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Now let's dive in to today's episode. I like to
welcome to the show, Sheila, Marie. How you doing, Sheila?
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. Alex, Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for making the trip to Next Level Soul Studios.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 1: It's your story is interesting. You are a forensic psychic
medium or.
Speaker 2: Yeah, forensic psychic medium exactly.
Speaker 1: So what is a forensic psychic medium? I mean, obviously
you work with the police and help them as well.
Speaker 2: Tell me so, basically a forensic psychic medium. Basically it's
data and information, you know. So I used to be
a police officer years ago, and yeah, for like fifteen years, and.
Speaker 1: With the psychic abilities as.
Speaker 2: Well for all that. Oh yeah, I had no idea
that I was able to connect until I was like
around thirty six years old. I was always doing meditations
with my dad when I was younger, but it was
around thirty six when I started getting into connection, you know. So, sorry,
what was the question.
Speaker 1: So, forensic Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically what I do is I work with
families and law enforcement agencies whoever it may be. And
I work in crime, homicides, missing persons, anything. And basically
I'm a self contractor. So basically I'm connecting to spirit.
All right, I'm feeling really weird, so good at this,
I'm saying, Yeah, I'm just it's not coming out slowly,
don't worry about it. Yeah. So as a forensic psychic medium,
I work in law enforcement, but I really I'm a contractor.
I work for anybody all the time, you know what
I mean. But I receive a lot of data and information.
I get a lot of dreams, you know, I write,
I draw maps and faces and stuff like that. So
when I'm connecting, you're always getting stuff, yes, always, always,
so yeah, so that's basically what a forensic psychic medium.
So I'm using my mediumship. But I'm all right. So
originally when I first started, I was just going to
be a psychic and do readings, you know. And my
teacher at the time, she goes, you're going to work
in law enforcement. I'm like, I'm done work in law enforcement.
I am not doing that anymore. And so later on,
years later, I was contacted by a Historical Society and
they said, oh, Sheila, can you come out every Sunday
and tell us what you see? And this isn't in Sudbury,
Mass conquered Mass where the Revolutionary War took place. And
I was not a history buffer anything, so it was
perfect for me because I didn't understand or know anything then,
you know, so I'd stand out in a field and
I just download stuff and they were working with the
Smithsonian and they're like, oh my gosh, so we were
I was giving the information and then I didn't realize
it at the time, but there was a guy. His
name was Kevin, and he was looking for the Babe
Ruth lost piano. And you know, so Babe Ruth was
a famous Red Sox.
Speaker 1: Player Red before they were They.
Speaker 2: Said, we found the piano. It broke the curse.
Speaker 1: Is that when it happened.
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, So Kevin was always searching for the piano,
and this Kevin is someone Kevin's here. Kevin. Kevin was
a Historical Society member and he was part of the
group and he was always searching for the piano. And
at that time I had agreed that I would go
and do the historical stuff. I knew Kevin was interested
in that, but I said no, no, because you have
to understand, I was living a double life. I didn't
tell anybody that I was a medium. I did this
on Sundays because I was a political person. I was
a police officer. I didn't want people knowing. Yeah. Yeah,
I didn't want anyone knowing what I was doing because
I know I was the biggest skeptic, so I know
what they would be thinking and feeling. I'm like, forget it,
you know, so always make long story short. One time,
So every Sunday we'd go out, and one time there
was two of us. There was Lee and Kevin, two
of them, Lee, Kevin and me, and we went out
to a pond and first thing, I saw a flash
of from spirit. I saw a flash of the green
Green Monster. And I said, oh, Kevin, this is that
baseball thing. I don't want nothing to do with this.
He's like, please just give us ten minutes. I'm like,
all right, fine, I'll give you ten minutes and then
let's get back to work. Okay, great. So we walk
up the hill and I pick up a stick and
I went in and I saw flashes of nautical marks.
I asked, Spirit, you know, show me answer his question.
Where was the piano? Oh? All that kind of and
I saw a nautical mark, so I gave it to them.
Well I didn't know it, but the next day they
had a state diver and a diving team and a
permit for the pond. They went out with those nautical
marks and they found the vineys of the piano in
ten minutes.
Speaker 1: So what is this piano?
Speaker 2: So this was technically I supposedly it was Babe Ruce's
piano that was thrown into this river where his cottage was,
but they could never find it, and the environmental police
were out there for thirty years because there's theero visibility,
searching for it, and in ten minutes after Spirit gave
me the knock, they found it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I then from that moment, the curse of
the Bambino.
Speaker 2: It was lifted. But my life I wanted to die.
I wanted to crawl under a rock because every it
was gone.
Speaker 1: How did you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the universe said, Sheila, you're coming out today, right,
and I was. I didn't know what to do, you know,
And so it went from.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't as it wasn't a hush hush thing.
Speaker 2: A Japan, India was all over the news. Oh my god.
You think I would have been happy. I didn't. I
was devastated. Yeah, And so, uh, next thing I know,
I'm sitting in my studio in this old mill in Medway, Massachusetts,
and I get a knock on the door and it's agents,
not like not like police, like bigger okay, oh yeah
sometimes and uh but even bigger than that. And so
they're like, can you help us with this? Can It
wasn't even missing persons and stuff. I'm thinking, oh wow.
And then there that's when forensics became. The universe says
you're doing forensics now. And so next thing I know,
I'm working on cases. You know, I'm working on missing persons,
all different types of cases everything. So not only am
I doing mediumship, but I was doing police work at
the same time, so it kind of intertwined.
Speaker 1: So I isn't it.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And then I realized I said, okay, well,
the universe has set my foundation all these years. I
so get it now. I accept this, right, And so yeah, right,
everything's a calling because this is what this is a
calling to me. You know, and I I didn't want
to work with police again, I didn't want to even
do mediumship. But in my heart originally, actually, when I
was thirty six, this is funny. I was I was
in my bedroom and my daughter was she was like
two years old or something, and she's running around and
it was raining out, and all of a sudden, I
was on the phone with my sister alone. I said, Hey,
is it raining at your house? She's like now, I'm like, oh,
it isn't mine. So I and then we had contemporary
when so I slid the window. I'm like and then
it stopped, Like that's weird. So I sat in the
in my bed and I'm talking to her. My daughter's
running around, and all of a sudden I see this
white light at the end of my bedroom was the
bathroom door, and this white light was about this high,
like around my eyes, not in my head, comes around
this and kind of sees me and stops. I'm like, oh,
it's like seven o'clock going, you know like that.
Speaker 1: She's like, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Are you seeing spirits? I'm like, who is this? Is
my sister? I'm like no, and I yeah, I was
afraid that it would see me talk. But I wasn't scared.
I was just like, what the hell's happened? My daughter
is looking at it? Yeah, she sorry too, And all
of a sudden it picks up and flies across the
room and then that was gone, and I said, what
the hell was that? So the next that Christmas, I
get a skiff certificate from my sister in law Meet
your Spirit Guide class and I'm like, she's out of
her flip in mind. I am not going there. I'm
a Roman Catholic if I I never.
Speaker 1: Even had So where's what? Where's this in the timeline.
Speaker 2: I was about thirty six years old.
Speaker 1: Oh so you haven't. You haven't come out of this
is three business this.
Speaker 2: I went from Babe Ruth all the way back, got it?
And uh so I uh uh And that was like
ten years later, the Babe Ruth and so I was
like devastated and I and I had never even had
a psychic reading before. I didn't believe in any of
that at all at all.
Speaker 1: So is this the starting point thirty six But that
moment with the with the light, that's the first time.
Speaker 2: So the first time. Yeah, and but I I had
had things happen around, you know, like dreams. I was heightened,
kid this and that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there was there's glimpses of it, but nothing
that you could easily you could kind of like yeah,
whatever nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so as a Catholic, yeah, as speaking as a Catholic,
a recovering Catholic myself. We'll be right back after a
word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.
As a Catholic, when you saw that, what's the first
thing that you thought it was.
Speaker 2: I thought it was the Blessed Mother, Okay, yeah, And
I said, oh my god, I think it was the
Blessed Mother. And then the part of me said, or
was that an alien because it came.
Speaker 1: It could be mother married, yeah, yeah, or it came
from the sky.
Speaker 2: So my conclusion was is that I heard lightning and
it rained a little bit and it stopped. So whatever
it was, I believe, and I think I'm crazy, I
don't care. That it came from the sky and it
was energy. That's what I felt. And it wasn't scary.
It wasn't like shocking, yeah for you yeah, first time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was like, look, as as well versed as
I am in the world that you come from in
the channeling world and the mystical world. If I just
saw a ghost or a light being in front of
me and me understanding all of it, I'd still be going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like okay, and I'll be honest with you, Alex.
That's what keeps me in it because every like I
went to this, So I went to the spirit guide
class that my sister in law gave me a year
later because I put it in the cup and I'm like,
I'm not gonna let you sie, I'm not going away.
Speaker 1: That there is a spirit guide's class back then is
pretty amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And so it was like meet your spirit guide.
So basically I walked into the class and there's like
twenty people and the.
Speaker 1: People it's not like three people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the lady says to me, Oh, we're going
to do meditation. I said, oh, my dad, my dad
used to do meditations with me when I was eleven.
I know how to do meditation right, guided meditation. So
I went, I said I could do this piece of cake.
I'm okay now. And when I got in and I said,
I said, I said a prayer. I said, Oh God,
Jesus Mary, whoever all the things. If I'm not supposed
to see anything, don't let me see. I give everything
to you, just don't let me see. Well what happened
because I let go and I trusted, I saw everything, okay,
So I said, I come out crying. I'm like, oh
my god, I'm because my meditations took off. I went
other places. I was getting messaged. It was like instant,
and I said, my god.
Speaker 1: This is real.
Speaker 2: So I came home. I have to tell you that.
I came home and I told my husband at the time.
I said to him, I have to do this, and
he goes, what I said, mediumship? He goes, what the
hell is that? And I said, you know, like readings.
He's like, oh my god. And I said it's okay,
you can divorce me, but I have to teach people
how to connect really and he's like what I go.
If I don't do this, I'm going to die. That's
how strong it went. And I didn't even know what
a calling was at the time, because I just my
mother's like, that's a calling. I'm like, well, what's a calling? Ha ha? Right,
you know I didn't get it at the time, but yeah,
So that's how it began for me, I accepted this
calling and I because I knew in my heart it
was everything. And shame on me for not teaching people
how to connect to the universe.
Speaker 1: If you didn't, yeah.
Speaker 2: Shame on me. And that's and so I had to
do readings in the beginning, and I didn't like that
because I was very Catholic. I don't want to go
to hell, you know. But what I you know, what I.
Speaker 1: Mean, this conversation alone, you're going straight. It's not you know,
do not pass go, do not collect two hundred dollars.
I mean, you're done, You're right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I so there. I was always a
very spiritual person, and so there I began to coexist
and started. The universe was always teaching me and still
is always. You know, there's no perfect medium, there's no
perfect person. So the universe is always teaching you on
your foundation from my experience, and so at that time,
that's when my conscious uh energy experience started and coexisting,
finding the spirituality and everyone's religion and not the man
made part, you know, And so that was key. Uh
So well, there I began teaching, and as I taught,
I learned in the universe gave me more even like
my trips to India. When I first started, I was
really rejected from society. I lost friends, everything, and it
was really really really yeah you know, all right, really
really tough. And uh So I would read books on
Tibet and the Dalai Lama this, and I said, oh,
they find the Dalai Lama through trance. I can do that,
I'm like, and then they accept women as equally spiritually.
I'm like, oh my god, I found my.
Speaker 1: Trus just like the Catholic Church, except different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly, it's exactly the same, completely different, different.
And so I said, oh my god, I definitely I'm
going to go to Tibet someday, right and and my
you can't go there, they exile whatever. And I'm like, oh, go,
I'm going to go visit him someday. And you know,
I'm going to go next month. Literally this is my
ex husband. Yeah, I actually going to meet Dalai Lama
next month. So I'm like, wow, well it came true.
And I told him, I go, oh, you want to
come with me? He goes, I'm not going to a
third world country. I'm like, it looks like I'm going alone,
you know, And that's Okay, I don't have no problem.
But so anyways, as far as connection, you know, everybody
is the same. I've just found that with my teachers
and all my experiences. You know, people are like, oh,
you're cool, you're forensic medium. I'm thinking, well, I'm just
a person and I'm channeling.
Speaker 1: I go.
Speaker 2: Everybody can do it. Some people, I believe, are beginners.
Some people play uh professional, and some people maybe have
a calling, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Every one of us could if we physically have the
ability to throw a ball into a basket. Yeah, but
not all of us are Michael Jordan exactly. We all
have the ability to play the game, but there's just
different levels of it, whether through practice or whether through
inherent talent or what you bring into this life. Absolutely,
you know we all have those gifts. Yes, and so on.
I wanted to go back for a second because as
a I have a lot of Catholics who watch the show.
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. My kids went to parochial school,
and the mothers loved me. On the side, they'd have
partties and every time I said the church, we wouldn't
talk about it.
Speaker 1: And I still feel guilty about going to school so,
but when you were telling me you were being taught
to meditate at eleven, that's in the depth of your Catholicism.
How did how did you kind of wrap meditation which
is not looked upon fondly in Roman Catholic traditions. There's prayer,
but that's prayer, that's not meditation. Prayer is connecting to
something outside of you, which is God. Meditation is all
about connecting within in which goes against the Catholic Church,
if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, so for me, my parents lived apart, and
I would go to my dad's house and he was
ended up being chief of police, but he was policed
to as and from a big policing family, and he
loves Yeah he on this and on this right, and
on the side, a lot of ego, a lot of
so Anyways, on the side he was learning hypnotism because
he listened to this at the time. He was learning hypnotism.
But I really think it was mediumship because he was
learning for hit and run cases. And he says, yeah,
I can see the license plates in my head, and
I'm thinking that's really mediumship, Dad. That's not really hypnotist.
Speaker 1: That's not that's not even close to It was a cover.
Speaker 2: It was a cover up, you know. So I would
go and.
Speaker 1: At that time, right, I mean that literally like the
state kind of Yeah.
Speaker 2: So my dad had the choice to have his hypnotist
business or do the sergeant for police, and he chose
the policing and he to let that go.
Speaker 1: It's a safer but he but he was the starting
point for you.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I would sit on the couch and he'd say, okay, Sheila,
go in close your eyes and then I So I
had a complete trust with a guided meditation at a
young age, and I just thought everybody did that with
their ads, you know what I mean. I was the
guinea pig because he wanted to teach people and to
you know, for clients and stuff like that. And yeah,
it was the best thing that ever happened. But my
in my eyes, I look back and even when I
was in the fourth grade, I used to I started
getting a lot of dreams and stuff that were real clear,
and I just thought there were nightmares. And I was
very anxious kid, you know what I mean, and very heightened,
like I was afraid of the dark. I mean, but
I was feeling everything is really what was happening.
Speaker 1: You know. You know what's interesting is I was raised
in New York, so I was I was raised in Queens,
New York in the AA back in the day, so
I'm familiar with Philly and the mass in Boston in
that area pretty well. That is a Catholic stronghold absolutely,
I mean Irish Catholic strongholds. Oh yeah, so you're basically
an enemy territory. If you were in the metaphysical media,
it's you know, now it's different obviously, but back then
when you were coming up, when you were in your thirties, yeah,
that must have been insane. And I can't even imagine
for your father.
Speaker 2: It was really hard.
Speaker 1: You couldn't it. You had to be closeted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had no choice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would be exiled, Yeah, absolutely lately exiled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I yeah, it was. It was really funny
because now the universe has me down south and it's
almost the same thing. I'm just thinking about that now.
I'm like, yeah, because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're now in Florida, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: And people are not open to even readings and stuff.
It's so completely different than like Salem, well you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean, or California.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it's it's different. It's different. But now
I find myself more global, you know, which is great.
Thank God for the internet, you know, it's opened up
my world. I can teach more people all over the world.
And thank God for the online you know zoom. But yeah,
it was it was not easy. It was really really
really hard for me. And even though I mean, I
know people judging all that, but I always tell everyone,
you know, I'm just like you. I'm not any different
than you. Why don't you come to my class. I'll
teach you how They're like, I'm like everyone. Everyone's able
to connect. There's not one person that I haven't been
able to learn to connect. You know, if you can
learn to let go, you learn to have faith in
your higher power and you trust the universe, your higher consciousness,
your soul, you know, your energy inside you is who
we are. These are just our astronaut suits.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: You know, and we are already doing this as the
beings of light. We are already light inside us. There's
no trickery, there's no thing to feel bad or scared about.
It's who you are as a being. We're connected everything.
We live in space. People. I tell everyone, I'm like,
are we in a workshop? I'm like, we live in
the universe. We don't just live in Boston. We live Hello,
here's the moon. We're here. We're in space. You know.
We're beings of light, you know, we're higher conscious. Everything
is energy and vibration and frequency, I said, And you
can learn to ride that, you know what I mean,
and use it to your best interest as well. So
I also teach entrepreneurs and stuff too, not just psychic
and mediums. And I'll be honest with you, I prefer
to teach people who are just pre beginners, beginners, you know.
I just love watching them grow into who they are.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's fun to watch that. But I mean, I'll teach anybody,
but it's it's interesting. But yeah, everyone's able to and
everything is higher consciousness. And it's really funny because like,
I'm not want to read books or anything like that.
That's just not who I am. I'm more visual, you know. Yeah,
And so everything I've learned has come from spirit, you know,
and as I grow, I'll you know, I'll give that
to the people around me, you know what I mean,
and they believe me or not.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know.
Speaker 2: Right now I'm working. I'm working on five cases and
that I had one case that I got dreams last night.
You know, I never know, so it's different for me.
That's how I know the forensics is a calling for me,
because like I don't pick my cases. Like there's so
many people out there in the world who need help,
you know, and they're asking for help. But I just
ask God the universe to bring me who I need
to help, and then that that's how it happens to me.
I'll get a phone call or an email, you know,
and because I would be exhausted, you know, this is
just too many and I forget why I'm telling you this.
But anyways, I had a dream last night, and yeah,
I never know. Like how I know it was a
calling is because I'm getting dreams and I'm not asking
for them. It's like this is something new with me
that just started it happening like eight years ago, you know,
like I would always get the information. Actually I've made
a blueprint with the forensics as well, because nobody taught
me how to do it, Like I knew how to
connect with mediumship and as an intuitive you know, but
to actually make a blueprint of how I receive everything. So, like,
for instance, I had a woman. I always use this
case when I'm podcast because it's my most memorable one.
This woman comes in and into my studio and I said, okay, please,
I know it's for forensics, and I said, okay, please
don't tell me anything. I get her information first, because
everyone's suspect. I've actually had suspects come in for information
for me to make themselves look good and stuff. Yeah,
so but Universe shows me I need to contact somebody,
you know. So anyways, I get the information and I said,
just give me the person's first name she gives me.
I didn't know it at the time, but a little
boy's first name. And I said, okay, I'm going to
sit down with you and I'm going to draw and
see what spirit gives me. So when I channel, it's
like a deep meditation, and you know how to do that.
And so I'm just receiving images or I'm feeling words,
I'm getting information and what I do is I just
dropt it jotted down jo jo jo joh. Yeah, you know,
so I got like fifty papers and I'm doing it
in front of her. I'm like, don't say anything, okay,
And so I'll tell her. I said, this is what
I got from spirit. If any of it resonates, you
just put your hand up. So I tell her everything
that I got. She's over the ball and he riz up.
She goes, I understand everything. I said. Okay, don't tell
me anything. I said in a weak time, I'm gonna
see if I get any dreams and then we'll meet again.
Sure enough, I got a dream. Actually it was for
two weeks straight. Every night my my husband, I was
married at the time. He'd be waking up. You haven't
one of those because I'd be screaming, you have one
of those dreams, Like my god. So I'm writing everything down.
Speaker 1: Rough for your husband. I gotta say, yeah, situation.
Speaker 2: We're not married anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm being empathetic to your husband. And
all of a sudden, like someone's like, who's really grounded.
It's like this is all crazy. All of a sudden,
the woman next year, I'm like, you're having the ninemares again.
It was talks again. I can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really bad and it was really bad.
I ended up with my own bedroom and it's.
Speaker 1: Like snoring to another level.
Speaker 2: Essentially, basically, So this little boy was coming to me
and I'll never forget it, and so he yeah, I
didn't know it was a little boy. I'm just going
what I'm seeing, right, And I would see the top
of his hair, which was like dirty blonde. And now, oh,
and I was in I will give you the state.
That's all I'm going to say, because I never talked
about the names around. I was in New York City, Okay,
in my dream, I was in New York City and
I could see all the buildings and everything, and I
can still see it now like when I talk to you,
like the files, because everything's vibration. Everything's in a kashak records,
which is basically memory, you know. And so I'm visualizing
it now and I could see it, and the little
boy was showing me what he did that day. And
then I I even wrote down when I drove when
I after I saw the visual I wrote down words
and stuff, and I'm like, what the hell is a
pagodaga pagoda I didn't even know what that means. It's
like a corner store yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah,
and I wrote it down. I'm like, I don't know
what that is. I keep on going and I was visual.
I'll never forget. I'll tell you a little. So I
was in there and the little boy took me into
a room. It was a small room, and I looked
on the floor and then I heard a door close
behind me, you know, And and I looked and the
next thing I know, I look on the wall and
there is a picture of a school bus and I'm like,
oh that next thing I know, I'm outside near a river.
I'm like, what's going on. Well, apparently I was in
a freezer. Yeah, I was in a freezer. And I'm like, oh,
I can freak out. And okay, So spirits like right
now I'm connected. Like in the beginning, I used to
have to be in deep meditation, but like now all
the time, and Spirit's telling me. I was on a
bridge and I heard loud as day. I don't think
it was a little boy's name, but it was a voice,
but it was a higher voice. It gave me a
number of a street and yeah, and I'm like, okay,
so I wrote it down. So turns out that that
was a lot of the information apparently make a long
story show it. This went on for two weeks. It
was just I'm blown away. I'm like, wow, this is
really cool, you know. I'm like, wow, really, God, you
know what's this? You know? And like and I draw
the maps and everything, but I can see it visually.
Oh if I could take you in my head, you
know what I mean. And so I do the best
I try, you know, and I got all the information,
and turns out they gave me a lineup. Now, when
I was walking into this corner store, I saw this
person's face. Oh my gosh, and I drew it best
I can. Sometimes I can draw when i'm in spirit
because i'm channeling. Like I can't draw right now, but
if I'm channeling, it'll be the beautifulest apple you've ever seen,
you know what I mean. Because spirit's coming through me.
I'm allowing myself to just kind of relax a little bit.
But honestly, it's a different It's a vibration, is what
it is, you know. And so anyways, I see the
person's face and uh, anyways, they I give them the
copy and this is him, this is him three hundred percent. Okay,
So they give me a I'm working with the missing
Person's unit in New York and they give me a
lineup of three people. Which one is it? I said,
it's him, three hundred percent. I'm my gosh, it's him.
I see him in my my gosh, it's him. They're like, no,
I'm telling you right now, that's dude. That's the dude.
Sure enough. Uh, they were wrong, and they got a
confession out of the guy. He's in for life now. Yeah,
and what are the odds of that? But they can't
sometimes they can't use me in court, but they'll come
like they can't use me, but they get all the
information they need, then they use it, then they find it.
Speaker 1: They figure out how to connect this. Yeah, and so yeah,
it's kind of like doing an illegal tap. Yeah, and
you can't use it in court, but that information is
really valuable.
Speaker 2: And this this case was a cold case of thirty
nine years shut up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I was like, wow, Wow, So.
Speaker 1: You were just in You're you're just kind of like
a spectator. Yeah, well that's all I am. I'm just
watching it. That was pretty cool. You're doing it.
Speaker 2: Last night, I had Tom Brady in my dream.
Speaker 1: I really no but I really gets.
Speaker 2: But it actually meant something on a case. So but
not Tom, but I'd say, wow, what did that? Who
knew that I would he would be a link for me.
But yeah, so you just never know. I'm a spectator
and what keeps me going and what keeps me doing
it is the adrenaline rush, you know. I'm like, oh, well, let.
Speaker 1: Me let me ask you something I want to I've
never asked this question before, but it's it's it came
to me as.
Speaker 2: I've been opening and I'll just have to say, I'm
so honored to be on your show because you are
really the bridge the consciousness for everyone right now. No, really,
and this is your calling and I think it's one
wonderful that you're sharing your calling and you're bringing everyone together.
I was looking for this, you know, in my heart
because I know that you reach a lot of people.
And I said, oh, this is going to really help
the universe. So I thank you, so oh well, thank you, thank.
Speaker 1: You appreciate it. We'll be right back after a word
from our sponsor and now back to the show. So,
all this information that you especially in something like a
cold case or a missing person's case or working in forensics,
I'm interested to figure out. I want to hear what
your thoughts are. You know, we are here, incarnated in
this life, right and we're playing this game life. Yeah,
life is a game. We're in the matrix. We are characters,
we are avatars, if you will. We don't dodge bullets,
but well, but that's what we're doing here. And there
are rules to this game, very strict rules, certain things
you have to if you're here, you got to play
with these rules. Now, medium psychics, channelers, they seem to
be a little bit outside the rules or playing by
different sets of rules, meaning that they can connect to
the other side. Most people aren't aware they can, but
they're connecting. My question is, with something like a missing
person's case or something like forty years thirty nine years later,
why is spirit involving itself in solving that case? Where
you know what I mean, like, shouldn't they just let
the game play out without interfering? And I don't mean
that interfering in a bad way. I'm just saying like
involving themselves. And that goes for you know, specifically something
in forensics. I understand you want to talk to your
grandmother who just does, and that's a different conversation or like, hey,
you know, where's the insurance policy. Oh, it's in the
third drawer on the sometimes that I get. But the
forensics stuff, I'm like, why are they involving themselves if
this as part of the journey of the soul to
we experience a loss of a child or a loss
of a loved one, or being involved in a case
that they were caught up in something.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious when you know, no one's ever asked
me that before. What a fabulous question. So my I'm
going to just ask spirit to come and just kind
of let me speak through spirit. But my interpretation of
that is that it's all about connection still because there's
people that are living that are I feel like it's
their connection to this. So when we pass, we leave
these bodies, you know, we wote go to heaven, right,
we leave these bodies, and we're still connected. We're still
connected to everyone around us. It's just a different vibration.
It's like walking into the next room, you know. And
so I'm not sure. I mean, I always say I'm
not God. But my interpretation of that is these people
that are still here on our human plane I feel
like they're trying to help them. I guess I understand
what you're saying, because everything happens, Yes, life happens. But
it's all about choices too, is it. Because those people
are making choices because they want it to come. You see.
So the people that are missing their child for thirty
nine years or whatever, they're asking the universe, they're calling in,
they're calling in the universe and oh here I am
the light over here, you know. And that's that's what
I'm feeling about that.
Speaker 1: Well, I get that, but like, why so if I'm
having a session with you, I'm gonna go, can my
grandfather give me the lottery ticket numbers? Please? They won't
interfere that way because that's a major change in my life.
That would be like if tomorrow I won the billion
dollar power ball. Life's gonna change for me, right, of course,
it's gonna change for anybody.
Speaker 2: I honestly, Yeah, yeah, it's right.
Speaker 1: I mean one is different once more emotional ones, you know.
Speaker 2: I want to say. You know, we have choices, right,
Everything in life is a choice, free will, right, Yeah,
free will and choice. And when we make a new choice,
it creates new outcome. Yeah, absolutely, and it can change
like that. That's why sometimes the future you can see
but you know, like in your head, But it's all
about those choices that that person still has to make
to get to it. It's probable, yes.
Speaker 1: It's the probability that. That's why I always tell people
that when they're like, well, how come I talked to
a psychic and they got it wrong, I'm like, because
you have free choice, they will give you a in
our best estimation, if you continue to go down this path,
you're going to get the job in New York, right,
But you all of a sudden might you know, go
another way and all of a sudden change.
Speaker 2: I'm almost when we're talking about this, I'm almost feeling possibly.
I don't know, because I never really asked the universe.
Did I make these choices before I came here to
be a forensic medium. Well, they certainly were setting me
up for it, because it was a life purpose calling
for me, and I recognized it, you know what I mean.
And then they set up all the key players in
my family, my mother, are things that happened in me, Yeah,
everything for this. So they were priming for that, whether
I whether I accepted it or not was up to me,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And yeah, so no, but I want to I want
to point something out here because you just triggered something
in me that I think is really important. You could
have you could have you were going to end up
here regardless in your life. You're going to be a
forensic medium. But they didn't place you, or you didn't
choose to be placed in a hippie commune in California
where all of this would have been. You would have
never been Catholic. You would have been raised in the
spiritual world. You might have had a medium for a mom,
you know, and a dad who was a psychic or
a channeler, and but that wouldn't have set you up
for what you're doing now, in the way you're doing.
And now you needed to be raised Catholic. You needed
to be raised in Boston because that environment is very
different and prepped you for something like this. So you
and I mirror in this way. Yeah, I was brought up,
I was brought up. We both brought up Catholic. I
went into the film industry, spent twenty years in the
film industry, twenty five years in film industry. I'm thirty now,
but twenty five years in film industry, bumping my head,
making a living, doing work, all that kind of stuff,
but always angry that I had never got to another place,
and I was like, why are you putting me through this?
I kept asking, why are you putting me through this?
So you same thing fifteen years as a police officer
going through all of that enjoyable, I'm sure, and you
had a good time. You did it for fifteen years,
so it was fine, but it was prepping you for
the next stage in your life. Both of us were
being prepped for the next stage in your life where
all of a sudden you became a forensic medium. I
became a podcaster. Both insane. Both insane. Ye, you know,
I already ran away from the circus to become a filmmaker.
You were a police You were more grounded. You're a
police officer. And then and then we became I became
a podcast You became a forensic medium. But then you
became a medium. But then the forensic aspect of it was, oh,
look at all the work you did in the police world,
and that makes sense. And now as a podcaster, I
opened up the spiritual show and now I have a
production company doing spiritual content for our own streaming service,
and I was like, that's why I did this. Yeah,
that's why. So it's a lesson for the audience listening.
That's like, just because you're going through something that you
might not understand yet, you.
Speaker 2: Have to trust the universe.
Speaker 1: You have to trust that the universe has a plan
for you. Yes, or if you want to go even
more meta, you have a plan for you that you
decided that you have to go through this to get
to the other side and to do things that you
can't see yet. You know, when I did the when
I went through the toughest time in my life, and
I've said this so many times, I show the please
forgive me everybody, when I almost made a twenty million
dollar movie for the Mafia, you know, and when I
was in my twenties, I.
Speaker 2: Worked with the Mafia before.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have and as that. My my first
book is all about that experience. But that was one
of the most traumatic years of my life. I went
through a whole lot of things, but without that experience
that I was obviously set myself up to do and
before I came here, that gave me the empathy that
allowed me to want to help others, and that's when
I started. My first podcast was about helping other filmmakers,
which then turned into which then was the bridge into.
Speaker 2: And I want to say, it's all about higher frequency
and vibration too. You know what I mean, Because you're
on it. It's like, you know, you manifest it at
the same time in the sense I had no idea
I was, even though you don't know. You know what
I mean. Yes, the universe is it's almost like you're
the chosen one. That's what it feels like, right you know.
Speaker 1: Well, you're the chosen one in your own story. Yeah,
you know we are, Luke, Yeah, in our own Star
Wars story. You know Star Wars we are proto you
know we are we are that those we are neo
like we are the chosen ones of our story.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: So when I was, and same with you, when you
had what did you call it? I call it a mission?
You call it calling calling?
Speaker 2: So you know what I'm like a mission.
Speaker 1: It's like a mission. A mission. Calling is interchangeable. When
you realize, oh, this is what I'm supposed to do
with this life, then everything changes, you know, before then
you're bumping around.
Speaker 2: I want to say also, it's about letting go of
the ego wants a certain things. That's so important to
let go of the ego and trust the universe that
they'll open the doors for you and that they'll bring
what you need to the table.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. I wanted to be Spielberg. Anyone, whoever, anybody,
who ever, he wants to direct the film one.
Speaker 2: You can you can direct.
Speaker 1: They want to be the success of Steven Spielberg, you know,
or of those kind of that. So we all want
to go there, and when you don't get there as
a filmmaker, you get very frustrated. So every this is
the this is the plight of every single director out there,
even directors who are super.
Speaker 2: You're going to get there, just in a different way, right.
Speaker 1: That's my point, Like, you get there in a different way.
So there was opportunities that I want. My ego wanted
me to be a big time, big budget movie director
because I only saw this path, and I was following
that path for years and it didn't work out. And
all of a sudden, as a podcaster, it starts to
get in and now I'm starting to do other productions.
I'm starting to doing other things, and I'm like, they are.
Speaker 2: Giving you much bigger responsibility than what he's doing.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. Well, yeah, I mean
yeah to a certain extent. Absolutely, it's just but it's
fascinating you when I'm trying to this illustrate what you said,
the ego letting go of what you want to happen.
Speaker 2: That's right, Like if there's no such thing as time,
there's no such thing as time.
Speaker 1: Listen. I don't know about you, but when I was
growing up, I wanted to date this one person. I
wanted this one person to be the love of my life.
And then like and I wanted it so bad, right,
and then you fast forward a few years when that
didn't happen, You're like, ooh, thank god, I just dodged
the bullet. So if everything we if we were given
everything the ego wanted, we would be self dish, we
would destroy ourselves. So the union there has to be
a guiding something's guiding us.
Speaker 2: It's a need more what you need, the universe will
give you.
Speaker 1: As opposed to what you want. Because I've realized in
my few times around the planet around the universe, if
you will in this life that what I want is
not always necessarily what I need.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think I learned that in pre Kana.
Speaker 1: I just kind of let go now, yeah, and I
just kind of and there's still things I want to happen,
but when they don't show up, I'm like.
Speaker 2: You didn't need it.
Speaker 1: Apparently it wasn't supposed to be that way, and there's
a better way around the corner. And that's the kind
of way I walk through life now. Yeah. Oh, don't
get me wrong. If something doesn't happen exactly the way
I want it, sometimes I'm like son of them, especially
in traffic, but within certain things like man, why didn't
that video do better? Or why didn't that thing that
we tried to do do better? Or why didn't this happen?
Speaker 2: And it needed to happen to make make it what
you want to happen? Does that make sense? So I'm
feeling still you're going to be big, Like Steven Spielberg.
I just feel that this is the foundation that's getting
you there, but it's going to be bigger than that,
and already it is becoming that. That's what I'm feeling.
That's what spirit's telling me.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So keep going with the flow because the universe
is providing for you because you're receiving it and there
and you're sending it to everyone and it's it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Look if if someone would have told you as a
teenager that you would be a forensic.
Speaker 2: Media oh my god.
Speaker 1: And if someone had told me I'm going to a podcast, Like,
first of all, what the hell is a podcast? Because
they didn't exist back then.
Speaker 2: This is true, not at all.
Speaker 1: Pod what Like, it's kind of like a radio show.
I'm like, what, but it's kind of like a TV show.
What I would It would make no sense to me.
But it's it's a bigger lesson for people listening that
you have to let go. And it's as cliche as
it is. Let go, let God, because if you let go,
things will present themselves in a much better way absolutely
then you would have imagined. And it's not always specifically pleasant.
Speaker 2: Well, this is true.
Speaker 1: That is the key to this.
Speaker 2: It's like a cop battery. You need the negative and
the positive to come together to go forward. Oh I
love that, right, that's one that's so fear. Fear is
false evidence appearing real yeah, or sailative.
Speaker 1: You need the negative and the positive to go and
as a soul experiencing this lifetime, you need both polarities
absolutely and needed to move forward because without the negative,
you can't appreciate the positive, and without the negatives you
don't have the challenges.
Speaker 2: I always tell my clients, you know, I find myself
being a psychiatrist sometimes along with being a reader as well.
But I always tell them, you know, look for the
gift and look for the blessing and the negative. Don't
always look at it as a punishment. Once you look
and find the gift of the blessing in it, it'll
come back to the positive for you and you look
at it with gratitude, you know.
Speaker 1: Well, that experience with the mob, for me, I look
back with love, Yeah, absolute love and gratitude for that
experience I did in today it happened. I was two
years in depression afterwards.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, I know how that feels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I met the biggest movie stars in the
world that was flown out to LA I was hanging
out with all these big things. I was twenty six. Well,
my life was being threatened on a daily basis by
cycle oh my god. So do you see what I mean? Yeah,
but I look but going back looking at it, going
my god, that was like, you know, I have.
Speaker 2: To tell you. Sometimes a couple of time, my publicist
has gotten in Hollywood. I guess I'm not going to
name anybody, but two or three people wanted to do
my movies this and that, and they want to do stuff.
And but the problem is I said no because they
wanted me to unfold the exact name and the places
of the cases. I'm like, do you realize that these cases,
even though they're solved, they're still living.
Speaker 1: You can't do that. Yeah, I'm my names have to change.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go. I have a family. I want to
live tomorrow at least, you know.
Speaker 1: I go.
Speaker 2: I can't do that. And I've had people say, oh,
come on and do it for the money. I'm like,
I'm not doing this for the money. For the money, yeah,
and I'm like, I'm not doing Someone says that everyone
run away. Yeah exactly. Yeah, I'm like not doing it,
I said, I said, someday someone's if it's meant to
be that I'm supposed to show what I do to people,
it will be presented properly. You know, and I go,
I'm not going to Oh my soul, So I go,
that's not what I'm doing. I'm here to help people,
you know. And it's really funny. I just recently became
an International Torch for Peace ambassador, so I went, yeah, right,
and one of my clients she was in the oh
my gosh, she's she's running it, and she did the
oh god, I'm sorry, I'm sorry the bread of the
right names, but she'd had another one before that. But
it wasn't for peace. It was for violence. Stop the violence,
is what it was. And so they asked me, would
you like to be ambassador. I'm like sure, and I
got to go. I'm so excited, like something's good happened
for me that I got to go and to Washington,
d C. Last February and say a prayer for all
the world's children at the cathedral. Yeah, in front of
a thousand people. I'm like, oh, And it was really
awesome because I downloaded the dream from spirit you know
what I mean, and so I wrote it all down.
So I'm known as their spiritual advisor, you know, because
if we say psychic medium, they'll be like, whooh, she's out.
You know, people still judge, people still criticize it because
they're so conditioned and so socialized to think if you
don't live this way, there's something wrong with you. In
their religions this and that, And I'm just like, oh,
religion is nice, but not the religious part of it.
The spiritual pot is nice about it, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1: Would you would you agree with me as a Catholic,
as a recovering Catholic that I'm very grateful for being
raised Catholic. Oh, absolutely, I'm very I want people to
be clear about that. I was very angry at the
gen okay words, because of the because when you start
realizing the lies and the manipulation and the fear and all.
Speaker 2: That stuff that's all man made.
Speaker 1: The man made stuff, that was very angry with for
many many years. I'm not I'm not anymore, but but
I was very, very grateful for raising being raised Catholic
because it introduced me to the idea that there's something
bigger than myself.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. This is the reason why I sent
my kids to parochial school. I sent them for the discipline,
but they needed to know there was something better than
who they are, bigger and betterverse, you know, than their ego.
That's the reason why I sent them.
Speaker 1: Now it is, it is, it is wrapped with a
lot of other stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, But it was so important to have faith
in a higher power, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2: And then I actually was baptized. I have to tell you.
My whole family was Catholic, but I wasn't, so I was.
So my parents divorced and so I was baptized Episcopalian.
My father brought me up in a Lutheran church with
his sister.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's right, ANDNOTI Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then and then when I got married, I was
a convert to Catholicism because I wanted to be like
my family, because my whole family was Catholic, my nana,
my grandmother. I was brought up Catholic in my family,
but not in the churches. And then and then when
I became Catholic, my husband decided he didn't want to
go to church anymore. So I did that myself, being
Catholic with the kids. Yeah right. And then I started
getting into the spiritualist which is because I started dabbling
into meeting m ship and that was nice. That's where
I started teaching actually connection and but what really resonated
me was Buddhism. So I was into the Buddhism and chanting,
numb your holding gaek yo, you know, all that Lotus Sutra.
And now I'm into the Hinduism, so I'm doing all
the mantras. So it's along the way again the foundation
to coexist in the global community, so I can be
helpful to other people and stuff. That's again.
Speaker 1: You know, you want to hear the first time I
ever heard that the Buddhist.
Speaker 2: Chant Oh yeah, I would love to hear it.
Speaker 1: The first time I ever experienced Buddhism. And this is
the weirdest thing was watching the movie What's Love Got
to Do with It?
Speaker 2: Tina Turner's movie, Oh Tina Turner.
Speaker 1: Oh that that really rough, that profound movie about Tina
Turner's life and the whole hike in the beating and
all the how she came out. She was chanting. Angela
Bassett was doing Buddhist chanting in the movie, and I
was like what she was talking about?
Speaker 2: And she she does nietzchere in Buddhism. Now you're holding
That's what I remember. Beautiful YouTube's on it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so that was my introduction to.
Speaker 2: Boots and Herbie Hancock too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It's it's it's it's pretty fascinating how our
like I started. I started learning about I learned before
I got into the next level soul world. I always
was curious about other religions, other philosophies, and I listened
and read about everything. So I went to Buddhism, Confucism,
z Oreastrism, Hinduism, and I just started exploring all of them,
even Judaism, the Kabbala, and so I started studying as
as much as I could because I was just I
was just trying to figure I'm still trying to figure
it out. But I'm like, oh, wait a minute, all
of these have all these roads are the same place.
That's right, They're just different flavors going to the same place.
But we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. One thing I love
about you and and the way you present yourself is
that the world needs a medium like you.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you. The reason, Oh my god, can I
quote you? I can tell my kids see someone my
son doesn't want anything to do with because he's still
he's still unreserved. Yeah, him, I'm just joking.
Speaker 1: But the reason why I'm saying that is because you know,
a lot of times mediums and psychics you know, will
come in and they will they'll.
Speaker 2: Be the full They play God.
Speaker 1: Not not only they play God, but they played the character
of a psychic medium.
Speaker 2: They play the part I see.
Speaker 1: And they're you know, they're dressed the way you think
a psychic media would be dressed. They speak like a
psychic medium would speak traditionally.
Speaker 2: The New Age movement of course. Yep.
Speaker 1: Now you have a slight accent.
Speaker 2: You know, my kids don't have it either. They beat
it out of them.
Speaker 1: Catholic skill, You have a slight Boston, and you are
pretty real and grounded and thank you.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: But you also come from being a police officer. Yeah,
for fifteen years in the law enforcement for fifteen years.
Speaker 2: When to hear something funny, Yeah, I'll tell you something.
And when I was in the police academy, I was
a special State Police officer and I was one of
two girls in the unit. And I have a nervous
you know, ADHD. But I have if that's what they
want to call it, I just call a high strung. Anyways,
I have when I'm nervous, I laugh.
Speaker 1: So I'm laughing a lot, yes, and I do.
Speaker 2: I am nervous. I can't say I'm not. There's a
lot of lights around me. Anyways, I'm standing there and
they're like, what is it, Baits? That was my mad man,
What is it? Baits. I'm like, they're like, what do
you say. I'm like, sir, yes, sir. I start laughing,
and they're like, what's wrong with you? And I couldn't
stop laughing. Well, one of the d's he got so
angry he picked up a desk and threw it across
the room. Not can you He goes, tomorrow seven o'clock
in the morning. I had to be there and run
three miles I myself every day for two weeks because
he was punishing me, right, yeah, for laughing. And then
he apologized. On my graduation, he goes space, he goes,
I'm going to give you a hundred. I'm like what.
He goes, I'm so sorry. I didn't realize you had
a nervous tick like laughing, and he did one hundred
push ups for me. I'm thinking, oh, well, someone recognized it.
I didn't even know I added either at the time,
you know, it was pretty funny.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the joker. You didn't stop laughing.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. You know, I'm you know, I'm pissed
if I'm silent, right right, yeah, if I'm saying nothing,
there's something wrong. But thank you. You're so sweet.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's true because I think I think you know,
one of the reasons we wanted to have you on
the show is because of your background.
Speaker 2: You because and that's the story right there.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because a lot of people need to see
themselves in these kind of conversations, you know, because if
you see something, it's great to have a guru on.
I've had them, they've sat in that chair, you know,
and having mystics on and having quantum physicists on and
having you know, doctors on and stuff. But it's really
important for people to see themselves in these conversations. They're like,
wait a minute, how he was Catholic? Yes, from Boston.
I'm from Boston. I know people from Boston. It's a
more grounded conversation, and that's what we like to do here.
We want to demystify this a bit more and go.
Speaker 2: Through it's everybody, and that's my mission. Everybody is able
to connect everyone. There's not one person that can't if
they're allowing, if they're willing to do the work. In
doing the work, they have to trust their higher power,
their higher face, the higher consciousness, the universe, whatever that is.
They have to let go of the ego, you know,
and have faith in their higher power and also control.
People don't even That's another thing I love about teaching
is people don't even realize they're controlling their life, even
through visions and stuff, because there's different forms of control.
You know. Once they let go of the control, they
allowing their higher power three hundred percent to do the
work for them, tricking it. All you have to do
is just be. When you be, and when you allow yourself,
allow the universe to do it. It's like that.
Speaker 1: But with that said, what that said, and I want
people because people get confused with this sometimes, which is uh,
just letting the universe be, which is awesome, But you
still have to work, right, You still have to get
up and do it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: You have to be a participant, an active participant in
your life. You just can't sit like, well, I'm gonna
wait for Steven Spielberg.
Speaker 2: To call me to give me that that next shot. No, No,
You've got to keep doing your thing. Yes, but the
more the more you practice, the more you see.
Speaker 1: In other words, don't sit and wait, you walk and
wait because you're walking. And then as you're walking the
step you don't even know what's coming, but the universe
starts putting you a path in front of you. But
you have to get up.
Speaker 2: And walk right Like I walked here today from Florida. Well,
it's true. I I my mother, Hello Mom, and when
she told me should go on this, I'm like, okay, Mom,
I'll put in for it here. I am. I flew
here and I did the I did it. You know,
I flew by myself the Texas.
Speaker 1: I was scared. It's not that scared. Barbecue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a vegetarian.
Speaker 1: It's true. I'm vegetarian as well.
Speaker 2: But they still have sauce is good.
Speaker 1: They have great sauces here, great sauces. So I wanted
to ask you with with everything that you've been seeing, uh,
you know, all the stories, all the things I'm assuming
that you tap in for yourself.
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes sometimes my friends always said, why don't you
do it with everything. I'm like, because I need to
live life. I'm here as a human being, right and
I need to have the human experience and the medium ship.
In the beginning, when I first started, I was always
going in because I really wasn't uh my medium ship
wasn't where it is now, you know. So I was
practicing all the time everywhere. But that was not good
because I was picking up on everything in the universe.
It was exhausting, you know, and as I forget what
I was talking about. Sorry, And so, uh, now what
I do is I make sure that I'm doing my mediumship.
When I'm sitting down, I make my intent to the universe,
and that's when I work, you know what I mean.
So there is a close sign, there is, yeah, but
honestly I can I don't ever really close. It's always
the like.
Speaker 1: So when you say mediumship, you know, I want to
clarify for people, So you don't are you Are you
seeing ghosts around or around you?
Speaker 2: No? I'm not looking, okay, but do you I could
if I wanted to, So if.
Speaker 1: You I could go like that, if you open up
and you're like, okay, who's in the room right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see already, but because I just asked.
So it's always about your ask and your intent.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have to ask who's hanging around?
Speaker 2: Do you want to see? I do?
Speaker 1: I want? This is fun?
Speaker 2: So I there is the older woman sit on your rights,
and she's older, she's she always wore dresses, she never
will pants, and she's like this laugh and she's giggling.
She's got a pot and I don't know, like a
there's a pot and you know how a spoon. She's
trying to feed you, and she's shown me, she's shown
me pearls. And then behind you there's a man and
he's not very tall, maybe about five six five eight,
and he's got big, thick hands, and he's older, he's
a gentleman, and he's got doc jet black hair. So
I see the two of them. Yeah, I'll tell you
who these people are in mid making messages. I could
go like that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I don't want to do reading on the show.
I'm just just I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, so that's who I'm seeing around you
because I asked, because I asked.
Speaker 1: Those are both my grandparents. Oh they literally you describe
them exactly and.
Speaker 2: I always ask like like if I like, if I
am going to do a reading, I'll sit there and
I'll ask my guides to connect with your guides through
the whole intent. But I'll always ask for unique things too,
so you'll understand it in a unique way. Everybody has
a grandmother, everybody has a grandfather, right, so you want
to find those unique things. Oh, we're just alike. I
have the same right and even the full sale connection,
but you always want to find something that's unique, you
know what I mean? And so yeah, so like I
have a blueprint in that too, you know, because I've
acquirted over the years. When I first when I first
learned how to go into the mediumship world, was taught
by a beautiful woman and her name was Rita, and
she was very traditional spiritualist, old school kind of like
the witches and all that kind of stuff. Almost yeah wicca. Well,
I wasn't into that. I was Roman Catholic.
Speaker 1: I was terrified Pagan.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and I was like terrified, right oh yeah yeah.
But she was yell at me, like she's screaming, and
people like, Shila, why are you letting her yell? I'd
be in tears crying, and I taught my mother up.
My mom loved an oak home at the time, and
I said, Mom, I'm not going to take that class anymore.
That meaningship class. I just can't do it. She's like, Sheila,
you go to that class and you learn everything you
can from that woman. I'm like, okay, fine. So when
I started teaching at the Spiritualist Church, I made it
a totally way new way of teaching, not old school,
more contemporary. Where everyone is is it's just different than
where they're not crying, you know. Yeah, And and I
know she she even told me if I'm yelling at
you means I love you. I'm like, yeah, And I
learned great from her. Because of her, I am what
I am today, you know what I mean, And I'm
very grateful for that.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I established my own way of contemporary
way of teaching, and I just noticed the people growing
into enlightenment when they start doing it, and then they
go off and doing their own Usually I have like
I also do mentorship too, so like it's like just
one on one and usually a student will stay for
a year or two and then they just grow into
these beautiful, you know, souls. Yeah, and but I'll knock
them out at the knees of the eagles in the way.
I don't want them in class. I'm like, it's okay
to be proud of yourself, but this is not about you.
This is about the universe channeling through you. And that's
the responsibility. You know what I mean, I go, you
can do what you want with it, but if you're
going to be in my class, it's not about you.
Speaker 1: So the question I asked is like, so sometimes you
obviously read for yourself. And I've heard from Ultima sorry
for multiple channel and it's fine. So multiple channelers and
psychics and mediums say it's very difficult sometimes for them.
Speaker 2: To read yourselves for reading, Yes, so like to read
your future? Oh like yeah, I yeah, it can be
hard because emotionally I'm connected, you know, I have to
really step out of the box.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's really difficult, and it's I've heard.
I've heard from very dear friends of mine who are
channel are like, I can't.
Speaker 2: That's when you won't. Yeah, well I'll ask them questions
here and there, this, and that, but I won't sit
down what I what I also asked, Really, this is
like my my trademark. Show me in two different ways
that I'm not thinking so I'll know. So I'll see,
Like when I'm doing forensics, I'll see a flash of
something that I'm not thinking subconsciously, I'm like, oh, and
then I have to interpret it and then show me
something else I'm not thinking. Oh, so then you see
what I'm saying. So that's that's my trick to doing
it for myself.
Speaker 1: I want to dig into something here because this is
I feel, this is something that I have questions about. Okay,
and I and I think there's a mystery around mediumship
and being a psychic and being a medium channeling is
a little different. But just let's let's stick with psychic mediumship.
When a lot of people think that there's a voice,
and there can be a voice telling you things in your
you could audibly hear it or you could hear it
in your mind. There's depending on there's multiple claims the clayers,
there's multiple players. You can smell, there's a multiple different
ways you can get information. But where people I think
people don't even know that they're doing it because they've
never been explained that this is that. So dreams is
base level I think. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Okay,
we all dream, and a lot of us have our
grandparents show up in our dreams, or loved one show
up in our dreams, or we get messages in our dreams.
So that's step one. That's layer one, because we are
naturally gone, we leave our bodies at night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're already doing it.
Speaker 1: But when when someone sits down in a meditation, And
this has happened to me so often, and the more
I talk to psychic mediums, the more I do these conversations,
I'm starting to realize that I get stuff that comes in.
Meditators have been telling me this for years. They don't
have to be a psychic medium, but they'll get something
called a download or information that comes in, or an
image that pops up. And this is where the ego
pops in. And that says, oh, you just made that up.
But sometimes things are popping in. I'm like, I didn't
think of that. I would have never thought of that.
Speaker 2: This is what I teach in my classes. Yeah, so
the whole key to understanding the connection. Yes, you have
your all your class ces and what I tell everybody
in class is that we do everything naturally. I don't
even use definitions because it's a clear feeling, clear smell,
whatever it may be. Getting to know your universe inside you,
I call it your inner light system, you know. And
so like if you go if you go into meditation
and you start seeing things, of course, what we need
to do, and even when we're using psychic mediumship as well,
we have to realize did we think it subconsciously or
did our minds think it? Or what would spirit show
it to us? You know? And again that's where you
have to be truly honest with yourself and come from
a place of trust within yourself and the universe to
know did you think that subconsciously earlier in the day,
Are you create that or are you thinking that? And
that's what I teach in my classes to recognize when
that's happening, you know. And also interpretation can be very
tricky too, you know. I always tell everyon when when
you see something, if you weren't subconsciously thinking what was
the first feeling you had, that's always what it is
because your mind will start creating as well too. You know,
of course, yeah, and so yes, you are receiving stuff.
So how you know is again, if you're a medium,
then you go, okay, I saw this. Okay, so you're
communicating through mediumship. So I'll have to tell you. So
when I first started, I didn't like the word psychical mediumship.
Matter of fact, I hate it and I still don't
really care for it very much. Now, yeah, I'm an intuitive. Yeah, yes,
I'm connecting right, And so I had a high I
struggled with that, you know, and I don't know why
I'm telling you that I forget when I was starting.
Oh yeah, so when we start connecting, I'm trying to
think where was I going with this? Oh yeah yeah.
So when we're in mediumship, we have to ask ourselves
again the two questions show me something I'm not thinking.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: What I'll do is like say you're in a deep
meditation and guaranteed you're going to see something. Because what
is the first thing what I do when I teach
people is we do meditation because it connects you to
your inner light system and it allows spirit to come in. Right,
that was the first experience I had with stuff coming in.
And then what happens later on. Is I teach you
how to call it in all the time, you know.
So what we want to do is we get into
that space. And before I get into that space of meditation,
sometimes what I'll do is I'll say, okay, Spirit, show
me something today that I need to know that I'm
not thinking, and then I close my eyes. I get
into the river where I like to be, and I'll
just sit back and I'll say, Okay, show me something
I'm not thinking, and then boom, I'll see something. I'll say, oh,
I think I was seeing that. Subconsciously, show me something else,
because sometimes it's high is it back and get relaxing up?
Speaker 1: Not easy?
Speaker 2: No, And sometimes it is about a focus too. So
like for me, if someone's guiding me, like say you're
giving the meditation, it's a little easier because I don't
know what's coming next. Do you see what I'm saying,
So it's a little easier for me not to think.
So thinking is the problem. So the first thing you
learn when you're in my classes, or you should learn anyways,
is not to think anymore. Matter of fact, when we're
in classes, I tell my students don't use the word think.
Anymore because if you tell me you thought this, that
guess what that means you were subconsciously thinking it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So that's the first thing you learn is not to
think anymore, just allowing to be be the observer. Once
you're the observer, the spirit, spirit meaning the universe will
just channel through you. You know, we'll just give you
every download, what you call it, whatever you need.
Speaker 1: Well, and I've spoken to some of the greatest screenwriters
in the world, and I always ask that when I
when my old show we talk to Oscar winners and things,
and I go, when you were writing, have you ever
experienced something when you start to write and then you
are just writing, and then afterwards you read it and
you're like, wow, that's great. Who wrote that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Automatic writing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like automative. It's in every every
single great writer I've spoken to, Yeah, said the same thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, And you know, Leonardo da Vinci, everybody, they
were all channelers. They were channeling spirit, whether they knew
it or not. You know, they were getting their inventions
that were they're getting in dreams they get they're being
divinely inspired. I have this one client of mine who's
likely Leonardo. I call Leonardo. He's got all these inventions
and stuff, and he's on my concierge or whatever, and
he calls me and says, Okay, Sheila, I got this
from spirit. What are you getting? He's still he's using
spirit spirits downloading with him.
Speaker 1: You know here. You want to hear a quick story.
When I started this, and this is an example, this
is the first time I kind of felt what we're
talking about. Yeah, I was in I'd have been mettating
for many years, but then I was given this task
to start Next level Soul by my teacher, my spiritual
teacher I've known since I was twenty three, Connie. She's
been on the show multiple times. She has a spitfire.
She's ninety two now. And I was so dismissive of
this whole idea of next level Soul. I was like, insane,
Why would anyone listen to me? I'm not a psychic,
I'm not a near death experiencer. So I was very dismissive.
But I was going to do it because I just
like I have to because she told me to, and
if I don't, thinks are not going to work out well.
So I went into meditation. Before that, I said, okay God,
and literally this is literally the way I did it. Ye,
okay God. So you want me to start this spiritual podcast?
All right, great, if you want me to do this.
I need a name for this company that I have
the URL that no one's ever used before that is
not even close to anything else in the spiritual space.
Good luck, because everything has been abused to death in
the spiritual space, companies and names for products and things,
So good luck. I challenge you to give me something.
And I go into my meditations, and towards the end
of my meditation, three words pop in my head. Next
level soul. We'll be right back after a word from
our sponsor, and now back to the show. Wow, and
that's definitely not me.
Speaker 2: I's not you and I that happened to me the
first time that happened to me, because I could say
it happens a couple of times since then. But I
know exactly what you mean. It's amazing, it's like, oh
my God.
Speaker 1: And then I got out of meditation. I looked it up.
I'm like, son of a bit to the r L
is available, the trademark's available. I'm like, I guess I'm
calling you next level so and I liked. I was like, oh,
this is a nice perfect and I haven't I didn't
know how perfect that name was until now.
Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, see how it unfolded.
Speaker 1: It's unfolding now. Everyone was like, that's such a grand Mike.
Speaker 2: And you listened and you felt it and you would Yeah.
Speaker 1: I moved on a quick but it was that was
the first kind of download that I can that was
very visceral.
Speaker 2: That was like, you got it, I can hold on
and you're still and you're holding onto it for life now, Yeah,
exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: You know, people are always like, are you ever going
to sell this? I'm like, I have to tell you
what I'm doing, why I'm doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's for the greater of the globe.
Speaker 1: It'sout and beyond. It's not about money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the reason what I do for me
as well. People say, oh, you could do a gallery
and make ten thousand dollars. I'm living. Okay, you know,
if I can, that's great, but it's okay if I
just do this because or whatever I'm doing at the time,
that's not as much whatever I go because I'm here
to help the people I'm here to help them connect.
I'm here to help them to become who they already
already are. You know, this is this journey of light
of basically, this is our, our journey of the human experience,
our light inside us, you know, So why not teach
people how to Well, oh, well they're homeless that this
is the so what There's still beings of light too,
you know what I mean, It doesn't matter everyone, you know.
And then I always get the question, well, how come
about what about the bad people?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And what about the bad people all the crimes? And
I said, well, you know, people have choice. They can
walk in the light, they can walk in the darkness,
you know what I mean, It's all about choice as
well as beings. Why does that happen? I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll tell you what. When I was growing up,
there were moments where I could have I could have
gone the other way, right because of my skills and abilities, Yeah,
I could.
Speaker 2: Have where's my pocket book?
Speaker 1: No, I was never but I was never like that.
I never robbed anybody anything like that. But I could
have gone the other way. And my wife always said,
she's like, wow, you you you had the we all
have the capacity. Every one of us has the capacity
to be the quote unquote good version of ourselves or
the negative version or bad versions of ourselves. All of
us have the ability, all of us. You know, Fidel
Castro before he took over a Cuba want to be
a baseball player. If the Yankees would have would have
gotten in, I might have not been born.
Speaker 2: Oh I'll see everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean because if then my parents they would
have never they would have never met because they met
in the States and all this stuff and all of that.
So he if he would have been drafted, I'm not
sure what would have happened. If a different path, if
Hitler would have been taken seriously as an artist, he
might have not done what he did. You know, there
are different everyone's got a different road. And my wife
told me one day, She's like, you just have a
good heart. You're not capable of going down that road.
Even though you might have the ability to which we
all do, you just don't have the you don't have
the heart.
Speaker 2: And it's true, I don't think right.
Speaker 1: But that, But I just didn't have the heart to
or I didn't have the circumstances in my life to
drive me that way, whether that be environment, whether that
be the programming, whether that be wrong.
Speaker 2: It's really interesting that you say about love, because honestly,
the more I do this, everything is just about the
vibration and frequency of love. It's the connection of love,
and love comes in different forms too, you know what
I mean. But that is the highest vibration. And I
think when I first started doing all this intuitive work,
I had hard life. My life was not easy, you know.
I was an abusive relationships. Yes, I was a police officer,
but I became a rape investigator investigtor. I had a hard,
hard life. I was abused, I was abdusted. Yeah, oh yeah,
I had some serious bad stuff happened to me. And
it's okay. I'm okay. And but at that time, it's
really funny that I use everything in those times for
my cases. Now, like I understand the mindset of someone
who's abused. I understand it because I lived it. Yeah.
But when I so I started the mediumship, I it
was an adrenaline rush for me. I'm like, wow, this
is pure love. The because you know the deep meditations,
it's the same thing. It's all another dimension, it's all
it's all dimensional it's all energy and that feeling of
complete love. It changes your life life. It's like love,
we know it here, but it's it's nothing like it.
So I was what they call an adrenaline energy junkie.
Ah where That's where I was finding my piece because
it was almost like going there instead of living.
Speaker 1: This heart intoxicating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's an adrenaline I love it still, you know.
Speaker 1: For someone watching that's gone through trauma in their lives, Yeah,
I think what you've said is very very interesting because
you've gone through you when you were doing the work
trying to help others, you can empathize with them because
you went through it. Yeah, and in this life you
needed to go through that.
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking. I'm like, well, thank god
I came out alive and I'm able to help right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But there's others who do the same work that didn't
have to go through that path. Maybe they did in
another life and they're bringing that in with them, but
in this life, you needed to go through that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's funny. I'm sorry I mean to interrupt you,
but it's funny because people have said to me, well,
did you choose to be forensics because you had that trauma. No,
you didn't want to first? Are you kidding me? Why
would I choose everyone to not like me and not
want to be part of my life and think I'm
a freak. Why the hell would I choose that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: But I knew in my heart that I needed to
and I, you know, i'd rather And I was in
a mill, you know, at the time, and you know
what is that groupon, you know? Groupon And I put
a group on and I got all these hits and
I told my I had people come in, they would
be sitting on the couch for hours. I'd be spra booked.
It was.
Speaker 1: It was exhausted readings. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: I could have gone out of I could have gone
out of business in one day.
Speaker 1: I mean it was bad.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know how that works. But my
linlod like, what the hell is going on in there?
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I said, like I've seen a ghosts
like all those people want yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I said to him, I said right, And
I was like, wow, I go obviously it doesn't matter anymore.
That had to happen to me, that flooding of that
because I realized how much I was helping people.
Speaker 1: I love, I just love. I wish I would have
seen the ad on the group like fifty psychic reading,
you know, and people people are like.
Speaker 2: What Max me, I'm always giving a discount. My publicists
don't do that. I'm like, I want to help the
people that need to be helped to you know what
I mean, not everybody can afford.
Speaker 1: What I find fascinating about you is again your background,
where you came from, and the courage it took to
break free from that programming.
Speaker 2: I keep hearing that song in my hand. I want
to break free. I think, is that queen or something?
It is.
Speaker 1: Exactly but you. You were you had the courage to
kind of step out of the crowd some really, I mean,
I mean I have. I've been to Boston a few
times and I've seen a lot of Boston movies, so
I know it's a very tight knit, very tough, very
hard and there's no WO that's there is no WO
that it's It's it's Boston. It's no WU whatsoever. I
know you're saying this is the way I said Boston.
Speaker 2: He's in New York.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get some coolffee and I we're gonna go
through the I'm gonna go through the door coffee. So
but you decided to not only you know obviously it
broke your relationship apart, your marriage apart. You put people away,
like you pushed people away and I pushed people pulled
away from you because you're just so It took. It
takes a tremendous amount, as my people say, to do that.
And I have to applaud you for really just listening
to your inner voice and saying you have to do this,
because there's so many people listening right now who are
on the fence.
Speaker 2: Yeah they didn't underhead.
Speaker 1: And whatever thing. Yeah, it doesn't have to be psychonic medium.
It could be starting a business. It could be just
going against the group, which is probably the greatest fear
a human has, because if you're ousted on an evolutionary standpoint,
if you're ousted from the tribe, you die because you
need the tribe to survive. That's we're wired that way.
That's why public speaking is where it's number one, right
behind death. People are afraid of.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: Public speaking is the biggest fear in humanity and then
comes down that's true for the most part because you're
afraid of being ostracized from the tribe, right, and that
was and you were ostracized from your.
Speaker 2: Tribe, and it was not easy, and I just had
to look forward. And I also knew in my heart
I had strong faith that got me through everything, like but.
Speaker 1: Not true, not the faith you grew up with, different
version of that or both well, no both.
Speaker 2: So when I when I was in those bad relationships,
when I was, Saint Michael got me through that. Sure,
you know what I mean, And I would and I would,
you know, you know how you get down cry me,
you know, crying?
Speaker 1: Uh what am I going to do?
Speaker 2: You know, Saint Michael helped me through that, you know,
and so the Saints. So my I always had a
strong faith in God, the universe, whatever it was that
was guiding me and leading me. I knew that that
higher consciousness may be the self consciousness, whatever it is
is got my back.
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and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: And because of the way I was, I had things
happen to me throughout my young life all the way,
you know, in my twenties. I always had that and
I always had signs, you know what I mean, so
that's I look at it this way. When I made
that transition, I said, well, you know what, I need
to do this because shame on me people can connect.
Shame on me for not teaching people connect when I can.
And not only that, I knew I could help people,
and shame on me for not trying not helping people
as well. But I knew that I was being guided
and like I through my faith, you know, like I
knew that my faith had my back, you know.
Speaker 1: And that is I want to really spotlight what you
just said because it's so important. Your mindset determined, the
path that you walked. Your mindset is the universe has
my back. Yeah, I'm being guided. I'm being protected regardless
of what's in front of me. Right, So even if
I'm going through something difficult, there's a reason for it.
I might not like it right now, that's right, but
you will appreciate it, right And you know, it's not
a hunky doy for me all the time. It's not
hunky doory for anybody all the time. Right. Yeah, But
if you come with the mindset like this is for
a reason, Yeah, I have to go through this. I
don't know why I'm going through this, but I understand
that this is something I have to go through and
that the universe has my best intentions in mind. Yeah,
and that mindset will change your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You got to have faith one hundred percent and
whatever that you believe in the universe, God, Ala, whoever
it is, whatever it is, your heart gogeous, because that's
part of connecting, you know, letting go and letting God
in a sense, letting go and letting I use I
don't try to use God for everyone. I say the universe,
you know, letting go. Ye, yeah, so I say letting
go and let letting universe, letting the universe, you know,
your higher consciousness. That's part and I have those a
part of the keys to connecting to your inner light system.
Your inner light system is the energy around you, the chakras,
the energy within you without around you everywhere.
Speaker 1: So what a Thanksgiving? Like what I have to find out? Like, oh,
Sheila is coming.
Speaker 2: Well, it's really funny. They all came to me my
family because I was the only girl in the family
because traditional Portuguese, you know, and so everyone would come
to me. And he's Boston yeah right, yeah, and half Italian,
half Italian Portuguese. That's the high drunk comes in. I'm
like in the.
Speaker 1: Hands, yeah right, that's why.
Speaker 2: I'm robbing a rock right now. I'm like trying to
control my hands.
Speaker 1: So real quick, before you continue that story about Thanksgiving,
you have a rock in your hand. I do so
I want people to because someone's going to say something
about it in.
Speaker 2: The concost because I'm hitting it, rubbing it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you leave it on the table. So can you
tell the story of what that was if people understand
all that rock? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh so today today what we did, Yeah, I
was looking for a rock I need everywhere I go.
I always get a rock and I use it for
grounding and it's almost like my nervous rock or I
don't know it.
Speaker 1: It's a fidget spinner, yeah yeah, fidget spinner yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And so I always have a rock everywhere I go,
wherever I visit because it's energy. It grounds me. And
so today I came and I said, Alex, I need
a rock. He's like what, And I'm like, oh, let's
go outside. I'm like, you picked the rock and he's
giving me like a brick.
Speaker 1: No, I gave me like plaster, Like no, no.
Speaker 2: That's not that's not it. It has to be a
rock from you. It has to be real. So he
found this rock and so I've been rubbing it. It's
not dirty anymore, probably my hand's but it helps me
to ground me. And also it's I always will have
this rock, you know, from my experience with you as well.
And yeah, so that's my thing. In my studio, I
have a big basket of rocks that my students will
go and get all over the world. They bring them
to me. Oh, you can use this for your eatings
because I always have a rock in my hand. And yeah,
and when I travel, instead of buying things, I always
ask the universe for a rock. Matter of fact, when
I actually had a studio and bought a Medway mass
but I recently relocated and I had a meditation studio
there for twelve years, and I had this big chest
of rocks and crystals, and I was crying. I didn't
want my rocks to go. I'm like, okay, I know
that sounds weird, but I had such memory with them,
you know, And so what I did was is I
asked the universe to bless each rock. And my meal
was right next to a river and a small little river,
Craik Creek, what do you want to call it? And
I blessed, asked the universe to bless every rock and
crystal and I was there for an hour throwing them all.
They're all in that river now my landlord knows, but
there's nice crystals in there, and I mean the people
might go dive in, but they're all in that little
river a chicken brook. Yeah that's so yeah.
Speaker 1: Sorry, so back. So I just wanted to clarify that
because people are like, why is this woman holding onto
a rock?
Speaker 2: You always see me doing that and I'll have it
in my pocket or something, you know.
Speaker 1: All right, so Thanksgiving, so they come to you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so my parents usually come to me, but
we never and the whole family, we would never ever
talk about medium ship. No one would ever bring up
that I was like and what I did because they
were still living that human life that I'm the daughter
and they are all lives that were important. But we
never brought up anything that I would do.
Speaker 1: So it's like just not spoken about.
Speaker 2: It's just not spoken about. Yeah, but but if I
have like like say I'm coming here or I'm going
not my mother, my that's my dad's side, you know
all that, you know, but pretty chill. Yeah, she's a hippie,
but she doesn't can't connect, you know what I mean.
But she tries and she she does meditations, but she's
not you know, she's you know, she's my mom. But
I don't know. I know she's gonna watch this, so
I have to behave.
Speaker 1: She's also the one that told you to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's my guy. She's my guy. Yeah she did. Yeah,
she's I said, Oh, what's what's a good show for
me to go and go on? Next level? He's the best.
I'm like, okay, and just for ships and giggles, I
put in for it and there I am.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it does work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like okay, yeah and yeah so yeah. So
I they're.
Speaker 1: Still like if it's not, they're in denial if you
will or they just don't.
Speaker 2: I think they've accepted it more now, like my brother
has and people have, and they've grown too because they've
had no choice, but too, I.
Speaker 1: Have to imagine as people. This is when I find
people are really open to mediumship. When someone dies or
when someone's dying.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I was on this radio show a
matter of fact, with Christian Farrier, Lou for Marino, and
Glenn Ordway. They're like Boston sports people, okay for years
like big then went on their live radio show and
as a psychic medium. And I'm not kidding you. It
was dark like this and there, and they had tea
lights everywhere, that's all that was on. And I'm like, oh,
it's the first time I've ever been with the room
with tea lights with three guys, right, and they're laughing.
And so anyways, make a long story short, Glenn Rodway
was not open to medium ship at all. And he's like,
it's like, well, yeah, she looks normal. She has normal
clothes on. And they were asking me questions about will
Tom Brady go.
Speaker 1: This is the reason why I was on.
Speaker 2: They wanted to know if he was staying with the Patriots,
if he wasn't. And so a lot of the things
came true in that podcast, which was great, but it
was all under interpretation, you know. And but anyways, Glenn
or Way did not believe in anything. So I said
to him at the end, I said, this is not air,
not on air, I said. He says, oh, it's really
nice to meet you, even though I don't believe in
those stuff. I said, it's okay, Glenn. I put my
hand on. I said, when you need me, I'll be
there for you. He'said, well, I won't need you. I said,
don't say that, because you may need me, and when
you do, I'm there for you. It's free reading, free reading. Well,
because that's exactly what happens people. Someone dies and all
of a sudden they want to talk to them, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, they want to like what happened to grandma?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that that's what happens. Yeah, so yeah, that
happens all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's when I find that people are very,
very interested, yeah in it, because at that point they're
just like, I want to talk to grandma. Yeah, you know,
it's okay.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is really funny. This was before
I was doing mediumship. I was in my late twenties
and my friend says to me, oh, did you know
you know John Edwards? He is a psychic medium famous. Yeah,
And she goes, oh, there's this guy. I think I
was twenty years old, and he's on rate and he'd
see spirits. I'm like I don't believe that crap, do you?
Back in the day, yeah, and she's like, oh, come on,
I was in Pennsylvania visit her. She goes, well, let's
watch it on television, and you know, he's doing his thing.
And I'm like, there's just and I sat there and
I'm thinking, Okay, well she could have known this. She
could have known that, you know what I mean, going
through all the everything saying and now I look up
to him, like, wow, he's really great. Do you know
what I mean? Because I can understand what he's doing.
Speaker 1: It's amazing how the world works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: Now. Speaking of the world, I'd love to hear your
thoughts on where we're all heading, because it seems like
it's a little bit Craig Gray right now, and there's
a lot of people who are afraid about, you know,
the future and where we're all going and stuff like that.
I don't need predictions or anything like that. I just generally,
speaking of humanity as a whole consciousness. I think we're
more awakened now than we've ever been in our lifetime,
even though in the last six months, it's been last
the last.
Speaker 2: Five years, what do they call it, Aquarius something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now we're entering the Age of Aquarius. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So like I don't really keep up on a lot
of that stuff, like my students do and they tell me,
and so I don't need to.
Speaker 1: But we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
And now back to the show.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling that, you know, we're all beings of light,
you know, And yes, it is like Star Wars, the
good against evil, you know, the dark sun light side. Yeah,
And it's just like that. And especially it's more now
prominent because of the Internet because.
Speaker 1: Now we're connected. Yeah, we're all.
Speaker 2: Connected, and we can talk to people in other country.
It wasn't like it was sixty years ago, sixty twenty yeah.
Speaker 1: Twenty yeah, what are you talking about? Twenty thirty years ago?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But like ninety five it was dialogue. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so my thought is, you know, even if you
go back hundreds of years ago, we all thought that
the moon, you know, when there's an eclipse, they'd all
be all this shaken at the moon, yelling at the moon.
Speaker 1: Right because it's not unhappy with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I honestly feel that as hard at
times as it is we have to go through these
hard times to get to the light. There will always
be negative and positive I feel, because again they balance
each other out, you know what I mean. It's a matter,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But would you agree that if there's I've noticed this,
and this is an equilibrium of the universe. Universe is
about balance, right. You can just see it in nature, right,
it's perfectly balanced. And ecosystem is perfectly balanced until we
screw it up. But everything's bound universes is perfectly bounced
to solar systems and so on. So when there is
a great negative force that arises, we'll call that. I'll
say World War two. Okay, yep, there was a great
negative force that could have easily taken over the planet, right,
but then the equal positive side came up to fight it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: But that that didn't exist.
Speaker 2: Without about this, Actually, you have to have both the even.
Speaker 1: So, even when something really negative happens in the world,
there is a positive reaction to it to balance it out.
So there is no fear. I don't have any fear
of of something completely covering you know.
Speaker 2: I want to look at it this way, like you know,
we live in the universe, we live in space. A
lot of it is fear, and we create the fear. Yes,
we can create bad things to happen. We can manifest
this in that. But I feel that, you know, there
is a rise of consciousness, but there it's not nothing
new because we've already been conscious. But when more away,
and some of us are and some of us still
are not and may never choose to be. Yeah, in
this life, But I truly don't believe that it's the
end all because again, it's never the end all here.
There's no such thing as time. This is just one
spot in our journey, our whole lifetime. Here is one dream.
That's what I feel like, Like, So what if I
go in my head like every like your whole journey,
Here is just one dream, do you know what I mean?
This is just one spot in our in our enlightenment,
you know. And so I understand where you're coming from, Civilians,
where people are it's the end of the world world that, Yes,
we see the chaos is and that because we're living
it more, we're socialized and conditioned. Yeah, oh my gosh,
so our minds are controlling it. It's creating more than have. Yes,
there's bad yes there's good and yes there is change.
Yes there is higher consciousness, and this is beautiful. But
at the same time, it's been happening for thousands of years.
Speaker 1: But now we just so. In other words, before, when
we lived in a village thousands a year ago, we
wouldn't know what happened two miles or three miles away.
Speaker 2: There could be a war going on exactly. And you know,
I travel and what I've noticed also through my travels is,
you know, like I'm out in India and Europe whatever
other countries, our country is very young here in this
Western world, and we don't even some people don't even
realize that that. Like when I go to India there
there's certain parts of India they're already higher the whole town,
the whole community, the whole states, they're already higher consciousness.
They're already living like this because they've been doing it
for thousands of years. Our Western world is a guinea pig.
You know. What we've created here in our Western worlds
our way of thinking, our way of spirituality, is not
what exists all around the world, you know. Yeah, And
but I didn't realize that till I traveled, Like I
knew it, but I didn't know it. Yeah, so I'm like, oh,
it's experience it. Yeah, so we we it's a hard play.
We're still trying to figure things out here in the
Western world, you know what I mean, where already they
haven't figured out of other places. You know.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because the US, specifically in the Western world.
I mean when you go to Europe, you know, you
walk around and you're like, look at that building. It
was built in eight. I'm like, an eight built an eight.
It's like, oh, well, our dry wall was from nineteen
seventy five, and we think that's pretty kind of thing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's so we're very young, yeah, folk, but we grew
so fast, It really grew so fast. After World War Two,
we really kind of took over in many ways around
the world as far as a power is concerned. But
we are living we are at the forefront of the
three dimensional world, right, Yeah, there really isn't any I mean,
you could argue China, now, you could definitely argue Japan,
but on the size scope, where the largest country that's
on the edge of the cutting edge of the three
dimensional world. We have the three dimensional world, the technologies,
the comforts all of that. We're pretty ahead in many ways.
I'm not saying please everyone with the comments. There are
other countries in the world. Europe absolutely is other, but
the West ahead of all that, agreed, But India and
in the East is really ahead in the consciousness standpoint,
where they're not as ahead in the materialistic It's changing.
The US has kind of invaded a lot, or the
Western thought has invaded a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of sad, actually, yeah.
Speaker 1: A lot of you know, there's McDonald's in India.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went there. I'm like, everything was vegetarians fast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no amber.
Speaker 2: But I'll be honest with you when I go to
India and when I see American stuff, because I'm like,
I'm trying to come over here spiritually right and to
find that piece. But there's you guys, and they're trying
all to get to America where they don't understand that
there's the disconnect here.
Speaker 1: But now one thing I've noticed is that it's becoming
more global. So it's not so before our main export
was our culture. The US's main export was our cultures,
our movies, our music, our art. That was that was
for many, many years, probably since I probably say probably
since the war, since World War Two. I would say
that maybe a little earlier that the world all wanted
what the US had. Where nowadays it's Japan has a
huge influence, South Korea has a huge influence. Other countries
have huge influences globally. Now, global brands, global ideas, global storytelling.
I mean, you're looking at it's next.
Speaker 2: We've done it all, right, right, so it's everything's now,
It's time to get back into the higher consciousness.
Speaker 1: So now we're like exactly, we're really evolved on a
three dimensional standard and our AI is doing a whole
lot of other stuff. I think people are starting to
figure out. They're like, no, no, I need to go This isn't.
Speaker 2: Enough, right and less is more actually.
Speaker 1: And that's where people are starting to realize that do
I really need all of this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I and I want to say also that
what bothers me as a guru, spiritual leader, whoever, whatever
you want to call me today is that people think
that there's a certain way that they have to connect.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean, connect to the other side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so your higher self if you don't yeah, if
you don't do it, this way.
Speaker 1: You're not going to connect, right, you don't have to
we all don't have to go to the Himalayas. Yeah
and meditate for twenty four days yeah, or twenty four
years in a.
Speaker 2: Case, right, yeah, that's one way.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so, uh, we're already connected. People need to
understand that they're already liked inside them, that energy, that personality,
whoever they are, is who they are. You're already connected
to the consciousness around you. Everything is energy, everything is frequency,
everything is vibration. If I could level this up, I
would you know, it's the deeper meditation if you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be an amazing Maybe I should do
that one day, just like a visual effect like that
would be water.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So so my thing is like there, you don't
have to learn a certain way. Yes, you can come
to my classes or you come to the podcast. We
can learn certain things and techniques, but you're already connected.
You're already a being of light.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a thousand meditations. Yeah, there's more than that.
Speaker 2: There's millions of different kinds and you don't even need
that to connect because you already are a light, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But there's just different paths to go down. That
each path is going to teach you different yeah things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel that a spirit speaking through me
right now. I think no, but I feel I feel
like I'm not in deep trance, but I can feel
it because I know I'm like, what are you saying, Sheila,
But I just feel like there will always be change
here in the universe, in our worlds, and that's part
of our growth of our universe, but here of our
higher consciousness. But there will always be changed. The will
always be negative. They'll always be positive even though things
are going to the greater good because people will find
that that's mucky. They won't agree with that either, you
know what I mean. But there will always be change
here because that's what the human experience is here. This
is where we are here.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: You know, and people say, oh, well we're getting better,
Yes we are, absolutely, But they got better in the
seventies too when they want LSD you know what I mean.
But yeah, sixties seventies. So it's just a matter of change.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Is it more aware? Yes, because of religions breaking down
this and that, and these conversations yeah, yeah, yeah, and
and a way of things deteriorating to make good in
light and always everything that's happening is light is coming out,
you know, light is coming out from everything. And so
that's the outcome ultimately is the light, you know, light
in a good way, you know, and the connection of
the universe. You know. But I feel that there will
always be turmoil here.
Speaker 1: You know, there'll be different variations of it. So like
perfect example, right now, you and iron are an air
conditioned room, very comfortable, you know, nice seats that are
you know, that are built for our backs and everything's beautiful.
But there's there's humans experiencing right now in an Amazon
right now, in a tribe, same time period. That's true,
very different experience right absolutely.
Speaker 2: And you know when I go to India, you know,
I've I've seen similar things like that in villages, isn't that?
And it all comes down to love and kindness and
connection and it's about food. It's down to the nitty
gritty of shelter. You got your health, You got shelter,
and what else do you need? You have water, you know,
and connection and and they're so connected to everything more
they see things more clearly because they don't have all
the disturbances. Yeah, and it's noise. Yeah, and so it's
kind of beautiful.
Speaker 1: You know, I've gotten it actually, Like you know, the
holidays is a rough time for me because everyone's asking
me what can I get you. I'm like, I don't
want anything. Yeah, my kids drives them nuts. I'm like,
I don't want you guys to be nice to each other.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I do to my kids? Love
as well? I did for Mother's Day anyways, because I
don't want anything either, because I am a nomad. I
really am a nomad now. And I don't even live
in Florida. I live everywhere, right, And so for Mother's
Day the last two years, I said, okay, sit down
my two grown kids, and I gave them each my
book that I had given to them, you know when
I made the book, and I said, okay, let's read
a paragraph because I know they haven't read read my
book yet. And so each one of them, I make
them read a paragraph of my books, right, and I go,
if I dedicated this book to you, at least you
could read it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my gift to them and a gift to
you I mean my gift to myself. Yeah, I'm like, okay,
now you can go do what you want.
Speaker 1: I do believe that at a certain I mean, at
least for me. As I'm getting older. I'm just I'm
just starting to I don't want things anymore. Things are relevant.
Speaker 2: It's all about the connection. It's all about the love
connection and the energy. And it's about the experience. That's
why I game it today. But I've done it on zoom. Yeah,
but I want to experience you. I want to experience
your wife. I want to experience the you know what
I mean. No, seriously, I want to experience it.
Speaker 1: You know, and this is so much more you know,
vivid and lively then it would be on zoom. Yeah,
Zoom is great, but this is a different energy. Yeah,
being in the space, being in the room, in the energy.
A lot of people pick up on the energy when
they walk in this room because of all the people
who've been here. Yeah, stuff that's happened.
Speaker 2: Oh I love it. I've seen it on your every night.
I think it's like ten past twelve. I always get
my thing on Instagram, you know, my reel. I'm like, oh,
what's on today? Someone else died and they came back.
But I saw, you know, you're awake, thing like oh
just a few minutes ago. I'm like, oh this baba,
and I'm thinking, oh yeah, I'm on this. I'm like,
where am I right now? I forget because the lights,
I'm like wow.
Speaker 1: One thing that's really interesting is a lot of people
who who do doom scrolling, or they watch the news
or they and they start getting wrapped up in the fear.
Oh yeah, they don't. I need them to think about
something for a second, that most of us, not everybody,
are in a room that's safe.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you're seeing war, you're seeing politics, you're seeing other
things on your screens, and you're getting all nervous and
fight or flight and you know, paranoid, don't that's all
in your mind.
Speaker 2: You're literally in the chatter, the monkey mind.
Speaker 1: You're literally in a safe room most not everybody. If
bombs are going off in your neighborhood, that's not who
I'm talking to. But the majority of people don't have
bombs going off in there, and you're generally in a
safe space. Generally, it's all in your mind. You're creating that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, everything you listen to everything you see all
the Yeah, it's so. I can't tell you how many
times I've told my kids, as they would be in raised,
don't listen to that. Oh my god, your mind and
the thing. Oh your my, you're crazy. But it's true.
It's all vibration, it's all frequency. You create your own world.
Speaker 1: There's things I watched when I was a kid that
I can't watch now.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I won't watch anything like that, like because
I'll have nightmarees.
Speaker 1: Energetically. I can't. I can't deal with it anymore. But
I have memories of when I watched it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: My ex used to always watch the news all day,
you know, and I would scream, oh.
Speaker 1: My god, just turn it off, turn it off.
Speaker 2: Because I don't want to know. I don't wan want
to hear it, because it's energy.
Speaker 1: Wayne Dyer said this once. It's like, if it's important
enough news, you'll get to me.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. You don't need to watch the news, that's right. Yeah,
if it's important enough, you'll know it.
Speaker 1: Someone will say something.
Speaker 2: Right, because the universe is providing for you all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there's you know, the US had the whole
thing with Venezuela of a few.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know. I had no idea because
I didn't see it, and somehow it got to me.
I'm like, oh really Yeah. Then I looked it up.
I was like, oh god, jeez.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I can either take this to heart,
I could keep what I'll have it. And you know,
it's really interesting. I like to go walking. You know,
in the last two weeks I have not walked, and
shame on me, but I just have not. And I'll
tell you the reason why. Because my monkey mind was
watching Facebook this and that, and late at night they
were telling everybody what to do not to do when
you're walk in because you can kidnapped. I got so
freaked out I stopped walking.
Speaker 1: Isn't that insane?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I said, Sheila, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Has anyone been abducted in your No, not at all,
of course exactly.
Speaker 2: And I think, yeah, you create, you can create it too. Oh,
so it's important.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you, but during that
that that interesting time in twenty twenty, I was wiping
down Amazon boxes. You remember, you remember it, when we
all were in the house together. I was wiping up
because that's what they told us to do. I was like,
I was freaked out. Yeah, oh my god, we were
wiping down Mine's insane.
Speaker 2: I bleached my whole house.
Speaker 1: Like you were doing crazy stuff because of the fear,
and it was like control. It was really interesting.
Speaker 2: Now you don't know what's real and what's not, what's
I AI or not.
Speaker 1: It's getting really it's I can still tell because I
have a trained eye visually, but sometimes it's done so
well that you're like, yeah, Like I'll see a little
cat walking up to a door and it's a door
bell camp. That's when they get the door bell camps.
What Oh, that's cute, And like all of a sudden,
it pulls out a machine gun just starts shooting or
something like that at a squirrel, and I'm like, oh,
that's a I But sometimes.
Speaker 2: I just don't know, like in video games, you know,
that's different. But I think that is what's I feel
really bad for the young generation right now because they
were all brought up on that and it's all violence,
you know, and so their reality that they're creating, and
you know, with poor people that are getting shot, you know,
in the United States recently, and it's from all that
they're like it's accepted. You know, when my kids were
in Catholic school, they were bomb threats at the school.
It's the oh mom, that happens all the time. No,
it doesn't happen, and it never happened to me. This
is this new generation. It's and I feel so sad
for them because they don't understand that that's not that
shouldn't happen.
Speaker 1: There's little ai Instagram. Someone makes something like hey, I'm
talking to you from the eighties, and it's like them like, oh,
must where you're at right now? Because here we don't
have the internet. We go out and talk to our friends,
we eat real food. Were like, oh my god, I
can go to McDonald's because it's still meat, that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 1: It's just you sit there like it's a nostalgia thing.
That's one of the reasons why I think Stranger Things
did so well.
Speaker 2: Oh because it's just like when we grow up, it's.
Speaker 1: Like it's it's really accurate. Yeah, it was really accurate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember even the clothes and the comb in
the back pocket.
Speaker 1: I mean it was done so beautifully. But that nostalgia
of like, oh man, like they say Yeah, there's there's
a term that says peak. The peak of humanity was
the nineties.
Speaker 2: Wow, that was the peak.
Speaker 1: That's peak humanity. That was right before the Internet took over,
before social media talk to it.
Speaker 2: I had web mail, no web something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was some Internet, but the social media, yeah, yeah,
I had not Oh god, social media. There was no
social media in the nineties. Social media really didn't come
in until I think early two thousands. My Space came out,
Space all that kind of stuff. But you know, people
were still talking to each other, people were still eating
semi real food.
Speaker 2: And right, they were still going on sps.
Speaker 1: And I found and I found out where the real.
Speaker 2: Dates in person dates.
Speaker 1: Right, But I found out where that term came from.
I saw it in the movie. It wasn't The Matrix.
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Speaker 2: I Love the Matrix in ninety nine when.
Speaker 1: Morpheus when he's explaining why they chose the nineties to
be the place where it was because it was peak humanity.
Now they did it obviously because that was the time
they did it. They had no idea what was coming.
The filmmakers they said peak humanity was the nineties and
that's when everyone was in this was like, son of
I don't believe that. I don't believe we're peak.
Speaker 2: I loved the Matrix. That was really really my favor
It's my number one movie. Yeah, I told.
Speaker 1: You, what if I told you that Blue Pill? Red Pill? Yeah,
So let me ask you this for someone. So, someone
who's watching right now and is going through an awakening
and is confused as hell, is scared because of their
religious background, or of the fear of being ostracized, of
losing or losing their family, losing their marriage, losing their
kids because of it's it's a real serious fear, I
get it. What advice would you have for them?
Speaker 2: Well, my thing is you always follow what you feel
is right for yourself and also your loved ones around
you in case it's you know, a bad circumstance, you know,
but you have to be true to yourself. You have
to be true to yourself because you're the one who's
living your own journey. You know. I used to say,
people don't come to my house for coffee and tea,
so they don't have a right to tell me what
to do with my life, right, you know, and that's
really what it comes down to. But you have to
be true to you because this is your journey. You
can't live your journey for other people. Yes, you have
to take care of your children, but every experience is
your experience and it's what you make of it. And
our lifetime here in this human experience is very short,
and because it's dimensional, yeah, so it's okay, but you
need to make every second count, you know, because our
journey keeps continuing even after this journey here where in
our life experience as a human, so it's never ending.
There's no such thing as time. So it's important for
you to recognize that you are on your journey. You
come into this world alone and naked, and you leave
the same haha. And it's very short experience. So how
do you see the outcome of your experience? Where do
you want to be in a year? Where do you
want to be in a month or the next day.
And you're the one who has to make that happen.
You can't allow you can't wait for someone else to
do it for you. You have to make the balls rolling,
you know, start the ball rolling itself. But also just
being true to you and the best friend you can
ever have in this world is yourself. Don't expect anything
from anyone as friendship, even relationships. The only person that
can give you what you need is you, right powerful. Yeah,
and once you recognize that, it'll put you on a
different wavelength where the universe can work with you, and
you can work with the universe and know that you're
on your journey, you know. Yeah, that's what I'm so.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a story. You were saying about
no time, time doesn't exist. There's actually a place on
Earth that there is no time. It doesn't exist. It's
a little island off the coast of Norway where there's
six months of light and oh really months of dark
and there's no time, like time doesn't exist there in
a traditional standpoint. Okay, So what people who live on
this small island do is they take their watches off
and they hang them on the bridge and they're all
locked in the bridge and it's it's a way for
them to signify that I've given time away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 1: And there's people are like playing soccer a three o'clock
in the morning because it doesn't.
Speaker 2: It doesn't last. Yeah, it's so true.
Speaker 1: Kids are going to school at whatever time, like there's
no time.
Speaker 2: There's no time, so everything just kind of just exists. Yeah,
and that's really what we are here because everything we
as humans have created all and socialized people to be
a certain way for control, you know, and from the
beginning of times here, and that's not who we're meant
to be. We're just we're meant to be in that
no time space in every form, you know.
Speaker 1: And when you're meditating, you're in that no times.
Speaker 2: That's right, and it's wonderful, and you can do it anywhere,
you know, and that's what I love it at any time, right.
You know. I had a eye surgery recently and I
lost some sight in my eye, and but I didn't
tell you. I tell you now. And I did a
lot of meditating and stuff, you know what I mean.
So I'm like, Okay, well I can't see how they are,
but I'm meditating still, you know what I mean. And
so what I'm trying to say is even though my
outer eyes are not great, my inner eyes.
Speaker 1: Are as hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I go everywhere you know, beautiful. Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Where can people find out more about you?
Speaker 2: My website is the best place. It's shilamriemedium dot com.
And I hate that word because I didn't like to
use psychic medium, but I have to in order for
them to find me, you know. So Sheila mariemedium dot com.
And my book is called Forensic Medium The Power of
the Unseen, and that's on Barnes and Noble. There's an
ebook and a paperback and also on Amazon.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. And do you have any final messages for
people listening that will be seen now and in the future,
a message to help them get through whatever they're getting
need to get through.
Speaker 2: Just know that you're loved, you know, and the universe
loves you. You're never I want to say, You're never alone.
The universe is always with you. You know, the Sun
and the moon and are always there. Just look up
at the sun and the moon. You know, when I'm
in India or wherever I look up, it's the same moon,
it's the same sun. You know, you're and the universe
will give you that love and that connection that you need.
So get outside and go outside, go for a walk,
go sit outside. If you have to hear the elements,
feel the elements, be part of that you're already part
of the universe, but the universe will teach you. You know,
if you look at a leaf, everything you need to
know is in that leaf, if you really pay attention
to it. So it so getting outside and knowing that
you don't have to be like everybody else, because if
we were, what a boring place, it would be right,
you know, So just be.
Speaker 3: You beautifully says, it's a pleasure. It's been such a
pleasure having Thank you, Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for having me. It was wonderful to
meet you. Thanks so much, Thank.
Speaker 1: You, Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.
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