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Speaker 2: The infant t Rex Krcle Patzer.
Speaker 3: I am the pack of mini dinos in a trench
coat Jessica.
Speaker 4: That's a funky nickname. I like it.
Speaker 3: You think of like three kids in a trench coat, right,
and pretending to be an adult. I'm just a bunch
of mini dinods pretending. There you go. What was that
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Speaker 4: Some prehistoric sushi?
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Speaker 1: We got the Gault retaliation match coming up, Kirkland and
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It's gonna be a big banger, right Kirkland.
Speaker 2: Match, very very hopeful that we we do better than
the first time around. No I'm excited love work with
Sarahs and I love hopefully wiping that smile off your
little smug face.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm happy just to suck that hope right out
and put in my belly, because that's where it's going
to go, right by my belt, you know so. But
talking about things in bellies, dinosaurs eating people happens a
law in these movies. The Lost World, Jurassic Park, that's
what we're talking about right now, Kirkham Patzer, what do
you think of Obviously last week lots of us had
lots of high praise, lots of us talk about how
much we love the first one. Where do you fall
on the second in the Lost World?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think back in the day I had
like on VHS like the double of like Drassic Park,
and then below that was Dress Park two.
Speaker 1: I talked about this last week. He didn't back me
up at all. I don't think I think I did,
going idiot, didn't make those I was like, Okay, I
guess I'm alone on this island.
Speaker 2: But it's a default to that opinion on you. But yeah, yeah,
aays you know so, I remember these two quite well.
And then I don't think I have her owned Drassic
Park three, but it was one of those movies. Every
time I was at a friend's house, like we would
put that on. So I remember the movies in very
different ways. But Dress Park two I haven't revisited since
it was on VHS. Dress Park one I'd watched probably
just last year. So this one was like, like, Okay,
I remember the key moments, but it was still like
looking at it from through the eyes of an adult.
It was the first time for that, which which made
it interesting. The beginning it was it was really just
like wow, this is this is a sequel movie that
they were just going for, like, oh, let's just we
got Ian, Let's just make a movie with Ian. There
was like some just weird plot lines around his character
that like was not hinted at, like at all in
the first movie. It's like, Okay, this is just purely
created for this adventure, Like what's going on here with
like his he's got a girlfriend apparently, even though he's
schmoosing like the other changes last movie, he's like a kid.
Speaker 1: Okay with the kid he mentions he says he has
kids in the first one and the sec Yeah, he
does say kids plural plural.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, we ever see the other one?
Speaker 1: Well, probably won't dominion, you know, it's probably it's like
it's been like five ish years or something.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, No, fair enough. I think it was just
from the type of character that he is in the
first movie of just like Travis's name, like the rock Star,
just this cool sexy mathematician dude, just rocking, no striking
his leather coat. To this one, he's just he doesn't
have that same personality to him, at least initially. Like again,
it's good that he's coming off as a more fatherly
figure because you know, he is a father in this movie.
He has his kid on screen with them, and he's
just like dealing about the stresses of that. It just
the whole the whole idea of him just being like
just taking on this adventure. For me, it was just like, Okay,
this is just to get us going back to the
island with a familiar character instead of just having an
all new cast. But like like that was kind of
a con I had around the character stuff. But all
in all, like I really liked just what this movie was.
I think again with him, just like it was a
little bit easy for me, like the way that he
got on the adventure, but like the whole thing of
like him kind of being disgrace because people are just
like that's not fucking true, like like they just aren't
believing him. Like I actually quite like that because honestly,
they're especially back then, you know, they don't have like
smartphones just recording everything there when it doesn't matter absolutely everywhere,
even the.
Speaker 1: Smartphones recording stuff now, they still don't believe it.
Speaker 2: That's true. That is fair. Fun So that is fair.
But but I think that was an aspect of the
movie I didn't I obviously didn't realize as a kid.
It's just like the believable factor. And then everyone like
the new set of scientists that are going in, like
they're just really amped to get the possibility of like
studying these things, which is exactly like what uh doctor
Grant and Ellie Ellie Sadler, Yeah, Ellie Sadler, like their motivation,
I mean they were being funded by him and thankfully,
but like still like just to get the opportunity to
go see dinosaurs, like obviously they're gonna take that chance.
And then they're all just completely like disregarding In's advice
like this is just a death trap. So I like
that whole dynamic and the whole aspect of them on
the island with like another human team that are just
doing their own situation and like they're like the villains
sort of the like, I really like that dynamic. It's
very different from the first one, and I think I think, yeah,
it's unique enough from the first movie where it's not
just a complete carbon copy. And I really like this movie.
I think there is some moments that are just kind
of I rollly compared to the first one. Like the
first one just we all kind of gave it a
ten out of ten, I think, or the vast majority
that So no Jurassic World too. No, I don't think
she said that, but yeah, all in all, I really
like this movie. I'm excited to break down specifics, but
but yeah, no.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was a good watch. I think I was surprised.
I think I was expecting to hate it more because
it's just like, Okay, I remember liking it enough when
I was a kid, but like again, through the eyes
of an adult, still still hold up for me. The
animatronic dinos looked awesome as always, so yeah, I'll pass
along there.
Speaker 1: I'll go next because you know, I, you know, have
some fun with Kirklum, but I do. I have a
very similar point as far as with Jeff Goldblin, where
it feels very much like after Pirates one in three
you had to, you know, those other two left and
Jack Sparrow had to carry the burden as the main character.
And I think that showed with four and five, how
it just doesn't work of just like Jack Sparrow being
the pure main character. And I think that's kind of
this here where it works well enough, but you definitely
it's almost a reverse where you don't shrip things away
from the character. You have to give the character more
to do and more about him, and it kind of
makes him, like, I feel like a little less interesting
or he lose that spark because I feel like you
couldn't have that fly by the seat of his pants
kind of care free and not care free. But I
just like that attitude he had as the main character.
And you can say, Okay, he went through this shitt
Jurassic Park, maybe that changed him. That's always my head
canon that maybe he was that way. And when you're
nearly die being attacked by dinosaurs, you're a little bit different,
but I feel like if you look at the Dominion trailers,
they're really starting to play them up again as that
very kind of comedic relief, kind of wild card type
of guy. So I'll be interested to see what they do.
I think this is a really enjoyable movie. This definitely
feels more like Durstic Park the action movie more than
the first one. This is definitely you know, guns, like
when we get to that big set scene, the set
piece with the t rexes. Again, it is very trying
to be what much like the first one, but there's
this one one where the trailer falls into explosions. Oh
my god, the CGI explosions were just terrible. But she's
like they have that there's tires. So it's just like
Drastic Park on steroids. And I think for that part
where it's tough we talked about last week an IDSTI
the Drastic Park is probably a perfect movie Grace me
all the time, one of those, but it's also on
those where I don't think you need a sequel other
than you want to make money right, and I think
this movie shows it where they give enough reasons to
go back on the park, but it really just feel
like they just want to get these characters backwards or
at least Ian, and then new character is on the
island just to mess with some dinosaurs.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: John Hammond, to me, feels like he had a complete
turn in the first movie, and this when he's back
to kind of being like, oh, like things could be okay,
Like he's kind of shady again. The whole like way
to get Ian on the island with his girlfriend, how
confusing that is makes zero set Like it's just like
it's just all over the place. How the daughter just
ends up there. So I think Jurassic Park where it
was very like with a fine was that fine tooth
cone find pit comb like it was gone over and
just feel like the script was so like almost flattened
out in perfect This definitely just feel like how does
this happen? We don't care, We just want to get
to the next things like okay, And there's some fun destines.
There are some fun scenes in particular, like the way
this movie opens is fucked up. It's scary. So I
think it's still the benefit of you can still tell
Steven Spielberger's directing this movie. I don't know. We'll wait
till obviously we see them all on rank them, but
it's definitely hot. I car probably would maybe have it
at number two, So I still very much enjoy it.
I just there's certain things like when Terry's home about
in the books where it's like this person di or
this thing's happens. That's where a lot of these things
just like with uh, what if we'll talk about three
with Grant and I'll want to have kids. I feel
like there's a lot of things that the first one
ends on that this one's kind of like, yeah, but
we we really need a sequel, so we're gonna do this.
So Jess, go, what are your thoughts on the Lost World?
Speaker 3: So when I think of Jurassic Park, my first thoughts
go to three. I don't think of the first one.
Speaker 1: I'm your first thoughts go to three.
Speaker 2: Your very respect I respect that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think that was probably the first one
I watched, and that's probably why just thinking kind of
timeline is of when they came out. But when I
think of Jurassic Park, I don't think of to it all.
I had no idea what to expect going into this.
I have no idea when the last time I watched
it was I had Yeah, I would have been Taylor's
dream to watch it without knowing what again for a
first time.
Speaker 1: Just wait to see what happens next Yeah.
Speaker 4: Next week.
Speaker 3: Yet I know levin Taylor's dream over here, so I
kind of had, yeah, no expectations. I didn't remember it
at all. I didn't like, I didn't even Finns Vaughan
was in this. I had no idea. Yeah, yeah, so yeah,
there's definitely some points that I think hinder it, And
I my thought was kind of the same thing as
Travis was saying about kind of steroids. They're like, there
was not enough dinosaurs in the last one. Let's just
put dinosaurs freaking everywhere all the time. And you know,
depending on how you view it, that could be good
or bad. If you're looking for that action y dinosaur movie,
it for sure hits that. If you're looking for a
little bit more plot driven, character development, ye ARC type movie,
it doesn't quite hit that mark overall. You know, it
was a fun movie to watch in its own right,
But I don't think I'm going to be anywhere near
Travis putting this one at the second spot.
Speaker 1: Wait to watch them all again. You know, there's there's
some when was the last thing he actually watched? Three though.
Speaker 3: VHS?
Speaker 1: Yeah it holds something, alright, holds it l But no,
I like all the well I like almost all the
Drastic Park movies until the last one.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, well so just to kind of build
them that when you said to watch Drassic Park, So
I went to watch the first one, and I was
waiting for all these scenes to happen, and they didn't
happen in this one either. So obviously all the scenes
I'm thinking of are the third one. So all my
memories of Drastic.
Speaker 5: Park elaborate these scenes. I want to know. That's just
that's awesome.
Speaker 3: You want me to like talk about them now.
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm gonna laugh. And she watches it and then
she's like, none of the scenes with this movie and
some other like.
Speaker 4: Where's the indoor Raptor?
Speaker 1: And no, no, it's not even that. It's like some
other dinosaur movies she thought was Drastic Park and it wasn't. Yeah, yeah,
where's doing Where's Brendan Frasier? Brendan Fraser would have been
great in these nineties Drassic Park movies. He'd be great, now,
you know. So I'm very curious because I want to
hear tis because I feel like in this absolute lovely
I feel like Lost World does almost get talked about
the least because I know your thoughts on three as
far as the very MEMI we tell about. Ah, then
all the time I know your thoughts on the sequels,
Guys that around the podcast era. I knew your thoughts
on the first one even before the retro, but I
feel like you're second one. I feel like, Okay, imagine
it is gonna like it, but I want to know
it as a drastic Park fan, where's this fall for you?
As far as your your love or your you know
obviously rating at the end, but just how do you
feel about it?
Speaker 5: I really do love a lot about this movie, and
I I would have to say that I actually docked
at points after I read through the book. And again
it's not because it's anything like I ain't what they
did in the movie. Because the movie in its own
right is it's a good, entertaining Jurassic Park film.
Speaker 4: I like it as a sequel very much.
Speaker 5: And then seeing it stack up with the novelization and
how these comparisons worked out, I really like that as well.
But then certain things that they did in the book
made more sense, whereas it was more flawed in the movie.
And that's where I was realizing, okay, I would dock it.
And for a little bit of context here, when Ian
Malcolm is shown to be alive in this he is,
if I remember correctly, he's not like advocating and he's
denying the dinosaur thing. It's not really like all mainstream
media kind of stuff like that. There are rumors and
there are leaks about it, and so you have some
scientists that are like poking him and trying to get
more information information out of him and stuff like that,
trying to learn, and so eventually things kind of turn
around and they decide to set up this convoy to
this island, and this one scientist guy just gets so
excited he ends up just going to Costriaca, goes to
the Sona and then that's what draws in the research
team of Ian Malcolm the scientist to go there. And
it's not his daughter that sneaks in in the book,
it's two students that were working under him, basically learning
and they were kids, and so they snuck in and
they go there, and then yeah, just like chaos breaks loose,
but you have characters coming back like Dodson or Dogson
from the First Dress Park Dodson. Yeah, so he comes
back to get him. He's his company he works for.
They're much more prominent in this where they're trying to
learn the information for where they're going and really tap
into what's going on how to access these dinosaurs. So
there's a lot more stuff and it's a lot more
scarier to it at times. And again, these are things
that are represented in the movie. I think very well.
Speaker 4: They did that good build up and they had the.
Speaker 5: Right amount of dinosaur representation where I really enjoyed it.
And as a kid, I think this movie again really
hit home because being a little little Taylor, he loved dinosaurs,
he loved explosions.
Speaker 1: He loved in this movie.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so when you have not one, but two
t rexes, little Taylor's fucking head.
Speaker 1: Over heels for three t rexes.
Speaker 4: I guess technically three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so just like those three actors, Just like those three.
Speaker 4: Actors, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: When you have John Hammon coming back and yeah, he's
kind of incentivizing the crewticle out.
Speaker 1: He's being shady.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's being shady, but I understand what he's trying
to do. He's willing to put these people's lives on
the line to keep the island contained and shady.
Speaker 1: That the government has embalmed in this fucking island is
a question.
Speaker 4: Nonetheless, you know, no one knows about it, and that's
the thing they.
Speaker 1: The government should know. Fly a fucking plane over, like,
oh my god, look there's a massive t rex. Jesus,
let's nuke this thing now.
Speaker 5: Well that that's that is the weird thing. Why it
didn't get Newt right off the hop. But the thing
was too again like the act of God as he
says that a storm came in wiped out the facility,
they evacuated everyone. But I like that John Hammond was
pushing for we need to keep this island ice lay,
to keep it on its own, and yeah, it just
kind of sets the precedents for what we're experiencing here.
And there's a lot of humorous moments throughout this that
I kind of I jibed with. But focusing on Ian Malcolm,
I definitely don't mind that. I think he does a
good job at kind of carrying it. And you guys
spoke to like his traits I guess his personality and such.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 5: It was such a Hey, this shit is real and
this needs to be addressed, Like you guys are all
living in a fairy tale like there. These things are dangerous,
and throughout the start of this whole thing, he's just
calling them out, like John, you're making all new mistakes,
like stop putting your name on other people's tombstones, like
he does all that and the wooh uh, you know,
that's how it starts, and there's running and screaming like
he's just calling it out as.
Speaker 4: He sees it because he knows.
Speaker 5: And I like it because all these people are doing
exactly what we saw in the first one. They're oggling
over these things and it's so great and crazy. But
you get those interesting dynamics where you have the other
team coming in and they're just so aggressive and I
shed tears when they're just tackling down all those dinosaurs
and stuff.
Speaker 4: It's just so brutal. But yeah, I can't wait to
get into this. This is just such a it's a
good movie, it really is.
Speaker 1: There you go. So so we're talking about character everything
that I'm sure, but I want to talk about one thing.
The biggest takeaway half from this movie, like, yeah, okay,
I enjoy it. There's scenes here and this and that.
We'll get into them. But the biggest takeaway that happened
to me was, I think, what is the name of
Jeff gold Ian's girlfriend of Sarah Right, Sarah Harding, Sarah Hardy.
I think she is the single worst partner you could
ever have in this world. I'll give you the three strikes,
the three offenses. One, she's gonna go on an island
with these dinosaurs, and she says she's gonna call them later.
She's gonna she was gonna call him a few days.
Speaker 2: Like I always show up. I always show up eventually.
Speaker 1: This is a whole different situation that's personal him. That's one. Two.
When his daughter gets there and he's like, bicker his daughter,
and she's just like, h like, don't be such an like,
don't be such a stick in the mud. His daughter,
not your daughter. His daughter is on this island with
lethal killing animals, machines, dinosaurs, whatever you want to call them.
And she's just so nonchalant about it. And then what
does she do to top it all off? And maybe
we can tell the scene. Now, what does she do
top it all off? Where her whole theory? Right? She says, well,
you know, the reason I'm on this island is because
some guy says that t rexes have their babies they
just leave them. My theory and I one hundred percent
believe that they have their babies they stay with them.
So this fucking bitch thinks that these t rexes are
gonna stay with their baby. So what does she do.
She brings this t rex to Ian who wants to
get off this island, and to Ian's daughter who.
Speaker 4: Is That wasn't her I'll give you a fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5: That wasn't her initial choice because she was kind of
pissed off at Vince Bond's character, right.
Speaker 1: You Okay, then the second you get back, you know,
you know what, drive it away? No? No, no, she
was completely I'd say pretty much she put it, didn't
put it much of a fight. Oh, we shouldn't do this, Okay,
let's go. You leave the t rex there. I don't
care what the fucking broken leg and everything like that. That's
like in Jurassic World, these people trying to save these dinosaurs.
You're fucking idiots. But the fact that doesn't matter you
brought a baby t Rex to this trailer where a
young innocent kid is There's that look at the end
of the movie where Jeff Golden looks back like Sarah
hits the lock. It's a tear. He looks back at
her and he looks back, and I was like, man,
he's probably thinking, I can't wait to break up with
this fucking lady, like she's put me through something like
she is not where that she I think is the
worst girlfriend in movie history right here, because man, she
did so much to try and get him in this
her hurt him and his kid killed, and she has
like a relationship with this kid. Unbelievable.
Speaker 4: She's the best kind of girlfriend there is one who
travels a lot. That's fun the movie believable.
Speaker 5: I will defend her to the point where, no, don't
do this, to this point where does killed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just wait, you kids over fucking t rex baby,
see how you feel about it.
Speaker 5: She was kind of shocked and she was resistant at
first when Nick brought in the t Rex infant, that's
definitely for sure.
Speaker 4: And then I don't dismiss the.
Speaker 1: Fact that I drove it there though they drove it there. Yeah,
so she knew the whole car ride she did.
Speaker 4: But I think that's the other thing you have to
take into context.
Speaker 5: You're dealing with someone who is big on you know,
animal activists and green peace everything like that. So what
he's doing, he's very much instilled in that that's what
he believes.
Speaker 4: Then you have Sarah Harding.
Speaker 5: Who has a fixiation with these dinosaurs to you know,
protect them. She know, haven't called her up and said, hey,
get out here to make sure we can keep them
in their habitat and everything like that, and she has
a huge respect so and she's a doctor. So now
when you have this dynamic of this infant that's injured,
I think it's immediately going to be just human instinct.
Speaker 4: That takes over. We're like, hey, we got to do
what we can to help this animal.
Speaker 5: And I think it's just it's amplified from what who
she is as a character.
Speaker 4: Now, was it very dangerous and wrong?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, that is not dismissed whatsoever. And the only sensible
person in that moment was Kelly, because she knew she
needed to get some more hikers of their animals are
gonna hear this. So I think in the heat of
the moment one of the things life is on the line.
I think they acted dangerously, but at least they managed
to save its life.
Speaker 1: But like you said, there's other examples. Sure, not calling
him her just completely like the.
Speaker 4: Phone thing, Yeah, and I don't blame you. And when
he gets in there, he's like, I'm gonna kill you
to pick it up.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but uh yeah, what do you guys have
to You can say anything on Sarah or the new characters.
Because we meet Vince Vaughn and Vin so I was
trying to be a serious actor and then we meet
the guy who can't put a cable on a truck
to save his life, like literally to save his life.
Speaker 2: You know, that was such a weird like stretch of film.
I didn't like it's just him just like crawling through
the mud. It's like, why are you crawling here? Like
just fucking take a good leverage grip, pull out that cable.
You don't have to crawl in the muck like you're like,
I'm fucking a in the like you don't have to.
Speaker 1: Be A lot of that was a lot like so
get up because you doesn't mean you're down, And it's
not quick saying I.
Speaker 2: Thought he's gonna give up. He's like, I'm just gonna
I gotta go.
Speaker 1: They brought the t Rex. They deserve it.
Speaker 2: I guess I guess we could talk about that scene
specific because that was another like again t Rex scene
in the rain nighttime, very similar to the first one,
but this time we got multiple t Rexes, and I
think it's still I think it's still a great scene
even after like that guy just mumbling around on the
muck and just just crawling, but like really great suspense,
and like I didn't realize how it's like different like
locations even though it's like the same location, because you
have the daughter and cable boy, like up in the
the what's it called the High High, they're they're hiding
in the High High, and then you have.
Speaker 4: It Hide High. Maybe it is.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's.
Speaker 2: High high high, that's what you're saying. I think it's
high high hide High.
Speaker 1: True and true.
Speaker 2: But anyways, just how it like like it starts again
like they're just trying to save this t rex life
and then it just it just like gets further and
further more chaos. Uh, Like the both t rexes get
there and then yeah, just like the trailer falling off
the click. It's just like very suspenseful. Such a great
scene as well. Just every time I'm watching, whether it's
the scene from Jurassic Park one or this scene, I'm
always just so blown away, like like damn, like this
was like a set like I could like it would
be so cool, just like be someone on set as
that's happening, with like just the rain and like everything
going on. Like it's just very much stands out where
like I feel like a scene like that today could
have just been like all green screen, but like the
fact that it's all like practically majority practical. It looks
really good, the dinos look good, and yeah, it's just
suspenseful and like kind at the edge of your seat.
Even though I've seen the movie and kind of knows
know what happens, it's it's still phenomenal. I love that scene.
That's probably it's probably my favorite scene in the entire movie. Honestly,
it's just really really gripping.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it is so well done. I think
it's just that thing, like the way you described it,
it's just so tough and you're like, oh, it's a
t Rex scene, but it's two. This time it's such
like a ninety sequel thing of like what do we
do well? Instead of one t Rex, it's gonna be
two t Rex, like all right, And then it's like
the mud is like similar with the kids. Like I
think it's a good scene. I think it's almost a scene.
It's definitely not as good as that first one because
I think they do good stuff with like the music
kicks in here right away, but that first one had
like just the rain and the silence. So with this one,
I think if the first one didn't exist, this would
be so much better for me. But it just feels
very kind of samesy to the first one. And like
I said, this is where some of that that CGI
comes out with the trailer, and I think fall down
that road way too many fucking times.
Speaker 4: It's like like one of those movie like melted.
Speaker 1: Oh, they'd be done for even that moment when he
caught up the backpack. No fucking way, no fucking way,
that's gonna laugh. But like that's I think they literally
climb up like whoa, well, like they just do that
same thing. But the scene nonetheless is good. Like I
give the cable guy ship, but that's great tension building
all that stuff, like and you know what, he's the
MVP of that scene. He's trying other than not standing
up everything else, he's trying his best. He's gonna get
and just yet.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Guy, right when you go out to go, you gotta go.
But like he's trying to do the cable. Then like
the truck start or the trailer starts to pivot. He
gets to the truck, he's backing up and again, you
know what happened, whether it's Vince Vaughan or that girlfriend
they led to that guy's fucking life to dying. He
saved all three, all four, even if you count the
dollar's lives and what happens, he pays for it. What
a Like, that's the type of ship when they are good,
When they get back home together and Ian is just
sitting there thinking about this everything went down, He's just
gonna look at and be like, you're fucking fault that
guy died. You know they're not lasting. There's no fuck
where even though I pop huge if she's a dominion,
if it was a secret cameo and they were still
together that but I would I would judge and right away, Like,
what the fuck you do in your.
Speaker 4: Bud Like, come on away, she's in Dominion.
Speaker 1: No, she'll be in the she'll be in the seventh one,
you know. That's what.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna just ask because we kind of brought
up the fact that it's animatronics and CGI, do we
know what was what specifically did they do? Like animatronics
for the t Rex again, and then CGI for most
of the other things, the close.
Speaker 5: Up shots like when they're they're in the trailer and
the two t Rex heads are side by side again,
full animatronics. After that, when they do the uh, the
Eddie scene and he's being ripped apart. I believe again
that was a good blend because.
Speaker 1: They had there these machines. Yeah, you're gonna be safe.
Speaker 5: They did have the animatronics actually pull Eddie out. I
believe that was a real stunt. And then they switched
to the CGI when they obviously ripped him apart and
looked at them went off the car.
Speaker 1: Just a big ip at the end of the movie.
It's not really wrong. Yeah, and then all the New
York stuff is all CGI to.
Speaker 2: Sarah, Holy shit, I didn't realize fucking bad those dinos
look and they're.
Speaker 1: Like whoa, It's it's so strange, Like we talked about this,
but remember the first scene with the long necks and
drafts bark where that's the only time to me it's like, Okay,
these look a little CG but still like good, especially
for the time it's so good with the Brox storms. Yeah,
I was like, what are we doing right here? When
she's like having the duck and everything like that. It
was surprising that, like it looked lesser quality than Jurassic Park.
I was like, what happened? You guys had more years,
more time, more money. What's going on? So I think
this movie, like, I don't think it's as bad as
similar CGI movies, but I think there is a bit
more noticeability in this one as far as some the
dinosaurs where they don't blend as well.
Speaker 3: I have that in my notes that the dinosaurs look
better but it's not better, And that was one of
my specific notes.
Speaker 1: They look better but not better. Even the raptors I
feel like kind of take a step down, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean, they won't amount to the raptors in that
first one for sure, but some CGI moments I definitely
give it the edge of this Kirkling, you must have
loved it because you love the raptors of We're like
not even what like thirty five percent of the movies,
Like that's not the problem raptors.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, we GoGet. I like the usage of them,
at least in their scene. They're like ambushing them. Like
that was fun, my little mini rant. There was more
of just like the perception of raptors and just just
modern media. That was like a more deep dive. Maybe
I'll do a solo cast just shitting on the raptors.
Oh god, so's to deal with the raptors? Get like hammer,
It's just like keep drinking, like going in five hours,
super political? Yeah yeah, your.
Speaker 1: Own vodka stream? Should you though? Just eight hours if
you're talking about fucking raptors.
Speaker 2: So for an hour to wake up? Keep going. Yeah,
but you know, I really like, I really like.
Speaker 1: But I just want to say, I just want that
where patrons tune into a live show it's just kirk
On past out the fucking couch somewhere and like, what
the fuck is this? And that's the end of the
geek first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the Raptor scene that was that was fun
ambushing them, just absolutely fucking them up. Uh yeah, I
think that much.
Speaker 1: Else to add, No, I think that was smart that
they didn't make them the full on bad guys again.
And it's great because you're gonna have this trajectory of
like they kind of have that again in three, but
then you really have the pterodactyls that are like the
main players in the third. And the only thing I
think that I think evens maybe I'm putting words in
his mouth that Spielberg says he regrets, so maybe take
that back. But I feel like it's just a general
consensus of man, they shouldn't have put that fucking gymnastics
scenes in there. You know, Like that's something where that
first movie with the Raptor, it's just it's so intense
and so personal and so just kind of like you're
just like claust her phobic in a way. But then
you have this girl like doing flips to kick them
and everything. That's where it feels like cheesy and action
and just kind of brings the Raptors down. So I
think I wish there was like a cut of this
movie where that didn't exist. I remember Emily's like, oh
was this like she was she some famous Olympic person
that that's why they did this, But then when they
did this stunt, it was clearly like not her, and
older woman like, no, it definitely wasn't her. So yeah,
I wish I wish someone's like had a one Sover's like, dude,
really need this in here, because I think that just
never age as well. It just still feels very very
like family channel. And she gets like she's got a
gymnastics the dinosaur.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, not have to make her team though
she got to fucking cut off that. Yeah, you imagine
she was like falls. It's like, clearly okay, she should
have been cut from her team, and she just fucking
died of the raptors. There you pause that instance, and
it's like, clearly just some like shredded gymnast dude, like
the standing stunt double in most scenes. Uh maybe in
a parody version, but yeah, that was weird. That was
a weird choice. And it was one of those things
when like they bring up the gymnastics like however long
like in the movie, I'm like, it is gonna come
up again. And this was a specific scene that I
had actually forgotten about and it was just see it,
just to see it, you know, it's like, oh, yeah,
that's happening right now.
Speaker 3: This movie, it surprised me how long it was. I
was expecting it to only be an hour and a
half and it's actually just over two hours in my opinion.
You know, you probably could have cut the gymnastics scene.
Speaker 1: Gymnastics, Yeah, well, I think because they added that other
It's tough because they added the other camp and I
liked that idea. But you got to get into a
lot more with these other characters, and not even that deep,
but you got to get into more of that. And
what I do like in the middle of the bushes, Yeah,
when cable Guy dies is that they come to help them.
I like that. The whole movie wasn't just like, well,
fuck you and fuck you. Like wasn't the two groups
just like against each other. There was a point when
they both realized, hey, we're in big trouble. We have
to work together. And I always like that in the
movie when the antagonists and protagonists have to legitimately work together.
So and you have lots of little like I can't
remember too, what's the hunter's name, Roland? Roland? I can't
remember the actor's name. He's such a great like side
character in just every movie he does, Like one of
my favorites is The Town. But Roland, he's a character
if we're if this movie came out in these day
and ages, they'd be like, okay, rolling the Disney Plus
series this fall. But I really like that because again,
right when you meet him, he seems like just a hunter.
He's all about the trophies and stuff like that, and
he slowly gets like peeled away in that line at
the end of just like, oh you want to job
the park, He's like, sorry, I've surrounded myself around death
too much already. And just in Situa, the like yeah,
when you open up this park, everyone's gonna fucking die.
And he just like wal He just like pimps off
the sunset, Like he's someone I wish was still alive
so he could be in the fucking Dominion crew and
like helping out. But I like all those characters. I
like the many new like John Hammond that is or
isn't his son, you know, like he's just no, I know,
it's just like the way they play him up. But
I like him enough. He has like a John Hamn Clone.
My favorite thing is there's two like things that happen
with So they're pitches, no more park there, We're gonna
bring the dinos to San Diego and we're gonna open
up park there, and they list off all these attraction
yet to da da. So if you're an investor, there's
this one moment where they finally figure out, oh what
they're doing, and it's him. He's on the island and
he has this like little workshop right, his whole little
display of what San Diego is gonna look like. So
imagine if you are sitting there watching this press conference
or whatever and you're like, Okay, I might invest in this,
and it ends with the fee getting cut because a
dinosaur just smashes fucking but you would question, okay, you
would question that, and then you go, okay, maybe it
wasn't dinosaur. Whatever. Second chance, they show up to the
boat and there's a bunch of people there, right, they're like, oh,
we're gonna see what these attractions are, and this tea
Rex breaks out of this fucking boat.
Speaker 4: That's done.
Speaker 1: This is what I just mean, Like the fact that
they still like, you know what, I'll still go and
see this t Rex and if any of them died,
they deserved it. It's just it's just so funny. Every
time they tried to do this like press conference for
this is why you should invest, it would go terribly wrong.
But yeah, if they're on an island with dinosaurs and
their feed cuts, I'm gonna assume the worst, you know, Yeah?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, Taylor, where we want to go?
Speaker 4: I guess I'll touch upon the rappers a little bit.
Speaker 5: I love the idea them just kind of holding their
nest I guess inside a human compound. I just love
that idea because it's just like, hey, we know the
threat as humans and they have identified that and if
humans ever come around, they're probably gonna come here, so
we'll just use this as kind of our home turf.
I just like that kind of concept. What else though,
this maybe just more of the t rex stuff. Think
they've played with some great moments using the t rex,
like the tent scene when Kelly and Sarah were in
there and the t Rex is just on like on
top of the sheets or whatever, just like trying to
figure what's going on, and then the waterfall seem out
o the waterfalls? Travis, what do you do in this scenario,
you got a snake coming down your church and you
have a t Rex in fronny, what do you do?
Speaker 4: Are you gonna be like that scientist guy or.
Speaker 1: No, I clearly stick with the snake. As much as
I hate snakes, the snake is like fear maybe death
of you get but where t rex is one hundred
and ten percent death, right, you know, like, I know
you staying with the snake even if you got sure,
stay calm, Like.
Speaker 2: I feel it's an easy thing to say, but like
when it's a crippling phobia, it's like it's just.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, it scares me more than snakes though. Yeah,
but this guy who.
Speaker 4: New dinosaurs, you think the same thing, but he saw
the snake and obviously it got the better of him.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think that's it because I don't like snake.
But I just I don't like you said, you never know,
but I just don't think that's snario because I just
like i'd be so fucking frightened of the actual t
rex that that snake might not even phase me anymore.
Speaker 2: You might just think point Actually, yeah, it's like if
you're if you're like getting shot at, you jump into
the ground and there just happens to be like spiders there.
I feel like you're just you're not even thinking about that.
You think about the bullets, Yeah, you're, yeah exactly. I
think I would start to think about the spiders a
little bit. I definitely would would stand up and just
get you. You're you're the t Rex guy. You're the
guy that's gonna be in the waterfall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean and that, like, like, I really.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't want to snake going down like my shirt.
Speaker 2: But what it's gonna do anything though? The t Rex.
You know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no talking down the t Rex like I
would just I like I it was just suck because
you close your eyes, just pretend like fuck, there's a
million other places I could be right now.
Speaker 4: He's probably not even being paid enough.
Speaker 1: Emily says, because I can hear you, I'm pretty sure
that snake isn't poisonous.
Speaker 5: So just to check the colors though, because it's got
the red, black, and yellow.
Speaker 1: But I'm scared of regular snakes. But then if it's
not poisonous even more again, I wouldn't know that. But
if it's not poisonous, even better. Yeah, sure it's gonna
be crawl on me, but man, that would just suck.
You know, rule about snakes. Red touches black, you're okay, jack,
Red touches yellow, and you're dead, fellow. Emily, don't rhyme
like that ever again. Come on, now, you're not sneaky.
Speaker 2: It's like, if they have a diamond shaped head, then
they have like where those little like cheeks would be.
That's their venom secks. That's how you know that they're
venomous or not. In fact, so you know these things.
Speaker 3: Apparently it was not venomous.
Speaker 4: Red touches yellow, it's poisonous.
Speaker 1: You want me to read this rhyme again. Red touches black,
you're okay, jack, Red touches yellow, you're dead, fellow. It's
rules about snakes. But again, yeah, no, I love that
shot though, Just fantastic. They're run out, get bit and
then the waterfall just fills with red. Much better than
there was the earlier one where the guy gets killed
by the little dinosaurs and they tried to like c
gi this blood in the river and it was moving
like fucking Wanda's missed from doctor Strange, Like what is
this blood like I get it's in a river, but
it's this doesn't look natural. But yeah, that waterfall kill
one of my favorite moments in the week. It's just
like and there's like a crunch and just and I
love too because in that moment, Sarah's like, oh, like
she finally realized what a fucking idiot she is and
got them in this situation after she dates Ian, who
clearly is probably suffering from some PDSD, she just makes
all the wrong moves. But I was like, yeah, she
needs to go next. But yeah, great shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that was great.
Speaker 4: What did you guys think of Carter?
Speaker 5: Like, I was always listening to the headphones and he's
the one who everyone's sleeping and he wakes up. He's like,
he freaks the t Rex out. Everyone panic and the
t Rex steps on him. He's the one who have
I forgotten? He didn't remember when the guy went away
to go take the bathroom break and he had his
headphones in his ham he didn't remember him.
Speaker 1: First of all, the t Rex scene, you're completely wrong.
He sees the t Rex and he just yells ah,
he doesn't go.
Speaker 4: He starts speaking in his native language.
Speaker 1: He does he just maybe but I feel like it's
more a yell, but I guess I can't. That's why
you were such a Jurassic Park fan, because I just
like Carter, Like he's just like, yeah, he's in the movie,
like there's nothing special about him, but he stood out
for you, so he deserved to die. But I do
like that everyone's running and Yon the toddler lungs and
Ian's just like, don't move. But it's like, dude, it's gone.
Everyone's it's gone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just you.
Speaker 1: Gotta get sheltered out. Like everyone's moved. There's no recovery
from them.
Speaker 4: So okay, aside from Carter, then his teammate guy that
he had much more prominent role, they got to died
by the comfies, So how did you guys?
Speaker 1: I like, you remember Carter, but they got to died
from the little dinosaurs who had more screen time.
Speaker 4: I honestly don't remember his name.
Speaker 5: I just remember Rolling giving him ship, like that's the
last time I leave you in charge.
Speaker 2: He had.
Speaker 1: Vince Vaughn, like he walked to Vince Vaughn, all tough,
and Vince Vaughn is like, what you're looking for trouble.
He's like, yeah, I found you and it's like, why
are you mother? He wants to be a badass, but
oh my god, yeah, it's just the male ma cheesemo
going on, and he's like the nine. He's like, oh
my god, this is so But I like like he's
a fine ship head character that deserves to get eating
die of the dinosaurs. You know, animal cruelty karma came
around that that's about it. And Carter he got stepped
on by a fucking dinosaur while he was yelling, you know,
r I Peter Carter?
Speaker 3: So on the snake guy.
Speaker 1: Who's fucking snake guy? Now?
Speaker 3: The guy had the snake crawl down his shirt.
Speaker 4: That's his name?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Is it burn?
Speaker 2: I think it's Snake Boys.
Speaker 4: Ready, you're right? Did you pull that name from go me? So?
Speaker 3: I'm actually a bigger fan than you, Taylor. That's how
I need that name clearly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, get my tattoo lasered off.
Speaker 3: I do want to give them the shout out. In
the beginning, he just like randomly shoots out dinosaur facts
and I was just like, you know, I feel like
that's a relatable character trope. I feel like if we
went to Jurassic Park with Taylor. You know, he'd be
spent out these random dinosaur facts and it was cool
because I actually didn't know some of the facts he
was talking about, so you know, he may be stupid
with snakes, but he was smart with dinosaurs.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had a fun a lot of like character archetypes
there that I think did well for the movie.
Speaker 2: I like that character too, because like it makes sense
if Okay, you have this second team that's going in,
like they would have their dino expert, and like he
like just very like in his wheelhouse, like again, spitting
facts like justic was going on. But I really liked
how he was like knowledgeable there. And then when they
have the interaction, then you have like Sarah kind of
like correcting him and like just being like, oh, this
is like the better scientists here. And I just I
just like the whole dynamic of Okay, these mercenaries, they're
not just like your jar head type characters, like they
actually have like their team. You know, like you're showing
out Roland, who's like the expert hunter tracker type character,
and then yeah, just having this guy but you know
what this you know what this is though, right, it's
just the mummy it's the same way of like there's
a smart team.
Speaker 1: Sarah is the smart, like Evie the smarter Diasta or
Ian Malcolms the sexy lead. You have like the whole
big you have the big group of people all together.
When did this movie come out?
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty seven?
Speaker 1: Okay, so now Mummy was coppying.
Speaker 2: This nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so this is the real moment. But it's
the same setup. And then in the middle, right, the
whole teams work together because they fucked up on the Mummy,
and then they start slowly dying and everything, and you know,
you can argue, they argue Eve he's a bad girlfriend too,
because like who the fuck reads the Book of the Dead.
While in the middle all of Egypt, what are we
doing here?
Speaker 2: Much is going on where they're like getting up in
there each other's face.
Speaker 1: The whole gun stare off. Yeah, have been a worse situations. Jonathan,
me too. Man, we got a retch of the Mummy, so.
Speaker 2: I feel like we've already done that. But still I
was thinking, like, I think it was just what we
did a conrat.
Speaker 1: I mean, we gotta do a retro.
Speaker 2: Once Mummy meme. It's like, fuck, I just need to.
I want a deep dive of that movie. It's so
it's so gold. It's such a great movie.
Speaker 1: But again, like we don't. They would have never done it,
but man I would. Again, it doesn't even fit timeline,
but I would do anything to put Rick O'Connell on
ev in the Jurassic Park universe. You know, like, fuck,
that would have been a good time. They dealt with mummies,
they can deal with these dinosaurs. But Tay you did.
Let me know, what did you think about like the
crew will? Like you defended Sarah wrongly, but what do
you think about the other Creek have Vince Vaughan the
Daughter Like I imagine you. I feel like you defend
movies a lot. But I'm sure you didn't like the
gymnastics scene you got Cable guy. What do you feel
about our our replacements for doctor and Ellie Sadler and
the two kids.
Speaker 5: I liked Eddie a lot while it lasted, I liked Uh.
I like Vinspon's character.
Speaker 4: Actually quite a bit.
Speaker 5: I just feel like he just he really played a
different character is what I'm usually used to in his
movies nowadays, and so I like that he just feels like,
I don't know, I feel like he's he's dishing it
out in this, like he gives a shit about this,
not just this role but the character he's playing and
just what he's trying to deliver and be part of
that Green Peace member kind of association.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you like he I don't know if you
know this, but he was. So there's original American cycle
he was. They remade American Psychle and he was like
the killer in it, like the main killer and Norman
Bates and stuff like that. Yeahh oh, and it's a
big time because it's in color, but it's literally a
shot for shot remake of the original, and everyone's like,
what the fuck why, It's just like, yeah, he vigil
Morrison's actually and that and then tell you like this U.
I had to look up the title. There's a movie
called Domestic Disturbance and it's John travolt Though. We should
fucking watch this one time because John Travolta is great.
But so it's he breaks up from his wife and
John Travolta is to the new husband, but he's like
abusive to the kid. So John Travolta's trying to prove
that he's abusive to the kid and it's like this
whole like action drang where they end up fighting at
the end of the Abuser Vince Vaughn vin Vinvaughn Intervolta
is like the hero dad trying to prove like he's
in Marcian, like, oh he has really animated and stuff.
But yeah, Vince Vaughn was he was trying like these
five years. He like his goal like I have to look,
I don't know what was the first comedy he did,
and then it just like he took off and there
was no going back for him. He tried. He was
in that True Detective season too, but I think people
are like, no, you're you're comedy guy now, you know.
Speaker 2: From old scare yep.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 5: Lastly, on Kelly, I didn't mind her, but yeah the
gymnastics scene didn't It didn't really need to be like
but wasn't necessary. I like this, she got super confident
decided to just go at it. It's one of the
rare times you actually see like a dinosaur dying, not
from a dinosaur or anything, or just being speared by debris.
You don't see that much in the Durastic franchise.
Speaker 1: So I think I think, like when just was something,
you could cut some stuff, I honestly think you cut
the daughter completely out. Like I think the reason her
getting the island's annoying. I think it's nice to add
something for Ian, but she does the GENESSEI. And then
the other thing is when they get to New York,
she just goes away. She's not in that finale at
all until she's back. And that's fine, but it's just like,
I don't think she really adds that much other than
she I like Ian, Like I like that Ian right
away it's like we're getting off the island everything like
it does make him look better, but you could have
done that even still with Sarah. So I think they
just wanted like another kid in there, you know, like
they do. They do it in all of them. Right
three has some world fonk, like it's always a kid
asked to be there, and you know, Okay, I get
the trope, But I had.
Speaker 2: Forgot about her character till the movie started, and then
I knew she was on the island, and then I
was just like, Okay, what's the reason that this happens?
And then when it when it actually happened, when she
just fucking like chills in the in the trailer and
he was just there for the week. It's like the
find find your own way home, Like it was just
a very street situation. Like yeah, we're questioning Sarah as
a guardian, but fuck even Ian Malcolm, like like what
was he expecting to happen there? Like her mom clearly
isn't in the picture right now.
Speaker 3: She's went.
Speaker 2: And then so it's like you stay, I'll be I'll
be back five days, Max, you know, like I'll be
back next week. It's like, hey, this is still a child,
Like you need to need to make sure she's getting
home like feeding, like like it's probably in school right now.
It was just a really it was just something that
like they just expect us to completely forget about and
I think he did until this viewing. But yeah, and
then when she's on the island, like you said, Travis,
like she just checks that box of Okay, we need
a kid to just have this, like it's not just
adults that are a thread here, like we got to
save the child. And I do agree with you like
the points about Ian or like the dynamic that she
brings to Ian's I don't know outlook on the situation
because yeah, he's instantly like just trying to get the
phone working to like get an.
Speaker 1: Airplane, just constantly getting different languages and stuff like that.
So good. I love that there's so much stuff happening
with all the other characters and he's always in the background,
like come a sack. He's trying so hard to get
something going.
Speaker 2: And that that's just like Jeff Goldbloom, like prime and role.
He's so good. I just because like you technitely don't
even need to have it. It's just like static and
then you can't get through. But like he's just kind
of having these conversations, same thing like we're talking about
in Dressic Park one when when Alan like jumps out
of the out out of the jeep and he's just
kind of like talking to himself still, Like it's just
man Like, I feel like I've never really appreciated him
until now. He's just so good at Ian Malcolm.
Speaker 1: Watched the Ragnarok again, man grand Master too, like the
it's great.
Speaker 2: That's right, he's so good in that role.
Speaker 4: He's as good.
Speaker 1: I was gonna sy one thing to shout that. I
guess it worse for me, but I I just laugh
when rolling he's like talking about hunting a t rex
if I gets a chance, and he just takes like
his like his' just rifle in there. Now. I don't
know how much is powerful less tranquilizers. I just still
actually feel like you need a little bit more than that.
So I felt it was kind of weird that he
could just go in there and do that. But uh,
you know that that was good enough, and I'm trying
to think anything else.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talk about the girls at the beginning, which
always said the girl was dead when I was a kid.
Until older I heard him say, like, oh, she was injured, but.
Speaker 4: You could have just been bullshitting.
Speaker 1: He hundred present could have just been bullshitting, you know,
but terrible for that family.
Speaker 2: Just wanted to get your wild opening to just have
like a little girl and like it's off screen, so
like until you hear that line, I didn't even I
feel like I didn't even hear that line. So I
just assume that you just got fucking eating a live
by these tiny little dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: There's a chance she did, and they made them add
that line in You're like, yeah, you can't, you can't
kill off this kid.
Speaker 2: So wild, like it's very dark. Yeah, this is innocent child,
full of potential and youth. It's just like fucking eating alive.
Speaker 1: And then you cut to John Hammon where he's like,
we need to protect these dinosaurs.
Speaker 5: It's just like, man, that weird transition of the palm
trees behind Malcolm.
Speaker 4: It's like he's laughing, like what a weird cut?
Speaker 1: And they could. Yeah, it was with the mom's scream
which turned into the train as well.
Speaker 3: I freaking love when she found those dinosaurs. So she's like,
what are you? Are you a bird?
Speaker 4: I like that?
Speaker 3: How did you get a bird from that?
Speaker 2: It is a bird? It is birds ancestor a bird.
Speaker 3: There you go. It definitely looks like a reptile. It
is definitely looks more like a reptile doesn't.
Speaker 1: Have to experience, you know, so.
Speaker 2: She doesn't know anything. She died of those tiny dinosaurs.
Come on, just kick one. I guess Peter died too, somebody.
I forgot Taylor, what I was just.
Speaker 5: Gonna say when you said Peter died that that scene
when like particularly when they all jumped on him and
the one comp is on his lip and he just
rips off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bite back, start biting their like, chomped their head off.
I feel I got no, yeah.
Speaker 3: Like pull them and throw them. How strong do you
think they really are? Like they're they're tiny.
Speaker 4: They're tiny.
Speaker 5: But there was there was probably at least like thirty
of those things just consistently coming.
Speaker 2: Probably like razor teeth too, imagine.
Speaker 4: And he was disoriented. He didn't even piss yet and
that was his goal.
Speaker 2: So that probably hallucinating at that point.
Speaker 4: They weren't even coffees there.
Speaker 2: Because it's bladder exploded, a completely different situation.
Speaker 1: His friends cover from, Like, yeah, the dinosaurs got them.
He didn't dive from a bladder infection.
Speaker 4: Fuck.
Speaker 2: I mentioned like I liked in this movie, like the
threat of just another human faction kind of coming into
being assholes. That little montage of just them like capturing
the animals, just showing like the dark side of of
Like what the situation. I liked it again it villainified.
Are these these new mercenary crews that came in there?
And what led to Like when you have Vince Vaughn
going and there, he's like, I'm the contingency plan, puts
on his fucking like Spec Cops outfits go like sabotage. Again,
didn't exactly happen the way I like to dramaticize a little,
but still he goes in there, yeah, just killing people
because predator like rifle thing.
Speaker 1: Just throwing stars. Here's just like a camp scene.
Speaker 2: And yeah, he's just like opening the pens and like
what I don't even remember what they're doing specifically, but
like when that that that three horn, yeah that's the
like just goes to the pen. That was like such
a wild Jumpscara moment. I wasn't. I feel like I
completely forgot about it. It just like goes right through the
tent and just holy f zero hundred instantly.
Speaker 1: Guy in his pants, for sure, you're just sitting there
and busting through that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely insane. And then I love too, and it
was named Roland. When he takes those shots, his rifles
is not working.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 2: Is it like it's like do you see Vinsvaughn like
like play with his gun or something or is it
just like not until later on when they have the.
Speaker 5: Bullet, because yeah, when they all take their break and
Roland like sets the gun down and vince Vaughn says,
there he looks.
Speaker 2: I definitely missed that moment because I remember in that
scene when he shoots shanea were just like this gun
just like it's just randomly doesn't work. I guess let's okay,
and then like sir goes one weapon and then like, however,
long later, ten minutes later, you see Vince Vaughn like
the showing off the bullets, like, oh, of course we
have our spec offs that just did this. But I
completely missed the scene when they show them eyeball on
the dude's rifle.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of scenes too, just top my head.
I will rattle off, uh when uh gold bloom Ian
Ian Malcolm is leaving the hide High to go because
nobody's answering the fucking phone for whatever reason, so I
guess they're the handsful. But anyways, he like is he
going down, and Eddie like goes through all the safety
features and it's like a decent amount of time like
setting up this hardest type thing, and then he's like, yeah,
you just gotta squeeze, and then he just absolutely collapses
and that that was a comedy mom that actually really
got me. He's like, I guess he didn't squeeze hard
enough because you don't see him crash, you just hear
like that was great. And then right at the beginning
of the movie, like when it shoots to Ian on
the train and this fucking like dude, bro, It completely
forgot about this guy. But he's just like chewing his gum.
Speaker 4: He's like, hey, you're the guys snapping.
Speaker 2: It's just like such an interesting character to have in
that moment.
Speaker 1: But just gonna.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be a dominion. He fucking made me laugh
so hard in that. See, I completely forgot about him.
But just the type of person Ian probably doesn't like
dealing with any time of the day. But he's just
got this guy questioned about him. It's just fuck, that
was funny. That got me. I completely forgot about that
character rightfully, so, but still it was a good moment.
Speaker 4: He is funny. He is annoying because yeah, he's like
snapping like you're him, right, And.
Speaker 1: So people do to me and Colonne all the time.
Speaker 4: Ye scientists on TV, Right, they got these old ladies
staring at him. Yeah, he like leans in closer, likes
gonna be best buds with you too.
Speaker 2: So weird, so weird.
Speaker 1: The three things I just want to shut out is
this is a good moment. When they're first at the
park together Ian and his daughter and she says to
this line where she says cut then Bilga cord Dad
just such like a great like shitty teen line. That's
the oh when he goes into the hide and the
cable guy or whoever we're calling him and Edie Edie
and he's like, what's going on down there? And then
he's like you'd be happy or not knowing really like
that line, and uh, there's a really awkward thing. So
they get the of course bad idea. They get the
t Rex. In New York. Something goes one boat's completely
fucked up and then the t Rex gets out all
the stuff. There's some guy that just picks up a
like I'm like the lever and she's like, what's this buttoner?
And he just hits it and like fifteen thousand people
are screaming knowing him, but he still decides to hit
this lever.
Speaker 4: No, they told him to check the cargo hold.
Speaker 2: Remember it was just like the two signs.
Speaker 1: I guess but that yeah, there's two but yeah, I guess.
Serani are just like, don't like.
Speaker 2: You remind me about that scene though, because this was
one moment when I was really like, this doesn't fucking
make sense at all, So we're we're saying that the
t Rex fucked up. The crew made sure that the
ship was going full tilt towards the harbor and then
just hid in the fucking like bottom areas.
Speaker 1: Good in dress Park one.
Speaker 2: I was like, how like the t Rex disappeared here
and saved them all from the raptors? Okay, whatever, but
this is a whole notice can of worms. They're like underneath.
Speaker 1: Even then when the one.
Speaker 2: Hand on like the wheel, like, it was just so.
Speaker 1: Weird on even go back to the trailer scene, so
they they do this thing, they show the Diansaur off
and then they give the baby t Rex back right,
and then it goes away and then all of a
sudden and Malcolm's like something bad's gonna happen, and the
trailer gets hit. It's like, how did you, like, why
did the guy not phone again? And two how do
you not hear? Like they made such a big deal
of like how loud they were, and they like, something
bad's happening and then they just out of nowhere start
volleyball and it's like, how did you not hear them
at all. It didn't track at all what they're calling neudy.
But so anyway, so that happens, and then like Minnie
John Hammond, he's realizing his life's over right and he's
sitting here. He's all like to shovel, and then Ian
Melco or Sarah goes up to him and he's here,
and Sarah gets up like really close, just like where's
the baby t Rex? And then at the frame, Jeff
Golden comes like really close to me. He's like give
me the location, and they're like, really, you find a phone?
But like they're all three really close together. I'm like,
what the fuck is cash? Yeah, like what is his
shot we're doing? It's very strange, but uh yeah. And
then that like the t X goes and fucks up
New York and I it's funny. Now in retrospect, I
kind of wish they didn't do because now we're getting dominion,
but I kind of get the idea same thing SQL talk, right,
what do we gotta do? Well, we gotta get one
of these islands in New York or something like that.
There's so much shots that him and the dog, him
drinking the pool like him drinking the pool like nice touch,
like or here is it a girl or boy dinosaur
this one day?
Speaker 4: Do you remember the one in New York in San Diego?
Speaker 1: Yeah, San Diego.
Speaker 4: Sorry, this was the male.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's some really fun stuff they do with
them there. But uh yeah, I feel like what they
want to do is what they're probably getting do me.
Not the same extent, but it's I think it works.
It's a good different finale for the movie.
Speaker 2: In the in the scene the San Diego moment when
our boy t Rex looking for some little thirsty thirst
I can't believe. First of all, we're talking about like
shitty girlfriends they just have a like that family just
had their fucking dog like chained up outside in the
middle of the night. Like I get there's outdoor dogs,
but the fact that it's just like chained up to
its house.
Speaker 1: In the nineties, it was just really weird to me.
Speaker 2: You know, ri Ip, that dog got absolutely eaten. Uh
but I was just like, Okay, no, the family's just like,
you know, chain them up for like an outdoor little something.
And then it goes to the parents are just completely
fucking crashing. They're out cold. Little boy comes in there's
t rex in the backyard. They're like this fucking and
I love the parents start like arguing. It's like, yeah, yeah,
it's like a marriage story tee going on.
Speaker 1: I wake up everything wishing that dinosaur. Ain't you your
mother gave him that fish to take you?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 1: Else? Do you just get anything else to shut up
for this movie?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I got a few things to mention. So one is
at the end, after they've done all of this, to
lead the t rex back to the boat, like you know,
the suspending disbelief one TRNK Dart took that thing out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like it either, even when they did
the island. I just maybe that maybe that's science. Well one,
it can't be sense because we don't have t rexes,
but maybe that is. Maybe there's huge animals. But I
just I just feel like, yeah, that you needed a
couple then, more than just the one.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I for sure. And then I also wanted
to just ask, would you guys rather be like eaten
swallowed the snake or stepped on and like stomped multiple times?
Speaker 1: It depends like if the stomp is an instant death,
definitely the stomp because it'd be over before you get it. Uh,
being swallowed, you should be good, But if you're alive,
that's not gonna even gonna feel great.
Speaker 2: So I feel like the stomp would be preferable because
even if you don't die instantly, I feel like you're
just being so much shocked that you wouldn't even feel anything.
You'd just be like what is going on here? And
then you just die shortly after. But like, okay, I'm eating.
If I'm eating whole, you know, I I would slowly
get digested. But if I just get like chomped and
he just like snaps my leg and then he's just
licking me, you know, just having his having his tongue
a way with me, that's not that's not fun either.
And then I feel like I feel like the stomp
would be better.
Speaker 1: All those teeth through your arms and legs.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I know that because like the best case scenarios,
when he bites you, it's like an instant death, but
I feel like that'd be pretty rare. You would have
to get like all the good parts, but he probably
likes to, you know, get the arms in first.
Speaker 1: Just like Eddie felt that depart he felt.
Speaker 2: He was wishing he got stopped and then yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Exactly, he should He should just jumped off the fucking cliff,
is what he should have done. If you die, yeah,
that's gonna be instant death right there, jumping that explosion.
Speaker 3: Nodding about you, Taylor.
Speaker 5: What were the other options? Again, eaten stomped, and was
the other one?
Speaker 3: Those are the options to the third one in there?
Speaker 1: I thought there was the bite and then swallowed in
the stomp. But either way, yeah, swallow.
Speaker 5: You're gonna feel everything. I mean, if you're being if
you're gonna die it being bit that's a lot of bites.
Speaker 4: I'd probably go the stomp, honestly.
Speaker 5: I just don't want to have my eyes be open
and seeing this dinosaur throatism going down being eaten like.
Speaker 2: And like there's a chance you like end up drowning,
like that's your death because it's just like his fucking stomach.
That's not good.
Speaker 3: Ended up only stomping on like your bottom half, but
you're still stuck to his foot like being flail.
Speaker 1: I mean, story, yeah exactly, I was. Dinods were stepped
to me and I was attached to like five minutes.
Speaker 2: There's that guy on the bus. I know you yeah, you're.
Speaker 1: Him, right, he's making like stomping emotions stuff stuff. Can
we get this guy the fucking train please, just willing
to fos.
Speaker 4: It's down from those old ladies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you.
Speaker 3: And my last note was at the very end, we
see the pterodactyls. M Did we see them at any
other point? Did I miss in this movie?
Speaker 1: No? No, even the first movie. I think they're just
in the background, right or do you see them?
Speaker 4: I don't think you don't see him in the first movie.
Speaker 2: It's just regular birds.
Speaker 3: The first they just magically appear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were in hibernations.
Speaker 2: They're hatching Yeah that's what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're hatching out.
Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, that was my other kind of thing
that you know that definitely is leading into having another one. Right,
there's a way for the beast to get off the island. Now,
Oh yeah, here's this flying dinosaur. So what's going to happen? Yeah,
I think that's pretty much my main notes.
Speaker 4: A couple of things I'll point out, since you guys
are talking about.
Speaker 5: The the dosage or whatever. The tranquilizer shots, so those
are car fentanyl. So it is one hundred times stronger
than fentanyl and a ten thousand times stronger than morphine,
so one of those should have put it down. And
this goes into the mysteriousness of what happened with the
crew dying on the boat. Roland put two of those
into the t Rex, which would have put into a coma,
like they said in the movie, just kind of putting
it down for the count. When they were putting it
on the ship, they realized that something was going wrong
medically with it. So the crew tried to resuscitate the
t Rex and bring.
Speaker 4: It back again. It obviously didn't work them out.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to that point, Hey, Travis, come down
and we gotta resuscitate a treck. Yeah, you know, fuck
off the same thing too, Like I said to Emily,
Like when they get the t Rex back and they're
like they're bringing the t Rex back to the island.
Who was that fucking boat driver that was like, yeah,
I'll take the t Rex back. It's like not a
fucking chance. Sorry, No, just sink the ship. Like I'm not.
I'm not sailing the t Rex back, no way. It
just tore up San Diego. No fucking way, no way
I'm doing that. No one resuscitating it like, well, I
just trying to do like little pumps on the heart. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The no one has to drive it. It's just like
the first boat with the t Rex. It's just self driving.
Speaker 2: Stor just says.
Speaker 5: The I think somewhere in the original script it was
raptors got on board the boat and just killed the
crew and all that stuff makes sense.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I thought this before, and I
thought the same thing here. I'm like, oh, there must
be raptors on this, but they were. They never talked
about it.
Speaker 4: So I never talked about it.
Speaker 5: But again that that whole sequence is just the t
Rex being in the city. I fucking love it so much.
It's I love seeing the chaos and everything like that.
You'd see a blockbuster. I think it was a blockbuster.
Speaker 1: It's just like a movie with fake with fake movie posters.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just such a awesome sequence. The last thing
I'll point out is again in the original concept dar,
I'm going to pop this up, when the crews were
escaping after the raptors and the helicopters were coming, they
had it so that Tyranna dons are actually a terodactyls
were actually attacking helicopters while the crews were getting out
of there, and this actual concept dart from the film.
But I also believe there is even a sequence where
some people I think were getting on hand gliders and
hang gliding off the cliffs and like the terran actyls
were just tearing them up, Like these.
Speaker 1: People are idiots, hang gliderodactyls.
Speaker 2: Tune into the third movie, the the other thing, and
again this this movie has me wondering certain things.
Speaker 4: But I often wonder too.
Speaker 1: Like I haven't often wonder wonder I.
Speaker 5: Haven't looked thoroughly into it, but I wonder why aj
when he was going into the long grass is like,
don't go into the long grass, and he throws his
backpack away with the information and he's like.
Speaker 1: That's that you often want to write, Yeah, that's all
I got.
Speaker 3: On that note, I got one thing that Taylor would
probably like this the most. Just trying to find any
interesting Easter eggs. So in one of the scenes where
the t Rex is around Page in the city, there's
a bunch of tourists and they're shouting in Japanese, and
what they're saying is I left Japan to get away
from this, So homage to Godzilla means.
Speaker 1: That this cannon Godzilla somewhere in there.
Speaker 2: You know, the next it's like all these other side.
Speaker 1: Characters I would give this like, uh, I've gone back
and forth between like a seven or some point five
some go the classic seven point twenty five somewhere in
the middle there, because I always say seven movies are
either like guilty pleasure or the movie that I enjoy
that I will watch again, maybe all the time, but
still good enough. I guess it's just not strong enough
for me to get it to an eight because there's
some repeating ideas. There's some kind of character choices or
plot choice like we talk about other kind of or
just story persons, like the fucking like we talked about
the gymnastics. So I just can't get to eight because
the eight to me's like really really solid. I think
this is, though, like a really fun Durstic sequel. So
that's my thoughts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hmmm, I feel like I was adding eight
and then just thinking about like the end scene with
the t Rex just somehow fucking driving the ship while
he was in the bottom and the gymast, like just
some things that we picked apart it's like, Eh, okay,
I don't think I can quite go in eight, but I.
Speaker 4: Can clarify that context if you want to bump into
an eight.
Speaker 5: What context with the boat, the guy the boat, So
the guys they cecitate it, they resuscitate the t Rex.
T Rex was in a rampage and ends up significantly
injuring this one dude who manages to sneak out and
seal it back in.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that he dies from his wounds.
Speaker 2: And then his hand falls off on the YEP.
Speaker 4: I read that. I'm not kidding. I read that online.
That was a context.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense, it doesn't make it true.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, that didn't help much. I seven point seven
to five, I think a little bit higher than seven
and a half, going a full half up from Travis.
Speaker 2: I Yeah, I really like this movie. Like I said,
I think the whole plot is it's different enough from
the first movie to actually not just feel like a
carbon cop be but something new and building upon what
happened in the first because you couldn't have this movie
without the first, So it's it is like a it
is a good addition to the series. I'd say, Yeah,
I'm I'm excited for more. I was gonna ask the question,
was there like, because we have Sam Neil back for
the third movie, was there something that like happened where
he's like, oh, I wasn't a part of the second
one and Ian Malcolm was the big deal? Or Jeff Golobu,
so I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Come back to the third or is it just I
should schedule up. Maybe I'll look it up for Dress
Birth three because I meant to do some tree but
I forgot, so I'll try and do something for three.
I think it's just that everyone loved I could tell
probably even back then in the nineties, everyone loved Golden
so it's like, oh, we're going to do another one.
We could focus on Ian Malcolm because it.
Speaker 5: Was about it's the books too write like al there
wasn't a factor at all in the Lost World novelization.
Speaker 2: Okay, it was all Ian Malcolm again, and then okay,
that makes sense. Thense I was just curious because I
knew he was back for the third and Ian wasn't
back for the third, so I wasn't I wasn't sure
if it was just like, oh, he'll be back for
the third movie, so you can take the second one out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I like the way it's happened though, where
he was in second Grant and Elier in the third
and then in the sixth are all getting back together.
So I think it's kind of fun that worked out retrospect.
So yeah, for sure, Jessica font thoughts No, Yeah, I
mean no.
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like I can understand why I
forgot about this one. It. I don't know that it
worked for me. You know, it was it was fun
to watch it again, but I don't know that I
thoroughly enjoyed it. I definitely won't put this back on
again until probably ever, where as I could see myself
if someone's you know, was like, hey, we're doing a
dinosaur theme party, let's put on Jurassic Park, I'd be like, yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know you boys, you'll be watching this again at
some point in your life.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I forgot. Yeah, thanks. Well, No, it doesn't
stream on any platforms, so I don't have to one day,
one day Netflix all at bottom by then. Yeah, I
don't know. I give it one and a half t
rexes out of two, I guess, out of two t rexes.
Speaker 4: And a baby.
Speaker 3: No, it's two t Rexes and a baby t rex,
so it's actually only.
Speaker 4: Like baby bonus, right, what's the exchange plus five?
Speaker 1: H Taylor, your final thoughts on score.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this film again when it comes down to the
first two that we've talked about so far, if I
was picking one to watch, it's obviously gonna be that
first one, and it usually is always at first time
I put on this one, I'll put on when I'm
specifically craving this story and this adventure and action. So
I'm going to give it an eight out of ten
because it does have its plot holes and after reading
the novelization, it adds to this movie, but it also
takes away and to track certain components from this film
as well.
Speaker 4: But overall, it's just it's a really fun time.
Speaker 5: It's got a lot of great moments that it just
builds off of the world that we have established by
watching the first movie.
Speaker 4: So I'm very happy that we have it.
Speaker 5: And uh yeah, it's definitely it's definitely a sequel and
it led to uh good things in that third one.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm so excited for the third one.
I haven't seen in so long, and like I only
remember the memes really just fucking Billy stealing wrapped eggs,
just being a and like I started chuckling and I
held my tongue because I feel like I don't want
to talk about yet. But like his spoiler ler if
you haven't see the movie, his fucking death, it's so
questionable to me, like looking back at my memory on
like was it necessary, Like did he actually help out?
I'm excited to watch it and talk about with you guys.
Speaker 1: So well, that'll be the next one, Jurassic Park three,
where we get to talk about and the whole crew.
So until next time, I'll not be boring