WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:04.400 Mm hm. Welcome to another episode of Our Interesting Time. 2 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:07.599 Is my pleasure to have Jay Dyer back on the show. Jay, 3 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:07.960 how you. 4 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:10.519 Doing doing great? How are you great? 5 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:14.759 Thanks for coming back on the show. Now. Of course, 6 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:19.760 you are the host of Jay's Analysis jays Analysis dot com. 7 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:23.239 You're also the author of Esoteric Hollywood, Hollywood Sex Calls 8 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:27.519 and Symbols and Film and Uh, well, what you cover 9 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.239 in that book I think is relevant tonight. But when 10 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:32.719 I wanted to talk about tonight, you've done a number 11 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:37.759 of interviews and also some talks analyzing the career and 12 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:43.880 works of Zebnubrazinski, who passed away uh last spring. Uh, 13 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:46.759 And I want to discuss his role in promoting technocracy 14 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:51.880 as well as technocracies subsequent implementation through you know, the government, 15 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:57.600 government policies, government agencies, the corporations NGOs, and of course entertainment, 16 00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:00.359 you know, like Hollywood or even the Disney coortd operation. 17 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:05.599 And maybe we'll discuss a little of the history of 18 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:08.640 technocracy itself, of why he was developed in the nineteen thirties. 19 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:12.439 But anyway, Zibya Brazinski, you've done a few talks on 20 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:16.680 him his books, and let's talk about Brazinsky was what 21 00:01:16.760 --> 00:01:17.439 was he all about? 22 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:23.319 Well, he was, of course, as I mentioned, a refugee, 23 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:25.280 I guess you could say, not in the sense of 24 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:33.079 refugees flooding Europe, but refugee fleeing Europe from the Soviet era. 25 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:38.159 And his parents were reported at least to be of 26 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:43.599 noble descent from Poland. And so Rashensky leaving Poland under 27 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:47.760 Soviet actation and then going to Canada, I think is 28 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:51.319 what kind of well most people agree that propelled his 29 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:56.799 anti Russian fervor, so Brazenski almost I think a natural 30 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:02.400 so Brezenski was, of of course fleeing Soviet occupation, and 31 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:07.400 he therefore made a great recruit into the brain trust 32 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:12.000 of the Anglo American establishment, and it was McGill University, which, 33 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:15.039 interestingly I never heard anybody else make a connection to 34 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:18.520 MK ultra. And I don't know that there's any direct 35 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:21.000 work that Brazenski did in New Culture, but it's interesting 36 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.240 that he was at one of those central schools for 37 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:29.960 the MK ulture programs, McGill University, and it's there that 38 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:33.479 he would I think be eyed by different people a 39 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:38.479 potential recruit for CFR type work. And so when he 40 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:41.680 wrote the between Two Ages, which is the book that 41 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:44.319 kind of predicts a lot of where we'd go in 42 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:48.360 the electronic age, the technocratic age that was in nineteen 43 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:52.000 seventy it's really this that caught the eye of David Rockefeller. 44 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:55.639 And that's what many books on Brazenski will discuss, is that, 45 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:58.479 you know, that's why he was fingered for this role. 46 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:02.960 And David reportedly called Henry Kissinger and said, I've got 47 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:06.599 somebody for this new role that we need to start, 48 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:09.520 or it is either Henry called David or David called Henry, 49 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:13.159 one of the two, and they decided that's a big 50 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:18.039 would be perfect for the first Chairman of the Trilateral 51 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:22.680 Commission in nineteen seventy three. So it was there that 52 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:27.759 he began, I think, to really do the deep state work. 53 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:30.919 I mean, I'm sure prior to that. And he does 54 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:36.479 actually cite Samuel Huntington and people like that. So Brezenski 55 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:39.199 is in that school of Bernard Lewis and Samuel Huntington. 56 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:42.599 That's people that he learned from, and of course adopted 57 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:46.719 the Heartland theory and studied Halfred mckinder and all that. 58 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:49.360 And I won't rehearse that. I'm sure your audience is 59 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:54.439 familiar with it, but so he takes that approach certainly 60 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:59.439 to geopolitics. But what's unique about Brezenski are three or 61 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:02.400 four things and interesting. I had a pretty heated debate 62 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:06.039 with Kevin Cole over this, but I think I'm pretty 63 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:10.960 correct in stating that it's really Brazenski that pioneers the 64 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:16.959 electronic and smart application of these technologies of regime change, 65 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:20.519 and so that's what's I think the big Well, actually, 66 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:22.360 you could argue there are quite a few things in 67 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:29.439 between two ages that are future oriented and presage a 68 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:33.160 lot of what we're seeing nowadays. So everybody talks about 69 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:36.160 the weather weapons stuff that's in the footnotes in certain 70 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:36.959 sections of the book. 71 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:40.279 But he also saw all kinds of things. 72 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:44.600 Like online education that people would be taking their classes online, 73 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:50.279 that you could back basically re engineer society through the internet. 74 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:53.680 So a lot of people will talk about technocracy and 75 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:57.800 forget that the internet is what he's talking about when 76 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:01.160 he's talking about technocracy. That's that's probably one of the 77 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:05.720 biggest examples of technocracy that you could think of. So 78 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:09.639 Brazenski four saw the important role that the internet would 79 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:12.480 take in everyone's lives you know, all the way back 80 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:13.480 in nineteen seventy. 81 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:15.600 And as I said, that's why I think. 82 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:18.879 David Rockefeller saw him as somebody who was very important 83 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:22.480 and crucial for these deep state roles. And of course 84 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:25.480 we know that he was the National Security Advisor under 85 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:30.399 Jimmy Carter, and it's in that role that he implemented 86 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:32.480 these other kinds of technologies that I was talking about 87 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:36.360 related to the newer models of regime change. So instead 88 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:40.360 of those older CIA models of you know, assassinating Mosadic 89 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:44.759 or something, or attempting to assassinate some leader having a 90 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:48.519 coup against Mosad, excuse me. You know, that model was 91 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:52.560 replaced eventually from the fifties into the. 92 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:54.639 More soft power approach. 93 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:58.879 Now, granted, soft power certainly goes back to the old 94 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:02.639 imperial models of the ancient world. But what Brazenski was 95 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:08.399 so useful at was integrating these models into the usage 96 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:11.199 of technology. And that's what he I think you could 97 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:13.720 safely say he's a pioneer of. And so back in 98 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:16.079 the seventies he talked about the need for an arc 99 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:20.519 of crisis that would stretch, if I recall from the Balkans, 100 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:26.279 the Caucasus to Middle East, to Southeast Asia even Yeah, 101 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.839 there's a great long article by Andrew Gavin Marshall at 102 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:35.279 Global Research that does a really lengthy discussion of what 103 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:38.560 appeared to be examples of Zensky's arc of crises, you know, 104 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:41.439 all the way basically bombings, all the way back into 105 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:44.079 the seventies, you know, all the way up to the 106 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:48.040 Mumbai bombings, the Bali bombings and so forth, London bombings, 107 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:50.399 and how a lot of this really fits with this 108 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:54.480 model that we're talking about from Brazenski. And if one 109 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:59.240 reads the excellent articles that Venesza Bili and Patrick Henningson 110 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:03.040 have done on smart power soft power, and you understand 111 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:06.560 Bresinski's works and you understand, you know, the examples of 112 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:12.399 stuff like him co creating with Hamid Ghoul and Robert 113 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:17.160 Gates the Musja Haden or Slash al Qaeda freedom fighters 114 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:20.920 in nineteen seventy eight, seventy nine, then you understand basically 115 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:22.879 the whole model of what you see in the world today. 116 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:25.839 So Brezenski, I think is the key. And he's a little, 117 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:32.079 you could argue even a little more relevant than Carol. 118 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:34.240 He's a kind of Carol Quiggly, but without all the 119 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:38.680 fun because he's crazy. He's Carol Quickly meets bertrand Russell 120 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:41.879 with no nonsense, just straight to the point. Here's how 121 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:45.639 we're going to get the technocracy, you know. And certainly 122 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:48.240 towards the middle of Tragy and Hope, Quigly has a 123 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:51.519 couple really fat chapters that deal with, you know, the 124 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:55.120 implementation of technocracy and the AI computers and the military 125 00:07:55.120 --> 00:08:00.480 industrial complex and the managerial society that's coming. But Razensky, 126 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:05.319 I think, is not just a you know, Quickly his 127 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:10.000 history writer archivist. He's an implementer. And that's the big 128 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:12.519 key here is that Brazenski is a point man for 129 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:16.560 not just writing about this, but also implementing these new 130 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:24.439 technologies that will utilize the latest in tech to achieve destabilization, 131 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:28.920 archive crisis, regime change, et cetera, et cetera, to really 132 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:33.720 destabilize all of the post World War two Soviet uh 133 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:37.080 what it eventually functions to do is to destabilize the 134 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:41.799 Soviet satellites. And so this once the Soviet Empire collapses, 135 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:45.879 that was largely, as I said, a result of this 136 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.679 arc of crisis technology model that Brazhensky had had really 137 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:53.879 dreampt up and That's why he was so useful to 138 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:57.399 the oligarchs. And so in many ways, as I said, 139 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:02.360 for Praxis, he was He's more more relevant than even 140 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:04.879 a quickly you could argue quickly will tell you more 141 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:08.039 about the bankers and history, but Brazensky's going to tell 142 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:11.080 you more about you know, how to understand what you 143 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:14.159 see on CNN, you know, when you see the news 144 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:18.519 talking about, you know, a coup here and a destabilization there. 145 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:22.559 Once you really nail down Brazensky, you can understand what 146 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:26.360 you're watching. So that, I think is what sums up Brazensky. 147 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:31.320 And of course there's other peripheral addendum material that we 148 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.480 can talk about with Grand Chess Board and how it 149 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:37.000 kind of predicts nine to eleven in subtle ways, it 150 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:40.960 predicts the Ukraine crisis, you know, back in nineteen ninety eight, 151 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:43.519 seven ninety seven, when you wrote the book that we 152 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:44.600 saw in twenty fourteen. 153 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:46.360 So that's what you're looking at. 154 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:49.240 You're looking at a major geopolitical thinker, of the caliber 155 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:53.559 of a player, you know, of the caliber of a kissinger, 156 00:09:54.799 --> 00:10:00.360 you know, who's really putting into practice the ideology. So 157 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:04.080 he's not just a brains he's also you know, he 158 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:08.480 also flies over there in the famous CBS clip you 159 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:12.200 know that land that is yours, God is with you, 160 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:15.120 you take it back, as he tells the freedom fighters 161 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:15.960 in Afghanistan. 162 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:21.600 The uh he's uh, he's sort of quickly he's Carol. 163 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.200 He's Carol Cooley without the Irish charm. 164 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:26.759 That's a good way. But that's better. 165 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:27.960 Yeah. 166 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:32.279 But but with with the with all the bertrand Russell. Yeah, yeah, 167 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:34.639 you know, bare bones, atheistic, pragmatic. 168 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:36.919 Just there's no sentimentalism with him, you know. 169 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:40.120 Now. 170 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:48.399 Uh I discussed uh Braziski with uh with recently and 171 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:53.759 uh with Joe uh at well hm and he just 172 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:57.919 we just were talking about how it figures like Brazinski 173 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:04.039 and uh Henry Kiss they're both foreign, right, and that 174 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:06.840 these these distinct accents that they never seem to be 175 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:12.159 able to shed despite years of living living in North America. 176 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:15.279 And he seemed to think that there's accents himself or 177 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:21.279 a function of their role in sort of intimidating and Americans, 178 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:24.120 you know, with their PhDs and their uh you know, 179 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:30.240 their positions in academia, that they're the ones with the education, 180 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:33.600 the knowledge and the wisdom to sort of control plan 181 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:35.559 the world, or at least play their part and planning 182 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:38.360 the world. And I always thought it was fun both 183 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:40.799 him and him and Kissinger, who were these two huge 184 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:45.279 figures in the late twentieth century. And uh in I guess, 185 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:49.480 uh strategizing for the Atlantis powers, both of them. You know, 186 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:53.279 at these German Germanic accents, Prussian and almost Prussian and 187 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:56.200 all age Polish becomes the air of the world where 188 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:00.000 you know, there's real ethnically, ethnically is not much different, 189 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:04.559 you know, European and how just example, once can how 190 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:07.759 America has been conquered by Europeans. 191 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:11.679 You know, that's an interesting point. I've never thought about that, 192 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:14.720 kind of took it at face value, but yeah, they 193 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:18.960 could have you know, they could have been menacing in 194 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:19.840 their affectation. 195 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:23.320 Yeah, it was like it was always that was overdone. 196 00:12:23.480 --> 00:12:28.480 It was like interesting, So I just that's interesting. Another 197 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:33.440 thing is to what extent, I know he's a described 198 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:35.879 as sort of a go for a lieutenant for the 199 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:40.679 elite but in and playing such a large role in 200 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:44.320 devising strategy for the Atlantist powers, for the elite powers 201 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:47.440 that are really behind these nation states that are play 202 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:51.279 things for the globalist. I mean, if you enjoy as 203 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:55.120 much influence as a Kissinger or Brazinski, let's ask you this, 204 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:58.080 to what extent can they manipulate things themselves because they 205 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:00.399 they're whispering into the ear of the emperor. And of 206 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:03.440 course historically we know that often those people, the gray eminence, 207 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:06.600 the people whispering in the ears of those who are 208 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:09.200 who make that, who make the decisions, might be able 209 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.679 to manipulate things for their own agenda. An example, how 210 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:15.519 well the Cold War might have been for the UH wage, 211 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:19.759 for the UH, for the UH interest that that were 212 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:23.799 behind the Atlantis powers the Anglo American Empire. At the 213 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:26.200 same time, his Polish background probably played a big part 214 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:30.240 in his Rusophobia and his I was he pushing his 215 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:31.279 own agenda here too? 216 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:37.559 I mean, yeah, I'm sure that does come into play, 217 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:41.559 because as I understand, he was pretty successful in a 218 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:44.960 monetary sense. Obviously, I don't know how wealthy Brezenski was, 219 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:48.279 but you know, he's got a fairly prominent daughter who 220 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:52.200 has the TV show with Joe Scarbo that Trump calls 221 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:54.840 quite a ruckus with this week. If you saw that 222 00:13:54.879 --> 00:14:02.120 tweet talking about her face lift, that was But but yeah, 223 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:05.720 I would imagine that that there is as as I mentioned, 224 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:09.840 due to that, you know, fleeing Soviet occupation, as we're 225 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:14.840 told that there was personal motivation and vengeance involved, perhaps, but. 226 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:18.440 You know, he that all the all the better for 227 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:19.039 the Atlantis. 228 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:23.799 Yeah. Yeah, that really fits into the twentieth century strategy 229 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:27.759 that we talked about from Quigley, which dealt with you know, 230 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:30.519 the twenties, the two World Wars basically being about the 231 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:34.399 weakening of Russia, uh and Germany so. 232 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:38.159 And Poland was there to spark the Second World War 233 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:43.639 exactly too, you know, yeah, to kind of lure Hitler 234 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:46.240 into starting another general war in Europe, although it became 235 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.320 a general war and when France and Britain declared war 236 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:52.360 on on Hitler over his you know, invasion of Poland, which. 237 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:55.120 Is grew out of the which is what they encouraged, Yeah, 238 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:55.960 the Polish Corridor. 239 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.799 They encouraged Polish and transience and then did nothing let 240 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:03.799 Poland get crushed between Russia and Germany. So yeah, so 241 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:07.679 again that's another example again then this utilizing that Russian 242 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:11.120 that Polish nationalism that you know that that had been 243 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:16.519 I guess crushed for almost two hundred years between you know, 244 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:20.120 Germany and Russia. Then it became a reason for sparking 245 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:22.960 the World War in the mid twentieth century, early twentieth century. 246 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:28.559 So yeah, what I found so interesting about his writings 247 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:32.240 was the a lot of stuff that you wouldn't expect 248 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:36.360 in there. You wouldn't expect there to be no I mean, 249 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:38.840 it's kind of been floating around conspiracy circles and sights 250 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:41.679 for a long time. But I don't think that that 251 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:48.480 most people would think about weather warfare and electromagnetic frequency 252 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:53.600 warfare as something realistic. Yet it's in the nineteen seventy 253 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:57.360 book by Brazinski, So he was talking about this stuff 254 00:15:57.399 --> 00:16:00.000 a long time ago in all kinds of other things 255 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.240 to I mean, he he even kind of starts out 256 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:07.799 talking about, as I mentioned in my talk, the the 257 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:13.639 usefulness of cosmopolitan areas and how this really breaks down 258 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:17.440 people's attachment to the land, to agriculture, that you there's 259 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:20.559 a there's a big shift that happens in cultures when 260 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.519 they go through the process of you know, industrialization and 261 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:27.320 then modernization and so forth, and how that this impacts 262 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:33.120 the social order, and you know, he sees that model 263 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:37.080 as key to understanding basically what what we've seen in 264 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:41.720 history happen to certain regions or nations right quote, First 265 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:44.120 World nations that have gone through the process of moving 266 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:50.320 from agricultural societies to industrial to modern slash technological societies. 267 00:16:50.600 --> 00:16:53.240 He sees those as microcosm models for the whole of 268 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:55.879 the world. And this is why they're globalist. Globalist is 269 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:58.279 how they think that the same model is going to 270 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:00.840 happen in one of the cheap ways that you're going 271 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:03.000 to do that. It was with the net. The net 272 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:06.599 will make things global and that will move everyone into 273 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:09.920 this high mind. And that's why he's a technocrat. That's 274 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:12.720 the that's the central role here of all of this, 275 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:16.279 and the Internet is the Internet is technocracy. And I 276 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:19.880 mentioned that not to be luddite or to be overly 277 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:24.200 negative or fear porn oriented, but I mean, we just 278 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:27.200 have to understand that that's that's a fact, and that's 279 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:29.319 what Brezenski is talking about. 280 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:30.920 You know, you know what I mean? 281 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:34.039 Oh yeah, Because as you get removed from from the soil, 282 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:37.039 further remove off from nature, you get further removed from 283 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:39.880 the laws that bind nature, and you forget that there's 284 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:42.680 laws still bind you, and you're well, that's how you 285 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:49.000 get to you know, transgenderism in these things, right because uh, 286 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:53.720 you probably saw the movie Her With Yet and how 287 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:57.400 you know, you notice the cold, the surroundings, the urban surroundings, 288 00:17:57.440 --> 00:17:59.400 the apartment, and think's cold exactly. 289 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:00.960 You know, Yeah, that's a great point. 290 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:05.160 The aesthetic of the film really betrays the emptiness. And 291 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:08.200 that's that's really the point of that films. That's you know, 292 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:12.640 he's surrounded by human beings who you know, the kind 293 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:16.920 of one to one connection and love that he's looking for, 294 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:21.160 you know, is ironically the Amy Adams character that the 295 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:22.799 girl is sitting there next to the whole time and 296 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:27.119 he's fixated on this stupid computer program. But but yeah, 297 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:31.079 that's that's a great example of you know, what Brazienski's 298 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:33.680 predicting here and what he would like to see implemented. 299 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:36.839 And when you there's a lot of other interesting interviews 300 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:39.720 that I came across to John Adams dug at one 301 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:43.680 from I think the nineties from the New York Times 302 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:47.480 or something like that. But in that interview, he it's 303 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:51.319 a linked with Brazienski. He goes into thinks like consumerism 304 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:55.599 and americanism, and that's also very revealing because there, he's 305 00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:58.960 it's more modern. You know, it's twenty five years after 306 00:18:59.279 --> 00:19:02.759 between two eight, and he's saying, look, we're at the 307 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:08.640 point now where America is basically the battering ram to 308 00:19:08.680 --> 00:19:11.519 break down all ideologies across the globe. 309 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:13.680 And that's something I've been arguing for a long time. 310 00:19:13.720 --> 00:19:15.200 And a lot of people take issue with that, and 311 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:17.559 they have a very you know, they feel that I'm 312 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:21.279 being unpatriotic or being mean or something like that, when 313 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:24.759 all I'm telling you is that that Americanism can be 314 00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:30.160 used as a tool to destroy other countries and other traditions, 315 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:34.480 not for something better, but for the purpose of the globalists. 316 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:36.440 And Brazinski says that. 317 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:38.880 He explicitly says that in that interview. 318 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:42.240 He says, now, obviously he doesn't give a shit about America, 319 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:46.079 he has no concern about but he basically says it's 320 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:50.319 a costume that can be worn to spread hope in 321 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:54.640 the sense of quote American democracy, which he moraliss says 322 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:57.039 is just oligarchical rule. He knows that there's no such 323 00:19:57.079 --> 00:20:01.759 thing as actual democracy, and so, you know, he explodes 324 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:06.599 the mythology that it's it's it's not true, it's American 325 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:08.319 patriotism is basically dead. 326 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:09.519 It's been dead for a long time. 327 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:13.559 And so to be you know, mindlessly pro American if 328 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:15.680 so many people are and you know, supports the troops 329 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:18.319 and all this kind of stuff, it's really just serving 330 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:23.680 the oligarchical agenda. And Prazenski is a prime oligarch to 331 00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:27.920 show that, you know, he has no qualms about just 332 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:30.920 saying flat out it's kind of like, I don't remember 333 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:34.200 if it was you or or somebody was doing a 334 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:37.079 show an interview and they were talking about I think 335 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:39.519 it was Alan Watt was doing a discussion about Prince 336 00:20:39.559 --> 00:20:42.559 Philip and that they don't really like to give him 337 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:47.000 interviews often because he just oftentimes he'll just stay straight 338 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:51.119 out what they want to do, like, but of course 339 00:20:51.160 --> 00:20:53.599 I want to see full billion people dead, don't you 340 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:57.720 don't you want to see it wasn't dead, the Hillman's cancer. 341 00:20:58.279 --> 00:21:02.359 So they don't give him that interview because you know, 342 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:05.000 he's a little too blunt. In many ways, Marzenski is 343 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:10.000 pretty blunt too. He just flat out says that consumerism 344 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:15.039 and Americanism are the means by which you can destroy religion, 345 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:20.079 and that's really kind of a thesis of between two 346 00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:22.799 ages is that the three things that are there are 347 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:26.319 ideology is dead, religion is dead, Nation states dead, and 348 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:29.400 Marxism now is dead. So all of those are you know, 349 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:32.039 kind of come and gone. There goes to the past, 350 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:36.799 and we can move into the technocratic age. So hence 351 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:41.319 between two ages, that's the new transition period that we're 352 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:42.880 going into, is what he's talking about. 353 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:49.880 Yeah, you talk about the Chris the exportation of Americanism 354 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:55.400 and consumerism, materialism abroad. But one thing it does not 355 00:21:56.279 --> 00:22:01.000 result in the material abundance the rest of the world. 356 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:05.240 That's just the uh it really it relies on impoverishing 357 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:09.400 the world through the uh you know, the economic Hitman model, 358 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:16.000 the oh the World Bank, uh you know, the International 359 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:18.519 Monetary Fund, these things. I think all these things that 360 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.240 the bridisci said were great in bringing about this globalization. 361 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.680 But before that was uh successfully done, it was of 362 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:29.400 course it had to be applied domestically here in the 363 00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:35.640 United States, and here in that States you had, through wars, 364 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:39.599 the economic crises and then prosperity, the destruction of any 365 00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:45.720 ethnic consciousness or identity here among the particularly among the 366 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:48.839 white the white majority. In fact, you know, the bland 367 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:50.759 white majority is sort of a just sort of a 368 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:57.119 denature derastinated, uh, conglomeration of the former ethnic groups. You know, 369 00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:00.759 we see little bits of it, little Italy here, there's 370 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:04.119 Saint Patrick's Day, Sat Past Jay Parade, even that's been corrupted. 371 00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:10.960 But the breakup, ironically, of of these urban neighborhoods into 372 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:15.839 suburbia through various social engineering schemes, whether it's the construction 373 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:22.359 of the Interstate highway system or the creation of the 374 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:25.920 you know, of the thirty year mortgage courtesy the federal government, 375 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:28.920 these things. And this, of course, this coincides with the 376 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:32.759 postwar boom, the Second World War, and this explosion and 377 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:36.680 consumption and this this is where you see the sort 378 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:40.720 of this breakdown of any the ethnic or religious identity 379 00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:45.160 among various ethnic groups. They became white Americans, but the 380 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:47.119 only thing they could really identify with each other would 381 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:51.000 be their consumption habits, whether it's the music Elvis Presley 382 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:55.039 or the Beatles, or you know, the hula hoop jeans, 383 00:23:55.440 --> 00:24:01.279 you know, the T shirt, these things. And so once again, 384 00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:04.720 once they lose any ethnic identity, uh, they can easily 385 00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:07.559 be manipulated through consumerism, which is what he's talking about here. 386 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:11.960 And this becomes the good life. Of course. Uh that's 387 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:16.480 promoted through uh uh mass communication, through time life, uh, 388 00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:20.119 you know, through the Disney corporation. Sports is a big 389 00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:24.160 thing because sports is now sort of a substitute for 390 00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:31.160 maybe uh tribal or regional uh patriotisms that might have existed, 391 00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:33.599 you know, uh so now but that's but that's all 392 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.119 part of the corporate monstrosity because through sports you can 393 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:40.839 promote all types of social you know, agendas or engineering 394 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:46.400 schemes we're seeing with the NFL and the NBA, or transgenderism, 395 00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:52.559 you know these things. So here in the again, I'm 396 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:54.039 saying it had to had to be done here first, 397 00:24:54.039 --> 00:24:55.400 we had to be first to be conquered here in 398 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:57.279 the United States, for for is exported. 399 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:01.400 Yeah, and Brazenski was very, i think conscious of that 400 00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:07.519 because he wore the cloak of liberal many many years, 401 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:09.720