Speaker 1: I actually started doing Star Wars content.
Speaker 2: Believe it or not, I was known as Star Wars Tanks,
and it was doing pretty much the same thing, answering questions.
But if there's one thing that Star Wars fans hate
more than a conservative, it's a Christian. And so once
I found that out, well they all turned on me.
I've never wavered on my faith in God, but I'm
actually glad that he allowed all that to happen. The
hardest thing I ever had to do was pray for
the people that were persecuting me. And until you actually
have to do that, you have no idea how hard
that is.
Speaker 1: But I made myself do it.
Speaker 2: And I had to do it, you know, honestly, like
three times before I actually meant it. But I kept
doing it, and eventually my heart was healed. It absolutely worked.
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Speaker 5: They call it terror sin, But.
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much appreciated. Well, guys, got a great show for you
lined up. This is a man that's out on the
social media's. He's spreading the word of God, doing Bible
studies taking questions and I think we might just break
the internet today, guys, because I was talking to our
guest pre role, and I said, we might just break
the internet, man, because this is the first of its kind.
And then he says, well, technically no, because Kermit the
Frog has been on the news a lot. And I
was like, well, yeah, that is true. So I like
to welcome to the show for the first time, hopefully
the first of many Dinks the Puppet.
Speaker 1: Danks, thank you for.
Speaker 5: Coming out and hanging out with us, not brother, oh
my pleasure.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me Ny.
Speaker 5: For those that's maybe not stumbled across you on the
social media, just kind of give a little background, introduce
yourself and what you do, sir.
Speaker 2: No, sure, So I can be found at Dinks the
Puppet and it's I've got my material on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram,
and Facebook, so all the Big four. And typically what
I do is I'll either answer Bible questions or I'll
do maybe rebuttal videos of people who have problems with
the Bible, or answer questions as a live answer. But
it's all video based and it's all trying to give
people the answers they're looking for.
Speaker 5: Well, look, how long have you been doing it and
what kind of led you into doing this? Well, well,
that's kind of a long story. So if first I
actually started doing Star Wars content, believe it or not,
I was known as Star Wars Dians, and it was
doing pretty much the same thing, answering questions. But if
there's one thing that Star Wars fans hate more than
a conservative, it's a Christian. So once I found that out,
well they all turned on me. And then of course
comes all the typical insults like homophobe and racist, even
though you know, yep, whatever. So I've never wavered on
my faith in God, but I'm actually glad that he
allowed all that to happen. I learned some valuable lessons
with that. First Off, it was a huge waste of time.
It didn't save anybody's soul. It was just Star Wars,
you know. And secondly, I learned how to forgive. You know,
the hardest thing I ever had to do was pray
for the people that were persecuting me.
Speaker 2: And until you actually have to do that, you have
no idea how hard that is. But I made myself
do it, and I had to do it, you know, Honestly,
like three times before I actually meant it. But I
kept doing it, and eventually my heart was healed.
Speaker 1: It worked.
Speaker 2: So after that, I took kind of a year off
just because I was getting death threats and I didn't
really want you know, I didn't want my family to
be involved, so I just shut everything down. But it
was kind of you know, almost a year later when
I really felt what pastors called the ministry itch. You
have this desire that you're just supposed to do something.
You can't just sit there and do nothing. And I
knew what I was good at. I knew I could
do this, and the thought had always occurred to me,
if I could do it for Star Wars, I could
do it for the Bible, you know, why not?
Speaker 1: And so I went ahead and started doing it.
Speaker 2: But I was like, well, God, I don't really want
to go back to TikTok because I'm afraid of the
backlash from before. Well you know, his response was, where
do you think the people are that need me? You know,
It's like, oh, yeah, okay. So I did all four
platforms and the backlash wasn't nearly as bad as I
was expecting. Thankfully. Still get people who, you know, say things,
but eh, oh well, and so now just been doing
pretty well and still answering questions.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just doom scrolling one day and I
happened to come across you. And of course, I mean,
you're you're scrolling and you're seeing a shmortgage boarder of material,
but you don't see many muffets or puppets. And so
when I seen you, you know, I got maybe halfway
past the full screen there, like almost to the verge
of you know, scrolling right past, and I stopped. I said, well,
what was that? And I backed up, you know, because
the algorithm usually serves you up kind of stuff that
you're into, that you're watching, and I was like, why
is it putting this on my algorithm? And then you
started talking about the Bible. I was like, oh, okay,
well this is interesting. And the first one I caught
was actually like a little it was like a Caddy
reply to someone bashing the Bible. Yeah, and it was
this woman. She was like, tell me how we believe
this story and they're you know, it's all hearsay. And
then like you interrupted and was like, do you mean
heresy because that's a totally different word. I was like
Oh gosh, I'm gonna love this guy.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, there are people who don't believe
that humor has a place in the church, and I couldn't,
you know, disagree anymore. The humor is absolutely of the Lord.
There's nothing bad about humor. You can corrupt humor, but
I think it has a great place in trying to
present the Gospel to people. And when I do those rebuttals,
I'm not necessarily trying to reach the person who made
the videos, because nine times out of ten they've already
blocked me before they watched the whole thing. But what
I'm trying to do is give the answers to people
who who might have stumbled across their video and the
algorithm will automatically bring them to mind, and so now
they're going to hear the other side. My goal is
to reach the people who watch the videos, not the
ones who make them. Now, I have had conversations with
people who made them, and some of them have been
very polite and respectful, but most of the time not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, ninety nine percent of the time people's people's minds
are made up. Yeah, I've told people on the show
many times, you know, excuse me, I told people many times,
I just try to have conversations that even non believers
would enjoy and not you know, beat them over the
head with the Bible. But like, while I have their attention,
just kind of nonchalantly, you know, drop some seeds and
kind of point them.
Speaker 1: The right way.
Speaker 5: That way they will choose it themselves, or least think
that they chose it themselves, because that's about the only
way you can get anybody to accept anything that's not
already in their head already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2: And you find that a lot most of the time
when I'm pointing out errors. The errors are assumptions, you know,
and of course you know what they say about when you.
Speaker 5: Assume, yeah, one pc. Well, I just want to dive
into you a little bit about the whole Star Wars
thing because that honestly surprises me because the people that
are Star Wars fans that are not Christians and attack
you for bringing that into the conversation. Maybe it's kind
of asinine to me because it's like all the narratives
and meta narratives are all based off Joseph Campbell and
the Hero of a Thousand Faces, and that's just the
story of Jesus told through various cultural lenses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, and that's because Star Wars has
kind of been claimed by the fans.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Once, once George Lucas was done making movies, the fans
claimed it, and so now they just do whatever they
want with it. And so especially when you get into
you know, social media, then the fans kind of own it,
whether they like it or not. And you know, that's
kind of the problem Disney's had with making more Star
Wars videos, is the fans own it. If you don't
give them what they want, they're not going to be
there to watch it. And so the problem is is
that the people who are opponents of Conservatism or Christianity
are very very vocal and very very blunt and brash.
They don't hold themselves back. They have no self control
for the most part. Now there are some respectful ones,
but it's very rare. And so because they don't mind
being bolden in your face and rude and hateful, and
they like being loud, then they're going to get all
the attention. So while there are some conservatives and some
lovely people who do make Star Wars content, the problem
is that all most of the people that make it
or enjoy it not so much, or at least the
ones that are good stay quiet because they don't want
to cause a problem.
Speaker 5: Yep, that's something I encountered. I used to be really
big into politics, and it was probably around the let's
see Trump's second run and all that stuff and all
that controversy that happened. I ain't going to try to
pretend that I was bitter, and I was like, I
know how this story ends. I don't need a play
by play. So I actually just turned off the TV
and I did not watch the news, I mean, for
the entire four years of the of the Biden administration.
But I had noticed, man, people like you had said that,
you know, I hate to paint with broad brushes because
there's always exceptions, you know, to every rule, but the
majority rule is there for a reason. You know, stereotypes,
they're there for a reason. Uh. But those people, man,
if you ever getting engaged with them, you know, whether
it's in the comment section or you know, out in
the real world, they have no talking points. I mean,
there's some that do, but they're they're weak. And then
when you try to conversate with them, man, it's like
I don't know, they just they have no self control.
They get triggered and they just start yelling, screaming and
calling you names. And that's where the you know, homophobic
and bigot and not all these other terms fly out
the heath when they run out of talking points.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the problem when you build a society based
on pleasure, because anytime that pleasure is interrupted, then whoever
stopped it needs to be challenged or or you know,
taken out basically. And so the problem is is that
their pleasure comes from their ideology, and so if you're
challenging their ideology, then they're going to challenge you. And
aside from that, we also have a culture that says
violence is the issue, or not the issue, the solution,
you know, even though their side will talk about you know,
not bullying and things like that and your anti war,
but yet that's the first thing they go to when
they don't have something to say. And it's because you know,
movies and TV shows almost always violence is the solution.
I mean, even you know, I like superhero movies as
much as anybody, but you know, the whole solution to
Thanos was kill him, you know, And so that's kind
of the problem is our society said, the most important
thing is pleasure and the solution is violence.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, I would agree. And Deans, I'm not sure
where you reign from, and you're part of the country
like be if you haven't noticed, I hide it pretty well,
you know, with my accent. But I'm a Southerish Man,
and they call it the Bible belt. And my old
man used to always talk about the two bees of
a of a good how did he word it. I
can't remember that the two bees of a good attitude
or a good child or something like that, but he
would call his belt the attention getter or the attitude adjuster,
and so yeah, it was the belt in the Bible.
And for the most part, once again broadly speaking, both
of those things have been taken away. And I cannot
tell you how many times I've come across videos of
children cussing their parents, breaking PlayStations and their television visions.
And uh one I seen just recently because I guess
it was Christmas time, but it was showing a bunch
of different uh smortgage board videos put together like a
what do you call that? You know what I'm talking about?
Either way, a bunch of kids, Yes, liantage, thank you.
And they were opening all their presents and every single
one of them was a kid that was spoiled rotten
and opened their present and it wasn't what they asked for,
and they cussed their parents and through the gifts some
of them, you know, were PlayStations and expensive gifts off
the wall and breaking them. And I ain't gonna lie
I had I want to call it a riteous, ainger,
I don't know, but that Goship made me mad. I
was like, you know what, I'd have cherke that kid
up and busted his ass. That's what these kids need.
And I think that's why our society is a big
reason why it's like it is is because you know what,
there's no surprise is that the Bible tells us, you know,
in the end, they'd be lovers of self and disrespectful
to their parents and everything else. But still watching it,
man is pretty rough on a good conservative Christian person.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and even if you don't believe in you know,
spainting or anything like that, there still needs to be
some kind of repercussion. And that's the bigger issue. There's
no repercussions other than eventually they get what they want.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, yep, because they see that once they throw
a temper tantrum or they didn't get their way or
how you had said, they don't get their pleasure, they
can act up and throw a fit and then they
get what they want. And then it translates to when
they're adults, you know, when they don't get what they want,
they just get loud and scream and they expect their
way to be given to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, with all your stuff that you've done over the past,
how long have you been doing this now?
Speaker 2: Well, just for the Bible stuff, about two years.
Speaker 5: Okay, so over your your two years of doing this,
what is the most common question that you get and
what is the most common nomenclature or thing that people
try to throw up to debunk the faith.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So, the most common question I get is usually
about the unforgivable sin. Everybody wants to know about that
because there's so many bad teachings on it, and you know,
the simple answer is, if you're concerned about it, you
haven't done it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: That's that's usually what I start with, just to put
them at ease before I explain it. But as far
as the most common like objection that gets thrown at
me is typically some kind of morality issue with God.
Like they'll say, well, here's where God lied or here's
where God did this or that. And the sad thing
is that even if what they said was true, which
never is, but even if it was, that doesn't disprove
his existence. And if he still exists, he's still the
most powerful being in the universe. So even if God
told one lie, wouldn't you still want to be on
his side? And they still don't even think about that,
you know, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 5: Well, like with me, I've been doing this for about
two years also, and I can't count the emails or
direct messages that I've got from people. And this is
not me, you know, this is the Lord. The Lord
works you know, through people. But still it makes you
feel good and like you're on the right path and
doing what you need to be doing. But the messages
from people that say, man, I love your show or
I love your content and it has rejuvenated my faith
or got me excited to look into my Bible for
all these things that I just looked over and didn't
know about. And either that or I had walked away
from the faith, and by watching your show, I have
readdicated my life to Christ. Of course, I don't want
you to throw out any names or anything like that,
but I'm wondering if not if, but you know, if
you could elaborate, because I'm sure it's happened to you.
Oh sure, if you've gotten some messages like that.
Speaker 2: Oh like literally every day, every day, and it really
does help me keep my mind and where it needs
to be. If I didn't get messages like that, it
would be very easy to get prideful, you know, if
it was just popular and just people liking it, you know,
and just saying, hey, this is a great video or whatever.
Then you know, it'd be very easy to be prideful.
But when people keep telling you about what God is
doing through you know what you what you call your ministry, well,
then that keeps you on task.
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