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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big New Insider. Dick Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday edition of our program. And maybe we should be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised we have a Tuesday show because this time of

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<v Speaker 1>year it seems like there's so many basketball games on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there's plenty tonight anyway. But Kentucky plays tomorrow night

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<v Speaker 1>against Colgate. That's an eight o'clock start, so that means

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<v Speaker 1>our coverage on the network will begin at six thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>local coverage at five thirty. UK women played last night.

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<v Speaker 1>They destroyed Queens, which is not from New York. Queens

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<v Speaker 1>is actually a program that had been Division two moved

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<v Speaker 1>up to D one. It's down in Charlotte and if

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen any of the scores from any team D

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<v Speaker 1>one teams playing Queens these days, it gets ugly, and

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<v Speaker 1>it did last night for the visiting team Kentucky. Rompt

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<v Speaker 1>we'll tell you a little bit more about that in just

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, but that means the UK women are off

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<v Speaker 1>until Saturday. The men again tomorrow night, then Louisville on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and they should beat Colgate. You wonder are they looking ahead?

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<v Speaker 1>I know fans are, but this is a roster with

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of exceptions full of kids who have never

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<v Speaker 1>experienced uku of l All they know is what the

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<v Speaker 1>people around them have said. Hey, you got to be Louisville.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. And these guys do go to class. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure they've heard it from people in their classes. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you got Louisville coming up. Got to beat them. But

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know the emotions yet. They might by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the game. But you know, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>in the YOUM Center start to say Freedom Hall. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not the Young Center. It's in Upperena. So this will

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<v Speaker 1>feel like another home game, but there will be an

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<v Speaker 1>additional level I think of not so much stress in Rupperina,

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<v Speaker 1>but shall we say spirit because how much the fans

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<v Speaker 1>want to win this game. But remember this now. You

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<v Speaker 1>know UK fans didn't like Denny Crump because Denny was

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<v Speaker 1>always poking it at the Wildcats in the program and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Bun till they became friends and started doing that

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<v Speaker 1>radio show together. But remember when Denny Crumb got here

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<v Speaker 1>in the early seventies, took a team right away to

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<v Speaker 1>the final four, and he signed a freshman class that

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy talented, just as Joe b had. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the super Kittens Kevin Grievy and Jimmy Dan and Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Hale and Mike Flinn, all those guys. Well, he signed

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<v Speaker 1>a class Crumb did with Junior Bridgeman and Alan Murphy.

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<v Speaker 1>Junior Bridgeman still is my all time favorite UFL player,

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<v Speaker 1>Great great player, great man. But anyhow, Denny said, I

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<v Speaker 1>take my class over those guys any day, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And of course he was pushing like the play Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>although I remember after a while Kentucky was thumping Louisville regularly,

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<v Speaker 1>and Denny at one point wondered, was this game worth

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<v Speaker 1>playing anymore? It's like, be careful what you wish for.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, these Kentucky players now, they have no feel

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<v Speaker 1>for that. But that's okay. They'll know by game time

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<v Speaker 1>how much it means. And their coach, Mark Pope, lived it,

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<v Speaker 1>loved it, and he'll explain it to them. But until

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<v Speaker 1>you experience it, and sadly some of these guys will

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<v Speaker 1>only get to experience at once, you just don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But last night on his radio show, talking to Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Leach and somebody called in to talk about the u

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<v Speaker 1>of L game, Mark Pope shared a story. I had

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<v Speaker 1>never heard this. I know what this game meant to

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<v Speaker 1>mister Wildcat, Bill Kyteley and eventually to Rick Patino and

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<v Speaker 1>Toby Smith and really anybody who coached here. And he

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<v Speaker 1>had Eddie said with his comment called him a little brother.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that still resonates with U of L fans

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<v Speaker 1>and some UK fans pull it out at times. But

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<v Speaker 1>last night Pope talked about a moment that he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>hear yet, but it was basically the window for Rick

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<v Speaker 1>Patino into this world of UK versus U of L basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>and he shared it with Tom Leech and again, I

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<v Speaker 1>never heard this story. It's terrific.

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<v Speaker 2>Coach Patino has shared this story many times, and he

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<v Speaker 2>shared it with me actually as he was recruiting me,

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<v Speaker 2>just talking about what Kentucky was. But the great Bill Kiteley,

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<v Speaker 2>one of won the best ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Was.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he welcomed Coach Patino here and was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of one of Coach PE's trusted allies from day one

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<v Speaker 2>when Coach Patino first got here to Kentucky, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what they were, five or six or seven

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<v Speaker 2>games of the season, and they had a routine where

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<v Speaker 2>when coach sent the players out of the locker room

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<v Speaker 2>the last time before the game, Bill kite would walk

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<v Speaker 2>in and make sure the coach had everything he needed

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<v Speaker 2>and then they would walk out on.

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<v Speaker 3>The floor together.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this game five, six, seven, eight, somewhere early

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<v Speaker 2>in the season, and and Coach p sends the team

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<v Speaker 2>out and he's like, there's no Bill Kitely. Where is

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Kiteley? And so coach is walking around the locker,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, man, we gotta go. He looks out in

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<v Speaker 2>the hall. He finally goes back in the showers, sees

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<v Speaker 2>the great mister Wildcat Bill just.

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<v Speaker 3>Sitting on the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>He's dressed in his suit. He's sitting on the floor,

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<v Speaker 2>tears streaming out his face, with an open bottle of

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<v Speaker 2>Urban in his arms, just feeling the stress and the

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<v Speaker 2>pressure of this Kentucky Louisville game. And that's when Coach

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<v Speaker 2>Patino was like, Okay, this is different, Like this just

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<v Speaker 2>means more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the s SEC doesn't have total DIBs on that

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<v Speaker 1>come and it just does mean more. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Patino and Kylie, he became so close. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when Rick got here and there were people looking for

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<v Speaker 1>ways to pick at him. They were saying, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to get rid of Bill Kiteley never the case.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will tell you this the first time Rick

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<v Speaker 1>Pattino had to come out to WKYT to shoot his

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<v Speaker 1>TV show. This is before he made us start coming

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<v Speaker 1>to his office to shoot the show. But he came

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<v Speaker 1>out to KYT and got on the wrong road, you

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<v Speaker 1>know the roads a lead out of town. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he got on Paris Pike. Somebody said, yeah, get on

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<v Speaker 1>this road and just keep going instead of Winchester Road.

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<v Speaker 1>He ends up on Paris Pike and got way lost.

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<v Speaker 1>They finally, I'm as late, but we finally got the

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<v Speaker 1>show done. From that point on, Bill Kittee drove him

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<v Speaker 1>to the TV station. And you might recall at one

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<v Speaker 1>point Bettino bought a new pickup truck for Bill Kytee.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably why. But oh Kitlee just love beating Louisville.

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<v Speaker 1>Hated the notion of losing to Louisville. And I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>heard Tubby Smith do impressions of anybody, but more than

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<v Speaker 1>once I heard Tubby kind of chuckling about Bill Kitely's

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<v Speaker 1>obsession with Louisville, and Tubby would start doing his Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Kittee impression, and he started going, you know you got

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<v Speaker 1>win this one, Tubby, Oh boy, you got one. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta win this one. You know, I'm doing Tubby doing Kylie.

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<v Speaker 1>And Tubby's wasn't any good, and neither was mine, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was so funny. And Tubby said, like, I need

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<v Speaker 1>more pressure, He said, I got all the fans on me,

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Nation, and now Bill Kyee, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>win this one more, you know. So I just loved

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<v Speaker 1>that moment last night, and Tubby loved Bill Kye as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I had never talked to Bill about uo. L never

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<v Speaker 1>heard much about it. But here's the thing, and more

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<v Speaker 1>than one person told me, you need to do a

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<v Speaker 1>documentary on Bill Kiteley. And I can tell you I

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<v Speaker 1>and dozens and dozens of people asked Bill Kyee through

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<v Speaker 1>the years for an interview, and I know he probably,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, I'm certain he did. I didn't do anything

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<v Speaker 1>on him, as you know, the guy who hands out

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<v Speaker 1>the towels and the sneakers. But that's because I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>so much more, you know, I wanted to know so

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<v Speaker 1>much about Bill and his relationship with the coaches. I

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<v Speaker 1>was nosy, you know, the players. He was the father

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<v Speaker 1>confessor to them, how he got them through tough moments

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<v Speaker 1>in their lives, both the players and the coaches, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was not going to share that. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>made that clear he was never going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. So I respected that and I

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<v Speaker 1>quit asking. But man, you could tell how much he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted and just I would look at him every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then during a Louisville game and you could see

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure all over his face. But I was so

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<v Speaker 1>happy Mark Pope shared that story with him about him

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<v Speaker 1>last night. Coming up tonight on the show, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from Tim Couch a conversation I had with

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<v Speaker 1>him back in the fall. He is in Vegas as

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<v Speaker 1>we speak, getting ready to be inducted formally into the

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<v Speaker 1>College Football Hall of Fame. Was notified earlier this calendar year,

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<v Speaker 1>and then UK honored him on the field pregame back

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<v Speaker 1>in September while the season was young, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to get him on the show and had

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<v Speaker 1>a nice conversation with Tim. So we'll hear from him

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<v Speaker 1>coming up in hour number two. At the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the hour, Jimmy Diykes will join us. Jimmy worked the

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<v Speaker 1>TV game Kentucky Gonzaga, as you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you listening to radio, I did too. I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>both and it was so great because Jimmy did a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous job working with John Shamby. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever heard John Shabby. He's a great baseball announcer.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe he's now the regular voice of the Chicago Cubs.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's really talented. I thought he and Jimmy were

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<v Speaker 1>a great team. And of course Tom and Jack did

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible job. And when we get the melt, we

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<v Speaker 1>will share that with you. The stretch call for Kentucky Gonzaga,

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<v Speaker 1>but to hear Gibvens talk about Kentucky dropping into a

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<v Speaker 1>one to three one that was so much fun, and

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<v Speaker 1>hear Jack talk about the comeback. But we'll hear from

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy at the bottom of the hour. A former UK

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<v Speaker 1>assistant coach now an analyst. Those of you who don't

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<v Speaker 1>like him, I don't get it because he understands UK

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<v Speaker 1>basketball better than any analyst working today for obvious reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>David Siske will join us as well from Catch Illustrated

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Rivals Network. We'll hear from him and

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<v Speaker 1>he'll break down Kentucky and Zaga and talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>he saw. Should Bill Belichick be the next head coach

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<v Speaker 1>in North Carolina, that would be intriguing. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot like should Parcels or what if Parcells had

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<v Speaker 1>come here? I think it would have been. It'd be

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<v Speaker 1>more of a challenge with Belichick, you know, because you

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<v Speaker 1>got to be that ambassador in North Carolina. Not so

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<v Speaker 1>much for football's basketball, but you still have to create

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<v Speaker 1>and work on that link with the fans. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Belichick would have any interest in doing that, but

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<v Speaker 1>he built a heck of a program, hire a heck

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<v Speaker 1>of a staff. Imagine recruiting he could do. But now

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<v Speaker 1>another name evidently has entered the picture. Within all the speculation,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Wilkes, former head coach of the Arizona Cardinals and

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<v Speaker 1>former head coach of the Carolina Panthers, wasn't successful, but evidently,

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<v Speaker 1>according to On three Sports, he interviewed for the head

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<v Speaker 1>coaching job, So that just made things more interesting. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up on Thursday, the volleyball wild Cats will take their

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<v Speaker 1>next step in the NCAA Tournament. They play Missouri, a

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<v Speaker 1>team they've already beaten twice in the SEC. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>Missouri was the team Kentucky beat to close out the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season and clinch out right another SEC championship. Up next,

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<v Speaker 1>over the Kentucky again Zaga game that he worked up

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen for Amelia Hassett, including one thousand career points. She

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<v Speaker 1>and after the game said she's glad she did.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up this Saturday, Thursday, it's Kentucky volleyball Wildcats taking

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<v Speaker 1>on Missouri, trying to beat that team for the third

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<v Speaker 1>time this year and move into the Elite eight. So

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<v Speaker 1>in the early going lost them all. But after the

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that that rough schedule early, which of course

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<v Speaker 1>Those early lumps are paying off now, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think at the beginning of the year we were just

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<v Speaker 5>and I think throughout the season we have done that

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<v Speaker 5>wrong times. And I think going into this tournament and

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<v Speaker 5>going into the next final stretch, I think we really

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<v Speaker 1>That's Brooklyn Delay, the SEC Player of the Year, are

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<v Speaker 1>All Conference teammate emmcgrom, the Kentucky setter, had similar thoughts

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<v Speaker 6>The reason that we play the tough non conference schedule

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<v Speaker 6>from those games. We learned how to battle, we learned

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<v Speaker 6>the whole season. We've just been going up and up,

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<v Speaker 6>that edge that we've been talking about. We've got the greatness.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think we're ready and we're just going to

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<v Speaker 1>Emma Groham sitting next to Brooklyn Delay when she made

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<v Speaker 1>that comment, which is kind of fitting because a couple

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<v Speaker 1>the Year and coincidentally the one who won it. Last

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<v Speaker 1>you got Emma Grome one year, a former Wildcat the next,

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<v Speaker 1>and in Brooklyn Delay this season and Craig Skinner talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Emma, who became the all time assists leader in

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<v Speaker 1>the record holder now. Just an incredible mark for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who's been an All American every season in Kentucky. She'll

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<v Speaker 1>be one again this year. Craig Skinner talked about just

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<v Speaker 7>few people have. But the joy and the passion and

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<v Speaker 7>the work ethic that she has is different because every

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<v Speaker 7>She's got an edge to her that you know allows

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<v Speaker 7>her to compete under pressure. And you know, I think

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<v Speaker 7>when you have that and the player that continually wants

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<v Speaker 7>to be better, it motivates others around you to be better.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, certainly proud of her growth, and you

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<v Speaker 7>know the best is yet to come.

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<v Speaker 1>And if indeed that is the case, that's good news

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<v Speaker 1>for the Wildcats and their fans because next up to Missouri,

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<v Speaker 1>a tough team, hard to beat, a team, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>more than a couple of times in one year. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to happen at one o'clock. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>likely will get Pittsburgh, which is not just the number

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<v Speaker 1>one seed in the region, but the number one seed

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<v Speaker 1>in the entire tournament. Before we go to break, a

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<v Speaker 1>Happy birthday to my buddy Cameron Mills, part of our

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<v Speaker 1>crew on the UK Radio Network coverage of Kentucky basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>You know him from this shot for the time.

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<v Speaker 8>Sit down, Mills goodly. They've been waiting on it.

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<v Speaker 7>That's his first basket of the tournament, Cameron Mills.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course that's the TV call because we're not

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<v Speaker 1>So Happy birthday to my buddy Cameron Mills, who always

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<v Speaker 1>reminds people it was Scott Paget's three pointer that put

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky ahead to stay. But that is the shot heard

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<v Speaker 1>round the Bluegrass and you've seen the picture in the

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<v Speaker 1>video dozens of times. Coming up next Jimmy Dike's ESPN analysts.

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<v Speaker 1>He called Kentucky gun Zaga. Next on the Big Boon

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<v Speaker 1>Cider six thirty w l A p Welcome back joining

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<v Speaker 1>us on our celebrity Hoighline is a longtime friend of

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<v Speaker 1>the show and a guy I really enjoy his work.

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Dike's color analyst. He worked Kentucky and Gonzaga for ESPN.

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<v Speaker 1>He and John Shambi, Uh Saturday night and Jimmy, I

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<v Speaker 1>know that was a long trip out there for you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You were rewarded with one heck of a game, weren't you.

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<v Speaker 9>Goy He's one of the one of the great games

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<v Speaker 9>so far this year. And uh, you know, anytime you

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<v Speaker 9>the great national brands out there, obviously Kentucky, but don

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<v Speaker 9>Zaga is also you know, one of the one of

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<v Speaker 9>the strongest brands in the college game right now, you

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<v Speaker 9>jump on the chance. And did delivered And it didn't.

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<v Speaker 9>It did not look like at halftime it was going

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<v Speaker 9>to deliver it because our producers, I mean the halftime,

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<v Speaker 9>ourdu literally asked me to me, what do you see

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<v Speaker 9>anything changing this game? I said, no, oh, like, I

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<v Speaker 9>didn't see any I saw nothing in the first half.

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<v Speaker 9>That said, Kentucky has an answer for this, but uh man,

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<v Speaker 9>they did, and man, what a what a great game

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<v Speaker 9>to watch. I'm sure from the second half through that overtime.

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<v Speaker 1>just quickly give me I don't know that we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>in a while, and I'm just curious about your reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>and I follow you on Twitter, of course, But when

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky hired Pope, when all this happened and he had

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<v Speaker 1>to cobble together a team like a jigsaw puzzle, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what was your reaction? Because I always talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you know, of all the analysts out there,

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<v Speaker 1>of course you know Kentucky better than anybody because you've

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<v Speaker 1>what was your what was your response when all this

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, well, you know, because you guys are very aware

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<v Speaker 9>of the names that were thrown around, and a kind

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<v Speaker 9>of out out of left field comes Mark Popees and

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<v Speaker 9>next of you're like, hump, that's an interest seen higher.

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<v Speaker 9>But then as the twenty four hour period went by,

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<v Speaker 9>and I kind of dug into to what he's done

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<v Speaker 9>and started listening to all the things that he understood

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<v Speaker 9>about Kentucky basketball and like big Blue Nation. And within

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<v Speaker 9>twenty four hours, that's think flip man, how they went

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<v Speaker 9>from this is not a great hire to we hired

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<v Speaker 9>the guy that's going to put us back on the

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<v Speaker 9>map and then so far, so good. They they have

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<v Speaker 9>they've been right, and you know he was. He's exactly

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<v Speaker 9>what Kentucky needed right now. The guy that comes in

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<v Speaker 9>and and completely gets the value that Kentucky Jersey, the ure,

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<v Speaker 9>that team's the state, the expectations. He hasn't ran from it.

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<v Speaker 9>He knows the pressure. But there's it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 9>perfect fit, you know, for a for a Kentucky program

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<v Speaker 9>that is desperate to get back to being who Kentucky

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<v Speaker 9>basketball is supposed to be. And so far they have

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think of what he runs and how

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<v Speaker 9>is a great starting point. You know, they understand exactly

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<v Speaker 9>how they're supposed to play. If you're gonna shoot thirty

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<v Speaker 9>or more three point shots the game, then you have

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<v Speaker 9>to make ten or eleven the game to make it

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<v Speaker 9>pay off. And they have not shot the ball well

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<v Speaker 9>over the last three games. Now. They they delivered in

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<v Speaker 9>the second half against Gonzaga, but more importantly, that offense

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<v Speaker 9>it during the game. You don't jump shoot your way

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<v Speaker 9>back from sixteen downing. It's the top ten team basically

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<v Speaker 9>on their floor right and Mark started calling play. Then

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<v Speaker 9>he went heavily with Andrew Carr and then when Chris

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<v Speaker 9>went out, it kind of worked out for their benefit

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<v Speaker 9>because Kentucky became bigger on both ends of the floor,

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<v Speaker 9>and now the matchup problem that was really something for

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<v Speaker 9>Gonzaga to have to work to on both ends. And

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<v Speaker 9>you know, Mark does what a great coach does. You've

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<v Speaker 9>got to find a way to change the game. And

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<v Speaker 9>he changed the game with that one three one zone

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<v Speaker 9>that it really just it was a one three one

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<v Speaker 9>the ball got blowed the free throw line then went Manda. Man,

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<v Speaker 9>but it's completely through Gonzaga off of their rhythm and

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like in the first half, Jimmy Gonzaga was

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<v Speaker 9>Way to you, no doubt, Man, that was the you know,

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<v Speaker 9>that was the blueprint watching the Clemson films. Yeah, from

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<v Speaker 9>Bike from Gonzaga's standpoint was We're just gonna be physical

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<v Speaker 9>these guys and blow up all that dribble hand off

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<v Speaker 9>and it worked. It worked to a sixteen point lead,

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<v Speaker 9>and Gonzagua was doing anything they wanted, especially off that

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<v Speaker 9>ball screen action with nem Hart and the Grahamy k.

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<v Speaker 9>Kentucky had no answer for it. But man, the things

419
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<v Speaker 9>changed within that first two minutes of this of the

420
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<v Speaker 9>second half. And because Gonzaga is really good, I mean,

421
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<v Speaker 9>they're ranked inside the twelve and this week's ap pole.

422
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<v Speaker 9>I mentioned that during the game, But this week's ap pole,

423
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<v Speaker 9>your national champion is somewhere within that top twelve. It's

424
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<v Speaker 9>been that way for twenty straight years. And it's not

425
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<v Speaker 9>a guarantee but about as close to a guarantee as

426
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<v Speaker 9>we have in the college game predicting a national champion.

427
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<v Speaker 9>And thankfully for Kentucky fans and gonzagab both they're both

428
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<v Speaker 9>inside that top twelve this week in college basketball.

429
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<v Speaker 1>You talked about it on the air, you mentioned it

430
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<v Speaker 1>a minute ago. But Mark Pope started calling plays and

431
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<v Speaker 1>changed the game a little bit. Obviously going to Andrew Carr,

432
00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:35.640
<v Speaker 1>and he tried to get a little bit done in

433
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<v Speaker 1>the first half, but I felt like he just kind of,

434
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<v Speaker 1>as the expression goes boat his neck. He just went

435
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<v Speaker 1>to work, didn't he in the second half?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and yeah, he had the game. That's kind of

437
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<v Speaker 9>hard to it's it's kind of hard to defend. He's

438
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<v Speaker 9>I'm not going to say that it's an awkward game,

439
00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:55.640
<v Speaker 9>but he's so big, strong, physical, you know, you can

440
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<v Speaker 9>move him around different spots on the floor. And you're right.

441
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<v Speaker 9>I think he was the first one early in that

442
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<v Speaker 9>second half that kind of drew a line and said

443
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<v Speaker 9>no more. Yeah, and if we go down, we're at

444
00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:09.240
<v Speaker 9>least going to go down with pride and fight and

445
00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:12.119
<v Speaker 9>be the aggressor. And it went from him to Jackson

446
00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:14.480
<v Speaker 9>Robinson and he had to move to the point and

447
00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:17.759
<v Speaker 9>everything clicked. So, I mean, that was a really I mean,

448
00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:21.640
<v Speaker 9>it's hard to say like which win really establishes a

449
00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:24.279
<v Speaker 9>head coach with a program, but that might be the

450
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<v Speaker 9>one when you look back on his hopefully long career

451
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:31.079
<v Speaker 9>as the head coach of Kentucky that it kind of

452
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<v Speaker 9>solidified we got the right guy.

453
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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what you mentioned, point guard. I was

454
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<v Speaker 1>listening to the pregame show and heard Tom Leech talking

455
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<v Speaker 1>with Mark Pope. When Pope anounced Nola mont Butler, I

456
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<v Speaker 1>just kind of dropped my shoulder. I said, well, there

457
00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:49.880
<v Speaker 1>goes that game because I didn't see honestly anyway, Kentucky

458
00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:52.680
<v Speaker 1>with Numhart are so good. How are you going to

459
00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:56.759
<v Speaker 1>disrupt Gonzaga add all and then get into your offense

460
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<v Speaker 1>with that Butler? At what point did you guys find

461
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<v Speaker 1>out on TV side that Butler wasn't going to play?

462
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:06.279
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, we pretty much knew it to shoot around, you know,

463
00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:09.519
<v Speaker 9>we're yeah, we're privy to obviously a lot of information,

464
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<v Speaker 9>and they trust us, and we're not going to say

465
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<v Speaker 9>a word that's not that's We're not into breaking news

466
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<v Speaker 9>like that. But I was like you at halftime, I

467
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<v Speaker 9>was like, well, that's that's kind of what we thought.

468
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<v Speaker 9>We don't have a little Butler the best defensive point

469
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:22.839
<v Speaker 9>guard out there and them Hart's doing whatever he wants.

470
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<v Speaker 9>But it's funny how you kind of fall into things

471
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<v Speaker 9>sometimes as a coach or a team. When when Kirk

472
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<v Speaker 9>Crisa went out and he was forced to put Jackson

473
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<v Speaker 9>Robinson up up top as a primary ball handler, Kentucky

474
00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:36.920
<v Speaker 9>got really big on both ends of the floor. They

475
00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:39.960
<v Speaker 9>had matchup problems working to their advantage, and they just

476
00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:42.640
<v Speaker 9>kind of fell into it. I don't think Mark will

477
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<v Speaker 9>play a heavy lot of minutes going forward with that lineup,

478
00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:47.839
<v Speaker 9>but it sure is good to know that, man, if

479
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:50.000
<v Speaker 9>we get if we get in that pinch, we have

480
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:52.519
<v Speaker 9>a bigger lineup we can play. And it worked really well.

481
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, when Kentucky fans were studying this new roster

482
00:25:56.079 --> 00:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and they were so relieved, frankly, when Jackson Robinson wasn't

483
00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:04.839
<v Speaker 1>a real shock tested the waters. But I think they

484
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.960
<v Speaker 1>may have expected and this is for lack of a

485
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:09.880
<v Speaker 1>better term, you can help me with this, but I

486
00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:13.160
<v Speaker 1>think maybe they were looking for a flashier game man,

487
00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:16.559
<v Speaker 1>maybe from a guy who you know might be NBA ready.

488
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>That's not his style. But I think what we saw

489
00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.880
<v Speaker 1>against a Gonzaga is what I mean. That was him

490
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<v Speaker 1>at his best, wasn't it.

491
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<v Speaker 9>Well, the second half was the best he's played in

492
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.480
<v Speaker 9>the Kentucky jersey. You know, he did not start at BYU.

493
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:32.599
<v Speaker 9>He was the sixth Man of the Year and led

494
00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:36.759
<v Speaker 9>BYU in scoring. He's not just a guaranteed next level

495
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:40.880
<v Speaker 9>NBA guy, but he showed signs in that second half

496
00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:43.079
<v Speaker 9>that he can handle the ball, he can make some

497
00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:47.559
<v Speaker 9>tough shots. Obviously, Kentucky needs him to continue to shoot

498
00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:50.039
<v Speaker 9>better from the three point line like the team does overall.

499
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<v Speaker 9>But I think it's a cool story that once he

500
00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:56.559
<v Speaker 9>withdrew his name, there was no question where he was going.

501
00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:59.720
<v Speaker 9>And he told us before the game that Cody Feger,

502
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:02.880
<v Speaker 9>this thin coach, and Mark Cope changed his life. And

503
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:06.319
<v Speaker 9>you like guys like that that that will just believe

504
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:08.319
<v Speaker 9>in the head coach. The head coach has great belief

505
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:11.240
<v Speaker 9>in him, and Uh, it was it was a really

506
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:14.279
<v Speaker 9>good coming out party for him in the Kentucky jersey

507
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:15.480
<v Speaker 9>in that second half.

508
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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Dikes have ESPN is my guest. He wore Kentucky

509
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Gonzaga last Saturday night. More with a coach when we

510
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:23.880
<v Speaker 1>come back. You're on six thirty w l a P.

511
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<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Jimmy Diyke's basketball analysts for ESPN. He

512
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<v Speaker 1>has written the film Doesn't Lie and hosts the Coach

513
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.599
<v Speaker 1>Me Up podcast. And of course Jimmy, Uh, just a

514
00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>few years ago an assistant coach at Kentucky. Wow. I

515
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>hate to think about how many years we go back there, but.

516
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:41.759
<v Speaker 3>A few.

517
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:45.680
<v Speaker 1>But Uh, I know and you you you've done some

518
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>coaching since then, but you're enjoying what you're doing.

519
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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

520
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<v Speaker 1>For ESPN, how far ahead do you have your schedule?

521
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Do you have Kentucky coming up at all?

522
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:55.559
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, so I have him. I think my next time

524
00:27:57.400 --> 00:27:59.640
<v Speaker 9>I have him is in early in conference play when

525
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:02.920
<v Speaker 9>Texas A and M comes to RUT And that's about

526
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<v Speaker 9>as far as my schedule goes out. I think that's

527
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:07.160
<v Speaker 9>like it makes the tenth of the fourteenth of January

528
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.160
<v Speaker 9>somewhere in there we send it. We team tend to

529
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:13.559
<v Speaker 9>get about a month out, you know, just based upon

530
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:15.480
<v Speaker 9>the matchups and how teams are playing where they want

531
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:19.079
<v Speaker 9>us to go. So but I'll certainly be following Kentucky.

532
00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:21.319
<v Speaker 9>It's you know, it was a great two years of

533
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:25.720
<v Speaker 9>my life there and there's nothing like Kentucky basketball and

534
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 9>Big Blue Nation and the passion that they have. And

535
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 9>you know, there's a there's a small percentage of Kentucky

536
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:35.039
<v Speaker 9>fans that get after all of us on Twitter sometimes,

537
00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:38.359
<v Speaker 9>but that doesn't represent to the true Kentucky fans are.

538
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Man.

539
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.720
<v Speaker 9>They they love their team, but I think they appreciate

540
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.839
<v Speaker 9>honest analysis on their games. They want to be told

541
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:46.880
<v Speaker 9>the truth and I try to do that and call

542
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 9>the game down the middle. When Kentucky's good I'm the

543
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.240
<v Speaker 9>first one to say they're good when they think I'm

544
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:54.440
<v Speaker 9>the first one to say they stink. And but when

545
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:57.039
<v Speaker 9>people ask me when I'm traveling, where's your favorite place

546
00:28:57.119 --> 00:28:59.480
<v Speaker 9>to go to a basketball game? I say Kentucky just

547
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:02.839
<v Speaker 9>because of all the dynamics of rupp Arena and the

548
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Speaker 9>fan base and always sold out, and you know it's

549
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.720
<v Speaker 9>the big game. When you're doing Kentucky on national TV.

550
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<v Speaker 1>Well, you made reference to the Kentucky fans in Seattle.

551
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:16.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I say, Blue gets in and when Kentucky

552
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:19.079
<v Speaker 1>was doing well, you know your director was picking up

553
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:22.359
<v Speaker 1>shots of the UK fans. I know that didn't surprise

554
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you at all, did it?

555
00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:25.039
<v Speaker 3>Now?

556
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 9>I said, Kentucky can play in Russia and let's go.

557
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:31.519
<v Speaker 9>Let's go. Blue chants gonna break out at some point.

558
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 9>That's just that's who they are.

559
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:33.400
<v Speaker 3>It was.

560
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.119
<v Speaker 9>It was a great atmosphere. I mean, a lot of

561
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:38.359
<v Speaker 9>times you watch games, they say, hey, it feels like

562
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:41.359
<v Speaker 9>an Elite eight. No, not really, that one did, because

563
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.279
<v Speaker 9>it wasn't fifty to fifty. But there's a lot of

564
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.599
<v Speaker 9>Kentucky fans in there. Obviously a huge amount of Gonzaga fans.

565
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:51.200
<v Speaker 9>Both were loud at the time that they you know,

566
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:54.359
<v Speaker 9>had the momentum going. But you just saw, like I said,

567
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:58.000
<v Speaker 9>two teams that are legitimately Final four contenders going at

568
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:00.720
<v Speaker 9>it in early December, and it's great to be a

569
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:01.359
<v Speaker 9>part of that game.

570
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, getting back to that second half and you you

571
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>touched on this, and you guys talked about it of

572
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:09.359
<v Speaker 1>course on the air, and Jack Gibbons was delighted to

573
00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>see the one three one because job hall uh snuck

574
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that in every now and then. Of course with Jay

575
00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:18.079
<v Speaker 1>Scheidler running the baseline, it was such a great athlete.

576
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>But uh, did you have any idea that that one

577
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>three to one was coming? Did you see it and

578
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>shoot around? Because I have to admit, I don't get

579
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to go to practice much. I've been to a few,

580
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>but I've not seen them work on that.

581
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:30.079
<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't.

582
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:31.759
<v Speaker 9>I did not see it and shoot around in the

583
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:34.519
<v Speaker 9>four or five practices i've actual practices I've seen in

584
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.400
<v Speaker 9>the Kentucky this year, I haven't seen it. But you

585
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:40.279
<v Speaker 9>got to do something to change the game. And at

586
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:44.279
<v Speaker 9>times it was at times to confuse Gunzaga. In times,

587
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 9>Kentucky was confused a little bit running it like who's

588
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:48.000
<v Speaker 9>gonna be where and they let the guy wide open

589
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:50.839
<v Speaker 9>in the corner on one miss assignment. But that's okay,

590
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.720
<v Speaker 9>that's the beauty of the game. And for your guys

591
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:57.119
<v Speaker 9>to believe in something when you at halftime say okay,

592
00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 9>this is what we're gonna do defensively, and they go

593
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:01.079
<v Speaker 9>out and execute up believing it. And that's that's all

594
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.480
<v Speaker 9>you can ask if you're a fan of Kentucky basketball,

595
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:06.039
<v Speaker 9>is how much do they believe in their head coach?

596
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.279
<v Speaker 9>And I got to think to a man that they

597
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:10.880
<v Speaker 9>think that Mark Pope is the greatest coach right now

598
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:14.400
<v Speaker 9>in college ball. And that's exactly what you want, right Yeah.

599
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.079
<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's interesting people. I think I've talked

600
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>to some folks who it seemed like they had this

601
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>impression of Marcus this neophy, you know, this this kind

602
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:26.839
<v Speaker 1>of a newbie head coach. He's new to the UK job,

603
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.039
<v Speaker 1>of course, but he has a solid resume. I mean,

604
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>what he did at Utah Valley State, what he did

605
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.599
<v Speaker 1>at bring him young, both programs overachieved. And so it's

606
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>not like in terms of just his basketball acumen, it's

607
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:41.839
<v Speaker 1>not like he came in here all wide eyed, you

608
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean.

609
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:46.599
<v Speaker 9>No, doubt. I mean, I just I'm just reflecting back

610
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 9>in the first half that comes back what was going away.

611
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 9>He didn't look any different than the first half, and

612
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 9>he did the second half when it was going his way.

613
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.319
<v Speaker 9>He just has a calmness and a belief and a

614
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.400
<v Speaker 9>confidence about who he is and how he coached and

615
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.519
<v Speaker 9>how he sees the game. And you know, he took

616
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 9>his BYU team into ball Gallon Fieldhouse last year Kansas

617
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 9>in the one Great Canas wasn't a great Kansas team,

618
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:11.680
<v Speaker 9>but not very many people go in there and get

619
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:15.759
<v Speaker 9>a win. No, he would never phase at Gonzaga and

620
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:18.279
<v Speaker 9>he will not be phased this year. And you know,

621
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:22.240
<v Speaker 9>Kentucky's coming off of a two game road swing that's

622
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.599
<v Speaker 9>going to be exactly what they're gonna face in the

623
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:30.599
<v Speaker 9>SEC high high level games. Competitive, physical, loud crowd. And

624
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.440
<v Speaker 9>this week was the best. This past week is the

625
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:36.640
<v Speaker 9>best thing Kentucky could do for himself. Go play at

626
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:39.359
<v Speaker 9>Clemson and basically at Gonzaga, and now you know, going

627
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:42.400
<v Speaker 9>into SEC play, Hey, we've been down this road before.

628
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<v Speaker 9>We know how to handle it well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you mentioned that during the first half

630
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<v Speaker 1>what happened at Clemson. You know with that atmosphere down

631
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.480
<v Speaker 1>there here, Kentucky's coming to town. You've been a part

632
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>of that as a member of the coaching staff. It's

633
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 1>like the circus arrives and Clemson just hauled off and

634
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>punched him in the mouth. And and that paid off,

635
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't it.

636
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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, no doubt. And yet you've got to be knocked

637
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:07.160
<v Speaker 9>around a little bit to understand how to play through

638
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.640
<v Speaker 9>it right. Because Gonzaga had the same game plan. They're

639
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:12.680
<v Speaker 9>not as physical as Clemson. They tried to be, but

640
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.000
<v Speaker 9>they're not. And I think that's a big part of

641
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.480
<v Speaker 9>why Kentucky said, you know, we've seen this before. We

642
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:21.000
<v Speaker 9>can handle this unless they got rolling. Many they got rolling.

643
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:25.839
<v Speaker 9>They they played a great second half and Jackson Robinson

644
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 9>had a ton of confidence when Mark puts the ball

645
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:30.599
<v Speaker 9>in his hands and everybody's kind of fed off of it.

646
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.039
<v Speaker 9>So now they got I don't think I think they're off.

647
00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:35.000
<v Speaker 9>All we can tell to play Louisville on Saturday, and

648
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<v Speaker 9>I don't have to say anything about that game. It

649
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:38.240
<v Speaker 9>doesn't matter.

650
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Louisville is not.

651
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:41.720
<v Speaker 9>Louisville is not what they're going to be under Pat Kelsey.

652
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<v Speaker 9>I think he's going to be a great fit for

653
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:47.839
<v Speaker 9>that program. I was with him in Atlantis during Thanksgiving week.

654
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:51.759
<v Speaker 9>Kentucky will be heavily favored. But man, you take nothing

655
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.799
<v Speaker 9>for granted in that game. And Mark Cope, he understands

656
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:58.440
<v Speaker 9>that game better than anybody else out there. So Kentucky

657
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:01.160
<v Speaker 9>should be fine in terms of are we read.

658
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>They've actually got Colgate on Wednesday night? But come on, yeah,

659
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.079
<v Speaker 1>but you know they can work some things out there.

660
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>With all due respect. A couple of minutes left with

661
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Didyke's of ESPN worked at Kentucky again Zaga game.

662
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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

663
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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've been talking about Mark Pope, the head coach,

664
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<v Speaker 1>and he has talked about the fact that he changed

665
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:24.119
<v Speaker 1>his tone as a coach. He went from being you know,

666
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:26.280
<v Speaker 1>the kind of war you down kind of guy. There's

667
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:28.159
<v Speaker 1>no way he's going to be another Rick Patino, but

668
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.880
<v Speaker 1>he went to the more of the uplifting, positive style.

669
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>And Jack Gibbons in the postgame interview talked to one

670
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.639
<v Speaker 1>of the players about the fact that Jack and they

671
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>sat opposite from you guys, they were on the on

672
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the bench side. He could hear Mark even when they

673
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:47.760
<v Speaker 1>were down, Pope keep yelling we're okay. We're okay. I

674
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you if you could hear any of that.

675
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.280
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of rare, isn't it.

676
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

677
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.480
<v Speaker 9>It is, But I mean that's who Mark is at

678
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:59.599
<v Speaker 9>his core. He sits to this positive energy, stable, competent

679
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.639
<v Speaker 9>guy and who he is and as a dad, as

680
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:05.880
<v Speaker 9>a husband, as a coach, and I think he realized

681
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:09.440
<v Speaker 9>about ten years ago that trying to be maybe something

682
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.480
<v Speaker 9>that he's not wasn't working, and then his players were

683
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.559
<v Speaker 9>playing out of fear and trying to please him and

684
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:18.599
<v Speaker 9>not for the right reasons. And now he's, uh, you know,

685
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:21.559
<v Speaker 9>he's changed. He's he will still get on him some

686
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 9>I've seen him do that, but he does it with

687
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:26.760
<v Speaker 9>that tenderness and a tone that that you have to

688
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:31.320
<v Speaker 9>have in that balance between toughness and tenderness. So, uh man,

689
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:33.920
<v Speaker 9>it's it's all good right now with that put your

690
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:38.280
<v Speaker 9>basketball program and uh miss Barnhardt knocked it out of

691
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:39.239
<v Speaker 9>the park with his hires.

692
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Are there gonna be some tough times?

693
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:42.039
<v Speaker 5>You know?

694
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 1>That SEC coming up Tennessee is awfully good. I don't

695
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:48.360
<v Speaker 1>know if you've seen them yet, but uh, I mean

696
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:52.199
<v Speaker 1>this this league has gotten so competitive. Jimmy and the money.

697
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Now they're spending up facilities, coaches, staffs, that kind of thing.

698
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:00.400
<v Speaker 1>It's finally what the SEC thought it was for quite

699
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Speaker 1>a while. But now, uh, it's a grind, especially with

700
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Texas and Oklahoma joining.

701
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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I was, I was the lone soldier there for

702
00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:09.960
<v Speaker 9>a while.

703
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Last year.

704
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 9>I kept saying the SEC is the best conference in

705
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:16.360
<v Speaker 9>college basketball. I got a lot of pushbacks and I but,

706
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:18.480
<v Speaker 9>but but I stood firm because I knew what I

707
00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:21.239
<v Speaker 9>saw and I knew what was coming. And it is

708
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.920
<v Speaker 9>clearly this year, through the first week of December, the

709
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:29.559
<v Speaker 9>most dominant league in college basketball, and maybe historically one

710
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:31.519
<v Speaker 9>of the most dominant league. Now they have to finish

711
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:35.719
<v Speaker 9>out non conference like they've done. But when Joelnarredi who's

712
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:39.000
<v Speaker 9>pretty good at his job, project twelve teams the SEC

713
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.800
<v Speaker 9>for the NCAA Tournament, that that would that would be

714
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Speaker 9>a history, that would be a historical.

715
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:44.480
<v Speaker 3>Year for this league.

716
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:46.880
<v Speaker 9>So if you're Kentucky, you know you're going to get

717
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:50.079
<v Speaker 9>knocked around some and SEC play. That's that's that's just

718
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:53.639
<v Speaker 9>part of it. Yeah, I don't know, Dick, if the

719
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:56.519
<v Speaker 9>SC champ SEC champion is going to have four or

720
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:58.760
<v Speaker 9>five six classes. I don't know, but it's not to speak.

721
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:00.800
<v Speaker 9>It's not going to be a tour of lost champion.

722
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:02.519
<v Speaker 9>This year the league two good, yeah.

723
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:04.639
<v Speaker 1>Because I mean Alabama and Auburn are out there. That's

724
00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:07.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna be fun. I remember one year Kentucky ander Joe

725
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:10.679
<v Speaker 1>b had five won the conference with five losses, but

726
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the depth wasn't there the way it is now. So

727
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>tell everybody where they can see you on Saturday.

728
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:20.039
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I'm next. My next team is at the former

729
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.480
<v Speaker 9>number one team, Kansas. They lost two in a row,

730
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.199
<v Speaker 9>which has announced your life seriously, like you're number one

731
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 9>and then you go lose two in a row. But

732
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:30.199
<v Speaker 9>still Paul Gallon is one of the great great places

733
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:33.679
<v Speaker 9>do college basketball. And they take on inc State, who

734
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 9>got hot last year made it to the Final Four,

735
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:37.920
<v Speaker 9>and then actually stayed the next day and do the

736
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:41.880
<v Speaker 9>women's game Kansas versus Penn State. So yeah, two games

737
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:44.840
<v Speaker 9>in two days and then come home. I think after that,

738
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.320
<v Speaker 9>because it's finals week for a lot of teams, I'm

739
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:50.760
<v Speaker 9>off again until the next Saturday with Wake Forest at Clemson.

740
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 9>I go right back to Clemson, who I think is

741
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.920
<v Speaker 9>really really good. That's not a damaging loss to Kentucky's

742
00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:58.360
<v Speaker 9>resume a Clemson, they could end up being in the

743
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:01.280
<v Speaker 9>top two or three in the ACC. So good team,

744
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:01.840
<v Speaker 9>I know.

745
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, enjoy the rest. We'll be watching for you. I

746
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.360
<v Speaker 1>enjoy your Christmas holiday as well. Jimmy Dikes. Follow him

747
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:13.119
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter at coach Jimmy Dikes or listen to him

748
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.559
<v Speaker 1>as well on the Coach podcast. Coach always a pleasure.

749
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the time, looking forward to seeing you.

750
00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:21.480
<v Speaker 9>S Yeah, Merry Christmas to you, and I think we

751
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:22.599
<v Speaker 9>make to thank for ham me on.

752
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll say it again. Of all the college basketball analysts

753
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>working today, Jimmy Dikes has the most insight into the

754
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:31.199
<v Speaker 1>UK basketball. Some of you out there don't like him.

755
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, because he knows and respects his program.

756
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I believe more than any other analyst out there, because

757
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>he worked here and lived here for a couple of years.

758
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>So all right, every number two is coming up with

759
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:45.760
<v Speaker 1>my conversation with Tim Koutch from a little while back.

760
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.760
<v Speaker 1>He's going into the College Football Hall of Fame tonight,

761
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.360
<v Speaker 1>and David Sist from Cat's Illustrated part of the Rivals Network.

762
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:55.920
<v Speaker 1>We'll get his thoughts on UK again, Zaga and what's

763
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.199
<v Speaker 1>ahead for the Wildcats. That's next on the Big Blue

764
00:38:58.320 --> 00:40:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Sider six thirty WLA. Welcome back to the Big One Cider. Tonight,

765
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Tim Couch, Kentucky's own, will be inducted into the College

766
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:23.199
<v Speaker 1>Football Hall of Fame out in Las Vegas. The announcement

767
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:26.400
<v Speaker 1>came back in January, and then Tim was recognized at

768
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:28.599
<v Speaker 1>a UK football game back in the fall. That's when

769
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I talked to the UK Hall of Famer about to

770
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:34.119
<v Speaker 1>go into the College Football Hall of Fame. Here's part

771
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>of my conversation with Tim Couch.

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00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:39.880
<v Speaker 10>I'm super excited, Dick. I mean, you know, it's a

773
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:43.480
<v Speaker 10>tremendous honor, very humbled by, you know, being recognized in

774
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:45.880
<v Speaker 10>this year's twenty twenty four Hall of Fame class, going

775
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:48.000
<v Speaker 10>in with a great group of guys, and you know,

776
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:50.760
<v Speaker 10>just very thankful for my time at Kentucky and for

777
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:52.760
<v Speaker 10>the coaches and teammates that I had an opportunity to

778
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.719
<v Speaker 10>play with, and you know, just just a great thanks

779
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:57.519
<v Speaker 10>felling the place for me, you know, with coach Mommy

780
00:40:57.559 --> 00:40:59.360
<v Speaker 10>coming in and putting in the air raid offense, and

781
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.960
<v Speaker 10>you know, very it suited my skill set perfectly and

782
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:05.159
<v Speaker 10>was able to have a great run by my time

783
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:05.719
<v Speaker 10>at Kentucky.

784
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:07.599
<v Speaker 3>So I'm very, very thankful and grateful for it.

785
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.280
<v Speaker 1>You were talking last night briefly on the show with

786
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Mark Stoops and Tom Leech, and I could tell what

787
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>you really wanted to say is you would love to

788
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.679
<v Speaker 1>take all your teammates in there with you, wouldn't you?

789
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Absolutely?

790
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:21.199
<v Speaker 10>You know, you know this is you know, we played

791
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.719
<v Speaker 10>the ultimate team sport, and you know, so to get

792
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:26.880
<v Speaker 10>an individual recognition is you know, just something that I'm

793
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:29.000
<v Speaker 10>kind of kind of uncomfortable with, to be honest, because

794
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:30.639
<v Speaker 10>there were so many people that helped me get there,

795
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:32.880
<v Speaker 10>and you know, I wish I could take all those

796
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:34.880
<v Speaker 10>guys with me, and I certainly, you know, when I'm

797
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:37.440
<v Speaker 10>on that stage, I'll be thinking about my teammates and

798
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.360
<v Speaker 10>and very appreciative of you know, having them, you know,

799
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:42.800
<v Speaker 10>to play with in my time at Kentucky, and you know,

800
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:44.800
<v Speaker 10>hopefully they feel part of this as well.

801
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:47.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, what was part of how Mummy's genius with

802
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.599
<v Speaker 1>the passing game, and obviously he had the right man

803
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>pulling the trigger, but you also had the right guys

804
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:56.079
<v Speaker 1>catching the footballs and Craig Yeast and Anthony White and

805
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Michelson and all these guys. You guys made it look

806
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:02.199
<v Speaker 1>so easy on offense. Why is that with the air

807
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Raid when it's run right, you can't have a bunch

808
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>of rum dumbs out there. But when when you've got

809
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the right people running it, why does it look so simple?

810
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.519
<v Speaker 10>You know, I think the offense in itself is very simple.

811
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.239
<v Speaker 10>You know, the concepts are simple. It's it's not a

812
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.800
<v Speaker 10>very complicated system to learn. It doesn't take very long

813
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.400
<v Speaker 10>to install. But like you said, Nick, it's you know,

814
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 10>you can have the greatest, you know, scheme in the world,

815
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:27.079
<v Speaker 10>but if you don't have a quarterback who's who's accurate

816
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.639
<v Speaker 10>with the football, make quick decisions. You know, can can

817
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 10>get your process information quickly. And then you have receivers

818
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:36.000
<v Speaker 10>who were great with run after the catch, you know,

819
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:37.840
<v Speaker 10>because a lot of the air Raid is the short

820
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.760
<v Speaker 10>intermediate passing game. So you're relying on those guys to

821
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:42.840
<v Speaker 10>break tackles, the quarterback to be accurate, to put the

822
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:44.760
<v Speaker 10>ball in a spot where receivers can catch and run.

823
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 10>And you know, so we had all those guys, like

824
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:48.840
<v Speaker 10>you said, we had Craig East, who was you know,

825
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:50.599
<v Speaker 10>one of the best receivers in the history of the

826
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:56.000
<v Speaker 10>sec you know, Lance Michelson, Quinn mccoor, James Whalen, Jimmy Robinson,

827
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:59.239
<v Speaker 10>you know, so many guys, Kevin Coleman. You know, obviously

828
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:02.159
<v Speaker 10>Anthony White was unbelievable out of the backfield. It's uh,

829
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:04.679
<v Speaker 10>we we just had a perfect, perfect set of guys

830
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:05.880
<v Speaker 10>for to run that scheme.

831
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:06.960
<v Speaker 3>It was.

832
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:08.840
<v Speaker 10>It was just a match making heaven with with coach

833
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:11.199
<v Speaker 10>Mommy coming in and the guys we had there on campus.

834
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I've got you on the phone, so I got

835
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.199
<v Speaker 1>to ask you is because I have Anthony White on

836
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>He's on every Sunday morning. But I always bring up

837
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the fact that his nickname was aunt b and you

838
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>hung that on him. Why did you call him?

839
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:29.840
<v Speaker 10>Uh, you know, I can't remember exactly. It seems it

840
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:32.880
<v Speaker 10>seems like somebody in practice said that, you know, we

841
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:35.360
<v Speaker 10>called him aunt and then somebody said aunt be Ballad

842
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:37.840
<v Speaker 10>or something, because you know, they couldn't stop him. You know,

843
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:39.960
<v Speaker 10>he was uh he was, you know, running for one

844
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:42.599
<v Speaker 10>hundred catching for one hundred some games, and he was

845
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:45.119
<v Speaker 10>just he was just a you know, all around kind

846
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:46.960
<v Speaker 10>of guy. So we just started calling him aunt bee

847
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:50.039
<v Speaker 10>her short, and it just kind of stuck but what

848
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:51.480
<v Speaker 10>what what a commnual football player?

849
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:51.760
<v Speaker 3>He will.

850
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh, now that helps me because I had the mental

851
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:58.280
<v Speaker 1>image of ant B from Andy Griffith. Now it's a

852
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:02.280
<v Speaker 1>short for Anthony. Okay, that helps me so much. But

853
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I also bring up the fact tim and you may

854
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:07.280
<v Speaker 1>embarrass him a little. I don't think it does that.

855
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.079
<v Speaker 1>When he left UK he was a top five all

856
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:13.119
<v Speaker 1>time combo back, wasn't he. I mean he was a

857
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.079
<v Speaker 1>perfect guy for that offense.

858
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:16.119
<v Speaker 3>He really was.

859
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:17.960
<v Speaker 10>I mean, if you're going to run that type of system,

860
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.239
<v Speaker 10>you know you need a running back. You know, Anthony

861
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:22.119
<v Speaker 10>had wide receiver skills. You know, he could have been

862
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:24.840
<v Speaker 10>a wide receiver, but he also had great running back

863
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:26.920
<v Speaker 10>skills as well. And he could and he could block.

864
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:29.119
<v Speaker 10>You know, he could pick up flitzes. You know, he

865
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:31.440
<v Speaker 10>was unbelievable catching the ball out of the backfield. You know,

866
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 10>third and third and medium, third and short. When we

867
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:36.559
<v Speaker 10>were in a passing game and I saw man coverage,

868
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:38.760
<v Speaker 10>you know, it was either you know, Craig one on

869
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 10>one on the outside. If Craig didn't win, I was

870
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:42.960
<v Speaker 10>coming underneath to to Anthony because I knew he was

871
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:45.320
<v Speaker 10>going to be matched up with a linebacker. Or potentially

872
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:46.840
<v Speaker 10>a safety maybe, and he was going to win that

873
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:48.840
<v Speaker 10>match up every time. You know, with the option routes

874
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:50.960
<v Speaker 10>and the angle routes we were running, uh, some of

875
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:52.880
<v Speaker 10>those things. He was just literally a perfect fit for

876
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:53.320
<v Speaker 10>this game.

877
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:56.199
<v Speaker 1>Yep. And you mentioned Craig and his speed, and of

878
00:44:56.199 --> 00:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>course he not only caught passes but return kicks in

879
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.599
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. But people, somebody said this to me the

880
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:05.159
<v Speaker 1>other day, you know, Tim Kasch didn't throw deep Berry

881
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.199
<v Speaker 1>off and I said, yeah, because they dropped two safeties

882
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:08.480
<v Speaker 1>back because they knew Yeast could.

883
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:09.320
<v Speaker 8>Kill it back there.

884
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:12.760
<v Speaker 1>But Craig could still, as you said, catch and run.

885
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was just the greatest.

886
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 3>He was. He was, you know, in my opinion.

887
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:20.800
<v Speaker 10>I know there's been a lot of great players at Kentucky,

888
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:22.639
<v Speaker 10>and no disrespect to any of those other guys, but

889
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:24.880
<v Speaker 10>obviously I'm biased to Craig. I think he's the best

890
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:27.920
<v Speaker 10>receiver ever played at Kentucky. You know, he was just

891
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.880
<v Speaker 10>the guy was incredible, man. And you know, like you said, teams,

892
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:32.920
<v Speaker 10>that was how they tried to defend us with keeping

893
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:34.960
<v Speaker 10>two safeties back because they couldn't leave one on one

894
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:36.880
<v Speaker 10>on the outside with Craig and when they did, that's

895
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:39.079
<v Speaker 10>when we took our deep shots. And but you know,

896
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:41.320
<v Speaker 10>as much as we were throwing the ball as kind

897
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:43.679
<v Speaker 10>of a ball controlled passing attack, So a lot of

898
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.320
<v Speaker 10>those screens and things, we considered those runs, to be

899
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 10>honest with, you know, those were just tall sweeps us

900
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:50.840
<v Speaker 10>get on the outside, you know, get the ball in

901
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:52.880
<v Speaker 10>Craig EA's hand in space, or you know, throw a

902
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.280
<v Speaker 10>screen to Anthony or something like that. Those were extension

903
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:57.320
<v Speaker 10>of the run game for us. And if teams wanted

904
00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.239
<v Speaker 10>to sit back and play cover two, cover four, and

905
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.239
<v Speaker 10>we just had to kind of you know, take our

906
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:03.880
<v Speaker 10>you know, you picking choes underneath and just take what

907
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 10>the defense is given us.

908
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:07.760
<v Speaker 1>You're one of three quarterbacks going in with the class

909
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:12.239
<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty four. It also includes Alex Smith, who

910
00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 1>helped you talk to the top of the polls, and

911
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Urban Meyer, and I was really pleased to see as well,

912
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>the kid from Appalachian State going in. Gosh, Harmani Edwards. Right,

913
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:27.599
<v Speaker 1>when you get together with guys like that, do they

914
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.239
<v Speaker 1>ask do you guys talk about the systems you're in.

915
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Do they ask you what it was like to run

916
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 1>the air raid?

917
00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:35.880
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, we always talk about you know, schemes that we

918
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.840
<v Speaker 10>were involved in, players we played with, you know, things

919
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:40.360
<v Speaker 10>like that, and you.

920
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Know, it's it's a great class.

921
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:44.719
<v Speaker 10>Like you said, we've got Randy Moss going in, Larry Fitzgerald,

922
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:48.440
<v Speaker 10>Warwick Dunn, Julius Peppers who just went into the NFL

923
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.800
<v Speaker 10>Hall of Fame as well, So it's a very strong

924
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:53.239
<v Speaker 10>class loop. You know, it's just you know, list goes

925
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:55.559
<v Speaker 10>on and on, and you know, we just just you know,

926
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:57.400
<v Speaker 10>we got to take a look at that list. It's

927
00:46:57.480 --> 00:46:59.440
<v Speaker 10>very humbling to go in with those guys. And you know,

928
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:02.920
<v Speaker 10>I think Paul sent me some information on the Hall,

929
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 10>and I think they said there's been something like five

930
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:08.440
<v Speaker 10>point five million people play college football and there's a

931
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:10.840
<v Speaker 10>little over a thousand guys that have been selected to

932
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 10>the Hall of Fame. So obviously a very selective group

933
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:16.960
<v Speaker 10>of guys. And you know, completely honored to be going in.

934
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Talking to Tim Kuch of course, UK Hall of Fame

935
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.239
<v Speaker 1>quarterback and now the College Football Hall of Fame going

936
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:24.840
<v Speaker 1>to be honored at the game on Saturday. But yeah,

937
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:28.760
<v Speaker 1>what a class. And I love seeing Danny Woodhead. It

938
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.800
<v Speaker 1>was a running back at Chaddin State, you know, a

939
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:35.239
<v Speaker 1>small college player, but man, what a great player. And

940
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:37.239
<v Speaker 1>then it kind of makes me feel a little bit

941
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.320
<v Speaker 1>old because I grew up watching the Nebraska Oklahoma series

942
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:43.840
<v Speaker 1>and Dewey Selman part of the Salmon family going in

943
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 1>he played at Oklahoma back in the early seventies. The

944
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:49.920
<v Speaker 1>game has changed so much, though, Tim, through the years,

945
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:52.679
<v Speaker 1>and now it's much more about offense, isn't it.

946
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:56.400
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's changed, you know, so much. You know, I think,

947
00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:59.440
<v Speaker 10>you know, when I was coming into the SEC, the

948
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.559
<v Speaker 10>SEC was really, you know, very much a running conference.

949
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:04.519
<v Speaker 10>You know, it was known for having great running backs.

950
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:06.760
<v Speaker 10>Really the only team at that time that was kind

951
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:08.599
<v Speaker 10>of throwing the ball quite a bit was Coach Spurrier

952
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:11.360
<v Speaker 10>down down in Florida. And then you know, Coach Mummy

953
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:13.639
<v Speaker 10>and Leach came in and just completely you know, kind

954
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 10>of revolutionized the game.

955
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:17.440
<v Speaker 3>And you know, you know, I was doing.

956
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 10>Broadcasting for several years after I was done playing, and

957
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:22.239
<v Speaker 10>it was it was always amazing to me to go

958
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.159
<v Speaker 10>to all these campuses and meet with these coaches that

959
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:27.559
<v Speaker 10>had different spots, and how all of them, you know,

960
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:29.280
<v Speaker 10>would come to me and say, hey, we we came

961
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:32.159
<v Speaker 10>to Kentucky in ninety seven or ninety eight and saw

962
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:34.119
<v Speaker 10>what you guys are doing, and we're still running a

963
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:36.760
<v Speaker 10>version of that even today, you know, twenty years later.

964
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:39.440
<v Speaker 10>So you know, it was pretty cool to be on

965
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:41.760
<v Speaker 10>the ground floor that thing, the air raid, and to

966
00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:44.159
<v Speaker 10>make it popular and to see that it's still very

967
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:46.000
<v Speaker 10>prevalent across the country today.

968
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>You didn't get to spend as much time, I know,

969
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>as you like with Mike Leach because he just went

970
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:53.960
<v Speaker 1>on to great and greater things in college football, helped

971
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma win the national Thailand and then made a name

972
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:59.039
<v Speaker 1>for himself. But what was it like, Tim? I mean,

973
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:02.519
<v Speaker 1>he was such a free spirit and a unique kind

974
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>of guy, wasn't he.

975
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:07.000
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, he was, you know, the most unique coach I think.

976
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:09.920
<v Speaker 3>I ever played for. And he was Mike was one of.

977
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:11.960
<v Speaker 10>Those guys that you know, you go in his office

978
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:13.679
<v Speaker 10>and talk to him, and you know, he would talk

979
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:15.800
<v Speaker 10>to you about anything except football. You know, he wanted

980
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:18.800
<v Speaker 10>to talk about pirates and and you know, wars and

981
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:21.400
<v Speaker 10>every in history and all this kind of stuff. And

982
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.960
<v Speaker 10>he was just a very different, very different guy. But

983
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:28.159
<v Speaker 10>he was also extremely intelligent. He was ahead of his

984
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:30.119
<v Speaker 10>time as far as the passing game goes, and he

985
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:32.719
<v Speaker 10>had a very clear vision for what he wanted an

986
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:35.199
<v Speaker 10>offense to look like and how he wanted to install it.

987
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:37.559
<v Speaker 10>And he was very precise. You know, he coached our

988
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.239
<v Speaker 10>wide receivers and was the offensive coordinator when I was there,

989
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:42.920
<v Speaker 10>and what he was all those wide receivers every single

990
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.280
<v Speaker 10>day about you know, just doing the little things right

991
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:47.000
<v Speaker 10>where you know, if you're split is supposed to be,

992
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:49.199
<v Speaker 10>you know, inside the numbers, and that's where you better

993
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:51.360
<v Speaker 10>line up. If you're supposed to run at twelve yards,

994
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:52.960
<v Speaker 10>I don't want you at thirteen, don't want.

995
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:53.239
<v Speaker 3>You at eleven.

996
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:55.280
<v Speaker 10>And you need to be precise. And you know that's

997
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:57.400
<v Speaker 10>what made our offense so successful. We were all so

998
00:49:57.639 --> 00:49:59.960
<v Speaker 10>dialed in and locked into the to the little detail

999
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:01.400
<v Speaker 10>which which made everything work.

1000
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.320
<v Speaker 1>It was also shocking when he left us way too

1001
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.480
<v Speaker 1>soon that that it'll be a punch and a gut

1002
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:06.840
<v Speaker 1>for you.

1003
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:10.239
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you know, I really hated to see that. And

1004
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:12.440
<v Speaker 10>you know, Mike and I have we kept in touch

1005
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.280
<v Speaker 10>over the years and would and would talk and you know,

1006
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:17.159
<v Speaker 10>I just talked to him a few months before that

1007
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:19.760
<v Speaker 10>and was completely shocked by the news and saddened by it.

1008
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:21.960
<v Speaker 10>And you know, I really wish it. You know that

1009
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:24.000
<v Speaker 10>he was around. I know he would be uh, you know,

1010
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:26.559
<v Speaker 10>in Las Vegas in December celebrating with me going into

1011
00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:28.920
<v Speaker 10>the Hall of Fame, and uh, you know, really really

1012
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:30.760
<v Speaker 10>just take that for his family, and he was such

1013
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:34.119
<v Speaker 10>a great guy and surely he's very missed when we

1014
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:34.559
<v Speaker 10>come back.

1015
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.960
<v Speaker 1>More from my conversation back in the fall with Tim Couch.

1016
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:41.800
<v Speaker 1>He'll be inducted tonight into the College Football Hall of Fame.

1017
00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Say what us here on the Big Bloom and Siders

1018
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:45.920
<v Speaker 1>six thirty w LA. We'll be back to the Big

1019
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Bloom Sider tonight. Tim Couch inducted into the College Football

1020
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. The ceremony at in Las Vegas. Wouldn't

1021
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:54.320
<v Speaker 1>we all love to be there? At least I would?

1022
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:54.840
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1023
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Back in the fall, Tim was recognized before a UK

1024
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:00.000
<v Speaker 1>football game. I had a chance to chat with him

1025
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.320
<v Speaker 1>here on the Big Blue Insider. When you set foot

1026
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:06.440
<v Speaker 1>you come back quite often, when you set foot on

1027
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:09.440
<v Speaker 1>that field, inside that stadium. How does that make you feel?

1028
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:12.599
<v Speaker 10>You know, I think the very the first thing I

1029
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:15.679
<v Speaker 10>feel is a sense of pride, you know what we

1030
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:18.079
<v Speaker 10>were able to accomplish, and and just how fun that

1031
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:20.119
<v Speaker 10>the game was when we were there, and you know

1032
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:23.000
<v Speaker 10>how how into it the fans were. And you know,

1033
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:25.639
<v Speaker 10>because Kentucky football was kind of in a rough point

1034
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:28.199
<v Speaker 10>there when I first got to UK and and they

1035
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 10>weren't winning many games. They were running the option. It

1036
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:33.239
<v Speaker 10>was wasn't a very exciting style of football. And then

1037
00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:35.559
<v Speaker 10>we came in and you know, we were going spread offense,

1038
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:37.639
<v Speaker 10>four or five wide receivers and throwing the ball all

1039
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.320
<v Speaker 10>over the field, and uh, you know, it's just just

1040
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:43.119
<v Speaker 10>you know, a great time to be playing at Kentucky

1041
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:45.679
<v Speaker 10>and and you know that coaching staff we had, you know,

1042
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:48.480
<v Speaker 10>you talk about coach Mummy and Leash and Hatcher and

1043
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:51.800
<v Speaker 10>Sonny Dyke and Tony Franklin and and all those guys.

1044
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:54.199
<v Speaker 10>We had so many creative minds on the offensive side

1045
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:56.679
<v Speaker 10>of the ball. And you know, like we talked about earlier,

1046
00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:58.719
<v Speaker 10>we had a great fit of players to run that

1047
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.000
<v Speaker 10>system as well. So, yeah, just to set the pride

1048
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:02.639
<v Speaker 10>when I'll walk into the stadium about what we were

1049
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:04.639
<v Speaker 10>able to accomplish while while I was playing there.

1050
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, you mentioned Mummy and it was You're right.

1051
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.159
<v Speaker 1>He was such an interesting individual as well. You could

1052
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:12.320
<v Speaker 1>see why he and Leech were so tight. But it

1053
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 1>was interesting to me Tim when things went went south

1054
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:18.000
<v Speaker 1>for how here and of course the fans were all

1055
00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:21.719
<v Speaker 1>over him. And then when Kentucky was looking for a

1056
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:25.440
<v Speaker 1>new coach a dozen years ago, people were lobbying like

1057
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:29.800
<v Speaker 1>crazy for how Mummy disciples somebody to be the next

1058
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.639
<v Speaker 1>Tow Mummy. So you know, as long as you win,

1059
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:34.679
<v Speaker 1>that's what it's all about. But that people want to

1060
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:35.960
<v Speaker 1>be entertained too, don't they.

1061
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:39.159
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I think so, And you know, it's just a

1062
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:41.679
<v Speaker 10>you know, I think people see, you know, how teams

1063
00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:44.239
<v Speaker 10>have been very successful with that system across the country

1064
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:46.440
<v Speaker 10>and other places, and and you know, it was a

1065
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:47.239
<v Speaker 10>fun style.

1066
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Of football to watch.

1067
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:50.239
<v Speaker 10>I think it was very popular obviously with our fan

1068
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:52.760
<v Speaker 10>base here a Kentucky and people didn't want to see

1069
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:53.559
<v Speaker 10>that come back, you know.

1070
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:56.039
<v Speaker 3>And Coach Jukes did bring it back for a little bit.

1071
00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:58.079
<v Speaker 10>He brought Neil Brown back here for a couple of years,

1072
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:00.000
<v Speaker 10>and of the Neils went on to do great things.

1073
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:02.320
<v Speaker 3>He was a head coach at at West Virginia.

1074
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:05.400
<v Speaker 10>And uh so it's you know, it's uh it was

1075
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:07.760
<v Speaker 10>a great, great, great offense to play in and it's

1076
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.119
<v Speaker 10>very popular, like I said, with the fans and obviously

1077
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:13.039
<v Speaker 10>with cornerbacks and receivers love it, and you know, it's

1078
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:14.480
<v Speaker 10>just it's just a lot of fun to play in

1079
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:15.199
<v Speaker 10>that type of system.

1080
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got to ask you, being a father, do

1081
00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:23.760
<v Speaker 1>you have to queue up video to show your son

1082
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:28.559
<v Speaker 1>what you do? Because I remember Jamal Mashburn when he

1083
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:31.159
<v Speaker 1>wanted to the Kentucky Sports Hall of Fame, he said

1084
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:34.639
<v Speaker 1>his kids didn't really believe that he was a great

1085
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 1>player at the NBA. He had to show them video.

1086
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you have to do that?

1087
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:41.079
<v Speaker 10>I've done it before. Yeah, yeah, when they when they

1088
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:43.280
<v Speaker 10>were smaller, I had to do that. And uh, you know,

1089
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.239
<v Speaker 10>they used to love to watch those videos when they

1090
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:47.519
<v Speaker 10>when they were little. And you know, now I've got

1091
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:49.239
<v Speaker 10>a I've got a freshman in college and a freshman

1092
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:52.679
<v Speaker 10>in high school. My oldest son is he signed a

1093
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.800
<v Speaker 10>scholarship to play for Holy Cross up in Boston, so he's, uh,

1094
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:58.320
<v Speaker 10>he's playing defensive end up there. And then my youngest

1095
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:01.039
<v Speaker 10>son is a freshman it's uh let Christian Academy. So

1096
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:04.480
<v Speaker 10>you know, they're they're both good athletes and good students

1097
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:07.039
<v Speaker 10>and you know, certainly very proud of them defensive ends.

1098
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:08.880
<v Speaker 1>So you got to You've got to talk to him

1099
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:10.920
<v Speaker 1>about what it's like to go attack a quarterback.

1100
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:15.320
<v Speaker 10>I told him, you know, he was playing quarterback up

1101
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:17.119
<v Speaker 10>until like eighth grade when he switched over to the

1102
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:19.559
<v Speaker 10>defensive end. And I was like, I can't tell you

1103
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:21.760
<v Speaker 10>anything about playing defensive end other than I don't like

1104
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:23.360
<v Speaker 10>those guys. That's all I know about it.

1105
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:28.719
<v Speaker 1>He's going to relish the licks he puts on quarterbacks.

1106
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:32.480
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned broadcasting and you stepped away from that, and

1107
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you and your brother now very successful businessman. And a

1108
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:39.039
<v Speaker 1>tip of the cap to your brother. I always love

1109
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:41.039
<v Speaker 1>what he did at ek I keep reminding people that

1110
00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Greg Couch was the last QB to lead EKU to

1111
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:50.119
<v Speaker 1>an undefeated OVC record and an OVC title, so and

1112
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:52.079
<v Speaker 1>always will be now that they're out of the league.

1113
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:54.639
<v Speaker 1>But anyhow, you were on your way to a pretty

1114
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:58.360
<v Speaker 1>good broadcasting career when you stepped away. Now, Tom Brady,

1115
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:01.559
<v Speaker 1>a guy you know, a little bit has started and

1116
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:04.039
<v Speaker 1>it kind of got lukewarm reviews. But for crying out loud,

1117
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:08.000
<v Speaker 1>he's a rookie. But if you could give him some advice,

1118
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:11.719
<v Speaker 1>you giving Tom Brady advice on broadcasting, what would it be?

1119
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:14.960
<v Speaker 10>You know, I think the biggest thing that I had

1120
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:18.239
<v Speaker 10>to learn is you know, you do have to prepare

1121
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:20.840
<v Speaker 10>like you're playing, you know, I mean, it is so

1122
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:24.039
<v Speaker 10>much prep work as far as you know, watching film,

1123
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:27.559
<v Speaker 10>understanding schemes and systems and game plans, and talking to

1124
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:29.559
<v Speaker 10>coaches and players throughout the week to get a feel

1125
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:31.159
<v Speaker 10>from what they're going to try to do that week,

1126
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:34.079
<v Speaker 10>so you can go on TV and explain that. And

1127
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:36.280
<v Speaker 10>you know, for me, you know, I don't want to

1128
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:38.039
<v Speaker 10>say dumb it down, that's not the right word, but

1129
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:40.320
<v Speaker 10>I wanted to talk like I was talking to like

1130
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:42.920
<v Speaker 10>maybe like my mother at home, Yes, who knows who

1131
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:45.559
<v Speaker 10>watches football, but she doesn't understand like the you know,

1132
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:47.719
<v Speaker 10>really inside of x's and O. So you can get

1133
00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:49.960
<v Speaker 10>on there and you know, obviously Tom could talk about

1134
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:52.440
<v Speaker 10>you know, the game as in depth as anyone who's

1135
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:54.280
<v Speaker 10>ever played it. But you know, you have to make

1136
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:56.440
<v Speaker 10>it simple for the people watching on TV so they

1137
00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:58.599
<v Speaker 10>you know, you can say, oh, it's cover two, but

1138
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:00.519
<v Speaker 10>you know, no one, no one really now what cover

1139
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:02.559
<v Speaker 10>two is unless you you know, you've studied the game,

1140
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:05.079
<v Speaker 10>played the game, so so you make it, you know,

1141
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:07.320
<v Speaker 10>you make it simple for the fans watching at home

1142
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:09.239
<v Speaker 10>so they can follow along with you and understand what

1143
00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:11.559
<v Speaker 10>you're talking about. But you know, Tom, you know he's

1144
00:56:11.599 --> 00:56:13.199
<v Speaker 10>going to be great in whatever he does. You know,

1145
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:15.800
<v Speaker 10>it's it's very difficult to walk in that booth and

1146
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:18.039
<v Speaker 10>and call a game that if you've never done it before.

1147
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:20.079
<v Speaker 10>He's just going to get better and better with with

1148
00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:21.320
<v Speaker 10>with refs in each game he does.

1149
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they keep comparing comparing him to Greg Olsen, who

1150
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:25.639
<v Speaker 1>was not great when he started.

1151
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:28.199
<v Speaker 3>None of us was not that I know.

1152
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:30.559
<v Speaker 1>No, Yeah, before I let you go, I got to

1153
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:32.800
<v Speaker 1>ask you. I'm sure your heart went out to the

1154
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:35.159
<v Speaker 1>what your Wildcats and a rock Vandergriff. He had a

1155
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:37.880
<v Speaker 1>rough day at the office against South Carolina. But that's

1156
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:39.360
<v Speaker 1>life in SEC, isn't it.

1157
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:42.480
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, that's the way it goes, you know. I mean this, Uh,

1158
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:45.400
<v Speaker 10>in this league, anyone can embarrass you quickly if you're

1159
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:47.400
<v Speaker 10>not on not on top of your game. And obviously

1160
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:49.320
<v Speaker 10>we didn't play well. You know, I'm not going to

1161
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:51.559
<v Speaker 10>make any excuses. We didn't play well up front. Uh

1162
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:54.679
<v Speaker 10>quarterback didn't really have many opportunities to play well. And uh,

1163
00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:56.920
<v Speaker 10>you know we just in South Carolina played great. Give

1164
00:56:57.000 --> 00:56:59.239
<v Speaker 10>him credit. That's a good defense they got after us

1165
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:02.039
<v Speaker 10>and know, things can go go go south on you

1166
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:04.280
<v Speaker 10>pretty quickly in this league if you're not playing well,

1167
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:06.599
<v Speaker 10>and you know, I think we'll bounce back. I think

1168
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:09.679
<v Speaker 10>we've got a very talented football team. I love our

1169
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:11.880
<v Speaker 10>coaching staff. Obviously, you know, coach Stepson is the winning

1170
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:14.239
<v Speaker 10>his coach we've ever had here, So I have all

1171
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:15.840
<v Speaker 10>the faith in the world that he's going to get this,

1172
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:18.880
<v Speaker 10>get these guys to rally rallied up, and get them

1173
00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:20.679
<v Speaker 10>going back in the right direction. And obviously we've got

1174
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:23.519
<v Speaker 10>a tough one this week with Georgia. But you know,

1175
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:24.960
<v Speaker 10>it doesn't get any it doesn't get easier, you know,

1176
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:26.960
<v Speaker 10>I think I saw we played five of the top

1177
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:28.840
<v Speaker 10>seven teams in the country coming up over the next

1178
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:32.079
<v Speaker 10>several weeks. So those schedules just brutal. But you know,

1179
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:33.920
<v Speaker 10>we've got the guys that can go turn it around,

1180
00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:35.679
<v Speaker 10>and you know, I'm still confident in those guys.

1181
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:38.559
<v Speaker 1>People knocking the offense, of course, that's what fans do,

1182
00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:41.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's too soon that I have no idea what

1183
00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:43.360
<v Speaker 1>to make of this offense yet. And I'm sure you

1184
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.039
<v Speaker 1>know more about this stuff than I do, but it's

1185
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:47.960
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be tough after this week, isn't it.

1186
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:51.039
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you know you said it didn't get any easier,

1187
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:53.920
<v Speaker 10>you know, with with Georgia and that defense coming into town.

1188
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:56.159
<v Speaker 10>So you know it is it is kind of hard

1189
00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:58.519
<v Speaker 10>to see what what we have yet offensively, you know,

1190
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:00.719
<v Speaker 10>because you know we got to you know, a little

1191
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:02.679
<v Speaker 10>over half a game in week one with the weather

1192
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:05.119
<v Speaker 10>and then you know didn't play well at all, you know,

1193
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:07.920
<v Speaker 10>only thirty yards passing or so in Week two. So

1194
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:10.480
<v Speaker 10>you know, these guys, you know, just have to get

1195
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:12.239
<v Speaker 10>it gone, get it to you know, get everyone on

1196
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:15.079
<v Speaker 10>the same page and executing a game plan, and you know,

1197
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:17.199
<v Speaker 10>and it takes everyone. You know, it takes the you know,

1198
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:20.519
<v Speaker 10>the offensive line given protection and brought making quick decisions, receivers,

1199
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:22.679
<v Speaker 10>you know, getting that out of breaks, catching football is

1200
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:25.039
<v Speaker 10>getting separation from the defenders, and you know, it takes

1201
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:26.960
<v Speaker 10>all eleven guys on that side of the ball to

1202
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:28.719
<v Speaker 10>make it, make it work and make it look good.

1203
00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:30.559
<v Speaker 10>So you know, hopefully they can bounce back a little

1204
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:33.119
<v Speaker 10>this week and get a little momentum and build on that.

1205
00:58:33.119 --> 00:58:35.760
<v Speaker 1>That's my conversation with Tim Katsch back in the fall,

1206
00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:38.719
<v Speaker 1>and he was recognized prior to a UK football game

1207
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:41.000
<v Speaker 1>that was back in September when things were still looking

1208
00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:44.920
<v Speaker 1>looking better for the Wildcats. But life is good to Tim.

1209
00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:48.159
<v Speaker 1>He's got his healthy family and he's going into the

1210
00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:51.280
<v Speaker 1>College Football Hall of Fame tonight. It is out in

1211
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas, and it's going to be somewhere on ESPN

1212
00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:57.159
<v Speaker 1>if you want to check it out. Coming up next,

1213
00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:01.280
<v Speaker 1>David Sisk if Cats Illustrated, he'll break down Kentucky and Gonzaga.

1214
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:03.039
<v Speaker 1>That's all I had here on the Big bon sid

1215
00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:05.880
<v Speaker 1>sat joining us now as a guy we love talking

1216
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:10.320
<v Speaker 1>basketball with David Sisk of Cats Illustrated, and he was

1217
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:11.760
<v Speaker 1>on you might hurt him a little bit with Tom

1218
00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:16.519
<v Speaker 1>Leach yesterday morning talking about Kentucky Gonzaga coach. I appreciate

1219
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:17.239
<v Speaker 1>you joining us.

1220
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:18.800
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, one or two.

1221
00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to dive a little bit deeper into that game. David.

1222
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Of course, basketball recruiting writer for both Kentucky and North Carolina.

1223
00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:29.960
<v Speaker 1>We'll get the recruiting a little bit later, but uh,

1224
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:31.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to pick up where you kind of left

1225
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:34.440
<v Speaker 1>off with Tom. Let's go to the first half of

1226
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that game and tell me. And you posted a bit

1227
00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:41.719
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter what was going wrong for the Wildcasts beyond

1228
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:45.760
<v Speaker 1>just not making shots, but there were defensive breakdowns and

1229
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:46.800
<v Speaker 1>problems like that.

1230
00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:54.960
<v Speaker 8>Defensively, Gonzaga is one of those teams and there's a

1231
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:57.599
<v Speaker 8>lot like them. They're very talented and when you let

1232
00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:02.159
<v Speaker 8>them get happy, that snowball turned into an avalanche, and

1233
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:04.800
<v Speaker 8>it did the first half, and a lot of it

1234
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:10.960
<v Speaker 8>came and they made some shots. Let's start out with that. Yeah,

1235
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:15.159
<v Speaker 8>And it was funny because the way Kentucky looked in

1236
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:17.639
<v Speaker 8>the first half was the way Gonzaga looked at the second,

1237
01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:21.920
<v Speaker 8>and you know, and then Kentucky made shots that they

1238
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.000
<v Speaker 8>didn't make in the first they made in the second,

1239
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:27.400
<v Speaker 8>so you know, the script was flipped there. You know,

1240
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:30.239
<v Speaker 8>they missed an easy shot. I think Kentucky had a

1241
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:33.000
<v Speaker 8>little bit to do with that. But in the first half,

1242
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:37.239
<v Speaker 8>I just felt like number one day go so much

1243
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:41.679
<v Speaker 8>with nim Hard and he is predominantly getting to his

1244
01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:45.199
<v Speaker 8>right hand and they allowed him to do that, and

1245
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:47.679
<v Speaker 8>then I thought the help side was really bad and

1246
01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:51.719
<v Speaker 8>he saw those clips. I'm just you know, at one

1247
01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:56.320
<v Speaker 8>point Gonzaga was three for twenty four from three, so

1248
01:00:56.480 --> 01:00:58.880
<v Speaker 8>I can't figure out when he turns the corner how

1249
01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:01.639
<v Speaker 8>he can have a straight line drive down you know,

1250
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:04.880
<v Speaker 8>one side of the lane and you're looking at the back.

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<v Speaker 8>Guys can help and they're stretched out seven eight feet

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01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:13.199
<v Speaker 8>outside of the lane on really non shooters, So you've

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<v Speaker 8>got to be able to provide more help. You talk

1254
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:19.880
<v Speaker 8>about North Carolina. North Carolina is really bad defensively, and

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<v Speaker 8>that's what I've seen from them this year. And that's

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01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:25.719
<v Speaker 8>one big thing I've seen backtag guys just letting the

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01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:28.679
<v Speaker 8>driver go to the rim and not stepping in. It's

1258
01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:32.280
<v Speaker 8>like they stayed glued to the shooter. And Kentucky's not

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<v Speaker 8>a bad defensive team, and you know, if everything I've

1260
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.760
<v Speaker 8>seen this year, you know, that was their total outlier.

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<v Speaker 8>Because I've said, Kentucky, I feel like they're tough. I

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<v Speaker 8>feel like they're competitive. You know, they're willing defenders, and

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<v Speaker 8>I think that stuff travels. So that was by far

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<v Speaker 8>the first or the worst defensive half that I've seen

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<v Speaker 8>this year. But they made adjustments and then showed that

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01:01:58.079 --> 01:01:59.920
<v Speaker 8>toughness in the second half. You know, they give up

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<v Speaker 8>fifty points in the first half, tweety nine second.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm glad you brought up toughness because I'm watching

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01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:09.840
<v Speaker 1>that first half and I'm thinking, man, Gonzaga, as any

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01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:12.559
<v Speaker 1>school obviously would do any team. They studied the heck

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<v Speaker 1>out of that Clemson video, and not as physically strong

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<v Speaker 1>as Clemson, but just in terms of the way then

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<v Speaker 1>Zaga went after Kentucky, I mean, tried to go right

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<v Speaker 1>through them. And it worked for the first twenty minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it did. On offensive end, it did. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 8>so much of that was around them hard. And then

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<v Speaker 8>you know, Graham I k looked like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 8>second coming of a kim Olajuwon or somebody you know

1280
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:40.480
<v Speaker 8>in the first half. But in the second half you

1281
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:43.960
<v Speaker 8>could see he missed some shots around a rem Uh

1282
01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:47.719
<v Speaker 8>you know, they jumped into the zone into one thirty one,

1283
01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:52.599
<v Speaker 8>and uh, you know, he really got tentative in the

1284
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:55.480
<v Speaker 8>mid That was naughty strength, that mid post jumper, and

1285
01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:58.880
<v Speaker 8>you could see he's like, well, I wanted I've got

1286
01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:01.000
<v Speaker 8>the shot, I don't want to shoot it. I better

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01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:03.760
<v Speaker 8>shoot it. So and then, like we said, just miss

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01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:06.559
<v Speaker 8>some shots. He's a mechanical a little bit on his

1289
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:10.639
<v Speaker 8>turnaround jumpers. It's got smooth. And the one thing Kentucky

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01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:12.440
<v Speaker 8>was able to do was hit the boards. That was

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01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:16.519
<v Speaker 8>another big thing. First half rebounding, and that was one thing.

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<v Speaker 8>You're able to get out and run when and I

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01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:25.360
<v Speaker 8>know this from my coaching experience in high school particularly,

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01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:29.480
<v Speaker 8>the best running teams you'll ever have is when your

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01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:32.239
<v Speaker 8>guards know that you've got a guy inside that's gonna

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01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:35.119
<v Speaker 8>grab every rebound. They don't have to stay they can

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01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:37.239
<v Speaker 8>get out to the races, but if you're not sure,

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01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:40.199
<v Speaker 8>you have to stay in and help. Well, the second

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<v Speaker 8>and a half, Kentucky just started keeping boards alive. And

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01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:45.639
<v Speaker 8>there was a lot of times they may not grab

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01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:48.559
<v Speaker 8>a clean rebound. They're just the ball comes off the

1302
01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:51.280
<v Speaker 8>rim and they're just tipping it, tipping it, keeping it alive.

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01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:53.880
<v Speaker 8>And then after about three tips that to get the boards.

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<v Speaker 8>But that was huge. There weren't a whole lot and

1305
01:03:56.559 --> 01:03:59.280
<v Speaker 8>just Okay, I'm gonna go up, knock these guys out away,

1306
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:01.440
<v Speaker 8>grab the rebound. I put him back. It was just

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01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:04.559
<v Speaker 8>keeping balls alive. And I know even at the end

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01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:07.800
<v Speaker 8>of the game when Carr had the foul shot and

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01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:10.079
<v Speaker 8>there was four seconds left, and I said, you know,

1310
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:14.400
<v Speaker 8>if he misses this, Kentucky's ability to keep the ball

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01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:17.000
<v Speaker 8>alive right here might take two seconds off the clock.

1312
01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:19.280
<v Speaker 8>You know, where they can't get the ball up before

1313
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:21.960
<v Speaker 8>now it didn't, but you know, they battled for that

1314
01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:25.199
<v Speaker 8>board even if one guy didn't, so you know, that

1315
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:27.679
<v Speaker 8>was a huge issue. Then you get to the second

1316
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.159
<v Speaker 8>half and we may go into that, but you know,

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01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:33.360
<v Speaker 8>Pope's adjustments and I feel like we're really spun on.

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01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:35.320
<v Speaker 8>And then the team played like we can talk about

1319
01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:38.119
<v Speaker 8>those adjustments if you want to, but they played a

1320
01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:38.920
<v Speaker 8>lot more fiscally.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, first of all in the second half of

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01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:46.599
<v Speaker 1>the biggest adjustment was just Kentucky's approach, you know, you know,

1323
01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:50.840
<v Speaker 1>psychologically or whatever. They just played harder, didn't They.

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01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:56.159
<v Speaker 8>They did, And yeah, I think there was confidence. I think,

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01:04:56.840 --> 01:05:01.119
<v Speaker 8>you know, defensively and offensively both. And I kind of

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01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:04.920
<v Speaker 8>felt like there was a clip there and I'm not

1327
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:08.199
<v Speaker 8>putting up yet, I'm going to, but there was a

1328
01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:14.840
<v Speaker 8>clip like six minutes in to the second half, and

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01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:19.639
<v Speaker 8>there was a possession where Gonzaga kept grabbing the offensive

1330
01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:23.599
<v Speaker 8>board and they missed three three pointers in one possession.

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01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:26.760
<v Speaker 8>And that was the point that I was thinking, because

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01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:29.000
<v Speaker 8>Kentucky was starting to get it going off instantly a

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01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:31.880
<v Speaker 8>little bit, and I'm like, you know, Kentucky can win

1334
01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:35.000
<v Speaker 8>this game as far as face as that sounds, because

1335
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:39.119
<v Speaker 8>Gonzaga has totally lost faith in the ability to make

1336
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:44.559
<v Speaker 8>a shot and Kentucky was scoring easier than Gonzaga was scoring,

1337
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:48.519
<v Speaker 8>and that's always the thing to look for. But you know,

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01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:51.039
<v Speaker 8>in the second half, like you said, they played harder,

1339
01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:52.920
<v Speaker 8>they defended better, they went to.

1340
01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:53.719
<v Speaker 3>The boards more.

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01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:55.880
<v Speaker 8>But I think they played with more confidence. But you

1342
01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:57.760
<v Speaker 8>know they've done that. I got down the dude who

1343
01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:01.199
<v Speaker 8>came back. They were down pretty good Glimpson and came back.

1344
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:03.320
<v Speaker 8>So you know, this is a team that does that.

1345
01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:06.159
<v Speaker 8>They don't. They've got a lot of experience or older

1346
01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:09.159
<v Speaker 8>they don't. They're not gonna roll over, so you know,

1347
01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:12.039
<v Speaker 8>and that that's something in the past maybe a team's done,

1348
01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:16.559
<v Speaker 8>but this Kentucky team won't do that now. The things

1349
01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:18.480
<v Speaker 8>that I noticed in the second and a half was

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01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:22.559
<v Speaker 8>they denied nim Hard getting to his right hand and

1351
01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:25.360
<v Speaker 8>that was huge. They made him go left, They asked

1352
01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:28.159
<v Speaker 8>him he never bought the ball down a mentally, always

1353
01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:31.360
<v Speaker 8>brought it upside. For whatever reason, it seemed like it

1354
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:34.039
<v Speaker 8>was more and it makes sense he brings the ball

1355
01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:36.400
<v Speaker 8>down to the left side. That way he can go

1356
01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:39.079
<v Speaker 8>to his right hand and get to the middle and

1357
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:44.960
<v Speaker 8>uh Kentucky iceed him and they just faced him up.

1358
01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:47.320
<v Speaker 8>They faced the sideline and they made him go left.

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01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:50.760
<v Speaker 8>And when they went into the one three one zone,

1360
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:55.280
<v Speaker 8>not only did it make uh gunzag a tentative, but

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01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:58.159
<v Speaker 8>one three why not the two three? Well, he can

1362
01:06:58.199 --> 01:07:00.599
<v Speaker 8>go wherever he wants to the two three. But when

1363
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:02.519
<v Speaker 8>you have the one three one, you have that one

1364
01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:04.960
<v Speaker 8>defender up on top play in the middle. Guess what,

1365
01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:07.280
<v Speaker 8>he can't drive to his right hand in the middle.

1366
01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:09.840
<v Speaker 8>You know, it keeps him pinned to his side. So

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01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:14.159
<v Speaker 8>I thought that just not only running aid zone, but

1368
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:16.800
<v Speaker 8>these zone that they ran to one three one was

1369
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:19.519
<v Speaker 8>very strategic. And then down toward the end of the game,

1370
01:07:19.880 --> 01:07:23.079
<v Speaker 8>I felt like, you know, watching it live, I said, well,

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01:07:23.159 --> 01:07:26.960
<v Speaker 8>Kentucky has going under all these screens, the non shooters,

1372
01:07:27.039 --> 01:07:29.400
<v Speaker 8>and but it was actually later in the game when

1373
01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:32.000
<v Speaker 8>they did. When you watch when I watched the replay,

1374
01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:34.440
<v Speaker 8>it always looks different than it does live once you

1375
01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:37.199
<v Speaker 8>start slowing it down and running the plays back and

1376
01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:39.920
<v Speaker 8>forth and all that. But you know, late in the game,

1377
01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:42.400
<v Speaker 8>you could say they were going under every screen late,

1378
01:07:42.519 --> 01:07:44.559
<v Speaker 8>so they're gonna say, hey, we're just gonna make you

1379
01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:47.400
<v Speaker 8>bees from outside, So I thought there was some really

1380
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:48.440
<v Speaker 8>good adjustments there.

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<v Speaker 1>How surprised, David, were you to see that? One three one?

1382
01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see that coming.

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01:07:55.119 --> 01:07:59.840
<v Speaker 8>Well, it was funny because you know, you were talking

1384
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:02.719
<v Speaker 8>about going over on Tom's show, and I told he

1385
01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:06.960
<v Speaker 8>said that. Coach Pope said afterwards that you know, he

1386
01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:09.800
<v Speaker 8>had really kind of nervous about going to the zone,

1387
01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:12.280
<v Speaker 8>but he didn't have a choice. It was out of desperation.

1388
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:16.159
<v Speaker 8>That makes sense. So you know they're having trouble guarding them,

1389
01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:19.319
<v Speaker 8>so it makes total sense. A lot of times it

1390
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:21.279
<v Speaker 8>could be a deal. I've done it in high school

1391
01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:24.319
<v Speaker 8>where you're like, we're not even practiceing zone, but this

1392
01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:26.479
<v Speaker 8>other team is red hot. We just got to do

1393
01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:28.520
<v Speaker 8>something to get out out of the rhythm. You know,

1394
01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:31.239
<v Speaker 8>we might try to press, we might try to go

1395
01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:35.239
<v Speaker 8>to a zone, just nothing else, just just just to

1396
01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:38.359
<v Speaker 8>slow down to obvious rhythm that they have. And I

1397
01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:40.800
<v Speaker 8>think that was a big key there. But he said

1398
01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:43.720
<v Speaker 8>that he had kind of threatened to do it, but

1399
01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:46.520
<v Speaker 8>the zone had looked so bad in practice that he didn't.

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01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:49.039
<v Speaker 8>But the reason that looked bad practice, you're running against

1401
01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:51.399
<v Speaker 8>all these shooters, you know, you're trying to run zone

1402
01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:54.199
<v Speaker 8>on Kobe Brandt, so you know what's going to happen.

1403
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:57.399
<v Speaker 8>But you know I made the quote to Tom. I said, well,

1404
01:08:57.439 --> 01:08:59.880
<v Speaker 8>it's funny. I said, John Caller Perry threat the coach

1405
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:03.960
<v Speaker 8>out for twelve years and never did it. Mark Pope

1406
01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:06.520
<v Speaker 8>runs it apparently the first time he needs it, so

1407
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:07.560
<v Speaker 8>it was a great move.

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01:09:08.359 --> 01:09:11.880
<v Speaker 1>David Sis is a recruiting analyst. You see his work

1409
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and CAT Illustrated and we love talking basketball with David

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01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:19.600
<v Speaker 1>more after the break here on The Big Bloom Siders

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01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:22.199
<v Speaker 1>six thirty. Welcome back to talking with coach David Sis,

1412
01:09:22.199 --> 01:09:25.039
<v Speaker 1>basketball recruiting writer for UK and North Carolina for the

1413
01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Rivals Network. You see his work on CAT Illustrated. You

1414
01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:31.520
<v Speaker 1>touched on something there prior to the break. He talked

1415
01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:35.840
<v Speaker 1>about a team that really believed in its coach, you know,

1416
01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:41.239
<v Speaker 1>in that second half, and obviously that's important, David, But

1417
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:43.920
<v Speaker 1>why bring that up, because it's funny you brought that up.

1418
01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Jack Gibbons on the postgame show, he kept talking about

1419
01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he just thought, among other things, the

1420
01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:55.119
<v Speaker 1>reason Kentucky was able to come back was they just

1421
01:09:55.279 --> 01:10:00.279
<v Speaker 1>kept believing they could. And you can't do anything nless

1422
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:03.039
<v Speaker 1>you believe in it. It was pretty obvious. But it's

1423
01:10:03.079 --> 01:10:05.439
<v Speaker 1>easy to say for you and me. But when you're

1424
01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:09.159
<v Speaker 1>in hostile territory a couple of thousand miles from home,

1425
01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:13.239
<v Speaker 1>they're almost the entire inter screaming against and you're down sixteen.

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01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:16.079
<v Speaker 1>That's easier said than done, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 8>It is? And I believe, like I said, they believe

1428
01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:20.800
<v Speaker 8>in the system. I think they believe in each other.

1429
01:10:22.079 --> 01:10:26.760
<v Speaker 8>And now things happen during the year and coach Pope's

1430
01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:29.279
<v Speaker 8>a pretty positive guy. But you'll see a lot of

1431
01:10:29.319 --> 01:10:32.399
<v Speaker 8>times coaches get into it with players in the alien

1432
01:10:32.439 --> 01:10:37.479
<v Speaker 8>eight and now a losing streak will kind of change

1433
01:10:37.479 --> 01:10:40.119
<v Speaker 8>some players' minds that they may not have confidence. But

1434
01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:43.239
<v Speaker 8>here's the thing. He's come in and had early success.

1435
01:10:43.359 --> 01:10:46.439
<v Speaker 8>It's been a fun style for them to play. And

1436
01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:50.000
<v Speaker 8>you know, I think he goes in at the half

1437
01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:52.600
<v Speaker 8>and I could see him being pretty positive with him

1438
01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:56.039
<v Speaker 8>and saying, hey, you know this is we're not out

1439
01:10:56.079 --> 01:10:57.720
<v Speaker 8>of it. This is what we got to do, and

1440
01:10:57.760 --> 01:11:00.760
<v Speaker 8>I feel good about this. These are the adjustment That's

1441
01:11:00.760 --> 01:11:02.920
<v Speaker 8>one thing players want to know. They want to come

1442
01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:06.479
<v Speaker 8>in and say, Okay, what's the adjustments that we're going

1443
01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:08.319
<v Speaker 8>to do. If the coach just sit there and say

1444
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:10.079
<v Speaker 8>we're going to do the same old thing, it doesn't

1445
01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:12.640
<v Speaker 8>have any answers, then they would come begin to doubt him.

1446
01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:15.880
<v Speaker 8>But then you see, and you know, Kentucky got back

1447
01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:19.039
<v Speaker 8>into it early in the second half, so as they

1448
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:22.039
<v Speaker 8>trimmed that thing down and they could see the effects

1449
01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:25.640
<v Speaker 8>of what the defensive adjustments were. You know, if you're

1450
01:11:26.119 --> 01:11:28.399
<v Speaker 8>from you know, I play in days. If I'm playing

1451
01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:31.039
<v Speaker 8>against the guy and I'm defending him, I can tell

1452
01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:33.920
<v Speaker 8>all of a sudden, you know, players sense fear, and

1453
01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:37.720
<v Speaker 8>players sensed doubt in the opponent. So as soon as

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01:11:37.720 --> 01:11:39.960
<v Speaker 8>they begin to see that, you know, it's kind of

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01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:45.479
<v Speaker 8>like shark circling and bloody waters. So so yeah, I

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01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:49.079
<v Speaker 8>just think the whole I think they could see what

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01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:52.479
<v Speaker 8>he was doing was working, His approach was working. I

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01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:55.079
<v Speaker 8>think they enjoyed playing for and I think they enjoyed

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01:11:55.159 --> 01:11:58.760
<v Speaker 8>playing will meet each other and and I think you

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01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:01.560
<v Speaker 8>know it was obvious Saturday, How in.

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01:12:01.479 --> 01:12:05.159
<v Speaker 1>The world, in your opinion, did Kentucky manage this comeback

1462
01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:10.760
<v Speaker 1>without Lamont Butler from the start, and then they lose

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01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:15.680
<v Speaker 1>kerk Kriesa to an injury. But starting with Butler, you know,

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01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:17.399
<v Speaker 1>because you were talking about how good in them hard

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01:12:17.439 --> 01:12:20.479
<v Speaker 1>can be, and yet they were able to make defensive

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01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:24.319
<v Speaker 1>adjustments to help minimize him as best they could in

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01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:26.359
<v Speaker 1>the second half. But as soon as I heard David

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01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:29.039
<v Speaker 1>no lamant, Butler though, well there goes their chance and

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01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:31.960
<v Speaker 1>all win. So that bed even more impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:36.279
<v Speaker 8>I'm not gonna sit here and begin like I know everything.

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01:12:37.439 --> 01:12:39.199
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna be honest with you. You know, we had

1473
01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:43.920
<v Speaker 8>to do predictions. I cat illustrated, and I wasn't sure

1474
01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:45.479
<v Speaker 8>if he was going to play or not. And I'll

1475
01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:50.399
<v Speaker 8>picked on zag up about seven, right, But I think too,

1476
01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:55.680
<v Speaker 8>you have to learn what you've got. And you know,

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01:12:56.760 --> 01:13:00.760
<v Speaker 8>let's take, for example, take the college football playoffs, and

1478
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:03.119
<v Speaker 8>you know, even the playoffs last week, you know, we

1479
01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:07.560
<v Speaker 8>are in playoff games, conference championship games. Rather, I mean

1480
01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:10.720
<v Speaker 8>you kind of go in and you watch these teams

1481
01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:13.079
<v Speaker 8>and you really don't know what this and you's got,

1482
01:13:13.960 --> 01:13:19.399
<v Speaker 8>and you know, you go into the tournament play here

1483
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:22.039
<v Speaker 8>and people are wondering, well, we really don't know who

1484
01:13:22.079 --> 01:13:25.159
<v Speaker 8>Indiana is and all these teams that have really not

1485
01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:29.279
<v Speaker 8>played people, and you don't know. But I think this

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01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:31.880
<v Speaker 8>is a valuable week for coach Pope, because I guarantee

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01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:35.119
<v Speaker 8>you right now he's got a better idea of what

1488
01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:37.359
<v Speaker 8>he's got than you do a week ago, and you

1489
01:13:37.439 --> 01:13:42.000
<v Speaker 8>have to play these games to do that. So I

1490
01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:45.319
<v Speaker 8>think that's very, very important. So you know, I think

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01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:49.479
<v Speaker 8>he learns in this situation what he's got. Like you said,

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01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:52.640
<v Speaker 8>I wouldn't have given him really a chance. Well I

1493
01:13:52.680 --> 01:13:55.640
<v Speaker 8>shouldn't say a chance, but I thought, you know that

1494
01:13:55.680 --> 01:13:57.960
<v Speaker 8>they were you know, it was an uphill battle yet

1495
01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:00.000
<v Speaker 8>about labat Butler, that's a better way to put it.

1496
01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:04.319
<v Speaker 8>But you know, then Chrisa goes down. But then you've

1497
01:14:04.359 --> 01:14:07.880
<v Speaker 8>got Jackson Robinson and you know they'd already cut into

1498
01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:10.920
<v Speaker 8>the lead some but a couple of things happened. You've

1499
01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:15.880
<v Speaker 8>got Jackson Robinson the ball in his hands more, and

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01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:18.319
<v Speaker 8>he got really hot in the second half. I think

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01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:20.640
<v Speaker 8>maybe he had fourteen point or so second half of

1502
01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:23.399
<v Speaker 8>this one shot and you know, he really got hot

1503
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:25.479
<v Speaker 8>from the mid range. So he's able to have the

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01:14:25.479 --> 01:14:28.119
<v Speaker 8>ball in his hands and come off that ball screen

1505
01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:32.479
<v Speaker 8>and pull up. But I felt too like as soon

1506
01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:35.039
<v Speaker 8>as he came in, Gonzaga kept trying to trap in

1507
01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:38.039
<v Speaker 8>a half court and he did a good job getting

1508
01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:39.920
<v Speaker 8>the ball out of there. And I thought one of

1509
01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:42.319
<v Speaker 8>the big factors of the game was when they got

1510
01:14:42.319 --> 01:14:44.520
<v Speaker 8>the ball out of the double team. They had four

1511
01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:46.560
<v Speaker 8>on three and Kentucky was able to make them pay.

1512
01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:48.600
<v Speaker 8>Almost every time they got the ball out, they were

1513
01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:52.159
<v Speaker 8>able to score. So I think maybe, you know, Gonzaga

1514
01:14:52.239 --> 01:14:54.680
<v Speaker 8>might have got a little over confident with that. Robinson

1515
01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:57.520
<v Speaker 8>turned out to be a good point guard. And I'm

1516
01:14:57.520 --> 01:15:02.000
<v Speaker 8>going to say this, I just think that, you know,

1517
01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:05.000
<v Speaker 8>Chris that brings you some things. He's energetic, he's a

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01:15:05.039 --> 01:15:07.960
<v Speaker 8>good pass for man, he's that discipline. Defensively, I mean

1519
01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:10.960
<v Speaker 8>he's bouncing around all over the place and reaching and

1520
01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:12.600
<v Speaker 8>and you know, he's always trying to come up at

1521
01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:15.720
<v Speaker 8>still and he's running himself out at the bad angles

1522
01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:18.680
<v Speaker 8>on screens. And Robinson was just a little bit more

1523
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:21.640
<v Speaker 8>solid and like you know, obviously he had a hotter hand,

1524
01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:25.760
<v Speaker 8>you know, Offensively, I think he's a better defender, and uh,

1525
01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:28.640
<v Speaker 8>you know, Robinson was the guy that they needed. I

1526
01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:31.039
<v Speaker 8>don't know if Chris stays in at the point guard,

1527
01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:32.760
<v Speaker 8>to be honest with me, if they win the game.

1528
01:15:33.960 --> 01:15:36.119
<v Speaker 8>I just thought Robinson was the right guy at the

1529
01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:39.000
<v Speaker 8>right time. And it's just you know, a happenstance that

1530
01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:41.000
<v Speaker 8>they found him. Now you want christ in the lineup,

1531
01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:43.279
<v Speaker 8>and you hated Hurt. I'm not knocking him at all,

1532
01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:46.039
<v Speaker 8>but I mean, I think Jackson Robinson was the guy

1533
01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:47.439
<v Speaker 8>that they needed for that game.

1534
01:15:48.239 --> 01:15:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Before I let you go, we got to talk about

1535
01:15:49.880 --> 01:15:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Carr. He was literally the biggest difference I thought

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01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:55.159
<v Speaker 1>in the second half.

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<v Speaker 8>He is and I like him, and you know, you

1538
01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:04.199
<v Speaker 8>you'll hear. I'm on a couple of DM friends and

1539
01:16:04.239 --> 01:16:07.000
<v Speaker 8>if there's a couple of dozen on it, the guys

1540
01:16:07.039 --> 01:16:08.880
<v Speaker 8>on each one and they're die hard. So you know

1541
01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:11.000
<v Speaker 8>how that goes. You love a player in one minute,

1542
01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:14.039
<v Speaker 8>you hate him the next one. And but you know

1543
01:16:14.079 --> 01:16:17.359
<v Speaker 8>when you're a fan. But I love I love car

1544
01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:20.119
<v Speaker 8>I love the way he plays. And I was told

1545
01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:23.880
<v Speaker 8>by guys around Lake Forest, you know, when he left,

1546
01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:25.840
<v Speaker 8>he said, look, you're going to see a guy that

1547
01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:28.119
<v Speaker 8>looks like him. It's about six or eleven, and everybody

1548
01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:31.439
<v Speaker 8>thinks it's a stretch. He's skilled, but he's not a stretch.

1549
01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:34.319
<v Speaker 8>He's a rugged guy. He's rugging down around the post.

1550
01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:37.159
<v Speaker 8>He likes to create contact and finish around the bucket,

1551
01:16:37.600 --> 01:16:39.920
<v Speaker 8>you know, and that's what you've seen. And Pope's done

1552
01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:45.039
<v Speaker 8>a really good job utilizing him. And I felt like

1553
01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:48.800
<v Speaker 8>Saturday night he got him into spots. I really thought

1554
01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:51.600
<v Speaker 8>he ran a good game plan to get him to

1555
01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:55.840
<v Speaker 8>his spots. It wasn't like, Okay, here's the we're going

1556
01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:57.840
<v Speaker 8>to give you the ball. You go one on five

1557
01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:00.960
<v Speaker 8>and create something. It wasn't that they cross screened him

1558
01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:03.680
<v Speaker 8>into the post. They back screened him into the post.

1559
01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:06.239
<v Speaker 8>People think they look at Pope and they think, well,

1560
01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:08.399
<v Speaker 8>he runs a lot of five out stuff. You've got

1561
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:11.840
<v Speaker 8>five guys behind the three point line checking up threees

1562
01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:13.840
<v Speaker 8>and that's not the case at all. I mean, he's

1563
01:17:13.840 --> 01:17:17.079
<v Speaker 8>playing two pigs on the flour. You know, well Williams

1564
01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:20.640
<v Speaker 8>and Pope and then Garrison comes in, so you've got

1565
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:24.000
<v Speaker 8>two guys almost all the time on the four. Six

1566
01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:27.000
<v Speaker 8>eleven are better. But they do a really good job,

1567
01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:30.439
<v Speaker 8>like I said, running some look to get that ball

1568
01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:33.880
<v Speaker 8>inside and then playing through the post. And you know,

1569
01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:37.720
<v Speaker 8>the announced team on ESPN realize that they gave Gonzaga

1570
01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:40.960
<v Speaker 8>a heavy dose of that and cars. You know, he's

1571
01:17:41.119 --> 01:17:43.720
<v Speaker 8>he's physical down there, and he finishes. He's a better

1572
01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:46.159
<v Speaker 8>finisher than the Mary Williams. Mary Williams misses a lot

1573
01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:49.159
<v Speaker 8>of shots around the real but you know Car's guy,

1574
01:17:49.239 --> 01:17:50.880
<v Speaker 8>you can go too down in there. He can get

1575
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:51.640
<v Speaker 8>your points.

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01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:54.479
<v Speaker 1>He is coaching David Sisk. That's how to find him

1577
01:17:54.479 --> 01:17:58.079
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. Basketball recruiting writer for Kentucky and North Carolina,

1578
01:17:58.119 --> 01:18:00.800
<v Speaker 1>part of the Rivals Network. Coach. It's a pleasure. Thank

1579
01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you so much for your time, and I'll be watching

1580
01:18:02.680 --> 01:18:04.439
<v Speaker 1>for you on social media.

1581
01:18:05.399 --> 01:18:06.680
<v Speaker 8>All right, thank you, my friend.

1582
01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:09.039
<v Speaker 1>That's going to do it for now. Reminder, Tomorrow night

1583
01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:12.319
<v Speaker 1>is Kentucky basketball. Kind of an odd Wednesday evening game

1584
01:18:12.800 --> 01:18:14.880
<v Speaker 1>and kind of an odd start time at eight o'clock,

1585
01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:18.279
<v Speaker 1>so that means local coverage begins at five thirty. Network

1586
01:18:18.279 --> 01:18:20.880
<v Speaker 1>covers at six thirty, and then Tom Leach and Jack

1587
01:18:20.920 --> 01:18:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Ebmans had the action coming up as the Wildcats take

1588
01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:26.840
<v Speaker 1>on Colgate. And then, as you well know, coming up Saturday,

1589
01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:30.199
<v Speaker 1>it's those Louisville Cardinals. That's a five point fifteen chip

1590
01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:34.479
<v Speaker 1>off in rupp Arena. The women are off until Saturday

1591
01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:37.840
<v Speaker 1>they play up at Purdue. That's a five o'clock start.

1592
01:18:37.920 --> 01:18:40.399
<v Speaker 1>Darren Hedrick will have that one for you as well.

1593
01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Jimmy Dikes. Thanks to David Sisk. That's a

1594
01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:45.880
<v Speaker 1>good night from the garage and Lexington number two.

1595
01:18:46.119 --> 01:18:50.600
<v Speaker 11>Chicken sal sand all the butter, the letters, the mayonnaise.

1596
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:52.239
<v Speaker 5>And a cup of coffee.

1597
01:18:52.399 --> 01:18:55.000
<v Speaker 11>Anything else. Yeah, Now, all you have to do is

1598
01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:57.720
<v Speaker 11>hold the chicken, bring me the toast, give me a

1599
01:18:57.840 --> 01:19:00.319
<v Speaker 11>check for the chicken salad sandwich, and you have broken

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01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:01.039
<v Speaker 11>any rules.

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01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:03.840
<v Speaker 3>You want me to hole the chicken, huh?

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01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:07.479
<v Speaker 11>I want you to hold it between your knees.
