Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
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Speaker 1: demand on the iHeartRadio app In class, like right before holiday,
Speaker 1: like a couple of days before you're going to go
Speaker 1: on holiday, vacation or whatever, you just have no focus.
Speaker 2: You get so excited excited.
Speaker 1: I was getting my fake eyelashes done yesterday, and the
Speaker 1: girls are fake.
Speaker 2: Bless your heart, they're good. I didn't even notice that.
Speaker 3: Really, yes, oh yeah, I gotta come in there.
Speaker 1: But anyway, she's like scheduling the next appointment. She says, oh,
Speaker 1: you want to come in before New Year's and I
Speaker 1: said no. She's like, you don't have any events. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, I don't. I have no events. I'm
Speaker 1: a of the no events age. I have no events
Speaker 1: for New Year's.
Speaker 2: You would have.
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: She meant like, you're not going to a party.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, Like, don't you want your fake eyelashes done
Speaker 1: freshly for the party? I got that and I was like, nope,
Speaker 1: I will be at home in my underwear and my slippers.
Speaker 1: That's okay, the picture pajamas right, better fully clothed.
Speaker 4: Yep, it's gonna let you let that sink in for
Speaker 4: a moment, and then you can't figure out what you keep.
Speaker 2: Calling nine to one one with people in the backyard.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. Sometimes I forget that I am
Speaker 2: a not a dude. Not a dude. Hey, we got mail.
Speaker 2: Should we open it?
Speaker 4: Uh, let's do it later this hour? Oh yeah, I know. Oh,
Speaker 4: so you're just going to open it.
Speaker 1: Then someone sent us a Christmas card. Tricia did. Oh
Speaker 1: that's lovely, Dear Gary and Channon. Always a good time
Speaker 1: each day from nine to one, but even a better
Speaker 1: time at a gas remote love Tricia, cheers to a
Speaker 1: good new year.
Speaker 2: So you in twenty twenty five. We don't get enough
Speaker 2: Christmas cards from me any This is the only one.
Speaker 2: It's the forever gotten. I mean we still have a
Speaker 2: couple of days if people want to send them in.
Speaker 1: I love Christmas cards. Here she is on the Golden
Speaker 1: gate Bridge.
Speaker 4: You've been done. We have done Christmas cards in a while.
Speaker 4: And I apologize.
Speaker 1: I did them, and I'm sorry I didn't get you
Speaker 1: one because I ran out.
Speaker 4: Oh and I'm glad to know that I'm not in
Speaker 4: the first tier. You're not because I see you every day.
Speaker 4: You know what I look like you understand. Yes, you know,
Speaker 4: my eyelashes are fakes. It's not like you're going to go, oh,
Speaker 4: look at this fun picture. We were in Utah. I
Speaker 4: know you were in Utah. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2: That was the picture? How did you know that?
Speaker 4: Because that's exactly the reason why you didn't exactly.
Speaker 2: We have a lot of information. Listen to. Matt Gates
Speaker 2: story has come out.
Speaker 4: They did a secret vote to release the Matt Gates
Speaker 4: ethics report, despite the fact that he's not in it.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be funny. Yeah, he came out with a tweet.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about that coming up. I know you're you
Speaker 4: are hiking. Your husband loves to hike, and Mount Baldy
Speaker 4: is off limits and people are losing their ever.
Speaker 2: Hyping because of the ice and the cold and the sun.
Speaker 4: We'll tell you coming up next hour. Justin Warsham is
Speaker 4: going to join us. We're going to do what you're watching. Wednesday.
Speaker 4: All of this is coming up. We start where we
Speaker 4: unfortunately have had a big week, and that is in Madison, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: So I have a question about this.
Speaker 1: I was reading this morning about how both the parents divorce.
Speaker 1: Parents have been married repeatedly remarried multiple times.
Speaker 4: Right, how does that happen? It's not a clean This
Speaker 4: is not a clean home life. We'll tell you that.
Speaker 4: This fifteen year old shooter.
Speaker 1: It's so sad because they said that with the custody arrangement,
Speaker 1: that she was going back and forth two or three
Speaker 1: days a piece with each home.
Speaker 4: Because there's a thing that happens. My understanding and having
Speaker 4: seen it relatively close, there's an incredible amount of selfishness
Speaker 4: narcissism that comes into play when you're talking about custody
Speaker 4: of children.
Speaker 2: That you're the better parent, and.
Speaker 4: You fight for that despite the fact you're not thinking
Speaker 4: about what's better for the child. You're very rarely thinking
Speaker 4: about what's the way that I can make sure that,
Speaker 4: despite my disagreements with her or him, my child or
Speaker 4: my children are the ones that are going to be
Speaker 4: able to live through this.
Speaker 2: Isn't that the best version of it?
Speaker 1: Though I'm the better parent, I should have the kids
Speaker 1: as opposed to someone who doesn't want the kids.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would rather yes, But you have to be
Speaker 4: able to learn to at some point give up that
Speaker 4: fight in the context of doing something better for the child.
Speaker 4: Melissa is the mom. She had been previously married and divorced.
Speaker 4: She had another daughter with a different guy to whom
Speaker 4: she was never married. So this half sister of the
Speaker 4: shooter is now twenty years old. Melissa and Jeff mother
Speaker 4: and father, divorced for the first time in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 4: and at that point they agreed to legal custody of
Speaker 4: their shared daughter. But they did, but they did specify
Speaker 4: that she was going to live mostly with mom. That
Speaker 4: I mean, in general, you can make an assumption that
Speaker 4: it's better for a girl to grow up with mom
Speaker 4: at times, not always, but at times.
Speaker 1: There was a twenty twenty two document with regard to
Speaker 1: custody that reflected that they were on cordial terms. It's
Speaker 1: that the parents report a generally positive co parenting relationship
Speaker 1: and will continue to communicate with one another by text
Speaker 1: messages and phone conversations.
Speaker 4: Yeah, come, by the way, that's after they had remarried.
Speaker 4: They divorced in twenty seventeen. They got married again in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty and agreed to share custody again, and then
Speaker 4: filed for divorce again in twenty twenty one. There's a
Speaker 4: point where other family members if this guy's my brother,
Speaker 4: if she's my sister, say I go, hey, keep the relationship,
Speaker 4: but maybe not.
Speaker 1: Let's see people wake marriage because people do not take
Speaker 1: advice to You cannot give advice about people's relationships because
Speaker 1: it'll bite your right in the behind.
Speaker 4: And that'll alone that the you know, the on again,
Speaker 4: off again marriage is not enough to no make decisions
Speaker 4: about what kind of stuff this girl was going through.
Speaker 2: But she was clearly going through something.
Speaker 1: But isn't it interesting to dig into the intricacies of
Speaker 1: other people's lives.
Speaker 4: It frustrates me, I know because part of it is
Speaker 4: because there's there's times I hate the fact that we
Speaker 4: have to know this. And the reason we know it
Speaker 4: is because their daughter committed this atrocious act of violence
Speaker 4: and suicide. Don't forget they lost a fifteen year old
Speaker 4: daughter and all of that.
Speaker 1: But it reminds you what people are going through. It
Speaker 1: makes you feel grateful, doesn't it.
Speaker 4: I I like my boring life.
Speaker 2: It's not boring.
Speaker 4: It is a boring, boring life.
Speaker 2: It is not boring, well I mean not, I mean
Speaker 2: compared to this. Yesterday when you got home, talked to
Speaker 2: my wife.
Speaker 4: We sat in the backyard for a few minutes, played
Speaker 4: with the dog, I did some workout, did a workout,
Speaker 4: helped my wife with cookies. This is a very full life.
Speaker 4: Is that what you call that? My son came over.
Speaker 4: We hung out for a little bit.
Speaker 1: Look at this, Look at all the things you have
Speaker 1: going on. That's not boring.
Speaker 4: And then we watched TV.
Speaker 2: I watched a movie yesterday. Carry on, Yeah, the Netflix one.
Speaker 2: Did you see it?
Speaker 1: You shot on Friday? Isn't it great? It was really fun.
Speaker 1: I loved it. You have to suspend this belief.
Speaker 4: And if you've been to LAX, you know, wait a minute,
Speaker 4: that that's not how it works at LAX.
Speaker 1: Jason Bateman, though, what a fun person to hang out with,
Speaker 1: Like I loved him as a bad guy, Like he's
Speaker 1: somebody you would be friends with.
Speaker 4: He would never be friends with me.
Speaker 1: I mean you, as in all of us. He's like
Speaker 1: the guy you'd be. He seems like a relatively no
Speaker 1: right like Paul Reser. Also, he would never hang out
Speaker 1: with us.
Speaker 2: But selling us short. We are fun, We are not boring.
Speaker 2: Latest on the drones when we come back.
Speaker 1: The conspiracy theories? My god, people, can't you fight over custody?
Speaker 1: Do something else better with your time?
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 4: I don't know why this hit me. This is such
Speaker 4: a perfect little meme that I found today. It's a
Speaker 4: little video. I'm assuming it's on TikTok something like that.
Speaker 4: It said, what happened to kids with casts? Oh?
Speaker 2: Broken broken rigs don't play anymore. They don't play anymore.
Speaker 2: They don't play. There are just no casts anymore.
Speaker 4: It's a whole video of kids doing like relatively crazy
Speaker 4: things like today.
Speaker 2: We would think, oh, but careful, don't don't do the thing.
Speaker 4: But somebody said, when's the last time, or no, when
Speaker 4: the last time you saw a kid with a cast?
Speaker 1: Well, I will say this, and I'm not an orthopedic surgeon,
Speaker 1: but I do believe that the casting has evolved to
Speaker 1: where you don't need to do the cast that we had.
Speaker 1: You can put like a brace or tape or they're
Speaker 1: they're not as cumbersome as they were when we were kids.
Speaker 2: I don't think I could be wrong about that. Let
Speaker 2: me know if I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: This video goes on to say nowadays all injuries are psychological.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's depressing.
Speaker 4: You can't you can't have somebody sign your your chronic anxiety.
Speaker 2: Wow, there is a weird flex.
Speaker 1: I remember breaking my wrist because I was playing basketball
Speaker 1: with the boys and and and I went up for
Speaker 1: a jumper and just completely stuffed that that shot and
Speaker 1: my wrist bent back.
Speaker 2: Somebody blocked it. You made Yeah, Oh, I broke the
Speaker 2: growth plate on my wrist.
Speaker 4: Oh is that what happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why you're as tall as you are.
Speaker 4: Stop doing that.
Speaker 2: Did that freak out a little bit? No, But it's
Speaker 2: this weird attention thing that comes from having what happened.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what is this attention that feels good?
Speaker 4: That's crazy?
Speaker 1: But yeah, you don't get that with your chronic anxiety
Speaker 1: because everybody has.
Speaker 4: It and it's all down here. At least the cast
Speaker 4: was a visible thing, right or the eyepatch, you know,
Speaker 4: I had an eye patch.
Speaker 1: You do not plant this seed because now there's going
Speaker 1: to be some sort of a weird patch you wear
Speaker 1: if you have anxiety.
Speaker 4: Oh no, well, taking your your peaka poo to your
Speaker 4: flight to Vegas is probably poo whatever dumb dog you have.
Speaker 4: So somebody that I know has a peekapoo has ordered
Speaker 4: therapy dog to be determined. We don't know if that's
Speaker 4: true or not. We don't know if that's true. It's
Speaker 4: a rumor. Okay, well i'll tell you.
Speaker 2: On Wednesday.
Speaker 4: Thousand, recorded five thousand reported drone siding in recent weeks.
Speaker 4: Obviously everybody's freaked out if you get into New York
Speaker 4: and New Jersey, and like we've seen other plays around
Speaker 4: the country, there have been these drone siding.
Speaker 2: I've decided to get a lot of entertainment from this story.
Speaker 1: In terms of sussing out all of the conspiracy theories,
Speaker 1: there's one guy, a US China relations expert, who says
Speaker 1: that Americans should plan for the worst.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they've found more radiation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that there's been unexpected radiation spikes in the area.
Speaker 1: And then there's the other conspiracy theory from Charlie Kirk
Speaker 1: that this is all about Project Blue Beam.
Speaker 2: Project blue Beam.
Speaker 1: Was first introduced in the nineties, claims global elites will
Speaker 1: destabilize the society by staging and unleashing massive supernatural events.
Speaker 2: Hey, if the global elites, if the.
Speaker 1: Democrats couldn't get it together to run someone better than
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, they're certainly not going to get it together
Speaker 1: to destabilize.
Speaker 2: The community and the country with drones.
Speaker 4: Right, that takes a lot of brain power and a
Speaker 4: lot of coordination.
Speaker 2: That's not things that they are stocked up on.
Speaker 4: One of the concern now is when you look at
Speaker 4: it in a general sense, the concern is that whoever
Speaker 4: is in control of these, if it's someone who has
Speaker 4: nefarious plans for the United States, they've identified a problem,
Speaker 4: which is obviously drones can't fly over American military installations
Speaker 4: or very sensitive sites will shoot them down or take
Speaker 4: them down however we do it. But outside of those areas,
Speaker 4: you know, the city of Burbank, for example, you could
Speaker 4: fly a drone around here, and we don't have the
Speaker 4: laws or the capability to take that thing out of
Speaker 4: the sky in the event that it's not identified correctly
Speaker 4: or it poses a threat to somebody, et cetera. And
Speaker 4: that that is kind of the weak spot when it
Speaker 4: comes to our drone policies. So the Pentagon has things right.
Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen drone attacks on foreign military bit
Speaker 4: I mean sorry, our military bases in foreign countries, and
Speaker 4: we've seen our defenses against them, whether it's a machine
Speaker 4: gun that shoots a bazillion bullets a second, just kind
Speaker 4: of filling the air with lead to take these things down,
Speaker 4: or electronic ways to jam their signals, or whatever it
Speaker 4: is that we do to do it. I don't know
Speaker 4: what it is, but I'm thankful that we have it.
Speaker 4: Can we now employ those things here on a larger scale?
Speaker 1: Trump has talked about shooting them down, And I ask
Speaker 1: you this, if he was president right now, would he
Speaker 1: order the New Jersey police to shoot these things down?
Speaker 2: Or he couldn't order them, he would order that whatever,
Speaker 2: you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean, absolutely, And what's the worst case scenario in
Speaker 1: that event? Well, if they are shot out of the
Speaker 1: sky and they fall on people and kill people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if they are as big as SUVs like some
Speaker 4: people have described them, they could do a lot of damage.
Speaker 2: But and then the liability that comes along with that.
Speaker 4: But this is the thing, and again I don't know
Speaker 4: why we're now almost four weeks into this story about
Speaker 4: it's a weird drone sighting over the state of New
Speaker 4: Jersey and relatively sensitive sights that no one has peeled
Speaker 4: off a shot. Are they hard to hit?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Are they far enough away?
Speaker 4: Do they move erratically that you don't have somebody with
Speaker 4: a good long range shooting record that could take one
Speaker 4: of these things. Now, I don't know, but that people
Speaker 4: haven't heard, like neighbor Bob got fed up with their
Speaker 4: knees out there empty in his clip into the night
Speaker 4: sky trying to hit this thing.
Speaker 2: I'm amazing. And how real is the story?
Speaker 1: Does it just have all of the oxygen in the
Speaker 1: room right now because people are talking about it? Is
Speaker 1: it really a thing that there's so many drones flying
Speaker 1: around New Jersey?
Speaker 4: Everybody from that area has stories. Yeah, I mean so,
Speaker 4: I don't know if but that's again, I don't know
Speaker 4: if it's a real thing or if this is now
Speaker 4: we've reached that point where there's enough hysteria that it
Speaker 4: is kind of perpetuating this thing without a whole lot
Speaker 4: of facts.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of leaning towards that being the case.
Speaker 1: All right, coming up next, the Matt Gates Report is
Speaker 1: actually going to come out.
Speaker 2: Holy hell, why the reversal? Or here's the thing they
Speaker 2: voted a while ago. This wasn't a this morning thing.
Speaker 4: They voted a while ago to release this report and
Speaker 4: we're just finding out about it now.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Guy in Virginia went out hunting and one of the
Speaker 1: other hunters shot a bear that had been chased up
Speaker 1: a tree. Bear falls out of the tree, falls onto
Speaker 1: a guy named Lester fifty eight years old did killed
Speaker 1: by the way to the bear.
Speaker 4: So the funny version of that is that I not
Speaker 4: that that's not funny, because it kind of is. But
Speaker 4: I read the headline and I thought it said Viagra hunter,
Speaker 4: not Virginia hunter.
Speaker 2: What do you think that says about you?
Speaker 4: And I'm inundated with those stupid commercials all the time.
Speaker 2: It's an agent stage thing.
Speaker 4: I'm fine, hey, it's your business off limits.
Speaker 3: There. The Dow Jones Industrial Libe, we are not ever advertising.
Speaker 3: We have we have two rules. Yep, no boner pills,
Speaker 3: right and what was the other one?
Speaker 2: It like veros veins.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh. The Dow Jones Industrial average is in positive territory today.
Speaker 2: It's up about two hundred points.
Speaker 4: But man, they're just simply trying to avoid the ten
Speaker 4: day mark of ten days of losses.
Speaker 2: Now, this has been the worst.
Speaker 4: We mentioned yesterday nine days of negative on the Dow
Speaker 4: Jones Industrial average was the first time since the seventies
Speaker 4: that that had happened. That being said, we are less
Speaker 4: than four percent off of the all time high still.
Speaker 4: So the thing is things are just fine still. Red
Speaker 4: flag warning up your fire out in your group of alley.
Speaker 4: The Soto Fire said about thirty acres twenty percent containment.
Speaker 4: They got a hand on that pretty quickly before things
Speaker 4: got out of hand.
Speaker 1: The House Ethics Committee secretly voted earlier this month to
Speaker 1: actually release that report into Matt Gates. The report will
Speaker 1: be made public or is expected to be made public
Speaker 1: after the House's final day of votes this year, which
Speaker 1: I think is tomorrow. Is tomorrow, well, that's what I read.
Speaker 1: At least, are they hoping that they can just release
Speaker 1: it and then it dies in the holidays, because it's
Speaker 1: not going to die.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's what they.
Speaker 3: Redacted, Is it truncated, is it the full report?
Speaker 2: What do we know? Question?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: If, I don't know.
Speaker 4: If Congress, well, I guess they could do redactions, but
Speaker 4: I don't know who would be responsible for that. The
Speaker 4: Ethics Committee report looked into several allegations against Matt Gates,
Speaker 4: including whether or not he engaged in sexual misconduct, used
Speaker 4: illicit drugs, shared inappropriate images or videos on the house floor,
Speaker 4: misused state ID records, converted campaign funds to personal use,
Speaker 4: and or accepted a bribe in proper gratuity or impermissible gifts.
Speaker 4: That was the announcement last summer when they were looking
Speaker 4: into all of this. Now, he didn't immediately respond to
Speaker 4: her request for comment by CNN, but of course he
Speaker 4: went to social media, and he said.
Speaker 1: He engaged in embarrassing but not criminal past behavior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, embarrassing sounds juicy, he says.
Speaker 4: In my single days, I often sent funds to women
Speaker 4: I dated, even some I never dated.
Speaker 1: But who asked we know somebody like that? Oh do
Speaker 1: you remember that? Yeah, so I didn't know that was
Speaker 1: a thing.
Speaker 2: I didn't either.
Speaker 1: And it is a thing where you use the cash
Speaker 1: app or what have you to send money to women
Speaker 1: that you hope to.
Speaker 2: Have sex with or are.
Speaker 1: Having right what what is like I wouldn't accept to
Speaker 1: drink from a guy when I was single, Like, ah,
Speaker 1: that's all just so gross, mad.
Speaker 2: How prevalent is that is?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 2: Is that? Does that continue to be a thing you're
Speaker 2: looking at that? Do you expect something from the woman
Speaker 2: that you expect one hundred.
Speaker 4: Despite what he may say, that's exactly why he would do.
Speaker 1: Is this because guys aren't taking women to dinner anymore?
Speaker 1: So you just send them money and they they buy
Speaker 1: their their door dash and then you just have FaceTime sex.
Speaker 2: Like what are we doing?
Speaker 4: He says, I dated several of these women for years.
Speaker 4: I never had sexual contact with someone under eighteen. Any
Speaker 4: claim that I have would be destroyed in court, which
Speaker 4: is why no such claim was ever made in court.
Speaker 2: My thirties this is.
Speaker 4: Where I just this is what blows me away. My
Speaker 4: thirties were an era of working very hard and playing
Speaker 4: hard too. It's embarrassing, though not criminal, that I probably partied, womanized, dranked,
Speaker 4: drank and smoked more than I should have earlier in life.
Speaker 4: I live a different life now, but at least I
Speaker 4: didn't vote for crs that f over the country reference
Speaker 4: to the continuing resolution that the House just passed so
Speaker 4: that they don't have a government shutdown this weekend.
Speaker 1: He said, f the country. Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 4: Because some of the people listen again, the algorithms are crazy.
Speaker 4: But some of the people who respond to this on
Speaker 4: social media say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is why we love Matt Gates.
Speaker 4: Matt Gates, just so you know, is a completely politically
Speaker 4: impotent figure right now. He's not doing anything. He resigned
Speaker 4: from Congress even though he knew his nomination for Attorney
Speaker 4: General was going to be an uphill climb. He did
Speaker 4: not have a backup plan, and he is now waiting
Speaker 4: for whatever Trump has planned for him. And this is
Speaker 4: a weird place for him to be. Him shouting into
Speaker 4: the ether like this, Well, I never did this, and
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm guilty of being a good time guy.
Speaker 2: I'm guilty of partying too hard. Live hard, play, hard, work,
Speaker 2: hard play hard. James Comer, Congressman, what says date rape
Speaker 2: like work, hard play hard.
Speaker 4: James James Comer, the congressman is the head of the
Speaker 4: I think he's the head of the House Intelligence Committee.
Speaker 4: Was asked about this and said, Matt Gates teamed up
Speaker 4: with Democrats to oust Kevin McCarthy back in the day.
Speaker 2: How did that sit with Republicans?
Speaker 7: There were a lot of people Republicans that didn't approve
Speaker 7: of the way that Gates worked with the two hundred
Speaker 7: and eleven Democrats to have the motion to Ak succeed
Speaker 7: and get rid of McCarthy, and that led to three
Speaker 7: and a half weeks of pretty tough living conditions here
Speaker 7: in the Capitol trying to find a replacement. So I'm
Speaker 7: not surprised. I think it's unfortunate. But at the end
Speaker 7: of the day, I think that the American people probably
Speaker 7: want to see this ethics report.
Speaker 2: Here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: And you know, Marjorie whatever her name is, said it
Speaker 1: best about all right, you want to unearth what Matt
Speaker 1: Gates did, let's all dance in the sunlight or whatever
Speaker 1: the hell she said. Do you know how many people
Speaker 1: in Congress are guilty of the same stuff Matt Gates is,
Speaker 1: but maybe a different version. Maybe not the cash app version,
Speaker 1: but like the you know whatever came before. Listen, drugs,
Speaker 1: the party of the womanizing, part of the lifestyle.
Speaker 2: Up next.
Speaker 1: I mean Mitch McConnell alone. Look at that guy, you
Speaker 1: know he's getting after it.
Speaker 2: I'd be more interested in Lindsey Graham's back. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: that's hot.
Speaker 4: Life in South Carolina gets steamy at time. Get swampy
Speaker 4: down in them. Oh no, I'm in in location wise,
Speaker 4: it gets swampy.
Speaker 2: Not that all right?
Speaker 1: Coming up next, legal experts say, it is going to
Speaker 1: be hard to convict Luigi Mangioni a first degree murder.
Speaker 2: Can you believe that? Yes you can.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I don't remember how
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 4: You put your arm out like this and this, this
Speaker 4: and then this. That's all I remember, okay, and then
Speaker 4: there's a cross shaky. Can't do that, can't do that,
Speaker 4: can't do that really, and then you jump and turn
Speaker 4: a quarter like ninety degrees.
Speaker 3: Forty five degrees ninety ninety right, forty five would be silly,
Speaker 3: that would just be like.
Speaker 4: There'd be a lot of turns. Yeah, NASA's two struck
Speaker 4: stuck astronauts are going to be stuck even longer. Which
Speaker 4: Williams and Sunny Williams planned on being away just a
Speaker 4: week when they blasted off June fifth. Now they're talking
Speaker 4: about eight months instead of eight days. They will not
Speaker 4: be back until the end of March or maybe even
Speaker 4: April because of a delay in launching their replacements. According
Speaker 4: to NASA.
Speaker 1: Luigi Mangioni was accused of first degree murder in the
Speaker 1: fatal shooting of that United Healthcare CEO in New York.
Speaker 1: Premeditation is not enough to get you to a first
Speaker 1: degree murder charge. You have to have an aggregate aggravating factor.
Speaker 1: So they have charged him with the furtherance of terrorism.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the weird Under New York law, murder in the
Speaker 4: first degree only applies to when the victim is a judge,
Speaker 4: a police officer, first responder, or when the killing involves
Speaker 4: a murder for hire or an intent to commit terrorism.
Speaker 1: Or torture, which I would have gone with because when
Speaker 1: you get into the penal code here, torture says the
Speaker 1: defendant acted in an especially cruel and wanton manner pursuant
Speaker 1: to a course of conduct intended to inflict and inflicting
Speaker 1: torture upon the victim prior to the victim's death. I
Speaker 1: could see that argument of he shot him a couple times,
Speaker 1: the gun shot, the initial shots were not fatal, he
Speaker 1: came over and finished him off. That could be torture
Speaker 1: killing somebody by multiple gunshot wounds.
Speaker 3: I could get there as a juror. As opposed to
Speaker 3: terrorist terrorism.
Speaker 4: Well, one of the things that they've discussed is this
Speaker 4: is similar to what the DA did when it came
Speaker 4: to Daniel Penny's case. Alvin Bragg, in the Daniel Penny case,
Speaker 4: was charged with both second degree manslaughter and criminally negligent
Speaker 4: homicide in the death of Jordan Neely. We talked about
Speaker 4: that case earlier and one of the reasons they said
Speaker 4: that they double charged, well, that's not even the right term.
Speaker 4: The reason that they charged one count at a lesser
Speaker 4: count is it may be this strategy where you set
Speaker 4: up the conditions for a plea to the lesser charge,
Speaker 4: where he's got the ability to, you know, eventually get
Speaker 4: some get out of prison at some point, and if
Speaker 4: there isn't a plea, it then sets up the condition
Speaker 4: as well for the jury compromise on the lesser charge.
Speaker 4: That's what Alvin Bragg thought he was going to do
Speaker 4: with Daniel Penny. If he wasn't able to get second
Speaker 4: degree manslaughter which they were deadlocked on, that he would
Speaker 4: get criminally negligent homicide which they did not. Was thrown
Speaker 4: out eventually. Is that was the case it was thrown
Speaker 4: out or how that specifically ended. But yeah, at the
Speaker 4: same time, this is such a high profile case, why
Speaker 4: don't you just get the charge that you know you're
Speaker 4: going to get why wouldn't you charge him with second
Speaker 4: degree murder if that's what fits this crime specifically.
Speaker 1: It's just wild because it is definitely a premeditated murder,
Speaker 1: which is above the threshold for second degree murder, but
Speaker 1: definitely not terrorism. And then you, you know, you can
Speaker 1: be seen as throwing the book at him. And what
Speaker 1: does that do for the public backlash?
Speaker 4: That is the that's the weirdest aspect I think of
Speaker 4: this case, is that public backlash, the public support that
Speaker 4: has come out for this guy and specifically for his
Speaker 4: act of murder.
Speaker 1: Would you say forty one percent of respondence to that
Speaker 1: survey yesterday said that they get it.
Speaker 2: People under the age of twenty nine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they either understand or it was something like
Speaker 4: supported or fully supported something crazy like that for percent.
Speaker 1: That crazy woman that we've talked about before. I heard
Speaker 1: John talking about it yesterday. What's her name? She's just
Speaker 1: incendiary online with her ridiculous Oh, Taylor Lawrence. Yes, And
Speaker 1: she was like I felt something to the effect of,
Speaker 1: like my heart felt warm when I when I heard
Speaker 1: about this killing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's an awful person.
Speaker 2: Why people keep.
Speaker 1: Running You're giving her a garbage human, garbage human.
Speaker 2: Yes, possibly say you have a boring life.
Speaker 6: You get to see and work closely with Shannon every
Speaker 6: day on every day, but five days a week.
Speaker 2: That is so exciting. Can you tell that that I
Speaker 2: was changing my voice a little bit? Yeah, just a
Speaker 2: little higher regis sounds good? Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Hey, you know my son just snapped his wrists,
Speaker 8: cracked it or broke it. He's in the cast. He's
Speaker 8: bombed now, he can't play a baseball.
Speaker 4: Broke it.
Speaker 8: He was on a bike. Fell and you know, kids
Speaker 8: natural instinct stick stick their handout. But yeah, he's in
Speaker 8: a cast. He was in a cast. They take it
Speaker 8: up at the end of this month, so he'll be
Speaker 8: in it for about a month and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 8: lucky him.
Speaker 2: You know what good job being a parent? You know that?
Speaker 2: To me? Your kids in a cast, that's a good job.
Speaker 4: Play outside, unless it was an e bike then no,
Speaker 4: I say, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: This is Rick.
Speaker 6: Hey, Rick, I learned that Shannon needs more conspiracy. This
Speaker 6: little deal with thenes, this total misdirection. All you got
Speaker 6: to do is figure out what we're not supposed to
Speaker 6: be looking at.
Speaker 1: Ah, I like that, what are we being distracted from
Speaker 1: with the drones?
Speaker 2: What's going on on the ground in New Jersey as
Speaker 2: opposed to the sky?
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, no not I don't know, not a lot
Speaker 4: of much of anything.
Speaker 2: See, this is why you're boring. You've got a de boring.
Speaker 2: I know your life is boring. It's not. Nothing's boring.
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Speaker 2: Remember when you were on the iheard fix your fireplace?
Speaker 2: That was exciting times.
Speaker 4: That was pretty exciting, right I guess hell yeah, uh
Speaker 4: you got to see it.
Speaker 2: I'm really happy with it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not living the life of a days
Speaker 1: in in Glendale.
Speaker 4: Hey, there's plenty of time left in this year.
Speaker 2: Or was it a Super eight?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: That was the days Then.
Speaker 4: When we return, you like to hike Mount Baldy, You're
Speaker 4: gonna have to put pause, hit hit pause, put pause,
Speaker 4: hit pause on that.
Speaker 2: For a whole year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be a while.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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