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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're all I have an angry clowns.

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That is life.

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Speaker 3: But that's a hard like unless it's like NBA team

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or something like whoa, Hey, guys, Welcome back to Holly

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of the most in demand talent performers in adult entertainment.

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He's been in the business for over a decade, shot

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hundreds of scenes and worked with every top studio. He's

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also a multi award winner, including the twenty twenty five

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Expiz Male Performer of the Year. Fans know him for

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his high energy performances, his versatility, and his honesty and

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great sense of humor, and I'm so excited to finally

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have him here. Alex Jones, Welcome to Holly Randall and Filtered.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll start from the beginning, like I kind

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of do with all my guests, because everybody's always curious

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about the origin story. How did you get into the

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adult industry?

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Speaker 2: Modeling? Honestly, what was I like? I think eighteen or

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nineteen and I was looking on Craigslist.

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Speaker 1: Oh great, yeah, look for a job.

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Speaker 2: And I was looking for like modeling gigs and a

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couple of them were nude modeling. I was a little

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hornball all the time. Time I'm like, yeah, naked pictures

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of myself. And some of the photographers were like, have

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you tried porn? And I was like no, I never

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thought of that. And from there I just took those

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photos to uh, do you remember the.

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Speaker 1: Vivid Oh yeah, the Vivid building, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I mean, And up to Ellie Direct.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Derek, good old Derek.

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Speaker 2: Good old Derek, and showed him my picks and stuff

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and he was and I told him I wanted to

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be Ace Jones. Okay, I told him Ace Rogers at first,

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and I was like, that sounds like someone from the forties,

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you know. And I was like, yeah, it's not like

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a pilot or something, and and I was like, what

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about Ace Jones? And I wanted to do this whole

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thing Ace in the Hole. Yeah, I don't know. I

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was stupid. He goes, what's your real name? Like Alex.

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He's like, Alex's do Alex Jones?

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, that works, and uh yeah, just

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gave me a shot. I did my first scene and

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then they gave me contract. Kind of been smooth ailing.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So for those of you who don't know, Derek

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k was the agent who ran LA Direct, which used

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to be like the biggest adult industry agency. Things happened

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which we won't go into, but anyways, I don't think

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it's around anymore, is it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It was around for a while and being run by

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somebody else and like Chris took it over for a bite.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm not even sure if Chris is there.

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Speaker 1: I don't I think there, Yeah, I think I don't

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think the agency is anymore. Bronica started Zen Models, right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But anyways, so Derek was kind of like legendary in

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our industry for many reasons. So, but he really was

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one of the best and could get you like the

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biggest gigs.

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Speaker 2: And he really did work for you, Like, you know,

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despite some of the things that people felt about him,

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he really did like work for you. If there was

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something that happened on set, you just tell Derek and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the last thing you want is an angry

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call from Derek Ky like that. That man is scary, Like,

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oh my god. Yeah, you definitely wanted to tread lightly

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and make sure that you treated his model as well.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. So tell us about, like what was the first

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actual scene that you did, and like what were your

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thoughts going walking onto set.

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Speaker 2: It had to have been like dare dorm or I

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do know that like one of my very first scenes

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that I did recognize the performer that I was shooting

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still I don't know, she was still dating Eric John.

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out be like so shaken up. I'm like, what if

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you fail? Like, don't fail, Alex, you know. Yeah, there's

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porn start, but they really don't understand how fucking difficult.

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these beautiful women. Like, so it was it was easy

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parties and stuff like that prior to that, I would

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on time, like when everyone wants you to. So those

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a technique. I just bite my lip. I would bite

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down so fucking hard and I remember one time that

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my tooth went through my lip and my mouth was

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like I just had blood in my mouth and halfway

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Speaker 1: So we used to shoot Charles Darra a lot in

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the beginning, and we had one of her assistants who

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like what do you mean? He's like every time he

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Speaker 2: You know, there's sometimes too well, I'll get in my

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the mind gives you have to play with yourself.

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this smell what was going on. And we completed the scene,

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but I had like a hard time and I was

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supposed to leave, and the director or the guy who

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shot it, he was supposed to film with her the

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next day because he has like a POV site or

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something like that. And he called me and he goes, hey,

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you stay one more day, like going to shoot another scene,

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and I was like, oh, yeah, absolutely, I'm thinking. I

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had no idea that she was like shooting another scene.

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I thought that I would be shooting with someone else.

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And I get there and it's her again, and I'm

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like what the fuck? And he's like, yeah, I was

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supposed to shoot with her today, but yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. I'm gonna make you do it.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I know that you got through it, so

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could you do it again? And I'm like, are you

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fucking kidding you? Robert, and like, you know, yeah kind

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of he was like please, You're gonna save my ass.

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And I was like all right, And I didn't get

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through it. Halfway through, I was just like I can't

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do it. I was like, I was like I'm I

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was like, I'm I'm not attracted to you. You're fucking rude.

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I was like, I'm having issues here because of it,

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and like the energy is off, like everything is just

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and Robert's like I get it. She's like I'm talking

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talking to Derek and this, this and that, and I'm like, fine, whatever,

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say whatever you want to him. And then I get

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a call from Derek later on and he's like She's gone, like,

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you know, sorry about all that and this, And it

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was like the first time you actually like kind of apologize. Yeah,

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you know, it felt good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It takes a lot for him to do that, but

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I mean he obviously like knew you were a professional,

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and he was a performer himself, so I think like

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he probably understood, you know, what it was like to

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work with somebody who was difficult, like especially if they're rude. Yeah. Yeah,

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So how do you get through a scene like that?

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Like do you have a mental rolodex that you go

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through and you think of something else or like.

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Speaker 2: Kind of I'll create just little scenarios in my head

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whatever it may be you know, like even if I'm

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not attracted to my co star, I'm like, okay, Like

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I wasn't planning on having sex with her in my mind.

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I'm like, but we just met type of thing, and

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then it's just happened because you know, it's just we're

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horny right now and whatever, and then I can kind

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of get more into it. I don't know if that

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sounds rude.

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Speaker 1: No, but I mean you gotta do what you gotta

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do to like make the scene work.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's a poor news.

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Speaker 1: I mean it is a funny thing, right in a

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lot of ways, Like you are asking people to be

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intimate with strangers, which sometimes can be exciting and fun.

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Sometimes it doesn't always work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I shot a scene one time with this this

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girl who she's a very nice girl, but very cocked eye.

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I was like, just like she was looking at me,

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and then the other one was just like yeah, and

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I kept looking at it and it was just like

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throwing me off. And then she also had a very

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thick accent and like there was a language barrier there,

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so I was like trying to dirty talk with her,

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like trying to get my mind off of it. And

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then there was like there.

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Speaker 1: Was breaks there and I was like shit, I was like,

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I can't even talk to you. And that was just

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an eye contact thing obviously was look at can we

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do this seem with sunglasses?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: What do you do to keep like your body like

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up to shape, because it seems it's a very physical job.

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Like you guys really are sexual athletes, and the guy

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does do a lot of the world, you know, and

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you have to perform sometimes in like insane conditions like

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extreme heat, extreme cold, on a fucking scratchy blanket, on

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a bail of hay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think eating healthy, getting enough sleep, exercise, I

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just I mean, I just recently started doing pilates, but

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I do pilates in the morning with my girlfriend and

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we'll go to the plates studio do a class. I

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try to hit the gym at least like five times

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a week. I started taking testosterone recently, so that's actually

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helped because I'm trying to like bulk up putting on

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some muscle. But yeah, I think it's definitely like a

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big part of being a male performer is staying in shape.

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And I remember, like when not to knock any any

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of the older performers and stuff. But like when I

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first got in, a lot of people would tell me,

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they're like, oh, wow, you're so young, like suchly like

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a young you're one of the younger guys important. And

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now there's like way younger guys, you know what I mean.

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Like even before when I got in, some of the

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some of the older guys just they weren't in shape

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and they weren't like lookers or whatever. And I thought

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about it. I was like, why aren't there more like

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young attractive guys doing this, you know? I was like,

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why are there like a bunch of kind of dogs, Yeah, yeah,

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like as these guys, as these male performers. And then

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I think as time went on, like after I got in,

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a couple other guys got in and stuff, and then

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there was more and more. Maybe we just like the

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people that were watching, we fit that file and they're like, hey,

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I can do porn too, And now you have more

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younger fit guys that are getting in the business, and

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I think they see that, like, you know, attracted, like

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the guys have to be attractive as well. It's not

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just about the women this time, you know what I mean.

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And I feel like that was kind of the vibe before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the industry used to be so much

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smaller and so much more closed off, and it also

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used to I mean, there's still a lot of stigma

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around it, but it was even worse back then, so

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like there was a lot less people willing to like

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get involved. And I think also too, like the potential

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to make money was less than it is now. Yeah,

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and now like with the Internet now with personal content platforms,

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like people can actually come in and be their own

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boss and be like, essentially, you guys are all like

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many entrepreneurs now, and I think you're right. I think

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also with social media, people are seeing more of who

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you are as people, right, like pottery Daddy, which we'll

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get into, but you know, they're seeing you as human beings,

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not just as like, you know, guy like someone on

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a box cover or just like a guy playing in

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the scene. So I think it feels more relatable and

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it feels more like, oh, like that he seems normal. Yeah,

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like I could do that, you know. And I think

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also too, as a culture, we've started moving towards like

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a more health conscious culture and less I mean, like,

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you know, the one misconception obviously I'm sure you hear

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it all the time, is that all porn stars are

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on drugs, which is very much not true. I mean,

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don't get me wrong, there's porn stars on drugs, for sure,

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but there's also a lot of people who are really like,

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like they care about they care about longevity in their career,

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so they eat clean, they work like, they treat their

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body like properly. They are athletes, and they see themselves

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as business people as sexual athletes, and they you know,

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they market that. Yeah, yeah, okay, So I brought it

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up a couple of times, and I just actually really

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love this name. Why why do your Frians call you

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pottery Daddy?

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Speaker 2: I think that was something a new name that I

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was given recently. But I did a pottery class with

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my girlfriend and two friends and filmed a little video.

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Speaker 1: Did you do the ghost thing where like she was

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behind you?

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Speaker 2: No, well that was a friend of mine too. He

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was like, you missed the opportunity to put like the

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song from Ghosts, And I was just like, oh, I

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didn't even think about it. But but yeah, I made

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like a little bowl and I don't know, I really

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enjoyed doing it, and I I was kind of good

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at it, you know, And I was like, I never

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knew that this was like kind of cool and I

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and everyone was like, ooh, pottery Daddy.

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Speaker 1: Like maybe you should start making like sculptures of your

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penis and you can sell them to your fans. Wow,

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did you not think?

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Speaker 2: I did not think of that.

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Speaker 1: Really, I would be happy to be your manager, and

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I would be happy to take twenty percent.

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Speaker 2: It's a great idea.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Christmas is here, you know, so

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you know it's just around the corner. I mean, who

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doesn't want a ceramic version of Alex Jones penis?

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Speaker 2: Come on, guys, numbers down at the bottom there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're also known as somebody who feels like

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approachable and versatile, and you know your fans like love

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you for your sense of humor and that kind of thing.

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So like, what kind of stuff do you do to

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kind of put that across?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I think, yeah, just being real, there's

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been like a lot of different I'd say at least

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I'm my only fans like live shows and different things,

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and when people ask me questions, I don't really hold

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back and I'll just tell them how I feel. And

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even if it's embarrassing or something, and I just kind

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of laugh it off. And I think people respect the

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fact that I'm not lying to them, you know, and

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I guess it just makes me a little more trustworthy.

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And then also I've been in for however long now,

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so like, oh, thank god, I don't have any accusations

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against me or any bad things, you know, cancible things,

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And I think that speaks for itself. So when it

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comes to working with new performers, they're like, oh, okay,

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he seems like a safe guy. He's seems pretty chill.

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You know.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about the boundary checklists that like

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a lot of studios do on set? Now, do you

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feel like that you really love being informed about all

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the things that your partner does and doesn't do, or

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I know some performers have actually, and honestly, I've actually

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only ever heard of this from women. They feel like

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sometimes it kills the vibe a little bit, like you're

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almost like over communicating.

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Speaker 2: I think it's kind of nice to know like what

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to stay away from obviously, you know, and you don't

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want to like upset your partner. It does kill the

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vibe a little bit, But at the same time too,

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like not to knock anyone's feelings on like how they

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feel about shooting a scene and stuff, but I'm like,

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it is a job, you know, and though like you

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should enjoy it as well. It kind of helps me

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to stay in the mindset of this is a job

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rather than like it kind of makes it a little

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more topical, which is a little nicer for me, because

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sometimes lines get blurred, you know, and that's happened before,

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Like when I first got in There's a couple of

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people that I shot with multiple times that were kind

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of like, so, what's going on with us? And I'm like, Oh,

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I don't know what's going on with us?

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Speaker 1: You know, they were catching feelings, yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean, or you know, vice versa. Sometimes

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you're just like, oh, I like shooting with this person,

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and then you're like, I need to keep this topical

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because like I don't want to, you know what I mean,

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Like I've already done my dating yes stuff and yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it can definitely yeah cause an issue if

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you have a fall out with someone and then then

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you can't work with that person anymore, and then you're

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on their no.

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Speaker 2: List and then they have friends that, and they're saying

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something to that, and yeah, what is dating like.

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Speaker 1: Is a porn star is it? Is it hard for you?

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I mean you have a girlfriend now, yeah. Is she

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in the industry?

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Speaker 2: So she's not a performer, she's in sex work. She

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is porn adjacent. So she's a dominatrix okay, and she's

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a pro domn so she and she doesn't dumb me.

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Speaker 1: Just yeah, sitting my next question.

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Speaker 2: No, she's you know, a switch and so she's stubby

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with me. But she we met at Kinky Rabbit actually,

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and so she was a performer there, first time performer,

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and I had been performing there for a little while

475
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and got introduced to each other and then started talking

476
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,920
and from there and just kind of but it made

477
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,519
it easy the fact that she's like in sex work.

478
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,000
I feel like it's harder to date someone who's not

479
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,480
in sex work when you're in sex work because they're like, oh, yeah,

480
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,960
I'm totally cool with that, and then after a while

481
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,119
they're like, I'm not okay with this, and you're like, oh,

482
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,000
I thought you were. You know, Yeah, it's definitely something

483
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,839
you gotta get used to.

484
00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:13,079
Speaker 1: So, speaking of Kinky Rabbit, yeah, tell us a little

485
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,680
bit about that. It is a sex club.

486
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. So it's like this high end private sex

487
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:27,319
club in LA and they do parties every month kind

488
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:33,519
of like for the holidays and different occasions. They did

489
00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:36,640
one that was like Bacchanalia, so like the Greek.

490
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:40,799
Speaker 1: Oh, the Greek god like Dionysus.

491
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and like painted gold statues and grapes

492
00:24:43,559 --> 00:24:47,599
and all that stuff. Okay, So one year they had

493
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,880
me painted all white like a statue. So they just

494
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,960
like sprayed me down with this like white, grainy looking

495
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,119
paint and then they left my They left my dick

496
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:03,000
on painted because like some they they wanted to. But

497
00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:05,200
then they were also like, oh yeah, this girl is

498
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,799
going to be blowing, you know. And I was like,

499
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,119
you can't have fresh paint in there, and they're going

500
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,920
to be putting that in their mouth. Yeah, you know,

501
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,640
like they're like, oh okay, so they just left it.

502
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,119
So then I'm like all white, just with like a

503
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,720
black dick hanging down. And it was funny, but I'm

504
00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:24,400
standing on this platform. I kind of really want to

505
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,759
see that I do have.

506
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, that is funny.

507
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,319
Speaker 2: They had me on this platform, like right when you

508
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,200
walked through the door.

509
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: I feel like it made your dick look bigger.

510
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: It probably did, yeah, it probably the contrast, you know.

511
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,960
And and I'm just kind of standing there in some

512
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,799
pose looking off and people actually thought that I was

513
00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:49,720
a statue and then I would turn every.

514
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like what's up with this paint?

515
00:25:54,279 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

516
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: The pain for your penis.

517
00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:05,319
Speaker 2: Yeah serious, but yeah, No, Kinki Rabbit is really fun.

518
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,079
I've been working with them for like two years now,

519
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,039
maybe a little over two years, and it's become like

520
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,240
a like a family, you know, all over there.

521
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: The stuff that they do, Like the aesthetic is so beautiful.

522
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,559
I know, Cody's told me quite a bit about it.

523
00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:26,000
I can't remember the name of the woman that Lena, Yeah,

524
00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:28,839
oh my god. Yeah, so talented.

525
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,839
Speaker 2: Really, and she like does all the costumes. The last

526
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,559
bacchanalia that they did this last year, they had me

527
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,000
dressed as like a bull. So I have this like

528
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,440
weird leather mask thing with these like bold.

529
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: Like the minotaur kind of yeah, not a satyr, no, no, no,

530
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,079
I there's half goat.

531
00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: Yes yeah yeah, with like the hooked legs and stuff.

532
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:54,799
So yeah, they had me as like a minotaur and

533
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,759
like I come in.

534
00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:03,279
Speaker 1: And eat seven fair young men and women every ten years.

535
00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 2: Right in the Yeah, they take them to the labyrinth

536
00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:06,759
or something.

537
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, he's in the labyrinth and crete down at

538
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:15,920
the bottom, and then they have to send ugam Agean

539
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,720
has to send his son. Then he sends his son

540
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:22,880
there and his son kills a minoataur, but he forgets

541
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,759
to change the sale on the way back, because if

542
00:27:24,759 --> 00:27:26,680
he sails back with the black sail, they know he died.

543
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,079
If he sails back with a white sale, they know

544
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,759
he's alive. And then the king, overcome with grief, throws

545
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:32,839
himself into the seat, which is what it's called the Aegeans.

546
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

547
00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: Wow, I've my dad was like a Greek. Mythought, I'm

548
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:39,039
really into Greek mythology.

549
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: I like that. That was really cool.

550
00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:43,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, But yeah, so the minotaur was, Yeah, he

551
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,279
was a horrible beast. Eight seven maidens and seven men.

552
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: That was kind of the theme of the show. Like

553
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:53,200
they had me come in and I walked in and

554
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,720
I'm naked, and I just kind of lay on the

555
00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:58,559
couch thing there, and then these girls and the couple

556
00:27:58,559 --> 00:27:59,799
of guys they come in and they start doing this

557
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,759
performance in front of me. I'm just watching them, and

558
00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:06,519
then they're like trying to please me, and I'm like next, next,

559
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:10,279
and then finally they had my girlfriend come in and

560
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:12,160
then I performed with her, and then a couple of

561
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,880
other girls came in and it was like the whole show.

562
00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:16,079
Speaker 1: So this is like a sex show that people watch.

563
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,119
Like the audience doesn't and it doesn't partake.

564
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 2: No, they don't, they're not involved. They watch it's like

565
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,799
a ten minute show. Ten mainteen minute show. And then

566
00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:32,480
after that is when playtime starts. And technically, like as

567
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:36,200
a performer, you don't have to play with you don't

568
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,680
have to do anything with the guests. You're not required

569
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,519
to or anything like that, but you can if you

570
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:47,400
want to. But the guests aren't tested, so that's where,

571
00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:49,960
you know, things kind of get blurry. So you're like

572
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:52,279
you want to stick to just the performers because the

573
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:57,319
performers get tested to work together. So the parties are fun,

574
00:28:57,319 --> 00:28:59,519
it's just you know, you got to know, like who

575
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:00,559
is who?

576
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,599
Speaker 1: You ever have to like take an audience member and

577
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,759
be like you can't do that. I'm sorry.

578
00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny too, because like in the beginning when

579
00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:13,720
I when I was single and I started working for them.

580
00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:16,319
Like there was a lot of like hey come over here,

581
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,440
like hey, come over here, and I was like this

582
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,480
is kind of cool. And then after a while I

583
00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:22,799
was like, okay, I should stick to the performers. And

584
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:26,319
then now it's like because I am dating someone who

585
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:28,000
works there as well, you know what I mean, Like

586
00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:31,880
they're coming up and I'm like sorry, I'm like got

587
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,319
to get back to my girlfriend. Yeah. They're like, oh, okay.

588
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,359
Speaker 1: Which one's your girlfriend? She's the guy over there spanking.

589
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,559
She's the one I'm spaking that guy in the corner.

590
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, the one kicking the guy in the nuts.

591
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:49,839
Speaker 1: You know. So you won expos Mail Performer of the Year. Yes,

592
00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:52,279
How did that feel?

593
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,559
Speaker 2: I honestly was not expecting it at all. I was

594
00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:01,000
like honored to be nominated, but I wasn't and and

595
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,039
I was just sitting there and I'm like thinking like, yeah, Ricky,

596
00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:07,279
you know what I mean. I was thinking whoever. I

597
00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:08,880
was like, it's got to be someone else. And then

598
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,920
when they said my name, I was like, oh my god,

599
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:19,359
Like I didn't have anything prepared. So yeah, it was

600
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:25,319
it was kind of surreal, and it was like I

601
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:30,039
wish I kind of wish that I had something prepared,

602
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:35,599
and like I felt like there was like this like Sandra,

603
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:38,839
my agent, had messaged me and she was just like

604
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:41,440
make sure to like write out something like if you win.

605
00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:44,640
And I was thinking to myself like I didn't win,

606
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:46,720
And then when that happened, I was like, oh my god,

607
00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:47,519
Sandra was right.

608
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: And I was like I should have listened to Sandra,

609
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:51,599
because did you like come off the stage afterwards you

610
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,720
like fucking didn't think this person or this person or

611
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:55,640
this person that's always what happened, right.

612
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I felt like I my voice was kind

613
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,480
of shaky, like yeah, you know, and I was kind

614
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,839
of still in shock. Yeah. I was like, oh my god,

615
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,279
I didn't.

616
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,839
Speaker 1: But those are sort of like the best award nomination acceptances,

617
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,000
like people who aren't surprised, sorry, who are surprised, and

618
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:16,920
people who are like you can tell like emotionally that

619
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:19,160
it really means a lot to them, as opposed to,

620
00:31:20,119 --> 00:31:22,960
you know, someone who like goes up on stage like

621
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,680
I don't know, like Seth Gamble, I love you, but

622
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:27,039
you know what I mean, Like he goes up on

623
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,720
stage and just he's like award after an award, like

624
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:33,359
God damn it. I mean, I was fucking go up

625
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,759
these steps, you know. So it's kind of cool when

626
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:39,039
someone who like doesn't think they're gonna win wins and

627
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:40,519
then like gets up there they're like, oh my god,

628
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:43,319
I wasn't expecting this, like that that authenticity is lovely.

629
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, it was. It was definitely a shock.

630
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: What do you think keeps your keeps you going? Like

631
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:55,960
you have been around for a while, Like what keeps

632
00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:00,720
your longevity going? And you know, because people say that

633
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,119
the adult industry is hard on women, which is true,

634
00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:07,440
but it's actually very hard on men, like I have seen.

635
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:10,359
I've seen like a lot of men like really have

636
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,599
a hard time, especially as they get older and they

637
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:14,799
you know, I mean, we all know the story about

638
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:16,920
like guys who like take too much caverjack and then

639
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,559
like their penis stops working. Like but it's like, what

640
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,119
else are you going to do? You know what I mean?

641
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,319
You get into this cycle and then like do you

642
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,000
worry about like your longevity in the industry? Do you

643
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:31,319
have an exit plan? Like do you think about that stuff?

644
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: I do sometimes or I have thought about that, I

645
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,000
don't really have. I've been trying to formulate, you know,

646
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:47,119
a plan here of what I'm going to do afterwards.

647
00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:50,480
But I've kind of just let things kind of ride

648
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:52,599
for a while, and I'm like, oh, you're getting a

649
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,160
little older, Alex. You know, maybe it's time to think

650
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,440
about something different. And uh, I think what has helped

651
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:06,599
me though, stay working this long has honestly been I

652
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:09,720
think just just trying to be friends with everyone, to

653
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:12,799
be honest, Like, I feel like I got a lot

654
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:16,079
of my scenes throughout my career because I'm friends with

655
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:19,440
the people on set and it's not like a favoritism thing,

656
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,759
but it's just like be be chill.

657
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean as a director, like I know, I

658
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,240
like to hire people that I like working with because

659
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,519
a lot of times, especially on like these feature sets

660
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:30,519
which we'll we'll talk about some of your future work,

661
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,319
you can be on set for like sixteen hours.

662
00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:35,279
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, no, and no one wants to be on

663
00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:37,799
set with someone who's acting like a shithead. Yeah, in

664
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,759
the entire time. Yeah, I think just like being friendly

665
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:44,000
with everyone a lot of the times, Like when I started,

666
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:46,599
and I still do, I'm like, hey, guys, like I'm

667
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:49,000
just sitting here, I'm not a I can help you

668
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,000
take out the trash, you know, and they're like no, no, no, no,

669
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:53,759
like you're gonna hurt yourself. And I'm like gonna hurt myself, you.

670
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: Know, I'm like your penis to work that trash alone.

671
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And I'm like, guys, I could do something.

672
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,279
Speaker 1: My favorite thing. It's always like if I had to

673
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:03,160
like move a piece of furniture while I was shooting,

674
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,640
and like the male talent would always help me, and

675
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,039
it was in the middle of the scene, and so

676
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:09,559
there's just like this naked guy with like helping me

677
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:12,519
move furniture. But I always joked like I wanted to

678
00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:14,880
do like a calendar of like hot guys with a

679
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,800
boner like moving furniture because I have so much Like

680
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,239
that's happened to me so many times, be like, oh no,

681
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,320
let me help you. You can't move that by yourself.

682
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:29,639
Speaker 2: I would sell so well, oh god, I should totally

683
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:29,960
do that.

684
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:35,199
Speaker 1: So why do you think it's so hard for guys

685
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,039
to break into porn or what would your advice be

686
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:40,800
to guys who want to get into porn, because we

687
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,360
know there's a lot of you out there.

688
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 2: Well, if you want to get into porn, know that

689
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:51,159
it's not. It's fun. It is a fun job, but

690
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:55,840
it's not as like easy and fun as you think.

691
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,280
I guess, you know, sometimes it can be challenging and scary.

692
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:07,679
I think the main thing though, is like just be yourself,

693
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:14,599
be honest with everyone, be on time, be courteous, just

694
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:17,719
do the right thing, you know, don't get caught up

695
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,400
and us. I feel like a lot of guys, especially

696
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,199
when they first get in, then they start getting like

697
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,119
a taste of being a male performer and like they

698
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:30,760
do their first you know, foursome with three other girls

699
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,239
or something, and they're like, I'm the fucking man, and

700
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,960
it's like, okay, yeah, you were the man for an hour,

701
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,800
you know what I mean, And the come back to

702
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000
you because no one likes to be around that energy

703
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:42,440
for too long, you know what I mean. And if

704
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,559
you start acting like that, then people are going to

705
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:47,000
be like, do this guy is a douchebag. So I

706
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:54,559
think just being yourself, being professional and doing your job

707
00:35:54,719 --> 00:36:01,239
correctly and knowing what that entails, and then you'll do fine.

708
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: Also, you probably have to have a larger than average

709
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:04,880
size peece.

710
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's that's another thing.

711
00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:12,079
Speaker 1: Fortunately, you know, guys who are like five foot two,

712
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:18,000
don't generally join the NBA. Yeah, you know, doesn't mean

713
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:20,599
that there's anything wrong with you. You know, she's just

714
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:26,119
a freaking nature. Really when did you know actually growing

715
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:29,000
up that like you at a larger than average sized penis,

716
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:30,880
Like was it something that you've always known or was

717
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,960
this like moment where you were like at the school

718
00:36:33,039 --> 00:36:34,960
gym and someone was like, what the fuck is that?

719
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:42,159
Speaker 2: So watching porn when I was like younger, and I

720
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,840
was like, Oh, that's just normal, Like these dicks are normal,

721
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,480
and like my dick looks like that, so like that's it.

722
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:50,599
I just have a normal dick.

723
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,079
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's not like the opposite effect for you

724
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:54,800
that it does for most guys, because it makes most

725
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,719
guys feel inadequate. It made you feel normal.

726
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, I was like, oh, this is

727
00:36:58,199 --> 00:36:59,800
just a normal like I'm normal, Like everyone has a

728
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:00,599
dick like this, you know.

729
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

730
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:03,599
Speaker 2: I guess when I was in school, no one was

731
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:08,639
really walking the locker rooms naked, like everyone had their

732
00:37:08,639 --> 00:37:10,719
shorts on, and I guess you could, but no one

733
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,639
really showered there at the school gym and stuff, so

734
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,239
I didn't really like see a lot of dicks so

735
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,079
I was just like, this is just this is what

736
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:21,400
dicks looked like, right. And then when I lost my

737
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,440
virginity at eighteen, she had already had sex. She was

738
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,039
telling me that she was going to teach me a

739
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:29,000
few things, and I was like, all right, you know,

740
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:34,320
brought it over to my house. And but mind you,

741
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,079
my mom was working from home, so she's like my

742
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,440
room was like right across the hallway from hers. She's

743
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,039
in her room on the computer, like working, and I'm like, hey, mom,

744
00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:48,440
I'm like hanging out with a friend whatever.

745
00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: I come in.

746
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went in my room.

747
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: And then so I can did your mom hear the

748
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,760
scream from across the hall? You know?

749
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:04,039
Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking, because she was like, so we're fucking.

750
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:08,119
I remember she was like a little bit like uh

751
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,400
taken back, yeah, you know. And then as we're in

752
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,159
the middle of sex, she's like win seen and like

753
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:19,880
you know, kind of gasping and breathing hard and stuff,

754
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,840
and I'm like, are you okay? And then she's got

755
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,400
tears coming down her face, and I was like, did

756
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,239
I do something? You know what I mean? Because I'm

757
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,320
thinking like I did something wrong, like I hurt your

758
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,320
feelings or something. Yeah, you know, She's like you're fine,

759
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,199
and I was like, like, what's wrong? Did I say something?

760
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,360
She's like no, no, no, like everything's okay. And he It

761
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,159
was like maybe like an hour and a half of

762
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:46,280
it's like just back and forth, you know, in the

763
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,559
room there and then I didn't even come.

764
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 4: What you guys said sex for an hour and a half, yeah,

765
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:57,599
and there I was not really what I was so

766
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,000
I was such a little hornball, like we just we

767
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:01,880
just went at it.

768
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: But she was like this the entire time, you know,

769
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,719
and I was like it kind of felt weird for me.

770
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,840
And that's why I couldn't come, because I was just

771
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,800
like not turned on by the end of things. I

772
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,159
was just like I feel like, I'm like, you don't

773
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:15,920
want this, you know what I mean, Like like you're

774
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,719
not enjoying this. And I guess I just like kind

775
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:19,599
of hurt her.

776
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I asked she didn't want to admit it.

777
00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:26,039
Speaker 2: No, no, because she was supposed to teach me, if

778
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:28,280
you you know what I mean. And then I asked

779
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,480
my sister, who was you know, who could drive at

780
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:31,880
the time. I was like, hey, do you mind driving

781
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,360
me and my friend like drop her off. I dropped

782
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,360
her off and she's like walking, and she's like, why

783
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,280
is she walking like that?

784
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't know did she ever tell you afterwards like that,

785
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:50,719
did you guys ever talk about that me and the

786
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:52,599
you and the girl that you went to your virginity too?

787
00:39:52,880 --> 00:40:00,639
Speaker 2: So she wanted to start dating and I wasn't into

788
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:03,440
her like that, and I was just like no. And

789
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:07,920
then after that she started like talking shit about me,

790
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,039
and it just became like a whole big thing and

791
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:13,280
we just weren't friends anymore. After that, She's kind of weird.

792
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, but you guys never really get to talk

793
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,519
about Yeah, why she was.

794
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,559
Speaker 2: But walking funny? But after that I kind of I

795
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:26,639
was like huh And then uh, I think I like

796
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:30,039
another time too, like some friends were trying to My

797
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:33,239
friend was like, oh, let's play a prank on his

798
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,440
ex girlfriend. I don't know how this was a prank,

799
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,239
but it was like, let's send her a picture of

800
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,760
your dick or something like that. So anyways, I had

801
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,920
a picture of my dick and sent it to they

802
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,880
sent it to her, and then it ended up being

803
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,920
sent like to a whole bunch of other people too,

804
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,800
And so now like a bunch of people had a

805
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,320
picture of my dick, and then they were all making

806
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,000
comments and stuff, and then I kind of knew. I

807
00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:58,519
was like, oh, I kind of have a big dick.

808
00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:02,039
I was like, that's kind of I had no idea.

809
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: That's crazy that you didn't realize that till you were eighteen. Yeah, wow,

810
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:09,519
oh my god, that's good. You grew up humble.

811
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: I was a nerd. I had no opportunity to know

812
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:15,039
that my dick was big.

813
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: You know, Wow, that's great. It's like the ugly deckling

814
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,440
who grows up and then becomes beautiful. You know, like

815
00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:24,719
I think if you're like you grow up beautiful, I

816
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,440
don't know, you generally have sort of unsufferable personality, you know, right,

817
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:32,239
because you like things coming for you. Right, You didn't

818
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,039
know how gifted you were. So the porn industry is

819
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:39,880
facing obviously, like, well not just the porn industry, the

820
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:43,119
entire world is facing this wave of AI generated content, right,

821
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:47,079
Like AA has become a big part of everything everyone's workflow,

822
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,280
you know. Now AA models can spin up like photo

823
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:56,039
realistic images and videos that have become pretty like realistic. Yeah,

824
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,440
As an actual performer, what do you think about the

825
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,960
rise of a e content you see as an exciting

826
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,880
innovation or like a threat to human jobs.

827
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:13,159
Speaker 2: I think a little of both. Specifically, like in our industry,

828
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,599
I think it can help as far as like productivity

829
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:25,239
or productivity with with you know, getting messages answered and whatever,

830
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,679
voice notes and different things like that they can mimic

831
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,639
your voice and things that It sounds nice, you know,

832
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,360
to have an extra you to help out. But at

833
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,599
the same time too having an extra you, there's like

834
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:41,280
there's good mads to everything and they could take advantage

835
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:46,599
of that. And I feel like there are what I've

836
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:50,199
thought of was like, you know, if they if you

837
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,599
sign on with some company and they say, hey, we're

838
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:56,719
going to take photos of you, use your likeness and

839
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,679
this and that or whatever, and they kind of own

840
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,280
your image, then they can do anything they want with it.

841
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:07,400
And if there's something that you're not okay with, they're like, well,

842
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,800
we own this. Like I don't care, and now there's

843
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,920
pictures of you kissing a donkey or something out there,

844
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,920
you know, and I'm like, what the fuck is that?

845
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: You know?

846
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,639
Speaker 2: So I think it is it's a little scary, but

847
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:22,960
it's also there's goods and bads, And there's the potential

848
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:26,599
of it's like the whole idea of AI. You know,

849
00:43:26,639 --> 00:43:29,519
there's a potential that we could have some utopia in

850
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:33,199
the future, or there's the potential of terminator yeah, you know,

851
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,639
and they kill those all.

852
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. Yeah, I mean there's definitely good and

853
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,639
bad to it. I mean obviously, like I use like

854
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,880
some form of AI to help me, like with my workflow,

855
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,400
which I think kind of most people do nowadays, But

856
00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:52,320
I mean, yeah, it's it's also scary because there are

857
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,000
definitely jobs that are no longer going to exist because

858
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,199
of AI. And then you know, people will say like, oh, well,

859
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,159
AI is going to create new jobs? Like what new jobs? Yeah,

860
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,039
you know what I mean, Like I haven't heard a

861
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:06,119
lot of examples of like the new jobs it's going

862
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:09,079
to create, and is it that going to fulfill the

863
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,039
jobs lost?

864
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,079
Speaker 2: Like, well, what's what's kind of scary is like it

865
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:18,519
reminds me of you We're in that movie Wally, Yes,

866
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,400
and how everyone was kind of like, yes, they were

867
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,840
like fat, it was weird, but they didn't care.

868
00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: And then they didn't eat.

869
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: Food yeah, and they didn't have to do anything. Yeah,

870
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,239
Like the entire time they were just relaxing. Yeah, And

871
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,119
I was like, that's what I imagine is the case for

872
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,159
like cats and dogs and shit, you know what I mean,

873
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:38,079
Like they don't have jobs, they don't they just get

874
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:41,239
to they just relax. Yeah, And I'm like, oh, okay,

875
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,760
Like we feel like we have to do something to

876
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:47,000
contribute to society, to do things for each other and whatever.

877
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:49,280
But like, now, if we have something that could do

878
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,719
all of these jobs, do we even need jobs anymore?

879
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:53,519
You know?

880
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: And like, but then what are you going to do

881
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:55,960
with your life?

882
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,079
Speaker 2: That's where the scary thing is because we're in this

883
00:44:58,119 --> 00:45:03,400
transition right now, and the transition, we're still in this

884
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:08,320
idea that we need people to work for society, you know.

885
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,519
And it's like if we can somehow once we get

886
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:17,440
past that little hump and we don't need to really

887
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:20,559
work and we can just let all the robots work

888
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:23,960
or the AI do all the things, then, like they

889
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:29,920
do all the things that that that you know, they

890
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,280
do all the things like as far as growing our

891
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,760
plants for us and food and production of vehicles and

892
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,519
clothing and all this other stuff, and like we just

893
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,280
reap the benefits of everything. And I think there's like

894
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,760
a mindset that like we need to continue to work,

895
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,440
and we do kind of right now, but it's I

896
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,239
think we're striving. We're all striving to get to the

897
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,679
point of like not having to work.

898
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: I know. It's crazy though, because so I I mean,

899
00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:04,199
there have been studies that have shown that the key

900
00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:08,119
like to human happiness is generally a sense of purpose, right,

901
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,639
like feeling that what you do matters, and a lot

902
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,000
of times that is wrapped up in a job or

903
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:17,760
a career or something like that. This is also coming

904
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,480
from someone who's like a total type a personality workaholic,

905
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:24,159
so like you know who like is on my phone

906
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,440
too much and should probably spend more time with my

907
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,039
daughter and less time working. But like work is, I

908
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:32,119
mean works like an addiction for me. I'm not gonna lie.

909
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,119
So the idea of like taking that away from me,

910
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:35,639
I'm like, what the fuck am I going to do?

911
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,880
Like hang out with my kid more, spend more time

912
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:45,519
with my family, get a hobby like a sport. But yeah,

913
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:47,719
because and so it's so hard for me to like

914
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,639
tweak that idea and think of that as like my

915
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,679
new purpose because I have I feel so much fulfillment

916
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,039
and purpose and what I do. Also, you know, we

917
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:03,559
are a capitalistic society and it's all about like who

918
00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:06,039
could make the most money, then you're the winner. And

919
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:08,480
if we're no longer working and we're no longer you're

920
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,440
making money, well then we're kind of like a socialist society,

921
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:16,119
which most people think is a dirty word. And then

922
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:23,039
like how do you distribute like funds and resources? Does

923
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:24,840
everybody get the equal amount?

924
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,639
Speaker 2: Like yeah, well, and that's where I would think, like

925
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:33,199
it would just be easy to have enough for everyone

926
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:38,480
if you have something that like a robot that can

927
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:42,920
work indefinitely, so like whatever is enough to you is enough,

928
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:43,480
you know, so.

929
00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: Like enough that's also my problem, but that it really isn't.

930
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think but I think that's where we

931
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,239
run into corruption and all this other stuff because there's

932
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,199
some people that are like I need more, and I'm like,

933
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,840
do you need more or you just want more?

934
00:47:59,039 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

935
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,639
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, And I think everyone needs to know

936
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,079
like what they need and separate that from what they want.

937
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you're talking about a complete shift and

938
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,360
like the way that we think as a society, which

939
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:13,440
is not necessary, is not a bad thing, because I

940
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,159
think there's a lot of I mean, you know, we're

941
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:17,760
just seeing like the middle classes getting eradicated, and like

942
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:20,280
the richer getting richer and the poor are getting poor.

943
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:25,920
You know, so like we're very you know, lopsided right

944
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,840
now and it's just getting worse. Should we talk about

945
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:30,760
porn again?

946
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:31,599
Speaker 3: Yeah?

947
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:32,159
Speaker 2: Probably.

948
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,559
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I mean, so actually this would be

949
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:38,800
a good segue because it's these things that keep me

950
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,639
up at night now so much more that I'm a parent,

951
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:44,199
right because I have a daughter and I worry about

952
00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:48,159
her future. You are also a parent, So what is

953
00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:50,880
that like for you being in the industry and also

954
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,559
being a parent. Do you find like conflict in those

955
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:54,159
two roles.

956
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not like it's impossible to be

957
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:02,000
in this business and have a kid or anything, but

958
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:08,800
there are some challenges, you know, especially like meeting meaning

959
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,360
their their friends' parents or different people at the school.

960
00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: You know, they're like what do you do?

961
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,639
Speaker 2: And I'm like social media management, you know.

962
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, I die a photographer, what do you shoot? Influencers?

963
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like anything I can see.

964
00:49:24,639 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: Like nopeh but uh you've heard of.

965
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: But like yeah, so I feel like when it comes

966
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:39,599
to meeting people. Sometimes, you know, you can be judged,

967
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,760
especially when it comes to like your kid's friends, parents,

968
00:49:44,039 --> 00:49:49,800
or the school or anything like that. There's also weirdos,

969
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:52,760
like once they know that. As far as I love

970
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,920
my fans, not calling you guys weirdos, but there are

971
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,960
some of you out there that are weird that we'll

972
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,440
say some things that. It's like when you let your

973
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,440
daughter do point and I'm like, are you fucking like

974
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:06,039
my kids? Eight? Yeah, slap the shit out of you

975
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:08,000
for asking me that, Like that's crazy, you know, and

976
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:12,719
that's gross, you know. And my daughter doesn't know what

977
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,719
I do. Eventually, at some point when she's older, she will,

978
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:20,760
but she doesn't need to know right now. She doesn't ask.

979
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:24,239
If she does ask, I don't have to tell her

980
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,840
exactly what I'm doing. There's no need for that, you know.

981
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,760
But I'm able to provide for her. And she's like,

982
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:37,000
she's doing ballet, she's doing piano, learned Italian, she's got

983
00:50:37,039 --> 00:50:41,679
karate class, she's doing she's got everything she wants, you know,

984
00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:44,199
And I'm like, I'm able to do that because of

985
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:47,400
the job that I have. And so, you know, there's

986
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,880
good things there, but it's just it's hard. It's hard

987
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,039
because of other people and their stigma.

988
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, my daughter just started going to public school this year,

989
00:50:58,519 --> 00:51:02,599
and as far as I know, nobody knows. Yeah, it

990
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:05,760
could be wrong, but I'm definitely like I try to

991
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,320
keep that shit like under wraps. And sometimes I like

992
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,880
I go pick her up and I'll be like, fu,

993
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,360
I'm wearing a Browsers T shirt or something, right, And

994
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,039
I'm like, oh my god, what am I Because you

995
00:51:14,039 --> 00:51:17,559
don't see it, you forget right, Yeah, And I just

996
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:20,440
be so careful about that. But she has actually like

997
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,360
asked me about work. Yeah, and I just told her

998
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,440
that I make like movies for grown ups and she's like,

999
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,920
can I see I'm like, no, no, they're for grown ups.

1000
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,679
You know, maybe they're for grown ups are super boring. Yeah,

1001
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,119
when you're a grown up, you can see them.

1002
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's a great thing to say too, because

1003
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,480
it's like these are these are drinks for grown ups? Yeah,

1004
00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:42,280
you know, you can't have the drink for grown ups

1005
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,239
because that's a grown up drink. It's the same thing

1006
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,400
with these movies. These are grown up movies. And so like,

1007
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,199
when you're a grown up, then you can see the

1008
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,199
stuff but yeah, you know, and that's and it's not

1009
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,440
like if my kid asks about the beer that I'm

1010
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,960
drinking and I say it's something for grown ups. She

1011
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,760
doesn't continually ask about beer, you know what I mean.

1012
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,840
It's just it's just a question in the moment. I

1013
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,039
don't think that she's going to continually ask about the

1014
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:05,800
other thing as well.

1015
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think kids like in general until they hit puberty.

1016
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,679
I mean, I know this is the way for me

1017
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,519
because I grew up knowing what my parents did for

1018
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:14,880
a living. Yeah, but I didn't. I wasn't really interested

1019
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,320
until I hit puberty and then I started dealing the magazine.

1020
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,599
And you're like, that's what they had back then because

1021
00:52:19,639 --> 00:52:23,760
the Internet did not exist. But yeah, I mean, I think,

1022
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,400
especially when they're younger, they who cares what your parents

1023
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,239
do as long as they have money to buy you barbies?

1024
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,599
Speaker 2: I mean really, you know what I mean. I'm like,

1025
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:34,400
we're not poor? Are we like cool? Then that's fine.

1026
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,559
You know, barely even knew my parents real name. You

1027
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:40,679
know what I mean. You're like, aren't you just mom?

1028
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:41,559
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1029
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,159
Speaker 2: Really that's your name.

1030
00:52:43,679 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: I know all of Violet, all of Violet's of friends

1031
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,119
call me Violet's mom. I don't have a name. It's

1032
00:52:49,199 --> 00:52:53,159
Violet mom. Yeah, exactly, Violot's mom. Violet mom. My name

1033
00:52:53,199 --> 00:52:55,400
is Holly, okay, Violet's mom.

1034
00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1035
00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:02,079
Speaker 1: Cookie. I'm like, so, you're launching a new series called

1036
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:06,360
The Alex Jones Adventure Show on YouTube. Yeah, and OnlyFans

1037
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,599
where you bring bellow performers along on fun adventures. What

1038
00:53:09,639 --> 00:53:11,559
can you tell us about this project?

1039
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: So it's still kind of in the early stages, so

1040
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,880
we're like just getting done with editing the first episode.

1041
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,119
But yeah, we I don't want to give anything away,

1042
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:24,840
but we had Kazuomi on on the first one there

1043
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:30,440
and a couple of our other friends. Uh, and we

1044
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,960
I'm not really I liked I like to do physical

1045
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:37,719
activities and things and work out and stuff, but I

1046
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,440
haven't really done many things that you would say are adventurous.

1047
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,559
I guess because I'm kind of it's kind of scary,

1048
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:48,039
I guess, you know, and I'm nervous about doing certain things.

1049
00:53:48,039 --> 00:53:50,760
I'm like a helicopter parent. My daughter's going around like

1050
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,199
what was So you're.

1051
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:55,039
Speaker 1: The helicopter parent, so my husband's the helicopter parents. I'm

1052
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:58,880
just like, you're fine, I'll trust you, I'm no, we

1053
00:53:58,920 --> 00:53:59,920
don't walk into the street.

1054
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 2: And so I'm that kind of way with myself. So

1055
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,599
I'm like, oh, no, this is this is sketchy. I'm

1056
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:07,360
going to fall. And they're like, guy, it's fine. I'm

1057
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,800
like no, no, no, And so they're getting me out

1058
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,400
of my comfort shell or my comfort zone, and we're

1059
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,920
doing different things that I normally want to do. So

1060
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,559
we went on this like crazy. It was like a

1061
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,800
five or six mile hike and it was like so

1062
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:29,079
incredibly hot. And my friend who was who's directing it

1063
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:33,440
and filming it as well, he kind of he's like

1064
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,039
a Shirpa. He was like doing work in Morocco and

1065
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,440
different places, and he like just it's got these legs

1066
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,039
of steel. He could just walk up mountains. So we're

1067
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,480
like going, he just kind of took off and like

1068
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:48,360
he had the water and so like and now we're

1069
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,239
just like dehydrated, like walking and lost on this trail

1070
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,400
and there's like footage of just me and my friend

1071
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,480
kind of lost, me get attacked by bees and and

1072
00:54:57,519 --> 00:54:59,880
I'm like thirsty the entire time when we get to

1073
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,119
the top, and then we went paragliding off the mountain

1074
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,280
and so there's all these just different random things that

1075
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:06,719
we're doing.

1076
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: We paragliding. I don't think I could do that.

1077
00:55:10,159 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 2: No, it was it was kind of it's kind of scary.

1078
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,760
You have to like literally run and just run off

1079
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,519
the cliff. Yeah, you just run off the side of

1080
00:55:17,519 --> 00:55:20,679
the mountain and keep running. They said, keep running, like

1081
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,599
keep your legs going off the.

1082
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: Off and die.

1083
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,599
Speaker 2: He's like he was like, yeah, you'll just pull me

1084
00:55:28,639 --> 00:55:31,079
down and you'll kill his bull. I was like, oh ship,

1085
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,960
but we were so incredibly high in the air. The

1086
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:40,000
guy starts doing flips. He told me, he goes, he goes,

1087
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:42,400
so you're Alex, right, you're the You're the star of

1088
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,199
the show. And I'm like, yeah, yes, and he's like

1089
00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:47,840
you're not gonna freak out right, And I'm like no.

1090
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,800
And then he's like all right, here we go and

1091
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,880
he pulls on one of the reins and we flipped

1092
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,119
upside down, like the parachutes beneath us now and like

1093
00:55:56,159 --> 00:55:58,880
we're up here, and we did like four of these,

1094
00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:03,320
and we're refalling towards the earth and the entire and

1095
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,559
like the the harness is like crushing my nuts. I

1096
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,400
felt that in my stomach. I felt like I was

1097
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,719
gonna puke, you know, in the entire and he's like

1098
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:16,199
you all right, I'm like but but yeah. So that's

1099
00:56:16,679 --> 00:56:21,360
the first episode and we're planning on doing a lot more.

1100
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,840
But the the vibe that we're trying to get across

1101
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,360
for the show is we want to talk about the environment.

1102
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,119
So the first one, where we're doing these hikes and

1103
00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:32,719
we're in the heat and everything, we're talking about the

1104
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:37,920
fires in California and Los Angeles and the air pollution

1105
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:41,880
quality there. And then we also want to do ones

1106
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,199
at the beach doing like snorkeling and different things, and

1107
00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:47,000
then talk about how you can clean up the trash

1108
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:49,000
and you know, conservation and stuff like that.

1109
00:56:49,039 --> 00:56:52,639
Speaker 1: So oh cool. Yeah, I got a humanitarian mission with it. Yeah,

1110
00:56:52,920 --> 00:57:00,000
I love that. So besides this YouTube series, was there anything, Well,

1111
00:57:00,119 --> 00:57:02,719
let's let's start with this year. What did you do

1112
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,719
this year that like you're the most proud of. Like,

1113
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,159
if there's someone who's watching and maybe they want to

1114
00:57:08,159 --> 00:57:11,039
see more of your work, like where would you where

1115
00:57:11,039 --> 00:57:12,880
would you push them? Any big movies that you did

1116
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,400
this year, Scenes that you were really excited about.

1117
00:57:15,679 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: I honestly slowed down this year. Okay, I think last

1118
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,480
year I went pretty hard and that's what got me

1119
00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:22,960
the award.

1120
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah you did that big digital playground movie.

1121
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. There was a couple of them actually, but

1122
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,719
I think the one being the police officer at the

1123
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,199
Dirty Cop Dirty Cops, right.

1124
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,039
Speaker 1: The one that I saw footage for was.

1125
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 2: The army one, the yeah where I was like a

1126
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:43,440
doctor and shri was No. Wasn't there another one with

1127
00:57:43,679 --> 00:57:45,840
oh I know what you're talking when I was a

1128
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:46,239
bad guy.

1129
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: You're a bad guy. Yeah, yeahous yeah, yeah guy.

1130
00:57:50,199 --> 00:57:52,519
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. That was That was another one that

1131
00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:55,000
was funny too because Ricky was like, you're going to

1132
00:57:55,079 --> 00:57:58,000
be a bad guy and I was like, really, I'm

1133
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:00,719
like I'm usually the good guy. I'm like, that's fucking cool.

1134
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: Like it was like, what good, You're a good bad guy?

1135
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: Thank you. I was kind of trying the channel my

1136
00:58:05,519 --> 00:58:07,800
Denzel Washington training day type of thing, you know what

1137
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,280
I mean. I was like, this is the first time

1138
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,239
I got'd be a bad guy.

1139
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1140
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: And it looks so funny too because they had a

1141
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:16,480
picture with like the whole cast afterwards, and I had

1142
00:58:16,519 --> 00:58:20,480
these I had the handcuffs on Kira's holding my handcuffs

1143
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:22,840
and stuff, and we're all in a line and I

1144
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,559
just looked so much bigger than everyone because I'm so tall.

1145
00:58:26,679 --> 00:58:28,559
I just looks so much bigger than everyone in the

1146
00:58:28,599 --> 00:58:31,400
lineup that it looked like these like army men had

1147
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,119
come in and like captured a giant or something like

1148
00:58:34,119 --> 00:58:37,000
I was a different species and they're like we got them.

1149
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,199
Speaker 1: But it was like to the zoo that travels when

1150
00:58:40,239 --> 00:58:41,920
you like have the big guy, like the.

1151
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:48,239
Speaker 2: Little little ropes tied me up. That's what it felt like.

1152
00:58:49,199 --> 00:58:53,480
Oh my god, how tall are you? Six'? FIVE i

1153
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:55,920
think six four to six fives somewhere in. There, okay

1154
00:58:56,079 --> 00:58:58,119
it's not, THAT i mean there's Other.

1155
00:58:58,199 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: Do you like being? Taller is it kind of? Panny?

1156
00:59:00,159 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: SOMETIMES i like it. Now it was a pain in

1157
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,199
the ass WHEN i was younger BECAUSE i felt like a, freak,

1158
00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:12,000
yeah you, Know AND i felt like there were like

1159
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:14,000
easy jokes that people would be, like why are you

1160
00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:16,119
hanging out with the people younger than You're like would

1161
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:17,960
you get held? Back And i'm, like, no we're the same,

1162
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:23,719
age damn, it you, know Like i'm just. Bigger, yeah all.

1163
00:59:23,679 --> 00:59:28,239
Speaker 1: Right, well last question for. You you know we're coming

1164
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,480
up on this might Actually i'm actually not sure. YET

1165
00:59:31,519 --> 00:59:33,280
i think this is going to come out in twenty twenty.

1166
00:59:33,639 --> 00:59:35,719
Six but either, way we're almost at the end of the.

1167
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,559
Year so any big plans for twenty twenty six or

1168
00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:39,920
do you know what that year is going to hold?

1169
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:40,840
YET i really.

1170
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:46,039
Speaker 2: DON'T i really don't. KNOW i Am i'm a little

1171
00:59:46,039 --> 00:59:49,280
over a year into my relationship with my. Girlfriend things

1172
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are getting a little, closer which has been, exciting you,

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Know So i'm excited about. That BUT i am also

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excited about how port if she's been for you, know

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for me and my performances and everything like. That so

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she really wants me to like do well this. Year she's,

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like you, know this year is going to be better

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than last, year and So i'm just really looking forward

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to like jumping back into shooting BECAUSE i felt LIKE

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i took a break this. Year so twenty twenty, six

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let you see me get an award. Again.

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Speaker 1: YEAH i love. That, Well, alex thank you so much

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for coming. On i'm so glad THAT i finally got you.

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Here we do have some questions from Some patreon members

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thirty one questions from one in. Particular, sorry we do

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all those, well we're going to get some, though which

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we're going to do in a separate. Segment but in the,

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meantime can you tell everyone where they can find you?

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Speaker 2: Online you guys can find me On instagram At Alex

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jones five point. Zero i'm also On twitter or x

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AT A jones. XXX i have a. TikTok it's very.

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News i'm still getting to used to, that but it's

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at the Other Alex. Jones and, YEAH i don't have

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a YouTube, yet but the YouTube's coming that will be

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with My Alex Jones adventure, show so stay tuned for.

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Speaker 4: That.

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Speaker 1: Cool and then of course you guys can find me

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On instagram and on x At Holly. Randall i'm also

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on TikTok Holly randall seventy. Eight i'm pretty, sure is? It?

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Anyways go To holly links dot com for access to

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all of my, platforms and of, course if you're a

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member of My, patreon not only are you supporting this,

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show but you're getting access to bonus features like THE

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q AND. A we're going to do these things streamed

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live and so much. More go To patreon dot com

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Slash Holly Randall. Unfiltered thank you guys so much for joining.

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Us And i'll see you on the next. One

