WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:02.680 Howdy folks, your host Double Jay back here for another 2 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:07.719 Fridays here in Operation GCD. Uh and what Fridays would 3 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:09.880 not be complete without a introduction from my. 4 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:12.400 Old pal Buffalo Jared Ravisa. 5 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:15.320 The mind controlled assassin that may or may not be 6 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:20.640 sitting inside the Bridgewater State Hospital anyhow. Once again, folks, 7 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:24.440 welcome back from our Fridays. JJ Vancier, host of Operation 8 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:30.199 GCD and perhaps more notably not the Vice President. Got 9 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:32.960 a real barn burner here, folks. Tonight, got my guest 10 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:35.679 rider Lee, host of Raised by Giants. How you doing, sir? 11 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:39.200 What's going on? JJ? Is good to see your brother, 12 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:41.119 and I'm ready to get this show on the road. 13 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:41.320 Bro. 14 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:44.439 I got my glasses, I got my sunglasses. We gotta 15 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:47.000 be matching, Bro, We're gonna get this thing rocking, dude. 16 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:47.399 I'm ready. 17 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:48.880 Now we do it here. You got you got, you 18 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:51.320 gotta keep it keep it cool here on Fridays. You 19 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:52.840 know what I mean, You gotta you gotta be styling 20 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:55.000 with some I don't know the Blue Blockers were styling 21 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:57.719 since the eighties, but nonetheless that's what we do here. 22 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:00.759 I like your style, sir, A lot of your show 23 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:02.920 there earlier is obviously not your first time here on 24 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:05.879 Operation GCD. But I was listening to your show with 25 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:08.760 Julia from Cosmic Peachroler that was that was some good stuff. 26 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:12.040 But would you please introduce any of the other work 27 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:14.280 you're working on right now? I know you're always on 28 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:18.439 something new with it JFK or Alien Ancient Alien Cargo 29 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:21.159 cult business or Virginia Gufrey business. 30 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.040 You got your hands a lot of stuff. 31 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:26.000 There, bro, I'm doing it all. I'm currently working on 32 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:30.439 a new documentary about the psychic spy program by the 33 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:35.040 DA and Army Intelligence, and that's gonna that's in the 34 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:39.239 works right now. I'm almost finished completing writing that, so 35 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:41.920 I'll be filming that here really soon. But if you'd 36 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:45.599 like to check out my other documentaries JFK X Solving 37 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:49.200 the Crime of the Century on Amazon Prime and two 38 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:55.719 B and A Clockwork Shining my latest documentary, Clockwork Shining, 39 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:59.799 Kubrick's Odyssey three, which is also on Amazon Prime and 40 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:03.560 to be So yeah, I'm always getting into these UFOs 41 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:07.959 and stuff. Bro. Have you seen this new report, this 42 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:11.520 New New York Post article about aliens? 43 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:15.800 Stephen green Street? Was he involved in that. 44 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:21.520 Mcwest? But I think Stephen might have also Stephen green 45 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:27.240 Street and mcwest have always been trying to blow the 46 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:31.439 lid on the whole freaking UFO and alien psy office 47 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:35.759 been going on. But yeah, the latest article is insanity. 48 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:39.960 It's basically everything that I've been seeing for years, that 49 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:44.360 all the UFOs and alien stuff is all cover up 50 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:51.680 for advanced military technology, which is what I've been seeing 51 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:56.840 for a long time now. In this article pretty much 52 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:01.159 confirms it. I'm gona try and pull it up here 53 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:02.719 because it's just incredible. 54 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:04.840 Yeah. I mean, I know Stephen greens for he does 55 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:05.919 a lot of work in this area. 56 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.759 Like you said, he kind of blows up the spots 57 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:11.960 of these alien these these alien narratives and UFO narratives. 58 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:14.719 I know, he's an interesting character because he's a former Mormon, 59 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:17.639 you know, Mormon missionary too, you know, so that got 60 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:20.199 him access into Skinwalker Ranch. I think through those kind 61 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:23.000 of you know, those relations is that's a Mormon owned 62 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:26.159 operation and Mormon run operation, and his I love this 63 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:29.520 series there on the Skinwalker Ranch because you know, he's 64 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:31.759 showing that they're just bullshitting and numerous sentstances. 65 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:36.919 Yep. So this article right here in New York post 66 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:42.639 Pentagon secretly planted Area fifty one UFO conspiracy theory to 67 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:46.560 high classified weapons program. Bombshell report some of the most 68 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:51.120 prevalent UFO conspiracy theories, including about aliens being housed at 69 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:54.240 Area fifty one in Nevada, was fueled by the Pentagon 70 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:58.960 in an attempt to provide a cover for secret weapons programs. 71 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:01.560 According to a bombs report, which this is what I've 72 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:05.759 been saying for years now. I did all this research, 73 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:08.520 I knew all about this, and everyone was like, you're 74 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:10.759 a fed. You're trying to cover up the truth of 75 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:14.639 extraterrestrial as well. This is just confirmation here. A review 76 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.000 by the Department of Defense found that the nineteen eighties 77 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:21.439 Air Force colonel visited in Nevada bar near Area fifty 78 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:25.480 one and gave the owner fabricated photos of flying saucers 79 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:29.639 near the secret government base. According to two thousand and 80 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:34.639 twenty four report by The Wall Street Journal, the incidents 81 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:41.120 renewed local flavor over UFO, with a now retired colonel 82 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:44.120 convesting to Pentagon investigators that he was on an official 83 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:50.120 mission to spread disinformation and hide the true purpose of 84 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:52.879 the site where the government is testing never before seen 85 00:04:53.120 --> 00:05:00.839 stealth warplane, the F one seventeen night Hawk. Okay, but 86 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:04.480 that one I know that yet, that's not all bro 87 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:08.079 That's that's that's just the tip of the freaking iceberg 88 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:11.199 on this entire thing. So I don't want to read 89 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:15.199 this entire article, but it goes into detail about and 90 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:19.480 I did a show on this, and there's a video 91 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:25.240 of the director of ARROW talking with Mick West about 92 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:30.560 all this this these conspiracy theories to cover up advanced 93 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:33.639 military technology. Sean ka Patrick, the first director of the 94 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:37.600 All Domain anominally Resolution Office ARROW, was a mantask by 95 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:42.079 the government to dissect countless UFOs theories in twenty twenty two, 96 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:46.600 as his office probe decades of documents, memos, and messages 97 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:54.160 across the Defense Intelligence Agency, and he he found that 98 00:05:54.360 --> 00:06:02.000 several conspiracy theories circled back to the Pentagon. It's so they, 99 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:06.879 the Pentagon and the government are the originator of all 100 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:10.879 these UFO and alien conspiracy theories, which does not want 101 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:13.399 to figure out. Whenever you go back and your research 102 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:17.800 through the Paul Bennowitz case, you'll realize that everything. 103 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:19.319 That was gonna say writer was the Paul Bennwitz case. 104 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:21.600 Because you're describing them giving them fake photographs. I mean, 105 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:23.439 that's essentially the same playbook, right. 106 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:26.800 This one's wild right here. You're gonna appreciate this. You're 107 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:31.160 gonna appreciate this. In one instance, Kirkpatrick's team found that 108 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:38.600 the Air Force hazed members with briefings, including showing them 109 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:43.360 fake Yankee Blue unit that purported investigating alien aircraft. So 110 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:49.120 they're literally showing these brand new Air Force recruits fake 111 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:54.639 fake photos of UFOs. Okay, the briefings came with a 112 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:57.639 direct order never to mention the details to anyone, with 113 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:01.720 many of the targets of the frank never learning that 114 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:03.040 it was all a ruse. 115 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:06.560 It's a great way to answer this information from the 116 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:07.639 inside there, right. 117 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:10.480 That's the way that it's done. That's the way that 118 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:10.920 it's done. 119 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:14.639 You know this, I know this. They just they this 120 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:17.439 is they're calling it a hazing ritual. Right, But if 121 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:21.040 you don't tell the people that you're showing these fake 122 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:25.560 UFO photos to, then they're going to continue to believe 123 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:28.600 that it is real. Just like whenever they say, sh 124 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:32.079 you can't speak about this. You're a man of you're 125 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:34.160 a man of God. Well they wouldn't say God, but 126 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:36.959 you want to protect the secrets of the United States. 127 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:39.240 So this is exactly what they did with Paul Bennowitz. 128 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:42.680 It's the exact same tactic. But they're doing this on 129 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:46.560 a mass scale, a huge scale, and they've been doing 130 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:51.360 it for decades. They just ended doing that supposed hazing 131 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:57.279 ritual right here in twenty twenty three. They've been doing 132 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:00.560 that for decades, and all the people that it's probably 133 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:05.680 seen those it doesn't say the exact units. I'm sure 134 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:08.759 if you got the real memo, I bet that there's 135 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.800 going to be another memo coming out from that's going 136 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:14.040 to give a detailed explanation of all this. They already 137 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:17.639 dropped the one memo where they basically said that what 138 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:21.360 everybody has been seeing, they're misidentifying it, or its advanced 139 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:25.439 military technology or its drones that came out last year 140 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:28.120 and I did a whole show on it as well. 141 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:36.279 So they're they're they're giving these Air Force recruits fake briefings, okay, 142 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:40.360 and then they just let them speculate on the whole thing. 143 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:46.960 And then those Air Force personnel go on believing that 144 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:50.799 they just got shown some top secret reverse engineered alien 145 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:52.399 extraterrestrial craft. 146 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:56.000 Yeah, and then they they. 147 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:59.919 Was this was started during the development of the F 148 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:03.440 one seventeen program. The specific one. 149 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:07.080 Was, Yes, the one that they're talking about that was like, dude, that. 150 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:08.639 Was like nineteen eighty dude. 151 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:11.720 Yeah, So they've been doing this since nineteen eighty. They 152 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:13.720 just recently stopped doing it twenty. 153 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:14.840 Three years of that. Huh. 154 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:18.120 Poor, because I don't mean, I didn't want to say 155 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:19.480 it was around nineteen. I'm just saying the F one 156 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:22.200 is seventeen eighty new. I mean, it was all when 157 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:24.000 I when I uh, when I used to guard it, 158 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:26.559 you know, twenty twenty two years ago. 159 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:27.679 It was the last time I guarded in the F 160 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:28.879 one is seventeen. 161 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:35.840 And not saying anything at all, literally does everything that 162 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:38.919 you need to know. Okay, whenever you show somebody something 163 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:40.960 and then you don't tell them that it's fake or real, 164 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:43.919 and then you just let them run with speculation, it's 165 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:46.159 snowballs into something that it was never meant to be, 166 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:49.759 which is the goal of these people to do so. 167 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:53.279 Kirkpatrick also found that the government deliberately left people in 168 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:58.039 the dark when they witnessed secret military projects. Okay. According 169 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.919 to the WSJ, okay, former Air Force Captain was one 170 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:04.720 of those people. Salas claims he witnessed the UFO to 171 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:07.559 send over a nuclear missile testing site in Montana in 172 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:09.200 nineteen sixty seven. 173 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:11.600 You know all about. 174 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:14.840 Yeah, you know all about this. You were there, you're 175 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:20.000 stationar okay. During the event, a flashing light was able 176 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:23.639 to disable all ten nuclear missiles at the bunker, along 177 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:26.759 with electrical systems. He was ordered to never discuss what 178 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:30.399 he saw with Sallas, maintaining that what he witnessed was 179 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:35.960 alien visitors chiming in on the Cold War. Kirkpatrick's team, however, 180 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:39.080 discovered the Salas was never told that what he actually 181 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:43.840 saw was a test of an electro magnetic pulse to 182 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:47.039 test to see if American silos could withstand the radiation 183 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:51.879 of atomic weapons and retaliate if Soviet Union ever attacked first. 184 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:55.320 There it is, that's all that, that's it. 185 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:57.120 That makes a lot of sense to me, And that 186 00:10:57.120 --> 00:10:58.399 makes a lot of sense to me. And just like 187 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.759 the way you're describing this witness report from Sallus, he 188 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:03.799 could have the same the same way I told you 189 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:06.759 about the story, how I encountered a similar circumstance and 190 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:10.240 it was an honor. About July eighth, of two thousand 191 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:12.799 and one where I was called in to respond to 192 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:16.240 an incident they had transpired in the missile field, all 193 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:20.639 these missile silos that were spread across nearly twenty four 194 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:23.320 thousand square miles of Montana at the time, and we 195 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:24.679 got I got to the armory to get all, you know, 196 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:25.399 to get geared up. 197 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:27.440 We never left the armory. 198 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.559 We were standing by there and they're like, well, you know, 199 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:32.240 stand down, stand down, and you know, went to a 200 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:32.759 briefing room. 201 00:11:32.799 --> 00:11:34.240 They're like, oh, this happen. 202 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:37.519 This happened some unidentified aircraft whoever, you know, one of 203 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:41.440 the further away you know, missile complexes from the base, 204 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:43.159 you know, because I gain it's a huge place, you know, 205 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:45.919 huge complex and you know, fairly remote area, is what 206 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:48.679 I'm saying. And you know, apparently did the same thing, right, 207 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:50.639 So what if it was this the same program, right, 208 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:52.559 what if they did you know, what if they didn't. 209 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:53.720 They didn't show us pictures or anything. 210 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:55.840 But I'm saying, like the program you're describing it, I 211 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:58.000 feel like the Salas guy went to the same base, 212 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:01.679 you know, a couple of decades its prior, right, and 213 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:04.519 uh that into a briefing and just you know, showed 214 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:07.399 them some shit, you know, and infer some shit right. 215 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:12.320 Exactly with the test failing, officials decided that it was 216 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:17.679 best no one knew of the top secret vulnerability to 217 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:21.720 the silos, so Solace and other witnesses were intentionally left 218 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:29.879 in the dark to make their own conclusions. Yeah, exactly 219 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:32.279 here here, we'll show you this really strange thing. We'll 220 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:34.120 not tell you exactly what it is, even though we 221 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:36.039 know what it is, and we'll let your mind wander 222 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:38.840 off in whatever direction. And you don't know about this technology, 223 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:41.399 so therefore you're going to think that it's et extraterrestrial 224 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:43.919 craft when it is really our own top secret military craft. 225 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:47.080 The d ODEA has acknowledged and not everything has been 226 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:50.559 made public about the Arrows discoveries, but the military claims 227 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:52.840 that will be more transparent, and his follow up reports 228 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:55.879 scheduled for later this year. So they are doing a 229 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:58.720 follow up report, and you be damn sure that I'm 230 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:01.279 going to be doing a show on it later this year. 231 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:04.320 The Department is committed to releasing a second volume of 232 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:07.919 the Historical Record Report to include Arrows findings on reports 233 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:13.000 of potential pranks and and other materials. The DoD said 234 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:16.799 in a statement, So there you go that just the 235 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:18.840 whole lid on the UFO thing is over. 236 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:19.759 Dude, it's over. 237 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:22.840 So is this like a reverse disclosure like their disclosing shit, 238 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:24.360 but kind of like it's not aliens. We've just been 239 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:26.240 you know, reverse engineering stuff. We're kind of doing this 240 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:31.320 reverse disclosure right now too. Yeah, reverse engineering. You know, 241 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:33.360 there's no alien aircraft I'm saying, but they're doing like 242 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:36.080 on that same kind of concept. They've taken this concept 243 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:38.080 of disclosure and they're kind of reversing it and letting 244 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:38.799 folks know about it. 245 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:39.120 Right. 246 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:44.080 Well, these people have to do their due diligence, and 247 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:49.759 the military and the Air Force have never said that 248 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:56.120 extraterrestrials or aliens exist. Okay. After every single incident, there's 249 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:58.399 always an Air Force commander or somebody that's in the 250 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.080 Air Force that comes out and says, we have no 251 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:06.080 reason to believe that this is of this event was 252 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:09.759 of extraterrestrial origin. We have no reason to believe that 253 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.919 this is aliens. Okay, So if it's not. 254 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.080 Aliens, alternate disclosure. 255 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:20.919 That only leaves one other option. Hey, that only leaves 256 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:26.559 you one other thing. It is humans. It's human's craft. Okay, 257 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:29.320 they've been since the freaking fifties. 258 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:32.679 Bro it seems like we're what I was getting at before. 259 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:33.919 I guess in the long winded ways. 260 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:37.320 It seems like they're trying to reverse engineer the alien 261 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:40.080 myths right now, right by these kind of disclosures, right, 262 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:40.919 So it's a different. 263 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:45.000 But people, people aren't going to listen this report in 264 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:47.840 this news article is not going to change anything because 265 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:50.480 the people that already believe, we're going to continue to 266 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:53.519 believe no matter what. It's not going to change jack shit. 267 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:58.960 I don't immediately no hear the idealists right that there's 268 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:01.240 are or this is their religion. 269 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:06.240 Right there's even people listening in this chant right now 270 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:09.440 that doesn't believe this. Okay, this isn't going to change 271 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:14.919 anybody's minds that already believe it. But I've already done 272 00:15:14.960 --> 00:15:17.240 the research. I've already done the research through all the 273 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:21.240 UFO cults. I've already researched the initial reports of any 274 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:24.799 UFOs ever seen in the United States with Kenneth Arnold. 275 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:28.000 I've researched to Paul Benningwood's case, I know, the Betty 276 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:30.799 and Barney Hill case. I know, the Travis Walden case, 277 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:36.639 and all of these things are all military stuff. They're 278 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:39.039 all the military. That's all the. 279 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:44.159 Radiation of those two goings you just mentioned the Betty 280 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:46.080 and Barney Hill and the Travis Walton. 281 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:50.120 Well, so that would be some of the first they 282 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:52.879 figured out, so they would be having radiation coming off 283 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:55.320 of them. I mean, that's what the airships in the 284 00:15:55.559 --> 00:16:01.000 late eighteen hundreds were using. That's what the Nazis were using. Radiation. 285 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:05.399 Spinning mercury put off a bunch of radiation. That's what 286 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:09.840 the Glauca Bell technology was putting off, was red spinning mercury, 287 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:12.639 which then calls a bunch of radiation, and when people 288 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:15.200 would get around it, they would get super sick. And 289 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:17.240 then that also brings in the question like the Arc 290 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:20.519 of the Covenant too, right, the Arc of the Covenant 291 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:25.159 seems like it was also some sort of actually like 292 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:28.039 not extra creusture, but some sort of technology that would 293 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:31.720 give off radiation. Six people would just die whenever they 294 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:33.759 got around got around the Arc of the Covenant. 295 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:37.960 So it's like, now it's in Donald Trump's living room, right, 296 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:41.200 did you see. 297 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:43.639 That he had that a replica replica of it. I 298 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:45.720 guess right down there in Marlogue for a while. 299 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:51.919 Some people report that it's in a church and I 300 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:54.879 can't remember the Yeah, I think I think it's one 301 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:58.559 on the now. Yeah, that's underneath the church that's guarded 302 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:01.320 by night. 303 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:05.440 Thought, what about this thought on these on this radiation factor. 304 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:07.400 What if it's both things. What if it is these 305 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:10.519 experimental craft and they're also doing experiments on folks with 306 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:12.000 radiation stuff. 307 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:16.039 Yeah, I mean we know that they do experiments like 308 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:17.200 that all the time. 309 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:21.000 Like the government loves radiation experiments. 310 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:23.359 You have been doing them since Like, I mean, look 311 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:24.119 at plumb Island. 312 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:28.720 Bro Well, look at that infamous press conference from the 313 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:31.519 nineties where old slick willy Bill Clinton himself had to 314 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:35.240 go on TV and apologize for some reason for rate 315 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:39.640 for government mk ulture program. Right, I was specifically under 316 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:41.559 the mk ltra, you know umbrella, but it was an 317 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:44.680 m kilt like program where they were doing experiments on 318 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:47.519 mentally handicapped children with radiation. 319 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:49.759 Was that in New York? 320 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:53.519 I'll pulled up here. I don't recall it was the 321 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:54.319 press conference he gave. 322 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:55.839 I'll see if I can find that copy too, because 323 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:59.279 he looks nervous, you know, for old slick Will. 324 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:00.799 He wouldn't been too slick that day. 325 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:04.680 Well, the whole Plumb Island thing is like all like 326 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:09.920 eugenics and like experimental Jesus and viruses and like all 327 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:12.359 kinds of stuff. And it's so weird, like we're like 328 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:14.480 looking at China as like all this stuff. But we've 329 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:18.359 been doing experiments on Plumb Island for freaking decades. 330 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:19.119 Bro big time. 331 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:22.319 That's where it supposedly where lime comes from, right, because 332 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:27.680 it's right across from Lime, Connecticut, I mean life disease, right, 333 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:32.920 And that's where this monster came from, the Montaku Monster. 334 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:36.279 So I was out in Long Island, Montak, Long Island 335 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:38.319 when this thing landed on the beach that weekend in 336 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:43.000 July of two thousand and eight. I think I was 337 00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:47.279 out there doing some fishing off the out there, and 338 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:49.039 after it came in from the boat, went to get 339 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:52.440 some lunch and whatnot, and everyone was talking about this 340 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:55.640 damn monster. So and then I no one there thought 341 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:57.319 it was a corruptive of any sort of Everyone was 342 00:18:57.319 --> 00:18:59.359 talking Plumb Island. I had never heard of Plumb Island 343 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:00.839 until that, until that incident. 344 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:07.240 Yeah, a couple of coffee. I'm not saying that extraterrestrials 345 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:12.759 don't exist. I'm saying that we that there's no extraterrestrials here. 346 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:16.279 I'm not saying that nowhere else in the universe is 347 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:19.759 populated by anything. I'm saying that we have no proof 348 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:24.680 they have ever been here or that they have ever visited. 349 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:27.880 And again, and I'm not saying that UFOs aren't real either. 350 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:31.920 That's some of the things that people get misconstrued by. 351 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:34.319 You know, when I talk about this stuff, they're like, oh, well, 352 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:37.039 that means that UFOs aren't real. Well, if you're relating 353 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:43.759 UFOs to being driven and operated by extraterrestrials, then that 354 00:19:43.799 --> 00:19:49.039 would be correct. But that doesn't mean that UFOs aren't real. 355 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.240 They are real. They're just not extraterrestrials. 356 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:53.400 They're just not y. 357 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:57.960 I think the people that run this world they want 358 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:00.759 everyone else to believe in their beliefs system of these 359 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:04.039 ancient alien cargo cold belief systems. So it is easy 360 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:07.160 for folks to subscribe, I think, to these these concepts 361 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:11.279 and ideals, especially when we have entire television networks like 362 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:14.000 the History Channel, which may as well be called the 363 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:15.799 Ancient Alien Cargo cult Channel. 364 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:18.480 You know what. 365 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:22.839 I mean, that's right, and it does and it doesn't 366 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:25.519 go away. What season are they on of Ancient Aliens? Now? 367 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:27.839 What are they only twenty fifth season or something? 368 00:20:28.079 --> 00:20:30.519 Dude, They're they're getting their bang for their buck out 369 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:32.839 of that program. But again, it's it's the agenda, right, 370 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:34.759 I mean, it's what these folks believe in. I mean, 371 00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:38.920 from the folks that are in and around the JFK 372 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:43.119 situation that you've highlighted in JFKX, there is got a 373 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:45.640 lot more questions they need answer than just some files 374 00:20:45.640 --> 00:20:51.279 sitting in some cabinet in DC. Right, And the Ancient 375 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:54.240 Alien cargo cultists are involved in that. They're involved in that, 376 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:56.480 they're involved in their family, and all the families are 377 00:20:56.480 --> 00:20:59.119 involved in that. So I actually I tend to argue 378 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:02.079 that it when we're dealing with these, you know, major 379 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:06.200 para political scandals, is some sort of internal family feud 380 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:08.799 of sorts, because all these folks are related to a 381 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:14.039 certain degree, and this family feud is all revolving Chilian 382 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:18.200 cargo cultists, in my opinion, and their their goals and 383 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:21.759 their the ends that they seek to achieve or are 384 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:24.680 not much like the cargo cultists of the islands of 385 00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:27.440 the South Pacific, dancing around the island waiting for g 386 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:29.680 I Joe to bring them back more things from the 387 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:32.359 sky of food and creates and whatnot, dropping supplies onto 388 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:35.319 their island. They're God gi Joe, that is, you know, 389 00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:37.519 that's never gonna happen, no matter how many dances they 390 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:39.799 do and whatever these assholes are up to you rider, 391 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:43.559 you know, whatever their endgame is, he's anciently and cargo cultists. 392 00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:46.160 It's not it's not achievable. It's the same difference. 393 00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:49.279 They're dancing around the island waiting for Gi Joe to 394 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:51.880 drop them more supplies, and in the meantime they're making 395 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:54.920 everyone else's life a living hell in my opinion, because again, 396 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:57.119 these things are fuge. They seem to be fuge right, 397 00:21:57.200 --> 00:21:59.400 and into a certain regard, they seem to be used 398 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:02.160 as weapons. When I say they're using weapons, you know, 399 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:05.079 there seems to be some sort of modern day incarnation 400 00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:07.400 of spook programs with these things, as far as using 401 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:11.359 them as spook operations with these colts like Heaven's Gate Order, 402 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:15.279 the Solar Temple, and strangely enough, the Branch Davidians, which 403 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:16.039 I didn't. 404 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:21.279 Know French Davidians and Order the Solar Temple are very 405 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:26.119 similar in nature as they were both being investigated for 406 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:33.960 weapons modifying weapons, which we know that that was a 407 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:37.759 whole story, that was a fabricated story in order for 408 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:42.759 them to like basically go in to get a warrant. 409 00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:50.079 And they also made up allegations of like methanphetamine lab 410 00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:53.839 at the Branch Davidian compound, which was also a lie. 411 00:22:54.839 --> 00:23:01.599 I had David Tibadero on my show. It's one of 412 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:05.799 the least it's most underrated show I've probably ever done. 413 00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:09.319 I tried to do a clip of it, but it 414 00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:13.000 didn't gain much traction either when even when I released 415 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:16.400 the smaller clip of it. But David Tivodero was one 416 00:23:16.440 --> 00:23:19.519 of the survivors of Waco, and he came on and 417 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:23.039 gave me his like entire story of everything that was 418 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:25.960 that was going on. But Order of the Solar Temple 419 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:30.599 is very similar and in a lot of ways. And 420 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:34.480 also Order the Solar Temples very similar to the Heaven's 421 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:38.279 Gate cult as well, like they all kind of mesh 422 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:44.039 and like melod together, so temple all three of their 423 00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:47.400 facilities that they were running. One was in Geneva, Switzerland. 424 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:50.000 The other one was in Canada, and I think another 425 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:54.640 one in like right outside of Switzerland. They all burnt 426 00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:55.200 to the ground. 427 00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:59.240 Well on top of that, on top of that, sir, 428 00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:02.440 they did it same day, didn't they. Heaven's Gate Order 429 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:05.920 the Solar Temple had a simultaneous ritual because they're both 430 00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:09.880 trying to jump on hailbop comment, right, and a few 431 00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:12.279 years prior on our previous ritual. And so that's what 432 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:16.359 ninety seven, So in ninety four, in ninety four, right 433 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:22.559 with the Waco situation, was that so in ninety three 434 00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:24.920 the Order of the Stolar Temple folks, that was the 435 00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:27.519 one in Canada, the one the one I just mentioned 436 00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:29.960 in ninety seven and ninety three, the one in the 437 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:35.680 There was two incidents in France, right, and one of 438 00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:37.400 them was Simon was one of them. 439 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:40.119 They recorded the cult leaders. 440 00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:43.960 On camera saying that the Branch Davidians beat them to 441 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:46.519 the punch, meaning they were both trying to catch the 442 00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:48.880 same comment. According to the cult leaders of the Order 443 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:52.759 of the Solar Temple. When one of the no, the 444 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:54.960 Branch Davidians in ninety three. 445 00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:59.079 Branch Davidians never wanted to die. Bro the freaking government 446 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:01.279 burned that compound to the ground. 447 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:03.960 No, I understand that. But what I'm saying is it 448 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:05.960 seems like we don't have that full story. According to 449 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.119 the cult leaders of the Order of the Solar Temple, 450 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:10.680 who were recorded saying that the they had to delay 451 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:13.839 their their their next ritual, you know, to jump on 452 00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:17.359 whatever comet or whatever they're trying to achieve, and because 453 00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:20.440 the Branch Davidians quote unquote beat them to the punch. 454 00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:23.440 They recorded on camera saying this in an undercover operation. 455 00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:28.400 Again, there's no true because they they the Branch Davidians 456 00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:31.400 had no they did not want to die. The the 457 00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:36.000 at F and the FBI literally set the place on 458 00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:40.599 fire and killed all of that. That's what happened. 459 00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:42.880 They That's what I'm saying. It's a it's a it's 460 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:44.759 a disparate narrative. I'll bring it up in a second though. 461 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:49.599 So served a warrant to the Branch Davidians and then 462 00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:54.160 opened fire on them, reportedly killing their dogs first, and 463 00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:57.480 then all the Branch Davidians got all their weapons. Yeah, 464 00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:01.920 the uh, I think that that's right, Desert Rain. 465 00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:06.240 Now you're reciting the the known facts in air. That's 466 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:06.880 what I'm saying, dude. 467 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:09.119 But when you look at it, like that's what I'm saying, 468 00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:11.480 is this evidence that what these guys are saying from 469 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:13.920 the owner of the Solar Temple, the cult leaders, is 470 00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:16.559 this evidence that we don't know enough about the branch 471 00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:18.880 Davidian situation, you know what I mean? 472 00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:21.400 That's that's that's kind of what I was getting at. 473 00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:25.839 I mean, it could be, but then it's also the 474 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.079 Order of the Solar Temple could have just been like 475 00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:32.000 just talking shit. I don't I don't know what they 476 00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:35.920 would even be referring to unless unless they were talking 477 00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:40.039 to that they like ascended, that they ascended before they 478 00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:42.839 got to ascend or whatever. I don't know that that 479 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:43.599 could be a thing. 480 00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:45.920 But that could be too. Yeah, I'm not sure. We'll 481 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:47.599 have to we'll pull it up to I just got 482 00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:50.240 I just came across it recently when discussing the Order 483 00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:51.480 of the Solar Temple with them. 484 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:53.000 Also wait for guard. 485 00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:00.960 Yeah, the Solar was really very culty, very Masonic, very 486 00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:09.720 h rich and wealthy. Heavy in the weapon that was 487 00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:12.640 found that killed a lot of the people in the 488 00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.519 Order of the Solar Temple, there was a one shot 489 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:22.680 gun you had to reload the gun every time you 490 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.440 shot the gun. And I believe it was more than 491 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:30.559 half of the people that died at the Order of 492 00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:34.400 the Solar Temple compound in Geneva or Switzerland were all 493 00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:39.599 shot in the head. So how did they shoot? How 494 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:44.960 did they shoot that many people in the head with 495 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:49.839 a one shot gun. It's pretty sauce. The whole thing 496 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:52.000 is pretty sauce. And then how did all three of 497 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:57.039 these things almost like these compounds almost simultaneously go up? 498 00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:00.920 No, literally, so the one in Canada for the Word 499 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.519 of the Solar Temple in ninety seven is simultaneous to 500 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.359 the Heavens Gate ritual in San Diego. So you have 501 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:10.880 we'll call it thirty five hundred miles between these two locations, 502 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:11.400 you know what I mean. 503 00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:15.559 I believe the Order of the Solar Temple was before 504 00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:16.720 Heaven's Gate. 505 00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:18.000 Yah. 506 00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:20.319 It's literally the same time, dude. Literally, they're both trying 507 00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:24.480 to catch hailbop. That's what I'm saying. I just realized 508 00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:26.240 I just put all this stuff together recently, and when 509 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:28.839 discussing with Austin Waite, pccard and my cold because I 510 00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:30.839 was trying to map it out chronologically and like holy shit, 511 00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:33.000 these are the same days. I think it was Julia 512 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.119 that brought it to my attention from Cosmic Peach in 513 00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:36.160 that same conversation. 514 00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:40.839 We bring it up here, I. 515 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:41.759 Was in the same year. 516 00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:45.559 Well, they had three different events. They had three different 517 00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:51.359 events major you know, mass deaths, right, so the first 518 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:55.160 one goes down in Let me just breathe up here. 519 00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:58.319 What are your thoughts on Chris Bledsoe as I'm bringing 520 00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:00.480 this one up right, He's an interesting character that likes 521 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:01.960 to go out there and tell a lot of tales. 522 00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:08.319 Huh okay, So I think that it was ninety six 523 00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:15.720 was the Order of the Solar Temples. 524 00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:22.359 Here we go here we got looks like France in 525 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.720 ninety five, in Quebeca ninety seven, and we got one 526 00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:28.480 in ninety four, looks like maybe nineteen ninety four. D 527 00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.599 Mambro one of the leaders of the cult. If well, 528 00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:33.799 folks aren't familiar with this one. This is a very 529 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.119 interesting cult Order of the Solar Temple. And they kind 530 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:39.920 of claimed this Knights templar, like a neo templarism, right, 531 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:41.920 that was a lot a root of their situation. 532 00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:46.799 Yeah, very nice templar like they would do these rituals. 533 00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:49.759 They would get only the rich people that were involved 534 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.240 to donate to their cult. They would use these magic 535 00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.480 smoking mirrors to convince them that during the ritual that 536 00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.000 they were seeing some sort of angelic operation or sometimes 537 00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.960 even a dark operation. But he was just Joseph Demanbro 538 00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:09.880 was just using a freaking projector, yep, to convince the 539 00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:14.079 followers that their initiation rituals complete because they got to 540 00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:18.880 see the vision of the entity. But his daughter was 541 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.680 the one that came out and revealed that she's the 542 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:24.079 one that blew the whistle on that entire thing. And 543 00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:27.279 so the demanmbro was just making a bunch of shut. 544 00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.960 Up and he's literally just projecting this stuff like you know, again, 545 00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:34.039 it's not like a major show, but they're using drugs. 546 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:36.640 They're doing these light shows and performances. Right, It's kind 547 00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:40.200 of this kind of all engrossing, kind of very mk 548 00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:42.319 ulture like experience. I think for a lot of you know, 549 00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.359 this situation as far as an induction into this the 550 00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:47.200 ritual induction into the cult, right. 551 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.640 Yeah, I mean, and they would get millions of dollars 552 00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:54.240 in donations from like the most wealthy people. The only 553 00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:56.240 way that you could get into the fault is if 554 00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:59.599 you had like like you could prove that you had 555 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:06.720 an ex amount of money like in your bank account Kelly. Yeah. 556 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:09.519 And these people were also like studying a lot of 557 00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:12.160 this stuff before. So it's almost like the Heaven's Gate 558 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.559 cult where Marshall apple White and Bonnie Nettles just went 559 00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:19.000 around to all these different New Age centers and all 560 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.839 these spiritual centers and collected all their information to form 561 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.599 the basis and the outline of how they wanted to 562 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.279 run their cult. And it's sort of the same way 563 00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:34.960 with Luke jerra Here and Joseph Demambro. But this call 564 00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:43.079 was also responsible for killing a baby. Well they previous 565 00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:49.319 cult members Joseph Demambro. If you scroll down a little 566 00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:53.359 bit you probably find it. But Joseph Demambro was convinced 567 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:59.039 that this baby was like the reincarnation of Satan or 568 00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:02.200 like Lucifer what I heard. Then they went to this. 569 00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:05.319 Writer at Wikipedia says it never happened on all the 570 00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.319 sorts of all information on the interwebs. Go figure, huh, Well, 571 00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:14.000 what was the that they didn't kill the baby? There's 572 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:15.799 no mention of it there. What was the what was 573 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:16.359 the year of this. 574 00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:19.599 I don't know. I'm just scroll down a little bit. 575 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:20.279 You'll find it. 576 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.799 No, No, I searched, it's not there's no baby on 577 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.119 that page. There's no baby, there's no. 578 00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:28.000 Jab scrolled and scroll down on the Wikipedia page. 579 00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:31.119 Well, I did the control of I'm just saying, there's 580 00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:33.079 no there's nothing about babies or deaths here. 581 00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:34.359 What do you know? 582 00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:36.720 Do you know a location? It occurred in? Maybe country? 583 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.279 We'll just do baby death, don't. I'm not familiar with 584 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:42.799 this aspect. I was mainly just learning about this cult, 585 00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:44.519 and I was familiar with it, but I wasn't deeply 586 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.359 as familiar with all these details to know that there 587 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.599 were so many similarities to so many other things. 588 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:57.160 To go to mouse suicide and. 589 00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:06.680 Uh ninety four murders. The ninety four event, I believe 590 00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:08.640 we got this was the first one. 591 00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:11.599 This is this killed the family are here. 592 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:14.799 On this page, Broue. 593 00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:16.359 They don't list it on the main page. That's what 594 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:19.119 I'm saying this. You gotta click on it, dude, you 595 00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:19.880 gotta click on it. 596 00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.440 You're trying to say, I'm lying Brown now. 597 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:25.440 I'm trying to I'm trying to say Wikipedia is hiding it. 598 00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:26.160 The source of all. 599 00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:28.599 Information on the interwebs, right, Folks go to Wikipedia and 600 00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:30.680 they're like, well, Wikipedia didn't say so didn't happen? 601 00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:31.599 You know. 602 00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:33.480 That's why I use it as a basis of, you know, 603 00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:35.599 trying to understand what the main narrative is, because you know, 604 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:37.920 just as well as I do, that's where folks stop 605 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:40.680 at to learn most you know, you know, situations. And 606 00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.160 I agree, you can find some good information on there. 607 00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.119 You can see where things are, what stories are being told. 608 00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:48.480 But it's interesting because I came across this the other 609 00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:50.880 day on a very similar cult circumstance where they were 610 00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.920 removing the titles of things like from newspaper headlines in 611 00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:54.759 the digital format. 612 00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:56.839 So oh yeah, a lot of that with the Virginia's 613 00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:58.640 your phrase stuff. I have it all popped up on 614 00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:02.359 my Toms page and a lot of the links are 615 00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:03.680 like broken links. 616 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:04.160 Yeah. 617 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:06.240 And and I presume the reason why they remove the 618 00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.639 headlines from it is and put just the numbers because that, 619 00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:11.239 you know, makes search engines, you know, be like you 620 00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:12.320 can't you can't find it? 621 00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:13.960 Right? Yeah. 622 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:19.679 Also they changed the the the picture that was the 623 00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.159 order of the solar temple. Didn't used to be like 624 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:26.000 this on the wikiped in front of the Wikipedia page. 625 00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:29.639 I did this. I covered this cult in my UFO 626 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:37.440 Doomsday Cult series. But yeah, read the read the ritual 627 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:39.559 of h here it is. 628 00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:42.880 They're given a bridge version on the main page, but yeah, 629 00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:44.639 the master pages were to go when they give you 630 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.559 all the details here about the age groups of these people, right, 631 00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:49.039 because there is it's all. 632 00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:51.440 It's all families, right, It's not like just it's not 633 00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:52.320 just adults. Right. 634 00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.119 Grace Kelly and the Prince of Monica may have been involved, 635 00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:57.920 but I assure you they're not the ones dying here, right, Yeah, 636 00:34:58.880 --> 00:34:59.920 So what do you what do you think that l 637 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:00.719 been of the cold is? 638 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:00.880 Right? 639 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.079 We got the upper echelon ailment and then we got 640 00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.840 all these people dying. Are the upper echelon just recruiting folks? 641 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:07.599 And then murk what's going on here? 642 00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:13.000 Yeah? Right here? Two members Joel Egger and Jerry get 643 00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:17.760 an Owd killed the family, repeatedly stabbing them, including their 644 00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:19.000 three month year old baby. 645 00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:20.360 Good lord. 646 00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:26.840 Yeah, as ordered by Joseph Demambro. These murders were carried 647 00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:32.800 out in a ritualistic fashion and then uh the for 648 00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:36.679 Switzerland the same day, spent the next four days cleaning 649 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:38.920 up the scene and preparing for death. On October fourth, 650 00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:41.960 they said incendiary timers to go off and burn the 651 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.559 house down as a result. So they're not. 652 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:49.480 Part of the mass, the mass deaths, the mass suicide. 653 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:55.119 This happened right before they Yeah, they did this murder 654 00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:59.119 of the two the family and the three month old child, 655 00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.679 like right before their compound went up in flames, and 656 00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:05.800 then they essentially murdered all of their members. 657 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.440 Well, this is a very interesting writer because it says 658 00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:10.719 they were lured into the situation. It says on thirty 659 00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:14.480 September ninety four at five pm, the Deutoys or Dutoys 660 00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.679 were lured into the Chile and more in heights, having 661 00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:20.719 been invited there by Belloton. So Belleton's a member of 662 00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:21.360 the cold huh. 663 00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:24.800 And right here says twenty of the dead had been 664 00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:28.440 shot with a gun. This is the main compound in Geneva, Switzerland. 665 00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:32.280 Twenty one of them had died from gunshot wounds, previously 666 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:35.239 drugged with sleeping pills, and the other two dying of 667 00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:40.199 suffocation from plastic bags which is very reminiscent of the 668 00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:43.800 Heaven's Gate called as well. What they don't say in 669 00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:48.639 here is that the gun was only a one shot gun, 670 00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:52.960 so they had to kill twenty one people. They were 671 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:56.320 shot in the head by a one shot gun, so 672 00:36:56.360 --> 00:36:58.519 they had to do one. 673 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.800 Right because some of that survived that right, I mean, 674 00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:04.039 if you're doing it, you know what I mean, like 675 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.159 that doesn't want that only works out. I mean, I 676 00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:08.199 guess you could grab the gun from the dead person 677 00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:10.599 to keep passing it on. But I mean, it didn't 678 00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:11.679 really seem plausible, does it. 679 00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:15.159 No, it doesn't. And it's and it's not in question 680 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.559 that these people weren't murdered. I mean, twenty one of 681 00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:25.360 them were one murdered. They didn't like voluntarily killed themselves. 682 00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:26.920 They were murdered. 683 00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.760 So this guy right here there, Dominic bellots On, did 684 00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:32.480 he was he part of the murdered because it seems 685 00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:33.960 like he was the one that lured that family and 686 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.840 to start all this these shenanigans here, not the good 687 00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:38.159 kind of shenanigans. 688 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:41.639 Uh, he was one of the people. Yeah, he's one 689 00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:44.239 of the people that did the that killed the two 690 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:48.960 family members. And there there's a three month old child, and. 691 00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:52.559 Then wouldn't that be convenient if he's one of the 692 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:54.239 ones that's amongst the dead though, right. 693 00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.559 That would be convenient. I know that Joseph Demambro and 694 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:03.199 Luke Gerie were both found amongst the dead, and this 695 00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:06.599 original one that happened in ninety four. 696 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:09.800 Right, but both of them. 697 00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.400 Yeah, so both of the leaders were completely dead in 698 00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:15.320 ninety four. 699 00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:21.480 Yeah, it's you know, which is weird again, So I'll 700 00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.320 pull it up in a minute where I was looking 701 00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:26.039 at that video that was done in undercover operations already 702 00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:26.639 being run here. 703 00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:29.360 So it's just such a weird environment. But I don't 704 00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:30.159 see a name. 705 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:33.039 Yep, he was amongst the people amongst the dead, so 706 00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:35.000 Belatan was so there you go. 707 00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.880 Obviously, no one's going to answer questions at that point, right. 708 00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:43.199 Exactly, and they don't know exactly who was the one 709 00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:45.320 that was doing the murdering. And that's been the whole 710 00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:48.360 thing that's been up for contention. The family members of 711 00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:50.239 this whole thing, one of the one of it all 712 00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.679 like investigated and they were like, no, all these people 713 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:53.679 committed suicide. 714 00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:54.519 Here we go. 715 00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:56.320 I finally found the entire you know what I mean, Like, 716 00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:57.599 that's what I'm saying. You gotta do a little bit 717 00:38:57.599 --> 00:38:59.440 work here to find the entire death list in ages 718 00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:01.760 and posts because this is a very wide ranging group. 719 00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:02.039 I think both. 720 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:03.960 I remember when I was looking at it before, it 721 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.639 was it was kind of these weren't all the like 722 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:08.079 as you were saying, you gotta be you gotta have 723 00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:10.199 money to get in the colt, right, But so these 724 00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:12.239 weren't all the lower rungs of society or anything, you 725 00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:13.400 know what I mean. But at the same time, you 726 00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.320 got this factor I feel like where you got the 727 00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.480 Prince of Monaco in the former act, you know, the princess, 728 00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.360 the actress Chrace Kelly, they're they're in their members of 729 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:25.480 this cult. So again, I mean there's some some it 730 00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:28.480 just seems like one of those kind of classic conspiracy 731 00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.360 tropes of elite you know, elite folks, you know, roping 732 00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:33.639 some uh, you know some of the lower class that 733 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.440 you know folks they would consider lower class, right and 734 00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:40.239 then murking them. 735 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:45.199 Yeah, yeah, that kind of seems But these people have 736 00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.760 so much money, bro. Like there was documents that was 737 00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.519 found of like like, don't like people that were in 738 00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:55.000 the cold that was giving the cult like millions of dollars. Dude, Like, 739 00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:01.360 I don't know why, I don't know why they would 740 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:05.119 want to do what they did, doesn't make any type 741 00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:09.679 of sense, but Joseph Damambro and Luke Cheray basically they 742 00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:12.800 scammed all these people out of money because they were 743 00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:17.119 just faking all of the supernatural stuff that they were doing. 744 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:20.119 I know it somewhere on this Wikipedia article as well, 745 00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:26.280 probably under scrutiny or something Beliefs and Practices or something, 746 00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:33.639 but it also talks about how George Damambro's his daughter 747 00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:36.079 was the one that came out inside that, and then 748 00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:39.360 he then he tried to cover it all up whenever 749 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:42.079 it started coming out that he was faking the rituals 750 00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:46.360 and planning these fake operitions with like smoking mirrors and 751 00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:51.760 like projectors. He then turned around and made people believe 752 00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:55.639 that they were highly important historical figures and that they 753 00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:59.320 had been reincarnated here to serve a purpose and follow him, 754 00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:04.280 and that they were reincarnations of famous historical figures throughout 755 00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.440 history and they were here to serve a mission. And then, 756 00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:08.679 like everyone body. 757 00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:12.800 Yeah, so he just switched, just like. 758 00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.880 Every cult does. They just whenever they get caught up 759 00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:19.000 with something. I call it the switcheroo. They just they 760 00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.920 just switch up there and completely up in their entire 761 00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:28.360 basis of what they originally said in order to fit 762 00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:34.440 the narrative and then shore in the new beliefs. That 763 00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.599 was disparaging that people figured out before. So in this case, 764 00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:42.079 it was, oh, well, someone's saying about this, that we're 765 00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:44.960 faking this, uh, these operations and stuff, and it turns 766 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.559 out these rituals weren't really real and you weren't seeing 767 00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:53.440 beels above in the ritual room. But you are very important. 768 00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:55.800 I've been shown a vision. I've been shown a vision. 769 00:41:55.920 --> 00:42:02.360 JJ always how it starts, writer, watch out, watch out. 770 00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:05.840 Showing a vision. And in this vision, you are the 771 00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:10.280 reincarninated version of Saint Jermaine, you know what I mean, 772 00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:11.760 Like Saint dude. 773 00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:14.559 You are saying like David Wilcox started to sound like 774 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:15.360 David Wilcox. 775 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:19.400 Now that's happened. 776 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:21.079 That was part of their theology too, because they had 777 00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:23.119 that theosophy stuff too going on in the order of 778 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:24.159 the Solar Temple. 779 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:29.559 Yeah, so this guy's interesting, right, this this Luke. 780 00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:34.639 Day, Yeah, Luke Xurie, he's a whole other thing as well. 781 00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:38.960 And how they mad and how Joseph Demambro mad and 782 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:41.639 how it all like went down and then they just 783 00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:46.360 how they decided to start the cult. Yeah, yeah, so interesting, 784 00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.559 but all of them do that same type of thing, 785 00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:51.519 Like the Heaven's Gate cult also did that. Whenever Marsha 786 00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.920 oppa white and body, Nettels was like, oh, well, you know, 787 00:42:56.079 --> 00:43:00.519 whenever you die, you're gonna ascend into the like a 788 00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:02.679 UFO mothership is going to come by and pick you up, 789 00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:04.440 and then you're going to be transferred into the next 790 00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:08.760 evolutionary level above human and be transformed into your true form, 791 00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:12.280 your true essence, and like all that, and then he 792 00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:16.840 they had everyone convinced that whenever Bonnie Nettles dies, she 793 00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:19.639 was going to be that her body was going to 794 00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.079 be abducted by UFO ship and then her body transformed 795 00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:26.480 into the next evolutionary level above human. And then whenever 796 00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:31.960 she died of brain cancer, and that didn't happen, right, 797 00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:34.480 and everybody was like, oh. 798 00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:37.280 It kind of blows up the spot, doesn't it. 799 00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:44.280 Yeah. And then he's like, oh, well, we gotta, we gotta. 800 00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:48.039 Everyone is super special. Now you are all the reincarnation 801 00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:51.199 of the Twelve Disciples, and you've been here with me 802 00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:55.079 since the very beginning. This is the same play book. 803 00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:58.239 Oh no, it's absolutely the same playbook, and That's exactly 804 00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:00.440 what wanted to bring up here too. I like the 805 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:03.079 comment though that that Demambro was a Vatican agent, because 806 00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:05.440 I'm not saying that that Luke Trey guy was a 807 00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:07.760 member of the Society of the Cincinnati and the French Chapter. 808 00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:09.960 But what I am saying is he's got ken folk 809 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.960 that are so it's always these weird cult you know. 810 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:16.840 And again I would argue there in ancient alien cargo 811 00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.719 cultists themselves as well within that organization, because they spawned 812 00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:23.559 Mormonism as well from the Society, the Founding the Fathers 813 00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:27.440 of America and the group they formed. Joseph Smith's grandfather 814 00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:29.360 was a was a member of that group out of 815 00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:34.039 the Massachusetts chapter, so you know, they adopted a lot 816 00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.519 of other founding father of theology as well. Elias Budena 817 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:41.519 one of this Founding Fathers. He wrote a book in 818 00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:44.519 eighteen eighteen about the Lost Tribes coming over here in 819 00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:47.199 all this mound building and moors and stuff that Joseph 820 00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:52.320 Smith would adapt into Mormonism. So at a lot of 821 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.880 those connections within that Society group and a lot of 822 00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.000 those society groups around I want to I want to 823 00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:59.519 discuss two relative to that JFK situation with you here 824 00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:01.840 before do we get in any of that stuff. Let's 825 00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.440 compare some of these cargo cults here with spookyation and 826 00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.400 alien cargo cults, the Order of the Solar Template and 827 00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:11.800 specifically Heaven's Gate. When we're talking about that, I'll pull 828 00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:15.119 up the one about the references to the Branch Davidians. 829 00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.239 But it looks here you got on the Wikipedia page, 830 00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.000 the source of all information on the interwebs. 831 00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:23.480 Once again you have what does that say? Scroll back 832 00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:26.920 up really quickly. It says something about Marysville, California, that 833 00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:28.199 has spawned. 834 00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:33.639 Face news of the mass suicide and motivated the copycat suicide. 835 00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:36.039 Yeah, copycat. I'm a fifty eight year old man living 836 00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:36.840 near Marysville. 837 00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:42.679 The man left a note dated March seventeenth, which said, 838 00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:47.320 I'm going to the spaceship and the helpop comment. Wow, 839 00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:52.559 those have gone before me. What holy should are you 840 00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:54.599 on Heaven's Gate right now? Is this the heavens Gate? 841 00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:55.679 Yeah? 842 00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:58.000 Yeah, I'm just trying to find the actual suicide event. 843 00:45:58.039 --> 00:45:59.360 But you have to scroll down to the bottom for that. 844 00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:02.119 Apparently. 845 00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:05.320 Yeah, was that I thought you were still on the 846 00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:06.480 Order of the Solar Temple. 847 00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:09.679 No, no, this is the Heaven's Gate one. I was 848 00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:12.800 trying to find the man. But it was interesting. 849 00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.039 I wonderf there's any more of those, uh copycat suicide events. 850 00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:17.800 That's the first one. I'm I'm not familiar with that 851 00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:19.320 specific against them. We'll come back to it. 852 00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:23.800 The well, you know that you can still email the 853 00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:25.280 Heaven's Gate Cult, right, Yeah? 854 00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:26.760 Their website is still active, isn't it. 855 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:32.679 And I sent them a message about okay, and they replied, dude, 856 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:34.320 they replied within a day. 857 00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:36.719 Oh, they're still recruiting, but they want you. 858 00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:43.960 Well, I just wanted their like their whole thing, like 859 00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:47.039 their manual of like what they had all of their people, 860 00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:51.039 because they had a list of rules sure the followers 861 00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:56.480 of the cult, and it was very strict rules that. 862 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:02.679 Okay, so here we go. 863 00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:03.719 Check out this one right here. 864 00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:06.039 So on March twenty second, nineteen ninety seven, the same 865 00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:08.960 day as the Heaven's Gate suicide, five members of the 866 00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:11.440 Order of the Solar Temple group also died in mass 867 00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:16.920 suicide event. And they're both trying to get on Hailbop 868 00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:20.400 and according to I don't know if this was the 869 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.960 specific goal of the hail Bop travels of the Heaven's Gate, 870 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:25.880 but the Order of the Solar Temple. 871 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:27.760 Folks. We're trying to get on hailbop on a ride 872 00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:29.000 to Sirius. 873 00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.559 But that was that would have been. That would have 874 00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:39.679 been like two years before the health comment even came. 875 00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:42.280 Through, though now this is twenty That was the closest 876 00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:44.599 It was at twenty second March nineteen ninety seven. And 877 00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:46.639 as you were saying, you were just emailing the Heaven's 878 00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:49.800 Gate folks, I assure you this cult persists as well, 879 00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.639 because it persisted long after the leaders died. 880 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:58.440 Right, Okay, here's my Well, let me make sure it 881 00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:03.639 doesn't expose any of the people that I'm talking to. Okay, 882 00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:06.400 it's good, Okay, So here's the email that I sent 883 00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:07.159 heavens Gate. 884 00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:09.960 Nice. 885 00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:17.760 It says, I am very interested in the twelve steps 886 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:20.079 and guidelines that were given to the Heavens Gate members. 887 00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:22.079 I'd very much like to read them. Can't find them 888 00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:25.559 anywhere online. Their only reference. Would would be really helpful 889 00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:27.440 if you could send them my way. Thanks for your time. 890 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:33.039 Then we replied, the seventeen steps are actually huh. 891 00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:35.840 It was it like five minutes next day when we're talking, 892 00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:37.239 what's the reply timeline looking. 893 00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:42.599 Like six seventeen and so less than twelve hours later. 894 00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:47.880 Dude, they're desperate, all right, please continue, sir. They need membership, 895 00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:48.719 they need membership. 896 00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:51.840 We said, the seven steps are actually in our book, 897 00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:55.960 but we have attached it here for you. So here's 898 00:48:56.039 --> 00:49:00.559 the seventeen steps of the Heavens Gate called that you 899 00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:06.079 can't anywhere online? You can. You can follow these instructions 900 00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:09.880 without adding your owner interpretation. Can you deliver instructions as 901 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:12.119 you receive them and they do not change according to 902 00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:16.320 your computer? Do you participate and then considerate conversation? I 903 00:49:16.360 --> 00:49:19.079 should be stating number two, three, and four. Well that 904 00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:21.400 was one two, and the number three is do you 905 00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:26.679 participate in inconsiderate conversations polluting the years of others while 906 00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.679 you and your partner work things out? Number four? Are 907 00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:32.840 you physically clumsy breaking things because you handle them too 908 00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:39.719 harshly or carelessly? Number five? Do you have Yeah, it's 909 00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:46.719 kind of like a what do they call that? Like alcoholic? No, 910 00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:50.920 it's like a do it in like alcoholics anonymous? I think, 911 00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:53.480 or something where like a review at the end of 912 00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:56.159 your day or something where you like ask these questions 913 00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:58.079 to the people. I don't know. I remember it, but 914 00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:01.119 you know? Number four? Or do you have way complete 915 00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:05.159 task because your poor standard of what is thorough? Number six? 916 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:09.360 Do you put off task procrastinate? Are your number seven? 917 00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:13.920 Are your patterns of cleanliness, sensitivity, gentleness, et cetera? Consistently consistent? 918 00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:17.840 Or are they good only when spotlighted? That's actually a 919 00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:21.119 really good question. That's actually a question. 920 00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.760 This seems like a psychological kind of like personality kind 921 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:25.599 of questionnaire. 922 00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:28.119 Guys, did some with some silly questions to me? 923 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:32.000 Number eight? Do you use more of something that is adequate? 924 00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:38.440 For example, excessively high cooking flame, more toothpaste than necessary? JJ? 925 00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:40.800 Are you using more toothpaste than necessary? 926 00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:45.599 Bro? That's what I'm saying. These are obscure questions. 927 00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:49.039 Number nine? Do you go from one extreme to another? 928 00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:53.719 As from overreacting to understanding, et cetera? 929 00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:54.679 Number ten? 930 00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:57.840 Are you sensitive when approaching another individual about something you 931 00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:01.400 want to discuss? Do you permit that individual to choose 932 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:03.639 to continue to do what he is doing or you 933 00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:05.800 force them to drop it in order to give attention 934 00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:08.079 to you? Do you stop and check or do you 935 00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:10.400 assume what is on your mind is more important than 936 00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:13.800 what is on theirs know the difference between your relationship 937 00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:16.719 with your teachers and your fellow classmates in this regard, 938 00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:20.719 that's kind of deep, bro. That one not gonna lie, dude. 939 00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:22.119 Number ten is kind of deep. 940 00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:27.400 Number one, classmates, you're already in a class. Didn't Eve 941 00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:28.639 tell you about the class? Did you sign up for 942 00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:30.320 the class? Did you get accepted the class? 943 00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:32.719 You're in it? You're already You're ten questions and you're 944 00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:33.280 in a class. 945 00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:37.440 Well, they called the class like there were cult followers. 946 00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:40.599 That's the class. 947 00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:45.480 It's a mind already accept Yeah. 948 00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:48.599 Number eleven, do you needlessly ask a question when the 949 00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:52.039 answer is obvious or a moment of silent observation will 950 00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.920 quickly reveal the answer. That's one that people need to 951 00:51:55.000 --> 00:52:02.159 freaking really do, bro. Number twelve, Are you pushy, aggressive, 952 00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:07.719 interfering or demanding in any way as familiarity calls you 953 00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.639 to become more relaxed with your partners or others, that 954 00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:14.760 your actions or words don't hold enough restraint? Number fourteen? 955 00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:18.920 Are you general simple, cautious and they're a thoughtfully restrained 956 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:21.840 in your steps of all other physical actions or words. 957 00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.519 That's another thing that the cult did, though, too, is 958 00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:30.960 like convince them that like to get vasectomies. I got 959 00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:35.679 a chemical castration, and then he convinced his other followers 960 00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:39.320 of the cults that also get chemical castration. 961 00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:42.079 That's why I say all cults are sex cults, even 962 00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.639 if it's chopping your dick off kind of uni sex cult. 963 00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:46.280 I mean, they're still telling you don't have sex and 964 00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:47.800 you can't have sex ay more because you lop your 965 00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:49.920 dick off chemically speaking. 966 00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:54.960 Number fifteen, have you ever outgrown defensive defensiveness? In his 967 00:52:55.039 --> 00:53:00.159 flip side Martyrdom sixteen? Can you understand and review your 968 00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.639 mind in all ways which remembers of the next level 969 00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:06.039 are sensitive? If you can, you have no excuse for 970 00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:10.079 not working on improving in all these times. Seventeen. When 971 00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:12.679 your teachers have asked someone to do a task and 972 00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:16.960 you relate to you, do you treat that task and 973 00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:21.840 it's deliverers with much respect as you would if it 974 00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:26.880 come directly from your teachers. So it's pretty interesting. But 975 00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:28.960 I was like, Okay, well I need to get these 976 00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:34.960 steps to so that I can adequately cover the cult, 977 00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:36.559 you know, and do my show on them. 978 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:40.880 So yeah, yeah, dude, I mean that's a that's an 979 00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.000 interesting thing, because I see a lot of that kind 980 00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:46.480 of what do they call that Meyer Briggs kind ofsh 981 00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:47.639 aspects to it. 982 00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:51.760 Personality exams, right. 983 00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:57.199 Yeah, and like, uh, how do you act? Like what 984 00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:58.360 do you think about. 985 00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:03.280 Do you you know what I mean? 986 00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:06.639 Yeah? 987 00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:09.840 Yeah, yeah? What what kind of you know, clothes do 988 00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:11.480 you wear every day? Do you put do you make 989 00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:14.400 your bed at night? Like morning? Like? 990 00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:15.679 What's going on with you? 991 00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:19.199 Bro? You know? How many times do you flush the toilet? 992 00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:21.360 Do you do you only flush when you pooh? Or 993 00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:24.000 do you flush also when you pee? You know? 994 00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:26.679 Important things? 995 00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:28.639 They're trying, well, they're trying, you know, they're really trying 996 00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:30.360 to get down to the personalities of these folks and 997 00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:32.159 figure out how to get to them, you know, that 998 00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:34.440 way they can communicate their messages to whom I understand 999 00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:36.519 how they operate and think. But you know, through these 1000 00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:39.880 psychological exams, it's it's dark. But I think that's what's 1001 00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:41.679 going on there for sure. I mean, it's that's what 1002 00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:44.719 it appears to me. So I'm trying to find that 1003 00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:48.000 where that undercover stuff was on the matters of that 1004 00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:52.559 comparison of or what the statements from the uh Luke 1005 00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:57.599 Terra and the mabras statements about the Branch Davidians. But what, uh, 1006 00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:01.519 what were your thoughts on this comment about this upernova business. 1007 00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:06.000 Well, I think maybe if that's true and what you're 1008 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:07.960 saying is true, that they made a comment about which 1009 00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.000 I don't have any reason not to believe you, but 1010 00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:17.239 because it was kind of commonly accepted before the trials 1011 00:55:18.039 --> 00:55:21.039 that it was the Branch Davidians that were the ones 1012 00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:27.440 that suff fire to the compound, but that's not that's 1013 00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:30.079 not that's not accur So it could be a statement 1014 00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:33.280 that was made by someone in the Order of the 1015 00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:37.440 Solar Temple that thought that they were the ones that 1016 00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:42.239 started the fire and ended up killing themselves, but that is. 1017 00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:46.119 That could be conspective that way, they thought that they 1018 00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:47.800 got beat to the punch because they thought these people 1019 00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:49.840 did it. But my question on that, if that were 1020 00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:52.599 the case, is what celestial event was going on around 1021 00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.280 the time that they thought somebody else beat them to 1022 00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:57.440 the punch. And I think that's you present a very 1023 00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:00.519 logical situation or plausible situations. 1024 00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:06.320 Because everybody, right, Yeah, people didn't want to believe that 1025 00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:12.280 the FBI was the ones that you know, started the fires. 1026 00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:14.920 For sure, but it seems to be these celestial things 1027 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:17.559 in the common common principle, right, the serious worship. 1028 00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:19.239 Right. I don't know. I don't know enough about this 1029 00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:20.239 supernova stuff. 1030 00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:26.519 But bro, there's literally footage of FBI agents in the 1031 00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:28.840 back of the building whenever the building is on fire, 1032 00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:32.480 shooting guns into the back of the building. Bro. 1033 00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:35.679 Oh, well, dude, I there's there's I've read all them 1034 00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:37.519 pat con documents. In fact, I was doing I played 1035 00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:39.679 a little bit of I was playing a little bit 1036 00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:41.320 of mad Lebs with him a couple of weeks ago in 1037 00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:44.320 Operation GC Live with my guest Jonah, trouble maker Jonah. 1038 00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:47.360 But the Waco situation, to me is part of my 1039 00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:49.519 ran Contra, and the whole pack coun stuff is all 1040 00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:51.599 part of the same deal with the material assistance commands 1041 00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:55.000 of Bill Coleby, who's all around the whole every auspices 1042 00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:57.119 of this thing we call I ran Contra. This quote 1043 00:56:57.159 --> 00:56:59.800 unquote octopus if you will that hopefully Jay Wider is 1044 00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:01.360 not the leader. If I saw your show the other day, 1045 00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:03.760 that Shay Wider might be the leader of the octopus. 1046 00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:07.079 No, he's not the leader of the octopus. Just talking 1047 00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:09.519 about the Danny Casteleiro octopus murders. 1048 00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:11.760 Yeah, so that same kind of octopus stuff. 1049 00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:14.840 That's the same concept that Castelara was developing, and it's 1050 00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:19.119 the same network of situations. I think the Waco folks 1051 00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:22.800 in this gun trade you're referencing, got somehow intertwined amongst 1052 00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.840 the Iran quote unquote Iran cont gun trade that was 1053 00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:28.239 operating out of what is known as in those pack 1054 00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:32.079 on documents as well and the Iran Countra stuff Midwest Depot, 1055 00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:35.079 which is a Air Force base in northern San Antonio. 1056 00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:36.159 Yeah. 1057 00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:38.719 If you want to know more about the Waco situation 1058 00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:43.360 and exactly what happened, there's this really good documentary that's 1059 00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:50.079 called Waco The Rules of Engagement, and it breaks down 1060 00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:52.880 everything that was happening. They have evidence and proof of 1061 00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:57.840 flear video of how the fire started, when they started, 1062 00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:00.320 how they all started in the different corner of the 1063 00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:05.719 buildings where the where the FBI was putting in the gas, okay, 1064 00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:09.400 and they all started simultaneously. And then they have flear 1065 00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:13.800 footage of gunshots coming from tanks on the back of 1066 00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:16.159 the building where people were trying to escape. 1067 00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:20.880 No, and I think I think one of the I mean, 1068 00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:22.639 I'm sure there's a number of factors away into this, 1069 00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:24.400 because again the same with the Silver Temple, they were 1070 00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:26.679 doing gun stuff and all these other other things also. 1071 00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:28.400 But when I think the same kind of the factors 1072 00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.800 apply here with their gun stuff is kind of ties 1073 00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:34.840 to these spooky operations and this Midwest Depot operations. Again, 1074 00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:38.000 I think given the proximity of operations from the gun 1075 00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:40.480 tray going on, I think it's very plausible that they 1076 00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:42.800 may have been wrapped up in that stuff. And on 1077 00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:47.000 that note, and my previous comment about how they the 1078 00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:50.480 folks of the monitor these Wikipedia pages the sorts of 1079 00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:53.960 all information on the interwebs, the reference of the Midwest 1080 00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:57.400 Depot has been removed from the Wikipedia page of Camp Stanley. 1081 00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:04.000 Interestingly enough, so Camp Stanley sits inside of an Air 1082 00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:08.119 Force installation. It says it's an Army installation Leon Springs. Okay, 1083 00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:11.760 it sits inside Camp Bullis, which is an Air Force installation, 1084 00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:17.760 Camp BULLUS and and uh it's a CIA secret CIA weapons. 1085 00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:20.320 The boat's been was used as early as the nineteen eighties, 1086 00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:23.840 and I would argue through the past the Iran contry 1087 00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:29.559 hearing's well through the nineties and possibly even today. So 1088 00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:32.840 when you look at the gun trafficking. It's it's close proximity, 1089 00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:34.880 you know what I mean, It's it draws at least begs. 1090 00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:37.239 The question is do these two things intersect? 1091 00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:43.559 Well, the well how the investigation started on the order 1092 00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:46.519 of the Solar Temple was that they thought that they 1093 00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:49.920 were modifying weapons and this investigation came from their compound 1094 00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:57.360 in Canada. So they luxurie of weapons, trafficking, weapons, dealing 1095 00:59:57.400 --> 01:00:01.760 and modifying weapons in Canada. But that gave them then 1096 01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:10.159 the jurisdiction to also investigate all of their other like compounds. Yeah, 1097 01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:14.960 so that's really all that they needed, Just like all 1098 01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:18.079 they needed for the Branch Davidians was a warrant to 1099 01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:30.519 investigate under suspicion that they've rush was modifying and selling 1100 01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:31.480 illegal weapons. 1101 01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:34.920 Same deal with Randy Weaver or same narrative they gave 1102 01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:37.920 with Randy Weaver and Riby Ridge, right, same playbook. 1103 01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:41.320 Yeah, and I don't even think Randy Weaver even did it. 1104 01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:43.280 I don't even think he did what they said that 1105 01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:46.679 he did. They he didn't even presume them. What did 1106 01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:49.480 they ask him to do, like modify a shotgun or 1107 01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:52.559 something like that. I don't even think that he actually 1108 01:00:54.519 --> 01:01:01.679 brought right, he just talked with an undercover agent about it. 1109 01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:02.320 That was it. 1110 01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:04.039 Yeah, they kind didn't have to prove it after they 1111 01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:05.960 went in their guns blazing and popping off his kid 1112 01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:10.519 and his wife. So the guy that would negotiate that 1113 01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:13.800 the we were to turn himself in, there would be 1114 01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:17.679 uh Bo Grits and Bo Grits. According to the Packcund documents, 1115 01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:20.280 it seems that Bo Grits was a undercover agent for 1116 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:20.840 the FBI. 1117 01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:30.559 Yeah. I also had uh the FB the negotiating FBI 1118 01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:35.480 officer on my show that negotiated Waco with Dave Grosh 1119 01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:41.519 no ship, Gary Knausner on my show, and he was 1120 01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:49.079 also the h FBI. Well he wasn't on it, but 1121 01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:51.880 he was supposed to be on the Ruby Ridge case too. 1122 01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:55.000 Yeah, there was a lot of crossover in those operations 1123 01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:59.719 from numerous law enforcement at f FBI and in Marshall's 1124 01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:01.719 believe there's some cross over and all three of us 1125 01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:04.039 from both operations. 1126 01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:07.639 Yep, that's the game. 1127 01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:13.519 Did he work with Arles Perry's husband, do you remember 1128 01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:14.079 that narrative? 1129 01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:21.119 I'm not familiar with that one, but he's worked several hostage. 1130 01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:24.400 Bruce Perry's a psychologist. His wife was murdered. She's the 1131 01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:28.239 opening murder, and Maury Terry's the ultimate evil. Arles Perry's 1132 01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:32.639 murdered in a church in Stanford in October twelfth, nineteen 1133 01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:33.719 seventy four. 1134 01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:37.440 That's a total guest So, but Bruce Perry's her husband. 1135 01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:39.519 He's going to Stanford as a doctor at the time 1136 01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:42.800 and would later become this psychiatrist to these children in 1137 01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:44.159 these events like Waco. 1138 01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:51.320 Yes, and then also Waco, they tried to coax and 1139 01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:55.280 coach the kids in the scene that they were abused 1140 01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:56.599 in like Melani. 1141 01:02:56.440 --> 01:02:59.480 Yeah, I think that was this dude's role. Man, I 1142 01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:01.039 think got to this guy, is that's what he was 1143 01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:02.519 brought in to do. I don't he was. I don't 1144 01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:05.320 know where he came in the process after during negotiations, 1145 01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:09.000 after negotiations, so that I don't know that, I don't know. 1146 01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:15.480 Yeah, they tried to coax, coax and coach, coach and 1147 01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:20.639 cox all these kids in the like, trying to have 1148 01:03:20.760 --> 01:03:26.079 them say that they were beaten and abused and malnourished 1149 01:03:26.119 --> 01:03:29.559 and all this, which is most of the kids that 1150 01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:36.320 was at the Branch Davidian compound were mostly Dave Krushes. Sorry, 1151 01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:39.239 I get those last names mixed up because you have Dave. 1152 01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:42.679 Right, the UFO guy, and then you. 1153 01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:48.079 Have davidsh Krush, which is the weako. 1154 01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:54.920 Right ko R e Yes, isn't that weird? It strikingly fanatically, 1155 01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:58.400 it's it's strikingly similar. No, I do. I think I 1156 01:03:58.400 --> 01:03:59.880 think it's I like a lot of things are weird, right. 1157 01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:02.360 I think it's weird that Bruce Perry doesn't mention anybody, 1158 01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:04.159 his wife or the cultivate or them, but it's happy 1159 01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:06.960 to come to these things with commitcing kids of things. 1160 01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:09.639 Right, it's not it's not environment, it's non environment. 1161 01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.519 And there's also this other documentary. I haven't watched it 1162 01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:18.480 yet one I all I was bringing it up. It's 1163 01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:21.920 called The Accus the Hamstead Pedophile Hoax. 1164 01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:25.119 Yeah, I'm from vaguely familiar with that over there in 1165 01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:25.519 the UK. 1166 01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:32.920 Yes, Yes, I don't really know too much about it 1167 01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:36.079 because I haven't watched it, but it it's a documentary 1168 01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:36.800 on Netflix. 1169 01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:40.119 Yeah, I watched something on a number of years back 1170 01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:42.599 and I think they're I mean, I'd have to watch 1171 01:04:42.639 --> 01:04:45.159 again to really offer my opinion on it, but to 1172 01:04:45.239 --> 01:04:47.360 the best of my recollections, there was it was a 1173 01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:49.159 lot of kind of this thing like with Bruce Perry, 1174 01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:50.639 what we were just saying, like there's something that came 1175 01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:52.960 in there and was convincing the kids otherwise, But there 1176 01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:55.840 was actually objective evidence of a bus kind of deal. 1177 01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:57.880 But I'd have to I'd have to revisit it to 1178 01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:00.480 get the well desert rain saying it is all a hoax. 1179 01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:01.800 I don't remember the ens and the outs of it, 1180 01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:03.559 but yeah, there was definitely a hoax aspect to it. 1181 01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:05.440 And I and I think it is these incidents where 1182 01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:08.480 and again I don't remember the details. Seems like it 1183 01:05:08.480 --> 01:05:11.039 seems like it's uh, the over the chat stand it's 1184 01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:14.920 a hoax and uh and uh, it seems like it 1185 01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:16.800 is these incidents we're all told to focus on, right, 1186 01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:18.320 because I think, you know, I haven't seen that anything 1187 01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:19.800 about it in years. But when you said, Hym said, 1188 01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:22.320 I can immediately remember stuff because I feel like we're 1189 01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:26.840 you know, we're rolled out specific instances like that, you 1190 01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:28.760 know what I mean to to weigh in on and 1191 01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:32.480 focus on when we you know, I hadn't read about 1192 01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:34.639 the order of the Solar temple before, I had no idea. 1193 01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:37.199 I hadn't connected I connected the earlier events I had 1194 01:05:37.199 --> 01:05:39.119 never connected the ninety seven events, right, you know what 1195 01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:41.679 I mean? So like we're distracted by a lot of 1196 01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:43.880 set you know, whether a cold activity of a sexual 1197 01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:46.519 abuse variety or were up you know, ancient Illian cardio 1198 01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:51.039 cult variety, which usually are the same thing. Uh, it 1199 01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:53.960 just seems like that we're rolled out very specific things 1200 01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:55.880 to pay attention to. Well, this is a far more 1201 01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:57.719 widespread issue, and it seems like there's a lot of 1202 01:05:57.719 --> 01:06:00.920 comparisons between all these things across distant same time. 1203 01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:01.199 Right. 1204 01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:05.159 Well, there's another one that's really interesting that's involves kids, 1205 01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:11.280 which is the school UFO event in Zimbabwe. Are you 1206 01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:17.239 familiar with this one thing? It's called the Aerial Aerial 1207 01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:24.679 school maybe type in aerial school UFO event. 1208 01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:28.280 What way to what a great place to do with there, 1209 01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:30.280 right Zimbabwe? They've not you know what I mean. It's 1210 01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:32.440 like going to those South Pacific islands. They never seen 1211 01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:35.039 an aircraft drop off cargo. It creates an entire religion, 1212 01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:37.280 you know. 1213 01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:41.599 What I mean, exactly exactly these people don't know what 1214 01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:43.199 what what's actually going on? 1215 01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:45.119 This is ninety four h. 1216 01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:51.679 Yeah, So apparently it's like so John Mack was involved 1217 01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:54.920 in this case and John Mac is a UFO investigator, 1218 01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:58.920 is widely known for investigating UFOs also you know, being 1219 01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:03.559 popular and the regression side of stuff. So he flies 1220 01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:07.320 over to Zimbabwe after he hears about these kids seeing 1221 01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:11.480 this craft outside of the school and these entities come 1222 01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:15.880 out of the craft and supposedly all the kids seeing 1223 01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:19.039 the craft and seeing the entities get out of the think. 1224 01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:23.039 So then John Mac shows up, and John Mack screws 1225 01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:25.679 up and he decides to interview all the kids in 1226 01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:30.199 one lump song yep, okay, So he just gets all 1227 01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:32.960 the kids, gathers all of them. 1228 01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:38.719 Right, all the sixty two pupils. 1229 01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:42.239 Yeah, he interviews all of them in a group. 1230 01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:44.920 Right, all at once, all of one. You have a 1231 01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:46.719 little like red. 1232 01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:47.559 Device from Men in Black, You know what I mean, 1233 01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:49.119 that Will Smith little laser device. 1234 01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:51.400 Well, I mean. 1235 01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:54.599 Almost kind of environment you're painting in that kind of 1236 01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:57.119 environment where you get you're collecting everybody there to either 1237 01:07:57.159 --> 01:07:59.480 erase their memories or insert something into their memories. 1238 01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:02.719 It sounds like, right, Well, that's the thing. That's why 1239 01:08:02.760 --> 01:08:07.480 you don't interview everybody all at one time and in 1240 01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:11.880 one master, because one person can say that they've seen 1241 01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:14.880 something and then that's going to convince all the other 1242 01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:19.600 people that they also seen the same thing. It's like 1243 01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:23.279 the do you remember the I forget what it's an. 1244 01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:26.159 Extreme there's probably some hypnosis going on there right, Like 1245 01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:28.600 they're like, you know, put everybody there, that's what That's 1246 01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:29.800 what I meant by the little red you know, I 1247 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:31.960 was using that more figuratively and as a joke. But 1248 01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:33.800 you know that that way, you do some sort of 1249 01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:36.159 hypnotic situation with the whole group and you can convince 1250 01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:38.000 them all the same thing. It almost reminds me of 1251 01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:40.680 that last Wes Anderson film, you know what I mean, 1252 01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:41.800 the with the UFO. 1253 01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:45.239 Did you ever see that one the West Center or someone? 1254 01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:48.199 Yes, Star City or Astro City or something like that, 1255 01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:50.560 is they had an alien encounter, but then they were like, 1256 01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:52.079 you know, they had a whole group of people trying 1257 01:08:52.119 --> 01:08:53.880 to hypnotize them that they didn't see a kind of 1258 01:08:53.920 --> 01:08:56.079 deal where it sounds like this one they're hypnotizing them 1259 01:08:56.159 --> 01:08:56.880 that they did see it. 1260 01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:04.039 I'm trying to look up this test where someone in 1261 01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:06.239 the chat might know a test I'm talking about. I'll 1262 01:09:06.279 --> 01:09:08.239 just explain it and then maybe you can try and 1263 01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:11.279 look it up. But it's a test where they would 1264 01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:17.119 bring one person into a room, right, and there would 1265 01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:21.880 have six other people that were like that knew that 1266 01:09:21.920 --> 01:09:23.600 they were being a part of the test and that 1267 01:09:23.640 --> 01:09:27.560 they were going to say a specific answer, right, And 1268 01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:31.159 then they would have like a chart or something, and 1269 01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:33.760 then they would be like, okay, well tell me what 1270 01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:38.039 line is higher on the chart than the other line. 1271 01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:43.359 And then the six people that knew what was going 1272 01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:47.359 on said that the taller line was shorter than the 1273 01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:57.279 actual legitimate smaller line exactly. But every single time it 1274 01:09:57.439 --> 01:10:02.520 convinces the person that didn't know what was going on 1275 01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:06.680 that the taller line was actually shorter than the smaller line. 1276 01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:07.359 Yep. 1277 01:10:07.439 --> 01:10:13.159 The Ash conformity experiments there as we're to be that's it. Now, 1278 01:10:13.199 --> 01:10:15.880 that's a great point writer you You you explained as well, 1279 01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:19.000 how folks, you know, adapt to these these things regardless 1280 01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:22.479 of they their own senses tell them otherwise. There's instances 1281 01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:25.039 that they folks find themselves into where they're conforming to 1282 01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:26.359 groups in this nature. 1283 01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:34.840 And they did this ash conformity experiment so many times, bro, 1284 01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:38.119 and it worked every single time. 1285 01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:42.239 Yeah, folks are malleable, right, I mean, look at the 1286 01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:44.720 Milgrim experience, right, They could easily get folks to electro 1287 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:46.840 shock folks even though there was no electro shock. But 1288 01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:50.039 they the person applying the electro shock thought they were 1289 01:10:50.119 --> 01:10:52.920 killing people. They they knew they were giving the level 1290 01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:55.159 of shock to kill the person. They thought they were shocking. 1291 01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:57.600 But they were doing so many because someone was telling 1292 01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:00.000 them to do it. An white lap kip. 1293 01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:03.600 An authority figure, a doctor was telling them that it 1294 01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:05.680 was okay, so they continued to do it. 1295 01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:11.439 Folks can be subjected to these these these you know, 1296 01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:14.920 these circumstances, and they're malible to conform to the in 1297 01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:15.960 these natures. 1298 01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:16.520 That's what I'm saying. 1299 01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:18.560 When you get somebody like this whole group where they're 1300 01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:21.479 trying to convince everyone they saw a UFO versus what 1301 01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:24.039 Wes Anderson there, they were trying to get everyone. They 1302 01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:25.680 got a whole group of folks together trying to like 1303 01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:27.840 hypnotize them and to convince them. They didn't see it 1304 01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:30.800 the alien in the UFO, right, But we're saying in 1305 01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:32.720 the Zimbabwe thing, it's kind of the same deal. But 1306 01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:34.760 I think it's it is that understanding of the mallible 1307 01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:38.520 nature of conformity and the inso you know the psychological 1308 01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:42.159 operation aspect that that you could I think this is plausible. 1309 01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:44.039 I mean that you just you go to a place 1310 01:11:44.079 --> 01:11:46.680 that doesn't know aircraft at all, you know, you'd fly 1311 01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:49.199 something over there. You get all these folks together, these 1312 01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:51.960 these six to twelve year old kids, right, and then 1313 01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:55.399 forty years from now they're telling their grandchildren children grandchildren, Hey, 1314 01:11:55.399 --> 01:11:57.239 you know, we saw this UFO and then suddenly this 1315 01:11:57.319 --> 01:11:59.439 whole culture and war beguns right. 1316 01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:05.359 Yep, all while they are responsible for the entire mythology, 1317 01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:10.520 and they knew that it was bogus all from the jump, 1318 01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:13.439 but it's snowballed so far out of control. 1319 01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:18.079 Kind of sounds like what you're describing with the Air 1320 01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:19.600 Force program, right. 1321 01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:23.239 That they just could not put a lid back on 1322 01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:28.399 it anymore. And then you have these two very well 1323 01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:33.560 respected people that is running arrow, doctor Sean Kapatrick, and 1324 01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:36.119 the I forget what the other guy's name was, but 1325 01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:38.319 that are doing these reports and it is coming on 1326 01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:42.279 and saying that all this stuff is military stuff. It's all. Uh. 1327 01:12:42.079 --> 01:12:46.199 The Pentagon is the ones that are responsible for making 1328 01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:50.920 this garbage up. And people still aren't gonna believe it 1329 01:12:50.920 --> 01:12:56.279 because they're convinced that aliens are real, aliens have been here, 1330 01:12:56.399 --> 01:12:58.840 that they're visiting us, that there's alien bases. 1331 01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:03.199 Right, But you know, I think I think. 1332 01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:10.760 It's gone unchecked for so long. It's gone unchecked for right, all. 1333 01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:15.319 Right, And and that's what I'm saying. 1334 01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:17.439 If we compared to that Zimbab that's a great reference 1335 01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:19.640 when you gave with that Zimbabwe situation, because if that 1336 01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:21.720 was to go unchecked for so long, we can we'd 1337 01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:23.439 see where it is now, to see how it's evolved. 1338 01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:25.600 Even within that that incident. I'm sure there's a culture 1339 01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:28.079 that's going on around it. So it has gone so 1340 01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:30.760 unchecked from now and it's and it's promoted in well 1341 01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:34.319 financed though too, right with the History Channel and sorry, 1342 01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:37.279 the Ancient Aliens Cargo Cult channel aka the History Channel. 1343 01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:42.159 Yeah, that's been a part of the plan since the 1344 01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:46.640 very beginning, I mean, and then now it doesn't matter 1345 01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:50.199 what they say, right because they've caused so much confusion 1346 01:13:50.439 --> 01:13:54.800 and so many different theories that have popped up since 1347 01:13:55.359 --> 01:13:59.399 all this stuff has went down, that it doesn't matter 1348 01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:01.359 what they say. 1349 01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:03.319 Oh for sure, dude, for sure. 1350 01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:08.399 And it seems like on top of the well financed situations, 1351 01:14:08.439 --> 01:14:11.319 and you know, the government operations around these things. Again, 1352 01:14:11.399 --> 01:14:14.079 the spooky Cargo cult and Sheil and Cargo cult stuff 1353 01:14:14.159 --> 01:14:16.479 keeps round, you know, popping their ugly heads. And it's 1354 01:14:16.520 --> 01:14:19.640 always the same composition of people. You see, the Grace 1355 01:14:19.720 --> 01:14:23.159 Kelly element of society versus the you know, the lower 1356 01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:25.399 rungs from you know, they would consider them. Again, I 1357 01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:28.680 think there's something to be said about these quote unquote 1358 01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:32.399 elite folks that are recruiting folks that they considered lower 1359 01:14:32.439 --> 01:14:36.600 class to apparently richly human sacrifice because you know, while 1360 01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:39.159 Grace Kelly meets an untimely demise, that seems with the 1361 01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:42.880 you know, the possible of that cult being involved, she 1362 01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:45.239 didn't die in the mass suicides, right, I mean what 1363 01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:47.319 I'm saying you never see those that level of You 1364 01:14:47.359 --> 01:14:50.000 don't see the what was it the Princess of Oxenburg, 1365 01:14:50.039 --> 01:14:51.399 who's part of the next seem cult. 1366 01:14:51.399 --> 01:14:54.319 You don't see her, you know, getting branded and you know, 1367 01:14:54.600 --> 01:14:55.199 mk ultured. 1368 01:14:55.239 --> 01:14:57.399 You know, it just seems like there's a there's a 1369 01:14:57.479 --> 01:14:59.880 there's even a class you know, system or cast as 1370 01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:01.960 within these cults. 1371 01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:07.680 Yeah, it's a hierarchical structure, just like that the entities, 1372 01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:11.039 uh you know, is going to come and save humanity. 1373 01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:13.279 That's going to save us from this big natural disaster, 1374 01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:16.439 that's going to fix all this stuff. We just got 1375 01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:19.159 to get in contact with them, and then they'll come 1376 01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:26.079 and save us from ourselves. They claim that those entities 1377 01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:31.960 and those beings are also in like a hierarchical structure 1378 01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:32.399 as well. 1379 01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:36.439 I think I'm I think I'm asched together Katherine Oxenburg 1380 01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:40.000 and Prince whatever princess she's from into the one Princess 1381 01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:46.000 of Oxenburg. That's Prince Andrew and King Charles's first cousin, 1382 01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:52.199 I believe, possibly second cousin. Now it's first cousin first. Yes, 1383 01:15:52.840 --> 01:15:55.920 In's Black Book, she and her daughter are part of 1384 01:15:55.960 --> 01:15:58.079 the cult. Now, I think her daughter did get part, 1385 01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:01.520 she got brought in. I think the deal I think 1386 01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:03.399 I'm not. I don't know if she got the you know, 1387 01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:06.800 the full blown you know branding right, but that her 1388 01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:10.520 mother allegedly quit the cult and allegedly saves her. Speaking 1389 01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:13.960 of folks who got brandings, not uh and the the 1390 01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:16.680 the widespread nature of I think these ancient alien car 1391 01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:20.960 cultists their their power and finances behind it. Stormy Daniels 1392 01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:22.880 I would argue was a member of the nex cult 1393 01:16:22.880 --> 01:16:27.840 in the DS their upper euchline of sex slaves. You 1394 01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:30.319 famib with Stormy Daniels, remember her from the Russia Gates stuff. 1395 01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:34.119 She literally tweeted it out. 1396 01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:34.359 Pale from Trump. 1397 01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:38.039 Yeah, she literally tweeted out back. Well there's I mean, 1398 01:16:38.079 --> 01:16:39.560 there could be a lot to be said about connections 1399 01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:43.079 there because Roger Stone got hired as a lobbyist for Nexium. 1400 01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:47.479 So but uh uh Stormy Daniels literally tweeted out back 1401 01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:51.000 in my twenty eleven yo, yo, folks, are you know? Yo, peeps, 1402 01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:52.960 I got I just joined a cult, you know. And 1403 01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.600 then later she gets a tattoo to cover up what 1404 01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:58.079 looks to be ADS branding right on her navel where 1405 01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:00.880 the rest of the sex Slaves get the the Keithniery 1406 01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:05.520 and Alison mac branding. So it seems like she may 1407 01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:07.880 have been a member of Nexium. 1408 01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:11.199 Possibly still is because that cult. All these cults continue 1409 01:17:11.239 --> 01:17:14.319 right or the Order of the Solar Temple, the Heaven's Gate. 1410 01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:15.960 I don't know what the Branch Davidians are up to 1411 01:17:16.039 --> 01:17:18.279 these days, but I assure you the Nexium thrives. 1412 01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:26.800 Yeah, it seems like they just rebrand, rename, go further underground. 1413 01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:31.119 If they get more popularity than what they're used to, 1414 01:17:31.159 --> 01:17:36.279 if they get wide media attention, it is rebranded and 1415 01:17:36.359 --> 01:17:40.640 go deeper and further underground so that their activity is 1416 01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:48.439 and they have a very devoted following. Ultra super Mega Secret. 1417 01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:53.279 No, for sure, and I think a lot of times again, 1418 01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:55.239 I don't think these people are brilliant. I think again, 1419 01:17:55.279 --> 01:17:57.920 as I was explaining that they're trying to achieve goals, 1420 01:17:57.960 --> 01:18:01.359 like the folks in that Pacific island doing these ritual dances, 1421 01:18:01.399 --> 01:18:03.439 trying to give the g I. Joe planes to come back, 1422 01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:05.600 fly over and drop them new more food and supplies. 1423 01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:09.279 It doesn't matter how many wooden aircraft replicas they build. 1424 01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:11.760 If there's these you know, god crafts that drop the 1425 01:18:11.800 --> 01:18:14.640 stuff to them, and these South Pacific cargo cults that 1426 01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:17.000 formed after the World War Two, it doesn't matter how 1427 01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:18.720 many times they dance or how many times they build 1428 01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:19.119 these crafts. 1429 01:18:19.159 --> 01:18:19.800 That's what I'm saying. 1430 01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:21.960 The people that are making these decisions when when they're 1431 01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:24.439 rolling these things up and bearing them under you know, 1432 01:18:24.479 --> 01:18:29.199 auspices of national security, it seems with some of these cults, right, so, 1433 01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:32.239 it just seems like these are just one fuck up 1434 01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:34.319 after one fuck up. Right, these are people that are 1435 01:18:34.319 --> 01:18:37.039 trying to achieve goals that aren't achievable. They're out here 1436 01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:39.800 dancing around trying to get gi Jo to drop more supplies. 1437 01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:42.079 You see what I'm saying. You know, like their actions 1438 01:18:42.079 --> 01:18:44.279 and activities, we try to make reasonable sense out of it, right, 1439 01:18:44.319 --> 01:18:45.600 We're like, well, that doesn't make a lot of sense, 1440 01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:48.279 but like I assure you, like their decision making ability 1441 01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:49.159 should be questioned. 1442 01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:58.119 Lucy says, this fact that the Heaven's Skate Coat is 1443 01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:01.279 still up and running is what are well the website 1444 01:19:01.880 --> 01:19:07.479 that was a whole ordeal from the very beginning. Two 1445 01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:12.720 people were to be spared, Oh I get balloons. 1446 01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:13.279 Peace. 1447 01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:19.520 That they have its gated? Do they bropen balloons on us? 1448 01:19:21.159 --> 01:19:28.159 Chinese spa balloons? Bro, But two people were to be 1449 01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:33.680 spared from joining the extraterrestrials on the ship into the 1450 01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:39.279 next evolutionary level above human in order to continue to 1451 01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:43.640 carry the message of Marshall apple White and the Heaven's. 1452 01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:46.199 Gate cult right, keep the mission going. 1453 01:19:47.199 --> 01:19:52.640 So the website is still the exact same website as 1454 01:19:52.680 --> 01:19:59.039 it was in the late nineties. Nothing has changed. It's 1455 01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:04.159 been preserved, and that was supposed to be. These two 1456 01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:10.800 people's mission being left behind on Earth was to continue 1457 01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:18.479 to run the website and respond to emails and any questions. 1458 01:20:19.800 --> 01:20:21.760 I think recruits. 1459 01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:23.640 I mean, I'm sure they got to recruit at some point, 1460 01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:26.159 even like if someone called them and wrote them and 1461 01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:27.640 like you did, and they run the back like, hey, 1462 01:20:27.640 --> 01:20:29.319 I like your seventeen rules or whatever? 1463 01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:30.920 Can I join? Like, I'm sure they wouldn't say. 1464 01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:34.640 Now they have said no. They said no several times. 1465 01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:38.399 They are really yeah. Yeah, people have reached out to 1466 01:20:38.439 --> 01:20:38.960 them like that. 1467 01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:44.199 They're like, no, maybe maybe there's more esoteric entrances into 1468 01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:45.079 their into their cult. 1469 01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:50.119 Yeah, you might have to do some other things, but no. 1470 01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:52.960 You gotta chot your dick off and you gotta show 1471 01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:55.439 up there and show them it's gone. You like, look, look, 1472 01:20:55.439 --> 01:20:56.680 I'm a Unich. Can I get in? 1473 01:20:57.760 --> 01:20:58.359 Have you had it? 1474 01:20:58.439 --> 01:20:59.239 A old move? 1475 01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:01.680 It's a bold move. I understand, I understand. 1476 01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:04.239 Do you have both of your balls? 1477 01:21:04.760 --> 01:21:05.159 Kind sir? 1478 01:21:06.399 --> 01:21:12.720 You're out of here, buddy, You don't qualify. That's too good. 1479 01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:16.159 So here's that quote before I forget. I found that 1480 01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:20.319 quote about I like your your theory and where how 1481 01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:24.079 may this quote may be construed? I think is a 1482 01:21:24.079 --> 01:21:28.520 good one, the order of the Solar Temple being relative 1483 01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:31.760 to a Branch Davidian business. That is so it was 1484 01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:35.319 from this this is the quote I'll read in a second, 1485 01:21:35.319 --> 01:21:41.159 but it's from this thing called our terrestrial journey is 1486 01:21:41.199 --> 01:21:45.000 coming to an end, the last voyage of the Solar Temple, 1487 01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:48.760 which was some sort of scholarly effort back from nineteen 1488 01:21:48.840 --> 01:21:52.600 ninety nine into the matter. So, and the quote is 1489 01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:57.159 see sometime in early nineteen ninety four. 1490 01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:02.399 It says that in a tape likely. 1491 01:22:02.239 --> 01:22:05.760 Dating to early ninety four, Giray and the Demandbro discussed 1492 01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:09.319 the Waco siege, saying that the Branch Davidians had quote 1493 01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:13.399 unquote beaten us to the punch, with Demandbro telling Giray 1494 01:22:13.479 --> 01:22:18.520 that what we'll do will be even more spectacular. So, 1495 01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:21.760 I don't know scraunchs for the research. I just thought 1496 01:22:21.760 --> 01:22:24.039 that was the first time I'd ever even seen those 1497 01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:28.520 two things connected, because they're ninety their ninety four thing, right, 1498 01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:30.800 or I'm sorry, ninety three, right? So when was their 1499 01:22:30.840 --> 01:22:32.880 first suicide? Now again in ninety three, right, I keep 1500 01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:35.880 getting that confused. Ninety three in Switzerland, he said, right, 1501 01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:39.479 this was ninety four, This was this was not their 1502 01:22:39.479 --> 01:22:41.520 first one. I don't think this is the ninety four one. 1503 01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:44.600 That's when that that's when the that's when the leaders died. 1504 01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:46.279 There was one before the leaders died though. 1505 01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:50.520 Right, No, I don't think so this one was the 1506 01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:53.479 first one, was the one where the leaders died, and 1507 01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:55.039 then the other two came. 1508 01:22:55.840 --> 01:22:56.439 You're right, ye. 1509 01:22:56.840 --> 01:22:59.560 Five in France, you know, and then ninety seven can 1510 01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:02.000 do you? So this is well after, I mean, that's 1511 01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:03.800 what I'm saying. I don't know what the celestial events 1512 01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:05.800 may be. I mean, it's something I'll look into, I suppose, 1513 01:23:05.840 --> 01:23:09.000 but you know, you know, it's always serious with these 1514 01:23:09.039 --> 01:23:11.560 people though, so I feel like there's something has to 1515 01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:14.359 be serious adjacent or relative to these dates that even 1516 01:23:14.399 --> 01:23:16.239 the dates they chose, right, you know, the dates saying 1517 01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:17.720 she's choosing anyway, right. 1518 01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:18.680 Well, that's what they saw. 1519 01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:22.399 I don't know if Waco has any relations. 1520 01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:28.279 That the aliens from the Serious Star system was going 1521 01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:32.680 to come and save them. So then you need to 1522 01:23:32.720 --> 01:23:35.640 transfer over into the next life. 1523 01:23:36.359 --> 01:23:38.479 And that kind of comes from that theosophy I am 1524 01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:42.960 backgrounds right, they're both doing the Serious star warship. 1525 01:23:42.680 --> 01:23:47.359 Right, Sirious Sodern. 1526 01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:52.159 Mormons love sirious they got, they got you know, their 1527 01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:55.840 god col Their god lives on colab next to the star, sirius. 1528 01:23:57.960 --> 01:24:01.439 What's the other Venus Mars? A lot of the cults, 1529 01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:07.840 I would say that Jesus was from Venus, and Krishna 1530 01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:10.960 was from Venus, and but Buddha was from our like 1531 01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:12.399 they have like all these. 1532 01:24:12.439 --> 01:24:14.800 Is that Venus worship as a result of Venus being 1533 01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:16.720 you know in the night sky. You think, you know, 1534 01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:19.319 relative to like the whole kind of concepts around the 1535 01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:21.960 you know, the why Lucifer is the falling star relative 1536 01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:23.039 to the celestial worship. 1537 01:24:24.399 --> 01:24:28.000 Yeah, that's why people believe that the morning star is 1538 01:24:28.159 --> 01:24:31.399 actually Venus. But I don't believe that that's the case. 1539 01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:34.720 I think that the morning star is the brightest star 1540 01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:40.560 in the sky that rises every single freaking day and 1541 01:24:40.680 --> 01:24:47.199 sets every single freaking night. That's the morning star is 1542 01:24:47.199 --> 01:24:47.640 the sun? 1543 01:24:50.520 --> 01:24:51.840 Right, it makes more way more. 1544 01:24:52.319 --> 01:24:55.920 I'm tracking. I'm just looking up some gates and whenever. 1545 01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:58.359 You think of you know, the you know sun god 1546 01:24:58.439 --> 01:25:03.000 worship and how Jesus, the son of God su in 1547 01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:06.960 not o in the sun gives us life. 1548 01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:13.000 Yes, sir no, I'm tracking now. 1549 01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:14.119 I think I think that's where a lot of this 1550 01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:15.880 stuff comes from because it is the It's the bear 1551 01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:18.720 of life, right, I mean, that's where the Why wouldn't 1552 01:25:18.720 --> 01:25:21.199 folks worship that, that aspect of the sky rant with 1553 01:25:21.239 --> 01:25:24.800 the things that provide them life? Uh dude, So what 1554 01:25:24.800 --> 01:25:25.640 what were they going to? 1555 01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:26.239 New series? 1556 01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:28.680 So it says it was the Heaven's Gate was going 1557 01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:31.119 to a higher level of existence, like you're saying specifically 1558 01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:32.680 for a planet near series? 1559 01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:33.479 Is it? Cob? 1560 01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:40.840 Were they doing Mormon stuff? And I didn't even realize it? 1561 01:25:40.960 --> 01:25:43.640 And then they traveled around everywhere to figure out everything, 1562 01:25:44.479 --> 01:25:49.479 So they definitely could have incorporated some Morning belief systems 1563 01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:51.359 into the foundation of their cult. 1564 01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:53.920 No, I think. 1565 01:25:53.960 --> 01:25:55.439 So, you know, I like that's the way. I like 1566 01:25:55.479 --> 01:25:57.359 the way you frame that with your cult burritos. You 1567 01:25:57.720 --> 01:26:00.000 you frame that as that's what all these cults do, right, 1568 01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:01.800 They go around to pick up the ones they want, 1569 01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:05.319 the concepts and principles from other cults, and they're like, 1570 01:26:05.319 --> 01:26:07.279 we're gonna do it this way though, right in their 1571 01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:08.119 own form of brito. 1572 01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:11.680 Huh yeah, good old called Burrito bro. 1573 01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:15.560 So most of the Holy Rollers came from this colt, 1574 01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:18.119 I'm sorry, most of the Heaven's Gate came from this cult, 1575 01:26:18.159 --> 01:26:19.520 the Holy Rollers. 1576 01:26:22.479 --> 01:26:24.479 So when we're talking about we're talking about these. 1577 01:26:24.319 --> 01:26:27.520 Things, the Holy Rollers out of the state. 1578 01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:30.800 Yeah, so this is an interesting tale. So they got 1579 01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:34.159 banished out of Corvellous Oregon ring or Corvallis orgon right. 1580 01:26:34.560 --> 01:26:37.680 That's where the Heaven's Gate Colts first meeting was was 1581 01:26:37.720 --> 01:26:38.319 in Oregon. 1582 01:26:39.560 --> 01:26:41.720 So what happens is and this is this is let 1583 01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:43.439 me just say how I got here before we go 1584 01:26:43.479 --> 01:26:46.600 down that rabbit hole here real quick. So I took 1585 01:26:46.600 --> 01:26:48.960 an analysis some big fan of Dave McGowan's work took 1586 01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:51.319 an analysis of his weird scenes inside the Canyon. 1587 01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:53.760 You know, I heard I heard of my podcast years ago. 1588 01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:56.119 Someone some host asked them, why don't you apply these 1589 01:26:56.159 --> 01:26:59.199 same principles and concepts to you know, the grunge music scene, 1590 01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:00.760 And he said, well, that's not my scene. And he'said 1591 01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:02.079 I was a big fan of the hippie scene. I 1592 01:27:02.159 --> 01:27:03.279 was like, well, shit, I'm a big fan of the 1593 01:27:03.279 --> 01:27:04.960 grun scene. I'm a big fan of this book. 1594 01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:05.399 I'll do that. 1595 01:27:05.439 --> 01:27:08.239 I'll apply the principles of this book to the grun scene. 1596 01:27:08.239 --> 01:27:11.600 And they're fucking identical first and foremost. So I you 1597 01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:14.359 know that series I do here on operations GCD. I 1598 01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:16.039 go over some of those details and I call it 1599 01:27:16.079 --> 01:27:19.800 weird scene or I'm sorry, smells like Laurel Canyon, you know, 1600 01:27:20.279 --> 01:27:22.720 smells like teen Spirit Nirvana, but weird scenes inside of 1601 01:27:22.720 --> 01:27:26.159 the canyon. So in doing that research, I was just 1602 01:27:26.199 --> 01:27:28.399 looking at the history of Pike's Place and I discovered 1603 01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:31.760 that the Heaven's Gate cult had bought a brick and 1604 01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:34.520 when they redid renovations of Pike Place, and like I 1605 01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:37.319 think around the early eighties, they you know, they five 1606 01:27:37.399 --> 01:27:39.600 hundred bucks wherever you sponsored the you know, they put 1607 01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:41.000 your name on a brick type of deal there in 1608 01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:44.800 Pike's Place Market in Seattle. The brick they purchased, though, 1609 01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:49.039 was the site of this guy's murder, strangely enough, Edmund 1610 01:27:49.079 --> 01:27:52.520 Craffield And in nine was it nineteen seventy two, like 1611 01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:54.600 you were saying, that's where they went to go recruit everybody. 1612 01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:56.840 So these folks, this cult gets. 1613 01:27:56.640 --> 01:28:00.119 Banished from Corvallis in the nineteen thirties, I think, and 1614 01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.880 then they get banished to a city or on the coastline. 1615 01:28:03.319 --> 01:28:05.600 And it's that city on the coastline that Marshall apple 1616 01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:08.000 White and his nurse from that mental facility in Texas, 1617 01:28:08.399 --> 01:28:10.800 make a bee line two from Texas to go recruit 1618 01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:14.199 their cult. They rent out the conference room in the 1619 01:28:14.239 --> 01:28:17.199 local hotel, but the most of that town is comprised 1620 01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:21.159 of the descendants of this cult right here, the Holy Rollers. 1621 01:28:22.279 --> 01:28:22.880 That's wild. 1622 01:28:23.239 --> 01:28:26.239 I didn't know that, yeah, dude, So it paints like 1623 01:28:26.279 --> 01:28:28.479 this weird narrative, like we're saying like there's these kind 1624 01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:31.000 of you know, these connecting princips between these cults and 1625 01:28:31.039 --> 01:28:33.720 then they continue to be ongoing despite cult leaders dying. 1626 01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:35.439 Little shit, dude, there seems like it'd be like a 1627 01:28:35.439 --> 01:28:37.560 whole lineage of some of these colts, like the like 1628 01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:41.439 those guys, so the Holy Roller or Heaven's Gate. Yeah, 1629 01:28:41.439 --> 01:28:44.399 it's weird, right, Like, why what are your thoughts on 1630 01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:47.880 the whole aspect of apple White and uh and his 1631 01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:51.000 nurse being the leaving a mental institution even start the thing? 1632 01:28:51.079 --> 01:28:55.840 Right, Well, that's the whole contention of this thing, is 1633 01:28:55.880 --> 01:29:00.840 that Bonnie Nuttles meets Marshall apple White, but they never 1634 01:29:01.159 --> 01:29:07.039 verified exactly how they met, right, with varying stories on 1635 01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:13.439 how they met. Marshall has said several like given different 1636 01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:18.319 explanations each time he talked about the story. One time, 1637 01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:22.520 it was that he was visiting a friend in a hospital. 1638 01:29:23.039 --> 01:29:26.439 Bonnie Nettles was a nurse at the hospital. That's how 1639 01:29:26.479 --> 01:29:29.600 they met and that's how they connected. Another version of 1640 01:29:29.640 --> 01:29:32.560 the story is that he was in a mental institution 1641 01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:37.520 where Bonnie Nettles was a nurse and that's how they 1642 01:29:37.560 --> 01:29:38.000 met up. 1643 01:29:38.840 --> 01:29:39.119 Yep. 1644 01:29:39.479 --> 01:29:44.079 So it's like, yeah, can we not get exactly what 1645 01:29:44.239 --> 01:29:45.159 it like? How can you not? 1646 01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:49.600 How is that you guys don't know how you met exactly. 1647 01:29:50.439 --> 01:29:55.159 It's weird. But Bonnie no convinced them of a lot 1648 01:29:55.159 --> 01:29:57.000 of this stuff, right. 1649 01:29:58.399 --> 01:30:00.119 You beat me to the puncher that was big of 1650 01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:01.760 beaten folks of the punch between the Order of the 1651 01:30:01.800 --> 01:30:04.720 Solar Temple and the Branch Davidians. You beat me to 1652 01:30:04.760 --> 01:30:07.119 the punch there because she seemed like a handler, right. 1653 01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:10.720 Yeah, she's the one that was like, yeah, we were 1654 01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:13.920 We would have been together since you were g We're 1655 01:30:14.039 --> 01:30:17.800 the two candlesticks from the Book of Revelation. You were 1656 01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:20.399 Jesus in a past life. I was Mary Magdalene. We've 1657 01:30:20.439 --> 01:30:23.000 been together for centuries and now that we're back together, 1658 01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:29.760 we got to get our followers together, like, oh. 1659 01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:31.920 I know, right, Like you go back to the reincarnated 1660 01:30:31.920 --> 01:30:33.600 lives and all these things that they always do. I mean, no, 1661 01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:35.760 Saint Germaine, I don't think in that circumstance, but it's 1662 01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:38.359 just the same in the same respect, I guess I got. 1663 01:30:38.359 --> 01:30:40.279 I got a quick video here on the Heaven's gay 1664 01:30:40.319 --> 01:30:43.279 recruitment here. Let's uh, let's watch this real fast. 1665 01:30:44.840 --> 01:30:47.640 They never asked us to give them anything. They just 1666 01:30:47.720 --> 01:30:49.760 asked us to deal with ourselves. 1667 01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:54.159 Robert Rubin first noticed that message on posters around town. 1668 01:30:54.479 --> 01:30:58.319 Posters also about UFOs, aliens and life at a new level. 1669 01:30:58.760 --> 01:31:02.920 They use the analogy up the butterfly, from the caterpillar 1670 01:31:03.039 --> 01:31:06.279 to the cocoon to the butterfly, and they said that 1671 01:31:06.560 --> 01:31:09.439 human beings were like that, and we had to we 1672 01:31:09.439 --> 01:31:12.800 could go through a change and get to the next level. 1673 01:31:13.159 --> 01:31:15.520 The message came from a couple self named the Two, 1674 01:31:16.039 --> 01:31:19.560 Marshall Applewhite and his wife Bonnie Nettles. Ruben and fifteen 1675 01:31:19.600 --> 01:31:22.920 other Wallport residents joined the two, gave away their belongings 1676 01:31:22.960 --> 01:31:24.920 and disappeared to travel the west. 1677 01:31:25.680 --> 01:31:28.680 You know, we went around trying to get more so. 1678 01:31:29.039 --> 01:31:31.880 Those people that joined were descendants of that Holy rollers 1679 01:31:31.920 --> 01:31:34.560 Colt and I almost feel like there was some sort 1680 01:31:34.600 --> 01:31:36.479 of message to Nettles. 1681 01:31:36.359 --> 01:31:38.760 And apple White that they would were to go to 1682 01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:41.000 that town to recruit out of that golt. 1683 01:31:42.199 --> 01:31:45.640 And if you probably continued listening to that interview, he 1684 01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:49.239 would say that the first whenever he went into the 1685 01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:51.439 place in Oregon and met them for the first time, 1686 01:31:51.479 --> 01:31:55.800 it would be like that he was setting next to 1687 01:31:55.960 --> 01:31:59.479 Jesus Christ. And like Mary Magdalene, I. 1688 01:31:59.439 --> 01:32:01.399 Find that y are to believe a circumstance where I 1689 01:32:01.399 --> 01:32:03.279 would ever be sitting next to Marshall apple Way and 1690 01:32:03.359 --> 01:32:07.119 think of him anything other than looking like a crazy hobo. 1691 01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:10.720 He's got some crazy dude. 1692 01:32:11.079 --> 01:32:14.000 He never never even in them older pictures, he don't 1693 01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:16.119 look great, you know what I mean. As a younger man, 1694 01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:24.640 No bro, he'd look like, oh dude, Yeah, As I 1695 01:32:24.640 --> 01:32:26.600 was saying, we don't know when that exactly occurred, maybe 1696 01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:27.600 he had that for a while. 1697 01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:29.479 He was just trying to make everyone else match him, right. 1698 01:32:30.319 --> 01:32:33.479 So I really do enjoy the questions you asked around 1699 01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:35.680 if we can kind of shift over to some JFK stuff. 1700 01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:37.920 I don't like the questions. 1701 01:32:37.600 --> 01:32:39.640 You you present there in your documentary, and I'd like 1702 01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:42.840 to discuss some of that stuff. You know, and you know, 1703 01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:44.359 get in a little bit of that, But what are 1704 01:32:44.399 --> 01:32:47.399 your thoughts in all the ancient cargo cult connections to 1705 01:32:47.439 --> 01:32:49.000 the JFK situation with you know. 1706 01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:51.560 The whole you know, the sands of the nine, that 1707 01:32:51.640 --> 01:32:52.159 kind of stuff. 1708 01:32:52.159 --> 01:32:53.800 Did you have you ever gotten too much into that 1709 01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:57.960 relative to the the lineage of those how that connects 1710 01:32:57.960 --> 01:33:00.600 to those JFK bis deard Rain. 1711 01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:03.840 I think Marshall Applewhite was gay. I think so too, 1712 01:33:03.920 --> 01:33:06.720 Desert Rain, and that's probably why he tried to convince 1713 01:33:06.760 --> 01:33:10.840 everybody to be androgynous. All were of the same thing. 1714 01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:13.920 Have the women cut their hair short, men cut their beards. 1715 01:33:15.119 --> 01:33:20.439 Because he was ashamed of being gay. He didn't want 1716 01:33:20.479 --> 01:33:24.000 to come out and say, oh guess what, guys, I'm gay, 1717 01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:27.840 so I'm going to make you all conform to everything that. 1718 01:33:28.960 --> 01:33:32.319 I mean, what he was having his followers doing is 1719 01:33:34.079 --> 01:33:36.960 kind of what has played out in the past ten 1720 01:33:37.039 --> 01:33:41.279 years in reality. 1721 01:33:42.439 --> 01:33:45.159 As far as the eunuchs and the transitionings and the 1722 01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:48.600 I think a lot of that goes back to cargo 1723 01:33:48.640 --> 01:33:50.199 cold ideals. And I think we can bring up a 1724 01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:51.479 good point because you look at a lot of this 1725 01:33:51.960 --> 01:33:57.279 transgender business seems to be wholly adapted in the neo 1726 01:33:57.479 --> 01:34:00.520 process theologies, which I would argue is in other ancient 1727 01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:04.880 alien cargo cult, not simply as it's an offshoot of scientology. 1728 01:34:04.960 --> 01:34:10.560 We're part of scientology for that matter. But they embrace 1729 01:34:10.600 --> 01:34:11.560 all trans business. 1730 01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:17.399 Right. It seems to be going hand in hand, it does. 1731 01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:19.319 I mean that seems to be like the whole thing. 1732 01:34:19.359 --> 01:34:20.880 And then when you look at the way that they 1733 01:34:20.920 --> 01:34:23.640 were all and he also renamed all the people too. 1734 01:34:23.720 --> 01:34:27.920 He gave them different names. He combined the first three 1735 01:34:28.039 --> 01:34:30.920 or four letters of the name with the with odie. 1736 01:34:32.479 --> 01:34:34.520 So your name, if you were in the Heaven's Gate 1737 01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:41.800 Call would be Jodi Ryotil. 1738 01:34:43.279 --> 01:34:44.680 You got to get a haircut, you got to get 1739 01:34:44.720 --> 01:34:45.239 a new name. 1740 01:34:45.399 --> 01:34:47.720 That's these are these are your simple cult rules, right, 1741 01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:49.159 That's that's basic stuff. 1742 01:34:48.960 --> 01:34:54.000 Right, And what do we want to do now? We 1743 01:34:54.079 --> 01:35:01.079 want to rename ourselves, name ourselves. We want to make 1744 01:35:01.119 --> 01:35:05.760 ourselves different genders. It's almost like the Heaven's Gate Call 1745 01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:08.239 was a giant experiment proto. 1746 01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:11.720 Yeah, like a proto, like a field test, right, you 1747 01:35:11.760 --> 01:35:14.199 know you know what I mean, Like you didn't roll 1748 01:35:14.239 --> 01:35:16.359 out of new product, you gotta field test that product, right, 1749 01:35:16.640 --> 01:35:20.199 or multiple field tests across various different markets. You see 1750 01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:21.760 what I'm saying when the order of the solar temple 1751 01:35:21.800 --> 01:35:24.439 situation too, right, Like if McDonald's wants to roll out 1752 01:35:24.439 --> 01:35:26.079 of new menu item, they put it, they put one 1753 01:35:26.119 --> 01:35:28.359 in like you know, they got an east coast market 1754 01:35:28.399 --> 01:35:31.399 they test, and they got the east side, midwest, the Columbus, 1755 01:35:31.399 --> 01:35:33.319 they got the west side midwest of Kansas City. 1756 01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:35.239 And I think the San Diego. 1757 01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:37.399 Market is what they're a large West coast market for 1758 01:35:37.439 --> 01:35:40.079 test beds for for just like fast food stuff for example. Right, 1759 01:35:40.399 --> 01:35:42.119 I'm saying that they got a test market for this 1760 01:35:42.319 --> 01:35:45.000 for this stuff too, right. Maybe it's San Diego, Maybe 1761 01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:47.439 it's French, you know at Quebec, maybe it's ever in 1762 01:35:47.439 --> 01:35:48.680 France Land and in Switzerland. 1763 01:35:48.720 --> 01:35:49.079 You know what I mean. 1764 01:35:49.079 --> 01:35:51.560 They you know, they get they got to diversify their portfolios, 1765 01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:52.039 if you will. 1766 01:35:52.840 --> 01:35:55.760 But then when you look at like Jim Jones as well, 1767 01:35:56.079 --> 01:35:59.439 you can find tons of connections there between Jim Jones 1768 01:35:59.560 --> 01:36:04.800 and the sea and that being a giant. Yeah, CIA operation, 1769 01:36:07.800 --> 01:36:08.920 the mind control for. 1770 01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:11.880 Sure, for sure. Yeah, these things go hand in hand. 1771 01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:14.359 We often I think they're often described sometimes even by 1772 01:36:14.439 --> 01:36:16.399 I'm sure you're self and myself here, but they often 1773 01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:18.760 described separately, but I think there are many respects the 1774 01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:21.319 same same with this comment. They're by your favorite uncle, 1775 01:36:21.359 --> 01:36:24.039 thank you, sir. Trans ideology to Baphoan worship as well. 1776 01:36:24.079 --> 01:36:27.199 So this is a major figure the neo process movement 1777 01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:31.880 was Genesis Porch there and as we're saying, you're not 1778 01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:34.960 even just transgenderedism, the elimination of gender, this androgynoist nature. 1779 01:36:34.960 --> 01:36:36.560 But he went ahead and got some breast in plants. 1780 01:36:36.600 --> 01:36:38.760 I don't think he locked his dick off, at least 1781 01:36:38.760 --> 01:36:41.520 not by any public declaration, you know, like when Bruce 1782 01:36:41.560 --> 01:36:44.199 Jenner was offended when Barbara Walters asked him if he 1783 01:36:44.279 --> 01:36:46.039 chopped his dick off. You know, I don't think there 1784 01:36:46.079 --> 01:36:49.279 was any incident like that with old Genesis here. But nonetheless, uh, 1785 01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:52.239 the Satanic Temple appears to be a you know, a 1786 01:36:52.319 --> 01:36:55.359 process and all shoot and you know, by their own 1787 01:36:55.399 --> 01:36:57.920 accords and their own statements and their own websites, process 1788 01:36:58.039 --> 01:37:00.760 dot org being one of them, the pie scope being 1789 01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:03.600 other evidence of that. But it is is them that 1790 01:37:04.279 --> 01:37:07.640 they use that They've used the bathrome symbols their you know, 1791 01:37:07.640 --> 01:37:09.760 their main logo, and I think that is once again 1792 01:37:10.079 --> 01:37:12.439 representation of what we're seeing with Genesis Pures, they're in 1793 01:37:12.479 --> 01:37:15.520 the same same ideals and concepts that we see permeating 1794 01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:18.079 through a lot of these anciently and cargo cults since 1795 01:37:18.119 --> 01:37:21.119 Heaven's Gate, since the test market. 1796 01:37:21.239 --> 01:37:25.960 Right, let me see that carried out into the Love 1797 01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:29.399 as One cult as well, where it's almost identically to 1798 01:37:31.119 --> 01:37:33.760 the Heaven's Gate cult, but it's more. But it's just 1799 01:37:33.880 --> 01:37:39.600 one individual, you know, like where she's like, whenever I die, 1800 01:37:39.640 --> 01:37:41.920 I'm going to ascend into the fifth dimension. I am 1801 01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:44.560 God reincarnated. I am that. 1802 01:37:44.720 --> 01:37:52.880 I am right. There's you know, these ideas doing what's 1803 01:37:52.880 --> 01:37:54.680 that I said? 1804 01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:56.439 I am as? 1805 01:37:56.479 --> 01:38:00.239 I am well these ideas, I mean they do you 1806 01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:03.920 have a very again, speaking of the marketing, the psychological operations, 1807 01:38:04.039 --> 01:38:06.960 I do think that these are well orchestrated and crafted things. 1808 01:38:06.960 --> 01:38:10.000 There's a comment there about none of these cults being organic. 1809 01:38:10.079 --> 01:38:12.279 I agree with that these are frameworks and playbooks. The 1810 01:38:12.279 --> 01:38:14.560 reason we could compare these things is because there's a framework, 1811 01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:17.520 there's a psychological operation and a playbook that is being 1812 01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:19.359 played out here that they know is successful. 1813 01:38:19.359 --> 01:38:20.800 And why change the recipe? Right? 1814 01:38:24.399 --> 01:38:26.720 Yeah, If it works, it works, continue to do. 1815 01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:31.199 So. 1816 01:38:31.239 --> 01:38:35.359 In regards to you know, all of the other alien 1817 01:38:35.399 --> 01:38:39.800 ancient alien cargo cult stuff around. JFK, what what are 1818 01:38:39.800 --> 01:38:41.680 your thoughts on those connections with the Nine to that 1819 01:38:41.800 --> 01:38:43.640 to that business. 1820 01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:49.439 Are you talking about the the what do they call 1821 01:38:49.560 --> 01:38:52.119 the not the Order of Nine but the Council of Nine. 1822 01:38:52.720 --> 01:38:55.119 Yeah, that's seance that went want. It went on in 1823 01:38:55.199 --> 01:38:57.960 Maine in nineteen fifty two and connects to the Ruth 1824 01:38:58.039 --> 01:39:03.039 Paine Forbes situation, right with the Bell helicopters and Ruth Payne, 1825 01:39:03.039 --> 01:39:05.880 who's putting up Lee Harvey Oswald's wife, right, you know, 1826 01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:07.800 it's connects to that through her, you know, through her 1827 01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:12.239 through the pains there, Ruth Payne, young wife of Arthur Young. 1828 01:39:12.720 --> 01:39:15.880 Ruth Payne was her uh step daughter in law. 1829 01:39:18.399 --> 01:39:26.239 Well, I know that supposedly JFK was taking LSD at 1830 01:39:26.239 --> 01:39:27.239 the White House. 1831 01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:31.920 With yeah, with Mary pinchow Meyer. 1832 01:39:31.800 --> 01:39:35.800 Right, Yeah, some people say Mary pinchow Meyer, others say 1833 01:39:35.800 --> 01:39:37.720 that it was Marilyn Monroe. It could have been both of. 1834 01:39:37.680 --> 01:39:39.279 Them, probably both, right, probably both. 1835 01:39:39.319 --> 01:39:40.960 I mean Mary pincham Meyer was a good friend with 1836 01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:43.279 Timothy Leary, so she seems like she's probably just introduced 1837 01:39:43.319 --> 01:39:44.439 it to a lot of folks, right. 1838 01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:48.479 And was married to the head of the CIA cordmyre. 1839 01:39:48.760 --> 01:39:52.399 Yes, sir, But here in your documentary you present evidence 1840 01:39:52.439 --> 01:39:54.960 that we don't really know what went down there daily 1841 01:39:55.000 --> 01:39:57.159 clause as far as we don't even know that the 1842 01:39:57.239 --> 01:39:59.399 JFK died from all appearances, right. 1843 01:40:02.199 --> 01:40:05.159 Yeah, there's uh, there's a splice in the Zbruder film 1844 01:40:05.600 --> 01:40:09.720 where right before the limousine goes behind the Stimmens Freeway sign, 1845 01:40:10.039 --> 01:40:17.760 there's uh, I believe five frames missing from the Zubruder film. 1846 01:40:18.119 --> 01:40:22.159 In JFK Acts, we see that there's something on the 1847 01:40:22.199 --> 01:40:25.359 side of JFK's face whenever it emerges from behind the 1848 01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:29.640 Stimmens Freeway sign. There's something that's like glistening on his 1849 01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:35.239 cheek that wasn't there before. And whenever it goes off, 1850 01:40:37.920 --> 01:40:41.239 the side of his face explodes and then like this 1851 01:40:41.359 --> 01:40:45.479 thing just like rolls up the side of his face, 1852 01:40:45.800 --> 01:40:48.680 almost like you know those blinds, you know, those old 1853 01:40:48.720 --> 01:40:51.600 school blinds were that you would just like tug down 1854 01:40:51.640 --> 01:40:53.560 on and then it would just shoot up and like 1855 01:40:54.840 --> 01:40:58.159 roll right up to the top of the window. Yep, 1856 01:40:58.600 --> 01:41:01.560 that's what it looks like on the side of JFK's face. 1857 01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:04.880 It's just like like a like a bad effect right, 1858 01:41:04.920 --> 01:41:06.000 like a bad special effect. 1859 01:41:06.079 --> 01:41:08.920 Right, yeah, it just rolls up the time. 1860 01:41:09.159 --> 01:41:11.520 Not now right, like not under the scrutiny you all 1861 01:41:11.560 --> 01:41:13.800 did with the film, right putting it through the you know, 1862 01:41:13.840 --> 01:41:16.079 the the processes you all put it through to scrutinize it. 1863 01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:24.199 And it's glistening and it's shining in the sunlight. Uh, 1864 01:41:24.640 --> 01:41:29.079 the autopsy photos do not show a shot to the 1865 01:41:29.159 --> 01:41:31.319 side of the head. It shows a shot to the 1866 01:41:31.359 --> 01:41:37.680 back of the head, in the back. So the autops 1867 01:41:37.760 --> 01:41:44.239 photos don't even line up with what we see in 1868 01:41:44.319 --> 01:41:46.000 the Zubruder film. 1869 01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:48.119 Right, they don't comport whatsoever, do they? And then and 1870 01:41:48.640 --> 01:41:51.000 that that obviously is one one huge red flag. But 1871 01:41:51.039 --> 01:41:54.079 then on top of this, the comparative evidence like that, 1872 01:41:54.119 --> 01:41:56.119 I thought some of the you know, some of the 1873 01:41:56.199 --> 01:41:59.479 telling evidence you'll be presented was the use of like 1874 01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:00.840 some block squibs or something. 1875 01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:06.920 They're going on, right, Well, then you also had a 1876 01:42:07.079 --> 01:42:15.119 Dallas police officer named JD. Tippett that was murdered that day, 1877 01:42:16.239 --> 01:42:20.520 a supposedly by Oswald. Why do I keep getting balloons 1878 01:42:20.520 --> 01:42:21.800 whenever I do comes up? 1879 01:42:21.880 --> 01:42:26.520 Or like the Chinese digital spy balloons, they're there after you. 1880 01:42:27.079 --> 01:42:28.840 Bro, They're trying to get me with these balloons. 1881 01:42:28.920 --> 01:42:29.399 Do it again? 1882 01:42:29.479 --> 01:42:31.520 Let me give the air quotes, peace, give me the 1883 01:42:31.520 --> 01:42:36.039 balloons again, stream yard. But there was a person named JD. 1884 01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:41.479 Tippet that was murdered on the day. Uh. But supposedly 1885 01:42:41.560 --> 01:42:46.960 JFK was shot and assassinated. Right, that looks almost identical 1886 01:42:47.039 --> 01:42:53.000 to JFK. And he was shot in the exact same 1887 01:42:53.039 --> 01:42:59.359 places that is shown in JFK's autopsy, but in the 1888 01:42:59.359 --> 01:43:01.479 back of the head and in the. 1889 01:43:01.439 --> 01:43:04.560 Back, yeah, and hit. The sort of his murder is 1890 01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:07.239 super questionable, right, And j D. 1891 01:43:07.479 --> 01:43:16.760 Tippett is a spitting image of JFK. He almost looks 1892 01:43:16.800 --> 01:43:19.159 identical to JFK. He looks so similar. 1893 01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:22.760 Oh yeah, dude, look at that the JFK. 1894 01:43:23.159 --> 01:43:29.319 That his nickname on the Dallas Police Force was JFK. 1895 01:43:30.479 --> 01:43:31.680 And it's it's my understanding. 1896 01:43:31.760 --> 01:43:35.560 David Ferry was an individual fitting the description of David 1897 01:43:35.600 --> 01:43:37.479 Ferry was seen holding a gun firing the last two 1898 01:43:37.479 --> 01:43:39.399 shots into that man while he's laid on the ground. 1899 01:43:41.520 --> 01:43:45.720 And that murder of the police officer was what Oswald 1900 01:43:46.039 --> 01:43:47.039 was arrested for. 1901 01:43:47.960 --> 01:43:53.199 Yep, the murder Ferry was a private plane, had a 1902 01:43:53.199 --> 01:43:55.239 private plane, and what's suspected to be in Dallas that 1903 01:43:55.319 --> 01:43:58.079 day based upon the investigation of Jim Garrison. 1904 01:43:58.159 --> 01:43:59.680 So it starts to get real. Question. 1905 01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:01.079 I mean, when you bring you bring a lot of 1906 01:44:01.079 --> 01:44:04.600 good elements into some very some you know, to my opinion, 1907 01:44:04.640 --> 01:44:06.319 you guys brought some good elements in my brain hole 1908 01:44:06.359 --> 01:44:07.079 of fill in some gaps. 1909 01:44:07.159 --> 01:44:07.279 Right. 1910 01:44:07.439 --> 01:44:09.920 Questions about again, when you when you read a witness statement, 1911 01:44:10.159 --> 01:44:11.760 you know just as well as I do, David Ferry 1912 01:44:11.800 --> 01:44:14.479 is a very distinctive looking individual. You know what I 1913 01:44:14.479 --> 01:44:16.840 mean that you see read a witness statement that describes 1914 01:44:16.920 --> 01:44:19.079 David Ferry to a t as the guy that murdered Tipping. Well, 1915 01:44:19.279 --> 01:44:22.119 this makes sense, This makes sense. What's going on here? 1916 01:44:22.199 --> 01:44:23.840 It's a full, full frame job. 1917 01:44:25.319 --> 01:44:31.079 Exactly. And if you know how rituals work, you know 1918 01:44:31.159 --> 01:44:35.760 that an element of the ritual has to be real, right, Like, 1919 01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:43.000 you can't just fake an entire ritual, right Like. 1920 01:44:43.159 --> 01:44:44.880 Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be some aspects you can 1921 01:44:44.920 --> 01:44:47.680 certainly get away with because no one saw that video, Like, 1922 01:44:48.359 --> 01:44:50.600 let's be honest to fake something that daily clause, It 1923 01:44:50.640 --> 01:44:53.720 isn't all that extreme because you fire a couple of 1924 01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:55.520 shots outside of holding an umbrella. 1925 01:44:55.560 --> 01:44:57.119 That doesn't protect you from getting shot. 1926 01:44:57.159 --> 01:44:59.319 But you know everyone else ducks in those videos in 1927 01:44:59.359 --> 01:45:01.600 the first place, right outside the umbrella man right, so 1928 01:45:01.760 --> 01:45:04.119 and the quote unquote suprud Or from but no one 1929 01:45:04.159 --> 01:45:07.039 sees that for what twelve years? So the people that 1930 01:45:07.119 --> 01:45:09.000 were I witness on the scene, Dude, I knew I 1931 01:45:09.079 --> 01:45:10.640 met an eye witness from the scene. He was there 1932 01:45:10.640 --> 01:45:13.920 when he was seven years old. I strangely enough, I 1933 01:45:13.960 --> 01:45:16.039 went to I was found myself in Daily Plaza on 1934 01:45:16.079 --> 01:45:20.159 December fourteenth, twenty twelve, strikingly similar, just another day of 1935 01:45:20.279 --> 01:45:22.039 a strange event that I don't think we know all 1936 01:45:22.079 --> 01:45:24.720 the details about that that happened that day. But I 1937 01:45:24.760 --> 01:45:26.560 was going to see that museum and I just happened 1938 01:45:26.560 --> 01:45:28.800 to be walking there, and you know, going you know 1939 01:45:28.880 --> 01:45:30.359 that area of Dallas. There was no one there on 1940 01:45:30.359 --> 01:45:34.319 a Friday afternoon or whatever, five o'clock, and any other 1941 01:45:34.359 --> 01:45:36.199 person on the sidewalk was standing next to me waiting 1942 01:45:36.239 --> 01:45:38.439 to cross the street and he says, Hey, you going 1943 01:45:38.520 --> 01:45:41.439 to the Assassination Museum or whatever? And I said yeah. 1944 01:45:41.520 --> 01:45:43.760 He said, I'm a security guard there. He said, let 1945 01:45:43.800 --> 01:45:45.760 me go drop this off. I got a Christmas present, 1946 01:45:45.880 --> 01:45:48.199 drop off one of my coworkers. He's like, let me 1947 01:45:48.199 --> 01:45:49.479 give you a tour of daily Plaza. 1948 01:45:49.479 --> 01:45:49.760 First. 1949 01:45:49.760 --> 01:45:51.399 He's like, I was here when it happened. I was 1950 01:45:51.439 --> 01:45:53.159 seven years old. I was like them, shit, all right, 1951 01:45:53.159 --> 01:45:55.159 well all wait, I'll stand by. So let's do this. 1952 01:45:56.680 --> 01:45:58.760 So you know the way he explained it. You know, again, 1953 01:45:58.760 --> 01:46:01.640 everyone just takes cover you. You don't. You can't if 1954 01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:03.800 no one's looking to see what happens after you hear 1955 01:46:03.800 --> 01:46:06.680 a bunch of bangs, right, a bunch of shots going off. 1956 01:46:06.720 --> 01:46:09.880 You know, I think you know, there's a. 1957 01:46:08.880 --> 01:46:10.199 A lot of things that can go on, and you 1958 01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:15.640 know when you're distracted in the magic show, if you will, So. 1959 01:46:15.800 --> 01:46:18.720 If you look at like how ritual magic works, right, 1960 01:46:19.359 --> 01:46:21.880 they have to do something that's real. Okay, So they 1961 01:46:21.920 --> 01:46:25.600 have this police officer named well, his nickname was JFK 1962 01:46:25.720 --> 01:46:29.520 because he looked strikingly similar to Okay. 1963 01:46:31.479 --> 01:46:34.359 You know, with this picture right here, specifically from a distance, 1964 01:46:34.399 --> 01:46:36.439 you would not be able to determine that's not JFK. 1965 01:46:36.640 --> 01:46:38.199 I mean he looks like a Kennedy, you. 1966 01:46:38.159 --> 01:46:44.239 Know, exactly. So in order to pull off the operation, 1967 01:46:47.199 --> 01:46:51.479 in order you know, to get away with this occultly 1968 01:46:52.119 --> 01:46:58.159 like a cult style, you would have to kill somebody 1969 01:46:58.800 --> 01:47:02.960 for real, Okay. 1970 01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:05.800 And we are talking a very ritualistic event, right because it's. 1971 01:47:05.760 --> 01:47:10.640 The you kill the guy that's nicknamed j f K. 1972 01:47:13.239 --> 01:47:15.399 I see what you're saying with with with with the 1973 01:47:15.399 --> 01:47:17.640 there's there's a deeper esoteric aspect to that. 1974 01:47:19.199 --> 01:47:24.199 Then you give the perception that it was the president. 1975 01:47:25.119 --> 01:47:28.680 And the site that occurs on is very ritualistic, right, Ja, 1976 01:47:28.800 --> 01:47:31.680 you technically did kill No, it's. 1977 01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:36.960 There's the balloons, there's my magic that that's the magic that. 1978 01:47:38.359 --> 01:47:40.800 Atop that has the appearance. Right, So that is the 1979 01:47:40.880 --> 01:47:45.760 convincing aspects right there you go. Deal was Deally Plaza 1980 01:47:45.800 --> 01:47:48.359 the first Was it the first Masonic lodge or there 1981 01:47:48.399 --> 01:47:51.000 was some deep history to it there with Mason's in 1982 01:47:51.079 --> 01:47:51.760 Dealey Plaza. 1983 01:47:53.079 --> 01:47:56.159 Yeah, there's free Mason Lodges all over there. It's on 1984 01:47:56.279 --> 01:48:00.439 the thirty third parallel like Daly Pasa that wrote down 1985 01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:02.640 Daily Plaza, they. 1986 01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:04.159 Have a giant obelism there now. 1987 01:48:04.920 --> 01:48:10.840 Yeah, just the all covered in a cult ritualistic Yeah. 1988 01:48:10.840 --> 01:48:13.079 I think it was the site of the first Masonic 1989 01:48:13.079 --> 01:48:14.640 lodge in Texas, or at least the one that first 1990 01:48:14.680 --> 01:48:17.039 went in Dallas at least, right, So it does have 1991 01:48:17.119 --> 01:48:19.920 some deeper like that site has some you know, some 1992 01:48:19.960 --> 01:48:23.239 deeper ritualistic aspects. So you're familiar with the King Kill 1993 01:48:23.319 --> 01:48:27.399 thirty three stuff, with these kind of deeper esoteric ritualistic 1994 01:48:27.439 --> 01:48:31.479 aspects of the of the the whole thing, of the who, 1995 01:48:32.359 --> 01:48:34.319 of the whole, the whole event, right, the whole JFK 1996 01:48:34.439 --> 01:48:38.840 thing where James Shelby Downard wrote this whole essay about 1997 01:48:38.840 --> 01:48:41.239 how you know, there's this whole Masonic ritual with all 1998 01:48:41.279 --> 01:48:44.399 these Freemasons including Zapruder, you know what I mean, on 1999 01:48:44.439 --> 01:48:48.560 this on this Daily Plaza Freemason site, right with the 2000 01:48:48.600 --> 01:48:50.720 three tramps being rolled out as that you know, this 2001 01:48:50.720 --> 01:48:53.199 this the three men and that that I guess kill 2002 01:48:53.680 --> 01:48:56.600 Solomon or whatever. I don't remember other lore, but he 2003 01:48:56.680 --> 01:48:59.119 rolls out these ritualistic aspects of a deeper understanding of 2004 01:48:59.199 --> 01:49:01.760 killing the king, and you know, and and I used 2005 01:49:01.800 --> 01:49:04.199 to when I first consider those things, I was like, 2006 01:49:04.359 --> 01:49:06.199 I'm willing to believe these things. But the other thing 2007 01:49:06.279 --> 01:49:09.239 is with considering those aspects is the person doesn't have 2008 01:49:09.319 --> 01:49:11.319 to die because you're what you're saying, it's it's a 2009 01:49:11.359 --> 01:49:13.880 magic show. If you're convincing the person that Kennedy died 2010 01:49:14.479 --> 01:49:17.199 you're still you're still playing out this ritual right, this 2011 01:49:17.199 --> 01:49:20.680 this mass psychodrama. 2012 01:49:20.079 --> 01:49:23.079 That's and this is going to get really spiritual. But 2013 01:49:23.119 --> 01:49:27.800 that's how they also like get away with any kind 2014 01:49:27.880 --> 01:49:32.199 of spiritual chromic repercussions. 2015 01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:38.439 Sure you're saying that this is an act of trying 2016 01:49:38.479 --> 01:49:41.760 to uh not implicate themselves reliability. 2017 01:49:41.760 --> 01:49:45.000 To cheat the system, use a backdoor. 2018 01:49:46.479 --> 01:49:46.760 Yeah. 2019 01:49:47.880 --> 01:49:50.439 I think it is interesting also that Marilyn Manson would 2020 01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:53.560 later name a song King Kill thirty three after presumably 2021 01:49:53.600 --> 01:49:56.760 after this, uh this yere essay that I'm referring to. 2022 01:49:56.840 --> 01:49:58.960 But this essay I think. 2023 01:49:58.920 --> 01:50:04.079 Describes this, this this deeper ritualistic you know, aspect that 2024 01:50:04.279 --> 01:50:07.960 many folks who who operate within these ancient Allien cargo cults, 2025 01:50:07.960 --> 01:50:11.079 and I would argue these Masonic organizations are no different 2026 01:50:11.079 --> 01:50:14.680 with their worship of serious et cetera. That you know, 2027 01:50:14.720 --> 01:50:20.199 these these people have a deeper, seemingly large scale ritualistic plans, 2028 01:50:20.239 --> 01:50:24.640 you know, to perpetrate I'm assuming, to shift the mindset 2029 01:50:24.640 --> 01:50:28.520 of society and these large scale psychodramas, right, That's kind 2030 01:50:28.520 --> 01:50:29.680 of how I look at it at least. 2031 01:50:32.279 --> 01:50:35.479 Yeah, And it all really makes sense when you when 2032 01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:39.039 you you know you get the exactly what was going 2033 01:50:39.079 --> 01:50:41.039 on in this whole thing, and then they kill Oswald 2034 01:50:41.079 --> 01:50:44.439 really quickly. Jack Ruby comes out, gets through the entire 2035 01:50:44.319 --> 01:50:48.239 green around the police shoots Oswald and the stomach. Oswald 2036 01:50:48.279 --> 01:50:51.760 is conveniently wearing a black sweater that he somehow got 2037 01:50:52.600 --> 01:50:54.920 he switched from having a white shirt onto a black 2038 01:50:54.920 --> 01:50:57.920 sweater as he was being transferred out of the jail, 2039 01:50:58.520 --> 01:50:59.960 so that you can't see any blood. 2040 01:51:00.479 --> 01:51:01.760 No autop scene. 2041 01:51:03.680 --> 01:51:06.520 Of Oswald. There is only drawings. 2042 01:51:06.800 --> 01:51:09.079 There you go, there, you go, drawings. 2043 01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:14.720 That's the question I was gonna ask him, like, where's 2044 01:51:14.800 --> 01:51:16.760 should be the evidence, right, or where's this evidence that 2045 01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:19.439 Oswald even died. If we're considering, as you point out 2046 01:51:19.520 --> 01:51:22.359 your film, the JFK up here at least the film 2047 01:51:22.399 --> 01:51:24.439 is we're shown it is not real that Zuepruder film 2048 01:51:24.520 --> 01:51:27.159 is not an accurate depiction, as you guys point out 2049 01:51:27.159 --> 01:51:30.279 there in numerous perspectives, that this has been tampered with, 2050 01:51:30.359 --> 01:51:32.560 and to do so in a manner to convince us 2051 01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:34.640 that he was shot in the head, these things in 2052 01:51:34.960 --> 01:51:37.640 these scenes, right, And in that same regard, we're shown 2053 01:51:37.680 --> 01:51:41.239 that Oswald the man comes up to Oswald, Jack Jack Rubinstein, right, 2054 01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:44.960 from Chicago. Right, he comes up and uh puts a 2055 01:51:45.119 --> 01:51:49.279 puts a pistol. Right, the free Masonic detectives are seen, 2056 01:51:49.359 --> 01:51:52.159 you know, they're wearing Freemason rings. They're seen almost holding 2057 01:51:52.279 --> 01:51:54.800 Oswald up, almost like he's trying to get away or something. Right, 2058 01:51:54.880 --> 01:51:56.880 it's very dramatic looking, and he puts the gun into 2059 01:51:56.880 --> 01:51:57.760 his belly and shoots him. 2060 01:51:57.800 --> 01:52:00.720 Right, But like, how is that? Maybe that's part of 2061 01:52:00.720 --> 01:52:01.760 the same psychodrama. 2062 01:52:01.800 --> 01:52:04.399 Maybe that's part of the same false, false, you know, 2063 01:52:04.520 --> 01:52:06.439 magic show that we're supposed to believe to be bad. 2064 01:52:11.199 --> 01:52:12.399 Did you freeze that brown. 2065 01:52:15.359 --> 01:52:15.720 My back? 2066 01:52:16.880 --> 01:52:20.479 You froze on me, dud glitch in the majors? 2067 01:52:21.359 --> 01:52:21.720 Did so? 2068 01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:23.479 Did you catch my part where that maybe were to 2069 01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:26.279 believe Oswald die but he didn't. Right, So I say 2070 01:52:26.279 --> 01:52:29.880 that because Oswald is not some you know, weird communist 2071 01:52:30.039 --> 01:52:33.840 guy who defected to Cuba, etcetera, etcetera. That that David 2072 01:52:33.880 --> 01:52:36.680 Ferry guy we were talking about before, who Garrison investigated 2073 01:52:36.680 --> 01:52:39.159 to these matters and was fits the description of the 2074 01:52:39.159 --> 01:52:42.720 guy that murdered Tippett, right, based on witness descriptions of 2075 01:52:42.720 --> 01:52:45.239 that incident. He was he you know, was part of 2076 01:52:45.239 --> 01:52:47.840 the frame job on Oswald out of New Orleans there apparently, 2077 01:52:47.840 --> 01:52:51.159 but he knew Oswald going back to the early nineteen 2078 01:52:51.239 --> 01:52:55.960 fifties where he was the squadron commander for Oswald's Civil 2079 01:52:56.079 --> 01:53:00.600 Air Patrol unit and fellow future mina Arkansas Eddian drug 2080 01:53:00.640 --> 01:53:03.560 cartel smuler for Iran contract Barry Seal was part of 2081 01:53:03.560 --> 01:53:09.359 that same unit under the under the command and leadership 2082 01:53:09.399 --> 01:53:12.960 of one David Ferry. David I got some fake eyebrows 2083 01:53:12.960 --> 01:53:18.800 and a whig Ferry. So I think that's very interesting 2084 01:53:18.840 --> 01:53:20.680 because I only think Oswald comes from nowhere. 2085 01:53:20.720 --> 01:53:23.520 So Oswald, I would argue, is was. 2086 01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:26.079 Very probably a member of that same secret society that 2087 01:53:26.159 --> 01:53:29.479 started America, the Society of the Cincinnati, where it's a 2088 01:53:29.640 --> 01:53:32.399 modern day it's they're the they're the descendants of the 2089 01:53:32.479 --> 01:53:35.279 Knights Templar, but it's a modern day Knights Templar where 2090 01:53:35.960 --> 01:53:39.800 George Washington and his officers. The membership gets passed down 2091 01:53:39.840 --> 01:53:45.479 through the paternal bloodline. So Joseph os I'm sorry, Lee Harvey. 2092 01:53:45.479 --> 01:53:49.319 Oswald's second great grandfather, Joseph Oswald, was a major in 2093 01:53:49.359 --> 01:53:52.920 the Georgia chapter of the Society the Cincinnati appears and 2094 01:53:54.319 --> 01:53:57.479 it seems like looking at his paternal descendants, that that 2095 01:53:57.479 --> 01:54:01.039 that membership would have been passed down through Oswald's grandfather, 2096 01:54:01.079 --> 01:54:03.159 who was a colonel in the Confederate Army, down to 2097 01:54:03.239 --> 01:54:09.319 his father and then onto possibly Oswald, possibly Oswald. So 2098 01:54:09.359 --> 01:54:11.600 if that's the case, that's an interesting dynamic. I would 2099 01:54:11.680 --> 01:54:15.159 consider that because you got the secret society that started America, 2100 01:54:15.199 --> 01:54:17.600 you got JFK as a member by virtue of being president. 2101 01:54:18.239 --> 01:54:21.920 His father in law Jack Bouvier, is that this is 2102 01:54:21.960 --> 01:54:25.479 a hereditary member. I would argue, possibly of the French chapter, 2103 01:54:25.560 --> 01:54:30.319 but definitely I've confirmed of the Maryland chapter. So and 2104 01:54:30.399 --> 01:54:33.119 his membership likely got passed down to JFK Junior, his 2105 01:54:33.199 --> 01:54:35.800 only paternal descendant. So that's a different story altogether. But 2106 01:54:36.439 --> 01:54:39.399 you have JFK member of the society, his father in 2107 01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:40.920 law is a member. I'm just saying, you have a 2108 01:54:40.960 --> 01:54:43.520 close orbit of other members there. You have jag Or 2109 01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:45.520 Hoover's a member, right, You have a lot of members 2110 01:54:45.560 --> 01:54:47.680 that are directly involved in the immediate orbit of this 2111 01:54:47.760 --> 01:54:50.279 instance that has been so pivotal in American history. And 2112 01:54:50.640 --> 01:54:53.239 as you all point out, JFKX, we don't know what 2113 01:54:53.279 --> 01:54:56.119 really happened. We don't know what really happened. So, and 2114 01:54:56.159 --> 01:54:59.119 then you have Lee Harvey Oswald's probably hereditary member, right, 2115 01:54:59.159 --> 01:55:01.279 and he's not just an you know of an you know, 2116 01:55:01.319 --> 01:55:03.840 there's a lot of these powerful families that run that 2117 01:55:03.920 --> 01:55:06.239 run these membership or that you know, a lot of 2118 01:55:06.239 --> 01:55:08.359 folks are descended from some of the original members that 2119 01:55:08.399 --> 01:55:10.359 aren't members, right, because you know, you got to be 2120 01:55:10.399 --> 01:55:13.239 a paternal paternal line from the original member. For example, 2121 01:55:13.680 --> 01:55:18.840 Lee Harvey Oswald's third cousin was Teddy Roosevelt, also descended 2122 01:55:18.920 --> 01:55:21.720 from that same major Joseph Oswald of the Georgia chapter. 2123 01:55:21.880 --> 01:55:24.359 So what I'm presenting, what I'm what I'm suggesting is 2124 01:55:24.359 --> 01:55:26.760 it's a power dynamic amongst the Secret Society who was 2125 01:55:26.880 --> 01:55:29.520 very close around this orbit of the JFK situation, including 2126 01:55:29.600 --> 01:55:33.039 JFK himself as father in law, the alleged assassin, the 2127 01:55:33.119 --> 01:55:34.960 FBI director, you know what I mean. So we do 2128 01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:37.600 have the FREEMASONI ritual aspect though, but I think there's 2129 01:55:37.640 --> 01:55:39.279 maybe even some deeper aspects to it. 2130 01:55:40.239 --> 01:55:43.279 Well, anyway you shake it. Oswald was definitely a patsy. 2131 01:55:43.479 --> 01:55:47.399 You can clearly see that he doesn't he doesn't even 2132 01:55:47.479 --> 01:55:52.399 know that JFK had been shot. He says that he 2133 01:55:52.439 --> 01:55:56.159 was accused of killing a police officer, and then they 2134 01:55:57.079 --> 01:55:58.960 like took him out so that and. 2135 01:55:58.920 --> 01:56:01.279 Then they know evidence of his interviews. 2136 01:56:00.840 --> 01:56:05.439 Right, no evidence, and then they have you know, Jack 2137 01:56:05.520 --> 01:56:12.239 Ruby getting a visit, probably dosed some sort of uh substance. 2138 01:56:13.159 --> 01:56:21.079 And then kind of low Jolly west Broun's here, Lol, 2139 01:56:21.199 --> 01:56:23.319 Jolly gives him a little visit while he was in 2140 01:56:23.960 --> 01:56:28.840 uh in in prison and uh then he because he 2141 01:56:28.920 --> 01:56:33.159 does this suppress interview where we showed in our movie 2142 01:56:33.399 --> 01:56:36.840 where he says that no one will ever know the 2143 01:56:36.880 --> 01:56:41.079 reasons why I got Oswald, why I did what I did. 2144 01:56:41.159 --> 01:56:44.479 And then he's asked for these people in high up places, 2145 01:56:45.479 --> 01:56:53.479 he says, and then they essentially make him like go 2146 01:56:53.600 --> 01:56:58.039 into a some kind of psychosis. He's out of his mind. 2147 01:56:59.119 --> 01:57:04.680 He ends up answer dies in prison. And then he 2148 01:57:04.840 --> 01:57:07.199 was like all the he's going off the walls. He's 2149 01:57:07.239 --> 01:57:09.279 like the fairies made me do like all kinds of 2150 01:57:09.319 --> 01:57:12.039 crazy show. There's no other explanation than that Jolly West 2151 01:57:12.039 --> 01:57:14.399 came in and dosed him. It was some kind of 2152 01:57:14.439 --> 01:57:18.960 drug so that he wasn't able to say exactly what happened. 2153 01:57:20.439 --> 01:57:22.760 Right, And then no, I mean you bring up some 2154 01:57:22.800 --> 01:57:25.159 great points. Again, I don't we don't have evidence of 2155 01:57:25.199 --> 01:57:29.000 his death, his notes. The question there, your favorite uncle 2156 01:57:29.079 --> 01:57:31.079 was Thomas Jude Bamber was the attorney out of Guy 2157 01:57:31.119 --> 01:57:35.159 Bannister's office that incorporated the Processed Church. You know, numerous 2158 01:57:35.159 --> 01:57:38.760 elements of I think Jim Garrison was investigating the Processed Church. 2159 01:57:39.680 --> 01:57:42.720 Numerous elements of his investigation, not just Thomas Jude Bamber, 2160 01:57:42.800 --> 01:57:45.000 were connected to the Processed Church, the least of which 2161 01:57:45.039 --> 01:57:48.079 was Kerrie Thornley, one of the primary sub subjects, and 2162 01:57:48.159 --> 01:57:51.880 associated David Ferry there, but David. This intersection of David 2163 01:57:51.880 --> 01:57:54.880 Ferry and Lee Harvey Oswald again is concept and lost 2164 01:57:54.880 --> 01:57:57.439 to me that Oswald was born into something. You know, 2165 01:57:57.520 --> 01:58:00.319 Barry Seal, the drug trafficker, right, the mean arc Kansol 2166 01:58:00.399 --> 01:58:02.479 guy famous for the Median drug trafficking. 2167 01:58:02.720 --> 01:58:07.640 You I'm talking about, Well, that's how like a foreign 2168 01:58:07.720 --> 01:58:11.079 spy would act. I mean, there's a lot of evidence 2169 01:58:11.119 --> 01:58:16.439 of how spies operated, right they would. They completely give 2170 01:58:16.520 --> 01:58:19.800 you a new identity like you are like a like 2171 01:58:19.840 --> 01:58:25.119 a black budget weapon out there to perform a certain task, 2172 01:58:25.239 --> 01:58:27.840 to infiltrate in to do whatever it is that your 2173 01:58:27.920 --> 01:58:30.720 task or your operation, and you see it through until 2174 01:58:30.720 --> 01:58:33.800 the end. Okay, so they have the ability to just 2175 01:58:33.960 --> 01:58:36.880 give somebody a completely new identity. 2176 01:58:37.760 --> 01:58:40.439 Were familiar, you bring up some good points. I'm sure 2177 01:58:40.439 --> 01:58:44.359 you're familiar with the two osball theory, right, Yes, So 2178 01:58:44.479 --> 01:58:46.600 that guy documented that what you're describing right there, you 2179 01:58:46.600 --> 01:58:48.439 have a Lee Harvey Oswall, and you have a Harvey 2180 01:58:48.520 --> 01:58:51.000 Lee Oswall living in in the same city at times, 2181 01:58:51.359 --> 01:58:54.479 living in different locations, intending different schools, and he documented evident. 2182 01:58:54.560 --> 01:58:57.560 Actually the Warrant Commission that really documented a lot of that. 2183 01:58:58.079 --> 01:59:00.239 He was just he was just you know, realize it 2184 01:59:00.279 --> 01:59:02.399 was stuff that they put in their reports and didn't 2185 01:59:02.399 --> 01:59:02.960 really address. 2186 01:59:04.600 --> 01:59:08.079 Yeah, so you got David Ferry here. 2187 01:59:08.319 --> 01:59:11.760 Second, the second from the left is David Ferry, and 2188 01:59:11.760 --> 01:59:13.800 this is nineteen fifty five. In the New Orleans Civil 2189 01:59:13.800 --> 01:59:15.920 Air Patrol. You got Lee Harvey Oswald or maybe it 2190 01:59:15.920 --> 01:59:18.680 was Harvey Lee, I'm not sure. Over Here on the right, 2191 01:59:18.960 --> 01:59:22.560 but in that same unit was Barry Seal. And Barry 2192 01:59:22.600 --> 01:59:26.319 Seal has this same Society in the Cincinnati background. He's 2193 01:59:26.399 --> 01:59:29.600 descended his third great grandfather, Captain William Seal of the 2194 01:59:29.600 --> 01:59:32.800 North Carolina Chapter of the Society. So I just wonder 2195 01:59:32.840 --> 01:59:34.520 if these folks are I don't know, but I don't 2196 01:59:34.560 --> 01:59:36.760 know fairies lineage. I don't think it does the same 2197 01:59:36.800 --> 01:59:39.640 regards some folks are hired into these positions, I think. 2198 01:59:39.680 --> 01:59:41.439 But he you know, it's. 2199 01:59:41.319 --> 01:59:44.000 Odd to see these two characters, Oswald and Seal in 2200 01:59:44.039 --> 01:59:46.119 the same Civil Air Patrol, you know, let alone with 2201 01:59:46.159 --> 01:59:49.960 Ferry as their leader, and the Seal and Oswald have 2202 01:59:50.000 --> 01:59:52.159 the same background, and they're both very involved in these 2203 01:59:52.359 --> 01:59:55.760 major parapolitical events later, right, And I think the same 2204 01:59:55.760 --> 01:59:57.760 can be said for a lot of these society characters, 2205 01:59:57.800 --> 02:00:01.079 not just the JFK event, but virgin the work you've 2206 02:00:01.079 --> 02:00:03.319 done with Virginia Giuffrey, I think that she may have 2207 02:00:03.359 --> 02:00:06.439 been born into these things like her her maternal uncle 2208 02:00:06.560 --> 02:00:09.840 is the Kabelle, her mother's a Cabelle and the Kabell family, 2209 02:00:09.880 --> 02:00:13.520 and her her fourth great grandfather was a colonel in 2210 02:00:13.560 --> 02:00:16.439 the Wars of seventeen seventy six out of the Virginia chapter. 2211 02:00:16.560 --> 02:00:19.680 So it seems looking at that man's paternal lineage in 2212 02:00:19.720 --> 02:00:23.079 the society, it seems that Virginia Giuphray's maternal uncle, her 2213 02:00:23.640 --> 02:00:27.920 mother's brother, would be the hereditary member from that Colonel Cabell. 2214 02:00:28.039 --> 02:00:30.720 But it is this What I'm saying is these it's 2215 02:00:30.720 --> 02:00:35.840 these families within this society structure that the society families 2216 02:00:35.880 --> 02:00:38.439 that seem to pop up over over again, even in 2217 02:00:38.479 --> 02:00:41.640 the JFK is at situation right with the whole the 2218 02:00:41.640 --> 02:00:43.720 whole Bay of Pigs thing is I like the quote 2219 02:00:43.960 --> 02:00:47.680 Tricky Dick from the Watergate tapes because it is that 2220 02:00:47.720 --> 02:00:51.039 same Cabell family of Virginia. Giufhrays, these are kinfolks of 2221 02:00:51.079 --> 02:00:56.000 hers that JFK family fires from the CIA director as 2222 02:00:56.119 --> 02:00:58.800 you know, as a result of the Bay of Pigs thing, right, 2223 02:00:59.600 --> 02:01:00.720 Charles Cabelle. 2224 02:01:02.560 --> 02:01:07.319 Yep, the Cabell family is all over the Virginia Jeffray case. 2225 02:01:08.439 --> 02:01:08.640 Yeah. 2226 02:01:09.000 --> 02:01:12.840 Yeah, her whole heritage and her whole background. I signed 2227 02:01:12.920 --> 02:01:16.199 up for ancestry dot com for sure. 2228 02:01:16.319 --> 02:01:16.680 Yeah. 2229 02:01:17.319 --> 02:01:20.760 This would be like a third cousin once removed I 2230 02:01:20.800 --> 02:01:24.039 think to Virginia's mother or maybe to Virginia somewhere around there. 2231 02:01:26.199 --> 02:01:28.359 So you know, not not an immediate family, but you 2232 02:01:28.399 --> 02:01:30.479 know within that same free right again, within the same 2233 02:01:30.560 --> 02:01:35.760 structure of families, right, we see these people playing integral positions. 2234 02:01:36.600 --> 02:01:38.319 That seems to be with the way that it is 2235 02:01:38.359 --> 02:01:43.159 with a lot of things there, they're family member, someone 2236 02:01:43.199 --> 02:01:46.479 that is, someone's a part of the military, someone's in 2237 02:01:46.560 --> 02:01:50.439 high ranking position the military, someone's evolved in the intelligence community, 2238 02:01:50.479 --> 02:01:53.680 someone has some kind of backing, some kind of background 2239 02:01:53.760 --> 02:01:56.960 in the intelligence community. Like, it's weird, dude. 2240 02:01:57.039 --> 02:01:58.800 It's super weird. What was the one I saw recently? 2241 02:01:58.840 --> 02:02:00.840 I think it was Tom Sigger. His father was like 2242 02:02:00.840 --> 02:02:03.279 a VP for like JP Morgan or something like that, 2243 02:02:03.760 --> 02:02:08.399 or Merrill Lynch. He's a retired Marine Corps officer turned 2244 02:02:08.439 --> 02:02:12.840 like bank executive. Sounds very liturel canyon, doesn't it. It sounds 2245 02:02:12.880 --> 02:02:13.920 very grunsyn too. 2246 02:02:16.520 --> 02:02:18.880 Yeah, it really does, dude. And and like looking at 2247 02:02:18.920 --> 02:02:20.840 all these bands and all these people that were a 2248 02:02:20.880 --> 02:02:24.640 part of like they came up in the hippie movement, 2249 02:02:24.720 --> 02:02:27.199 which Dave McGowan has uh, you know, talked about in 2250 02:02:27.239 --> 02:02:28.960 his books, and that we also bring up in a 2251 02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:31.319 Clockwork Shining and Kubrick's Odyssey three. 2252 02:02:33.159 --> 02:02:35.159 Well back when you fro you froze up. 2253 02:02:36.560 --> 02:02:39.279 Yeah, Well we're saying Clockwork Shine, go ahead, com please continue, sir. 2254 02:02:41.439 --> 02:02:45.920 Just that all these people have like even Mark uh 2255 02:02:46.119 --> 02:02:47.920 Mark Hampas from Blink one eighty two. 2256 02:02:48.720 --> 02:02:50.800 Yeah, his dad. 2257 02:02:52.319 --> 02:02:58.520 It's high up in the military intelligence community for sure. 2258 02:02:58.640 --> 02:03:01.680 Right, it seems to be the It's not just Laurel 2259 02:03:01.720 --> 02:03:03.960 Canyon in the sixties. It is an ongoing trend. So, 2260 02:03:04.119 --> 02:03:06.840 like I was saying, I was somewhat not surprised to 2261 02:03:06.840 --> 02:03:10.479 find Tom Segura's father, this retired Marine Corps officer, was 2262 02:03:10.520 --> 02:03:12.359 the first vice president of Merrill Lynch. 2263 02:03:15.520 --> 02:03:18.800 Yeah, it's not surprising at all. I mean, most of 2264 02:03:18.880 --> 02:03:25.119 these people have these ties back to government. Military. 2265 02:03:26.880 --> 02:03:27.439 Yeah. 2266 02:03:27.640 --> 02:03:30.439 Look how much alien stuff is pushed by the blanquin 2267 02:03:30.479 --> 02:03:31.479 A two folks though. 2268 02:03:31.359 --> 02:03:31.920 Right. 2269 02:03:33.399 --> 02:03:35.600 Exactly, And you're telling me that's just a coincidence. 2270 02:03:36.199 --> 02:03:39.960 It's no, there's no, there's no connections here. Pay no 2271 02:03:40.000 --> 02:03:42.720 attention to the man behind the curtain or the aliens 2272 02:03:42.720 --> 02:03:44.920 behind the curtain that is here. So Tex happis on 2273 02:03:45.039 --> 02:03:48.239 what's he's big in the some US Department of Defense stuff. 2274 02:03:48.239 --> 02:03:52.439 It says navy you know, Nyvy testing of missiles and bombs. 2275 02:03:52.520 --> 02:03:55.520 Huh, well you know about that. 2276 02:03:56.159 --> 02:03:57.880 It's not like and it's never like, oh, this guy 2277 02:03:57.880 --> 02:04:01.119 works human resources, this guy's mom's work human resources of 2278 02:04:01.159 --> 02:04:05.319 the Pentagon. This person tested you know, it's always weapons 2279 02:04:05.359 --> 02:04:07.479 of war, right, it's the it's the uh you know, 2280 02:04:07.479 --> 02:04:09.920 it's the folks that are willing to produce weapons that'll 2281 02:04:10.239 --> 02:04:14.439 kill folks in large scales that are their children, you know, women, 2282 02:04:14.520 --> 02:04:16.359 They're sorry, their sons and daughters are all part of 2283 02:04:16.359 --> 02:04:19.399 these uh the folks selling us these uh alien. 2284 02:04:19.039 --> 02:04:20.560 Cult ideas through the media. 2285 02:04:20.640 --> 02:04:24.640 They're the folks selling us you know, the music, the movies, everything, right, 2286 02:04:25.279 --> 02:04:27.560 not from Laurel Canyon forward, it seems. 2287 02:04:28.640 --> 02:04:31.760 Virginia Dephrase brothers. One of them works for Tesla, the 2288 02:04:31.840 --> 02:04:33.680 other one works for Blue Origin. 2289 02:04:35.399 --> 02:04:37.399 And we see that saying, and we see again at 2290 02:04:37.399 --> 02:04:39.720 Cabell family, the Earl Cobell, the mayor of Dallas, who 2291 02:04:40.199 --> 02:04:41.279 shifted the route. 2292 02:04:41.000 --> 02:04:46.760 That day, right, yeah, in the jfk assascination. 2293 02:04:46.920 --> 02:04:51.159 Yeah, yeah, So again these families seemed to her family specifically, 2294 02:04:51.159 --> 02:04:52.720 when you when you when we did that show, while 2295 02:04:52.720 --> 02:04:55.840 you were describing going into the questions surrounding her death 2296 02:04:55.880 --> 02:04:58.159 and and her in the questions I guess really surrounding 2297 02:04:58.159 --> 02:05:00.319 her life, I was you know when you I didn't, 2298 02:05:00.520 --> 02:05:02.279 I had no idea, you know, you said, Cabell had 2299 02:05:02.279 --> 02:05:05.840 immediately rang familiar to me because they're a very powerful family. 2300 02:05:07.720 --> 02:05:08.960 Cabell Cabole. 2301 02:05:10.319 --> 02:05:14.399 Oh there you gja. 2302 02:05:14.720 --> 02:05:19.079 This is uh, this is her more famous uh forefather 2303 02:05:19.199 --> 02:05:23.560 here out of the Virginia, the Virginia Cabels, the Virginia 2304 02:05:23.600 --> 02:05:24.840 Kabola Cabell's. 2305 02:05:26.439 --> 02:05:30.279 William H. Cabell. You know, he's a. 2306 02:05:29.399 --> 02:05:34.159 Notable figure in the uh the you know, the first 2307 02:05:34.159 --> 02:05:36.199 families of Virginia as they as they as they claim 2308 02:05:36.239 --> 02:05:44.199 here right, fourteenth governor of Virginia. So you know these 2309 02:05:44.239 --> 02:05:47.359 are again it's the it's these you know, did Virginia 2310 02:05:47.439 --> 02:05:49.960 Jiu fred just happened to get in recruited of the 2311 02:05:50.000 --> 02:05:51.319 sex slave operation? 2312 02:05:51.600 --> 02:05:54.760 Was she born into these things? 2313 02:05:56.800 --> 02:05:58.920 I would tend to say that a lot of people 2314 02:05:59.000 --> 02:06:01.479 are born into that. They're born in two of them. 2315 02:06:01.560 --> 02:06:05.439 They're voluntarily or put into them or they're sold into them. 2316 02:06:05.800 --> 02:06:08.279 There you go, Yeah, there's a lot to be said. 2317 02:06:08.279 --> 02:06:09.600 I think there's a lot to be said about that 2318 02:06:09.800 --> 02:06:11.920 because it is not you know, one thing, you know 2319 02:06:12.000 --> 02:06:14.319 one thing, but you know, like you said, there's different 2320 02:06:14.600 --> 02:06:17.439 mechanisms and recruitment, but it is you know, this generational 2321 02:06:17.520 --> 02:06:20.199 aspect seem to be the people you know, they want 2322 02:06:20.239 --> 02:06:22.640 folks to be, you know, the folks running and have 2323 02:06:22.680 --> 02:06:24.479 been abused themselves. Right, So that's what I'm saying, Like 2324 02:06:24.520 --> 02:06:27.680 this generational aspect is the leaders of these operations, in 2325 02:06:27.680 --> 02:06:30.119 my opinion, are also subjecting their children to it because 2326 02:06:30.159 --> 02:06:32.159 their children are going to be leaders in the operation 2327 02:06:32.239 --> 02:06:33.920 and they abuse themselves. You see what I'm saying, Like, 2328 02:06:33.960 --> 02:06:40.319 it's that's the way I kind of view these generational things, right, absolutely, 2329 02:06:40.399 --> 02:06:43.239 I agree. So let's look at this picture of old 2330 02:06:43.319 --> 02:06:47.000 Lho here Lee Harvey Oswald and how he's uh, he's 2331 02:06:47.039 --> 02:06:48.000 getting marked right. 2332 02:06:48.119 --> 02:06:51.359 Where is this bullet? 2333 02:06:52.760 --> 02:06:53.760 Yeah, you can't see it. 2334 02:06:54.279 --> 02:06:56.479 Where's any carnage from the bullet? 2335 02:06:57.279 --> 02:06:59.880 Can't see it because Oswald is wearing a black sweater. 2336 02:07:01.840 --> 02:07:04.560 I mean, I just you know, the whole thing that, 2337 02:07:04.800 --> 02:07:07.800 you know, in consideration of the the way you'll dissected 2338 02:07:07.840 --> 02:07:10.199 jfk X, you know, I'd be curious to see if 2339 02:07:10.479 --> 02:07:14.520 if there was a you know, there's similar, similar fabricated 2340 02:07:14.560 --> 02:07:17.439 attributes and even in what we were shown as the 2341 02:07:17.439 --> 02:07:19.359 Oswald shooting scene. 2342 02:07:19.399 --> 02:07:23.880 Right, Okay, I'm going to wrap this all up in 2343 02:07:23.960 --> 02:07:29.960 a tight, little, needy, neatly packaged box for you guys 2344 02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:32.239 before we and uh, let's. 2345 02:07:32.039 --> 02:07:33.800 Bring it in for a landing, sir. Let's it's uh, 2346 02:07:33.880 --> 02:07:36.000 I think that was that was. I think we we 2347 02:07:36.079 --> 02:07:39.039 came full circle. On some ancient alien cargo cold stuff. Again, 2348 02:07:39.119 --> 02:07:41.640 these these folks that are behind a lot of these things, 2349 02:07:41.640 --> 02:07:42.760 and the families and whatnot. 2350 02:07:42.800 --> 02:07:45.079 And I think that, uh, you know, I think there's. 2351 02:07:44.920 --> 02:07:45.960 A lot to be said that a lot of this 2352 02:07:45.960 --> 02:07:48.640 stuff does go back to that JFK, the whole bay 2353 02:07:48.640 --> 02:07:51.640 of pigs things old tricky Dick said, and the weird 2354 02:07:51.680 --> 02:07:53.880 ancient alien cargo cold stuff that's wrapped up. 2355 02:07:53.880 --> 02:07:55.640 And you know, the characters around there. 2356 02:07:55.560 --> 02:07:58.319 Especially with the folks that help perpetrate these obvious lies, 2357 02:07:58.399 --> 02:08:00.920 these obvious lies around it, right, And folks are waiting 2358 02:08:00.920 --> 02:08:02.800 for documents on these things. I'm not sure where they 2359 02:08:02.800 --> 02:08:05.800 expect to find those documents because as you all present 2360 02:08:05.840 --> 02:08:08.479 there in the film, is that no document's going to 2361 02:08:08.520 --> 02:08:11.319 solve that equation whatever went on there, right, it's not 2362 02:08:11.319 --> 02:08:13.279 gonna be any document says, look, we faked it all. 2363 02:08:13.319 --> 02:08:15.680 We did a whole film project to show everybody. Right, 2364 02:08:15.960 --> 02:08:17.520 that's not the kind of They didn't write that down 2365 02:08:17.520 --> 02:08:20.840 a piece of paper, you know, the the cover stories. 2366 02:08:20.840 --> 02:08:22.800 It would be on the piece of paper, not the 2367 02:08:22.840 --> 02:08:26.479 actual Again, as you all present, the fabricated video, and 2368 02:08:26.479 --> 02:08:28.640 we have no idea what actually occurred there because for 2369 02:08:28.800 --> 02:08:31.520 you know. I think you all presented that you and 2370 02:08:31.600 --> 02:08:33.640 Jay Widen are both and pointed out in our first 2371 02:08:33.640 --> 02:08:36.399 discussion on that matter when I first considered these things, 2372 02:08:36.399 --> 02:08:39.159 that JFK could have died the next week or forty 2373 02:08:39.239 --> 02:08:39.720 years later. 2374 02:08:39.800 --> 02:08:40.720 We just don't really know. 2375 02:08:42.640 --> 02:08:48.119 And for the people that have not been convinced of 2376 02:08:48.119 --> 02:08:51.680 what we've been talking about for the past hour about 2377 02:08:51.680 --> 02:09:00.439 this JFK stuff, here is a Vanity Fair article out 2378 02:09:00.760 --> 02:09:02.119 November nineteenth. 2379 02:09:03.000 --> 02:09:04.720 I remember this stuff. 2380 02:09:06.079 --> 02:09:10.319 Why JFK staged his own murder and a James Bond 2381 02:09:10.399 --> 02:09:21.880 inspired spy film two months before his assassination. Okay, and 2382 02:09:21.960 --> 02:09:29.640 this goes into how Jackie Kennedy was a film like, 2383 02:09:29.720 --> 02:09:33.520 she was very interested in films, she wanted to make films, 2384 02:09:33.560 --> 02:09:39.880 and then she just wanted to randomly make a fake 2385 02:09:39.960 --> 02:09:47.439 assassination video of JFK that involved all of the exact 2386 02:09:47.479 --> 02:09:54.680 same Secret Service agents that were there in daily closet 2387 02:09:56.479 --> 02:09:59.920 by day right, and then they all show up to 2388 02:10:00.399 --> 02:10:04.640 the house and Jackie calls them and was like whatever, 2389 02:10:04.680 --> 02:10:08.319 you pull up to the house and you pretend that 2390 02:10:09.680 --> 02:10:15.079 you'd just gotten news that JFK had been assassinated, and 2391 02:10:15.159 --> 02:10:17.479 pretend to come into the house like you're like, you're 2392 02:10:17.479 --> 02:10:21.359 responding to a call to the house that jfk I've 2393 02:10:21.399 --> 02:10:26.319 been assassinated. Okay, And I am going to do you 2394 02:10:26.319 --> 02:10:28.880 guys a solid I'm going to drop this and try 2395 02:10:29.119 --> 02:10:32.840 like in the chat here so you guys can all 2396 02:10:33.920 --> 02:10:39.000 read all about it because we don't have time this. 2397 02:10:38.960 --> 02:10:42.319 Evening too, the notes too. And that's a great article 2398 02:10:42.359 --> 02:10:44.399 because I mean, how on the nose is that? Right? Like, 2399 02:10:44.439 --> 02:10:46.560 I mean, what do we what is reality at this 2400 02:10:46.600 --> 02:10:47.479 point of that? 2401 02:10:47.560 --> 02:10:50.119 You know, if we're considering these terms, right, you know 2402 02:10:50.199 --> 02:10:53.680 this these things kind of fundamentally shifted. They shifted my 2403 02:10:53.760 --> 02:10:55.720 reality to kind of consider these things right, you know, 2404 02:10:55.800 --> 02:10:58.760 and their evidence exists the you know again to indicate 2405 02:10:58.800 --> 02:11:01.439 that not only know what happened, that it seems like 2406 02:11:01.479 --> 02:11:03.319 it was all pretty well planned out right. 2407 02:11:03.800 --> 02:11:05.600 They won't let me share a link because I'm not 2408 02:11:05.640 --> 02:11:09.760 a moderator on your stuff, but I just dropped it, 2409 02:11:10.520 --> 02:11:15.279 dropped the private rout here. But I encourage everybody to 2410 02:11:15.319 --> 02:11:19.560 read that article. And what it reads like to me 2411 02:11:21.159 --> 02:11:29.399 is that Jackie filming this fake assassination of jfk uh 2412 02:11:29.680 --> 02:11:35.720 three months well, no, two months before the real did 2413 02:11:35.720 --> 02:11:44.279 I get the balloons? The real assassination was a test run, okay, 2414 02:11:45.920 --> 02:11:50.199 in order to get away with it, they realized that 2415 02:11:50.319 --> 02:11:56.760 they had to do it publicly. About me, that was real. 2416 02:11:57.000 --> 02:11:58.520 They had to do it publicly. 2417 02:12:01.039 --> 02:12:03.880 What what The interesting part about that to me is 2418 02:12:03.920 --> 02:12:07.439 that Jackie was was it photographer. That's how she met FK, 2419 02:12:10.560 --> 02:12:14.359 you know, and and her godfather helps helps frame Oswald. 2420 02:12:14.399 --> 02:12:17.680 In this official storyline, George de Morris Shield was known 2421 02:12:17.720 --> 02:12:19.760 as Uncle George to her since I think age seven, 2422 02:12:23.079 --> 02:12:25.399 and he's supposed to be the CIA guy that helps 2423 02:12:25.479 --> 02:12:26.279 frame Oswald. 2424 02:12:26.359 --> 02:12:26.479 Right. 2425 02:12:26.520 --> 02:12:28.600 Well, you know, there's a lot more to that story 2426 02:12:28.640 --> 02:12:31.359 if he's been Uncle Jackie to or uncle you know, 2427 02:12:31.439 --> 02:12:35.640 George to Jackie Bouvier since age seven. Again, Jackie Bouvier's 2428 02:12:35.680 --> 02:12:38.520 father was at least the hereditary member through the Maryland 2429 02:12:38.560 --> 02:12:41.920 chapter of the Society, and likely also a member from 2430 02:12:41.920 --> 02:12:45.520 the French chapter to the Bouviers back to an Admiral 2431 02:12:45.520 --> 02:12:46.800 Bouvier of the revolution. 2432 02:12:49.279 --> 02:12:55.960 So yes, sir, yeah, just read that. JJ just dropped 2433 02:12:56.439 --> 02:12:59.319 dropped the link to the article in the chat there. 2434 02:12:59.560 --> 02:13:02.520 Just click that, bad boy. Read it up and see 2435 02:13:02.680 --> 02:13:06.439 that what we've been talking about. 2436 02:13:07.560 --> 02:13:08.960 And I'll make sure you gets in the show notes 2437 02:13:08.960 --> 02:13:09.520 for folks too. 2438 02:13:10.520 --> 02:13:12.279 It's a great article, right, and when I when you 2439 02:13:12.279 --> 02:13:14.239 showed it to me that last then the previous discussion, 2440 02:13:14.239 --> 02:13:16.399 I was like, this is just two on the nose. 2441 02:13:16.439 --> 02:13:17.720 Man, It's just too because again. 2442 02:13:17.800 --> 02:13:20.199 She's already a photographer, so she's already gonna you know, 2443 02:13:20.399 --> 02:13:23.039 you're already having an expert in how to properly shoot 2444 02:13:23.039 --> 02:13:26.920 the you know, the whole situation internally to the whole project. 2445 02:13:28.159 --> 02:13:31.840 And what better way to do it than do a 2446 02:13:31.880 --> 02:13:35.560 test run with the same Secret Service agents that were 2447 02:13:35.600 --> 02:13:38.560 involved in that same day Paul Lands. 2448 02:13:39.039 --> 02:13:40.680 It's two on the news man, This is way two 2449 02:13:40.680 --> 02:13:43.880 on the news Yep, all. 2450 02:13:43.840 --> 02:13:44.560 Right, writers, sir. 2451 02:13:44.600 --> 02:13:47.560 I appreciate the conversation as always as I always enjoy 2452 02:13:47.600 --> 02:13:49.960 it when we get in some ancient alien cargo cult 2453 02:13:50.000 --> 02:13:50.920 matters and whatnot in. 2454 02:13:50.880 --> 02:13:53.600 The secret societies that perpetrate these ideals. Uh. 2455 02:13:53.640 --> 02:13:55.880 Do you have any closing thoughts or statements on tonight's 2456 02:13:55.880 --> 02:13:58.920 conversation or any plugs you'd like to you like to offer. 2457 02:13:59.840 --> 02:14:02.800 Just if people are interested in finding out more about 2458 02:14:02.800 --> 02:14:05.079 my work. I do two shows a week on Monday 2459 02:14:05.079 --> 02:14:08.880 and Fridays. I've already done a show today with Julia 2460 02:14:08.920 --> 02:14:12.319 from the cosmic peach. So this is my second show. 2461 02:14:12.560 --> 02:14:12.760 Yea. 2462 02:14:13.560 --> 02:14:16.000 You can find me on Raise by Giants on YouTube 2463 02:14:16.039 --> 02:14:18.239 and any and all podcast platforms, and if you would 2464 02:14:18.239 --> 02:14:20.279 like to reach out to me personally, you can find 2465 02:14:20.319 --> 02:14:25.960 me on x Twitter, x Twitter x at Raised by 2466 02:14:26.119 --> 02:14:30.239 Giants EAT and instagram at Raised by Giants Pod. I 2467 02:14:30.279 --> 02:14:32.239 appreciate each and every one of you in the chen, 2468 02:14:32.359 --> 02:14:35.439 and I appreciate you JJ for listening and having me on. 2469 02:14:36.199 --> 02:14:38.520 And also if you like to check out the documentaries 2470 02:14:38.680 --> 02:14:43.960 jfk X on Amazon Prime and TB and A Clockwork 2471 02:14:44.000 --> 02:14:47.800 Shining also on Amazon Prime and TB. Thank you guys 2472 02:14:47.880 --> 02:14:50.079 very much, really appreciate it, and have a good night. 2473 02:14:51.399 --> 02:14:53.960 Yes, sir Bryar, I appreciate your time, sir, and we'll 2474 02:14:54.079 --> 02:14:56.119 definitely look forward to doing this again in the future. 2475 02:14:56.760 --> 02:14:59.039 And I don't know if you've how much you get 2476 02:14:59.079 --> 02:15:01.439 into serial killers, but folks of the interwebs, I. 2477 02:15:01.359 --> 02:15:03.880 Got one real, real barnburner coming up. 2478 02:15:03.800 --> 02:15:07.479 On Sundays here, Operation GCD Sundays, The Case of Edward 2479 02:15:07.520 --> 02:15:10.640 Wayne Edwards, the serial killer you have never heard of? 2480 02:15:11.319 --> 02:15:13.880 And I would argue, the most diabolical man I've ever 2481 02:15:13.920 --> 02:15:16.000 heard of, And I came face to face with a 2482 02:15:16.039 --> 02:15:19.720 different serial killer and this guy is far more scarier 2483 02:15:19.760 --> 02:15:23.439 this ever win Edwards Fellas, So definitely check that one 2484 02:15:23.439 --> 02:15:26.159 out and I'll put writers the links in the show notes. 2485 02:15:26.199 --> 02:15:28.560 And uh for your films and your your podcast. What 2486 02:15:28.600 --> 02:15:31.319 you're saying, and I think you bring some great some 2487 02:15:31.359 --> 02:15:33.840 great questions table sir, and I always enjoy these conversations 2488 02:15:33.880 --> 02:15:36.880 and UH learn something new every time, so appreciate, appreciate 2489 02:15:36.880 --> 02:15:39.960 your time, and look forward to doing this again some time. Writer, 2490 02:15:40.760 --> 02:15:45.000 thank you, sir, appreciate you, and folks of the interwebs, 2491 02:15:45.039 --> 02:15:47.119 thank you for your time and catch you next time.