and bought a new truck over the holidays because I
Speaker 2: had I had my truck for twenty years.
Speaker 1: Right, good shit that you hadn't last that long. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a Toyota, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: That was a shabby man, No shit? Yeah, cool. But
Speaker 2: I put a lot of money into it. I just
Speaker 2: was sinking the money into it stupidly. I ended up
Speaker 2: going to get a new one. Long story short, I
Speaker 2: was talking to one of the salesmen there and he said,
Speaker 2: like I had I had a pretty I got a
Speaker 2: pretty high credit score because I freak out about paying
Speaker 2: my bills due that I got to make sure they're paid,
Speaker 2: and I had a pretty high credit score. And I
Speaker 2: was asking him like, you know, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I bet you guys get a lot of you know,
Speaker 2: seven hundred credit scores and he's like, our average is
Speaker 2: five hundred credit Yeah. I was like that's fucking crazy, dude, Like,
Speaker 2: how's that even possible?
Speaker 3: How are people surviving?
Speaker 1: Because credit is, dude, credit scores themselves are not based
Speaker 1: off of you. They're based off of your demographic. I
Speaker 1: just watched the thing about this. So for anybody that
Speaker 1: doesn't know, whenever John Smith from Georgia goes in and
Speaker 1: gets his credit right, they're not. Actually, yeah, there's some
Speaker 1: you know, there's three different agencies that are pulling this,
Speaker 1: but basically it's from two dudes from California and neither
Speaker 1: of them Jewish. I'm right, dad, Oddly enough, I know
Speaker 1: that shocked me when I found this out. But your
Speaker 1: your FAIKA credit score and all these things. This has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with anything about you and how much
Speaker 1: you pay your bills and are they on time or whatever.
Speaker 1: They're basically saying, Okay, white guy from the it this area,
Speaker 1: with this type of medium household income, how likely is
Speaker 1: he to pay his bills? It has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with you. Now, granted, there's a couple of other levels
Speaker 1: to that and some of that. Yeah, if you personally
Speaker 1: don't pay your credit card bill for like six months,
Speaker 1: yeah your credit score is gonna reflect. But for the
Speaker 1: most part, your credit score has nothing to do with you,
Speaker 1: and it's all a part of the fucking scam. So
Speaker 1: whenever you're saying that most people are in the five hundreds,
Speaker 1: it's like bro that doesn't even have to do with
Speaker 1: most people. That's just like an all encompassing demographic poll.
Speaker 1: It's like they pulled a Census Bureau and said, all right,
Speaker 1: this area is going to be h five twenty three.
Speaker 1: We're gonna run with that, and they can go up
Speaker 1: or down from that. But that's the media, and it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: that's bullshit. But that is how banks do it now,
Speaker 1: because now banks, it used to be to get a
Speaker 1: loan from a bank, you had to go talk to
Speaker 1: a person, you had to dress nice, you had to
Speaker 1: go and approach them, explain what this loan's gonna be
Speaker 1: used for, this, this, and this. All they did was
Speaker 1: streamline it and third party it to where now they're
Speaker 1: plugging it into a computer algorithm rather than a actual
Speaker 1: bank a loan officer. That's gonna improve you. That's all
Speaker 1: the credit score was ever about. But yeah, anyway, I
Speaker 1: might even do an episode about that here soon. I
Speaker 1: was fucking fund when I found that out.
Speaker 2: I did an episode called Useless Usury, which didn't do well,
Speaker 2: but I was trying to get information out to people.
Speaker 2: I wasn't necessarily talking about the usery part. It was
Speaker 2: more or less like the ways that we're being scammed
Speaker 2: in terms of financially, like at gas stations and everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and how impactful.
Speaker 2: It is to everybody. I mean, especially because I mean
Speaker 2: and hit with like little minor transactions all the time,
Speaker 2: and it's killing it's killing you.
Speaker 3: You don't even realize, like death by a thousand cuts.
Speaker 2: Yep. But I think that I think there's a lot
Speaker 2: of people. The point of saying that a while ago
Speaker 2: is that there's a lot of people who are very
Speaker 2: uneducated or under educated about it. And that's I think
Speaker 2: that's intentional. That's how they want us to be, is
Speaker 2: uneducated on a lot of these different things. They didn't
Speaker 2: teach me about the forts state of plasma in school.
Speaker 2: They didn't teach me about how to do my texas,
Speaker 2: they didn't teach me about anything that matters.
Speaker 1: With that being said, cult members don't use Klarna, or
Speaker 1: if you're gonna use it, make sure you can pay
Speaker 1: that bitch back in a month, because you're gonna go
Speaker 1: to get a loan for something important. They're gonna say, huh,
Speaker 1: we see you pulled sixty four new lines of credit
Speaker 1: here in the last ninety days. Let's talk about that
Speaker 1: and if you're somebody who's using Klarna to buy Chipotle,
Speaker 1: then we have more issues that we need to discuss. Okay,
Speaker 1: like maybe you shouldn't be buying Chipotle. But my point
Speaker 1: is these these you know, instant credit type of things
Speaker 1: that you're seeing for like small little loans, this is
Speaker 1: fucking your credit score to high heavens and you may
Speaker 1: not even realize it until you try to get approved
Speaker 1: for a house or a car something actually important. I'm
Speaker 1: not telling you what to do with your life. I'm
Speaker 1: not your dad. What I am saying is that if
Speaker 1: you're using Klara or one of these other sites, make
Speaker 1: sure that it's something that you are guaranteed going to
Speaker 1: be paying back within the next thirty days. Otherwise you
Speaker 1: just don't even download the fucking app. But anyway, sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 2: No, it's the same with payday loans. Don't get a
Speaker 2: pay yes, man, please don't. They'll kill you.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do it. Pay back in like a week.
Speaker 1: And like you know, I under I understand. Shit happens.
Speaker 1: Life throws curve balls at all of us, and God
Speaker 1: do what we gotta do to make our our ends meet.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Not judging anybody, but if you're gonna take that payday
Speaker 1: loan pay, or if you're gonna pawn something even you
Speaker 1: better be willing to pay that bitch back within the
Speaker 1: next few weeks, not six weeks, like three weeks, like
Speaker 1: under thirty days. This is Oh my god. If I
Speaker 1: can impart any wisdom on any of you cult members, please,
Speaker 1: oh my god, please do this.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, man, It's just it's just the under educated.
Speaker 2: I just don't. I mean, maybe that's why they don't
Speaker 2: want to talk about a lot of this stuff is
Speaker 2: because you know, how would we react if everybody if
Speaker 2: everybody knew, for example, that there was demons and angels
Speaker 2: and all this other stuff. How how chaotic would the
Speaker 2: world be? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Shit, I'll tell you now to systems. You remember September
Speaker 1: apparently we were supposed to have a rapture' That's how
Speaker 1: the world would react. You had you had women giving
Speaker 1: their children over to foster care because they knew that
Speaker 1: they were going up in the rapture. Their kids wouldn't
Speaker 1: because they don't understand how that works. But like whatever,
Speaker 1: And now you have multiple people, one in particular that
Speaker 1: I'm still tracking, who is fighting with the State to
Speaker 1: get her children back from foster care because she put
Speaker 1: them in so because she was about to get raption
Speaker 1: in the States like no, fuck you, like we're not
Speaker 1: we're not giving your children back. You're obviously a psychopath,
Speaker 1: and like she's fighting and trying to get help. The
Speaker 1: social media is and it's like oh no, oh no, Stephanie,
Speaker 1: you you're gonna these children are better off in the
Speaker 1: system rather than in your care because of obviously your
Speaker 1: mental capacity is not there. But like to your point,
Speaker 1: if people and we're not talking about the person, the
Speaker 1: person is very smart. The individual you're able to have
Speaker 1: a conversation with, and even if y'all disagree on some things,
Speaker 1: you're typically able to come to some sort of an understanding,
Speaker 1: some sort of a common ground. Right. The mob, the masses,
Speaker 1: the crowd, if you will, they are panicky, they are scared,
Speaker 1: they will they will go with whatever seems like the
Speaker 1: best action at that moment.
Speaker 2: So we saw it with toilet paper and you know,
Speaker 2: hand sanitizer and stuff.
Speaker 1: The hand sanitizer made sense to me during COVID, I
Speaker 1: understood people flocking and grabbing hand sanitizer by the gallons.
Speaker 1: What was the deal with the fucking toilet paper. What
Speaker 1: was the commodity rush to that. I still to this
Speaker 1: day do not understand how so many people were, like,
Speaker 1: the gonna start taxing on the toilet paper. They're not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to find anymore. Brother, they're still growing trees.
Speaker 1: What are we talking about here? But like they lost
Speaker 1: their shit for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody did. And that's that's the whole thing, is
Speaker 2: that if they said, hey, something's gonna happen in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, it might be a magnetic storm, a geomagnetic
Speaker 2: storm or solar storm, like, people would probably lose their
Speaker 2: fucking mind.
Speaker 1: Then you say it's a demonic geomagnetic storm. Now people
Speaker 1: are They're losing their fucking shit, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I do think that maybe you and
Speaker 2: I and people who listen to this show are more
Speaker 2: mature enough to handle something some kind of information.
Speaker 1: I will say that our cult members are they're a
Speaker 1: little more read in on the status of the world
Speaker 1: then I would argue the average bear for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're probably a little more prepared to handle.
Speaker 2: Something that's gonna come at us next Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I think for the most part, though, they're still propagandizing people,
Speaker 2: and hey, that's not what you see in the sky.
Speaker 2: You don't see plasmoids. You know, you're whatever, or you're
Speaker 2: seeing something different. That's just you know. I think the
Speaker 2: explanation for the drones, the Jersey drones, was something along
Speaker 2: the lines of, you know, we had some we had
Speaker 2: some drones looking for something, some kind of a nuclear
Speaker 2: spill or something along those lines. I don't remember what
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: That also is crazy. Yeah, the drones, they're flying over streets,
Speaker 1: they're sniffing for some we must have lost a nuke
Speaker 1: in New York City. I'm like, I'm sorry, back back
Speaker 1: up a little bit here. You mean that the government
Speaker 1: is hiding some sort of a dirty bomb in New
Speaker 1: York City and the best way they can go about
Speaker 1: looking for it is from flying drones over the city
Speaker 1: to look for it. Like, out loud, do you understand
Speaker 1: how crazy that is? Well? What else could it be?
Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't fucking know, but I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna go off of a guestimation here and say that
Speaker 1: there's no dirty bomb sitting inside of Hoboken or even Manhattan,
Speaker 1: And like that's crazy out loud, Now, you and I
Speaker 1: differ on this point. I do believe that those orbs
Speaker 1: lack of better words, was probably skunk work drones that
Speaker 1: was being released over this area, and they didn't want
Speaker 1: to tell the public that they have drones that are
Speaker 1: capable of flight for six to eight hours apiece because
Speaker 1: no one else on earth has that. But the crazy
Speaker 1: part to that, even it out of my own mouth,
Speaker 1: I question that own narrative because if that was the case,
Speaker 1: why would they fly it in plain sight over so
Speaker 1: many people. You'd be flying that somewhere where there's no inhabitants.
Speaker 1: If you're testing a new drone, a new plane, a
Speaker 1: new whatever, you wouldn't you would fly it over Utah,
Speaker 1: where there's maybe one little small city every two hundred miles.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be flying it over fucking Manhattan, dude. So, like,
Speaker 1: even out loud as I'm saying what I believe they are,
Speaker 1: I understand the plot holes one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but again we don't really know.
Speaker 2: I've heard I heard somebody say, and I think it
Speaker 2: was Jim Simmi Van who used to be the head
Speaker 2: over to the Stars Academy. You know, this is the
Speaker 2: organization with Tom DeLong from Blank one eighty two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I was just having this conversation about him
Speaker 1: the other day and they're like, wait, I was, I
Speaker 1: forget who I was talking to. Like wait, the dude
Speaker 1: from Blank win A Too is like big with the
Speaker 1: space and it's like, oh, yeah, oh he's been there
Speaker 1: for a hot minute. You're just out catching up. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Tom DeLong, he's that guy.
Speaker 2: Apparently, Well, plasma can affect our consciousness like it's it's
Speaker 2: essentially a highly intelligent being. Again that it's that can
Speaker 2: change your consciousness in some way.
Speaker 3: And Tom was writing a bunch.
Speaker 2: Of books and movies and doing all this other stuff
Speaker 2: that was talking about dreams and consciousness and things like that.
Speaker 2: And he was just a useful idiot. He was just
Speaker 2: a part of the propaganda. Yeah, you know, the government
Speaker 2: hired him, just like I just said. The State Department said, hey,
Speaker 2: can you help us with this? So they spun up
Speaker 2: to the Stars Academy and this is where what's his name,
Speaker 2: lou Alessando and all these people come from.
Speaker 3: Jim Simmy Van was.
Speaker 2: In other formers like of CIA person or something like
Speaker 2: that who went to work. Anyways, he was talking about
Speaker 2: how people wouldn't be able to handle the information rights
Speaker 2: it's that bad or whatever. And it's like he just
Speaker 2: that was a recent interview where he talked about that,
Speaker 2: and it's like, I don't know, it's it's always secondhand knowledge.
Speaker 2: He was talking about somebody who's told him that we
Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to handle that kind of information. And
Speaker 2: To the Stars Academy, by the way, they're like a
Speaker 2: clothing line.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it's a brand.
Speaker 3: It's a brand now.
Speaker 2: And they were promising in twenty seventeen all these like
Speaker 2: metals and meta meta materials and things and their weapons
Speaker 2: and they're gonna do all these research and all this
Speaker 2: other stuff.
Speaker 3: They got government contracts.
Speaker 2: I think they went public, and then in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: they just disbanded and dispersed and now Tom DeLong cells
Speaker 2: to the Stars jeans or some shit like that. To
Speaker 2: the Stars like shirts or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's basically a crypto pump and dump without the crypto.
Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially, it's essentially it was so it served its purpose.
Speaker 2: It was just a propaganda. And again you see Loue
Speaker 2: Elizondo over I saw a clip one time of him.
Speaker 2: For the last seven years, disclosure is gonna happen next year.
Speaker 2: Disclosure is gonna happen next year.
Speaker 1: They keep moving the fucking goalpost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they keep doing that, they're gonna you know,
Speaker 2: Disclosure Days is the movie by Steve Steven Spielberg, And
Speaker 2: you know what does he do in that trailer?
Speaker 3: I haven't seen the movies, just that he hasn't come
Speaker 3: out yet.
Speaker 2: He said it says, basically, humans aren't gonna be able
Speaker 2: to handle it and all this other stuff, and people
Speaker 2: are gonna freak out and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I agree with them by any means,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying that I could understand if we were
Speaker 1: talking nineteen forty five, nineteen fifty five, arguably even into
Speaker 1: the sixties, like okay, sure, the population, I mean, all right,
Speaker 1: my dad, for instance, is that guy that still believes
Speaker 1: well maybe not anymore, but up until you know twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: What you're saying is the government hates us. The government
Speaker 1: is trying to hurt their people. Seriously, why would the
Speaker 1: government want to hurt their people? Now, my dad and
Speaker 1: so many other boomers are like, hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: maybe just maybe the government fucking hates us and is
Speaker 1: going out of their way to screw us, and like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm glad the disclosure is going on to that level, right,
Speaker 1: good things, But to say that the people aren't ready
Speaker 1: for it when all these things about the Epstein files,
Speaker 1: people wanted to hear about the flight logs, and the
Speaker 1: government's like, did you know UFOs are real? And it's
Speaker 1: like yeah, yea, yeah, cool, we know, tell us about
Speaker 1: the flight logs. We want to know who was on
Speaker 1: Epstein's island. The government was like, wait, but aliens are real,
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, no, no, we know. Shut up, we
Speaker 1: want to hear about the flight logs. They kept pumping
Speaker 1: UFO shit while people were asking about Epstein, and it's like,
Speaker 1: the people are ready. Nobody's going to lose their their
Speaker 1: senses or lose their faith, or lose their faith in
Speaker 1: the government, or if there is any faith in the government.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. But like, people are not going to
Speaker 1: start like having riots in the streets because the government
Speaker 1: acknowledges aliens are real. That's bullshit. If you would have
Speaker 1: told me in fifty eight, they would have sure. Maybe
Speaker 1: we're kind of past that at this point.
Speaker 2: Honestly, that's how I see it. Too, Like I feel
Speaker 2: like everybody's like okay, But honestly it's because of guys
Speaker 2: like Steven Spielberg. Remember he had Jay allen Heinich working
Speaker 2: on Close Encounters of the Third Kind, who was in
Speaker 2: charge of Project blue Book, which came from the Smith Montact,
Speaker 2: which I was just telling you about. So Project blue Book,
Speaker 2: you know, he did that for like twenty years. It
Speaker 2: kept changing names because people are like, what is this?
Speaker 2: We want to know more about this, and they would
Speaker 2: do four year requests and they basically kept changing the name.
Speaker 2: So Jay Allen Heinek's son went on to become an
Speaker 2: OSCAR winning special effects person and he was the one
Speaker 2: who did the cloaking for Predator. Oh shit. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: And in the cloaking aspect is plasma. It's complex plasma
Speaker 2: because it's trans medium. It's a cloaking. My mom, that
Speaker 2: was just telling you about my where I grew up,
Speaker 2: all these crazy things happening there. My mom saw a
Speaker 2: cloaked what she's like, I don't know how to describe it,
Speaker 2: but it was a being. It was like a thing
Speaker 2: like an animal or something, and there was like a
Speaker 2: cloak thing around it, kind of like the predator, and
Speaker 2: so I think that they have all this information and
Speaker 2: they're putting it out there, but they've been doing it
Speaker 2: like a slow drip over the last fifty years. Yeah've
Speaker 2: been doing this slow drip thing. I think in preparation
Speaker 2: for some big event. And there's a lot of evidence
Speaker 2: of all these big CEOs and all this stuff leaving
Speaker 2: their companies in preparation for a big event.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's why they're leaving their companies or
Speaker 1: because they have ties to Ebstein?
Speaker 2: No, I thought. I think that they were leaving their
Speaker 2: companies because they think or thought that a cataclysm is
Speaker 2: coming from the solar storm that are happening and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. So I think that they were building all
Speaker 2: these bunkers in preparation for some big event, as in
Speaker 2: like the grid's gonna go down and then everybody's gonna
Speaker 2: want They're gonna be kicking down the doors to try
Speaker 2: to get the CEOs of Apple's toilet paper or whatever,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And so like Facebook, yourk
Speaker 2: Zuckerberg built a bunker, I think in preparation. And I
Speaker 2: think that it was the same with Elon Musk. A
Speaker 2: lot of these people, I don't know if you knew
Speaker 2: this or not, but a lot of CEOs bought boats
Speaker 2: and they live on the ocean. They bought yachts and
Speaker 2: they live on the ocean.
Speaker 3: They're like Elon.
Speaker 2: Musk did that. And so there was a lot of
Speaker 2: people just leaving companies, a lot of sports teams being
Speaker 2: sold around the same time, a lot of companies, CEOs
Speaker 2: stepping down like a lot.
Speaker 3: It was abnormal how.
Speaker 2: Many CEOs were stepping down. And I don't think it
Speaker 2: was ethical. I don't think it was any kind of
Speaker 2: ethical reason they were stepping down. I think they were
Speaker 2: doing that in preparation for something that was supposed to
Speaker 2: happen or maybe will happen by twenty thirty or whatever
Speaker 2: the case is.
Speaker 1: So again, you're the only person I've heard there saying
Speaker 1: that this would have been because of something solar. Most
Speaker 1: people in the conspiratorial community, especially these days with the
Speaker 1: Epstein files and all that, they think that between COVID
Speaker 1: and Epstein, these CEOs through their lot in with the
Speaker 1: bad guys, and that's about to be disclosed, and that's
Speaker 1: why so many CEOs have stepped down. You're saying that
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with that.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, because I mean politically, they
Speaker 2: could have used it against Elon, they could have used
Speaker 2: it against Trump before, they could have used it against everybody.
Speaker 3: So I don't think it was because.
Speaker 2: Of that, although there might be a little bit of
Speaker 2: that sprinkled in there.
Speaker 3: I just think that it was literally some.
Speaker 2: Kind of a cataclysmic type of thing that they were
Speaker 2: fearing that would happen. You know, the legal report of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five said that something was going to happen
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Here we are twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Six, right, Yeah, the so all of these things in
Speaker 2: the conspiracy world you mentioned Sember twenty twenty five, right,
Speaker 2: there was supposed to be some kind of a something happened.
Speaker 1: The rapture because some people were like, oh, it's because
Speaker 1: the Feast of Trumpets. It's happening on this day. And
Speaker 1: I know this because I saw something on TikTok and
Speaker 1: it's like, y'all understand the Feast of Trumpet's happens every year.
Speaker 1: That's like saying, well, I know it because of this
Speaker 1: thing called Honukkah. Most people haven't heard of it, but
Speaker 1: like it's kinda it's like that's a yearly occurrence. The
Speaker 1: Feast of Trumpet's happens like regularly, but for some reason,
Speaker 1: the people found a TikTok or found an Instagram post
Speaker 1: and that was enough to make them, truly, in their
Speaker 1: heart of hearts, believe that the rapture is about to
Speaker 1: take place. And it's like, literally, Jesus even said, nobody,
Speaker 1: even Jesus, does not know the day, in the hour,
Speaker 1: and the time. Only God the Father. So if any
Speaker 1: human being thinks they have figured it out, now the
Speaker 1: goalpost has been moved. Nobody's gonna know what's happening when
Speaker 1: it takes place. But like, sure, run that bitch. I
Speaker 1: guess I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And again this is why people are some
Speaker 2: people I don't think are ready to hear any kind
Speaker 2: of information about something like that. But it does suck
Speaker 2: that there are people who have insider knowledge or information
Speaker 2: and they're not sharing it with the world. That's not fair.
Speaker 2: Like if you're building a bunker in preparation for something
Speaker 2: cataclysmic that's gonna happen, that seems very unfair, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this now, the creators of
Speaker 1: AI multiple AI is not just chat GBT, not just
Speaker 1: Grock whatever. All of them believe it or not, that
Speaker 1: have developed their own version of a large language model
Speaker 1: or some type of AI, have all bought and built
Speaker 1: underground bunkers because they understand what's going to be taking
Speaker 1: place in the next few years. They believe that they
Speaker 1: have open Pandora's box. There's no way of putting it
Speaker 1: back in there, and it's only a matter of time
Speaker 1: before it takes over and it's gonna be the end
Speaker 1: of humanity for these levels of wealthy elites to build bunkers.
Speaker 1: What is your take on that? What's your take on AI?
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was saying about the out of
Speaker 2: closing type thing. There was a what was the name
Speaker 2: is Channing chan Thomas or something like that, who wrote
Speaker 2: the book The Story of Adam and Eve. How there's
Speaker 2: these cataclysms that happened every few hundred years and that
Speaker 2: was a cloud. They ended up classifying that to see
Speaker 2: how he classified it. Yeah, because the book was, I guess,
Speaker 2: so close to the truth and they just recently, not
Speaker 2: as long ago, declassified it. I actually first heard that
Speaker 2: on Sam Tripley's show timpo Hat and I don't remember
Speaker 2: who it was, but then I was looking into I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, and I've heard it since then.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've heard it.
Speaker 2: The guy from Bright Insights, I think, talked about it
Speaker 2: on Rogan and all that other stuff. But so I
Speaker 2: think that there are people who know that there's something
Speaker 2: that happens on a regular recurring basis, like there's probably
Speaker 2: some sort of a poll shift or something that happens
Speaker 2: regularly solar storms that changes the you know, maybe it
Speaker 2: flips the poles like I said, or changes the landscape
Speaker 2: of things, maybe it floods a certain area or whatever
Speaker 2: the case is.
Speaker 3: But I don't think that's the same.
Speaker 2: As the Biblical flood. Think the Biblical flood was something different.
Speaker 2: It was something more massive at the time. But I
Speaker 2: do think that they have this knowledge of something that's
Speaker 2: happening or it's gonna happen or whatever. There was supposed
Speaker 2: to be some people who were remote viewing through the
Speaker 2: Project looking Glass, and through Project looking Glass, they couldn't
Speaker 2: see past twenty twenty five, and they were freaking out
Speaker 2: because they couldn't see that, they couldn't predict the future
Speaker 2: past twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: I don't. I know that I have gotten a lot
Speaker 1: of shit from my opinions on remote viewing. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that there's no gratitude. I understand there's people
Speaker 1: that are able to do this, but hear me out
Speaker 1: there are so many people that were remote viewing to
Speaker 1: the three I Atlas comment and they said that there
Speaker 1: was clearly piloted by some sort of extra tressure life.
Speaker 1: They could see the faces, they heard the things that was.
Speaker 1: There's so so many reports of people that were channeling
Speaker 1: it and whatever clearly full of shit, right, And that's
Speaker 1: not all remote viewers, but there are so many people
Speaker 1: out there that are claiming that they're remote viewing that
Speaker 1: are obvious and I don't even think half of them
Speaker 1: are grifting. I think the majority of them are out
Speaker 1: of their fucking minds. Right. It's the same people that
Speaker 1: are doing sacrifices to demons. But they're like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: demons aren't like bad guys, they're just like guys. And
Speaker 1: you could use it like okay, you're tapping into something,
Speaker 1: you're out of your fucking mind for it, but like sure, okay,
Speaker 1: that's the thing you're doing. When the CIA did there,
Speaker 1: they're digging into this, right, people will look at it
Speaker 1: and say like, oh they had, I'm just throwing out
Speaker 1: an arbitrary number here, eighty thousand documents all saying that
Speaker 1: this shit is real, and it's like when you run
Speaker 1: through a filter. It was the CIA that was basically,
Speaker 1: for lack of better words, auditing the CIA. This would
Speaker 1: be like the IRS auditing the IRS and finding that
Speaker 1: they could find no faults within themselves with like no
Speaker 1: shit Sherlock. But when you put it through an actual
Speaker 1: logical filter, somewhere between one to three percent of it
Speaker 1: was actually something that can't be explained. I believe that
Speaker 1: this is a thing, but I also believe it because
Speaker 1: most of the CIA's project was trying to teach people
Speaker 1: how to remote view. It was to train the average
Speaker 1: Joe how to start doing remote viewing. As of this moment,
Speaker 1: very subject to change. I'm not like concrete in this belief,
Speaker 1: but I believe that most people can't do this because
Speaker 1: they don't have this ability right. It's something that you're
Speaker 1: born with. It's like psychics. I believe that psychics are
Speaker 1: a thing, but I believe Long Island medium and that
Speaker 1: I don't know what his name is all bitch made
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, maybe Hollywood medium. I don't know. They're clearly
Speaker 1: full of shit, and they're doing it for the griff,
Speaker 1: they're doing it for the show. Most of the people
Speaker 1: associated with the CIA organization were full of shit, but
Speaker 1: there was like one or two of them that probably
Speaker 1: had some real abilities within themselves that can't be explained.
Speaker 1: But I also think that's something you're born with. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm not like concrete in this belief, very very subject
Speaker 1: to change on this, but from all the research I've done,
Speaker 1: that just seems like the most logical solution.
Speaker 2: I agree. I did so. You had Rivoss on recently
Speaker 2: from Critics to Curiosities. He's one of my good friends.
Speaker 1: Love him to death, dude.
Speaker 2: He's the best man we had. He did a show.
Speaker 2: You should have him on to do this. He did
Speaker 2: a live remote viewing me. He and I did it
Speaker 2: together and we had the audience participate as well. I
Speaker 2: actually participated in it and he didn't. He basically chose
Speaker 2: three different videos and I did in somebody else did.
Speaker 2: We chose a location, took a picture or a video,
Speaker 2: and then the audience was supposed to guess through remote viewing.
Speaker 2: And there was there was a portion of it where
Speaker 2: he played some crickets chirping or something like that, and
Speaker 2: we all kind of closed our eyes and he counted.
Speaker 2: He gave us a number. He said, this is the
Speaker 2: target number, and that was it. He didn't tell us
Speaker 2: what it was. And dude, I got it fucking exactly right.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it works. I don't know if it
Speaker 2: works for everybody, because not everybody in Jack got it,
Speaker 2: but it worked for me.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And I was pretty close on the next one as well,
Speaker 2: and I actually tried it. I was telling my mom
Speaker 2: about it. I was like, this is crazy. So I
Speaker 2: got even my skeptical brother, older brother to do it
Speaker 2: and my mom and both of them were pretty spot
Speaker 2: on two to the point where it was like, there's
Speaker 2: no way on earth they could ever get this kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. Like with Ry, for example, his was like
Speaker 2: a location in Mexico where he's at and it was
Speaker 2: by the water, and it was by a train station,
Speaker 2: and there was a statue of this angel holding like
Speaker 2: an egg or something in its hands, and the video
Speaker 2: was him looking up with the camera at the at
Speaker 2: the statue of the person or the angel holding the thing,
Speaker 2: and we did the meditation or whatever you call it.
Speaker 2: Close our eyes and I describe I said, I don't
Speaker 2: know how to describe this, but there was like a
Speaker 2: man holding something over his head. And in my mind,
Speaker 2: I didn't tell I didn't say this on air, but
Speaker 2: I was looking up at this thing and all I
Speaker 2: saw behind it was blue sky and he's like, dude,
Speaker 2: I just got chills because it's like and when he
Speaker 2: showed the video, it was literally like an angel figure
Speaker 2: holding a baby or a ball or something. I thought
Speaker 2: it was a watermelon or something. I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's a watermelon or a ball or what.
Speaker 2: So it is real. And then, like I said, when
Speaker 2: my brother and my mom tried it, they, for example,
Speaker 2: like my mom gave us a target number for a
Speaker 2: picture of my grandma who who passed away, and in
Speaker 2: the corner of it was just like it was a
Speaker 2: trip that she went on to, like Mexico or somewhere
Speaker 2: like that, and in the corner of it was a
Speaker 2: little guy with a sombrero and my brother was Me
Speaker 2: and my brother both guessed like some guy with some
Speaker 2: brea arrow or something, and my mom was like, no
Speaker 2: fucking way, dude, that is crazy. So there are people
Speaker 2: who do have that ability to what extent, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Now that's also interesting with you, your brother and your mom.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering there's like a genetic thing they all tapped into,
Speaker 1: aside from some sort of remote viewing, something more of
Speaker 1: the bloodlines, right, which I acknowledge that. I truly believe
Speaker 1: that's a thing, right, not even because of my Christian beliefs,
Speaker 1: because the Bible does talk about hereditary blessings, hereditary curses.
Speaker 1: There is something within our genetics. I agree with this,
Speaker 1: But when it comes to remote viewing itself as far
Speaker 1: as like there's that one guy that was able to
Speaker 1: see a Russian rocket testing site and they gave him
Speaker 1: shit because he got it wrong because he saw a
Speaker 1: water tower or something. I'm missing it a little bit here,
Speaker 1: but there was like a water tank that was supposed
Speaker 1: to be there, and then when they showed the pictures,
Speaker 1: there was no water tank. But if you look at
Speaker 1: it per the day and age that he had actually
Speaker 1: did the remote viewing towards, there was a water tank
Speaker 1: there at that time, it had been taken down all
Speaker 1: these things, and like that's interesting as fuck, And like,
Speaker 1: no American even if you had some sort of a
Speaker 1: plug in Russia. You wouldn't have been able to know
Speaker 1: that they had that type of structure at this random
Speaker 1: remote site that most Russians didn't even know about. Like
Speaker 1: there's like levels upon levels upon levels. Right then, I.
Speaker 3: Think somebody, these people are full of shit.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, I see the three I at list.
Speaker 2: Person driving the ship is like, shut up, dude, that's
Speaker 2: fall fake.
Speaker 1: Anyways, dude, I have had so many people. I was
Speaker 1: scrolling through Instagram, which all the good cult members know
Speaker 1: I do not do. But I was scrolling Instagram the
Speaker 1: other day. There was this white woman, as as the
Speaker 1: white women be doing. That was a I'd be lying
Speaker 1: if I said a name. She had candles behind her,
Speaker 1: she had crystals around her, as most white women do,
Speaker 1: and was talking about how she was like, you know,
Speaker 1: am I remote viewing journey and this and this, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm already starting to get a little skeptical vibe.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to be that guy. Let me
Speaker 1: listen in a little bit, right I don't want to
Speaker 1: just throw the baby out with the bath water. Let
Speaker 1: me hear what she has to say. I saw three
Speaker 1: Iye at Lias, and I could tell the beings on
Speaker 1: it were that of love and light. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: and now we are fully onto the realm of crazy
Speaker 1: ass white women.
Speaker 2: For sure. I can't even Whenever I have people on
Speaker 2: my show now who talk about the cancel of light
Speaker 2: and you know, the pleaadians from, I'm like, it's not
Speaker 2: like stop, like we've heard this shit. They're not fucking
Speaker 2: They're not of the light, there of the devil.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this real shit. And and I
Speaker 1: am somebody who does believe in aliens. I've heard you
Speaker 1: say this throughout the show. You don't believe in space,
Speaker 1: you don't believe in the aliens, or at least what
Speaker 1: we might be thinking of is a little green men,
Speaker 1: a little gray men, whatever the case. I get this,
Speaker 1: but just walk with me, just for this hypothetical. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just for this example. Assume that space is real,
Speaker 1: planets are real, galaxies are real, and the narrative we
Speaker 1: were taught in school is real. Just hear me out.
Speaker 1: If we were to be visited by some sort of
Speaker 1: an extraterrestrial race, what are the fucking chances that we
Speaker 1: are getting visited by the space hippies that are like
Speaker 1: here to spread peace and love and enlightenment. What are
Speaker 1: the chances that we are actually getting visited by essentially
Speaker 1: the conquistadors that came into Latin America And fuck the
Speaker 1: astech's up just thinking out loud here, And I know
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this to a human perspective, but one
Speaker 1: of these sounds way more probable than the other to
Speaker 1: me personally. I don't know. Maybe I'm just a bit
Speaker 1: of a stick in the mud here, but I have
Speaker 1: a hard time believing that if there's a race out
Speaker 1: there that has the technology to make it across space,
Speaker 1: cut through space time, maybe even travel air dimensionally, who
Speaker 1: fucking knows, and they're coming to Earth to make contact
Speaker 1: with us, that they're coming here to be like, hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: let me give y'all some tech, let me give y'all
Speaker 1: some some abilities, let me help your race out, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna share love and light. I have a really
Speaker 1: hard time believing that.
Speaker 2: Well, why don't they just fucking show themselves all the
Speaker 2: time if that's the case clearly right, Like if you're
Speaker 2: if you're here for a great mission, and why can't
Speaker 2: you just present yourself and say we're here for love
Speaker 2: and light and unity. I think everybody would be on
Speaker 2: board with that. But that's the problem. They don't do that.
Speaker 2: They always go to somebody who does drugs, respectfully, people
Speaker 2: who do drugs, and also, by the way, respectfully to
Speaker 2: people who believe in the Council of Light. I know
Speaker 2: a lot of these people, like I said, I've had
Speaker 2: on my show. They're awesome women, they're awesome men. Like
Speaker 2: I have nothing against how they feel. I really believe
Speaker 2: that they feel that with their heart. But I think
Speaker 2: that they are being tricked. I think they're being manipulated
Speaker 2: by these things that are saying that they are angels
Speaker 2: of light and they're not.
Speaker 1: I feel like feelings in reality are so disconnected that's
Speaker 1: not even funny. And I know that I'm people are
Speaker 1: gonna shit on me for that belief. But honestly, you
Speaker 1: can go and feel whatever the fuck you want that
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with reality of the situation. I
Speaker 1: know I'm an asshole for that, but I mean it
Speaker 1: is what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man. I Again, it's not not bashing anybody. I'm
Speaker 2: not one of those kinds of people who really like
Speaker 2: the bashed people.
Speaker 3: But I do think that. But again, if there is a.
Speaker 2: If there is a self organizing intelligence that has been
Speaker 2: around for millions or billions of years.
Speaker 3: They know all of recorded history.
Speaker 2: Because it's embedded in the silicon silicone that they attach
Speaker 2: themselves to as complex dusty plasma. If they're witnessing history
Speaker 2: for millions and billions of years, they know all the technologies,
Speaker 2: they know all of the secrets, they know. They know
Speaker 2: how to manipulate you and say, yeah, I am Jesus,
Speaker 2: I'm a member of the Council of Light or whatever
Speaker 2: the case is.
Speaker 1: Oh, now we get to the Christ's consciousness conversation, which
Speaker 1: is laughable to me personally. That's Eckhart as heretical as fuck.
Speaker 2: But okay, well, I actually think that there's some crossover
Speaker 2: in these areas of the Christ consciousness stuff. Like people
Speaker 2: have their foot in the door if they're talking about
Speaker 2: Christ consciousness, and I don't think that we should close
Speaker 2: the door on people who have who are geared towards that.
Speaker 2: What do you mean because well, because I mean it
Speaker 2: could be looked at as like the Holy Spirit kind
Speaker 2: of a thing, right.
Speaker 1: It was like, if that was the case, then I
Speaker 1: would have no problem with it. But what it is
Speaker 1: is basically saying that like, no, I believe in Jesus,
Speaker 1: but I believe I am Jesus. I believe you're Jesus.
Speaker 1: I believe I believe. It's like, okay, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's not what we're talking about here. If you're talking
Speaker 1: about the Holy Spirit moving within you and moving you
Speaker 1: towards the path of goodness and light, right, good things, good, great?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 1: You want to put a different title on it than
Speaker 1: I do. I don't care. You're doing good things. These
Speaker 1: people are somehow taking that and then somehow blending it
Speaker 1: with gnostic terminology and heretical anti biblical terminology, but still
Speaker 1: calling it Christ's consciousness. And it's like all right, no,
Speaker 1: like just just know I you know, Okay, cool, I
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. Though, I want to believe that
Speaker 1: the people that are trying to tap into christ consciousness,
Speaker 1: if they are trying to tap into who Jesus was
Speaker 1: and trying to imbue that into who they are today,
Speaker 1: good things. Hell yeah, that never seems to be the
Speaker 1: case with people that I talk to that are about
Speaker 1: that shit. I don't know. Maybe I'm just talking to
Speaker 1: the wrong crowd.
Speaker 2: And the truth of it is, again, if they're talking
Speaker 2: about love and light, and they're talking about Christ and
Speaker 2: whether that's Christ consciousness or whatever. They're already almost there
Speaker 2: because all throughout the Bible it's everywhere. God is love,
Speaker 2: God is light everywhere. So that's what I'm saying is like,
Speaker 2: these people are almost there, and I think it's easy
Speaker 2: if you're a Christian, it wouldn't be that difficult to convert.
Speaker 3: Someone who is almost there.
Speaker 2: Just say, hey, maybe consider that Christ is king, right,
Speaker 2: maybe considering that's the part is God?
Speaker 1: Right, It's like, that's the part they're all about, the
Speaker 1: Christ consciousness. But as soon as you're like, well, hey, okay,
Speaker 1: how about read the Gospels and then see how that applies,
Speaker 1: I was like, well, why would I read that was
Speaker 1: written by men? And it's like okay, well never mind,
Speaker 1: now we're back to square one.
Speaker 2: Cool? Cool, cool, Yeah, No, I'm with you, dude, because
Speaker 2: whenever I first started waking up, I was like I
Speaker 2: didn't really understand, Like what am I am? I mystical?
Speaker 2: Am I a mystic Christian? I didn't even know because
Speaker 2: I grew up a Baptist. I grew up going to
Speaker 2: church my whole life. I grew up going to church camp.
Speaker 2: But I felt disconnected from the church. I didn't feel
Speaker 2: like I was a part. I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 2: what this is, but that doesn't feel right, and so
Speaker 2: I was trying to find my own way.
Speaker 3: And at first I was saying.
Speaker 2: That maybe it is christ consciousness, maybe it is this.
Speaker 2: But then I again, the more scripture you read, the
Speaker 2: more you start to say, oh, like Christ is king,
Speaker 2: Christ is God. He was God right, and it's like
Speaker 2: there's no mincing words on that. But again, I think
Speaker 2: it's a path of like, Okay, you're almost there. And
Speaker 2: I don't think it be that hard to convert somebody
Speaker 2: who's almost there. I just think that they have to
Speaker 2: do it. It's like the science the spirituality conversation.
Speaker 3: They're the same thing.
Speaker 2: Like if you say quantum whatever, it's the same as
Speaker 2: or if you say anti matter and matter, it's the
Speaker 2: same as saying light and dark, and they just have
Speaker 2: different terminology for it. And most I think even Einstein
Speaker 2: was saying something about God. I was like, pretty hard
Speaker 2: to deny the fact that God exists or God is real. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if they're looking into all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So he was basically saying, if I'm remembering the quote
Speaker 1: that you might be referencing here. He was saying that, like,
Speaker 1: you can't make something darker, you can take away more
Speaker 1: light from it. You can't make something colder, you can
Speaker 1: take more heat from it. And you can't make something
Speaker 1: more evil, you can only take away more God from it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, that's a very good recall,
Speaker 2: by the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember hearing it, dude. And there's a couple
Speaker 1: of instances of Einstein, and I know some people like
Speaker 1: shit all over him. Take it what you want. The
Speaker 1: dude was brilliant. Okay, whether you agree or disagree with
Speaker 1: his theorems, the guy was on a level that most
Speaker 1: humans will never actually touch. So like whatever, But uh,
Speaker 1: did you ever hear the story of him and his driver.
Speaker 2: Nod or something.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: He married one of his cousins. That's yeah. He wasn't gay.
Speaker 1: He might have been something wild, but he wasn't gay.
Speaker 2: But no.
Speaker 1: Here so, and I don't know if this is true
Speaker 1: or not. I like to believe that it's true. So basically,
Speaker 1: Einstein was going on these speaking tours, right, and he
Speaker 1: had like two hundred speaking engagements all across the continent US.
Speaker 1: He was going to these colleges, these these symposiums, whatever,
Speaker 1: and he was talking about his theory of relativity and
Speaker 1: all the nuances to it. Cool cool, cool, Well, his
Speaker 1: driver was there for every talk, like he would drive
Speaker 1: him to the thing. He would sit in the back
Speaker 1: of the room whatever. Cool cool, cool somewhere around like
Speaker 1: speaking engagement number two O two or two oh three rd.
Speaker 1: Einstein was sick as fuck, he had the flu, whatever
Speaker 1: the case. He couldn't get on stage. And his driver
Speaker 1: And keep in mind, this is before the day of
Speaker 1: like TV, so like if he would have shown up
Speaker 1: and kind of looked kind of like the part, people
Speaker 1: would have probably just assumed it was the guy. And
Speaker 1: so the driver's like, listen, why don't I just get
Speaker 1: the speech and pretend to be you. I've heard you
Speaker 1: get this speech like two hundred times, like I know
Speaker 1: what to say and what to do. And Albert's like,
Speaker 1: you know what, fuck it, Like I can't get up
Speaker 1: there and speak. If you think you can, what's the
Speaker 1: worst that can happen? Just roll with it. So he does,
Speaker 1: and he gives it beautifully. He doesn't miss a note.
Speaker 1: But then one of these professors I forget what college
Speaker 1: it was at. One of these professors asked him some
Speaker 1: question that the driver didn't know. It was like a
Speaker 1: really nuanced question to it, and without missing a beat,
Speaker 1: he's like, and he they swapped roles. Albert Einstein was
Speaker 1: pretending to be the driver. The driver's pretending to be
Speaker 1: Albert Einstein, and he's like, Sir, that question is so plebeian.
Speaker 1: My driver could even answer that for you, if you would, sir,
Speaker 1: And the driver quote unquote Albert Einstein stood up and
Speaker 1: answered it for him, and it was like, bro, I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a true story, but I like
Speaker 1: to believe it's real.
Speaker 2: You know, sounds pretty real.
Speaker 3: But that's pretty cool, man.
Speaker 2: I don't know how badass they were like that back
Speaker 2: in the day, but.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's dope. But no, No, to your.
Speaker 2: Point, bicycles and shit, yeah they did.
Speaker 1: But to your point, as far as the quantum theory,
Speaker 1: quantum entanglement, all these things that thirty years ago was
Speaker 1: strictly to the realm of sci fi. But now we
Speaker 1: understand that we are building quantum supercomputers based off of
Speaker 1: these theories and they're able to actually do the things.
Speaker 1: So I'm with you to a level here there is
Speaker 1: at least some great area here, there's some nuances, But
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like a lot of people
Speaker 1: as far as the spiritual community. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: this to shit on the spirituality or shit on the
Speaker 1: woo woo, I am not. These people are doing their best,
Speaker 1: just like we're all doing our best.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Cool, But it's like I don't agree with the what's
Speaker 1: the word whenever you take a little bit of everything eclectic,
Speaker 1: I don't agree with eclecticism. I can understand why somebody
Speaker 1: would go that route and they take a little bit
Speaker 1: from this theory, a little bit from this theory, a
Speaker 1: little bit from this religion, a little bit from this religion,
Speaker 1: and they amalgamate it into their own version of what
Speaker 1: is right. I could agree with it to a point,
Speaker 1: but it's like there's a certain point where one plus
Speaker 1: one equals two and it doesn't matter how many things
Speaker 1: you pull from certain angles to see. Well, maybe if
Speaker 1: you look at it this way, one plus one equals three,
Speaker 1: or like you're over here worrying about what one plus
Speaker 1: one equals two. You're not even interested in what the
Speaker 1: plus means or what the one means, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're trying to like go super in depth on the
Speaker 1: explanation rather than just looking at what the point of
Speaker 1: this is. Once you find truth, once you find absolute,
Speaker 1: undeniable truth, you shouldn't try to find other theories to
Speaker 1: disprove it. You can accept that and move forward into
Speaker 1: a deeper realm of truth. And I feel like so
Speaker 1: many people are negating that because they are uncomfortable with truth.
Speaker 1: And maybe that does go towards the alien disclosure and
Speaker 1: all these things. Maybe people really are uncomfortable with truth.
Speaker 2: I don't know, people definitely uncomfortable with truth, dude. But
Speaker 2: I pulled up Isaiah forty five to seven. It says
Speaker 2: I formed the light and create the darkness. I bring
Speaker 2: prosperity and create disaster. I the Lord do all these things.
Speaker 2: And also it says that God made the light, and
Speaker 2: he made the lesser light right, and he made the
Speaker 2: light to rule over the lesser light as well.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I've heard some people say that's the
Speaker 1: sun and fire. You're saying that that is not what
Speaker 1: that is intending.
Speaker 2: I think it's just literally matter and anti matter, which
Speaker 2: is now darkness. Like again, anti matter becomes dark matter.
Speaker 3: Matter is matter.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be anything without a photon animating it. So
Speaker 2: God's light still animates that matter, right and again we're
Speaker 2: calling it, we call it a photon, but it's just
Speaker 2: a light, a piece of light.
Speaker 1: Right now, they know that photons have mass. That's a
Speaker 1: whole other thing. We just talked about this a couple
Speaker 1: of months ago. They were able to freeze a photon
Speaker 1: and weigh it. Apparently, light particles have a mass. They're
Speaker 1: an actual They're not just like a theory of light.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: No, this is a thing that you can capture, you
Speaker 1: can do things with it. There's a mathematical equation to
Speaker 1: back all that up. That's a whole other level into
Speaker 1: what fifteen years ago would have been seen as sci fi.
Speaker 1: And in the day and age we're living in, we
Speaker 1: know that that is reality. And that blows my mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean all this stuff, Like I said, man,
Speaker 2: it's just that at some point metaphysics and the talk
Speaker 2: of like classical physics used to be metaphysics, and then
Speaker 2: at the turn of the century, in the early nineteen hundreds,
Speaker 2: Einstein's theory relativity changed all that. Instead of the General
Speaker 2: Education Board they basically took out which by the way,
Speaker 2: was founded by two Baptist preachers or not founded, was
Speaker 2: founded by John Rockefeller, the Rockefeller Foundation. But the General
Speaker 2: Education Board was ran by mostly Baptist ministers from the South,
Speaker 2: and they didn't want a a bunch of philosophers and
Speaker 2: thinkers and mathematicians and things like that.
Speaker 3: And they literally state that in their.
Speaker 2: General in the General Education like I don't know if
Speaker 2: it was like their mission statement or something. They wanted
Speaker 2: they wanted docile factory workers essentially what they wanted. So
Speaker 2: that was that was Baptist preachers who were who were
Speaker 2: doing that. So it's not just this crosses all different
Speaker 2: religions and boundaries and all this other stuff. I think
Speaker 2: that they went around the nineteen hundreds, they took all
Speaker 2: this stuff out, and we lost our whole sense of
Speaker 2: all these you know, play though, and all these guys
Speaker 2: talking about metaphysics for thousands of years, and metaphysics all
Speaker 2: that was was spiritual talk. It's all the stuff that
Speaker 2: we're talking about light and darkness and you know, the play,
Speaker 2: those allegory of the cave and all this other stuff.
Speaker 2: So they had already talked to they had crossed this
Speaker 2: bridge a long time ago, but they but people like
Speaker 2: Rockefeller dismantled it in the in the nineteen hundreds, in
Speaker 2: the late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, and we're left
Speaker 2: with like rediscovering this stuff again, like ether became I
Speaker 2: think became plasma in nineteen twenty nine. I think when
Speaker 2: they talk about ether is the fifth element, I think
Speaker 2: they're also talking about I think they're calling it plasma,
Speaker 2: the fourth state of matter.
Speaker 1: Now, so there's something to be said for that one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. Some will say that the ether means like
Speaker 1: the soul or the spirit. If you look at the
Speaker 1: actual alchemical texts, which we would now call chemistry, but
Speaker 1: back in the you know, one hundred AD, they were
Speaker 1: calling it alchemy. They basically were writing out these equations,
Speaker 1: and I I've had so many debates of these people
Speaker 1: talking about how alchemy the divine masculine, the divine feminine,
Speaker 1: all this. If we were using today's terminology, we would
Speaker 1: say acids and bases, and how when you combine them
Speaker 1: you get a purifying substance. We would now call that
Speaker 1: a salt, like that's all it is. But they were
Speaker 1: trying to find a way to verbalize something that they
Speaker 1: had no math to equate it to. They knew if
Speaker 1: you were to add A plus B you would get C,
Speaker 1: and the way they made these formulas work was by
Speaker 1: using ether in the middle of that. It was like
Speaker 1: that unknown that X factor, if you will. Now, some
Speaker 1: of these, like you're saying, could have been something more
Speaker 1: along the lines of spiritual or quantum or light. Some
Speaker 1: of this was realistically like an algebraic equation that they
Speaker 1: didn't have a real thing to define X, but they
Speaker 1: put it in there because they knew when you add
Speaker 1: substance A to this X factor you would get something else.
Speaker 1: And like they knew the math mathed, they just didn't
Speaker 1: have the words to quantify it. Right, It's we have
Speaker 1: math that equates to like the twelfth dimension. At this
Speaker 1: point in our understanding, we know for a fact that
Speaker 1: at least twelve dimensions exists. We're living in the third
Speaker 1: but we know that twelve exists. There's probably a thousand,
Speaker 1: there's an infinity. We just don't have the math to
Speaker 1: quantify that. Yet. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We're
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out how to define that X factor, right,
Speaker 1: And I think there's a little bit of some leeway
Speaker 1: towards the scientific and towards the spiritual when it comes
Speaker 1: to that factor, for sure.
Speaker 2: Regardless, man, like I said, I just think that it
Speaker 2: was all hijacked and taken from us at some point
Speaker 2: for whatever agenda. It was, maybe to control information. But
Speaker 2: I think that again, that classical physics talk had nothing
Speaker 2: to do with all the stuff that we say now,
Speaker 2: all the quantum and all this other stuff it They
Speaker 2: literally talk about things like they were talking about things
Speaker 2: like science can take you up to the Big Bang theory.
Speaker 2: That's great, matter versus anti adjusts, great, But what about
Speaker 2: beyond that?
Speaker 3: Where the hell did it come from?
Speaker 1: Dude? The Big Bang theory was created by a Jesuit priest, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: And when you tell the science community that, they're like, wait,
Speaker 1: that's bullshit, and it's like no, no, no, do a little
Speaker 1: bit of research like the Big Bang itself was created
Speaker 1: by a Catholic priest and they get real upset about that.
Speaker 1: But it's like, I'm sorry, I didn't make the rules.
Speaker 1: I'm just reporting on the shit here. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: you're right. It explains to a point, and then this
Speaker 1: other thing explains to a point, and then this other
Speaker 1: other thing explains to a point.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, that's what the philosophers of the day
Speaker 2: back then, they were talking beyond that.
Speaker 3: That's a meta that's what the metaphysics from, right.
Speaker 2: It's like they were talking beyond what we can observe
Speaker 2: observably see with our own two eyes. They I would
Speaker 2: imagine that the air was probably better. People were bigger
Speaker 2: those kinds of things back in the day, and they
Speaker 2: could probably see energies around them more. They can probably
Speaker 2: experience things a lot differently than what they can experience now.
Speaker 2: That's honestly what I believe. I don't know that any
Speaker 2: I don't have any proof of that. It's just kind
Speaker 2: of how I feel that. Yeah, But I do think
Speaker 2: that again, that all these these different terminologies were hijacked
Speaker 2: for whatever the purpose was, and we're just kind of
Speaker 2: we're kind of reawakening to all this. This is why,
Speaker 2: again when I started the show was to whatever it is,
Speaker 2: I will follow that nugget of truth or whatever I
Speaker 2: think it is the truth, whatever my gut tells me.
Speaker 2: And honestly, I feel like I'm being led by the
Speaker 2: Holy Spirit in that direction. I feel like you know,
Speaker 2: I'm coming to information that wasn't of my own, you know,
Speaker 2: like I'll find things out and I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 2: was just reading this and it led me down to this,
Speaker 2: and now I'm reading about solar cycles, for example.
Speaker 3: And again I'm not I'm not even like when you hear.
Speaker 2: Me talk, you would probably think, oh, he's definitely reading
Speaker 2: Scientific America and all this other shit. Oh dude, I'm
Speaker 2: like literally just baseball on Instagram and playing Fortnite and
Speaker 2: things like that, and then it'll just be like, all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I'll have something come to me and
Speaker 2: I'm like, and I'll just start reading into that or
Speaker 2: researching that a little bit. And that's kind of how
Speaker 2: I've been doing things. But I think that I'm being
Speaker 2: guided by the Holy Spirit. And I used to not
Speaker 2: really know how to explain that. I used to get
Speaker 2: synchronicities and all this other stuff, and I would go,
Speaker 2: I don't really know what that is. Maybe it's angels,
Speaker 2: maybe it's I don't really know it's is. But but
Speaker 2: now I know it's the Holy Spirit. And I think
Speaker 2: that when you're aligned with the Holy Spirit, when you're
Speaker 2: aligned with what God wants with his will, when your
Speaker 2: will aligns with his will, then magic happens and he
Speaker 2: starts kind of using you for his will as well,
Speaker 2: as long as you're open to it. Right, as long
Speaker 2: as your senses are aware of those kind of things,
Speaker 2: you just start being all of a sudden.
Speaker 3: Like I've said on.
Speaker 2: Other shows, there was there was two day in a
Speaker 2: road where I saved two babies, one in a car
Speaker 2: accident and one from crossing a road. And I'm always
Speaker 2: in places where I'm uniquely in a position to help
Speaker 2: for some reason, whatever that may be. A woman fell
Speaker 2: at the dump one day and busted her face open,
Speaker 2: and I just happened to be there at the moment
Speaker 2: she did that, and had his first aid kit butterfly
Speaker 2: band aids and all this other stuff. And those might
Speaker 2: seem like small things, but I feel like that timing
Speaker 2: puts me in those places to be able to do
Speaker 2: something or see something or understand something or help someone.
Speaker 2: And I think that's all from the Holy Spirit. And
Speaker 2: I used to not really know what that was, but
Speaker 2: now I'm one hundred percent positive it's the Holy Spirit's
Speaker 2: God guiding me and helping me help him right along
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 1: So Brother, I've said it a million times. God doesn't
Speaker 1: choose the called, He calls the chosen. And that's just
Speaker 1: how this works. Right. So many people, especially when they
Speaker 1: start diving deeper into the Word and diving deeper into
Speaker 1: what God's purpose for their life is, they'll find that
Speaker 1: the world around them starts to get shaky, They start
Speaker 1: getting hit with life curve balls, bad things start to
Speaker 1: happen around them, and it's like, yeah, no, no, that's
Speaker 1: a really good sign. And that sounds counterintuitive, but like
Speaker 1: the devil is running shit as of this moment on
Speaker 1: this earth, in this physical reality, with this flesh shoot
Speaker 1: that our souls happen to be encased in. When you
Speaker 1: start doing the right thing, he's going to do so
Speaker 1: many things to try to dissuade you from the path.
Speaker 1: You need to stay the course. You need to stay
Speaker 1: on your p's and q's and make sure that you're
Speaker 1: not going into that realm because when that time comes
Speaker 1: and you are called to be that person that God
Speaker 1: called you to be, you need to be ready. And
Speaker 1: the devil knows that, which is why he's going to
Speaker 1: do things to try to cause you discomfort. Along the way.
Speaker 1: The Bible told us to arm yourself sell your cloak
Speaker 1: and bio sword if you don't have one. God told
Speaker 1: us to where your spiritual armor daily. You don't tell
Speaker 1: a gardener in some peaceful commune to put his armor
Speaker 1: on daily. You tell a warrior who's going to experience
Speaker 1: conflict to wear his armor and strap up daily. And
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, maybe that could mean physically. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I never leave home without my peace. But
Speaker 1: beside the point, I mean he's talking about a spiritual
Speaker 1: warfare that we are fighting every single day for the
Speaker 1: people out there that are really trying to dive deeper
Speaker 1: into God's ship, like calling for their lives. Don't expect
Speaker 1: this to be an easy road. It's gonna be rough,
Speaker 1: because that's how life works, especially when you're trying to
Speaker 1: do the right thing. But if anything, you should take
Speaker 1: that as a as a good sign that you are
Speaker 1: on the correct path. One hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like when you when your light starts shining,
Speaker 2: when your internal light starts shining, it's like the upside
Speaker 2: down and stranger things. Yeah, where the darkness can see
Speaker 2: that light and they all just come running towards you
Speaker 2: at the same time, like, let's go, let's go attack
Speaker 2: this light absolutely to moss to a flame kind of
Speaker 2: a thing.
Speaker 3: That's kind of how I see it.
Speaker 2: And it's true. And when you when you detach yourself
Speaker 2: from porn or alcohol or whatever it is, then it's
Speaker 2: going to feel like it's going to get stronger a little.
Speaker 3: Maybe other things start happening.
Speaker 2: That happened with me. I stopped drinking not that long ago,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden things stop, things started happening,
Speaker 2: and I just feel like it was because I kicked
Speaker 2: the spirits out, the evil spirits, that the demonic things
Speaker 2: that might have been, you know, resting in my vessel.
Speaker 2: And you know Jesus talked about if you tell the
Speaker 2: spirits to go out, you have to make sure you
Speaker 2: feel your your your house, you're with you know light.
Speaker 2: That way, the demons won't come back, because they will
Speaker 2: come back seven times stronger if you if you don't
Speaker 2: fill your house with love and light.
Speaker 1: So brother, nature hates avoid Nature hates a vacuum. Something
Speaker 1: is going to be rushing in to fill the empty space.
Speaker 1: And if you are not making the effort to fill
Speaker 1: it with good things, oh don't worry, the dark things
Speaker 1: will rush in to fill the void. That is an
Speaker 1: absolute fact. Whether we're talking physical reality or virtual reality,
Speaker 1: both are true one hundred.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say one more thing too, and
Speaker 2: kind of I can kind of sense this s winding
Speaker 2: down a little bit. But I could talk all night,
Speaker 2: by the way, if you want to. But I was recently,
Speaker 2: I was, you know, I just told you about I
Speaker 2: bought a new truck, right and I had my truck
Speaker 2: twenty years and it was four hundred thousand miles.
Speaker 1: It just which is impressive. Twenty years and forty four
Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles, break big dog. That is impressive, as
Speaker 1: falk that you had a truck last that long.
Speaker 2: Well, it only lasted because I kept putting money into it.
Speaker 2: But a few months back I had started having an
Speaker 2: oil leak and I couldn't figure out where the old
Speaker 2: league was coming from. Long story short, it spent like
Speaker 2: five or six thousand dollars almost eight thousand total, to
Speaker 2: be honest with you, But two thousand and that was
Speaker 2: like tires, so I don't really count that. But I
Speaker 2: spent a lot of money because I was like, well,
Speaker 2: i'll just fix it and maybe it'll last me for
Speaker 2: another few hundred thousand miles or whatever. Stupidly, but then
Speaker 2: it still kept leaking oil. And long story short, I
Speaker 2: was supposed to either get a new motor or a
Speaker 2: new crank shaft for it, and one way or another
Speaker 2: that was going to cost thousands more, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: but I don't really have the money to get a
Speaker 2: new vehicle. When my wife and I built this house
Speaker 2: that we're in now, we pretty much like maxed out
Speaker 2: everything just to get in here, and then we've been
Speaker 2: paying off all that stuff since.
Speaker 3: So my credit's been great. My credit's always great.
Speaker 2: So it was my wife's. But I had a credit
Speaker 2: card that had some money put on it, and that
Speaker 2: just because that money was on there and it was
Speaker 2: a revolving credit, it lowered my credit score a lot,
Speaker 2: like a lot more than what it should a lot
Speaker 2: more than made me comfortable for Yeah, and it was.
Speaker 2: It lowered it, matter of fact, to about seven sixty,
Speaker 2: which is still pretty good.
Speaker 1: But it lowered my god, seven sixty is a low
Speaker 1: credit score for you.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because it was like eight.
Speaker 2: It's always been in the high eight, eight thirty eight
Speaker 2: forty something.
Speaker 1: You are so white, it's offensive. I can't even tell
Speaker 1: you a time in my life when I had over
Speaker 1: a seven hundred. Although, to be fair, two divorces will
Speaker 1: do that to you. So I mean, yeah, but here's
Speaker 1: the thing.
Speaker 2: And by the way, that's not a flex at all.
Speaker 1: No that but whether you recognize it or not, that
Speaker 1: is a flex, dude.
Speaker 2: Well well, well but for me because now I'm doing
Speaker 2: this full time, so I don't have an income. That's
Speaker 2: like I can't put down an income on paper that's like, okay,
Speaker 2: that's a pretty impressive income. I got a great credit score,
Speaker 2: but not a lot of income coming in, so I
Speaker 2: was really worried about like being able to get a
Speaker 2: new truck. And I was like, I just I don't
Speaker 2: think that nobody's going to give me a good truck,
Speaker 2: a nice truck, for a good.
Speaker 3: Interest rate or whatever the case was.
Speaker 2: But somehow, you know, credit reports go out like every
Speaker 2: first of the month, every you know, they report at
Speaker 2: the end of the month basically, so first or second every.
Speaker 3: Month you get a new credit report.
Speaker 2: Well, somehow my credit card was paid off in one
Speaker 2: day and I don't know, I don't know where it
Speaker 2: came from. It just got paid off and then the
Speaker 2: next day it was put back on there as if
Speaker 2: somebody made a mistake, accounting mistake or something like that.
Speaker 2: But that one day that it was put on, that
Speaker 2: was taken off, it made my credit score go back
Speaker 2: up to like eight thirty three, damn. And so like
Speaker 2: it was it for that whatever that, for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: I just think that that was kind of divine, like
Speaker 2: a divine moment. It was like, okay, like you need
Speaker 2: a truck, I'm going to help you out.
Speaker 3: You're doing my will.
Speaker 2: I know it sounds freaking crazy, No, not at all.
Speaker 2: People can look into it, however they won't, but to me,
Speaker 2: it just feels like that's that's what that was, was
Speaker 2: some kind of divine intervention to hey, get your truck,
Speaker 2: take care of yourself, and then keep doing the mission
Speaker 2: kind of a thing. But that that's not the only time,
Speaker 2: and there's been times where we were building this house.
Speaker 3: We maxed out everything, like I said.
Speaker 2: And we needed one more loan payment for the construction loan,
Speaker 2: and I just started selling baseball cards in February, I
Speaker 2: mean just by started buying and selling baseball cards in
Speaker 2: February of that year, and then in August we.
Speaker 3: Moved into the house.
Speaker 2: Right but we had one more loan payment and we
Speaker 2: literally had no money. We were done. We had nothing,
Speaker 2: and I told my wife, I'm like, everything's gonna be okay.
Speaker 2: It was like, it's like twelve hundred and fifty dollars
Speaker 2: for the loan payment or whatever. I was like, we're
Speaker 2: gonna be fine. We left there, Dude. That night, I
Speaker 2: sold a baseball card for sixteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Cool man.
Speaker 2: After eBay took all its taxes and all this other
Speaker 2: stuff selling fees, I was left with the exact amount
Speaker 2: I needed to pay that mortgage. Dude.
Speaker 3: And I just think that, like, take that how you will,
Speaker 3: but I just take.
Speaker 2: I think that that was some kind of a divine
Speaker 2: way of helping me continue doing things for God for
Speaker 2: his mission, if you will.
Speaker 3: And those things happened regularly. I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 2: It's so weird that they haven't. Matter of fact, I
Speaker 2: was telling my little brother about all this stuff the
Speaker 2: other day. He's like, he's very like, you're suck an
Speaker 2: evangelical preacher or something.
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't. When if this stuff happens to you, you
Speaker 2: can't really explain it to people because outside looking in,
Speaker 2: everybody's gonna what a coincidence. That's just a coincidence, right,
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you it was something more than that.
Speaker 2: And I think that when you're aligned with God's will,
Speaker 2: those things can they will happen regularly. Like no matter
Speaker 2: what happens in your life, God will never let you
Speaker 2: go without. And that's how I've I'm never afraid of anything.
Speaker 2: I'm never afraid of when my account gets low, I'm
Speaker 2: never afraid of not having money it all.
Speaker 1: Now, that doesn't mean that God is gonna hook you
Speaker 1: up to be a multimillionaire over.
Speaker 2: Right now exactly, but exactly.
Speaker 1: You are never gonna somehow magically or in my personal
Speaker 1: humble opinion, very much like you divinely, You're gonna have
Speaker 1: what you need when you need it as long as
Speaker 1: you stay faithful. I am a firm believer of that.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the baseball cards, due, what is that in
Speaker 1: the case spinning behind you? I have been want to
Speaker 1: ask you all episode now that I know that you're
Speaker 1: saying baseball cards, what is that?
Speaker 2: So? Uh, that is a baseball card and it's kind
Speaker 2: of hard to see, but I'll try to lift it up. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: it's floating. That's floating levitating. Oh no, shit, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: levitation right there.
Speaker 3: That's magnetic.
Speaker 2: So so I bought that because I'm like, well, this
Speaker 2: is how UFOs fly. It's a it's called airtime air display.
Speaker 2: And I told him, I'm like, dude, people always ask
Speaker 2: me about that. Y'all just need to sponsor me whatever,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they're not right, But like, also,
Speaker 1: what card is that in there?
Speaker 2: It's a it's a Mike Trout autograph card and it's
Speaker 2: a like a graded A nine point five, but it's
Speaker 2: a UFO card and it's a thirty three of fifty cards.
Speaker 2: There's a thirty third parallel tie in thing there that
Speaker 2: that I is pretty cool because LA's on the thirty
Speaker 2: third parallel. It's a thirty three of fifty. It's a
Speaker 2: UFO card. It's literally called UFO. That's the that's the
Speaker 2: type of card. It's a UFOs on it and all
Speaker 2: this other stuff, and it's signed by Mike Trout. So
Speaker 2: I like that card. And it's not going anywhere this women.
Speaker 2: But the cool part about that is it's floating. Like
Speaker 2: I said, it's got this magnetic this magnet that pushing
Speaker 2: this permanent magnet I'm sorry. This electromagnet is pushing up
Speaker 2: on a permanent magnet and it's helping it float in place.
Speaker 3: And you see it spinning right there.
Speaker 2: That's actually the fan turning it, blowing it around basically,
Speaker 2: and and so you see it's not falling over. That's
Speaker 2: how UFOs. That's how these plasmoids, these UFOs, that's how
Speaker 2: they travel because this complex plasmas need a sustained energy
Speaker 2: field to keep plasma coherent, and so they travel on
Speaker 2: lay lines, which are electric current lines. And so.
Speaker 3: There was a guy named Bruce Kathy.
Speaker 2: He was a New Zealand pilot who started studying UFOs
Speaker 2: because he saw a bunch of usos and UFOs and
Speaker 2: he basically determined that these things are rebuilding the energy
Speaker 2: grid somehow, these these UFOs or UAPs or whatever you
Speaker 2: won't call them. He studied this stuff for fifty years,
Speaker 2: did all kind of math behind it and all this stuff,
Speaker 2: and he discovered that there is definitely an energy grid
Speaker 2: and that these things use it to traverse Earth like
Speaker 2: a subway system. And he started seeing them off the
Speaker 2: coast of New Zealand as a pilot, and he started
Speaker 2: marking them on this chart and he saw that they
Speaker 2: were in a straight line, and he's like, well, that's weird.
Speaker 2: If they're in a straight line here, maybe they're in
Speaker 2: a straight line somewhere else. So he literally mapped out
Speaker 2: a grid over the entire world. He went to he
Speaker 2: traveled the world to find libraries talking about UFO events
Speaker 2: and all this other stuff, and determined he basically built
Speaker 2: a grid, and this grid helped him find things crazy
Speaker 2: things like this thing called the Elton and antenna.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever heard of that.
Speaker 1: I have not.
Speaker 2: And basically he was determined he could determine when they
Speaker 2: would perform the next nuclear tests and all this other stuff,
Speaker 2: when they would exactly drop the nuclear bomb at exact
Speaker 2: times and everything as tests, and he would and he
Speaker 2: used to bet the New Zealand Prime Minister when the
Speaker 2: US was going to do another nuclear test, and he
Speaker 2: got it down to the second of whenever. Because what
Speaker 2: he what he discovered was when the just like I
Speaker 2: was telling you about the Earth and the Sun, when
Speaker 2: the when the Sun would line up with the Earth,
Speaker 2: the harmonics of the Earth and the harmonics of the
Speaker 2: Sun at the right time, it would create like a
Speaker 2: powerful power line basically that would basically hammer the Earth,
Speaker 2: and he thinks that nuclear bombs would be dropped at
Speaker 2: that exact moment when they would line up to cause
Speaker 2: that big boom that they caused. And he, according to him,
Speaker 2: he was exactly right, that's what they were doing. So
Speaker 2: he's saying that bombs can't blow up unless they have
Speaker 2: the align the harmonic alignments of the Earth and the
Speaker 2: harmonic alignments of the Sun. And what that basically is
Speaker 2: is the frequency of the Earth and frequency.
Speaker 1: Of the Sun.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, so there's a whole lot to it, man,
Speaker 2: with all this the geomagnetic interactions and the you know,
Speaker 2: the solar the solar, geosolar interactions, whatever you want to
Speaker 2: call them.
Speaker 1: So I did want to ask you this though, because
Speaker 1: of what you just said now talking about the disclosures
Speaker 1: and how they're mostly propaganda and all these things. Not
Speaker 1: disagreeing with you at all, But when we're talking about
Speaker 1: some of these orbs, now, there is that very famous
Speaker 1: video of one of these orbs being struck with a
Speaker 1: hellfire missile. Right now, hell fires cannot lock onto plasmoids
Speaker 1: or light. They have to lock on to a hard,
Speaker 1: tangible something you can you can knock on tangible type
Speaker 1: of craft. They were able to strike this thing with
Speaker 1: a hellfire missile and three pieces broke off, but they
Speaker 1: all continued to go in the same direction. They were
Speaker 1: as if they weren't even phased. What is your take
Speaker 1: on that situation? What was that? Where it is it
Speaker 1: come from? Was it physical? Was it ethereal? What's your take?
Speaker 2: Well, they have to attach themselves to something physical, and
Speaker 2: that's where that's why they're called complex plasmas. They're called
Speaker 2: complex dusty plasmas because they have to attach themselves to
Speaker 2: dust particles. And these dust particles, interestingly enough, are all
Speaker 2: platonic solids they look like So these dust particles look
Speaker 2: like cubes. They look like tic tac shapes, they look
Speaker 2: like triangles. And what do UFOs look like when they
Speaker 2: look like triangles? They look like cubes. They look like
Speaker 2: tic TACs. So imagine a cube of silicon. I was
Speaker 2: saying silicon earlier, right, silicone for uh, that's what the
Speaker 2: space plasma was attaching itself to. But in Earth's atmosphere,
Speaker 2: they can attach itself to other forms of dust, right,
Speaker 2: like just dust flying around. You know how the light
Speaker 2: shines you can see like little dust particles flying around,
Speaker 2: so it attaches themselves. Now, imagine plasma building up on
Speaker 2: a on a square piece of dust. Eventually what you're
Speaker 2: gonna see is a cube in the middle and a
Speaker 2: light going around it. And this is what these orbs
Speaker 2: usually look like. They usually have a cube in the middle,
Speaker 2: or they have a they look like triangles or whatever
Speaker 2: the case is. They're always they're always lining up with
Speaker 2: platonic solids, which which again looked like platonic solids. So
Speaker 2: it's very interesting that maybe they were maybe they were
Speaker 2: putting off heat signatures or whatever. Maybe they were, you know,
Speaker 2: cutting off some of that dust because the dust forms
Speaker 2: these crystal lattices within, so there can be millions of
Speaker 2: pieces of dust in a complex plasma, or it could
Speaker 2: be millions of pieces of dust or could be one.
Speaker 2: So maybe they just cut off a piece of plasma
Speaker 2: and you know, that's what it was. It was going
Speaker 2: after That's what you're saying, right, it's like chasing after.
Speaker 1: These Well, basically a lot of pilots have seen these
Speaker 1: orbs and they can't explain the speeds that they're moving
Speaker 1: at or whatever else. But for a hell fire missile
Speaker 1: to lock onto one, and I mean, you know, not
Speaker 1: everybody has missiletism. I get it, and I don't particularly do.
Speaker 1: But we've done a deep dive into what hell fire
Speaker 1: missiles can and cannot lock on too. That couldn't have
Speaker 1: been like, you know, heat waves that somehow a hell
Speaker 1: fire missile locked onto. It couldn't have been you know,
Speaker 1: light refracted through swamp gas or nothing like that. It
Speaker 1: has to lock onto something solid, something hard. Because of
Speaker 1: the way that they guide themselves in it's basically off
Speaker 1: of radar. You can't get a radar like basically the
Speaker 1: same thing as like a cop shooting radar down the street.
Speaker 1: They can't point their radar gun at the wind and
Speaker 1: get a response from it, or even you know, a
Speaker 1: dust bowl or one of those what do you call them,
Speaker 1: dirt devils whatever they called. Basically those little small tornadoes
Speaker 1: that are rolling down the street, there's not enough matter
Speaker 1: for them to lock go on and get a radar
Speaker 1: signal back to the gun to give you a speed reading.
Speaker 1: So for a health fire missile lock onto this thing,
Speaker 1: it had to be something solid, It had to be
Speaker 1: something tangible. That goes against a lot of narratives that
Speaker 1: we've heard as far as these orbs being strictly light,
Speaker 1: strictly plasma, strictly ethereal whatever, you're saying that these ethereal
Speaker 1: and lightnings have to attach themselves to something physical in
Speaker 1: order to exist in our three dimensional reality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're and but they also give off signatures.
Speaker 2: Remember there, have you ever seen ball lightning?
Speaker 1: I have, But even the example that I saw people
Speaker 1: lose their minds about the thing in the parking lot
Speaker 1: at one time with that's clearly AI and that's clearly fake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thats fake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are examples of ball lightning. However, that is
Speaker 1: so rare, like it's it's it's about as rare as
Speaker 1: lightning during a snowstorm. Is it possible? Yes, if you
Speaker 1: see that one time in your life, you should consider
Speaker 1: yourself lucky. Kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Well, ball lightning is complex plasma that formed into a plasmoid,
Speaker 2: that formed into a plasma toroid that formed into an orb.
Speaker 2: So we're calling it ball lightning, but it's an orb.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing that we're talking about. And these
Speaker 2: things can move anomalously, so I mean, maybe it just
Speaker 2: gives off a signature that you know, these things can
Speaker 2: track or maybe it's the particles of dust that it's
Speaker 2: attached to. But these things are also trans medium, and
Speaker 2: how from what I understand about trans being the transmedium,
Speaker 2: So they can go through walls and stuff. Right, So
Speaker 2: if they go through this wall right here in my
Speaker 2: office and they're connected by these crystal lattices with these
Speaker 2: dust particles, that dust particle would fall off on this
Speaker 2: side and it would reconnect on the other side. Because
Speaker 2: because even if we think that this wall is painted
Speaker 2: that nothing can get through there, clearly something can get through.
Speaker 3: Sound can get through, right, things can get through.
Speaker 2: And so these things can microscopical, microscopically through these little
Speaker 2: pores in the pain or the wall or whatever, the
Speaker 2: sheet rock or whatever, and it can reassemble and reorganize
Speaker 2: itself on the other side. And so that's where the
Speaker 2: re that's where the that's where the trans medium things
Speaker 2: come from. I dude, I taught to this girl who
Speaker 2: grew up in the National Forest right beside my brother's house.
Speaker 3: She is famous.
Speaker 2: There's a triangle area there, you mentioned Brandon, there's a
Speaker 2: triangle area in this area too, and she was right
Speaker 2: to smack in the middle of it. And I asked
Speaker 2: her name is Charlene, and I asked her. I said,
Speaker 2: I said, hey, have you ever seen anything crazy with
Speaker 2: UFOs or lights or any monsters or anything like that?
Speaker 2: And she was like no, And we started we were
Speaker 2: talking just for a few minutes, size of your family
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 3: And then she said, you know what, there.
Speaker 2: Was this one time we did have this giant ball
Speaker 2: of light fly through our house and it just went
Speaker 2: through the walls and everything. And that's what that is.
Speaker 2: That's those plasmoid, that's those that ball lightning. It has
Speaker 2: the ability to go through things.
Speaker 3: It's trans medium.
Speaker 2: And this is where we get the idea for ghosts
Speaker 2: and all this other stuff from. Too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the theory of ghosties. However,
Speaker 1: I do give the nuances to this, like especially when
Speaker 1: you go to like battlegrounds or not just necessarily Gettysburg
Speaker 1: comes to mind, but like a spot on Earth where
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of people lost their lives within the
Speaker 1: course of a few hours. I think the Earth has
Speaker 1: a memory of things like that. It's like anomalous things
Speaker 1: happening in certain locations. I hear this, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: like say, oh, that's bullshit. No, there's probably a little
Speaker 1: something something going on there that we can't just naturally quantify.
Speaker 1: And I get that. But I hear what you're saying
Speaker 1: as far as these anomalies being misinterpreted to be ghosts
Speaker 1: or spirits or something like this that people are seeing
Speaker 1: in their houses that they can't they can't really justify
Speaker 1: or explain away, but it makes sense to call it
Speaker 1: a ghost or an apparition or whatever the case would be.
Speaker 1: I could see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is again, this is where we get
Speaker 2: the idea for swamp gas and all these other things from,
Speaker 2: because we're talking.
Speaker 3: About just gases that have formed into.
Speaker 2: Plaza that have come into our reality, and the only
Speaker 2: way for them to stay in our reality is is this.
Speaker 3: Is why it happens at night.
Speaker 2: For those who don't know, I've said it on my
Speaker 2: show a million times before, but it always happens in
Speaker 2: the twilight area of the day. It's in the morning,
Speaker 2: it's at night, okay, when the sun's going down and
Speaker 2: when the sun's coming up. And the reason why that
Speaker 2: is is because, like I said earlier, the I just
Speaker 2: had a guy that uh ten in my windows. I
Speaker 2: was asking to ask him if he had any experiences,
Speaker 2: and he said he had a ghost experience. And I
Speaker 2: asked him what, tyson, was it in twilight and he
Speaker 2: said he it was like seven thirty. It's like always then.
Speaker 2: And the reason why is because that's whenever that plasma
Speaker 2: is cooling and becoming complex plasma and then coming into
Speaker 2: our reality. And so you're going to see a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff then and at night, and then you'll see
Speaker 2: it all throughout the nighttime and then it goes away
Speaker 2: as the sun comes up because they're getting dispersed back
Speaker 2: into the ether or the plasma or whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call it. And so yeah, but I think again
Speaker 2: there's a lot of evidence that these things come and
Speaker 2: go at twilight. These this is this happens to be. Also,
Speaker 2: when you get the idea of rabbits, you know, rabbits
Speaker 2: are crepuscular. They eat at night.
Speaker 3: And in the morning.
Speaker 1: Puscular. Did you make that word up?
Speaker 3: No, I think that's a real word.
Speaker 1: It sounds good. It sounds like you like you know
Speaker 1: some up but like I've never actually heard that word
Speaker 1: be used.
Speaker 2: Whether they hang out in the liminal times of the day,
Speaker 2: this the morning, and then eat, this is when they
Speaker 2: eat and This is why you get the idea for
Speaker 2: going down the rabbit hole and all this other stuff.
Speaker 2: This is where this comes from, is because the rabbit
Speaker 2: holes started at night and in the morning. These are
Speaker 2: the times of the liminal times of day.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I kind of I feel like I've talked
Speaker 3: too much now.
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