Speaker 1: Welcome, dear listener, and thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen and this is a podcast all about
Speaker 2: the weird and wonderful world of the dark comedy anthology
Speaker 2: series Inside number nine.
Speaker 1: On each episode, we'll be diving into another one of
Speaker 1: Steve Pemberton and Reese Sheresmith's twisted tales, putting it under
Speaker 1: a lens and examining it within an inch of its life.
Speaker 3: So make yourself comfortable, grab a cup of tea and
Speaker 3: join us for the ninth degree christ I learned. I
Speaker 3: googled well done, don't if it's right.
Speaker 1: Hello.
Speaker 3: We've pissed off Italians and Germans and we'll go for
Speaker 3: the Welsh this week.
Speaker 1: Yes, and Irish as well. When we did hurry up
Speaker 1: and wait, I think, oh yeah, we're ticking them all off.
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm all right. How are you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Not bad? Thank you. I got a new VR
Speaker 3: headset this weekend, so I've been playing with that oh
Speaker 3: wow on Russian space station, solving puzzles.
Speaker 1: So that's been fun, fabulous. That does sound fun, just.
Speaker 3: Trying to get over the sea sickness sort of effect
Speaker 3: you get.
Speaker 1: With it, yeah, I bet yeah, But.
Speaker 3: Otherwise it's all good. Cool, It's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: What I look like from people walking by on the street.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, it's always intrigued me. Yeah, what it
Speaker 1: must be like because presumably you don't have to like
Speaker 1: walk about.
Speaker 3: No, my room isn't big enough for that exactly.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I don't know how that does. How
Speaker 1: do you like move about.
Speaker 3: Just like you would in any game with the joysticks? Oh?
Speaker 1: Fair enough?
Speaker 3: And that then makes you feel ill because you're not Yeah,
Speaker 3: that must be weird moving. Yeah, yeah, that's the bit
Speaker 3: that throws you. Okay, I've had I've played too, I've
Speaker 3: had an Escape room one, but you you sort of
Speaker 3: teleport around to like predetermined spots, like it gives you
Speaker 3: all the points that you can move to in the room.
Speaker 1: Oh I see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you don't have that sickness thing, which was
Speaker 3: a good way to start with it. Yeah, apparently you
Speaker 3: get sort of used to it and it doesn't bother you.
Speaker 3: We'll see you've been up to anything exciting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to an LGBT comedy night last night.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you said, how was it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It was good. It was four comedians of different
Speaker 1: flavors of queer and yeah, it was very good.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 1: Look at me going out in the middle of a
Speaker 1: week school, I know, look at me going out full stop.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you had a good time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was good.
Speaker 3: Did your friend that was performing and enjoy themselves? Did
Speaker 3: they have a good time?
Speaker 1: I think they did. They certainly did very well and
Speaker 1: made me laugh a lot.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 1: So all good, nice, and we're back with some more
Speaker 1: inside number nine.
Speaker 3: We are. We're on series seven, episode two. Mister King
Speaker 3: quite a famous one, I.
Speaker 1: Feel, yes, But before we get into that, I think
Speaker 1: we should reveal our hair from last week.
Speaker 3: Indeed, it was hurry up and wait. They're just so
Speaker 3: down and slow, and you're just peddling and pedaling, pedaling
Speaker 3: like I just wanted to hurry up and waiting for
Speaker 3: someone to like see things about this week's.
Speaker 1: Yes, is it too much of Pete behind the curtain
Speaker 1: to say that we've made a made up a list
Speaker 1: of ones that are left and trying to work out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's starting to get a bit challenging.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Who thought it was a good idea to leave the
Speaker 3: awkward ones to the end?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Look forward to seeing how we do some of them. Yes,
Speaker 3: I'm excited by the options that we've got.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so, yeah, I hope it's a fun game
Speaker 1: that people are enjoying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's know how how you find them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yes, mister King, let's have the synopsis.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So Alan arrives at a small village primary school
Speaker 3: in rural Wales. Passionate about teaching, he throws himself into
Speaker 3: the new job, but finds himself overshadowed by his charismatic
Speaker 3: and much love predecessor. Mister King.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, it's a good one.
Speaker 3: I I really enjoyed it, Yeah, because what I remember
Speaker 3: enjoying and hoped it would be as good as I
Speaker 3: remembered it being.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It feels like obviously, you know, as the series
Speaker 1: has gone on, you know, we're up to series seven now,
Speaker 1: they've done a lot of different things. They've pushed it
Speaker 1: in lots of different directions, and in a way, this
Speaker 1: one feels a little bit like a return to the
Speaker 1: classic kind.
Speaker 3: Of mean yeah, the sort of folky horror thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That, plus there's lots of sort of potential ways
Speaker 1: it could be going. Yeah, and then you kind of
Speaker 1: the way the twist goes in the end, it's just Yeah,
Speaker 1: typical recent Steve I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they said that they were worried about how because
Speaker 3: they thought, how obvious it looks like, clearly it's Wickerman.
Speaker 3: Obviously it's wicker Man. Who's going to think he's anything
Speaker 3: other than Wickerman? And they were so scared about putting
Speaker 3: on all of the little nods that they normally would do. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there are some still in there, but there was a
Speaker 3: few that they said they cut out because they were
Speaker 3: just worried that it was making it too obvious and like,
Speaker 3: once you've guessed, it might be that every one of
Speaker 3: those is just yet another red that confirms what you're thinking. Yes,
Speaker 3: I like they were worried that they'd said. One of
Speaker 3: the few promo pictures they put out was just recent
Speaker 3: Steve in costume in the classroom for this episode. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and someone had spotted in the background that you can
Speaker 3: see one of the kid's paintings with like a skull
Speaker 3: in a field or whatever it was, and they were like, oh,
Speaker 3: they're going to get it from that immediately. And Reese's
Speaker 3: obviously is normal self of well, you've ruined it for
Speaker 3: yourself if you've looked that hard exactly. Yeah, but there
Speaker 3: are still quite a lot of little nuds when you
Speaker 3: when you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, so I Well, it's a common thing
Speaker 1: in our podcast that you will always ask me have
Speaker 1: you seen such and such a film, and I'll be
Speaker 1: like no, But I thought i'd get ahead of the
Speaker 1: game with this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did your homework and you I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, one of our listeners, James, was saying to
Speaker 1: me that not only is this his favorite episode of
Speaker 1: in So number nine, right, but Wickerman is also one
Speaker 1: of his favorite films. Okay, so he really strongly recommended
Speaker 1: to me that I watch it before we do this episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm assuming the original, not the Nicols. Oh god, yeah,
Speaker 3: the bees. The Bees.
Speaker 1: I know. All I know about the Nicolas Cage one
Speaker 1: is that I read that it was badly received, so
Speaker 1: I just didn't bother with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a very terrible scene of him screaming about bees.
Speaker 3: Is all I know about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, But yeah, no, I mean, I'm glad I watched it.
Speaker 3: Very good. I've never seen it, and.
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think it spoiled it going
Speaker 1: in knowing what it was going to be about.
Speaker 3: I think that's the only reason I've not watched it
Speaker 3: because I'm like, I know it's going to happen, so
Speaker 3: I'm just hurry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can understand that, but no, I mean, to
Speaker 1: be fair, I had it on the background while I
Speaker 1: was working, so I was sort of, you know, I was,
Speaker 1: I was watching it. But if my employers are saying, no,
Speaker 1: I was, I was working. Definitely, definitely, But yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought it was very good.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 1: It was weird and good and like, I feel like
Speaker 1: I had a lot to say about sort of religion
Speaker 1: and and yeah, obviously filters into this episode a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's definitely given me a new appreciation for
Speaker 1: it because obviously, first time I'd watched this episode, not
Speaker 1: having seen the film or known anything about it. Really,
Speaker 1: that was my first sort of exposure to that idea
Speaker 1: of like I mean, I mean obviously i'd heard of
Speaker 1: you know, sacrifices and Celtic pagan stuff, but you know,
Speaker 1: not having seen the thing that it's clearly referencing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is different a different experience, isn't it Differently?
Speaker 3: Yeah, recently I've said it's like it's their favorite. I
Speaker 3: think I don't know if it's their favorite in this
Speaker 3: genre or just their favorite film overall. That's why they
Speaker 3: wanted to make it so badly.
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing you've listened to their podcast for this week. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I was good. I don't know if they confirmed this
Speaker 1: on the podcast, but I was wondering if, with it
Speaker 1: being based on the Wickerman, if the character names were
Speaker 1: a reference of Edwards.
Speaker 3: Hard mister Hardy definitely. Yeah, they never referenced Edwards. If
Speaker 3: they did, I missed it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Hardy being Robin Hardy, the director, Yes, of
Speaker 1: Wicked Man, but I assumed mister Edwards was named after
Speaker 1: Edward Woodward makes sense the main actor in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I forgot that he was the actor. No,
Speaker 3: they didn't reference that quite probably was the reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. So yeah, I mean we
Speaker 1: we sometimes like to say, you know, if you haven't
Speaker 1: watched the episode, but I'm sure you know by now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're still listening to this and listen to a.
Speaker 1: Podcast analysis of an episode that you haven't watched.
Speaker 3: What are you doing with your Yeah?
Speaker 1: They always say that on the inside BBC thing, don't they.
Speaker 1: And while we're on that, can I just have say
Speaker 1: a bugbear of mine if anyone's listened to that BBC
Speaker 1: Sounds thing. The way that Reese pronounces or delivers the
Speaker 1: title he goes inside inside number nine really annoys me
Speaker 1: because you should put the emphasis on the first one
Speaker 1: because it's inside inside number nine bugs me every time.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, so if you if you're listening Reese,
Speaker 1: sort yourself out.
Speaker 3: Back in time. And yeah, but speaking of other things
Speaker 3: I learned from the podcast. Yeah, but it was originally
Speaker 3: how they were going to imagine this, but they were
Speaker 3: trying to come up with different things that they could
Speaker 3: have as a nine. Oh yeah, obviously end up with
Speaker 3: a classroom in the end. But originally it was going
Speaker 3: to be an element number nine florine in the in
Speaker 3: the periodic table, and it was going to be something
Speaker 3: to do with protesting about the use of fluorine and water,
Speaker 3: and it was going to be like a class project
Speaker 3: about it. It was going to ultimately sort of end
Speaker 3: in the same way I get, I think, right, But.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting, because yeah, I was, I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: I was thinking the class nine was a little bit
Speaker 1: of a stretch. Hmmm.
Speaker 3: I quite like it. It's a bit different. It's not
Speaker 3: just a flatter of house.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I don't mind it from that point
Speaker 1: of view, But I just mean from someone who's worked
Speaker 1: in primary schools, and I can't see why they would
Speaker 1: be a class nine. Like you'd either name them by
Speaker 1: their year groups, which obviously doesn't go up to nine, true,
Speaker 1: buy something else like trees or animals or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it doesn't strike me as the school that's
Speaker 3: big enough to need nine different classrooms.
Speaker 1: No exactly. I was going to say that as well,
Speaker 1: like we never see any other teachers or any other classes.
Speaker 3: You do in the filing things. See that there are
Speaker 3: other teachers.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there are. They exist, we just never see them.
Speaker 3: We never see them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we'll get into that as we get and I think,
Speaker 1: yeah about it here, Yeah, let's kind of go through
Speaker 1: what happens. So, like you said in the synopsis, we're
Speaker 1: in this sort of rural Welsh village, very remote and
Speaker 1: very sort of I feel like they're really leaning into
Speaker 1: the stereotype of like backwards country people. Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yes, when Alan Reese's character gets introduced as being from
Speaker 3: London and they're like, we're going to teach this class
Speaker 3: in English, which is helpful if any of you ever
Speaker 3: leave the village.
Speaker 1: I know that you would going to marry your cousins,
Speaker 1: aren't you.
Speaker 3: Your family has been here for generation. Just a concept
Speaker 3: that someone might ever get on a bus and leave,
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, you know, it's a stereotype. But
Speaker 1: I think places like that exist, don't.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I grew up in one one of the
Speaker 3: ones that got out.
Speaker 1: You're one of the adventures.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a village boss that left and went
Speaker 3: to the nearest town once a week. It didn't come back,
Speaker 3: but it went. It was a one way boss on
Speaker 3: a Monday morning. What the hell use that was to anyone?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, why do you want to go back? That's the question.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, once you've seen the bright lights of the
Speaker 3: near town.
Speaker 1: I like Steve's character of mister Edwards. Interesting wig, yes,
Speaker 1: and i I've written down actually maybe it actually is
Speaker 1: a wig for once.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Steve said that he showed his daughter this wig
Speaker 3: and she was like, that is meant to be a wig, right,
Speaker 3: it isn't fire the wig person. Yes, it's meant to
Speaker 3: be a wigger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, good, I think we can excuse that then,
Speaker 1: And that awful sort of tofty Beard thing as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've not this before, but it's just amazing to me
Speaker 1: every week how they they do manage to kind of
Speaker 1: be chameleons and kind of become completely different people.
Speaker 3: Fifty odd different characters. Yeah, the whole series. It's impressive,
Speaker 3: and like they're all subtly different. I know we joke
Speaker 3: sometimes that some of the characters come back, but like
Speaker 3: they're not. No, no, they are different every time. Absolutely
Speaker 3: have some similarities, but yeah, there are like snowflakes.
Speaker 1: Although on that note, Jumber, in series one, when we
Speaker 1: did Tom and Jerry, I'm sure you said, as you said,
Speaker 1: I think there's an episode maybe where they talked about
Speaker 1: bringing this character back. Yes, I'm assuming this is the one.
Speaker 3: It is this, It is this. They do cover that
Speaker 3: in the podcast, but yeah, they did consider doing that.
Speaker 3: I knew I'd heard it somewhere and I googled and
Speaker 3: google and couldn't find it because it's in the podcast, right,
Speaker 3: But yeah, they underneried about it, and apparently it was
Speaker 3: in the script for most of the script that that
Speaker 3: was the case, but they ultimately decided it didn't really
Speaker 3: add anything. No, all it did was add a bit
Speaker 3: of confusion for people that hadn't seen the previous episode
Speaker 3: that would feel like they'd missed something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can understand that.
Speaker 3: Plus I suppose they wanted a blank's light with it.
Speaker 3: But also I guess it kind of takes away from
Speaker 3: the misdirection story that they're going along. That wasn't the
Speaker 3: hair with thee what they're tried like that there might
Speaker 3: be something dodgy going on with Yes, the Allen character,
Speaker 3: So if you already sort of know who.
Speaker 1: He is, Yeah, and it would I think it would
Speaker 1: just be a shame to kind of break their rule off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone being in a separate They've never done
Speaker 1: that in any other episode. I didn't see why.
Speaker 3: I would have quite liked them to have done it once.
Speaker 3: But it be the twist that we already know this person,
Speaker 3: or it's a prequel to a different story and it
Speaker 3: ends with another story starting or something, Yeah, like could
Speaker 3: have been interesting. But yeah, I didn't really add anything here,
Speaker 3: so they didn't.
Speaker 1: Bother No, so yeah, he is a separate person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mister Curtis that.
Speaker 3: The whole time writing my notes, getting lost between whether
Speaker 3: he's called Alan or Adam. Yeah, I couldn't actually.
Speaker 1: Remember he's also got an interesting wig.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's better than Steves, but it is it's still
Speaker 3: it's still a wig. Yeah. I feel sorry for whoever
Speaker 3: the wik person was that he keeps liking them off everything.
Speaker 1: No, I'm so sorry. One day we'll get you on
Speaker 1: the podcast Your Corner you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had fifty per Yeah, I had seven wigs and
Speaker 2: I kept spraying them and head and styling them and
Speaker 2: trimming them.
Speaker 3: They're like Marge's dress and the Simpsons.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yes, there's at that brilliant moment where
Speaker 1: she everything's gone wrong and she just sits there and
Speaker 1: goes at times like this, Oh you can do is laugh.
Speaker 1: She just sits there in silence, so relateable. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was what I tried. I tried to do a
Speaker 1: March impression and no voice came out. It's just like
Speaker 1: croaking away. It is a hard one.
Speaker 3: It's in her contract that she doesn't have to do
Speaker 3: the voice outside of recording for the thing, actually for
Speaker 3: the Simpsons, because she hates doing it that much in
Speaker 3: public that she wrote it into her contract. They can't
Speaker 3: make her do it in like interviews or whatever. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's where you'll never ever see her doing it. No,
Speaker 3: plus it's just the horrible on her throat to do
Speaker 3: it well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean have you heard some of them more recent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's changed a lot, hasn't.
Speaker 1: It sounds like she's, yeah, needing to retire, but her
Speaker 1: voice is ragged, bless her AnyWho. So yeah, so we've
Speaker 1: got this introduction of the new teacher and the head
Speaker 1: says that they've got a postcard from their last teacher,
Speaker 1: mister King. Yes, and he gets a girl carry to
Speaker 1: read it out.
Speaker 3: And he's wishing them well from down under.
Speaker 1: Which takes on a whole new meaning when you know
Speaker 1: the twist it does.
Speaker 3: I remember when we were in primary school getting teachers
Speaker 3: like would send postcard from holidays and things, and it
Speaker 3: was so sweet.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is sweet. Yeah it was a different time
Speaker 1: than really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really was. I don't know if they still
Speaker 3: do that, That's.
Speaker 1: What I was going to say, Like, I can't really
Speaker 1: imagine that these days. It'll be maybe you might get
Speaker 1: an email or something these days, but postcards are something
Speaker 1: quaint and cute about that, isn't there. Yeah I do
Speaker 1: miss primary school. I mean I know I say that
Speaker 1: as someone who only a few months ago stopped working
Speaker 1: in a primary school.
Speaker 3: So you say, do you miss the primary school working
Speaker 3: there of high school being there?
Speaker 1: Both? Really, but yeah, there's a lot of nostalgia about it,
Speaker 1: isn't there. Do you ever see those posts on like
Speaker 1: TikTok and stuff that are like, you know, pictures of
Speaker 1: things that every nineties primary school had and like those
Speaker 1: scissors with the like red handles and yeah, and I
Speaker 1: see those posts and I'm like, they still have those now.
Speaker 3: Like I saw a video of kids trying to identify
Speaker 3: ancient technology and it was an overhead projector. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to work a load of primary school kids trying to
Speaker 3: work out what the overhead projector was going to do. Yeah,
Speaker 3: not many of them got it right.
Speaker 1: Those were those were all the rage.
Speaker 3: Being a big honor. If you've got to be the
Speaker 3: person in assembly that would put up the words to
Speaker 3: the carols that the ymns or whatever you were singing
Speaker 3: on the air of a projector. Yeah, and you'd be
Speaker 3: there with a little sheet of regular paper on top,
Speaker 3: covering up the lines and like moving it along.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or sometimes they would write on it with a
Speaker 1: pen and then you could see that go across on
Speaker 1: the screen.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Magic.
Speaker 1: Anyone like jen Z or whatever listening to this will
Speaker 1: be like, do you know what you're talking about?
Speaker 3: No, We're sorry we've lost you.
Speaker 1: But no, it was. It was a good time, just
Speaker 1: you know, coming in and sitting on the carpet, ye singing, Hey,
Speaker 1: Diddle diddle, dumplings and gravy in the lunch hole, apple
Speaker 1: crumble and custard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had telly to be custarded. It was bright pink.
Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah, well it's what they called telly. Have
Speaker 3: we custard? But yeah, yeah, custard. That was pinky? Was it?
Speaker 1: Why was it pink?
Speaker 3: I don't know. They just I guess they'd not watch
Speaker 3: what color is telly to be cust.
Speaker 1: Tell custard is pink? Yeah, oh is it right? But
Speaker 1: custard is not normally pink. Why yours was pink?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I expected it probably still is still there.
Speaker 3: I imagine the cook's still there doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I grew up in this school. By the way,
Speaker 3: This is my kind of school.
Speaker 1: I imagine.
Speaker 3: I was a little village.
Speaker 1: I imagine it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was about sixty of us, sixty kids or something.
Speaker 1: Yes, most my partner Ben was similar. He was he
Speaker 1: grew up in a small village and I was gobsmacked
Speaker 1: when he told me that there were so few people
Speaker 1: that they would they combined year groups, that they'd have
Speaker 1: year five and six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were the same, like it would be in.
Speaker 1: A class together below. Yeah, that's crazy to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we only had four classrooms. Reception had a classroom
Speaker 3: one and two shared, three and four shared, and five
Speaker 3: and six shared.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: I don't really know looking back how it worked. Apparently
Speaker 3: it did.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah you're here now somehow Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I know nothing, but yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's fun from that point of view. And
Speaker 1: as I say, someone who's worked in schools as well,
Speaker 1: it's it's an interest. Although I'll get into it, but
Speaker 1: like some of my pet peeves about the way that
Speaker 1: schools are portrayed on TV and film, I suppose this
Speaker 1: is the same. Any anytime you know it's your area
Speaker 1: and you know things, you see it on screen and
Speaker 1: you think, well, that's not accurate.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's mo worrying when it's someone like the
Speaker 3: Minister for such and such saying a thing that's your
Speaker 3: area and you're like, well, I understand that, and that's
Speaker 3: not right. Yeah, what's all the stuff that I don't
Speaker 3: understand what they're talking about? What does the how bad
Speaker 3: is that?
Speaker 1: But it's like the big thing that gets me is
Speaker 1: when it's it's like the timings of lessons. Like if
Speaker 1: you ever see a lesson in a scene, you always
Speaker 1: pick it up and it seems like they're literally just
Speaker 1: introducing the topic and then about two seconds later the
Speaker 1: bell goes for the lesson. It's like, well, that teacher
Speaker 1: clearly planned their lesson really badly, and like the random
Speaker 1: words that in this that he just writes up on
Speaker 1: the board. That why is he just chosen to right
Speaker 1: humans up on the board like out of context?
Speaker 3: It is a funny like yeah, and like how old
Speaker 3: are these kids meant to be? Do we reckon? I'm
Speaker 3: very bad at guessing the ages of children.
Speaker 1: I'd say they're probably nine or ten, eight or nine. Okay,
Speaker 1: perhaps that's why they're class nine.
Speaker 3: That makes sense, I guess, But yeah, they do seem
Speaker 3: to Their homework seems to be quite extreme of like
Speaker 3: I'm just going to tell you the vague basics of
Speaker 3: the environment and global warming, and you're going to go
Speaker 3: away and home and learn the entire thing yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what you're meant to.
Speaker 3: Be doing the job of teaching these children? I know
Speaker 3: you're farming it out to the internet and their parents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did think the character was not a great teacher,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't seem to be a natural with kids.
Speaker 3: Like, no, I can see him trying at points.
Speaker 1: But whether that's the character or whether that's just Reese.
Speaker 3: Well, but speaking of which, the kids, that must have
Speaker 3: been a when they were debating doing this or do
Speaker 3: we do this? Because this is going to involve a
Speaker 3: lot of children and this could be an awful week
Speaker 3: of filming when most of your actors are children, especially
Speaker 3: if at age. Yes, if you don't know how they're
Speaker 3: going to do, Like, obviously you've got to cast some
Speaker 3: of these people and like, yeah, they might be great
Speaker 3: when they're just chatting in an interview thing, but when
Speaker 3: you actually put them in a room and set cameras
Speaker 3: up and everything, what they're going to be like And yeah,
Speaker 3: it could torpedo the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't say anything on the podcast about where
Speaker 1: they got them from or anything.
Speaker 3: They didn't say where they got them from specifically. They
Speaker 3: only cast those main four the.
Speaker 1: Ones who speak.
Speaker 3: The four that get names, Yeah, Kerry, Ewan, Gwen and Knowen.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the torch would cast.
Speaker 3: And the rest they were like just I guess who
Speaker 3: did okay but wouldn't get lines. The whole point was
Speaker 3: short of the assembly, where they should just be as
Speaker 3: good as any kid would be at that age in
Speaker 3: an assembly. Yes, like they don't have to be good actors.
Speaker 1: Because they were perfect in that regard.
Speaker 3: That's what they were doing at school anyway.
Speaker 1: Great, Yeah, yeah, I mean there's only about there's only
Speaker 1: twelve kids in the class anyway, they'reabouts. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's four ROAs the three three. It's
Speaker 1: my mask coming up again, you'd write with my calculator.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they are really good. Kerry especially is fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's very good. I don't know if I thought
Speaker 1: the others were that good, but.
Speaker 3: No, well, they were good as child actors go.
Speaker 1: It's always tricky as children. Yeah, yeah, but I feel
Speaker 1: like they were very also, you know, and obviously another consideration.
Speaker 1: I always think this when you when you have child
Speaker 1: actors in you know, shows that have adult themes in them,
Speaker 1: Like how you sort of protect the kids during that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like, I feel like they were quite careful about,
Speaker 1: you know, what happens in scenes that children are in
Speaker 1: and what does what happens outside of that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I watched it back the second I've watched
Speaker 3: it a couple of times today. The second time I
Speaker 3: watched it specifically watching out for like when they say
Speaker 3: bad stuff, it's always just Reese or Steve like. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's very well cut together to make you think that
Speaker 3: everyone's there, but they can keep them separate. Have you
Speaker 3: watched the film The Babaduk.
Speaker 1: No, we've had another one.
Speaker 3: It's very good, but it's just a mom and her
Speaker 3: son and it's like a horror film that shit happens.
Speaker 3: And I saw it into You where they talk about
Speaker 3: how they made it and how much of a nightmare
Speaker 3: it was to keep this ten year old away from
Speaker 3: all the stuff that's absolutely terrifying and would scar this
Speaker 3: child for life and like what like that. They essentially
Speaker 3: wrote a whole different film that this kid thinks it
Speaker 3: was they were making.
Speaker 1: Because didn't I read they did that with Danny for
Speaker 1: The Shining. They told him it was a completely different
Speaker 1: film that was a horror.
Speaker 3: It makes sense, Yeah, must be a whole other level
Speaker 3: of complexity, like it's are difficult, you have to make
Speaker 3: a film, but they only make two films, one of
Speaker 3: which is imaginary and only for a ten year old.
Speaker 3: And then they watched this like they must have told
Speaker 3: their friends and stuff, I'm in this film. We're not
Speaker 3: allowed to watch it. And then like ten years later
Speaker 3: you watch this film and find.
Speaker 1: Out what made I know that must be crazy.
Speaker 3: It's so weird because you'll only have the memories of
Speaker 3: it being nice and everyone's fluffy and happy, and then
Speaker 3: you watch you know, your friend the coastar, your dad's
Speaker 3: running around with an acts hopping people up, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so fun. Fact that's just pops into my head.
Speaker 1: But when I was about.
Speaker 3: Six, were you a secret child actor?
Speaker 1: Well? No, I don't know have ever told you this,
Speaker 1: but yeah, got into acting and stuff like that from
Speaker 1: quite a young age. And one of my teachers had
Speaker 1: a contact. And when I was about six, I went
Speaker 1: to audition for a show, a TV show that Paul
Speaker 1: McGahn was starring in. It was called Phish, and I
Speaker 1: have no idea what it was about, but there was
Speaker 1: a part for like a small boy in it, and
Speaker 1: literally my mum and Dad still laugh at me about it.
Speaker 1: But in the audition it said something in the script
Speaker 1: about Man United, the football team, and the person in
Speaker 1: the audition said to me, I know it says Man
Speaker 1: United in the script, but can you just say, man
Speaker 1: you I think they were like trying to asked me
Speaker 1: to see if I could take direction, okay, and me,
Speaker 1: me and my little autistic brain, I just we got
Speaker 1: that bit in the line and I just went, man,
Speaker 1: you nighted like, just put it in the brackets because
Speaker 1: just to show that I knew it's still said that
Speaker 1: in the script. And my mum was like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: didn't get it because of that. And then my parents
Speaker 1: watched it and they were saying to me, oh, you
Speaker 1: would have done much better than that.
Speaker 3: Boy they got of course you would would, yeah.
Speaker 1: But no I did. I did another thing I was
Speaker 1: this is random tangent. I was also in an advert
Speaker 1: for The Guardian and British Airways, right, you know.
Speaker 3: You're actually in the advert I just told I was
Speaker 3: yeah cool.
Speaker 1: And when I was about ten.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Basically, they were doing this thing if you buy one
Speaker 1: get one free plane tickets, so that the idea being
Speaker 1: you get to choose who you sit next to so
Speaker 1: in the advert, I was this person that you wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to sit next to you because.
Speaker 3: I was you're the screamy child exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was on a game Boy and being really
Speaker 1: obnoxious and American and annoying. The guy came and sat
Speaker 1: next to me. I had to throw a milkshake over him. Wow,
Speaker 1: and that was that was an experience because you know,
Speaker 1: we did it like several times with different takes, and
Speaker 1: it was like going in his eyes and he was going, oh,
Speaker 1: fucking hell, fucking hell. He was going, sorry, Stephen, Oh
Speaker 1: that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh wow, that's really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a random tangent. But yeah, I just
Speaker 1: thought of it.
Speaker 3: Child actors, well, they said about kids making mistakes and
Speaker 3: like how they kept them in because they felt it
Speaker 3: made it more real. Like at the end when they
Speaker 3: say I think it's Gwen has a speech about fifteenth
Speaker 3: century Peru children and how she put the comma in
Speaker 3: the wrong place and it should be fifteenth century Peru
Speaker 3: children were Oh, yeah, but kids do that, she says,
Speaker 3: fifteenth century Peru children.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's very realistic, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just kept it in because it felt real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh perfect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you should have got that role originally because
Speaker 3: that would have been more authentic tick for a child exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. AnyWho, any who, where were we I just feel
Speaker 1: like I've completely overshared about my life now.
Speaker 3: No, it's good.
Speaker 1: So I mean we've yeah, we've talked about this end
Speaker 1: of term assembly that they're working towards based on the environment. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're always on the environment.
Speaker 3: Such an easy one, isn't it. I don't remember us
Speaker 3: doing assemblies, but we must have done, but I don't
Speaker 3: remember them. I remember doing like the Nativity thing at Christmas,
Speaker 3: but that's the only one I ever remember doing. We
Speaker 3: must have done them, but I have no memory. But
Speaker 3: I was that painfully shy that I've probably just blotted
Speaker 3: them out.
Speaker 1: Yeah traumatic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but we did all the harvest festivals, and though
Speaker 5: we were a probably little sea of school, so it
Speaker 5: was all oh yeah, yeah, all that bringing all the
Speaker 5: vegetables and the tins of peaches and stuff at the
Speaker 5: back of the cupboards and all that crap.
Speaker 1: That's another meme I'm sure I saw. That was about
Speaker 1: when I was a kid at primary school. I thought
Speaker 1: the harvest was going to be a much bigger part
Speaker 1: of my life than it ended up.
Speaker 3: Trained on how to do it for six years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were saying as well about how you know,
Speaker 1: there's so many different ways this could be going when
Speaker 1: you don't know. So at this point, I guess it
Speaker 1: feels a little bit like it's going to be a
Speaker 1: story about this teacher that is, you know, not settling him. Well,
Speaker 1: he's getting overshadowed by his predecessor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Plus he's taking pills, Like, yes, what's going on
Speaker 3: with him? What's happened to him?
Speaker 1: And he's he's like he's on edge, and like he
Speaker 1: has that bit where he shouts at them about because
Speaker 1: they don't know about the environment and they're being a
Speaker 1: bit silly. Yeah, and he's like, you know, there's not
Speaker 1: something you can be ignorant about, and it's like roaring
Speaker 1: at them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it must be the hardest bit of being a teacher.
Speaker 3: And just like not getting annoyed at these kids being
Speaker 3: stupid all the time, I would find it impossible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is hard to why I don't.
Speaker 2: Get all the kids I've cannot deal with them.
Speaker 3: The bottle of vodka in the headmaster's office. Trial makes
Speaker 3: a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Because yeah, we find out later that he's been ordered
Speaker 1: by the doctor to sort of take a quieter life.
Speaker 1: He's obviously had some sort of breakdown or something. Yep,
Speaker 1: so we're maybe thinking is that going to rear its
Speaker 1: head again?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Or what exactly was his breakdown? What happened?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's not uncommon in the teaching profession.
Speaker 1: It's a very pressured career.
Speaker 3: I'd be surprised, and like, we're on the seventh series
Speaker 3: of this now, Like it wouldn't be out of character
Speaker 3: for him to just go mental, Like it could do anything,
Speaker 3: and it wouldn't be out of character for the series.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, So it definitely feels like it's it's
Speaker 1: some sort of story about this guy not succeeding in
Speaker 1: his job in some way. I think, yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: he he's not very happy about the way that these
Speaker 1: children seem to have been taught by mister King.
Speaker 3: No, what curricula are they following?
Speaker 1: Yes? So he asks for an email address.
Speaker 3: Is that the Little Blue Bird?
Speaker 1: No, that's Twitter? Oh yes, tashtagsh tags And then later
Speaker 1: on he calls it a b male and I'm like
Speaker 1: he is he playing this up for effect? Or I
Speaker 1: don't know or is he really that of a blood eye?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think my parents would know
Speaker 3: what twitter was.
Speaker 1: No, but be male.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that seemed extreme, but it just hit me then
Speaker 3: I wonder whether these kids know nothing because they murdered
Speaker 3: their teacher about six weeks into the year. Exactly what
Speaker 3: do they do for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: I was thinking that the so is the idea that
Speaker 1: they're doing it once a year at this point of
Speaker 1: the year for the harvest thing?
Speaker 3: Yes, and harvest festival is something like August, isn't sorry,
Speaker 3: just like October isn't it? Yeah? October?
Speaker 1: So so yeah, so who is teaching them for the
Speaker 1: rest of the year.
Speaker 3: But I wondered how this works? So whether it's always
Speaker 3: Class nine and they're just the class nine of this year.
Speaker 1: That was my other question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because but then they worked with mister King.
Speaker 1: They worked with mister King. Yeah, so that was them.
Speaker 1: So why is it Class nine doing it? And what
Speaker 1: are these other classes doing? Are they not doing a sacrifice?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I was going to wordw questions later. Why
Speaker 3: mister Edwards gets annoyed that they're doing the assembly and
Speaker 3: I can only assume that it's that normally the assembly
Speaker 3: were being in front of the whole school and the
Speaker 3: sacrifice will be with the whole school watching, And it's
Speaker 3: just this class that happens to do it.
Speaker 1: And so you know, is it a case of like
Speaker 1: liking Wickerman, everybody in this village is following this same
Speaker 1: religion and yeah, and they're all in on it because
Speaker 1: otherwise I'm like, why, you know, people wouldn't let this happen.
Speaker 3: So I assume, yeah, I assume it's just a whole
Speaker 3: the whole village is yeah, some strange pagan cult or
Speaker 3: whatever it is exactly. Yeah, how they keep getting teachers,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you think some would investigate why they keep
Speaker 1: her disappearing.
Speaker 3: I mean, I can understand it vaguely if you go
Speaker 3: back to like the sixties or fifties or whenever, and
Speaker 3: it's just by all accounts, it just seemed to be
Speaker 3: anything when like who knows what's going on. There's no
Speaker 3: real paper trailer of anything exactly right nowadays, even references
Speaker 3: ofsted like round.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've instead have been round. Yeah, there's and there's
Speaker 1: I mean that we're going to come on to it
Speaker 1: in a minute, so I'll save it for them. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so say what I was going.
Speaker 3: To say, we're jumping about all over the place.
Speaker 1: It's kind of one of those episodes I think that
Speaker 1: you have to. So next thing really is, we've got
Speaker 1: an art lesson on a different day.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: One thing I wrote down was a child making a
Speaker 1: teach a cup of tea. Yeah, question mark, exclamation mark,
Speaker 1: exclamation mark.
Speaker 3: What I mean? Well, firstly, obviously that's dangerous, but secondly,
Speaker 3: what rocky teacher mistake is it to not even check
Speaker 3: that nothing weirds in your cup before you drink out
Speaker 3: of it? Given you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also you know they're not your fucking slaves.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I think she does it if she offers
Speaker 1: rather than ask at it. But still it's very weird.
Speaker 1: But also yeah, I mean that would never happen in
Speaker 1: the school I was working in. They weren't. So when
Speaker 1: I first started working there, you were only allowed hot drinks,
Speaker 1: so you could have them in the staff room in
Speaker 1: a normal mug, but if you were going out of
Speaker 1: the staff room, they had to be in a like
Speaker 1: a travel cup that was like sea leable on the top.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then there was an incident where a child got
Speaker 1: hot tea on them because they jumped up at a
Speaker 1: teacher while they were drinking from their mug like a cat.
Speaker 1: Pretty much. Yeah, that's exactly a pretty much it. So
Speaker 1: then they made the blanket rule that you can't have
Speaker 1: hot drinks at all outside of the staff room.
Speaker 3: Right, so yeah, it a little Oliver ruined everything exactly. Yes,
Speaker 3: I'm joking. I hope this kid was.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh it was fine, but yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't understand it if she's just taken it
Speaker 3: upon herself to make the cup of tea. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: surely Alan should have like told her off afterwards, being
Speaker 3: like this is lovely, but you shouldn't do this like it's.
Speaker 1: I mean, does that mean there's a kettle somewhere that
Speaker 1: she can just access like safeguarding. Yeah, hello, he's.
Speaker 3: Not really got much awareness of the room, Like kettle
Speaker 3: doesn't boil instantly. You'd have heard that, surely.
Speaker 1: But then all these things that I've written down, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well that doesn't that's not right. And I
Speaker 1: think you can just explain by saying, well, it's a
Speaker 1: very rural, you know, remote place. They don't follow the
Speaker 1: rules that everyone else does. It's all fashioned. It's this
Speaker 1: it's that.
Speaker 3: That plus Allan is that highly strung that he's like
Speaker 3: he's just not there as presently as he maybe should be.
Speaker 3: Either between those two things, you can probably But.
Speaker 1: Also I'm thinking, like maybe that is normal in that school.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're in other classrooms, well, children are making tea
Speaker 1: for their teachers, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean these kids are then having to sacrifice
Speaker 3: an adult, So I mean they don't think that's strict
Speaker 3: No exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, so she's boiled tadpoles for reasons, yeah,
Speaker 1: and put them in the tea. Yeah, I think you're
Speaker 1: supposed to assume the reason that she's done it is
Speaker 1: because she doesn't like him, because she doesn't like him
Speaker 1: compared to mister King, And it's like a you know,
Speaker 1: it's like a roll Darley sort of know.
Speaker 3: That was going to be my question.
Speaker 1: Tadpoles in your tea sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't really understand why she did it, but yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: That was that. I think that's what you're supposed to think.
Speaker 1: But then I think taking the whole twist into account, right,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's maybe maybe to do with like
Speaker 1: this whole life and death sacrificing animals. Sort of thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 3: I can see that. That was the bit that threw
Speaker 3: me the most of the episode. I was just like,
Speaker 3: I don't really understand why they're.
Speaker 1: Doing this weird. I didn't think it's a stupid thing
Speaker 1: to say. I won't say that. I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: say it. I was gonna say I didn't think tadpoles
Speaker 1: were that big, But then I'm like, they've obviously've got
Speaker 1: to grow into little froglets, so they've got to grow.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, but yeah, whenever I picture them, I
Speaker 1: thought they pictured them smaller than that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, they are quite big. Okay, so no
Speaker 3: other question. Kerry says that like, oh it's okay, like
Speaker 3: mister king a goldfish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
Speaker 3: I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wrote that down a small.
Speaker 3: She's just making it up, Like, I don't understand why
Speaker 3: she'll be making it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That is a very weird bit, isn't it. I
Speaker 1: think I feel like I've missed something.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I don't get that, and why we
Speaker 3: also get that Kerry's been has pushed some kid in
Speaker 3: a cake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a few bits here that I feel are
Speaker 2: designed for more of more again, not a misdirection, yes,
Speaker 2: from the story.
Speaker 1: We need another word for misdirection. Yeah, but yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. I think it is though,
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's just like red herrings.
Speaker 3: And yeah, that don't quite make well. I mean I
Speaker 3: don't really care.
Speaker 1: But no, it's she, you know, maybe she is just
Speaker 1: a little bitch that people faces and cakes.
Speaker 3: I mean, she's having an extension built after all, So like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I love that when he's like, is there
Speaker 1: anything going on at home? We're having an extension?
Speaker 3: Well that close it up, thank you.
Speaker 1: It sounds like, you know, a great scripted line for
Speaker 1: a comedy thing. But I could totally hear a child
Speaker 1: saying that. Yeah, children do say the funniest.
Speaker 3: Things they do, dude.
Speaker 1: And but there's also this he makes a Michael Jackson reference,
Speaker 1: which personally, I feel like, I feel like it's in
Speaker 1: there because of where things are about to go, and
Speaker 1: it's almost like priming the audience, sort of putting that
Speaker 1: seed in your mind off. These things exist, these things happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how I feel about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an odd thing for him to have said,
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's there to make the rest of it
Speaker 3: make more sense than you not to question it.
Speaker 1: Yes, because he's I mean, you know, obviously he gets suspected. Well,
Speaker 1: he thinks he's being suspected of things, but he's not
Speaker 1: done in a thing dodgy. No, But like you say,
Speaker 1: it's a strange, strange thing for him to say to
Speaker 1: a child. This is where I wrote down that he,
Speaker 1: like I said, he doesn't doesn't seem like a natural
Speaker 1: with children. He seems very awkward with her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is specifically the scene I meant, how
Speaker 3: good an actor that Alanoan is that's playing Kerry does
Speaker 3: him like I do buy that she's really upset and like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, she does such a good job of it.
Speaker 1: When he says about do you want to go outside
Speaker 1: or stay in here with me? In the way she
Speaker 1: goes stay with you, it was really really realistic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, But again adds to the creepy bit
Speaker 3: of how he responds of like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know exactly, Like it definitely feels like it's
Speaker 1: pointing towards that when he's like good girl, and it's
Speaker 1: like and then yeah, and then it pans to the
Speaker 1: painting of the face with the like paint.
Speaker 3: Tear, Yeah, and like just if you put that in
Speaker 3: it makes you think it's more sinister than it was exactly.
Speaker 3: And he's just saying, good girl, stay here if you're
Speaker 3: scared kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know. It's an odd choice of maybe an odd
Speaker 3: choice of words, and it's a weird delivery exactly.
Speaker 1: The delivery is creepy. I think he just he just
Speaker 1: seems awkward to me. Yeah, yeah, you know, and when
Speaker 1: he like sort of pats her comfortingly, like he's quite
Speaker 1: awkward about that. But to be honest, he shouldn't be
Speaker 1: doing that, especially when it's just him and her in
Speaker 1: the room.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But again, this place doesn't seem to follow any of
Speaker 1: the bridge, of course. Yeah. It does seem very sort
Speaker 1: of ad hoc, like very sort of improvised, like oh,
Speaker 1: he looks at his watch and he's like, oh, you've
Speaker 1: got fifteen minutes go and have a play. It's not
Speaker 1: like a structured oh it's break time. Yeah, He's just
Speaker 1: sort of like, off you go and have a play
Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: I've had enough of you.
Speaker 1: Another strange bit where he's cutting a bit off a carrot, yeah,
Speaker 1: to pretend and it's a goldfish.
Speaker 3: He's clearly like very in the shadow of mister King
Speaker 3: and like trying to Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't like the idea of dipping that
Speaker 1: carrot in that fish tank water and then eating it.
Speaker 3: I think you're going to get something from that. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 3: And it's not the support of your peers like mysteria.
Speaker 1: And then mister Edwards just comes in, Oh bit peckish,
Speaker 1: are you, Steve, have of a time this week? The joyous,
Speaker 1: isn't it? So he comes in to question him, and
Speaker 1: he has the brilliant line here where he says it's
Speaker 1: important we talk sensitively about mental health. So I just
Speaker 1: wanted to clarify you went a bit doolally, didn't you.
Speaker 3: Oh dear hl screaming somewhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we get him sitting him down to discuss what's
Speaker 3: happened with Carrie. The previous day. She has made allegations
Speaker 3: which was terrifying for any teacher to hear. Yes, like
Speaker 3: of the you know you've not done anything, and a
Speaker 3: kid can say anything like that must be a horrible
Speaker 3: position to be in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is this is why, as I say,
Speaker 1: there are protocols and ways to go about things like
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have been in a room alone with her.
Speaker 1: Yeah like that, because because you know, you have to
Speaker 1: protect yourself, you know, to make sure that you you're
Speaker 1: not open to any allegations or anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, these this remote school, it should be should
Speaker 1: be following the processes that are there for a reason,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And like he says to him about
Speaker 1: the you know, oh, she's had a lot going on.
Speaker 1: She was boiling tadpoles the other day. And he's telling
Speaker 1: him this like it's news to him, But he should
Speaker 1: have told him that on the day it happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like that's something that needs to be documented and reported, right,
Speaker 1: you know, because obviously there is an unusual thing for
Speaker 1: her to do. Like if I was in school and
Speaker 1: that happened, that I'd be logging that straight away. Mh.
Speaker 3: This kid's weird. To keep an eye on them, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, not that they're weird, but you know, concerns.
Speaker 3: The main character in the horror film. Soon they'll be
Speaker 3: that kid that's drawing the weird stick figures that hang
Speaker 3: in trees and stuff that you always see in horror films. Yeah,
Speaker 3: kids are always drying creepy ship yes, Yeah, mister Edwards
Speaker 3: says that she's been discussing stuff that's not found in
Speaker 3: different chip books.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh they've not got Kipper, have they in this little.
Speaker 1: Village haven't hasn't quite arrived yet.
Speaker 3: We're on the early day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's that joke about the Wi Fi connection. Takes
Speaker 1: me all weekend to download one country file. I'm like,
Speaker 1: is that the joke? I think it is.
Speaker 3: That that I didn't know that the.
Speaker 1: First syllable of country file meaning because there's people always
Speaker 1: joke about, oh, you know, the days before we're all
Speaker 1: banned and you'd have to be all like to download
Speaker 1: one you know, picture of something something.
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't. I didn't twig that.
Speaker 1: If that's okay, that's just my dirty mind. But I
Speaker 1: feel like the way he says it all weekend to
Speaker 1: download one country file.
Speaker 3: I have to listen back.
Speaker 1: And yes, so you said you were confused whether he's
Speaker 1: Alan or Adam. Yeah, so is Steve. I love wordplay
Speaker 1: like that. Mm hmm. It's really well well written and timed, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know you from Alan, it's Adam.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry I thought it was Adam, you know. And
Speaker 1: he just carries on calling to Adam after that.
Speaker 3: That's the episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is where it shifts from. You know,
Speaker 1: he's he's going about things in a vaguely by the
Speaker 1: book seeming way, and then all of a sudden, now
Speaker 1: to the blue. Yeah, yeah, he wants to see his
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Penis.
Speaker 3: Just get possessed by a demon demon. I love Steve's
Speaker 3: delivery of well there was a plastic see model, but
Speaker 3: I don't want to touch it, so like it was
Speaker 3: his spoilers, but all of this is made up like that,
Speaker 3: He's just added that little bit of flavor to the
Speaker 3: story for him to just for the sake of it.
Speaker 3: Just I guess because he finds it funny.
Speaker 1: He knows what he's doing. But yeah, this is where
Speaker 1: it's it gets very weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it goes from it's potentially weird too, it's weird now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And at this point I'm just thinking, why why
Speaker 1: is he Why is Alan not just getting the fuck
Speaker 1: out of that school right now?
Speaker 3: Well, I guess like he knows he's not done anything wrong, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but he can't prove it, and he's scared, you know,
Speaker 3: his entire life's about to come crashing down. As his
Speaker 3: child said something yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I guess he's not thinking and this whole thing.
Speaker 1: You know, he says, oh, I could contact your union rep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's he doesn't want that, but but that's, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, that's exactly the situation where you would want
Speaker 1: a union rep because they're they're supposed to stand up
Speaker 1: for you and all that.
Speaker 3: Maybe bad shits happened at his last school. Maybe he's
Speaker 3: not got good memories of maybe his union rep didn't
Speaker 3: stand up for him and that's how he lost his
Speaker 3: job there. And yeah, yeah, he's clearly just not thinking straight.
Speaker 1: I just you know when you I mean fucking hell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so weird. He just seemed quite quickly to just sort
Speaker 1: of go all right, get on with it sort of thing,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which boy was thread with whips out of polaroid camera.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh dear, and the look of glee
Speaker 2: in Steve's face, he's just so exciting. Well yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so he starts very closely inspecting yes as a special
Speaker 2: guest star Winnie, and that baden pops up.
Speaker 3: Oh she's great, she is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's lovely to see her.
Speaker 3: She's such a carry on character here though not maybe
Speaker 3: in this scene, but when she goes on about melons
Speaker 3: and stuff later or whatever she's not about.
Speaker 1: She's very funny and she does the accent really nicely
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: She does to the point where I was wondering if
Speaker 3: she even was well. She sounded so believable to me.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he is a good Welsh accent
Speaker 3: or not, but yeah, yeah, I just had her as
Speaker 3: Margaret going I've gone native.
Speaker 1: I was going to say that, and I thought that's
Speaker 1: too niche of Jake for our general audience. But I
Speaker 1: was thinking that, you know, and all that exactly.
Speaker 3: Bless her. Yeah, comes in to mop.
Speaker 1: Up and those glasses those really thick. I can't see
Speaker 1: a thing.
Speaker 3: She's blind as a bat.
Speaker 1: Must be helpful for a cleaner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I'm sure she's a fantastic job.
Speaker 1: So next day or whenever it is, at some point
Speaker 1: in the future, we're in another lesson and there is
Speaker 1: giggling going around the class. They're passing something around and
Speaker 1: giggling at it. And my first thought was, are they
Speaker 1: passing around the photos?
Speaker 3: Ah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that scene, which would have been really worrying and unsettling.
Speaker 3: Yes, even I know that's not good.
Speaker 1: I was going to say Is it just me that
Speaker 1: my mind went there?
Speaker 3: Do you think I don't think I considered that. I
Speaker 3: don't know what I thought they were passing around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But because we just had that scene and it
Speaker 1: just sort of just sort of thought, oh my.
Speaker 3: God, yeah, does that is probably actually what you meant
Speaker 3: to be thinking, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It turns out it's a carrot with a protuberance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you know I'm going to do it. Don't
Speaker 1: you have to do the line? Is it? Because this
Speaker 1: bit looks like a penis, a big flubby penis.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but it sounded so legal, gentleman.
Speaker 3: For some reason, I just think like it should be
Speaker 3: a character in that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, the poor guy, like he's a good stuff.
Speaker 3: He's not.
Speaker 1: He's he's unhinged, and he's he's letting his emotions get
Speaker 1: in the way of his professionalism. You know that bit.
Speaker 1: And then the next thing that happens is that Kerry
Speaker 1: comes back into class and apparently it's all sorted out,
Speaker 1: and he does this thing where he says to that
Speaker 1: he's pretending he's talking to them all about just general stuff,
Speaker 1: but really what he's saying to them is don't go
Speaker 1: and spread rumors about me behind my back and stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I get what he where he's coming from,
Speaker 1: but he's letting his hurt emotions get in the way
Speaker 1: of he shouldn't be dealing with it like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean what he's sort of saying is sort
Speaker 3: of good, but he's not freight like. It's not in
Speaker 3: the right way by any stretch. Like he's good advice
Speaker 3: like you know, but not delivered how he did it
Speaker 3: by any stretch. He tries to sell it that he's
Speaker 3: teaching fractions and biology at the same time.
Speaker 1: Interesting combination indeed.
Speaker 3: But Alan's off the hook because there's been a big
Speaker 3: discrepancy between the photo and the description. It's like, we
Speaker 3: are going to kill you in a few weeks, but
Speaker 3: I'll just make you feel like you do. You're good.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, let me get another scene with Winnie. If
Speaker 1: this is an odd scene this, yeah, I do like
Speaker 1: the reference though. So's she's preparing for the harvest festival,
Speaker 1: just got all these vegetables, and then he asked about
Speaker 1: mister King and she says. One thing she says is
Speaker 1: he was quite a dish. And she's looking at the vegetables,
Speaker 1: at them and then he sort of thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: given that he gets sort of sprinkled onto the soil
Speaker 1: and you know he used to sort of grow. Because
Speaker 1: the whole thing that it's all about this cyclical nature
Speaker 1: of like you know, in The Wicked Man, there's this
Speaker 1: song that they all sing about. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: tree that grows from a seed, and on the tree
Speaker 1: there's this and that. I don't know, I can't remember
Speaker 1: what it goes, but it all it all links back
Speaker 1: to then you know people people grow and then they die,
Speaker 1: and then they go to the soil and more things
Speaker 1: grow from that, and it's sort of this onward cycle.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's that's part of that. When
Speaker 1: she says he was a dish, it was like he
Speaker 1: he went into their food that they're making.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And then of course he says, your your naps are
Speaker 1: very impressive.
Speaker 4: She gets very so her response is so weird. Yes,
Speaker 4: and the delivery of it is even weird. It's so unsettling.
Speaker 4: This is brand new PLATEX lift and separate.
Speaker 2: Wish be one thing from anyone anywhere, but from a
Speaker 2: like I don't know, sixty plus year old woman, and
Speaker 2: it's even weirder in a little tabard.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, have we skipped over a really creepy.
Speaker 3: My turnips of one prizes? You know, it just sounds
Speaker 3: so sinister, and I don't know why it does.
Speaker 1: It's very strange, isn't it. But no, he was talking
Speaker 1: about the vegetables, yes, and she says, well, that's just
Speaker 1: mother Nature working on magic.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Again they're all into this mother Nature indeed.
Speaker 3: But here Alan that turns a bit. He's takes advantage
Speaker 3: of poor old Winnie, yes, and relieves her of her
Speaker 3: keys to the building.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that when he asks, like, you know,
Speaker 1: have you got a key to the head office, and
Speaker 1: she looks as if she's going to say no, and
Speaker 1: then he does this sort of please, like no weedling
Speaker 1: sort of thing. So yeah. He goes and searches mister
Speaker 1: Edward's office, indeed, and he can't find a record of
Speaker 1: a mister King.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: The only thing he finds is this folder of polaroids
Speaker 1: of various penises.
Speaker 3: Yes, which I hope we're going to be covered in
Speaker 3: the podcast. I want to know where that where, how
Speaker 3: they got those where they came from?
Speaker 1: I mean, my note I wrote down was penises on BBC.
Speaker 3: Two Spinning in her Grave.
Speaker 1: Perhaps they're all various crew members.
Speaker 3: I did wonder. I was like, I imagine share like,
Speaker 3: it's one thing for it to be stock images, but
Speaker 3: it's to show that on national TV. Feels a little
Speaker 3: There must.
Speaker 1: Be like there must be like medical stock images or
Speaker 1: something somewhere to just use I guess like from like
Speaker 1: textbooks and things. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I hope they would cover it in the podcast, but
Speaker 3: they didn't. They said that they gave them to Reese
Speaker 3: as like a wrap party present, and they were going
Speaker 3: to make a coffee table walk out of him, as
Speaker 3: if to imply they were of Reese. But I really
Speaker 3: like giving him the evidence that he can keep it
Speaker 3: safe so that doesn't get into the public's hands.
Speaker 1: Oh so I'm confused. Are they Are they supposed to
Speaker 1: be Alan's or I thought they were like previous Well.
Speaker 3: I assume that presumably at least one of them is Alan's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is like a variety of variety.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and some have stars and some don't, of potential
Speaker 3: useful candidates for what they want later.
Speaker 1: Very weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an odd scene. This is a whole odd episode.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: It is in a good way.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was going to say something again about
Speaker 1: that connecting it to command, but I feel like maybe
Speaker 1: that is a bit of a spoiler if people haven't
Speaker 1: seen it, so I won't, right, But yeah, so again again,
Speaker 1: I kind of don't like this bit in that I
Speaker 1: don't understand why he does it this way. But he
Speaker 1: phones up mister Edwards to confront him, and he obviously
Speaker 1: just fobs him off, And I'm like, I wouldn't go
Speaker 1: to him and say, I've you know, there's something going
Speaker 1: on here.
Speaker 3: Give him chance to get rid of evidence and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: go to the authorities, or at least have a plus
Speaker 3: one with you too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know. I know there's some remote school
Speaker 1: and they seem to be not part of the system,
Speaker 1: but they must be. They must have a local authority,
Speaker 1: they must have, you know, people that you would go to.
Speaker 1: I know he calls. He says, they're an independent school,
Speaker 1: but still they're not above the law and they're part
Speaker 1: of Yeah, it's very weird.
Speaker 3: Before I could understand if it was years ago and
Speaker 3: you could claim that they were a little town in
Speaker 3: the valleys that has no contact with the outside world.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 3: They just set up this school and no one knows
Speaker 3: it exists. Yeah, but in modern day, plus the fact
Speaker 3: that Alan found a job there exactly from London. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they must be advertising. Yeah yeah, I don't quite understand
Speaker 3: all of that, but.
Speaker 1: No, I think it feels like it's trying to be
Speaker 1: that sort of quaint, old oldie worldy thing. Yeah, which
Speaker 1: which it doesn't quite add up in the modern world.
Speaker 1: But you have to kind of just forget that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might have been better if it was set
Speaker 3: in like nineteen seventy or something exactly.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, yeah, that would have actually been really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder why they didn't do that because that kind
Speaker 1: of would have made sense.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah that see, it would have been
Speaker 3: any harder. Yeah, And it's also odd that he does
Speaker 3: it on a phone call, Like you say, you think
Speaker 3: you'd have taken someone with you that you trust, so
Speaker 3: you've got a witness for whatever said, Yeah, and do
Speaker 3: it in person.
Speaker 1: Although who does he trust? Well, who can he trust?
Speaker 3: True?
Speaker 1: Nobody at this point I guess, well he does, but
Speaker 1: he shouldn't. Well, yeah, because you know, he's relocated from
Speaker 1: London on his own.
Speaker 3: He's only a few months here and he would have
Speaker 3: made friends or anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's not having a very happy time. No,
Speaker 1: it's all right, it'll be overseon. Yeah. So he goes
Speaker 1: back into his classroom and the children say they want
Speaker 1: to show him their assembly, and I'm like, so they
Speaker 1: have they put this together without him themselves.
Speaker 3: They're very entrepreneurial.
Speaker 1: When if they rehearse this in their.
Speaker 3: Fifteen minute break when they were running around outside, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's not realistic in the slices. No, although I guess
Speaker 1: it's something they've done before. It's the same assembly in reality.
Speaker 3: Yes, presumably this is the same assembly.
Speaker 1: And mister Edwards probably goes through it with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but after school lessons on it or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, spit weird.
Speaker 3: I do like that. It starts out quite cute though,
Speaker 3: and like, yeah, Alan's actually quite impressed with them.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's a nice you know, it is
Speaker 1: believable for what it is. Yeah. Yeah, you know the
Speaker 1: person in the planet Earth gets the plastic cup chucked
Speaker 1: at them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little cry.
Speaker 1: And oh are you what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it reminds you. Do you ever watch Big Factwords
Speaker 3: of the Year. No, Well, they have a question every
Speaker 3: year where they always go to the same primary school
Speaker 3: and they get them to act out something that happened
Speaker 3: in the news that year, right, and it's always done
Speaker 3: exactly like this. Okay, it's really good.
Speaker 1: And then he's not very happy when they make a
Speaker 1: joke about killing someone and recycling him. I thought it
Speaker 1: was quite funny, actually lighting up a bit mister. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's appropriate.
Speaker 3: This is where he draws the line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gone on. So yeah, it discovers that they've
Speaker 1: super glued him to the chair.
Speaker 3: M ugh, not good.
Speaker 1: No, that shot when you see his arm and the
Speaker 1: skin like, it's yeah, oh that looks painful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that wouldn't be pleasant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think first time I watched it, part
Speaker 1: of me was like, well, you know, couldn't he just
Speaker 1: rip himself off it? But I'm like, god, no, if
Speaker 1: you tried, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like he probably you would try to later
Speaker 3: on when he works out what's going on, how serious
Speaker 3: this is?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but at what point do you, like, if this
Speaker 3: was really happening, would you genuinely believe it? Would you
Speaker 3: think it was a joke, like some elaborate prank.
Speaker 1: Oh, you would wouldn't you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't genuinely think this group of kids are
Speaker 3: going to kill you. So are you really going to
Speaker 3: rip all the skin off your arms for what you
Speaker 3: think what must be screaming in your head is a prank?
Speaker 1: Well, I think you could. When it's he's just his
Speaker 1: arms are glued to the chair, I think you could
Speaker 1: potentially think it's a tasteless prank. But I think when
Speaker 1: it crosses today gluing his lips shut, I think that's
Speaker 1: when you think, oh, actually this is serious, some serious
Speaker 1: shit's happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The masks, Yeah, I do not like the masks. They're creepy,
Speaker 2: so creepy do not like?
Speaker 3: Do not agree with?
Speaker 1: I like the you know, the musical instruments and the singing.
Speaker 1: Always like when when you get that sort of creepy
Speaker 1: juxtaposition between the cheery music and the sinister what's going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does take it to a different level, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: You can hear the recorders in the background. That's so
Speaker 1: primary school.
Speaker 2: Apparently you can actually do recorder to like level eight
Speaker 2: or whatever as a proper instrument.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, I want to hear it.
Speaker 3: I want to hear someone actually perform recorder properly, Okay, look.
Speaker 1: It up on YouTube. It's because it was like quite
Speaker 1: a popular instrument in like, you know, the sort of
Speaker 1: Baroque period and stuff. So like when you listen to
Speaker 1: like people playing music from that, you get harpsichords and
Speaker 1: all that, and you get recorders like Virtuoso recorder. It's
Speaker 1: just it's got a bad reputation these days because people
Speaker 1: learn it when they're like six, and it sounds awful
Speaker 1: and squeaky. So yeah, their assembly starts to take on
Speaker 1: a different tone just a little bit. They start going
Speaker 1: on about the Earth goddess and life and death and
Speaker 1: as you mentioned earlier, Peru children yes, sacrifice to the
Speaker 1: gods and now apparently the children want to sacrifice an adult.
Speaker 3: M m. But it's all okay, stread was is there?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: I love that bit. It's a classic, isn't it classics? Yes,
Speaker 1: the day is saved and then sister, yes, I like
Speaker 1: that bit when you still think he's going to save
Speaker 1: the day and one of the children goes towards him
Speaker 1: with that whatever it is, and you think he's about
Speaker 1: to be attack and then suddenly he's like my favorite bit,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Because he has just been the comic relief for most
Speaker 3: of the episode. And yeah, yeah, he's in on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah scary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was, Like I said earlier, it was a
Speaker 3: initially confused as to why he was so angry at
Speaker 3: them for already starting. But like I say, I imagine
Speaker 3: it was meant to be maybe next week and in
Speaker 3: front of the school, and it would have been a
Speaker 3: big whole thing. But they've started early. Yeah, and I
Speaker 3: guess we just have to carry on with it now.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, the explanation of the whole penis picture
Speaker 1: thing is that he needed to be uncircumcised.
Speaker 3: To be as nature intended.
Speaker 1: As nature intended apparently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I want to know what happens if he
Speaker 3: wasn't that they have to just find a new teacher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose.
Speaker 3: He's now safe and he just has to carry on
Speaker 3: teaching and some other Maybe it's just that every year
Speaker 3: they get some new teachers, and this class just happened
Speaker 3: to two years in a row, get a teacher that
Speaker 3: was acceptable to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, although well I don't want to delve into yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll accept that. Yeah, I'm just thinking about the you know,
Speaker 1: the country that we live in in the kind of
Speaker 1: what's normal. You know, you'd think that there would be
Speaker 1: quite a lot of teachers that would be acceptable to
Speaker 1: their plan.
Speaker 3: Odds are likely. Yeah, yes, I'm.
Speaker 1: Trying to be delicate, but yeah it's interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, obviously it's an arbitrary requirement, but it's just
Speaker 3: it's needed to make the red herring earlier in the
Speaker 3: episode look more convincing. Yes, it's a thing that lines
Speaker 3: up with you know, he might be a creepy man
Speaker 3: sort of situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really hits Allen when the big mask comes out,
Speaker 3: which is lovely. It's beautifully made. Oh yeah, it's fantastic.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't want to wear it, but it's nice. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we get some more singing mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And when the queen Winnie what what?
Speaker 3: What the fuck is she wearing.
Speaker 2: The weird little dollhead thing and is it meant to
Speaker 2: be a colorflower or what?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's so creepy, Like if this room wasn't so brightly lit,
Speaker 3: this scene would be terrified. I mean it's already.
Speaker 1: Creepy, already is terrifying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say it's creepy, but it would go to
Speaker 3: downright terrifying if it was at night throwing some candles
Speaker 3: and yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh yeah, yeah, you get that brilliant you know,
Speaker 1: that final moment of comedy where she just leans in
Speaker 1: and I think, does she say you'll do my turnips
Speaker 1: the world are good or something like that, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I guess you know, from their point of view, they
Speaker 1: don't think they're doing anything evil or wrong. They think
Speaker 1: they think it's the right thing. They just think it's
Speaker 1: the natural way of things. And they do, you know,
Speaker 1: going off the way things went in The Wicked Man.
Speaker 1: It's like they don't see it as death that are
Speaker 1: the way that we do, right, They see it as
Speaker 1: you know, they go on, the life force goes on
Speaker 1: and into the rest of nature.
Speaker 3: So exactly. Yeah, yeah, I just love that. It's obviously
Speaker 3: such a grim thing that's happening. And we just got
Speaker 3: this fellow of our music playing as we go to
Speaker 3: the credits.
Speaker 1: It's so good. Yeah, And how they sort of they
Speaker 1: lead him, they lead him outside, don't they they go?
Speaker 1: I think they go off outside, And then we just
Speaker 1: cut to the art from the display board, just sort
Speaker 1: of showing what what's awaiting him.
Speaker 3: It's got in a tree. Yeah apparently. Yeah, I want
Speaker 3: the CSI episode that's set in this little town years later.
Speaker 3: So they're doing a person every year. Yeah, and you're
Speaker 3: expecting kids to keep this secret.
Speaker 1: That's the thing is how does it stay a secret?
Speaker 3: I don't know. It must be it must be just
Speaker 3: that whole town. That's just this is what they are.
Speaker 1: And people really don't leave.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, even the beginning when he says about how
Speaker 3: this lesson is going to be in English and like
Speaker 3: they've grown and like it's really uncommon for people not
Speaker 3: to really speak English in Wales.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure there.
Speaker 3: Are plenty of there are plenty of people that do
Speaker 3: speak effluently.
Speaker 1: But yeah, for it to be for English to be
Speaker 1: such a sort of oh no, you know, yeah, so.
Speaker 3: They probably are just really cut off. And obviously, by
Speaker 3: the requirements of the episode, we can't leave the classroom
Speaker 3: really like the corridor and the like that sort of
Speaker 3: immediate area, so you can't see what the town's like.
Speaker 3: But it probably is some weird, little, you know, cut off,
Speaker 3: disconnected village and they're just shipping a new person every year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think, I think, Yeah, I know, we've
Speaker 1: we've We've discussed it, and there are possibilities. But I
Speaker 1: think that's my most confusing thing is that, like, what
Speaker 1: is going on with these other classes and other teachers,
Speaker 1: and you know they all in on it? Are they
Speaker 1: okay about it? And I guess they must be, but
Speaker 1: I guess they have to be. But if there's nice classes,
Speaker 1: that means they've got you know, another eight teachers at
Speaker 1: least at least. Yeah, have they all grown up in
Speaker 1: this village as well?
Speaker 3: I would assume so, But like there's twelve did we
Speaker 3: say twelve kids in this classroom? Yeah, So, like that's
Speaker 3: not a tiny school if you've got to have at
Speaker 3: least at least nine classrooms. No, it's over one hundred students,
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's got to be a sizable town before
Speaker 3: you get to like offshoot villages to feed into it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then the secret just becomes so much harder to
Speaker 3: keep exactly.
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, you have
Speaker 1: to just accept the reason it's class nine is because
Speaker 1: it has to be.
Speaker 3: It has to be. Yeah, class is one through eight
Speaker 3: burnt down. It is just winning mister Edwards and Allen
Speaker 3: running this school at this point. Yeah, I think it
Speaker 3: would have been interesting. Obviously you've only got twenty something minutes,
Speaker 3: but it would be an interesting extra aspect of the episode,
Speaker 3: if of allan questioning where the other teachers are or
Speaker 3: like something to that effect, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you think he would, but you know, I
Speaker 1: mean we never see him in the staff for him,
Speaker 1: like hanging out with teachers and stuff.
Speaker 3: You could have had another teacher as well that isy
Speaker 3: on it and he talks.
Speaker 1: To Yes about it, and that's true.
Speaker 3: That would have explained it more that, like, you know,
Speaker 3: this is a big thing, like it it's not just
Speaker 3: the head teacher that's running this. Yeah, but I suppose
Speaker 3: that's what when he does as well, I guess, but exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if it was if we had more time,
Speaker 1: if it was longer, yeah, it would have been nice
Speaker 1: to have that. But yeah, I guess there just wasn't time.
Speaker 3: I guess if you want more time, you just watched
Speaker 3: the work of Man.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, any listeners you've not seen it, I
Speaker 1: do recommend it having I think I will watch actually
Speaker 1: watched it freshly recently. Yeah. It's weird but good.
Speaker 3: The few clips I've seen look very weird.
Speaker 1: So it's time to rate the episode it is, And
Speaker 1: actually I haven't written anything down this week, so we're
Speaker 1: going in blind.
Speaker 3: Oh what do I want? I think it is a
Speaker 3: really good one, like I do. I know we've said
Speaker 3: plenty of criticisms. Yeah, but I don't think they detract
Speaker 3: from it enough for me to really knock it down much.
Speaker 1: No, I agree.
Speaker 3: I think I want to give it an eight. Okay,
Speaker 3: I do really like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm yeah, I was. I was just thinking about
Speaker 1: just now. I's just toying up between the seven and
Speaker 1: an eight.
Speaker 3: I wanted to go seven point five really yeah, maybe
Speaker 3: a bit much, but seven doesn't feel enough.
Speaker 1: Possibly, But then I'm looking back at some other eights
Speaker 1: I've given things, and actually, yeah, that doesn't feel too wrong.
Speaker 1: I think I'll also go an eight. Yeah yeah, cool,
Speaker 1: there we go.
Speaker 3: Now, big question time.
Speaker 1: Okay, did you.
Speaker 3: Stop the hair?
Speaker 1: Well? I wasn't looking for it. Okay, so no, I
Speaker 1: haven't spotted it. But as I sometimes do, I have
Speaker 1: some guesses, right, well, at least I guess and my
Speaker 1: immediate if it was me, if I was doing this episode,
Speaker 1: I was thinking it's probably in a child's painting or
Speaker 1: something on a wall, or like a cutout on a
Speaker 1: display or something. I was I was thinking, is it
Speaker 1: not the actual hair ornament?
Speaker 3: It is a physical hair this week? Is the actual ornament?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm guessing it's in the head study then it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So as you're looking, so you've got the
Speaker 3: door sort of on the left and the fan cabot
Speaker 3: on the right. It's kind of on a table in
Speaker 3: the middle with like a shield and some like awards
Speaker 3: and things.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 3: It's kind of where I thought it probably would be.
Speaker 3: I hoped it would be because if it was in
Speaker 3: that classroom I was never going to find.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you see what I mean, Like when you
Speaker 1: did that they did the fancy the shampoo bottle in
Speaker 1: the hotel, like it's that would have been quite cool
Speaker 1: to have like a like a you know, like a
Speaker 1: paper cutout of a hair or something on the display
Speaker 1: board or something.
Speaker 3: I could see that definitely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you spot our hair listeners.
Speaker 3: Did you? Well, I'll tell you where it was next week.
Speaker 3: We will when we were back with nine line Cat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I seem to have forgotten a lot about.
Speaker 1: I have. I have a vague idea of it, but same, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to revisit before we go. I did
Speaker 1: want to share a nice comment that we got on
Speaker 1: TikTok this week. This one comes from a user called
Speaker 1: play Cards, who says, discovered in sudden number nine after
Speaker 1: watching Taskmaster and now slowly catching up on pasteps. Your
Speaker 1: podcast is such a great companion piece, so erudite and
Speaker 1: funny and educates me and all the references I missed.
Speaker 3: Ah huh, yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. You know, we try, we try.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know if it was working.
Speaker 1: But yeah, glad you enjoying.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you very much. But yes, we'll be back
Speaker 1: next week.
Speaker 3: We will.
Speaker 1: But until then, it's time to close the door on
Speaker 1: number nine.
Speaker 3: Been never leave, do you.
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