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Now let's dive in to today's episode. I like to

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welcome to the show, Sheila, Marie. How you doing, Sheila?

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. Alex, Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for making the trip to Next Level Soul Studios.

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I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: It's your story is interesting. You are a forensic psychic

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medium or.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, forensic psychic medium exactly.

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Speaker 1: So what is a forensic psychic medium? I mean, obviously

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you work with the police and help them as well.

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Speaker 2: Tell me so, basically a forensic psychic medium. Basically it's

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data and information, you know. So I used to be

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a police officer years ago, and yeah, for like fifteen years, and.

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Speaker 1: With the psychic abilities as.

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Speaker 2: Well for all that. Oh yeah, I had no idea

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that I was able to connect until I was like

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around thirty six years old. I was always doing meditations

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with my dad when I was younger, but it was

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around thirty six when I started getting into connection, you know. So, sorry,

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what was the question.

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Speaker 1: So, forensic Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically what I do is I work with

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families and law enforcement agencies whoever it may be. And

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I work in crime, homicides, missing persons, anything. And basically

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I'm a self contractor. So basically I'm connecting to spirit.

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All right, I'm feeling really weird, so good at this,

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I'm saying, Yeah, I'm just it's not coming out slowly,

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don't worry about it. Yeah. So as a forensic psychic medium,

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I work in law enforcement, but I really I'm a contractor.

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I work for anybody all the time, you know what

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I mean. But I receive a lot of data and information.

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I get a lot of dreams, you know, I write,

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I draw maps and faces and stuff like that. So

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when I'm connecting, you're always getting stuff, yes, always, always,

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so yeah, so that's basically what a forensic psychic medium.

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So I'm using my mediumship. But I'm all right. So

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originally when I first started, I was just going to

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be a psychic and do readings, you know. And my

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teacher at the time, she goes, you're going to work

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in law enforcement. I'm like, I'm done work in law enforcement.

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I am not doing that anymore. And so later on,

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years later, I was contacted by a Historical Society and

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they said, oh, Sheila, can you come out every Sunday

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and tell us what you see? And this isn't in Sudbury,

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Mass conquered Mass where the Revolutionary War took place. And

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I was not a history buffer anything, so it was

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perfect for me because I didn't understand or know anything then,

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you know, so I'd stand out in a field and

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I just download stuff and they were working with the

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Smithsonian and they're like, oh my gosh, so we were

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I was giving the information and then I didn't realize

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it at the time, but there was a guy. His

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name was Kevin, and he was looking for the Babe

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Ruth lost piano. And you know, so Babe Ruth was

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a famous Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: Player Red before they were They.

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Speaker 2: Said, we found the piano. It broke the curse.

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Speaker 1: Is that when it happened.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, So Kevin was always searching for the piano,

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and this Kevin is someone Kevin's here. Kevin. Kevin was

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a Historical Society member and he was part of the

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group and he was always searching for the piano. And

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at that time I had agreed that I would go

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and do the historical stuff. I knew Kevin was interested

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in that, but I said no, no, because you have

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to understand, I was living a double life. I didn't

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tell anybody that I was a medium. I did this

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on Sundays because I was a political person. I was

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a police officer. I didn't want people knowing. Yeah. Yeah,

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I didn't want anyone knowing what I was doing because

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I know I was the biggest skeptic, so I know

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what they would be thinking and feeling. I'm like, forget it,

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you know, so always make long story short. One time,

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So every Sunday we'd go out, and one time there

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was two of us. There was Lee and Kevin, two

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of them, Lee, Kevin and me, and we went out

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to a pond and first thing, I saw a flash

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of from spirit. I saw a flash of the green

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Green Monster. And I said, oh, Kevin, this is that

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baseball thing. I don't want nothing to do with this.

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He's like, please just give us ten minutes. I'm like,

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all right, fine, I'll give you ten minutes and then

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let's get back to work. Okay, great. So we walk

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up the hill and I pick up a stick and

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I went in and I saw flashes of nautical marks.

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I asked, Spirit, you know, show me answer his question.

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Where was the piano? Oh? All that kind of and

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I saw a nautical mark, so I gave it to them.

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Well I didn't know it, but the next day they

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had a state diver and a diving team and a

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permit for the pond. They went out with those nautical

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marks and they found the vineys of the piano in

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ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: So what is this piano?

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Speaker 2: So this was technically I supposedly it was Babe Ruce's

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piano that was thrown into this river where his cottage was,

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but they could never find it, and the environmental police

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were out there for thirty years because there's theero visibility,

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searching for it, and in ten minutes after Spirit gave

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me the knock, they found it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I then from that moment, the curse of

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the Bambino.

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Speaker 2: It was lifted. But my life I wanted to die.

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I wanted to crawl under a rock because every it

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was gone.

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Speaker 1: How did you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the universe said, Sheila, you're coming out today, right,

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and I was. I didn't know what to do, you know,

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And so it went from.

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't as it wasn't a hush hush thing.

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Speaker 2: A Japan, India was all over the news. Oh my god.

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You think I would have been happy. I didn't. I

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was devastated. Yeah, And so, uh, next thing I know,

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I'm sitting in my studio in this old mill in Medway, Massachusetts,

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and I get a knock on the door and it's agents,

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not like not like police, like bigger okay, oh yeah

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sometimes and uh but even bigger than that. And so

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they're like, can you help us with this? Can It

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wasn't even missing persons and stuff. I'm thinking, oh wow.

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And then there that's when forensics became. The universe says

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you're doing forensics now. And so next thing I know,

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I'm working on cases. You know, I'm working on missing persons,

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all different types of cases everything. So not only am

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I doing mediumship, but I was doing police work at

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the same time, so it kind of intertwined.

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Speaker 1: So I isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And then I realized I said, okay, well,

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the universe has set my foundation all these years. I

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so get it now. I accept this, right, And so yeah, right,

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everything's a calling because this is what this is a

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calling to me. You know, and I I didn't want

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to work with police again, I didn't want to even

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do mediumship. But in my heart originally, actually, when I

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was thirty six, this is funny. I was I was

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in my bedroom and my daughter was she was like

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two years old or something, and she's running around and

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it was raining out, and all of a sudden, I

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was on the phone with my sister alone. I said, Hey,

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is it raining at your house? She's like now, I'm like, oh,

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it isn't mine. So I and then we had contemporary

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when so I slid the window. I'm like and then

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it stopped, Like that's weird. So I sat in the

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in my bed and I'm talking to her. My daughter's

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running around, and all of a sudden I see this

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white light at the end of my bedroom was the

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bathroom door, and this white light was about this high,

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like around my eyes, not in my head, comes around

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this and kind of sees me and stops. I'm like, oh,

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it's like seven o'clock going, you know like that.

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Speaker 1: She's like, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Are you seeing spirits? I'm like, who is this? Is

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my sister? I'm like no, and I yeah, I was

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afraid that it would see me talk. But I wasn't scared.

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I was just like, what the hell's happened? My daughter

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is looking at it? Yeah, she sorry too, And all

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of a sudden it picks up and flies across the

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room and then that was gone, and I said, what

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the hell was that? So the next that Christmas, I

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get a skiff certificate from my sister in law Meet

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your Spirit Guide class and I'm like, she's out of

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her flip in mind. I am not going there. I'm

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a Roman Catholic if I I never.

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Speaker 1: Even had So where's what? Where's this in the timeline.

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Speaker 2: I was about thirty six years old.

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Speaker 1: Oh so you haven't. You haven't come out of this

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is three business this.

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Speaker 2: I went from Babe Ruth all the way back, got it?

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ten years later, the Babe Ruth and so I was

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like devastated and I and I had never even had

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a psychic reading before. I didn't believe in any of

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that at all at all.

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Speaker 1: So is this the starting point thirty six But that

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moment with the with the light, that's the first time.

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Speaker 2: So the first time. Yeah, and but I I had

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had things happen around, you know, like dreams. I was heightened,

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kid this and that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there was there's glimpses of it, but nothing

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that you could easily you could kind of like yeah,

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whatever nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so as a Catholic, yeah, as speaking as a Catholic,

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As a Catholic, when you saw that, what's the first

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thing that you thought it was.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was the Blessed Mother, Okay, yeah, And

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I said, oh my god, I think it was the

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Blessed Mother. And then the part of me said, or

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was that an alien because it came.

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Speaker 1: It could be mother married, yeah, yeah, or it came

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from the sky.

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Speaker 2: So my conclusion was is that I heard lightning and

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it rained a little bit and it stopped. So whatever

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it was, I believe, and I think I'm crazy, I

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don't care. That it came from the sky and it

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was energy. That's what I felt. And it wasn't scary.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, look, as as well versed as

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I am in the world that you come from in

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the channeling world and the mystical world. If I just

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saw a ghost or a light being in front of

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me and me understanding all of it, I'd still be going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like okay, and I'll be honest with you, Alex.

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went to this, So I went to the spirit guide

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class that my sister in law gave me a year

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later because I put it in the cup and I'm like,

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I'm not gonna let you sie, I'm not going away.

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Speaker 1: That there is a spirit guide's class back then is

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pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And so it was like meet your spirit guide.

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twenty people and the.

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Speaker 1: People it's not like three people.

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to do meditation. I said, oh, my dad, my dad

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used to do meditations with me when I was eleven.

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I know how to do meditation right, guided meditation. So

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I went, I said I could do this piece of cake.

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I'm okay now. And when I got in and I said,

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I said, I said a prayer. I said, Oh God,

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Jesus Mary, whoever all the things. If I'm not supposed

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to see anything, don't let me see. I give everything

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to you, just don't let me see. Well what happened

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because I let go and I trusted, I saw everything, okay,

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So I said, I come out crying. I'm like, oh

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my god, I'm because my meditations took off. I went

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other places. I was getting messaged. It was like instant,

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and I said, my god.

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Speaker 1: This is real.

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Speaker 2: So I came home. I have to tell you that.

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I came home and I told my husband at the time.

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he goes, what I said, mediumship? He goes, what the

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hell is that? And I said, you know, like readings.

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He's like, oh my god. And I said it's okay,

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you can divorce me, but I have to teach people

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how to connect really and he's like what I go.

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how strong it went. And I didn't even know what

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a calling was at the time, because I just my

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mother's like, that's a calling. I'm like, well, what's a calling? Ha ha? Right,

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you know I didn't get it at the time, but yeah,

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calling and I because I knew in my heart it

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was everything. And shame on me for not teaching people

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how to connect to the universe.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Shame on me. And that's and so I had to

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do readings in the beginning, and I didn't like that

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because I was very Catholic. I don't want to go

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to hell, you know. But what I you know, what I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, this conversation alone, you're going straight. It's not you know,

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do not pass go, do not collect two hundred dollars.

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I mean, you're done, You're right.

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very spiritual person, and so there I began to coexist

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and started. The universe was always teaching me and still

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is always. You know, there's no perfect medium, there's no

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perfect person. So the universe is always teaching you on

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your foundation from my experience, and so at that time,

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that's when my conscious uh energy experience started and coexisting,

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finding the spirituality and everyone's religion and not the man

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made part, you know, And so that was key. Uh

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So well, there I began teaching, and as I taught,

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I learned in the universe gave me more even like

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my trips to India. When I first started, I was

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really rejected from society. I lost friends, everything, and it

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was really really really yeah you know, all right, really

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really tough. And uh So I would read books on

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Tibet and the Dalai Lama this, and I said, oh,

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they find the Dalai Lama through trance. I can do that,

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I'm like, and then they accept women as equally spiritually.

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Speaker 1: Trus just like the Catholic Church, except different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly, it's exactly the same, completely different, different.

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And so I said, oh my god, I definitely I'm

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going to go to Tibet someday, right and and my

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you can't go there, they exile whatever. And I'm like, oh, go,

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I'm going to go visit him someday. And you know,

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I'm going to go next month. Literally this is my

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ex husband. Yeah, I actually going to meet Dalai Lama

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next month. So I'm like, wow, well it came true.

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And I told him, I go, oh, you want to

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come with me? He goes, I'm not going to a

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third world country. I'm like, it looks like I'm going alone,

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you know, And that's Okay, I don't have no problem.

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But so anyways, as far as connection, you know, everybody

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is the same. I've just found that with my teachers

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and all my experiences. You know, people are like, oh,

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you're cool, you're forensic medium. I'm thinking, well, I'm just

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a person and I'm channeling.

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Speaker 1: I go.

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Speaker 2: Everybody can do it. Some people, I believe, are beginners.

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Some people play uh professional, and some people maybe have

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a calling, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Every one of us could if we physically have the

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ability to throw a ball into a basket. Yeah, but

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not all of us are Michael Jordan exactly. We all

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have the ability to play the game, but there's just

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different levels of it, whether through practice or whether through

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inherent talent or what you bring into this life. Absolutely,

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you know we all have those gifts. Yes, and so on.

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I wanted to go back for a second because as

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a I have a lot of Catholics who watch the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. My kids went to parochial school,

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and the mothers loved me. On the side, they'd have

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partties and every time I said the church, we wouldn't

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talk about it.

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Speaker 1: And I still feel guilty about going to school so,

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but when you were telling me you were being taught

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to meditate at eleven, that's in the depth of your Catholicism.

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How did how did you kind of wrap meditation which

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is not looked upon fondly in Roman Catholic traditions. There's prayer,

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but that's prayer, that's not meditation. Prayer is connecting to

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something outside of you, which is God. Meditation is all

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about connecting within in which goes against the Catholic Church,

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if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, so for me, my parents lived apart, and

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I would go to my dad's house and he was

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ended up being chief of police, but he was policed

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to as and from a big policing family, and he

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loves Yeah he on this and on this right, and

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on the side, a lot of ego, a lot of

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so Anyways, on the side he was learning hypnotism because

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he listened to this at the time. He was learning hypnotism.

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learning for hit and run cases. And he says, yeah,

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I can see the license plates in my head, and

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I'm thinking that's really mediumship, Dad. That's not really hypnotist.

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Speaker 1: That's not that's not even close to It was a cover.

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Speaker 2: It was a cover up, you know. So I would

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go and.

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Speaker 1: At that time, right, I mean that literally like the

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state kind of Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So my dad had the choice to have his hypnotist

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business or do the sergeant for police, and he chose

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the policing and he to let that go.

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Speaker 1: It's a safer but he but he was the starting

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point for you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so I would sit on the couch and he'd say, okay, Sheila,

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go in close your eyes and then I So I

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had a complete trust with a guided meditation at a

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young age, and I just thought everybody did that with

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their ads, you know what I mean. I was the

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guinea pig because he wanted to teach people and to

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you know, for clients and stuff like that. And yeah,

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it was the best thing that ever happened. But my

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in my eyes, I look back and even when I

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was in the fourth grade, I used to I started

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getting a lot of dreams and stuff that were real clear,

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and I just thought there were nightmares. And I was

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very anxious kid, you know what I mean, and very heightened,

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like I was afraid of the dark. I mean, but

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I was feeling everything is really what was happening.

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Speaker 1: You know. You know what's interesting is I was raised

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in New York, so I was I was raised in Queens,

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New York in the AA back in the day, so

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I'm familiar with Philly and the mass in Boston in

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that area pretty well. That is a Catholic stronghold absolutely,

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I mean Irish Catholic strongholds. Oh yeah, so you're basically

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an enemy territory. If you were in the metaphysical media,

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it's you know, now it's different obviously, but back then

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when you were coming up, when you were in your thirties, yeah,

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that must have been insane. And I can't even imagine

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for your father.

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Speaker 2: It was really hard.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't it. You had to be closeted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had no choice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you would be exiled, Yeah, absolutely lately exiled.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I yeah, it was. It was really funny

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because now the universe has me down south and it's

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almost the same thing. I'm just thinking about that now.

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I'm like, yeah, because.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're now in Florida, right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And people are not open to even readings and stuff.

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It's so completely different than like Salem, well you know what.

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Speaker 1: I mean, or California.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it's it's different. It's different. But now

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I find myself more global, you know, which is great.

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Thank God for the internet, you know, it's opened up

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my world. I can teach more people all over the world.

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And thank God for the online you know zoom. But yeah,

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it was it was not easy. It was really really

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really hard for me. And even though I mean, I

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know people judging all that, but I always tell everyone,

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you know, I'm just like you. I'm not any different

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than you. Why don't you come to my class. I'll

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teach you how They're like, I'm like everyone. Everyone's able

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to connect. There's not one person that I haven't been

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able to learn to connect. You know, if you can

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learn to let go, you learn to have faith in

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your higher power and you trust the universe, your higher consciousness,

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your soul, you know, your energy inside you is who

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we are. These are just our astronaut suits.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: You know, and we are already doing this as the

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beings of light. We are already light inside us. There's

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no trickery, there's no thing to feel bad or scared about.

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It's who you are as a being. We're connected everything.

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We live in space. People. I tell everyone, I'm like,

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are we in a workshop? I'm like, we live in

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the universe. We don't just live in Boston. We live Hello,

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here's the moon. We're here. We're in space. You know.

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We're beings of light, you know, we're higher conscious. Everything

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is energy and vibration and frequency, I said, And you

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can learn to ride that, you know what I mean,

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and use it to your best interest as well. So

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I also teach entrepreneurs and stuff too, not just psychic

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and mediums. And I'll be honest with you, I prefer

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to teach people who are just pre beginners, beginners, you know.

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I just love watching them grow into who they are.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's fun to watch that. But I mean, I'll teach anybody,

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but it's it's interesting. But yeah, everyone's able to and

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everything is higher consciousness. And it's really funny because like,

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I'm not want to read books or anything like that.

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That's just not who I am. I'm more visual, you know. Yeah,

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And so everything I've learned has come from spirit, you know,

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and as I grow, I'll you know, I'll give that

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to the people around me, you know what I mean,

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and they believe me or not.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You know.

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Speaker 2: Right now I'm working. I'm working on five cases and

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that I had one case that I got dreams last night.

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You know, I never know, so it's different for me.

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That's how I know the forensics is a calling for me,

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because like I don't pick my cases. Like there's so

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many people out there in the world who need help,

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you know, and they're asking for help. But I just

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ask God the universe to bring me who I need

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to help, and then that that's how it happens to me.

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I'll get a phone call or an email, you know,

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and because I would be exhausted, you know, this is

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just too many and I forget why I'm telling you this.

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But anyways, I had a dream last night, and yeah,

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I never know. Like how I know it was a

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calling is because I'm getting dreams and I'm not asking

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for them. It's like this is something new with me

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that just started it happening like eight years ago, you know,

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like I would always get the information. Actually I've made

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a blueprint with the forensics as well, because nobody taught

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me how to do it, Like I knew how to

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00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,680
connect with mediumship and as an intuitive you know, but

470
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,680
to actually make a blueprint of how I receive everything. So, like,

471
00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:10,440
for instance, I had a woman. I always use this

472
00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:13,839
case when I'm podcast because it's my most memorable one.

473
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,839
This woman comes in and into my studio and I said, okay, please,

474
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,440
I know it's for forensics, and I said, okay, please

475
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,119
don't tell me anything. I get her information first, because

476
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,480
everyone's suspect. I've actually had suspects come in for information

477
00:23:28,519 --> 00:23:30,519
for me to make themselves look good and stuff. Yeah,

478
00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:33,839
so but Universe shows me I need to contact somebody,

479
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,880
you know. So anyways, I get the information and I said,

480
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,000
just give me the person's first name she gives me.

481
00:23:39,279 --> 00:23:40,720
I didn't know it at the time, but a little

482
00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:43,839
boy's first name. And I said, okay, I'm going to

483
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,920
sit down with you and I'm going to draw and

484
00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:51,160
see what spirit gives me. So when I channel, it's

485
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,480
like a deep meditation, and you know how to do that.

486
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,880
And so I'm just receiving images or I'm feeling words,

487
00:23:58,039 --> 00:24:01,119
I'm getting information and what I do is I just

488
00:24:01,279 --> 00:24:03,799
dropt it jotted down jo jo jo joh. Yeah, you know,

489
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,920
so I got like fifty papers and I'm doing it

490
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,160
in front of her. I'm like, don't say anything, okay,

491
00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:10,680
And so I'll tell her. I said, this is what

492
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,880
I got from spirit. If any of it resonates, you

493
00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:16,640
just put your hand up. So I tell her everything

494
00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:19,720
that I got. She's over the ball and he riz up.

495
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:22,119
She goes, I understand everything. I said. Okay, don't tell

496
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,880
me anything. I said in a weak time, I'm gonna

497
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,559
see if I get any dreams and then we'll meet again.

498
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,359
Sure enough, I got a dream. Actually it was for

499
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,440
two weeks straight. Every night my my husband, I was

500
00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:39,119
married at the time. He'd be waking up. You haven't

501
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,079
one of those because I'd be screaming, you have one

502
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,720
of those dreams, Like my god. So I'm writing everything down.

503
00:24:43,759 --> 00:24:47,319
Speaker 1: Rough for your husband. I gotta say, yeah, situation.

504
00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:48,519
Speaker 2: We're not married anymore.

505
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm being empathetic to your husband. And

506
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,319
all of a sudden, like someone's like, who's really grounded.

507
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,119
It's like this is all crazy. All of a sudden,

508
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,400
the woman next year, I'm like, you're having the ninemares again.

509
00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:04,160
It was talks again. I can't.

510
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really bad and it was really bad.

511
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,400
I ended up with my own bedroom and it's.

512
00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: Like snoring to another level.

513
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,759
Speaker 2: Essentially, basically, So this little boy was coming to me

514
00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:23,480
and I'll never forget it, and so he yeah, I

515
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,240
didn't know it was a little boy. I'm just going

516
00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:29,480
what I'm seeing, right, And I would see the top

517
00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:33,240
of his hair, which was like dirty blonde. And now, oh,

518
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,480
and I was in I will give you the state.

519
00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:37,160
That's all I'm going to say, because I never talked

520
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,799
about the names around. I was in New York City, Okay,

521
00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:44,559
in my dream, I was in New York City and

522
00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:46,920
I could see all the buildings and everything, and I

523
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,279
can still see it now like when I talk to you,

524
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,920
like the files, because everything's vibration. Everything's in a kashak records,

525
00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:57,279
which is basically memory, you know. And so I'm visualizing

526
00:25:57,319 --> 00:25:58,920
it now and I could see it, and the little

527
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,920
boy was showing me what he did that day. And

528
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,559
then I I even wrote down when I drove when

529
00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:09,079
I after I saw the visual I wrote down words

530
00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:10,880
and stuff, and I'm like, what the hell is a

531
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,039
pagodaga pagoda I didn't even know what that means. It's

532
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,759
like a corner store yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah,

533
00:26:19,599 --> 00:26:21,000
and I wrote it down. I'm like, I don't know

534
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,440
what that is. I keep on going and I was visual.

535
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,880
I'll never forget. I'll tell you a little. So I

536
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,119
was in there and the little boy took me into

537
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,880
a room. It was a small room, and I looked

538
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,599
on the floor and then I heard a door close

539
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,000
behind me, you know, And and I looked and the

540
00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:38,440
next thing I know, I look on the wall and

541
00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:42,559
there is a picture of a school bus and I'm like,

542
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,440
oh that next thing I know, I'm outside near a river.

543
00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:48,440
I'm like, what's going on. Well, apparently I was in

544
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,079
a freezer. Yeah, I was in a freezer. And I'm like, oh,

545
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,599
I can freak out. And okay, So spirits like right

546
00:26:54,599 --> 00:26:57,039
now I'm connected. Like in the beginning, I used to

547
00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:00,119
have to be in deep meditation, but like now all

548
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,480
the time, and Spirit's telling me. I was on a

549
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,000
bridge and I heard loud as day. I don't think

550
00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:10,039
it was a little boy's name, but it was a voice,

551
00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:14,599
but it was a higher voice. It gave me a

552
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,640
number of a street and yeah, and I'm like, okay,

553
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,440
so I wrote it down. So turns out that that

554
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:25,240
was a lot of the information apparently make a long

555
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:27,039
story show it. This went on for two weeks. It

556
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,319
was just I'm blown away. I'm like, wow, this is

557
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:32,880
really cool, you know. I'm like, wow, really, God, you

558
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,480
know what's this? You know? And like and I draw

559
00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:37,559
the maps and everything, but I can see it visually.

560
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:39,079
Oh if I could take you in my head, you

561
00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:41,559
know what I mean. And so I do the best

562
00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:44,000
I try, you know, and I got all the information,

563
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,440
and turns out they gave me a lineup. Now, when

564
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,319
I was walking into this corner store, I saw this

565
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:56,200
person's face. Oh my gosh, and I drew it best

566
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,400
I can. Sometimes I can draw when i'm in spirit

567
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,039
because i'm channeling. Like I can't draw right now, but

568
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,240
if I'm channeling, it'll be the beautifulest apple you've ever seen,

569
00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:06,200
you know what I mean. Because spirit's coming through me.

570
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,039
I'm allowing myself to just kind of relax a little bit.

571
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,799
But honestly, it's a different It's a vibration, is what

572
00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:14,319
it is, you know. And so anyways, I see the

573
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:18,720
person's face and uh, anyways, they I give them the

574
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,079
copy and this is him, this is him three hundred percent. Okay,

575
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,519
So they give me a I'm working with the missing

576
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,359
Person's unit in New York and they give me a

577
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,519
lineup of three people. Which one is it? I said,

578
00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:30,720
it's him, three hundred percent. I'm my gosh, it's him.

579
00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:33,279
I see him in my my gosh, it's him. They're like, no,

580
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,000
I'm telling you right now, that's dude. That's the dude.

581
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,839
Sure enough. Uh, they were wrong, and they got a

582
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,400
confession out of the guy. He's in for life now. Yeah,

583
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,759
and what are the odds of that? But they can't

584
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:47,799
sometimes they can't use me in court, but they'll come

585
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:50,599
like they can't use me, but they get all the

586
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,960
information they need, then they use it, then they find it.

587
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,319
Speaker 1: They figure out how to connect this. Yeah, and so yeah,

588
00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:58,519
it's kind of like doing an illegal tap. Yeah, and

589
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:00,519
you can't use it in court, but that information is

590
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:01,200
really valuable.

591
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,319
Speaker 2: And this this case was a cold case of thirty

592
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,119
nine years shut up.

593
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

594
00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I was like, wow, Wow, So.

595
00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: You were just in You're you're just kind of like

596
00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:14,519
a spectator. Yeah, well that's all I am. I'm just

597
00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:16,960
watching it. That was pretty cool. You're doing it.

598
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: Last night, I had Tom Brady in my dream.

599
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:25,279
Speaker 1: I really no but I really gets.

600
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:28,759
Speaker 2: But it actually meant something on a case. So but

601
00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:30,599
not Tom, but I'd say, wow, what did that? Who

602
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,279
knew that I would he would be a link for me.

603
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,960
But yeah, so you just never know. I'm a spectator

604
00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:38,359
and what keeps me going and what keeps me doing

605
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,759
it is the adrenaline rush, you know. I'm like, oh, well, let.

606
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,279
Speaker 1: Me let me ask you something I want to I've

607
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:48,000
never asked this question before, but it's it's it came

608
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:49,200
to me as.

609
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:51,119
Speaker 2: I've been opening and I'll just have to say, I'm

610
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:53,440
so honored to be on your show because you are

611
00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:58,000
really the bridge the consciousness for everyone right now. No, really,

612
00:29:58,039 --> 00:29:59,920
and this is your calling and I think it's one

613
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,960
wonderful that you're sharing your calling and you're bringing everyone together.

614
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,480
I was looking for this, you know, in my heart

615
00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:09,759
because I know that you reach a lot of people.

616
00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:11,480
And I said, oh, this is going to really help

617
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:14,119
the universe. So I thank you, so oh well, thank you, thank.

618
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: You appreciate it. We'll be right back after a word

619
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:26,000
from our sponsor and now back to the show. So,

620
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:29,960
all this information that you especially in something like a

621
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,400
cold case or a missing person's case or working in forensics,

622
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:38,000
I'm interested to figure out. I want to hear what

623
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:41,000
your thoughts are. You know, we are here, incarnated in

624
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:44,839
this life, right and we're playing this game life. Yeah,

625
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,720
life is a game. We're in the matrix. We are characters,

626
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:52,119
we are avatars, if you will. We don't dodge bullets,

627
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,680
but well, but that's what we're doing here. And there

628
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,480
are rules to this game, very strict rules, certain things

629
00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:03,559
you have to if you're here, you got to play

630
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:07,839
with these rules. Now, medium psychics, channelers, they seem to

631
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,240
be a little bit outside the rules or playing by

632
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:13,079
different sets of rules, meaning that they can connect to

633
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:16,839
the other side. Most people aren't aware they can, but

634
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:21,279
they're connecting. My question is, with something like a missing

635
00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:25,000
person's case or something like forty years thirty nine years later,

636
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:33,200
why is spirit involving itself in solving that case? Where

637
00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:36,359
you know what I mean, like, shouldn't they just let

638
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:40,000
the game play out without interfering? And I don't mean

639
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,119
that interfering in a bad way. I'm just saying like

640
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:45,880
involving themselves. And that goes for you know, specifically something

641
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,039
in forensics. I understand you want to talk to your

642
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:52,440
grandmother who just does, and that's a different conversation or like, hey,

643
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,839
you know, where's the insurance policy. Oh, it's in the

644
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,400
third drawer on the sometimes that I get. But the

645
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,680
forensics stuff, I'm like, why are they involving themselves if

646
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,559
this as part of the journey of the soul to

647
00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:08,039
we experience a loss of a child or a loss

648
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,720
of a loved one, or being involved in a case

649
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:12,680
that they were caught up in something.

650
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: I'm just curious when you know, no one's ever asked

651
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,160
me that before. What a fabulous question. So my I'm

652
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,279
going to just ask spirit to come and just kind

653
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:24,079
of let me speak through spirit. But my interpretation of

654
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:27,880
that is that it's all about connection still because there's

655
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,640
people that are living that are I feel like it's

656
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,160
their connection to this. So when we pass, we leave

657
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,440
these bodies, you know, we wote go to heaven, right,

658
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,799
we leave these bodies, and we're still connected. We're still

659
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:44,720
connected to everyone around us. It's just a different vibration.

660
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:47,640
It's like walking into the next room, you know. And

661
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:50,680
so I'm not sure. I mean, I always say I'm

662
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,440
not God. But my interpretation of that is these people

663
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,319
that are still here on our human plane I feel

664
00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:02,680
like they're trying to help them. I guess I understand

665
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,440
what you're saying, because everything happens, Yes, life happens. But

666
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,400
it's all about choices too, is it. Because those people

667
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,799
are making choices because they want it to come. You see.

668
00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:16,359
So the people that are missing their child for thirty

669
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,920
nine years or whatever, they're asking the universe, they're calling in,

670
00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:22,960
they're calling in the universe and oh here I am

671
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:25,759
the light over here, you know. And that's that's what

672
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,240
I'm feeling about that.

673
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: Well, I get that, but like, why so if I'm

674
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,839
having a session with you, I'm gonna go, can my

675
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,400
grandfather give me the lottery ticket numbers? Please? They won't

676
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,440
interfere that way because that's a major change in my life.

677
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,880
That would be like if tomorrow I won the billion

678
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,240
dollar power ball. Life's gonna change for me, right, of course,

679
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,640
it's gonna change for anybody.

680
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: I honestly, Yeah, yeah, it's right.

681
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean one is different once more emotional ones, you know.

682
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: I want to say. You know, we have choices, right,

683
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:56,680
Everything in life is a choice, free will, right, Yeah,

684
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,279
free will and choice. And when we make a new choice,

685
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,240
it creates new outcome. Yeah, absolutely, and it can change

686
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,519
like that. That's why sometimes the future you can see

687
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:09,679
but you know, like in your head, But it's all

688
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,079
about those choices that that person still has to make

689
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:14,039
to get to it. It's probable, yes.

690
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,599
Speaker 1: It's the probability that. That's why I always tell people

691
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,519
that when they're like, well, how come I talked to

692
00:34:18,519 --> 00:34:20,320
a psychic and they got it wrong, I'm like, because

693
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,920
you have free choice, they will give you a in

694
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,960
our best estimation, if you continue to go down this path,

695
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:29,119
you're going to get the job in New York, right,

696
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,000
But you all of a sudden might you know, go

697
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:34,039
another way and all of a sudden change.

698
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:39,159
Speaker 2: I'm almost when we're talking about this, I'm almost feeling possibly.

699
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,239
I don't know, because I never really asked the universe.

700
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:45,840
Did I make these choices before I came here to

701
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,679
be a forensic medium. Well, they certainly were setting me

702
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,960
up for it, because it was a life purpose calling

703
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,039
for me, and I recognized it, you know what I mean.

704
00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:55,039
And then they set up all the key players in

705
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,320
my family, my mother, are things that happened in me, Yeah,

706
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,519
everything for this. So they were priming for that, whether

707
00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:05,760
I whether I accepted it or not was up to me,

708
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:06,800
you know what I mean?

709
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, so no, but I want to I want

710
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,119
to point something out here because you just triggered something

711
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:16,960
in me that I think is really important. You could

712
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,320
have you could have you were going to end up

713
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,559
here regardless in your life. You're going to be a

714
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:26,519
forensic medium. But they didn't place you, or you didn't

715
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:31,320
choose to be placed in a hippie commune in California

716
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,360
where all of this would have been. You would have

717
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,760
never been Catholic. You would have been raised in the

718
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,760
spiritual world. You might have had a medium for a mom,

719
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,480
you know, and a dad who was a psychic or

720
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,000
a channeler, and but that wouldn't have set you up

721
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:47,599
for what you're doing now, in the way you're doing.

722
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:50,480
And now you needed to be raised Catholic. You needed

723
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:55,519
to be raised in Boston because that environment is very

724
00:35:55,559 --> 00:36:00,320
different and prepped you for something like this. So you

725
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,320
and I mirror in this way. Yeah, I was brought up,

726
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,880
I was brought up. We both brought up Catholic. I

727
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,320
went into the film industry, spent twenty years in the

728
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,079
film industry, twenty five years in film industry. I'm thirty now,

729
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,440
but twenty five years in film industry, bumping my head,

730
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,440
making a living, doing work, all that kind of stuff,

731
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:21,000
but always angry that I had never got to another place,

732
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,000
and I was like, why are you putting me through this?

733
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,400
I kept asking, why are you putting me through this?

734
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,880
So you same thing fifteen years as a police officer

735
00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:33,920
going through all of that enjoyable, I'm sure, and you

736
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,360
had a good time. You did it for fifteen years,

737
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,400
so it was fine, but it was prepping you for

738
00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:40,360
the next stage in your life. Both of us were

739
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,360
being prepped for the next stage in your life where

740
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,400
all of a sudden you became a forensic medium. I

741
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:50,400
became a podcaster. Both insane. Both insane. Ye, you know,

742
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,280
I already ran away from the circus to become a filmmaker.

743
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,599
You were a police You were more grounded. You're a

744
00:36:56,599 --> 00:37:00,920
police officer. And then and then we became I became

745
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,719
a podcast You became a forensic medium. But then you

746
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,800
became a medium. But then the forensic aspect of it was, oh,

747
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,599
look at all the work you did in the police world,

748
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:12,400
and that makes sense. And now as a podcaster, I

749
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,400
opened up the spiritual show and now I have a

750
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,320
production company doing spiritual content for our own streaming service,

751
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:22,280
and I was like, that's why I did this. Yeah,

752
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,760
that's why. So it's a lesson for the audience listening.

753
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,320
That's like, just because you're going through something that you

754
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,679
might not understand yet, you.

755
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 2: Have to trust the universe.

756
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,679
Speaker 1: You have to trust that the universe has a plan

757
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,519
for you. Yes, or if you want to go even

758
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:40,440
more meta, you have a plan for you that you

759
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:43,039
decided that you have to go through this to get

760
00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:46,800
to the other side and to do things that you

761
00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:52,840
can't see yet. You know, when I did the when

762
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,719
I went through the toughest time in my life, and

763
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,280
I've said this so many times, I show the please

764
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,559
forgive me everybody, when I almost made a twenty million

765
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:03,559
dollar movie for the Mafia, you know, and when I

766
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:04,719
was in my twenties, I.

767
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: Worked with the Mafia before.

768
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,519
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have and as that. My my first

769
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:13,719
book is all about that experience. But that was one

770
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,599
of the most traumatic years of my life. I went

771
00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:19,639
through a whole lot of things, but without that experience

772
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,360
that I was obviously set myself up to do and

773
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:28,119
before I came here, that gave me the empathy that

774
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,000
allowed me to want to help others, and that's when

775
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,599
I started. My first podcast was about helping other filmmakers,

776
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,599
which then turned into which then was the bridge into.

777
00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 2: And I want to say, it's all about higher frequency

778
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,000
and vibration too. You know what I mean, Because you're

779
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,639
on it. It's like, you know, you manifest it at

780
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:51,320
the same time in the sense I had no idea

781
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,840
I was, even though you don't know. You know what

782
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,239
I mean. Yes, the universe is it's almost like you're

783
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,679
the chosen one. That's what it feels like, right you know.

784
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: Well, you're the chosen one in your own story. Yeah,

785
00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:05,719
you know we are, Luke, Yeah, in our own Star

786
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,719
Wars story. You know Star Wars we are proto you

787
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,320
know we are we are that those we are neo

788
00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:16,039
like we are the chosen ones of our story.

789
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: Yes.

790
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: So when I was, and same with you, when you

791
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,400
had what did you call it? I call it a mission?

792
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,480
You call it calling calling?

793
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: So you know what I'm like a mission.

794
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,039
Speaker 1: It's like a mission. A mission. Calling is interchangeable. When

795
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:31,400
you realize, oh, this is what I'm supposed to do

796
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,800
with this life, then everything changes, you know, before then

797
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,760
you're bumping around.

798
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: I want to say also, it's about letting go of

799
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,840
the ego wants a certain things. That's so important to

800
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,559
let go of the ego and trust the universe that

801
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:48,480
they'll open the doors for you and that they'll bring

802
00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:50,000
what you need to the table.

803
00:39:50,519 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. I wanted to be Spielberg. Anyone, whoever, anybody,

804
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,079
who ever, he wants to direct the film one.

805
00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: You can you can direct.

806
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:05,119
Speaker 1: They want to be the success of Steven Spielberg, you know,

807
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,440
or of those kind of that. So we all want

808
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,480
to go there, and when you don't get there as

809
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:15,679
a filmmaker, you get very frustrated. So every this is

810
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,360
the this is the plight of every single director out there,

811
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,960
even directors who are super.

812
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: You're going to get there, just in a different way, right.

813
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: That's my point, Like, you get there in a different way.

814
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:27,960
So there was opportunities that I want. My ego wanted

815
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,000
me to be a big time, big budget movie director

816
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,119
because I only saw this path, and I was following

817
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:38,239
that path for years and it didn't work out. And

818
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,159
all of a sudden, as a podcaster, it starts to

819
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:43,360
get in and now I'm starting to do other productions.

820
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,800
I'm starting to doing other things, and I'm like, they are.

821
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:49,599
Speaker 2: Giving you much bigger responsibility than what he's doing.

822
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:53,639
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

823
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,440
and now back to the show. Well, yeah, I mean

824
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:04,559
yeah to a certain extent. Absolutely, it's just but it's

825
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:06,960
fascinating you when I'm trying to this illustrate what you said,

826
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,480
the ego letting go of what you want to happen.

827
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,079
Speaker 2: That's right, Like if there's no such thing as time,

828
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,519
there's no such thing as time.

829
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:16,159
Speaker 1: Listen. I don't know about you, but when I was

830
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:18,760
growing up, I wanted to date this one person. I

831
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,880
wanted this one person to be the love of my life.

832
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,920
And then like and I wanted it so bad, right,

833
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,719
and then you fast forward a few years when that

834
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,440
didn't happen, You're like, ooh, thank god, I just dodged

835
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,119
the bullet. So if everything we if we were given

836
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:37,840
everything the ego wanted, we would be self dish, we

837
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,719
would destroy ourselves. So the union there has to be

838
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,920
a guiding something's guiding us.

839
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,519
Speaker 2: It's a need more what you need, the universe will

840
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:46,960
give you.

841
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:50,599
Speaker 1: As opposed to what you want. Because I've realized in

842
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:55,159
my few times around the planet around the universe, if

843
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:59,480
you will in this life that what I want is

844
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:01,239
not always necessarily what I need.

845
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think I learned that in pre Kana.

846
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,119
Speaker 1: I just kind of let go now, yeah, and I

847
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:09,800
just kind of and there's still things I want to happen,

848
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,679
but when they don't show up, I'm like.

849
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: You didn't need it.

850
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: Apparently it wasn't supposed to be that way, and there's

851
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,400
a better way around the corner. And that's the kind

852
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,480
of way I walk through life now. Yeah. Oh, don't

853
00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:23,840
get me wrong. If something doesn't happen exactly the way

854
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,719
I want it, sometimes I'm like son of them, especially

855
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,920
in traffic, but within certain things like man, why didn't

856
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,880
that video do better? Or why didn't that thing that

857
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,239
we tried to do do better? Or why didn't this happen?

858
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 2: And it needed to happen to make make it what

859
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,800
you want to happen? Does that make sense? So I'm

860
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,360
feeling still you're going to be big, Like Steven Spielberg.

861
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:48,039
I just feel that this is the foundation that's getting

862
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:50,239
you there, but it's going to be bigger than that,

863
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:54,880
and already it is becoming that. That's what I'm feeling.

864
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,079
That's what spirit's telling me.

865
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:57,039
Speaker 1: So I appreciate it.

866
00:42:57,119 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, So keep going with the flow because the universe

867
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,960
is providing for you because you're receiving it and there

868
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,000
and you're sending it to everyone and it's it's beautiful.

869
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: Look if if someone would have told you as a

870
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,119
teenager that you would be a forensic.

871
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:10,639
Speaker 2: Media oh my god.

872
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: And if someone had told me I'm going to a podcast, Like,

873
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,639
first of all, what the hell is a podcast? Because

874
00:43:14,679 --> 00:43:15,760
they didn't exist back then.

875
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: This is true, not at all.

876
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: Pod what Like, it's kind of like a radio show.

877
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,880
I'm like, what, but it's kind of like a TV show.

878
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:25,960
What I would It would make no sense to me.

879
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,559
But it's it's a bigger lesson for people listening that

880
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:32,719
you have to let go. And it's as cliche as

881
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,760
it is. Let go, let God, because if you let go,

882
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:41,440
things will present themselves in a much better way absolutely

883
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:46,360
then you would have imagined. And it's not always specifically pleasant.

884
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 2: Well, this is true.

885
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,079
Speaker 1: That is the key to this.

886
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: It's like a cop battery. You need the negative and

887
00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:53,559
the positive to come together to go forward. Oh I

888
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:58,519
love that, right, that's one that's so fear. Fear is

889
00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:02,719
false evidence appearing real yeah, or sailative.

890
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: You need the negative and the positive to go and

891
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:10,760
as a soul experiencing this lifetime, you need both polarities

892
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,360
absolutely and needed to move forward because without the negative,

893
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,920
you can't appreciate the positive, and without the negatives you

894
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,960
don't have the challenges.

895
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:20,039
Speaker 2: I always tell my clients, you know, I find myself

896
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:23,960
being a psychiatrist sometimes along with being a reader as well.

897
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,280
But I always tell them, you know, look for the

898
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,559
gift and look for the blessing and the negative. Don't

899
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:31,039
always look at it as a punishment. Once you look

900
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:33,119
and find the gift of the blessing in it, it'll

901
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:35,039
come back to the positive for you and you look

902
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:36,719
at it with gratitude, you know.

903
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:41,679
Speaker 1: Well, that experience with the mob, for me, I look

904
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,119
back with love, Yeah, absolute love and gratitude for that

905
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,239
experience I did in today it happened. I was two

906
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,880
years in depression afterwards.

907
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, I know how that feels.

908
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I met the biggest movie stars in the

909
00:44:53,639 --> 00:44:55,360
world that was flown out to LA I was hanging

910
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,639
out with all these big things. I was twenty six. Well,

911
00:44:57,679 --> 00:44:59,320
my life was being threatened on a daily basis by

912
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,719
cycle oh my god. So do you see what I mean? Yeah,

913
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:04,400
but I look but going back looking at it, going

914
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,960
my god, that was like, you know, I have.

915
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 2: To tell you. Sometimes a couple of time, my publicist

916
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,559
has gotten in Hollywood. I guess I'm not going to

917
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:15,840
name anybody, but two or three people wanted to do

918
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,079
my movies this and that, and they want to do stuff.

919
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:21,280
And but the problem is I said no because they

920
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,719
wanted me to unfold the exact name and the places

921
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,599
of the cases. I'm like, do you realize that these cases,

922
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:31,119
even though they're solved, they're still living.

923
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,079
Speaker 1: You can't do that. Yeah, I'm my names have to change.

924
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go. I have a family. I want to

925
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,519
live tomorrow at least, you know.

926
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: I go.

927
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 2: I can't do that. And I've had people say, oh,

928
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,519
come on and do it for the money. I'm like,

929
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:44,840
I'm not doing this for the money. For the money, yeah,

930
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,599
and I'm like, I'm not doing Someone says that everyone

931
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,440
run away. Yeah exactly. Yeah, I'm like not doing it,

932
00:45:50,559 --> 00:45:53,760
I said, I said, someday someone's if it's meant to

933
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,159
be that I'm supposed to show what I do to people,

934
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,119
it will be presented properly. You know, and I go,

935
00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:01,679
I'm not going to Oh my soul, So I go,

936
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,599
that's not what I'm doing. I'm here to help people,

937
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:06,880
you know. And it's really funny. I just recently became

938
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,599
an International Torch for Peace ambassador, so I went, yeah, right,

939
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,639
and one of my clients she was in the oh

940
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:17,000
my gosh, she's she's running it, and she did the

941
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:20,360
oh god, I'm sorry, I'm sorry the bread of the

942
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,400
right names, but she'd had another one before that. But

943
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,920
it wasn't for peace. It was for violence. Stop the violence,

944
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,119
is what it was. And so they asked me, would

945
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:30,639
you like to be ambassador. I'm like sure, and I

946
00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:33,960
got to go. I'm so excited, like something's good happened

947
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,159
for me that I got to go and to Washington,

948
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,599
d C. Last February and say a prayer for all

949
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:44,079
the world's children at the cathedral. Yeah, in front of

950
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:47,960
a thousand people. I'm like, oh, And it was really

951
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,840
awesome because I downloaded the dream from spirit you know

952
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,559
what I mean, and so I wrote it all down.

953
00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:57,639
So I'm known as their spiritual advisor, you know, because

954
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,280
if we say psychic medium, they'll be like, whooh, she's out.

955
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,480
You know, people still judge, people still criticize it because

956
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:06,159
they're so conditioned and so socialized to think if you

957
00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:08,440
don't live this way, there's something wrong with you. In

958
00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:10,440
their religions this and that, And I'm just like, oh,

959
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,559
religion is nice, but not the religious part of it.

960
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:15,480
The spiritual pot is nice about it, you know what

961
00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:15,800
I mean?

962
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: Would you would you agree with me as a Catholic,

963
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,320
as a recovering Catholic that I'm very grateful for being

964
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,400
raised Catholic. Oh, absolutely, I'm very I want people to

965
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,800
be clear about that. I was very angry at the

966
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,639
gen okay words, because of the because when you start

967
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:35,480
realizing the lies and the manipulation and the fear and all.

968
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: That stuff that's all man made.

969
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 1: The man made stuff, that was very angry with for

970
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,440
many many years. I'm not I'm not anymore, but but

971
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,559
I was very, very grateful for raising being raised Catholic

972
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:48,719
because it introduced me to the idea that there's something

973
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:49,639
bigger than myself.

974
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. This is the reason why I sent

975
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,320
my kids to parochial school. I sent them for the discipline,

976
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,800
but they needed to know there was something better than

977
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,760
who they are, bigger and betterverse, you know, than their ego.

978
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:03,559
That's the reason why I sent them.

979
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:05,519
Speaker 1: Now it is, it is, it is wrapped with a

980
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:06,280
lot of other stuff.

981
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, But it was so important to have faith

982
00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:09,840
in a higher power, you know.

983
00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:11,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

984
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:15,079
Speaker 2: And then I actually was baptized. I have to tell you.

985
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,960
My whole family was Catholic, but I wasn't, so I was.

986
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,840
So my parents divorced and so I was baptized Episcopalian.

987
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:25,280
My father brought me up in a Lutheran church with

988
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:25,800
his sister.

989
00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's right, ANDNOTI Yeah.

990
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,039
Speaker 2: And then and then when I got married, I was

991
00:48:35,079 --> 00:48:38,440
a convert to Catholicism because I wanted to be like

992
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:41,639
my family, because my whole family was Catholic, my nana,

993
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,119
my grandmother. I was brought up Catholic in my family,

994
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,719
but not in the churches. And then and then when

995
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,920
I became Catholic, my husband decided he didn't want to

996
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,400
go to church anymore. So I did that myself, being

997
00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:56,480
Catholic with the kids. Yeah right. And then I started

998
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,480
getting into the spiritualist which is because I started dabbling

999
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,239
into meeting m ship and that was nice. That's where

1000
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,639
I started teaching actually connection and but what really resonated

1001
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,559
me was Buddhism. So I was into the Buddhism and chanting,

1002
00:49:10,039 --> 00:49:13,119
numb your holding gaek yo, you know, all that Lotus Sutra.

1003
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,719
And now I'm into the Hinduism, so I'm doing all

1004
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,039
the mantras. So it's along the way again the foundation

1005
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,320
to coexist in the global community, so I can be

1006
00:49:24,639 --> 00:49:26,800
helpful to other people and stuff. That's again.

1007
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,559
Speaker 1: You know, you want to hear the first time I

1008
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:30,559
ever heard that the Buddhist.

1009
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:33,079
Speaker 2: Chant Oh yeah, I would love to hear it.

1010
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:36,119
Speaker 1: The first time I ever experienced Buddhism. And this is

1011
00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:42,599
the weirdest thing was watching the movie What's Love Got

1012
00:49:42,599 --> 00:49:43,039
to Do with It?

1013
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,679
Speaker 2: Tina Turner's movie, Oh Tina Turner.

1014
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,159
Speaker 1: Oh that that really rough, that profound movie about Tina

1015
00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:51,159
Turner's life and the whole hike in the beating and

1016
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:54,639
all the how she came out. She was chanting. Angela

1017
00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:57,079
Bassett was doing Buddhist chanting in the movie, and I

1018
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:58,519
was like what she was talking about?

1019
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: And she she does nietzchere in Buddhism. Now you're holding

1020
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:04,639
That's what I remember. Beautiful YouTube's on it.

1021
00:50:04,679 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so that was my introduction to.

1022
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:09,079
Speaker 2: Boots and Herbie Hancock too.

1023
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It's it's it's it's pretty fascinating how our

1024
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,639
like I started. I started learning about I learned before

1025
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:22,280
I got into the next level soul world. I always

1026
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,400
was curious about other religions, other philosophies, and I listened

1027
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,840
and read about everything. So I went to Buddhism, Confucism,

1028
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,599
z Oreastrism, Hinduism, and I just started exploring all of them,

1029
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:38,400
even Judaism, the Kabbala, and so I started studying as

1030
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,440
as much as I could because I was just I

1031
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,960
was just trying to figure I'm still trying to figure

1032
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,519
it out. But I'm like, oh, wait a minute, all

1033
00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:46,480
of these have all these roads are the same place.

1034
00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:49,920
That's right, They're just different flavors going to the same place.

1035
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:54,880
But we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1036
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,440
and now back to the show. One thing I love

1037
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,960
about you and and the way you present yourself is

1038
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,760
that the world needs a medium like you.

1039
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: Oh thank you. The reason, Oh my god, can I

1040
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,039
quote you? I can tell my kids see someone my

1041
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:17,079
son doesn't want anything to do with because he's still

1042
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,840
he's still unreserved. Yeah, him, I'm just joking.

1043
00:51:22,039 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: But the reason why I'm saying that is because you know,

1044
00:51:26,599 --> 00:51:29,800
a lot of times mediums and psychics you know, will

1045
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,920
come in and they will they'll.

1046
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,639
Speaker 2: Be the full They play God.

1047
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: Not not only they play God, but they played the character

1048
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:37,960
of a psychic medium.

1049
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,559
Speaker 2: They play the part I see.

1050
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: And they're you know, they're dressed the way you think

1051
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,239
a psychic media would be dressed. They speak like a

1052
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,880
psychic medium would speak traditionally.

1053
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,199
Speaker 2: The New Age movement of course. Yep.

1054
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: Now you have a slight accent.

1055
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,559
Speaker 2: You know, my kids don't have it either. They beat

1056
00:51:55,559 --> 00:51:56,039
it out of them.

1057
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:01,599
Speaker 1: Catholic skill, You have a slight Boston, and you are

1058
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,039
pretty real and grounded and thank you.

1059
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: Wow.

1060
00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:08,599
Speaker 1: But you also come from being a police officer. Yeah,

1061
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:11,360
for fifteen years in the law enforcement for fifteen years.

1062
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,039
Speaker 2: When to hear something funny, Yeah, I'll tell you something.

1063
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,320
And when I was in the police academy, I was

1064
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,320
a special State Police officer and I was one of

1065
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,800
two girls in the unit. And I have a nervous

1066
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:25,679
you know, ADHD. But I have if that's what they

1067
00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:27,800
want to call it, I just call a high strung. Anyways,

1068
00:52:28,039 --> 00:52:30,079
I have when I'm nervous, I laugh.

1069
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 1: So I'm laughing a lot, yes, and I do.

1070
00:52:34,119 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 2: I am nervous. I can't say I'm not. There's a

1071
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,639
lot of lights around me. Anyways, I'm standing there and

1072
00:52:38,679 --> 00:52:40,719
they're like, what is it, Baits? That was my mad man,

1073
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,920
What is it? Baits. I'm like, they're like, what do

1074
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,000
you say. I'm like, sir, yes, sir. I start laughing,

1075
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,159
and they're like, what's wrong with you? And I couldn't

1076
00:52:48,159 --> 00:52:51,320
stop laughing. Well, one of the d's he got so

1077
00:52:51,639 --> 00:52:54,239
angry he picked up a desk and threw it across

1078
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,159
the room. Not can you He goes, tomorrow seven o'clock

1079
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:58,880
in the morning. I had to be there and run

1080
00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:02,320
three miles I myself every day for two weeks because

1081
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,840
he was punishing me, right, yeah, for laughing. And then

1082
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:08,800
he apologized. On my graduation, he goes space, he goes,

1083
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,159
I'm going to give you a hundred. I'm like what.

1084
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,960
He goes, I'm so sorry. I didn't realize you had

1085
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,760
a nervous tick like laughing, and he did one hundred

1086
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,159
push ups for me. I'm thinking, oh, well, someone recognized it.

1087
00:53:17,199 --> 00:53:18,960
I didn't even know I added either at the time,

1088
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,480
you know, it was pretty funny.

1089
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:22,639
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the joker. You didn't stop laughing.

1090
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god. You know, I'm you know, I'm pissed

1091
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,039
if I'm silent, right right, yeah, if I'm saying nothing,

1092
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:32,639
there's something wrong. But thank you. You're so sweet.

1093
00:53:32,679 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's true because I think I think you know,

1094
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,079
one of the reasons we wanted to have you on

1095
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:38,519
the show is because of your background.

1096
00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: You because and that's the story right there.

1097
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,599
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because a lot of people need to see

1098
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:48,159
themselves in these kind of conversations, you know, because if

1099
00:53:48,199 --> 00:53:50,480
you see something, it's great to have a guru on.

1100
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,239
I've had them, they've sat in that chair, you know,

1101
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,360
and having mystics on and having quantum physicists on and

1102
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,280
having you know, doctors on and stuff. But it's really

1103
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,639
important for people to see themselves in these conversations. They're like,

1104
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,119
wait a minute, how he was Catholic? Yes, from Boston.

1105
00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:10,840
I'm from Boston. I know people from Boston. It's a

1106
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,800
more grounded conversation, and that's what we like to do here.

1107
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,280
We want to demystify this a bit more and go.

1108
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 2: Through it's everybody, and that's my mission. Everybody is able

1109
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,960
to connect everyone. There's not one person that can't if

1110
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,760
they're allowing, if they're willing to do the work. In

1111
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,599
doing the work, they have to trust their higher power,

1112
00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:34,880
their higher face, the higher consciousness, the universe, whatever that is.

1113
00:54:35,159 --> 00:54:37,280
They have to let go of the ego, you know,

1114
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,840
and have faith in their higher power and also control.

1115
00:54:43,639 --> 00:54:46,159
People don't even That's another thing I love about teaching

1116
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,320
is people don't even realize they're controlling their life, even

1117
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,639
through visions and stuff, because there's different forms of control.

1118
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,920
You know. Once they let go of the control, they

1119
00:54:55,039 --> 00:54:58,800
allowing their higher power three hundred percent to do the

1120
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,320
work for them, tricking it. All you have to do

1121
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,639
is just be. When you be, and when you allow yourself,

1122
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:07,679
allow the universe to do it. It's like that.

1123
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: But with that said, what that said, and I want

1124
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,880
people because people get confused with this sometimes, which is uh,

1125
00:55:14,199 --> 00:55:16,480
just letting the universe be, which is awesome, But you

1126
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:18,719
still have to work, right, You still have to get

1127
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:19,440
up and do it.

1128
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:20,559
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely.

1129
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 1: You have to be a participant, an active participant in

1130
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,440
your life. You just can't sit like, well, I'm gonna

1131
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:26,840
wait for Steven Spielberg.

1132
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:31,119
Speaker 2: To call me to give me that that next shot. No, No,

1133
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:34,440
You've got to keep doing your thing. Yes, but the

1134
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,199
more the more you practice, the more you see.

1135
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: In other words, don't sit and wait, you walk and

1136
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,639
wait because you're walking. And then as you're walking the

1137
00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:47,599
step you don't even know what's coming, but the universe

1138
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:49,199
starts putting you a path in front of you. But

1139
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,079
you have to get up.

1140
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 2: And walk right Like I walked here today from Florida. Well,

1141
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:00,800
it's true. I I my mother, Hello Mom, and when

1142
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,159
she told me should go on this, I'm like, okay, Mom,

1143
00:56:03,199 --> 00:56:05,280
I'll put in for it here. I am. I flew

1144
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,400
here and I did the I did it. You know,

1145
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,679
I flew by myself the Texas.

1146
00:56:09,679 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: I was scared. It's not that scared. Barbecue.

1147
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a vegetarian.

1148
00:56:17,679 --> 00:56:19,599
Speaker 1: It's true. I'm vegetarian as well.

1149
00:56:19,639 --> 00:56:22,119
Speaker 2: But they still have sauce is good.

1150
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: They have great sauces here, great sauces. So I wanted

1151
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,920
to ask you with with everything that you've been seeing, uh,

1152
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:33,800
you know, all the stories, all the things I'm assuming

1153
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,239
that you tap in for yourself.

1154
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,199
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes sometimes my friends always said, why don't you

1155
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,599
do it with everything. I'm like, because I need to

1156
00:56:41,639 --> 00:56:46,000
live life. I'm here as a human being, right and

1157
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,519
I need to have the human experience and the medium ship.

1158
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,960
In the beginning, when I first started, I was always

1159
00:56:55,039 --> 00:57:00,199
going in because I really wasn't uh my medium ship

1160
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,400
wasn't where it is now, you know. So I was

1161
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,719
practicing all the time everywhere. But that was not good

1162
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,679
because I was picking up on everything in the universe.

1163
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,480
It was exhausting, you know, and as I forget what

1164
00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:15,199
I was talking about. Sorry, And so, uh, now what

1165
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,840
I do is I make sure that I'm doing my mediumship.

1166
00:57:18,239 --> 00:57:21,480
When I'm sitting down, I make my intent to the universe,

1167
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,280
and that's when I work, you know what I mean.

1168
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:26,760
So there is a close sign, there is, yeah, but

1169
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:30,400
honestly I can I don't ever really close. It's always

1170
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,639
the like.

1171
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: So when you say mediumship, you know, I want to

1172
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,920
clarify for people, So you don't are you Are you

1173
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,960
seeing ghosts around or around you?

1174
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,159
Speaker 2: No? I'm not looking, okay, but do you I could

1175
00:57:43,159 --> 00:57:44,599
if I wanted to, So if.

1176
00:57:44,519 --> 00:57:46,559
Speaker 1: You I could go like that, if you open up

1177
00:57:46,599 --> 00:57:47,960
and you're like, okay, who's in the room right now?

1178
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see already, but because I just asked.

1179
00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:52,639
So it's always about your ask and your intent.

1180
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,599
Speaker 1: Okay, I have to ask who's hanging around?

1181
00:57:54,679 --> 00:57:55,639
Speaker 2: Do you want to see? I do?

1182
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,039
Speaker 1: I want? This is fun?

1183
00:57:57,239 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: So I there is the older woman sit on your rights,

1184
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:02,519
and she's older, she's she always wore dresses, she never

1185
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:05,079
will pants, and she's like this laugh and she's giggling.

1186
00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:07,639
She's got a pot and I don't know, like a

1187
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,239
there's a pot and you know how a spoon. She's

1188
00:58:10,239 --> 00:58:12,719
trying to feed you, and she's shown me, she's shown

1189
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,159
me pearls. And then behind you there's a man and

1190
00:58:16,199 --> 00:58:18,360
he's not very tall, maybe about five six five eight,

1191
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,480
and he's got big, thick hands, and he's older, he's

1192
00:58:21,519 --> 00:58:24,559
a gentleman, and he's got doc jet black hair. So

1193
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:27,039
I see the two of them. Yeah, I'll tell you

1194
00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:29,960
who these people are in mid making messages. I could

1195
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:30,320
go like that.

1196
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I don't want to do reading on the show.

1197
00:58:33,199 --> 00:58:34,599
I'm just just I'm just kidding.

1198
00:58:34,639 --> 00:58:36,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, so that's who I'm seeing around you

1199
00:58:36,719 --> 00:58:39,280
because I asked, because I asked.

1200
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:43,159
Speaker 1: Those are both my grandparents. Oh they literally you describe

1201
00:58:43,159 --> 00:58:44,480
them exactly and.

1202
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,639
Speaker 2: I always ask like like if I like, if I

1203
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,519
am going to do a reading, I'll sit there and

1204
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:53,719
I'll ask my guides to connect with your guides through

1205
00:58:53,719 --> 00:58:56,960
the whole intent. But I'll always ask for unique things too,

1206
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,920
so you'll understand it in a unique way. Everybody has

1207
00:59:00,039 --> 00:59:03,000
a grandmother, everybody has a grandfather, right, so you want

1208
00:59:03,039 --> 00:59:07,360
to find those unique things. Oh, we're just alike. I

1209
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,000
have the same right and even the full sale connection,

1210
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,920
but you always want to find something that's unique, you

1211
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,440
know what I mean? And so yeah, so like I

1212
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,840
have a blueprint in that too, you know, because I've

1213
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,880
acquirted over the years. When I first when I first

1214
00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:28,559
learned how to go into the mediumship world, was taught

1215
00:59:28,639 --> 00:59:33,679
by a beautiful woman and her name was Rita, and

1216
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:39,599
she was very traditional spiritualist, old school kind of like

1217
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,760
the witches and all that kind of stuff. Almost yeah wicca. Well,

1218
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,599
I wasn't into that. I was Roman Catholic.

1219
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: I was terrified Pagan.

1220
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,119
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and I was like terrified, right oh yeah yeah.

1221
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,639
But she was yell at me, like she's screaming, and

1222
00:59:54,679 --> 00:59:56,440
people like, Shila, why are you letting her yell? I'd

1223
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,880
be in tears crying, and I taught my mother up.

1224
00:59:59,159 --> 01:00:00,679
My mom loved an oak home at the time, and

1225
01:00:00,679 --> 01:00:03,119
I said, Mom, I'm not going to take that class anymore.

1226
01:00:03,199 --> 01:00:06,079
That meaningship class. I just can't do it. She's like, Sheila,

1227
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,360
you go to that class and you learn everything you

1228
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,800
can from that woman. I'm like, okay, fine. So when

1229
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,760
I started teaching at the Spiritualist Church, I made it

1230
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,320
a totally way new way of teaching, not old school,

1231
01:00:17,679 --> 01:00:23,199
more contemporary. Where everyone is is it's just different than

1232
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:26,960
where they're not crying, you know. Yeah, And and I

1233
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:28,960
know she she even told me if I'm yelling at

1234
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,199
you means I love you. I'm like, yeah, And I

1235
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,880
learned great from her. Because of her, I am what

1236
01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:37,679
I am today, you know what I mean, And I'm

1237
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:38,800
very grateful for that.

1238
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

1239
01:00:46,519 --> 01:00:47,800
and now back to the show.

1240
01:00:50,159 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I established my own way of contemporary

1241
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,599
way of teaching, and I just noticed the people growing

1242
01:00:57,039 --> 01:00:59,599
into enlightenment when they start doing it, and then they

1243
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:01,360
go off and doing their own Usually I have like

1244
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,599
I also do mentorship too, so like it's like just

1245
01:01:04,639 --> 01:01:06,719
one on one and usually a student will stay for

1246
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,280
a year or two and then they just grow into

1247
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:14,000
these beautiful, you know, souls. Yeah, and but I'll knock

1248
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:15,760
them out at the knees of the eagles in the way.

1249
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,199
I don't want them in class. I'm like, it's okay

1250
01:01:18,199 --> 01:01:20,320
to be proud of yourself, but this is not about you.

1251
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:23,639
This is about the universe channeling through you. And that's

1252
01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:26,360
the responsibility. You know what I mean, I go, you

1253
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,159
can do what you want with it, but if you're

1254
01:01:28,159 --> 01:01:30,280
going to be in my class, it's not about you.

1255
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: So the question I asked is like, so sometimes you

1256
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,119
obviously read for yourself. And I've heard from Ultima sorry

1257
01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:39,719
for multiple channel and it's fine. So multiple channelers and

1258
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:43,760
psychics and mediums say it's very difficult sometimes for them.

1259
01:01:43,679 --> 01:01:46,599
Speaker 2: To read yourselves for reading, Yes, so like to read

1260
01:01:46,639 --> 01:01:50,800
your future? Oh like yeah, I yeah, it can be

1261
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,360
hard because emotionally I'm connected, you know, I have to

1262
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:54,480
really step out of the box.

1263
01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:57,199
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's really difficult, and it's I've heard.

1264
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,639
I've heard from very dear friends of mine who are

1265
01:01:59,679 --> 01:02:01,159
channel are like, I can't.

1266
01:02:01,079 --> 01:02:05,199
Speaker 2: That's when you won't. Yeah, well I'll ask them questions

1267
01:02:05,239 --> 01:02:06,960
here and there, this, and that, but I won't sit

1268
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:10,079
down what I what I also asked, Really, this is

1269
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:13,320
like my my trademark. Show me in two different ways

1270
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,039
that I'm not thinking so I'll know. So I'll see,

1271
01:02:17,079 --> 01:02:19,800
Like when I'm doing forensics, I'll see a flash of

1272
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,840
something that I'm not thinking subconsciously, I'm like, oh, and

1273
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,639
then I have to interpret it and then show me

1274
01:02:25,679 --> 01:02:28,599
something else I'm not thinking. Oh, so then you see

1275
01:02:28,639 --> 01:02:30,760
what I'm saying. So that's that's my trick to doing

1276
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:31,880
it for myself.

1277
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,639
Speaker 1: I want to dig into something here because this is

1278
01:02:34,679 --> 01:02:37,719
I feel, this is something that I have questions about. Okay,

1279
01:02:38,119 --> 01:02:40,920
and I and I think there's a mystery around mediumship

1280
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:45,440
and being a psychic and being a medium channeling is

1281
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,280
a little different. But just let's let's stick with psychic mediumship.

1282
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,760
When a lot of people think that there's a voice,

1283
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,719
and there can be a voice telling you things in your

1284
01:02:55,079 --> 01:02:57,679
you could audibly hear it or you could hear it

1285
01:02:57,719 --> 01:03:01,519
in your mind. There's depending on there's multiple claims the clayers,

1286
01:03:01,519 --> 01:03:04,679
there's multiple players. You can smell, there's a multiple different

1287
01:03:04,679 --> 01:03:09,000
ways you can get information. But where people I think

1288
01:03:09,079 --> 01:03:12,519
people don't even know that they're doing it because they've

1289
01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:16,360
never been explained that this is that. So dreams is

1290
01:03:16,719 --> 01:03:19,440
base level I think. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Okay,

1291
01:03:19,559 --> 01:03:22,719
we all dream, and a lot of us have our

1292
01:03:22,719 --> 01:03:25,360
grandparents show up in our dreams, or loved one show

1293
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,480
up in our dreams, or we get messages in our dreams.

1294
01:03:28,039 --> 01:03:30,559
So that's step one. That's layer one, because we are

1295
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,119
naturally gone, we leave our bodies at night.

1296
01:03:34,239 --> 01:03:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're already doing it.

1297
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: But when when someone sits down in a meditation, And

1298
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,400
this has happened to me so often, and the more

1299
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,920
I talk to psychic mediums, the more I do these conversations,

1300
01:03:43,239 --> 01:03:46,239
I'm starting to realize that I get stuff that comes in.

1301
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,119
Meditators have been telling me this for years. They don't

1302
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:52,440
have to be a psychic medium, but they'll get something

1303
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,920
called a download or information that comes in, or an

1304
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,519
image that pops up. And this is where the ego

1305
01:03:59,559 --> 01:04:02,800
pops in. And that says, oh, you just made that up.

1306
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,480
But sometimes things are popping in. I'm like, I didn't

1307
01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:08,159
think of that. I would have never thought of that.

1308
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 2: This is what I teach in my classes. Yeah, so

1309
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,960
the whole key to understanding the connection. Yes, you have

1310
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:17,119
your all your class ces and what I tell everybody

1311
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:19,679
in class is that we do everything naturally. I don't

1312
01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:23,360
even use definitions because it's a clear feeling, clear smell,

1313
01:04:23,519 --> 01:04:26,360
whatever it may be. Getting to know your universe inside you,

1314
01:04:26,679 --> 01:04:28,840
I call it your inner light system, you know. And

1315
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,280
so like if you go if you go into meditation

1316
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,519
and you start seeing things, of course, what we need

1317
01:04:35,559 --> 01:04:39,599
to do, and even when we're using psychic mediumship as well,

1318
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,679
we have to realize did we think it subconsciously or

1319
01:04:43,719 --> 01:04:46,880
did our minds think it? Or what would spirit show

1320
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,159
it to us? You know? And again that's where you

1321
01:04:50,199 --> 01:04:53,320
have to be truly honest with yourself and come from

1322
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,079
a place of trust within yourself and the universe to

1323
01:04:56,159 --> 01:04:59,039
know did you think that subconsciously earlier in the day,

1324
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,559
Are you create that or are you thinking that? And

1325
01:05:01,559 --> 01:05:05,400
that's what I teach in my classes to recognize when

1326
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,760
that's happening, you know. And also interpretation can be very

1327
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,480
tricky too, you know. I always tell everyon when when

1328
01:05:12,519 --> 01:05:15,519
you see something, if you weren't subconsciously thinking what was

1329
01:05:15,559 --> 01:05:18,000
the first feeling you had, that's always what it is

1330
01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:22,840
because your mind will start creating as well too. You know,

1331
01:05:23,239 --> 01:05:26,360
of course, yeah, and so yes, you are receiving stuff.

1332
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,360
So how you know is again, if you're a medium,

1333
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,719
then you go, okay, I saw this. Okay, so you're

1334
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,239
communicating through mediumship. So I'll have to tell you. So

1335
01:05:35,639 --> 01:05:38,840
when I first started, I didn't like the word psychical mediumship.

1336
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,280
Matter of fact, I hate it and I still don't

1337
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:45,199
really care for it very much. Now, yeah, I'm an intuitive. Yeah, yes,

1338
01:05:46,039 --> 01:05:50,159
I'm connecting right, And so I had a high I

1339
01:05:50,239 --> 01:05:52,440
struggled with that, you know, and I don't know why

1340
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:53,639
I'm telling you that I forget when I was starting.

1341
01:05:53,679 --> 01:05:57,559
Oh yeah, so when we start connecting, I'm trying to

1342
01:05:57,559 --> 01:06:01,000
think where was I going with this? Oh yeah yeah.

1343
01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:04,719
So when we're in mediumship, we have to ask ourselves

1344
01:06:04,719 --> 01:06:07,639
again the two questions show me something I'm not thinking.

1345
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:08,199
Speaker 1: You know.

1346
01:06:08,599 --> 01:06:10,119
Speaker 2: What I'll do is like say you're in a deep

1347
01:06:10,159 --> 01:06:14,679
meditation and guaranteed you're going to see something. Because what

1348
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,840
is the first thing what I do when I teach

1349
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,800
people is we do meditation because it connects you to

1350
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,000
your inner light system and it allows spirit to come in. Right,

1351
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,239
that was the first experience I had with stuff coming in.

1352
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,360
And then what happens later on. Is I teach you

1353
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,760
how to call it in all the time, you know.

1354
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,039
So what we want to do is we get into

1355
01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:39,039
that space. And before I get into that space of meditation,

1356
01:06:39,199 --> 01:06:44,440
sometimes what I'll do is I'll say, okay, Spirit, show

1357
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,159
me something today that I need to know that I'm

1358
01:06:46,199 --> 01:06:49,199
not thinking, and then I close my eyes. I get

1359
01:06:49,199 --> 01:06:51,559
into the river where I like to be, and I'll

1360
01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:54,199
just sit back and I'll say, Okay, show me something

1361
01:06:54,199 --> 01:06:57,079
I'm not thinking, and then boom, I'll see something. I'll say, oh,

1362
01:06:57,119 --> 01:06:59,039
I think I was seeing that. Subconsciously, show me something else,

1363
01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:01,800
because sometimes it's high is it back and get relaxing up?

1364
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: Not easy?

1365
01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 2: No, And sometimes it is about a focus too. So

1366
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,119
like for me, if someone's guiding me, like say you're

1367
01:07:11,159 --> 01:07:14,199
giving the meditation, it's a little easier because I don't

1368
01:07:14,239 --> 01:07:16,599
know what's coming next. Do you see what I'm saying,

1369
01:07:16,639 --> 01:07:18,840
So it's a little easier for me not to think.

1370
01:07:19,199 --> 01:07:22,960
So thinking is the problem. So the first thing you

1371
01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:25,880
learn when you're in my classes, or you should learn anyways,

1372
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,599
is not to think anymore. Matter of fact, when we're

1373
01:07:28,599 --> 01:07:31,400
in classes, I tell my students don't use the word think.

1374
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,440
Anymore because if you tell me you thought this, that

1375
01:07:33,519 --> 01:07:35,760
guess what that means you were subconsciously thinking it.

1376
01:07:36,679 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: Right.

1377
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,679
Speaker 2: So that's the first thing you learn is not to

1378
01:07:39,719 --> 01:07:43,320
think anymore, just allowing to be be the observer. Once

1379
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,719
you're the observer, the spirit, spirit meaning the universe will

1380
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,840
just channel through you. You know, we'll just give you

1381
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,760
every download, what you call it, whatever you need.

1382
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: Well, and I've spoken to some of the greatest screenwriters

1383
01:07:56,639 --> 01:07:59,920
in the world, and I always ask that when I

1384
01:08:00,039 --> 01:08:02,239
when my old show we talk to Oscar winners and things,

1385
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,679
and I go, when you were writing, have you ever

1386
01:08:04,719 --> 01:08:07,760
experienced something when you start to write and then you

1387
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:09,800
are just writing, and then afterwards you read it and

1388
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,800
you're like, wow, that's great. Who wrote that? Yeah?

1389
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:13,119
Speaker 2: Automatic writing.

1390
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like automative. It's in every every

1391
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single great writer I've spoken to, Yeah, said the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, And you know, Leonardo da Vinci, everybody, they

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01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,199
were all channelers. They were channeling spirit, whether they knew

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it or not. You know, they were getting their inventions

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that were they're getting in dreams they get they're being

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01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,199
divinely inspired. I have this one client of mine who's

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likely Leonardo. I call Leonardo. He's got all these inventions

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and stuff, and he's on my concierge or whatever, and

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he calls me and says, Okay, Sheila, I got this

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01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,119
from spirit. What are you getting? He's still he's using

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spirit spirits downloading with him.

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Speaker 1: You know here. You want to hear a quick story.

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When I started this, and this is an example, this

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is the first time I kind of felt what we're

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01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,359
talking about. Yeah, I was in I'd have been mettating

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for many years, but then I was given this task

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to start Next level Soul by my teacher, my spiritual

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01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:09,199
teacher I've known since I was twenty three, Connie. She's

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been on the show multiple times. She has a spitfire.

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She's ninety two now. And I was so dismissive of

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this whole idea of next level Soul. I was like, insane,

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Why would anyone listen to me? I'm not a psychic,

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I'm not a near death experiencer. So I was very dismissive.

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But I was going to do it because I just

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like I have to because she told me to, and

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if I don't, thinks are not going to work out well.

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So I went into meditation. Before that, I said, okay God,

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and literally this is literally the way I did it. Ye,

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01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:40,840
okay God. So you want me to start this spiritual podcast?

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01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,159
All right, great, if you want me to do this.

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01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:47,399
I need a name for this company that I have

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01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,520
the URL that no one's ever used before that is

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not even close to anything else in the spiritual space.

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Good luck, because everything has been abused to death in

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01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,800
the spiritual space, companies and names for products and things,

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So good luck. I challenge you to give me something.

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01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,359
And I go into my meditations, and towards the end

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01:10:05,399 --> 01:10:07,600
of my meditation, three words pop in my head. Next

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01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,520
level soul. We'll be right back after a word from

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01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:20,319
our sponsor, and now back to the show. Wow, and

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that's definitely not me.

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01:10:21,399 --> 01:10:24,079
Speaker 2: I's not you and I that happened to me the

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01:10:24,119 --> 01:10:26,000
first time that happened to me, because I could say

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01:10:26,039 --> 01:10:28,960
it happens a couple of times since then. But I

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01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,880
know exactly what you mean. It's amazing, it's like, oh

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my God.

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Speaker 1: And then I got out of meditation. I looked it up.

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I'm like, son of a bit to the r L

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01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,920
is available, the trademark's available. I'm like, I guess I'm

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01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,000
calling you next level so and I liked. I was like, oh,

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,199
this is a nice perfect and I haven't I didn't

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01:10:44,279 --> 01:10:46,520
know how perfect that name was until now.

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01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, see how it unfolded.

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01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,079
Speaker 1: It's unfolding now. Everyone was like, that's such a grand Mike.

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01:10:51,159 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: And you listened and you felt it and you would Yeah.

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01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: I moved on a quick but it was that was

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01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,119
the first kind of download that I can that was

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01:10:59,199 --> 01:10:59,800
very visceral.

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01:11:00,279 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: That was like, you got it, I can hold on

1450
01:11:03,119 --> 01:11:05,880
and you're still and you're holding onto it for life now, Yeah,

1451
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,279
exactly exactly.

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01:11:07,359 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: You know, people are always like, are you ever going

1453
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,920
to sell this? I'm like, I have to tell you

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01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:14,079
what I'm doing, why I'm doing it.

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01:11:14,199 --> 01:11:16,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's for the greater of the globe.

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01:11:16,359 --> 01:11:18,239
Speaker 1: It'sout and beyond. It's not about money.

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01:11:18,359 --> 01:11:21,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the reason what I do for me

1458
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:24,079
as well. People say, oh, you could do a gallery

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01:11:24,119 --> 01:11:27,000
and make ten thousand dollars. I'm living. Okay, you know,

1460
01:11:27,079 --> 01:11:29,079
if I can, that's great, but it's okay if I

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01:11:29,159 --> 01:11:31,640
just do this because or whatever I'm doing at the time,

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01:11:32,079 --> 01:11:34,239
that's not as much whatever I go because I'm here

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01:11:34,279 --> 01:11:36,199
to help the people I'm here to help them connect.

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01:11:36,199 --> 01:11:38,920
I'm here to help them to become who they already

1465
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:43,000
already are. You know, this is this journey of light

1466
01:11:43,159 --> 01:11:47,359
of basically, this is our, our journey of the human experience,

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01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:51,359
our light inside us, you know, So why not teach

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01:11:51,399 --> 01:11:53,960
people how to Well, oh, well they're homeless that this

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01:11:54,039 --> 01:11:56,399
is the so what There's still beings of light too,

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you know what I mean, It doesn't matter everyone, you know.

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01:11:59,279 --> 01:12:00,960
And then I always get the question, well, how come

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about what about the bad people?

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01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:03,199
Speaker 1: You know?

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01:12:03,239 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 2: And what about the bad people all the crimes? And

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01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,479
I said, well, you know, people have choice. They can

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01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,600
walk in the light, they can walk in the darkness,

1477
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you know what I mean, It's all about choice as

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01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,000
well as beings. Why does that happen? I don't know.

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01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,279
Speaker 1: You know, I'll tell you what. When I was growing up,

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01:12:19,039 --> 01:12:23,079
there were moments where I could have I could have

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01:12:23,119 --> 01:12:27,600
gone the other way, right because of my skills and abilities, Yeah,

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01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:29,119
I could.

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01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,039
Speaker 2: Have where's my pocket book?

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01:12:31,359 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: No, I was never but I was never like that.

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01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,439
I never robbed anybody anything like that. But I could

1486
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,439
have gone the other way. And my wife always said,

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01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,520
she's like, wow, you you you had the we all

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01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,039
have the capacity. Every one of us has the capacity

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01:12:44,079 --> 01:12:47,600
to be the quote unquote good version of ourselves or

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01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,399
the negative version or bad versions of ourselves. All of

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01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,319
us have the ability, all of us. You know, Fidel

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01:12:53,399 --> 01:12:55,800
Castro before he took over a Cuba want to be

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01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,560
a baseball player. If the Yankees would have would have

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01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,840
gotten in, I might have not been born.

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01:13:03,319 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 2: Oh I'll see everything.

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01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean because if then my parents they would

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01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,800
have never they would have never met because they met

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in the States and all this stuff and all of that.

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So he if he would have been drafted, I'm not

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01:13:18,079 --> 01:13:21,760
sure what would have happened. If a different path, if

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01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:26,960
Hitler would have been taken seriously as an artist, he

1502
01:13:27,039 --> 01:13:29,520
might have not done what he did. You know, there

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01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,199
are different everyone's got a different road. And my wife

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01:13:33,199 --> 01:13:36,159
told me one day, She's like, you just have a

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01:13:36,199 --> 01:13:39,920
good heart. You're not capable of going down that road.

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01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,359
Even though you might have the ability to which we

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01:13:43,399 --> 01:13:46,359
all do, you just don't have the you don't have

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01:13:46,399 --> 01:13:46,680
the heart.

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01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 2: And it's true, I don't think right.

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01:13:50,359 --> 01:13:52,079
Speaker 1: But that, But I just didn't have the heart to

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01:13:52,319 --> 01:13:55,039
or I didn't have the circumstances in my life to

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01:13:55,159 --> 01:13:57,960
drive me that way, whether that be environment, whether that

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01:13:58,039 --> 01:14:01,920
be the programming, whether that be wrong.

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01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: It's really interesting that you say about love, because honestly,

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01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,680
the more I do this, everything is just about the

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01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,520
vibration and frequency of love. It's the connection of love,

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01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,800
and love comes in different forms too, you know what

1518
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,039
I mean. But that is the highest vibration. And I

1519
01:14:18,079 --> 01:14:20,920
think when I first started doing all this intuitive work,

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01:14:22,319 --> 01:14:25,560
I had hard life. My life was not easy, you know.

1521
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,640
I was an abusive relationships. Yes, I was a police officer,

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01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,319
but I became a rape investigator investigtor. I had a hard,

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01:14:33,079 --> 01:14:36,760
hard life. I was abused, I was abdusted. Yeah, oh yeah,

1524
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,079
I had some serious bad stuff happened to me. And

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01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:45,880
it's okay. I'm okay. And but at that time, it's

1526
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:50,159
really funny that I use everything in those times for

1527
01:14:50,279 --> 01:14:53,600
my cases. Now, like I understand the mindset of someone

1528
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,840
who's abused. I understand it because I lived it. Yeah.

1529
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,640
But when I so I started the mediumship, I it

1530
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:04,039
was an adrenaline rush for me. I'm like, wow, this

1531
01:15:04,199 --> 01:15:08,119
is pure love. The because you know the deep meditations,

1532
01:15:08,119 --> 01:15:10,560
it's the same thing. It's all another dimension, it's all

1533
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,680
it's all dimensional it's all energy and that feeling of

1534
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,600
complete love. It changes your life life. It's like love,

1535
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,079
we know it here, but it's it's nothing like it.

1536
01:15:21,119 --> 01:15:24,640
So I was what they call an adrenaline energy junkie.

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01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,439
Ah where That's where I was finding my piece because

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it was almost like going there instead of living.

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01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: This heart intoxicating.

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01:15:32,039 --> 01:15:35,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's an adrenaline I love it still, you know.

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01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: For someone watching that's gone through trauma in their lives, Yeah,

1542
01:15:40,239 --> 01:15:43,279
I think what you've said is very very interesting because

1543
01:15:43,319 --> 01:15:47,000
you've gone through you when you were doing the work

1544
01:15:47,079 --> 01:15:49,840
trying to help others, you can empathize with them because

1545
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,000
you went through it. Yeah, and in this life you

1546
01:15:52,039 --> 01:15:53,319
needed to go through that.

1547
01:15:53,319 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking. I'm like, well, thank god

1548
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,720
I came out alive and I'm able to help right. Yeah.

1549
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: But there's others who do the same work that didn't

1550
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:01,520
have to go through that path. Maybe they did in

1551
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,720
another life and they're bringing that in with them, but

1552
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,199
in this life, you needed to go through that.

1553
01:16:05,319 --> 01:16:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's funny. I'm sorry I mean to interrupt you,

1554
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,720
but it's funny because people have said to me, well,

1555
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,800
did you choose to be forensics because you had that trauma. No,

1556
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,760
you didn't want to first? Are you kidding me? Why

1557
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,840
would I choose everyone to not like me and not

1558
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,279
want to be part of my life and think I'm

1559
01:16:20,319 --> 01:16:23,960
a freak. Why the hell would I choose that?

1560
01:16:24,079 --> 01:16:24,319
Speaker 1: You know?

1561
01:16:24,399 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 2: But I knew in my heart that I needed to

1562
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:29,520
and I, you know, i'd rather And I was in

1563
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,640
a mill, you know, at the time, and you know

1564
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,800
what is that groupon, you know? Groupon And I put

1565
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,319
a group on and I got all these hits and

1566
01:16:36,399 --> 01:16:38,560
I told my I had people come in, they would

1567
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,840
be sitting on the couch for hours. I'd be spra booked.

1568
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:41,680
It was.

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01:16:41,319 --> 01:16:44,520
Speaker 1: It was exhausted readings. Yeah, I was.

1570
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,119
Speaker 2: I could have gone out of I could have gone

1571
01:16:46,119 --> 01:16:47,359
out of business in one day.

1572
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:48,199
Speaker 1: I mean it was bad.

1573
01:16:48,279 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know how that works. But my

1574
01:16:50,079 --> 01:16:51,840
linlod like, what the hell is going on in there?

1575
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,399
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I said, like I've seen a ghosts

1576
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,079
like all those people want yeah.

1577
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I said to him, I said right, And

1578
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,439
I was like, wow, I go obviously it doesn't matter anymore.

1579
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,119
That had to happen to me, that flooding of that

1580
01:17:08,239 --> 01:17:12,359
because I realized how much I was helping people.

1581
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,359
Speaker 1: I love, I just love. I wish I would have

1582
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:20,159
seen the ad on the group like fifty psychic reading,

1583
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,199
you know, and people people are like.

1584
01:17:23,119 --> 01:17:26,239
Speaker 2: What Max me, I'm always giving a discount. My publicists

1585
01:17:26,239 --> 01:17:28,279
don't do that. I'm like, I want to help the

1586
01:17:28,319 --> 01:17:29,880
people that need to be helped to you know what

1587
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,960
I mean, not everybody can afford.

1588
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:37,239
Speaker 1: What I find fascinating about you is again your background,

1589
01:17:37,359 --> 01:17:41,520
where you came from, and the courage it took to

1590
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,720
break free from that programming.

1591
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 2: I keep hearing that song in my hand. I want

1592
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,880
to break free. I think, is that queen or something?

1593
01:17:50,119 --> 01:17:50,640
It is.

1594
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 1: Exactly but you. You were you had the courage to

1595
01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:04,239
kind of step out of the crowd some really, I mean,

1596
01:18:05,119 --> 01:18:06,760
I mean I have. I've been to Boston a few

1597
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:11,560
times and I've seen a lot of Boston movies, so

1598
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,079
I know it's a very tight knit, very tough, very

1599
01:18:15,119 --> 01:18:19,520
hard and there's no WO that's there is no WO

1600
01:18:20,079 --> 01:18:25,960
that it's It's it's Boston. It's no WU whatsoever. I

1601
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,680
know you're saying this is the way I said Boston.

1602
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:28,359
Speaker 2: He's in New York.

1603
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get some coolffee and I we're gonna go

1604
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:36,239
through the I'm gonna go through the door coffee. So

1605
01:18:37,399 --> 01:18:41,319
but you decided to not only you know obviously it

1606
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:46,960
broke your relationship apart, your marriage apart. You put people away,

1607
01:18:47,199 --> 01:18:49,720
like you pushed people away and I pushed people pulled

1608
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,520
away from you because you're just so It took. It

1609
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:57,760
takes a tremendous amount, as my people say, to do that.

1610
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,359
And I have to applaud you for really just listening

1611
01:19:01,359 --> 01:19:04,159
to your inner voice and saying you have to do this,

1612
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,199
because there's so many people listening right now who are

1613
01:19:07,199 --> 01:19:07,720
on the fence.

1614
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah they didn't underhead.

1615
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: And whatever thing. Yeah, it doesn't have to be psychonic medium.

1616
01:19:12,399 --> 01:19:14,680
It could be starting a business. It could be just

1617
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:20,600
going against the group, which is probably the greatest fear

1618
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:26,000
a human has, because if you're ousted on an evolutionary standpoint,

1619
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,279
if you're ousted from the tribe, you die because you

1620
01:19:29,359 --> 01:19:32,680
need the tribe to survive. That's we're wired that way.

1621
01:19:33,039 --> 01:19:36,760
That's why public speaking is where it's number one, right

1622
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:38,960
behind death. People are afraid of.

1623
01:19:39,399 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 2: It's true.

1624
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,319
Speaker 1: Public speaking is the biggest fear in humanity and then

1625
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,920
comes down that's true for the most part because you're

1626
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:52,399
afraid of being ostracized from the tribe, right, and that

1627
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,760
was and you were ostracized from your.

1628
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 2: Tribe, and it was not easy, and I just had

1629
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:01,880
to look forward. And I also knew in my heart

1630
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:08,000
I had strong faith that got me through everything, like but.

1631
01:20:08,039 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: Not true, not the faith you grew up with, different

1632
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,199
version of that or both well, no both.

1633
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,359
Speaker 2: So when I when I was in those bad relationships,

1634
01:20:15,399 --> 01:20:18,479
when I was, Saint Michael got me through that. Sure,

1635
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:20,560
you know what I mean, And I would and I would,

1636
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,000
you know, you know how you get down cry me,

1637
01:20:23,239 --> 01:20:23,920
you know, crying?

1638
01:20:24,119 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: Uh what am I going to do?

1639
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 2: You know, Saint Michael helped me through that, you know,

1640
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:32,560
and so the Saints. So my I always had a

1641
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:36,880
strong faith in God, the universe, whatever it was that

1642
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,680
was guiding me and leading me. I knew that that

1643
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,960
higher consciousness may be the self consciousness, whatever it is

1644
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:44,319
is got my back.

1645
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,520
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1646
01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:53,399
and now back to the show.

1647
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: And because of the way I was, I had things

1648
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,359
happen to me throughout my young life all the way,

1649
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,680
you know, in my twenties. I always had that and

1650
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,880
I always had signs, you know what I mean, so

1651
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,840
that's I look at it this way. When I made

1652
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,079
that transition, I said, well, you know what, I need

1653
01:21:12,119 --> 01:21:14,800
to do this because shame on me people can connect.

1654
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,800
Shame on me for not teaching people connect when I can.

1655
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,560
And not only that, I knew I could help people,

1656
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,439
and shame on me for not trying not helping people

1657
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,279
as well. But I knew that I was being guided

1658
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,800
and like I through my faith, you know, like I

1659
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,960
knew that my faith had my back, you know.

1660
01:21:34,039 --> 01:21:36,279
Speaker 1: And that is I want to really spotlight what you

1661
01:21:36,319 --> 01:21:40,800
just said because it's so important. Your mindset determined, the

1662
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,000
path that you walked. Your mindset is the universe has

1663
01:21:44,039 --> 01:21:49,439
my back. Yeah, I'm being guided. I'm being protected regardless

1664
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,000
of what's in front of me. Right, So even if

1665
01:21:52,039 --> 01:21:55,359
I'm going through something difficult, there's a reason for it.

1666
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,840
I might not like it right now, that's right, but

1667
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,880
you will appreciate it, right And you know, it's not

1668
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,920
a hunky doy for me all the time. It's not

1669
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,560
hunky doory for anybody all the time. Right. Yeah, But

1670
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,279
if you come with the mindset like this is for

1671
01:22:09,319 --> 01:22:14,279
a reason, Yeah, I have to go through this. I

1672
01:22:14,279 --> 01:22:17,119
don't know why I'm going through this, but I understand

1673
01:22:17,119 --> 01:22:19,079
that this is something I have to go through and

1674
01:22:19,119 --> 01:22:23,279
that the universe has my best intentions in mind. Yeah,

1675
01:22:23,319 --> 01:22:25,680
and that mindset will change your life.

1676
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. You got to have faith one hundred percent and

1677
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:31,359
whatever that you believe in the universe, God, Ala, whoever

1678
01:22:31,399 --> 01:22:33,560
it is, whatever it is, your heart gogeous, because that's

1679
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,720
part of connecting, you know, letting go and letting God

1680
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,560
in a sense, letting go and letting I use I

1681
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,439
don't try to use God for everyone. I say the universe,

1682
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:47,800
you know, letting go. Ye, yeah, so I say letting

1683
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,560
go and let letting universe, letting the universe, you know,

1684
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,720
your higher consciousness. That's part and I have those a

1685
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,920
part of the keys to connecting to your inner light system.

1686
01:22:57,079 --> 01:22:59,880
Your inner light system is the energy around you, the chakras,

1687
01:23:00,279 --> 01:23:04,159
the energy within you without around you everywhere.

1688
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 1: So what a Thanksgiving? Like what I have to find out? Like, oh,

1689
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:11,760
Sheila is coming.

1690
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's really funny. They all came to me my

1691
01:23:15,039 --> 01:23:16,720
family because I was the only girl in the family

1692
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:20,199
because traditional Portuguese, you know, and so everyone would come

1693
01:23:20,239 --> 01:23:24,920
to me. And he's Boston yeah right, yeah, and half Italian,

1694
01:23:25,079 --> 01:23:27,399
half Italian Portuguese. That's the high drunk comes in. I'm

1695
01:23:27,399 --> 01:23:29,119
like in the.

1696
01:23:29,079 --> 01:23:31,319
Speaker 1: Hands, yeah right, that's why.

1697
01:23:31,239 --> 01:23:33,039
Speaker 2: I'm robbing a rock right now. I'm like trying to

1698
01:23:33,039 --> 01:23:34,119
control my hands.

1699
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 1: So real quick, before you continue that story about Thanksgiving,

1700
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,199
you have a rock in your hand. I do so

1701
01:23:38,239 --> 01:23:40,119
I want people to because someone's going to say something

1702
01:23:40,119 --> 01:23:40,560
about it in.

1703
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,119
Speaker 2: The concost because I'm hitting it, rubbing it.

1704
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,279
Speaker 1: Sometimes you leave it on the table. So can you

1705
01:23:44,319 --> 01:23:46,640
tell the story of what that was if people understand

1706
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:47,399
all that rock? Yeah?

1707
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh so today today what we did, Yeah, I

1708
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,680
was looking for a rock I need everywhere I go.

1709
01:23:54,199 --> 01:23:56,279
I always get a rock and I use it for

1710
01:23:56,399 --> 01:23:59,520
grounding and it's almost like my nervous rock or I

1711
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:00,119
don't know it.

1712
01:24:01,039 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: It's a fidget spinner, yeah yeah, fidget spinner yeah yeah.

1713
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,359
Speaker 2: And so I always have a rock everywhere I go,

1714
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:11,640
wherever I visit because it's energy. It grounds me. And

1715
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,439
so today I came and I said, Alex, I need

1716
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,079
a rock. He's like what, And I'm like, oh, let's

1717
01:24:16,079 --> 01:24:18,239
go outside. I'm like, you picked the rock and he's

1718
01:24:18,279 --> 01:24:19,399
giving me like a brick.

1719
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: No, I gave me like plaster, Like no, no.

1720
01:24:22,359 --> 01:24:24,079
Speaker 2: That's not that's not it. It has to be a

1721
01:24:24,119 --> 01:24:25,399
rock from you. It has to be real. So he

1722
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,840
found this rock and so I've been rubbing it. It's

1723
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,760
not dirty anymore, probably my hand's but it helps me

1724
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:36,279
to ground me. And also it's I always will have

1725
01:24:36,359 --> 01:24:39,119
this rock, you know, from my experience with you as well.

1726
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,319
And yeah, so that's my thing. In my studio, I

1727
01:24:42,399 --> 01:24:44,880
have a big basket of rocks that my students will

1728
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,800
go and get all over the world. They bring them

1729
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,439
to me. Oh, you can use this for your eatings

1730
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,479
because I always have a rock in my hand. And yeah,

1731
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,439
and when I travel, instead of buying things, I always

1732
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,000
ask the universe for a rock. Matter of fact, when

1733
01:24:57,039 --> 01:25:00,000
I actually had a studio and bought a Medway mass

1734
01:25:00,119 --> 01:25:04,239
but I recently relocated and I had a meditation studio

1735
01:25:04,279 --> 01:25:08,079
there for twelve years, and I had this big chest

1736
01:25:08,119 --> 01:25:11,399
of rocks and crystals, and I was crying. I didn't

1737
01:25:11,399 --> 01:25:12,920
want my rocks to go. I'm like, okay, I know

1738
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,079
that sounds weird, but I had such memory with them,

1739
01:25:15,079 --> 01:25:17,359
you know, And so what I did was is I

1740
01:25:17,399 --> 01:25:20,720
asked the universe to bless each rock. And my meal

1741
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,560
was right next to a river and a small little river,

1742
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,560
Craik Creek, what do you want to call it? And

1743
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,079
I blessed, asked the universe to bless every rock and

1744
01:25:28,079 --> 01:25:30,279
crystal and I was there for an hour throwing them all.

1745
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,800
They're all in that river now my landlord knows, but

1746
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,840
there's nice crystals in there, and I mean the people

1747
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,600
might go dive in, but they're all in that little

1748
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,279
river a chicken brook. Yeah that's so yeah.

1749
01:25:40,199 --> 01:25:42,199
Speaker 1: Sorry, so back. So I just wanted to clarify that

1750
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,119
because people are like, why is this woman holding onto

1751
01:25:45,119 --> 01:25:45,520
a rock?

1752
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 2: You always see me doing that and I'll have it

1753
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,199
in my pocket or something, you know.

1754
01:25:49,279 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: All right, so Thanksgiving, so they come to you.

1755
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so my parents usually come to me, but

1756
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:57,000
we never and the whole family, we would never ever

1757
01:25:57,039 --> 01:25:59,560
talk about medium ship. No one would ever bring up

1758
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,399
that I was like and what I did because they

1759
01:26:01,399 --> 01:26:03,680
were still living that human life that I'm the daughter

1760
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:05,680
and they are all lives that were important. But we

1761
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,359
never brought up anything that I would do.

1762
01:26:09,199 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: So it's like just not spoken about.

1763
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 2: It's just not spoken about. Yeah, but but if I

1764
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,840
have like like say I'm coming here or I'm going

1765
01:26:18,199 --> 01:26:20,439
not my mother, my that's my dad's side, you know

1766
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:24,479
all that, you know, but pretty chill. Yeah, she's a hippie,

1767
01:26:25,119 --> 01:26:27,680
but she doesn't can't connect, you know what I mean.

1768
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,439
But she tries and she she does meditations, but she's

1769
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:33,560
not you know, she's you know, she's my mom. But

1770
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:34,920
I don't know. I know she's gonna watch this, so

1771
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:35,439
I have to behave.

1772
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 1: She's also the one that told you to do.

1773
01:26:38,199 --> 01:26:42,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's my guy. She's my guy. Yeah she did. Yeah,

1774
01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:44,479
she's I said, Oh, what's what's a good show for

1775
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,159
me to go and go on? Next level? He's the best.

1776
01:26:46,279 --> 01:26:48,399
I'm like, okay, and just for ships and giggles, I

1777
01:26:48,399 --> 01:26:49,560
put in for it and there I am.

1778
01:26:51,359 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it does work.

1779
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like okay, yeah and yeah so yeah. So

1780
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:57,960
I they're.

1781
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,119
Speaker 1: Still like if it's not, they're in denial if you

1782
01:27:00,159 --> 01:27:00,920
will or they just don't.

1783
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 2: I think they've accepted it more now, like my brother

1784
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,319
has and people have, and they've grown too because they've

1785
01:27:06,319 --> 01:27:08,239
had no choice, but too, I.

1786
01:27:08,239 --> 01:27:11,119
Speaker 1: Have to imagine as people. This is when I find

1787
01:27:11,159 --> 01:27:16,119
people are really open to mediumship. When someone dies or

1788
01:27:16,119 --> 01:27:17,000
when someone's dying.

1789
01:27:17,359 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I was on this radio show a

1790
01:27:20,039 --> 01:27:26,199
matter of fact, with Christian Farrier, Lou for Marino, and

1791
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:30,880
Glenn Ordway. They're like Boston sports people, okay for years

1792
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:35,199
like big then went on their live radio show and

1793
01:27:36,399 --> 01:27:38,680
as a psychic medium. And I'm not kidding you. It

1794
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:40,399
was dark like this and there, and they had tea

1795
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,159
lights everywhere, that's all that was on. And I'm like, oh,

1796
01:27:43,159 --> 01:27:44,920
it's the first time I've ever been with the room

1797
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:50,239
with tea lights with three guys, right, and they're laughing.

1798
01:27:50,279 --> 01:27:52,920
And so anyways, make a long story short, Glenn Rodway

1799
01:27:53,079 --> 01:27:55,159
was not open to medium ship at all. And he's like,

1800
01:27:55,399 --> 01:27:58,359
it's like, well, yeah, she looks normal. She has normal

1801
01:27:58,399 --> 01:28:01,199
clothes on. And they were asking me questions about will

1802
01:28:01,239 --> 01:28:02,600
Tom Brady go.

1803
01:28:03,399 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: This is the reason why I was on.

1804
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 2: They wanted to know if he was staying with the Patriots,

1805
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,640
if he wasn't. And so a lot of the things

1806
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,560
came true in that podcast, which was great, but it

1807
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,520
was all under interpretation, you know. And but anyways, Glenn

1808
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,439
or Way did not believe in anything. So I said

1809
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:18,600
to him at the end, I said, this is not air,

1810
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:20,760
not on air, I said. He says, oh, it's really

1811
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:22,119
nice to meet you, even though I don't believe in

1812
01:28:22,159 --> 01:28:24,119
those stuff. I said, it's okay, Glenn. I put my

1813
01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:26,479
hand on. I said, when you need me, I'll be

1814
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:28,920
there for you. He'said, well, I won't need you. I said,

1815
01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:31,680
don't say that, because you may need me, and when

1816
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,199
you do, I'm there for you. It's free reading, free reading. Well,

1817
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,399
because that's exactly what happens people. Someone dies and all

1818
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:38,840
of a sudden they want to talk to them, you

1819
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:39,359
know what I mean?

1820
01:28:39,399 --> 01:28:42,399
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, they want to like what happened to grandma?

1821
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that that's what happens. Yeah, so yeah, that

1822
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:46,800
happens all the time.

1823
01:28:47,039 --> 01:28:49,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's when I find that people are very,

1824
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,960
very interested, yeah in it, because at that point they're

1825
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,439
just like, I want to talk to grandma. Yeah, you know,

1826
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:56,199
it's okay.

1827
01:28:56,399 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is really funny. This was before

1828
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:04,279
I was doing mediumship. I was in my late twenties

1829
01:29:04,279 --> 01:29:06,600
and my friend says to me, oh, did you know

1830
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,840
you know John Edwards? He is a psychic medium famous. Yeah,

1831
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,880
And she goes, oh, there's this guy. I think I

1832
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,319
was twenty years old, and he's on rate and he'd

1833
01:29:15,399 --> 01:29:18,199
see spirits. I'm like I don't believe that crap, do you?

1834
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,399
Back in the day, yeah, and she's like, oh, come on,

1835
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,600
I was in Pennsylvania visit her. She goes, well, let's

1836
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,319
watch it on television, and you know, he's doing his thing.

1837
01:29:26,359 --> 01:29:29,520
And I'm like, there's just and I sat there and

1838
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,760
I'm thinking, Okay, well she could have known this. She

1839
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,199
could have known that, you know what I mean, going

1840
01:29:33,239 --> 01:29:36,000
through all the everything saying and now I look up

1841
01:29:36,039 --> 01:29:38,520
to him, like, wow, he's really great. Do you know

1842
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,399
what I mean? Because I can understand what he's doing.

1843
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,079
Speaker 1: It's amazing how the world works.

1844
01:29:43,279 --> 01:29:44,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.

1845
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 1: Now. Speaking of the world, I'd love to hear your

1846
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:51,279
thoughts on where we're all heading, because it seems like

1847
01:29:51,319 --> 01:29:54,439
it's a little bit Craig Gray right now, and there's

1848
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,960
a lot of people who are afraid about, you know,

1849
01:29:57,039 --> 01:29:59,359
the future and where we're all going and stuff like that.

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I don't need predictions or anything like that. I just generally,

1851
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speaking of humanity as a whole consciousness. I think we're

1852
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more awakened now than we've ever been in our lifetime,

1853
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even though in the last six months, it's been last

1854
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the last.

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Speaker 2: Five years, what do they call it, Aquarius something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now we're entering the Age of Aquarius. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So like I don't really keep up on a lot

1858
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of that stuff, like my students do and they tell me,

1859
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and so I don't need to.

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Speaker 1: But we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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And now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling that, you know, we're all beings of light,

1863
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you know, And yes, it is like Star Wars, the

1864
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good against evil, you know, the dark sun light side. Yeah,

1865
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And it's just like that. And especially it's more now

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prominent because of the Internet because.

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Speaker 1: Now we're connected. Yeah, we're all.

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Speaker 2: Connected, and we can talk to people in other country.

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It wasn't like it was sixty years ago, sixty twenty yeah.

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Speaker 1: Twenty yeah, what are you talking about? Twenty thirty years ago?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: But like ninety five it was dialogue. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so my thought is, you know, even if you

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go back hundreds of years ago, we all thought that

1875
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the moon, you know, when there's an eclipse, they'd all

1876
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be all this shaken at the moon, yelling at the moon.

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Speaker 1: Right because it's not unhappy with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I honestly feel that as hard at

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times as it is we have to go through these

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hard times to get to the light. There will always

1881
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be negative and positive I feel, because again they balance

1882
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each other out, you know what I mean. It's a matter,

1883
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you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But would you agree that if there's I've noticed this,

1885
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and this is an equilibrium of the universe. Universe is

1886
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about balance, right. You can just see it in nature, right,

1887
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it's perfectly balanced. And ecosystem is perfectly balanced until we

1888
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screw it up. But everything's bound universes is perfectly bounced

1889
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to solar systems and so on. So when there is

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a great negative force that arises, we'll call that. I'll

1891
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say World War two. Okay, yep, there was a great

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01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,039
negative force that could have easily taken over the planet, right,

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but then the equal positive side came up to fight it.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: But that that didn't exist.

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Speaker 2: Without about this, Actually, you have to have both the even.

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Speaker 1: So, even when something really negative happens in the world,

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there is a positive reaction to it to balance it out.

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So there is no fear. I don't have any fear

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of of something completely covering you know.

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Speaker 2: I want to look at it this way, like you know,

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we live in the universe, we live in space. A

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01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,800
lot of it is fear, and we create the fear. Yes,

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we can create bad things to happen. We can manifest

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this in that. But I feel that, you know, there

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is a rise of consciousness, but there it's not nothing

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new because we've already been conscious. But when more away,

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and some of us are and some of us still

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are not and may never choose to be. Yeah, in

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this life, But I truly don't believe that it's the

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end all because again, it's never the end all here.

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There's no such thing as time. This is just one

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spot in our journey, our whole lifetime. Here is one dream.

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That's what I feel like, Like, So what if I

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go in my head like every like your whole journey,

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Here is just one dream, do you know what I mean?

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This is just one spot in our in our enlightenment,

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you know. And so I understand where you're coming from, Civilians,

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where people are it's the end of the world world that, Yes,

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we see the chaos is and that because we're living

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it more, we're socialized and conditioned. Yeah, oh my gosh,

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so our minds are controlling it. It's creating more than have. Yes,

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there's bad yes there's good and yes there is change.

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Yes there is higher consciousness, and this is beautiful. But

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at the same time, it's been happening for thousands of years.

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Speaker 1: But now we just so. In other words, before, when

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we lived in a village thousands a year ago, we

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wouldn't know what happened two miles or three miles away.

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Speaker 2: There could be a war going on exactly. And you know,

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I travel and what I've noticed also through my travels is,

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you know, like I'm out in India and Europe whatever

1932
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other countries, our country is very young here in this

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Western world, and we don't even some people don't even

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realize that that. Like when I go to India there

1935
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there's certain parts of India they're already higher the whole town,

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the whole community, the whole states, they're already higher consciousness.

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They're already living like this because they've been doing it

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for thousands of years. Our Western world is a guinea pig.

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You know. What we've created here in our Western worlds

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our way of thinking, our way of spirituality, is not

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what exists all around the world, you know. Yeah, And

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but I didn't realize that till I traveled, Like I

1943
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:58,800
knew it, but I didn't know it. Yeah, so I'm like, oh,

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it's experience it. Yeah, so we we it's a hard play.

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We're still trying to figure things out here in the

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Western world, you know what I mean, where already they

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haven't figured out of other places. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because the US, specifically in the Western world.

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I mean when you go to Europe, you know, you

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walk around and you're like, look at that building. It

1951
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was built in eight. I'm like, an eight built an eight.

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It's like, oh, well, our dry wall was from nineteen

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seventy five, and we think that's pretty kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's so we're very young, yeah, folk, but we grew

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so fast, It really grew so fast. After World War Two,

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we really kind of took over in many ways around

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the world as far as a power is concerned. But

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we are living we are at the forefront of the

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three dimensional world, right, Yeah, there really isn't any I mean,

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you could argue China, now, you could definitely argue Japan,

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but on the size scope, where the largest country that's

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on the edge of the cutting edge of the three

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dimensional world. We have the three dimensional world, the technologies,

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the comforts all of that. We're pretty ahead in many ways.

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I'm not saying please everyone with the comments. There are

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other countries in the world. Europe absolutely is other, but

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the West ahead of all that, agreed, But India and

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in the East is really ahead in the consciousness standpoint,

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where they're not as ahead in the materialistic It's changing.

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The US has kind of invaded a lot, or the

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Western thought has invaded a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of sad, actually, yeah.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you know, there's McDonald's in India.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I went there. I'm like, everything was vegetarians fast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no amber.

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Speaker 2: But I'll be honest with you when I go to

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India and when I see American stuff, because I'm like,

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I'm trying to come over here spiritually right and to

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find that piece. But there's you guys, and they're trying

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all to get to America where they don't understand that

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there's the disconnect here.

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Speaker 1: But now one thing I've noticed is that it's becoming

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more global. So it's not so before our main export

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was our culture. The US's main export was our cultures,

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our movies, our music, our art. That was that was

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for many, many years, probably since I probably say probably

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since the war, since World War Two. I would say

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that maybe a little earlier that the world all wanted

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what the US had. Where nowadays it's Japan has a

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huge influence, South Korea has a huge influence. Other countries

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have huge influences globally. Now, global brands, global ideas, global storytelling.

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I mean, you're looking at it's next.

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Speaker 2: We've done it all, right, right, so it's everything's now,

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It's time to get back into the higher consciousness.

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Speaker 1: So now we're like exactly, we're really evolved on a

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three dimensional standard and our AI is doing a whole

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lot of other stuff. I think people are starting to

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figure out. They're like, no, no, I need to go This isn't.

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Speaker 2: Enough, right and less is more actually.

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Speaker 1: And that's where people are starting to realize that do

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I really need all of this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And I and I want to say also that

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what bothers me as a guru, spiritual leader, whoever, whatever

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you want to call me today is that people think

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that there's a certain way that they have to connect.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean, connect to the other side.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so your higher self if you don't yeah, if

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you don't do it, this way.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to connect, right, you don't have to

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we all don't have to go to the Himalayas. Yeah

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and meditate for twenty four days yeah, or twenty four

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years in a.

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Speaker 2: Case, right, yeah, that's one way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so, uh, we're already connected. People need to

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understand that they're already liked inside them, that energy, that personality,

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whoever they are, is who they are. You're already connected

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to the consciousness around you. Everything is energy, everything is frequency,

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everything is vibration. If I could level this up, I

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would you know, it's the deeper meditation if you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be an amazing Maybe I should do

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that one day, just like a visual effect like that

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would be water.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So so my thing is like there, you don't

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have to learn a certain way. Yes, you can come

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to my classes or you come to the podcast. We

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01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,840
can learn certain things and techniques, but you're already connected.

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You're already a being of light.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a thousand meditations. Yeah, there's more than that.

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Speaker 2: There's millions of different kinds and you don't even need

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that to connect because you already are a light, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But there's just different paths to go down. That

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each path is going to teach you different yeah things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel that a spirit speaking through me

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right now. I think no, but I feel I feel

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like I'm not in deep trance, but I can feel

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it because I know I'm like, what are you saying, Sheila,

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01:39:59,319 --> 01:40:01,920
But I just feel like there will always be change

2040
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here in the universe, in our worlds, and that's part

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of our growth of our universe, but here of our

2042
01:40:10,239 --> 01:40:12,840
higher consciousness. But there will always be changed. The will

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01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:16,039
always be negative. They'll always be positive even though things

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are going to the greater good because people will find

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that that's mucky. They won't agree with that either, you

2046
01:40:21,279 --> 01:40:23,319
know what I mean. But there will always be change

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01:40:23,319 --> 01:40:26,960
here because that's what the human experience is here. This

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is where we are here.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:37,199
and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: You know, and people say, oh, well we're getting better,

2052
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Yes we are, absolutely, But they got better in the

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seventies too when they want LSD you know what I mean.

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But yeah, sixties seventies. So it's just a matter of change.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Is it more aware? Yes, because of religions breaking down

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01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:58,079
this and that, and these conversations yeah, yeah, yeah, and

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and a way of things deteriorating to make good in

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01:41:02,399 --> 01:41:06,479
light and always everything that's happening is light is coming out,

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you know, light is coming out from everything. And so

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that's the outcome ultimately is the light, you know, light

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in a good way, you know, and the connection of

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the universe. You know. But I feel that there will

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always be turmoil here.

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Speaker 1: You know, there'll be different variations of it. So like

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perfect example, right now, you and iron are an air

2067
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conditioned room, very comfortable, you know, nice seats that are

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you know, that are built for our backs and everything's beautiful.

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But there's there's humans experiencing right now in an Amazon

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right now, in a tribe, same time period. That's true,

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very different experience right absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And you know when I go to India, you know,

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I've I've seen similar things like that in villages, isn't that?

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And it all comes down to love and kindness and

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connection and it's about food. It's down to the nitty

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01:42:05,359 --> 01:42:09,359
gritty of shelter. You got your health, You got shelter,

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01:42:10,359 --> 01:42:13,840
and what else do you need? You have water, you know,

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and connection and and they're so connected to everything more

2079
01:42:18,279 --> 01:42:20,720
they see things more clearly because they don't have all

2080
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:25,039
the disturbances. Yeah, and it's noise. Yeah, and so it's

2081
01:42:25,119 --> 01:42:25,880
kind of beautiful.

2082
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,680
Speaker 1: You know, I've gotten it actually, Like you know, the

2083
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:31,000
holidays is a rough time for me because everyone's asking

2084
01:42:31,039 --> 01:42:32,159
me what can I get you. I'm like, I don't

2085
01:42:32,199 --> 01:42:35,199
want anything. Yeah, my kids drives them nuts. I'm like,

2086
01:42:35,199 --> 01:42:36,800
I don't want you guys to be nice to each other.

2087
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:39,119
Speaker 2: Do you know what I do to my kids? Love

2088
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:42,079
as well? I did for Mother's Day anyways, because I

2089
01:42:42,119 --> 01:42:44,680
don't want anything either, because I am a nomad. I

2090
01:42:45,359 --> 01:42:47,960
really am a nomad now. And I don't even live

2091
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:52,039
in Florida. I live everywhere, right, And so for Mother's

2092
01:42:52,119 --> 01:42:54,640
Day the last two years, I said, okay, sit down

2093
01:42:55,119 --> 01:42:57,720
my two grown kids, and I gave them each my

2094
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,520
book that I had given to them, you know when

2095
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,159
I made the book, and I said, okay, let's read

2096
01:43:03,199 --> 01:43:06,800
a paragraph because I know they haven't read read my

2097
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:08,880
book yet. And so each one of them, I make

2098
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:13,319
them read a paragraph of my books, right, and I go,

2099
01:43:13,399 --> 01:43:15,199
if I dedicated this book to you, at least you

2100
01:43:15,199 --> 01:43:15,800
could read it.

2101
01:43:17,039 --> 01:43:18,039
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's fast.

2102
01:43:18,119 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my gift to them and a gift to

2103
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,279
you I mean my gift to myself. Yeah, I'm like, okay,

2104
01:43:24,279 --> 01:43:25,439
now you can go do what you want.

2105
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,279
Speaker 1: I do believe that at a certain I mean, at

2106
01:43:28,359 --> 01:43:30,840
least for me. As I'm getting older. I'm just I'm

2107
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:35,279
just starting to I don't want things anymore. Things are relevant.

2108
01:43:35,359 --> 01:43:37,279
Speaker 2: It's all about the connection. It's all about the love

2109
01:43:37,319 --> 01:43:40,199
connection and the energy. And it's about the experience. That's

2110
01:43:40,199 --> 01:43:42,840
why I game it today. But I've done it on zoom. Yeah,

2111
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:44,880
but I want to experience you. I want to experience

2112
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:46,439
your wife. I want to experience the you know what

2113
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:48,319
I mean. No, seriously, I want to experience it.

2114
01:43:48,359 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 1: You know, and this is so much more you know,

2115
01:43:51,279 --> 01:43:55,039
vivid and lively then it would be on zoom. Yeah,

2116
01:43:55,199 --> 01:43:58,239
Zoom is great, but this is a different energy. Yeah,

2117
01:43:58,279 --> 01:44:00,840
being in the space, being in the room, in the energy.

2118
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:03,399
A lot of people pick up on the energy when

2119
01:44:03,399 --> 01:44:06,159
they walk in this room because of all the people

2120
01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:07,880
who've been here. Yeah, stuff that's happened.

2121
01:44:08,079 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 2: Oh I love it. I've seen it on your every night.

2122
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,079
I think it's like ten past twelve. I always get

2123
01:44:13,079 --> 01:44:16,640
my thing on Instagram, you know, my reel. I'm like, oh,

2124
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:19,039
what's on today? Someone else died and they came back.

2125
01:44:21,399 --> 01:44:23,960
But I saw, you know, you're awake, thing like oh

2126
01:44:24,399 --> 01:44:27,680
just a few minutes ago. I'm like, oh this baba,

2127
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:29,520
and I'm thinking, oh yeah, I'm on this. I'm like,

2128
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:32,720
where am I right now? I forget because the lights,

2129
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:33,520
I'm like wow.

2130
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 1: One thing that's really interesting is a lot of people

2131
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:39,199
who who do doom scrolling, or they watch the news

2132
01:44:39,399 --> 01:44:41,960
or they and they start getting wrapped up in the fear.

2133
01:44:42,079 --> 01:44:45,239
Oh yeah, they don't. I need them to think about

2134
01:44:45,239 --> 01:44:49,000
something for a second, that most of us, not everybody,

2135
01:44:49,319 --> 01:44:51,960
are in a room that's safe.

2136
01:44:52,159 --> 01:44:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2137
01:44:53,239 --> 01:44:57,239
Speaker 1: So you're seeing war, you're seeing politics, you're seeing other

2138
01:44:57,279 --> 01:45:02,600
things on your screens, and you're getting all nervous and

2139
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:06,800
fight or flight and you know, paranoid, don't that's all

2140
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:07,479
in your mind.

2141
01:45:08,119 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 2: You're literally in the chatter, the monkey mind.

2142
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:15,279
Speaker 1: You're literally in a safe room most not everybody. If

2143
01:45:15,319 --> 01:45:17,600
bombs are going off in your neighborhood, that's not who

2144
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,399
I'm talking to. But the majority of people don't have

2145
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,960
bombs going off in there, and you're generally in a

2146
01:45:24,039 --> 01:45:28,960
safe space. Generally, it's all in your mind. You're creating that.

2147
01:45:29,199 --> 01:45:33,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, everything you listen to everything you see all

2148
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:36,359
the Yeah, it's so. I can't tell you how many

2149
01:45:36,359 --> 01:45:38,439
times I've told my kids, as they would be in raised,

2150
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:40,680
don't listen to that. Oh my god, your mind and

2151
01:45:41,119 --> 01:45:43,760
the thing. Oh your my, you're crazy. But it's true.

2152
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,880
It's all vibration, it's all frequency. You create your own world.

2153
01:45:47,039 --> 01:45:48,680
Speaker 1: There's things I watched when I was a kid that

2154
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:49,560
I can't watch now.

2155
01:45:50,199 --> 01:45:53,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I won't watch anything like that, like because

2156
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:54,880
I'll have nightmarees.

2157
01:45:56,199 --> 01:45:59,319
Speaker 1: Energetically. I can't. I can't deal with it anymore. But

2158
01:45:59,399 --> 01:46:02,119
I have memories of when I watched it. Yeah.

2159
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 2: My ex used to always watch the news all day,

2160
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:06,560
you know, and I would scream, oh.

2161
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 1: My god, just turn it off, turn it off.

2162
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:10,640
Speaker 2: Because I don't want to know. I don't wan want

2163
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:12,079
to hear it, because it's energy.

2164
01:46:12,199 --> 01:46:14,680
Speaker 1: Wayne Dyer said this once. It's like, if it's important

2165
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:15,880
enough news, you'll get to me.

2166
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:20,319
Speaker 2: Absolutely. You don't need to watch the news, that's right. Yeah,

2167
01:46:20,399 --> 01:46:22,399
if it's important enough, you'll know it.

2168
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:24,279
Speaker 1: Someone will say something.

2169
01:46:24,039 --> 01:46:26,439
Speaker 2: Right, because the universe is providing for you all the time.

2170
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there's you know, the US had the whole

2171
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:30,239
thing with Venezuela of a few.

2172
01:46:30,319 --> 01:46:31,079
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's right.

2173
01:46:31,359 --> 01:46:34,239
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know. I had no idea because

2174
01:46:34,239 --> 01:46:36,199
I didn't see it, and somehow it got to me.

2175
01:46:36,239 --> 01:46:38,319
I'm like, oh really Yeah. Then I looked it up.

2176
01:46:38,399 --> 01:46:39,560
I was like, oh god, jeez.

2177
01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I can either take this to heart,

2178
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:44,159
I could keep what I'll have it. And you know,

2179
01:46:44,199 --> 01:46:47,119
it's really interesting. I like to go walking. You know,

2180
01:46:47,199 --> 01:46:49,159
in the last two weeks I have not walked, and

2181
01:46:49,159 --> 01:46:50,880
shame on me, but I just have not. And I'll

2182
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:54,000
tell you the reason why. Because my monkey mind was

2183
01:46:54,039 --> 01:46:56,840
watching Facebook this and that, and late at night they

2184
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,119
were telling everybody what to do not to do when

2185
01:46:59,159 --> 01:47:01,760
you're walk in because you can kidnapped. I got so

2186
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:03,039
freaked out I stopped walking.

2187
01:47:04,119 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 1: Isn't that insane?

2188
01:47:05,079 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I said, Sheila, what are you doing?

2189
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:09,199
Speaker 1: Has anyone been abducted in your No, not at all,

2190
01:47:09,279 --> 01:47:10,239
of course exactly.

2191
01:47:10,359 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 2: And I think, yeah, you create, you can create it too. Oh,

2192
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:14,479
so it's important.

2193
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,079
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you, but during that

2194
01:47:17,079 --> 01:47:20,279
that that interesting time in twenty twenty, I was wiping

2195
01:47:20,319 --> 01:47:23,760
down Amazon boxes. You remember, you remember it, when we

2196
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:26,640
all were in the house together. I was wiping up

2197
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:28,439
because that's what they told us to do. I was like,

2198
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:32,720
I was freaked out. Yeah, oh my god, we were

2199
01:47:33,119 --> 01:47:35,439
wiping down Mine's insane.

2200
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:37,600
Speaker 2: I bleached my whole house.

2201
01:47:38,079 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 1: Like you were doing crazy stuff because of the fear,

2202
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:44,199
and it was like control. It was really interesting.

2203
01:47:44,399 --> 01:47:46,159
Speaker 2: Now you don't know what's real and what's not, what's

2204
01:47:46,199 --> 01:47:47,079
I AI or not.

2205
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:51,640
Speaker 1: It's getting really it's I can still tell because I

2206
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:55,119
have a trained eye visually, but sometimes it's done so

2207
01:47:55,199 --> 01:47:57,520
well that you're like, yeah, Like I'll see a little

2208
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:59,960
cat walking up to a door and it's a door

2209
01:48:00,039 --> 01:48:01,800
bell camp. That's when they get the door bell camps.

2210
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,279
What Oh, that's cute, And like all of a sudden,

2211
01:48:04,319 --> 01:48:06,560
it pulls out a machine gun just starts shooting or

2212
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,239
something like that at a squirrel, and I'm like, oh,

2213
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:12,199
that's a I But sometimes.

2214
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:14,119
Speaker 2: I just don't know, like in video games, you know,

2215
01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:17,800
that's different. But I think that is what's I feel

2216
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:20,520
really bad for the young generation right now because they

2217
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,000
were all brought up on that and it's all violence,

2218
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,399
you know, and so their reality that they're creating, and

2219
01:48:27,159 --> 01:48:29,560
you know, with poor people that are getting shot, you know,

2220
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:33,119
in the United States recently, and it's from all that

2221
01:48:33,199 --> 01:48:35,479
they're like it's accepted. You know, when my kids were

2222
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,079
in Catholic school, they were bomb threats at the school.

2223
01:48:38,319 --> 01:48:40,439
It's the oh mom, that happens all the time. No,

2224
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:43,479
it doesn't happen, and it never happened to me. This

2225
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:46,399
is this new generation. It's and I feel so sad

2226
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:49,560
for them because they don't understand that that's not that

2227
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:50,319
shouldn't happen.

2228
01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 1: There's little ai Instagram. Someone makes something like hey, I'm

2229
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:59,239
talking to you from the eighties, and it's like them like, oh,

2230
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,920
must where you're at right now? Because here we don't

2231
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:05,079
have the internet. We go out and talk to our friends,

2232
01:49:05,239 --> 01:49:07,840
we eat real food. Were like, oh my god, I

2233
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:13,640
can go to McDonald's because it's still meat, that kind

2234
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:14,119
of stuff.

2235
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 2: That's funny.

2236
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,319
Speaker 1: It's just you sit there like it's a nostalgia thing.

2237
01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:19,880
That's one of the reasons why I think Stranger Things

2238
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:20,479
did so well.

2239
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:23,079
Speaker 2: Oh because it's just like when we grow up, it's.

2240
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 1: Like it's it's really accurate. Yeah, it was really accurate.

2241
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember even the clothes and the comb in

2242
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:28,239
the back pocket.

2243
01:49:28,239 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 1: I mean it was done so beautifully. But that nostalgia

2244
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:35,520
of like, oh man, like they say Yeah, there's there's

2245
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:38,039
a term that says peak. The peak of humanity was

2246
01:49:38,079 --> 01:49:38,640
the nineties.

2247
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 2: Wow, that was the peak.

2248
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 1: That's peak humanity. That was right before the Internet took over,

2249
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,600
before social media talk to it.

2250
01:49:47,119 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 2: I had web mail, no web something.

2251
01:49:49,079 --> 01:49:52,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was some Internet, but the social media, yeah, yeah,

2252
01:49:52,039 --> 01:49:54,359
I had not Oh god, social media. There was no

2253
01:49:54,439 --> 01:49:57,119
social media in the nineties. Social media really didn't come

2254
01:49:57,159 --> 01:50:01,239
in until I think early two thousands. My Space came out,

2255
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:04,720
Space all that kind of stuff. But you know, people

2256
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:07,159
were still talking to each other, people were still eating

2257
01:50:07,359 --> 01:50:08,560
semi real food.

2258
01:50:08,319 --> 01:50:10,199
Speaker 2: And right, they were still going on sps.

2259
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:12,520
Speaker 1: And I found and I found out where the real.

2260
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:13,520
Speaker 2: Dates in person dates.

2261
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:16,079
Speaker 1: Right, But I found out where that term came from.

2262
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:19,000
I saw it in the movie. It wasn't The Matrix.

2263
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:23,119
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

2264
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:28,319
And now back to the show.

2265
01:50:30,159 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 2: I Love the Matrix in ninety nine when.

2266
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 1: Morpheus when he's explaining why they chose the nineties to

2267
01:50:41,039 --> 01:50:43,359
be the place where it was because it was peak humanity.

2268
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:46,079
Now they did it obviously because that was the time

2269
01:50:46,119 --> 01:50:47,680
they did it. They had no idea what was coming.

2270
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:50,880
The filmmakers they said peak humanity was the nineties and

2271
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,359
that's when everyone was in this was like, son of

2272
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:55,279
I don't believe that. I don't believe we're peak.

2273
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:58,319
Speaker 2: I loved the Matrix. That was really really my favor

2274
01:50:58,359 --> 01:51:00,600
It's my number one movie. Yeah, I told.

2275
01:51:00,399 --> 01:51:04,520
Speaker 1: You, what if I told you that Blue Pill? Red Pill? Yeah,

2276
01:51:05,119 --> 01:51:08,520
So let me ask you this for someone. So, someone

2277
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,960
who's watching right now and is going through an awakening

2278
01:51:12,119 --> 01:51:15,640
and is confused as hell, is scared because of their

2279
01:51:16,199 --> 01:51:20,319
religious background, or of the fear of being ostracized, of

2280
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:24,520
losing or losing their family, losing their marriage, losing their

2281
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:29,560
kids because of it's it's a real serious fear, I

2282
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:33,000
get it. What advice would you have for them?

2283
01:51:33,119 --> 01:51:36,039
Speaker 2: Well, my thing is you always follow what you feel

2284
01:51:36,119 --> 01:51:39,880
is right for yourself and also your loved ones around

2285
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:42,840
you in case it's you know, a bad circumstance, you know,

2286
01:51:43,359 --> 01:51:50,079
but you have to be true to yourself. You have

2287
01:51:50,159 --> 01:51:52,439
to be true to yourself because you're the one who's

2288
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:55,079
living your own journey. You know. I used to say,

2289
01:51:55,159 --> 01:51:58,800
people don't come to my house for coffee and tea,

2290
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:00,439
so they don't have a right to tell me what

2291
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:05,279
to do with my life, right, you know, and that's

2292
01:52:05,279 --> 01:52:09,760
really what it comes down to. But you have to

2293
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:11,680
be true to you because this is your journey. You

2294
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:13,920
can't live your journey for other people. Yes, you have

2295
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:17,119
to take care of your children, but every experience is

2296
01:52:17,159 --> 01:52:19,840
your experience and it's what you make of it. And

2297
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:23,960
our lifetime here in this human experience is very short,

2298
01:52:24,199 --> 01:52:28,840
and because it's dimensional, yeah, so it's okay, but you

2299
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:33,760
need to make every second count, you know, because our

2300
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:39,720
journey keeps continuing even after this journey here where in

2301
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:42,600
our life experience as a human, so it's never ending.

2302
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:45,399
There's no such thing as time. So it's important for

2303
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:48,960
you to recognize that you are on your journey. You

2304
01:52:49,039 --> 01:52:51,439
come into this world alone and naked, and you leave

2305
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:55,399
the same haha. And it's very short experience. So how

2306
01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:57,680
do you see the outcome of your experience? Where do

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you want to be in a year? Where do you

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want to be in a month or the next day.

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And you're the one who has to make that happen.

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You can't allow you can't wait for someone else to

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do it for you. You have to make the balls rolling,

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you know, start the ball rolling itself. But also just

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being true to you and the best friend you can

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ever have in this world is yourself. Don't expect anything

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from anyone as friendship, even relationships. The only person that

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can give you what you need is you, right powerful. Yeah,

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and once you recognize that, it'll put you on a

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different wavelength where the universe can work with you, and

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you can work with the universe and know that you're

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on your journey, you know. Yeah, that's what I'm so.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a story. You were saying about

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no time, time doesn't exist. There's actually a place on

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Earth that there is no time. It doesn't exist. It's

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a little island off the coast of Norway where there's

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six months of light and oh really months of dark

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and there's no time, like time doesn't exist there in

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a traditional standpoint. Okay, So what people who live on

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this small island do is they take their watches off

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and they hang them on the bridge and they're all

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locked in the bridge and it's it's a way for

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them to signify that I've given time away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really cool.

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Speaker 1: And there's people are like playing soccer a three o'clock

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in the morning because it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't last. Yeah, it's so true.

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Speaker 1: Kids are going to school at whatever time, like there's

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no time.

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Speaker 2: There's no time, so everything just kind of just exists. Yeah,

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and that's really what we are here because everything we

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as humans have created all and socialized people to be

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a certain way for control, you know, and from the

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beginning of times here, and that's not who we're meant

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to be. We're just we're meant to be in that

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no time space in every form, you know.

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Speaker 1: And when you're meditating, you're in that no times.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and it's wonderful, and you can do it anywhere,

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you know, and that's what I love it at any time, right.

2348
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You know. I had a eye surgery recently and I

2349
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lost some sight in my eye, and but I didn't

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tell you. I tell you now. And I did a

2351
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lot of meditating and stuff, you know what I mean.

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So I'm like, Okay, well I can't see how they are,

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01:55:16,479 --> 01:55:19,399
but I'm meditating still, you know what I mean. And

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so what I'm trying to say is even though my

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outer eyes are not great, my inner eyes.

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Speaker 1: Are as hell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I go everywhere you know, beautiful. Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find out more about you?

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Speaker 2: My website is the best place. It's shilamriemedium dot com.

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And I hate that word because I didn't like to

2361
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use psychic medium, but I have to in order for

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them to find me, you know. So Sheila mariemedium dot com.

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And my book is called Forensic Medium The Power of

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the Unseen, and that's on Barnes and Noble. There's an

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ebook and a paperback and also on Amazon.

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Speaker 1: That's beautiful. And do you have any final messages for

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people listening that will be seen now and in the future,

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01:56:04,279 --> 01:56:07,039
a message to help them get through whatever they're getting

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01:56:07,279 --> 01:56:07,960
need to get through.

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Speaker 2: Just know that you're loved, you know, and the universe

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01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:15,399
loves you. You're never I want to say, You're never alone.

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The universe is always with you. You know, the Sun

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and the moon and are always there. Just look up

2374
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:25,239
at the sun and the moon. You know, when I'm

2375
01:56:25,279 --> 01:56:28,079
in India or wherever I look up, it's the same moon,

2376
01:56:28,439 --> 01:56:31,920
it's the same sun. You know, you're and the universe

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01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:34,239
will give you that love and that connection that you need.

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01:56:34,319 --> 01:56:37,800
So get outside and go outside, go for a walk,

2379
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:40,680
go sit outside. If you have to hear the elements,

2380
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:43,079
feel the elements, be part of that you're already part

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01:56:43,119 --> 01:56:46,760
of the universe, but the universe will teach you. You know,

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01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:49,199
if you look at a leaf, everything you need to

2383
01:56:49,239 --> 01:56:51,880
know is in that leaf, if you really pay attention

2384
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:55,039
to it. So it so getting outside and knowing that

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01:56:56,079 --> 01:56:58,479
you don't have to be like everybody else, because if

2386
01:56:58,479 --> 01:57:01,159
we were, what a boring place, it would be right,

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you know, So just be.

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Speaker 3: You beautifully says, it's a pleasure. It's been such a

2389
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pleasure having Thank you, Thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for having me. It was wonderful to

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meet you. Thanks so much, Thank.

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Speaker 1: You, Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

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