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Speaker 4: I wish I could say that I was any better
than Brett. But the other day my fiance said, you
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like that exactly. Of course, yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 4: The other thing I'd say is, every every once in
a while when I'm called AP on this show, I
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an AP?
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Speaker 6: As Kalani stays staying humble, stay hungry, do you think
BAU football will stay humble, stay hungry or do you
think they're gonna buy into their seven to zero hype?
Speaker 1: Can they win on Jack Trice? At Jack Trice? Does
Ioways State lose thrice?
Speaker 6: Very rarely do they lose thrice in a season, especially
at Jack Trice Stadium.
Speaker 1: That is a big stadium.
Speaker 6: It holds sixty one five hundred fans, avid and rabid
cyclone fans. It's the third largest Big twelve stadium, Okay,
third largest Okay. So it gives ISU no doubt a
home field advantage. It's a one thirty kickoff, it's gonna
be on Fox.
Speaker 1: And this is a game that.
Speaker 6: You could you can conclude is the game that can
set Iowa State back on track for a for their
quest to make it to Arlington in a Big twelve championship.
Speaker 1: They kind of felt shortened.
Speaker 6: Last year, right, just like BYU did this multi way time.
They felt like they should have been there. Instead, they
ended up in the Pop Tarts Bowl, right, That's where
they ended up getting a nice dub. And you know,
they were a great football team last year. They were
a fantastic football team last year in my opinion, and
they kind of felt shorted, I think, And this is
the way, as they say in the Mandalorian, this is
the way to get back to Arlington. Will they be
able to do it? Can they do it? They can
do it, trust me. They have the ability, They've recruited well,
they have the culture, they have the tenacity, they have
the I think, the fortitude to get that win over
the Cougars.
Speaker 1: I just hope and remember.
Speaker 6: Like they beat Miami, guys, Miami, Miami. I'm going to
Miami the Hurricanes. They tamed the Hurricanes forty two to
forty one. Now, yeah, I know cam Wore did not
play in the second half, and they're gonna, you know,
chalk that up as like Hey, we gave that to you.
But still Miami was very talented last year and they're
very talented this year. So that's in This Iowa State
team is not that much different than they were last year.
Speaker 1: Now they have some injuries.
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Speaker 6: All right, I think most of us got to feel
like it's BYU's offense. If we're gonna take advantage of
an opportunity, it's gonna be the BYU offense versus the
Iowa State defense. Most feel that BYU's defense and its
special teams is the greater strength. The offense is still
good though. The weakness of Iowa State right now due
to injuries is actually on the defensive side as well
as special teams. So how can this offense take advantage
of the weaknesses some of the injuries, et cetera. John Heacock,
i Always State defensive coordinator, discussed this matchup earlier this week.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. How do you owe that.
Speaker 9: They've done a great job. I think the offensive lines
where it starts. That group is playing well together. They
do a great job up front, past protections, run blocking,
all the schematical stuff that everybody throws at them.
Speaker 10: That's where it starts to me.
Speaker 9: And then great skilled position players do the quarterbacks playing well?
You know, runs the football, it's eleven man football. You
know across the field and vertically and horizontally obviously you
know the wide outs and and tight end and tailbacks,
and you know they've got all the pieces.
Speaker 10: So they're playing really well. Got a lot of juice.
Speaker 9: They play with a lot of energy, and it's very
evident on videotape.
Speaker 6: A lot of juice. So a lot of energy. Guys,
Your thoughts, your commentary. As you listen to the opening
statement from John Heacock, Ioways State defensive coordinator.
Speaker 7: I'm curious how they see things because obviously, the way
we see it is this is Iowa State defense that's decimated.
This is an Iowa State defense that in the first
half of the Colorada in the first half of the
Cincinnati game, their linebackers have really not flowed well defending
their run game. And we are living in a twenty
twenty five where BYU not only wants to run the football,
they want to hold their hat on how they run
the football. And so, look, I'm sure sitting during the
bye week, they understood and they saw everything that we've seen.
But it sounds as though, like when you're talking about
a team that brings the juice, you have to be
one to bring the juice as well.
Speaker 1: And frankly, I mean all pun intended.
Speaker 7: Big Citrus, our buddy Dominique Orange is likely not going
to play, and he's their best run stopper. If he
doesn't play and the linebackers can't flow to the run,
this Iowa State defense could be in trouble. However, you
can pull up every stat you want. You can pull
up every number, metric, whatever you want. This is still
a Matt Campbell.
Speaker 1: Coach football team. This is still a good football team
with a good culture.
Speaker 7: So whatever they do or don't bring, they will be
ready to play under a Matt Campbell culture.
Speaker 1: And that's not gonna make this an easy thing for BOYU.
Speaker 4: AP Yeah, I agree with everything he said. The only
thing I'm really curious about with this Highway State defense
is if coming off a bye, if they've changed their
scheme up just a little bit to confuse b YU,
to maybe compensate for some of the injuries to the
secondary or to the to their their star players. I
wonder if they're gonna come out the first couple drives
and something different, try to throw off a young like
a freshman, and maybe give themselves a jolt and a
fast start. Because BYU this is an underrated stat of
the day. BYU has yet to score a touchdown on
any half opening.
Speaker 1: Drive this year. They've got a couple of field goals
they get.
Speaker 4: They had a field goal to open the half against
Portland State and a field goal to open the half
against East Carolina. I think those are the only half
opening scores for BYU this year.
Speaker 1: Well, I do believe. Yeah, key stat here is a
great rebel. Put it out.
Speaker 6: Actually, whoever scores first, right is going to win this game. Yeah,
that's it's a crazy stat. Like Matt Campbell is I
think undefeated this season when they score first, and as
well as Kalonie Satake and his Kougs when they score
for so that very well could be the difference. Another
element here Aowa States missing their best defensive lineman, the
six foot fourth three into twenty five twenty five pounds
senior Kansas at a Kansas City, Missouri dominique Orange. They
call him Big Citrus and he's a big man. PFF
grated him at like a sixty two with just a
great run defense, run defensive great, but he's the best
defensive stopper that they have on that internal defensive line,
and so they have a tall task. They may just
be shooting at the legs of these offensive linemen of
BYU and just trying to create piles forcing LJ to
bounce it out off of tackle. But it's uh, it's
a big storyline heading into this game. Now let's get
to number two. John Heacock, I always stay defense coordinator.
What did you want your defense to focus on this
bye week and how did they handle it.
Speaker 9: I think, you know, you know, just recognizing I mean,
some of the errors that we're making, you know, some
communication things and got a lot a lot of a
lot a couple of plays get away from us, which
was you know obviously just kind of you know, on
on us. And then when you play good teams, they
can expose you. So, you know, I think just trying
to gear down a little bit, maybe what we're doing,
the communication process, how we're doing it, you know, and
then better ways to do it. I think that's first
and foremost going into this week. It's going to be
a physical football game. We're going to have to play,
you know, physical upfront. We're gona to play physical on
the perimeter. They block you the white outs or tremendous
blockers the tight end, so they make you play and
that's why they're having great success and we're and a
half to match all of that.
Speaker 6: So key component in this game is the fact that
Iowa States defense has had two weeks to prepare. That's
plenty of time for a high level set of coaches
to get some high level players to buy in and execute.
So I'd imagine that their defensive scheme is going to
be a little bit tighter, a little bit more assignment sound,
and they're gonna be a better football team than they
were the two prior weeks prior to this.
Speaker 1: BYU game, they lost to Cincinnati.
Speaker 6: Yes, one score, they lost to Colorado one score, And
I know the Cincinnati game was not as close as
it appeared on the scoreboard, but still, this is going
to be an improved team. And they're at home with
the twelfth Man, sixty two thousand strong behind them. That
is a point of concern, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, I mean,
the big.
Speaker 7: Issue for since for Iowa State has not necessarily been
that they're a bad football team or that they don't
have talented players. The issue has been what coach Heacock
just outlined, which is communication. If you go watch the
Colorado game, you'll see a play where I think it's
Omarian will just run. He's on the top side of
your screen. He just runs a go ball and the
corner sitting in front of him just lets him go.
And he clearly thought he had safety help or he
didn't see him. Either way that there was nobody within
twenty yards of Amarion Miller and he goes for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: And that wasn't just a one time issue.
Speaker 7: That was really emblematic of everything that happened to this
Iowa State defense in those two games. Was again, they're
not a bad football team. It's not that they were
in position and they just couldn't make the plays because
they can't tackle, they can't cover. They just didn't know
where to be, which is a whole other issue completely,
and frankly an issue that is very fixable, especially when
you have a bye week. The other thing that you'll
notice if you go and watch some of these big
plays from the Cincinnati and the Colorado game is that
motions confused a lot of these younger dbs. And so
we know that something BYU will employ a lot of sweeps,
a lot of jet motions, a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 1: What we will.
Speaker 7: Probably know pretty early how this game is going to
go simply because if we see Iowa State handle their
assignments well early and they handle the motions well early,
then we will know that Iowa State's defense is here
to play. If they don't handle that early, they could
be in a tough position.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the problem for Iowa State that I'm gonna I
think we're gonna see is BYU can run the ball
both up the middle and off to the to the edges,
and with a decimated defense, with injuries on the defensive
line and at the corner, the Uyu's block. If I
say I woad State starts winning some some of the
assignments inside, I guarantee you they're outside is not because
those are definitely those are backup corners playing really really
good blocking wide receivers. That's an underrated part of this team.
Chase Roberts, Parker Kingston, and Cody Hagen have done really
well on their blocks on the outside.
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be really tough for them to b way.
Speaker 4: You can really kind of choose to say, hey, if
they're winning here, we're gonna go here. If they're winning here,
we're gonna go there. It's it's gonna be really tough
for them to stop the run.
Speaker 6: Getting back to John Heacocky who stay defensive coordinator, seems
like every week you're preparing for a quarterback who who's
a threat to run. How much does that change week
to week preparing for different styles of runners?
Speaker 9: Yeah, good, great question, great point. Actually, they all are
different in their own ways. You know, some quarterbacks, you know,
they run the football period. You know, they're running plays.
Some guys are you know, the the option games part
of it. And then there's some guys that are you know,
they scramble to run, and some guys you know, scramble
to throw. And so all of those different things happened
during the year. We've played a little bit of everything
at this point. You know, the tough ones are like
this week, where they can run it and throw it,
and you know they're throwing strikes down the field, and
because they run it so well, obviously you have to
get extra hats in the game. And then you know,
the play action passes become you know where everybody where
they try to strike you. So we're gonna have to
be really good. We've played all of those. They all
present different problems. They all have different, you know, styles
to their game, and this week will be a little
bit different than probably anybody else we've played so far.
Speaker 6: Bear Bachmeyer, how would you describe him as a runner
if you're evaluating him all the all twenty two Brett, You.
Speaker 7: Know, this is such a great question because bear Bachmeyer
is not the same as Josh Hoover, and he's not
the same as No Fa Fida, and he's not the
same as Kaiden Salter.
Speaker 1: But guess what, all of those guys are mobile quarterbacks.
Speaker 7: And it's honestly, I love the report who asked this question,
and I think that's why John Heacock was like, Hey,
that is a really good question, because we used to
live in a world in football Bend where you were
either you were one of two things. You were either
a pocket passer or you were a duel threat. And
dual threat was really just the word we used for
anybody who was athletic and playing the quarterback position. And
so because there wasn't a whole lot of nuance, because
there wasn't a whole lot of guys doing it, we
just narrowed it down to those two things. And yes
there were pocket passers who were mobile, but basically, if
you were a pocket passer, you weren't moving all that much.
Speaker 1: And now it's so fun to look at the Big
twelve and again.
Speaker 7: The guys that brought up the Josh Hoover's of the world,
the No Fa Fidas of the world, the Rocko Beck's
of the world, all of these guys are finding ways
to get in the end zone and to get to
the first down with their legs. Now, what bear Bachmeyer
does is again different than Kiden Salter or Josh Hoover
any of these other guys.
Speaker 1: Because I don't know that Bear Bear.
Speaker 7: It almost feels like, well not almost feels like Bear
is a running back who can also throw the ball.
And I know that when that was said to Labar
Jackson it was a sign of disrespect. I mean no
disrespect when I say that, I just mean when Bear
Bachmeyer is not like, he's not a Michael Vick where
he's gonna dance around and kind of wow you.
Speaker 1: From how he jukes guys out in the pocket, he's either.
Speaker 7: Going to take the football and throw it. There was
a stat thrown out on Inside the Big Twelve today
that he gets rid of the football in like two
point four seconds. It's one of the best in the conference.
And so what he does is if he decides he's
not getting rid of the football, then he just again
tucks it like.
Speaker 1: A running back and he gets straight up and down.
Speaker 7: And so from that standpoint, bear Bachmeyer is incredible in
the run game and in the past game, but you
just never really know what you're asking for because it's
almost a run play with a pass.
Speaker 1: Baked into it at the very beginning.
Speaker 7: Bear Bachmeyer has been awesome and there's gonna be quite
a handful for Iowas State.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do think it's a really good point. Aaron
Roderick can call not only multiple plays into the huddle
right for bear Bachmeyer to execute verbalize. He's got a
photographic memory.
Speaker 6: He's not you know, when he hears it, he remembers
it obviously, and then he's able to apply it. It's
not as easy as you think it is, and so
you do need to highlight that. But furthermore, there's nuance
even within the play. Right, you can have a run
option run, you know, run pass option, and he's gonna
make the right choice within the play.
Speaker 1: So you have multiple plays that you can call obviously.
Speaker 6: That you send in, but then you can choose the
right play for the right situation and then make the
correct decision within that play.
Speaker 1: That's what bear. That's why a rod is called Bear. Brilliant,
right brilliant.
Speaker 6: I say a couple last things from John Heacock. I
always stay defensive coordinator before we go to break. Was
the focus a little bit different this buy we compared
the last one and what is that focus this week?
Speaker 9: Well, you know, I think, you know, I think the
reality of you know, trying to get some younger guys
more reps because of the loss of some guys you know,
when you're when you're banged up and you're you're trying
to find depth at special teams, You're trying to find
depth at positions across the board. Because now you're into
week seven versus you know, week four, and I think
the real emphasis became, you know, who can help us?
How do we get them enough reps without wearing them
out and get them prepared to play in the stretch
that we're getting ready to get into.
Speaker 6: They go, that's John Heacock. We'll take a brief time out.
We'll be backed.
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five and two right now coming off a bye week. Uh,
let's discuss it here real quick. What makes you optimistic
that b way he gets the win? Why can't i
Away State stop this? And what makes you pessimistic? Gentlemen
Brett always bringing the hammer optimism pessimism where you at look.
Speaker 7: I think the injuries and the way that Ioway State
plays defense is what makes me feel optimistic, especially with
our boy Big Citrus being out if and I can't
remember if we heard John Heacock say it already or
if it was what I was listening to earlier, but
he said they're going to be having to do a
lot of just base stuff because they have so many
guys down.
Speaker 1: And that makes me think if they stay in a
three three five most.
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bring guys down and send heavy pressures because they just
have to stay what they're in, that makes me feel
really good.
Speaker 1: Now. What makes me feel pessimistic is all of the.
Speaker 7: Numbers, like the fact that I always say has never
lost to BYU, like the fact that if Iowa State
were to lose, it would be three straight, which I
just don't see happening. And They've only lost one home
game since the start of last year. Their last two
losses both came on the road. All of those numbers,
and then the fact that every time I listen to
Matt Campbell Man, it just makes me want to play
for that guy. It makes me love that guy. There's
there's there's a few things that just make you feel pessimistic.
But if you take this game in a vacuum, you
take all those stats out of it, I feel pretty
confident that i a Would State can't.
Speaker 1: Stop this ap optimism, pessimism, optimism.
Speaker 4: I think b Yu, I think I think Klani's got
I think Kolani got to his guy's post game against you.
Speaker 1: I think he said, hey, we got to focus. Do
you remember? Do you remember what happened last time? I
think you do you remember?
Speaker 4: And I I think he reminded those captains on the
team the pain of Arizona State and Kansas and just
missing out on a Big twelve championship and a potentially
a college football playoff. But I'm also optimistic again because look,
Iowa State, they've had two weeks. They can fix their scheme,
but if they just don't have the guys to execute
the scheme very well due to injury.
Speaker 1: I think by you can take advantage of that.
Speaker 4: It might take a little bit of adjusting, but once
they adjust, I think BYU's offense should be able to
score some points on this Ioway State defense. The pessimism
and I've said this all week, BA use a different
team on the road. We squeaked by wins, but they've
been much less comfortable than the wins at home. Like
even though we only won by three against Utah, BYU
was up ten with four minutes. We had control, and
at no point did I really feel like Utah was
gonna come back and win. Maybe for a second before
I saw that Utah was the one that kicked the
ball forward on that on side kick, But in all reality,
BYU on the road has been a much different team,
and I'm just waiting for them to show up and
play a full game on the road like they have
at Lavelle Edwards Stadium. And so that's the only thing
that really gives me pause. I think BYU has the
better special teams. I think they have the better defense,
and I think they have a comparable offense to Iowa State.
So I think in at least two of the three areas,
BYU has a clear advantage, and that is what makes
me optimistic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love all of the optimism.
Speaker 6: I'll go to the pessimistic side here because I think
there was a There's a whole lot of optimism come
from you guys, Like when you're up against the ropes
and you're a well coached, physical, like good cultured team
like this, there is a sense of urgency over a
short period of time coming off of two losses. Right,
it is bitter, it is nasty. They did improve from
Cincinnati to Colorado?
Speaker 1: Did they not? They did? They did improve Cincanati Colorado.
Speaker 6: You hope that they just don't have the punching power
in this game to match up with BYU. Right, Do
they have the talent the productivity to stick with the Cougars.
Speaker 1: I think they do.
Speaker 6: Offensively, I really do. I think they can match tit
for tat with BYU.
Speaker 1: Offense. Is the defense up to the task for BYU?
We talk about how like Iowa States not healthy defensively,
is BYU super healthy defensively? Is Jack Kelly the same
Jack Kelly prior to his injury. I don't think so.
I don't think Isaiah Glasterer is the same Isaiah Glasker
prior to his injurgy. I don't think he's played as well.
I think he's been a bit of a shadow of himself.
Like I don't think that.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, Utah did a really good job of
running the freaking football, like two and fifty yards of rushing.
Speaker 1: Power and out gaining us. It's not like we just
shut him down.
Speaker 6: The reason why we won, Guys to an agree, is
because we stopped him on fourth down in the red
zone and they decided not to kick field goals, right,
So like there is a playbook, Well, they don't really
have a field goal kick that is the one.
Speaker 1: There's a guy coming back that he's gonna coming back,
so like he's.
Speaker 6: Had a hip flexer injury, I think Matt Campbell will
trust his returning kicker more than Kyle winning Ember trusted
his true freshman kicker.
Speaker 1: I think I think he will.
Speaker 6: I think he's if it's a thirty yarder, thirty five
yard or forty yarder, he's probably kicking it. He's gonna
kick the field goal. So like can Iowa State move
the ball versus the defense? Yes, will be why you
put him in fourth and medium fourth and short situations,
and and and test their will, their analytical approach in
this game, no doubt. Remember, it's different when you're an
offense playing on the road and an offense playing at home.
That's quiet, that's pristine, that's an advantage if you do
want to go forward on fourth. In short, you'd rather
do it at home sometimes rather than on the road
because of the lack of communication, right, because of that,
So like, I'm not sitting here fearful that BA is
gonna lose this game.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a closer.
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be a single score game, like
the last few games in the Big Twelve, like many
of the BYU games in the Big Twelve over the
last few years. Okay, that includes the two thousand and
twenty three season. I'm just saying it's there's a lot
riding on this game for this team at home in
front of their sixty two thousand fans, and they've had
two weeks to prepare for BYU. Okay, they do and
will have something up their sleeve. They will and have
prepared so thing to offset what they deem as weaknesses
in their personnel. Doe to injuries. Okay, and you have
to be a Simon sound. You can't believe your own hype.
And I hope that stay humble, stay hungry mantra. It
will be alive and well at Jack Trice Stadium. So
those are my thoughts on it. Let's get back to
the sound though. Okay, how important Number five? This is
John Heacock, I always stay defensive coordinator. How important was
the bye week? Bye week for some of the new
starters in your secondary?
Speaker 10: Really important?
Speaker 9: You know, they got thrown in there pretty quickly, and
how it all happened, So they got thrown in pretty fast.
They've done a great job. They continue to grow, and
you know, again trying to get the guys behind them
to give them a break a little bit. You know,
they went from playing you know, if they're seventy plays
in a game they were playing twenty five. You know,
the other guys were playing fifty to sixty and now
all of a sudden, they're playing fifty to sixty and
we've got to find guys that can give them a break.
And really a couple of those I mean they were
playing close to seventy snaps in that game. So I've
got to find some depth form along the way here, So.
Speaker 6: Two weeks to get their secondary replacements up to speed
and a little bit more refined in their technique better.
Speaker 1: And that's the problem with the youth in the secondary.
Speaker 6: They need more reps, they need more practice, they need
more coaching, and it's hard to do that sometimes in
through fall camp they don't get as many reps.
Speaker 1: The last two weeks, I believe there's probably gonna be.
Speaker 6: Better execution from that back end, that third level of
the Iowa State defense.
Speaker 1: Now, what is the identity of this defense? John Heacock
number six.
Speaker 9: I think it's really when I say that a little bit,
it's like what can we do? Like what pieces do
we have? What sub packages can we get into? You know,
we're we're at thin in the back end right now.
So your your sub packages of the dime and the
nickel stuff that we're able to do early on, you know,
some of that's limited. So you're you're trying to figure
out who who you can sub in some pieces and
all that kind of thing. You know, we're probably more
of our base defense right now than we've been all
season and getting back to doing some of the things
that we've done, you know.
Speaker 10: For years here. I think that's going to be the key.
Speaker 9: And again you're you're you're taking some guys out there
that that haven't had lots of experience, so you're gonna
have they've got to kind of learn fast on a run.
And again we've got to help them as coaches, my
calling of defenses, and and they're playing as well. So
you know, we'll see who we are here down the
stretch officially. But I think is what it has done
when I talk about that is you know, what package
can you be in? How how can you marry up
to you know, the teams that are playing with three
or four wide outs. You know, we got into that
a little bit of Colorado, like, you know, to the
sub packages that you can use, and who are the
pass rushers you can get on, and just finding depth
and numbers.
Speaker 10: And that's what we're still sorting through.
Speaker 1: Would you say that he's omitting a whole lot of confidence.
I don't think so.
Speaker 7: I guess it's not weird, but it just feels odd
from a BYU perspective to hear hedging a little bit yeah,
to be like, hey, we can't really do this. We're
pretty sure in this end, like we can't really do
a whole lot of diamond nickel because we're down or
we're in I don't know. That feels really weird to
hear him say like, yeah, we're gonna be doing a
lot of base stuff, whereas closed door bases we've ever
been all season.
Speaker 1: And again, that's another thing that just makes me feel
like this.
Speaker 7: Could be a big day for Bear Bachmeier because one
of the only things that's truly given him trouble this season.
I guess the first one would be like if you
have an elite pass rush like Utah did, but outside
of Utah, none of the team's BYU has played yet
have had a pass rush at that level. The other
team that gave bear Bachmeyer issues was Arizona because what
Arizona did was they were really good at showing you
something and switching to something else, and so Bear was
forced to read a defense post snap.
Speaker 1: I don't think Iowa State's gonna be able to do that.
Speaker 7: And furthermore, especially if they're in a three, three five,
I don't know that they're gonna be able to get
to bear Backmeyer that fast.
Speaker 1: And if they can't get to him that fast, you
can speak to this.
Speaker 7: As a former dB, like how long are those guys
gonna be out there on islands because they only have
three guys who are trying to get to a quarterback.
And again, go watch Cincinnati and Colorado when Caden Salter
and Brenton Soorsby had time, even when they dropped.
Speaker 1: Eight, they still found seams in this zone defense.
Speaker 7: And I worry that some of these guys in this
Iowa State secondary, if that pass rush can't get home.
Speaker 1: I think Bear may be able to figure some things out.
Speaker 6: It'll be interesting to see if Bear's internal clock puts
him into a rush day because you're back there and
it's like one one thousand, two, one thousand, one thousand,
four to one thousand. He took a lot of shots
in a lot of hits versus Utah. Sometimes that internal
clock's like, okay, I better move, I better run. He
may tuck and run, he may extend and keep eyes downfield.
You hope he doesn't force anything downfield that he doesn't
need to force downfield.
Speaker 1: So this is a new test for Bear.
Speaker 6: I think if they are going to drop a whole
lot of eight and and force Bear to make a
decision whether or not he wants to throw, or if
he's gonna extend and then run, tuck and run, which
could expose him to more hits. Sure, when you're in
a three three five, if you're dropping eight those second
level defenders. Let's say you have five second level defenders
and you're doing like a three D five under type
of coverage, you have three guys. Sometimes if you extend
the play or even go up the middle tuck and run,
you have three guys kind of converging you at all
angles and you get some awkward, violent hits. Knock on
woodle he he you may need to slide here, bear,
you've never had to slide before. He doesn't know what
that means, That's what I'm saying. But like you may
need to make a business decision here when you do talk.
And he's pretty agile, and he's pretty good about you know,
just kind of avert diverting like these blows, these direct
blows to his body through the like invasive quick maneuvers
as as they as as foes converge on his on
his perimeter right, but he may have to make a
business decision and just and just like slide at five
yards before they hit him. It may be a wise
decision just to limit some of the weard'sear. A couple
last things, What are the keys to success defensively versus
b yu John Heacock, I think.
Speaker 9: This week stopping the right, I mean, we're gonna have
to defend the run game. I mean, they're a physical
football team. I mean they fall forward for four yards.
I mean, and it's it's on every videotape, like and
they're running the ball downhill and whether it's the quarterback
and then they put the ball in the premer.
Speaker 10: They got great skill.
Speaker 9: Guys that run the jet sweeps and they they you know,
another form of their run plays or just the quick
screens to out in the flat to space and they
got white out to the block and it just kind
of it's all married together and they've been in great rhythm.
And we've got to be able to hold up physically
and and force the ball to where we can get
it to where we know what's going on. And nobody's
really been able to.
Speaker 10: Do that yet.
Speaker 1: He doesn't. He doesn't exude a whole lot of confidence
right now. Maybe that's just his personality. That's the game plan,
right just rope a dope Are they gonna rope a
dopus and Ames? Are they gonna rope it opus? And
Jack Trice?
Speaker 7: I just dumb, like I think he knows what he's
say guy. So that's why I'm a little confused. I'm like,
I feel like you're telling me exactly what I want
to hear. And because of that, some some alarm somewhere
in my brain's going off, saying, am I getting everything
that I think that I should be?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like I'm gonna get Ropidope? Here did
you feel like your defense and it's just something I thought.
I thought Cincinnati. From Cincinnati Colorado they improved. Actually, do
you feel like your defense improved from Cincinnati to Colorado?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 9: I do, there was, there was definite improvement. You know,
we let a couple of plays get out, you know,
get away from us. You know, it was just kind
of frustrating. It's not even discip just frustrating for everyone.
You know, we gave them a couple of free plays
and they don't need any help. You know, we're playing
big twelve teams that don't need any help. And I think,
you know, I was, I was proud of the way
they played in the game to be honest with you.
I think there were some times we went out there
in some situations that like, man, they didn't look it
didn't look real good. And our guys rallied up. So
I think our locker room is in great shape. You know,
we've got to play better football, got to coach better football.
I think our guys are excited about it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: You know, I don't ever, I don't ever sense this
group never fighting like this. This group is has incredible
resolve and they'll show up and play.
Speaker 6: There you go, that is the defensive coordinator. And I
think I answered my own question. They're ap by the
way that I texted you, but that's your defensive coordinator
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Speaker 1: Joe Tipton just put this out.
Speaker 6: G League center Abdullah Ahmed has cut his list to
two schools. Yeah, G League. He's been playing in the
G League for the last few years. Houston and BYU
are the two schools.
Speaker 1: All I can tell you is he's a Cougar six'
ten big.
Speaker 6: Man he's scheduled official visits to each of his finalists
and plans to announce his commitment On november. Tenth, NOW
i sent a sound Bite Tia martin on THE dms
on the Down low AT espn The fan AND i
want to play this because there's two trains of thoughts.
Here Coach painter From, perdue who's been a great, coach,
Right like you could tell he was a little bit
taken back by the idea of bringing IN G league.
Players Kevin young is taking a different, approach and Obviously
houston's taking a Different Kevin Kevin sampson was a little
bit surprised by, too and that he found out that
he was His his recruiting staff.
Speaker 1: Was recruiting, like, oh you know WHAT i, Mean like
he's kind a. Surprise but, anyway let's listen. In let
me know when you gotta cute, Up. Martin, uh.
Speaker 6: Let me know when you got a cute up in THE.
DMS i said it to, you and we'll play it
for all Of. Kugarnation this Is Kevin young discussing RECRUITING
G league centers.
Speaker 11: Because it's the exact same thing as The european. PLAYERS
i don't think, that, like it's literally the exact same. THING. Yea, Like, now,
look if you're AN nba guy that's on AN nba,
CONTRACT i, mean THE G league is no different than The.
EuroLeague it's not The NBA's, right it's just. Not, now
if you're on a two way contract and you're AN nba,
contract you're AN nba. Player if you're, not what's the
difference of a guy coming from all These european.
Speaker 1: Clubs so it's the same.
Speaker 10: Thing So i'm.
Speaker 1: A lot of things that make sense don't actually happen for.
Speaker 10: Me this actually does make.
Speaker 11: Sense now if you want to strip away both sets of, it, okay,
great but that's kind of HOW i see. It, yeah
that makes tons of sense to me because it's the
exact same thing as The european player.
Speaker 6: Clip that all, right until they do away with the
overseas your old league players that we're nineteen twenty playing
overseas a few seasons and then coming to the end
or coming to the college basketball. World if you want
to do away with, that then, OKAY g. League this
is new, though we've never SEEN g, Leaguers but when
did how did this come? About like maybe it was
just an. Epiphany it's, like, well THESE g leaguers are
very much akin to the international players that are coming
over and playing and taking advantage of THE. Nio the
only thing that's shange is the amount of money that
the universities are willing to, pay and therefore it makes
it a competitive environment THAT G league, INSTITUTIONS nba organizations
are competing for payroll players and they're, like, okay, yeah
you want to go there, Now, okay well you're gonna
get paid. More, okay, great, awesome grand. Wonderful also overseas
for These american born. Players AND i Know abdullah is.
Speaker 1: Not he's From.
Speaker 6: Egypt he's twenty one years of age and played in
fifteen games last, season by the, way four, points five
point five, rebounds eighteen point three minutes per. Contest the season,
prior he averaged five point eight points and six point nine.
Rebounds and he's still awaiting word on HIS ncaa, eligibility.
Speaker 1: But chances look.
Speaker 6: Good after two FORMER G league Players Thierry darlin committed
To Santa clara And London johnson To. Louisville they were
recently cleared to. Play he's expected to have at least
two years of eligibility to. Play BUT i understand where
Ky why is coming. From he's gonna try to win
basketball games with the talent that is in in front
of him that he can, recruit And Justin, young his recruiting,
coordinator is, like, well this is perfectly kosher within the.
Rules why not recruit? Them why not bring them TO?
B why You houston AND B why you fighting for
a big?
Speaker 1: Man Holy? Canoli crazy? Times will this be the one
win we get Over houston this?
Speaker 7: YEAR i didn't mean to go, There but To Kevin young's, point,
like you can't, say, oh, well we're cool with kids
From europe coming to play, here because we're not face
to face with. That we don't really see Euro league,
basketball so, therefore in our, minds it's not a real,
institution but THE NBA G. League that is where we
drive the ryan, seriously because let me tell you, This,
look if somebody from THE G league comes to college
and ends up averaging forty points a game and they're
A Nate Smith player of The, year Then i'll come
to you and, Say, okay you got a.
Speaker 1: RINGER i have a problem with. This until that, HAPPENS
i don't have a.
Speaker 7: Problem, HOWEVER i do have a little bit of insight
into how the eligibility and how THE ncaa sees.
Speaker 1: This and So Joe tipton put out an article just along.
Speaker 7: These, lines and this is what he had to say
regarding how THE ncaa determines eligibility and how they see.
This MOST G league players outside of The ignite program
are not earning big, money averaging forty thousand dollars a.
Year THE ncaa considers that low of a salary as
covering quote actual and necessary expenses like living, costs, travel, housing.
Etc i'd agree with that players who were making the
necessary expenses have to pay back the. Difference with that,
logic THE ncaa determined THAT G league players aren't truly
professionals in the way the old world defined. It under
the new, APPROACH G league players could be deemed eligible
for college basketball if they're still within five years of
their high school. Graduation the main factor that jeopardizes eligibility
is if they've gone through THE nba draft process or
previously signed AN nba, contract which is Something Kevin young
also talked. About he's talking About he, said you, know
we're not talking about guys who have a two, way
who are Like Ronnie, james or they're playing with The
lake and with THE G league. Team so it's a
little bit, different but that is how THE ncaa sees.
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