WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:03.480 All right, what is going on? It's drivetime, it's a Monday. 2 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:06.040 It's about eighteen minutes past the hour, two o'clock. We 3 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:08.679 got a little loose on Cross Talk today, myself and 4 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:09.480 Sean O'Connell. 5 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:09.679 Too. 6 00:00:10.640 --> 00:00:12.720 Happy bunday to you. Hope you had a great weekend, 7 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:14.720 and as it is every single day, it's gonna have 8 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:16.719 you along for the ride. Spence check, it's beyond the mic. 9 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:20.800 That's Porter Larson beyond the Glass today. Dam pac Man 10 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:22.839 love Monday shows in the fall. We got a lot 11 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:25.079 to do, of course, a lot of it will involve 12 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:28.719 the college football weekend that is now behind us and 13 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:32.479 looking ahead to a massive, massive week for both Utah 14 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:35.079 and UYU as Big twelve plays upon us. So a 15 00:00:35.119 --> 00:00:38.679 lot to do on this Monday afternoon edition of The Drive. 16 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:43.159 Pro Football. The NFL Week two will culminate tonight with 17 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:45.320 their little Monday Night football that you can hear on 18 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:49.359 this radio station. It is the Eagles hosting the Falcons 19 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:52.439 Philadelphia five point five point favorite the over unders forty 20 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:57.799 five point five. A lot of crazy offsets in pro football. 21 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:00.280 We'll talk some NFL on the show today, of course, 22 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:02.640 a lot of college as well. DYU went up to 23 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:06.359 Laramie and had no problem, no problem at all. That 24 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:09.640 game was over early BYU jumped on Wyoming and made 25 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:13.319 sure they had no chance in that game, which they didn't. 26 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:16.239 It was a very impressive performance of both the PYU 27 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:20.879 and Utah. Now into our Big twelve game week YU 28 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:24.879 host K State on Saturday night at eight thirty. Utah 29 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:28.599 is on the road at Stillwater taking on ok State. 30 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:31.120 Both those two teams of State clean and Utah and 31 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:34.680 BYU State clean in the non con So away we go, 32 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:37.599 Away we go, and we'll talk a lot about all 33 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:42.599 of that on the program today. RSL got stopped by 34 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:45.120 the Houston Dynamo, of course, because that's kind of a 35 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:48.200 deal now, So get into somebout on the program today, 36 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:50.280 good guest list, as we do every Monday in the 37 00:01:50.359 --> 00:01:53.599 afternoons here on your home of the Utes, we played 38 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:57.799 Coach Witz Presser. If you missed it from earlier today, 39 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.920 we'll bring that back around to you coming up. Then 40 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:03.359 we're gonna bring you in. Josh Furlong on the program today, 41 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:06.400 Josh to stop buy It covers the Utes for OKSL. 42 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:09.039 Our good friends over at KSL give you our Big 43 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:11.599 twelve power rankings. You do it every Monday on the show. 44 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:13.960 A little bit of a shakeup for me. We'll see 45 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:15.759 what Porter has to say. That comes away at three 46 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:19.400 point thirty, and then Tony Parks live in studio. Always 47 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:21.599 enjoy catching up with Tony later on the show. So 48 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:23.280 we'll bring you a little coach with we'll chat with 49 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:26.560 Josh Furlong, we'll do our Big twelve Power rankings. We'll 50 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:28.919 bring in Tony Parks, Me Spence Check. Its all of you, 51 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:32.560 the great listeners, and that guy Porter Larson on a 52 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:36.360 Monday afternoon. So the young man looked pretty good. Isaac 53 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:40.520 performed pretty well. That was a anxious start, you could 54 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:44.240 feel it for youth fans, but ultimately they handle their business. Yeah. 55 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:48.439 Yeah, obviously didn't get going the way that you would 56 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:50.759 have liked, or you would have intended if you are 57 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.080 the utes. But you get out of there with a win, 58 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:58.800 You get out of there no real injuries or long 59 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:02.719 term issues to speak of in that regard, and you 60 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:07.360 do get Cam rising back by all reports in still water. 61 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:13.000 So the result is no way to spin in any 62 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:15.759 other way than positive. But if you do want a nitpick, 63 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:19.639 if you do want to dive into the specifics there are, 64 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:21.719 you know, a lot of things that you talk and 65 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:23.520 still grow on, a lot of things that they looked 66 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:27.280 really good with, including the development of Isaac Wilson, and 67 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:29.919 that's something to be optimistic about. 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Standard Restaurant Supply, thirty five hundred 86 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:27.800 Southwest Temple. 87 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.399 The anxious moments over the weekend for youth fans, certainly 88 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:36.199 as Utah State up in Logan was able to take 89 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:39.519 a fourteen to three lead before the youths kind of 90 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:42.959 got their footing underneath them. So it took a minute 91 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:45.519 as far as that slow start for Utah football, but 92 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:47.839 they were able to find their footing and ultimately get 93 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.120 a pretty comfortable win over the Aggies thirty eight to 94 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:53.040 twenty one. So Utah had not been up north to 95 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:57.959 play Utah State in twelve years. So the Battle of 96 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:01.120 the Brothers is the wagon wheel BYU Utah State. Is 97 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:02.839 there a wagon wheel involved in this one? 98 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:07.680 I think that's the wagon wheel. It's Eyuutah State Battle 99 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:08.680 of the Brothers or something. 100 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:11.240 I'm on record. Whatever it is, I'm on record saying 101 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:14.439 that's the dumbest gift to give as a reward in 102 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:18.399 all of college football, really, so ergonomically incorrect. Who's in 103 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:21.360 charge of getting it back down to provo? That would 104 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:24.879 be a horrible assignment anyway, you know, battle the Brothers. 105 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:28.040 The one hundred and twelfth edition of Utah Utah State 106 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:30.680 goes Utah's way. So let's dig into a little bit. 107 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:32.680 We'll get to some yu before he played coach quick 108 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:37.079 coming up. So the questions heading into the game certainly 109 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:40.839 were surrounding the quarterback position, as they have been and 110 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:43.199 will be for a while. So we told you on 111 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:45.800 our show last Monday that I was told Isaac was 112 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:48.920 getting the reps with one. So I wasn't surprised to 113 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:51.920 see Isaac hunder center. Cameron Rising was dressed, he did 114 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:54.720 warm up. They go with Isaac Wilson, and it was 115 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:56.600 a little bit of a shaky start, but man, did 116 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:59.759 this kid settle in. And according to our friends at PFF, 117 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:03.560 Isaac Wilson highest graded true freshman running back from Week three, 118 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:07.519 a PFF grade of seventy three point five. And it 119 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:11.040 was good news for so many different reasons. Let's get 120 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:13.560 into a few of them. First of all, let's say 121 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:15.920 most of you probably do not bet, and you shouldn't. 122 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:17.800 As I say on the show, do not gamble on sports. 123 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:19.319 You work too hard for your money. Keep it in 124 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:21.759 your bank account, keep it in your pocket. But if 125 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:25.120 I said to you, you have to bet your next 126 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:28.040 paycheck on whether or not Cam Rising is going to 127 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:31.399 play in every game moving forward, what would you bet 128 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:34.600 it on? We would all bet it on probably not. 129 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:37.000 Nobody wants him to get hurt. Certainly we all want 130 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:39.680 to see Cameron under center, as porter referenced earlier, all 131 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:42.879 of the reports and coach with himself saying they expect 132 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:46.079 him under center in Stillwater to take on Oklahoma State. 133 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:49.160 Oklahoma State has stayed clean. They trounced Tulsa over the 134 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:52.560 weekend after getting a win over Arkansas that was really 135 00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:55.279 hairy for them. Quite frankly, they were lucky to get 136 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:56.879 that done. They beat South to go to State to 137 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:59.480 start the year. We'll get into Okay State throughout the 138 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:00.959 course of the week. On this show, he kind of 139 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.600 start to turn the page closer to Wednesday. They can 140 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:06.399 really run the football, and right now Utah has some 141 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:08.839 things to fix because Utah State was able to get 142 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:11.519 yards on the ground with Rescuo Faison, who had one 143 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:15.439 hundred and fifteen yards on nineteen carries. But Isaac specifically 144 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:20.079 answered so many questions for so many people on Saturday, 145 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:22.720 and yes, Utah State is not a P four team, 146 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:25.879 it's not a big twelve team. Nate Drawling's a defensive coach, 147 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:28.560 so you know that their defense was prepared and they 148 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:31.560 did cause some problems for Isaac. It wasn't perfect. It 149 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:34.439 wasn't perfect on out of side of the ball. Kar Karen, 150 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:37.639 I excuse me. Karn A. Reid also sat he is 151 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:40.879 expected to play against Oklahoma State, but that was an issue. 152 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:44.439 Utah sacked Bryson Barnes once Utah State was able to 153 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:47.160 grab three eighty five of total. Oh that's way too 154 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:49.879 many yards. I'm sure coach went Morgan Scalley not thrilled 155 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:53.079 about that. So certainly things to clean up prior to 156 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:55.759 this road trip, which is so big for so many 157 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:59.240 different reasons. Utah, by the way, is the favorite out 158 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:02.879 of the gates in Vegas. Utah in Stillwater as of 159 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:05.319 now is a one point five point favorite. The over 160 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:07.959 under is fifty one point five. It is supposed to 161 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:11.600 be super hot down there next weekend. The AC game 162 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:14.839 time weather as of now is ninety three degrees. And 163 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:17.759 remember you usually get about three points built in as 164 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:20.040 the home team, so Vegas thinks Utah is about four 165 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:22.959 and a half five points better than Oklahoma State. We'll 166 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:24.600 see whether the wise guys think. We'll see where the 167 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:28.680 sharks think. We'll see if that line moves. But Isaac 168 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:32.440 has answered a question that was simply never answered last year, 169 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:35.799 and that is, if Cam is unavailable, and last year 170 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:38.080 was also if Brandon Rose is unavailable, the first two 171 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:41.080 guys go down early, what does that position look like? 172 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:43.279 It was never fully answered. It was Bryson, then it 173 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:45.000 was Night, then it was both of them sometimes, then 174 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:47.159 it was my guy, the Ferrari Batari for a minute, 175 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:50.399 we just never knew what to expect under center. And 176 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:53.240 the nice thing about what we saw on Saturday is 177 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:55.440 should Cameron have to miss time? And let's hope he 178 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:57.919 does not. Let's hope he's ready to go on Saturday 179 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:00.879 and plays every single game the rest of the way. 180 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:03.360 But again, if you're a betting man, what's your confidence 181 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:05.799 level if that's going to happen? And right now, the 182 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:08.679 best team in college football is dealing with their own situation. 183 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:12.120 Quinn yours is week to week Arch Manning. We saw 184 00:09:12.159 --> 00:09:15.480 the next great Manning QB. Five total touchdowns, including a 185 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:19.679 ridiculous scamper, the longest touchdown ron of a Texas quarterback 186 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:22.919 since Vince Young. So Steve Sarkisian got some answers on 187 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:25.919 Saturday from RCH. Kyle Whittingham got some answers on Saturday 188 00:09:25.960 --> 00:09:30.080 from Isaac. And it doesn't matter who you are, which 189 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:32.799 team you are in football, chances are no matter what 190 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:35.240 the position is, you're going to need multiple players to 191 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:37.360 be able to step up and play that position, not 192 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:39.679 just one or two, sometimes three or four. We learned 193 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:42.639 it last year with his quarterback stuff. That was such 194 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:45.440 an emphatic answer for me of what Isaac has in 195 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.120 him that we can debate all the other stuff. The 196 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:51.320 run defense wasn't great. You didn't pressure the quarterback. You know, 197 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:54.559 you allowed too many tenuous moments against the team. You're 198 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:57.360 clearly better than We can get into all that stuff. 199 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:00.600 But ultimately, I'm sure Kyle and Andy and the whole 200 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.759 coaching staff on that bus ride back down a Salt 201 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.399 Lake had big smiles on their face because their young 202 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:11.799 freshman quarterback, the fifth true freshman in Utah football history 203 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:14.559 to start a game, set a true freshman record with 204 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:18.360 three touchdown passes and answer the question of what do 205 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:21.360 we look like when we don't have our starting quarterback? 206 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:23.519 When Cameron is not right, what do we look like? 207 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.639 And the goodness is this year, at least for now, 208 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:29.240 it seems like they'll look a lot better than they 209 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.039 did a year ago. All right, over to BYU real quick. 210 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:35.080 Like I said earlier, they jumped on Wyoming. It was 211 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:39.080 over quick, and that crowd, which gets loose, certainly had 212 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:41.639 nothing to cheer for. Reetz left comes out, he throws 213 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:43.440 the pick and you're like, oh, dude, And then Bohanna 214 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:46.159 was actually warming up before this thing got out of control. 215 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.039 After Jake threw another pick because Aaron Roderick last week 216 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:54.000 he said turnovers will be eliminated from my offense. Jake 217 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:56.200 throws a pick. Are they going to throw by handing in? 218 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:59.559 They didn't, and Rehet's left bounces back, throws for two 219 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:02.519 ninety one on three touchdowns. He did have that one 220 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:05.720 pick QBR of seventy five, which is fine, but Wyoming 221 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:08.399 had nothing. And as soon as BYU had that kickoff 222 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.440 return for the touchdown on the other side of halftime, 223 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:13.879 it was curtains there was no comeback to be had. 224 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:17.000 So both BYU and Utah stay clean and the non 225 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:19.120 con and now they welcome in two of the best 226 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:21.279 teams in the Big Twelve that Lavelle Edwards is going 227 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:24.559 to be eight point thirty on ESPN, Kansas State rolls 228 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:27.600 into town as a seven point favorite and the over 229 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:31.080 under is forty seven point five. All right, Coming up 230 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:33.039 on the other side, as we are wont to do 231 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:35.759 on this radio show, on this radio program, we are 232 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:38.320 going to be joined live in studio I believe by 233 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:44.759 doctor Angela Peterson, right, yes, yes, so let's get her in. 234 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:47.279 We'll be joining studio real quick. And then coming up 235 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:49.000 on the other side, we are going to catch up 236 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:52.679 with coach wit. If you miss Kyle Whittingham's press conference 237 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:55.440 from earlier today, as we are wont to do on 238 00:11:55.480 --> 00:11:56.960 this show, we bring it back to you in the 239 00:11:57.000 --> 00:12:00.480 afternoons just in case you got distracted did not have 240 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:02.879 a chance to check it out. So Josh Furlong will 241 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:05.879 stop by give you our Big twelve power rankings. Tony 242 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:08.639 Parks live in studio, we'll get to some NFL stuff, 243 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:10.679 a lot of locals in the NFL making some big 244 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:14.440 time plays. Tim Patrick. Tim Patrick with a couple of 245 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:17.600 catches for the Lions, first time Tim had catching an 246 00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:20.200 NFL game since twenty twenty one. So some good stuff 247 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:22.840 as it pertains to what we saw in the NFL 248 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:26.080 over the weekend with some local players making plays. Catch 249 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:28.679 it a lot of strays today. Did you have a 250 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:30.720 chance to tune into cross talk or were you busy, 251 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:32.639 you know, producing a radio show. 252 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:37.320 I actually did not get to hear much of a crosstalk. 253 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:40.200 Love is the te Let me love it out and 254 00:12:40.279 --> 00:12:42.799 we'll get to coach with and maybe we'll readdress this later. 255 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:46.440 Based off some feedback, Sean on his show was giving 256 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:50.360 away tickets to Disney on Ice and made a statement 257 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:53.159 along the lines of, you know, great thing for your kids, 258 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:54.879 or like if you don't have kids and you want 259 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:58.360 to go something along the lines of that. And I 260 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:02.039 made the statement that Disney adults adults that do like 261 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:04.600 the full Disney thing, right, And I'm not talking about 262 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:06.960 watch a Disney movie. I'm not talking about maybe go 263 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:10.960 there one day or something. I'm talking about, like, you 264 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:13.399 plan the trip. It's like a week long trip. You're 265 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:17.440 either Disneyland, Disney World. You're at resort hotels, so you're 266 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:21.720 spending probably ten thousand dollars start to finish, and that's 267 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:23.960 the deal. And you get together with your boys, or 268 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:25.840 you get together with your girls and you're like, hey, 269 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:27.879 we got to do the Disney thing, and that's the 270 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:30.039 thing that you do often and spend your time and 271 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.919 money doing often right without children. I find that to 272 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.000 be form of mental illness. Oh is that too strong? 273 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:39.120 I'm getting feedback. That's a little strong. 274 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:42.279 I would say it's a little strong, Okay, I will say. 275 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:46.159 And it's interesting because you're in a market that, let's 276 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:47.919 be clear, loves Disney. 277 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:50.080 Yeah, but most of people that love Disney have a 278 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:52.960 bunch of kids, or just some kids, or a kid 279 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:54.879 like me. I have one. I took him out of 280 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:57.840 Disney Cruise. I enjoy Disney, but I can't picture. I 281 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:00.279 can't picture like calling my buddies and being like, dude, 282 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:05.080 what are you guys doing? Third weekend of October. Get 283 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:08.639 ready for a little it's a small world. We're gonna, 284 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:11.879 we're gonna, we're gonna crush Space Mound like seven times. 285 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:15.000 We're going. We're going to Anaheim. We're standing at a 286 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:18.120 Disney resort hotel and I'm going to introduce you to 287 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.200 what it's like to ride on the Peter Pan Ride. Yeah. Together, 288 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:25.000 I'm with you, and you buy a sandwich and a 289 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:28.120 soda and it's like forty five dollars. It's not like 290 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:29.039 my cup of tea. 291 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:31.960 If you're not a sports fan, maybe you're not like 292 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:36.240 a big music, live music person, then you gotta find 293 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:39.759 your your entertainment somewhere. I I can't get with it. 294 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:42.879 I you know, I had my my Disney landfill when 295 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:47.080 I was a young child, and it happened quickly. But hey, 296 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:49.039 to each their own, each their own. 297 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:51.399 I feel about Disney the Disney experience the same way 298 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:55.480 I feel about Star Wars movies. I loved them, and 299 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:58.480 then I turned ten it was time to move on. 300 00:14:58.960 --> 00:14:59.159 Yeah. 301 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:02.360 OK, I'm not anti Disney. I just think the adults 302 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:04.960 that are crushing Disney often like for weeks at a time, 303 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:07.600 I think it's an interesting look. How about that? 304 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:10.600 Okay, okright, that's better than than mental illness. You know, 305 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:15.759 maybe some things to chat about a professional about as well, 306 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:16.279 if you want to. 307 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:18.559 Yeah, maybe I'll dig into that at some point, some 308 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:21.240 childhood stuff you want to maybe address. Scoop of vanilla 309 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:23.639 ice cream with making with Mickey Mouse. Here is forty 310 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:25.600 seven to ninety five. Thanks for coming to Disney World. 311 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:29.080 It's insane, man like the money that people spend there 312 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:31.799 is nuts. I think you should go again rekindle your 313 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.919 recapture my inner child, your child. Yeah, thanks for the advice. 314 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:36.759 There you go. All right, So we're gonna bring in 315 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:39.879 Josh Furlong today. We have tony parks later on, but 316 00:15:40.159 --> 00:15:44.559 as we do every single Monday during the college football season. 317 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:46.600 If you missed it from earlier, here's the head coach 318 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:47.919 of the utes coach you wit. 319 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:53.799 All right, hard fought game up in Logan against Utesh 320 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:57.279 State this past weekend. A lot of positives coming out. 321 00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:57.639 Of that game. 322 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:02.360 For small it was great to see Isaac have success. 323 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:07.639 And uh I thought he Berdy managed the Uh not managed, 324 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:09.720 that's probably the wrong word. He played exceptionally well in 325 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:12.799 the game. Uh once he got settled in. Uh we 326 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:14.919 got kind of a slow start as a team. UH 327 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.480 no explanation for that. They they uh did a good 328 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:20.799 job getting their guys ready. Uh the Aggies did, and 329 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:23.960 they were they were uh they played very well. They 330 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:27.399 were coached well. Uh and uh you know given them 331 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:30.519 credit for for uh our slow start. A lot of 332 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:34.080 that goes to them. But UH anyway, we uh ended 333 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:36.840 up uh gaining some momentum as the game went on, 334 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:41.840 UH ended up winning UH thirty eight twenty one, and 335 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:44.639 UH now it's time to get into conference play. So 336 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:48.039 uh as conference play from here on out starts at 337 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:51.360 Oklahoma State. UH tough place to play from what I hear, 338 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:54.759 have never been there, about the same size statium that 339 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:57.360 we have within you know, just a few hundred people, 340 00:16:57.360 --> 00:16:59.759 I believe, and so, so there's a lot of similarities 341 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:03.320 between the two UH programs. UH coach Gundys Dine a 342 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:06.480 great job there for a lot of years. And UH 343 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:11.519 they're undefeated three and zero, h highly ranked and as 344 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.400 are we. So should make for a good matchup. And 345 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:19.200 UH it'll be a intriguing start for us to the 346 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:23.319 uh you know, as as the first conference game, official 347 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:28.279 conference game in the Big twelve. So questions, Yes, Justice. 348 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:29.279 Says a great game on Saturday. 349 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:32.279 By the way, how are you planning on getting the 350 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:35.000 secondary out of the compound with the Oklahoma State coming up? 351 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:37.480 Because of the game with Utah State they got torched. 352 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:43.039 So they got torched. Huh okay, well great, we UH 353 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:46.440 give Test States some credit. They made some terrific catches 354 00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:50.720 in that first uh quarter, UH first half. I guess 355 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:55.160 you could say Uh, I thought our secondary was better. 356 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:57.680 As the game will on. I ended up intercepting the 357 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:02.319 football a couple of times. It made some uh plays 358 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:04.440 on the ball up the field in addition to the interceptions. 359 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:07.640 But you tested has some really good receivers, uh Bryce 360 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:10.319 and Barnes uh s can't say enough good things about him. 361 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:12.160 He's a competitive. 362 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:17.319 Kid and he uh played very well for him and 363 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:19.119 UH we just you know, the entire team needs to 364 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:21.880 get better. We we got uh deficiencies like everyone in 365 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:23.640 the country does. That's why you go out and practice 366 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:26.119 every week. But but uh we felt pretty good about 367 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:29.759 our secondaries play overall. I think they were right around 368 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:33.440 fifty percent completion percentage, which is uh where you'd like 369 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:35.079 to be as a as a defense, you know, keep 370 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:38.960 your opponent to fifty percent is uh playing some pretty 371 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:39.759 good pass coverage. 372 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:41.960 So but we'll, uh we'll. 373 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:44.200 Continue to work with those guys and and uh try 374 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:45.680 to make uh improvements. 375 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:49.319 Kyle, you've had a few freshman qbs over the years 376 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:52.519 start for certain games. When you're looking at Isaac what 377 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:54.759 a what does what does progression look like to you? 378 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:56.720 And how has he kind of tracked in and kind 379 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:58.400 of your estimation of who he is as a QB. 380 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:03.680 Well progression, there's uh better numbers, uh, you know, numbers 381 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:04.599 that are improving. 382 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:05.000 Uh. 383 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:08.119 I thought he had his best and this is his 384 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:11.640 first obviously start an opportunity to have the all the 385 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:14.160 reps during the practice week and and get completely tuned 386 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:17.000 up for the game. So that's uh you know what 387 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:21.160 you look for is is the uh statistical uh part 388 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:21.440 of it. 389 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:22.119 Uh. 390 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:24.440 His QBR was was pretty good for the game for 391 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:31.000 a true freshman. He needs to continue to uh gain command. 392 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:31.119 Of the offense. 393 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:34.319 Coach Ludwick's offense is not the easiest offense to to 394 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:37.319 uh to learn, but once you get it, it's it's 395 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:45.440 very effective. And so he's just continuing to uh attack 396 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:49.519 uh whatever that learning curve and and become more comfortable 397 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:52.319 with all his reads and and the checks and the 398 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:54.240 you know, there's a lover not only in the throw game, 399 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:55.480 but in the run game. There's a lot of checks 400 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:57.279 that need to be made in the run game. And 401 00:19:57.279 --> 00:19:59.279 and he's just continue to get better and. 402 00:19:59.200 --> 00:19:59.640 Better at that. 403 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:04.559 After watching the tape, what did you identify as the 404 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:07.640 reason the run defense somewhat struggled there against Utah State? 405 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:11.599 I would say for the game itself, we were not bad. 406 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:14.920 Not our usual would they come away with one hundred 407 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:17.279 and forty or one hundred and thirty yards rushing, which 408 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:20.119 is typically more than we give up. But give a 409 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:22.119 lot of credit to that running back. He was really 410 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:25.720 he was physical, he had good speed, good quickness, He 411 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:28.680 ran with violence, and he's going to gain a lot 412 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:30.680 of the arts this year. He's a quality back and 413 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:34.920 that's probably as much as anything else in the game 414 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:40.880 is that guy and his ability. But I thought, once again, 415 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:43.160 once the defense settled in, we got a lot stingier 416 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:48.160 in the run game and played much more effectively down 417 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:48.640 the stretch. 418 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:53.359 Coach you obviously, Mackay Bernard settling in seems to be 419 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:55.799 at RB one. But are you seeing encouraging science from 420 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:56.440 Mike Mitchell. 421 00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:57.720 Yes, we are. 422 00:20:58.839 --> 00:21:01.640 And he's been hampered by a nagging injury that just 423 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:05.519 keeps showing up every week. Uh, not enough to keep 424 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:07.400 him completely out of the game, but enough where he's 425 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:10.359 got to leave the game at times to to uh, 426 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:11.119 to let it. 427 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:13.920 Stop hurting, I guess, But but uh. 428 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:17.079 He is uh as a freshman doing a nice job. 429 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:19.920 That is a good complimentary back to McKay he's a 430 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:23.440 bigger back. He's nearly two hundred twenty pounds, and and 431 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:26.599 uh w'ere mckaye is uh about two hundred pounds maybe 432 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:29.039 two or five. So so he's he's a good compliment, 433 00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:33.200 gives us good complimentary Uh rushes and k Uh carries 434 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:36.680 UH in the game and UH as does uh. Deshaun Stanley. 435 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:38.920 He's another guy that contributes to the run game. And 436 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:41.640 so between those three guys right now, those three guys 437 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:43.640 seem to be the guys that have e merged as 438 00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:46.359 the the guys that UH at least for the moment 439 00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:47.079 that we're going with. 440 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:54.720 And we've talked a lot about Kivid Lohner and his 441 00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:57.880 pass catching abilities and all that, But are you seeing 442 00:21:58.480 --> 00:22:00.680 maybe differences in how teams are going against you when 443 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:03.160 he's in the you know, field goal kicking or or 444 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:05.200 what advantage does that give to have him there? 445 00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:07.079 With his hype, his. 446 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:09.319 Heights, that is the advantage. 447 00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:13.960 I mean, he's uh six foot seven plus giant wingspan, 448 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:16.720 so that adds to the elevation he gets and he's 449 00:22:16.759 --> 00:22:19.480 a great leaper. So you put all that together and 450 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:23.039 that makes him very effective at that role, that particular 451 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:26.279 role in b at field goal block. He's got his 452 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:28.599 hands on two of them. Now well would have got 453 00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:30.079 to I think Van got the first one in the 454 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:32.599 in the in the game last week, but Caleb looked 455 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:33.920 like it was right on the track for him to 456 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:36.799 get it had Van not got the tip. But anyway, 457 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:39.759 he's a he's a he's effective in that role, and 458 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:42.359 I think you're going to see him become more and 459 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:45.960 more of a factor offensively as the season wears. I'll 460 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.160 remember he's never well I wouldn't say never, but he 461 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:50.519 hasn't played much football in his life and it's been several. 462 00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:51.839 Years since he has. 463 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:55.519 And you saw that nice catch and Isaac threw a 464 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:57.119 great ball, by the way, that's just how you draw 465 00:22:57.200 --> 00:22:59.440 that up is he's a throw it up where only 466 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:01.599 he can get it, which was the result in the 467 00:23:01.599 --> 00:23:05.200 game this past weekend. And we're going to try to 468 00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:09.039 continue to expand his role and give him more opportunities. 469 00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:10.839 And he is really. 470 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:17.519 A tough eager has a great desire to be to 471 00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:19.920 be successful, and so that's a big part of it, 472 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.039 and that's why he's off to a good starts because 473 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:23.039 of his attitude. 474 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:26.200 Kyle has sort of mentioned that it seems like the 475 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:29.160 plan is to have camp play. You know, for the 476 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:32.000 past two weeks, what conversations have you had with him 477 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:35.880 in terms of protecting himself and going into this game 478 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:40.000 as specifically conference play. You've also mentioned that you need 479 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:42.160 him to win this conference. You know, what things are 480 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:44.400 you looking for in terms of you know, what he 481 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:47.119 might put on tape or how he needs to protect 482 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:48.680 himself going forward. 483 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:51.319 Well, what he needs to put on tape is just 484 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:53.200 what he's been doing for us really ever since he 485 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:56.720 took over. I mean, he's a he's a terrific quarterback. 486 00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:58.480 When he's on his game. 487 00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:01.279 He's typically in the top ten in the nation in QBR, 488 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:04.279 which again is the barometer that I personally feel is 489 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:08.000 the most accurate and best way to assess the quarterback play. 490 00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:11.000 And you have more of the same as far as 491 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:14.519 you're answer to or your question, what have we talked about, 492 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:16.519 you know, as far as getting out of harm's way, 493 00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:19.359 just doing a better job of that. And it goes 494 00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:22.240 against his grain. A. He's a tough, competitive guy, as 495 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:25.359 I've said you know, dozens of times, and it just 496 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:28.839 is not natural for him to turn anything down. But 497 00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:31.160 he's got to. He's got to be able to do that. 498 00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.000 You mentioned offensive line play was kind of hot and 499 00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:35.759 cold the first couple of weeks of the season. Is 500 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:37.559 that still the case. Have you seen them solidify in 501 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:39.839 certain areas and where are they still deficient? 502 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:41.039 Well, it was. 503 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:44.039 Kind of like the rest of the team. They were 504 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:46.119 not real good in the first quarter offensive line. That 505 00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:48.799 was their worst quarter of the game this past weekend. 506 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:50.920 But once that was over with them, we started to 507 00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:53.839 get into a groove. They played exceptionally well, probably played 508 00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:56.319 their best football the season the last three quarters. 509 00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:56.680 In the name. 510 00:24:56.720 --> 00:24:59.759 We rushed for two and almost two hundred and thirty 511 00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:02.440 yards and five point four carry. I believe it was 512 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:04.519 so what we talked about a couple of weeks ago 513 00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:06.359 in here, the balance that we're looking for and the 514 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:09.279 ability to run the ball over five yards a clip, 515 00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:11.839 you know, two hundred plus yards a game. That's exactly 516 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:13.880 what happened in this game. Although it didn't start out 517 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:17.319 very good. You know, we were very average at best 518 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:18.279 in the first quarter. 519 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:22.519 Coach Junior to film in a can a ton of 520 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:24.960 asa seem to be really disruptive on the interior. Is 521 00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:26.720 that kind of what you're hoping to see out of 522 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:27.480 them this season. 523 00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:29.799 Absolutely, I thought they played their best game of the season. 524 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:31.440 And I say that it's only three games in, but 525 00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:34.960 of the three games that those two guys really did 526 00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:38.960 an excellent job this particular game. And not only from 527 00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:43.079 a production standpoint, but their leadership is incredible. Those two 528 00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:48.160 guys are vocal. They have an infectious type of leadership 529 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:51.559 that wears that rubs off on everybody else. And it's 530 00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:53.440 not only in games, it's a practice as well, in 531 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:55.960 the weight room, everything they do. Those guys coming to 532 00:25:56.039 --> 00:26:01.160 the facility with a great attitude, their upbeat and uh, 533 00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.079 like I said, they're exactly the kind of guys you 534 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:04.359 want to playing for. 535 00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:09.680 Kyle, What have you seen on tape from Oklahoma State's 536 00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:11.759 run game? You know, Ollie Gordon is one of the 537 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:14.200 best running backs in the nation. How do you think 538 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:16.119 you guys are gonna have to defend them heading into 539 00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:17.079 this week and so forth. 540 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:20.039 Yeah, we're gonna have to, uh be good tacklers. He's 541 00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:21.759 He's a guy that breaks a lot of tackles. He's 542 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:23.599 a big back, you know, it's over six feet and 543 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.599 over two hundred twenty pounds and and just wears you out. 544 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:28.960 I mean he's a he's kind of a bully back there, 545 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:33.839 and uh that's his style and and uh very rarely 546 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.920 is the first guy gonna gonna stop his stop his charge. 547 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:40.000 But but it's gonna be a have to be a 548 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:42.599 concerted effort by the whole front seven to to uh 549 00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:46.119 gang tackle and and wrap up, in which we didn't 550 00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:47.680 do a good job of early in the game this 551 00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:50.000 past weekend, as we said, so we gotta we. 552 00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:52.000 Gotta do uh a better job of that. 553 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:55.599 But but uh, he's uh got all our respect and 554 00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:59.759 uh all our attention, and he's a guy that, uh, 555 00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:02.200 you know, he's one of the premier backs in the country. 556 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:03.319 I don't know what more he can say. 557 00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.279 Coach a couple of new faces on the defense side 558 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:10.079 of the ball, Jonathan Hall Rabbit Evans. What did you 559 00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:12.039 see from them in their first action this season? 560 00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:14.440 Some good stuff, especially from John All thought he made 561 00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:15.319 a bunch of plays. 562 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:16.319 I think he had. 563 00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:18.799 Thirty six snaps if I remember correctly the great sheets 564 00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:23.559 that we do every week, and really was productive. He's 565 00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:25.960 a very sure tackler. He's a guy that once he 566 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:27.759 gets his hands on you, hits over. I mean, he 567 00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:31.960 can tackle as good as as anybody. We got rabbit, 568 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:35.039 some hot and some cold. He made some nice plays, 569 00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:38.440 a few assignment errs. He's he's still learning. He did 570 00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:41.279 not get here till late in the summer, and so 571 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:46.000 kind of like Coach love MC's offense, Coach Scaley's defense 572 00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:49.039 is pretty evolved and and there's a learning curve there, 573 00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.920 so so he's working hard to get up to speed, 574 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.279 but he's just still not quite as assignment sound as 575 00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:55.839 he needs to be. 576 00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:57.240 But the ability is there. 577 00:27:57.279 --> 00:27:59.480 He's got a lot of ability and and very proud 578 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.119 of Camp Calhoun. We haven't talked about him and he 579 00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:05.240 he stepped in and and gave us some uh, very 580 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:07.799 good play on Saturday. He had that one nice interception 581 00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:12.079 and some other really good uh coverage reps. 582 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:13.319 So he's that that's. 583 00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:16.519 Huge for us to see him play like he did, 584 00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:18.240 and it just gives us that much more depth and 585 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:20.319 one more guy that we can we can go to 586 00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:21.119 in the secondary. 587 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:24.559 Karan Reid seems to be a calming force and kind 588 00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:26.839 of a communicator on that defensive side. When he's not there, 589 00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:29.119 how does your defense change and kind of what are 590 00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:31.200 you looking for if you know, for guys to step 591 00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:33.079 up or what what kind of happens with Tha's up there. 592 00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:35.000 Yeah, Well, first of all, has immediate replacement is the 593 00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:35.400 only foe. 594 00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:35.640 Two. 595 00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:38.079 He's the one that has taken the the reps that 596 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.920 uh Karny, you know, by missing Coarny, and he's the 597 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:41.799 guy that's filled in. 598 00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:43.680 But uh John o'hall. 599 00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:45.960 Is gonna be in that role as well and start 600 00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:49.039 to get uh more reps. Uh A lot more falls 601 00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:51.279 onto landerd Barton when Karnie's not in there to run 602 00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:52.880 the show in the front and make sure that guys 603 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.680 are lined up correctly and and h where they're supposed 604 00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:57.440 to be, and that we put a lot of the 605 00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:00.480 onus of that uh the front onlie. It's on the 606 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:03.160 linebackers to get those guys straight and you know, based 607 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:05.799 on formation and communicate uh as far as where they 608 00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:08.200 need to be. So so Landon Martin's got probably the 609 00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.799 biggest job when Current's not in there because it really 610 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.759 falls on to him. 611 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.160 Kind of tiggybacking off of that, do you think not 612 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:20.640 having corne out on the field last week sort of 613 00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.720 impacted how your run defense operated and so forth. 614 00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:26.160 Anytime you lose a good football player, there's you know, 615 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:32.240 there's uh some uh diminished results. And and not that 616 00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:34.440 the guys that played for him didn't do a good job, 617 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:37.119 cause they did. But if it didn't matter who's out there, 618 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:39.960 you know, it wouldn't matter. But it does matter. I mean, 619 00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.000 you put your best guys out there for a reason. 620 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.400 And so he's a he's a team leader. He's a 621 00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:48.799 he's a very experienced, very fundamentally and technique sound linebacker 622 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:53.240 that does everything right and uh seldom, if ever makes 623 00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.039 a mental mistake. So he and he's one of our captains. 624 00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:58.599 I mean, you know, so he's he definitely provides a 625 00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:00.559 lot and brings a lot to the table. And you 626 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:02.839 do miss those guys when are not there. But that 627 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.319 being said, it's part of the game. So it's next 628 00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:09.400 man at mentality, as it always is, and next guy's 629 00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:12.319 got to step up as well as a supporting cast. 630 00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:15.119 We talked about that last week, that handling university not 631 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:17.680 only comes from your oppoland, but from within when you're 632 00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.359 dealing with injuries and things that go awry. 633 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.759 Coach Gundy and yourself got your jobs within a few 634 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:27.720 weeks of each other back in two thousand and five. 635 00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:30.680 Can you compare contrast? Maybe look at some parallels that 636 00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.680 allow you guys to have the same job for so long. 637 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:34.880 That's a good question. 638 00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:38.920 I don't really because, you know, being in the Pac 639 00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:42.720 twelve and obviously the Mountain West before that, completely separate 640 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:44.119 from the Big twelve. We didn't have a lot of 641 00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:46.279 crossover games with the Big twelve, just a few here 642 00:30:46.319 --> 00:30:51.119 and there, But certainly have been aware of his success. 643 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:54.319 I mean, he's done a terrific job, and that's ultimately 644 00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:55.920 the bottom line. If you're not successful, you're not going 645 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:58.079 to be in a job for very long. And so 646 00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:01.720 he's done a good job of winning and being consistent 647 00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:03.799 and seems to be every year. 648 00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:06.039 I mean every year there there there. 649 00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:08.319 You know what you're gonna get from them, and they 650 00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:12.440 they're guys, play hard, and they're well coached, and the 651 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:13.400 personnel is good. 652 00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.559 Coach, we know you're a big day game type guy. 653 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:21.839 But the Arizona game was announced eight fifteen PM. Fans 654 00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.240 love it. What makes that atmosphere so special? 655 00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:25.200 I don't know, but it is. 656 00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:27.880 Uh, it is kind of magical at rice cycles and 657 00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:31.839 night games and and I didn't know that you just 658 00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:35.799 I just realized that Jordani's failed to tell me that. 659 00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:37.039 But that's okay. 660 00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:41.839 I I'll never complain about kickoff times, but preferences sooner 661 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:42.200 the better. 662 00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:44.240 I'd rather play at four in the morning if we 663 00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:45.160 could just get them go. 664 00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.160 But but I just hate waiting around for you know, 665 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:49.599 all day on Saturday for games. 666 00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:52.240 But but it doesn't really matter what I like or 667 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:52.799 don't like it. 668 00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:58.680 But Rice cycles back to your question is I don't 669 00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:01.319 know other than the it just seems to be electric 670 00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.640 at night. And I don't have a great answer for it. 671 00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:09.599 But it sure is an advantage for us, a definite advantage. 672 00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:13.519 All right, there you go. Coach went addressing the media 673 00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:18.119 earlier today and on this show every afternoon, well every 674 00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:21.400 Monday afternoon. We I guess we could replay Kyle every afternoon, 675 00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:23.519 but we usually do it on on Mondays. If you 676 00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:26.160 missed any of it, log on ESPN seven hundred sports 677 00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:29.319 dot com. All right, joining me now live in studio, 678 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:34.079 doctor Angela Peterson from Lifestyle Men's Health Brand, new brand. 679 00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:37.200 Doctor Peterson tell listeners about the new brand, this new project. 680 00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:38.799 It's a new rebranding. 681 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:42.720 Well, I started a clinic in Scottsdale with some other partners. 682 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:44.920 And you know, when you do a good thing, you 683 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.359 get noticed and so that business. 684 00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:47.680 Is going well. 685 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:52.200 And we are going to bring Lifestyle to Utah and. 686 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.799 It's going well because you get results. That's that's how 687 00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:57.759 life works. That's great and let's bring on Ken now 688 00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:00.640 Lifestyle Men's South. 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So we see forty year olds, 715 00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:29.559 fifty year olds, seventy year olds, sixty year olds, eighty 716 00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:33.079 year olds like it really, you know doesn't matter, but 717 00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:37.400 as we age, it's definitely something that you know can decline. 718 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:39.480 All right, what's the special offer you have for our 719 00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:40.679 listeners who call you today? 720 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:44.840 So for new clients here in Utah to Lifestyle Men's Health, 721 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:47.599 we are going to be offering our signature ED treatment 722 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:48.679 at fifty percent off. 723 00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.039 All right, there you go, but you got a call today, 724 00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:54.280 Like I said, for me, it's been the testosterone therapy 725 00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:57.760 and the peptides. I would definitely recommend giving those a tribe, 726 00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:01.000 but called doctor Peterson. Ask quite, She'll walk you through 727 00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:03.440 the whole thing at three eight, five, four, five eight 728 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.519 nine two zero zero three. That's three eight five, four, 729 00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:09.440 five eight nine two zero three three eight five four 730 00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.880 five eight nine two zero three. Now to bring you 731 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:16.079 our big twelve Power rankings coming up in just a 732 00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:16.519 little bit. 733 00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:17.320 Do it. 734 00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.800 Every Monday on the show, we will review our Friday 735 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:22.760 picks that we gave you before we said good night? 736 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:26.880 Did okay? This week? Weren't as last week? We're five 737 00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.760 and one. This week we're three and two, so not bad, 738 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.599 not great, not bad. So we're gonna do that. Coming 739 00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:34.480 up in just a little bit, we'll bring in Tony 740 00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.400 Parks live in studio. But let's bring in our guy. 741 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:41.039 Josh Furlong covers the the utes for Ksel. Josh, Happy Monday, man, 742 00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:41.519 how are we doing? 743 00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:44.280 Happy Monday? Good to be here? How are you? 744 00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:47.159 I'm good? I appreciate your time. So what questions did 745 00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:50.599 Isaac Wilson answer in your opinion? Josh on Saturday? 746 00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.639 I think it's, you know, if he's capable of being 747 00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:57.920 able to back up Cam rising right. I don't know 748 00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:01.039 that there's some er shattering question about what this projects 749 00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:03.840 for his future, but I think, you know, it showed 750 00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:06.159 what he's able to do and that he's able to 751 00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:08.880 actually lead the offense in a way that it gives 752 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:12.159 them confidence. So I think, by and large, that's probably 753 00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.760 the biggest question that was answered. You know, it had 754 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:19.119 its mistakes, it wasn't perfect, but I think it showed 755 00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:21.519 that he's able to do it, and especially in a 756 00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.239 way where you have to come from behind and kind 757 00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:25.960 of help your team rally. So I think it was 758 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.400 all good things for him and in his progression as 759 00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:28.880 a freshman. 760 00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:31.880 QB tell us what I mean by all accounts. I 761 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:34.800 know they don't update injury situations, but it does feel 762 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:38.639 like everyone is expecting Cameron to be back or okay State. 763 00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.159 Is that your understanding, Josh. 764 00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:43.639 Yeah, that's the understanding. I mean, there's always things that 765 00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:45.119 could happen in the course of the week, but the 766 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:48.800 guess is that Cam will be able to go, and 767 00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.360 that this was an opportunity for Isaac to get the 768 00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.840 start but also to heal up Cam. And now it 769 00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:57.719 gets into conference plane, we're back to having the QB 770 00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:01.480 one back on the sidelines and the center and everything 771 00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:02.719 should be okay. 772 00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:05.320 So what and coach Wit talked about this during his 773 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.519 media talked about it after the game. In your opinion, 774 00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:10.440 what was the luck you go up, You get to 775 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:12.760 win without your starting quarterback, without one of your best 776 00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:16.519 defensive players in Karin Reid? All good, all good, It's 777 00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:19.239 all good. You got to win, that's fine. But Kyle 778 00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:21.840 talked about the issues, and certainly this was not a 779 00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:25.639 super clean performance. Credit coach driveling in Utah State for 780 00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:28.159 playing hard and at some point giving a lot of 781 00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.840 you fans some anxiety. What were the biggest holes, Josh 782 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:33.239 in your opinion for Utah's win against Utah State. 783 00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.639 To me, it has to be the run blocking game, right, 784 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:41.360 Like I mean, the the Utah's defense didn't do a 785 00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:44.159 great job of filling those holes at times and being 786 00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:47.440 able to stop the run. Granted, Utah State has a 787 00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:49.320 phenomenal running back that was able to make a lot 788 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:51.440 of plays and really expose some of the things that 789 00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:55.199 Utah was experiencing. Yeah, some of that, you know, like 790 00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:58.360 Kyle said, was they're trying to mix up their defense 791 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:01.480 and trying to do something so that Bryson didn't have 792 00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.199 an understanding of what was going on, But I think 793 00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:06.880 there's still real world things that you have to look at, right, Like, 794 00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.320 you have to be able to contain better. They've got 795 00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:11.000 to be able to crash the line better and being 796 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:13.920 able to get those havoc plays. And there were absolutely 797 00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:17.880 times where Utah was eating up that backfield and doing well, 798 00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:21.119 but then they're exposing this Elton lane for Bryson or 799 00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:23.639 one of the running backs or somebody else to get there, 800 00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:27.880 and so that's a big issue. Outside of that, I 801 00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:29.920 think it's the secondary. I think it's, you know, in 802 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:33.280 an inexperienced group that there still needs to be some 803 00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:36.559 better communication between them all. There were a few plays 804 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:38.960 where guys were just kind of left on an island 805 00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:41.280 and didn't really understand what they were supposed to do 806 00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:44.119 and then they got beat. And so I think that's 807 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:47.199 going to come. But if that communication doesn't get there, 808 00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:49.119 I think that that is a world to hurt for Utah, 809 00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:53.800 Right Like I think the step off front will sell, 810 00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:56.079 you know, work its way out and everything will be there, 811 00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:58.599 But that secondary is really kind of my concern, and 812 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.360 I would say, you know, you want to see a 813 00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:03.559 little bit more of these guys being able to go 814 00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.719 toe to toe, but Utah State has some phenomenal receivers 815 00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:08.559 and did a good job. But it's just, you know, 816 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:10.639 you want to be able to have those things under 817 00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:12.920 wraps a little bit before you get into conference play. 818 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.519 But it's just going to be a work in progress, 819 00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:18.800 and it's always going to be about needing more reps 820 00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:21.000 and needing more film and being able to be out there. 821 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:22.960 But I think you're seeing some good things from them. 822 00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:24.119 It's just going to take some time. 823 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:28.360 So I referenced Karente and I was on the sideline 824 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:31.599 when he limped off. You know, a couple of weeks back. 825 00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:33.280 I did not know he was going to miss time. 826 00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:36.119 But do you have an update on Karena read leading 827 00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:40.239 into Okay State and attendant to it, any other injuries 828 00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.199 that we should be aware of, or how healthy is 829 00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:44.199 Utah coming in Saturday? 830 00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.280 By and large, Utah is mostly healthy, but there's a 831 00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:51.880 few lingering things like the Karni stuff. You know, I 832 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:56.000 think he's he's questionable for this weekend. I think just 833 00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:58.840 the nature of his injury is tough to be able 834 00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.400 to get in there. But you know they're going to 835 00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:03.119 work really hard to try to get him back because 836 00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:05.559 he is that vocal leader of that defense, and so 837 00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.559 if you have him out that really impacts it beyond him. 838 00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:12.000 Connor o' toole kind of got injured in the game. 839 00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:13.920 I don't know his status yet. I haven't been able 840 00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:17.599 to hear anything on him, but if he's not available, 841 00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:20.320 that is a bit concerning. Utah does have the talent 842 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:21.960 and the depths to be able to absorb that a 843 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:25.639 little bit more than maybe linebacker. But anytime you're losing 844 00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:27.800 any of those elite you know, pass rushers, that that 845 00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.000 hurts your ability to be able to crash the line, 846 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:33.239 and especially against a veteran offensive line like Oklahoma State, 847 00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:35.639 you need those guys to be able to be there. 848 00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:39.519 But you know, all in all, Utah is healthy. It's 849 00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:41.480 just you know, a little nick and things that are 850 00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:43.159 going to hold out some guys and they may not 851 00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:45.519 have everybody available. But I think KARENI is probably the 852 00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:49.039 guy that you're praying gets back sooner than later, just 853 00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:50.840 because of what he does for that defense. Of the 854 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:52.960 communication aspects that he brings. 855 00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:56.519 Have you been able to so obviously. And it's different 856 00:40:56.559 --> 00:40:59.159 because Cameron Rising and brand Keith eve been playing together 857 00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.000 for years and so there's going to be a comfortability 858 00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:04.519 factor there, and we're going to see Cameron's eyes go 859 00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:07.119 towards brand quite a bit. Have you been able to 860 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:10.840 in your time watching Isaac play decide for who his 861 00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:13.760 safety net is, who his favorite target is, the weapon 862 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.159 who he seems to have the best chemistry with as 863 00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:16.760 of right now. 864 00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:20.320 Oh, that's a good question. I don't know that he's 865 00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:24.079 necessarily had a favorite target. He's spread it out a 866 00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:26.920 little bit. Brand is still probably the safety net there 867 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:29.920 just because of what he does, and I think Utah 868 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:33.840 utilizes him in that way where they give him an 869 00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:36.480 easy pass to be able to get out of right. 870 00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:39.440 Like there was a play on Saturday where Brandt rolled 871 00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:41.800 out and it was out in the flats and able 872 00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:45.960 to be kind of that easy pass, and Isaac's took 873 00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:49.159 a better shot. But I think, you know, he still 874 00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:52.079 hasn't found that guy that I think he trusts fool, 875 00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:53.639 not that he doesn't trust, but I don't think he 876 00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:56.599 has that you know, connection that Cam and Brandt have. 877 00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.119 But if there is another one that I would say 878 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.480 maybe Caleb Loaner. He feels really comfortable with him in 879 00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:05.199 the end zone. Obviously, that's two touchdowns that the two 880 00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.719 have probably a really easy guy to get the ball to, 881 00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:11.039 especially since the guy's like a foot and a half 882 00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:14.960 taller than everybody when he jumps up. So I think 883 00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:17.159 that's probably going to continue to be a main connection, 884 00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:21.440 and especially if Loner gets more into this offense, like 885 00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.039 Kyle Woodingham says he's going to, I feel like that 886 00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:26.440 could be kind of his safety net, especially when things 887 00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:26.920 go wrong. 888 00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.599 I think you asked Coach Waitt the question about Caleb's 889 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:32.760 I want to ask you kind of the same question 890 00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:37.599 because I am really fascinated with this story. Everyone else. 891 00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.079 I'm a basketball guy. I love football, I love basketball, 892 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:42.800 love college basketball. And you know, Caleb was a hell 893 00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.119 of an athlete when he was high school basketball player. 894 00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:48.840 Athleticism was never his issue as a basketball player. He's 895 00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:51.599 one of the elite athletes on every team he played 896 00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:57.559 for Utah BYU Baylor. Just strictly from an explosive athleticism standpoint, 897 00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:01.239 he's never fully, in my opinion, add the cultivated skill 898 00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:04.960 set to be anything other than a decent college player 899 00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.320 and maybe a European pro who knows. But now he's 900 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:10.159 leaned into this thing, and I got to give the 901 00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:12.599 kid credit. Man that's a hard thing to do. He's 902 00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.320 shown a lot of courage, shown a lot of bravery, 903 00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:18.039 and I'm sure coach witness staff saw a lot of 904 00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:21.960 potential in Caleb, hence given him the opportunity. But it's 905 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:25.000 looked really good. What do you think this can look like, Josh, 906 00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:26.000 when it's fully baked? 907 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:31.159 Honestly, like the way of ease that Caleb is doing this, 908 00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:34.320 it almost almost makes it seem like, you know, football 909 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.199 team should just be scouting some of these basketball players naturally, 910 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:39.440 you know, like it's it should just come this easy. 911 00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:42.039 I know it's not that easy, right, Like I understand 912 00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.400 conceptually this isn't an easy thing, but Caleb is making 913 00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:47.760 it in such a way that it does feel that way. 914 00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:50.639 And then you see him on the field and what 915 00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:53.400 kind of a playmaker he can be. You know, he's 916 00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:56.639 he's shifty, he's got versatility just because of how he's 917 00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:59.000 been able to play basketball and being able to move quickly. 918 00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:01.480 But he's big enough. But there's just not really much 919 00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:03.039 you can do to stop him unless you get a 920 00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:06.880 bigger body corner or some other you know guy on him. 921 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:12.039 But it becomes a great situation for Utah. Whereas if 922 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:14.760 he continues to progress, you know, I don't know how 923 00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.519 you stop somebody like a Caleb Bowner, right, Like he 924 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:20.400 probably went into college thinking that he's going to go 925 00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:23.000 play in the NBA or like you said, go overseas 926 00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:25.840 in Europe. This honestly could be a situation where he 927 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:27.920 could get NFL teams calling him and like, I don't 928 00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:29.760 want to get too crazy, and I don't want to 929 00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:32.480 like jump the shark, but I think if you can 930 00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:36.280 continue to see projections of where he's at versus where 931 00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:39.280 he was maybe even six months ago, there's a real 932 00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:42.800 optimistic side of this game where he can be an 933 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.159 NFL player. You can go in there and you can 934 00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:46.840 do these things that are going to be able to 935 00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:50.599 be dynamic and and help your teams win. You know, 936 00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.039 I still feel like we haven't We've only scratched the 937 00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:56.039 surface with Caleb. What he does in the passing game 938 00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:59.519 obviously is great because of his size, but I think 939 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:02.440 even in the field goal unit, right where he's able 940 00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:05.320 to just deflect passes or not passes the field goals, 941 00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:08.440 but also just kind of divert the trajectory of where 942 00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:11.079 these are going to go because of his wingspan, that 943 00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:15.920 alone is pretty phenomenal. So it's a fun storyline that 944 00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:18.400 I'm really intrigued to continue to watch because I think 945 00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:22.880 if he continues to show strides and progression, you're going 946 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:24.599 to see a lot more people wanting to go get 947 00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.599 basketball players to fill their tight end room and see 948 00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.719 what they can do to disrupt what traditional college football 949 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:31.199 has run. 950 00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:35.400 We've seen Jalen Glover in the past have great games 951 00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:39.280 against UCLA and a tough win against Colorado. In a 952 00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.960 tough win, I mean we're talking about touchdowns one hundred 953 00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:45.760 and seven yards against Colorado. Even two years ago the 954 00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.000 win up on the polue, he had twenty carries for 955 00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:51.960 seventy six in a touchdown. Is he the fifth running 956 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.920 back on this team? Any insight as to why Jalen 957 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:56.840 seems to have fallen out of favor in that running 958 00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:57.639 back room. 959 00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:02.320 I don't know if he's in the necessarily a spot right. 960 00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:07.440 I think it's more just kind of his attention to 961 00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:09.880 detail and wanting to be able to be fully engaged 962 00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:12.960 in the system. So, you know, I think there are 963 00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.280 aspects where he is getting passed up by guys that 964 00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:17.480 are willing to put in more of the work. But 965 00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:19.639 I think it just comes down to a guy that 966 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.519 needs to follow the system, do the things that Quinton 967 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:24.760 Ganther wants him to do, and if he does, I 968 00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:27.039 think he's still in that mix right in the top three. 969 00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.400 Early on that was the case. Kyle had talked about 970 00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:33.679 him being in that mix and wasn't giving any indication 971 00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:36.679 that he wasn't. Even when he talked about Dejon Stanley, 972 00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:38.599 it was kind of like he was kind of more 973 00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:40.480 of a gadget type player where he was going to 974 00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:44.519 come in in certain situations. But now you're seeing that change. 975 00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:47.239 To me, that just is more like Utah trying to 976 00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:49.119 get him to wake up and trying to do the 977 00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:50.840 things that he needs to do to see the field, 978 00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:53.199 and if he's not going to do it, it's not 979 00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:56.079 going to work. One of the interesting things is, you know, 980 00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.400 you could see on Saturday that he wanted to leave 981 00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:03.559 the field pretty quickly and there was you know, someone 982 00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:07.480 on on the staff that you know, kind of crolled 983 00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:08.960 him and brought him in with the rest of the 984 00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.800 team to celebrate the win. But it's not you know, 985 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.360 this is just an observed observation. It's it's not a 986 00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:16.039 good situation for him, right now, you know, and I 987 00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.239 think there's a lot of conversations they're going to have 988 00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:20.559 to be had, and if he wants to stay with Utah, 989 00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:22.760 you know, things are going to have to change. I 990 00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.800 don't know fully to the extent of what that is, 991 00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:28.559 but I think it's a situation where Clinton Ganther and 992 00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:30.480 Kyle Whittingham are going to want to see a lot 993 00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:32.280 more improvement for him to ever see the field. 994 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:34.840 Yeah, do you feel like we've landed in a spot 995 00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.000 where it's going to be mackay and Mike kind of 996 00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.880 one two? And how strong is that hold on the 997 00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:42.639 number one job from McKay Bernard Because there's a lot 998 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:44.320 to like about the way Mike runs and you can 999 00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:46.039 tell Kyle likes and what he's asked about him. But 1000 00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:49.280 of course Makai is getting more carries and he's playing well. 1001 00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:51.840 So you think we've kind of landed on the running 1002 00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:54.599 back solution. It's kind of played itself out where it 1003 00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:57.039 will be McKai Bernard and Mike Mitchell kind of one two. 1004 00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:00.960 It's probably as close as you're to get it this year. 1005 00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:03.920 I think mackay has done a good job of being 1006 00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:08.159 able to establish himself as that lead guy. I don't 1007 00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:10.239 know that he's firmly established it in the way that 1008 00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:14.239 Mike couldn't surpass him. I think the biggest issue there 1009 00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:17.480 is Mike is injured. You know, he's he's got a 1010 00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:19.960 hobbling injury with his ankle that it is kind of 1011 00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:21.800 similar to what you saw at ja Quindin last year, 1012 00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:23.440 where you're going to get him a few times out 1013 00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:24.800 on the field and then he's going to have to 1014 00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:27.960 be you know, taped up again. I think that's what's 1015 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:32.480 limiting Mike. You know, there's still aspects of Mitchell's game 1016 00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:33.840 that you want to be able to see him have 1017 00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:36.559 a better vision, you know, hit the holes a little differently, 1018 00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.559 not just go fully into contact. But I think you're 1019 00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:45.280 seeing a lot of optimism on in his game that 1020 00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:48.360 that leads me to think that he could surpass Mackay. 1021 00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:50.440 I just it just isn't. I'm going to come down 1022 00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:53.719 to help. But for Mackay's standpoint, I mean, I think 1023 00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:56.880 he's done everything that he needs to. I think, you know, 1024 00:48:56.920 --> 00:48:58.800 he's he is what he is, and there's things that 1025 00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:02.360 he still needs to learn and same type of vision situations, 1026 00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:04.800 but he's finding ways to be able to be in 1027 00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:06.840 an impact player in the game, and that's exactly what 1028 00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:08.840 Utah needs, right They need somebody that's going to go 1029 00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:11.039 in there. They're going to fight for yards, They're gonna 1030 00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:13.000 do whatever they need to to be able to move 1031 00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:15.840 the ball. And that guy's micout and as long as 1032 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.119 you have him continually fighting and continually working hard, I 1033 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.960 don't know that it mattered if he's the established RB one. 1034 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.239 I think they want somebody to be there, But I 1035 00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.159 think it's a good thing to be able to have, 1036 00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:28.559 you know, guys that they can mix and match, and 1037 00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:30.880 I think those two compliment each other pretty well. 1038 00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:33.920 All right, Josh, As I've referenced to you before, I 1039 00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.719 am a former Twitter addict in recovery, so I do 1040 00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:39.559 not watch games and I'm not connected to my phone 1041 00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:41.039 the way I used to be. I do not live 1042 00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:42.679 on the internet in a way that I used to be. 1043 00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:45.719 So I need to know from somebody who tweets the 1044 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:47.880 way you do and has the poults of youth fans 1045 00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:51.360 the way you do. When Utah State went up fourteen 1046 00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:55.119 three and the offense for Utah wasn't looking great, what 1047 00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:59.079 was the panic meter like online? Were folks legitimately concerned 1048 00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:01.679 or did it feel like most youth fans understood, like, hey, 1049 00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:03.760 give it some time, it'll kind of even its way out. 1050 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:05.440 No. 1051 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:07.960 I think there was a legit panic, right. I think 1052 00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:11.519 there was a lot of people thinking that this was over. 1053 00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:14.320 You know, Utah was going to lose, especially with the 1054 00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:16.599 way that Utah's offense wasn't able to move the ball 1055 00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:19.159 and how well Bryson Barnes was able to move utah 1056 00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.199 States offense. You know, this guy was falling in a 1057 00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.199 large part, and that tends to happen sometimes in games. 1058 00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:30.239 But I think it just felt really dangerous of what 1059 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.440 Utah was doing. But I think by and large, by 1060 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.119 the end of the game, fans were pretty happy with 1061 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:39.639 what they saw. You saw in Isaac Wilson that really 1062 00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:42.960 settled in, understood what it took to be able to 1063 00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.440 get over the edge. And in that second half especially, 1064 00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:47.559 he kind of he reverted back to looking like he 1065 00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.480 was in high school in the sense that he was comfortable. 1066 00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:52.920 He knew he could be on the field with those guys, 1067 00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:56.719 he knew he could beat those guys. And I think 1068 00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:59.880 you leave that game optimistic in a fan, knowing that 1069 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:02.159 there's still some things that Utah has to correct, right. 1070 00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:04.960 I think that was the Twitter fan based kind of 1071 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:08.920 looking at it. But I think it's it's always entertaining 1072 00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:11.840 to kind of watch how fans overreact or or kind 1073 00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:14.239 of sense these games. But you know, you get it. 1074 00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:16.840 That game didn't start out well. Honestly, if not for 1075 00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.360 that Smith Snowden interception, which was remarkable by the way, 1076 00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:21.880 he very well could have been twenty one three And 1077 00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:23.639 does Utah have what it takes to get back into 1078 00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:28.360 that one so interesting situation, but it's definitely reacting in 1079 00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:30.840 life form to watch that on Twitter. 1080 00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:32.519 And I definitely get it, by the way. I mean, 1081 00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:34.960 I said prior to the game, this one felt just 1082 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:37.480 a little tricky. I didn't think I picked them to win, 1083 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:39.960 but not cover, which is what happened. They you know, 1084 00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:43.440 the line was eighteen. They won by seventeen. But Josh, 1085 00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:45.320 I mean, ultimately, you know the deal. You've been covering 1086 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:47.599 this for a while in state game. You know a 1087 00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.079 lot of those Utah staid players, and they deserve credit. 1088 00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:50.199 Man. 1089 00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:52.000 They came out and played well. They punched Utah in 1090 00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.039 the mouth. You're without QB one, You're without a very 1091 00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:58.480 underrated piece of your defense in Karred like that did 1092 00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:02.159 have Josh some of the yellows of an upset alert 1093 00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:05.239 watch situation every weekend in college football, tell me gets 1094 00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:07.199 got And you know, for a minute, it did feel 1095 00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:07.880 a little bit dicey. 1096 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:11.440 I'm not gonna lie absolutely. I mean, Utes State has 1097 00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:13.400 nothing to lose. I mean, you go into that game 1098 00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:16.199 after a blowout loss to USC. You know it's not 1099 00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:18.639 conference plans, but there's not really anything on the line 1100 00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:21.400 in terms of that. But you've got an opportunity to 1101 00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:23.880 upset a team that is expected to be in the playoffs. 1102 00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:25.159 So of course you're going to go out there and 1103 00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:29.159 you're going to play with this reckless abandon in some respects, right, 1104 00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:30.719 You're going to go out there and you're going to 1105 00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:33.159 be the team that if you overpursue, so be it. 1106 00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:35.920 At least you tried. That's exactly how it felt, right. 1107 00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:38.920 Utes State put everything out at the very beginning. They 1108 00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:42.119 were crashing the line, they were the most physical. They 1109 00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.480 absolutely made Utah kind of have to reset and figure 1110 00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:47.719 out what they were needing to do, and it shows 1111 00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:50.039 that they can be a good team. But this is 1112 00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:52.760 a situation where Utah it kind of shows that if 1113 00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:56.960 they're not always constantly focusing on what game they're they're 1114 00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:59.159 currently in. There's a chance that they're not going to 1115 00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:02.400 have those those post season opportunities. Right Being the team 1116 00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:06.119 at the top of the perspective Big twelve, you're gonna 1117 00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:08.360 get everybody's best. And that doesn't mean it's not just 1118 00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:10.519 Utah State. It's gonna be Oklahoma State, it's gonna Arizona, 1119 00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:12.679 it's going to be all these teams, and so you 1120 00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:15.519 can't have a day off. I don't think Utah was 1121 00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:17.840 trying for a day off by any means, but I 1122 00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:19.760 do think that they got a little casual in what 1123 00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:22.079 they thought they could do based on that USC game. 1124 00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:25.199 With you, Utah State, they kind of got into it 1125 00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:26.960 and said, we're going to roll over these guys. We're 1126 00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:29.639 gonna be okay, we don't even need Cam for this game. 1127 00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:32.159 We're gonna go with Isaac and its first start. Those 1128 00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:34.119 types of things start creeping in and it becomes a 1129 00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:37.320 very dangerous game, and Utah State absolutely took advantage of it, 1130 00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:41.519 and there's opportunities there that they had that Honestly, Utah 1131 00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:43.320 may have been in a much closer game if not 1132 00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:47.800 for maybe a few mispasses or interceptions. So fun game. 1133 00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:50.199 But yeah, I mean Utah has to learn from that 1134 00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:52.519 moment and address that as they move forward this season. 1135 00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:54.679 All right, Josh, last thing and I'll set you loose. 1136 00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:56.960 It's a big week, man, It's Okay State week. We've 1137 00:53:56.960 --> 00:53:59.840 been circling this game for a while now. The line 1138 00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:03.119 opened as Okay State as a slight favorite, is moved 1139 00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:05.559 all the way towards the Utes. As of now, they're 1140 00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:08.599 a one point five point favorite. Utah State was able 1141 00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:10.480 to get some yards on the ground, and that's what 1142 00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:12.639 Mike Gunny wants to do. They have the best running 1143 00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:14.679 back in the country, won the Doak Walker a year ago, 1144 00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:17.719 and Olie Gordon, who's off to a fine start, but 1145 00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:21.039 he's not dominated. He's averaging three point five carry's got 1146 00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:23.880 four touchdowns, two hundred and sixteen yards on sixty two carries. 1147 00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:26.320 That's not gonna be an easy place to play. Never 1148 00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:28.760 been a still water maybe one day, not necessarily on 1149 00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:30.920 the bucket list, but give us a little preview for 1150 00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:33.599 Utah Okay State coming up on Saturday. 1151 00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:37.639 Yeah, this is for all intents and purposes, This is 1152 00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:40.000 for the Big twelve title, right, This is probably Utah's 1153 00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:43.360 toughest game this season, at least where they're at right now. 1154 00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:46.320 And as we see these teams and so Utah's gonna 1155 00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:49.239 have to go into this game ready. Well, Oli Gordon 1156 00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:51.239 obviously is going to be their biggest concern. They're going 1157 00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:52.679 to have to look at that and make sure that 1158 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:56.119 they can contain him. I always caution people to look 1159 00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:59.199 at the first few games and maybe he's not going 1160 00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.440 off for the most you know, yards or whatever. He's 1161 00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:04.360 going to be motivated for this game, right he wants 1162 00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:05.960 to be able to showcase. And not that he hasn't 1163 00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:09.320 been motivated for the others, but this being a conference game, 1164 00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:11.400 he sees that he has to be better. This is 1165 00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:13.119 going to be a tough game for Utah and if 1166 00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:15.079 they have any of those issues that they had against 1167 00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:18.480 Utah State, this could be a very long day. Outside 1168 00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:21.199 of that, you have a quarterback that has been pretty solid. 1169 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:24.199 You know, he's in my opinion, he's kind of like 1170 00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:26.440 a Bryson Barnes. He can beat you, but he also 1171 00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:29.400 doesn't have the highest upside. He's had a great year, 1172 00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:32.239 but he's not a mobile So really, to me, it 1173 00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:34.599 comes down to is if you can contain Ali Gordon. 1174 00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:36.760 I think Utah has a good shot of being able 1175 00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.639 to do this. Try to get the momentum early. Don't 1176 00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:42.000 let that crowd into the game, because they will fight back. 1177 00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:44.119 They're good. Mike Gundy knows what he's doing, you know, 1178 00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:46.920 obviously he's been in that position forever and knows what 1179 00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:49.519 it takes to win. So you really kind of have 1180 00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:51.800 to start that game hot. You've got to dictate it. 1181 00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:54.119 You've got to hope that if it is Cam Rising, 1182 00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:56.159 that he starts out really well and that they can 1183 00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:58.559 move that offense, because if other not, you're going to 1184 00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:00.840 have a team that's going to fight back and really 1185 00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:03.519 battle it back and make you pay if you're not 1186 00:56:03.559 --> 00:56:05.880 on your best game. So it should be a fun game. 1187 00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:07.920 I'm excited for it. Still Water seems like it's a 1188 00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.880 great college town and really curious to see how these 1189 00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:13.239 two teams battle it out and what could honestly be 1190 00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:15.239 kind of like the Big twelve title game. 1191 00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:17.760 All right, Josh, thanks for the time, man, have a 1192 00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:19.320 great week and we'll catch up soon. 1193 00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:20.840 Sounds great. 1194 00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:26.960 It's Monday afternoon after another exciting college football weekend. Settle 1195 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:29.199 in as Spence gives you this week's edition of the 1196 00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:32.079 Big twelve Power Rankings brought to you by the Murdock 1197 00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:34.360 Auto Group and Genesis of Lindon. 1198 00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:41.159 All Right, Big twelve Power Ranking Style. We do it 1199 00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:44.440 every single Monday on the show. Happy Monday to you. 1200 00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:46.599 Hope you out a great weekend. Little Monday Night football 1201 00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:49.119 tonight to wrap up the weekend in pro football. You 1202 00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:51.960 can hear the game on this radio station. It's going 1203 00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:55.079 to be the Eagles taking on the Falcons. AJ Brown 1204 00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:58.880 is out with a hamstring injury. So some Monday Night football. First, 1205 00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:01.880 just a quick review of our picks. We went five 1206 00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:06.440 and one last week. We went I checked during the break. 1207 00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:09.039 We actually went three and three this week, so we 1208 00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:11.480 are currently eight and four, which isn't bad. All right, now, 1209 00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:14.480 remember the Roger Federer lesson right, what did we what 1210 00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:18.440 did we learn from? Roger Feeder gave a commencement speaks recently. 1211 00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:21.119 He won like fifty two percent of his points throughout 1212 00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:22.639 the course of his career. A lot of people think 1213 00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:25.440 he's the greatest tennis player of all time. Slow burn, kids, 1214 00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:28.159 That's all we're trying to do. So we went three 1215 00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.480 and three. We picked the Utah game correctly, said the 1216 00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:33.679 Utes would win but not cover. The line was eighteen. 1217 00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:36.679 They won by seventeen. We gave you Oregon over Oregon 1218 00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:40.519 State in the Civil War? Are we allowed to call that? Is? 1219 00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:43.800 Is that still the Civil war? We it is? We're 1220 00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:44.480 allowed to say. 1221 00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:45.079 That civil war? 1222 00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:45.760 Holy war? 1223 00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:46.119 All right? 1224 00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:48.480 Just lean it. Well, I don't know. I mean, we're 1225 00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:51.000 still tear down statues. I lost track. What's like, what's 1226 00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:54.960 the deal depends on the statue? Okay, no argument there. 1227 00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:59.840 So we lost Colorado. I thought I thought Colorado States 1228 00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:02.760 give them more of a battle. They did not. And 1229 00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:06.360 then Oklahoma barely covered against Tulane. We picked Oklahoma to win, 1230 00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:08.280 but Tulane to cover. So that went the other way. 1231 00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:12.000 So we got Utah Oregon and BYU correct, we got 1232 00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:16.360 Colorado Tulane and the other one we picked was Missouri 1233 00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:18.920 to win, but they did not cover. I thought they 1234 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:21.760 would over Bill Bryan and Boston College. So three and 1235 00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.679 three stuff to win money gambling on sports. That's why 1236 00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:27.880 I say, don't do it almost every day on the show. 1237 00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:32.599 All right, Porter, I cheated. I listed seven teams. Seven teams. 1238 00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:36.440 There's seven teams undefeated. Oh really, so we got it? Okay, 1239 00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:38.800 So I went I went, so all right, I'm glad. 1240 00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:41.400 I'm glad you did too. So I'll give you the floor. 1241 00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:43.800 You can go first. You can start at seven and 1242 00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:45.440 go to one, and then I'll give you mine. 1243 00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:50.159 Well at seven. And I have them in there because 1244 00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:53.079 they have not lost a game and they have a chance, 1245 00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:56.519 let's be cleared this weekend to jump a lot higher 1246 00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:59.840 than seven. It is the BYU Cougars. Now, you know, 1247 00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:04.000 it hasn't been anything ultra impressive. They're working through some 1248 00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:07.519 quarterback issues, but the defense has been good. They've been, 1249 00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:10.480 you know, leaning on some of their best players, and 1250 00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:14.719 Kloni's coached his tailoff. I think in the in the 1251 00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:18.159 first three games they needed to be cleaned through non 1252 00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:21.840 conference in order to kind of have this, uh, this 1253 00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:25.199 kind of season on the table. But still nothing all 1254 00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:28.000 that impressive to to to bump them up in the ranking. 1255 00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:30.960 So they're at number seven. I got ASU at number six, 1256 00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:33.440 and the thing with ASU is I like a bunch 1257 00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:35.039 of the players that are on their roster, but just 1258 00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:38.159 seems messy down there. It doesn't seem real clean. And 1259 00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:41.679 I've got them at six the top five, which is 1260 00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:45.440 of course what we are looking at this year. Iowa 1261 00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:49.119 State is my number five team. They of course only 1262 00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:51.559 two games, they've already had a buy but one of 1263 00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:55.880 their wins against Iowa that the defense is really solid, 1264 00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:59.880 and Spence I will say, when we're looking at teams 1265 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.320 can win the conference, I don't know that I really 1266 01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:07.599 put Iowa State in that in that conversation yet or 1267 01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:11.480 really will put them in that conversation this year. But 1268 01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:14.079 when it comes to teams that can give Utah trouble, 1269 01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:16.719 Iowa State's one that I really do look at. The 1270 01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:18.639 three three five defense, that they run a lot, to 1271 01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:21.360 the looks that they throw at you, that's a team 1272 01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:24.159 to look at in that regard. At number four, after 1273 01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:27.800 a big win over TCU, the only conference wins so far, 1274 01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:30.599 UCF comes in at number four. I think they've got 1275 01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:32.639 a lot of talent. If they can pull it together, 1276 01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:36.639 they can absolutely contend for this conference in the long stretch. 1277 01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:40.119 Oklahoma State the youth's opponent, coming in at number three 1278 01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:42.920 for me, and then number two. The only real reason 1279 01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:46.440 I found any delineation between Kansas State Oklahoma State so 1280 01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:49.960 far was because of that big win over a conference 1281 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:53.960 opponent in Arizona that Kansas State got, and they looked 1282 01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:57.440 convincing in doing so, Spence. So I got Kansas State 1283 01:00:57.440 --> 01:00:59.960 at number two and the team in Salt Lake City. 1284 01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:02.679 I still think it. We're obviously here on this station 1285 01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:06.000 ESPN seven hundred, your home of the Utes, but I'd 1286 01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:09.239 still think that what we've seen so far, if healthy, 1287 01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:13.079 the Big twelve runs through Salt Lake City, and the 1288 01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:17.159 status of Cam rising, the availability of some of their 1289 01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:19.159 other players has a lot to do with that. But uh, 1290 01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:21.760 you taught number one in the power ranking so far, 1291 01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:24.880 and I don't really see many arguments. 1292 01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:26.880 To the contrary. So you're a homer. I didn't know that, 1293 01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:29.480 all right. I mean, hey, if you raise you better 1294 01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:31.360 than this, young man. If they're the best team, they're 1295 01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:33.920 they're the best team. Are you really concerned about the 1296 01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:34.599 three three five? 1297 01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:38.440 Not really concerned, But I do think, and especially if 1298 01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:42.199 Cam's not fully ready to go, it is a defense 1299 01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:45.039 that could throw some looks at you, and hey, it's 1300 01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:47.719 just different, that's the only thing. It's It's different from 1301 01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:49.320 what you see a lot of the times. Just give 1302 01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:50.199 me a skinny post. 1303 01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:54.679 There you go up the middle, some checkdowns, swing passes, 1304 01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:57.079 keep them on their heels. There you go. That's what 1305 01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:00.360 you do. Against the three three five. You can do that. 1306 01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.920 That's what you have to do against it. You can 1307 01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:05.760 get you why banana up the middle hand it off 1308 01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:08.440 a bunch too. You will also run it. Just run 1309 01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:10.920 the rock. Yeah, and you know, you know that's what 1310 01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:12.920 I'm about. I'm all about put a bunch of tight 1311 01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:15.119 ends in the formation. Oh you know what. I want 1312 01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:17.760 all tight ends on the field. We'll talked about no 1313 01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:19.880 running backs. We got six of them up on the hill. 1314 01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:22.280 I just want t both on both sides of the ball, though. 1315 01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:24.159 I just want to see a game that's all tight ends. 1316 01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:26.880 That's how much I love tight ends. Dynamic. Nobody in 1317 01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:29.280 the market loves tight ends more than I love tight end. 1318 01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:31.639 And you only you're only saying this because of a 1319 01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:33.480 basketball player that's currently playing tight end. 1320 01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:35.840 That's what we've got going on. I'm just saying, like 1321 01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:38.559 your basketball, the world I want to live in is 1322 01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:40.800 the world where I go to a ute game and baby, 1323 01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:42.760 it's just tight ends on both sides of the ball. 1324 01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:44.559 I don't want to see any d lineman. I don't 1325 01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:47.760 need a running back. Give me eleven tight ends on 1326 01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:49.719 both ends of the ball, football sides of the ball. 1327 01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:52.840 That's what I am football guy. See, this is what 1328 01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.239 you have to do to do radio. You have to 1329 01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:58.880 there's a contest that goes on to prove who the 1330 01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:01.639 horniest guy is about, and it gets really exhausting. And 1331 01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:03.559 how many tight ends you can get on the field 1332 01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:06.920 is a big measure. No one loves tight ends like 1333 01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.320 the Drive with Spence check its loves time. We are 1334 01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:12.599 your home of tight ends in Salt Lake. I will 1335 01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:13.119 agree there. 1336 01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:16.480 Hey, no one gets in more offensive line questions than 1337 01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:19.000 I do during the course of a youth season. 1338 01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:21.039 I will say that. Dude, Now you're talking O block 1339 01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:24.800 on me. Oh stop it on a Monday, How dare you? 1340 01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:27.000 Nobody clear? Just to get my credentials out there. What 1341 01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:29.280 if somebody is listening that doesn't know anything about football, 1342 01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:31.000 and they turn on the radio and I said, nobody 1343 01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:34.239 loves tight ends more than I love tight ends. It's 1344 01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:36.039 a weird thing to say. If you don't know about football, 1345 01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:39.559 it could be a different show, could be all right, 1346 01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:43.719 we see things pretty close to I now. I also 1347 01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:45.679 have BYU at seven. Wanted to bump them up a 1348 01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:48.400 little bit. But man, Jake's just got to be better 1349 01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:50.079 with the ball. I mean, he throws the pick and 1350 01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:52.039 there are a couple of other dice. He throws against 1351 01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:55.519 a really bad Wyoming defense, but they've survived and there 1352 01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:57.480 was no doubt and lared me, I mean, I thought 1353 01:03:57.519 --> 01:04:00.639 that game. I thought the BYU game in a way 1354 01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:03.079 was a little bit like the Utah Utah State game, 1355 01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:05.159 where it just feels a little tricky, you know, heading 1356 01:04:05.239 --> 01:04:06.920 up there in a place that can be tough to 1357 01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:10.679 play Wyoming there, Monson on Friday said, why, I mean, sucks, 1358 01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:13.079 b Y, you should roll. I wasn't ready to say that, 1359 01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:14.920 but after watching that game, I'm ready to say that 1360 01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:18.320 they're horrible. They didn't do anything well and Jake really 1361 01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:19.920 spread the ball out, you know, found a bunch of 1362 01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:22.480 different receivers. Good to see Conto Hill getting the end 1363 01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:26.440 zone bit a minute, Darius Lassiter, Cody Epps, Chase Roberts. 1364 01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:30.559 Jake has weapons, man like BYU does have playmakers on 1365 01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:33.360 the offensive side of the ball. The question is two 1366 01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:35.519 running backs hurt, and I'm hearing that might be worse 1367 01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:39.719 than we understand. With Hinkley, Rapotti and LJ. Martin, Jake 1368 01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:42.800 Rehtz laugh led them in rushing. We only saw eight 1369 01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:45.519 carriers from Miles Davis who never really got going. So 1370 01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:47.840 we'll see how that plays out. But it just seems like, 1371 01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:50.079 and this is not a hot take, it's for every 1372 01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:52.400 team they're gonna go as Jake go's and if it's 1373 01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:54.199 not Jake, do they tried the be handing kid who's 1374 01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:57.360 won a Big twelve championship. Because there are plenty of 1375 01:04:57.400 --> 01:04:59.239 weapons on the offensive side of the ball. They were 1376 01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:03.760 on display against Wyoming. But defensively, you know Jay Hill, 1377 01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:06.239 second year Kilane, you know, he is a defensive guy 1378 01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:09.480 who's the coordinator up here forever. Really cut his teeth underwit. 1379 01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:13.280 So you know, they have been winning games in a 1380 01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:16.559 way that feels like a team that's coached by Kolonie Satake. 1381 01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:19.719 So they've stayed clean. They go to Laramie no problem 1382 01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:21.880 at all. So I have them at seven. I also 1383 01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:25.559 have ASU at six. You know, ultimately, I think Kenny 1384 01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:28.320 Dillingham is a really bright, young head coach. I've interviewed 1385 01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:32.079 him a couple of different times. I always enjoy, you know, interactions, 1386 01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:34.400 getting to know him a little bit port of reference. 1387 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:37.159 You know, we have seven clean teams so far that 1388 01:05:37.239 --> 01:05:40.880 stayed unbeaten, most in the non con and Arizona State 1389 01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:43.480 did struggle last Thursday with Texas State. Texas State is 1390 01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:44.960 an underrated program. 1391 01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:45.159 Man. 1392 01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:47.599 They were actually a favorite at one point, so it's 1393 01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:49.440 a win you stay clean. I have them at six. 1394 01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:52.000 At five, I have UCF and that might not be 1395 01:05:52.079 --> 01:05:54.679 high enough. Okay, and I, by the way, I also 1396 01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:57.880 think TCU is good. That was an awesome football game. 1397 01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:01.639 UCF gets the win. Thirty five thirty four. I wanted 1398 01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:03.800 to put TCU in the mix here because I do 1399 01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:06.840 think that's a team I've heard Josh Payton others talk 1400 01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:09.199 about this. They could win this conference that a lot 1401 01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:12.119 of people aren't talking about. But UCF goes down there, 1402 01:06:12.199 --> 01:06:14.400 they get the win, so they enter my top five 1403 01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:17.079 for the first time. At four, I have Iowa State. 1404 01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:20.920 A random early season by for Iowa State, but they 1405 01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:23.199 have the best win in my opinion so far in 1406 01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:26.159 conference play. That's a win over Iowa So I still 1407 01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:27.840 have them at four. That's where I had them last week. 1408 01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:31.280 The top three remain unchanged for me. At three is 1409 01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:34.159 Oklahoma State. Okay, the school that you guys are going 1410 01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:37.199 to see Utah play coming up this week. Oklahoma State 1411 01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:40.480 stayed clean against a bad Tolls To team, but they're 1412 01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:43.360 three and zero. They're tough, they're physical, they want to 1413 01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:45.880 run the football. Utah State was able to gain yards 1414 01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:49.480 on the ground, and you know, a win against Arkansas, 1415 01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:54.519 albeit a really dicey one. They were getting curbstoms by 1416 01:06:54.559 --> 01:06:56.840 the Razorbacks and needed a late miracle to come back 1417 01:06:56.880 --> 01:06:59.000 and win, but they did. That's a non con P 1418 01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:02.880 four win over and s team. I have Oklahoma stated three, 1419 01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:07.559 and last week I had Okay stated two and Case 1420 01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:10.360 stated three. But this week I'll flip that script after 1421 01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:14.679 really overwhelming an excellent Arizona team. So a very impressive 1422 01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:18.840 win BYU hosting k State coming up this weekend, and 1423 01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:22.960 then Utah hitting the road taking on Oklahoma State in Stillwater. 1424 01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:25.800 So there you go. Big twelve power rankings. We do 1425 01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:28.800 it every week every Monday. On the program. We're gonna 1426 01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:31.880 bring in Tony Parks live in studio Porter. Before we 1427 01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:33.440 catch a break, let me ask you the question I 1428 01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:37.119 asked Sean during cross talk and I was catching up 1429 01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:42.039 with Josh Furlong about the situation from KSL. Just from 1430 01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:45.760 your dvantage point, what questions specifically do you think Isaac 1431 01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:49.480 Wilson answered with his performance on Saturday against the Aggies. 1432 01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:53.679 Yeah, well, I will have to identify the questions I 1433 01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:57.400 had personally for Isaac to go in there, and some 1434 01:07:57.480 --> 01:07:59.639 of the things that I had seen him struggling with 1435 01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:04.440 were pre snap. Right in Isaac, I could see that 1436 01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:07.440 when he's sending a guy in motion, and in Andy 1437 01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:10.000 Ludwigs's offense, and in many offenses, right you're you're trying 1438 01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:12.840 to identify things with that motion. You're trying to identify 1439 01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:16.359 which linebacker is in coverage, which linebacker might be stunting. 1440 01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:20.119 Isaac was a little delayed in recognizing some of that, 1441 01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:23.600 and then once the snap happened, that means you're a 1442 01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:26.840 little bit delayed in your first progression, your first read. 1443 01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:31.680 So Zach's entire chain, if you will, is his timing chain, 1444 01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:34.560 was was out of whack from the from the very beginning, 1445 01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:39.000 because that basically second and a half to two snekets 1446 01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:42.319 two seconds before the snap spence where you're usually going 1447 01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:46.079 through your motions, you're usually you know, checking the mic linebacker, 1448 01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:49.199 You're you're going through your communications with your offensive lineman. 1449 01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:52.399 That all happens within the course of literally two seconds 1450 01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:56.840 or so. That was a struggle for Isaac for in game. 1451 01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:02.199 Bright Lights are on and it took a minute for 1452 01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:05.119 him to settle in. But there was a moment in Logan, 1453 01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:08.479 I want to say midway through the second quarter where 1454 01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:11.840 you start started to see the the game developing in 1455 01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:15.840 front of Isaac at a speed where he wasn't behind, 1456 01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:18.680 he wasn't forcing things just a second too slope. Now 1457 01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:21.880 there are still moments when you're seeing that is an issue, 1458 01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:23.920 and I still need to see some growth in that area, 1459 01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:27.680 but you saw that he was not completely overwhelmed by it, 1460 01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:30.000 which I think he was a little bit against Southern 1461 01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:32.600 Utah even in Game one, and then definitely a little 1462 01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:37.479 bit against Baylor. So I really did see him take 1463 01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:40.600 steps in that. In that regard, I still think there 1464 01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:43.800 is some pre snap stuff where he is He's not 1465 01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:46.560 on the level that of course a Cam Rising or 1466 01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:50.880 a several year Division I college quarterback would be, where 1467 01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:55.439 he is actually not identifying correctly some of the coverages, 1468 01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:59.560 and it's it's ending in you know some plays that 1469 01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:02.000 you Todd just ends up basically throwing the ball away 1470 01:10:02.039 --> 01:10:05.399 or handing off because they're not exactly sure what the 1471 01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:07.760 defense is doing. And that comes with time, that comes 1472 01:10:07.760 --> 01:10:10.880 with his reps, not only in this offense, but also 1473 01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:15.960 against Division one college football teams that are are up 1474 01:10:16.039 --> 01:10:18.079 to speed with what he'll see in the Big twelve, 1475 01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:21.279 and that only comes with reps. But I did like 1476 01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:23.680 what I saw from the second quarter on Saturday. 1477 01:10:23.800 --> 01:10:25.359 I was really proud of him. Man. I thought he 1478 01:10:25.439 --> 01:10:28.039 stepped up. I thought he met the moment. After that 1479 01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:30.920 rough start. You could feel the anxiety around town. I'm 1480 01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:33.760 getting taxed from buddies. We're watching the game. It's like, oh, 1481 01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:35.920 you know, how's this going to play out? And he 1482 01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:38.199 answered the bell man. So shout out to Isaac Wilson 1483 01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:41.399 on this Monday. Shout out to the Black Desert Championship 1484 01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:44.479 October the ninth through the thirteenth at the Black Deser 1485 01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:48.039 Resort in Saint George. If you've not been there, here's 1486 01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:50.119 the deal. If you have golfers in your life, they've 1487 01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:53.680 probably been blabbing their your ear off about Black des 1488 01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:55.920 a resort. You might be annoyed with how much you've 1489 01:10:55.960 --> 01:10:59.960 heard about it. It's everything that you've heard and probably 1490 01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:03.079 little more. They have done a phenomenal job. It's one 1491 01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:05.239 of the favorite golfing experiences I've ever had in my life. 1492 01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:06.760 I've only played it once. It was a couple of 1493 01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:09.199 weeks ago, a couple months ago actually down in Saint George. 1494 01:11:09.239 --> 01:11:12.159 It was hot. But the PGA Tours coming back to 1495 01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:14.920 Utah for the first time in more than sixty years. 1496 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:19.079 Black Desert Championship tickets are available now at Black Desert 1497 01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:21.319 Events dot com. You can also follow them on social 1498 01:11:21.399 --> 01:11:25.199 media on Instagram at Black Desert Championship is where you 1499 01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:28.199 find them. You have some clouds coming in, maybe a 1500 01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:32.159 little storm situation, and it's fall technically we're there, so 1501 01:11:32.199 --> 01:11:34.960 the weather's going to start to cool down a little bit. 1502 01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:37.880 But joining me now live in studio for an entire hour. Man, 1503 01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:40.760 my guy, we've worked together in one way or another 1504 01:11:40.800 --> 01:11:44.439 for like fifteen years. TP Tony Parks, the voice of 1505 01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:47.399 the Bees. What's up, buddy, I'm sorry, I'm on the 1506 01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:50.680 wrong bike. No, you're good. So you'll respect this as 1507 01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.399 somebody who literally has done everything in radio. You can 1508 01:11:53.560 --> 01:11:55.479 talk about the jazz or take the trash out. That's 1509 01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:58.239 what's great about you. We've got a new board here 1510 01:11:58.720 --> 01:12:00.800 and we've got a new setup in studio, so we're 1511 01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:03.279 still trying to traverse that space. So Porter asked to 1512 01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:06.239 actually turn your mic on this will terrify you. I 1513 01:12:06.279 --> 01:12:08.279 cannot turn my mic on her off, and we don't 1514 01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:10.800 have a dump button every day for four hours. I'm like, 1515 01:12:10.840 --> 01:12:13.840 don't don't say that one. Hey, there pops in your 1516 01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:15.960 head again. Don't know, can't say that one. So I 1517 01:12:16.039 --> 01:12:19.840 take it. Britton Johnson will not be in studio for roofful. 1518 01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:22.359 I love that, man. Do you need a dump button 1519 01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:25.039 with Britton Johnson along for the ride? Longtime co host 1520 01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:27.199 on Jasper aff and post how you been Manthe's good? 1521 01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:28.760 I've been so good man, I love it. 1522 01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:28.960 Man. 1523 01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:30.840 Every day I get to wake up and I go 1524 01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:31.840 to a baseball game. 1525 01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:34.560 And today we don't have a game, but we traveled 1526 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:38.399 in last night, so my wife and our newborn daughter 1527 01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:40.600 were there at home here in Salt Lake, at our 1528 01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:43.079 place here, and got up today and had a great 1529 01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:43.680 morning with her. 1530 01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:46.079 And you know, there is nothing like it. 1531 01:12:46.119 --> 01:12:49.159 I wake up and I have an infant who makes 1532 01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:52.560 fun little noises and squeals, and she just loves her 1533 01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:55.880 puppy and she loves her life and she can't wait 1534 01:12:55.920 --> 01:12:58.800 to see what's coming up every day. And then after that, 1535 01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:01.119 I go to a baseball game and I get to 1536 01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:03.479 be around great people and I love the team that 1537 01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:06.000 I work with. I love the team that is on 1538 01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:09.159 the field as well, Manager Keith Johnson. Just like when 1539 01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:13.279 you have that every single day, man, you are really alive. 1540 01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:16.279 And it's the final year of the ballpark, a place 1541 01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:18.039 that's very near and dear to my heart for so 1542 01:13:18.119 --> 01:13:20.880 many reasons. And so this last week I'm just gonna 1543 01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:23.680 soak it up. Man, six days. If you're the fan, 1544 01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:26.000 you know, make sure to join us. You know, I'm 1545 01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:28.680 gonna pump for tickets, just because it's it's an iconic place. 1546 01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:30.159 The weather's going to be great, but we have all 1547 01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:33.279 these great tributes coming up, and I am just over 1548 01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:36.520 the moon excited for what should be, you know, a 1549 01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:38.439 great week of being around great people. 1550 01:13:38.520 --> 01:13:43.680 This is the last week of the ballpark. Oh we 1551 01:13:43.720 --> 01:13:45.760 talked about it last week. I just forgot. I played 1552 01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:48.199 way too much mediocre golf over the weekend. It's taking 1553 01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:52.000 the bandwidth. How you dealing with that? What's it like 1554 01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:55.640 over there? Last week of that ballpark? Man? I can remember, 1555 01:13:56.039 --> 01:13:59.399 we all can remember going there forever ago and Thursday 1556 01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:03.239 Thursdays college and throughout the course, you know, like so 1557 01:14:03.399 --> 01:14:06.079 many great memories. Obviously, you're the guy for this. You 1558 01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:08.880 have more memories than anyone outside of the late great 1559 01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:12.319 Steve Cloukey. So what's it like. What's it feel like 1560 01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:14.199 knowing that this thing is coming to an end in 1561 01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:15.079 the Capital City. 1562 01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:17.920 I think it's it's very emotional for me because there's 1563 01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:21.520 so many different chapters to a childhood. Baseball It's where 1564 01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:23.680 we felt most safe when we made the move, my 1565 01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:24.920 mom and I to Salt Lake City. 1566 01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:25.840 That was kind of our thing. 1567 01:14:26.399 --> 01:14:28.319 It's how I grew a big Cubs fan because we 1568 01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:29.840 watched WGN. 1569 01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:31.560 No matter where we were. Greg maddox I was on 1570 01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:32.199 Dan Giel. 1571 01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:35.279 Steve Stone was the star of our home mark race. Yeah, 1572 01:14:35.319 --> 01:14:37.439 I mean I had Steve Stone and my mom teaching 1573 01:14:37.439 --> 01:14:39.399 me the game. Anybody who knows my mom knows like 1574 01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:41.279 that was the ultimate cheat code to have him and 1575 01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:44.439 her together, Like teaching me the game was amazing anyway, 1576 01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:47.479 So baseball is a big part to us. And then 1577 01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:50.119 you know, when I got the job as the play 1578 01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:52.079 by play announcer, I'll never forget it. I mean, I 1579 01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:54.319 come back into the state of Utah really for the 1580 01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:57.359 first time since Sophie was born, and I go up 1581 01:14:57.359 --> 01:14:59.239 to the press box. I had a Weaver State football 1582 01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:01.600 game and Steve Clokey's calling it for radio and I 1583 01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:03.520 got it on TV and it's the first time we'd 1584 01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:06.760 seen each other since he retired, Like there's some there's 1585 01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:09.199 some stuff here, and the way he grabbed my arm 1586 01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:10.319 and the way he shook. 1587 01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:11.600 It around, and the way he pulled me in and 1588 01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:12.159 gave me a hug. 1589 01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:14.199 And then the one thing he told me was, you know, 1590 01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:16.920 I called the first game ever at that ballpark, and 1591 01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:18.560 I think it's so beautiful that you get to call 1592 01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:19.960 the last game ever at that ballpark. 1593 01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:22.920 So here's one thing people didn't know all year. 1594 01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:26.239 I had remembered him saying that, and I put something 1595 01:15:26.279 --> 01:15:29.279 together towards the last homestand to where I was going 1596 01:15:29.359 --> 01:15:32.439 to bring different people in to call a few innings 1597 01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:35.119 with me, just as a color commentary conversational on the TV. 1598 01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:37.840 Brook loved, Yeah one, I'm Frank Laden. Yeah, it's an 1599 01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:39.760 obvious one. There's just just all these different people I 1600 01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:41.880 was going to bring in. But the last one I 1601 01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:44.000 was going to have was Steve Klokey, And I know 1602 01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:46.479 exactly the way that he would set up his book. 1603 01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:48.600 I studied it all the way down because he has 1604 01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:50.479 all of his books in there, and I was going 1605 01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:52.880 to set up the game book exactly like that, and 1606 01:15:52.920 --> 01:15:55.119 when it got to the final three OUTSAR six, depending 1607 01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:57.239 on how the game was going, I was going to 1608 01:15:57.319 --> 01:16:02.119 have him call the final outs at the ballpark because 1609 01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:04.760 I truly felt that's the way it should have ended up. 1610 01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:07.560 And so as I think about that, that's another thing 1611 01:16:07.560 --> 01:16:09.479 that gets me emotional about this week, because I had 1612 01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:10.800 those plans put into place. 1613 01:16:11.119 --> 01:16:13.720 Tell her that's a mean Tell our listeners, do you 1614 01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:16.880 ever listen to the podcast smartlest the Bateman Will It's 1615 01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:20.079 a funny like celebrity podcast. It's like a guilty pleasure listen, 1616 01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:24.359 and they talk often about their industry as actors. But 1617 01:16:24.600 --> 01:16:27.720 when they use terms they tell, they follow up to 1618 01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:30.960 tell the guests to talk to one of the co 1619 01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:33.680 hosts sisters who has no clue about acting. Does that 1620 01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:35.600 make sense? So for our listeners that don't know what 1621 01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:38.000 a game book is, oh, explain what that is. 1622 01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:40.159 Yeah, It's just like it's the way you have your 1623 01:16:40.199 --> 01:16:42.199 score sheet and you have you know the visitor and 1624 01:16:42.239 --> 01:16:44.359 the home team, and the way you list out the 1625 01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:46.399 starting lineups and all those different things. He and I 1626 01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:49.239 have a very similar one see, yeah, very very similar. 1627 01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:51.640 We have very different ways which way we format it. 1628 01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:54.960 I put numbers in unique spots and I don't label it. 1629 01:16:55.039 --> 01:16:57.079 I just know what that number means, and so when 1630 01:16:57.119 --> 01:16:59.399 I need it, my eyes go right to it. I 1631 01:16:59.399 --> 01:17:01.800 got it, and I move, gotcha, And it's the way. 1632 01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:04.279 And he was very much the same. Now we're different 1633 01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:06.840 in exactly what we put where, but there's a style 1634 01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:08.880 in which we had, so I mean down to the 1635 01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:09.720 tiniest details. 1636 01:17:09.760 --> 01:17:11.399 He had a unique style. I had a un ink style. 1637 01:17:11.479 --> 01:17:14.079 So one thing that I would do is like, if 1638 01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:17.520 somebody pops up the first base and it's caught, it's three. 1639 01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:19.319 But if it's a pop up high in the air, 1640 01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:21.000 it's a big fat three. 1641 01:17:21.159 --> 01:17:21.960 That's the way. 1642 01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:24.720 If it's a line drive, it's like the straight lines, 1643 01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:27.359 gotcha three. If it's a pop up and foul ground, 1644 01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:29.880 it's a backwards fat three, like I do. 1645 01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:31.039 Like just my mind. 1646 01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:33.199 Automatically knows popped up in the foul ground. So there's 1647 01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:35.520 a coding system that you have that's your own style. 1648 01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:37.640 And I knew his style inside out, so I was 1649 01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:40.000 gonna set it up that way throughout the game, and 1650 01:17:40.039 --> 01:17:41.319 that's how it was gonna end. 1651 01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:42.880 I was going to surprise him with it. I'm gonna 1652 01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:44.079 make sure his family knew about it. 1653 01:17:44.119 --> 01:17:47.159 Yeah, and let it be, because that's the way I 1654 01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:48.359 believe that. 1655 01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:50.399 The final three outs and the broadcast and all that shit. 1656 01:17:50.720 --> 01:17:55.119 I still you know, I had a pin tweet of 1657 01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:58.720 my Steve Clocky bobblehead until like a week ago, and 1658 01:17:59.239 --> 01:18:01.439 every time I think it, I still go, wait, ones, 1659 01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:05.960 what how did that happen? So over there? So Oklahoma 1660 01:18:06.039 --> 01:18:07.720 City is in town. We've got Smith's family and I 1661 01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:10.920 coming up tomorrow, Thirsty Thursday. On Thursday, we've got to 1662 01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:14.479 go Golden Night on Friday, fan Appreciation Night Saturday. Then 1663 01:18:14.520 --> 01:18:17.479 the finale is on Sunday. The final game for the 1664 01:18:17.520 --> 01:18:21.880 Bees of the ballpark here in the Capital City is Sunday. Now, 1665 01:18:22.199 --> 01:18:26.279 obviously you and I are of the same mind about 1666 01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:28.720 the Miller family and the goals they have. Yeah, and 1667 01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:30.800 the Stewards they were over a team that you and 1668 01:18:30.840 --> 01:18:33.039 I both worked for and still to this day I 1669 01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:36.239 cheer for in the Utah Jazz. So Steve Stark's friend 1670 01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:39.039 of the show, friend off air as well. You know 1671 01:18:39.159 --> 01:18:41.840 what they're doing to build a new ballpark. You know, 1672 01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:44.279 property deserve a bottom line for me is I live 1673 01:18:44.279 --> 01:18:46.239 in Salt Lake and it's a bummer that it's leaving, right, 1674 01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:49.920 but I appreciate this endeavor that the Millers have taken 1675 01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:52.520 on and hope that at some point it does lead 1676 01:18:52.560 --> 01:18:54.960 to a major League baseball team here in our capital 1677 01:18:55.319 --> 01:18:59.079 city personally, which would be awesome. So as you look ahead, 1678 01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:02.920 Tony two, what's next for this little ow ball club? 1679 01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:04.840 What are some of your thoughts and what's kind of 1680 01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:06.319 the redeeming feel of the organization. 1681 01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:08.479 I love the big steps that were taking this year, 1682 01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:10.680 and some of them were not witnessed. Some of them 1683 01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:13.279 you couldn't see with your eyes, but great work from 1684 01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:15.640 so many people who stepped into the ballpark ready to 1685 01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:20.359 go with great baseball mindset and great business of baseball mindset. Right, 1686 01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:21.760 you can be a baseball person, you could be a 1687 01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:24.720 business person, but these are people who understand the business 1688 01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:26.920 of baseball and it's going a long way. Derek Amacon 1689 01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:29.159 a huge part of that. Cam Coglan a huge part 1690 01:19:29.159 --> 01:19:31.479 of that. Ty Wardle. I know I'm leaving some people out, 1691 01:19:31.479 --> 01:19:32.800 but I don't have all day. But the point is 1692 01:19:32.800 --> 01:19:35.279 a lot of people who are stepping in there with 1693 01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:39.359 new roles new responsibilities. They're doing a masterful job at 1694 01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:41.960 putting together great concepts that are helping build and go 1695 01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:44.399 bigger because a lot of what's happening is is we're 1696 01:19:44.399 --> 01:19:47.000 moving to major league mindset, and there were major strides 1697 01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:48.640 that took place there. First of all, they got a 1698 01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:51.239 TV deal done in record time. That was amazing. I mean, 1699 01:19:51.239 --> 01:19:54.119 the great work by from Cam coglan to you know, 1700 01:19:54.119 --> 01:19:57.079 obviously Ty Wordle and everybody in between to make sure 1701 01:19:57.119 --> 01:19:58.680 that that came together. We have all these games on 1702 01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:01.920 KMYU and we have more games than I think any 1703 01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:04.159 minor league team out there on linear or TV. I 1704 01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:05.760 want to say, I have to double check that to 1705 01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:08.600 be sure, but we have almost forty games right. Then 1706 01:20:08.680 --> 01:20:11.359 the quality of our broadcast. Then we go into the 1707 01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:13.680 features of our broadcast, and they just kind of said, dude, 1708 01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:14.399 you run with this. 1709 01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:16.039 You make it the best it could be. 1710 01:20:16.279 --> 01:20:19.439 Go and everybody's one hundred miles an hour to be 1711 01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:21.039 the very best that we can be. Now, a lot 1712 01:20:21.079 --> 01:20:23.119 of these things that were put into place behind the 1713 01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:25.439 scenes you can't see. Next year, you're going to see 1714 01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:27.199 things in a new ballpark that are going to be 1715 01:20:27.199 --> 01:20:28.600 elevated to levels no other. 1716 01:20:28.479 --> 01:20:29.760 Minor league baseball team has. 1717 01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:33.800 They are very serious about not just being good, not 1718 01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:35.720 just being the best, but they want to run up 1719 01:20:35.760 --> 01:20:39.439 the score. It's not about everybody else, it's truly about us, 1720 01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:43.079 and it's about creating a major league level experience in 1721 01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:45.920 a minor league ballpark. And that's the standard that Steve 1722 01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:48.600 Clouke had for the broadcast. That was my number one 1723 01:20:48.640 --> 01:20:50.960 goal coming into it, as well as humanizing the broadcast 1724 01:20:51.159 --> 01:20:54.159 and making sure that the listener felt connected to what's happening. 1725 01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:57.439 They're also doing that in their game presentation. They're going 1726 01:20:57.479 --> 01:21:00.439 all the way when it comes to premium seating, everything involved. 1727 01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:04.319 So that is I think a great runway into a 1728 01:21:04.359 --> 01:21:08.119 wonderful campaign into giving this market the absolute best chance 1729 01:21:08.159 --> 01:21:09.960 possible to have a major league team someday. So when 1730 01:21:09.960 --> 01:21:12.279 you talk the stuff that you'll see, that's what you're 1731 01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:14.359 gonna see next year. And a lot of the things 1732 01:21:14.359 --> 01:21:16.640 that have been under the surface this year also great 1733 01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:20.199 job by I mean, from Amy Jackson to Dustin dell In. 1734 01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:22.520 I mean, there's just a lot of people that have 1735 01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:25.920 exhausted efforts, Brian Dever, everybody who's just gone all in 1736 01:21:26.479 --> 01:21:28.399 on making this the best year it can be to 1737 01:21:28.439 --> 01:21:29.239 give next year. 1738 01:21:29.119 --> 01:21:32.560 A big punch. Did you say, Derek Amercon Yeah, Mark 1739 01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:35.880 amccray porter, will you hop on the micro quick and 1740 01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:39.039 remind Tony what our official stances on our radio show 1741 01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:43.199 about nepotism? Please not big on nepotism. You can't wait 1742 01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:45.319 with them. I can't wait with them. You know, it's 1743 01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:49.000 just now, that's just this radio show. That's just our opinion. 1744 01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:51.560 I can't I kid marks the never met Derek. But 1745 01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:54.760 Mark's a great guy. Derek's a star, that's awesome to hear, 1746 01:21:55.039 --> 01:21:58.159 huge star. He's been as close to MVP as anybody 1747 01:21:58.159 --> 01:21:59.880 could be this year. So before we move off the be, 1748 01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:02.840 give me the pitch man, let's get people out this week. 1749 01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:05.600 I completely I'm getting to a game this week, so 1750 01:22:06.319 --> 01:22:06.960 let's let's hear it. 1751 01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:09.399 Five dollar tickets on Sunday, We're going back to nineteen 1752 01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:12.640 ninety four. Five dollars tickets. Unbelievable like concession items that 1753 01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:16.279 will be at great value pricing team store items throughout 1754 01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:18.039 the week that you're going to want to take advantage 1755 01:22:18.039 --> 01:22:21.359 of with that, wonderful tributes all week, iconic members that'll 1756 01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:25.279 be there, former big name people who've played there, won't 1757 01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:27.399 give out the names yet, but you're gonna want to 1758 01:22:27.479 --> 01:22:29.199 join us and be a part of that Friday Night's 1759 01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:31.079 gold Golden night. And I know that this is one 1760 01:22:31.119 --> 01:22:32.920 that's going to hit to you personally. I mean, I 1761 01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:36.600 know you know cancer has affected you personally. You and 1762 01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:38.239 I have talked about this on the air. Off the air. 1763 01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:40.760 That's a big one in the fight against childhood cancer. 1764 01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:43.399 We're really really big on that, and my family is 1765 01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:46.880 all in on doing what we can to support families. 1766 01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:49.039 And so that night, you get fireworks after the game, 1767 01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:51.000 kids get to run the bases after the game. On Friday, 1768 01:22:51.039 --> 01:22:53.960 Saturday and Sunday, you know, fireworks on Friday and Saturday. 1769 01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:56.960 You know everything that you're going to want to have, 1770 01:22:57.000 --> 01:22:59.520 all the fields that made this place so special. 1771 01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:01.960 You're gonna feel it over and over and over again. 1772 01:23:02.159 --> 01:23:05.439 I was putting together some different videos and just wonderful tributes, 1773 01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:07.520 so you know, at your last chance to get there 1774 01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:09.520 to catch a B's game, whether you started there with 1775 01:23:09.600 --> 01:23:11.720 the Buzz or the Stingers, or whether you were even 1776 01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:13.680 you know, the Trappers, or let's they go back to 1777 01:23:13.720 --> 01:23:16.039 the goals. My favorite part is talking to every person 1778 01:23:16.119 --> 01:23:19.159 giving me It's always a family story, my grandpa, my dad, 1779 01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:20.560 my mom my, this. 1780 01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:22.520 That, and there was this game. They don't remember the score, 1781 01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:23.920 they don't remember this, they don't know. 1782 01:23:24.079 --> 01:23:26.479 Maybe they remember one player in one moment, but they 1783 01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:29.319 never forgot the foam finger or the foul ball. There's 1784 01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:31.880 always something there. And I just I think that's what 1785 01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:33.960 makes this place so beautiful. Yeah, that's what it's about. 1786 01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:37.239 I mean I was and you referenced, you referenced, go 1787 01:23:37.239 --> 01:23:39.520 Golden Night. So the fight against childhood cancer. 1788 01:23:40.079 --> 01:23:41.920 And I just said my twenty one years man, twenty 1789 01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:45.000 one years free. But I remember, thank you very much. 1790 01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:47.199 I just remember I was twenty five. When a doctor 1791 01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:49.079 looked at me, it was like, you're gonna die. You 1792 01:23:49.079 --> 01:23:51.319 have a brain tumor or you're dying, right. And so 1793 01:23:51.439 --> 01:23:54.239 I can remember during my recovery walking up and down 1794 01:23:54.279 --> 01:23:56.640 the hallways and it's the kids where you go, dude, 1795 01:23:57.119 --> 01:24:00.199 what this five year old? Yeah is in here with 1796 01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:05.119 no hair. And I can remember in the room next 1797 01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:07.399 to me when I was in physical therapy, literally relearning 1798 01:24:07.399 --> 01:24:10.760 how to walk. A mom. It's hard to talk about him. 1799 01:24:10.760 --> 01:24:12.359 Mom would come in the room every night and pray 1800 01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:15.000 with her son, and he was twelve years old and 1801 01:24:15.079 --> 01:24:17.000 his name was Nate, And I remember listening to her 1802 01:24:17.039 --> 01:24:19.800 say a prayer with her son, Nate, and then I 1803 01:24:19.840 --> 01:24:22.960 woke up one morning and he was gone from the 1804 01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:26.760 room and he died. He passed, you know, three weeks 1805 01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:28.880 of listening to his mother pray with him every night. 1806 01:24:28.920 --> 01:24:30.560 At the age of twelve. He died of a brain 1807 01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:33.479 tumor that they could not operate on. It's just whatever 1808 01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:37.119 we can do societally to fight our generations that thing, 1809 01:24:37.159 --> 01:24:40.640 and that's what cancer is. I definitely applaud that. So 1810 01:24:40.640 --> 01:24:42.800 where's the best place tell him for people to get tickets? Yeah, 1811 01:24:42.920 --> 01:24:46.600 SLBs dot com. That's where you're want to go. SLBs 1812 01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:47.039 dot com. 1813 01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:50.880 Amazing discounts, very valued pricing, take advantage of all of that. 1814 01:24:51.479 --> 01:24:53.720 And I've been telling people, don't just catch one last game, 1815 01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:56.520 catch multiple be there multiple times. Every Night's going to 1816 01:24:56.560 --> 01:24:58.840 look and sound and feel a little bit different. You're 1817 01:24:58.880 --> 01:24:59.920 gonna want to take a piece of that. 1818 01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:02.960 So all right, good stuff. So head over to the 1819 01:25:03.079 --> 01:25:04.760 b's game this week. It's the final week of the 1820 01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:07.680 best playing baseball in Salt Lake. Let's move over to 1821 01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:09.760 the utes. But before we get there, because you just 1822 01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:11.880 jarred something in my mind, it really is. It's one 1823 01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:14.520 of the things that as I age and as I 1824 01:25:14.600 --> 01:25:17.239 continue to be involved in the world of sports, I 1825 01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:19.199 try to have perspective on it. It's very much zero 1826 01:25:19.319 --> 01:25:22.960 some game. We're not changing the world, but the generational connections. 1827 01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:25.680 I lost my grandfather about a year and a half ago, 1828 01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:28.520 and you know, Big d Big Dave, he's getting a 1829 01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:30.319 little older, right, So I'm watching my dad age. I 1830 01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:33.840 said goodbye to my grandpa, and we have this book 1831 01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:38.119 that was put together for all the grandkids and all 1832 01:25:38.119 --> 01:25:41.079 the pictures. It's me and my grandpa golfing. It's me 1833 01:25:41.119 --> 01:25:42.640 and my grandpa to jazz game. It's me and my 1834 01:25:42.680 --> 01:25:44.760 grandpa to BYU game. He was a Cougar club guy. 1835 01:25:45.279 --> 01:25:48.000 And then the generational connection between my grandpa and my 1836 01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:50.279 father and now my son who's twenty three. You know, 1837 01:25:50.279 --> 01:25:52.800 he's a fourth generation big sports fan. He's back East, 1838 01:25:52.840 --> 01:25:54.680 living in New York, going a Jets games, Yankee game, 1839 01:25:54.760 --> 01:25:58.359 nixth game, loving it. I walked through the tailgate the 1840 01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:02.479 other day for it was prior to the Utah SUU game, 1841 01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:06.199 and a gentleman called out my name. He listens to 1842 01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:09.520 the station and they had a tailgate setup. It was 1843 01:26:09.640 --> 01:26:12.560 very extensive. They did the prep, they're barbecuing that drinks 1844 01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:14.680 and it was packed. And he said, I want to 1845 01:26:14.840 --> 01:26:17.199 want you to I want to introduce you to my grandfather. 1846 01:26:17.199 --> 01:26:19.640 He's the one that started all this. And I sat down, 1847 01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:21.680 I talk with him, and he talked about buying a 1848 01:26:21.720 --> 01:26:23.640 ticket to the old stadium for a nickel back in 1849 01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:27.079 nineteen forty seven. And then I'm seeing I met his son, 1850 01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:29.399 and then I met his grandsons and they're all there 1851 01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:31.920 at the Utah football game, tailgating prior to the kick. 1852 01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:35.039 And you know the deal, when you get into the job, 1853 01:26:35.239 --> 01:26:37.960 you know, you kind of have to become agnostic. You 1854 01:26:38.039 --> 01:26:42.239 kind of have to become immune or numb to fandom 1855 01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:45.359 or else. It compromises the craft of what you're trying 1856 01:26:45.399 --> 01:26:48.880 to do. And sometimes it does feel too much like 1857 01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:51.680 a job to me. And so to be reminded of 1858 01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:53.600 really what it's all about. You know, the stories that 1859 01:26:53.640 --> 01:26:56.319 you get at the ballpark of people talking about generations 1860 01:26:56.399 --> 01:26:59.600 of baseball fans going over the years, walking through a 1861 01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:03.199 tail gate to Utah football, where you meet the patriarch 1862 01:27:03.239 --> 01:27:05.720 of the whole situation who's been going a Utah football 1863 01:27:05.720 --> 01:27:08.079 game since nineteen forty seven, passed it on to his kid, 1864 01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:10.399 who's now pasted it on to his sons. Oh man, 1865 01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:12.920 that it reminds you, like we catch a lot of 1866 01:27:12.920 --> 01:27:14.720 crap in the world of sports, like you don't matter, 1867 01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:16.319 like there's too many other things going on in the world. 1868 01:27:16.359 --> 01:27:18.319 It reminds you why it's fun to exist in the 1869 01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:20.199 toy aisle that we do covering sports. 1870 01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:22.640 Oh yeah, because what you really are in love with 1871 01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:26.000 is the emotions you feel in the connection you have 1872 01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:28.640 with Michigan win in the national title last year, the 1873 01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:30.880 connection I have with that with my mom because we'd 1874 01:27:30.920 --> 01:27:33.960 watch clubs games in the afternoon summertime during the day, 1875 01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:38.159 well in the fall, Saturday and Sunday mornings. I would 1876 01:27:38.239 --> 01:27:40.359 kind of take care of myself early so she could 1877 01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:43.239 sleep in because she was waitressing, bartending, she was up late, 1878 01:27:43.279 --> 01:27:44.920 stuff like that, and I would kind of have to 1879 01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:47.319 take care of myself, take care of the house. So 1880 01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:49.319 she would get up and we'd watch football together. And 1881 01:27:49.319 --> 01:27:52.319 I learned the game initially through Michigan football and her 1882 01:27:52.760 --> 01:27:55.159 the cool song, cool helmet, cool everything. Oh my gosh, 1883 01:27:55.159 --> 01:27:56.399 that was our team. They were the first team on 1884 01:27:56.399 --> 01:27:59.199 a lot of times. So there's so much wrapped into that, 1885 01:27:59.239 --> 01:28:00.800 and then it comes into my brother and it just 1886 01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:01.880 expands out. 1887 01:28:02.119 --> 01:28:05.520 It has nothing to do with you know, Elvis Gerbach 1888 01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:06.439 or Desmond Howard. 1889 01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:09.399 I mean, but it was the memory and the excitement 1890 01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:12.079 and all of those moments that we lived through Charles 1891 01:28:12.119 --> 01:28:14.159 Woods and soaring through the air, picking off pass in 1892 01:28:14.199 --> 01:28:16.199 the end zone and the Rose Bowls. It's the way 1893 01:28:16.279 --> 01:28:18.640 my mom screamed when Tommy Hendrix picked it off in 1894 01:28:18.680 --> 01:28:21.279 the end zone against Notre Dame in nineteen ninety seven, 1895 01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:24.319 and the celebration in our living room. It's that stuff 1896 01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:27.600 right there. It's that it's watching her joy and excitement. 1897 01:28:27.880 --> 01:28:30.399 So you as a fan, whether it's going to the ballpark, 1898 01:28:30.439 --> 01:28:32.119 whether it's the fan of the utes and all that, 1899 01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:34.760 what it really is about is your experience in your 1900 01:28:34.760 --> 01:28:37.680 life and that is a fabric of what makes this 1901 01:28:37.840 --> 01:28:40.319 so beautiful. And I wish we could get back to 1902 01:28:40.359 --> 01:28:42.520 more of that instead of some of the toxicity that 1903 01:28:42.600 --> 01:28:45.600 comes with sports. Especially now you know where I fill 1904 01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:47.520 in on radio and do that and do more play 1905 01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:47.960 by play. 1906 01:28:48.279 --> 01:28:50.000 I've been able to really. 1907 01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:52.560 Absorb more into the beauty of what makes sports sports 1908 01:28:52.640 --> 01:28:53.920 and why we love our team. 1909 01:28:53.720 --> 01:28:56.399 And one of the reasons why something like a stadium 1910 01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:58.000 movie is a big deal to a lot of people. 1911 01:28:59.439 --> 01:29:01.279 It hits you in the heart, you know, to gets 1912 01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:04.279 you when you've grown up during these games, because that's 1913 01:29:04.279 --> 01:29:06.960 where your memories exist. And I remember going to Be's 1914 01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:09.439 games with my with my grandfather and all these all 1915 01:29:09.479 --> 01:29:12.560 these games, and it's ultimately, you know, it is the 1916 01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:14.840 toy Isle, but it's a it's a it's a great 1917 01:29:14.840 --> 01:29:19.319 way to connect generation after generation. We'll do a let's 1918 01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:21.920 do a big college football segment coming up next. I 1919 01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:23.359 want to do some Utah football. I want to do 1920 01:29:23.399 --> 01:29:26.000 some BYU football, some Big twelve stuff. But we got 1921 01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:28.560 a couple of minutes here, so let's do a scoch 1922 01:29:29.239 --> 01:29:32.720 of jazz basketball. A scosh Tony, just a scosh Okay. 1923 01:29:33.800 --> 01:29:37.359 So Bowler rolled in the studio last week. Craig and 1924 01:29:37.479 --> 01:29:39.439 Gordon come on the show once a week for an hour, 1925 01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:41.039 call it the Big Show, Big Hour. It's fun to 1926 01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:44.920 be reunited with those guys. And bless his heart. We 1927 01:29:44.920 --> 01:29:47.159 were going over the depth chart and I was asking 1928 01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:49.239 him what he's watching out for, and as he was 1929 01:29:49.359 --> 01:29:52.479 naming the names of the players most likely in the rotation, 1930 01:29:52.760 --> 01:29:56.279 I'm just like, well, good luck calling those games foul. 1931 01:29:56.359 --> 01:29:59.279 So I mean, look, ultimately, we all know the deal. Okay. 1932 01:29:59.399 --> 01:30:01.680 And as I saying you off air, Danny Ainge has 1933 01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:04.079 a track record. Danny does not need me to stand 1934 01:30:04.119 --> 01:30:06.359 up for him. Okay. His resume is out there, you 1935 01:30:06.399 --> 01:30:08.239 can go look at it. And the fact of the 1936 01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:11.960 matter is things like this take time. Here's the issue, Tony, 1937 01:30:11.960 --> 01:30:16.079 as I see it, Vegas over underwins right now in 1938 01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:18.840 the NBA in the Western Conference, because you remember we 1939 01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:21.680 were both working over there during the Mitchell Gobert, Quinn 1940 01:30:21.760 --> 01:30:26.640 Dennis Lindsay ingles like that whole thing. And so the 1941 01:30:26.680 --> 01:30:31.199 walking line at the time was we hope we're in 1942 01:30:31.239 --> 01:30:36.239 a spot to capitalize on a window that opens when 1943 01:30:36.319 --> 01:30:39.199 Golden State is kind of done and Lebron is a 1944 01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:41.920 little bit older and maybe Kawhi has aged out. Like 1945 01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:45.079 when that happens, we hope to be in the spot 1946 01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:47.000 to be the team with the players in their prime 1947 01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:50.760 to maybe win something special. Now here's the issue. Vegas 1948 01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:57.479 over underwins OKC one, Minnesota two. You're looking at this point, 1949 01:30:58.600 --> 01:31:06.439 Dallas three. Let's see here, Pelicans, Kings, Grizzlies with jaw back, 1950 01:31:07.119 --> 01:31:10.199 and then you get into there's the Kings, then it's 1951 01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:12.600 the Lakers, then it's the excuse me, the Suns. Then 1952 01:31:12.640 --> 01:31:15.479 it's the Lakers, and it's the Warriors, and then it's 1953 01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:19.079 the Spurs. Then it's the Rockets and the final two. 1954 01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:21.079 The only two teams that are not thought to be 1955 01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:24.119 close to competing for a playoff spot in the West 1956 01:31:24.119 --> 01:31:27.239 are the Jazz and the Trailblazers. Those are the only 1957 01:31:27.279 --> 01:31:29.760 two bad quote unquote bad teams according to what the 1958 01:31:29.760 --> 01:31:32.840 odds tell us in the Western Conference. Here's where the 1959 01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:38.000 issue comes in. Okac is not going anywhere forever. They're awesome, 1960 01:31:38.039 --> 01:31:41.279 and they're young. Jokic still in his twenties. Michael Porter 1961 01:31:41.359 --> 01:31:43.840 Junior is still young. Jamal Murray. If you can get 1962 01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:46.520 back like Denver still has a runway of four or 1963 01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:49.800 five years, SODA's Minnesota. You can make an argument that 1964 01:31:49.840 --> 01:31:53.319 the Pelicans do that, the Kings do so. Now then 1965 01:31:53.760 --> 01:31:57.119 seven of the eight top teams in the West are 1966 01:31:57.199 --> 01:32:00.960 better than the Jazz, and they're also young. So the 1967 01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:02.840 window and this is kind of how you have to 1968 01:32:02.920 --> 01:32:05.359 view the whole thing in pro basketball. When will a 1969 01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:08.760 window open? And can we formulate our roster construction to 1970 01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:12.079 be there when that window opens. Now the window is 1971 01:32:12.119 --> 01:32:15.880 like seven or eight years away, barring something completely unforeseen. 1972 01:32:15.960 --> 01:32:20.039 I just don't see the direction forward to serious competition 1973 01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:22.600 Tony anytime soon. If it is so, First of. 1974 01:32:22.600 --> 01:32:25.960 All, you're right, there is a Danny Ainge is playing 1975 01:32:25.960 --> 01:32:27.880 the long game. You don't have to be okay with it. 1976 01:32:27.960 --> 01:32:29.800 I've also said you don't have to pour money into 1977 01:32:29.800 --> 01:32:31.079 it as a fan. If you don't want to, that 1978 01:32:31.159 --> 01:32:33.279 is your chance. That is your choice. You are not 1979 01:32:33.439 --> 01:32:35.239 any less of a fan if you don't. By the way, 1980 01:32:35.439 --> 01:32:37.439 if you say cool, I'll wait for the long game 1981 01:32:37.880 --> 01:32:40.560 and I'll put my money into it. When things seem 1982 01:32:40.640 --> 01:32:42.920 to be more of the approach that this team is 1983 01:32:42.920 --> 01:32:45.439 a threat, there's nothing wrong with that as a fan, nothing. 1984 01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:45.680 Wrong with that. 1985 01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:48.439 This can't be a process though, where you just simply 1986 01:32:48.439 --> 01:32:50.760 wait for everyone else to get worse. So is that 1987 01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:53.640 kind of is the described way that you're talking about 1988 01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:55.680 that can't be it? Well, you have to believe in 1989 01:32:56.359 --> 01:32:58.800 is your ability to identify the best players that make 1990 01:32:58.840 --> 01:33:03.439 the difference between being respectable threatening an elite eventually. Now 1991 01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:06.039 they believed in that process before Danny Age did it, 1992 01:33:06.279 --> 01:33:09.520 and he was right, Tatum Brown, we can go on 1993 01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:11.439 and on and on with the other names. And they 1994 01:33:11.479 --> 01:33:13.479 threatened for a good number of years. Now, that was 1995 01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:16.720 a twelve year process, and for the first four years, 1996 01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:18.680 I want to say, not a whole heck of a 1997 01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:22.479 lot happening. Remember, they flushed out, they got a bunch 1998 01:33:22.479 --> 01:33:26.520 of picks, they started over. Okay, the payoff is a 1999 01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:29.760 ring and maybe more. I don't know if it's gonna 2000 01:33:29.800 --> 01:33:31.319 take twelve. I don't know if it's gonna take eight. 2001 01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:33.079 I don't know if it's gonna take I don't know. 2002 01:33:33.159 --> 01:33:35.279 But what I do know is they have a belief 2003 01:33:35.359 --> 01:33:38.680 in their ability with the process to identify those players, 2004 01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:41.680 get them in and create the situation and the circumstance 2005 01:33:41.960 --> 01:33:45.640 that gives them that championship level success. He has the 2006 01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:48.760 track record to prove it, but what it takes is time. 2007 01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:51.760 Because what he did in Boston by quickly making trades 2008 01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:53.640 and then winning the title in eight, he did it 2009 01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:55.479 that way. I think it's gonna be tougher to do 2010 01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:57.359 something like that in Salt Lake City. With this, with 2011 01:33:57.399 --> 01:33:59.199 free agency and all that, I think you're gonna have 2012 01:33:59.199 --> 01:34:00.760 to go with your draft. You're gonna have to go 2013 01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:03.039 with your guys, you're gonna have to be very selective 2014 01:34:03.640 --> 01:34:05.920 and you have got to hit more than you miss, 2015 01:34:06.680 --> 01:34:08.359 because you're not gonna be bat a thousand, But you 2016 01:34:08.399 --> 01:34:09.640 gotta kind of be Reggie Jackson. 2017 01:34:09.640 --> 01:34:12.000 When you barrel one up, you really barrel one up. 2018 01:34:12.680 --> 01:34:15.399 And Danny Ain't just proven that while he does not 2019 01:34:15.399 --> 01:34:17.920 bat a thousand, he can have more strikes than he 2020 01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:21.319 does gutters. And so that's what this is that we 2021 01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:23.520 and I love that you've just been very honest about 2022 01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:26.960 what this is. So you, as a fan, you don't 2023 01:34:26.960 --> 01:34:29.399 have to be okay with it now, but at least 2024 01:34:29.399 --> 01:34:30.760 be honest with what it could. 2025 01:34:30.479 --> 01:34:32.920 Pay off to be later. Yeah. So in the immediate now, 2026 01:34:33.039 --> 01:34:36.640 no no, yeah, no, well, well well said, so the hope, 2027 01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:40.439 the sincere hope, truly, And I don't really know that 2028 01:34:40.520 --> 01:34:43.760 I'm ready to emphatically anoint or dismiss in any of 2029 01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:47.720 these young players. Does Cody get stronger, quicker? Is he 2030 01:34:48.239 --> 01:34:50.560 able to take contact? Can he score on all three levels? 2031 01:34:50.600 --> 01:34:53.159 Does he look like a promising young player? Does Kyante 2032 01:34:54.119 --> 01:34:55.920 he had the countess stuff? We won't do a lot 2033 01:34:55.920 --> 01:34:57.760 of time on this County stuff is really interesting to 2034 01:34:57.760 --> 01:34:59.479 me because there are moments where I'm like, yeah, all right, 2035 01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:01.119 that's real, right, And then there are a lot of 2036 01:35:01.119 --> 01:35:03.319 moments where I'm just like, I don't know that he 2037 01:35:03.319 --> 01:35:05.920 can run a team. At least at this age, he 2038 01:35:06.279 --> 01:35:08.680 has not shown his ability to be a lead guard. 2039 01:35:09.039 --> 01:35:11.159 Does he show that ability this year? Here's what you got? 2040 01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:14.000 You got marketing and he's awesome. Okay, Yeah, so he's 2041 01:35:14.039 --> 01:35:16.319 the one you found throughout the course of everything you 2042 01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:18.680 gave up. And I've always been the one guy yelling 2043 01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:20.600 into the void about the go bear deal. Okay, because 2044 01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:22.239 I saw Rudy impact winning here in a way that 2045 01:35:22.279 --> 01:35:25.560 he's impacted in Minnesota. And yes, they got a haul, 2046 01:35:25.640 --> 01:35:27.760 but what does that turn into? And we still don't know. 2047 01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:32.960 So do we see something excuse me, that we're not 2048 01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:35.640 expecting from an Isaiah Collier? You get my point? Like, 2049 01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:38.520 does one of the young players popping away we're not expecting. 2050 01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:42.199 Yeah, I think that's something that can happen, will eventually happen. 2051 01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:43.520 You're gonna have progress. 2052 01:35:43.920 --> 01:35:45.640 The key point is how much progress do you have 2053 01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:49.239 with some of those guys and what will happen with 2054 01:35:49.560 --> 01:35:52.039 Danny Ainge is I do believe there's a shorter release 2055 01:35:52.039 --> 01:35:54.479 than people would think with him, it's a hell yes, 2056 01:35:54.600 --> 01:35:56.680 or it's to know. And I do think fans should 2057 01:35:56.720 --> 01:35:58.800 like that because he is quick to make those moves. 2058 01:35:58.840 --> 01:36:00.880 You were the first point that out when he first arrived. 2059 01:36:01.039 --> 01:36:02.920 You were like, this is what's great about this. If 2060 01:36:02.960 --> 01:36:05.079 he sees it's not gonna work. He's moving right away. 2061 01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:07.159 He's moving, he's not playing the Dante x him. Hey, 2062 01:36:07.199 --> 01:36:09.079 let's you know see how this and you know he's 2063 01:36:09.119 --> 01:36:10.920 so young and he's so and it just it's the 2064 01:36:10.920 --> 01:36:11.520 same story. 2065 01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:13.399 It's the same crap. It's a different diaper, and it's 2066 01:36:13.439 --> 01:36:13.880 over and over. 2067 01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:16.520 No, no, no, no, no, it is Is this getting us 2068 01:36:16.520 --> 01:36:17.199 where we want to go? 2069 01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:17.520 No? 2070 01:36:17.840 --> 01:36:20.920 Out, can this get us where we want to go? Yes, 2071 01:36:21.479 --> 01:36:23.960 Let's continue to process and develop. We're not gonna hang 2072 01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:24.840 on to Alec Burk's longer. 2073 01:36:24.920 --> 01:36:25.239 We should. 2074 01:36:25.239 --> 01:36:27.199 We're not gonna hang on to Dante ex longer we should. 2075 01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:31.279 And so that it sounds ruthless, it sounds like incredibly 2076 01:36:33.359 --> 01:36:36.159 I don't want to say small money like somebody would think, Man, 2077 01:36:36.199 --> 01:36:37.000 that's so impatient. 2078 01:36:37.439 --> 01:36:38.920 You're in a league where you can't wait. 2079 01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:40.920 You can wait and play the long game with the 2080 01:36:40.920 --> 01:36:43.079 big picture to win the title. But you can't play 2081 01:36:43.079 --> 01:36:45.199 the long game with something that you don't see getting 2082 01:36:45.239 --> 01:36:47.760 good enough fast enough. And he has to be able 2083 01:36:47.800 --> 01:36:49.840 to believe that he can identify what that is. No 2084 01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:52.680 one he's wrong when he's wrong, and move Danny Ainge. 2085 01:36:52.840 --> 01:36:54.720 I give him a lot of credit. He's been that 2086 01:36:54.760 --> 01:36:56.239 way his whole career, and he's going to be that 2087 01:36:56.279 --> 01:36:56.680 way with this. 2088 01:36:56.840 --> 01:37:00.279 Yeah, Danny understands sun cost fallacy unlike all to any 2089 01:37:00.319 --> 01:37:02.920 other NBAHGM like when it's time to move on, it's 2090 01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:05.359 time to move on. I do wonder what this means 2091 01:37:05.359 --> 01:37:08.319 for Will Hardy, who's in year three, who is a 2092 01:37:08.439 --> 01:37:11.159 very proud guy who wants to win basketball games. But 2093 01:37:11.279 --> 01:37:13.680 he's being paid handsomely. He's obviously part of the plan. 2094 01:37:14.319 --> 01:37:16.359 I just have a hard time seeing this turn into 2095 01:37:16.359 --> 01:37:18.039 anything really exciting anytime soon. 2096 01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:20.039 I hope that they can give him what he needs 2097 01:37:20.079 --> 01:37:22.359 going for because I do believe culturally he's doing a 2098 01:37:22.359 --> 01:37:24.399 lot of great things. I do believe systematically, I think 2099 01:37:24.439 --> 01:37:26.479 he's a great basketball mind. I'm not just saying this 2100 01:37:26.479 --> 01:37:28.119 because I've had a chance to watch it up close 2101 01:37:28.119 --> 01:37:30.760 and see what's developing. I hope that they can say, hey, 2102 01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:32.680 you've been a part of this process as we were 2103 01:37:32.720 --> 01:37:34.680 going through the pain tolerance. He deserves to be a 2104 01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:36.399 part of the process to give it a chance to 2105 01:37:36.439 --> 01:37:37.159 see them thrive. 2106 01:37:38.319 --> 01:37:40.560 Yeah, let's hope you gets some players because there's a 2107 01:37:40.600 --> 01:37:42.520 reason he wanted them to trade for Dame Liller. I 2108 01:37:42.560 --> 01:37:44.560 can tell you that, all right. I want to tell 2109 01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:46.520 you by my friends at Prize Picks. Prize Picks is 2110 01:37:46.560 --> 01:37:49.359 America's number one daily fantasy sports app with over five 2111 01:37:49.399 --> 01:37:51.880 million active members. All you do is pick more or 2112 01:37:51.920 --> 01:37:54.199 less on two to six player staff projections and watch 2113 01:37:54.199 --> 01:37:57.239 the winnings roll in. I want to emphasize more or 2114 01:37:57.319 --> 01:38:00.000 less on two to six player staff projections. 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Real quick, Tony, 2144 01:39:23.520 --> 01:39:26.720 what's your opinion on I caught some strays today because 2145 01:39:26.760 --> 01:39:29.479 during cross talk with Sean, Sean O'Connell's hosting our midday 2146 01:39:29.479 --> 01:39:32.720 show now, he was giving away Disney on Ice tickets 2147 01:39:33.159 --> 01:39:35.279 and he said something along the lines of, well, if 2148 01:39:35.279 --> 01:39:36.720 you have kids, this will be great. Then he said, well, 2149 01:39:36.800 --> 01:39:39.399 even if you don't have kids, you should go. That's 2150 01:39:39.479 --> 01:39:44.000 a whole lot of second and I was too aggressive 2151 01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:47.119 with my opinion, as you know me, as I want 2152 01:39:47.159 --> 01:39:49.720 to do from time to time. I guess this is 2153 01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:51.359 where I'll settle on it because I was a little 2154 01:39:51.359 --> 01:39:58.840 aggressive earlier. I don't fully understand Disney adults like you 2155 01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:00.960 don't have kids in your calling up your group of 2156 01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:02.680 friends and you're like, dude, what are you doing the 2157 01:40:02.720 --> 01:40:05.279 third week of October, Let's roll to Disney for like 2158 01:40:05.319 --> 01:40:08.359 a week. Bro, Let's crush a little small world. It's 2159 01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:10.720 hop on space, like you know what I mean. I 2160 01:40:10.880 --> 01:40:13.920 hear you say it loud. I'm not judging, but it's 2161 01:40:13.960 --> 01:40:16.439 just not my thing. And I am a father, as 2162 01:40:16.439 --> 01:40:18.800 you know, and I've had wonderful times with my son, 2163 01:40:19.640 --> 01:40:23.439 my young son at Disney World and on Disney cruises. 2164 01:40:23.439 --> 01:40:25.720 But the way I phrased it earlier, I caught some pushback. 2165 01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:27.680 People were saying I was being too harsh. What's your 2166 01:40:28.399 --> 01:40:32.119 not not on adult that likes Disney movies? What's your 2167 01:40:32.159 --> 01:40:35.159 opinion on adult who multiple times a year spends thousands 2168 01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:37.960 of dollars with his or her friends to take week 2169 01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:41.840 long vacations at Disney resorts without children? Okay, I am 2170 01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:44.640 not a hater on Disney adult fan. I'm not. 2171 01:40:44.920 --> 01:40:47.560 I'm not no hate, I'm not okay, but you better 2172 01:40:47.600 --> 01:40:50.159 get out of the way when something for the kids 2173 01:40:50.520 --> 01:40:52.600 ever comes up, and you better let them have the 2174 01:40:52.640 --> 01:40:55.000 front row seat, and you better let them go first, and. 2175 01:40:54.920 --> 01:40:56.039 You better make it about them. 2176 01:40:56.600 --> 01:40:59.479 But you ever take too long with I don't care 2177 01:40:59.479 --> 01:41:02.039 if it's a store her worst character or or if 2178 01:41:02.039 --> 01:41:05.439 it's Rapunzel or whatever. You better make sure that it 2179 01:41:05.520 --> 01:41:07.720 is first and foremost for them, because that's who this 2180 01:41:07.840 --> 01:41:10.560 is for. So Nat and I did Disney on Nice once. 2181 01:41:11.319 --> 01:41:13.880 We ended up getting tickets and it was just her 2182 01:41:13.920 --> 01:41:14.119 and I. 2183 01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:14.960 Uh. 2184 01:41:15.319 --> 01:41:20.399 And it also was shortly used, probably three months after 2185 01:41:20.439 --> 01:41:23.119 our oldest daughter was born, and so there was there 2186 01:41:23.119 --> 01:41:25.399 was a little more to it, you know, And so 2187 01:41:25.479 --> 01:41:27.600 we went there and I remember being there with my 2188 01:41:27.640 --> 01:41:29.720 wife and the first thing we did. I mean, all 2189 01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:31.640 these families have all these little kids, and our seats 2190 01:41:31.680 --> 01:41:33.479 were supposed to be at the front row of this suite, 2191 01:41:33.960 --> 01:41:36.359 and we were like, uh huh, all the kids go 2192 01:41:36.439 --> 01:41:38.520 up there. And we sat back on the barstools and 2193 01:41:38.880 --> 01:41:40.279 you know, sat up at the table and had a 2194 01:41:40.319 --> 01:41:43.159 good time. But we made sure every prize that was 2195 01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:45.279 given out, we gave it to one of them. Like 2196 01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:48.279 anything that was given Ah, it is for them. So 2197 01:41:48.319 --> 01:41:50.840 as long as you keep that part in mind. I'm 2198 01:41:50.880 --> 01:41:53.399 all about I. I I not for me, Like I'm 2199 01:41:53.399 --> 01:41:56.279 not dropping a bunch of money on Disney. My sister's 2200 01:41:56.319 --> 01:41:58.840 big Disney adult fan, and now she you know, she 2201 01:41:58.880 --> 01:42:00.520 has a daughter and stuff, and so it's great. But 2202 01:42:01.199 --> 01:42:03.560 I'm not a hater on them. But just make sure 2203 01:42:03.600 --> 01:42:06.239 you don't impede on any child's experience. 2204 01:42:06.640 --> 01:42:10.159 If there's limited tickets, they get the ticket. Okay. It's 2205 01:42:10.199 --> 01:42:12.680 good life advice in a much more serious tone than 2206 01:42:12.680 --> 01:42:15.479 I was expecting. Bro. I'll meet you at Dumbo the 2207 01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:17.880 Dumbo ride, and then let's hit up pirates and go 2208 01:42:17.920 --> 01:42:20.000 to the Jungle Crew like you know what I mean. Yes, 2209 01:42:20.479 --> 01:42:23.319 it's so expensive. You could do others anyway. Off my 2210 01:42:23.359 --> 01:42:26.199 soapb not for me. Not for me either, Tony Parks 2211 01:42:26.199 --> 01:42:29.039 live in studio. All right, we got we had some 2212 01:42:29.119 --> 01:42:31.600 time here, so let's see you into some college football storylines. 2213 01:42:32.079 --> 01:42:34.159 And I gotta say, man, I think Isaac Wilson answered 2214 01:42:34.159 --> 01:42:37.319 a lot of questions on Saturday. We learned the lesson 2215 01:42:37.359 --> 01:42:39.239 around here last year of what it can look like, 2216 01:42:39.880 --> 01:42:42.800 not just without your starter, but without your backup. Cam 2217 01:42:42.920 --> 01:42:45.600 was hurt last year, so was Brandon Rose. And I 2218 01:42:45.640 --> 01:42:48.560 said after the Baylor game, I said, okay, Isaac's the two. 2219 01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:50.399 You know, you guys know your team way better than 2220 01:42:50.399 --> 01:42:53.319 any of us do. So Isaac's the two. If he's 2221 01:42:53.359 --> 01:42:55.319 the two, it had to look better than it did 2222 01:42:55.359 --> 01:42:58.720 against Baylor. Now, Dave Randa, as we all know around here, 2223 01:42:58.920 --> 01:43:01.640 is a defensive savants. I mean, that's how he's made 2224 01:43:01.640 --> 01:43:04.680 his way in the business. So I'm sure Baylor schematically 2225 01:43:04.720 --> 01:43:07.560 was something that Isaac wasn't used to. But Utah stayed 2226 01:43:07.640 --> 01:43:09.760 up in the logan is probably the most hostile environment 2227 01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:11.479 that young man's ever played in front of I know 2228 01:43:11.800 --> 01:43:14.439 corner Canny gets some big crowds, but I was proud 2229 01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:14.680 of him. 2230 01:43:14.680 --> 01:43:14.800 Man. 2231 01:43:14.800 --> 01:43:16.560 I thought he stepped up. I thought he met the moment. 2232 01:43:16.640 --> 01:43:18.119 I thought he answered a lot of questions. What do 2233 01:43:18.199 --> 01:43:19.840 you make of what we saw from Isaac on Saturday? 2234 01:43:19.920 --> 01:43:22.680 Isaac Wilson is much better than most true freshman quarterbacks, 2235 01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:25.319 and by a mile by the way, He's going to 2236 01:43:25.359 --> 01:43:28.079 get exponentially better as the year goes on. The question 2237 01:43:28.199 --> 01:43:30.479 is how good is he going to get and how fast? 2238 01:43:30.560 --> 01:43:33.439 And which games are going to be the ones where 2239 01:43:33.439 --> 01:43:36.800 the wheels wobble at all, where you know, film crew 2240 01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:39.760 or scouts try to catch up to him from each team, right, 2241 01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:41.439 that being coaching staffs when. 2242 01:43:41.319 --> 01:43:43.159 They're preparing for him. 2243 01:43:43.279 --> 01:43:46.079 But the big one for this Saturday, the big question is, okay, 2244 01:43:46.079 --> 01:43:47.199 Isaac Wilson will kind of jump? 2245 01:43:47.279 --> 01:43:49.119 Is he going to take? I think this game is 2246 01:43:49.119 --> 01:43:49.520 going to be. 2247 01:43:49.439 --> 01:43:52.720 Decided by the offensive line of Utah playing and simple. 2248 01:43:53.560 --> 01:43:56.479 This is a Kyle Whittingham game on Saturday. This isn't 2249 01:43:56.479 --> 01:43:58.359 an Isaac Wilson game. This is a Kyle Whittingham game. 2250 01:43:58.359 --> 01:44:02.319 This is where your team is coming along, right, They're 2251 01:44:02.319 --> 01:44:05.359 taking quality strides and I give this team some credit, 2252 01:44:05.439 --> 01:44:07.680 as some Kyle Whittingham teams in some of these recent 2253 01:44:07.680 --> 01:44:10.399 previous years kind of started a bit slow, like maybe 2254 01:44:10.399 --> 01:44:12.520 got away with the win where they didn't play all 2255 01:44:12.560 --> 01:44:15.399 that well. Slow start to that game against Utah State, 2256 01:44:15.439 --> 01:44:17.159 But those last three quarters, I really liked the way 2257 01:44:17.199 --> 01:44:19.960 the old line grinded and the way they started pushing bodies, 2258 01:44:19.960 --> 01:44:22.640 the way they started executing, the way they started smashing. 2259 01:44:23.079 --> 01:44:25.479 If they play like that in this game, but they 2260 01:44:25.560 --> 01:44:27.880 got to do it for four quarters. If they win 2261 01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:30.600 it up front, especially against the way they line up defensively, 2262 01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:33.399 they get to dictate the terms. Life is much easier 2263 01:44:33.439 --> 01:44:37.319 on Isaac Wilson and suddenly Utah with Kyle Whittingham, who 2264 01:44:37.359 --> 01:44:38.720 knows how to get the best out of what any 2265 01:44:38.800 --> 01:44:42.039 situation happens to be. If that happens, they win this game, 2266 01:44:42.399 --> 01:44:45.039 this type of game. There's so many games people are 2267 01:44:45.039 --> 01:44:48.000 going to remember about Kyle Whittingham, and they're gonna remember 2268 01:44:48.000 --> 01:44:49.960 the Sugar Bowl, and they're gonna remember some you know, 2269 01:44:50.520 --> 01:44:53.720 landmark victories. To me, it's the at Washington State a 2270 01:44:53.720 --> 01:44:56.199 few years ago, where you find out your starting quarterbacks 2271 01:44:56.199 --> 01:44:57.520 not gonna play and you find a way to win 2272 01:44:57.920 --> 01:45:01.600 it's the home against USC where you're down big like 2273 01:45:01.600 --> 01:45:04.640 that you find a way to win. It's the Travis 2274 01:45:04.640 --> 01:45:08.359 Wilson at home against USC where you barely scored anything 2275 01:45:08.359 --> 01:45:10.920 on offense, but you keep it close and you win 2276 01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:12.399 at the end USC last year. I know, I'm just 2277 01:45:12.399 --> 01:45:15.399 pointing out USC games, but there's several of them that 2278 01:45:15.479 --> 01:45:16.800 we can go to where it's like. 2279 01:45:16.840 --> 01:45:18.920 Man, oh, they won that game. 2280 01:45:19.359 --> 01:45:21.159 A hell of a job, and you look at the 2281 01:45:21.199 --> 01:45:23.960 work of coaching and some of the guys that come 2282 01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:26.479 through and help you in the win at home against 2283 01:45:26.520 --> 01:45:29.159 BYU in twenty twelve, it was the field storming game. 2284 01:45:29.319 --> 01:45:31.760 That was a Kyle Whittingham game. Your longest drives for 2285 01:45:31.800 --> 01:45:34.840 a touchdown were seventeen yards and thirty nine yards. You 2286 01:45:34.920 --> 01:45:36.720 found a way to win with John Hayes like that 2287 01:45:36.880 --> 01:45:41.159 was dude, that was some work. Yeah, And it's it's interesting. 2288 01:45:41.239 --> 01:45:43.600 I was thinking about this through the prism, like I'm 2289 01:45:43.600 --> 01:45:47.199 watching Chiefs Bengals, and I'm like, Chiefs will figure it out. 2290 01:45:47.239 --> 01:45:51.159 They're gonna win somehow, someway right, And I never fully 2291 01:45:51.439 --> 01:45:54.600 and you probably experienced the same thing because on Saturday, 2292 01:45:54.720 --> 01:45:58.840 I said this. On Friday, that Utah State game had 2293 01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:02.199 some of the tricky dynamics of what an upset game 2294 01:46:02.239 --> 01:46:05.319 could encapsulate. And I say this every Monday. One of 2295 01:46:05.359 --> 01:46:07.279 the reasons I love college football so much is the 2296 01:46:07.359 --> 01:46:10.760 unpredictable nature of it, and really good teams get got 2297 01:46:10.840 --> 01:46:14.720 every week, and Utah rarely gets got in a scenario 2298 01:46:14.720 --> 01:46:18.079 where they're not supposed to lose. So unless there is 2299 01:46:18.720 --> 01:46:22.279 a cataclysmic injury situation like there was a year ago, 2300 01:46:22.600 --> 01:46:24.680 which made last year a moot point, I don't even 2301 01:46:24.720 --> 01:46:27.039 reference it. It's a miracle that got to eight. I 2302 01:46:27.039 --> 01:46:29.760 thought that was a great coaching job. More often than not, 2303 01:46:29.840 --> 01:46:32.199 when Utah football is supposed to win a game, they 2304 01:46:32.279 --> 01:46:35.359 win a game. He very rarely gets got when he's 2305 01:46:35.359 --> 01:46:39.039 not supposed to get got. So I view Saturday ultimately 2306 01:46:39.119 --> 01:46:43.319 as a massive success because you handled your business and 2307 01:46:43.359 --> 01:46:46.039 it was never fully uncomfortable. I mean, they go down 2308 01:46:46.039 --> 01:46:48.560 fourteen three. But I always get such a kick out 2309 01:46:48.600 --> 01:46:51.439 of football fans who in the first and second quarter 2310 01:46:51.560 --> 01:46:54.279 are tweeting like they're about to jump off their roof. 2311 01:46:54.399 --> 01:46:57.000 I mean, it's the first quarter. You can't be up 2312 01:46:57.039 --> 01:46:59.800 a million to three after one, Like, give it some time. 2313 01:47:00.159 --> 01:47:02.800 Just see Bears fans in the city. Oh sure, they're sure, 2314 01:47:03.399 --> 01:47:06.199 But it was a combination of to your point, just 2315 01:47:06.279 --> 01:47:09.800 a do your job, work ethic coach, wit win. Okay, 2316 01:47:09.880 --> 01:47:12.399 let's not get God here, Let's not get let's not 2317 01:47:12.439 --> 01:47:14.520 get stung by an end state team when a lot 2318 01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:16.680 of their players probably want to play for Utah. You 2319 01:47:16.760 --> 01:47:19.560 know they're going to show up against a CFP contender 2320 01:47:19.600 --> 01:47:21.359 to put good tape out there, and some of them 2321 01:47:21.439 --> 01:47:24.479 did for their pro careers, Like, let's not get God here. 2322 01:47:25.159 --> 01:47:28.399 So that's simply put showing up getting to win when 2323 01:47:28.399 --> 01:47:31.239 it never was fully in doubt. It just wasn't but 2324 01:47:31.319 --> 01:47:33.920 then to know because look, Tony, I know you're not 2325 01:47:33.960 --> 01:47:36.960 a gambler, but if I called you, I said, hey, 2326 01:47:37.159 --> 01:47:39.920 you have no choice but to put the Tony Park 2327 01:47:40.039 --> 01:47:43.520 paycheck from any of your seventy million jobs on the line, 2328 01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:46.600 and the bet is will came rising play every game 2329 01:47:46.640 --> 01:47:49.800 this season. Who is going to bet on that? Like, 2330 01:47:50.399 --> 01:47:52.359 I don't want him to get hurt, and we want 2331 01:47:52.399 --> 01:47:54.800 to see camp play all year. But I think it's 2332 01:47:54.840 --> 01:47:58.239 fair to say that there's a really good chance that 2333 01:47:58.399 --> 01:48:01.359 Utah is going to need Isaac in a pretty tricky 2334 01:48:01.359 --> 01:48:04.720 spot in conference play, because what's the confidence level. The 2335 01:48:04.760 --> 01:48:06.640 Cameron's just going to be under center all year. It's 2336 01:48:06.640 --> 01:48:07.520 hard to have that right now. 2337 01:48:07.560 --> 01:48:09.199 No, it really is hard to have that. So you 2338 01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:12.840 need Isaac to just continue to progress. And I love 2339 01:48:12.880 --> 01:48:14.439 this kid. I loved the first time I ever saw 2340 01:48:14.439 --> 01:48:17.079 Isaac Wilson. He's playing in a game against Loam Peak 2341 01:48:17.479 --> 01:48:19.560 and this is a sophomore game, so by no means 2342 01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:20.600 it says varsity whatever. 2343 01:48:20.640 --> 01:48:22.880 He's a freshman. It's early in the season. 2344 01:48:23.159 --> 01:48:27.239 And he throws a really bad interception before halftime, and 2345 01:48:27.279 --> 01:48:29.159 I mean, the coaching staff is just all over him. 2346 01:48:29.199 --> 01:48:31.680 I mean, he was okay to be coached hard, and 2347 01:48:31.760 --> 01:48:33.640 he took it on the chin and he owned it. 2348 01:48:34.039 --> 01:48:35.560 He came out in the second half, they were down 2349 01:48:35.600 --> 01:48:38.039 like seventeen eight minutes to go, and he rallied him 2350 01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:39.640 back to win that game, and he made throws that 2351 01:48:39.680 --> 01:48:42.279 were just insane, and I remember being like, this dude 2352 01:48:42.319 --> 01:48:42.600 is tough. 2353 01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:45.560 His name Wilson. Kids can sling it, oh man, no 2354 01:48:45.600 --> 01:48:46.319 doubt about that. 2355 01:48:46.399 --> 01:48:49.880 As a Jets I watched him from each piece of 2356 01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:52.760 that not just grow a little bit, but grow so fast, 2357 01:48:52.800 --> 01:48:54.960 so quickly. And I understand college football is a different deal. 2358 01:48:55.000 --> 01:48:58.279 I'm not saying a sophomore high school experience is truly 2359 01:48:58.319 --> 01:49:01.680 what's going to represent his whole but his mindset and 2360 01:49:01.720 --> 01:49:03.800 also where he comes from and a family that has 2361 01:49:03.800 --> 01:49:04.840 played at high levels. 2362 01:49:05.399 --> 01:49:07.760 You can see that he absorbs things quite quickly. 2363 01:49:07.960 --> 01:49:10.039 And then you have a coaching staff who's great at 2364 01:49:10.399 --> 01:49:14.560 managing problem solving and Jason Bennetti said it last year 2365 01:49:14.560 --> 01:49:16.159 and that came against the USC. Is there a program 2366 01:49:16.199 --> 01:49:19.039 that's better a problem solving No, there's not. So then 2367 01:49:19.079 --> 01:49:21.760 you have all these ingredients with a chance for him 2368 01:49:21.800 --> 01:49:24.000 to excel. I'm not saying he's going to hit all 2369 01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:26.000 American level this next week, but I think he'll take 2370 01:49:26.239 --> 01:49:29.439 a very good stride forward, and if that offensive line 2371 01:49:29.439 --> 01:49:31.439 can play like they did during those final three weeks, 2372 01:49:31.760 --> 01:49:33.399 I think they have a chance to have a great 2373 01:49:33.640 --> 01:49:36.880 victory in Stillwater. Now, there's still plenty of variables. You 2374 01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:40.199 got to perform right. You have to execute. You can't 2375 01:49:40.239 --> 01:49:41.840 come out there on the road and get off to 2376 01:49:41.880 --> 01:49:44.680 a slow start. You can't feel your way into this game. 2377 01:49:44.720 --> 01:49:46.960 You can't take what the defense gives you. No, you 2378 01:49:47.039 --> 01:49:49.279 just got to go get it. And that old line 2379 01:49:49.439 --> 01:49:52.319 can make life a lot easier on a QB in Wilson, 2380 01:49:52.319 --> 01:49:54.840 who I think has great skills and talent. By the way, 2381 01:49:55.119 --> 01:49:57.640 you now have I think a great weapon on third down, 2382 01:49:57.720 --> 01:50:00.680 red zone, cold Weather another one and say just one 2383 01:50:00.720 --> 01:50:03.840 but loner going up and getting the ball and Wilson 2384 01:50:03.840 --> 01:50:07.119 with great touch, like that's that's fabulous. That's a great sign. 2385 01:50:07.640 --> 01:50:11.119 So this is all formulating and coming together. And if 2386 01:50:11.119 --> 01:50:13.079 this is that week where I think they polish it 2387 01:50:13.079 --> 01:50:14.239 for four quarters. 2388 01:50:14.079 --> 01:50:16.359 They win this game. And I just think it was 2389 01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:19.760 so good for the fan base to see a dynamic 2390 01:50:19.800 --> 01:50:23.039 in place. And look, Oklahoma State will be a different challenge. 2391 01:50:23.079 --> 01:50:27.239 And if Isaac has to play on a random Saturday, 2392 01:50:27.279 --> 01:50:29.199 a road game in a hostile Big twelve environment, then 2393 01:50:29.199 --> 01:50:30.560 we're gonna see he's made of because this is a 2394 01:50:30.560 --> 01:50:33.520 different thing. I'm not saying it's not. But for how 2395 01:50:33.760 --> 01:50:36.960 bad it was last year when it was Rice and 2396 01:50:37.039 --> 01:50:39.479 th Nate then Nate, than Bryson, then Nate and Bryson, 2397 01:50:40.159 --> 01:50:43.119 the fact that the fans were able to see it 2398 01:50:43.159 --> 01:50:45.479 can look okay this year. Even if cam hasked to 2399 01:50:45.520 --> 01:50:48.079 miss time, I think put a lot of fears to 2400 01:50:48.159 --> 01:50:51.359 bed because the dude, you know the deal. The conversation 2401 01:50:51.600 --> 01:50:54.880 for Utah football over the past three four weeks leading 2402 01:50:54.920 --> 01:50:57.399 up into the season. Here Kyle say it. Here coach 2403 01:50:57.479 --> 01:50:59.479 lud say it, like, we need Cam to be smart, 2404 01:50:59.520 --> 01:51:01.640 We need him to show discretion is the better form 2405 01:51:01.640 --> 01:51:03.439 of valor. We need him to throw the ball away, 2406 01:51:03.840 --> 01:51:06.000 We need him to get down, we need him healthy. 2407 01:51:06.760 --> 01:51:09.279 And he lasted a game and a half and here 2408 01:51:09.319 --> 01:51:11.920 we are again. Now it's not a long term thing, 2409 01:51:11.920 --> 01:51:13.800 and we're told that he is going to play on Saturday, 2410 01:51:13.800 --> 01:51:16.520 that's the plan against Oklahoma State. But the fact that 2411 01:51:16.560 --> 01:51:18.880 it took a game and a half for Cameron to 2412 01:51:18.920 --> 01:51:20.960 miss a game, not a couple of snaps, not a 2413 01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:24.079 couple of series, He missed an entire game that, in 2414 01:51:24.159 --> 01:51:27.760 my opinion, read a lot of anxiety around here, like, oh, 2415 01:51:27.840 --> 01:51:30.840 here we go again. It's gonna look like it did 2416 01:51:30.920 --> 01:51:33.000 last year. And I think Tony, at least for one day, 2417 01:51:33.600 --> 01:51:36.520 the fan base saw that it's not going to look 2418 01:51:36.560 --> 01:51:38.920 like last year. In the event that came this time. 2419 01:51:38.840 --> 01:51:41.600 No, totally agreed, because now you're dealing with a guy 2420 01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:44.079 with a lot more skills, and that's no slight to 2421 01:51:44.119 --> 01:51:44.680 the guys before. 2422 01:51:44.720 --> 01:51:46.520 It's just a fact guy has more skills. 2423 01:51:46.760 --> 01:51:48.279 You watch the way he throws the ball, the different 2424 01:51:48.319 --> 01:51:51.239 types of throws. He's more polished, he's more skilled. You 2425 01:51:51.279 --> 01:51:53.359 don't have to protect yourself from him. It's not be 2426 01:51:53.479 --> 01:51:56.359 careful country. It's not John Hayes where you throw it 2427 01:51:56.439 --> 01:51:58.640 deep once each half and then try to hand it 2428 01:51:58.640 --> 01:52:01.199 off to John White for the other you know whatever, 2429 01:52:01.319 --> 01:52:02.279 sixty five snaps. 2430 01:52:02.319 --> 01:52:03.079 No, that's not it. 2431 01:52:03.800 --> 01:52:07.279 The preparation is going to give a more skilled quarterback 2432 01:52:07.359 --> 01:52:09.680 when he's out there, that being Isaac a lot more 2433 01:52:09.680 --> 01:52:11.439 confidence on what's going on. Plus, you have a great 2434 01:52:11.439 --> 01:52:13.840 coach in Cam Rising who has no reason not to 2435 01:52:14.439 --> 01:52:17.039 help coach this guy up right, because when Cam is 2436 01:52:17.039 --> 01:52:19.239 fully healthy and ready, he's the guy that's back out there. 2437 01:52:19.319 --> 01:52:19.560 Right. 2438 01:52:19.960 --> 01:52:22.079 So there's a great amount of trust that's in this program. 2439 01:52:22.159 --> 01:52:24.680 And I've seen it ten thousand times. It's very very 2440 01:52:24.800 --> 01:52:27.760 rare in this day and age in college football right now, 2441 01:52:28.439 --> 01:52:31.359 with depth and experience on that coaching staff that you 2442 01:52:31.520 --> 01:52:33.600 always feel like they're going to give you the very 2443 01:52:33.600 --> 01:52:35.560 best chance possible with what you're working with here, and 2444 01:52:35.600 --> 01:52:37.439 what you're working with is still very good. Yeah, So 2445 01:52:37.479 --> 01:52:39.640 I'm with you on the here we go again. It's 2446 01:52:39.640 --> 01:52:42.119 going to give anxiety. The one thing you got to 2447 01:52:42.119 --> 01:52:44.159 do is exhale and say, man, we got a great 2448 01:52:44.199 --> 01:52:47.720 coach in place. They're going to come prepared for a 2449 01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:50.520 guy in Wilson. It's not like he's coming in there. Hey, 2450 01:52:50.680 --> 01:52:52.319 you know, this is kind of his thing. 2451 01:52:52.399 --> 01:52:52.880 He's new. 2452 01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:54.479 We don't really know what he's made of. No, I 2453 01:52:54.479 --> 01:52:56.520 think we've seen some of what he's made of. And 2454 01:52:56.600 --> 01:52:58.399 I think at his very very best, he's showing you 2455 01:52:58.439 --> 01:53:00.760 some flashes to be great, and I think he's going 2456 01:53:00.800 --> 01:53:01.960 to show you continued. 2457 01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:02.720 Flashes to be responsible. 2458 01:53:02.720 --> 01:53:04.920 The big one there, too, is defense has got to 2459 01:53:04.920 --> 01:53:06.319 come up with some more timely plays. 2460 01:53:06.399 --> 01:53:08.199 The Snowden pick was I think as big as anything. 2461 01:53:08.359 --> 01:53:09.600 It was awesome. Yeah, like that. 2462 01:53:09.960 --> 01:53:11.680 I did not see a pick coming on that play. 2463 01:53:12.520 --> 01:53:15.560 At best, they saw a PBu Like. The guy's a 2464 01:53:15.560 --> 01:53:16.880 hell of a player, right, I chance to see him 2465 01:53:16.960 --> 01:53:19.479 up close a lot. So it's some of that all 2466 01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:21.600 mixed in together to get what I think will be 2467 01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:22.760 a close road victory. 2468 01:53:22.800 --> 01:53:25.239 But I could see the fan being a concern. 2469 01:53:25.319 --> 01:53:26.920 The other thing you got to remember is be happy 2470 01:53:26.920 --> 01:53:29.399 that you're in a conference that is not going to 2471 01:53:29.439 --> 01:53:32.439 be like Oregon and Washington and maybe USC happened to 2472 01:53:32.439 --> 01:53:35.119 be at the top last year, and you are dealing 2473 01:53:35.720 --> 01:53:38.119 with a team that is well put into place to 2474 01:53:38.119 --> 01:53:39.680 go give you a great chance the rest of the way. 2475 01:53:39.760 --> 01:53:42.079 Yeah, I think there's a lot to be confident about. 2476 01:53:42.119 --> 01:53:44.560 I mean, I do think the next four games it's 2477 01:53:44.600 --> 01:53:47.680 not an easy task. It's Oklahoma State, it's Arizona at home, 2478 01:53:47.800 --> 01:53:50.079 then it's at Arizona State, who's been a lot better 2479 01:53:50.119 --> 01:53:54.239 than anybody thought. I'm a big UCF guy, but I'm 2480 01:53:54.279 --> 01:53:57.560 not super down on TCU after that great football game 2481 01:53:57.600 --> 01:54:00.720 over the weekend. That's how UCF just beat them and 2482 01:54:00.760 --> 01:54:03.000 the other thing and then we'll move on because I 2483 01:54:03.039 --> 01:54:05.520 have to wonder. Brock heword hopped on the show prior 2484 01:54:05.560 --> 01:54:07.520 to the season, and I actually heard him talking about 2485 01:54:07.520 --> 01:54:10.279 this on the Utah Baylor broadcast as well. It's not 2486 01:54:10.319 --> 01:54:12.880 a slight corner canyon. It's not a slight high school football. 2487 01:54:13.239 --> 01:54:17.640 Andy Ludwigs playbook is ten times to what you know 2488 01:54:17.680 --> 01:54:19.840 as it pertains to what Isaac Wilson has used to study, 2489 01:54:19.840 --> 01:54:21.880 and it's a different thing altogether. It's a different level. 2490 01:54:21.880 --> 01:54:25.199 It's more complex and nuanced. But I thought coach lud 2491 01:54:25.279 --> 01:54:27.439 let him go a little bit against Utah STAATEI threw 2492 01:54:27.439 --> 01:54:30.760 it thirty three times. So I wonder, and again, let's 2493 01:54:30.800 --> 01:54:32.600 be clear here for people that are turning on the radio, 2494 01:54:32.640 --> 01:54:34.960 same way they're talking about Isaac Wilson playing now, Cam 2495 01:54:35.680 --> 01:54:39.520 is expected to play on Saturday. But I wonder if 2496 01:54:39.560 --> 01:54:42.239 Isaac needs to get back in there. Did Andy c 2497 01:54:42.520 --> 01:54:45.239 enough from him on Saturday to continue to give him 2498 01:54:45.279 --> 01:54:47.680 some freedoms to be who he is as opposed to 2499 01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:49.479 to your point, just three yards in a cloud of dust. 2500 01:54:49.600 --> 01:54:51.840 Yeah, I think he has. I think he has I 2501 01:54:51.840 --> 01:54:53.600 think he has the maturity. I think he has the focus. 2502 01:54:53.600 --> 01:54:55.279 I think he has the tenacity. I think he has 2503 01:54:55.319 --> 01:54:59.159 the responsible mindset where he can still play with abundance 2504 01:54:59.760 --> 01:55:02.560 with out having to be careless, but yet plays with 2505 01:55:02.560 --> 01:55:05.720 the right amount of scarcity and understanding control and managing 2506 01:55:05.720 --> 01:55:08.000 the game. And Kyle today was like, Okay, I shouldn't 2507 01:55:08.039 --> 01:55:10.560 use the word managing because it sounds like we're trying 2508 01:55:10.560 --> 01:55:13.119 to protect ourselves fromhim. But no, he understands the full 2509 01:55:13.199 --> 01:55:17.560 sixty minutes, the ten possessions or whatever, ten to twelve possessions, 2510 01:55:18.000 --> 01:55:21.279 and he has an element to his game that he 2511 01:55:21.359 --> 01:55:23.479 understands how to consume the whole game so well. And 2512 01:55:23.600 --> 01:55:24.880 I know some of this is because I was so 2513 01:55:24.880 --> 01:55:27.039 close to it for so many years. But I was 2514 01:55:27.079 --> 01:55:29.840 so impressed, you know, with Zak obviously, and I'm impressed 2515 01:55:29.840 --> 01:55:32.520 with Isaac in that way. I think he's well ahead 2516 01:55:32.800 --> 01:55:35.479 of what most people in his position would be and 2517 01:55:35.520 --> 01:55:38.199 so is he finished. No, But if you end up 2518 01:55:38.199 --> 01:55:40.880 having to go to him again somewhere, because as you 2519 01:55:40.920 --> 01:55:44.239 mentioned like that, there's an injury situation there that exists. 2520 01:55:44.640 --> 01:55:46.399 You're not trying to speak ill of can, but it 2521 01:55:46.520 --> 01:55:48.159 just is what it is. You've got a lot of 2522 01:55:48.159 --> 01:55:50.760 games left and you might need to have this again. 2523 01:55:51.319 --> 01:55:53.800 And when you need to go to it, are you 2524 01:55:53.840 --> 01:55:56.159 going to have Conference player of the Year type performance? 2525 01:55:56.239 --> 01:55:56.279 No? 2526 01:55:56.520 --> 01:55:57.199 All American No. 2527 01:55:57.399 --> 01:55:59.760 But what you will have is something that you can 2528 01:55:59.760 --> 01:56:03.079 depend on to minimize the gap between who your starter 2529 01:56:03.239 --> 01:56:04.279 is and who your backup is. 2530 01:56:04.279 --> 01:56:06.920 Because last year it was quite a drop. Let me 2531 01:56:06.960 --> 01:56:08.760 get a quick by you thought from you before we 2532 01:56:08.800 --> 01:56:11.000 catch a break for the five o'clock hour of the show. 2533 01:56:11.720 --> 01:56:14.039 Last year, it just it was weird in a lot 2534 01:56:14.079 --> 01:56:16.399 of ways for a team whose head coach was Kolonie 2535 01:56:16.439 --> 01:56:18.920 Satake and his defensive coordinator was Jay Hill to be 2536 01:56:19.159 --> 01:56:21.039 I think they were last in the country in sacks. 2537 01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:24.880 They could not pressure the quarterback. It didn't look great. 2538 01:56:25.079 --> 01:56:27.760 Keaton Slows never fully settled in. They get off to 2539 01:56:27.840 --> 01:56:30.000 a decent start, then they get smoked in conference play. 2540 01:56:30.039 --> 01:56:32.239 But it was the defense that confused me. Because Kilanie 2541 01:56:32.479 --> 01:56:35.119 that's his thing. Jay Hill, that's his thing. We were 2542 01:56:35.119 --> 01:56:38.239 talking about David Randa earlier. Klane cut his teeth under Kyle, 2543 01:56:38.319 --> 01:56:40.640 so did Jay. They know the deal. They know that 2544 01:56:41.199 --> 01:56:43.039 in order to win football games, you have to be 2545 01:56:43.079 --> 01:56:45.000 stout on that side of the ball, and they are 2546 01:56:45.720 --> 01:56:48.119 this year very stout defensively in a way that I 2547 01:56:48.119 --> 01:56:49.640 don't think they were a year ago. Now, a lot 2548 01:56:49.720 --> 01:56:52.039 of it's going to come down to Jake and I'd 2549 01:56:52.119 --> 01:56:53.600 sit down and turn on the game. He throws that 2550 01:56:53.640 --> 01:56:56.000 early pick and I'm like, dude, what are we doing here? 2551 01:56:56.039 --> 01:56:59.239 I mean, a Rod last week said I will eliminate 2552 01:56:59.239 --> 01:57:01.399 the turnovers for my program. As QB goes out, throws 2553 01:57:01.399 --> 01:57:04.239 an early pick and I'm like, well, Hannah started warming up. 2554 01:57:04.439 --> 01:57:06.279 It was on the broadcast, and they started warming up 2555 01:57:06.279 --> 01:57:08.119 a hand in. I'm like, all right, they're gonna pull 2556 01:57:08.159 --> 01:57:11.119 the plug. But I thought Jake, just like Isaac, responded 2557 01:57:11.159 --> 01:57:15.079 really well Manton on Friday said Wyoming sucks. B why 2558 01:57:15.119 --> 01:57:18.880 you should roll. I wasn't convinced that Wyoming sucked, but 2559 01:57:19.039 --> 01:57:21.560 they suck, and n By you rolled. Give me your 2560 01:57:21.600 --> 01:57:22.880 thoughts on By's clean start. 2561 01:57:22.960 --> 01:57:25.520 Well, I think Wyoming isn't very good, and I think 2562 01:57:25.560 --> 01:57:27.760 BYU is going to be tested even more so here 2563 01:57:27.800 --> 01:57:28.279 coming up. 2564 01:57:28.319 --> 01:57:30.359 The big thing is can you play consistently enough? 2565 01:57:30.399 --> 01:57:32.760 Can you stay away from some of the catastrophic mistakes 2566 01:57:33.159 --> 01:57:35.279 that against Wyoming you'll get away with here and there? 2567 01:57:35.359 --> 01:57:37.039 Like Utah had a slow start in their game against 2568 01:57:37.079 --> 01:57:39.600 Utah State, right, you can't do that against Oklahoma State. 2569 01:57:39.600 --> 01:57:42.760 But at your best, which I think they showed during 2570 01:57:42.840 --> 01:57:45.119 huge stretches of those final three quarters, you can dominate 2571 01:57:45.159 --> 01:57:47.760 a team like that, and you can absolutely show the 2572 01:57:47.760 --> 01:57:51.640 fundamental sound abilities to control a game by you. I 2573 01:57:51.680 --> 01:57:53.199 still need to see more from them that they can 2574 01:57:53.239 --> 01:57:56.520 avoid some of the catastrophic mistakes that give me belief 2575 01:57:56.600 --> 01:57:58.600 that they can have a much better season than I 2576 01:57:58.640 --> 01:58:02.399 had originally expected. Right, some of that is still going 2577 01:58:02.439 --> 01:58:04.159 to be a work in progress, and I think one 2578 01:58:04.159 --> 01:58:07.720 of the big questions about them at all P four level, 2579 01:58:07.760 --> 01:58:10.359 if you will, is can they get the players often 2580 01:58:10.479 --> 01:58:13.800 enough to be that kind of program that emerges and grows. Right, 2581 01:58:13.800 --> 01:58:16.560 there was an acclimation period for Utah to the PAC twelve, 2582 01:58:16.960 --> 01:58:19.720 and that was clearly a few years there where they 2583 01:58:19.720 --> 01:58:22.039 were sub five hundred, didn't go to bulls, things like that, 2584 01:58:22.520 --> 01:58:24.439 and then all of a sudden it was eight plus 2585 01:58:24.439 --> 01:58:28.640 wins regularly for BYU. I'm very curious about that, because 2586 01:58:28.680 --> 01:58:31.920 the acclimation period is different because you're recruiting, your situation 2587 01:58:32.039 --> 01:58:33.880 is unique. I do think they have as good a 2588 01:58:33.960 --> 01:58:36.479 staff as you could ask for, with great abilities to 2589 01:58:36.560 --> 01:58:39.159 recruit in a variety of different ways. Now the big 2590 01:58:39.199 --> 01:58:41.640 thing is just how good is their best And I 2591 01:58:41.720 --> 01:58:44.560 think Jay who if you look at what they do defensively, yeah, 2592 01:58:44.600 --> 01:58:49.880 it comes from perfecting fundamentals, lane discipline, guys understanding their job, 2593 01:58:50.239 --> 01:58:52.960 not getting outside of themselves. But on offense, you've got 2594 01:58:53.000 --> 01:58:54.880 to be able to make big plays more often enough. 2595 01:58:54.920 --> 01:58:56.560 And then the other thing you're gonna need is you 2596 01:58:56.600 --> 01:58:59.119 got to stay away from some of the catastrophic mistakes. 2597 01:58:59.319 --> 01:59:01.840 So how they way that balance here spence against better 2598 01:59:01.840 --> 01:59:04.800 competition that remains to be seen. And I think a 2599 01:59:04.920 --> 01:59:07.359 Rod has a really big task on his hand to 2600 01:59:07.560 --> 01:59:10.279 gauge and balance how that is because Kyle Whittingham, with 2601 01:59:10.399 --> 01:59:13.720 his number of offensive coordinators that he had for years, 2602 01:59:13.920 --> 01:59:16.279 had to figure out how to do that. With Travis Wilson, 2603 01:59:16.680 --> 01:59:18.439 he had to figure out how to do that. I mean, 2604 01:59:18.439 --> 01:59:20.840 obviously with John Hayes and some other guys. He had 2605 01:59:20.880 --> 01:59:23.319 to figure out how to do that without depth because 2606 01:59:23.319 --> 01:59:25.760 when they would have some injuries to olign and then 2607 01:59:25.800 --> 01:59:27.760 you have some quarterback issues all a sudden, you start 2608 01:59:27.760 --> 01:59:28.239 one to five. 2609 01:59:28.680 --> 01:59:29.840 That's hard. 2610 01:59:30.039 --> 01:59:32.239 So I'm very curious to see how a rod works 2611 01:59:32.239 --> 01:59:35.319 and balances that. There's a real fine amount of work 2612 01:59:35.319 --> 01:59:36.520 that goes into that. And by the way, it was 2613 01:59:36.520 --> 01:59:38.520 a part of some of those Utah staffs they had 2614 01:59:38.560 --> 01:59:39.039 to work with that. 2615 01:59:39.520 --> 01:59:42.039 You know, it's funny some people may forget not to 2616 01:59:42.079 --> 01:59:44.119 do the Trump thing, like everyone forgot. No, you're the 2617 01:59:44.119 --> 01:59:47.199 only one that forgot. There was a time when it 2618 01:59:47.239 --> 01:59:49.720 came to the Utah offensive coordinator spot where it felt 2619 01:59:49.760 --> 01:59:51.840 like it's like, hey, does anyone have Dave Shram's number? 2620 01:59:51.920 --> 01:59:52.079 Right? 2621 01:59:52.159 --> 01:59:55.760 Like it was such a turnover right year in and 2622 01:59:55.840 --> 01:59:58.039 year out. The coach lud has really solidified that. Let 2623 01:59:58.079 --> 02:00:00.359 me ask you one more thing, because I think I've 2624 02:00:00.359 --> 02:00:03.479 got your take on this, and I'm surprised. Now, let's 2625 02:00:03.479 --> 02:00:06.800 be clear, the reporting on this is murky because nil stuff. 2626 02:00:06.800 --> 02:00:09.119 There's some websites here there, and there's some reporting that 2627 02:00:09.159 --> 02:00:12.760 you can look at. By all accounts, and this is 2628 02:00:12.760 --> 02:00:15.880 a Ryan Smith thing because Ryan's a basketball guy. But 2629 02:00:15.920 --> 02:00:20.560 by all accounts, BYU at this point has tremendous resources 2630 02:00:20.600 --> 02:00:24.720 invested in their basketball program, yet they have not found 2631 02:00:24.760 --> 02:00:28.760 the football equivalent of Ryan Smith. And I just thought, 2632 02:00:29.279 --> 02:00:31.640 i mean, look, i come from a family of BYU fans. 2633 02:00:31.880 --> 02:00:33.840 I've got a brother who's the CEO of a company, 2634 02:00:34.399 --> 02:00:38.800 and there are so many ex BYU athletes or just 2635 02:00:38.960 --> 02:00:41.720 x BYU students that go on to start companies or 2636 02:00:41.840 --> 02:00:45.640 MLMs and make a ton of money. They'll love BYU football. 2637 02:00:45.680 --> 02:00:49.880 I'm kind of surprised the Ryan Smith equivalent for the 2638 02:00:49.880 --> 02:00:52.800 football program has not manifested itself just yet, at least 2639 02:00:52.840 --> 02:00:54.079 as far as our understanding goes. 2640 02:00:54.239 --> 02:00:56.520 So I said this from the beginning, I was working 2641 02:00:56.560 --> 02:00:59.760 at America First Credit Union. There weren't many people in 2642 02:00:59.800 --> 02:01:01.479 the art office at the time. It was COVID, but 2643 02:01:01.479 --> 02:01:03.399 there are a few people and we would talk football 2644 02:01:03.399 --> 02:01:04.880 in It was a great time, and this nil thing 2645 02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:07.479 really started getting big. They talked about how big a 2646 02:01:07.520 --> 02:01:10.000 deal it could be for football, and that's what they 2647 02:01:10.000 --> 02:01:11.520 wanted to see. Hey, there's a lot of people to 2648 02:01:11.560 --> 02:01:13.720 support this team. They could really get behind it in 2649 02:01:13.720 --> 02:01:16.399 these different ways. I said, I think basketball is where 2650 02:01:16.399 --> 02:01:19.359 they can really make it happen. Because you have a 2651 02:01:19.359 --> 02:01:22.119 smaller number of players, you have a much better chance 2652 02:01:22.159 --> 02:01:24.000 to garner some stars. You have a twenty thousand seed 2653 02:01:24.039 --> 02:01:26.399 arena that you can pack. I think they have game 2654 02:01:26.439 --> 02:01:30.159 presentation that is second to none. They're so good with 2655 02:01:30.199 --> 02:01:32.560 their game, they're so good with their fan experience. I 2656 02:01:32.600 --> 02:01:34.560 tip my hat to them all the time. They're really 2657 02:01:34.600 --> 02:01:37.680 really good at it. And that's not to disparage anybody else. 2658 02:01:37.720 --> 02:01:40.359 I just think they really have something there that I 2659 02:01:40.399 --> 02:01:43.359 think is very impressive, and so they've worked hard at 2660 02:01:43.359 --> 02:01:44.479 it and they've taken pride in it. 2661 02:01:44.800 --> 02:01:45.560 I think if you're an. 2662 02:01:45.439 --> 02:01:47.680 Athlete, you love to see that in basketball, the way 2663 02:01:47.720 --> 02:01:50.560 that they do it, And people at Utah would say, well, well 2664 02:01:50.640 --> 02:01:52.520 why not us, Well, no, it's hard because you don't 2665 02:01:52.520 --> 02:01:55.039 have enough people there to have some of what you're 2666 02:01:55.039 --> 02:01:57.520 trying to build, and obviously that comes with winning, and 2667 02:01:57.560 --> 02:01:59.279 we can go down that rabbit hole in another day. 2668 02:01:59.319 --> 02:02:01.000 So it's kind of unfair to some of the other 2669 02:02:01.039 --> 02:02:03.560 staffs trying to put together a good fan experience because 2670 02:02:03.560 --> 02:02:05.800 BAU basketball has something there. They put together some good 2671 02:02:05.800 --> 02:02:07.279 wins there with Pope, they had a good run that 2672 02:02:07.319 --> 02:02:08.680 you know, they went to an NCAA tournament. 2673 02:02:08.720 --> 02:02:11.319 Whatever. They're stacked right on paper this year, this year, 2674 02:02:11.680 --> 02:02:12.159 this year, the. 2675 02:02:12.199 --> 02:02:14.479 Juice is just high man and you you did a 2676 02:02:14.479 --> 02:02:17.239 lot with the coaching staff. So Niol with basketball, I 2677 02:02:17.239 --> 02:02:19.000 thought was going to have the first big impact. I 2678 02:02:19.079 --> 02:02:21.479 do think they can get there with football, but it's 2679 02:02:21.479 --> 02:02:23.920 got to be with like a quarterback and then a 2680 02:02:23.960 --> 02:02:26.680 key running back receiver, right, so you dial in on 2681 02:02:26.760 --> 02:02:29.800 a couple of key positions for that and you target 2682 02:02:29.920 --> 02:02:32.640 in on that, and that is the way it would 2683 02:02:32.720 --> 02:02:35.079 have to happen. That I think is a slower process. 2684 02:02:35.479 --> 02:02:37.880 I really do believe it's a slower process there, Spence, 2685 02:02:37.920 --> 02:02:39.720 and it's it's got to be something that's gonna come 2686 02:02:39.720 --> 02:02:40.039 over time. 2687 02:02:40.079 --> 02:02:40.760 Where's basketball. 2688 02:02:40.760 --> 02:02:43.079 I thought they would actually have it earlier than they 2689 02:02:43.079 --> 02:02:45.880 have until now now they're ready to go. But I 2690 02:02:45.960 --> 02:02:48.399 remember saying that all the way back and like the 2691 02:02:48.439 --> 02:02:51.359 fall of twenty twenty, going no, this is this is 2692 02:02:51.359 --> 02:02:53.560 actually where they can have massive advancement. 2693 02:02:53.720 --> 02:02:56.760 Oh interesting, because that's been the case. All right, Tom, 2694 02:02:56.800 --> 02:02:58.279 great to see before I say you lose hit that 2695 02:02:58.359 --> 02:03:00.279 bes promo again. What we do, what we got get 2696 02:03:00.279 --> 02:03:02.479 at SLBs dot com. Make sure you come out to 2697 02:03:02.520 --> 02:03:04.880 the games five dollars tickets on Sunday. You get to 2698 02:03:04.960 --> 02:03:06.720 run around the bases on the field. After the game. 2699 02:03:06.760 --> 02:03:08.279 You know what, you can probably stay longer, take a 2700 02:03:08.319 --> 02:03:10.880 few pictures, you know, have a good time, hang out 2701 02:03:10.880 --> 02:03:13.039 with Bumble for a few extra minutes. Let it be 2702 02:03:13.159 --> 02:03:15.039 that sign off. Let it be something that you're a 2703 02:03:15.039 --> 02:03:16.840 part of. By the way, weather Sunday is supposed to 2704 02:03:16.840 --> 02:03:19.199 be amazing, so you know, it's one of those days 2705 02:03:19.199 --> 02:03:21.520 where bring a jacket anyway, but it's probably gonna be nice. 2706 02:03:21.600 --> 02:03:23.399 Probably don't need it. Oh and it's park at the 2707 02:03:23.439 --> 02:03:26.560 park on Sunday. Bring your dog to the ballpark. Gets 2708 02:03:26.560 --> 02:03:29.239 your tickets SLBs nice dot com. There's no better place 2709 02:03:29.279 --> 02:03:31.960 for park in the park than that place. Friday night, 2710 02:03:32.000 --> 02:03:34.880 Go Gold Night. That is going to be a beautiful 2711 02:03:34.880 --> 02:03:37.039 and special night. Fireworks after the game. But we have 2712 02:03:37.079 --> 02:03:40.199 wonderful tribute set up for all the different families currently 2713 02:03:40.199 --> 02:03:41.760 in the fight, those who have been in the fight, 2714 02:03:41.800 --> 02:03:44.520 those who have lost somebody in the fight. Cancer affects 2715 02:03:44.560 --> 02:03:47.600 everybody in some way, people that we love. For me, 2716 02:03:47.720 --> 02:03:50.520 I've got a very good friend of mine you, who 2717 02:03:50.880 --> 02:03:52.720 you know, has has been a part of that fight, 2718 02:03:52.960 --> 02:03:55.079 and I think of you every single time anything like 2719 02:03:55.119 --> 02:03:57.520 that comes up. I appreciate and the conversations we've had 2720 02:03:57.560 --> 02:03:59.640 off the air. We have friends of ours who've had 2721 02:03:59.680 --> 02:04:02.800 children who've been in that fight, and so it's a 2722 02:04:02.840 --> 02:04:05.079 wonderful night to come to the ballpark be a part 2723 02:04:05.119 --> 02:04:08.760 of those tributes and UH the Huntsman Cancer, UH Foundation's 2724 02:04:08.760 --> 02:04:11.399 pediatric research, all of that. Big thanks to everybody over 2725 02:04:11.439 --> 02:04:14.159 there for all that they do. So at any point, 2726 02:04:14.640 --> 02:04:16.720 come twice this week. You know the ticket deals are 2727 02:04:16.720 --> 02:04:19.079 gonna be good enough you can afford to come twice, 2728 02:04:19.159 --> 02:04:21.880 and we'll have some great options for a gear that 2729 02:04:21.960 --> 02:04:23.520 you can buy in the team store that you're gonna 2730 02:04:23.520 --> 02:04:25.279 love the discounts there, and you're gonna love all the 2731 02:04:25.279 --> 02:04:28.399 wonderful discounts when it comes to concessions, just everything involved 2732 02:04:28.399 --> 02:04:31.000 with it. Make sure you're a part of it. SLBs 2733 02:04:31.199 --> 02:04:31.600 dot Com. 2734 02:04:31.640 --> 02:04:34.279 Great to see him, my brother. Okay Parks Voice of 2735 02:04:34.279 --> 02:04:34.560 the Bes,