WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:01.080 All right, what's going on? 2 00:00:01.199 --> 00:00:05.200 Drave time Thursday afternoon, six minutes past the hour, two o'clock. 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:07.440 Got some cloud coverage. 4 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:10.279 Today, little rain earlier this morning here in downtown Salt 5 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:14.039 Lake City Talk. It's about eighty two degrees and cloudy outside. 6 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:16.199 Kind of feels a little bit like a fall day. 7 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:18.519 But as it is every day, it's going to have 8 00:00:18.519 --> 00:00:20.559 you along for the ride. Spence check. It's beyond the 9 00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:23.039 mic of that is Porter Larson, beyond the glass producing 10 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:26.320 the show today. Happy Thursday to you. You're almost to 11 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:28.440 the weekend. Hopefully you're having a good work week and 12 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:32.439 have some fun plans for what could be one of 13 00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:35.920 the final warm weather weekends that we see. You never 14 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:38.799 know because we live in a complicated weather pattern state. 15 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:40.920 Not sure if you've noticed that. Hello, Hello, how are you? 16 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:42.399 Thanks for making us a part of your day. 17 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:43.719 A lot going on. 18 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:47.320 The PGA Tour is focused on East Lake in Atlanta 19 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:49.240 as the Tour Championship is going. 20 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:51.560 On as we speak. First rounds. 21 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:54.799 Colin morri Coowa is in the clubhouse at six hundred 22 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:58.439 par shot at sixty four, but Justin Thomas is your leader. 23 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:02.640 JT is seven under through thirteen holes. Fourteen holes now 24 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:07.040 seven hundred through fourteen. Robert McIntyre trying to capitalize on 25 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:09.239 a good weekend last weekend, even though he couldn't get 26 00:01:09.239 --> 00:01:12.599 the win at six hundred par Patrick Candleig Russell Henley 27 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:13.599 at five under par. 28 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:16.519 So some good starts for a lot of the golfers 29 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:17.040 at East Lake. 30 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:20.319 As the Tour Championship is going on right now, we 31 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:23.519 are two days away from the start of college football. 32 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.359 That's right, you made it. Two days away from the 33 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:30.920 start of college football. Week zero gets going Saturday morning 34 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.159 in Dublin, Ireland with Iowa State and Kansas State. Big 35 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:39.480 game between two Big twelve teams. Some games of note 36 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:42.640 may be interested in checking out Kansas as they host Fresno. 37 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:46.599 Stanford will be on the Rock taking on Hawaii. And 38 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:49.319 then we launch in Week one next week and we 39 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:54.400 are nine days away from game day or are local 40 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:57.400 teams for Utah for BYU for Utah States. 41 00:01:57.959 --> 00:01:59.840 Of course, Utah will be at the Rose Bowl taking 42 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:01.280 out on UCLA. 43 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:05.599 Brigham Young welcomes in Portland State and the Bronco and 44 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:09.560 Benanhall era begins in Logan with a matchup against Utah. 45 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:13.080 So two days away from the start of college football 46 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:17.000 and two weeks away as of today from the start 47 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:21.599 of pro football. The final weekend of the preseason in 48 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:25.879 the NFL starts tonight with two games, the Steelers and 49 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:28.719 the Panthers from Charlotte, North Carolina and the Patriots and 50 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:30.560 the Giants at East Rutherford. 51 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:31.719 Speaking of the. 52 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:35.439 Giants, young Jackson Dart receiving reps with the twos today, 53 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:40.280 So it looks like Jackson Dart potentially could be the 54 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:43.520 backup quarterback to Russell Wilson, maybe move ahead of Jameis Winston. 55 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:45.319 So there you go. 56 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:49.479 Little local NFL news on the program today, we broke 57 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:49.960 the news. 58 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:51.039 Well we didn't break it. 59 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:53.199 We read a tweet that broke it that Devon Vley 60 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:55.520 is on his way to the Big easy to play 61 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:58.199 for the Saints. A lot of people believe the Saints 62 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:03.159 are tanking this year to potentially select arch Manning. Obviously, 63 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:06.560 the city of New Orleans and the family of Manning 64 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:07.800 savve rich history. 65 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:10.240 No guarantee that Archie is gonna leave school. 66 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:14.599 His grandpa Archie Manning legend has set on a couple 67 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:15.080 of occasions. 68 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:16.199 He'll bea Texas next year. 69 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:19.879 Remember, Eli and Peyton both played four years of college 70 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:21.759 at Tennessee at Old Miss for going pro. 71 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:24.039 So we'll see how that goes down. 72 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:26.000 Put a lot of football in the show today from 73 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:29.840 college football in addition to some NFL. We're inching closer 74 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:31.479 and closer to the start of training camp in the 75 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:34.400 NBA and the NHL. So Jazz fans, Mammoth fans, your 76 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:38.639 time will come, Ray Ause salt Lake making a couple 77 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:41.280 of different moves. This one broke about an hour ago. 78 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:45.400 Body Hidalgo is on his way to c F Montreal. 79 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:50.199 Body has played ninety first team games for RSL, twenty 80 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:52.840 three years old. Proud Davis County boy. I think he 81 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:55.520 went to Davis High School for Fruit Heights kid. And 82 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:59.599 obviously that news follows a big piece of news that broke. 83 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:02.360 As we said good night last night. We thought it 84 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:04.719 was going to be official this morning. But Tom Bogert, 85 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:07.599 who is kind of like the Adam Schefter of MLS, 86 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:10.879 reported right after we signed off air, and we talked 87 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:11.919 to Pablo yesterday. 88 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:13.639 If you missed that conversation, the head. 89 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:17.120 Coach of RSEL joined us and teased that they had 90 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:20.360 potentially acquired a defender from Cincinnati with a lot of 91 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:24.439 net tattoos, and if you look at Cincinnati's roster, there's 92 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:29.000 really only one option. DeAndre Jedlin is on the ground 93 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:32.079 and has been signed to a long term deal by RSL. 94 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:36.560 So after acquiring DeAndre Yedlin, he plays the same position 95 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:37.360 as Body does. 96 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:38.319 Body is now. 97 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:41.120 On his way to Montreal. So do a little RSL 98 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.240 on the program today. We'll get to know this young 99 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:48.199 man who is now on the ground plane potentially right 100 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:50.519 back right away. I mean, we'll see if he plays 101 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:54.639 on Saturday against Minnesota, which really is. 102 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:56.079 A must win in a lot of ways. 103 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:59.879 We talked about that with Pablo yesterday. But DeAndre Yedlin 104 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:02.199 is a big name in the world of domestic soccer. 105 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:04.240 He played in a couple of World Cups. 106 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:08.160 He's been overseas with bubbs, including my Tottenham Spurs. He 107 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:12.360 wasn't there that long, played in Miami with Messi, and 108 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:15.160 then most recently has been with Cincinnati, and now he's 109 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:18.639 on the ground for RSL, filling a void avoid quite 110 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:21.879 frankly that's been there since Aaron Herrero was traded a 111 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:23.720 number of years ago. So we'll get to know the 112 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:27.079 new RSL player on the program today and bounce around 113 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:28.720 with a bunch of different things. The Yankees and the 114 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:31.040 Red Sox are playing, so we've got some Major League 115 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:32.800 Baseball Pennant races are heating up. 116 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:35.240 It feels like everybody continues to. 117 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:38.240 Talk about the Micah Parsons Dallas Cowboy drama. Jerry Jones 118 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:39.360 cannot keep his mouth shut. 119 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:40.240 He went on TV. 120 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:44.800 Today and basically indicated that he's I mean, if you 121 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:47.439 read between the lines with his comments, they're clearly low 122 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.399 balling the best player they have on that roster and 123 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:52.000 one of the top I don't know, ten or fifteen 124 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:55.000 players in all of the NFL, final year of his 125 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:57.240 five year rookie deal, and I get the side of 126 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:59.079 it where it's like he signed a contract on or 127 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:03.480 the contract, but ultimately not how it works when you're 128 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:05.920 as good as Michaeh Parsons is. And if I'm Jerry Jones, 129 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:08.639 I'm paying the kid, and I'm paying him yesterday. But 130 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:13.040 I speed ahead two NFL football in two weeks from today. 131 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.160 It will be the Cowboys and the Eagles on Thursday 132 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.279 Night football up in Philly and two days away from 133 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:19.800 the starter college football as well. 134 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:22.079 So a lot to do on the program. 135 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:24.879 Our first guest will be live in studio and I'm 136 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:27.040 excited for this. He is in town for the Counting 137 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:28.120 Crows concert. 138 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:30.639 I got a direct message last night from my guy 139 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:31.600 Roxy Bernstein. 140 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:35.120 Now he's also in town. I've got to be careful here. 141 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:37.000 He may be listening. If you are, Roxy, Hello, how 142 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:39.639 are you love me? Some Counting Crows? But he has 143 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:41.560 seen five for fighting on Friday. 144 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:43.079 Hell yeah, not hell ya. 145 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:45.120 But you know what, We're gonna be nice to our 146 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:46.959 guy because he's going to join us live in studio, 147 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:49.639 so we'll do some college football, We'll do some hockey 148 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:52.399 with our guy Roxy as well. Rex Hoggard from the 149 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:54.519 Golf Channel, Good day to have Rex on. I was 150 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:58.519 watching Golf Channels coverage last night of the pre match 151 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:01.879 kind of previ and Rex was highly featured. Nice of 152 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:03.319 him to give us some time. I'm sure he's very 153 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:06.279 busy today as it is a massive weekend in the 154 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:09.040 world of professional golf on the PGA Tour. Kenneth Scott, 155 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:10.000 better known as Gooby. 156 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:12.560 I knew that, There we go. I knew it. Okay, 157 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:13.560 we'll get there at the moment. 158 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:16.399 But Kenna Scott, former you Wide receiver will join us 159 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:19.800 and the newest member of ray Al salt Lake World 160 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:23.040 Cup veteran and right back that should step in and 161 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:25.839 start right away. DeAndre Jedlin will be on the show today. 162 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:27.600 I tried to convince Trey to bring him in studio. 163 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:30.920 Betray has changed because he's an angry, emotional man who 164 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:32.879 doesn't want to take care of his friends that are 165 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:36.439 on air. So DeAndre Jedlin will be a phone who 166 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:37.279 should be in studio. 167 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:38.160 Betray has changed. 168 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.720 So we got Roxy burns See and Rex Hoggard Kenna 169 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:44.720 Scott better known as Gooby, DeAndre Jedlin. They we'll do 170 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:46.639 a little sports core with our friends from Handy and 171 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.120 Handy as we are wont to do on Thursdays. Me 172 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:51.079 Spence checkets all of you, the great listeners, and that 173 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:54.360 guy Porter Larson, Oh on a Thursday afternoon. So when 174 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:58.519 you set the rundown this morning, my initial reaction was 175 00:07:58.519 --> 00:07:59.680 because you said Gooby. 176 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:00.000 On the rundown. 177 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:03.079 Yeah, I'm like, wait, who's Gooby? But I knew who 178 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:05.839 it was when you reminded me it was Kenneth Scott. 179 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:07.759 I remembered it was as a nickname. But I will 180 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:09.879 admit a moment of confusion. I'm like, he's booking some 181 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:11.160 random dude named Gooby. 182 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:14.959 Yeah, who else would Gooby be? I don't know any 183 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:18.399 other Do we know any other goobies? I'm not entirely 184 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:23.399 certain where the nickname originates from, but I. 185 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:26.000 Don't know that I know any other goobies. No, and 186 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:27.959 Dumby no Way or Gumby. 187 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:31.120 Of course I remember Gumby, that that annoying like cartoon 188 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.360 figure that was really stretchy and flex with the green guy? 189 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:34.240 Was he Green? 190 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:37.399 Well, I you know you and I have this weird 191 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:40.440 like connection. At one point we were both nicknamed Dooby. Yes, 192 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:42.320 but no, I do not know any other goobies. But 193 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:44.519 for a minute I was confused, and then you informed 194 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:46.440 me it was Kenneth Scott. We'll ask Kenneth where the 195 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:48.440 nickname came from, because I honestly don't know either. 196 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:51.320 A couple of doobies and a gooby. Now we're just 197 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:54.960 getting weird. Only one handy for sports court. Which handy 198 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:56.960 I think? Garrett today? Garrett today? 199 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:00.000 No Preston, Okay, Well, we got a busy show and 200 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:01.440 gonna be in studio. 201 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:06.679 Right Well, he's getting red Iguana, so that might usurp us. 202 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:08.200 I think he's gonna be here on time. 203 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:11.399 Though, Yeah, you know what, I'm not gonna do it. 204 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:14.240 Why do all of the media guys roll in and 205 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:15.559 immediately go to red Iguana? 206 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:18.399 I mean, red Iguana is a good spot. It's good fun. 207 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:21.080 They've done a really good job of like co opting 208 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:23.039 the thoughts of folks that are visiting to believe that, 209 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:25.039 like that's like the only good Mexican place in town. 210 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:27.000 You know who else loves himself some red Iguana is 211 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:27.720 Frank is Soola. 212 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:32.600 Well, there's a sports media thing where and it's you know, 213 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:37.519 Jason isbel right. You have to go along with it 214 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:39.919 if you're like writing about sports for some reason, I 215 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:45.559 like Jason's Bill's fine, He's not same thing. Red Iguana's fine. 216 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:50.759 What's the they have? They have one dish that's just phenomenal. 217 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:53.000 But for the most part, yeah, it's it's it's not 218 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:55.480 the only spot to get good, good Mexican food. 219 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:56.080 Insula. 220 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:58.879 There was some other artists prior to like the Hey, 221 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.000 if you're in sports media, you have to like Jason 222 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:05.519 isbel Bruce Springsteen. It was Bruce Springsteen. And by the way, fine, 223 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:09.279 I mean Bruce Springsteen. Respectfully. I've always believed to be 224 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:11.080 a tad bit overrated. I know I'm not supposed to 225 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:13.080 make fun of other people's music on the show. After 226 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.600 the air and airing of the grievances, yeah, I will 227 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:18.159 make fun of five for fighting. Okay, well we will 228 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:21.559 go deep into Roxy on that. But pick better artists 229 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:25.039 for this ride of passage gatekeeping you do for sports media, 230 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:27.480 like Bruce Springsteen and Jason isbel to your point, like 231 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:29.679 Fine scoops of Vanella ice cream? Who doesn't like vanilla 232 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:32.120 but sometimes I like chocolate sauce. You only got one 233 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:33.480 hundred years to live, Spence. 234 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:35.799 Dope, Nope, don't, don't, don't do it all right. 235 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:38.600 Roxy will be our first guest, whether it's in studio 236 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:39.440 or via the phone. 237 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:40.639 We'll have to see how that goes. 238 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:44.440 But on this Thursday afternoon, beautiful Thursday afternoon here in 239 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:47.159 Salt Lake City, courtesy of our good friends at Prize Picks, 240 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:49.120 it is Todd now for your opening tip. 241 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:50.720 Welcome to the Drive with Spence. 242 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:53.879 Check its on Utah's number one sports talk now into 243 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:56.919 the studios of ESPN seven hundred to set the scene 244 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:59.320 for the show. 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You can add some of 275 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:29.440 your other picks to it if you'd like, and uh 276 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:31.879 and win. There you go, good friends at Prize Picks. 277 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:35.960 On a Thursday afternoon, all right, two days away from 278 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:39.679 the starter College football Week zero, two weeks away from 279 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.919 the start of Pro Football Week one, nine days away 280 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:48.240 from game day for our local football teams, as Utah 281 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:51.960 will be at the Rose Bowl taking on UCLA. B 282 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:54.799 yu welcomes in Portland State for their opener, and Utah 283 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:57.919 State will kick off the Bronco Mendenhall Era with a 284 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:02.279 matchup against UTEP and still imported this before the start 285 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:05.519 of the show. You know this time of year prior 286 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:07.679 to the start of games because when we actually have 287 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:10.679 football to talk about. You kind of move away from 288 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:12.600 the hole, like, Hey, what will the CFP look like? 289 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:15.720 Are we done with conference expansion? What do the polls say? 290 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:19.399 What do some of the preseason product prognostications sound like? 291 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.159 But until we get there, it's kind of the deal 292 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.120 as far as what we talk about concerning expectations for 293 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:29.679 the landscape of college football this year, Stuart Mandel the 294 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:34.960 latest to give his preseason Big twelve predictions. Remember the 295 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:38.639 preseason Big twelve media poll was done away with this 296 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:43.279 year because it was manifested last year that none of 297 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:45.679 us know a rip about anything. And that's not breaking 298 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:48.360 news if you've been in this business. It's just a 299 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:51.600 bunch of educated guesses. And there are certain plenty of people, 300 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:53.639 certainly plenty of people in this business that throw a 301 00:13:53.639 --> 00:13:56.440 ton of dart boards at the throw a bunch of 302 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:58.320 darts at the dart board and focus on the one 303 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:03.120 that sticks. But whether it's Stuart Mandel, whether it's Josh Pate, 304 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:05.960 whether it's Joel Clad, you know, any of these college 305 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:10.879 football media members that only hone in on college football. 306 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:13.200 You know a lot of people, you know, Like with 307 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:15.200 this show, we do a little bit of everything. We 308 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:18.120 do football, we do soccer, we do basketball, do a 309 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:19.919 little baseball, do a little hockey. We try to cover 310 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:22.240 all of our local products and keep you up to 311 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:25.000 date with any national stories that we find interesting. But 312 00:14:25.480 --> 00:14:27.840 the game of media has changed so much that there 313 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:31.519 are so many media personalities that only hone in on 314 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:32.240 one thing, and. 315 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:33.600 They focus on specialties. 316 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:37.720 So I usually rely upon the opinions of people that 317 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:41.000 are focused on one thing when I try to learn 318 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:42.720 kind of what the landscape is going to look and 319 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:46.039 sound like, as opposed to somebody who's in on everything. 320 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:50.559 Like recruiting is an excellent example. Once upon a time 321 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:53.919 there really were not recruiting services that only honed in 322 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:55.960 on that. It typically was an outlet that did a 323 00:14:55.960 --> 00:14:58.840 bit of everything, and when recruiting season came, they would 324 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:01.000 try to cover that as much as it could. But 325 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:03.039 when it comes to college football, there's so many writers 326 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:07.000 or podcasters or media members that only hone in on 327 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.559 a certain thing that it's always interesting for me to 328 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:11.879 kind of kick the tires with what they think is 329 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:16.240 going to happen. And I think the consensus, at least 330 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:19.080 from my vantage point at my echo chamber, as far 331 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:22.200 as what I'm focused on is that this season, when 332 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:26.639 it comes to the Big Twelve or college football nationwide, 333 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:29.440 it is as wide open as it has ever been. 334 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:32.759 And I think that the tone and tenor of Big 335 00:15:32.759 --> 00:15:36.200 Twelve coverage continues to just sound like seven or eight 336 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:39.559 teams could potentially win this thing, and that should land 337 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:42.799 really well with fans of any team of the Big twelve. 338 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:46.480 If ultimately most experts believe seven or eight teams have 339 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:49.279 a chance to win the Big Twelve, chances are you're 340 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:50.799 a fan of one of those, and I do believe 341 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:52.879 both Utah and BYU are kind of in the mix. 342 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:55.919 Now. It has been interesting to follow. 343 00:15:57.200 --> 00:15:59.559 I won't say the fallout, but I will say the 344 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:03.200 reaction action to the announcement that Bear Bachmeyer is going 345 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:07.759 to start under center for Brigham Young. That has changed 346 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:11.039 some expectations for certain people about what BYU will be. 347 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:16.240 I don't necessarily adhere to that entirely, only because watching 348 00:16:16.279 --> 00:16:20.039 BYU a year ago, their success was not predicated. 349 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:21.200 On quarterback play. It wasn't. 350 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:24.360 I mean, did Jake make some plays here there? Sure 351 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:27.000 there's some big moments, some big plays down the stretch. 352 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:28.879 He made some big plays down the stretch. Up here 353 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:32.399 in Salt Lake when BYU beat Utah, but their success 354 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:37.000 did not rely upon the stellar player lack thereof of Jake, 355 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:39.720 of Jake Rehetz laugh. That was not eleven win team 356 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:41.799 that need a great quarterback play. That was an eleven 357 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:43.799 win team that had great play in the trenches, an 358 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:47.159 excellent defense, the best defense in the Big Twelve, number 359 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:51.039 thirteen rated overall scoring defense in the country, and it 360 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:53.440 was kind of like, as long as Jake doesn't mess 361 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:54.399 it up, we. 362 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:56.320 Have a chance to be just fine. 363 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:00.639 The one caveat here is that typically true fresh do 364 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:03.559 get their head kicked in, and I will be interested 365 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:06.720 to see how long Kale and a Rod decide to 366 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:09.720 ride with Bear if he shows some of those true 367 00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:12.279 freshmen tendencies and mistakes, because there is kind of a 368 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:16.240 narrative going around that potentially they made this selection for 369 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:18.960 the future and not the presence. You know, I don't 370 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:21.240 know if there's any any field like, Okay, we lost 371 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:24.759 our quarterback, so we've essentially we need to focus on 372 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:26.519 the future. We need to make sure our rosters an't 373 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:29.359 got in a good place and is Bear the plan 374 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:31.680 for a couple of years before Rider Lions gets back 375 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.039 from his mission. You know, the highest rated recruit the 376 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:37.039 BYUS signed in a number of years. But a lot 377 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:39.279 of people have leaned into this whole like, wait, a 378 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:40.400 second true freshman. 379 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:41.640 We don't know much about him. 380 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:45.400 Bear was not on campus until late July, like he's 381 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.000 been there for a handful of weeks. And I think 382 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:49.960 the fact that he won the job is testament to 383 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:52.680 the kid and not an indictment on the quarterback room. 384 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:56.519 But it has changed the projections and prognostications for a 385 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:58.039 lot of people that are trying to predict how the. 386 00:17:58.000 --> 00:17:59.000 Big twelve is going to go. 387 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:03.319 Seems to be I would say consensus in that group 388 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:05.880 of teams that people think could potentially win it, not 389 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:09.480 necessarily at the top. Arizona State is your favorite in Vegas, 390 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:11.400 and that, to me is the team that most people 391 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:14.759 have leaned into. But remember a year ago, Utah was 392 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:17.519 the team with the proverbial target on their back, and 393 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:20.279 this year that appears to be Kenny Dillingham's team at 394 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:24.400 Arizona State County. Crows are in town tonight at USANA 395 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:27.519 Amphitheater Gaslight Anthem opening. 396 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:29.440 That is going to be a damn good show. 397 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:33.359 And our next guest is in town only to be 398 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:36.279 in studio to do a hit with me, and actually 399 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:37.119 has run. 400 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:38.359 Into some good fortune because. 401 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:41.200 He gets to see his buddies tonight, our guy Roxy 402 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:42.480 Bernstein live and studio. 403 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:45.200 Great to see him, man, how are you? I'm great, Spence. 404 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:46.240 It's good to be here. 405 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:48.640 Good to see you face to face for sure, and 406 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:51.400 come on this time of the year. It's great to 407 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:54.519 be here, and I'm excited for tonight. It's gonna be 408 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:55.839 a great show. It's gonna be a fun couple of 409 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:58.480 days from me here insult one hundred percent. And you've 410 00:18:58.519 --> 00:18:59.400 been coming on the show. 411 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:01.519 We just turned six last week, so I feel like 412 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:03.880 we've had you on pretty much since the start of 413 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:07.000 this show with our old connections with a PAC twelve network. 414 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:09.759 But face to face is different, man, So it's good. 415 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:11.640 I don't know that i've ever even you've been in 416 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:14.279 town when I've been at games and you've been calling, 417 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:16.240 like at Huntsman or whatever. But I'm not gonna like 418 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:18.039 roll down in the middle of the first quarter and 419 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:20.119 like interrupt you and Bill Walton. 420 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:20.920 May he rest in jeap. 421 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:23.799 But it's great to actually kind of put a face 422 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:25.599 even though I've seen you on television. I'm not sure 423 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:26.599 that we've ever met face to. 424 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:27.240 Know if we have. 425 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:30.720 Yeah, because yeah, I've been here, but then you've had 426 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:32.279 other engagement when you've been out of town. 427 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:34.400 It's like two ships passing in the night. Yeah. So 428 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:38.519 finally we're physically in the same place. Yes, and it's 429 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:39.839 excellent to have you in. 430 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:42.839 So have you talked to I know Adam is your boy, 431 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:44.119 the lead singer Accounting Crows. 432 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:45.359 Does he know you'll be in the house for the 433 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:47.119 show that? Yeah, we're texting earlier day. 434 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:48.880 He knew I was coming out, Like I always, I 435 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:52.400 always trying to pick a place Spence where there's gonna 436 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:54.359 be none of our friends. Right, it's we can just 437 00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:58.160 hang out because like they played Berkeley last week, Yeah, 438 00:19:58.440 --> 00:20:01.799 and it was a complete zoo, just chaos backstage, and 439 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:04.400 I did get to spend some time with him, but 440 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:08.119 there's he's getting tugged in so many different directions. We're here, 441 00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:11.039 we can just go hang out. So literally, when I 442 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:13.920 get done here, I'm going to hop in an uber 443 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:16.400 and head out to Asana and just hang out. They 444 00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:18.440 got I think sound check at four, and I'll just 445 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:19.839 hang with at him until the show. 446 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:20.079 Tonight. 447 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:23.039 Now, the reason that's pertinent is, you know, Adam from 448 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:25.599 cal right, so he has a lot of friends in 449 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:26.599 that market. 450 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:29.960 And he grew up there and we didn't go to college. 451 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:31.720 Adam's older than we are. You and I are the 452 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:34.720 same age, but we had a bunch of mutual friends 453 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:38.480 and that's how we became friends. And we've been connected 454 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:43.240 now for I don't know thirty plus years. And he's, 455 00:20:43.319 --> 00:20:45.559 as you know, a huge sports fan, a huge cow fan, 456 00:20:45.640 --> 00:20:48.920 but he's a huge Warriors fan, Oakland A's fan. I'm 457 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:51.200 not going to say the Sacramento As, but the Oakland A's. 458 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:54.279 He was a Oakland Raiders say. He still follows the 459 00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:58.359 Raiders even though they're in Vegas. Loves hockey, He's just 460 00:20:58.519 --> 00:20:59.920 he's a huge sports fan in general. 461 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:03.079 That's and you know, as a child of the nineties, 462 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:05.359 as a proud Jet xer, the Crows have a very 463 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:07.519 special place in my heart. I've probably seen them six 464 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:10.440 or seven times. So I'm not as jealous that you're 465 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:12.640 seeing your guy to but I'm jealous you're seeing Gaslight 466 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:14.720 because I've never seen them. I've never seen them live. 467 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:17.160 I have listened them for years, but Gaslight Anthem and 468 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:19.119 you were referenced. Their lead singer is a huge sports 469 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:19.599 fan as well. 470 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:22.759 He is so Brian is a huge Niners fan growing 471 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:25.759 up in New Jersey, New York area. Like, how did 472 00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:27.680 he become a Niners fan? Well, a bunch of people 473 00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:31.440 in his family were Jets fans, and the Jets of 474 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:34.880 the Jets, right, and when he was growing up. He's 475 00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:37.559 a little younger than we are, not much, but I 476 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:41.039 think of a few years, but the Niners were dominating 477 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:43.799 with Montana and Rice and then to Steve Young and 478 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:47.839 Ronnie Lott, all those great Niners from yesteryear. They were 479 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:51.279 winning him and so it's easy to become a forty 480 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:53.599 nine er fan back then the team of the eighties 481 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:56.039 and into the nineties, and so he's been a huge 482 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:58.640 Niner fan. It was funny because they were at the 483 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:02.880 form in La last Tuesday, then played the Greek Theater 484 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:06.440 in Berkeley on Wednesday, and he asked Adam Durtz, Brian, 485 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:09.759 did are we going anywhere near Levi Stadium? 486 00:22:09.799 --> 00:22:12.200 I want to go in, Like, well, it's fifty miles away. 487 00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:16.279 But then he took Brian into the cal equipment room 488 00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:19.960 at Memorial Stadium. They rated it. He puts on his 489 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:22.559 Cal Football T shirt for the gig that night. That's 490 00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:25.240 awesome and he's like, yeah, now I'm a cow fan. 491 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:29.079 So you know, bribery kind of worked its way, but 492 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:31.559 now Cal's got a new big fan and Brian from 493 00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:32.480 a gasline anthem. 494 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:35.079 One more thing before we get into some sports. Is 495 00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:36.559 our guy Adam dating right now? 496 00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:41.000 Yes? Okay? Well, and do we approve? Yes, we do 497 00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:41.519 very much. 498 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:43.200 So now the only reason I bring it up is 499 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:46.359 my potentially my favorite bit because when you first said 500 00:22:46.359 --> 00:22:48.319 this on my show, I'm like, he's can't be serious. 501 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:51.599 Is the fact that you legitimately were beefing with Courtney 502 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:53.640 Cox because of the way she treated your friend Adam. 503 00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:56.920 Yeah, it's there's a lot there. There's a lot to 504 00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:59.559 unpack Spence in that statement there. 505 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.039 But really I'm like, he's got to be pulling my leg, 506 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:04.880 like there's no way our And you know, Adam during 507 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:06.559 the nineties had a run. 508 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:08.799 Where he dated Courtney for two years? Was there two 509 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:10.000 full years? Two years? 510 00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:10.400 Wow? 511 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:13.319 I felt like every couple of years he was moving 512 00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:15.839 on to the next like celebrity, right, I mean, because 513 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:18.000 he for a while he did okay for himself, but 514 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:20.519 for a while, rock Syed The Counting Crows were potentially 515 00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:22.519 the biggest band in America for about four or five 516 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:23.480 years in the nineties. 517 00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:25.680 When they were in that conversation they burst out of 518 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:26.000 the scene. 519 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:29.680 Was almost like overnight now they Adam struggled for a while. 520 00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:31.519 He didn't make it till his late twenties, which is 521 00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:33.680 kind of a rare story for somebody to make it 522 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:37.319 that late. But when mister Jones and the album August 523 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:42.359 and everything after, it just took off and it exploded 524 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:44.640 to the point where he had to get out of Berkeley. 525 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:47.599 Like he was living in Berkeley still and he had 526 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:51.559 to move because it was just he was getting oversaturated 527 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:53.839 in his front yard. People were coming to hang out. 528 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:55.599 His parents still lived there for a long time, but 529 00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:58.359 Adam moved to la And then of course Recovering the 530 00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:01.400 Satellites was the second album, a great follow up, but 531 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:05.640 it just amazing over the span of a month how 532 00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:06.880 much the band exploded. 533 00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:09.680 It must have been so cool as a friend to 534 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:13.559 watch that success, because you know, we only hear about 535 00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:16.480 it when they are in our consciousness, when they become famous. 536 00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:18.640 We rarely see the backwork, and it sounds like Adam 537 00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:20.799 was probably grinding on smaller. 538 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:23.319 Tours for years with other bands. That's so cool. 539 00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:25.480 Like he was at a band called the Himalayans, where 540 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:28.920 if you kind of google that, there's the original version 541 00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:32.400 of round Here, which is very different from the one 542 00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:35.039 Counting Crows perform. Yeah, but he brought it over and 543 00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:38.319 they tweaked it, and it was on August and everything after. 544 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:42.279 But like the Himalayans, it was almost more acid rock 545 00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:46.160 than it was what it became. And it's interesting to 546 00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:47.640 hear the difference between the two. 547 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:49.119 That's really cool. That's really cool. 548 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:52.960 All right, let's start with I think most everyone including 549 00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:56.480 me around here, we know you from the Fact twelve network, right, 550 00:24:56.599 --> 00:24:58.759 and that obviously I don't know if you've heard that's 551 00:24:58.759 --> 00:24:59.519 not a thing anymore. 552 00:24:59.680 --> 00:24:59.920 Really. 553 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:04.079 Yeah, So your full time, your full time with the ESPNS. Yeah, 554 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.640 for some reason, I just thought you were like contracted 555 00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:08.440 out all over the place. But your full time with 556 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:11.519 the ESPN. So what does the Roxy Bernstein fall calendar 557 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:11.880 look like? 558 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:14.680 So I've got some college football lined up. I've got 559 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:21.640 Arizona State's opener coming up on August thirtieth. Then I 560 00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:24.000 jump back into Major League Baseball labor day, I'll be 561 00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:27.880 in Detroit for the Mets and the Tigers. I have 562 00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:32.160 a family situation going, our family thing down in La. 563 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:34.559 So I'm not working college football week two, but then 564 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:38.680 week three I'm jumping back in and I've got TCU 565 00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:42.119 on September thirteenth, and I'll be doing the first two 566 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.079 rounds of Major League Baseball playoffs more than likely National 567 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.000 League Wildcard and Division Series, which I've been doing for 568 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:50.599 them for years and can't wait for the playoffs and 569 00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:52.160 down the stretch. And I'll do a number of Pennant 570 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:53.960 Race games for ESPN Radio as well. 571 00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:57.960 So I always have almost like a reverent respect for 572 00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:01.440 people like you, because you know, another front of the show. 573 00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:03.680 I an eagle, yeah, who can do anything. 574 00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:07.200 And you do hockey, you do basketball, you do football, 575 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:08.200 you do baseball. 576 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:10.759 Is there one that you prefer? 577 00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:14.119 And what are the challenges of bouncing back and forth 578 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:14.880 between sports? 579 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.160 The way you do The pacing is very different bence 580 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:21.519 in terms of baseball. For example, Hockey and basketball are 581 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:25.680 so quick, but baseball has that deliberate pace to it, 582 00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:29.640 and the back and forth, unless you're prepared mentally, can 583 00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:30.559 be a little different. 584 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:30.839 Yep. 585 00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:34.519 And like I'll be going from football to baseball a 586 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:39.640 couple of days later. But I love the versatility that 587 00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:44.599 I get to deal with and the variety of sports. Like, Okay, 588 00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:46.519 you have to have a certain amount of bandwidth to 589 00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:49.519 be able to comprehend everything and remember all that story, 590 00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:52.480 but I follow it religiously, like I, you know, I'm 591 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:56.480 so invested in football, in basketball, where most of my 592 00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:59.799 relationships are, but major League Baseball I've worked for a 593 00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:03.200 long long time and the NHL. It's funny when ESPN 594 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.319 got the NHL package back, I hadn't done a hockey 595 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:09.480 game in probably twenty years, Like I worked for the 596 00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:13.799 santals A Sharks years ago, okay, and then my pat 597 00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:16.720 took me in a different route. But then when ESPN 598 00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:18.880 got the NHL package back, I'm like, hey, you know, 599 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:21.880 I do hockey, and they threw me on some games 600 00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:25.880 and I've been part of their stable of coverage since. 601 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:28.880 This will be what now four years now that ESPN 602 00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:31.960 has had the NHL package of that seven year contract 603 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:34.160 and at least three more years and we'll see where 604 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:36.599 it goes. But it seems that ESPN's invested in hockey 605 00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:37.920 and they're gonna stick with it. 606 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:40.960 Is there a endgame that you have in mind, because 607 00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:45.319 it's you know, like Joe Buck did baseball for years, 608 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:47.079 and he did a little bit of everything for years, 609 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.359 and then he's the voice of Mounted that football, and 610 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:51.599 so I would imagine if you got the offer to 611 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:53.119 be the voice of Mount on that football, that'd be 612 00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:55.599 a good endgame for you. But I have a little 613 00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:58.119 bit of a layered question because you are a utility 614 00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:01.359 guy for ESPN, and you know, it's important to have 615 00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:05.519 a comprehensive, complete skill set while you're working your way 616 00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:07.960 up to whatever that endgame looks like for you. I 617 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:11.079 wonder if you have that, you know, that vision in 618 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:13.599 your mind about what the endgame would be, and what's 619 00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:15.480 it like to kind of be the guy that ESPN 620 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:18.279 relies on for a number of different job opportunities. 621 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:21.359 I'm so happy with where I'm at now. That's cool. 622 00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:26.920 ESPN has been great to me, and for example, they 623 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:29.240 let me work for the PAC twelve network. Yes, I 624 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:31.200 was fully invested in the PAC twelve as you know, 625 00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:34.400 and I'm born and raised, grew up on it, and 626 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.799 it was gut wrenching when everything came crashing to a 627 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.920 halt like it did. But ESPN has been fabulous to 628 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.799 me and my family, and I love that they let 629 00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.359 me do all these different sports and they give me 630 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:51.519 that freedom, that flexibility. I don't know if there's like 631 00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:53.759 a Okay, I have to have this job or that game, 632 00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:57.400 or this is my end game. Right now, you know 633 00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:59.680 what I do it. I was doing Major League baseball 634 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.440 in my Miami. I worked for the Marlins for three years, 635 00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:04.240 and my wife and I did not want to raise 636 00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:07.799 our kids there. We were determined to come back out west. 637 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:09.440 And I grew up and born and raised in the 638 00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:12.960 Bay Area. My wife's from Santa Barbara, but we wanted 639 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:16.880 to raise the kids somewhere out west, and coming back 640 00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:19.039 home was a natural fit. I was still doing radio 641 00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:21.119 in the Bay Areas, doing cow games on the radio. 642 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:23.720 Even when I was doing baseball in Miami, I was 643 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:27.599 by coastal, Oh, Okay, And so that made it tricky, 644 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:30.720 especially come spring training and heading into March Madness. 645 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:34.480 Sure, but I. 646 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.519 If some opportunity presented itself, yeah, I'd take a look 647 00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:39.440 at it. But right now I'm thrilled where I'm at. 648 00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:41.680 I just sent my oldest off to college. She's a 649 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.400 freshman at TCU. Very nice and my son has just 650 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.160 started his sophomore year of high school. So we're in 651 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:51.319 Trench in the Bay Area for now. Doesn't mean I'll 652 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:52.079 be there forever. 653 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.960 Yeah, what if like a team came calling, Like is 654 00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:57.319 that the type of dream gig? 655 00:29:57.559 --> 00:29:57.720 You know? 656 00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:00.519 Baseball, basketball, football? I guess it depends on the team, 657 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:01.480 depends on the market. 658 00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:06.000 Yeah, And look, I've had opportunities, and I've looked at him, 659 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.359 and I've talked with teams, and some have been pretty 660 00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:09.160 close to happening. 661 00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:13.200 But it's. 662 00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:16.759 It's tough with the family because look, it was just 663 00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:18.680 me Spence or just my wife. 664 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:19.880 Yeah, it's different. 665 00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.279 The kids are in Trench and that's all they know, 666 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.440 and to rock their world and turn it upside down 667 00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:27.279 would be very difficult for me to do. 668 00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:27.599 Yeah. 669 00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:30.519 I was eleven when we moved back east when my 670 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.960 father took the job in New York with MSG, And 671 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:36.039 it was a hard thing, man like when when you're 672 00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:38.960 uprooted from your friends, and certainly there's a little bit 673 00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:40.680 of a culture shock when you go from Salt Lake 674 00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:43.759 City to New York, you know, and then back again too. 675 00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:46.119 And my family's still back east. But I want to 676 00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:48.200 ask you about Bill Walton. You're wearing a shirt that 677 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:50.839 says Walton on it, and you know one of the 678 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:53.799 You know, met Bill several times over the years. But 679 00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:58.000 when my father retired from Madison Square Garden about a 680 00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.119 week after, I was home visiting from colleg and he 681 00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:03.200 called me and said, Spence, come down in my office 682 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.720 listening to this. So Bill Walton had left him like 683 00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:09.119 a five minute voicemail and it was just like I'm 684 00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.680 doing the chef's kiss thing. It was quintessential Bill Walton 685 00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:16.160 for five minutes, non sequiturs, from the Knicks to the 686 00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:19.240 beauty of the Wasatch Mountains where our family's from. Like 687 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:23.599 and it I mean I very much from a distance. 688 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.200 I didn't know him like you did. Really loved him 689 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.079 in a way that you know if you're a sports 690 00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.240 fan and appreciate the way he approached the craft. I 691 00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:33.680 know he wasn't for everybody, but that's all right. You know, 692 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.440 our job, it's not unlike a band, it's not unlike 693 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:37.079 Counting Crows. 694 00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:38.200 Discretion is important. 695 00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:42.359 Sometimes the albums are great, sometimes the songs don't land whatever. 696 00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:44.400 Everybody has their own preference. 697 00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:47.079 But what was it like working with him side by 698 00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.480 side and then getting to know the man outside of 699 00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:50.319 just the broadcaster. 700 00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.920 It was awesome. Bill was the greatest, he really was. 701 00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:58.240 And I think of Bill every day, and you know, 702 00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:01.839 I honor him wearing the shirt pretty often. It became 703 00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.799 a staple of my wardrobe. 704 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:05.720 But just his. 705 00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.799 Impact on me, like we became friends. And I remember 706 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:13.519 the first game we did together, and it was we 707 00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:16.200 were doing an n game at the University of San 708 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:22.640 Francisco years ago and it was LSU at USF. First off, 709 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:26.480 Bill was ecstatic to be there because Bill Russell was 710 00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:30.200 his hero and that's where Bill Russell went to college, 711 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:33.000 won the national championships with the Dons back in the fifties, 712 00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:37.720 and so he was super excited. He's always extremely excited 713 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:39.920 to be anywhere he's at, that's the best thing about him. 714 00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:43.359 But he was really really pumped up to be on 715 00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.920 the hilltop at USF the Bill Russell statue and all that. 716 00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:49.319 But this was the first game that I was working 717 00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:51.079 with him, so it was a little nervous. And I 718 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:57.240 knew about Bill obviously, and as custom with Bill, we 719 00:32:57.279 --> 00:32:59.799 don't talk during the day. He tries to keep it 720 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:02.680 fresh and organic where we go on the air. He 721 00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:05.319 did introduce himself to me at shoot around. I'd met 722 00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:08.200 Bill before, but you know, Bill plays the joke what's 723 00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:08.799 your name again? 724 00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:11.839 I mean that was synonymous with Bill. 725 00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.799 And so we're about thirty seconds away from going on 726 00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:18.160 air and doing our open for the game, and Bill 727 00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:21.440 looks at me, takes out his gum and he says, 728 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.079 what's your name again? I go Roxy, He goes roxy, 729 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:28.200 I'll try not to get you fired. And then literally 730 00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.799 we're on the air, and that was the start of 731 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:33.480 a friendship. We went to dinner that night, crazy enough, 732 00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:35.319 and they hate Ashbury right down the street from the 733 00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:38.559 University of San Francisco, which Bill probably spent many nights 734 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:42.480 with the dead in that area. And it was the 735 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.039 start of a great friendship and still his day. I 736 00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.799 text his wife Laurie all the time, text one of 737 00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:50.799 his son, Luke, because we work in kind of the 738 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:55.319 same circles. He's in the NBA. But yeah, now a 739 00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:56.559 day goes by, I don't think of Bill. 740 00:33:56.799 --> 00:34:00.319 Is Luke still coaching? You got he's an assistance. Yeah, 741 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.319 that's right. You know, it's interesting. 742 00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:05.880 Before my father actually took the job of the Jazz 743 00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:08.119 when I was a pup. We lived in Boston, he 744 00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:11.679 was with Bain And so my first NBA experiences were 745 00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:14.719 the Celtics of the eighties and Bill was the sixth 746 00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:18.079 man on a Celtic team that won the championship. So 747 00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:22.320 I'm not old enough to remember Bill Walton like prime 748 00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:26.519 Bill Walton with the Blazers. But if you watch the documentary, 749 00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:29.719 if you listen to basketball historians, it feels like if 750 00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.199 Bill Walton would have just been able to stay healthy 751 00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:35.480 and play at that level consistently, we would be talking 752 00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.000 about him like the way we talk about Larry Bird 753 00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.079 or the way we talk about Magic Johnson, like he 754 00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:45.000 truly had a career arc that if he would have 755 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:48.360 continued and not had the myriad of injuries they plagued 756 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:51.320 him quite frankly his entire life, he could have potentially 757 00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:53.480 been one of the greatest basketball players of all time? 758 00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:55.360 Is that fair to say? Oh, it's fair to say. 759 00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:57.519 I mean, he was the MVP in What's seventy eight 760 00:34:57.639 --> 00:34:59.840 and I'm like you, I didn't. I'm not old enough 761 00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:03.000 to appreciate him from his prime. And I remember that 762 00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.199 the broken down Bill that did come off the bench. 763 00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.400 It was a key part of that Celtics championship team 764 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.280 in eighty six for sure, But the stories that I hear, 765 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:15.000 for example, from my uncle that did. He's a retired 766 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:18.280 doctor now, but he was doing his residency at UCLA 767 00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:21.000 when Bill was playing there, so he got in. He 768 00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:23.719 is a huge basketball fan. He went to every game 769 00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:26.159 the Bruins played and got to see Bill play every 770 00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:31.599 UCLA game of his career. And just how well Bill 771 00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:36.840 changed the poet really the game of basketball from the 772 00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:40.960 center position because with his outlet passes, his ability to 773 00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:44.639 see the floor, it was unheard of for somebody at 774 00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.159 that stage that big to be able to do what 775 00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:50.039 he did. Like people marvel at what Jokicic does now, 776 00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:54.480 well Bill was doing that forty plus years ago and 777 00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:57.159 probably even better than Jokic is doing even though Jokic 778 00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:01.159 is an unbelievable player. But Bill went twenty one for 779 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.920 twenty two from the floor in a Final four game. 780 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:05.000 Yeah, incredible. 781 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.679 You know, it's funny you bring bring up the Yokic 782 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.159 thing because when Jokic kind of burst on the scene. 783 00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:13.760 Unfortunately for our show, Jeff Van Gundy is back coaching 784 00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:15.360 in the NBA, so I can't get him on. But 785 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:17.840 when he was with you know, ESPN and NBC. I 786 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:20.480 had him on almost every week, and Jeff was the 787 00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:23.199 first one when I asked him, like, does Yolkicic remind 788 00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:25.360 you of anybody? Said yeah, Bill Walton. Bill Walton was 789 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.440 like the original of what Jokic is doing. Now let 790 00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.800 me so we don't have a ton of time. I 791 00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:33.800 want to make sure and it's good you're going out 792 00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:36.000 there early. Let me just say this to you, Sana. Yeah, 793 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.599 and it's good you're taking maneuver parking and traffic out 794 00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:40.000 there can get wild, so I want to make sure 795 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:40.480 I let. 796 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:42.400 You go on time. So let's move over here. 797 00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:46.960 Talking about this yesterday the current state of college football. 798 00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:50.159 So Brian Rolap, who's the new commissioner or CEO on 799 00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.639 the PGA Tour, Friend of the show. We've had Brian 800 00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.719 on spend twenty two years in the NFL. For the 801 00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:59.360 first time, he spoke yesterday about his vision for the 802 00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:03.280 future of the p and I thought it was just dynamite. 803 00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:06.159 He talked about innovation. I think he said innovation. 804 00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:09.800 Five or six times, and I juxtaposed that to change 805 00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:12.119 for change sake, which is what I feel like college 806 00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:14.480 football continues to do. So the Big Ten floats out 807 00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:17.760 this twenty eighteen playoff model, and you're like, dude, yes, 808 00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:19.840 I'm a grown up. I understand that means more revenue, 809 00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:22.280 but there's a limit. You could have one hundred teams 810 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.159 in the playoffs too, and you would make more money. 811 00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:27.440 But at some point, if you do away with what I. 812 00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:30.280 Perceive makes college football special, and that is the prescient 813 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:33.880 nature of every weekend, the urgent nature of every game, 814 00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:37.400 certainly conference games. You kill conference championship games, you do 815 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:41.320 away with the urgency of every single weekend. I do 816 00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:44.000 think you're in danger of diluting your product a little bit. 817 00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:47.079 And I guess the bottom line is there's nobody in charge. 818 00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:49.679 So the Big ten knows that they can float out 819 00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:52.440 whatever idea they want. So can the SEC and say, look, 820 00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:53.920 we're the Big ten. You're gonna have to deal with 821 00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:57.119 our ideas. Are you concerned at all about where we 822 00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:00.079 find ourselves now or in the future of college football? 823 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.400 Or is it simply saturdays in the fall are always 824 00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:03.840 going to feel the way they do to people that 825 00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:05.079 love to consume the product. 826 00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:07.400 I think for some, but that could be a small 827 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:13.599 percentage spence of the traditionalist in college football. I'm with you, 828 00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.519 worried about it. It's going to get diluted if you 829 00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:22.440 do expand that greatly. Just the way college athletics is going. 830 00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.880 I've been worried for a while. And now that they're 831 00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:29.280 trying to get a hold of the nil model and 832 00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:33.039 make it a revenue share. It's all fine and dandy 833 00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:36.320 if you take it for what it is, but there's 834 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.880 still going to be people trying to circumvent it. And 835 00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:41.920 are we going to go back to the old days 836 00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:44.840 where you're getting paid under the table, And because now 837 00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.280 there's this clearinghouse, if you have an NIL deal, you 838 00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:49.159 bring it to them and they have to approve it 839 00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:53.039 for anything over six hundred dollars. There is so much 840 00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:56.519 in the game of college athletics that's concerning and with 841 00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:57.920 this revenue share model, for. 842 00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.880 Example, well, what's going to happen to the Olympic sports? Right? 843 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:04.039 Okay, football and basketball, they're going to be fine, But 844 00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.960 what happens to baseball, to volleyball, to soccer and all 845 00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:11.960 these great athletes that could be losing opportunities. And that's 846 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.559 something that's troubling to me, is the potential for all 847 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:20.000 these sports to be pushed away and the revenue share model. Look, 848 00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:23.000 I firmly believe the student athletes should be paid. I 849 00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:27.119 do because they're out there drawn eyeballs and these large 850 00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:31.280 television contracts or they're a big part of why the 851 00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:34.280 Big ten and the SEC and the ACC are making 852 00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.679 the Big twelve are making all this money. But at 853 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:42.639 some point I'm worried for the Olympic sports that things 854 00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.599 could be pushed aside and we could be looking at 855 00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:48.199 a real cut down model of what college athletics is. 856 00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:52.119 Mark Harlin on Saturday of last week addressed some Utah 857 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:56.079 alumni and Utah boosters. Utah athletics reported like an eighteen 858 00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:59.239 million dollar loss last year. Final two years in the 859 00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.159 Pac twelve they made little bit of cash couple mill 860 00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:03.960 two or three, And Mark talked about the reserve they have. 861 00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.159 The president of the university right now is a brilliant businessman. 862 00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:08.840 His name is Taylor Randall. He's the dean of the 863 00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:11.840 business school before taking over as president. So I think 864 00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:14.599 the athletic department's in a fine spot. But I do 865 00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:17.519 believe there's this narrative that every school is like printing money, 866 00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.559 and you know, I think Utah, as they move forward 867 00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:23.559 in the Big twelve will you know, inch closer and closer. 868 00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:24.480 To maybe being in the red. 869 00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:28.920 But did I read that Cal is considering doing something 870 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:30.440 drastic with their football program? 871 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:33.920 Okay, no, no, no, that was somebody just threw it out 872 00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:36.519 there to be a troll it. It was an Oregon 873 00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:39.519 State fan that did that. Any problem with Twitter, it 874 00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:42.480 took off. There is Ron Rivera is now the general 875 00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:45.880 manager for Cal football. He reports directly to the chancellor. 876 00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:49.920 He circumvents the ad they are firmly committed to football, 877 00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.760 that they're determined to be successful and that's why they 878 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:53.519 brought in wrong. 879 00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:55.599 Good good good to hear and you know, it's it's 880 00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:58.679 interesting to hear Mark talk about, you know, the plans 881 00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:00.880 with the rev share. Every school now has twenty point 882 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:05.880 five mil. That doesn't include nil. But the other element 883 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.760 that I and I've always said this, college football to 884 00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:10.920 me has always been the hardest sport to predict, no 885 00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:14.760 matter what. Now it's even more so because most every 886 00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.519 school has at least thirty to forty new players. Bronco 887 00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:20.519 Menanol has eighty new players in Logan for Utah State. 888 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:22.840 It just makes it impossible to kind of predict the 889 00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.639 landscape of what college football is going to look like 890 00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:28.400 because of the changeover. When it comes to the Big Twelve, 891 00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:31.519 it feels like once again, seven or eight teams could 892 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.039 be in the mix. You know Utah football, you know 893 00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.079 the program. Well, what gives you faith that year two 894 00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:38.840 in the Big twelve will look a little bit better 895 00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:39.960 than your one did? 896 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:40.480 For the youths. 897 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:43.800 Kyle Whittingham is number one, Yeah, just because of the 898 00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:47.559 culture he's established, and I know it's been a couple 899 00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:51.559 of rough years, but the consistency throughout his career gives 900 00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:54.960 me optimism that Utah can push and make a run 901 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:57.559 in the Big Twelve. Look, nobody thought Arizona State was 902 00:41:57.599 --> 00:41:59.280 going to do what it did last year, picked last 903 00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:02.599 and they won it, and we're in the College Football Playoff. Now, 904 00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:04.679 all of a sudden, they're in the crosshairs. 905 00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:04.880 Right. 906 00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:08.360 Everybody is trying circling Arizona State on their schedule because 907 00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:10.599 of what they did last year and what Kenny Dillingham 908 00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:14.880 has done is phenomenal. But you know, I think Kyle's 909 00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:16.679 happy if you talk and just kind of lay in 910 00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:18.679 the weeds and people will look other places and he 911 00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:21.199 can just go about his business. But when they have 912 00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:24.360 the physicality upfront, which they do on both sides of 913 00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:27.719 the ball. That's where it's established for a Kyle Whittingham team. 914 00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:31.920 So for me, in my perspective, the Cam Rising soap 915 00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:35.320 opera's gone now right for years was hovering over the program. 916 00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:37.000 Is he going to play? Is he not going to play? 917 00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:40.159 What's going on with Cam? You've moved on from that, 918 00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:44.000 which I think makes it easier for everybody to operate 919 00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:45.119 up up the hill. 920 00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:45.960 Yeah. 921 00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:48.679 No, for sure, there's no ambiguity about who's under center. 922 00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:51.000 It's Devin dan Pierre, who's in New Mexico transfer and 923 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:54.719 they bring his offensive coordinator, Jason Beck, a running back 924 00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:56.480 and a wide receiver that played in New Mexico a 925 00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:59.519 year ago. I do think there's a little trepidation about 926 00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.960 taking this step up in competition from the Mountain West 927 00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:04.599 to the Big twelve. But we saw Cam Wore do 928 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:06.760 it right and we've seen other players do it as well. 929 00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.480 What experience, if at all, do you have with the 930 00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:14.840 BYU Utah rivalry. I've done the basketball game on you've 931 00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:17.440 done the basketball game on TV a few times. 932 00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:20.280 One of my funnier moments we were doing the game 933 00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:24.280 down at the Marriott Center and Bill and I did 934 00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:27.079 the game. It was back in December. This was years 935 00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:30.280 ago when BYU was still in the WCC, and of 936 00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.239 course the youths were in the PAC twelve and Larry 937 00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:36.199 Stoviac was coaching Utah and I don't even think I 938 00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.760 think it was still Dave Rose was coaching BYU at 939 00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:42.280 that time, and so I couldn't get into town. First off, 940 00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:44.519 the night before to have dinner with Bill, So I 941 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:46.920 set him up to have dinner with Tom Holmo b 942 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:50.519 a d at b YA. And first off, Tom grew 943 00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.360 up in La a huge UCLA fan and a huge 944 00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:56.880 Bill Walton fan, So this was like geeked out night 945 00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:59.119 for Tom. He was so excited to have dinner with Bill. 946 00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:01.840 I was doing a game the night before. I couldn't 947 00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.079 pick up my phone. But Tom calls and leaves me 948 00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.480 a voicemail and he says, I understand it. Now I 949 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:11.000 get it because Bill at dinner was peppering Tom with 950 00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:15.039 question after question after question about the Provost City Library, 951 00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:18.199 the faculty at BYU, the campus, everything he wanted to know. 952 00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.360 And I did tell Tom, be careful what you tell Bill, 953 00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:24.239 because it's a chance no matter what you say, we'll 954 00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:26.599 get on the air, and the next night, of course, 955 00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:30.199 he just rattles off all these answers that Tom gave 956 00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:32.440 him and all the information he's able to dig up. 957 00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:36.800 But we were doing it on camera and some BYU 958 00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.039 student walked over with like a solo red cup and 959 00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:42.960 handed it to Bill and he drank it. And I'm like, Bill, 960 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.400 did you know that guy? He goes, no, And you 961 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.039 took a drink from somebody in a cup? He goes, yeah, 962 00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:49.719 it was thirsty to look good. I go, well, if 963 00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:51.800 you're gonna do it a place anywhere in this country, 964 00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:53.679 BYU is probably your safest place to do it. 965 00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:54.880 I was gonna say, was it milk? 966 00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:55.559 You know? 967 00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:57.559 Because it was some punch, That's all. I'll say. 968 00:44:57.599 --> 00:44:59.239 Fair enough, fair enough, all right, before I let you 969 00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:01.960 get out of here and it gets the show. We 970 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:04.119 are a hockey city now, yeah, And you were one 971 00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:06.199 of the first guests that I thought of Devon as 972 00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:07.440 soon as the announcement came down. 973 00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:09.360 It's no longer the Utah Hockey Club. It is the 974 00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:10.119 Utah Mammoth. 975 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:12.440 They were right in the mix for a wild card 976 00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:14.719 until the final couple of weeks. They've made a couple 977 00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:18.280 of good acquisitions in the offseason. What should we expect 978 00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:20.480 is it? Do you think playoffs are reasonable for our 979 00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:21.400 hockey team this year? 980 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:23.920 They've got to stay healthy this year, yep, Spence, especially 981 00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:25.960 on the blue line. The injuries that they dealt with, 982 00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:30.400 whether it was Jersey last year, they were beaten up 983 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:32.440 on the blue line, missing Marino for as long as 984 00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:36.960 they did, and it was it made it tough for them. 985 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.039 And then with Conning or minn atol lineup with his 986 00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:45.039 stuff going on off the ice. But I do believe 987 00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:48.199 that their talent is there. Certainly, Keller made a huge 988 00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:51.119 jump last year and has turned into one of the 989 00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:54.519 elite players. I think you make a tray with Buffalo 990 00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:56.800 to get a twenty five goal scorer, which just don't 991 00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:59.239 grow on trees. Okay, you gave up kessel Ring, which 992 00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:02.119 is a I'd like. There's a nice piece to have, sure, 993 00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:04.679 But the one thing that worries me for them, Do 994 00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:06.039 I think they have the talent to do it? 995 00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:06.800 Yes? I do. 996 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:11.039 The division is so tough when you look at Colorado 997 00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.280 in Dallas and those two teams you start there with 998 00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:16.960 Winnipeg and then Saint Louis made that push last year. 999 00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:22.000 Central Division is hard, and unfortunately, I think they're in 1000 00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.800 the toughest division. I'm not saying they can't do it 1001 00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:26.280 and get to a wild card to finish in the 1002 00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:30.480 top three, but they need things to go right, and 1003 00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:32.679 they can't have the barrage of injuries they had a 1004 00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:33.079 year ago. 1005 00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:36.599 Well said, all right, favorite Counting Crows opener and closer. 1006 00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:38.079 What do you want to see him do tonight? 1007 00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:42.840 Well, I kind of know you. No, no, I don't, 1008 00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.519 because they make it up like it's not all of 1009 00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:47.920 a sudden, this same generic set list every. 1010 00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:50.280 Night, but you'll know the set list prior to the show. 1011 00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:54.480 Roxy, jeez, I got a time my bathroom breaks properly 1012 00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:55.199 and if I have to. 1013 00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:57.440 Go fair enough. So can I ask you what they're 1014 00:46:57.480 --> 00:46:58.599 opening with tonight? I don't know. 1015 00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.239 I really don't know what they're opening with. It seems 1016 00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:07.599 on this tour they have been opening with the new song, 1017 00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:13.679 Oh Tulsa Spaceman Tulsa. Okay, that's a possibility. I'm not 1018 00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:17.079 saying that's gonna happen, but it's funny. I had him 1019 00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:19.280 as he's evolved over the years, realized there's about five 1020 00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:21.239 songs I have to play every night. 1021 00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:23.360 For sure, and I would say more than that to 1022 00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:23.840 be honest. 1023 00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:27.360 Yeah, but he's also trying to push the new album. Yeah, 1024 00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:33.280 but mister Jones, Rain King Long December and King hanging 1025 00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:37.519 around round here. Those are songs omaha. I mean, those 1026 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.360 are songs that are probably gonna be I'm guessing. I 1027 00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:42.400 don't know, but they could be in the set list today. 1028 00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.199 All right, man, Well we'll set you loose. Thanks so 1029 00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.599 much for brother enjoy the show. Okay, all right, special 1030 00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:51.760 thanks to Roxie Bernstein from ESPN for rolling in live 1031 00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:54.719 in studio today prior to his trip out to You 1032 00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:58.159 Sanna to see his buddy Adam Dirts and count and Crows. 1033 00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:00.920 We're gonna bring in Kenna Scott's former Utah Wide receiver 1034 00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:04.960 the newest member of RSL DeAndre Yedlin Sports Court. 1035 00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:05.599 Later on as well. 1036 00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:08.320 But the eyes of the world of professional golf on 1037 00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:12.199 the PGA Tour are on East Lake in Atlanta, where 1038 00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:14.480 Russell Henley is now your leader at eight under par 1039 00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:16.880 A lot of players going low. Always fun to catch 1040 00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:18.760 up with our next guest from the Golf Channel, Rex 1041 00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:21.519 Hoggard on a Thursday afternoon, Rex, how are you sir? 1042 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:22.920 Amy? 1043 00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:24.920 Thursday after and in Atlanta. 1044 00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:25.360 I'm great. 1045 00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:25.800 How are you. 1046 00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:27.800 I'm good. I really appreciate the time. 1047 00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.559 So tell me about the conditions in the track and 1048 00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:32.840 what's allowing these players to go as low as they've 1049 00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:33.719 been going so far. 1050 00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:36.360 Hey, it's funny. We were told to expect in The 1051 00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:39.000 PGA Tour announced this a few weeks ago that they 1052 00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:41.079 wanted to make this a more difficult test. They wanted 1053 00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:42.679 to add a little bit more risk reward. It was 1054 00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:44.800 something that the fans told them that they wanted to 1055 00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:47.360 see at the Tour Championship. So the golf course had 1056 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:49.199 been sort of set up a little bit different this year. 1057 00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:52.000 I think the expectation was to maybe create a little 1058 00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:54.239 bit more of a challenge. That's certainly not the case, 1059 00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:56.239 as you pointed out seven under his leading. I think 1060 00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:57.079 at least half the. 1061 00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:58.280 Field is under par. 1062 00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:00.440 And it has everything to do with if you've ever 1063 00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:04.000 been in the South in the summertime, pretty much rains 1064 00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:06.199 every single night. So it's just soft. And I don't 1065 00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:08.559 care what you do to a golf course. If players 1066 00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:10.599 have irons in their hands from the fairway and the 1067 00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:12.360 greens are soft, they're going to be aggressive. And that's 1068 00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:13.440 what we're seeing today. 1069 00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:14.079 No doubt. 1070 00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:17.039 So Russell Henley is now at eight under, he's your leader, 1071 00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:20.639 he's through seventeen. But we got Colin Morikala, Patrick Candley 1072 00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:24.800 and Justin Thomas in the clubhouse at six hundred par 1073 00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:26.360 after carding sixty fours. 1074 00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:29.599 What does the weekend ahead hold? 1075 00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:31.440 Are we going to see conditions change or do you 1076 00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:33.360 think we're going to continue to see low scores. 1077 00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:35.920 I think it's gonna be low scores. I think actually 1078 00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:38.280 they moved up two times for tomorrow because there's some 1079 00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:41.360 anticipated storms in the afternoon. There's storms around the area 1080 00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:43.519 right now. Again it's sort of just rent and repeat 1081 00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:45.360 in the south, so I don't think the golf course 1082 00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:47.760 will have an opportunity to dry out. But I would 1083 00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:51.119 look more towards just the conversation about what has changed 1084 00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:54.480 about this event this year, where we know in previous 1085 00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:57.280 years they've tried to do different formats, and in recent 1086 00:49:57.360 --> 00:49:59.800 years it's been something called starting shows, which is simply 1087 00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:02.679 gay a lead to whoever the points leader was coming 1088 00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:05.000 into this week, and then incrementally they work their way 1089 00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.639 down on the points list until you got to number thirty. 1090 00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:09.280 But they got rid of that this year. I think 1091 00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:11.880 the Tour finally realized it's kind of silly, kind of confusing. 1092 00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:14.960 Even Scotty Scheffler said it, he didn't quite understand why 1093 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:17.079 they were doing it. So I think the difference this 1094 00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:20.119 year will be that the winner and all thirty players 1095 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:21.920 started it. Even part the winner went not only when 1096 00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.000 the Tour Championship but the FedEx Cup, and we haven't 1097 00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:26.480 really had that in at least a decade, so that's 1098 00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:27.239 kind of compelling. 1099 00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:28.559 Do you like the change? 1100 00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:30.840 I mean, I always found it hokey, and I'm certainly 1101 00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:34.280 no expert like you are, but this feels any reference 1102 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:38.400 Scotty's comments about the new format, which he prefers. Does 1103 00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:41.400 it feel like it's a consensus that most people do 1104 00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:45.159 appreciate and like this new format now, Rex, I think. 1105 00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:48.000 There's simplicity of this. The players appreciate, certainly the fans 1106 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:49.760 I appreciate. You're not trying to figure out the mass 1107 00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:52.400 on Thursday afternoon when Scotty's teeing off at ten under par. 1108 00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:54.920 That doesn't make sense to a lot of golf fans. 1109 00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:57.760 I will say it feels like a transition, Yere. I 1110 00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.360 think the Tour is going to continue to tinker with 1111 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:03.840 this format. The new CEO, Brian Rollop, spoke yesterday to 1112 00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:05.159 the media, and I think the tour is going to 1113 00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.440 tinker with a lot of things. I would expect everything 1114 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:09.840 with the tour right now to be in transition and 1115 00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:12.719 to be under the microscope. Certainly the Tour Championship format 1116 00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.000 would be one of them. And there's been tons of 1117 00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:17.519 format suggestions. Match play and come up with some sort 1118 00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:20.400 of round robin situation here at East Like, I don't 1119 00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:22.840 think that's the landing spot, but I think this year 1120 00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:25.039 it works, but I wouldn't expect it to be the future. 1121 00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:28.480 I do want to ask you about Brian's comments, and 1122 00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:31.719 I've had Brian on the show. We actually have family 1123 00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:35.719 friends and he's from the same footprints that I'm from, 1124 00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:38.000 and so you know, twenty two years with the NFL, 1125 00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:39.559 and I think it's a great hire. 1126 00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:41.000 I think he's going to be dynamite. 1127 00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:44.800 But before we get there, it's interesting asking who you 1128 00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:46.960 like now that we actually have some scores. But when 1129 00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.440 it comes to this tournament at the end of the day, 1130 00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.079 Scotty Scheffler has the shortest odds to win it since 1131 00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.239 Tiger in two thousand and nine. Who do you think 1132 00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:57.039 sold in the trophy rex at the end well. 1133 00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:59.159 And Scotty has played well, he's won here before. But 1134 00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:01.360 he pointed out Calin more Kywa, what have won here 1135 00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:03.280 last year? I had it not been for starting strokes, 1136 00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:05.280 and calinm Moore Kya is right at the top of 1137 00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:07.679 the leaderboard. So I would actually lean towards one of 1138 00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:10.320 those players. Certainly Justin Thomas has played well here in 1139 00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:12.000 the past. They both do the one thing you have 1140 00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:14.280 to do, and let's drive the ball well around this 1141 00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:16.599 golf course because you can score if you're in the fairway, 1142 00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:19.320 but from the rough it can be difficult. But Scotty 1143 00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:22.079 is gonna Scotti eventually. I mean we saw it last week. 1144 00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:24.159 We've seen it pretty much all year long, like there 1145 00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:27.800 is just a gear that he find. So I'm compelled 1146 00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.000 by the idea that Scotty is going to do what 1147 00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:32.000 he normally does. And yet you've got all these other 1148 00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:32.920 stars around him. 1149 00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:36.960 All right, When when are we allow to talk about 1150 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:39.639 Scotti Scheffer in the same sentence as Tiger Because when 1151 00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:43.320 I've done that before my golf guests usually they scold 1152 00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:47.960 me greatly. And it's interesting RECs Like whenever a stat 1153 00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:50.000 pops up, Like, for instance, I think I read that 1154 00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:52.639 Scotty just became the first player since Tiger to have 1155 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:55.679 back to back years where he won five times, and 1156 00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:59.320 Tiger did that like seven times. So I'm well aware 1157 00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:03.039 of how audacious those comparisons are. But when are we 1158 00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:05.159 allowed to talk about it in that space? 1159 00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:07.760 You mean we weren't allowed to talk about it until 1160 00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:09.800 now that that's not I even get that memo thank 1161 00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:12.599 you talking about it? Thank you. Yeah. I just think 1162 00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.000 I hate comparisons to Tiger Woods because I've done it 1163 00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:17.159 pretty much my entire career, and it's always unfair to 1164 00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:19.559 the player you're comparing and unfair to Tiger Woods. Like 1165 00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:22.360 the things he did were historic, and I still think 1166 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:24.920 Scotty clearly still has some time. I mean, Tiger did 1167 00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:26.840 it for the better part of two decades. You just 1168 00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:29.079 pointed out the interesting stats that I sort of keyed 1169 00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:32.480 in on. Twice in Tiger's career, he won at least 1170 00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:36.119 five times for four consecutive years. Scotty hasn't done that 1171 00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:39.079 one thing yet, and so you're kind of, you know, 1172 00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:41.880 you're looking at it through a very narrow lens when 1173 00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:43.960 it comes to it. But everything else he does if 1174 00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:46.719 you look at it statistically, just from a strokes gained standpoint, 1175 00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:49.199 the only comparison is Tiger Woods. When you look at 1176 00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:51.239 what he's been able to do at the major championships, 1177 00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:54.079 Tiger is the only comparison, and they do it in 1178 00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:57.079 a vastly different way. I think last week was interesting 1179 00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:00.400 on this case because outside of the chip in on seventeen, 1180 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.199 and I'm talking about last week at the BMW Championship 1181 00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:04.599 for Scotty Scheffler, he showed a little bit of a 1182 00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:07.239 motion there, but normally he's kind of a flatliner. So 1183 00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:10.119 he is Tiger Woods to a certain degree, at least statistically, 1184 00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:12.480 just without the flare. He's just not going to do 1185 00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:16.039 the dramatics. But I think at this point what he's accomplished, 1186 00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:17.599 those comparisons are perfectly fair. 1187 00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:22.199 I was watching your coverage last night and Brandal Shambley 1188 00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:24.719 actually anecdotally shared a story. 1189 00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:26.480 I can't remember who he was speaking to. 1190 00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:29.639 I think it was over in Dublin and somebody told 1191 00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:32.960 him he thinks Scotty is actually I can't remember the verb. 1192 00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:35.119 I don't want to say a better player than Tiger, 1193 00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:37.719 but maybe a cleaner player than Tiger or something. 1194 00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:39.920 Like that. I mean, Brandal said that on the broadcast 1195 00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:40.679 last night. 1196 00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:43.679 That might be a recent advice. I don't know about that. 1197 00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:47.039 One can say again, Tiger sustained this over two decades, 1198 00:54:47.199 --> 00:54:49.239 and I mean that's amazing to think about the things 1199 00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:51.079 he accomplished over the course of his career. And even 1200 00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:53.480 Scotty will dismiss this a little bit. He has had 1201 00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:56.079 a magical three and four year run, and the things 1202 00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:59.119 he's been able to accomplish we didn't anticipate because parody 1203 00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:01.920 has become the normal on the PGA tour. But yeah, 1204 00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:03.960 I don't see that. This is just starting to feel 1205 00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:08.280 like Lebron Jordan debate. Like I guess it depends on 1206 00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:10.599 what error you grew up in, but I still say 1207 00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:12.599 that Tiger Woods was better across the board. 1208 00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:15.679 Randall seems like an interesting fellow. What's he like? 1209 00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:19.400 I have nothing but respect for brand I've worked with 1210 00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:21.920 him luckily over the last decade or so, and no 1211 00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:23.960 one works harder. And that's the part that just blew 1212 00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:27.719 me away. It's one thing. He has opinions on everything, 1213 00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.880 and he's very good on TV and his knowledge of 1214 00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:34.199 the game is amazing. However, it's the one thing when 1215 00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:36.599 you get in the trailer with him six seven, eight 1216 00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:39.559 hours before the broadcast and he is just grinding over 1217 00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:43.320 notes and stats and historical references. He never goes into 1218 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:46.519 a take without being educated. He never says anything just 1219 00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:48.159 off the top of his head, just trying to be 1220 00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:50.760 flamboyant or trying to create a headline. That's not what 1221 00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:53.159 he does. He truly believes what he says. Now that 1222 00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:55.440 being said, he says plenty of things that I don't 1223 00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:57.000 agree with, but I know he gets to him in 1224 00:55:57.000 --> 00:55:57.719 a very good way. 1225 00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:00.760 Well said, all right, let's move on the comments, and 1226 00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:03.320 we talked about it on the show yesterday and again 1227 00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:05.760 for golf fans that don't know Brian Rollout, this is 1228 00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:09.280 a dynamite sports executive, a sharp person and a very 1229 00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:11.800 good guy. So for the first time we were able 1230 00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:15.159 to kind of hear from him in you know, kind 1231 00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:19.360 of an official media setting about what he sees as 1232 00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:21.320 it pertains to the future of the sport. And they're 1233 00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:23.880 putting together a committee that will be led by Tiger 1234 00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:27.559 Tiger Woods. I wonder what your thoughts were as you 1235 00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:30.920 digest the comments and when it comes to this the quote, 1236 00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:32.880 the goal is not incremental change quote. 1237 00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:35.519 The goal is significant change. What Rex do you think 1238 00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:36.400 that means? 1239 00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:39.920 He's three weeks on the job. This was his third 1240 00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:41.519 week on the job, and he stood in front of 1241 00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:44.079 everyone and talked about and we're not talking about incremental change. 1242 00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.480 We're talking about significant change and what he has proposed, 1243 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:48.760 and I'm sure what is actually being thought about it. 1244 00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:50.800 It is going to be dramatic. When you look at 1245 00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:53.159 sort of the three pillars that they leaned into, it's 1246 00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:55.039 parody and we already have that. And when it comes 1247 00:56:55.079 --> 00:56:57.400 to the PGA towards simplicity, we do not have that. 1248 00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.199 We just had a long conversation about the confusion here 1249 00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:02.920 at the Tour Championship and at scarcity, and I mean, 1250 00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:05.199 you can use another word, but I think scarcity can 1251 00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:08.039 only be interpreted one way. That means less is more 1252 00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:10.760 to a certain degree, the idea that he wants to 1253 00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:12.880 get the best players together and more often on the 1254 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:14.920 best courses and the best cities at the best time 1255 00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:18.119 of year, and condense this into a window that works 1256 00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:20.960 for everyone. I think even players that I talked to 1257 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:23.239 who aren't here at East Lake to be fair so 1258 00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:26.800 not top thirty players, even they were intrigued by what 1259 00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:29.519 this seems, where this seems to be headed, even they 1260 00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:31.639 were intrigued again. Three weeks on the job, and I 1261 00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:34.039 talked to over a dozen tour players and all of 1262 00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:37.079 them had not only had conversations with Brian and not hello, 1263 00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:40.360 my name is Brian, conversations. We're talking about hours long 1264 00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:43.039 conversations about the tour and the way they think the 1265 00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:45.519 directions should go. And he listened, he didn't talk, which 1266 00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:48.039 I think is a sign of a very good leader. 1267 00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:50.639 That to me, is the part that should get you assided. 1268 00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:52.639 One player told me, and I agree with us. He's 1269 00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:54.320 going to break some eggs and along the way he 1270 00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:57.719 probably going to make some players and some constituents angry. 1271 00:57:58.000 --> 00:57:59.519 But I think that's how you get the tour in 1272 00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:00.679 the best part position. 1273 00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:03.760 What is fair to say about Jay Monahan as he 1274 00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:06.519 makes his exit from his position with the tour. 1275 00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:09.679 He certainly is happy. A couple of us talked about 1276 00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:11.400 it today when we see him there this week, and 1277 00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:13.159 of course he would be. I mean, the weight off 1278 00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:16.639 his shoulders must be enormous. And I have not want 1279 00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:19.360 to be the apologist for Jay Monahan. However, I will 1280 00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:22.199 point out that during his tenure as commissioner, he dealt 1281 00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:24.480 with a couple of things that were unprecedented, and the pandemic, 1282 00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:26.960 which buy and large everyone says the Tour handled the 1283 00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:29.920 pandemic better than almost any other sports league. He dealt 1284 00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:32.480 with Livedoff, which is, in his words, not mine, the 1285 00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:36.280 irrational threat, a pile of money that didn't expect. I mean, 1286 00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:37.880 you have a backer that has a pile of money 1287 00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:41.320 that doesn't expect, a return that's hard to compete with sometimes. 1288 00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:43.280 And then on top of all that, you lost the 1289 00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:45.679 one player that made everything work, Tiger Woods. I think 1290 00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:48.440 Tiger Woods only played if I did the math correctly 1291 00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:51.760 at one point during Jay Monaghan's tenure, and he's still commissioner, 1292 00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:54.360 to be fair, but since he took over as commissioner, 1293 00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:57.480 Tiger Woods hasn't even played thirty regular PGA Tour events, 1294 00:58:57.639 --> 00:58:59.480 and so you add all those things together. He got 1295 00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:01.960 dealta tough, and I think buying lawnch he did the 1296 00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:04.199 best he could. Some people are going to disagree with 1297 00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:06.760 the way he handled live I certainly have my criticisms, 1298 00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:08.400 but you certainly look at the job and I don't 1299 00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:10.480 know that any commissioner in any sport has ever faced 1300 00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:10.840 what he. 1301 00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:14.800 Faced, So, Rex, I have a confession and I'm going 1302 00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:18.880 to ask for your forgiveness. Prior to my brother and 1303 00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:22.079 sister in law reside in Carmel, Indiana, and I went 1304 00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:25.039 to visit them a week ago and as I landed 1305 00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:26.960 and we were driving home from the airport, he said, 1306 00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:29.960 I have a surprise. And Scott O'Neill, who is the 1307 00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:32.639 commissioner of Live Golf, worked with my father at Madison 1308 00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:34.920 Square Garden, so we have a connection there. And he said, 1309 00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:36.800 I got us passes to go to the Live Golf 1310 00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:40.440 event in Indianapolis. Now I am a tour guy, so 1311 00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:44.519 I need your forgiveness. However, I could not be struck 1312 00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:46.800 by sitting there on eighteen on what they call ten 1313 00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:50.760 fifty four and watching Bryson and watching John Rahm and 1314 00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:53.800 watching Brooks. I mean, they do have a lot of really, 1315 00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:58.119 really good players, obviously, And I thought Brian's response to 1316 00:59:58.159 --> 00:59:59.960 the question, but he said, look, if you're gonna ask 1317 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:02.119 a live question, just asked me a live question. But 1318 01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:05.000 Brian did reference that he is not engaged with the 1319 01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:08.320 Public Investment Fund or anybody from Live Golf, And look, 1320 01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:10.639 I know you're probably tired of talking about it. You're 1321 01:00:10.639 --> 01:00:12.800 probably tired of the question. But if the goal is 1322 01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:15.599 to reunite the best players in the world, at some 1323 01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:18.519 point you're going to have to engage with live. What's 1324 01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:20.840 your understanding of where we stand right now with the 1325 01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:24.360 relationship or lack thereof, between the PGA Tour and Live Golf. 1326 01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:27.039 I think Brian sent a clear message during his press 1327 01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:28.800 conference that he didn't want to address live because he 1328 01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:31.079 knew that was going to overshadow what he was trying 1329 01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:33.480 to get across, and that's this new committee with everything 1330 01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:35.119 he's trying to do. I also think he wanted to 1331 01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:37.679 show some teeth and he certainly did that. Whether people 1332 01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:39.760 agree with and Ron, I think you have to show 1333 01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:42.320 strength in a situation like that. To be fair, I 1334 01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:44.760 have gone through numerous live golf events, so there's absolutely 1335 01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:47.840 no reason at all. I mean actually working gearalists, but 1336 01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:49.679 there's no reason at all to apologize. As a matter 1337 01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:51.320 of fact, the one last year at the rally went 1338 01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:54.400 to was amazing. The crowds were incredible, the scene was cool. 1339 01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:57.119 As you pointed out, they have incredible players. If you 1340 01:00:57.159 --> 01:00:59.119 were a top ten player in the world when you 1341 01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:01.320 join live golf, still a top ten player, whether or 1342 01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:03.760 not if the world Renton agrees with that or not. 1343 01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:07.519 But I see where you're going and I think eventually, 1344 01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:09.480 I don't know how we get there, but you're right, 1345 01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:11.760 reuniting the game has to be on the back burner 1346 01:01:12.039 --> 01:01:15.039 somewhere for not only Brian Rolapp but Scott O'Neil. And 1347 01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:17.519 to your point, one of the things I was drawn 1348 01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:19.760 to in the first interview I did with Brian was 1349 01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:22.800 at the Travelers Championship back in June. There was no 1350 01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:25.639 line of communication between Jma and Handing Praig Norman. It 1351 01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:28.719 was pretty clear those two were not friends, so there 1352 01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:30.920 was never going to be dialogue between the two sides. 1353 01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:34.079 In this particular case, Scott O'Neill Brian roll Up, they 1354 01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:35.920 went to the same college. I know for a fact 1355 01:01:35.960 --> 01:01:38.079 they have each other's phone numbers and their phones. That 1356 01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:39.880 to me is at least a sign that we can 1357 01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:40.840 get to there some way. 1358 01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.440 Yeah, and hopefully that happens at some point. Now, one 1359 01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:49.159 more live question. So when the whole thing first burst 1360 01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:51.679 on the scene, there was so much anger, there was 1361 01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:57.880 so much passion, there was so much divisiveness. In retrospect, 1362 01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:01.800 did Live accomplished something that we didn't see coming because 1363 01:02:02.039 --> 01:02:04.719 it's pretty undeniable RECs. So the PGA Tour did make 1364 01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:08.480 some adjustments after realizing, like, yes, this is a real threat. 1365 01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:11.280 We are losing some of our best players. And did 1366 01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:14.880 Phil Nicholson and Greg Norman actually force the PGA Tour 1367 01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:17.320 to adjust like they said they were going to, even 1368 01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:18.920 though nobody believed them at the time. 1369 01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:22.000 Yes, I think that's perfectly fair, especially when it comes 1370 01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.840 to Phil Nicholson that his argument all along was we 1371 01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:27.000 should be playing for bigger purses and in big tournaments, 1372 01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:29.400 and we should be focusing on the star players. Now, 1373 01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:31.239 it sounds a little selfish coming from one of those 1374 01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:34.199 guys that falls into that category, But what we've experienced 1375 01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:36.679 over the last three years, and certainly the long conversation 1376 01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:39.119 we just had about Brian Rollot's plan, goes to the 1377 01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:42.000 idea that on a certain level, to some degree, Phil 1378 01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:46.920 was absolutely right. Now the destructive nature of how Livgoff 1379 01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:49.800 entered the landscape, I think that's certainly a conversation we 1380 01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:51.760 can have. But I don't think there's anything that you 1381 01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:54.039 can look at the product like it or not, and 1382 01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:56.480 it's innovative, And that's the one line that We've heard 1383 01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:58.360 roll Ups say over and over again, that's what the 1384 01:02:58.400 --> 01:02:59.079 sport needs. 1385 01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:03.239 We are broadcasting about five miles away from where Tony 1386 01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:06.239 Fenale cut his teeth, and you know, once upon a 1387 01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:09.800 time it felt like Tony was evolving and growing into 1388 01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:11.679 potentially one of the best players in the world. And 1389 01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:13.760 I'm not saying he's not that now, but this was 1390 01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:16.639 not a great year for our local player who we 1391 01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:20.000 all pull for on the tour. What do you think 1392 01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:21.960 plagued to Tony the most this year and do you 1393 01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:23.480 think he can bounce back next season. 1394 01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:25.920 I actually was kind of going down the list and 1395 01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:28.480 I was taken that he wasn't here because he's become 1396 01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:30.800 such a staple and the Tour Championship is one of 1397 01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:33.159 those benchmarks that you look at great players and how 1398 01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:35.239 many times did you qualified for the Tour Championship. 1399 01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:36.679 I think this year was a. 1400 01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:39.400 Combination of things. It seems to me he lost something 1401 01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:41.440 on the ball striking front, which, at least off the 1402 01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:42.719 tee is what's going. 1403 01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:43.119 To carry him. 1404 01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:45.960 I mean, he has power that other players, most other 1405 01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:48.320 players can't find, but if you look at it statistically, 1406 01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:50.000 it's really on the greens where he seemed to at 1407 01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:53.320 least lose that edge whatever it is that separated him 1408 01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:55.920 from playing in the first playoff event and in the 1409 01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.800 last playoff event being here at East Lake. So it 1410 01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:02.039 seems to me across the board he regressed for some reason, 1411 01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:04.280 and we don't know. There could be a very good 1412 01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:05.880 reason for that. There could have been injury, there could 1413 01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:09.119 have been distractions. There's all kinds of reasons players games 1414 01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:11.639 fall off one season. However, I don't think he's the 1415 01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:13.920 kind of guy that doesn't find a way to rebound. 1416 01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:16.360 All right, Rex, before I say you loose, We also 1417 01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:18.679 have a really cool new thing and I were stayed 1418 01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:22.840 down south in Saint George Black Desert Resort. I've had 1419 01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:24.440 a chance to play it a couple of times. It 1420 01:04:24.519 --> 01:04:27.400 is awesome, And for the second straight year, the PGA 1421 01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:30.920 Tour during their Fall Fall Tour portion of the calendar 1422 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:34.599 will stop at Black Desert for the Bank of Utah Championship. 1423 01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:37.360 I don't want to diminish the field a year ago, 1424 01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:40.159 but of course the best golfers in the world don't 1425 01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:42.760 need the points, but Tony might, maybe Jordan Speth. I 1426 01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:45.480 don't know any thoughts on the potential field we could 1427 01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:47.519 see out here for the Black Desert Championship. 1428 01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:50.199 You look at the guys who are scrambling outside the 1429 01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:52.320 top seventy of those who didn't qualify for the playoffs, 1430 01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:54.280 so those who are right there on the edge. I 1431 01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:56.800 think the entire fall could be benefited by this. For 1432 01:04:56.880 --> 01:04:59.159 right or wrong, but yeah, I think you could end up. 1433 01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:00.800 I mean it makes sense for Tony to play there, 1434 01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:03.159 certainly where he is on the points list. Jordan Speed 1435 01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:05.400 is a little bit different animal because there are exemptions 1436 01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:07.719 that he can fall back on from previous victories and 1437 01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:11.679 previous accomplishments. But I think the entire fall, including your event, 1438 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:13.679 I will say I was speaking with my colleague Todd 1439 01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:16.199 Lewis just now about his fall schedule, and he actually 1440 01:05:16.199 --> 01:05:18.239 added that event, and he's looking forward to it for 1441 01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:18.760 good reason. 1442 01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:20.000 I lied to you. 1443 01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:21.719 I've got to ask you one more question, is the 1444 01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:24.719 expert before I set you loose? Obviously, the Ryder Cup 1445 01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:26.800 is right around the corner. Cannot wait for that. We 1446 01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:29.840 know who the six qualifiers are at Scottie, JJ Spahn, 1447 01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:34.480 Xander Russell, Henley Harris, English, Rice and Deshambeau. Who fills 1448 01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:36.559 out that team? Rex, give me your best guest before 1449 01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:37.199 I set you loose. 1450 01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:39.679 We were just going around and round about this. I 1451 01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:41.239 think you can point to some I think Colin Moore, 1452 01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:43.239 Kawar and JT are clearly say if they're right there 1453 01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:45.039 on the list, that makes sense to add them to 1454 01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:46.840 the team. I think Ben Griffin has done enough this 1455 01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:50.000 season two wins to top ten finishes in a major. 1456 01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:51.760 I think he should be on that team. And then 1457 01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:54.599 you start talking about some combination of Patrick Cantlay, he 1458 01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:57.039 brings so much to the team, Cameron Young breaking through 1459 01:05:57.159 --> 01:05:59.280 and getting that victory. I think he would be a 1460 01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:02.320 good addition, and of course I mean Sam Burns I 1461 01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:04.519 think is another interesting addition. But the one that all 1462 01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:07.360 of us is going to be watching is Keygain no captain, 1463 01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:09.639 no one has ever been in the position. Keith in 1464 01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:12.159 as a captain and as someone that I think the 1465 01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:14.400 other players will tell you he should be on that team. 1466 01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:17.039 By any measurements. He is a top ten I mean 1467 01:06:17.079 --> 01:06:20.199 top twelve American player, but it is going to be 1468 01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:22.760 so difficult for him to try to do both. Wednesday 1469 01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:24.800 can't get here fast enough. That's going to be fascinating. 1470 01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:25.440 Rex. 1471 01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:27.320 Thank you for the time. We'll set you loose. Enjoy 1472 01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:28.960 the rest of the tournament and love to do it again. 1473 01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:32.239 Okay any time. Thanks all right, Rex Hodgard from the 1474 01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:35.119 Golf Channel. Really nice of him to actually join us. 1475 01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:38.119 He's been on TV all night and all day in 1476 01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:41.880 Atlanta at east Lake at the Tour Championship where Russell 1477 01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:45.760 Henley just birdied a team to cart a sixty one 1478 01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:47.119 nine under. 1479 01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:49.119 Russell Henley is your leader in the clubhouse. 1480 01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:53.679 He's three shots clear of Colin Morikawa, Patrick Cantley and 1481 01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:57.320 Justin Thomas in addition to Robert McIntyre. They're all six 1482 01:06:57.400 --> 01:06:59.679 hundred part Tommy Fleetwood is still on the course as 1483 01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:00.679 a s Scheffler. 1484 01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:01.880 They're both at five under par. 1485 01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:06.559 Then at sak Shape Tia Ludwig Obert, Rory mcelroyd four under, 1486 01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:08.440 and then a grip of players at three under. This 1487 01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:11.079 is a massive event with the best golfers in the world, 1488 01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:12.800 so appreciate Rex of time. 1489 01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:14.599 Not sure you went to Golf PGA update. 1490 01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:17.280 You can dominate the tea with the titleist GT medals 1491 01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:20.639 and experience faster speeds with longer, straighter drives that you 1492 01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:23.199 went to golf and you went to golf dot com. 1493 01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:28.719 Pull the phones. We have a Scottischeffler club throw Scotti 1494 01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:33.599 Scheffler with a very uncharacteristic chip. He thinned his chip 1495 01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:36.960 and went over the green, and he threw his golf club. 1496 01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:40.199 Porter, I've never felt so seen and heard. 1497 01:07:40.239 --> 01:07:42.039 If I can use the young people verbage right now, 1498 01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:43.800 I feel seen, I feel heard today. 1499 01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:46.199 Yeah, he's just one of us, Spence, He's just one 1500 01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:48.039 of us. Well, I wouldn't go that far. Brought to 1501 01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:50.199 you by you went to golf indeed, indeed, but he 1502 01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:51.360 did throw his golf club. 1503 01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:55.719 The Tour Championship is at East Lake in Atlanta, Georgia. 1504 01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:58.519 We're just a few weeks away, quite frankly from the 1505 01:07:58.559 --> 01:08:00.800 Bank of Utah Championship up at the Black Does a 1506 01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:04.599 resort down south in Saint George. Special thanks to Direx 1507 01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:07.000 Hogar to join us live on site in Atlanta. We 1508 01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:09.800 started things off with our buddy Roxy Bernsteam from the PAC. 1509 01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:12.840 Twelve days he joined its live in studio. The newest 1510 01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:15.559 member of Ryal sal Lake is DeAndre Yedlin. He's our 1511 01:08:15.559 --> 01:08:18.039 guest on the other side of the four o'clock hour. 1512 01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:19.279 Then we'll do a little sports court. 1513 01:08:19.399 --> 01:08:23.119 But Utah football nine days away from game day. Our 1514 01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:25.600 next guest, one of the best wide receivers to ever 1515 01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:28.680 play at the You Kenneth Scott on a two excuse 1516 01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:30.840 me a Thursday afternoon, Kenneth, Happy Thursday. 1517 01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:30.960 Man. 1518 01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:31.439 How are we doing? 1519 01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:32.600 Man? 1520 01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:33.640 Doing amazing? 1521 01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:33.880 Man? 1522 01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:35.600 Kn't complain? How y'all doing over there? 1523 01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:35.800 Though? 1524 01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:37.960 We're good? We're good. So give us an update, give 1525 01:08:38.039 --> 01:08:40.279 us a life update. What's what's the latest in the 1526 01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:41.399 life of Kenneth Scott? 1527 01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:42.560 Oh? 1528 01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:45.119 Man, nothing too much, man, Just out here trying to 1529 01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:48.479 provide as much education and inspiration on whether it's through 1530 01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:53.560 you know, public speaking at middle school, high school right now. 1531 01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:56.399 I'm in higher education teaching as a professor, so you know, 1532 01:08:56.520 --> 01:08:58.319 in one of those mediums you know, all allow us 1533 01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:01.039 to do is just education is break man, That's basically 1534 01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:01.479 it for me. 1535 01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:02.279 All right. 1536 01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:04.239 Where you live in these days? Are you out here? 1537 01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:07.239 Are you back in Cali? Where where do we find you? 1538 01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:07.359 No? 1539 01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:09.159 I live out here in Houston, Texas. 1540 01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:09.319 Man. 1541 01:09:09.359 --> 01:09:10.920 That's the beautiful humidity weather. 1542 01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:14.199 Okay, very nice, very nice? All right, all right, let's 1543 01:09:14.199 --> 01:09:14.720 get into it. 1544 01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:17.600 So we're nine days away from game day for the 1545 01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:20.239 you to somebody who played for coach with played up 1546 01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:23.199 here at the University of Utah. What's going on behind 1547 01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:25.399 the scenes as we're getting ready for UCLA. At this 1548 01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:27.600 point in camp, it's week three of camp. There's only 1549 01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:29.560 one more week and then it's a game. So what's 1550 01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:31.039 going on right now up there on the hill? 1551 01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:32.000 Oh? 1552 01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:35.479 Man, man, this year is extremely focused. I feel like 1553 01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:40.840 this year doesn't have as much I wouldn't say, what 1554 01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:42.680 can I say. I don't feel like there's a much 1555 01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:45.800 expectation too much, you know, because last year, with cameras 1556 01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:47.800 and everything, well, you know, we had a lot of 1557 01:09:48.359 --> 01:09:50.479 expectations of, oh, we got to win the Big twelve. 1558 01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:54.119 I think this year is more so where are they at? 1559 01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:57.880 And then from there we're going to adjust our expectations accordingly. 1560 01:09:58.119 --> 01:09:59.600 I do feel like we're gonna have a good year, 1561 01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:01.600 but have to see what the first game is and 1562 01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:03.319 then I feel like week too week we're going to 1563 01:10:03.359 --> 01:10:07.319 adjust it. But I don't think expectations is too high 1564 01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:09.680 as it was previous years. But I think we're gonna 1565 01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:11.439 have We're gonna be in for a good treat this year. 1566 01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:15.119 So as a player, Kenneth, do you like it when 1567 01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:16.760 the expectations are high? 1568 01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:19.560 Do you want people to expect you to Yeah? 1569 01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:22.239 Yeah, yeah, you know, last year, as you reference, most 1570 01:10:22.279 --> 01:10:25.159 all of us, Utah would certainly compete, if not win 1571 01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:27.600 the Big twelve, and it went the other way. Do 1572 01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:30.039 you like when the expectations are high or do you 1573 01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:31.880 prefer when you're kind of flying under the radar a 1574 01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:32.319 little bit? 1575 01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:33.319 Man? 1576 01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:36.880 For some reason, I love the underdog mentality because it's like, 1577 01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:39.039 all right, well I'm gonna show you, I'm gonna show 1578 01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:42.199 you why I'm this and that. But it also does 1579 01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:44.560 feel good to get the recognition that you know, we 1580 01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:47.680 deserve as a as an organization, as a program, you know, 1581 01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:50.840 throughout the year. So for us, For me personally, I 1582 01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:53.920 loved coming in as the underdog so I can rise 1583 01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:56.960 up through the occasion, rise up to it, or show 1584 01:10:57.039 --> 01:10:59.319 people you know what it is we're made of. But 1585 01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:03.520 I would say the underdog would be the better mentality 1586 01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:03.880 for me. 1587 01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:07.319 What about coach win, What do you think he prefers? 1588 01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:09.479 Does he like, you know, the underdog role? Does he 1589 01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:11.720 like you know, trying to find ways to motivate you 1590 01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:13.840 when nobody thinks you're gonna do anything? Or do you 1591 01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:16.720 think he prefers, you know, people understanding how good his 1592 01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:17.239 team is. 1593 01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:22.600 Man coach with is the ultimate competitor that man competes 1594 01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:26.359 with like compete, compete. So I feel like he loves 1595 01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:29.720 the underdog mentality because he's the same mindset. He's like, 1596 01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:32.039 I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna proved to you, Like, yes, 1597 01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:34.760 I love the recognition, but I want to show you 1598 01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:37.560 rather than you already putting me up there, I'm gonna 1599 01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:40.840 show you why the respect is is earned. So definitely, 1600 01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:44.000 I feel like he loves the underdog mentality and obviously 1601 01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:46.920 respect the process is one of the core things for us, 1602 01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:49.039 so uh and only the only way to get that 1603 01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:51.199 respect is to get it, you know, through earning it, 1604 01:11:51.239 --> 01:11:53.279 and I think that's the best way he likes to 1605 01:11:53.319 --> 01:11:53.560 do it. 1606 01:11:53.920 --> 01:11:56.680 What's a what's a training camp like? Under coach Win? 1607 01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:58.720 What's what you know? I think it's a little bit 1608 01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:00.680 different now than it was back in the day because 1609 01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:04.239 they don't go as hard. Certainly, the past couple of 1610 01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:06.840 years for Utah football has been colored with the context 1611 01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:09.239 of a tremendous amount of injuries and lack of health. 1612 01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:12.199 So they're trying to make sure the frontline guys stay 1613 01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:13.560 healthy but start to finish. 1614 01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:15.479 What's a camp like? Playing for Kyle Whittingham. 1615 01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:19.039 Yeah, like for for us and you know, in our program, 1616 01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:21.199 I think the standard has always been the standard in 1617 01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:24.279 regards to like we want to put each other to 1618 01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:27.439 the limit every single day. But as you mentioned, you know, 1619 01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:31.239 over the years, the physicality of it math tapered off. 1620 01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:34.399 To be honest with you, I know during my career 1621 01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:36.520 you can kind of sense it a little bit with 1622 01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:40.640 you know, player rehabilitation type stuff, just to preserve the 1623 01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:43.439 players going into the season, you know, because we do run, 1624 01:12:43.600 --> 01:12:46.159 you know, run run to newar exhaustion and stuff like that. 1625 01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:49.039 So I feel like over time, I think throughout every program, 1626 01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:51.600 you know, over time the physicality of things have tapered 1627 01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:54.640 down a little bit from previous years, but it's still 1628 01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:58.880 high intensity. I think more focuses on efficiency nowadays, so 1629 01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:03.199 maybe it's more reps, less physicalness, but more reps when 1630 01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:05.800 it comes in terms of that. So I think that's 1631 01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:08.319 what it's coming to nowadays. But you know, we're always 1632 01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:10.439 going to be a physical taking no matter what. But 1633 01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:13.119 I feel like nowadays is all right, We're still going 1634 01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:15.680 to provide that physicalness, but we want to be efficient, 1635 01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:17.600 so I think more reps, you know, and that comes 1636 01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:19.760 with you know, lighter practice left tone on the body, 1637 01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:21.479 but more more reps to it though. 1638 01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:25.079 So of course Cam Rising will always be remembered around 1639 01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:27.359 here as a legend with with the back to back 1640 01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:31.680 pack twelve championships and uh, you know, but ultimately, I 1641 01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:34.279 think the past you know, year or so with Cam 1642 01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:36.399 was tough around here because we just didn't know if 1643 01:13:36.399 --> 01:13:38.920 he was going to be able to stay healthy. And 1644 01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:42.319 now the programs across the landscape of P four are 1645 01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:46.279 mandated to report injuries. We'll see if coach Wit finds 1646 01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:49.079 a way to circumvent that process. But you know, the 1647 01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:51.600 past couple of years, they didn't have to report injuries, 1648 01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:53.520 so nobody around here knew if he was going to play, 1649 01:13:53.560 --> 01:13:56.600 and oftentimes we'd show up at the stadium and wonder 1650 01:13:56.640 --> 01:13:58.920 if he's gonna run out with his shoulder pad. Sometimes 1651 01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:01.079 he did, sometimes he didn't, and sometimes he did and 1652 01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:03.640 still didn't play. I think it just caused a lot 1653 01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:08.199 of consternation around here. Katath, So as as Cameron Rising 1654 01:14:08.359 --> 01:14:10.199 makes his way to the next phase of his life, 1655 01:14:10.199 --> 01:14:12.119 how do you think he should be remembered around here? 1656 01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:18.399 An ultimate an ultimate dog like I don't think people 1657 01:14:18.840 --> 01:14:22.640 understand like at a time where we were like really 1658 01:14:22.680 --> 01:14:23.800 searching for something, like. 1659 01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:26.000 Man, how can we get over this hump? How can 1660 01:14:26.039 --> 01:14:28.960 we get to this destination? Like Cam Rising came in 1661 01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:33.079 and put put us on that pedal suits, Like, oh man, 1662 01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:36.119 these guys are Rose Bowl bounced type type school. This 1663 01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:39.239 team can put up with anybody the Ohio States, the 1664 01:14:39.640 --> 01:14:42.680 teams that have all these five star prospects that every 1665 01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:46.760 single uh, every single position, he kind of showed everybody, 1666 01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:50.920 and not only through his play, but like the cohesion 1667 01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:55.079 and the culture as well, like everybody, not only from 1668 01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:58.520 the field, but the fans, Like he brung everybody together too. 1669 01:14:58.840 --> 01:15:00.840 And I thought that was so cool because the effect 1670 01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:02.359 was not only on the field but off of it. 1671 01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:05.000 And I think he should be remembered highly like yeah, 1672 01:15:05.159 --> 01:15:07.680 last year happened or whatever happened, Like we don't know what, 1673 01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:09.640 we don't know, but I feel like for him, I 1674 01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:12.159 think we should praise him, like for the things that 1675 01:15:12.199 --> 01:15:15.520 he did for us, despite what, you know, what other 1676 01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:18.640 people may say. I think he deserves, uh, you know, 1677 01:15:18.760 --> 01:15:21.359 to get the glory that you know, he ultimately put 1678 01:15:21.399 --> 01:15:24.119 in the work for so uh. I think he did 1679 01:15:24.119 --> 01:15:26.239 an excellent job throughout his career. I wish it would 1680 01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:28.760 have ended better as far as like him going out 1681 01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:32.199 on top and actually finishing his playing days. Injuries suck, 1682 01:15:32.279 --> 01:15:35.560 but I think we should remember him for the greatness 1683 01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:37.319 that he is stilled, not only on the field but 1684 01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:40.560 off the field. Like for the fans, the excitement people wrong, 1685 01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:44.000 the confidence people wrong in the program, just all that 1686 01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:46.800 like it just like for me, you know, being in Texas, 1687 01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:49.079 I'm able to strut around be like, look, man, our 1688 01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:51.000 team was in the roads, for our team. So it's 1689 01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:54.239 just that he brong that to you know, to Utah 1690 01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:56.520 back you know, back to that level. So you know, 1691 01:15:56.560 --> 01:15:58.039 I commend him for everything he did. 1692 01:15:58.359 --> 01:16:01.319 You know, you can relate to what Cameron went through, Kenneth, 1693 01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:04.119 because when you were healthy, you were very productive, but 1694 01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:07.279 you suffered some big time injuries because you had to 1695 01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:11.640 miss a couple of years with injuries, and ultimately, you know, 1696 01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:15.880 that's something that Cameron experienced as well. How challenging is 1697 01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:19.319 it when you're relied upon by this community and this 1698 01:16:19.439 --> 01:16:22.239 fan base to be playing and then you go down 1699 01:16:22.279 --> 01:16:23.640 and you get hurt and there's nothing you can do 1700 01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:26.279 about it. What are the challenges in that space and 1701 01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:27.439 how did you overcome them? 1702 01:16:28.359 --> 01:16:34.399 Man the injuries man. That that was the most challenging 1703 01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:37.840 because you yourself see you as this figure of what 1704 01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:40.439 you could be, but your body is kind of telling 1705 01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:44.600 you differently. You still feel like maybe you can for 1706 01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:46.359 the first couple of rests, but after a while that's 1707 01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:48.880 fat kis seeing it. It's like, dang, maybe I may 1708 01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:51.520 have lost the step. Maybe I you know, maybe I'm 1709 01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:53.760 not back to where I once was. And that's the 1710 01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:56.680 frustrating part because you're always trying to get back to 1711 01:16:56.760 --> 01:16:58.600 your old self, but your old self but trying to 1712 01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:01.319 reach another level, if that makes sense. So the mindset 1713 01:17:01.359 --> 01:17:06.159 piece of it definitely is challenging, especially if you have 1714 01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:10.520 big dreams for yourself, big aspirations, and no matter how 1715 01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:13.800 hard you push, no matter how hard you will through it, 1716 01:17:14.159 --> 01:17:16.960 your body just doesn't hold up. And that could be 1717 01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:20.439 frustrating because it's something out of your control. And so 1718 01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:22.279 I commend him on that because he kept fighting, he 1719 01:17:22.359 --> 01:17:26.119 kept coming back despite all that, and uh, you know, 1720 01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:28.359 sometimes we get the bad luck of the draw. But 1721 01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:31.000 if you have a good people around you, which it 1722 01:17:31.039 --> 01:17:33.079 seems like he did, you know, they kept him high 1723 01:17:33.119 --> 01:17:36.800 during those times, like for instance, like when Travis Wilson 1724 01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:39.880 has to go through his his uh situations with his 1725 01:17:40.039 --> 01:17:42.359 with his brain and stuff like that. You need a 1726 01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:45.199 good support group, whether it's through your teammates, to your 1727 01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:47.960 your your fans, like you know, if they see you 1728 01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:50.439 in the community keep the positive for you like you 1729 01:17:50.520 --> 01:17:53.479 need that or else. You know, it can turn really 1730 01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:56.319 bad for someone where they might say, look, I'm done, 1731 01:17:56.359 --> 01:17:58.880 I'm clocking out, and not in a good way. So 1732 01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:02.760 can do that for you because you're not that person 1733 01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:06.119 who people look up to as much anymore because of 1734 01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:08.199 these injuries that you can't control, and you're not the 1735 01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:10.479 person that you think you could become too. So it's 1736 01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:12.359 always good to have a support system around. 1737 01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:14.199 Did you feel like you had that while you were 1738 01:18:14.199 --> 01:18:16.079 here from I mean, of course you had it up 1739 01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:18.520 at school with the athletic department and the football team, 1740 01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:20.520 but as far as the community and the fans, did 1741 01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:22.279 you feel like you had support when you were going 1742 01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:23.079 through those injuries? 1743 01:18:23.720 --> 01:18:23.960 Oh? 1744 01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:28.640 Man, the support was crazy. I absolutely adored everybody. I 1745 01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:31.279 loved everybody. It got to the point where people were 1746 01:18:31.279 --> 01:18:33.800 bringing me, like making cakes for me and bringing me 1747 01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:36.920 sweets and snacks to just make me feel better. And 1748 01:18:37.159 --> 01:18:39.439 I thought out and that's why I'm forever indebted to 1749 01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:42.560 you know, the state of Utah, the program, the fans, 1750 01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:44.960 the culture. I'm not even gonna call them the supporters 1751 01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:47.199 because of what they did to me during my down 1752 01:18:47.239 --> 01:18:51.520 times because for instance, my first injury, man almost I 1753 01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:54.000 was about to transfer on out and levire because I 1754 01:18:54.079 --> 01:18:57.279 was just at first I felt like alone because I 1755 01:18:57.319 --> 01:18:59.800 was like, man, I'm from California and you know people 1756 01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:02.239 are wanted to the season, but no, Thankfully I had 1757 01:19:02.239 --> 01:19:05.840 a coach Rod who obviously that b YU now you know, 1758 01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:08.159 he loved on me and make sure that I was 1759 01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:11.560 loved in that moment and not forgotten. And our teammates 1760 01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:14.319 came to visit me. The fans all wrapped their arms 1761 01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:16.279 around me in the community if they see me around. 1762 01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:19.479 And so when the second time happened, that that love 1763 01:19:19.640 --> 01:19:22.760 like you know with times too, and so I'm definitely 1764 01:19:22.760 --> 01:19:26.039 appreciative of that. You know, I'm always indebted to Utah 1765 01:19:26.079 --> 01:19:27.920 for that because they showed me that amount of love. 1766 01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:31.079 I don't know how familiar familiar you are. 1767 01:19:31.159 --> 01:19:34.359 Kenneth with Devin Dampier, the new quarterback here at the 1768 01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:37.479 University of Utah, who spent last season at New Mexico. 1769 01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:41.840 He arrives on campus with his offensive coordinator Jason Beck 1770 01:19:42.680 --> 01:19:46.079 and some other New Mexico transfer transfers as well. So again, 1771 01:19:46.239 --> 01:19:47.840 not sure if you've been able to kind of dig 1772 01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:50.159 in and get to know about Devin at all. But 1773 01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:52.680 what are you expecting from Utah's new quarterback as we 1774 01:19:52.720 --> 01:19:54.520 approach game day in just nine days? 1775 01:19:55.199 --> 01:19:57.840 Man, it's going to be a new dimension. I definitely 1776 01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:00.199 I love I mean, I love the way he plays 1777 01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:03.119 with utmost swagger and confidence. That's something kim Ryson has, 1778 01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:06.760 that swagger and confidence. I love that about him. When 1779 01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:08.720 you look at his game, it's pretty balanced. He he 1780 01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:10.880 can't throw the ball and he can run that ball. 1781 01:20:11.199 --> 01:20:13.640 And so it's going to be interesting to kind of 1782 01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:16.600 go back to a real dual threat type of quarterback 1783 01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:19.680 that can actually really do good in both aspects of 1784 01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:22.199 the game and can open up pass and lanes with 1785 01:20:22.319 --> 01:20:25.399 you know, with his diversity, the dualness of what it 1786 01:20:25.479 --> 01:20:28.000 can do to the game. And then his counterparts that 1787 01:20:28.039 --> 01:20:30.239 came with him, you know, the running backs and even 1788 01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:31.479 a receiver. I like the receiver. 1789 01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:33.560 I think his named Ryan. I like what he does. 1790 01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:36.600 He put up really good numbers last season. Like seven 1791 01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:37.439 over seven hundred some. 1792 01:20:37.560 --> 01:20:41.680 Yards and fifty over fifty catches, So obviously there's chemistry 1793 01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:43.760 there along with the other receivers that we have. And 1794 01:20:43.800 --> 01:20:47.039 obviously our old lineman is freaking stacked and good. So 1795 01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:49.840 you know, I'm looking forward to him being the leader 1796 01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:52.560 that he is and like really moving that team and 1797 01:20:52.560 --> 01:20:56.079 that offense along to where we can really make some 1798 01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:57.960 noise on the officer and that kind of keeps up 1799 01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:02.000 with the manstra of our program. And defense always wins 1800 01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:04.159 his games. But I mean the offense and the hold 1801 01:21:04.199 --> 01:21:04.800 their way too. 1802 01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:07.720 You know, the Irony Kenneth is a year ago, just 1803 01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:11.079 an average offense would have put Utah in contention for 1804 01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:13.800 a Big twelve championship because to your point, the defense 1805 01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:17.039 is always stout, it is always prepared and is always 1806 01:21:17.039 --> 01:21:20.159 ready to do. You have confidence that this year, based 1807 01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:22.800 off the new personnel, the offense can at least complement 1808 01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:24.960 the defense enough to put Utah in a position to 1809 01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:26.640 compete for the league this season. 1810 01:21:27.680 --> 01:21:32.159 I'm hoping That's what I'm hoping. You know, It's always 1811 01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:36.039 tricky because the new transitions, I know, I mean every 1812 01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:38.319 year I was there at Utah, we had a different 1813 01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:41.560 offensive coordinator and a different system, and so I know 1814 01:21:41.880 --> 01:21:44.840 how that can take time, you know, to implement. But 1815 01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:49.560 luckily for us, the quarterback and some of his weapons 1816 01:21:49.560 --> 01:21:51.479 are coming over here, so it's not going to be 1817 01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:55.199 as steep as a transition. So I'm assuming that we're 1818 01:21:55.239 --> 01:21:58.239 at least i'm kno gonna win them. Hopefully we can 1819 01:21:58.319 --> 01:22:01.520 average about twenty seven points, twenty six, twenty seven. I'm 1820 01:22:01.560 --> 01:22:05.000 hoping right because I think this is a high off 1821 01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:07.720 the hot scoring type of league nowadays, that's in the 1822 01:22:07.720 --> 01:22:10.199 big blow and so I'm hoping if we can put 1823 01:22:10.239 --> 01:22:13.039 up some larger numbers will be good. I think we can. 1824 01:22:13.079 --> 01:22:14.520 We can do it. I think we can do it. 1825 01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:18.840 We have some weapons, we got chemistry from their past teams, 1826 01:22:18.920 --> 01:22:22.680 and you know, I think we're still balanced across the 1827 01:22:23.119 --> 01:22:25.359 table when it comes to offense and the weapons. I think, 1828 01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:27.680 you know, we put together in a symbol pretty good 1829 01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:31.079 people from transfers, et cetera, and I think their experience 1830 01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:32.359 coming in, I think we should be good. 1831 01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:34.239 You reference the balance. 1832 01:22:34.279 --> 01:22:37.840 I'm really interested, Kenneth to see what that looks like 1833 01:22:38.039 --> 01:22:40.439 this year on this team, because you point out the 1834 01:22:40.479 --> 01:22:44.800 offensive line, all five starters are coming back ESPN ranked 1835 01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:47.479 their top one hundred players in college football yesterday. Spencer 1836 01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:50.600 Fino was number seven in the country regardless of position, 1837 01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:53.079 so a lot of people think he's like a top 1838 01:22:53.119 --> 01:22:55.479 ten pick. The other tackle, Cayleb Blowman's on the A 1839 01:22:55.479 --> 01:22:59.279 sophomore Karen Kompa is a captain. Michael Mocafisi has thirty 1840 01:22:59.319 --> 01:23:02.479 three starts like so. So, so we know that the 1841 01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:04.640 old line is awesome. We know that they have two 1842 01:23:04.680 --> 01:23:07.359 running backs they like. We know they have a quarterback 1843 01:23:07.399 --> 01:23:09.960 that can really run. Part of me believes this will 1844 01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:12.479 be a run heavy attack. But what sort of balance 1845 01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:14.920 do you anticipate from Utah's offense this year? 1846 01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:18.239 That's what you bring up a good point. So I 1847 01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:20.960 think since since we know that too outside looking in, 1848 01:23:21.199 --> 01:23:23.720 I'm assuming other team's gonna think about the same and 1849 01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:27.479 it's gonna be a more packed box, maybe a single 1850 01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:29.199 high safety rather than too high. 1851 01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:29.760 Uh. 1852 01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:32.039 Single high safety just means there's gonna be more people 1853 01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:33.560 in the box. You know the safety is gonna come 1854 01:23:33.600 --> 01:23:37.279 down that it's gonna offer more opportunities on the outside 1855 01:23:37.319 --> 01:23:41.880 to make plays and even the slot players too. So 1856 01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:44.319 I think that's gonna allow us to do you know, 1857 01:23:44.359 --> 01:23:46.800 have more masses on the outside for big plays and 1858 01:23:46.920 --> 01:23:50.119 shoot with that type of offense, and having you know, 1859 01:23:50.159 --> 01:23:52.880 our quarterback being a duel threat, he is shoot one 1860 01:23:52.920 --> 01:23:54.640 on one in the open field. Man he could take 1861 01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:56.720 something that as simple as a readoption and take at 1862 01:23:56.720 --> 01:24:00.239 the distance. You know. So you know, I expect us 1863 01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:02.920 to have some big plays just because of you know, 1864 01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:05.720 even if us outside looking in know that we have 1865 01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:07.600 a good office line, we have some good running back 1866 01:24:07.640 --> 01:24:09.520 and a court back as a dual threat, we could 1867 01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:12.720 we can expect to be about sixty five percent run 1868 01:24:13.399 --> 01:24:17.239 at sixty six percent run and then the rest being uh, 1869 01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:20.159 you know, whether it's play action, you know, those type 1870 01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:24.880 of aspects in the passing game. So I think a 1871 01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:27.840 stack box going allow more bigger plays on the outside, 1872 01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:30.119 which is going to kind of make us a little 1873 01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:31.920 more effective out that It's going to be pretty good. 1874 01:24:32.199 --> 01:24:33.359 I'm excited for it actually. 1875 01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:37.159 So you played the wide receiver position, and it is 1876 01:24:37.239 --> 01:24:40.319 the positional group that most people have the most questions 1877 01:24:40.319 --> 01:24:43.680 about because you know, Zach Williams kid was thought to 1878 01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:46.119 be the number one wide receiver. He transfers to USC 1879 01:24:46.760 --> 01:24:49.680 they're they're all they're all new, and if they're all new, 1880 01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:50.680 they're all transfers. 1881 01:24:50.680 --> 01:24:52.319 We don't know much about any of them. 1882 01:24:52.760 --> 01:24:55.159 Soon as somebody who played the position, what should we 1883 01:24:55.239 --> 01:24:57.279 be hoping for as far as watching a group of 1884 01:24:57.319 --> 01:24:59.960 new players, what's it like to play wide receiver at Utah? 1885 01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:00.960 For Kyle winning him? 1886 01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:07.199 Man, I was hurt when Zack when he left the US. No, no, no, 1887 01:25:07.319 --> 01:25:10.640 bring him back. Come on, man, he did so well 1888 01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:13.359 and I think it was the UCF game he was balling. 1889 01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:17.000 But you know what you can expect. I always say this, Man, 1890 01:25:17.159 --> 01:25:19.960 it's not that we never had the like the talent 1891 01:25:20.039 --> 01:25:22.199 at the position. It's just a matter of opportunity when 1892 01:25:22.239 --> 01:25:24.560 it comes to it. And so if you are a receiver, 1893 01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:26.960 just know that a lot of times you may have 1894 01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:29.760 to put your ego aside and be like, man, you 1895 01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:32.039 probably most likely are not going to get ten catches 1896 01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:34.000 a game or ten of tips a game. You're gonna 1897 01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:36.399 have to do the dirty work and do whatever it 1898 01:25:36.439 --> 01:25:38.520 takes in order for us to win a game. And 1899 01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:41.239 if that's four catches a game, three catches, three attempts, 1900 01:25:41.239 --> 01:25:43.159 whatever that is, you just got to know when that 1901 01:25:43.239 --> 01:25:45.840 ball is in your area, in your way, you just 1902 01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:47.560 got to come down with it, right, make the most 1903 01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:52.720 And so in translation, the receivers if they can go 1904 01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:55.039 to a weed mentality instead of an eye, just like, man, 1905 01:25:55.079 --> 01:25:57.239 I'm gonna try to get ten catches. That's a cool aspiration. 1906 01:25:57.399 --> 01:25:59.239 But you know, think about the team too, because when 1907 01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:01.680 it comes to our offense, it's more about you know, 1908 01:26:02.119 --> 01:26:05.199 when the opportunity does come, you just got to make 1909 01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:07.880 the most of it. And just know that we are 1910 01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:13.199 traditionally a run offense, and so you just gotta be 1911 01:26:14.079 --> 01:26:16.279 you got to access some things you got to accept, right, 1912 01:26:16.319 --> 01:26:18.319 And so I think when it's coming to a receiver 1913 01:26:18.439 --> 01:26:21.800 in you just got to accept like, Okay, I may 1914 01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:25.119 not be a thousand yard receiver in this offense or whever, 1915 01:26:25.159 --> 01:26:28.079 I can still be productive in regards to the run game, 1916 01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:31.079 helping my running back. If I hit this safety download, 1917 01:26:31.159 --> 01:26:33.159 now he's single. Now he's one on one with a 1918 01:26:33.159 --> 01:26:34.800 person and he can take it the distance. 1919 01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:35.039 Right. 1920 01:26:35.079 --> 01:26:39.359 It's just those unselfish acts that doesn't show on the 1921 01:26:39.359 --> 01:26:41.800 stat sheet that's going to make you valuable as a 1922 01:26:41.800 --> 01:26:45.520 receiver in this offense. And then when the opportunity does come, 1923 01:26:45.560 --> 01:26:47.000 you just got to make sure what it makes sure 1924 01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:49.479 it's your way to keep the possession going, or make 1925 01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:51.640 that big play on the outside when it's one on one. 1926 01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:54.039 You really and we really need it to shift the game. 1927 01:26:54.159 --> 01:26:56.560 So I say all say all that have to say. 1928 01:26:56.600 --> 01:26:59.880 As a receiver in this offense, just know that you 1929 01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:02.520 know you're gonna put your ego aside and do what's 1930 01:27:02.520 --> 01:27:04.880 best for the team, and just know when something comes 1931 01:27:04.880 --> 01:27:06.159 your way, just take advantage of it. 1932 01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:10.039 Current state of the sport is always something I'm interested 1933 01:27:10.039 --> 01:27:13.680 to talk about former players with and let's start here. 1934 01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:17.119 Is it still weird for you that the Pac twelve 1935 01:27:17.199 --> 01:27:19.560 is dead, that there's not a home for West Coast football? 1936 01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:23.279 I am hurt by that. I am hurt. I grew 1937 01:27:23.359 --> 01:27:28.000 up with the Pack Cans, watching USC and Oregon and 1938 01:27:28.439 --> 01:27:31.800 even man, it hurts. I'm not gonna lie. It hurts 1939 01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:33.760 me to the core being the West Coast guy. And 1940 01:27:34.319 --> 01:27:36.720 no disrespect to the current teams in the in the 1941 01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:39.960 new Pack, no disrespect, but it's not the same. It 1942 01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:42.399 isn't the same. So I'm hurt by that. I'm be honest, 1943 01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:46.199 and I don't like it, but I'm trying to understand 1944 01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:47.640 it and be honest, I'm trying to understand it and 1945 01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:49.560 accept it. But I don't like it. I'm just gonna 1946 01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:50.159 be honest with you. 1947 01:27:50.800 --> 01:27:53.239 What do you think about Utah's current home, the Big twelve. 1948 01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:55.800 I mean, it's just a different thing. It's a different footprint, 1949 01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:59.479 it's different road trips for fans, it's an entirely new experience. 1950 01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:03.720 What do you think, Big Kennon, It's okay. I mean, 1951 01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:05.920 I'm selfishly it's okay for me because I know we're 1952 01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:08.439 gonna have a game in Texas like this year. I 1953 01:28:08.439 --> 01:28:10.319 see we're going to Baylor, so obviously I'm gonna march 1954 01:28:10.359 --> 01:28:13.199 up to Baylor. We Waco, Texas to watch them play Baylor. 1955 01:28:13.359 --> 01:28:17.520 But I honestly feel the way our program is structured, 1956 01:28:17.800 --> 01:28:21.800 we either belong in the Big ten or if we 1957 01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:24.520 had enough. I'm not saying we had enough. If we 1958 01:28:24.680 --> 01:28:27.760 if we consistently show we have firepower as much as 1959 01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:29.880 we do on defense on the office end, I think 1960 01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:32.520 we can be an SEC type school honestly, because we 1961 01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:35.640 have a strong stout defense. In every SEC school we play, 1962 01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:39.319 we handle ourselves pretty well, and so I think we're 1963 01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:42.279 a Big ten type school and hopefully within the next 1964 01:28:42.279 --> 01:28:44.800 couple of years that can make it happen. But then again, 1965 01:28:44.840 --> 01:28:49.039 doesn't change the road tripping aspect of it. But I 1966 01:28:49.039 --> 01:28:51.960 think final destination big twelve, I mean Big ten. But 1967 01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:54.640 I can put up with the Big twelve currently because selfishly, 1968 01:28:54.680 --> 01:28:56.279 they're going to be showing up in Texas where I 1969 01:28:56.279 --> 01:28:57.199 can watch them. 1970 01:28:57.680 --> 01:29:00.119 The other thing that has changed, Kennon since you were 1971 01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:03.079 on campus is the ability of football players to profit 1972 01:29:03.159 --> 01:29:05.279 off their name, image and likeness and make a little 1973 01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:07.960 bit of money and in some cases make a lot 1974 01:29:07.960 --> 01:29:11.479 of money. I always wonder how that lands with guys 1975 01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:14.680 like you that had big personalities and were really really 1976 01:29:14.720 --> 01:29:16.920 good and probably could have made a lot of money 1977 01:29:17.359 --> 01:29:19.600 if the rules were a little bit different. Are you 1978 01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:22.199 happy that we have the change? Does it kind of 1979 01:29:22.199 --> 01:29:24.119 make you cringe a little bit that you weren't part 1980 01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:25.399 of it? Give me your thoughts on. 1981 01:29:25.359 --> 01:29:30.479 That it's too way this duality to it. So for me, 1982 01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:35.760 I'm happy for them, But oftentimes the things I see 1983 01:29:35.880 --> 01:29:40.520 make me unhappy because it lose the essence of like 1984 01:29:40.680 --> 01:29:44.399 the realness of the college experience. I'm gonna be honest, man, 1985 01:29:44.399 --> 01:29:47.600 that locker room is sacred, like sacred, Like I just 1986 01:29:47.680 --> 01:29:49.800 remember the good times, but we didn't have as much 1987 01:29:49.840 --> 01:29:52.439 where we'd be like man, bro we don't need noodles. 1988 01:29:52.479 --> 01:29:55.479 But you know, we we bump up together as far 1989 01:29:55.520 --> 01:29:57.760 as the same apartment or something, and we just squander 1990 01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:00.399 up a few dollars just to go down to catch 1991 01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:03.479 to the tracks to the taco bell on the four 1992 01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:06.600 hundred South, and you know it's just you. You miss 1993 01:30:06.680 --> 01:30:10.359 court memories, you know, those type of court memories like 1994 01:30:10.439 --> 01:30:12.439 it was back then where we didn't have we used 1995 01:30:12.479 --> 01:30:14.319 to have to we couldn't. I think the only thing 1996 01:30:14.319 --> 01:30:16.000 we can have is like a bagel or a piece 1997 01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:17.720 of fruit, like to where they can give to us. 1998 01:30:17.720 --> 01:30:20.920 And so those memories, you know, those are prime memories 1999 01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:23.760 for us. Like but then again, on the other side 2000 01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:26.119 of them getting paid for you know, their name, image 2001 01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:28.000 and likeness, it's cool. But as long as they know 2002 01:30:28.039 --> 01:30:31.720 what to do and they align with the people that 2003 01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:34.439 are paying them, Like if I'm them, I would make 2004 01:30:34.479 --> 01:30:36.640 sure if I am partnering with someone, make sure that 2005 01:30:36.640 --> 01:30:39.399 they're aligning to my desired outcome in my future. That 2006 01:30:39.479 --> 01:30:42.399 can now only maximize what I'm working on right now. 2007 01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:45.960 But for after sports, and I mean the missing key 2008 01:30:46.079 --> 01:30:48.800 is them. Man, if they can build relationships with this 2009 01:30:49.000 --> 01:30:51.199 nil landscape, that can not only set them up for 2010 01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:55.159 now but for later too. I think that's the goodness 2011 01:30:55.159 --> 01:30:57.680 of it. But then you have predators out there that 2012 01:30:57.960 --> 01:31:01.399 could take advantage of the student apple as well. So 2013 01:31:01.439 --> 01:31:03.520 it's both ways. For me, I wish I had it, 2014 01:31:04.640 --> 01:31:07.640 you know, But then again, I look at my current situation, 2015 01:31:07.720 --> 01:31:10.319 I'm like, nothing really changed other than the monetary stuff. 2016 01:31:10.359 --> 01:31:13.279 I think the relationship for me is what was the 2017 01:31:13.319 --> 01:31:16.960 real substantial piece through my college experience and the network 2018 01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:21.000 that I build. So long story short, I like both 2019 01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:23.119 sides of it. I mean I like one side of it, 2020 01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:24.279 but I hate the other side of it. 2021 01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:27.600 No, it's well said, and you reference relationship Ken Kenneth. 2022 01:31:27.680 --> 01:31:30.079 So before I say you lose, which are your former 2023 01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:33.520 teammates do you keep in contact with? How connected are 2024 01:31:33.560 --> 01:31:35.960 you to the alumni base man. 2025 01:31:37.399 --> 01:31:39.399 I don't want to single everyone out because think of like, 2026 01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:43.119 well what about me? But I do have a lot 2027 01:31:43.159 --> 01:31:47.079 of folks that I do keep in contact with currently 2028 01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:48.960 right now, I know, I don't know if I could 2029 01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:51.439 say too much of it, but we're trying to put 2030 01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:56.359 together a former athlete association type things where you know, 2031 01:31:56.399 --> 01:32:00.439 we can always keep that bond through different eras, right, 2032 01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:03.239 And so me right now. I still follow up with 2033 01:32:03.439 --> 01:32:06.760 basically all my receivers from every era that I've played in, 2034 01:32:07.279 --> 01:32:10.319 and even my quarterbacks, Like I know Travis Wilson, He's 2035 01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:13.039 like one of my bestest friends. You know. I surprised 2036 01:32:13.079 --> 01:32:14.640 him by a couple of weeks ago when I went 2037 01:32:14.680 --> 01:32:17.319 to Cali to check up on them and to see him. 2038 01:32:17.359 --> 01:32:19.800 And so, you know, I do have friends, you know, 2039 01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:22.520 obviously somewhere out here in Texas. I watch their kids 2040 01:32:22.800 --> 01:32:25.039 and it's crazy to me that we all have kids 2041 01:32:25.079 --> 01:32:27.840 and stuff like that. So it's pretty cool. I make 2042 01:32:27.880 --> 01:32:31.159 sure I stay in Entrench with my teammates because you know, 2043 01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:33.079 those are memories that are forged in my mind that 2044 01:32:33.119 --> 01:32:35.279 I'll never forget, and so I make sure I love 2045 01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:37.319 on them from time to time because I understand the 2046 01:32:37.319 --> 01:32:40.479 transition could be hard, but if you had a support 2047 01:32:40.520 --> 01:32:43.079 system of the people that was with you during hard 2048 01:32:43.119 --> 01:32:46.039 times and good time, man, it makes the transition much better. 2049 01:32:46.560 --> 01:32:49.279 Where can people go find you on social if they 2050 01:32:49.279 --> 01:32:51.600 want to book you to speak? Where are some of 2051 01:32:51.640 --> 01:32:53.720 the touch points people can find you, Kenneth. 2052 01:32:54.119 --> 01:32:57.199 Yeah for sure, So on Instagram or Twitter they can 2053 01:32:57.239 --> 01:33:00.199 find me at Kate Scott Underscore too and if they 2054 01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:02.680 would like to book me to speak, you can go 2055 01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:06.800 on my website at Kenneth Scott dot me and it's 2056 01:33:06.840 --> 01:33:10.039 they obviously email contact informations in there as well. And 2057 01:33:10.079 --> 01:33:12.880 I'm excited about, uh, there's a future product that I'm 2058 01:33:12.920 --> 01:33:15.640 going to be putting out here soon. It's a software 2059 01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:19.199 product that's going to help you know, current high school 2060 01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:22.920 student athletes that are potential college hopefuls. So I'm excited 2061 01:33:22.920 --> 01:33:25.279 about that piece, which I can elaborate more once it's 2062 01:33:25.359 --> 01:33:28.079 finally said and done, you know. And my whole goal 2063 01:33:28.199 --> 01:33:32.479 is to help all the student athletes where there's high school, college, whatever, 2064 01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:35.399 prepare for their next step, not only right now but 2065 01:33:35.520 --> 01:33:36.159 in life too. 2066 01:33:36.520 --> 01:33:38.479 Good stuff, buddy, Hey, thanks for the time. It's great 2067 01:33:38.520 --> 01:33:40.359 to catch up. You stay safe and we'll get you 2068 01:33:40.439 --> 01:33:41.000 back on soon. 2069 01:33:41.039 --> 01:33:41.359 Okay. 2070 01:33:42.159 --> 01:33:44.199 Sounds great to me. Man, Thank you guys so much. 2071 01:33:44.199 --> 01:33:45.159 I appreciate you all right. 2072 01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:47.840 Kennth Scott, former wide receiver for the University of Utah, 2073 01:33:47.920 --> 01:33:51.239 now residing in Houston, Texas. I always appreciate the opportunity 2074 01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:53.399 to catch up with Kenneth. What do you know, it's 2075 01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:55.520 time to start thinking football and we're only a few 2076 01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:57.520 weeks away from the best time of year, so it's 2077 01:33:57.520 --> 01:33:59.880 time to prep your field. Make sure you're using IFA 2078 01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:02.800 Step three for the weeks ahead when the weather is 2079 01:34:02.840 --> 01:34:05.279 still hot. But as the dog days of summer give 2080 01:34:05.319 --> 01:34:08.159 way to fall, it's time to start thinking about step 2081 01:34:08.199 --> 01:34:11.279 four our fall and winter lawn fertilizer. 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Here on the program 2100 01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:02.880 is DeAndre Yedlin is our guest an AE Thursday. 2101 01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:04.800 DeAndre Happy Thursday. Man, how are we doing. 2102 01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:07.600 I'm pretty good. Thank you for having me. 2103 01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:11.520 Welcome to Salt Lake, Welcome to Utah. We're very excited 2104 01:35:11.520 --> 01:35:12.239 to have you here. 2105 01:35:13.199 --> 01:35:16.239 I wonder if you could enlighten us on this process, 2106 01:35:16.279 --> 01:35:18.399 how this all went down, and how you're feeling now 2107 01:35:18.439 --> 01:35:19.319 that you're here on the ground. 2108 01:35:20.720 --> 01:35:22.159 Yeah, it was kind of a whirlwind. 2109 01:35:23.600 --> 01:35:26.640 Salt Lake had had shown some interest a bit ago, 2110 01:35:26.840 --> 01:35:29.439 so I've known about the interest for a while and 2111 01:35:29.600 --> 01:35:32.880 you know, finally boiled down, you know, to the point 2112 01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:36.479 where obviously ended up coming here. And you know, I 2113 01:35:36.520 --> 01:35:39.399 think a big, a big thing for me was uh, 2114 01:35:39.560 --> 01:35:42.079 you know, not just there, not just their commitment to 2115 01:35:42.119 --> 01:35:44.199 me now, but you know for the future that you 2116 01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:46.079 know that means a lot, and you know it shows 2117 01:35:46.119 --> 01:35:49.199 just you know, how much they value me. So I 2118 01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:51.720 was really excited to come. I'm really excited to get 2119 01:35:52.159 --> 01:35:54.640 uh in with the group and you know, hopefully make 2120 01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:56.920 a kind of a late last push for this for 2121 01:35:56.960 --> 01:35:57.760 this playoff position. 2122 01:35:58.399 --> 01:36:02.079 Now you're a Seattle kid at birth, and you've lived 2123 01:36:02.119 --> 01:36:05.560 all across the world quite frankly bouncing around Europe, and 2124 01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:08.880 you played in Cincinnati, Miami, of course, Seattle back in 2125 01:36:08.920 --> 01:36:12.000 the day. What what do you know about Utah? What 2126 01:36:12.039 --> 01:36:13.159 do you know about Salt Lake? 2127 01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:15.439 I know about the great Salt Lake. 2128 01:36:15.479 --> 01:36:15.880 I came. 2129 01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:17.680 I came down here when I think I was like 2130 01:36:17.720 --> 01:36:19.560 ten years old. I got a picture of me floating 2131 01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:22.399 into salt in the gray Salt Lake. Me and my 2132 01:36:22.439 --> 01:36:26.840 grandfather did a lot of hikes growing up, you know, obviously, 2133 01:36:26.880 --> 01:36:28.920 being from Seattle with the mountains up there also, so 2134 01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:31.359 we also did a lot of road trips. 2135 01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:32.479 So I think that road. 2136 01:36:32.319 --> 01:36:35.439 Trip specifically was kind of down through Yellowstone and then 2137 01:36:35.479 --> 01:36:36.119 to Arches. 2138 01:36:37.560 --> 01:36:39.800 So I'm a big fan of nature. 2139 01:36:39.840 --> 01:36:42.640 I love mountains, I love National parks, lakes, you know, 2140 01:36:42.680 --> 01:36:44.000 whatever it be, as long as you have to do 2141 01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:45.520 with nature, I'm a I'm a big fan of his. 2142 01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:49.520 So you know that definitely, that definitely had a learning 2143 01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:50.680 effect in pulling me here. 2144 01:36:52.279 --> 01:36:54.079 Now, what do you know about the club? What do 2145 01:36:54.079 --> 01:36:56.239 you know? I mean, I mean, it's it's an interesting thing. 2146 01:36:56.680 --> 01:36:58.920 Yeah, I mean, it's a it's a it's as far 2147 01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:01.479 as em Ols goes, the historic club in this league, 2148 01:37:02.680 --> 01:37:07.239 you know, I know, obviously this year, uh, you know, 2149 01:37:07.319 --> 01:37:10.279 middle of the pack. So I think there obviously improvements 2150 01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:12.079 can be made, but you know, at the end of 2151 01:37:12.119 --> 01:37:14.359 the day, I think there's a great team and a 2152 01:37:14.399 --> 01:37:18.800 team that can really make a push here at the end. Yeah, 2153 01:37:20.159 --> 01:37:21.880 at the end of the day, I think, you know, 2154 01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:24.560 it's a it's a great club. They've had club legends here. 2155 01:37:24.920 --> 01:37:25.079 You know. 2156 01:37:25.119 --> 01:37:27.520 I actually was able to play with both Nick Ramondo 2157 01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:30.600 and Kyle Beckerman. You know, Jason christ was a coach 2158 01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:34.439 of mine and in Miami, so I know him pretty well. 2159 01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:40.079 The GM Kurt was I don't know what his official 2160 01:37:40.119 --> 01:37:42.800 position was in Seattle when I was in the academy there, 2161 01:37:42.840 --> 01:37:45.279 but he was there when I was when I was 2162 01:37:45.279 --> 01:37:48.399 in Seattle, so I know him pretty well. John Spencer, 2163 01:37:48.399 --> 01:37:51.960 who also works works at the club. You know, I've 2164 01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:54.840 known him since I was in high school. So I 2165 01:37:54.880 --> 01:37:57.960 know quite a lot of people. Tony Belchan I played against, 2166 01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:00.239 So yeah, I know, I know quite a lot of 2167 01:38:00.239 --> 01:38:02.680 people within the club, and you know, they've all made 2168 01:38:02.680 --> 01:38:03.560 me feel so welcome. 2169 01:38:04.159 --> 01:38:07.640 So tell me, DeAndre, We're hoping to see your club 2170 01:38:07.720 --> 01:38:09.159 debut on Saturday? 2171 01:38:09.359 --> 01:38:10.039 Is that the plan? 2172 01:38:11.720 --> 01:38:12.079 I hope? 2173 01:38:12.119 --> 01:38:13.079 So yeah, I hope. 2174 01:38:13.079 --> 01:38:14.600 So you know, I want to get started as quick 2175 01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:17.479 as possible and kind of get integrated within the group. 2176 01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:20.359 So yeah, hopefully sooner rather than later. 2177 01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:24.760 What in your conversations with Pablo, who's a guest on 2178 01:38:24.800 --> 01:38:27.399 the show every week and someone I've known a long 2179 01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:29.359 time and I really have become fond of him. 2180 01:38:29.399 --> 01:38:30.760 He's a really, really good guy. 2181 01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:34.039 So I wonder what your impressions are of him, and 2182 01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:36.479 during the conversations you've had with him, what what have 2183 01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:37.920 you been asked to do so far? 2184 01:38:39.239 --> 01:38:42.319 I mean, honestly, the first time I've talked to him 2185 01:38:42.319 --> 01:38:46.159 was today. You know, obviously known I've known of Pablo 2186 01:38:46.279 --> 01:38:48.560 for quite a long time. I think, you know, everybody 2187 01:38:48.560 --> 01:38:51.279 with an MLS has. My first conversation with him was 2188 01:38:51.319 --> 01:38:54.319 actually today, and he's a great guy. He's a great 2189 01:38:54.359 --> 01:38:55.800 you can tell from just from the get go. He's 2190 01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:58.359 a great guy. He really, you know, not only cares 2191 01:38:58.359 --> 01:39:00.760 about the player, but the human asked at it as well, 2192 01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:05.319 which I truly appreciate. And yeah, I think, I mean, 2193 01:39:05.359 --> 01:39:07.399 I think, you know, a big reason why they brought 2194 01:39:07.439 --> 01:39:09.119 me in is for you know, kind of my veteran 2195 01:39:09.199 --> 01:39:12.199 presence and to two young teams, so to to help 2196 01:39:12.319 --> 01:39:17.239 lead to help kind of lead us in the right direction, 2197 01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:21.439 and you know, obviously be a presidence on the field, 2198 01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:24.319 you know, and and and try to do what I 2199 01:39:24.399 --> 01:39:27.680 do on the field, also help off the field, you know, 2200 01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:30.920 with whatever needs to be helped with. So yeah, I 2201 01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:34.359 think just add that that layer of maturity in and 2202 01:39:35.560 --> 01:39:38.119 you know, help help this team achieve great things. 2203 01:39:38.920 --> 01:39:42.479 How familiar are you, DeAndre with this roster? 2204 01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:45.159 And obviously it's going to be a learning curve because 2205 01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:48.199 they just brought in Roland Cruise as well as Victor 2206 01:39:48.199 --> 01:39:51.520 Olatunji to big acquisition during the summer windows, so it 2207 01:39:51.600 --> 01:39:53.800 is kind of a new group. And as you referenced earlier, 2208 01:39:54.119 --> 01:39:56.600 it's getting late early. There's only eight matches left to 2209 01:39:56.640 --> 01:39:58.399 try to get this club across the playoff line. 2210 01:39:58.439 --> 01:39:59.960 So what do you know about your new teammates? 2211 01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:02.760 Yeah, I mean I obviously know about a lot. I 2212 01:40:03.159 --> 01:40:06.079 haven't played with any of them previously in any of 2213 01:40:06.079 --> 01:40:07.760 my previous clubs, but I do know a lot of 2214 01:40:08.159 --> 01:40:13.319 about the players here, whether that's been you know, speaking 2215 01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:17.359 with players that I've played with the players here or whatnot. 2216 01:40:17.439 --> 01:40:20.359 So you know, I feel like I feel like I 2217 01:40:20.399 --> 01:40:21.319 do know them, But today it is. 2218 01:40:21.319 --> 01:40:23.840 My first day of training. So you know, it's good 2219 01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:25.239 to get out and get to know the guys a 2220 01:40:25.279 --> 01:40:26.920 little bit. And it's a great group. You know, they, 2221 01:40:27.119 --> 01:40:29.960 like I said, they welcome me in, you know, so 2222 01:40:29.960 --> 01:40:32.880 so easily. So it was really good to get out 2223 01:40:32.880 --> 01:40:36.000 with them. And you know, they obviously have some some 2224 01:40:36.079 --> 01:40:38.920 great talent on the team, great young talent. And you 2225 01:40:38.960 --> 01:40:42.920 know that excites me, you know because usually usually the 2226 01:40:42.520 --> 01:40:45.640 the the young guys are super hungry, and I like that. 2227 01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:47.399 I like that, you know, kind of just head down 2228 01:40:47.439 --> 01:40:49.479 and work, and you know, that's what you need, that's 2229 01:40:49.479 --> 01:40:51.319 what you need to to win championships. 2230 01:40:52.039 --> 01:40:56.039 So ultimately, you are also married with two young children. 2231 01:40:56.159 --> 01:40:58.319 And did I read that your wife is from the Bronx. 2232 01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:01.239 She is from the Bronx. Yeah, she is from the Bronx. 2233 01:41:01.439 --> 01:41:04.319 Yeah, DeAndre where I'm a Northeast kid. I grew up 2234 01:41:04.319 --> 01:41:06.840 in Connecticut. It's a little where we're a little bit 2235 01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:08.520 far away from the Bronx. 2236 01:41:08.520 --> 01:41:10.159 Salt Lake is not necessarily Bronx. 2237 01:41:10.279 --> 01:41:12.640 I've got to know what was your wife's reaction when 2238 01:41:12.640 --> 01:41:14.239 you said, Babe, we're moving to Salt Lake. 2239 01:41:14.960 --> 01:41:15.199 Yeah? 2240 01:41:15.279 --> 01:41:18.359 She I mean, she's she's been amazing throughout my whole career. 2241 01:41:18.439 --> 01:41:21.640 She was out with me in Newcastle. She moved with 2242 01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:25.279 me when I went to Turkey, obviously, to Miami, to 2243 01:41:25.319 --> 01:41:29.279 Cincinnati and out here. So she's she's all those places 2244 01:41:29.279 --> 01:41:32.680 were so different. She's adapted to every to every place, 2245 01:41:32.720 --> 01:41:36.079 and she truly is you know, she truly is that rock, 2246 01:41:37.359 --> 01:41:39.039 you know, because obviously I'm on the road a lot, 2247 01:41:39.159 --> 01:41:41.680 so you know, she's the one that stays behind with 2248 01:41:41.720 --> 01:41:45.520 the kids and she makes my life way way easier. 2249 01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:49.119 But she was excited, you know, she knows how into 2250 01:41:49.520 --> 01:41:52.520 the mountains and you know, hiking and that sort of 2251 01:41:52.560 --> 01:41:54.640 life that I am. So she's excited to kind of 2252 01:41:54.640 --> 01:41:58.760 see that aspect of it because we haven't really lived 2253 01:41:58.800 --> 01:42:00.720 in a place, you know, since we've been together that 2254 01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:03.399 has been able to offer that. So we're excited to 2255 01:42:03.399 --> 01:42:05.760 get out and get on some adventures out in the mountains. 2256 01:42:06.399 --> 01:42:09.239 So once upon a time, DeAndre, you were the youngest 2257 01:42:09.239 --> 01:42:12.760 player on the World Cup roster in twenty fourteen, and look, 2258 01:42:12.840 --> 01:42:15.479 father time comes for us. All you blink and suddenly 2259 01:42:15.479 --> 01:42:18.439 you're thirty two and you're the wily old vet top 2260 01:42:18.520 --> 01:42:21.880 to tell me about the evolution the process going from 2261 01:42:21.960 --> 01:42:23.880 one of the bright young stars in our country to 2262 01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:26.680 now this vet, how has your journey kind of colored 2263 01:42:26.680 --> 01:42:27.800 that context for you? 2264 01:42:29.039 --> 01:42:30.800 Yeah, it's it's been a wild ride. 2265 01:42:30.880 --> 01:42:32.880 And you know, the crazy thing is I don't feel 2266 01:42:33.119 --> 01:42:35.079 a day older than when I started, you know, so 2267 01:42:35.840 --> 01:42:40.039 you know, obviously, you know physically it casts up with you, 2268 01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:43.279 but you know, mentally, I still feel young, I still 2269 01:42:43.279 --> 01:42:47.720 feel energetic. But it's been an amazing journey. And I've 2270 01:42:47.800 --> 01:42:51.640 learned so much along this journey. I think even more 2271 01:42:51.760 --> 01:42:54.359 than which are probably surprised people, even more than on 2272 01:42:54.479 --> 01:42:58.880 the field growth off the field, I've grown a ton, 2273 01:42:59.199 --> 01:43:01.119 and I think I see a lot of that credigois 2274 01:43:01.159 --> 01:43:05.039 to my kids. I think becoming a father has really, 2275 01:43:05.399 --> 01:43:07.479 you know, given me a whole new perspective on life. 2276 01:43:07.520 --> 01:43:10.960 But now I wouldn't change anything. I wouldn't change anything 2277 01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:14.920 I've done. I have no regrets within my career because 2278 01:43:14.920 --> 01:43:17.279 everything has led me to hear and ultimately this is, 2279 01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:20.000 this is at this point where I want to be, 2280 01:43:20.359 --> 01:43:22.840 and I'm glad I'm here. 2281 01:43:22.880 --> 01:43:23.079 Now? 2282 01:43:23.760 --> 01:43:25.039 Is there? 2283 01:43:25.079 --> 01:43:27.760 You know, when you look at your resume, you've accomplished 2284 01:43:27.800 --> 01:43:31.039 a lot in this game, You've accomplished a lot as 2285 01:43:31.039 --> 01:43:34.439 a player. Is there a single highlight. Is it a 2286 01:43:34.439 --> 01:43:37.399 World Cup call up? Is it going overseas and playing 2287 01:43:37.439 --> 01:43:40.279 in Europe? Is there one highlight that you're most proud of? 2288 01:43:44.239 --> 01:43:48.119 Honestly, honestly, it is just playing in front of my kids. 2289 01:43:50.039 --> 01:43:51.880 That's that's really the biggest thing for me. I'm a 2290 01:43:52.239 --> 01:43:56.000 huge family guy, and you know, I try to keep 2291 01:43:56.119 --> 01:43:58.079 the main thing the main thing, and I know for 2292 01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:00.000 me the main thing is my kids and my family. 2293 01:44:00.840 --> 01:44:05.119 Soccer is second to that. So, you know the fact 2294 01:44:05.119 --> 01:44:06.720 that I'm able to play in front of them and 2295 01:44:06.840 --> 01:44:10.399 they're they're able to see their father, you know, play 2296 01:44:10.479 --> 01:44:12.479 like they They still ask questions when people come up 2297 01:44:12.479 --> 01:44:14.520 and try to take pictures of me, like why is 2298 01:44:14.520 --> 01:44:16.119 that person taking a picture with you? So they don't 2299 01:44:16.199 --> 01:44:19.319 understand completely yet, but you know, that was one of 2300 01:44:19.359 --> 01:44:21.000 the things when I was younger that I always dreamed 2301 01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:23.439 of was being able to have my kids watch me play. 2302 01:44:23.479 --> 01:44:26.039 So to be able to feel that dream has been 2303 01:44:26.159 --> 01:44:29.479 has been nice. And hopefully I can uh lift the championship, 2304 01:44:29.560 --> 01:44:30.720 you know, with them Washington as well. 2305 01:44:31.199 --> 01:44:33.760 I've just got to know what it's like because I 2306 01:44:33.840 --> 01:44:37.479 read that you you were the captain in Miami and 2307 01:44:37.520 --> 01:44:39.960 then they then they acquired a player. Let me see 2308 01:44:39.960 --> 01:44:43.199 if I can pronounce this name right, uh in Leonal Messi? 2309 01:44:43.279 --> 01:44:45.479 What what was it? What was it like to hand 2310 01:44:45.520 --> 01:44:47.560 the captain's arm band the legal Messi? 2311 01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:52.279 I mean it was a pretty easy thing for me 2312 01:44:52.359 --> 01:44:53.359 because I'm not going to be. 2313 01:44:53.319 --> 01:44:55.760 On the field with Messi and and and. 2314 01:44:55.239 --> 01:44:58.760 Be the captain. So I was like, yeah, you you 2315 01:44:58.800 --> 01:45:01.880 take this, my friend, But no, it was it was 2316 01:45:01.920 --> 01:45:04.000 an amazing experience. You know, he's he's a player that 2317 01:45:04.840 --> 01:45:07.640 you know, not only myself, but I think probably everybody 2318 01:45:07.640 --> 01:45:13.039 playing now like soccer nowadays, grew up watching and admiring 2319 01:45:13.119 --> 01:45:15.720 and you know, he was a he was a hero 2320 01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:18.039 to a lot of people. So you know, to be 2321 01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:19.720 able to share the field with him and see how 2322 01:45:19.720 --> 01:45:23.119 he goes through life and how he goes through you know, 2323 01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:26.960 his his daily routines, it was incredible and it was 2324 01:45:27.319 --> 01:45:29.920 cool insight because you know, at the end of the day, 2325 01:45:29.960 --> 01:45:32.119 what I realized about him is he's he's a guy 2326 01:45:32.199 --> 01:45:35.079 that loves his kids, that loves his wife, that is 2327 01:45:35.079 --> 01:45:37.760 a family men. And you know a lot of people 2328 01:45:37.800 --> 01:45:40.159 don't get to see, I think that side of him 2329 01:45:40.159 --> 01:45:42.319 because that everybody only watched him on the field. But 2330 01:45:42.640 --> 01:45:44.920 you know as a family guy myself, I really respected 2331 01:45:44.920 --> 01:45:49.199 that aspect of him because you don't you don't see 2332 01:45:49.279 --> 01:45:54.720 many great athletes that also are great family men. You know, 2333 01:45:54.760 --> 01:45:57.039 it's he is one or the other usually sort of 2334 01:45:57.119 --> 01:45:58.920 for him to be able to juggle both of those, 2335 01:46:01.079 --> 01:46:02.760 for him to be able to juggle both of those, 2336 01:46:03.560 --> 01:46:05.600 you know, because it makes me have a lot of 2337 01:46:05.640 --> 01:46:06.279 respect for him. 2338 01:46:07.039 --> 01:46:10.039 I mean, I don't mean to geek out on this dynamic. 2339 01:46:10.119 --> 01:46:13.640 I just think it's it's so incredible that he is here, 2340 01:46:13.800 --> 01:46:17.079 and it's so incredible that we have the opportunity to 2341 01:46:17.159 --> 01:46:20.199 watch him play in the United States. I never thought 2342 01:46:20.199 --> 01:46:22.600 it would be a reality. So I've got I've got 2343 01:46:22.600 --> 01:46:25.560 to ask you what was it like to experience just 2344 01:46:26.119 --> 01:46:28.560 his brilliance every day in training? Are they are there 2345 01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:30.680 things to learn? Or is it like he's just on 2346 01:46:30.760 --> 01:46:31.800 kind of his own level? 2347 01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:34.479 Is it is it? Is it even hard to focus 2348 01:46:34.520 --> 01:46:35.880 when you're watching brilliance like that? 2349 01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:39.039 Yeah, No, I mean he's on his own level obviously. 2350 01:46:39.760 --> 01:46:41.680 You know, you can try to replicate the things that 2351 01:46:41.720 --> 01:46:43.600 he does, but you know you're not gonna be able to. 2352 01:46:44.720 --> 01:46:48.159 So it's really just about it's just about accepting it 2353 01:46:48.199 --> 01:46:51.399 and just enjoying the show while it's while it's on. 2354 01:46:51.520 --> 01:46:54.560 You know, obviously father time catches up to him as well, 2355 01:46:54.560 --> 01:46:55.800 and you know he's not gonna be able to go 2356 01:46:55.840 --> 01:46:58.640 on forever. So you know, it's just really just about 2357 01:46:58.680 --> 01:47:01.520 enjoying it and enjoying you know, that greatness and that brilliance. 2358 01:47:01.520 --> 01:47:05.079 Well it's here, and then you know when he when 2359 01:47:05.119 --> 01:47:08.960 he retires. I'm he's obviously, in my eyes, the greatest 2360 01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:11.319 player ever to play the game. So you know, to 2361 01:47:11.359 --> 01:47:13.920 be able to say that I was able to share 2362 01:47:13.960 --> 01:47:17.399 the field with him, you know, it's it's it's awesome, 2363 01:47:17.439 --> 01:47:21.359 it's a it's a great story along my journey, you know, 2364 01:47:21.479 --> 01:47:22.520 something I'll cherish. 2365 01:47:23.039 --> 01:47:25.760 You know, you have such a unique prison in perspective, 2366 01:47:25.800 --> 01:47:28.680 DeAndre when it comes to the sport in our country, 2367 01:47:28.720 --> 01:47:32.000 because you've experienced the sport elsewhere, and you've also made 2368 01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:34.520 a home in MLS and you've also played in World Cups. 2369 01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:36.039 You know, RSL has been. 2370 01:47:35.960 --> 01:47:39.000 Here twenty five years now, which is pretty wild to consider. 2371 01:47:39.880 --> 01:47:43.239 How how have you seen the game grow domestically and 2372 01:47:43.279 --> 01:47:45.359 do you believe with a World Cup cycle coming up, 2373 01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:47.479 the game will continue to trend in the right direction? 2374 01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:51.920 Yeah, I mean the game is growing in an insane 2375 01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:55.359 amount here. You know, obviously with the arrival of Messi 2376 01:47:55.439 --> 01:47:57.800 that bumps it up. Then you know, you have the 2377 01:47:57.840 --> 01:47:59.640 Club World Cup that bumps it up. The World Cup 2378 01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:03.000 is coming that will bump it up. And just you know, 2379 01:48:03.079 --> 01:48:06.840 since I've been back from Europe, the level of play 2380 01:48:06.880 --> 01:48:13.479 has gotten exponentially better, the facilities, the stadiums, even even 2381 01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:16.439 down to like how the fans understand the game, you know, 2382 01:48:16.520 --> 01:48:19.439 because you know, back when I back when I started, 2383 01:48:19.479 --> 01:48:22.479 you know, it's still it's still young in America. Wasn't 2384 01:48:22.760 --> 01:48:25.119 like super super young, but it's still young, and there's 2385 01:48:25.520 --> 01:48:28.600 there's times that fans don't really understand what was going on. 2386 01:48:28.960 --> 01:48:31.760 But you can tell they understand the game now and 2387 01:48:31.840 --> 01:48:35.479 you know, for things that should be clapped for, they 2388 01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:38.600 clap for, you know, which is something you see a 2389 01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:40.520 lot in Europe. You know, the fans truly do understand 2390 01:48:40.560 --> 01:48:43.279 the game. So it's nice nice to see over here. 2391 01:48:44.479 --> 01:48:47.760 I think you see the expectation now of US fans 2392 01:48:47.840 --> 01:48:50.760 and you know, they expect, you know, really high things 2393 01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:52.720 from the US team, which I think is awesome because 2394 01:48:53.039 --> 01:48:55.199 you know, I don't think that was the case thirty 2395 01:48:55.279 --> 01:48:55.760 years ago. 2396 01:48:56.520 --> 01:48:57.039 Or whatnot. 2397 01:48:57.560 --> 01:49:01.640 So, yeah, it's growing, going exponentially. It's great to see. 2398 01:49:01.680 --> 01:49:03.520 I think it's only going to grow even more. And 2399 01:49:04.720 --> 01:49:07.239 you know, all that means is is you know, better 2400 01:49:07.279 --> 01:49:11.760 players being produced and you know, better talent for this country. 2401 01:49:12.199 --> 01:49:14.479 When you were a young player, when you were coming 2402 01:49:14.560 --> 01:49:17.279 up through the youth ranks, did you have because I 2403 01:49:17.279 --> 01:49:19.560 always find this interesting, you know, when it comes to 2404 01:49:19.840 --> 01:49:23.319 the visions people had for their careers. Did you have 2405 01:49:23.479 --> 01:49:25.680 the goal of playing in a World Cup? Did you 2406 01:49:25.720 --> 01:49:27.880 have the goal of playing in Europe? Or has your 2407 01:49:27.920 --> 01:49:30.960 career even outshot your own dreams what you thought you 2408 01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:31.399 could do. 2409 01:49:32.479 --> 01:49:34.479 Yeah, I mean I I had a dream of going 2410 01:49:34.520 --> 01:49:36.119 I had dreams of going to Europe. I had dreams 2411 01:49:36.119 --> 01:49:41.720 of playing the World Cup. But yeah, I mean as honestly, 2412 01:49:41.760 --> 01:49:44.960 as as soon as I really turned as I turned professional, 2413 01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:48.279 it wasn't I didn't really even think about those sorts 2414 01:49:48.279 --> 01:49:48.600 of things. 2415 01:49:48.600 --> 01:49:49.279 It was just kind of. 2416 01:49:49.239 --> 01:49:53.159 Taking it day by day and you know, just kind 2417 01:49:53.159 --> 01:49:56.319 of going with the flow if you will, you know, 2418 01:49:56.399 --> 01:50:00.239 it's there's It's not often I sit and think act 2419 01:50:00.279 --> 01:50:02.600 on my career. Sometimes I take time to do it, but. 2420 01:50:04.079 --> 01:50:04.840 You know, so much of. 2421 01:50:04.840 --> 01:50:07.000 It is just day by day, and that's how I 2422 01:50:07.039 --> 01:50:09.720 try to live my life. You know, tomorrow's not promised, 2423 01:50:09.720 --> 01:50:12.359 so you know, I just try to live in the president, 2424 01:50:12.439 --> 01:50:16.119 live in the present moment, and you know, what will 2425 01:50:16.119 --> 01:50:20.479 be will be. Kind of I I personally is, especially 2426 01:50:20.520 --> 01:50:23.720 with kids coming into my life, understand there's more important 2427 01:50:23.720 --> 01:50:27.800 things than soccer, So you know, I don't want to 2428 01:50:27.840 --> 01:50:31.199 make that like the you know, this is my ultimate 2429 01:50:31.279 --> 01:50:34.840 dream or my you know, ultimate goal. But yeah, I 2430 01:50:34.880 --> 01:50:37.439 think for me, it's just it's taking it day by 2431 01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:39.560 day and what will be will be, and just try 2432 01:50:39.640 --> 01:50:40.720 at the end of the day, try to do the 2433 01:50:40.720 --> 01:50:41.159 best you can. 2434 01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:43.079 Oh, you and Pablo are going to get it. 2435 01:50:43.760 --> 01:50:48.520 You're going to get along with Pablo so well. 2436 01:50:48.079 --> 01:50:53.399 Yeah, I've heard. I've heard he's into grounding, which I'm 2437 01:50:53.560 --> 01:50:56.079 very into as well. So we'll have to get some 2438 01:50:56.079 --> 01:50:57.239 grounding sessions. 2439 01:50:56.840 --> 01:51:00.960 In grounding meditation. You will find him meditation. 2440 01:51:01.199 --> 01:51:02.840 Yeah, I love it. I love it. 2441 01:51:02.920 --> 01:51:04.039 You're gonna get along really well. 2442 01:51:04.079 --> 01:51:06.279 Do you do you have any boxes you would like 2443 01:51:06.359 --> 01:51:08.239 to check that you haven't checked yet. I know you're 2444 01:51:08.239 --> 01:51:10.399 an in the moment guy you're focused on right now, 2445 01:51:10.439 --> 01:51:12.399 but is there anything you feel like you have left 2446 01:51:12.399 --> 01:51:13.439 to accomplish. 2447 01:51:13.520 --> 01:51:15.239 I mean in MLS so far, I haven't won an 2448 01:51:15.319 --> 01:51:18.760 MLS Cup, so I have won every other well besides 2449 01:51:18.800 --> 01:51:21.439 like a Champions League here, but I haven't won an 2450 01:51:21.520 --> 01:51:24.760 MLS Cup. So I would love to do that here 2451 01:51:24.800 --> 01:51:28.840 in Salt Lake. I think, you know, we're building a 2452 01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:32.560 great team to be able to accomplish that. So that's 2453 01:51:32.960 --> 01:51:35.840 that's kind of a main goal here is to is 2454 01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:36.520 to achieve that. 2455 01:51:37.119 --> 01:51:39.039 What do you like to do when you're not playing soccer? 2456 01:51:39.039 --> 01:51:40.680 I know you got those kiddos in the life. Is 2457 01:51:40.720 --> 01:51:42.600 it just family time when you're not playing. 2458 01:51:42.680 --> 01:51:46.000 It's it's family time. I'm a I'm a big creative person, 2459 01:51:46.720 --> 01:51:50.560 so whether it's drawing or some sort of art fashion, 2460 01:51:52.520 --> 01:51:54.439 I love. I love really anything that has to do 2461 01:51:54.479 --> 01:51:59.439 with creativity. I love the mountain, so here I'll probably 2462 01:51:59.479 --> 01:52:02.119 be hiking and you know, driving up in the mountains 2463 01:52:02.119 --> 01:52:05.880 and you know, just enjoy being in nature. You know, 2464 01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:08.159 enjoy taking my kids up there. They haven't really seen 2465 01:52:08.720 --> 01:52:13.159 anything like this in their lifetime, so I think it'll 2466 01:52:13.159 --> 01:52:15.920 be pretty special because you know, it was literally at 2467 01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:17.960 the age that they are now that my grandfather started 2468 01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:21.359 taking me. So it'll be a cool kind of I 2469 01:52:21.319 --> 01:52:23.279 want to say full circle moment, but just kind of 2470 01:52:23.319 --> 01:52:26.439 continuing to continue the path of you know, getting down 2471 01:52:26.439 --> 01:52:27.119 to nature young. 2472 01:52:27.720 --> 01:52:29.399 All right, before I say you lose, I gotta ask 2473 01:52:29.399 --> 01:52:32.279 you this question. I asked Diego, Diego Luna the same question. 2474 01:52:32.479 --> 01:52:35.640 I am fascinated with what I refer to as neck 2475 01:52:35.760 --> 01:52:38.880 tattoo confidence, neck tack confidence. 2476 01:52:38.920 --> 01:52:41.960 Where does where does that come from? The neck tack confidence? 2477 01:52:42.880 --> 01:52:46.359 Honestly, I was like, all right, I've had I'm trying 2478 01:52:46.359 --> 01:52:47.960 to think when I got it. When I got my 2479 01:52:48.079 --> 01:52:53.920 neck tat, yeah, I was like, I've been playing for 2480 01:52:54.479 --> 01:52:57.039 long enough now I feel like if I need to 2481 01:52:57.039 --> 01:52:59.520 get a job after, I can do something in the game. 2482 01:53:00.199 --> 01:53:02.359 So I think I'm safe to get a neck tat. 2483 01:53:02.880 --> 01:53:03.239 I was. 2484 01:53:03.760 --> 01:53:05.640 I was holding out on it a bit just because 2485 01:53:05.640 --> 01:53:07.000 I'm like, I don't know if I'm gonna have to 2486 01:53:07.079 --> 01:53:10.720 work a nine to five or something after. But I figured, 2487 01:53:10.800 --> 01:53:13.760 you know, hopefully, if I if I'm gonna work, I 2488 01:53:13.760 --> 01:53:18.199 can do something within the game, and and they're they're 2489 01:53:18.199 --> 01:53:20.359 not going to be too pressed about it. Some necktats, 2490 01:53:20.399 --> 01:53:22.039 So yeah, it's. 2491 01:53:21.960 --> 01:53:24.359 Uh, I love it. I love it. 2492 01:53:24.439 --> 01:53:26.960 I think it's I think it's awesome. I love Diego tattoos. 2493 01:53:26.960 --> 01:53:30.439 I think I think they show us character and you know, 2494 01:53:30.720 --> 01:53:36.000 allow him to be an individual. And yeah, it's it's awesome. 2495 01:53:36.239 --> 01:53:38.159 I got asked the question today if we're gonna have 2496 01:53:38.199 --> 01:53:43.520 a top tattoo count competition, so we we may be 2497 01:53:43.640 --> 01:53:45.880 doing that in one of these one of these upcoming days. 2498 01:53:46.239 --> 01:53:47.079 No, I love it, man. 2499 01:53:47.119 --> 01:53:49.199 I think if you're in a scrap and you see 2500 01:53:49.199 --> 01:53:50.840 a guy roll up on you in a neck tat, 2501 01:53:50.880 --> 01:53:52.560 you better turn around and walk the other way. 2502 01:53:52.640 --> 01:53:52.800 Man. 2503 01:53:52.840 --> 01:53:54.479 I mean it's I think it's a. 2504 01:53:54.479 --> 01:53:59.119 Message exactly exactly, a little a little fake intimidation there, 2505 01:53:59.319 --> 01:54:00.159 you know the vibe. 2506 01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:02.840 Love it man. Well, look, welcome to Salt Lake. I 2507 01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:03.800 do think you'll love it here. 2508 01:54:04.039 --> 01:54:06.039 It's good living man, and best of luck, and we 2509 01:54:06.079 --> 01:54:07.520 hope to see a debut on Saturday. 2510 01:54:07.560 --> 01:54:09.000 Okay, I appreciate that. 2511 01:54:09.039 --> 01:54:10.000 Thank you so much. All right. 2512 01:54:10.039 --> 01:54:12.680 DeAndre Yedlin the newest member of Raal sal Lake who's 2513 01:54:12.680 --> 01:54:16.680 accomplished almost all you can accomplish as a soccer player. 2514 01:54:17.199 --> 01:54:19.880 Certainly raised here in the United States, He's a Seattle 2515 01:54:19.960 --> 01:54:23.560 kid born in Seattle, spent his early years in MLS 2516 01:54:23.600 --> 01:54:27.439 with the Sounders, fifty six appearances with them, spent a 2517 01:54:27.520 --> 01:54:30.640 minute with my Tottenham Hotspur, but was transferred to Sunderland 2518 01:54:30.680 --> 01:54:34.560 and then made most of his European experience with Newcastle 2519 01:54:34.680 --> 01:54:37.439 United one hundred and twelve appearances at three goals for them. 2520 01:54:37.920 --> 01:54:40.039 Spent a little time in Turkey, then came back and 2521 01:54:40.079 --> 01:54:41.199 played for Miami. 2522 01:54:41.319 --> 01:54:43.600 I think that was a DP acquisition for Miami. 2523 01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:46.760 Was named captain, and then Miami acquired a guy named 2524 01:54:46.840 --> 01:54:50.279 Leono Messi, and then DeAndre gave him the captain's arm 2525 01:54:50.319 --> 01:54:54.159 band because well, you know. Sixty five appearance with Miami, 2526 01:54:54.239 --> 01:54:59.399 most recently with Cincinnati, fifty five appearances there, eighty five 2527 01:54:59.560 --> 01:55:02.319 caps with the US men's national team. The only player 2528 01:55:02.359 --> 01:55:06.800 that played for both the two thousand and twelve team, No. 2529 01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:10.279 Twenty fourteen team the twenty twenty two team. So that 2530 01:55:10.359 --> 01:55:14.479 twenty fourteen team was with Nicky and Kyle, so played 2531 01:55:14.479 --> 01:55:17.199 with Nick Romado Kyle Beckerman and then also made the 2532 01:55:17.239 --> 01:55:20.439 twenty twenty two squad as kind of a vet there. 2533 01:55:20.479 --> 01:55:23.800 So DeAndre has made the rounds. He's one of he 2534 01:55:23.880 --> 01:55:27.520 might be I don't know, the biggest star, individual star 2535 01:55:27.600 --> 01:55:31.680 that we've ever had here playing for RSL. So DeAndre 2536 01:55:31.800 --> 01:55:33.960 Yedlin the newest member of Royal Salt Lake. He is 2537 01:55:33.960 --> 01:55:35.800 a right back and that is a position that has 2538 01:55:35.840 --> 01:55:38.479 been of need for a number of years, really since 2539 01:55:38.520 --> 01:55:41.680 they sent Aaron Herrera on his way. All right, before 2540 01:55:41.720 --> 01:55:44.359 we say good night, I need a little credit here 2541 01:55:44.439 --> 01:55:50.439 because Roxy Bernstein, who is currently listening to sound check 2542 01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:54.000 for the Counting Crows and Gaslight Anthem, is awesome. I'm 2543 01:55:54.000 --> 01:55:57.199 actually jealous. I didn't know Gaslight was opening for Counting Crows. 2544 01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:00.920 So Roxy is seeing that show night, which I'm sure 2545 01:56:00.960 --> 01:56:03.119 is gonna be fun. Hopefully the weather holds up for them. 2546 01:56:03.159 --> 01:56:06.319 Out of you, Sada, But then he said tomorrow night 2547 01:56:06.479 --> 01:56:10.119 he's going to the five for Fighting concert and Porter, 2548 01:56:10.199 --> 01:56:13.239 I need a little credit because Old Spence. Okay, yes, 2549 01:56:13.279 --> 01:56:16.560 I went third person before the airing of Grievances when 2550 01:56:16.720 --> 01:56:18.720 one of our listeners took me to task for making 2551 01:56:18.760 --> 01:56:21.640 fun of other people's music. I have changed my ways 2552 01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:25.760 because Old Spence would have summarily mocked Roxy Bernstein for 2553 01:56:25.840 --> 01:56:28.439 going to a five for Fighting concert. 2554 01:56:28.479 --> 01:56:29.600 You didn't make fun of him once? 2555 01:56:30.239 --> 01:56:32.279 No, I mean I wanted to pay respect, and also 2556 01:56:32.359 --> 01:56:35.319 I'm trying to be better, a kinder, gentler Spencer and 2557 01:56:35.399 --> 01:56:36.840 five for Fighting rocks. 2558 01:56:36.640 --> 01:56:41.119 No, they don't. They very much do not. But look, teach, 2559 01:56:41.199 --> 01:56:44.239 what's the other song they have? Because or was that 2560 01:56:44.279 --> 01:56:46.239 the Superman song? Superman is? 2561 01:56:46.399 --> 01:56:46.840 Uh? 2562 01:56:46.920 --> 01:56:49.359 Yeah, that's that's the other popular one. What was it? 2563 01:56:49.399 --> 01:56:51.319 What's that easy? Yes? 2564 01:56:51.399 --> 01:56:51.840 That one? 2565 01:56:53.239 --> 01:56:55.199 Can you sing? Do you have pipes? I don't know 2566 01:56:55.239 --> 01:56:57.880 that I know this about you. Are you musically inclined? 2567 01:56:58.279 --> 01:57:02.159 So my family is all like very musically inclined. My grandpa, 2568 01:57:02.319 --> 01:57:05.159 my sister, my dad could pick up a guitar. Like, 2569 01:57:05.199 --> 01:57:09.920 they're all really really good. I can't play an instrument 2570 01:57:09.960 --> 01:57:13.079 for a lick, but when they're all playing, I can 2571 01:57:13.119 --> 01:57:13.479 carry a. 2572 01:57:13.479 --> 01:57:14.000 Tune with them. 2573 01:57:14.079 --> 01:57:18.640 Okay, all right, good stuff. But I was kind to Roxy. 2574 01:57:18.760 --> 01:57:22.399 I was respectful. I did not say anything about his 2575 01:57:22.520 --> 01:57:26.199 choice to spend time actually seeing Five for Fighting in concert. 2576 01:57:26.479 --> 01:57:30.319 And ultimately, you know, you only have so many chances 2577 01:57:30.359 --> 01:57:33.039 to see some of your favorite bands. Only you only 2578 01:57:33.039 --> 01:57:38.199 get so many opportunities to see Counting Crows and Five 2579 01:57:38.199 --> 01:57:39.560 for Fighting two days in a row. 2580 01:57:39.600 --> 01:57:42.520 Wow. See, it feels like Roxy doesn't strike me as 2581 01:57:42.560 --> 01:57:47.840 a five for Fighting guy. A five for Fighting concert feels. 2582 01:57:47.479 --> 01:57:49.359 Like it would be similar to like a bare naked 2583 01:57:49.399 --> 01:57:54.039 lady's audience, right is that fair, like that overlap of audience. 2584 01:57:54.119 --> 01:57:56.119 Yeah, I don't know exactly what that means, but yes, 2585 01:57:56.399 --> 01:58:01.399 a lot of like maybe just some wine, some wine gals, 2586 01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:07.720 some maybe like your friends that really really settled down right. 2587 01:58:08.039 --> 01:58:10.880 Yeah, a lot of married folk, a lot of people 2588 01:58:10.880 --> 01:58:13.920 that don't have time. Like if you're married with multiple 2589 01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:15.760 kids and like a really busy job, you don't have 2590 01:58:15.800 --> 01:58:17.439 time to get into music. Like I was talking to 2591 01:58:17.479 --> 01:58:19.840 my brother about this when I was visiting them last week. 2592 01:58:20.199 --> 01:58:23.039 He's got a crazy busy job, he has six kids. 2593 01:58:23.439 --> 01:58:26.079 And we got into a debate because he goes, hey, 2594 01:58:26.119 --> 01:58:27.960 the Fray is here tomorrow night. Do you want to 2595 01:58:27.960 --> 01:58:30.920 go see the Fray? I'm like, what, why would you 2596 01:58:30.960 --> 01:58:32.880 bring that up? He's like, wait, you don't like the Fray. 2597 01:58:32.880 --> 01:58:36.600 I'm like, Andrew, the Fray sucks. I'm not going to 2598 01:58:36.680 --> 01:58:39.439 a Fray concert. And he's like, look, I don't have 2599 01:58:39.560 --> 01:58:42.880 time to get into music. I just remembered a Fray song, 2600 01:58:43.119 --> 01:58:44.720 like I think it's how to Save a Life or 2601 01:58:44.720 --> 01:58:47.439 something from like twenty years ago. And I saw that 2602 01:58:47.439 --> 01:58:49.079 they were in town. I know you like music. I 2603 01:58:49.079 --> 01:58:50.479 thought you might want to go. I'm like, I'm not 2604 01:58:50.560 --> 01:58:53.359 going to a Fray concert, but is it. Look, I'm 2605 01:58:53.399 --> 01:58:57.880 just yes that song. I'm single, I have one child 2606 01:58:57.960 --> 01:59:01.119 who's grown. I have time to listen to a lot 2607 01:59:01.159 --> 01:59:03.800 of different music to decide what I like. So I 2608 01:59:03.840 --> 01:59:08.079 would say the Fray five for fighting bare naked ladies 2609 01:59:09.000 --> 01:59:11.800 people that are married with kids and have a busy life, like, yeah, 2610 01:59:11.880 --> 01:59:15.039 I'll go to a concert tonight, so do your thing. 2611 01:59:15.800 --> 01:59:18.880 Yeah, I don't totally disagree with you. Just to be clear, 2612 01:59:18.920 --> 01:59:21.520 I was kind of playing Devil's advocate with the five 2613 01:59:21.560 --> 01:59:24.960 for Fighting. I will say, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty 2614 01:59:25.000 --> 01:59:27.359 sure one hundred years is saved on my Spotify. 2615 01:59:27.760 --> 01:59:30.159 Well, and I'm sure it's probably saved on mine, right, 2616 01:59:30.239 --> 01:59:32.319 And I'm sure the Fray song or I've got a 2617 01:59:32.319 --> 01:59:35.199 few bare naked lady songs like Brian Wilson. 2618 01:59:35.600 --> 01:59:37.000 There we go. You know, So. 2619 01:59:38.520 --> 01:59:41.239 I'm being hypocritical because I'm sure there I have train 2620 01:59:41.439 --> 01:59:42.560 songs on a playlist. 2621 01:59:42.600 --> 01:59:45.079 Okay, So like I'm not above the Fray. Look at 2622 01:59:45.119 --> 01:59:45.760 what I did there? 2623 01:59:47.079 --> 01:59:50.319 Oh well yeah see bringing it back around, we do 2624 01:59:50.399 --> 01:59:52.239 have the details. If you give a rip about the 2625 01:59:52.279 --> 01:59:56.159 DeAndre Jedlin acquisition, RSL sent three hundred and four point 2626 01:59:56.319 --> 02:00:00.119 seven million or a thousand that would be ridiculous. Three 2627 02:00:00.239 --> 02:00:02.239 hundred and four point seven thousand dollars. 2628 02:00:02.039 --> 02:00:04.119 In GAM finally spend in which. 2629 02:00:03.960 --> 02:00:07.680 Is called general allocation money, and that's the number that 2630 02:00:07.760 --> 02:00:10.479 since he had on their salary cap already, so RSL 2631 02:00:10.520 --> 02:00:13.800 didn't really give up a whole lot. Buddy Hidalgo is 2632 02:00:13.840 --> 02:00:16.279 on his way to Montreal, and DeAndre Yedlin is here 2633 02:00:16.399 --> 02:00:18.720 in Salt Lake, all right. Day two of the Tour 2634 02:00:18.840 --> 02:00:22.279 Championship tomorrow will be one day away from college football. 2635 02:00:22.279 --> 02:00:25.239 Tomorrow it'll be Christmas Eve for college football fans, eight 2636 02:00:25.319 --> 02:00:28.279 days away from Utah football and then under two weeks 2637 02:00:28.319 --> 02:00:30.680 away from pro football. So it is that time of Yearporter, 2638 02:00:30.760 --> 02:00:33.840 what comes our way? On a Friday edition of the show. 2639 02:00:33.640 --> 02:00:37.159 A Football Friday, dare i say? Edition of the Drive 2640 02:00:37.600 --> 02:00:42.279 Live from Dublin, our resident Irishman's Chris Camronnie will not 2641 02:00:42.359 --> 02:00:46.760 join the program. Morgan Scally On a Football Friday on 2642 02:00:47.039 --> 02:00:50.720 the Drive, Paul Pugmyer with the latest from the PGA 2643 02:00:50.840 --> 02:00:54.920 Tour Championship, and then Trevor Riley will join the program. 2644 02:00:55.279 --> 02:00:57.960 Of course, a little bit of over a week out 2645 02:00:58.079 --> 02:00:59.239 from Utah football. 2646 02:00:59.279 --> 02:01:01.479 There you go, that'll be a fun Friday show. Get 2647 02:01:01.520 --> 02:01:03.439 that weekend started out the right way and make sure 2648 02:01:03.439 --> 02:01:06.159 to join us. We will say goodnight special thank you 2649 02:01:06.199 --> 02:01:10.199 today to Roxy Bernstein, Rex Hoggard, Kenneth Scott and DeAndre 2650 02:01:10.479 --> 02:01:13.039 Jedlinn For any of the sound from the show you missed. 2651 02:01:13.600 --> 02:01:16.880 Website is ESPN seven hundred sports dot com. Make sure 2652 02:01:16.880 --> 02:01:18.800 to download a mobile app and take us on the gop. 2653 02:01:18.800 --> 02:01:21.640 It's how I listen to the station. ESPN seven hundred 2654 02:01:21.680 --> 02:01:23.239 app is available in the App Store in the Google 2655 02:01:23.239 --> 02:01:25.880 play Store. Then, finally, for what we do in our 2656 02:01:25.960 --> 02:01:29.079 space every afternoon for four hours, check out the podcast page. 2657 02:01:29.119 --> 02:01:31.199 It's called The Drive with Spence. Check it's It's available 2658 02:01:31.199 --> 02:01:34.359 wherever you get your shows. Subscribe, rate, review, say nice 2659 02:01:34.399 --> 02:01:36.079 things in the comments, and give us all the stars. 2660 02:01:36.079 --> 02:01:38.000 It actually helps reporter. I'm spend saying to night. Have 2661 02:01:38.000 --> 02:01:40.199 a great Thursday evening. We'll talk to you on a 2662 02:01:40.279 --> 02:01:42.880 jam pack Friday edition of the program as all as 2663 02:01:42.880 --> 02:01:45.479 you can catch it right here on ESPN seven hundred 2664 02:01:45.520 --> 02:01:47.000 ninety two and FFM. We are proud to be part 2665 02:01:47.000 --> 02:01:48.960 of Utah's ESPN Radio Network.