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<v Speaker 1>Drew Eller could be a future starter.

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<v Speaker 2>For get the f out of here, Tod.

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<v Speaker 1>That's serious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so could Kenny Pickett.

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<v Speaker 1>No, the traits that Aller. Kenny Pickett was never talked

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<v Speaker 1>about as a potential first overall pick in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Aler was, and he might and he might have been

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<v Speaker 1>if he didn't go back to school this past year.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a bigger arm than Picket. He's stronger than Picket,

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<v Speaker 1>he p He's put up better numbers than Picket. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a more successful high school and collegiate career than Pickett,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. And they're talking about their reprogramming him essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear this story there? McCarthy's basically asking Aler

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<v Speaker 1>to unlearn everything he learned at Penn State because his

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<v Speaker 1>coaching was so bad there that they're redoing his footwork

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<v Speaker 1>is like everything, the way he processes. I'm telling you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Awler's ever going to be a future

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<v Speaker 1>all Pro, but I could see him making a Pro Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could see him being a starter in the

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<v Speaker 1>league for several years. I mean, from your hold up,

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<v Speaker 1>less than a fifty percent chance, okay, but definitely more

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<v Speaker 1>than twenty or twenty five Okay, okay, that's my true

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<v Speaker 1>come for the Mortal Kombat talk for the Drew Allery takes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, good shit. So Mortal Kombat Too is

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<v Speaker 2>where we're at here. We've both been looking forward to

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<v Speaker 2>this one. Is that fair to sund Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say so. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>First one was very fun. It was a COVID release.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember my biggest gripe. I enjoyed it because like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like, what are you going to do when it's

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<v Speaker 2>a remake of another movie that already came out. What's

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing you're gonna do? You're going to compare

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<v Speaker 2>that one to the remake? Now, obviously, the special effects

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety seven aren't going to compete with something

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty one, although I will I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the last time you've seen the ninety seven one.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen ninety nine?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, well there was two, right, yeah, but the second

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<v Speaker 2>one was atrocious. I'm saying the first one, ninety seven

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<v Speaker 2>the special effects are actually legit, Like you watch what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening in that and you're like, you know, it obviously

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't aged well. But given what they were working with

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<v Speaker 2>at ninety seven, the fact that this movie has these

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<v Speaker 2>kind of special effects is impressive and I had a

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<v Speaker 2>big gripe. So here's here's where I'm coming down on this.

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<v Speaker 2>The original was PG thirteen, which how do you do

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<v Speaker 2>Mortal Kombat Pg thirteen? They had some cool kills in it,

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<v Speaker 2>but oh, by and large, no blood, no, none of that.

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<v Speaker 2>This goes for the hard r but it's like CGI blood.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not practical effects blood, which is not my personal style.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even when Kano in the first one is

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<v Speaker 2>taking a beating from Sonya blade, he spits out CGI blood.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, really, you couldn't have given him a blood

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<v Speaker 2>capsule to spit the blood out there, like we can't

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<v Speaker 2>do it here? But no, it was CGI blood everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>and they kind of went that route again with it

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<v Speaker 2>this time. But I'd argue, other than Mortal Kombat Annihilation,

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<v Speaker 2>which was just utter trash, they really don't miss with these.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like you're watching Citizen Kame, but it's it

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<v Speaker 2>delivers on what you expect. And I thoroughly enjoyed the

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<v Speaker 2>first one, and I'd say this one. If you liked

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<v Speaker 2>the first one, you're gonna like this one.

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<v Speaker 1>My concern with these is always like Okay, why did

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<v Speaker 1>it take five years or six years or whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>was to make the sequel? Does that mean there there

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<v Speaker 1>was discord about the script? Was there? You know? Did

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<v Speaker 1>they rifle through a bunch of directors where they're casting problems?

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<v Speaker 1>That's my whole thing. But then you you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>find out that all the and basically the whole cast

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<v Speaker 1>came back, right, yep, that survived the first one was

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<v Speaker 1>back in this one, even the ones that didn't, even

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't spoiler alerts.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they say that in the first one. They're like,

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<v Speaker 2>just so you know, everybody can come back all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So, which I mean do you like that? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I just I feel like you run into the

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<v Speaker 1>Marvel thing and just not even the Marvel cinematic universe,

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<v Speaker 1>just Marvel comics in general.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no stakes, right, you know, if they actually wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to make this a cinematic universe and like here's the

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<v Speaker 2>Scorpion movie, here's the sub Zero movie, I would like

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<v Speaker 2>the way they're doing it, But it would have to

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<v Speaker 2>have a finite end point because it is the story

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<v Speaker 2>in the games. Because anyone who's ever played Mortal Kombat

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<v Speaker 2>one and then played Mortal Kombat four and then played

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<v Speaker 2>Mortal Kombat eleven, will realize ninety percent of the cast

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<v Speaker 2>is exactly the same, and so like, if these people

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<v Speaker 2>are dying all the time in the story, why am

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<v Speaker 2>I fighting them again? And there's a reason behind that

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<v Speaker 2>outside of just you know, the obvious marketability of certain

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<v Speaker 2>popular characters and whatnot, and this kind of leans into that.

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<v Speaker 2>And they say as much in the first one, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>none of this actually counted, and everybody's gonna come back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it kind I mean it counts, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm being a tongue in cheek here, but the.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, like that, I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, you know, watching knowing what had happened in

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<v Speaker 1>the first one, watching the way that this unfolded, you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of know, and like I didn't know. I'd like, ben,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't even looked this up. I would assume that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a sequel being.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I have to believe you don't end it

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<v Speaker 2>like that, and uh right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, but but so I'm watching it, I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why would I care about any of these characters dying

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<v Speaker 1>at the hands of another character? You know, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>for me. It's like, I know that they can come back,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe the conflict is like, hey, you killed me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sort of like what Sonia did too. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Then okay, it's like like an undefeated heavywood heavyweight fighter

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<v Speaker 1>losing to some guy. Well, then you know you're super

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<v Speaker 1>pumped for the rematch, right because now this guy who

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<v Speaker 1>had never lost before is going up against this guy

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<v Speaker 1>that did beat him and now me, and and now

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<v Speaker 1>that the stakes are higher because he's trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>his belt back. So I don't know, maybe there's something

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<v Speaker 1>to that with with the Mortal Kombat characters. But to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, special effects, the ones that come out that

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<v Speaker 1>came out in the last six years obviously significantly better.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. Did you have a problem, I mean, okay, So,

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<v Speaker 1>so there is a couple of things. Number one, when

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<v Speaker 1>Goro falls off in the original nineteen ninety seven, that

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<v Speaker 1>was so stupid. Yeah, I mean that that like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where oneself should recognize oneself and

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<v Speaker 1>understand how this is going to look to the viewers,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that they did the best they could. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was Hoki as heck, really, yeah, I did not

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<v Speaker 1>care for that. See it looks so stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is and I'm not putting on airs. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not I'm not trying to be difficult, but I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>I genuinely I had the feeling after the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one movie, and I'm having it again now. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know which Goro I like better, because I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the one hundred percent CGI Goro either.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I liked it.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like a point dude that like just had

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<v Speaker 2>four arms, and I was like, yeah, like and he

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<v Speaker 2>was imposing, you know, and all that jazz. He was

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<v Speaker 2>scary and like, now it's just like fighting, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like the Hulk or something like that. And it just

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<v Speaker 2>felt different.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for what it's worth. And I suppose when

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<v Speaker 1>they when they came out with Prince Goro in the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty version, they had to understand, like, Okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>there was a fight between the nineteen ninety seven Goro

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty twenty Goro, we have to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty girl would win and handily. Right, So obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty one is much more intimidating and as

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<v Speaker 1>a viewer, more badass. Sure, but you get to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of play the cards you're dealt and what you can yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what you can't do? Okay. I want to get your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on this. Carl Urban, who we had talked about, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>good a lot in the lead up to this is

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty three year old. I want to say, is

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<v Speaker 1>he an Australian actor New Zealand actor?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I believe Australian. Okay, I'm gonna double check that

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<v Speaker 2>now so no one calls me out.

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<v Speaker 1>So some of these actors you can tell.

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<v Speaker 2>New Zealand fifty to fifty chance, Okay, it's the Kei wei. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that fifty to fifty Australia or New Zealand is now.

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<v Speaker 1>There's way more Australian actors than New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 2>I meant. I meant just geographically speaking, I could have guessed,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was gethered, Yeah, he's Australian. Fifty to fifty chance,

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<v Speaker 2>I picked the wrong one.

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<v Speaker 1>Go maybe it could have been Tasmanian, you know. Okay, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>some of these actors you can tell that they're not

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<v Speaker 1>they're not an American actor. Yeah, Like because the accent

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<v Speaker 1>is seen, it seems a little off right, So right

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<v Speaker 1>away I'm like I'm noticing that, and that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>irritating me. But my big thing was, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>turn a fifty three year old actor playing a character

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<v Speaker 1>that you remember what Johnny Cage was like in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the first in the nineties ones. I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>was like what thirty, like the thirties maybe, and he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really I mean, was he at the peak of

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<v Speaker 1>his acting powers? Like the character? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>It was okay, yeah, he does the movie. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the part where you fall down and he's recording the

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<v Speaker 2>movie in the parking lot there.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so you're watching.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually modeled him after Jean Claude van Dam in THEE. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's what they were going for. I can look

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<v Speaker 2>that up.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't think it was a known actor. So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to what. So I was curious, how

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<v Speaker 1>are they gonna turn There.

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<v Speaker 2>Has to be a reason, Lynden Ashby, I never heard

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<v Speaker 2>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there has to be a reason. And why they

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<v Speaker 1>pick an actor in his early fifties. There's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be a purpose here, And sure enough, what do they do?

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's in the twilight of his acting career. Clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's the scene with the kid in the bar,

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<v Speaker 1>or not the kid, but the guy you know clearly younger. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I loved you growing up. You know. So this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is he has no family, at least it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>like he his family has no friends. And then what

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<v Speaker 1>did you make of the hokey like they were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be hilarious with the movie scene from his movie

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it was called. I thought that was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>It was well done.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, you know, watching him, like, God, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope this isn't the whole Like I hope this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>what the movies, you know what I mean, like in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of my head, and I'm like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing this up. So that's how we end up

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of like you could have made a

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineties. Yeah, just twenty thirty years later, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>That swag I still had that, yeah, exactly. And what

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<v Speaker 2>stuck out to me though, And I do appreciate Carl Urban.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he is typically good in most things that

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<v Speaker 2>he does. I found myself and I'm interested in your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on this. Hearkening back, there is a scene I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say it's in Taken three with Liam Neeson

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<v Speaker 2>where he has to jump.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, I'm just saying, you know, in case people

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<v Speaker 1>Taken three with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, But so there is a scene where he's jumping

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<v Speaker 2>a chain link fence and it sticks out to me,

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<v Speaker 2>uh so much because I remember I actually stopped. I

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<v Speaker 2>edits because he's so old that him looking coordinated getting

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<v Speaker 1>Count the edits they were.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like edit, edit, Edit, and I had to

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<v Speaker 2>sit there and I would re I rewound it over

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<v Speaker 2>and over like it was on.

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<v Speaker 1>But you talk about edits, are you saying like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>are you saying edits or just they're switching the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, switching the camera angle.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so they're covering up.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he looks like a sixty something year old man

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<v Speaker 2>climbing over a freaking chambeling fence.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And.

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<v Speaker 2>That is how I felt watching Carl Irvin in this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole movie, there were a lot of edits. There

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<v Speaker 2>were a lot of camera changes. However, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call it, and I was like, because he isn't known,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not John Wick, He's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he didn't really have like, as far as I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell, he doesn't have like any kind of martial arts, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And even when he's being a badass, like when he's

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<v Speaker 2>butchering the boys, he's not. It's not fighting, it's it's fruit, Yes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he might have been. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>did fine. I think he was a little out of

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<v Speaker 2>his wheelhouse. He is Johnny Cage the actor, Like with

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<v Speaker 2>the way I'm like, yeah, perfect casting in terms of hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Never Yeah, that whole movie was always in perfect spot.

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<v Speaker 2>What's ironic about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Though, Dude, you would get his ass kicked in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Fit like blood and like just this, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>was intentional.

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<v Speaker 1>Hair is perfectly quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's intentional. But like I remember being in

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<v Speaker 2>my mid twenties talking about the ninety seven Mortal Kombat

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, what'd you think about it? And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>the movie. The problem that movie had is every person

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<v Speaker 2>in that movie was either a good actor who sucked

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<v Speaker 2>at fighting or a good fighter who sucked at acting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good point.

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<v Speaker 2>And That is how I felt watching this again twenty something,

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<v Speaker 2>almost thirty years later. I was just like, man, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in here is either acting very well or fighting very well,

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<v Speaker 2>and very rarely are they doing both. There was some

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<v Speaker 2>hokey dialogue, but like I expect it, It's not even

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<v Speaker 2>like it's like old school. It's like Jean Claude van Dayam,

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<v Speaker 2>like like, you know, one liner's cheesiness and I'm here

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<v Speaker 2>for it. I gobbled it up. But the acting it

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<v Speaker 2>left something to be desired with some characters and then

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<v Speaker 2>other ones specifically it's stuck out with me. With Carl Urban,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, oh god, yeah, like you can

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<v Speaker 2>tell your fifty three year dogheah.

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<v Speaker 1>And even like the way he would speak, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just kind of it seemed forced, not forced.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed rehearsed, which obviously it was, yeah, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't come across as genuine. Speaking of which, if

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<v Speaker 1>I ever come up with something, I'm just gonna interrupt

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<v Speaker 1>our normal yeah, because I don't want to forget about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is something I found out after the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say. The dude's name is Ed Zoon.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the guy who created Mortal Kombat. He was

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<v Speaker 1>in this movie twice, only credited for one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>The one he wasn't credited for was towards the end

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<v Speaker 1>when there's the fight going on, the three way fight

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<v Speaker 1>and you hear the famous get over here. That's him,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the creator. And then the other time he was

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<v Speaker 1>actually in the film was he was the bartender. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Carl Urban, Yeah, that was the creator of Mortal Kombat.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so interesting. I've heard this movie is chalk to

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<v Speaker 2>the brim with fan service, and some of it is

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<v Speaker 2>very obvious. If you've ever played a Mortal Kombat game,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll notice that. But I didn't that stuff well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who's gonna I mean unless you are really

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<v Speaker 1>sure or you just go on the internet like I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not played this game in forever, even when

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<v Speaker 1>it was out, Ben, It's not like I was playing

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<v Speaker 1>it a ton. I would play it every now and then, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It was always more of a street fighter.

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<v Speaker 1>I was too. I like, I like street Fighter a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better, and I think for me, the main allure

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<v Speaker 1>with Mortal Kombat was for playing the game. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to play it because of all the hoopla surrounding it

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<v Speaker 1>in the media, and I was like, I'm missing out.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta check this out. And I played it and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, that's cool, but it's not like blew

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<v Speaker 1>me away cool or whatever. So so I was never

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<v Speaker 1>like a big Mortal Kombat guy. And basically the to

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<v Speaker 1>the level I know, the story and the not the

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<v Speaker 1>what do you call this the plot? No, no, not

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<v Speaker 1>the plot, the backstory. What do you call that. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a word for it, like a longer word, mythology, the mythology. God,

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to remember this song. I was on

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<v Speaker 1>your show yesterday too, and yeah, kind I gotta quit

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<v Speaker 1>drinking because I forget you know these stuff anyway, the mythology,

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<v Speaker 1>most of it, I know, is not from the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's from these movies. Sure you know so.

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<v Speaker 2>And I told you during that tease it's like the

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe I even said at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>last podcast, the uh. The story to Mortal Kombat is

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<v Speaker 2>more complex than Game of Thrones, Like if you really

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<v Speaker 2>start to dive into how it works, like Chao Khan

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<v Speaker 2>is like four tiers below how powerful stuff gets, and

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<v Speaker 2>it really does gets very Asian. Oh really, yeah, for

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<v Speaker 2>lack of a better term, like you get like it

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<v Speaker 2>gets very animated.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I'm not saying that Shao Khan. There's

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<v Speaker 1>like four levels above that.

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<v Speaker 2>As the story continues going, yeah, it turns out there

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<v Speaker 2>was like a master of ceremonies overseeing it who was

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<v Speaker 2>way more power. Okay, and then it turns out that

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<v Speaker 2>that guy was actually being puppet the NHS. You keep

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<v Speaker 2>on because it's it's the Marvel problem. Dragon ball Z

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<v Speaker 2>does this too, right, even Marvel. It's just like, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you show how bad ass Thanos is? Well, you

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<v Speaker 2>have him pick up the guy from Avengers one, the

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<v Speaker 2>bad guy and choke him without even trying, and be

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<v Speaker 2>like you spent an entire movie fighting this guy. I

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<v Speaker 2>killed him in seven seconds. Welcome to the new movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's the same principle.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the the footage and I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is real? Maybe I talk to you about this. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember. Some guy was at the cinema con yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he aied what you saw. And there's that scene

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<v Speaker 1>with the Council of Kang's and then doctor Doom. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god. You know, like we went from Thanos

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<v Speaker 1>to like, oh my god. He who remains in Kang

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<v Speaker 1>is like.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a million of this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, either're like, he's a million times more powerful than

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<v Speaker 1>legendary than Thanos, right a decade getting to Thanos or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was. Yeah, and and now all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden you ever moved on past Kang, wouldn't it be

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest marvel deeck of all time if they just

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<v Speaker 1>bring Jonathan Major's back. Oh yeah, Yeah, they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the balls for that. But yeah, that was yet they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not desperate enough. Yeah, I did not realize. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're the opening scene with King Jared in this film. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's his daughter's name, Kitana? Yes? And then his

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<v Speaker 1>wife's name is like Siren or something, so Sindel Sindel, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea. Those were those the debuts for

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<v Speaker 1>those characters in Immortal Kombat movie. I don't remember any

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<v Speaker 1>of those three from the previous three movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Sindel's in the sequel, Katana's in the sequels. Katana's like

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<v Speaker 2>the girl that helps Lou Kang in the Annihilation. In

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<v Speaker 2>the first one as well as Annihilation, there's like, remember

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<v Speaker 2>the woman, She's the one who puts the bucket of

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<v Speaker 2>water down and she's like you're gonna need to use

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<v Speaker 2>this to beat sub Zero and she's like, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>tell if she's good or bad. That was Katana and

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<v Speaker 2>then in Annihilation, Sindel was her mom and she was

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<v Speaker 2>evil but she was brainwashed and so she was like

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<v Speaker 2>a terrible actress and she was like, you will die

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<v Speaker 2>and like that's like the joke is Everyone's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>so you recorded that, you watched it back, you were

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<v Speaker 2>like perfect delivery.

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<v Speaker 1>We're moving on, right, So, so shauk I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>shau Kan. Maybe it's not Cha Khan, who's the one

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<v Speaker 1>that is. He's He's this is gonna sound so boorish.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the main bad guy, but he's not the fighter.

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<v Speaker 1>He's sort of like this grand wizard type.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm talking about. There's like tears too, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know his name, but I know what you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. You know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and I think like we might have talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this the first and not that we ever reviewed the

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<v Speaker 1>first Mortal Kombat. I'm sure we talked about it before

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<v Speaker 1>the actor who plays him, And I'm pretty sure I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not being racist by saying this, because I'm I should

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<v Speaker 1>have looked it up, but I almost positive the same

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<v Speaker 1>guy is the guy in Dark Knight who is laundering. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was that he's laundering the mob's money. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>every time I see this guy talk, all I can

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<v Speaker 1>hear is I'm really good at coul whatever, which is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you had Heroki hero Yuki Sonata I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he's been in a.

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<v Speaker 1>Time John Wick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in Rush Hour three, which was great, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're oh lost. He was un lost for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of seasons too. He was great. That was not him

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<v Speaker 1>fighting though, that had to be a stunt. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to believe, because that dude's like sixteen yeah something like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he did the fighting in the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, for all I know, it was c G.

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<v Speaker 2>I assisted. I wouldn't. I wouldn't begin to know. But

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you'd all right, it was a little simpler there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure you noticed this as well as I did. Uh, Cole,

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<v Speaker 2>who was the protagonist of the first one, was really

417
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<v Speaker 2>nothing more than like an extra in this one, like

418
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<v Speaker 2>he really.

419
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, However, I have to believe again the way that

420
00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:04.519
<v Speaker 1>they have the way that they have talked about and

421
00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the way that they executed this, Ben, this was gonna

422
00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:10.000
<v Speaker 1>be you know how like Star Wars did this too.

423
00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you're like a big part in one movie and

424
00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:15.880
<v Speaker 1>then you're nothing in the next movie, but then you're

425
00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:17.920
<v Speaker 1>like huge in the next you know what I mean.

426
00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that was like it's probably gonna set up

427
00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:22.079
<v Speaker 1>where he's going to be back to Like it.

428
00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Did trivialize the first movie in my opinion a little bit,

429
00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:27.240
<v Speaker 2>with how little they gave a shit about what he

430
00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:27.720
<v Speaker 2>was doing.

431
00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:30.559
<v Speaker 1>That's that's my point. Yeah, is like you know he

432
00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:33.079
<v Speaker 1>says in this movie, I said goodbye to my wife

433
00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:35.839
<v Speaker 1>and my daughter, knowing I may never see him again,

434
00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and and I'm good with that or whatever. And I'm like, Okay,

435
00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:42.680
<v Speaker 1>so we know what's gonna happen now. Yeah, that's the

436
00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:47.319
<v Speaker 1>easiest foreshadowing ever. And then I felt nothing. Yeah, I

437
00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:50.119
<v Speaker 1>mean I could be because all these I mean, they

438
00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:53.480
<v Speaker 1>can be brought back. Did Okay? Was this weird I

439
00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:56.119
<v Speaker 1>want to call him a maister, but he's not a master.

440
00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:01.359
<v Speaker 1>This weird guy that's helping bring these these people back

441
00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:03.119
<v Speaker 1>to life. You know who I'm talking about with the

442
00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:05.920
<v Speaker 1>bake up or whatever. Here reminds me of the guy

443
00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:08.559
<v Speaker 1>who brought you know, the Mountain back to like the

444
00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Game of Throne. Was he ever in any of these

445
00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:14.119
<v Speaker 1>other Mortal Kombats, Not that I can't. So then they

446
00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:18.440
<v Speaker 1>basically bring this hand of God in, like, Okay, we're

447
00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:21.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna have you bring back all these characters and oh,

448
00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:23.640
<v Speaker 1>by the way, anybody who dies in this one, because

449
00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:28.440
<v Speaker 1>they well I don't want to spoil anything, but a

450
00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:32.440
<v Speaker 1>reasonable person would probably expect him to bring back people

451
00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:34.599
<v Speaker 1>who died in this one in the third one. Now,

452
00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:37.039
<v Speaker 1>maybe it'll turn into a whole battle world type thing

453
00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:39.759
<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna be epic sure, or maybe it's just

454
00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:42.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna be the you know, maybe this is gonna be

455
00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:45.240
<v Speaker 1>like the next Fast Furious and it just makes it

456
00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:47.000
<v Speaker 1>just keeps going. I don't know, I feel like it

457
00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:47.319
<v Speaker 1>has to.

458
00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:49.119
<v Speaker 2>And for the record, just because I want to be

459
00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:52.559
<v Speaker 2>clear about this, the sources are split, and I don't

460
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<v Speaker 2>know anything about the website Superhero hype dot com. I've

461
00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:58.880
<v Speaker 2>heard of it, okay, but the the title of the

462
00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:02.160
<v Speaker 2>article that came out two days ago, why Mortal Kombat

463
00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:06.319
<v Speaker 2>three might not happen despite the sequel ts Apparently it all.

464
00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Dies into the box office that when when I hear

465
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<v Speaker 1>a headline like that.

466
00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:12.440
<v Speaker 2>It's it's you think is super clickbaity.

467
00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's my first initial.

468
00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Like they're claiming, it seems destined to underperform at the

469
00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:23.160
<v Speaker 2>box office. Sixty three million was was apparently estimated to

470
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:24.880
<v Speaker 2>earn eighty in the opening weekend.

471
00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Sixty three Yeah, so, which isn't terrible.

472
00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:30.160
<v Speaker 2>No, I'd argue, I'd be interested. I'm going to try

473
00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:31.559
<v Speaker 2>and find the budget for this one.

474
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, one of the things that's always

475
00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:37.160
<v Speaker 1>sort of held Mortal Kombat back is a lack of

476
00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:42.240
<v Speaker 1>a leading you know, a familiar leading man or woman. Yeah,

477
00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:45.359
<v Speaker 1>and I think Carl Urban. Can can we say that

478
00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Carl Urban is the biggest face that any of these

479
00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:50.000
<v Speaker 1>four movies have ever had.

480
00:22:50.880 --> 00:22:53.680
<v Speaker 2>What was the dude's name that was in Highlander he

481
00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:56.200
<v Speaker 2>was raiding in the first Yeah, I think that was

482
00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:59.079
<v Speaker 2>James Remar, wasn't it. Yeah? I think that was his name.

483
00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:01.279
<v Speaker 2>I seemed like, I'm all so like the fact that

484
00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:04.599
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember his name means the but he's more popular.

485
00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Totally more popular. Remar has always been a character actor,

486
00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:08.039
<v Speaker 1>if that is him?

487
00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think it is I want I want

488
00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:15.480
<v Speaker 2>to see here Raid in Mortal Combats, and that was.

489
00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:17.319
<v Speaker 1>The other thing. A lot of people, you know, back

490
00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:19.440
<v Speaker 1>in the nineties, nobody had an issue with it, but

491
00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:22.839
<v Speaker 1>they whitewashed that character. Yes, and obviously they could not

492
00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:23.160
<v Speaker 1>do that.

493
00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:24.759
<v Speaker 2>Christopher Lambert, Thank.

494
00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:27.119
<v Speaker 1>You, Chris. Christopher Lambert. How do I know this because

495
00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:29.599
<v Speaker 1>I work with a Chris Lambert at my fantasy football

496
00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:33.440
<v Speaker 1>company only Chris Lambert. My Chris Lambert is a woman, okay,

497
00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and people don't know that, and I get all these emails. Oh,

498
00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Chris is the man that dude's great and they have

499
00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:39.160
<v Speaker 1>no idea She's a woman.

500
00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:42.599
<v Speaker 2>That's tremendous. Christ Lambert, I take it back because other

501
00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:44.799
<v Speaker 2>than Mortal because I love Highlander. You don't know this

502
00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:47.599
<v Speaker 2>about me, but I love the first Highlander, and obviously

503
00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:49.519
<v Speaker 2>I love the Mortal Kombat movies. And now that I'm

504
00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:51.799
<v Speaker 2>looking at everything else he's ever done, it seems like

505
00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:53.359
<v Speaker 2>those were his two biggest movies. It.

506
00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:54.799
<v Speaker 1>I will say, all.

507
00:23:54.759 --> 00:23:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Right, Carl Urban's the biggest name I will I will

508
00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:57.200
<v Speaker 2>concede that.

509
00:23:57.440 --> 00:24:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I will say. Ricky Bobby did say he told us

510
00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:04.359
<v Speaker 1>that Highlander won the Academy Award for Best Movie Ever.

511
00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, exactly, you know, you know, just to go

512
00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:10.119
<v Speaker 2>off topic here for a second.

513
00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Did you watch a TV show and the movies? Yeah? Okay,

514
00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:15.440
<v Speaker 1>but like I was a child when the were they interrelated? Yeah?

515
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.640
<v Speaker 2>And the sequel even brought the characters from the TV

516
00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:21.440
<v Speaker 2>show and the movie and tied it all together. Not

517
00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:23.440
<v Speaker 2>nearly as good as the first one, but it was

518
00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:28.480
<v Speaker 2>actually a pretty interesting endeavor. But what sucks is and like,

519
00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:30.680
<v Speaker 2>what's what's even crazier about this is this happened when

520
00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:32.519
<v Speaker 2>I was like twenty four or twenty five years old.

521
00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:35.599
<v Speaker 2>But I was living in Oakland, which is in downtown Pittsburgh, and.

522
00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:39.599
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, yeah, no, congratulations on surviving.

523
00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, But I had friends of mine there and

524
00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:45.039
<v Speaker 2>they were like, I don't know what Highlander is. I'm like,

525
00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:47.079
<v Speaker 2>you don't know what Highlander is. I was like, I'm

526
00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:48.839
<v Speaker 2>gonna put it on right now. And we found it

527
00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:51.079
<v Speaker 2>on TV. We throw it on, Like on demand was

528
00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:53.799
<v Speaker 2>just taking off at this point. And it starts off

529
00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:57.559
<v Speaker 2>with Chris Lambert fighting another you know, immortal in like

530
00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:00.079
<v Speaker 2>a parking lot somewhere, almost like the first scene in

531
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Mortal Kombat. And we were watching it and there's like

532
00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:07.880
<v Speaker 2>the cheesiest lightning special effects coming around, and like it

533
00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:12.200
<v Speaker 2>was awful eighties special effects, and like all my friends

534
00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:14.240
<v Speaker 2>looked at we didn't get five minutes in there, like Ben,

535
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:15.920
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna wait for a remake. And I was like,

536
00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:17.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's kind of sad, but I agree with

537
00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:19.960
<v Speaker 2>you because if I didn't know how awesome this was,

538
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:22.079
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't want to sit around for this either. Like

539
00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:25.319
<v Speaker 2>it really has just fallen apart in terms that has

540
00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Sean Connery, that has there's a ton Clancy Brown's in it.

541
00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Sean Connery, he's playing a Spaniard and he doesn't even

542
00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:33.599
<v Speaker 2>try to hide his accent. Oh for cats, it's it's

543
00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:35.160
<v Speaker 2>absolutely remarkable.

544
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:39.559
<v Speaker 1>We have the the racist Spanish facial haircut. Yeah, yeah,

545
00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:42.039
<v Speaker 1>of course. Yeah. Clancy Brown's another guy that's kind of

546
00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:42.680
<v Speaker 1>underrated too.

547
00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:43.240
<v Speaker 2>I agree.

548
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>He's been in a ton of stuff that I that

549
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:45.839
<v Speaker 1>I really like over the years.

550
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But so anyway, yeah, Carl Urban probably is the

551
00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:51.319
<v Speaker 2>biggest cachet in Mortal Combed.

552
00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Right, And now you know, here's the other problem you

553
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:56.759
<v Speaker 1>run into it. So let's say the next one doesn't

554
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>come out for you know, three, four or five years ago.

555
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Right now, Kyl Urban's pushing sixty sixty and that's and

556
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>so it's almost like you need to kind of recast

557
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Cage a little bit. And if they were the

558
00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:12.559
<v Speaker 1>way that they set this up for a sequel, you

559
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:16.599
<v Speaker 1>would think that they cast Carl Urban, or that they

560
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>cast Johnny Cage as a guy who the actor is

561
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:25.359
<v Speaker 1>going to be playing him in at least another movie. Yeah,

562
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:29.559
<v Speaker 1>and to my knowledge, they haven't started shooting one all

563
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>combat three, so it's not like they can shoot these

564
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.839
<v Speaker 1>back to back. So I don't I don't, I don't know,

565
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe it was a desperate thing where like, Okay,

566
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:41.240
<v Speaker 1>this movie is not gonna we're not gonna get it made.

567
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:43.839
<v Speaker 1>We needed to make money. We need some kind of,

568
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, familiar face to get in on this.

569
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:48.799
<v Speaker 2>And I brought it up with you last week and

570
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I rewatched the first one just to make sure that

571
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.799
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't misremembering. The final scene in the first one

572
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:55.200
<v Speaker 2>is Johnny Cage and he's Asian.

573
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:57.759
<v Speaker 1>He's Asian. So like they were like, all right, we need.

574
00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:00.680
<v Speaker 2>More American audience, Like let's be real, did you notice this?

575
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>It felt like Cano and Johnny Cage were almost like

576
00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:06.920
<v Speaker 2>a hat on a hat. Like after watching this one,

577
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I realized that Kano was the Johnny Cage of the

578
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:12.720
<v Speaker 2>first one, and I was like, so, now now you

579
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.839
<v Speaker 2>have Kano and Johnny Cage and they're basically doing the

580
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.519
<v Speaker 2>same stick. Like if you really think about they're like

581
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.359
<v Speaker 2>almost two cocky, but like sometimes they're badass and root

582
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:23.839
<v Speaker 2>to being too cocky, and they have.

583
00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Those moan to me is always like he's he's he

584
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:30.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, he projects to be this tough, you know,

585
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>warrior type guy, but really he's morally corruptible. He's soft inside.

586
00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:39.680
<v Speaker 1>He does not he he acts always in his own

587
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:42.279
<v Speaker 1>self interest, not to anybody else's right, So there is

588
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot to I mean, he's you're you're not supposed to.

589
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 2>Like him, no, but I mean narratively, I guess they

590
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.720
<v Speaker 2>both are the same person, like in terms.

591
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Of kind of yeah, there are some.

592
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:55.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like if you watched a horror movie with six

593
00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:59.559
<v Speaker 2>college kids in a in a cabin trying to survive

594
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.440
<v Speaker 2>some kind of thing there, and two or three of

595
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:04.599
<v Speaker 2>them were stoners, you'd be like, wait a minute, there's

596
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.160
<v Speaker 2>only supposed to be one of this kind of he's redundant.

597
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.880
<v Speaker 2>And that's how I feel watching Kano and Johnny Cage

598
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:13.079
<v Speaker 2>both kind of like, ah, well, we only needed one

599
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:15.559
<v Speaker 2>of you, Like they should have made Kano way worse

600
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:18.160
<v Speaker 2>as a human because I'm like, well, obviously.

601
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, crappier version. And he turned on him in the

602
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:21.039
<v Speaker 1>last one.

603
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes he did, and he is a bad guy, Like

604
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:25.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why they're doing this shades of grace

605
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:28.279
<v Speaker 2>or like, you know, like almost like John what's his name,

606
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Jack Sparrow kind of like here's he Well, who's he

607
00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:33.720
<v Speaker 2>going to side with here? Like he's a super evil dude,

608
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Like they should just lean into that, right, And.

609
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:40.079
<v Speaker 1>And and the other thing too in regards to that is,

610
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:47.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know, I think we're meant to

611
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.559
<v Speaker 1>laugh at some of the things that Cano says, yeah, rightly,

612
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's still weird, like right that we're laughing, right,

613
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:56.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, like we should be. And and and Carl

614
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Urban to me like this, Johnny Cage just I don't

615
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>think I don't think he ever knew what was going on,

616
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:06.039
<v Speaker 1>even in the very end. I don't think he fully

617
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:09.319
<v Speaker 1>grasped everything that was going on. The Other thing I

618
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't like about this, and maybe this is a me thing. Uh,

619
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 1>that was a tournament that we watched, Yeah, and it

620
00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:19.559
<v Speaker 1>didn't seem like it right. No, that this this is

621
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>a tournament that is anti spectator, which is weird because

622
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>it's for the fate of worlds and realms. Yeah, people

623
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>should be watching this and be able to watch it happening. Yeah.

624
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>And like these fighters, I mean they don't they don't

625
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.119
<v Speaker 1>know who they're fighting, they don't know where they're going

626
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>to to fight. I don't know. I felt like the

627
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:43.319
<v Speaker 1>nineties one did that one a little Yeah, did that

628
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

629
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>It was it was more like it was just like,

630
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:47.960
<v Speaker 2>here's five minutes of story and a fight. Here's five

631
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 2>minutes of story in a fight, whereas this it was

632
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more than that for sure.

633
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>And I like the build up too, Like you know,

634
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.039
<v Speaker 1>like how pro wrestling does it, They build up storylines

635
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.319
<v Speaker 1>between two fighters or whatever. And I think that they

636
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>built up the goro thing in the in the nineteen

637
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>ninety seven one really well. Yeah, because then you're like, okay,

638
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:10.759
<v Speaker 1>this is this is this is significant here. Then the

639
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:13.799
<v Speaker 1>way Johnny Cage beat him, it's just that's that's another thing.

640
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>But but this one, like you, you just you didn't

641
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>know who was fighting who. There's with the special exception

642
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:24.119
<v Speaker 1>of a couple of fights in here, there really was

643
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>no real you know. Jerry Seinfeld. To bring it back

644
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:32.559
<v Speaker 1>to Seinfeld has this stand up about he always thinks

645
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it's so weird to see a professional boxing match. Why

646
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>would you want to see two guys knocking the hell

647
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:42.519
<v Speaker 1>out of each other and they don't have any beef

648
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.119
<v Speaker 1>with each other? There's He's like, why don't you get

649
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>two people into a traffic accident, you know, and then

650
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>throw them in the rings where there's actually emotions involved.

651
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:53.759
<v Speaker 1>And while that's funny, you know you would think that

652
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:57.519
<v Speaker 1>in this film, Yeah, the emotions are high because you're

653
00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>fighting for earth, realm or you're fighting for whatever, but

654
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:05.119
<v Speaker 1>at the same time you have no Yeah, there's no

655
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>rivalry there.

656
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:09.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, it felt especially for a second maybe

657
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 2>and maybe that's just me wanting I don't think I'll

658
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>be real with you. It's one of two things. It's

659
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>either to me, it's a I think it's sloppy filmmaking

660
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:20.359
<v Speaker 2>to a certain extent, and B it's almost like there's

661
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:22.960
<v Speaker 2>enough characters that it almost would be serviced better as

662
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>a TV show, like a series than a movie, because.

663
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, and then you know what you wouldn't need.

664
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.279
<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't need this frontline actor that you're paying all

665
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>this money. You can build up stuff over. Of course

666
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you can make it. And they never made a Mortal

667
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Kombat TV show. I mean there's probably a cartoon.

668
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 2>They made them. There was a it was a sub

669
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Zero Legacy show. I did not watch it.

670
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:42.839
<v Speaker 1>It was like live action.

671
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:45.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and but like it premiered on like a streaming

672
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:47.799
<v Speaker 2>service you've never heard of, Like I don't know what

673
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:50.839
<v Speaker 2>it's called. Like it was very very because I ten

674
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.119
<v Speaker 2>years ago or so went down a rabbit hole and

675
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.079
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I want all the Mortal Kombat content

676
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 2>that I can find, and I found it's like sub

677
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Zero Legacy or something.

678
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:01.839
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh you know what, that does sound familiar?

679
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:05.519
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, because the games and the movies, these ones

680
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.000
<v Speaker 2>do a little bit better. But like the main thrust

681
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:11.720
<v Speaker 2>of Mortal Kombat is the competition between sub Zero and Scorpion. Yes,

682
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:14.039
<v Speaker 2>that is the main thrust of it. The first movies

683
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 2>didn't give a shit about that. Now the first one

684
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.319
<v Speaker 2>in this one kind of does like it dove into that,

685
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I think pretty well a legacy thing. They created a

686
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:24.200
<v Speaker 2>descendant of Scorpion who nobody liked, and obviously they made

687
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>that clear in this one.

688
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:28.079
<v Speaker 1>But what do you mean nobody liked?

689
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, otherwise he'd still be the lead.

690
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh you're saying audiences yeah, oh okay, yeah, I thought

691
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 1>you meant.

692
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh no, no, no, yeah, they were fine with him.

693
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.759
<v Speaker 2>But but yeah, I mean the audiences were like, nah,

694
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:41.839
<v Speaker 2>I want what I'm here for. Give me the people.

695
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I know we should do this right now.

696
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Look up. I think his name is Lewis Tan. He

697
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.119
<v Speaker 1>played Cole Young? Is that is that his name Cole Young?

698
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>And this Cole Young, I feel like that's like one

699
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:56.319
<v Speaker 1>of the guys on my minor league, yeah, prospect team

700
00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:59.319
<v Speaker 1>of my fantasy baseball squad. Right now, look up Lewis

701
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:02.559
<v Speaker 1>Tan and look at the stuff he's done, because I

702
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:05.039
<v Speaker 1>think that there's there's stuff on If I remember looking

703
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>at this correctly, there's gonna be stuff on there that

704
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you might be surprised by, like oh that was him,

705
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:13.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, not realizing like oh he was in this

706
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>and he was in this safe house.

707
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:16.559
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have guessed. And I've seen that movie before.

708
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:18.599
<v Speaker 2>I have not seen that, so that's what Denzel and

709
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:21.720
<v Speaker 2>uh I think Ryan Reynolds was in it.

710
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh that one, okay, yeah yeah.

711
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Cobra Kai which I never watched by Nick Nick Nick

712
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.240
<v Speaker 2>and Alice, which just came out like three weeks ago,

713
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>and I watched it. It's interesting. I was into it

714
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:39.440
<v Speaker 2>about Fate, never heard of it. Wildcats, wu Assassins, Fistful

715
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:40.079
<v Speaker 2>of Vengeance.

716
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>That was it.

717
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought there was more.

718
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, anyway, it's it's not really the point. Oh,

719
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Deadpool too, Yes he was, Oh god, uh he's one

720
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:56.759
<v Speaker 1>of the villains. And I thought he was in Deadpool

721
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.839
<v Speaker 1>and Wolverine too, as one of the people in the

722
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the void or whatever they called it. Is that what

723
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.359
<v Speaker 1>they called it? Yeah, yeah he was. I thought he

724
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:06.240
<v Speaker 1>was one of the characters there too. But maybe I'm

725
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:06.799
<v Speaker 1>making that up.

726
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm looking it up as you're talking.

727
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 1>If he wasn't, he wasn't part of X Force, I

728
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:13.159
<v Speaker 1>don't believe. Yes he was.

729
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:17.559
<v Speaker 2>He was the he was Shatterstar. He had the red hair.

730
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:23.400
<v Speaker 2>He's one of the people that dies. Yes, that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

731
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:25.280
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's who he played.

732
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:27.599
<v Speaker 1>In Well, if he was in Deadpool Wolverine. Maybe he wasn't. Yeah,

733
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:29.320
<v Speaker 1>but that would make sense that if he was in

734
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:34.360
<v Speaker 1>that one too. Okay, all right, so do you think

735
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that it was a case of audiences not liking Cole Young, yes,

736
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>or do you think it was a case of, hey,

737
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:42.679
<v Speaker 1>we if we're gonna make Carl Urban the star of

738
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:44.679
<v Speaker 1>this movie, we gotta make Carl Urban the star of

739
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.840
<v Speaker 1>this movie, and we have to lessen you know who

740
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the previous because he was the star the first one.

741
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.159
<v Speaker 1>Was he not yep? You know yep? So I mean

742
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>they they basically made him a bit character and I

743
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 1>and maybe that's that was something that Urban and his

744
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>team said, Okay, listen, we have final script approval, and

745
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>if we don't like you know, we don't want to

746
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:06.360
<v Speaker 1>be competing for a lead. But you know, take it

747
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.400
<v Speaker 1>back to the nineties one. Yeah, lou King was like

748
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 1>the guy or whatever, and in these movies he's hardly

749
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>any guy. And they make a point of it, like

750
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of hokey, well not hokey, but it

751
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like very meta that he there's a

752
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>moment in this movie where he kind of realizes, oh yeah,

753
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm not the guy. Which is which was very cool.

754
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>But it's just weird how you can play with because

755
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:35.599
<v Speaker 1>none of these you know, we talk about our favorites

756
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 1>with Goro and Johnny Cage and Jack. Some people love

757
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Jack too, But you can play you can kind of

758
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>make any of these characters the star of whatever movie,

759
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.360
<v Speaker 1>you know. And and I think obviously when you get

760
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Carl Urban, who his wallet is thicker

761
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:53.159
<v Speaker 1>than anybody else's that's in this movie, you had to

762
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>let him explore and do whatever he wanted.

763
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 2>And I will say that this might be a little touchy,

764
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:01.360
<v Speaker 2>but like, these are the kind of things I noticed.

765
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:03.639
<v Speaker 2>Especially for the soup that I swim in, there was

766
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:05.039
<v Speaker 2>a long theme and like that's part of why I

767
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:09.079
<v Speaker 2>wanted to do this podcast with you. Yeah, because the theme.

768
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, with this stuff, it's probably you know, yeah,

769
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:14.159
<v Speaker 2>everyone has it, but I'm sure it's like, you know,

770
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 2>believing in yourself or some tum bullshit. I really looked

771
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:21.719
<v Speaker 2>into it, but like this sticks out to me, and

772
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna say it here. I think you bring

773
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:27.559
<v Speaker 2>in Carl Urban because there's a certain percentage of the

774
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:32.239
<v Speaker 2>population that gets really, really really mad when white characters

775
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:34.639
<v Speaker 2>aren't focused on. In the first one, you had the

776
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:38.519
<v Speaker 2>lead Asian Sonia Blade was the second you had Jackson there,

777
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:42.159
<v Speaker 2>and then the closest thing was Kano, who was a

778
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>fuck up. He always was making mistakes. He was kind

779
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:49.360
<v Speaker 2>of petulant, and that was the representation of the American audience.

780
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.119
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I guarantee you some producer was like,

781
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.599
<v Speaker 2>we'll do this sequel, but we will get the Wokeness

782
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:58.679
<v Speaker 2>crew will absolutely slam us if we don't get this

783
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.239
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more. Not the Carl Urban's American, but

784
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:04.239
<v Speaker 2>you know a little more americanized for the sequel here.

785
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:07.000
<v Speaker 2>And I genuinely when I saw they cast it, I'm like,

786
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.719
<v Speaker 2>this is why they're doing That's why Jason Statham's in

787
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:12.320
<v Speaker 2>the meg It's why there's just certain elements. It's like,

788
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:14.519
<v Speaker 2>we got to put this guy in here. The American

789
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 2>audiences don't show up. So if you wanted me to guess,

790
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:18.320
<v Speaker 2>that's probably why.

791
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Carl Urban just I mean nothing that I want to

792
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.039
<v Speaker 1>turn this into the Carl Urban podcast. But he's an

793
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>interesting choice because of the age obviously, and maybe they

794
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 1>had that script in that backstory with for Johnny Cage

795
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 1>already written and they or maybe they built it for

796
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:37.079
<v Speaker 1>when they when they cast Carl Urban. If you look

797
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>back at the stuff he's done and you kind of

798
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:42.519
<v Speaker 1>touched on this earlier. Obviously the boys he was he

799
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:46.119
<v Speaker 1>was an asset in uh the I can't remember which

800
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.079
<v Speaker 1>Born movie it was. It was one of them, maybe

801
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the second one. But even then he wasn't there weren't

802
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>there wasn't these butt kicking scenes, right like it was

803
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:56.159
<v Speaker 1>car chases, it was shootouts.

804
00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:58.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, he was in a freaking thor movie. You

805
00:37:58.239 --> 00:37:59.159
<v Speaker 2>barely saw him fine.

806
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Right, and and he hardly fought in that too. So

807
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:03.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's weird that you, I don't know, like

808
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:08.880
<v Speaker 1>it's you can't you really can't have lu Kang and

809
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.159
<v Speaker 1>an Asian Johnny Cage, Like I don't think that flies

810
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:12.760
<v Speaker 1>at tox.

811
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, yeah, you can, like, but I just I

812
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:18.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know. You talk about whitewashing, that's the inverse because

813
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Johnny Cage is a white guy, like in the game

814
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.000
<v Speaker 2>he's a white guy. He was the white guy in

815
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Moral Combat, and.

816
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Uh, is that what they call it? There's got to

817
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>be a term for inverse of whitewatch.

818
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, Yeah, I don't know what it is by

819
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:34.119
<v Speaker 2>the way desperation and survival, the o your overarching narrative

820
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 2>centers on dark escalation. Earth Realm is outmatched in the

821
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.960
<v Speaker 2>tournament shifts from an honorable martial arts competition to a

822
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:42.639
<v Speaker 2>desperate struggle for survival.

823
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:46.159
<v Speaker 1>That's the So how often, because you have the way

824
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:48.639
<v Speaker 1>that they set this up, if you lose ten tournaments

825
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:52.079
<v Speaker 1>in a row or now? Yeah, okay, so that's the

826
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:54.079
<v Speaker 1>other thing. I don't understand. How many realms are there?

827
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. I think it doesn't it goes.

828
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.199
<v Speaker 1>Are all the realms fighting in every tournament? Right? So

829
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:03.639
<v Speaker 1>how was Earth Realm up for grabs in this one?

830
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Because obviously only one realm can win each tournament? Right?

831
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.360
<v Speaker 1>So what happens to all the other If you take

832
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:13.320
<v Speaker 1>second place in nine straight tournaments? Aren't you on the

833
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:14.440
<v Speaker 1>chopping block right next?

834
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand how that bulky I'm gonna I'm gonna

835
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:19.880
<v Speaker 2>let all of our listeners know here, if you're going

836
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.440
<v Speaker 2>to see this movie, turn the brain off, because if

837
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.400
<v Speaker 2>you try through any of this, do we know.

838
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:26.559
<v Speaker 1>How often these tournaments are?

839
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Is it like once every I'm sure they said it,

840
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:30.920
<v Speaker 2>but if they like I think they even say it

841
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 2>in some of the originals. And what's funny is there's

842
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>four movies. Three of them focus on tournaments. Even the

843
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:37.599
<v Speaker 2>most the twenty twenty one one is sort of like

844
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 2>a brocast tournament and they cheating everyone, like the people never.

845
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Follow the rules, and it's just like, so the rules

846
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 1>are irrelevant, but it's always the bad guy trying to

847
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:51.719
<v Speaker 1>circumvent like he wants the the like, okay, what so

848
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:58.639
<v Speaker 1>technically murdering contestants prior to the tournament, right, is morally wrong, right,

849
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>but not against explicitly the rules of the tournament. Like

850
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:05.199
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing that says that they can't come in and

851
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.000
<v Speaker 1>start murdering Earth Realms champions, so they never have a

852
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:10.400
<v Speaker 1>chance to That's actually the point from twenty twenty one.

853
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:13.800
<v Speaker 2>They attack Cole like when he's like working at the cafe.

854
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Or wherever the hell he was. But didn't they do

855
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.480
<v Speaker 1>that in the first one, wasn't they the first one

856
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:21.079
<v Speaker 1>absolutely where they're trying to preemptively, which is weird, Ben,

857
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>because if you win nine straight tournaments, okay, and you're

858
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:32.840
<v Speaker 1>constantly beating up on this realm, why do you have

859
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to sink to nefarious reasons to I mean, you're you're

860
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:39.719
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna beat him straight up. You just did it

861
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:42.360
<v Speaker 1>nine times in a row. I don't understand that.

862
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.760
<v Speaker 2>It's just and then even Shall Khan in Annihilation, like

863
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:48.159
<v Speaker 2>if I remember correctly, that ends with him like getting

864
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:50.119
<v Speaker 2>put in like the zod box.

865
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

866
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.079
<v Speaker 2>I think they folded up because he cheated and there

867
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 2>was like a Grand Council and they were like, bro,

868
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:56.159
<v Speaker 2>you can't cheat that bad.

869
00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>So how did they cheating? The how did he cheat

870
00:40:58.840 --> 00:40:58.920
<v Speaker 1>in this?

871
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:00.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember like.

872
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>That one, you remember there was there was something like

873
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>that though it's got a.

874
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Four percent on Rotten Tomatoes, so God, that should something.

875
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:10.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, which I mean, this is just guilty pleasure

876
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 1>stuff for me. I don't know, but I enjoy watching

877
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.119
<v Speaker 1>these even if it's not great cinema. This will never

878
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:18.159
<v Speaker 1>win an award.

879
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest with you. I have no faith in

880
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:23.199
<v Speaker 2>the street Fighter movie that's being made right now, but

881
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:26.679
<v Speaker 2>we'll obviously see it when it comes. It's a it's

882
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:28.639
<v Speaker 2>a big name cast, it's a big name, but it's

883
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:29.880
<v Speaker 2>like all people I hate.

884
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.519
<v Speaker 1>Isill Holland, is Jake chillen Holland.

885
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:34.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think, OK, it's Andrew Schultz, who's a podcaster

886
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.840
<v Speaker 2>slash comedian is in it. Is one guy as a

887
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:39.000
<v Speaker 2>fighter as a fighter.

888
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you know who he is? No? Okay, yeah, but

889
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.679
<v Speaker 1>you say YouTuber comedian? Right, it doesn't fit. And it's

890
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:46.880
<v Speaker 1>just like like Pete david said being what's his name

891
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:48.119
<v Speaker 1>in suicide.

892
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, but at least Pete Davidson's entertaining, like the people,

893
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:53.480
<v Speaker 2>the people that are in this. I'm just like, oh,

894
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:54.320
<v Speaker 2>this is going to wait?

895
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Is it do to come out this year? Are they

896
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.280
<v Speaker 1>still filming it? Or I didn't even know this was

897
00:41:59.320 --> 00:41:59.559
<v Speaker 1>a thing.

898
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, let's see here release because I hope it

899
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:07.320
<v Speaker 2>doesn't send me October of this year. Okay, all right, yeah,

900
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.480
<v Speaker 2>live action. Let's see here if they have a cast already,

901
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:12.760
<v Speaker 2>and hopefully because there's one with like the guy who

902
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:15.639
<v Speaker 2>played Gomez in the Adams Family movies from like nineteen

903
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:18.920
<v Speaker 2>ninety four, Jean Claude van Dam plays Guyle in it.

904
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Who's Blanca's That's all I want to know in this one?

905
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah Momoa?

906
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh really? Yeah, dude, Jason Momoa has now been Blanca

907
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Lobo Aquaman. He's this weird kind of flufy villain in

908
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Fast Than How Good is it to be Jason.

909
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Momoa, Fitty Sense Ball rog Okay, Roman Reigns is a

910
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Kuma here, Hirouki Goto is I Honda. Cody Rhodes is Guyle.

911
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:52.639
<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of a lot of progrest a

912
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:54.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of pro wrests. I'm telling you the cast, I'm

913
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:56.400
<v Speaker 2>just like, ooh, I'm glad they're doing this, but this

914
00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:59.000
<v Speaker 2>is gonna suck. Like this is good. Like I enjoyed

915
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.159
<v Speaker 2>both of them and even said I like the game

916
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.519
<v Speaker 2>street Fighter more. I think it's more of a real game.

917
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:06.639
<v Speaker 2>But I have a feeling these movies, the Mortal Kombat

918
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.159
<v Speaker 2>movies I think are gonna go down. I don't know

919
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:11.760
<v Speaker 2>about noticeably better, but I think this is going to

920
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:15.119
<v Speaker 2>absolutely bomb. Like this this Moore of Combat's gone eighty

921
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 2>eight by audiences. People love it, Yeah, people absolutely love it.

922
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.280
<v Speaker 2>If there's anything to give you hope for a third one,

923
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:22.320
<v Speaker 2>it's that everyone who's seeing this. I told you, my

924
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:24.639
<v Speaker 2>friend was like, this is the best video game adaptation,

925
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:29.719
<v Speaker 2>And if you really think about it, maybe the Sonic movies.

926
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know, Like it's probably so many. There's

927
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:35.199
<v Speaker 1>so many video game movies that I didn't see. And

928
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:37.639
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I think, in order to make that comment,

929
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure your buddy is qualified, you not only

930
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 1>have to see a bunch of superhero movies, you had

931
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:43.719
<v Speaker 1>to have played.

932
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:44.960
<v Speaker 2>The video game movie video game. Yeah.

933
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>You not only had to see the video game movies,

934
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you had to play the video of the games back

935
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:52.320
<v Speaker 1>in the day too. There is a live action legend Azelda.

936
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:54.679
<v Speaker 2>I think that's coming out. Yeah, they're working on that.

937
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:55.519
<v Speaker 1>That'll be interesting.

938
00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:58.679
<v Speaker 2>Missed opportunity. By the way, they could have done a

939
00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Nintendo universe like Marvel and had the Mario stuff, because

940
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 2>that's making a billion dollars a movie. You could have

941
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:04.719
<v Speaker 2>tied it all together.

942
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:08.599
<v Speaker 1>They did that. Do you remember the show Captain and

943
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:14.119
<v Speaker 1>the Game Master, No, Ben, Oh my god, Saturday Mornings

944
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:15.679
<v Speaker 1>was on at nine am. This is I think I

945
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:17.360
<v Speaker 1>told you this before. I used to get up at

946
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 1>six okay, and well a little bit it was. I

947
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:23.519
<v Speaker 1>used to get up at like six thirty six forty five,

948
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:25.880
<v Speaker 1>get myself a bowl of cereal, and I'd have this

949
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:30.880
<v Speaker 1>radio it's tape recorder, radio, cassette and radio, and I

950
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:33.480
<v Speaker 1>would put the microphone on the thing up to the

951
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:37.280
<v Speaker 1>speaker of my television and I'd record Saturday morning it's

952
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the audio version, because then when I go to sleep

953
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:40.679
<v Speaker 1>at night, i'd listen to nice.

954
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

955
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:43.599
<v Speaker 1>So seven o'clock it was a pup named Scooby Doo,

956
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:46.119
<v Speaker 1>which was like the Scooby Doo prequel, and they're all kids.

957
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Seven thirty was Camp Candy, which is like this summer

958
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:54.119
<v Speaker 1>camp but John Candy is the head counselor it's a cartoon. Yeah,

959
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:58.039
<v Speaker 1>it was great. It sure sounds Eight o'clock then was

960
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Captain and the game Master, and then we get into

961
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:03.760
<v Speaker 1>like after that it was like teenagemting Ninja Turtles. It's

962
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>not important to this eight o'clock. Maybe he's eight thirty.

963
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>It's this guy who's he's he's sort of just like

964
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you and me, but he gets sucked into this world

965
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and he has allies that are all characters from Nintendo games,

966
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:24.000
<v Speaker 1>but the enemies are from from Nintendo games as well,

967
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:27.559
<v Speaker 1>so like it's like him. I remember him and Mega

968
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Man and kid Icarus were all like they're all like

969
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:32.880
<v Speaker 1>allies or whatever. I can't remember who else he had,

970
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:37.280
<v Speaker 1>but they'd fight Mother Brain from Metroid and and then

971
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:39.119
<v Speaker 1>these other villains or whatever.

972
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:41.559
<v Speaker 2>So it was just almost basically a straight up advertisement

973
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:43.880
<v Speaker 2>for Yeah, and it was awesome that.

974
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, and so you're you're all these characters

975
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:49.119
<v Speaker 1>from all these different video games are combined to a

976
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:50.159
<v Speaker 1>thirty minute.

977
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:52.679
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sitting here looking at the animation from it,

978
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:54.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's just like makes me feel like I'm watching

979
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.480
<v Speaker 2>the Saturday Morning cartoons. It's awesome. It's a good look.

980
00:45:57.519 --> 00:45:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe when I think it was just before

981
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.400
<v Speaker 2>so it's eighty nine to ninety one, so I would

982
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.360
<v Speaker 2>have been like four when this was happening, so I

983
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Speaker 2>was probably jumping on right after that. It was.

984
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.440
<v Speaker 1>It was a great show. And this is coming from

985
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:13.599
<v Speaker 1>a guy who didn't play. Like my big thing. My

986
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:16.599
<v Speaker 1>parents would let me rent a Nintendo system for my

987
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:19.000
<v Speaker 1>birthday weekend every year. I didn't even have a video

988
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>game system, yeah, at all when I was a kid.

989
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.519
<v Speaker 1>They didn't. Now, I played a ton of computer games

990
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:26.880
<v Speaker 1>like Wolfenstein and do It. I played all that, but Nintendo,

991
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:29.719
<v Speaker 1>like that was the only time I got that until

992
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I turned I think like fifteen or sixteen, and I

993
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:34.719
<v Speaker 1>bought myself a Nintendo sixty four and then that was like,

994
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:36.519
<v Speaker 1>finally I have a video game system. When it was great.

995
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I got on this.

996
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Didn't you rented the system for your birthday every year?

997
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:44.119
<v Speaker 1>No, this is way before that Captain and the Game

998
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh he's talking about the Nintendo.

999
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Nintendo University said that. Yeah, and there was his right.

1000
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:49.039
<v Speaker 2>I just said, there's an opportunity.

1001
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well and by the way, link it was one

1002
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.079
<v Speaker 1>of the allies on Captain and the Game aster too. Yeah. So,

1003
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:57.679
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if the Mario brothers were on

1004
00:46:57.760 --> 00:46:59.840
<v Speaker 1>there at all. I mean I would think they probably were.

1005
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:02.079
<v Speaker 2>But do they need the marketing? Like this feels like

1006
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:04.079
<v Speaker 2>kid ick or it's like who knows what kid icker is?

1007
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know who any of these, you know whatever,

1008
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:09.360
<v Speaker 1>But I watched it. You know, it was it was

1009
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:10.239
<v Speaker 1>that was a lot of fun.

1010
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, But I think it says to a larger point,

1011
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.440
<v Speaker 2>this stuff used to be laughable. Like the Resident Evil

1012
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:18.360
<v Speaker 2>movies are basically forgettable.

1013
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:20.199
<v Speaker 1>Pop. Did you did you see the trailer for the

1014
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:23.360
<v Speaker 1>new one? Hell? Yeah? Yeah. I actually the first good

1015
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:25.519
<v Speaker 1>one that's a commission said that I work with. He's like,

1016
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:28.719
<v Speaker 1>this is great because it's the first one where they're

1017
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:31.119
<v Speaker 1>not well. According to him, it's like they're not basing

1018
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:33.440
<v Speaker 1>it on the game, right, Like this is just like

1019
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:36.639
<v Speaker 1>another like it's called Resident Evil, but it's a totally

1020
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:38.800
<v Speaker 1>different kind of story and it's got I want to

1021
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:40.800
<v Speaker 1>say his name is Austin Abrams is the star in it,

1022
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:43.239
<v Speaker 1>and he's been I mean, he was on Euphoria. He

1023
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>was on Walking Dead for a couple of seasons as well,

1024
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:48.000
<v Speaker 1>so he's been climbing up in the world too. That's

1025
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:49.320
<v Speaker 1>and has that come out this year?

1026
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:49.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1027
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it does.

1028
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And uh, Sonic two and three clear to billion dollars,

1029
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:57.800
<v Speaker 2>the most recent Mario Galaxy movie cleared to billion. So

1030
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:00.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe when Mortal Kombat sees one hundred million and they're

1031
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.599
<v Speaker 2>like we we blew it, like there's an opportunity, Like

1032
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe they have unrealistic expectations because a lot of these

1033
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:09.239
<v Speaker 2>video game movies mean business. Now it's so jam Craft

1034
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:11.000
<v Speaker 2>freaking set the Internet on fire.

1035
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>But when you're talking about Minecraft and you're talking about

1036
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Super Mario Brothers and Sonic, those are all kids movies.

1037
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Mortal Kombat is not. And they did R rated Like

1038
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:23.000
<v Speaker 1>that blows my mind.

1039
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that blows my mind because I won an I

1040
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:29.079
<v Speaker 2>want an R rated Mortal Kombat society. I don't know

1041
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:32.360
<v Speaker 2>how many people clearly enough, but you know how many

1042
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:34.679
<v Speaker 2>people are like, you know, it's kind of it's not embarrassing,

1043
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.119
<v Speaker 2>but like this is supposed to video games are technically

1044
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.199
<v Speaker 2>for the youth, even though I gain plenty of people

1045
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:44.159
<v Speaker 2>my age game, but like, its exactly it's a it's

1046
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.400
<v Speaker 2>a ballsy maneuver in my opinion, to go art because

1047
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:50.320
<v Speaker 2>you're exactly right. You bring Jim Carrey on, you bring

1048
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:52.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, Sonic, You're like, oh, it's a fun there's

1049
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.480
<v Speaker 2>some jokes for adults, but it's primarily for kids. Here's

1050
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 2>your fun movie. Whereas this I would have been at

1051
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Mortal Kombat as a tach year old, I'd be like, Mom,

1052
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:02.320
<v Speaker 2>take me to moretal Kombat.

1053
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Cool, we're going yeah, and like h but a lot

1054
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.039
<v Speaker 1>of kids I know don't live that life, do you? Yeah?

1055
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:11.280
<v Speaker 1>They don't. They definitely don't, do you. Are they making

1056
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>new games based on these movies? H, Mortal Kombat? No,

1057
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.960
<v Speaker 1>like Sonic and Super not based on the movies.

1058
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:20.480
<v Speaker 2>But they're still making Sonic games, They're still making Mario

1059
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 2>games all that shot.

1060
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:23.800
<v Speaker 1>So I guess what I'm what I'm saying is, are

1061
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:26.760
<v Speaker 1>they coinciding the release of these games with the Okay,

1062
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:27.360
<v Speaker 1>there hasn't been.

1063
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.199
<v Speaker 2>The last major Mario release was in twenty seventeen. It

1064
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.360
<v Speaker 2>actually pisses me off because I would like a new

1065
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Mario game. So it's nott a while.

1066
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.360
<v Speaker 1>So the other conversation we had about this when I

1067
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:42.280
<v Speaker 1>was on your show was you made reference that gamers

1068
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:44.719
<v Speaker 1>are are kind of keeping this franchise alive.

1069
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1070
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Right, And I think that's true to a point. But

1071
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I also think it's true of like, you know, people

1072
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:53.559
<v Speaker 1>with and I said this, and you I know I'm

1073
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:55.280
<v Speaker 1>repeating myself, but people listen.

1074
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 2>Syeah, it's not the same new audience that.

1075
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:05.159
<v Speaker 1>It's. It's it's kids with that have become adults with

1076
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:09.719
<v Speaker 1>adult money now and and now they have this what

1077
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:12.480
<v Speaker 1>do you call the income when it's extra disposable disposable

1078
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:15.480
<v Speaker 1>income to spend on whatever. Hell yeah, they're gonna go

1079
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:18.800
<v Speaker 1>see Mortal com Y. You know, not everybody, but but

1080
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:23.559
<v Speaker 1>they're going to. I said, Nostalgia is a big part

1081
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:27.360
<v Speaker 1>of this. Nostalgia sells. And and you know, you think

1082
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:29.760
<v Speaker 1>about I one of the best feelings in the world

1083
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:33.800
<v Speaker 1>is having something happen to you, seeing something smelling something

1084
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:41.400
<v Speaker 1>that you have not smelled or tasted or seen since

1085
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you were like ten or something, and then you're like,

1086
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.119
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I'm forty six. I forgot about this. Yeah,

1087
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:51.199
<v Speaker 1>thirty six years in between great experiences. So so just y,

1088
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting to a point here. So when you can

1089
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:58.760
<v Speaker 1>recapture that in any way, that is going to keep

1090
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:04.719
<v Speaker 1>people coming back. And I think a huge subset or

1091
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:08.159
<v Speaker 1>demographic for this movie is people in my in their

1092
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:10.480
<v Speaker 1>mid forties, in their early forties and their late thirties

1093
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:13.760
<v Speaker 1>that experienced this back in the day that have them like, yeah,

1094
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:17.239
<v Speaker 1>hell yeah, Mortal Kombat movie. Yes, yeah, I haven't played

1095
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the game in forever. They've come out with one movie

1096
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:22.800
<v Speaker 1>in the last you know, twenty five years about.

1097
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:26.079
<v Speaker 2>It, right, and that movie came out during the pandemic,

1098
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:28.039
<v Speaker 2>in the pandemic, so you couldn't even And so that's

1099
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 2>what you jogged my memory for. And it goes to

1100
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.679
<v Speaker 2>show you. I think this sequel is being hit by

1101
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:35.039
<v Speaker 2>the law of diminishing returns a little bit, even though

1102
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.559
<v Speaker 2>there is no box office for the twenty twenty one one.

1103
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Because Pennsylvania took their lockdowns pretty seriously. They extended for

1104
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:45.639
<v Speaker 2>a while and a lot of my friends aren't gamers,

1105
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:49.760
<v Speaker 2>and the first time we got together in COVID America

1106
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:54.840
<v Speaker 2>was when HBO Max released the Mortal Kombat movie. We

1107
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:57.840
<v Speaker 2>rented a projector and did an outside party and there

1108
00:51:57.880 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Speaker 2>were probably forty of us at a time when no

1109
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:02.920
<v Speaker 2>one was socializing. It was the first real social interaction

1110
00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I had in months, and it was all of us

1111
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:10.360
<v Speaker 2>at an outdoor projection screening. Hello, probably forty people all

1112
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 2>in there at that point early thirties. I was probably

1113
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:14.840
<v Speaker 2>thirty two, thirty three years old when that was happening,

1114
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:19.559
<v Speaker 2>and everybody showed up. Everybody was into it. Not everyone

1115
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:21.239
<v Speaker 2>loved it. Like I was sitting there like why is

1116
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:24.079
<v Speaker 2>the blood cgi? Like I was the thing there, but

1117
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:26.280
<v Speaker 2>like we were all into it, watching it, having fun,

1118
00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:28.480
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't even some of it was nostalgia.

1119
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:28.760
<v Speaker 1>For me.

1120
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:30.360
<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh my god, the first more will

1121
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.599
<v Speaker 2>combat and it's R rated. This is gonna bang. But

1122
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:34.800
<v Speaker 2>other people were like, yeah, give me anything to do.

1123
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:38.840
<v Speaker 2>And there was just like a very positive atmosphere around there,

1124
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:42.119
<v Speaker 2>and there wasn't any of that hype around this release.

1125
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.079
<v Speaker 1>So like, you know, honestly, it's kind of making me

1126
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:47.239
<v Speaker 1>want to go back and watch those, even though the

1127
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:49.400
<v Speaker 1>second one was terrible, but ye watched the first one

1128
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:51.639
<v Speaker 1>for thirty seven and then like, you know, because there

1129
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:53.280
<v Speaker 1>were parts of that that were really cool.

1130
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:55.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, when Lizard comes to life, when you

1131
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:57.719
<v Speaker 2>see it, you're gonna be like, oh, that looks stated

1132
00:52:57.719 --> 00:52:59.559
<v Speaker 2>as hell, but that's awesome that they made it look

1133
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:02.880
<v Speaker 2>like that ninety seven because he's like, you'll you'll see

1134
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:04.599
<v Speaker 2>it and you'll be like, I would rewind it and

1135
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.159
<v Speaker 2>see how they hit him in the background, and like

1136
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:09.039
<v Speaker 2>then you know, you're like, oh, that's so cool. Why

1137
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:12.159
<v Speaker 2>haven't I seen that again? Like you know what I mean.

1138
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:15.880
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to help me out on this one.

1139
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Mortal Kombat? Was that ever an arcade?

1140
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Like?

1141
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:21.679
<v Speaker 1>Could you have played in an arcade? Okay? So I

1142
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:23.559
<v Speaker 1>think I did that, although I don't remember it all that.

1143
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:25.679
<v Speaker 2>That's how the shit hit the fan was like, because

1144
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:27.880
<v Speaker 2>obviously the parents who would never allow that in their

1145
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:29.840
<v Speaker 2>house didn't allow it in their house. It was when

1146
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:31.760
<v Speaker 2>you went to the arcade, it's a player and you're like,

1147
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:36.480
<v Speaker 2>did that guy pull his head off? Is that his spine? So?

1148
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.599
<v Speaker 1>Was it dedicated to Nintendo only in the home? So

1149
00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:42.559
<v Speaker 1>you could get it on Nintendo. Yeah, you get it

1150
00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:46.400
<v Speaker 1>on Sega, and I don't think you get it on Atari.

1151
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:49.239
<v Speaker 1>What was the other was there another big one PlayStation?

1152
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:52.159
<v Speaker 1>I guess yeah, that was you know year lact So

1153
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:53.880
<v Speaker 1>it was like Nintendo in Sega.

1154
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Right in the nineties. I had the original Mortal Kombat

1155
00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.880
<v Speaker 2>on Sega Genesis and Mortal Kombat four on and so

1156
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:03.159
<v Speaker 2>that shows you the uh range there.

1157
00:54:03.320 --> 00:54:05.239
<v Speaker 1>So I guess when I'm getting back at this, so

1158
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:08.679
<v Speaker 1>I when I think about video games from the nineties

1159
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:10.039
<v Speaker 1>that I was playing, so I would go to the

1160
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:12.559
<v Speaker 1>Foxer Room all which sure you know where it was,

1161
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.000
<v Speaker 1>but you never attended when you were a kid. It

1162
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:18.119
<v Speaker 1>was totally different back then. Man, all mast right were

1163
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:23.679
<v Speaker 1>you could you could smoke inside there nice that there

1164
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:26.719
<v Speaker 1>there were restaurants, not in the food courts like there'd

1165
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:28.000
<v Speaker 1>just be a there's a random.

1166
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Hearties in one of the way yeah, hell yeah.

1167
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:33.039
<v Speaker 1>And the best part And you would do this when

1168
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:35.159
<v Speaker 1>you were a preteen because you're it was weird because

1169
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:39.519
<v Speaker 1>your parents wouldn't let you do this when before you

1170
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:41.519
<v Speaker 1>were preteen because you were too young. And then you

1171
00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:43.280
<v Speaker 1>get older and you get a car and you don't

1172
00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:44.639
<v Speaker 1>really want to hang out at the mall anymore. You

1173
00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:47.239
<v Speaker 1>want to do other stuff. So there's this little slice

1174
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:50.000
<v Speaker 1>of your life that fits in this and the foxer

1175
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:53.880
<v Speaker 1>them all amazing food court. They had movie theater in there,

1176
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:59.199
<v Speaker 1>which there's a ton of screens, right, and one of

1177
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:04.039
<v Speaker 1>the best days of my life. This was years later

1178
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:07.760
<v Speaker 1>when I wasn't all about them all anymore. But I

1179
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:10.239
<v Speaker 1>saw two movies on the same day, m HM with

1180
00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:13.719
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different people. I saw Scream, the original Scream,

1181
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and then I went to pocket Change, which was the

1182
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>arcade that they had there, which is long since been

1183
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and then I saw Beavis and butt Head do America Nice.

1184
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.679
<v Speaker 1>It was awesome at the but I think about like

1185
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:26.880
<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid, and I would just go, like,

1186
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:29.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, my my parents would give me money. They

1187
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:31.039
<v Speaker 1>usually wouldn't give me money. I'd use my own money.

1188
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:33.880
<v Speaker 1>And then I go into pocket Change and I'd play whatever.

1189
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:36.119
<v Speaker 1>And I was thinking, I couldn't really remember playing a

1190
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:38.400
<v Speaker 1>whole lot of Mortal Kombat. I played a lot of

1191
00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:41.639
<v Speaker 1>Street Fighter. I played the teenage Mutant Ninjas Hurdles game

1192
00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:44.119
<v Speaker 1>quite the Simpsons every now.

1193
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:46.960
<v Speaker 2>And own that the Simpsons like stand up arcade game.

1194
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I bought one really Yeah, it cost me like five

1195
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:53.639
<v Speaker 2>hundred bucks Disda's house. But it still works. You plug

1196
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:54.360
<v Speaker 2>it in the whole day.

1197
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'd play that, I'd play.

1198
00:55:57.079 --> 00:55:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I actually own that. In Golden Ax if you remember

1199
00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Golden Max Golden Acts, you could either play as a warrior,

1200
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:07.000
<v Speaker 2>a valkyrie, or a dwarf and you just kind of yeah,

1201
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:07.920
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was a big one.

1202
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:15.239
<v Speaker 1>But I played Running Gun, which was are not Running Gun?

1203
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I played NBA Jam. Yeah, and there's one that I'm

1204
00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:23.320
<v Speaker 1>forgetting about Our Tribals. Did you ever play familiar? Dude?

1205
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Our Tribals was like this bastardized did you did you

1206
00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:29.000
<v Speaker 1>play Running Gun at all? Okay, so Running Gun was

1207
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.760
<v Speaker 1>like this. It had the NBA two K like behind

1208
00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the back. It was basketball behind the back.

1209
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:37.000
<v Speaker 2>A million years would I have guessed that was a basket.

1210
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Basketball game, but it was all But it was, dude,

1211
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:41.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like all fast breaks and ship pointers and dunks

1212
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:43.639
<v Speaker 1>at a time when the real NBA wasn't doing it.

1213
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely loved it. Right, played NFL Blitz, which was again

1214
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:52.559
<v Speaker 1>like a really violent version of the NFL and then

1215
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:55.039
<v Speaker 1>our so our Tribals getting back to that it was

1216
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:59.159
<v Speaker 1>like NBA Jam, but it came up before NBA Jam.

1217
00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:02.519
<v Speaker 1>They didn't have any light sing agreements, but you could,

1218
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:05.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you could tell who the Lakers were.

1219
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:07.400
<v Speaker 1>You could tell, and they had the bad boy this

1220
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:10.679
<v Speaker 1>like bad Boy pistons there. So like the fights happened

1221
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:13.159
<v Speaker 1>all the time in this art Rivals game and bad

1222
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.599
<v Speaker 1>fouls cheap falls or so I played that a lot too.

1223
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:20.280
<v Speaker 1>And then I don't know if you remember this one.

1224
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why this turned into like what media games,

1225
00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:25.400
<v Speaker 1>but there's an Aerosmith game and I don't.

1226
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hell yeah. It was like a shooter, but you

1227
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:30.599
<v Speaker 2>weren't shooting guns. It's like you were shooting like paraphernal

1228
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:31.880
<v Speaker 2>yet something.

1229
00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:34.599
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, you were like you would have

1230
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:38.079
<v Speaker 1>to shoot albums or records ease or whatever it was,

1231
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:41.400
<v Speaker 1>and Steven Tyler would be singing and like doing like

1232
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you know this boy. It was stupid and I loved it.

1233
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was like where else Aerosmith Shooter game

1234
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:50.599
<v Speaker 1>was great but like some of the best times. Yeah,

1235
00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:52.639
<v Speaker 1>and and maybe like this is sort of where I

1236
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:56.360
<v Speaker 1>want to come back to the nostalgia aspect of this. Yeah,

1237
00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:58.920
<v Speaker 1>it was cool that you know you'd be able to

1238
00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:02.000
<v Speaker 1>finish it and rip as had office. But for me,

1239
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:04.119
<v Speaker 1>it was all about like I am hanging out with

1240
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:08.239
<v Speaker 1>my friends yea, at an arcade without my parents here,

1241
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:12.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm being independent and free. There's a certain feeling you

1242
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:16.039
<v Speaker 1>have that and then you just naturally associate it with

1243
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:20.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, Aerosmith or our Tribals or NFL Blitz or

1244
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. And so I think even though the movie

1245
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:27.719
<v Speaker 1>was not a ten out of ten, even though we

1246
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.760
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of issues with certain aspects of it,

1247
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:35.119
<v Speaker 1>it still is so enjoyable from the aspect of what

1248
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:38.639
<v Speaker 1>it makes you think of. And I think that's part

1249
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:41.960
<v Speaker 1>of the reason. Why did I mean, granted they're hoping

1250
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:44.000
<v Speaker 1>for eighty, but why did sixty three million at the buckle?

1251
00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:46.159
<v Speaker 2>And I looked it up worldwide, They're over one hundred.

1252
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:47.679
<v Speaker 2>So they should just shut the hell up and take

1253
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:48.360
<v Speaker 2>their money and go.

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00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:51.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I get ready on that third one. Yeah,

1255
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm here for it. I know you are too.

1256
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, I mean, I'll tell you right now. The

1257
00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:58.800
<v Speaker 2>day I see it on HBO Max, I'll watch it again.

1258
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Speaking, I don't know what I was gonna say it

1259
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:03.039
<v Speaker 1>with HBO Max, did you see the second trailer for Lanterns.

1260
00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh that looks great. Yeah it does good show. Yeah,

1261
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:09.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm optimistic. I don't know a lot about Green Lantern,

1262
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:12.320
<v Speaker 2>so I'm looking forward to just kind of jumping into

1263
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:13.000
<v Speaker 2>that a little bit.

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00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:15.760
<v Speaker 1>It seems like it's like it starts off as like

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00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:19.440
<v Speaker 1>this buddy cop because it's like a it's like sci

1266
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:21.679
<v Speaker 1>fi detective story. This is the way they're billing it,

1267
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and it seems like it's buddy cop. But you can

1268
00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:26.519
<v Speaker 1>tell from the trailer that Kyle Chandler seems to be

1269
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:29.599
<v Speaker 1>an antagonist in this suff Yeah, this show, So I

1270
00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:31.480
<v Speaker 1>think something's gonna develop there. I think it's fun.

1271
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I will say, but as we're wrapping up here, the

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00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:37.360
<v Speaker 2>one thing you just kind of took me back there

1273
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.400
<v Speaker 2>with your malls and arcade conversation, And it's funny because

1274
00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:42.159
<v Speaker 2>I was sitting there. I almost interrupted you because I

1275
00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:43.760
<v Speaker 2>was gonna be like, don't tell me any of your

1276
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:46.519
<v Speaker 2>friends actually knew how to do the fatalities, because what's

1277
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:50.119
<v Speaker 2>left out of that entire conversation is the Internet. Like

1278
00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:53.599
<v Speaker 2>there's something about not having that and like this movie,

1279
00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I hate that we're old enough that like the nostalgia

1280
00:59:56.599 --> 00:59:58.440
<v Speaker 2>can just like wreck you like that. But there is

1281
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:02.039
<v Speaker 2>something about Mortal Kombat, like the first time scene someone

1282
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:05.039
<v Speaker 2>like turns scorpion into a penguin and drop an egg

1283
01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.920
<v Speaker 2>that explodes. You're like, wait a minute, what just happened, right?

1284
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:10.559
<v Speaker 2>And then he goes animality and you're like, that's not

1285
01:00:10.639 --> 01:00:11.599
<v Speaker 2>a thing that happens in.

1286
01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:14.760
<v Speaker 1>This game, and uh, well do you do you remember

1287
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:15.679
<v Speaker 1>the other thing too, like.

1288
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Which, by the way, Mortal Kombat one he turned into

1289
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:21.880
<v Speaker 2>a penguin and dropped an exploding egg, and Mortal Kombat

1290
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 2>four he turned into a scorpion, which thematically makes more sense.

1291
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:30.679
<v Speaker 2>But for my money, give me the Penguin's I'm wired.

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01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember? I mean, like I think it was

1293
01:00:33.480 --> 01:00:37.599
<v Speaker 1>contra the cheat code like up down whatever, Konami code,

1294
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:40.079
<v Speaker 1>the Konomi code. Yeah, and you know it's sonny because

1295
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you say that now the Konami code is referred to

1296
01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:46.039
<v Speaker 1>as something else in fantasy football. Okay, it's the Konami code.

1297
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Is these quarterbacks that are not only skilled passers, but

1298
01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:53.400
<v Speaker 1>they they're skilled rushers as well. So you say, oh,

1299
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray's got the Konami code. Yeah, so that's that's

1300
01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:58.679
<v Speaker 1>so now, that's what I think. That's how we evolved

1301
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:02.320
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But but back in the day, dude, pre Internet,

1302
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:05.079
<v Speaker 1>that was passed on by word of mouth, right, like

1303
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:09.119
<v Speaker 1>we're blanking Native Americans passing you know, like we're passing

1304
01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:12.440
<v Speaker 1>down the stories of our ancestors by word of mouth.

1305
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:13.880
<v Speaker 1>You know that wall is fake.

1306
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:15.920
<v Speaker 2>You can walk right through and looking.

1307
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and and uh you know, and then it spreads obviously,

1308
01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:21.199
<v Speaker 1>like oh, I have a cousin in California, That's where

1309
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I heard it from. And then it would hit Wisconsin

1310
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:26.360
<v Speaker 1>or not that he hit Wisconsin, because like, just no,

1311
01:01:26.519 --> 01:01:28.440
<v Speaker 1>it hit Wisconsin. I'll get it. I know, I'm just

1312
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:31.519
<v Speaker 1>saying that, right, I'm all over the country or whatever.

1313
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:33.920
<v Speaker 1>But like but like yeah, economic, oh yeah, I know

1314
01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:36.559
<v Speaker 1>about that. Yeah right, But that's how we spread stuff

1315
01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:38.519
<v Speaker 1>back in the day. Was was all word of mouth.

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01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:41.639
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's so weird to think about. I know, God,

1317
01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:43.199
<v Speaker 1>I adn't think we're going to get on the pre

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01:01:43.360 --> 01:01:43.920
<v Speaker 1>internet team.

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01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I dig it. I dig it though, But I

1320
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:47.599
<v Speaker 2>feel like we've said what we need to say. Here's

1321
01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:50.760
<v Speaker 2>what's crazy. My rating isn't going to mesh well with

1322
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:52.400
<v Speaker 2>what we said because I'm going to be in like

1323
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:55.119
<v Speaker 2>the five and a half to six range, but I'm

1324
01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:58.039
<v Speaker 2>very excited to watch it again. Like that's my attitude.

1325
01:01:58.079 --> 01:01:59.519
<v Speaker 1>I probably shouldn't give it a six and a half,

1326
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:00.960
<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to. I feel like I gave six

1327
01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:02.679
<v Speaker 1>and a half. Like, let this like third straight week

1328
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:04.360
<v Speaker 1>of six and a half. But I'm gonna give it

1329
01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:07.679
<v Speaker 1>a six and a half because number one, it's hard

1330
01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:09.519
<v Speaker 1>to completely screw something like this up.

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01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:13.159
<v Speaker 2>I agree. Number two, it was Mortal Kombat Annihilation as

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01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:14.000
<v Speaker 2>a four, but go on.

1333
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:17.639
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, I'd still watch it again even

1334
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:20.079
<v Speaker 1>though I know it's trash. That's the thing, So I

1335
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:21.760
<v Speaker 1>think you have to factor that into it.

1336
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Sonia Blade fighting what's her face in the mud, Like

1337
01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I was just discovering myself at that point, and I'm like, hmm,

1338
01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:30.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what, this might be all right, this movie

1339
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:33.639
<v Speaker 2>might be okay now that I think about it, and

1340
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:34.960
<v Speaker 2>and and.

1341
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:38.159
<v Speaker 1>And and then obviously adding for the first time, like

1342
01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:42.559
<v Speaker 1>an actual real life leading man in this in this

1343
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.280
<v Speaker 1>series was kind of cool to see as well. Again,

1344
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:48.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it landed perfectly. Maybe that was the

1345
01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:52.280
<v Speaker 1>intent as well. I don't know, but but it was

1346
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:54.679
<v Speaker 1>very cool. This is a cool movie, uh, for sure.

1347
01:02:55.320 --> 01:03:01.199
<v Speaker 1>And I'm excited for the next one in twenty thirty one.

1348
01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Who the hell when I'll be in my fifties.

1349
01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:05.880
<v Speaker 2>I hope they take a little bit that they goes

1350
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:09.199
<v Speaker 2>like the twenty twenty year and twenty twenty one makes

1351
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:11.639
<v Speaker 2>everything feel fake, Like the fact that that first one's

1352
01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:13.960
<v Speaker 2>almost a half a decade old kind of blows my mind.

1353
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:16.159
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, hopefully they get their ass and gear

1354
01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:19.039
<v Speaker 2>here a little bit. But freaking Batman Part two is

1355
01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:21.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna be five years old by the time comes.

1356
01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:24.199
<v Speaker 1>It's so weird, like, and what's the reason for the

1357
01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:26.800
<v Speaker 1>delay on I got nothing, man, because it's still Matt Reeves.

1358
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:29.039
<v Speaker 1>They haven't switched directors, right, I don't know if it.

1359
01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Was all the flux with the James gun hiring and whatnot.

1360
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:34.639
<v Speaker 2>That Clay face, Oh my god, dude, that's gonna be

1361
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:35.039
<v Speaker 2>so good.

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01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:37.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was gonna have we talked about that.

1363
01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:39.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. But you guys are just gonna

1364
01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:41.440
<v Speaker 2>deal with this tangent. But how goods like that? Looks

1365
01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:44.159
<v Speaker 2>like they're going to do straight body horror with that. Yeah,

1366
01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:47.639
<v Speaker 2>And it's and it's a character that I know a

1367
01:03:47.719 --> 01:03:50.800
<v Speaker 2>bunch about but most of America doesn't clay Face.

1368
01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Like how we've seen Clayface, right, It's been basically cartoons

1369
01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:58.800
<v Speaker 1>only Yep. There's never big brown thing. Yeah, huge, like

1370
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Solomon Grundy huge. And so now we get this, we

1371
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:06.440
<v Speaker 1>get a backstory with By the way, is this comic

1372
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:07.719
<v Speaker 1>book accurate this backstory?

1373
01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm assuming they do, though there's there's actually two

1374
01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:13.840
<v Speaker 2>versions of Clayface, and so they can take it either way.

1375
01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:16.599
<v Speaker 2>But to me, for my money, the one where he's

1376
01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:20.360
<v Speaker 2>an actor who loses himself in rules, which is just

1377
01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:23.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, the symbology there is fantastic.

1378
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:24.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1379
01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:24.920
<v Speaker 2>And and.

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01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:28.679
<v Speaker 1>This is something I mean because Clayface was just sort

1381
01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:34.000
<v Speaker 1>of like a an NPC for lack of a better term,

1382
01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:36.440
<v Speaker 1>in all the other things that we've ever seen them before.

1383
01:04:36.519 --> 01:04:41.239
<v Speaker 1>So now we're actually getting, i mean, not only a backstory,

1384
01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:48.760
<v Speaker 1>but a pretty serious like human conflict isn't the right word,

1385
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:54.280
<v Speaker 1>but something like like exploring the human psyche and what

1386
01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:58.119
<v Speaker 1>happens to you when all you know and all you're

1387
01:04:58.159 --> 01:05:01.719
<v Speaker 1>good at is taken away from you, and and how

1388
01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:02.679
<v Speaker 1>that twists your mind.

1389
01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, seems like they're positioning him as an anti hero instead.

1390
01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Of I would even I just I would just say

1391
01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:10.760
<v Speaker 1>anti no.

1392
01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:13.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think he's going to have a redemption arc.

1393
01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:15.079
<v Speaker 2>I think he's not going to be full blown bad

1394
01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:15.880
<v Speaker 2>guy in this.

1395
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:17.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know.

1396
01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:19.480
<v Speaker 2>You could be right, they're going to take the But.

1397
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:22.239
<v Speaker 1>You think about two Face too, and and like how

1398
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:29.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, mythologically, how he changed when that accident happened mentally,

1399
01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and and I think we'll see that with with Clay Face.

1400
01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Yea's I say all that to say they're taking too

1401
01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:36.719
<v Speaker 2>long with some of these movies.

1402
01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean I don't know, like there's a lot

1403
01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:40.239
<v Speaker 1>that goes into it too.

1404
01:05:40.599 --> 01:05:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they say that, But then I'm like, well, how

1405
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:45.719
<v Speaker 2>does pizza movie get made?

1406
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Something? Yeah?

1407
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Right exactly, And like like honestly, I think it was

1408
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:53.000
<v Speaker 2>about five years between Batman begins in Dark Knights and

1409
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:55.440
<v Speaker 2>then it was four years until Dark Knight rises. So

1410
01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:58.280
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's the normal break there is there There.

1411
01:05:58.239 --> 01:06:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Is something because you know the other thing two is

1412
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:02.400
<v Speaker 1>if you take too long, And by the way, that's

1413
01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:05.760
<v Speaker 1>not normal for for four years. I don't think that's normal.

1414
01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean normal in the Batman world.

1415
01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:09.119
<v Speaker 1>I think that was the longest it was in the

1416
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Batman World from Dark Knight to the Dark Knight Rises.

1417
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean Batman begins Dark Knight was roughly the

1418
01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:14.159
<v Speaker 2>same time period.

1419
01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:15.199
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was closer together.

1420
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:16.920
<v Speaker 2>No, I think it's O three to eight and then

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01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:19.280
<v Speaker 2>all right, I think I.

1422
01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:22.679
<v Speaker 1>Will take your word for it on that. Okay, do

1423
01:06:22.719 --> 01:06:24.159
<v Speaker 1>you want to look ahead at Yeah?

1424
01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot out now, and like you might disagree,

1425
01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:30.039
<v Speaker 2>So let's pick one that we can both get behind.

1426
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:33.960
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of horror here, yeah, or or, And

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01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I know it might not be your kind of movie,

1428
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:39.159
<v Speaker 2>but there's a chance that it's a banger. But Boots

1429
01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:42.159
<v Speaker 2>Riley's new movie, I Love Boosters comes out this Friday,

1430
01:06:42.239 --> 01:06:44.920
<v Speaker 2>which is what I was going to propose. Not that

1431
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:47.320
<v Speaker 2>we have to, but like I'm definitely gonna see them.

1432
01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:54.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now, Boots Riley was sorry to bother you. Yeah, okay, Yeah.

1433
01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Keiki Palmer's in this one.

1434
01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:00.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it doesn't seem like my It's about women that

1435
01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:04.119
<v Speaker 2>go and rob luxury brands and sell them at a

1436
01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:06.360
<v Speaker 2>discounted price to people that can't afford them.

1437
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:09.159
<v Speaker 1>So there's like a fashion forward philanthropy is what they

1438
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:09.480
<v Speaker 1>call it.

1439
01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they spell philanthropy wrong. I see I've already

1440
01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:14.440
<v Speaker 2>seen the commercial. They're like, yeah, I know that's not

1441
01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:16.440
<v Speaker 2>how you spell it, but it's called branding. I'm like,

1442
01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:17.960
<v Speaker 2>this is going to be a good movie. I can

1443
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:19.480
<v Speaker 2>tell just from the trailer.

1444
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I am fine with that.

1445
01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:25.119
<v Speaker 2>But there's other options. Well, I'd see Passenger, I'd see Obsession.

1446
01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:27.400
<v Speaker 2>There's probably other ones.

1447
01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:29.599
<v Speaker 1>That I maybe we should do Obsession. I'd see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd see that because that's been out for a while. Yeah,

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01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:35.320
<v Speaker 1>and I've had two people ask me if we're going

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01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to do Obsession.

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01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Let's do Obsession, all.

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01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Right, because the rest of these, we can get to

1453
01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:41.559
<v Speaker 1>the only one that I mean, I'll see whatever obviously, Yeah,

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01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:43.159
<v Speaker 1>but the one so I guess I won't because the

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01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:46.079
<v Speaker 1>one I don't want to see is Mandalorian and Grogo.

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01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Only because I don't want to watch the show.

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01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, I would be lost on it. Yeah, I

1458
01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:51.239
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen it.

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01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually kind of glad because that's the first one

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01:07:53.320 --> 01:07:55.320
<v Speaker 2>up on releases. I really hope he doesn't want to

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01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:56.079
<v Speaker 2>see Mandalori.

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01:07:56.039 --> 01:07:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Because I don't watch the show.

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01:07:57.199 --> 01:07:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I dated a girl when I first moved out here

1464
01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:01.519
<v Speaker 2>who loved that show, and we spent a Saturday and

1465
01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:03.679
<v Speaker 2>watched the entire season. We just sat on the couch

1466
01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:05.239
<v Speaker 2>and watched the entire I'm like, this is a really

1467
01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:08.599
<v Speaker 2>good show. Yeah, never never turned it on again. I

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01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:13.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I just yeah, I just didn't no I obsession.

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01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:18.279
<v Speaker 1>There was there it something in that movie. I'll have

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01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:20.199
<v Speaker 1>to look it up. But something in that movie tied

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01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:22.640
<v Speaker 1>into one of the other movies that we had done,

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01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:25.079
<v Speaker 1>if I remember correctly, So we'll have to take a

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01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:27.439
<v Speaker 1>look at that. But yeah, I've had two people see

1474
01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:28.960
<v Speaker 1>it and then they're like, hey, are you guys gonna

1475
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:30.720
<v Speaker 1>do this on your on your podcast. I'm like, ah,

1476
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:33.079
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk with Ben. But I do think it's interesting

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01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and it seems it seems unique.

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01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:37.920
<v Speaker 2>And it's well that's because and how long do I

1479
01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:39.600
<v Speaker 2>don't want to drag you guys out. Yeah, we've been

1480
01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:41.079
<v Speaker 2>going for a while. That's all right. We can take

1481
01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:42.159
<v Speaker 2>some of the cold open up.

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01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:46.479
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize it is being recorded. Yeah, I didn't

1483
01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:47.319
<v Speaker 1>say anything racist.

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01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:54.039
<v Speaker 2>That is one of four movies it's coming out in

1485
01:08:54.159 --> 01:08:58.439
<v Speaker 2>like a two month stretch that is directed by a YouTuber,

1486
01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:01.079
<v Speaker 2>which is a really new trend because the back Rooms,

1487
01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:05.960
<v Speaker 2>which is an Oshkosh based horror movie is it was

1488
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:08.920
<v Speaker 2>directed by a YouTuber coming out on the twenty ninth,

1489
01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:13.199
<v Speaker 2>so that's really yeah, And there's like four horror movies

1490
01:09:13.279 --> 01:09:15.119
<v Speaker 2>that all came out like bang bang banging. It was like,

1491
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:17.000
<v Speaker 2>why does horror feel so new right now? It's like

1492
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:19.399
<v Speaker 2>because you're getting a perspective that you've never gotten to.

1493
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:23.279
<v Speaker 2>And like these YouTubers made shorts that were scary, so

1494
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:25.119
<v Speaker 2>they would do like a two minute short, and someone

1495
01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:28.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm gonna give you five million dollars to

1496
01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:31.640
<v Speaker 2>do something, and like whether or not it hits or

1497
01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:32.880
<v Speaker 2>not is going to be in the eye of the

1498
01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:35.239
<v Speaker 2>beholder and on a case by case basis, but I'm

1499
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:37.800
<v Speaker 2>always for I think that's why Jordan Peeled and Get

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01:09:37.840 --> 01:09:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Out felt so fresh. I think that's why Boots Riley

1501
01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:42.520
<v Speaker 2>and Sorry to Bother You felt so fresh. When you

1502
01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:45.720
<v Speaker 2>get these new faces. Steven Spielberg is obviously going to

1503
01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:47.680
<v Speaker 2>do a good movie. He always does it. You know

1504
01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:50.560
<v Speaker 2>how he's gonna shoot it, you get well, you know

1505
01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:52.640
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Yeah, okay, yeah, you know it's at

1506
01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:56.800
<v Speaker 2>least gonna be technically sound. Yes, whereas this you can

1507
01:09:56.920 --> 01:09:58.720
<v Speaker 2>be like, why why did they make this decision? Like

1508
01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:00.680
<v Speaker 2>they could do something to other why did they think

1509
01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:02.560
<v Speaker 2>this was the right move, and like that it could

1510
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:05.199
<v Speaker 2>suck or could be like, oh how neat and so

1511
01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:07.560
<v Speaker 2>like obsessions. One of them though, which caught my eye,

1512
01:10:07.760 --> 01:10:09.520
<v Speaker 2>and I will be pitching the back rooms to you,

1513
01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:12.680
<v Speaker 2>okay in the near future. Yeah, Iron the intern taught

1514
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:13.399
<v Speaker 2>me what they are.

1515
01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:14.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's like some gen z.

1516
01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Bullshit, like this sounds thought you've taught you about what

1517
01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:19.640
<v Speaker 2>what the back rooms are because this is like a

1518
01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:22.600
<v Speaker 2>ten year old like it's like a yellowish room. I'll

1519
01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:24.319
<v Speaker 2>show you a picture after we get off the air,

1520
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:27.760
<v Speaker 2>and it's basically like the back rooms the back office.

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01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on, is this

1522
01:10:30.720 --> 01:10:32.800
<v Speaker 1>the one where it's like seemingly that you go in

1523
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:36.359
<v Speaker 1>the back room and it's just endless. We are totally

1524
01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:39.479
<v Speaker 1>doing that because I saw I saw a trailer for

1525
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:43.359
<v Speaker 1>this and like, my god, this looks unbelievable. I didn't realize. Okay,

1526
01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:48.199
<v Speaker 1>yes percent, and then like the cast is decent, Yeah

1527
01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:48.880
<v Speaker 1>it is, yeah.

1528
01:10:48.760 --> 01:10:51.600
<v Speaker 2>And it's a it's a YouTube director who did YouTube

1529
01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:53.239
<v Speaker 2>shorts about the back room.

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01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:56.439
<v Speaker 1>That's messed up, and so I'm excited. Now when does

1531
01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that come out?

1532
01:10:57.319 --> 01:10:58.119
<v Speaker 2>The next Friday.

1533
01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, perfect, so we won't be waiting long. Yeah. There

1534
01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:03.279
<v Speaker 1>was one other thing I was gonna say, Oh, I

1535
01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:05.439
<v Speaker 1>think you told me this before. Horror Is that the

1536
01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:07.840
<v Speaker 1>cheapest to make genre?

1537
01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Okay, Blair Witch kind of opened the door to like, wait,

1538
01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:12.960
<v Speaker 2>we can make how much money with eight thousand dollars?

1539
01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Like that? Was that kind of I think there's something

1540
01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:18.600
<v Speaker 1>to be said of, like, you know, different things creep

1541
01:11:18.680 --> 01:11:19.600
<v Speaker 1>different people out.

1542
01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like you could be creeped out.

1543
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:25.039
<v Speaker 1>By something that you're seeing, sure at somebody else's not

1544
01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:28.159
<v Speaker 1>think about. But comedies don't work that way. Dramas don't work.

1545
01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:30.239
<v Speaker 2>That now they don't know they don't And like, think

1546
01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:32.920
<v Speaker 2>about in the early two thousands, the two biggest highest

1547
01:11:33.039 --> 01:11:36.960
<v Speaker 2>grossing horror movies were the Saw franchise and the Paranormal

1548
01:11:37.039 --> 01:11:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Activity movies. And the Saw franchises you needed all of

1549
01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:44.000
<v Speaker 2>these prosthetics and gore in special effects. And the Paranormal

1550
01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Activity movies you need a camera in the corner of

1551
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:49.039
<v Speaker 2>the room and you'd tie a string to some blankets

1552
01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:51.199
<v Speaker 2>and you'd yank the blankets and like, both of them

1553
01:11:51.239 --> 01:11:52.399
<v Speaker 2>made a hundred million dollars.

1554
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:54.800
<v Speaker 1>And think about this too, how fast could you churn

1555
01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:58.119
<v Speaker 1>out those paranormal actors like we saw? I mean, yeah,

1556
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:02.399
<v Speaker 1>the physical opsicles are there, But at the same time, dude,

1557
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the multi layered storylines that went into saw. Oh my god,

1558
01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:12.359
<v Speaker 1>paranormal activity. It's a ghost and they're probably evil. That's enough,

1559
01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:14.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm good. We don't, we don't. You don't

1560
01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:16.039
<v Speaker 1>need anything else other than that.

1561
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's why chances get taken in horror, and

1562
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:22.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm all about taking chances. So yeah, it's good stuff there.

1563
01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:24.960
<v Speaker 2>All right, we got an agenda here. I think we're

1564
01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:27.319
<v Speaker 2>good to go. That's Mortal Kombat. To check it out.

1565
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Won't uh won't change your world, but uh, be.

1566
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Honest with you, if you're listening to this podcast, you've

1567
01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:35.399
<v Speaker 1>probably already seen it, you know, Like like I I

1568
01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:37.600
<v Speaker 1>don't think we're gonna sell anybody of Mortal Kombat too.

1569
01:12:37.640 --> 01:12:40.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that, Like, yeah, you're if you if if

1570
01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:43.760
<v Speaker 1>you're a fan of this, if you're a fan of

1571
01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:46.119
<v Speaker 1>Mortal Kombat, you probably already saw it or planning on

1572
01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:49.279
<v Speaker 1>seeing careless and no matter and Ben, I'll be honest,

1573
01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:52.359
<v Speaker 1>honest with you, I don't even care if they keep

1574
01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:54.479
<v Speaker 1>making these I don't even care if they if they

1575
01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:57.000
<v Speaker 1>if they suck, I'm just gonna keep seeing.

1576
01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm right there with you, man. There's a couple of

1577
01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:00.560
<v Speaker 2>series like that that I'm just like, just do it

1578
01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:03.399
<v Speaker 2>till I die. I'm fine with that, all right, guys,

1579
01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:05.159
<v Speaker 2>thanks for listening. We'll talk to you next week.