Speaker 1: All right, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Drave time Thursday afternoon, six minutes past the hour, two o'clock.
Speaker 1: Got some cloud coverage.
Speaker 2: Today, little rain earlier this morning here in downtown Salt
Speaker 2: Lake City Talk. It's about eighty two degrees and cloudy outside.
Speaker 2: Kind of feels a little bit like a fall day.
Speaker 2: But as it is every day, it's going to have
Speaker 2: you along for the ride. Spence check. It's beyond the
Speaker 2: mic of that is Porter Larson, beyond the glass producing
Speaker 2: the show today. Happy Thursday to you. You're almost to
Speaker 2: the weekend. Hopefully you're having a good work week and
Speaker 2: have some fun plans for what could be one of
Speaker 2: the final warm weather weekends that we see. You never
Speaker 2: know because we live in a complicated weather pattern state.
Speaker 2: Not sure if you've noticed that. Hello, Hello, how are you?
Speaker 2: Thanks for making us a part of your day.
Speaker 1: A lot going on.
Speaker 2: The PGA Tour is focused on East Lake in Atlanta
Speaker 2: as the Tour Championship is going.
Speaker 1: On as we speak. First rounds.
Speaker 2: Colin morri Coowa is in the clubhouse at six hundred
Speaker 2: par shot at sixty four, but Justin Thomas is your leader.
Speaker 2: JT is seven under through thirteen holes. Fourteen holes now
Speaker 2: seven hundred through fourteen. Robert McIntyre trying to capitalize on
Speaker 2: a good weekend last weekend, even though he couldn't get
Speaker 2: the win at six hundred par Patrick Candleig Russell Henley
Speaker 2: at five under par.
Speaker 1: So some good starts for a lot of the golfers
Speaker 1: at East Lake.
Speaker 2: As the Tour Championship is going on right now, we
Speaker 2: are two days away from the start of college football.
Speaker 2: That's right, you made it. Two days away from the
Speaker 2: start of college football. Week zero gets going Saturday morning
Speaker 2: in Dublin, Ireland with Iowa State and Kansas State. Big
Speaker 2: game between two Big twelve teams. Some games of note
Speaker 2: may be interested in checking out Kansas as they host Fresno.
Speaker 2: Stanford will be on the Rock taking on Hawaii. And
Speaker 2: then we launch in Week one next week and we
Speaker 2: are nine days away from game day or are local
Speaker 2: teams for Utah for BYU for Utah States.
Speaker 1: Of course, Utah will be at the Rose Bowl taking
Speaker 1: out on UCLA.
Speaker 2: Brigham Young welcomes in Portland State and the Bronco and
Speaker 2: Benanhall era begins in Logan with a matchup against Utah.
Speaker 2: So two days away from the start of college football
Speaker 2: and two weeks away as of today from the start
Speaker 2: of pro football. The final weekend of the preseason in
Speaker 2: the NFL starts tonight with two games, the Steelers and
Speaker 2: the Panthers from Charlotte, North Carolina and the Patriots and
Speaker 2: the Giants at East Rutherford.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the.
Speaker 2: Giants, young Jackson Dart receiving reps with the twos today,
Speaker 2: So it looks like Jackson Dart potentially could be the
Speaker 2: backup quarterback to Russell Wilson, maybe move ahead of Jameis Winston.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 2: Little local NFL news on the program today, we broke
Speaker 2: the news.
Speaker 1: Well we didn't break it.
Speaker 2: We read a tweet that broke it that Devon Vley
Speaker 2: is on his way to the Big easy to play
Speaker 2: for the Saints. A lot of people believe the Saints
Speaker 2: are tanking this year to potentially select arch Manning. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the city of New Orleans and the family of Manning
Speaker 2: savve rich history.
Speaker 1: No guarantee that Archie is gonna leave school.
Speaker 2: His grandpa Archie Manning legend has set on a couple
Speaker 2: of occasions.
Speaker 1: He'll bea Texas next year.
Speaker 2: Remember, Eli and Peyton both played four years of college
Speaker 2: at Tennessee at Old Miss for going pro.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes down.
Speaker 2: Put a lot of football in the show today from
Speaker 2: college football in addition to some NFL. We're inching closer
Speaker 2: and closer to the start of training camp in the
Speaker 2: NBA and the NHL. So Jazz fans, Mammoth fans, your
Speaker 2: time will come, Ray Ause salt Lake making a couple
Speaker 2: of different moves. This one broke about an hour ago.
Speaker 2: Body Hidalgo is on his way to c F Montreal.
Speaker 2: Body has played ninety first team games for RSL, twenty
Speaker 2: three years old. Proud Davis County boy. I think he
Speaker 2: went to Davis High School for Fruit Heights kid. And
Speaker 2: obviously that news follows a big piece of news that broke.
Speaker 2: As we said good night last night. We thought it
Speaker 2: was going to be official this morning. But Tom Bogert,
Speaker 2: who is kind of like the Adam Schefter of MLS,
Speaker 2: reported right after we signed off air, and we talked
Speaker 2: to Pablo yesterday.
Speaker 1: If you missed that conversation, the head.
Speaker 2: Coach of RSEL joined us and teased that they had
Speaker 2: potentially acquired a defender from Cincinnati with a lot of
Speaker 2: net tattoos, and if you look at Cincinnati's roster, there's
Speaker 2: really only one option. DeAndre Jedlin is on the ground
Speaker 2: and has been signed to a long term deal by RSL.
Speaker 2: So after acquiring DeAndre Yedlin, he plays the same position
Speaker 2: as Body does.
Speaker 1: Body is now.
Speaker 2: On his way to Montreal. So do a little RSL
Speaker 2: on the program today. We'll get to know this young
Speaker 2: man who is now on the ground plane potentially right
Speaker 2: back right away. I mean, we'll see if he plays
Speaker 2: on Saturday against Minnesota, which really is.
Speaker 1: A must win in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: We talked about that with Pablo yesterday. But DeAndre Yedlin
Speaker 2: is a big name in the world of domestic soccer.
Speaker 1: He played in a couple of World Cups.
Speaker 2: He's been overseas with bubbs, including my Tottenham Spurs. He
Speaker 2: wasn't there that long, played in Miami with Messi, and
Speaker 2: then most recently has been with Cincinnati, and now he's
Speaker 2: on the ground for RSL, filling a void avoid quite
Speaker 2: frankly that's been there since Aaron Herrero was traded a
Speaker 2: number of years ago. So we'll get to know the
Speaker 2: new RSL player on the program today and bounce around
Speaker 2: with a bunch of different things. The Yankees and the
Speaker 2: Red Sox are playing, so we've got some Major League
Speaker 2: Baseball Pennant races are heating up.
Speaker 1: It feels like everybody continues to.
Speaker 2: Talk about the Micah Parsons Dallas Cowboy drama. Jerry Jones
Speaker 2: cannot keep his mouth shut.
Speaker 1: He went on TV.
Speaker 2: Today and basically indicated that he's I mean, if you
Speaker 2: read between the lines with his comments, they're clearly low
Speaker 2: balling the best player they have on that roster and
Speaker 2: one of the top I don't know, ten or fifteen
Speaker 2: players in all of the NFL, final year of his
Speaker 2: five year rookie deal, and I get the side of
Speaker 2: it where it's like he signed a contract on or
Speaker 2: the contract, but ultimately not how it works when you're
Speaker 2: as good as Michaeh Parsons is. And if I'm Jerry Jones,
Speaker 2: I'm paying the kid, and I'm paying him yesterday. But
Speaker 2: I speed ahead two NFL football in two weeks from today.
Speaker 2: It will be the Cowboys and the Eagles on Thursday
Speaker 2: Night football up in Philly and two days away from
Speaker 2: the starter college football as well.
Speaker 1: So a lot to do on the program.
Speaker 2: Our first guest will be live in studio and I'm
Speaker 2: excited for this. He is in town for the Counting
Speaker 2: Crows concert.
Speaker 1: I got a direct message last night from my guy
Speaker 1: Roxy Bernstein.
Speaker 2: Now he's also in town. I've got to be careful here.
Speaker 2: He may be listening. If you are, Roxy, Hello, how
Speaker 2: are you love me? Some Counting Crows? But he has
Speaker 2: seen five for fighting on Friday.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, not hell ya.
Speaker 2: But you know what, We're gonna be nice to our
Speaker 2: guy because he's going to join us live in studio,
Speaker 2: so we'll do some college football, We'll do some hockey
Speaker 2: with our guy Roxy as well. Rex Hoggard from the
Speaker 2: Golf Channel, Good day to have Rex on. I was
Speaker 2: watching Golf Channels coverage last night of the pre match
Speaker 2: kind of previ and Rex was highly featured. Nice of
Speaker 2: him to give us some time. I'm sure he's very
Speaker 2: busy today as it is a massive weekend in the
Speaker 2: world of professional golf on the PGA Tour. Kenneth Scott,
Speaker 2: better known as Gooby.
Speaker 1: I knew that, There we go. I knew it. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll get there at the moment.
Speaker 2: But Kenna Scott, former you Wide receiver will join us
Speaker 2: and the newest member of ray Al salt Lake World
Speaker 2: Cup veteran and right back that should step in and
Speaker 2: start right away. DeAndre Jedlin will be on the show today.
Speaker 2: I tried to convince Trey to bring him in studio.
Speaker 2: Betray has changed because he's an angry, emotional man who
Speaker 2: doesn't want to take care of his friends that are
Speaker 2: on air. So DeAndre Jedlin will be a phone who
Speaker 2: should be in studio.
Speaker 1: Betray has changed.
Speaker 2: So we got Roxy burns See and Rex Hoggard Kenna
Speaker 2: Scott better known as Gooby, DeAndre Jedlin. They we'll do
Speaker 2: a little sports core with our friends from Handy and
Speaker 2: Handy as we are wont to do on Thursdays. Me
Speaker 2: Spence checkets all of you, the great listeners, and that
Speaker 2: guy Porter Larson, Oh on a Thursday afternoon. So when
Speaker 2: you set the rundown this morning, my initial reaction was
Speaker 2: because you said Gooby.
Speaker 1: On the rundown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, wait, who's Gooby? But I knew who
Speaker 2: it was when you reminded me it was Kenneth Scott.
Speaker 2: I remembered it was as a nickname. But I will
Speaker 2: admit a moment of confusion. I'm like, he's booking some
Speaker 2: random dude named Gooby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who else would Gooby be? I don't know any
Speaker 3: other Do we know any other goobies? I'm not entirely
Speaker 3: certain where the nickname originates from, but I.
Speaker 1: Don't know that I know any other goobies. No, and
Speaker 1: Dumby no Way or Gumby.
Speaker 2: Of course I remember Gumby, that that annoying like cartoon
Speaker 2: figure that was really stretchy and flex with the green guy?
Speaker 1: Was he Green?
Speaker 2: Well, I you know you and I have this weird
Speaker 2: like connection. At one point we were both nicknamed Dooby. Yes,
Speaker 2: but no, I do not know any other goobies. But
Speaker 2: for a minute I was confused, and then you informed
Speaker 2: me it was Kenneth Scott. We'll ask Kenneth where the
Speaker 2: nickname came from, because I honestly don't know either.
Speaker 3: A couple of doobies and a gooby. Now we're just
Speaker 3: getting weird. Only one handy for sports court. Which handy
Speaker 3: I think? Garrett today? Garrett today?
Speaker 2: No Preston, Okay, Well, we got a busy show and
Speaker 2: gonna be in studio.
Speaker 3: Right Well, he's getting red Iguana, so that might usurp us.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be here on time.
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, you know what, I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 2: Why do all of the media guys roll in and
Speaker 2: immediately go to red Iguana?
Speaker 1: I mean, red Iguana is a good spot. It's good fun.
Speaker 2: They've done a really good job of like co opting
Speaker 2: the thoughts of folks that are visiting to believe that,
Speaker 2: like that's like the only good Mexican place in town.
Speaker 2: You know who else loves himself some red Iguana is
Speaker 2: Frank is Soola.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a sports media thing where and it's you know,
Speaker 3: Jason isbel right. You have to go along with it
Speaker 3: if you're like writing about sports for some reason, I
Speaker 3: like Jason's Bill's fine, He's not same thing. Red Iguana's fine.
Speaker 3: What's the they have? They have one dish that's just phenomenal.
Speaker 3: But for the most part, yeah, it's it's it's not
Speaker 3: the only spot to get good, good Mexican food.
Speaker 1: Insula.
Speaker 2: There was some other artists prior to like the Hey,
Speaker 2: if you're in sports media, you have to like Jason
Speaker 2: isbel Bruce Springsteen. It was Bruce Springsteen. And by the way, fine,
Speaker 2: I mean Bruce Springsteen. Respectfully. I've always believed to be
Speaker 2: a tad bit overrated. I know I'm not supposed to
Speaker 2: make fun of other people's music on the show. After
Speaker 2: the air and airing of the grievances, yeah, I will
Speaker 2: make fun of five for fighting. Okay, well we will
Speaker 2: go deep into Roxy on that. But pick better artists
Speaker 2: for this ride of passage gatekeeping you do for sports media,
Speaker 2: like Bruce Springsteen and Jason isbel to your point, like
Speaker 2: Fine scoops of Vanella ice cream? Who doesn't like vanilla
Speaker 2: but sometimes I like chocolate sauce. You only got one
Speaker 2: hundred years to live, Spence.
Speaker 1: Dope, Nope, don't, don't, don't do it all right.
Speaker 2: Roxy will be our first guest, whether it's in studio
Speaker 2: or via the phone.
Speaker 1: We'll have to see how that goes.
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Speaker 2: On a Thursday afternoon, all right, two days away from
Speaker 2: the starter College football Week zero, two weeks away from
Speaker 2: the start of Pro Football Week one, nine days away
Speaker 2: from game day for our local football teams, as Utah
Speaker 2: will be at the Rose Bowl taking on UCLA. B
Speaker 2: yu welcomes in Portland State for their opener, and Utah
Speaker 2: State will kick off the Bronco Mendenhall Era with a
Speaker 2: matchup against UTEP and still imported this before the start
Speaker 2: of the show. You know this time of year prior
Speaker 2: to the start of games because when we actually have
Speaker 2: football to talk about. You kind of move away from
Speaker 2: the hole, like, Hey, what will the CFP look like?
Speaker 2: Are we done with conference expansion? What do the polls say?
Speaker 2: What do some of the preseason product prognostications sound like?
Speaker 2: But until we get there, it's kind of the deal
Speaker 2: as far as what we talk about concerning expectations for
Speaker 2: the landscape of college football this year, Stuart Mandel the
Speaker 2: latest to give his preseason Big twelve predictions. Remember the
Speaker 2: preseason Big twelve media poll was done away with this
Speaker 2: year because it was manifested last year that none of
Speaker 2: us know a rip about anything. And that's not breaking
Speaker 2: news if you've been in this business. It's just a
Speaker 2: bunch of educated guesses. And there are certain plenty of people,
Speaker 2: certainly plenty of people in this business that throw a
Speaker 2: ton of dart boards at the throw a bunch of
Speaker 2: darts at the dart board and focus on the one
Speaker 2: that sticks. But whether it's Stuart Mandel, whether it's Josh Pate,
Speaker 2: whether it's Joel Clad, you know, any of these college
Speaker 2: football media members that only hone in on college football.
Speaker 2: You know a lot of people, you know, Like with
Speaker 2: this show, we do a little bit of everything. We
Speaker 2: do football, we do soccer, we do basketball, do a
Speaker 2: little baseball, do a little hockey. We try to cover
Speaker 2: all of our local products and keep you up to
Speaker 2: date with any national stories that we find interesting. But
Speaker 2: the game of media has changed so much that there
Speaker 2: are so many media personalities that only hone in on
Speaker 2: one thing, and.
Speaker 1: They focus on specialties.
Speaker 2: So I usually rely upon the opinions of people that
Speaker 2: are focused on one thing when I try to learn
Speaker 2: kind of what the landscape is going to look and
Speaker 2: sound like, as opposed to somebody who's in on everything.
Speaker 2: Like recruiting is an excellent example. Once upon a time
Speaker 2: there really were not recruiting services that only honed in
Speaker 2: on that. It typically was an outlet that did a
Speaker 2: bit of everything, and when recruiting season came, they would
Speaker 2: try to cover that as much as it could. But
Speaker 2: when it comes to college football, there's so many writers
Speaker 2: or podcasters or media members that only hone in on
Speaker 2: a certain thing that it's always interesting for me to
Speaker 2: kind of kick the tires with what they think is
Speaker 2: going to happen. And I think the consensus, at least
Speaker 2: from my vantage point at my echo chamber, as far
Speaker 2: as what I'm focused on is that this season, when
Speaker 2: it comes to the Big Twelve or college football nationwide,
Speaker 2: it is as wide open as it has ever been.
Speaker 2: And I think that the tone and tenor of Big
Speaker 2: Twelve coverage continues to just sound like seven or eight
Speaker 2: teams could potentially win this thing, and that should land
Speaker 2: really well with fans of any team of the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: If ultimately most experts believe seven or eight teams have
Speaker 2: a chance to win the Big Twelve, chances are you're
Speaker 2: a fan of one of those, and I do believe
Speaker 2: both Utah and BYU are kind of in the mix.
Speaker 1: Now. It has been interesting to follow.
Speaker 2: I won't say the fallout, but I will say the
Speaker 2: reaction action to the announcement that Bear Bachmeyer is going
Speaker 2: to start under center for Brigham Young. That has changed
Speaker 2: some expectations for certain people about what BYU will be.
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily adhere to that entirely, only because watching
Speaker 2: BYU a year ago, their success was not predicated.
Speaker 1: On quarterback play. It wasn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, did Jake make some plays here there? Sure
Speaker 2: there's some big moments, some big plays down the stretch.
Speaker 2: He made some big plays down the stretch. Up here
Speaker 2: in Salt Lake when BYU beat Utah, but their success
Speaker 2: did not rely upon the stellar player lack thereof of Jake,
Speaker 2: of Jake Rehetz laugh. That was not eleven win team
Speaker 2: that need a great quarterback play. That was an eleven
Speaker 2: win team that had great play in the trenches, an
Speaker 2: excellent defense, the best defense in the Big Twelve, number
Speaker 2: thirteen rated overall scoring defense in the country, and it
Speaker 2: was kind of like, as long as Jake doesn't mess
Speaker 2: it up, we.
Speaker 1: Have a chance to be just fine.
Speaker 2: The one caveat here is that typically true fresh do
Speaker 2: get their head kicked in, and I will be interested
Speaker 2: to see how long Kale and a Rod decide to
Speaker 2: ride with Bear if he shows some of those true
Speaker 2: freshmen tendencies and mistakes, because there is kind of a
Speaker 2: narrative going around that potentially they made this selection for
Speaker 2: the future and not the presence. You know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if there's any any field like, Okay, we lost
Speaker 2: our quarterback, so we've essentially we need to focus on
Speaker 2: the future. We need to make sure our rosters an't
Speaker 2: got in a good place and is Bear the plan
Speaker 2: for a couple of years before Rider Lions gets back
Speaker 2: from his mission. You know, the highest rated recruit the
Speaker 2: BYUS signed in a number of years. But a lot
Speaker 2: of people have leaned into this whole like, wait, a
Speaker 2: second true freshman.
Speaker 1: We don't know much about him.
Speaker 2: Bear was not on campus until late July, like he's
Speaker 2: been there for a handful of weeks. And I think
Speaker 2: the fact that he won the job is testament to
Speaker 2: the kid and not an indictment on the quarterback room.
Speaker 2: But it has changed the projections and prognostications for a
Speaker 2: lot of people that are trying to predict how the.
Speaker 1: Big twelve is going to go.
Speaker 2: Seems to be I would say consensus in that group
Speaker 2: of teams that people think could potentially win it, not
Speaker 2: necessarily at the top. Arizona State is your favorite in Vegas,
Speaker 2: and that, to me is the team that most people
Speaker 2: have leaned into. But remember a year ago, Utah was
Speaker 2: the team with the proverbial target on their back, and
Speaker 2: this year that appears to be Kenny Dillingham's team at
Speaker 2: Arizona State County. Crows are in town tonight at USANA
Speaker 2: Amphitheater Gaslight Anthem opening.
Speaker 1: That is going to be a damn good show.
Speaker 2: And our next guest is in town only to be
Speaker 2: in studio to do a hit with me, and actually
Speaker 2: has run.
Speaker 1: Into some good fortune because.
Speaker 2: He gets to see his buddies tonight, our guy Roxy
Speaker 2: Bernstein live and studio.
Speaker 1: Great to see him, man, how are you? I'm great, Spence.
Speaker 1: It's good to be here.
Speaker 5: Good to see you face to face for sure, and
Speaker 5: come on this time of the year. It's great to
Speaker 5: be here, and I'm excited for tonight. It's gonna be
Speaker 5: a great show. It's gonna be a fun couple of
Speaker 5: days from me here insult one hundred percent. And you've
Speaker 5: been coming on the show.
Speaker 2: We just turned six last week, so I feel like
Speaker 2: we've had you on pretty much since the start of
Speaker 2: this show with our old connections with a PAC twelve network.
Speaker 1: But face to face is different, man, So it's good.
Speaker 2: I don't know that i've ever even you've been in
Speaker 2: town when I've been at games and you've been calling,
Speaker 2: like at Huntsman or whatever. But I'm not gonna like
Speaker 2: roll down in the middle of the first quarter and
Speaker 2: like interrupt you and Bill Walton.
Speaker 1: May he rest in jeap.
Speaker 2: But it's great to actually kind of put a face
Speaker 2: even though I've seen you on television. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: that we've ever met face to.
Speaker 1: Know if we have.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because yeah, I've been here, but then you've had
Speaker 5: other engagement when you've been out of town.
Speaker 1: It's like two ships passing in the night. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: finally we're physically in the same place. Yes, and it's
Speaker 1: excellent to have you in.
Speaker 2: So have you talked to I know Adam is your boy,
Speaker 2: the lead singer Accounting Crows.
Speaker 1: Does he know you'll be in the house for the
Speaker 1: show that? Yeah, we're texting earlier day.
Speaker 5: He knew I was coming out, Like I always, I
Speaker 5: always trying to pick a place Spence where there's gonna
Speaker 5: be none of our friends. Right, it's we can just
Speaker 5: hang out because like they played Berkeley last week, Yeah,
Speaker 5: and it was a complete zoo, just chaos backstage, and
Speaker 5: I did get to spend some time with him, but
Speaker 5: there's he's getting tugged in so many different directions. We're here,
Speaker 5: we can just go hang out. So literally, when I
Speaker 5: get done here, I'm going to hop in an uber
Speaker 5: and head out to Asana and just hang out. They
Speaker 5: got I think sound check at four, and I'll just
Speaker 5: hang with at him until the show.
Speaker 1: Tonight.
Speaker 2: Now, the reason that's pertinent is, you know, Adam from
Speaker 2: cal right, so he has a lot of friends in
Speaker 2: that market.
Speaker 5: And he grew up there and we didn't go to college.
Speaker 5: Adam's older than we are. You and I are the
Speaker 5: same age, but we had a bunch of mutual friends
Speaker 5: and that's how we became friends. And we've been connected
Speaker 5: now for I don't know thirty plus years. And he's,
Speaker 5: as you know, a huge sports fan, a huge cow fan,
Speaker 5: but he's a huge Warriors fan, Oakland A's fan. I'm
Speaker 5: not going to say the Sacramento As, but the Oakland A's.
Speaker 5: He was a Oakland Raiders say. He still follows the
Speaker 5: Raiders even though they're in Vegas. Loves hockey, He's just
Speaker 5: he's a huge sports fan in general.
Speaker 2: That's and you know, as a child of the nineties,
Speaker 2: as a proud Jet xer, the Crows have a very
Speaker 2: special place in my heart. I've probably seen them six
Speaker 2: or seven times. So I'm not as jealous that you're
Speaker 2: seeing your guy to but I'm jealous you're seeing Gaslight
Speaker 2: because I've never seen them. I've never seen them live.
Speaker 2: I have listened them for years, but Gaslight Anthem and
Speaker 2: you were referenced. Their lead singer is a huge sports
Speaker 2: fan as well.
Speaker 5: He is so Brian is a huge Niners fan growing
Speaker 5: up in New Jersey, New York area. Like, how did
Speaker 5: he become a Niners fan? Well, a bunch of people
Speaker 5: in his family were Jets fans, and the Jets of
Speaker 5: the Jets, right, and when he was growing up. He's
Speaker 5: a little younger than we are, not much, but I
Speaker 5: think of a few years, but the Niners were dominating
Speaker 5: with Montana and Rice and then to Steve Young and
Speaker 5: Ronnie Lott, all those great Niners from yesteryear. They were
Speaker 5: winning him and so it's easy to become a forty
Speaker 5: nine er fan back then the team of the eighties
Speaker 5: and into the nineties, and so he's been a huge
Speaker 5: Niner fan. It was funny because they were at the
Speaker 5: form in La last Tuesday, then played the Greek Theater
Speaker 5: in Berkeley on Wednesday, and he asked Adam Durtz, Brian,
Speaker 5: did are we going anywhere near Levi Stadium?
Speaker 1: I want to go in, Like, well, it's fifty miles away.
Speaker 5: But then he took Brian into the cal equipment room
Speaker 5: at Memorial Stadium. They rated it. He puts on his
Speaker 5: Cal Football T shirt for the gig that night. That's
Speaker 5: awesome and he's like, yeah, now I'm a cow fan.
Speaker 5: So you know, bribery kind of worked its way, but
Speaker 5: now Cal's got a new big fan and Brian from
Speaker 5: a gasline anthem.
Speaker 2: One more thing before we get into some sports. Is
Speaker 2: our guy Adam dating right now?
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay? Well, and do we approve? Yes, we do
Speaker 1: very much.
Speaker 2: So now the only reason I bring it up is
Speaker 2: my potentially my favorite bit because when you first said
Speaker 2: this on my show, I'm like, he's can't be serious.
Speaker 2: Is the fact that you legitimately were beefing with Courtney
Speaker 2: Cox because of the way she treated your friend Adam.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's there's a lot there. There's a lot to
Speaker 5: unpack Spence in that statement there.
Speaker 2: But really I'm like, he's got to be pulling my leg,
Speaker 2: like there's no way our And you know, Adam during
Speaker 2: the nineties had a run.
Speaker 1: Where he dated Courtney for two years? Was there two
Speaker 1: full years? Two years?
Speaker 6: Wow?
Speaker 2: I felt like every couple of years he was moving
Speaker 2: on to the next like celebrity, right, I mean, because
Speaker 2: he for a while he did okay for himself, but
Speaker 2: for a while, rock Syed The Counting Crows were potentially
Speaker 2: the biggest band in America for about four or five
Speaker 2: years in the nineties.
Speaker 1: When they were in that conversation they burst out of
Speaker 1: the scene.
Speaker 5: Was almost like overnight now they Adam struggled for a while.
Speaker 5: He didn't make it till his late twenties, which is
Speaker 5: kind of a rare story for somebody to make it
Speaker 5: that late. But when mister Jones and the album August
Speaker 5: and everything after, it just took off and it exploded
Speaker 5: to the point where he had to get out of Berkeley.
Speaker 5: Like he was living in Berkeley still and he had
Speaker 5: to move because it was just he was getting oversaturated
Speaker 5: in his front yard. People were coming to hang out.
Speaker 5: His parents still lived there for a long time, but
Speaker 5: Adam moved to la And then of course Recovering the
Speaker 5: Satellites was the second album, a great follow up, but
Speaker 5: it just amazing over the span of a month how
Speaker 5: much the band exploded.
Speaker 2: It must have been so cool as a friend to
Speaker 2: watch that success, because you know, we only hear about
Speaker 2: it when they are in our consciousness, when they become famous.
Speaker 2: We rarely see the backwork, and it sounds like Adam
Speaker 2: was probably grinding on smaller.
Speaker 1: Tours for years with other bands. That's so cool.
Speaker 5: Like he was at a band called the Himalayans, where
Speaker 5: if you kind of google that, there's the original version
Speaker 5: of round Here, which is very different from the one
Speaker 5: Counting Crows perform. Yeah, but he brought it over and
Speaker 5: they tweaked it, and it was on August and everything after.
Speaker 5: But like the Himalayans, it was almost more acid rock
Speaker 5: than it was what it became. And it's interesting to
Speaker 5: hear the difference between the two.
Speaker 1: That's really cool. That's really cool.
Speaker 2: All right, let's start with I think most everyone including
Speaker 2: me around here, we know you from the Fact twelve network, right,
Speaker 2: and that obviously I don't know if you've heard that's
Speaker 2: not a thing anymore.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So your full time, your full time with the ESPNS. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for some reason, I just thought you were like contracted
Speaker 2: out all over the place. But your full time with
Speaker 2: the ESPN. So what does the Roxy Bernstein fall calendar
Speaker 2: look like?
Speaker 5: So I've got some college football lined up. I've got
Speaker 5: Arizona State's opener coming up on August thirtieth. Then I
Speaker 5: jump back into Major League Baseball labor day, I'll be
Speaker 5: in Detroit for the Mets and the Tigers. I have
Speaker 5: a family situation going, our family thing down in La.
Speaker 5: So I'm not working college football week two, but then
Speaker 5: week three I'm jumping back in and I've got TCU
Speaker 5: on September thirteenth, and I'll be doing the first two
Speaker 5: rounds of Major League Baseball playoffs more than likely National
Speaker 5: League Wildcard and Division Series, which I've been doing for
Speaker 5: them for years and can't wait for the playoffs and
Speaker 5: down the stretch. And I'll do a number of Pennant
Speaker 5: Race games for ESPN Radio as well.
Speaker 2: So I always have almost like a reverent respect for
Speaker 2: people like you, because you know, another front of the show.
Speaker 1: I an eagle, yeah, who can do anything.
Speaker 2: And you do hockey, you do basketball, you do football,
Speaker 2: you do baseball.
Speaker 1: Is there one that you prefer?
Speaker 2: And what are the challenges of bouncing back and forth
Speaker 2: between sports?
Speaker 5: The way you do The pacing is very different bence
Speaker 5: in terms of baseball. For example, Hockey and basketball are
Speaker 5: so quick, but baseball has that deliberate pace to it,
Speaker 5: and the back and forth, unless you're prepared mentally, can
Speaker 5: be a little different.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 5: And like I'll be going from football to baseball a
Speaker 5: couple of days later. But I love the versatility that
Speaker 5: I get to deal with and the variety of sports. Like, Okay,
Speaker 5: you have to have a certain amount of bandwidth to
Speaker 5: be able to comprehend everything and remember all that story,
Speaker 5: but I follow it religiously, like I, you know, I'm
Speaker 5: so invested in football, in basketball, where most of my
Speaker 5: relationships are, but major League Baseball I've worked for a
Speaker 5: long long time and the NHL. It's funny when ESPN
Speaker 5: got the NHL package back, I hadn't done a hockey
Speaker 5: game in probably twenty years, Like I worked for the
Speaker 5: santals A Sharks years ago, okay, and then my pat
Speaker 5: took me in a different route. But then when ESPN
Speaker 5: got the NHL package back, I'm like, hey, you know,
Speaker 5: I do hockey, and they threw me on some games
Speaker 5: and I've been part of their stable of coverage since.
Speaker 5: This will be what now four years now that ESPN
Speaker 5: has had the NHL package of that seven year contract
Speaker 5: and at least three more years and we'll see where
Speaker 5: it goes. But it seems that ESPN's invested in hockey
Speaker 5: and they're gonna stick with it.
Speaker 2: Is there a endgame that you have in mind, because
Speaker 2: it's you know, like Joe Buck did baseball for years,
Speaker 2: and he did a little bit of everything for years,
Speaker 2: and then he's the voice of Mounted that football, and
Speaker 2: so I would imagine if you got the offer to
Speaker 2: be the voice of Mount on that football, that'd be
Speaker 2: a good endgame for you. But I have a little
Speaker 2: bit of a layered question because you are a utility
Speaker 2: guy for ESPN, and you know, it's important to have
Speaker 2: a comprehensive, complete skill set while you're working your way
Speaker 2: up to whatever that endgame looks like for you. I
Speaker 2: wonder if you have that, you know, that vision in
Speaker 2: your mind about what the endgame would be, and what's
Speaker 2: it like to kind of be the guy that ESPN
Speaker 2: relies on for a number of different job opportunities.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy with where I'm at now. That's cool.
Speaker 5: ESPN has been great to me, and for example, they
Speaker 5: let me work for the PAC twelve network. Yes, I
Speaker 5: was fully invested in the PAC twelve as you know,
Speaker 5: and I'm born and raised, grew up on it, and
Speaker 5: it was gut wrenching when everything came crashing to a
Speaker 5: halt like it did. But ESPN has been fabulous to
Speaker 5: me and my family, and I love that they let
Speaker 5: me do all these different sports and they give me
Speaker 5: that freedom, that flexibility. I don't know if there's like
Speaker 5: a Okay, I have to have this job or that game,
Speaker 5: or this is my end game. Right now, you know
Speaker 5: what I do it. I was doing Major League baseball
Speaker 5: in my Miami. I worked for the Marlins for three years,
Speaker 5: and my wife and I did not want to raise
Speaker 5: our kids there. We were determined to come back out west.
Speaker 5: And I grew up and born and raised in the
Speaker 5: Bay Area. My wife's from Santa Barbara, but we wanted
Speaker 5: to raise the kids somewhere out west, and coming back
Speaker 5: home was a natural fit. I was still doing radio
Speaker 5: in the Bay Areas, doing cow games on the radio.
Speaker 5: Even when I was doing baseball in Miami, I was
Speaker 5: by coastal, Oh, Okay, And so that made it tricky,
Speaker 5: especially come spring training and heading into March Madness.
Speaker 1: Sure, but I.
Speaker 5: If some opportunity presented itself, yeah, I'd take a look
Speaker 5: at it. But right now I'm thrilled where I'm at.
Speaker 5: I just sent my oldest off to college. She's a
Speaker 5: freshman at TCU. Very nice and my son has just
Speaker 5: started his sophomore year of high school. So we're in
Speaker 5: Trench in the Bay Area for now. Doesn't mean I'll
Speaker 5: be there forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what if like a team came calling, Like is
Speaker 2: that the type of dream gig?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Baseball, basketball, football? I guess it depends on the team,
Speaker 2: depends on the market.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And look, I've had opportunities, and I've looked at him,
Speaker 5: and I've talked with teams, and some have been pretty
Speaker 5: close to happening.
Speaker 1: But it's.
Speaker 5: It's tough with the family because look, it was just
Speaker 5: me Spence or just my wife.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 5: The kids are in Trench and that's all they know,
Speaker 5: and to rock their world and turn it upside down
Speaker 5: would be very difficult for me to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was eleven when we moved back east when my
Speaker 2: father took the job in New York with MSG, And
Speaker 2: it was a hard thing, man like when when you're
Speaker 2: uprooted from your friends, and certainly there's a little bit
Speaker 2: of a culture shock when you go from Salt Lake
Speaker 2: City to New York, you know, and then back again too.
Speaker 2: And my family's still back east. But I want to
Speaker 2: ask you about Bill Walton. You're wearing a shirt that
Speaker 2: says Walton on it, and you know one of the
Speaker 2: You know, met Bill several times over the years. But
Speaker 2: when my father retired from Madison Square Garden about a
Speaker 2: week after, I was home visiting from colleg and he
Speaker 2: called me and said, Spence, come down in my office
Speaker 2: listening to this. So Bill Walton had left him like
Speaker 2: a five minute voicemail and it was just like I'm
Speaker 2: doing the chef's kiss thing. It was quintessential Bill Walton
Speaker 2: for five minutes, non sequiturs, from the Knicks to the
Speaker 2: beauty of the Wasatch Mountains where our family's from. Like
Speaker 2: and it I mean I very much from a distance.
Speaker 2: I didn't know him like you did. Really loved him
Speaker 2: in a way that you know if you're a sports
Speaker 2: fan and appreciate the way he approached the craft. I
Speaker 2: know he wasn't for everybody, but that's all right. You know,
Speaker 2: our job, it's not unlike a band, it's not unlike
Speaker 2: Counting Crows.
Speaker 1: Discretion is important.
Speaker 2: Sometimes the albums are great, sometimes the songs don't land whatever.
Speaker 1: Everybody has their own preference.
Speaker 2: But what was it like working with him side by
Speaker 2: side and then getting to know the man outside of
Speaker 2: just the broadcaster.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. Bill was the greatest, he really was.
Speaker 5: And I think of Bill every day, and you know,
Speaker 5: I honor him wearing the shirt pretty often. It became
Speaker 5: a staple of my wardrobe.
Speaker 1: But just his.
Speaker 5: Impact on me, like we became friends. And I remember
Speaker 5: the first game we did together, and it was we
Speaker 5: were doing an n game at the University of San
Speaker 5: Francisco years ago and it was LSU at USF. First off,
Speaker 5: Bill was ecstatic to be there because Bill Russell was
Speaker 5: his hero and that's where Bill Russell went to college,
Speaker 5: won the national championships with the Dons back in the fifties,
Speaker 5: and so he was super excited. He's always extremely excited
Speaker 5: to be anywhere he's at, that's the best thing about him.
Speaker 5: But he was really really pumped up to be on
Speaker 5: the hilltop at USF the Bill Russell statue and all that.
Speaker 5: But this was the first game that I was working
Speaker 5: with him, so it was a little nervous. And I
Speaker 5: knew about Bill obviously, and as custom with Bill, we
Speaker 5: don't talk during the day. He tries to keep it
Speaker 5: fresh and organic where we go on the air. He
Speaker 5: did introduce himself to me at shoot around. I'd met
Speaker 5: Bill before, but you know, Bill plays the joke what's
Speaker 5: your name again?
Speaker 1: I mean that was synonymous with Bill.
Speaker 5: And so we're about thirty seconds away from going on
Speaker 5: air and doing our open for the game, and Bill
Speaker 5: looks at me, takes out his gum and he says,
Speaker 5: what's your name again? I go Roxy, He goes roxy,
Speaker 5: I'll try not to get you fired. And then literally
Speaker 5: we're on the air, and that was the start of
Speaker 5: a friendship. We went to dinner that night, crazy enough,
Speaker 5: and they hate Ashbury right down the street from the
Speaker 5: University of San Francisco, which Bill probably spent many nights
Speaker 5: with the dead in that area. And it was the
Speaker 5: start of a great friendship and still his day. I
Speaker 5: text his wife Laurie all the time, text one of
Speaker 5: his son, Luke, because we work in kind of the
Speaker 5: same circles. He's in the NBA. But yeah, now a
Speaker 5: day goes by, I don't think of Bill.
Speaker 1: Is Luke still coaching? You got he's an assistance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Before my father actually took the job of the Jazz
Speaker 2: when I was a pup. We lived in Boston, he
Speaker 2: was with Bain And so my first NBA experiences were
Speaker 2: the Celtics of the eighties and Bill was the sixth
Speaker 2: man on a Celtic team that won the championship. So
Speaker 2: I'm not old enough to remember Bill Walton like prime
Speaker 2: Bill Walton with the Blazers. But if you watch the documentary,
Speaker 2: if you listen to basketball historians, it feels like if
Speaker 2: Bill Walton would have just been able to stay healthy
Speaker 2: and play at that level consistently, we would be talking
Speaker 2: about him like the way we talk about Larry Bird
Speaker 2: or the way we talk about Magic Johnson, like he
Speaker 2: truly had a career arc that if he would have
Speaker 2: continued and not had the myriad of injuries they plagued
Speaker 2: him quite frankly his entire life, he could have potentially
Speaker 2: been one of the greatest basketball players of all time?
Speaker 5: Is that fair to say? Oh, it's fair to say.
Speaker 5: I mean, he was the MVP in What's seventy eight
Speaker 5: and I'm like you, I didn't. I'm not old enough
Speaker 5: to appreciate him from his prime. And I remember that
Speaker 5: the broken down Bill that did come off the bench.
Speaker 5: It was a key part of that Celtics championship team
Speaker 5: in eighty six for sure, But the stories that I hear,
Speaker 5: for example, from my uncle that did. He's a retired
Speaker 5: doctor now, but he was doing his residency at UCLA
Speaker 5: when Bill was playing there, so he got in. He
Speaker 5: is a huge basketball fan. He went to every game
Speaker 5: the Bruins played and got to see Bill play every
Speaker 5: UCLA game of his career. And just how well Bill
Speaker 5: changed the poet really the game of basketball from the
Speaker 5: center position because with his outlet passes, his ability to
Speaker 5: see the floor, it was unheard of for somebody at
Speaker 5: that stage that big to be able to do what
Speaker 5: he did. Like people marvel at what Jokicic does now,
Speaker 5: well Bill was doing that forty plus years ago and
Speaker 5: probably even better than Jokic is doing even though Jokic
Speaker 5: is an unbelievable player. But Bill went twenty one for
Speaker 5: twenty two from the floor in a Final four game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, incredible.
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you bring bring up the Yokic
Speaker 2: thing because when Jokic kind of burst on the scene.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately for our show, Jeff Van Gundy is back coaching
Speaker 2: in the NBA, so I can't get him on. But
Speaker 2: when he was with you know, ESPN and NBC. I
Speaker 2: had him on almost every week, and Jeff was the
Speaker 2: first one when I asked him, like, does Yolkicic remind
Speaker 2: you of anybody? Said yeah, Bill Walton. Bill Walton was
Speaker 2: like the original of what Jokic is doing. Now let
Speaker 2: me so we don't have a ton of time. I
Speaker 2: want to make sure and it's good you're going out
Speaker 2: there early. Let me just say this to you, Sana. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's good you're taking maneuver parking and traffic out
Speaker 2: there can get wild, so I want to make sure
Speaker 2: I let.
Speaker 1: You go on time. So let's move over here.
Speaker 2: Talking about this yesterday the current state of college football.
Speaker 2: So Brian Rolap, who's the new commissioner or CEO on
Speaker 2: the PGA Tour, Friend of the show. We've had Brian
Speaker 2: on spend twenty two years in the NFL. For the
Speaker 2: first time, he spoke yesterday about his vision for the
Speaker 2: future of the p and I thought it was just dynamite.
Speaker 1: He talked about innovation. I think he said innovation.
Speaker 2: Five or six times, and I juxtaposed that to change
Speaker 2: for change sake, which is what I feel like college
Speaker 2: football continues to do. So the Big Ten floats out
Speaker 2: this twenty eighteen playoff model, and you're like, dude, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm a grown up. I understand that means more revenue,
Speaker 2: but there's a limit. You could have one hundred teams
Speaker 2: in the playoffs too, and you would make more money.
Speaker 1: But at some point, if you do away with what I.
Speaker 2: Perceive makes college football special, and that is the prescient
Speaker 2: nature of every weekend, the urgent nature of every game,
Speaker 2: certainly conference games. You kill conference championship games, you do
Speaker 2: away with the urgency of every single weekend. I do
Speaker 2: think you're in danger of diluting your product a little bit.
Speaker 2: And I guess the bottom line is there's nobody in charge.
Speaker 2: So the Big ten knows that they can float out
Speaker 2: whatever idea they want. So can the SEC and say, look,
Speaker 2: we're the Big ten. You're gonna have to deal with
Speaker 2: our ideas. Are you concerned at all about where we
Speaker 2: find ourselves now or in the future of college football?
Speaker 2: Or is it simply saturdays in the fall are always
Speaker 2: going to feel the way they do to people that
Speaker 2: love to consume the product.
Speaker 5: I think for some, but that could be a small
Speaker 5: percentage spence of the traditionalist in college football. I'm with you,
Speaker 5: worried about it. It's going to get diluted if you
Speaker 5: do expand that greatly. Just the way college athletics is going.
Speaker 5: I've been worried for a while. And now that they're
Speaker 5: trying to get a hold of the nil model and
Speaker 5: make it a revenue share. It's all fine and dandy
Speaker 5: if you take it for what it is, but there's
Speaker 5: still going to be people trying to circumvent it. And
Speaker 5: are we going to go back to the old days
Speaker 5: where you're getting paid under the table, And because now
Speaker 5: there's this clearinghouse, if you have an NIL deal, you
Speaker 5: bring it to them and they have to approve it
Speaker 5: for anything over six hundred dollars. There is so much
Speaker 5: in the game of college athletics that's concerning and with
Speaker 5: this revenue share model, for.
Speaker 1: Example, well, what's going to happen to the Olympic sports? Right?
Speaker 5: Okay, football and basketball, they're going to be fine, But
Speaker 5: what happens to baseball, to volleyball, to soccer and all
Speaker 5: these great athletes that could be losing opportunities. And that's
Speaker 5: something that's troubling to me, is the potential for all
Speaker 5: these sports to be pushed away and the revenue share model. Look,
Speaker 5: I firmly believe the student athletes should be paid. I
Speaker 5: do because they're out there drawn eyeballs and these large
Speaker 5: television contracts or they're a big part of why the
Speaker 5: Big ten and the SEC and the ACC are making
Speaker 5: the Big twelve are making all this money. But at
Speaker 5: some point I'm worried for the Olympic sports that things
Speaker 5: could be pushed aside and we could be looking at
Speaker 5: a real cut down model of what college athletics is.
Speaker 2: Mark Harlin on Saturday of last week addressed some Utah
Speaker 2: alumni and Utah boosters. Utah athletics reported like an eighteen
Speaker 2: million dollar loss last year. Final two years in the
Speaker 2: Pac twelve they made little bit of cash couple mill
Speaker 2: two or three, And Mark talked about the reserve they have.
Speaker 2: The president of the university right now is a brilliant businessman.
Speaker 2: His name is Taylor Randall. He's the dean of the
Speaker 2: business school before taking over as president. So I think
Speaker 2: the athletic department's in a fine spot. But I do
Speaker 2: believe there's this narrative that every school is like printing money,
Speaker 2: and you know, I think Utah, as they move forward
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve will you know, inch closer and closer.
Speaker 1: To maybe being in the red.
Speaker 2: But did I read that Cal is considering doing something
Speaker 2: drastic with their football program?
Speaker 5: Okay, no, no, no, that was somebody just threw it out
Speaker 5: there to be a troll it. It was an Oregon
Speaker 5: State fan that did that. Any problem with Twitter, it
Speaker 5: took off. There is Ron Rivera is now the general
Speaker 5: manager for Cal football. He reports directly to the chancellor.
Speaker 5: He circumvents the ad they are firmly committed to football,
Speaker 5: that they're determined to be successful and that's why they
Speaker 5: brought in wrong.
Speaker 2: Good good good to hear and you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: interesting to hear Mark talk about, you know, the plans
Speaker 2: with the rev share. Every school now has twenty point
Speaker 2: five mil. That doesn't include nil. But the other element
Speaker 2: that I and I've always said this, college football to
Speaker 2: me has always been the hardest sport to predict, no
Speaker 2: matter what. Now it's even more so because most every
Speaker 2: school has at least thirty to forty new players. Bronco
Speaker 2: Menanol has eighty new players in Logan for Utah State.
Speaker 2: It just makes it impossible to kind of predict the
Speaker 2: landscape of what college football is going to look like
Speaker 2: because of the changeover. When it comes to the Big Twelve,
Speaker 2: it feels like once again, seven or eight teams could
Speaker 2: be in the mix. You know Utah football, you know
Speaker 2: the program. Well, what gives you faith that year two
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve will look a little bit better
Speaker 2: than your one did?
Speaker 1: For the youths.
Speaker 5: Kyle Whittingham is number one, Yeah, just because of the
Speaker 5: culture he's established, and I know it's been a couple
Speaker 5: of rough years, but the consistency throughout his career gives
Speaker 5: me optimism that Utah can push and make a run
Speaker 5: in the Big Twelve. Look, nobody thought Arizona State was
Speaker 5: going to do what it did last year, picked last
Speaker 5: and they won it, and we're in the College Football Playoff. Now,
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, they're in the crosshairs.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 5: Everybody is trying circling Arizona State on their schedule because
Speaker 5: of what they did last year and what Kenny Dillingham
Speaker 5: has done is phenomenal. But you know, I think Kyle's
Speaker 5: happy if you talk and just kind of lay in
Speaker 5: the weeds and people will look other places and he
Speaker 5: can just go about his business. But when they have
Speaker 5: the physicality upfront, which they do on both sides of
Speaker 5: the ball. That's where it's established for a Kyle Whittingham team.
Speaker 5: So for me, in my perspective, the Cam Rising soap
Speaker 5: opera's gone now right for years was hovering over the program.
Speaker 5: Is he going to play? Is he not going to play?
Speaker 5: What's going on with Cam? You've moved on from that,
Speaker 5: which I think makes it easier for everybody to operate
Speaker 5: up up the hill.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, for sure, there's no ambiguity about who's under center.
Speaker 2: It's Devin dan Pierre, who's in New Mexico transfer and
Speaker 2: they bring his offensive coordinator, Jason Beck, a running back
Speaker 2: and a wide receiver that played in New Mexico a
Speaker 2: year ago. I do think there's a little trepidation about
Speaker 2: taking this step up in competition from the Mountain West
Speaker 2: to the Big twelve. But we saw Cam Wore do
Speaker 2: it right and we've seen other players do it as well.
Speaker 2: What experience, if at all, do you have with the
Speaker 2: BYU Utah rivalry. I've done the basketball game on you've
Speaker 2: done the basketball game on TV a few times.
Speaker 5: One of my funnier moments we were doing the game
Speaker 5: down at the Marriott Center and Bill and I did
Speaker 5: the game. It was back in December. This was years
Speaker 5: ago when BYU was still in the WCC, and of
Speaker 5: course the youths were in the PAC twelve and Larry
Speaker 5: Stoviac was coaching Utah and I don't even think I
Speaker 5: think it was still Dave Rose was coaching BYU at
Speaker 5: that time, and so I couldn't get into town. First off,
Speaker 5: the night before to have dinner with Bill, So I
Speaker 5: set him up to have dinner with Tom Holmo b
Speaker 5: a d at b YA. And first off, Tom grew
Speaker 5: up in La a huge UCLA fan and a huge
Speaker 5: Bill Walton fan, So this was like geeked out night
Speaker 5: for Tom. He was so excited to have dinner with Bill.
Speaker 5: I was doing a game the night before. I couldn't
Speaker 5: pick up my phone. But Tom calls and leaves me
Speaker 5: a voicemail and he says, I understand it. Now I
Speaker 5: get it because Bill at dinner was peppering Tom with
Speaker 5: question after question after question about the Provost City Library,
Speaker 5: the faculty at BYU, the campus, everything he wanted to know.
Speaker 5: And I did tell Tom, be careful what you tell Bill,
Speaker 5: because it's a chance no matter what you say, we'll
Speaker 5: get on the air, and the next night, of course,
Speaker 5: he just rattles off all these answers that Tom gave
Speaker 5: him and all the information he's able to dig up.
Speaker 5: But we were doing it on camera and some BYU
Speaker 5: student walked over with like a solo red cup and
Speaker 5: handed it to Bill and he drank it. And I'm like, Bill,
Speaker 5: did you know that guy? He goes, no, And you
Speaker 5: took a drink from somebody in a cup? He goes, yeah,
Speaker 5: it was thirsty to look good. I go, well, if
Speaker 5: you're gonna do it a place anywhere in this country,
Speaker 5: BYU is probably your safest place to do it.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, was it milk?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 1: Because it was some punch, That's all. I'll say.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough, all right, before I let you
Speaker 2: get out of here and it gets the show. We
Speaker 2: are a hockey city now, yeah, And you were one
Speaker 2: of the first guests that I thought of Devon as
Speaker 2: soon as the announcement came down.
Speaker 1: It's no longer the Utah Hockey Club. It is the
Speaker 1: Utah Mammoth.
Speaker 2: They were right in the mix for a wild card
Speaker 2: until the final couple of weeks. They've made a couple
Speaker 2: of good acquisitions in the offseason. What should we expect
Speaker 2: is it? Do you think playoffs are reasonable for our
Speaker 2: hockey team this year?
Speaker 5: They've got to stay healthy this year, yep, Spence, especially
Speaker 5: on the blue line. The injuries that they dealt with,
Speaker 5: whether it was Jersey last year, they were beaten up
Speaker 5: on the blue line, missing Marino for as long as
Speaker 5: they did, and it was it made it tough for them.
Speaker 5: And then with Conning or minn atol lineup with his
Speaker 5: stuff going on off the ice. But I do believe
Speaker 5: that their talent is there. Certainly, Keller made a huge
Speaker 5: jump last year and has turned into one of the
Speaker 5: elite players. I think you make a tray with Buffalo
Speaker 5: to get a twenty five goal scorer, which just don't
Speaker 5: grow on trees. Okay, you gave up kessel Ring, which
Speaker 5: is a I'd like. There's a nice piece to have, sure,
Speaker 5: But the one thing that worries me for them, Do
Speaker 5: I think they have the talent to do it?
Speaker 1: Yes? I do.
Speaker 5: The division is so tough when you look at Colorado
Speaker 5: in Dallas and those two teams you start there with
Speaker 5: Winnipeg and then Saint Louis made that push last year.
Speaker 5: Central Division is hard, and unfortunately, I think they're in
Speaker 5: the toughest division. I'm not saying they can't do it
Speaker 5: and get to a wild card to finish in the
Speaker 5: top three, but they need things to go right, and
Speaker 5: they can't have the barrage of injuries they had a
Speaker 5: year ago.
Speaker 2: Well said, all right, favorite Counting Crows opener and closer.
Speaker 2: What do you want to see him do tonight?
Speaker 5: Well, I kind of know you. No, no, I don't,
Speaker 5: because they make it up like it's not all of
Speaker 5: a sudden, this same generic set list every.
Speaker 1: Night, but you'll know the set list prior to the show.
Speaker 5: Roxy, jeez, I got a time my bathroom breaks properly
Speaker 5: and if I have to.
Speaker 1: Go fair enough. So can I ask you what they're
Speaker 1: opening with tonight? I don't know.
Speaker 5: I really don't know what they're opening with. It seems
Speaker 5: on this tour they have been opening with the new song,
Speaker 5: Oh Tulsa Spaceman Tulsa. Okay, that's a possibility. I'm not
Speaker 5: saying that's gonna happen, but it's funny. I had him
Speaker 5: as he's evolved over the years, realized there's about five
Speaker 5: songs I have to play every night.
Speaker 1: For sure, and I would say more than that to
Speaker 1: be honest.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's also trying to push the new album. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but mister Jones, Rain King Long December and King hanging
Speaker 5: around round here. Those are songs omaha. I mean, those
Speaker 5: are songs that are probably gonna be I'm guessing. I
Speaker 5: don't know, but they could be in the set list today.
Speaker 2: All right, man, Well we'll set you loose. Thanks so
Speaker 2: much for brother enjoy the show. Okay, all right, special
Speaker 2: thanks to Roxie Bernstein from ESPN for rolling in live
Speaker 2: in studio today prior to his trip out to You
Speaker 2: Sanna to see his buddy Adam Dirts and count and Crows.
Speaker 2: We're gonna bring in Kenna Scott's former Utah Wide receiver
Speaker 2: the newest member of RSL DeAndre Yedlin Sports Court.
Speaker 1: Later on as well.
Speaker 2: But the eyes of the world of professional golf on
Speaker 2: the PGA Tour are on East Lake in Atlanta, where
Speaker 2: Russell Henley is now your leader at eight under par
Speaker 2: A lot of players going low. Always fun to catch
Speaker 2: up with our next guest from the Golf Channel, Rex
Speaker 2: Hoggard on a Thursday afternoon, Rex, how are you sir?
Speaker 3: Amy?
Speaker 7: Thursday after and in Atlanta.
Speaker 8: I'm great.
Speaker 6: How are you.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I really appreciate the time.
Speaker 2: So tell me about the conditions in the track and
Speaker 2: what's allowing these players to go as low as they've
Speaker 2: been going so far.
Speaker 7: Hey, it's funny. We were told to expect in The
Speaker 7: PGA Tour announced this a few weeks ago that they
Speaker 7: wanted to make this a more difficult test. They wanted
Speaker 7: to add a little bit more risk reward. It was
Speaker 7: something that the fans told them that they wanted to
Speaker 7: see at the Tour Championship. So the golf course had
Speaker 7: been sort of set up a little bit different this year.
Speaker 7: I think the expectation was to maybe create a little
Speaker 7: bit more of a challenge. That's certainly not the case,
Speaker 7: as you pointed out seven under his leading. I think
Speaker 7: at least half the.
Speaker 1: Field is under par.
Speaker 7: And it has everything to do with if you've ever
Speaker 7: been in the South in the summertime, pretty much rains
Speaker 7: every single night. So it's just soft. And I don't
Speaker 7: care what you do to a golf course. If players
Speaker 7: have irons in their hands from the fairway and the
Speaker 7: greens are soft, they're going to be aggressive. And that's
Speaker 7: what we're seeing today.
Speaker 1: No doubt.
Speaker 2: So Russell Henley is now at eight under, he's your leader,
Speaker 2: he's through seventeen. But we got Colin Morikala, Patrick Candley
Speaker 2: and Justin Thomas in the clubhouse at six hundred par
Speaker 2: after carding sixty fours.
Speaker 1: What does the weekend ahead hold?
Speaker 2: Are we going to see conditions change or do you
Speaker 2: think we're going to continue to see low scores.
Speaker 7: I think it's gonna be low scores. I think actually
Speaker 7: they moved up two times for tomorrow because there's some
Speaker 7: anticipated storms in the afternoon. There's storms around the area
Speaker 7: right now. Again it's sort of just rent and repeat
Speaker 7: in the south, so I don't think the golf course
Speaker 7: will have an opportunity to dry out. But I would
Speaker 7: look more towards just the conversation about what has changed
Speaker 7: about this event this year, where we know in previous
Speaker 7: years they've tried to do different formats, and in recent
Speaker 7: years it's been something called starting shows, which is simply
Speaker 7: gay a lead to whoever the points leader was coming
Speaker 7: into this week, and then incrementally they work their way
Speaker 7: down on the points list until you got to number thirty.
Speaker 7: But they got rid of that this year. I think
Speaker 7: the Tour finally realized it's kind of silly, kind of confusing.
Speaker 7: Even Scotty Scheffler said it, he didn't quite understand why
Speaker 7: they were doing it. So I think the difference this
Speaker 7: year will be that the winner and all thirty players
Speaker 7: started it. Even part the winner went not only when
Speaker 7: the Tour Championship but the FedEx Cup, and we haven't
Speaker 7: really had that in at least a decade, so that's
Speaker 7: kind of compelling.
Speaker 1: Do you like the change?
Speaker 2: I mean, I always found it hokey, and I'm certainly
Speaker 2: no expert like you are, but this feels any reference
Speaker 2: Scotty's comments about the new format, which he prefers. Does
Speaker 2: it feel like it's a consensus that most people do
Speaker 2: appreciate and like this new format now, Rex, I think.
Speaker 7: There's simplicity of this. The players appreciate, certainly the fans
Speaker 7: I appreciate. You're not trying to figure out the mass
Speaker 7: on Thursday afternoon when Scotty's teeing off at ten under par.
Speaker 7: That doesn't make sense to a lot of golf fans.
Speaker 7: I will say it feels like a transition, Yere. I
Speaker 7: think the Tour is going to continue to tinker with
Speaker 7: this format. The new CEO, Brian Rollop, spoke yesterday to
Speaker 7: the media, and I think the tour is going to
Speaker 7: tinker with a lot of things. I would expect everything
Speaker 7: with the tour right now to be in transition and
Speaker 7: to be under the microscope. Certainly the Tour Championship format
Speaker 7: would be one of them. And there's been tons of
Speaker 7: format suggestions. Match play and come up with some sort
Speaker 7: of round robin situation here at East Like, I don't
Speaker 7: think that's the landing spot, but I think this year
Speaker 7: it works, but I wouldn't expect it to be the future.
Speaker 2: I do want to ask you about Brian's comments, and
Speaker 2: I've had Brian on the show. We actually have family
Speaker 2: friends and he's from the same footprints that I'm from,
Speaker 2: and so you know, twenty two years with the NFL,
Speaker 2: and I think it's a great hire.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be dynamite.
Speaker 2: But before we get there, it's interesting asking who you
Speaker 2: like now that we actually have some scores. But when
Speaker 2: it comes to this tournament at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: Scotty Scheffler has the shortest odds to win it since
Speaker 2: Tiger in two thousand and nine. Who do you think
Speaker 2: sold in the trophy rex at the end well.
Speaker 7: And Scotty has played well, he's won here before. But
Speaker 7: he pointed out Calin more Kywa, what have won here
Speaker 7: last year? I had it not been for starting strokes,
Speaker 7: and calinm Moore Kya is right at the top of
Speaker 7: the leaderboard. So I would actually lean towards one of
Speaker 7: those players. Certainly Justin Thomas has played well here in
Speaker 7: the past. They both do the one thing you have
Speaker 7: to do, and let's drive the ball well around this
Speaker 7: golf course because you can score if you're in the fairway,
Speaker 7: but from the rough it can be difficult. But Scotty
Speaker 7: is gonna Scotti eventually. I mean we saw it last week.
Speaker 7: We've seen it pretty much all year long, like there
Speaker 7: is just a gear that he find. So I'm compelled
Speaker 7: by the idea that Scotty is going to do what
Speaker 7: he normally does. And yet you've got all these other
Speaker 7: stars around him.
Speaker 2: All right, When when are we allow to talk about
Speaker 2: Scotti Scheffer in the same sentence as Tiger Because when
Speaker 2: I've done that before my golf guests usually they scold
Speaker 2: me greatly. And it's interesting RECs Like whenever a stat
Speaker 2: pops up, Like, for instance, I think I read that
Speaker 2: Scotty just became the first player since Tiger to have
Speaker 2: back to back years where he won five times, and
Speaker 2: Tiger did that like seven times. So I'm well aware
Speaker 2: of how audacious those comparisons are. But when are we
Speaker 2: allowed to talk about it in that space?
Speaker 7: You mean we weren't allowed to talk about it until
Speaker 7: now that that's not I even get that memo thank
Speaker 7: you talking about it? Thank you. Yeah. I just think
Speaker 7: I hate comparisons to Tiger Woods because I've done it
Speaker 7: pretty much my entire career, and it's always unfair to
Speaker 7: the player you're comparing and unfair to Tiger Woods. Like
Speaker 7: the things he did were historic, and I still think
Speaker 7: Scotty clearly still has some time. I mean, Tiger did
Speaker 7: it for the better part of two decades. You just
Speaker 7: pointed out the interesting stats that I sort of keyed
Speaker 7: in on. Twice in Tiger's career, he won at least
Speaker 7: five times for four consecutive years. Scotty hasn't done that
Speaker 7: one thing yet, and so you're kind of, you know,
Speaker 7: you're looking at it through a very narrow lens when
Speaker 7: it comes to it. But everything else he does if
Speaker 7: you look at it statistically, just from a strokes gained standpoint,
Speaker 7: the only comparison is Tiger Woods. When you look at
Speaker 7: what he's been able to do at the major championships,
Speaker 7: Tiger is the only comparison, and they do it in
Speaker 7: a vastly different way. I think last week was interesting
Speaker 7: on this case because outside of the chip in on seventeen,
Speaker 7: and I'm talking about last week at the BMW Championship
Speaker 7: for Scotty Scheffler, he showed a little bit of a
Speaker 7: motion there, but normally he's kind of a flatliner. So
Speaker 7: he is Tiger Woods to a certain degree, at least statistically,
Speaker 7: just without the flare. He's just not going to do
Speaker 7: the dramatics. But I think at this point what he's accomplished,
Speaker 7: those comparisons are perfectly fair.
Speaker 2: I was watching your coverage last night and Brandal Shambley
Speaker 2: actually anecdotally shared a story.
Speaker 1: I can't remember who he was speaking to.
Speaker 2: I think it was over in Dublin and somebody told
Speaker 2: him he thinks Scotty is actually I can't remember the verb.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say a better player than Tiger,
Speaker 2: but maybe a cleaner player than Tiger or something.
Speaker 1: Like that. I mean, Brandal said that on the broadcast
Speaker 1: last night.
Speaker 7: That might be a recent advice. I don't know about that.
Speaker 7: One can say again, Tiger sustained this over two decades,
Speaker 7: and I mean that's amazing to think about the things
Speaker 7: he accomplished over the course of his career. And even
Speaker 7: Scotty will dismiss this a little bit. He has had
Speaker 7: a magical three and four year run, and the things
Speaker 7: he's been able to accomplish we didn't anticipate because parody
Speaker 7: has become the normal on the PGA tour. But yeah,
Speaker 7: I don't see that. This is just starting to feel
Speaker 7: like Lebron Jordan debate. Like I guess it depends on
Speaker 7: what error you grew up in, but I still say
Speaker 7: that Tiger Woods was better across the board.
Speaker 1: Randall seems like an interesting fellow. What's he like?
Speaker 7: I have nothing but respect for brand I've worked with
Speaker 7: him luckily over the last decade or so, and no
Speaker 7: one works harder. And that's the part that just blew
Speaker 7: me away. It's one thing. He has opinions on everything,
Speaker 7: and he's very good on TV and his knowledge of
Speaker 7: the game is amazing. However, it's the one thing when
Speaker 7: you get in the trailer with him six seven, eight
Speaker 7: hours before the broadcast and he is just grinding over
Speaker 7: notes and stats and historical references. He never goes into
Speaker 7: a take without being educated. He never says anything just
Speaker 7: off the top of his head, just trying to be
Speaker 7: flamboyant or trying to create a headline. That's not what
Speaker 7: he does. He truly believes what he says. Now that
Speaker 7: being said, he says plenty of things that I don't
Speaker 7: agree with, but I know he gets to him in
Speaker 7: a very good way.
Speaker 2: Well said, all right, let's move on the comments, and
Speaker 2: we talked about it on the show yesterday and again
Speaker 2: for golf fans that don't know Brian Rollout, this is
Speaker 2: a dynamite sports executive, a sharp person and a very
Speaker 2: good guy. So for the first time we were able
Speaker 2: to kind of hear from him in you know, kind
Speaker 2: of an official media setting about what he sees as
Speaker 2: it pertains to the future of the sport. And they're
Speaker 2: putting together a committee that will be led by Tiger
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods. I wonder what your thoughts were as you
Speaker 2: digest the comments and when it comes to this the quote,
Speaker 2: the goal is not incremental change quote.
Speaker 1: The goal is significant change. What Rex do you think
Speaker 1: that means?
Speaker 7: He's three weeks on the job. This was his third
Speaker 7: week on the job, and he stood in front of
Speaker 7: everyone and talked about and we're not talking about incremental change.
Speaker 7: We're talking about significant change and what he has proposed,
Speaker 7: and I'm sure what is actually being thought about it.
Speaker 7: It is going to be dramatic. When you look at
Speaker 7: sort of the three pillars that they leaned into, it's
Speaker 7: parody and we already have that. And when it comes
Speaker 7: to the PGA towards simplicity, we do not have that.
Speaker 7: We just had a long conversation about the confusion here
Speaker 7: at the Tour Championship and at scarcity, and I mean,
Speaker 7: you can use another word, but I think scarcity can
Speaker 7: only be interpreted one way. That means less is more
Speaker 7: to a certain degree, the idea that he wants to
Speaker 7: get the best players together and more often on the
Speaker 7: best courses and the best cities at the best time
Speaker 7: of year, and condense this into a window that works
Speaker 7: for everyone. I think even players that I talked to
Speaker 7: who aren't here at East Lake to be fair so
Speaker 7: not top thirty players, even they were intrigued by what
Speaker 7: this seems, where this seems to be headed, even they
Speaker 7: were intrigued again. Three weeks on the job, and I
Speaker 7: talked to over a dozen tour players and all of
Speaker 7: them had not only had conversations with Brian and not hello,
Speaker 7: my name is Brian, conversations. We're talking about hours long
Speaker 7: conversations about the tour and the way they think the
Speaker 7: directions should go. And he listened, he didn't talk, which
Speaker 7: I think is a sign of a very good leader.
Speaker 7: That to me, is the part that should get you assided.
Speaker 7: One player told me, and I agree with us. He's
Speaker 7: going to break some eggs and along the way he
Speaker 7: probably going to make some players and some constituents angry.
Speaker 7: But I think that's how you get the tour in
Speaker 7: the best part position.
Speaker 2: What is fair to say about Jay Monahan as he
Speaker 2: makes his exit from his position with the tour.
Speaker 7: He certainly is happy. A couple of us talked about
Speaker 7: it today when we see him there this week, and
Speaker 7: of course he would be. I mean, the weight off
Speaker 7: his shoulders must be enormous. And I have not want
Speaker 7: to be the apologist for Jay Monahan. However, I will
Speaker 7: point out that during his tenure as commissioner, he dealt
Speaker 7: with a couple of things that were unprecedented, and the pandemic,
Speaker 7: which buy and large everyone says the Tour handled the
Speaker 7: pandemic better than almost any other sports league. He dealt
Speaker 7: with Livedoff, which is, in his words, not mine, the
Speaker 7: irrational threat, a pile of money that didn't expect. I mean,
Speaker 7: you have a backer that has a pile of money
Speaker 7: that doesn't expect, a return that's hard to compete with sometimes.
Speaker 7: And then on top of all that, you lost the
Speaker 7: one player that made everything work, Tiger Woods. I think
Speaker 7: Tiger Woods only played if I did the math correctly
Speaker 7: at one point during Jay Monaghan's tenure, and he's still commissioner,
Speaker 7: to be fair, but since he took over as commissioner,
Speaker 7: Tiger Woods hasn't even played thirty regular PGA Tour events,
Speaker 7: and so you add all those things together. He got
Speaker 7: dealta tough, and I think buying lawnch he did the
Speaker 7: best he could. Some people are going to disagree with
Speaker 7: the way he handled live I certainly have my criticisms,
Speaker 7: but you certainly look at the job and I don't
Speaker 7: know that any commissioner in any sport has ever faced
Speaker 7: what he.
Speaker 2: Faced, So, Rex, I have a confession and I'm going
Speaker 2: to ask for your forgiveness. Prior to my brother and
Speaker 2: sister in law reside in Carmel, Indiana, and I went
Speaker 2: to visit them a week ago and as I landed
Speaker 2: and we were driving home from the airport, he said,
Speaker 2: I have a surprise. And Scott O'Neill, who is the
Speaker 2: commissioner of Live Golf, worked with my father at Madison
Speaker 2: Square Garden, so we have a connection there. And he said,
Speaker 2: I got us passes to go to the Live Golf
Speaker 2: event in Indianapolis. Now I am a tour guy, so
Speaker 2: I need your forgiveness. However, I could not be struck
Speaker 2: by sitting there on eighteen on what they call ten
Speaker 2: fifty four and watching Bryson and watching John Rahm and
Speaker 2: watching Brooks. I mean, they do have a lot of really,
Speaker 2: really good players, obviously, And I thought Brian's response to
Speaker 2: the question, but he said, look, if you're gonna ask
Speaker 2: a live question, just asked me a live question. But
Speaker 2: Brian did reference that he is not engaged with the
Speaker 2: Public Investment Fund or anybody from Live Golf, And look,
Speaker 2: I know you're probably tired of talking about it. You're
Speaker 2: probably tired of the question. But if the goal is
Speaker 2: to reunite the best players in the world, at some
Speaker 2: point you're going to have to engage with live. What's
Speaker 2: your understanding of where we stand right now with the
Speaker 2: relationship or lack thereof, between the PGA Tour and Live Golf.
Speaker 7: I think Brian sent a clear message during his press
Speaker 7: conference that he didn't want to address live because he
Speaker 7: knew that was going to overshadow what he was trying
Speaker 7: to get across, and that's this new committee with everything
Speaker 7: he's trying to do. I also think he wanted to
Speaker 7: show some teeth and he certainly did that. Whether people
Speaker 7: agree with and Ron, I think you have to show
Speaker 7: strength in a situation like that. To be fair, I
Speaker 7: have gone through numerous live golf events, so there's absolutely
Speaker 7: no reason at all. I mean actually working gearalists, but
Speaker 7: there's no reason at all to apologize. As a matter
Speaker 7: of fact, the one last year at the rally went
Speaker 7: to was amazing. The crowds were incredible, the scene was cool.
Speaker 7: As you pointed out, they have incredible players. If you
Speaker 7: were a top ten player in the world when you
Speaker 7: join live golf, still a top ten player, whether or
Speaker 7: not if the world Renton agrees with that or not.
Speaker 7: But I see where you're going and I think eventually,
Speaker 7: I don't know how we get there, but you're right,
Speaker 7: reuniting the game has to be on the back burner
Speaker 7: somewhere for not only Brian Rolapp but Scott O'Neil. And
Speaker 7: to your point, one of the things I was drawn
Speaker 7: to in the first interview I did with Brian was
Speaker 7: at the Travelers Championship back in June. There was no
Speaker 7: line of communication between Jma and Handing Praig Norman. It
Speaker 7: was pretty clear those two were not friends, so there
Speaker 7: was never going to be dialogue between the two sides.
Speaker 7: In this particular case, Scott O'Neill Brian roll Up, they
Speaker 7: went to the same college. I know for a fact
Speaker 7: they have each other's phone numbers and their phones. That
Speaker 7: to me is at least a sign that we can
Speaker 7: get to there some way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and hopefully that happens at some point. Now, one
Speaker 2: more live question. So when the whole thing first burst
Speaker 2: on the scene, there was so much anger, there was
Speaker 2: so much passion, there was so much divisiveness. In retrospect,
Speaker 2: did Live accomplished something that we didn't see coming because
Speaker 2: it's pretty undeniable RECs. So the PGA Tour did make
Speaker 2: some adjustments after realizing, like, yes, this is a real threat.
Speaker 2: We are losing some of our best players. And did
Speaker 2: Phil Nicholson and Greg Norman actually force the PGA Tour
Speaker 2: to adjust like they said they were going to, even
Speaker 2: though nobody believed them at the time.
Speaker 7: Yes, I think that's perfectly fair, especially when it comes
Speaker 7: to Phil Nicholson that his argument all along was we
Speaker 7: should be playing for bigger purses and in big tournaments,
Speaker 7: and we should be focusing on the star players. Now,
Speaker 7: it sounds a little selfish coming from one of those
Speaker 7: guys that falls into that category, But what we've experienced
Speaker 7: over the last three years, and certainly the long conversation
Speaker 7: we just had about Brian Rollot's plan, goes to the
Speaker 7: idea that on a certain level, to some degree, Phil
Speaker 7: was absolutely right. Now the destructive nature of how Livgoff
Speaker 7: entered the landscape, I think that's certainly a conversation we
Speaker 7: can have. But I don't think there's anything that you
Speaker 7: can look at the product like it or not, and
Speaker 7: it's innovative, And that's the one line that We've heard
Speaker 7: roll Ups say over and over again, that's what the
Speaker 7: sport needs.
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting about five miles away from where Tony
Speaker 2: Fenale cut his teeth, and you know, once upon a
Speaker 2: time it felt like Tony was evolving and growing into
Speaker 2: potentially one of the best players in the world. And
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's not that now, but this was
Speaker 2: not a great year for our local player who we
Speaker 2: all pull for on the tour. What do you think
Speaker 2: plagued to Tony the most this year and do you
Speaker 2: think he can bounce back next season.
Speaker 7: I actually was kind of going down the list and
Speaker 7: I was taken that he wasn't here because he's become
Speaker 7: such a staple and the Tour Championship is one of
Speaker 7: those benchmarks that you look at great players and how
Speaker 7: many times did you qualified for the Tour Championship.
Speaker 1: I think this year was a.
Speaker 7: Combination of things. It seems to me he lost something
Speaker 7: on the ball striking front, which, at least off the
Speaker 7: tee is what's going.
Speaker 1: To carry him.
Speaker 7: I mean, he has power that other players, most other
Speaker 7: players can't find, but if you look at it statistically,
Speaker 7: it's really on the greens where he seemed to at
Speaker 7: least lose that edge whatever it is that separated him
Speaker 7: from playing in the first playoff event and in the
Speaker 7: last playoff event being here at East Lake. So it
Speaker 7: seems to me across the board he regressed for some reason,
Speaker 7: and we don't know. There could be a very good
Speaker 7: reason for that. There could have been injury, there could
Speaker 7: have been distractions. There's all kinds of reasons players games
Speaker 7: fall off one season. However, I don't think he's the
Speaker 7: kind of guy that doesn't find a way to rebound.
Speaker 2: All right, Rex, before I say you loose, We also
Speaker 2: have a really cool new thing and I were stayed
Speaker 2: down south in Saint George Black Desert Resort. I've had
Speaker 2: a chance to play it a couple of times. It
Speaker 2: is awesome, And for the second straight year, the PGA
Speaker 2: Tour during their Fall Fall Tour portion of the calendar
Speaker 2: will stop at Black Desert for the Bank of Utah Championship.
Speaker 2: I don't want to diminish the field a year ago,
Speaker 2: but of course the best golfers in the world don't
Speaker 2: need the points, but Tony might, maybe Jordan Speth. I
Speaker 2: don't know any thoughts on the potential field we could
Speaker 2: see out here for the Black Desert Championship.
Speaker 7: You look at the guys who are scrambling outside the
Speaker 7: top seventy of those who didn't qualify for the playoffs,
Speaker 7: so those who are right there on the edge. I
Speaker 7: think the entire fall could be benefited by this. For
Speaker 7: right or wrong, but yeah, I think you could end up.
Speaker 7: I mean it makes sense for Tony to play there,
Speaker 7: certainly where he is on the points list. Jordan Speed
Speaker 7: is a little bit different animal because there are exemptions
Speaker 7: that he can fall back on from previous victories and
Speaker 7: previous accomplishments. But I think the entire fall, including your event,
Speaker 7: I will say I was speaking with my colleague Todd
Speaker 7: Lewis just now about his fall schedule, and he actually
Speaker 7: added that event, and he's looking forward to it for
Speaker 7: good reason.
Speaker 1: I lied to you.
Speaker 2: I've got to ask you one more question, is the
Speaker 2: expert before I set you loose? Obviously, the Ryder Cup
Speaker 2: is right around the corner. Cannot wait for that. We
Speaker 2: know who the six qualifiers are at Scottie, JJ Spahn,
Speaker 2: Xander Russell, Henley Harris, English, Rice and Deshambeau. Who fills
Speaker 2: out that team? Rex, give me your best guest before
Speaker 2: I set you loose.
Speaker 7: We were just going around and round about this. I
Speaker 7: think you can point to some I think Colin Moore,
Speaker 7: Kawar and JT are clearly say if they're right there
Speaker 7: on the list, that makes sense to add them to
Speaker 7: the team. I think Ben Griffin has done enough this
Speaker 7: season two wins to top ten finishes in a major.
Speaker 7: I think he should be on that team. And then
Speaker 7: you start talking about some combination of Patrick Cantlay, he
Speaker 7: brings so much to the team, Cameron Young breaking through
Speaker 7: and getting that victory. I think he would be a
Speaker 7: good addition, and of course I mean Sam Burns I
Speaker 7: think is another interesting addition. But the one that all
Speaker 7: of us is going to be watching is Keygain no captain,
Speaker 7: no one has ever been in the position. Keith in
Speaker 7: as a captain and as someone that I think the
Speaker 7: other players will tell you he should be on that team.
Speaker 7: By any measurements. He is a top ten I mean
Speaker 7: top twelve American player, but it is going to be
Speaker 7: so difficult for him to try to do both. Wednesday
Speaker 7: can't get here fast enough. That's going to be fascinating.
Speaker 1: Rex.
Speaker 2: Thank you for the time. We'll set you loose. Enjoy
Speaker 2: the rest of the tournament and love to do it again.
Speaker 2: Okay any time. Thanks all right, Rex Hodgard from the
Speaker 2: Golf Channel. Really nice of him to actually join us.
Speaker 2: He's been on TV all night and all day in
Speaker 2: Atlanta at east Lake at the Tour Championship where Russell
Speaker 2: Henley just birdied a team to cart a sixty one
Speaker 2: nine under.
Speaker 1: Russell Henley is your leader in the clubhouse.
Speaker 2: He's three shots clear of Colin Morikawa, Patrick Cantley and
Speaker 2: Justin Thomas in addition to Robert McIntyre. They're all six
Speaker 2: hundred part Tommy Fleetwood is still on the course as
Speaker 2: a s Scheffler.
Speaker 1: They're both at five under par.
Speaker 2: Then at sak Shape Tia Ludwig Obert, Rory mcelroyd four under,
Speaker 2: and then a grip of players at three under. This
Speaker 2: is a massive event with the best golfers in the world,
Speaker 2: so appreciate Rex of time.
Speaker 1: Not sure you went to Golf PGA update.
Speaker 2: You can dominate the tea with the titleist GT medals
Speaker 2: and experience faster speeds with longer, straighter drives that you
Speaker 2: went to golf and you went to golf dot com.
Speaker 2: Pull the phones. We have a Scottischeffler club throw Scotti
Speaker 2: Scheffler with a very uncharacteristic chip. He thinned his chip
Speaker 2: and went over the green, and he threw his golf club.
Speaker 1: Porter, I've never felt so seen and heard.
Speaker 2: If I can use the young people verbage right now,
Speaker 2: I feel seen, I feel heard today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just one of us, Spence, He's just one
Speaker 1: of us. Well, I wouldn't go that far. Brought to
Speaker 1: you by you went to golf indeed, indeed, but he
Speaker 1: did throw his golf club.
Speaker 2: The Tour Championship is at East Lake in Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 2: We're just a few weeks away, quite frankly from the
Speaker 2: Bank of Utah Championship up at the Black Does a
Speaker 2: resort down south in Saint George. Special thanks to Direx
Speaker 2: Hogar to join us live on site in Atlanta. We
Speaker 2: started things off with our buddy Roxy Bernsteam from the PAC.
Speaker 2: Twelve days he joined its live in studio. The newest
Speaker 2: member of Ryal sal Lake is DeAndre Yedlin. He's our
Speaker 2: guest on the other side of the four o'clock hour.
Speaker 1: Then we'll do a little sports court.
Speaker 2: But Utah football nine days away from game day. Our
Speaker 2: next guest, one of the best wide receivers to ever
Speaker 2: play at the You Kenneth Scott on a two excuse
Speaker 2: me a Thursday afternoon, Kenneth, Happy Thursday.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: How are we doing?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: Doing amazing?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 6: Kn't complain? How y'all doing over there?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 1: We're good? We're good. So give us an update, give
Speaker 1: us a life update. What's what's the latest in the
Speaker 1: life of Kenneth Scott?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 6: Man, nothing too much, man, Just out here trying to
Speaker 6: provide as much education and inspiration on whether it's through
Speaker 6: you know, public speaking at middle school, high school right now.
Speaker 6: I'm in higher education teaching as a professor, so you know,
Speaker 6: in one of those mediums you know, all allow us
Speaker 6: to do is just education is break man, That's basically
Speaker 6: it for me.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Where you live in these days? Are you out here?
Speaker 2: Are you back in Cali? Where where do we find you?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 6: I live out here in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: That's the beautiful humidity weather.
Speaker 1: Okay, very nice, very nice? All right, all right, let's
Speaker 1: get into it.
Speaker 2: So we're nine days away from game day for the
Speaker 2: you to somebody who played for coach with played up
Speaker 2: here at the University of Utah. What's going on behind
Speaker 2: the scenes as we're getting ready for UCLA. At this
Speaker 2: point in camp, it's week three of camp. There's only
Speaker 2: one more week and then it's a game. So what's
Speaker 2: going on right now up there on the hill?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: Man, man, this year is extremely focused. I feel like
Speaker 6: this year doesn't have as much I wouldn't say, what
Speaker 6: can I say. I don't feel like there's a much
Speaker 6: expectation too much, you know, because last year, with cameras
Speaker 6: and everything, well, you know, we had a lot of
Speaker 6: expectations of, oh, we got to win the Big twelve.
Speaker 6: I think this year is more so where are they at?
Speaker 6: And then from there we're going to adjust our expectations accordingly.
Speaker 6: I do feel like we're gonna have a good year,
Speaker 6: but have to see what the first game is and
Speaker 6: then I feel like week too week we're going to
Speaker 6: adjust it. But I don't think expectations is too high
Speaker 6: as it was previous years. But I think we're gonna
Speaker 6: have We're gonna be in for a good treat this year.
Speaker 2: So as a player, Kenneth, do you like it when
Speaker 2: the expectations are high?
Speaker 1: Do you want people to expect you to Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, last year, as you reference, most
Speaker 2: all of us, Utah would certainly compete, if not win
Speaker 2: the Big twelve, and it went the other way. Do
Speaker 2: you like when the expectations are high or do you
Speaker 2: prefer when you're kind of flying under the radar a
Speaker 2: little bit?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: For some reason, I love the underdog mentality because it's like,
Speaker 6: all right, well I'm gonna show you, I'm gonna show
Speaker 6: you why I'm this and that. But it also does
Speaker 6: feel good to get the recognition that you know, we
Speaker 6: deserve as a as an organization, as a program, you know,
Speaker 6: throughout the year. So for us, For me personally, I
Speaker 6: loved coming in as the underdog so I can rise
Speaker 6: up through the occasion, rise up to it, or show
Speaker 6: people you know what it is we're made of. But
Speaker 6: I would say the underdog would be the better mentality
Speaker 6: for me.
Speaker 2: What about coach win, What do you think he prefers?
Speaker 2: Does he like, you know, the underdog role? Does he
Speaker 2: like you know, trying to find ways to motivate you
Speaker 2: when nobody thinks you're gonna do anything? Or do you
Speaker 2: think he prefers, you know, people understanding how good his
Speaker 2: team is.
Speaker 6: Man coach with is the ultimate competitor that man competes
Speaker 6: with like compete, compete. So I feel like he loves
Speaker 6: the underdog mentality because he's the same mindset. He's like,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna proved to you, Like, yes,
Speaker 6: I love the recognition, but I want to show you
Speaker 6: rather than you already putting me up there, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: show you why the respect is is earned. So definitely,
Speaker 6: I feel like he loves the underdog mentality and obviously
Speaker 6: respect the process is one of the core things for us,
Speaker 6: so uh and only the only way to get that
Speaker 6: respect is to get it, you know, through earning it,
Speaker 6: and I think that's the best way he likes to
Speaker 6: do it.
Speaker 2: What's a what's a training camp like? Under coach Win?
Speaker 2: What's what you know? I think it's a little bit
Speaker 2: different now than it was back in the day because
Speaker 2: they don't go as hard. Certainly, the past couple of
Speaker 2: years for Utah football has been colored with the context
Speaker 2: of a tremendous amount of injuries and lack of health.
Speaker 2: So they're trying to make sure the frontline guys stay
Speaker 2: healthy but start to finish.
Speaker 1: What's a camp like? Playing for Kyle Whittingham.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like for for us and you know, in our program,
Speaker 6: I think the standard has always been the standard in
Speaker 6: regards to like we want to put each other to
Speaker 6: the limit every single day. But as you mentioned, you know,
Speaker 6: over the years, the physicality of it math tapered off.
Speaker 6: To be honest with you, I know during my career
Speaker 6: you can kind of sense it a little bit with
Speaker 6: you know, player rehabilitation type stuff, just to preserve the
Speaker 6: players going into the season, you know, because we do run,
Speaker 6: you know, run run to newar exhaustion and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: So I feel like over time, I think throughout every program,
Speaker 6: you know, over time the physicality of things have tapered
Speaker 6: down a little bit from previous years, but it's still
Speaker 6: high intensity. I think more focuses on efficiency nowadays, so
Speaker 6: maybe it's more reps, less physicalness, but more reps when
Speaker 6: it comes in terms of that. So I think that's
Speaker 6: what it's coming to nowadays. But you know, we're always
Speaker 6: going to be a physical taking no matter what. But
Speaker 6: I feel like nowadays is all right, We're still going
Speaker 6: to provide that physicalness, but we want to be efficient,
Speaker 6: so I think more reps, you know, and that comes
Speaker 6: with you know, lighter practice left tone on the body,
Speaker 6: but more more reps to it though.
Speaker 2: So of course Cam Rising will always be remembered around
Speaker 2: here as a legend with with the back to back
Speaker 2: pack twelve championships and uh, you know, but ultimately, I
Speaker 2: think the past you know, year or so with Cam
Speaker 2: was tough around here because we just didn't know if
Speaker 2: he was going to be able to stay healthy. And
Speaker 2: now the programs across the landscape of P four are
Speaker 2: mandated to report injuries. We'll see if coach Wit finds
Speaker 2: a way to circumvent that process. But you know, the
Speaker 2: past couple of years, they didn't have to report injuries,
Speaker 2: so nobody around here knew if he was going to play,
Speaker 2: and oftentimes we'd show up at the stadium and wonder
Speaker 2: if he's gonna run out with his shoulder pad. Sometimes
Speaker 2: he did, sometimes he didn't, and sometimes he did and
Speaker 2: still didn't play. I think it just caused a lot
Speaker 2: of consternation around here. Katath, So as as Cameron Rising
Speaker 2: makes his way to the next phase of his life,
Speaker 2: how do you think he should be remembered around here?
Speaker 9: An ultimate an ultimate dog like I don't think people
Speaker 9: understand like at a time where we were like really
Speaker 9: searching for something, like.
Speaker 6: Man, how can we get over this hump? How can
Speaker 6: we get to this destination? Like Cam Rising came in
Speaker 6: and put put us on that pedal suits, Like, oh man,
Speaker 6: these guys are Rose Bowl bounced type type school. This
Speaker 6: team can put up with anybody the Ohio States, the
Speaker 6: teams that have all these five star prospects that every
Speaker 6: single uh, every single position, he kind of showed everybody,
Speaker 6: and not only through his play, but like the cohesion
Speaker 6: and the culture as well, like everybody, not only from
Speaker 6: the field, but the fans, Like he brung everybody together too.
Speaker 6: And I thought that was so cool because the effect
Speaker 6: was not only on the field but off of it.
Speaker 6: And I think he should be remembered highly like yeah,
Speaker 6: last year happened or whatever happened, Like we don't know what,
Speaker 6: we don't know, but I feel like for him, I
Speaker 6: think we should praise him, like for the things that
Speaker 6: he did for us, despite what, you know, what other
Speaker 6: people may say. I think he deserves, uh, you know,
Speaker 6: to get the glory that you know, he ultimately put
Speaker 6: in the work for so uh. I think he did
Speaker 6: an excellent job throughout his career. I wish it would
Speaker 6: have ended better as far as like him going out
Speaker 6: on top and actually finishing his playing days. Injuries suck,
Speaker 6: but I think we should remember him for the greatness
Speaker 6: that he is stilled, not only on the field but
Speaker 6: off the field. Like for the fans, the excitement people wrong,
Speaker 6: the confidence people wrong in the program, just all that
Speaker 6: like it just like for me, you know, being in Texas,
Speaker 6: I'm able to strut around be like, look, man, our
Speaker 6: team was in the roads, for our team. So it's
Speaker 6: just that he brong that to you know, to Utah
Speaker 6: back you know, back to that level. So you know,
Speaker 6: I commend him for everything he did.
Speaker 2: You know, you can relate to what Cameron went through, Kenneth,
Speaker 2: because when you were healthy, you were very productive, but
Speaker 2: you suffered some big time injuries because you had to
Speaker 2: miss a couple of years with injuries, and ultimately, you know,
Speaker 2: that's something that Cameron experienced as well. How challenging is
Speaker 2: it when you're relied upon by this community and this
Speaker 2: fan base to be playing and then you go down
Speaker 2: and you get hurt and there's nothing you can do
Speaker 2: about it. What are the challenges in that space and
Speaker 2: how did you overcome them?
Speaker 6: Man the injuries man. That that was the most challenging
Speaker 6: because you yourself see you as this figure of what
Speaker 6: you could be, but your body is kind of telling
Speaker 6: you differently. You still feel like maybe you can for
Speaker 6: the first couple of rests, but after a while that's
Speaker 6: fat kis seeing it. It's like, dang, maybe I may
Speaker 6: have lost the step. Maybe I you know, maybe I'm
Speaker 6: not back to where I once was. And that's the
Speaker 6: frustrating part because you're always trying to get back to
Speaker 6: your old self, but your old self but trying to
Speaker 6: reach another level, if that makes sense. So the mindset
Speaker 6: piece of it definitely is challenging, especially if you have
Speaker 6: big dreams for yourself, big aspirations, and no matter how
Speaker 6: hard you push, no matter how hard you will through it,
Speaker 6: your body just doesn't hold up. And that could be
Speaker 6: frustrating because it's something out of your control. And so
Speaker 6: I commend him on that because he kept fighting, he
Speaker 6: kept coming back despite all that, and uh, you know,
Speaker 6: sometimes we get the bad luck of the draw. But
Speaker 6: if you have a good people around you, which it
Speaker 6: seems like he did, you know, they kept him high
Speaker 6: during those times, like for instance, like when Travis Wilson
Speaker 6: has to go through his his uh situations with his
Speaker 6: with his brain and stuff like that. You need a
Speaker 6: good support group, whether it's through your teammates, to your
Speaker 6: your your fans, like you know, if they see you
Speaker 6: in the community keep the positive for you like you
Speaker 6: need that or else. You know, it can turn really
Speaker 6: bad for someone where they might say, look, I'm done,
Speaker 6: I'm clocking out, and not in a good way. So
Speaker 6: can do that for you because you're not that person
Speaker 6: who people look up to as much anymore because of
Speaker 6: these injuries that you can't control, and you're not the
Speaker 6: person that you think you could become too. So it's
Speaker 6: always good to have a support system around.
Speaker 2: Did you feel like you had that while you were
Speaker 2: here from I mean, of course you had it up
Speaker 2: at school with the athletic department and the football team,
Speaker 2: but as far as the community and the fans, did
Speaker 2: you feel like you had support when you were going
Speaker 2: through those injuries?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: Man, the support was crazy. I absolutely adored everybody. I
Speaker 6: loved everybody. It got to the point where people were
Speaker 6: bringing me, like making cakes for me and bringing me
Speaker 6: sweets and snacks to just make me feel better. And
Speaker 6: I thought out and that's why I'm forever indebted to
Speaker 6: you know, the state of Utah, the program, the fans,
Speaker 6: the culture. I'm not even gonna call them the supporters
Speaker 6: because of what they did to me during my down
Speaker 6: times because for instance, my first injury, man almost I
Speaker 6: was about to transfer on out and levire because I
Speaker 6: was just at first I felt like alone because I
Speaker 6: was like, man, I'm from California and you know people
Speaker 6: are wanted to the season, but no, Thankfully I had
Speaker 6: a coach Rod who obviously that b YU now you know,
Speaker 6: he loved on me and make sure that I was
Speaker 6: loved in that moment and not forgotten. And our teammates
Speaker 6: came to visit me. The fans all wrapped their arms
Speaker 6: around me in the community if they see me around.
Speaker 6: And so when the second time happened, that that love
Speaker 6: like you know with times too, and so I'm definitely
Speaker 6: appreciative of that. You know, I'm always indebted to Utah
Speaker 6: for that because they showed me that amount of love.
Speaker 1: I don't know how familiar familiar you are.
Speaker 2: Kenneth with Devin Dampier, the new quarterback here at the
Speaker 2: University of Utah, who spent last season at New Mexico.
Speaker 2: He arrives on campus with his offensive coordinator Jason Beck
Speaker 2: and some other New Mexico transfer transfers as well. So again,
Speaker 2: not sure if you've been able to kind of dig
Speaker 2: in and get to know about Devin at all. But
Speaker 2: what are you expecting from Utah's new quarterback as we
Speaker 2: approach game day in just nine days?
Speaker 6: Man, it's going to be a new dimension. I definitely
Speaker 6: I love I mean, I love the way he plays
Speaker 6: with utmost swagger and confidence. That's something kim Ryson has,
Speaker 6: that swagger and confidence. I love that about him. When
Speaker 6: you look at his game, it's pretty balanced. He he
Speaker 6: can't throw the ball and he can run that ball.
Speaker 6: And so it's going to be interesting to kind of
Speaker 6: go back to a real dual threat type of quarterback
Speaker 6: that can actually really do good in both aspects of
Speaker 6: the game and can open up pass and lanes with
Speaker 6: you know, with his diversity, the dualness of what it
Speaker 6: can do to the game. And then his counterparts that
Speaker 6: came with him, you know, the running backs and even
Speaker 6: a receiver. I like the receiver.
Speaker 8: I think his named Ryan. I like what he does.
Speaker 8: He put up really good numbers last season. Like seven
Speaker 8: over seven hundred some.
Speaker 6: Yards and fifty over fifty catches, So obviously there's chemistry
Speaker 6: there along with the other receivers that we have. And
Speaker 6: obviously our old lineman is freaking stacked and good. So
Speaker 6: you know, I'm looking forward to him being the leader
Speaker 6: that he is and like really moving that team and
Speaker 6: that offense along to where we can really make some
Speaker 6: noise on the officer and that kind of keeps up
Speaker 6: with the manstra of our program. And defense always wins
Speaker 6: his games. But I mean the offense and the hold
Speaker 6: their way too.
Speaker 2: You know, the Irony Kenneth is a year ago, just
Speaker 2: an average offense would have put Utah in contention for
Speaker 2: a Big twelve championship because to your point, the defense
Speaker 2: is always stout, it is always prepared and is always
Speaker 2: ready to do. You have confidence that this year, based
Speaker 2: off the new personnel, the offense can at least complement
Speaker 2: the defense enough to put Utah in a position to
Speaker 2: compete for the league this season.
Speaker 6: I'm hoping That's what I'm hoping. You know, It's always
Speaker 6: tricky because the new transitions, I know, I mean every
Speaker 6: year I was there at Utah, we had a different
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator and a different system, and so I know
Speaker 6: how that can take time, you know, to implement. But
Speaker 6: luckily for us, the quarterback and some of his weapons
Speaker 6: are coming over here, so it's not going to be
Speaker 6: as steep as a transition. So I'm assuming that we're
Speaker 6: at least i'm kno gonna win them. Hopefully we can
Speaker 6: average about twenty seven points, twenty six, twenty seven. I'm
Speaker 6: hoping right because I think this is a high off
Speaker 6: the hot scoring type of league nowadays, that's in the
Speaker 6: big blow and so I'm hoping if we can put
Speaker 6: up some larger numbers will be good. I think we can.
Speaker 6: We can do it. I think we can do it.
Speaker 6: We have some weapons, we got chemistry from their past teams,
Speaker 6: and you know, I think we're still balanced across the
Speaker 6: table when it comes to offense and the weapons. I think,
Speaker 6: you know, we put together in a symbol pretty good
Speaker 6: people from transfers, et cetera, and I think their experience
Speaker 6: coming in, I think we should be good.
Speaker 1: You reference the balance.
Speaker 2: I'm really interested, Kenneth to see what that looks like
Speaker 2: this year on this team, because you point out the
Speaker 2: offensive line, all five starters are coming back ESPN ranked
Speaker 2: their top one hundred players in college football yesterday. Spencer
Speaker 2: Fino was number seven in the country regardless of position,
Speaker 2: so a lot of people think he's like a top
Speaker 2: ten pick. The other tackle, Cayleb Blowman's on the A
Speaker 2: sophomore Karen Kompa is a captain. Michael Mocafisi has thirty
Speaker 2: three starts like so. So, so we know that the
Speaker 2: old line is awesome. We know that they have two
Speaker 2: running backs they like. We know they have a quarterback
Speaker 2: that can really run. Part of me believes this will
Speaker 2: be a run heavy attack. But what sort of balance
Speaker 2: do you anticipate from Utah's offense this year?
Speaker 6: That's what you bring up a good point. So I
Speaker 6: think since since we know that too outside looking in,
Speaker 6: I'm assuming other team's gonna think about the same and
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a more packed box, maybe a single
Speaker 6: high safety rather than too high.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 6: Single high safety just means there's gonna be more people
Speaker 6: in the box. You know the safety is gonna come
Speaker 6: down that it's gonna offer more opportunities on the outside
Speaker 6: to make plays and even the slot players too. So
Speaker 6: I think that's gonna allow us to do you know,
Speaker 6: have more masses on the outside for big plays and
Speaker 6: shoot with that type of offense, and having you know,
Speaker 6: our quarterback being a duel threat, he is shoot one
Speaker 6: on one in the open field. Man he could take
Speaker 6: something that as simple as a readoption and take at
Speaker 6: the distance. You know. So you know, I expect us
Speaker 6: to have some big plays just because of you know,
Speaker 6: even if us outside looking in know that we have
Speaker 6: a good office line, we have some good running back
Speaker 6: and a court back as a dual threat, we could
Speaker 6: we can expect to be about sixty five percent run
Speaker 6: at sixty six percent run and then the rest being uh,
Speaker 6: you know, whether it's play action, you know, those type
Speaker 6: of aspects in the passing game. So I think a
Speaker 6: stack box going allow more bigger plays on the outside,
Speaker 6: which is going to kind of make us a little
Speaker 6: more effective out that It's going to be pretty good.
Speaker 6: I'm excited for it actually.
Speaker 2: So you played the wide receiver position, and it is
Speaker 2: the positional group that most people have the most questions
Speaker 2: about because you know, Zach Williams kid was thought to
Speaker 2: be the number one wide receiver. He transfers to USC
Speaker 2: they're they're all they're all new, and if they're all new,
Speaker 2: they're all transfers.
Speaker 1: We don't know much about any of them.
Speaker 2: Soon as somebody who played the position, what should we
Speaker 2: be hoping for as far as watching a group of
Speaker 2: new players, what's it like to play wide receiver at Utah?
Speaker 1: For Kyle winning him?
Speaker 6: Man, I was hurt when Zack when he left the US. No, no, no,
Speaker 6: bring him back. Come on, man, he did so well
Speaker 6: and I think it was the UCF game he was balling.
Speaker 6: But you know what you can expect. I always say this, Man,
Speaker 6: it's not that we never had the like the talent
Speaker 6: at the position. It's just a matter of opportunity when
Speaker 6: it comes to it. And so if you are a receiver,
Speaker 6: just know that a lot of times you may have
Speaker 6: to put your ego aside and be like, man, you
Speaker 6: probably most likely are not going to get ten catches
Speaker 6: a game or ten of tips a game. You're gonna
Speaker 6: have to do the dirty work and do whatever it
Speaker 6: takes in order for us to win a game. And
Speaker 6: if that's four catches a game, three catches, three attempts,
Speaker 6: whatever that is, you just got to know when that
Speaker 6: ball is in your area, in your way, you just
Speaker 6: got to come down with it, right, make the most
Speaker 6: And so in translation, the receivers if they can go
Speaker 6: to a weed mentality instead of an eye, just like, man,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna try to get ten catches. That's a cool aspiration.
Speaker 6: But you know, think about the team too, because when
Speaker 6: it comes to our offense, it's more about you know,
Speaker 6: when the opportunity does come, you just got to make
Speaker 6: the most of it. And just know that we are
Speaker 6: traditionally a run offense, and so you just gotta be
Speaker 6: you got to access some things you got to accept, right,
Speaker 6: And so I think when it's coming to a receiver
Speaker 6: in you just got to accept like, Okay, I may
Speaker 6: not be a thousand yard receiver in this offense or whever,
Speaker 6: I can still be productive in regards to the run game,
Speaker 6: helping my running back. If I hit this safety download,
Speaker 6: now he's single. Now he's one on one with a
Speaker 6: person and he can take it the distance.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: It's just those unselfish acts that doesn't show on the
Speaker 6: stat sheet that's going to make you valuable as a
Speaker 6: receiver in this offense. And then when the opportunity does come,
Speaker 6: you just got to make sure what it makes sure
Speaker 6: it's your way to keep the possession going, or make
Speaker 6: that big play on the outside when it's one on one.
Speaker 6: You really and we really need it to shift the game.
Speaker 6: So I say all say all that have to say.
Speaker 6: As a receiver in this offense, just know that you
Speaker 6: know you're gonna put your ego aside and do what's
Speaker 6: best for the team, and just know when something comes
Speaker 6: your way, just take advantage of it.
Speaker 2: Current state of the sport is always something I'm interested
Speaker 2: to talk about former players with and let's start here.
Speaker 2: Is it still weird for you that the Pac twelve
Speaker 2: is dead, that there's not a home for West Coast football?
Speaker 6: I am hurt by that. I am hurt. I grew
Speaker 6: up with the Pack Cans, watching USC and Oregon and
Speaker 6: even man, it hurts. I'm not gonna lie. It hurts
Speaker 6: me to the core being the West Coast guy. And
Speaker 6: no disrespect to the current teams in the in the
Speaker 6: new Pack, no disrespect, but it's not the same. It
Speaker 6: isn't the same. So I'm hurt by that. I'm be honest,
Speaker 6: and I don't like it, but I'm trying to understand
Speaker 6: it and be honest, I'm trying to understand it and
Speaker 6: accept it. But I don't like it. I'm just gonna
Speaker 6: be honest with you.
Speaker 2: What do you think about Utah's current home, the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a different thing. It's a different footprint,
Speaker 2: it's different road trips for fans, it's an entirely new experience.
Speaker 6: What do you think, Big Kennon, It's okay. I mean,
Speaker 6: I'm selfishly it's okay for me because I know we're
Speaker 6: gonna have a game in Texas like this year. I
Speaker 6: see we're going to Baylor, so obviously I'm gonna march
Speaker 6: up to Baylor. We Waco, Texas to watch them play Baylor.
Speaker 6: But I honestly feel the way our program is structured,
Speaker 6: we either belong in the Big ten or if we
Speaker 6: had enough. I'm not saying we had enough. If we
Speaker 6: if we consistently show we have firepower as much as
Speaker 6: we do on defense on the office end, I think
Speaker 6: we can be an SEC type school honestly, because we
Speaker 6: have a strong stout defense. In every SEC school we play,
Speaker 6: we handle ourselves pretty well, and so I think we're
Speaker 6: a Big ten type school and hopefully within the next
Speaker 6: couple of years that can make it happen. But then again,
Speaker 6: doesn't change the road tripping aspect of it. But I
Speaker 6: think final destination big twelve, I mean Big ten. But
Speaker 6: I can put up with the Big twelve currently because selfishly,
Speaker 6: they're going to be showing up in Texas where I
Speaker 6: can watch them.
Speaker 2: The other thing that has changed, Kennon since you were
Speaker 2: on campus is the ability of football players to profit
Speaker 2: off their name, image and likeness and make a little
Speaker 2: bit of money and in some cases make a lot
Speaker 2: of money. I always wonder how that lands with guys
Speaker 2: like you that had big personalities and were really really
Speaker 2: good and probably could have made a lot of money
Speaker 2: if the rules were a little bit different. Are you
Speaker 2: happy that we have the change? Does it kind of
Speaker 2: make you cringe a little bit that you weren't part
Speaker 2: of it? Give me your thoughts on.
Speaker 6: That it's too way this duality to it. So for me,
Speaker 6: I'm happy for them, But oftentimes the things I see
Speaker 6: make me unhappy because it lose the essence of like
Speaker 6: the realness of the college experience. I'm gonna be honest, man,
Speaker 6: that locker room is sacred, like sacred, Like I just
Speaker 6: remember the good times, but we didn't have as much
Speaker 6: where we'd be like man, bro we don't need noodles.
Speaker 6: But you know, we we bump up together as far
Speaker 6: as the same apartment or something, and we just squander
Speaker 6: up a few dollars just to go down to catch
Speaker 6: to the tracks to the taco bell on the four
Speaker 6: hundred South, and you know it's just you. You miss
Speaker 6: court memories, you know, those type of court memories like
Speaker 6: it was back then where we didn't have we used
Speaker 6: to have to we couldn't. I think the only thing
Speaker 6: we can have is like a bagel or a piece
Speaker 6: of fruit, like to where they can give to us.
Speaker 6: And so those memories, you know, those are prime memories
Speaker 6: for us. Like but then again, on the other side
Speaker 6: of them getting paid for you know, their name, image
Speaker 6: and likeness, it's cool. But as long as they know
Speaker 6: what to do and they align with the people that
Speaker 6: are paying them, Like if I'm them, I would make
Speaker 6: sure if I am partnering with someone, make sure that
Speaker 6: they're aligning to my desired outcome in my future. That
Speaker 6: can now only maximize what I'm working on right now.
Speaker 6: But for after sports, and I mean the missing key
Speaker 6: is them. Man, if they can build relationships with this
Speaker 6: nil landscape, that can not only set them up for
Speaker 6: now but for later too. I think that's the goodness
Speaker 6: of it. But then you have predators out there that
Speaker 6: could take advantage of the student apple as well. So
Speaker 6: it's both ways. For me, I wish I had it,
Speaker 6: you know, But then again, I look at my current situation,
Speaker 6: I'm like, nothing really changed other than the monetary stuff.
Speaker 6: I think the relationship for me is what was the
Speaker 6: real substantial piece through my college experience and the network
Speaker 6: that I build. So long story short, I like both
Speaker 6: sides of it. I mean I like one side of it,
Speaker 6: but I hate the other side of it.
Speaker 2: No, it's well said, and you reference relationship Ken Kenneth.
Speaker 2: So before I say you lose, which are your former
Speaker 2: teammates do you keep in contact with? How connected are
Speaker 2: you to the alumni base man.
Speaker 6: I don't want to single everyone out because think of like,
Speaker 6: well what about me? But I do have a lot
Speaker 6: of folks that I do keep in contact with currently
Speaker 6: right now, I know, I don't know if I could
Speaker 6: say too much of it, but we're trying to put
Speaker 6: together a former athlete association type things where you know,
Speaker 6: we can always keep that bond through different eras, right,
Speaker 6: And so me right now. I still follow up with
Speaker 6: basically all my receivers from every era that I've played in,
Speaker 6: and even my quarterbacks, Like I know Travis Wilson, He's
Speaker 6: like one of my bestest friends. You know. I surprised
Speaker 6: him by a couple of weeks ago when I went
Speaker 6: to Cali to check up on them and to see him.
Speaker 6: And so, you know, I do have friends, you know,
Speaker 6: obviously somewhere out here in Texas. I watch their kids
Speaker 6: and it's crazy to me that we all have kids
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. So it's pretty cool. I make
Speaker 6: sure I stay in Entrench with my teammates because you know,
Speaker 6: those are memories that are forged in my mind that
Speaker 6: I'll never forget, and so I make sure I love
Speaker 6: on them from time to time because I understand the
Speaker 6: transition could be hard, but if you had a support
Speaker 6: system of the people that was with you during hard
Speaker 6: times and good time, man, it makes the transition much better.
Speaker 2: Where can people go find you on social if they
Speaker 2: want to book you to speak? Where are some of
Speaker 2: the touch points people can find you, Kenneth.
Speaker 6: Yeah for sure, So on Instagram or Twitter they can
Speaker 6: find me at Kate Scott Underscore too and if they
Speaker 6: would like to book me to speak, you can go
Speaker 6: on my website at Kenneth Scott dot me and it's
Speaker 6: they obviously email contact informations in there as well. And
Speaker 6: I'm excited about, uh, there's a future product that I'm
Speaker 6: going to be putting out here soon. It's a software
Speaker 6: product that's going to help you know, current high school
Speaker 6: student athletes that are potential college hopefuls. So I'm excited
Speaker 6: about that piece, which I can elaborate more once it's
Speaker 6: finally said and done, you know. And my whole goal
Speaker 6: is to help all the student athletes where there's high school, college, whatever,
Speaker 6: prepare for their next step, not only right now but
Speaker 6: in life too.
Speaker 2: Good stuff, buddy, Hey, thanks for the time. It's great
Speaker 2: to catch up. You stay safe and we'll get you
Speaker 2: back on soon.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: Sounds great to me. Man, Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 6: I appreciate you all right.
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Speaker 2: five o'clock hour.
Speaker 1: Got a little sports score coming your way as well.
Speaker 2: But it's a historic day for our local soccer club
Speaker 2: as ral Saw Lake made a splash, made an acquisition,
Speaker 2: brought in a really good player, and we are lucky
Speaker 2: enough to get to know him. Here on the program
Speaker 2: is DeAndre Yedlin is our guest an AE Thursday.
Speaker 1: DeAndre Happy Thursday. Man, how are we doing.
Speaker 8: I'm pretty good. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Salt Lake, Welcome to Utah. We're very excited
Speaker 1: to have you here.
Speaker 2: I wonder if you could enlighten us on this process,
Speaker 2: how this all went down, and how you're feeling now
Speaker 2: that you're here on the ground.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was kind of a whirlwind.
Speaker 8: Salt Lake had had shown some interest a bit ago,
Speaker 8: so I've known about the interest for a while and
Speaker 8: you know, finally boiled down, you know, to the point
Speaker 8: where obviously ended up coming here. And you know, I
Speaker 8: think a big, a big thing for me was uh,
Speaker 8: you know, not just there, not just their commitment to
Speaker 8: me now, but you know for the future that you
Speaker 8: know that means a lot, and you know it shows
Speaker 8: just you know, how much they value me. So I
Speaker 8: was really excited to come. I'm really excited to get
Speaker 8: uh in with the group and you know, hopefully make
Speaker 8: a kind of a late last push for this for
Speaker 8: this playoff position.
Speaker 2: Now you're a Seattle kid at birth, and you've lived
Speaker 2: all across the world quite frankly bouncing around Europe, and
Speaker 2: you played in Cincinnati, Miami, of course, Seattle back in
Speaker 2: the day. What what do you know about Utah? What
Speaker 2: do you know about Salt Lake?
Speaker 8: I know about the great Salt Lake.
Speaker 6: I came.
Speaker 8: I came down here when I think I was like
Speaker 8: ten years old. I got a picture of me floating
Speaker 8: into salt in the gray Salt Lake. Me and my
Speaker 8: grandfather did a lot of hikes growing up, you know, obviously,
Speaker 8: being from Seattle with the mountains up there also, so
Speaker 8: we also did a lot of road trips.
Speaker 6: So I think that road.
Speaker 8: Trip specifically was kind of down through Yellowstone and then
Speaker 8: to Arches.
Speaker 6: So I'm a big fan of nature.
Speaker 8: I love mountains, I love National parks, lakes, you know,
Speaker 8: whatever it be, as long as you have to do
Speaker 8: with nature, I'm a I'm a big fan of his.
Speaker 8: So you know that definitely, that definitely had a learning
Speaker 8: effect in pulling me here.
Speaker 1: Now, what do you know about the club? What do
Speaker 1: you know? I mean, I mean, it's it's an interesting thing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it's a it's a it's as far
Speaker 8: as em Ols goes, the historic club in this league,
Speaker 8: you know, I know, obviously this year, uh, you know,
Speaker 8: middle of the pack. So I think there obviously improvements
Speaker 8: can be made, but you know, at the end of
Speaker 8: the day, I think there's a great team and a
Speaker 8: team that can really make a push here at the end. Yeah,
Speaker 8: at the end of the day, I think, you know,
Speaker 8: it's a it's a great club. They've had club legends here.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 8: I actually was able to play with both Nick Ramondo
Speaker 8: and Kyle Beckerman. You know, Jason christ was a coach
Speaker 8: of mine and in Miami, so I know him pretty well.
Speaker 8: The GM Kurt was I don't know what his official
Speaker 8: position was in Seattle when I was in the academy there,
Speaker 8: but he was there when I was when I was
Speaker 8: in Seattle, so I know him pretty well. John Spencer,
Speaker 8: who also works works at the club. You know, I've
Speaker 8: known him since I was in high school. So I
Speaker 8: know quite a lot of people. Tony Belchan I played against,
Speaker 8: So yeah, I know, I know quite a lot of
Speaker 8: people within the club, and you know, they've all made
Speaker 8: me feel so welcome.
Speaker 2: So tell me, DeAndre, We're hoping to see your club
Speaker 2: debut on Saturday?
Speaker 1: Is that the plan?
Speaker 8: I hope?
Speaker 6: So yeah, I hope.
Speaker 8: So you know, I want to get started as quick
Speaker 8: as possible and kind of get integrated within the group.
Speaker 6: So yeah, hopefully sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2: What in your conversations with Pablo, who's a guest on
Speaker 2: the show every week and someone I've known a long
Speaker 2: time and I really have become fond of him.
Speaker 1: He's a really, really good guy.
Speaker 2: So I wonder what your impressions are of him, and
Speaker 2: during the conversations you've had with him, what what have
Speaker 2: you been asked to do so far?
Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, the first time I've talked to him
Speaker 8: was today. You know, obviously known I've known of Pablo
Speaker 8: for quite a long time. I think, you know, everybody
Speaker 8: with an MLS has. My first conversation with him was
Speaker 8: actually today, and he's a great guy. He's a great
Speaker 8: you can tell from just from the get go. He's
Speaker 8: a great guy. He really, you know, not only cares
Speaker 8: about the player, but the human asked at it as well,
Speaker 8: which I truly appreciate. And yeah, I think, I mean,
Speaker 8: I think, you know, a big reason why they brought
Speaker 8: me in is for you know, kind of my veteran
Speaker 8: presence and to two young teams, so to to help
Speaker 8: lead to help kind of lead us in the right direction,
Speaker 8: and you know, obviously be a presidence on the field,
Speaker 8: you know, and and and try to do what I
Speaker 8: do on the field, also help off the field, you know,
Speaker 8: with whatever needs to be helped with. So yeah, I
Speaker 8: think just add that that layer of maturity in and
Speaker 8: you know, help help this team achieve great things.
Speaker 1: How familiar are you, DeAndre with this roster?
Speaker 2: And obviously it's going to be a learning curve because
Speaker 2: they just brought in Roland Cruise as well as Victor
Speaker 2: Olatunji to big acquisition during the summer windows, so it
Speaker 2: is kind of a new group. And as you referenced earlier,
Speaker 2: it's getting late early. There's only eight matches left to
Speaker 2: try to get this club across the playoff line.
Speaker 1: So what do you know about your new teammates?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I obviously know about a lot. I
Speaker 8: haven't played with any of them previously in any of
Speaker 8: my previous clubs, but I do know a lot of
Speaker 8: about the players here, whether that's been you know, speaking
Speaker 8: with players that I've played with the players here or whatnot.
Speaker 6: So you know, I feel like I feel like I
Speaker 6: do know them, But today it is.
Speaker 8: My first day of training. So you know, it's good
Speaker 8: to get out and get to know the guys a
Speaker 8: little bit. And it's a great group. You know, they,
Speaker 8: like I said, they welcome me in, you know, so
Speaker 8: so easily. So it was really good to get out
Speaker 8: with them. And you know, they obviously have some some
Speaker 8: great talent on the team, great young talent. And you
Speaker 8: know that excites me, you know because usually usually the
Speaker 8: the the young guys are super hungry, and I like that.
Speaker 8: I like that, you know, kind of just head down
Speaker 8: and work, and you know, that's what you need, that's
Speaker 8: what you need to to win championships.
Speaker 2: So ultimately, you are also married with two young children.
Speaker 2: And did I read that your wife is from the Bronx.
Speaker 8: She is from the Bronx. Yeah, she is from the Bronx.
Speaker 2: Yeah, DeAndre where I'm a Northeast kid. I grew up
Speaker 2: in Connecticut. It's a little where we're a little bit
Speaker 2: far away from the Bronx.
Speaker 1: Salt Lake is not necessarily Bronx.
Speaker 2: I've got to know what was your wife's reaction when
Speaker 2: you said, Babe, we're moving to Salt Lake.
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 8: She I mean, she's she's been amazing throughout my whole career.
Speaker 8: She was out with me in Newcastle. She moved with
Speaker 8: me when I went to Turkey, obviously, to Miami, to
Speaker 8: Cincinnati and out here. So she's she's all those places
Speaker 8: were so different. She's adapted to every to every place,
Speaker 8: and she truly is you know, she truly is that rock,
Speaker 8: you know, because obviously I'm on the road a lot,
Speaker 8: so you know, she's the one that stays behind with
Speaker 8: the kids and she makes my life way way easier.
Speaker 8: But she was excited, you know, she knows how into
Speaker 8: the mountains and you know, hiking and that sort of
Speaker 8: life that I am. So she's excited to kind of
Speaker 8: see that aspect of it because we haven't really lived
Speaker 8: in a place, you know, since we've been together that
Speaker 8: has been able to offer that. So we're excited to
Speaker 8: get out and get on some adventures out in the mountains.
Speaker 2: So once upon a time, DeAndre, you were the youngest
Speaker 2: player on the World Cup roster in twenty fourteen, and look,
Speaker 2: father time comes for us. All you blink and suddenly
Speaker 2: you're thirty two and you're the wily old vet top
Speaker 2: to tell me about the evolution the process going from
Speaker 2: one of the bright young stars in our country to
Speaker 2: now this vet, how has your journey kind of colored
Speaker 2: that context for you?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's been a wild ride.
Speaker 8: And you know, the crazy thing is I don't feel
Speaker 8: a day older than when I started, you know, so
Speaker 8: you know, obviously, you know physically it casts up with you,
Speaker 8: but you know, mentally, I still feel young, I still
Speaker 8: feel energetic. But it's been an amazing journey. And I've
Speaker 8: learned so much along this journey. I think even more
Speaker 8: than which are probably surprised people, even more than on
Speaker 8: the field growth off the field, I've grown a ton,
Speaker 8: and I think I see a lot of that credigois
Speaker 8: to my kids. I think becoming a father has really,
Speaker 8: you know, given me a whole new perspective on life.
Speaker 8: But now I wouldn't change anything. I wouldn't change anything
Speaker 8: I've done. I have no regrets within my career because
Speaker 8: everything has led me to hear and ultimately this is,
Speaker 8: this is at this point where I want to be,
Speaker 8: and I'm glad I'm here.
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 1: Is there?
Speaker 2: You know, when you look at your resume, you've accomplished
Speaker 2: a lot in this game, You've accomplished a lot as
Speaker 2: a player. Is there a single highlight. Is it a
Speaker 2: World Cup call up? Is it going overseas and playing
Speaker 2: in Europe? Is there one highlight that you're most proud of?
Speaker 8: Honestly, honestly, it is just playing in front of my kids.
Speaker 8: That's that's really the biggest thing for me. I'm a
Speaker 8: huge family guy, and you know, I try to keep
Speaker 8: the main thing the main thing, and I know for
Speaker 8: me the main thing is my kids and my family.
Speaker 8: Soccer is second to that. So, you know the fact
Speaker 8: that I'm able to play in front of them and
Speaker 8: they're they're able to see their father, you know, play
Speaker 8: like they They still ask questions when people come up
Speaker 8: and try to take pictures of me, like why is
Speaker 8: that person taking a picture with you? So they don't
Speaker 8: understand completely yet, but you know, that was one of
Speaker 8: the things when I was younger that I always dreamed
Speaker 8: of was being able to have my kids watch me play.
Speaker 8: So to be able to feel that dream has been
Speaker 8: has been nice. And hopefully I can uh lift the championship,
Speaker 8: you know, with them Washington as well.
Speaker 2: I've just got to know what it's like because I
Speaker 2: read that you you were the captain in Miami and
Speaker 2: then they then they acquired a player. Let me see
Speaker 2: if I can pronounce this name right, uh in Leonal Messi?
Speaker 1: What what was it? What was it like to hand
Speaker 1: the captain's arm band the legal Messi?
Speaker 8: I mean it was a pretty easy thing for me
Speaker 8: because I'm not going to be.
Speaker 6: On the field with Messi and and and.
Speaker 8: Be the captain. So I was like, yeah, you you
Speaker 8: take this, my friend, But no, it was it was
Speaker 8: an amazing experience. You know, he's he's a player that
Speaker 8: you know, not only myself, but I think probably everybody
Speaker 8: playing now like soccer nowadays, grew up watching and admiring
Speaker 8: and you know, he was a he was a hero
Speaker 8: to a lot of people. So you know, to be
Speaker 8: able to share the field with him and see how
Speaker 8: he goes through life and how he goes through you know,
Speaker 8: his his daily routines, it was incredible and it was
Speaker 8: cool insight because you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 8: what I realized about him is he's he's a guy
Speaker 8: that loves his kids, that loves his wife, that is
Speaker 8: a family men. And you know a lot of people
Speaker 8: don't get to see, I think that side of him
Speaker 8: because that everybody only watched him on the field. But
Speaker 8: you know as a family guy myself, I really respected
Speaker 8: that aspect of him because you don't you don't see
Speaker 8: many great athletes that also are great family men. You know,
Speaker 8: it's he is one or the other usually sort of
Speaker 8: for him to be able to juggle both of those,
Speaker 8: you know, because it makes me have a lot of
Speaker 8: respect for him.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't mean to geek out on this dynamic.
Speaker 2: I just think it's it's so incredible that he is here,
Speaker 2: and it's so incredible that we have the opportunity to
Speaker 2: watch him play in the United States. I never thought
Speaker 2: it would be a reality. So I've got I've got
Speaker 2: to ask you what was it like to experience just
Speaker 2: his brilliance every day in training? Are they are there
Speaker 2: things to learn? Or is it like he's just on
Speaker 2: kind of his own level?
Speaker 1: Is it is it? Is it even hard to focus
Speaker 1: when you're watching brilliance like that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I mean he's on his own level obviously.
Speaker 8: You know, you can try to replicate the things that
Speaker 8: he does, but you know you're not gonna be able to.
Speaker 8: So it's really just about it's just about accepting it
Speaker 8: and just enjoying the show while it's while it's on.
Speaker 8: You know, obviously father time catches up to him as well,
Speaker 8: and you know he's not gonna be able to go
Speaker 8: on forever. So you know, it's just really just about
Speaker 8: enjoying it and enjoying you know, that greatness and that brilliance.
Speaker 8: Well it's here, and then you know when he when
Speaker 8: he retires. I'm he's obviously, in my eyes, the greatest
Speaker 8: player ever to play the game. So you know, to
Speaker 8: be able to say that I was able to share
Speaker 8: the field with him, you know, it's it's it's awesome,
Speaker 8: it's a it's a great story along my journey, you know,
Speaker 8: something I'll cherish.
Speaker 2: You know, you have such a unique prison in perspective,
Speaker 2: DeAndre when it comes to the sport in our country,
Speaker 2: because you've experienced the sport elsewhere, and you've also made
Speaker 2: a home in MLS and you've also played in World Cups.
Speaker 1: You know, RSL has been.
Speaker 2: Here twenty five years now, which is pretty wild to consider.
Speaker 2: How how have you seen the game grow domestically and
Speaker 2: do you believe with a World Cup cycle coming up,
Speaker 2: the game will continue to trend in the right direction?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the game is growing in an insane
Speaker 8: amount here. You know, obviously with the arrival of Messi
Speaker 8: that bumps it up. Then you know, you have the
Speaker 8: Club World Cup that bumps it up. The World Cup
Speaker 8: is coming that will bump it up. And just you know,
Speaker 8: since I've been back from Europe, the level of play
Speaker 8: has gotten exponentially better, the facilities, the stadiums, even even
Speaker 8: down to like how the fans understand the game, you know,
Speaker 8: because you know, back when I back when I started,
Speaker 8: you know, it's still it's still young in America. Wasn't
Speaker 8: like super super young, but it's still young, and there's
Speaker 8: there's times that fans don't really understand what was going on.
Speaker 8: But you can tell they understand the game now and
Speaker 8: you know, for things that should be clapped for, they
Speaker 8: clap for, you know, which is something you see a
Speaker 8: lot in Europe. You know, the fans truly do understand
Speaker 8: the game. So it's nice nice to see over here.
Speaker 8: I think you see the expectation now of US fans
Speaker 8: and you know, they expect, you know, really high things
Speaker 8: from the US team, which I think is awesome because
Speaker 8: you know, I don't think that was the case thirty
Speaker 8: years ago.
Speaker 6: Or whatnot.
Speaker 8: So, yeah, it's growing, going exponentially. It's great to see.
Speaker 8: I think it's only going to grow even more. And
Speaker 8: you know, all that means is is you know, better
Speaker 8: players being produced and you know, better talent for this country.
Speaker 2: When you were a young player, when you were coming
Speaker 2: up through the youth ranks, did you have because I
Speaker 2: always find this interesting, you know, when it comes to
Speaker 2: the visions people had for their careers. Did you have
Speaker 2: the goal of playing in a World Cup? Did you
Speaker 2: have the goal of playing in Europe? Or has your
Speaker 2: career even outshot your own dreams what you thought you
Speaker 2: could do.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I I had a dream of going
Speaker 8: I had dreams of going to Europe. I had dreams
Speaker 8: of playing the World Cup. But yeah, I mean as honestly,
Speaker 8: as as soon as I really turned as I turned professional,
Speaker 8: it wasn't I didn't really even think about those sorts
Speaker 8: of things.
Speaker 6: It was just kind of.
Speaker 8: Taking it day by day and you know, just kind
Speaker 8: of going with the flow if you will, you know,
Speaker 8: it's there's It's not often I sit and think act
Speaker 8: on my career. Sometimes I take time to do it, but.
Speaker 6: You know, so much of.
Speaker 8: It is just day by day, and that's how I
Speaker 8: try to live my life. You know, tomorrow's not promised,
Speaker 8: so you know, I just try to live in the president,
Speaker 8: live in the present moment, and you know, what will
Speaker 8: be will be. Kind of I I personally is, especially
Speaker 8: with kids coming into my life, understand there's more important
Speaker 8: things than soccer, So you know, I don't want to
Speaker 8: make that like the you know, this is my ultimate
Speaker 8: dream or my you know, ultimate goal. But yeah, I
Speaker 8: think for me, it's just it's taking it day by
Speaker 8: day and what will be will be, and just try
Speaker 8: at the end of the day, try to do the
Speaker 8: best you can.
Speaker 1: Oh, you and Pablo are going to get it.
Speaker 2: You're going to get along with Pablo so well.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've heard. I've heard he's into grounding, which I'm
Speaker 8: very into as well. So we'll have to get some
Speaker 8: grounding sessions.
Speaker 1: In grounding meditation. You will find him meditation.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get along really well.
Speaker 2: Do you do you have any boxes you would like
Speaker 2: to check that you haven't checked yet. I know you're
Speaker 2: an in the moment guy you're focused on right now,
Speaker 2: but is there anything you feel like you have left
Speaker 2: to accomplish.
Speaker 8: I mean in MLS so far, I haven't won an
Speaker 8: MLS Cup, so I have won every other well besides
Speaker 8: like a Champions League here, but I haven't won an
Speaker 8: MLS Cup. So I would love to do that here
Speaker 8: in Salt Lake. I think, you know, we're building a
Speaker 8: great team to be able to accomplish that. So that's
Speaker 8: that's kind of a main goal here is to is
Speaker 8: to achieve that.
Speaker 2: What do you like to do when you're not playing soccer?
Speaker 2: I know you got those kiddos in the life. Is
Speaker 2: it just family time when you're not playing.
Speaker 8: It's it's family time. I'm a I'm a big creative person,
Speaker 8: so whether it's drawing or some sort of art fashion,
Speaker 8: I love. I love really anything that has to do
Speaker 8: with creativity. I love the mountain, so here I'll probably
Speaker 8: be hiking and you know, driving up in the mountains
Speaker 8: and you know, just enjoy being in nature. You know,
Speaker 8: enjoy taking my kids up there. They haven't really seen
Speaker 8: anything like this in their lifetime, so I think it'll
Speaker 8: be pretty special because you know, it was literally at
Speaker 8: the age that they are now that my grandfather started
Speaker 8: taking me. So it'll be a cool kind of I
Speaker 8: want to say full circle moment, but just kind of
Speaker 8: continuing to continue the path of you know, getting down
Speaker 8: to nature young.
Speaker 2: All right, before I say you lose, I gotta ask
Speaker 2: you this question. I asked Diego, Diego Luna the same question.
Speaker 2: I am fascinated with what I refer to as neck
Speaker 2: tattoo confidence, neck tack confidence.
Speaker 1: Where does where does that come from? The neck tack confidence?
Speaker 8: Honestly, I was like, all right, I've had I'm trying
Speaker 8: to think when I got it. When I got my
Speaker 8: neck tat, yeah, I was like, I've been playing for
Speaker 8: long enough now I feel like if I need to
Speaker 8: get a job after, I can do something in the game.
Speaker 8: So I think I'm safe to get a neck tat.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 8: I was holding out on it a bit just because
Speaker 8: I'm like, I don't know if I'm gonna have to
Speaker 8: work a nine to five or something after. But I figured,
Speaker 8: you know, hopefully, if I if I'm gonna work, I
Speaker 8: can do something within the game, and and they're they're
Speaker 8: not going to be too pressed about it. Some necktats,
Speaker 8: So yeah, it's.
Speaker 6: Uh, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 8: I think it's I think it's awesome. I love Diego tattoos.
Speaker 8: I think I think they show us character and you know,
Speaker 8: allow him to be an individual. And yeah, it's it's awesome.
Speaker 8: I got asked the question today if we're gonna have
Speaker 8: a top tattoo count competition, so we we may be
Speaker 8: doing that in one of these one of these upcoming days.
Speaker 1: No, I love it, man.
Speaker 2: I think if you're in a scrap and you see
Speaker 2: a guy roll up on you in a neck tat,
Speaker 2: you better turn around and walk the other way.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: I mean it's I think it's a.
Speaker 8: Message exactly exactly, a little a little fake intimidation there,
Speaker 8: you know the vibe.
Speaker 1: Love it man. Well, look, welcome to Salt Lake. I
Speaker 1: do think you'll love it here.
Speaker 2: It's good living man, and best of luck, and we
Speaker 2: hope to see a debut on Saturday.
Speaker 8: Okay, I appreciate that.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much. All right.
Speaker 2: DeAndre Yedlin the newest member of Raal sal Lake who's
Speaker 2: accomplished almost all you can accomplish as a soccer player.
Speaker 2: Certainly raised here in the United States, He's a Seattle
Speaker 2: kid born in Seattle, spent his early years in MLS
Speaker 2: with the Sounders, fifty six appearances with them, spent a
Speaker 2: minute with my Tottenham Hotspur, but was transferred to Sunderland
Speaker 2: and then made most of his European experience with Newcastle
Speaker 2: United one hundred and twelve appearances at three goals for them.
Speaker 2: Spent a little time in Turkey, then came back and
Speaker 2: played for Miami.
Speaker 1: I think that was a DP acquisition for Miami.
Speaker 2: Was named captain, and then Miami acquired a guy named
Speaker 2: Leono Messi, and then DeAndre gave him the captain's arm
Speaker 2: band because well, you know. Sixty five appearance with Miami,
Speaker 2: most recently with Cincinnati, fifty five appearances there, eighty five
Speaker 2: caps with the US men's national team. The only player
Speaker 2: that played for both the two thousand and twelve team, No.
Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen team the twenty twenty two team. So that
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen team was with Nicky and Kyle, so played
Speaker 2: with Nick Romado Kyle Beckerman and then also made the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two squad as kind of a vet there.
Speaker 2: So DeAndre has made the rounds. He's one of he
Speaker 2: might be I don't know, the biggest star, individual star
Speaker 2: that we've ever had here playing for RSL. So DeAndre
Speaker 2: Yedlin the newest member of Royal Salt Lake. He is
Speaker 2: a right back and that is a position that has
Speaker 2: been of need for a number of years, really since
Speaker 2: they sent Aaron Herrera on his way. All right, before
Speaker 2: we say good night, I need a little credit here
Speaker 2: because Roxy Bernstein, who is currently listening to sound check
Speaker 2: for the Counting Crows and Gaslight Anthem, is awesome. I'm
Speaker 2: actually jealous. I didn't know Gaslight was opening for Counting Crows.
Speaker 2: So Roxy is seeing that show night, which I'm sure
Speaker 2: is gonna be fun. Hopefully the weather holds up for them.
Speaker 2: Out of you, Sada, But then he said tomorrow night
Speaker 2: he's going to the five for Fighting concert and Porter,
Speaker 2: I need a little credit because Old Spence. Okay, yes,
Speaker 2: I went third person before the airing of Grievances when
Speaker 2: one of our listeners took me to task for making
Speaker 2: fun of other people's music. I have changed my ways
Speaker 2: because Old Spence would have summarily mocked Roxy Bernstein for
Speaker 2: going to a five for Fighting concert.
Speaker 1: You didn't make fun of him once?
Speaker 2: No, I mean I wanted to pay respect, and also
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be better, a kinder, gentler Spencer and
Speaker 2: five for Fighting rocks.
Speaker 1: No, they don't. They very much do not. But look, teach,
Speaker 1: what's the other song they have? Because or was that
Speaker 1: the Superman song? Superman is?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the other popular one. What was it?
Speaker 1: What's that easy? Yes?
Speaker 6: That one?
Speaker 1: Can you sing? Do you have pipes? I don't know
Speaker 1: that I know this about you. Are you musically inclined?
Speaker 3: So my family is all like very musically inclined. My grandpa,
Speaker 3: my sister, my dad could pick up a guitar. Like,
Speaker 3: they're all really really good. I can't play an instrument
Speaker 3: for a lick, but when they're all playing, I can
Speaker 3: carry a.
Speaker 1: Tune with them.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, good stuff. But I was kind to Roxy.
Speaker 2: I was respectful. I did not say anything about his
Speaker 2: choice to spend time actually seeing Five for Fighting in concert.
Speaker 3: And ultimately, you know, you only have so many chances
Speaker 3: to see some of your favorite bands. Only you only
Speaker 3: get so many opportunities to see Counting Crows and Five
Speaker 3: for Fighting two days in a row.
Speaker 1: Wow. See, it feels like Roxy doesn't strike me as
Speaker 1: a five for Fighting guy. A five for Fighting concert feels.
Speaker 2: Like it would be similar to like a bare naked
Speaker 2: lady's audience, right is that fair, like that overlap of audience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know exactly what that means, but yes,
Speaker 3: a lot of like maybe just some wine, some wine gals,
Speaker 3: some maybe like your friends that really really settled down right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of married folk, a lot of people
Speaker 2: that don't have time. Like if you're married with multiple
Speaker 2: kids and like a really busy job, you don't have
Speaker 2: time to get into music. Like I was talking to
Speaker 2: my brother about this when I was visiting them last week.
Speaker 2: He's got a crazy busy job, he has six kids.
Speaker 2: And we got into a debate because he goes, hey,
Speaker 2: the Fray is here tomorrow night. Do you want to
Speaker 2: go see the Fray? I'm like, what, why would you
Speaker 2: bring that up? He's like, wait, you don't like the Fray.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Andrew, the Fray sucks. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: a Fray concert. And he's like, look, I don't have
Speaker 2: time to get into music. I just remembered a Fray song,
Speaker 2: like I think it's how to Save a Life or
Speaker 2: something from like twenty years ago. And I saw that
Speaker 2: they were in town. I know you like music. I
Speaker 2: thought you might want to go. I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to a Fray concert, but is it. Look, I'm
Speaker 2: just yes that song. I'm single, I have one child
Speaker 2: who's grown. I have time to listen to a lot
Speaker 2: of different music to decide what I like. So I
Speaker 2: would say the Fray five for fighting bare naked ladies
Speaker 2: people that are married with kids and have a busy life, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll go to a concert tonight, so do your thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't totally disagree with you. Just to be clear,
Speaker 3: I was kind of playing Devil's advocate with the five
Speaker 3: for Fighting. I will say, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure one hundred years is saved on my Spotify.
Speaker 2: Well, and I'm sure it's probably saved on mine, right,
Speaker 2: And I'm sure the Fray song or I've got a
Speaker 2: few bare naked lady songs like Brian Wilson.
Speaker 1: There we go. You know, So.
Speaker 2: I'm being hypocritical because I'm sure there I have train
Speaker 2: songs on a playlist.
Speaker 1: Okay, So like I'm not above the Fray. Look at
Speaker 1: what I did there?
Speaker 2: Oh well yeah see bringing it back around, we do
Speaker 2: have the details. If you give a rip about the
Speaker 2: DeAndre Jedlin acquisition, RSL sent three hundred and four point
Speaker 2: seven million or a thousand that would be ridiculous. Three
Speaker 2: hundred and four point seven thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: In GAM finally spend in which.
Speaker 2: Is called general allocation money, and that's the number that
Speaker 2: since he had on their salary cap already, so RSL
Speaker 2: didn't really give up a whole lot. Buddy Hidalgo is
Speaker 2: on his way to Montreal, and DeAndre Yedlin is here
Speaker 2: in Salt Lake, all right. Day two of the Tour
Speaker 2: Championship tomorrow will be one day away from college football.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow it'll be Christmas Eve for college football fans, eight
Speaker 2: days away from Utah football and then under two weeks
Speaker 2: away from pro football. So it is that time of Yearporter,
Speaker 2: what comes our way? On a Friday edition of the show.
Speaker 3: A Football Friday, dare i say? Edition of the Drive
Speaker 3: Live from Dublin, our resident Irishman's Chris Camronnie will not
Speaker 3: join the program. Morgan Scally On a Football Friday on
Speaker 3: the Drive, Paul Pugmyer with the latest from the PGA
Speaker 3: Tour Championship, and then Trevor Riley will join the program.
Speaker 3: Of course, a little bit of over a week out
Speaker 3: from Utah football.
Speaker 2: There you go, that'll be a fun Friday show. Get
Speaker 2: that weekend started out the right way and make sure
Speaker 2: to join us. We will say goodnight special thank you
Speaker 2: today to Roxy Bernstein, Rex Hoggard, Kenneth Scott and DeAndre
Speaker 2: Jedlinn For any of the sound from the show you missed.
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