Speaker 1: All right, what is going on? It's drivetime, it's a Monday.
Speaker 1: It's about eighteen minutes past the hour, two o'clock. We
Speaker 1: got a little loose on Cross Talk today, myself and
Speaker 1: Sean O'Connell.
Speaker 2: Too.
Speaker 1: Happy bunday to you. Hope you had a great weekend,
Speaker 1: and as it is every single day, it's gonna have
Speaker 1: you along for the ride. Spence check, it's beyond the mic.
Speaker 1: That's Porter Larson beyond the Glass today. Dam pac Man
Speaker 1: love Monday shows in the fall. We got a lot
Speaker 1: to do, of course, a lot of it will involve
Speaker 1: the college football weekend that is now behind us and
Speaker 1: looking ahead to a massive, massive week for both Utah
Speaker 1: and UYU as Big twelve plays upon us. So a
Speaker 1: lot to do on this Monday afternoon edition of The Drive.
Speaker 1: Pro Football. The NFL Week two will culminate tonight with
Speaker 1: their little Monday Night football that you can hear on
Speaker 1: this radio station. It is the Eagles hosting the Falcons
Speaker 1: Philadelphia five point five point favorite the over unders forty
Speaker 1: five point five. A lot of crazy offsets in pro football.
Speaker 1: We'll talk some NFL on the show today, of course,
Speaker 1: a lot of college as well. DYU went up to
Speaker 1: Laramie and had no problem, no problem at all. That
Speaker 1: game was over early BYU jumped on Wyoming and made
Speaker 1: sure they had no chance in that game, which they didn't.
Speaker 1: It was a very impressive performance of both the PYU
Speaker 1: and Utah. Now into our Big twelve game week YU
Speaker 1: host K State on Saturday night at eight thirty. Utah
Speaker 1: is on the road at Stillwater taking on ok State.
Speaker 1: Both those two teams of State clean and Utah and
Speaker 1: BYU State clean in the non con So away we go,
Speaker 1: Away we go, and we'll talk a lot about all
Speaker 1: of that on the program today. RSL got stopped by
Speaker 1: the Houston Dynamo, of course, because that's kind of a
Speaker 1: deal now, So get into somebout on the program today,
Speaker 1: good guest list, as we do every Monday in the
Speaker 1: afternoons here on your home of the Utes, we played
Speaker 1: Coach Witz Presser. If you missed it from earlier today,
Speaker 1: we'll bring that back around to you coming up. Then
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring you in. Josh Furlong on the program today,
Speaker 1: Josh to stop buy It covers the Utes for OKSL.
Speaker 1: Our good friends over at KSL give you our Big
Speaker 1: twelve power rankings. You do it every Monday on the show.
Speaker 1: A little bit of a shakeup for me. We'll see
Speaker 1: what Porter has to say. That comes away at three
Speaker 1: point thirty, and then Tony Parks live in studio. Always
Speaker 1: enjoy catching up with Tony later on the show. So
Speaker 1: we'll bring you a little coach with we'll chat with
Speaker 1: Josh Furlong, we'll do our Big twelve Power rankings. We'll
Speaker 1: bring in Tony Parks, Me Spence Check. Its all of you,
Speaker 1: the great listeners, and that guy Porter Larson on a
Speaker 1: Monday afternoon. So the young man looked pretty good. Isaac
Speaker 1: performed pretty well. That was a anxious start, you could
Speaker 1: feel it for youth fans, but ultimately they handle their business. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously didn't get going the way that you would
Speaker 3: have liked, or you would have intended if you are
Speaker 3: the utes. But you get out of there with a win,
Speaker 3: You get out of there no real injuries or long
Speaker 3: term issues to speak of in that regard, and you
Speaker 3: do get Cam rising back by all reports in still water.
Speaker 3: So the result is no way to spin in any
Speaker 3: other way than positive. But if you do want a nitpick,
Speaker 3: if you do want to dive into the specifics there are,
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of things that you talk and
Speaker 3: still grow on, a lot of things that they looked
Speaker 3: really good with, including the development of Isaac Wilson, and
Speaker 3: that's something to be optimistic about. So yeah, a lot
Speaker 3: to get to, including the utes over the weekend on
Speaker 3: this Monday show.
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Speaker 1: The anxious moments over the weekend for youth fans, certainly
Speaker 1: as Utah State up in Logan was able to take
Speaker 1: a fourteen to three lead before the youths kind of
Speaker 1: got their footing underneath them. So it took a minute
Speaker 1: as far as that slow start for Utah football, but
Speaker 1: they were able to find their footing and ultimately get
Speaker 1: a pretty comfortable win over the Aggies thirty eight to
Speaker 1: twenty one. So Utah had not been up north to
Speaker 1: play Utah State in twelve years. So the Battle of
Speaker 1: the Brothers is the wagon wheel BYU Utah State. Is
Speaker 1: there a wagon wheel involved in this one?
Speaker 3: I think that's the wagon wheel. It's Eyuutah State Battle
Speaker 3: of the Brothers or something.
Speaker 1: I'm on record. Whatever it is, I'm on record saying
Speaker 1: that's the dumbest gift to give as a reward in
Speaker 1: all of college football, really, so ergonomically incorrect. Who's in
Speaker 1: charge of getting it back down to provo? That would
Speaker 1: be a horrible assignment anyway, you know, battle the Brothers.
Speaker 1: The one hundred and twelfth edition of Utah Utah State
Speaker 1: goes Utah's way. So let's dig into a little bit.
Speaker 1: We'll get to some yu before he played coach quick
Speaker 1: coming up. So the questions heading into the game certainly
Speaker 1: were surrounding the quarterback position, as they have been and
Speaker 1: will be for a while. So we told you on
Speaker 1: our show last Monday that I was told Isaac was
Speaker 1: getting the reps with one. So I wasn't surprised to
Speaker 1: see Isaac hunder center. Cameron Rising was dressed, he did
Speaker 1: warm up. They go with Isaac Wilson, and it was
Speaker 1: a little bit of a shaky start, but man, did
Speaker 1: this kid settle in. And according to our friends at PFF,
Speaker 1: Isaac Wilson highest graded true freshman running back from Week three,
Speaker 1: a PFF grade of seventy three point five. And it
Speaker 1: was good news for so many different reasons. Let's get
Speaker 1: into a few of them. First of all, let's say
Speaker 1: most of you probably do not bet, and you shouldn't.
Speaker 1: As I say on the show, do not gamble on sports.
Speaker 1: You work too hard for your money. Keep it in
Speaker 1: your bank account, keep it in your pocket. But if
Speaker 1: I said to you, you have to bet your next
Speaker 1: paycheck on whether or not Cam Rising is going to
Speaker 1: play in every game moving forward, what would you bet
Speaker 1: it on? We would all bet it on probably not.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants him to get hurt. Certainly we all want
Speaker 1: to see Cameron under center, as porter referenced earlier, all
Speaker 1: of the reports and coach with himself saying they expect
Speaker 1: him under center in Stillwater to take on Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State has stayed clean. They trounced Tulsa over the
Speaker 1: weekend after getting a win over Arkansas that was really
Speaker 1: hairy for them. Quite frankly, they were lucky to get
Speaker 1: that done. They beat South to go to State to
Speaker 1: start the year. We'll get into Okay State throughout the
Speaker 1: course of the week. On this show, he kind of
Speaker 1: start to turn the page closer to Wednesday. They can
Speaker 1: really run the football, and right now Utah has some
Speaker 1: things to fix because Utah State was able to get
Speaker 1: yards on the ground with Rescuo Faison, who had one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen yards on nineteen carries. But Isaac specifically
Speaker 1: answered so many questions for so many people on Saturday,
Speaker 1: and yes, Utah State is not a P four team,
Speaker 1: it's not a big twelve team. Nate Drawling's a defensive coach,
Speaker 1: so you know that their defense was prepared and they
Speaker 1: did cause some problems for Isaac. It wasn't perfect. It
Speaker 1: wasn't perfect on out of side of the ball. Kar Karen,
Speaker 1: I excuse me. Karn A. Reid also sat he is
Speaker 1: expected to play against Oklahoma State, but that was an issue.
Speaker 1: Utah sacked Bryson Barnes once Utah State was able to
Speaker 1: grab three eighty five of total. Oh that's way too
Speaker 1: many yards. I'm sure coach went Morgan Scalley not thrilled
Speaker 1: about that. So certainly things to clean up prior to
Speaker 1: this road trip, which is so big for so many
Speaker 1: different reasons. Utah, by the way, is the favorite out
Speaker 1: of the gates in Vegas. Utah in Stillwater as of
Speaker 1: now is a one point five point favorite. The over
Speaker 1: under is fifty one point five. It is supposed to
Speaker 1: be super hot down there next weekend. The AC game
Speaker 1: time weather as of now is ninety three degrees. And
Speaker 1: remember you usually get about three points built in as
Speaker 1: the home team, so Vegas thinks Utah is about four
Speaker 1: and a half five points better than Oklahoma State. We'll
Speaker 1: see whether the wise guys think. We'll see where the
Speaker 1: sharks think. We'll see if that line moves. But Isaac
Speaker 1: has answered a question that was simply never answered last year,
Speaker 1: and that is, if Cam is unavailable, and last year
Speaker 1: was also if Brandon Rose is unavailable, the first two
Speaker 1: guys go down early, what does that position look like?
Speaker 1: It was never fully answered. It was Bryson, then it
Speaker 1: was Night, then it was both of them sometimes, then
Speaker 1: it was my guy, the Ferrari Batari for a minute,
Speaker 1: we just never knew what to expect under center. And
Speaker 1: the nice thing about what we saw on Saturday is
Speaker 1: should Cameron have to miss time? And let's hope he
Speaker 1: does not. Let's hope he's ready to go on Saturday
Speaker 1: and plays every single game the rest of the way.
Speaker 1: But again, if you're a betting man, what's your confidence
Speaker 1: level if that's going to happen? And right now, the
Speaker 1: best team in college football is dealing with their own situation.
Speaker 1: Quinn yours is week to week Arch Manning. We saw
Speaker 1: the next great Manning QB. Five total touchdowns, including a
Speaker 1: ridiculous scamper, the longest touchdown ron of a Texas quarterback
Speaker 1: since Vince Young. So Steve Sarkisian got some answers on
Speaker 1: Saturday from RCH. Kyle Whittingham got some answers on Saturday
Speaker 1: from Isaac. And it doesn't matter who you are, which
Speaker 1: team you are in football, chances are no matter what
Speaker 1: the position is, you're going to need multiple players to
Speaker 1: be able to step up and play that position, not
Speaker 1: just one or two, sometimes three or four. We learned
Speaker 1: it last year with his quarterback stuff. That was such
Speaker 1: an emphatic answer for me of what Isaac has in
Speaker 1: him that we can debate all the other stuff. The
Speaker 1: run defense wasn't great. You didn't pressure the quarterback. You know,
Speaker 1: you allowed too many tenuous moments against the team. You're
Speaker 1: clearly better than We can get into all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But ultimately, I'm sure Kyle and Andy and the whole
Speaker 1: coaching staff on that bus ride back down a Salt
Speaker 1: Lake had big smiles on their face because their young
Speaker 1: freshman quarterback, the fifth true freshman in Utah football history
Speaker 1: to start a game, set a true freshman record with
Speaker 1: three touchdown passes and answer the question of what do
Speaker 1: we look like when we don't have our starting quarterback?
Speaker 1: When Cameron is not right, what do we look like?
Speaker 1: And the goodness is this year, at least for now,
Speaker 1: it seems like they'll look a lot better than they
Speaker 1: did a year ago. All right, over to BYU real quick.
Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, they jumped on Wyoming. It was
Speaker 1: over quick, and that crowd, which gets loose, certainly had
Speaker 1: nothing to cheer for. Reetz left comes out, he throws
Speaker 1: the pick and you're like, oh, dude, And then Bohanna
Speaker 1: was actually warming up before this thing got out of control.
Speaker 1: After Jake threw another pick because Aaron Roderick last week
Speaker 1: he said turnovers will be eliminated from my offense. Jake
Speaker 1: throws a pick. Are they going to throw by handing in?
Speaker 1: They didn't, and Rehet's left bounces back, throws for two
Speaker 1: ninety one on three touchdowns. He did have that one
Speaker 1: pick QBR of seventy five, which is fine, but Wyoming
Speaker 1: had nothing. And as soon as BYU had that kickoff
Speaker 1: return for the touchdown on the other side of halftime,
Speaker 1: it was curtains there was no comeback to be had.
Speaker 1: So both BYU and Utah stay clean and the non
Speaker 1: con and now they welcome in two of the best
Speaker 1: teams in the Big Twelve that Lavelle Edwards is going
Speaker 1: to be eight point thirty on ESPN, Kansas State rolls
Speaker 1: into town as a seven point favorite and the over
Speaker 1: under is forty seven point five. All right, Coming up
Speaker 1: on the other side, as we are wont to do
Speaker 1: on this radio show, on this radio program, we are
Speaker 1: going to be joined live in studio I believe by
Speaker 1: doctor Angela Peterson, right, yes, yes, so let's get her in.
Speaker 1: We'll be joining studio real quick. And then coming up
Speaker 1: on the other side, we are going to catch up
Speaker 1: with coach wit. If you miss Kyle Whittingham's press conference
Speaker 1: from earlier today, as we are wont to do on
Speaker 1: this show, we bring it back to you in the
Speaker 1: afternoons just in case you got distracted did not have
Speaker 1: a chance to check it out. So Josh Furlong will
Speaker 1: stop by give you our Big twelve power rankings. Tony
Speaker 1: Parks live in studio, we'll get to some NFL stuff,
Speaker 1: a lot of locals in the NFL making some big
Speaker 1: time plays. Tim Patrick. Tim Patrick with a couple of
Speaker 1: catches for the Lions, first time Tim had catching an
Speaker 1: NFL game since twenty twenty one. So some good stuff
Speaker 1: as it pertains to what we saw in the NFL
Speaker 1: over the weekend with some local players making plays. Catch
Speaker 1: it a lot of strays today. Did you have a
Speaker 1: chance to tune into cross talk or were you busy,
Speaker 1: you know, producing a radio show.
Speaker 3: I actually did not get to hear much of a crosstalk.
Speaker 1: Love is the te Let me love it out and
Speaker 1: we'll get to coach with and maybe we'll readdress this later.
Speaker 1: Based off some feedback, Sean on his show was giving
Speaker 1: away tickets to Disney on Ice and made a statement
Speaker 1: along the lines of, you know, great thing for your kids,
Speaker 1: or like if you don't have kids and you want
Speaker 1: to go something along the lines of that. And I
Speaker 1: made the statement that Disney adults adults that do like
Speaker 1: the full Disney thing, right, And I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: watch a Disney movie. I'm not talking about maybe go
Speaker 1: there one day or something. I'm talking about, like, you
Speaker 1: plan the trip. It's like a week long trip. You're
Speaker 1: either Disneyland, Disney World. You're at resort hotels, so you're
Speaker 1: spending probably ten thousand dollars start to finish, and that's
Speaker 1: the deal. And you get together with your boys, or
Speaker 1: you get together with your girls and you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: we got to do the Disney thing, and that's the
Speaker 1: thing that you do often and spend your time and
Speaker 1: money doing often right without children. I find that to
Speaker 1: be form of mental illness. Oh is that too strong?
Speaker 1: I'm getting feedback. That's a little strong.
Speaker 3: I would say it's a little strong, Okay, I will say.
Speaker 3: And it's interesting because you're in a market that, let's
Speaker 3: be clear, loves Disney.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but most of people that love Disney have a
Speaker 1: bunch of kids, or just some kids, or a kid
Speaker 1: like me. I have one. I took him out of
Speaker 1: Disney Cruise. I enjoy Disney, but I can't picture. I
Speaker 1: can't picture like calling my buddies and being like, dude,
Speaker 1: what are you guys doing? Third weekend of October. Get
Speaker 1: ready for a little it's a small world. We're gonna,
Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're gonna crush Space Mound like seven times.
Speaker 1: We're going. We're going to Anaheim. We're standing at a
Speaker 1: Disney resort hotel and I'm going to introduce you to
Speaker 1: what it's like to ride on the Peter Pan Ride. Yeah. Together,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, and you buy a sandwich and a
Speaker 1: soda and it's like forty five dollars. It's not like
Speaker 1: my cup of tea.
Speaker 3: If you're not a sports fan, maybe you're not like
Speaker 3: a big music, live music person, then you gotta find
Speaker 3: your your entertainment somewhere. I I can't get with it.
Speaker 3: I you know, I had my my Disney landfill when
Speaker 3: I was a young child, and it happened quickly. But hey,
Speaker 3: to each their own, each their own.
Speaker 1: I feel about Disney the Disney experience the same way
Speaker 1: I feel about Star Wars movies. I loved them, and
Speaker 1: then I turned ten it was time to move on.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: OK, I'm not anti Disney. I just think the adults
Speaker 1: that are crushing Disney often like for weeks at a time,
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting look. How about that?
Speaker 3: Okay, okright, that's better than than mental illness. You know,
Speaker 3: maybe some things to chat about a professional about as well,
Speaker 3: if you want to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I'll dig into that at some point, some
Speaker 1: childhood stuff you want to maybe address. Scoop of vanilla
Speaker 1: ice cream with making with Mickey Mouse. Here is forty
Speaker 1: seven to ninety five. Thanks for coming to Disney World.
Speaker 1: It's insane, man like the money that people spend there
Speaker 1: is nuts. I think you should go again rekindle your
Speaker 1: recapture my inner child, your child. Yeah, thanks for the advice.
Speaker 1: There you go. All right, So we're gonna bring in
Speaker 1: Josh Furlong today. We have tony parks later on, but
Speaker 1: as we do every single Monday during the college football season.
Speaker 1: If you missed it from earlier, here's the head coach
Speaker 1: of the utes coach you wit.
Speaker 6: All right, hard fought game up in Logan against Utesh
Speaker 6: State this past weekend. A lot of positives coming out.
Speaker 7: Of that game.
Speaker 6: For small it was great to see Isaac have success.
Speaker 6: And uh I thought he Berdy managed the Uh not managed,
Speaker 6: that's probably the wrong word. He played exceptionally well in
Speaker 6: the game. Uh once he got settled in. Uh we
Speaker 6: got kind of a slow start as a team. UH
Speaker 6: no explanation for that. They they uh did a good
Speaker 6: job getting their guys ready. Uh the Aggies did, and
Speaker 6: they were they were uh they played very well. They
Speaker 6: were coached well. Uh and uh you know given them
Speaker 6: credit for for uh our slow start. A lot of
Speaker 6: that goes to them. But UH anyway, we uh ended
Speaker 6: up uh gaining some momentum as the game went on,
Speaker 6: UH ended up winning UH thirty eight twenty one, and
Speaker 6: UH now it's time to get into conference play. So
Speaker 6: uh as conference play from here on out starts at
Speaker 6: Oklahoma State. UH tough place to play from what I hear,
Speaker 6: have never been there, about the same size statium that
Speaker 6: we have within you know, just a few hundred people,
Speaker 6: I believe, and so, so there's a lot of similarities
Speaker 6: between the two UH programs. UH coach Gundys Dine a
Speaker 6: great job there for a lot of years. And UH
Speaker 6: they're undefeated three and zero, h highly ranked and as
Speaker 6: are we. So should make for a good matchup. And
Speaker 6: UH it'll be a intriguing start for us to the
Speaker 6: uh you know, as as the first conference game, official
Speaker 6: conference game in the Big twelve. So questions, Yes, Justice.
Speaker 1: Says a great game on Saturday.
Speaker 8: By the way, how are you planning on getting the
Speaker 8: secondary out of the compound with the Oklahoma State coming up?
Speaker 5: Because of the game with Utah State they got torched.
Speaker 6: So they got torched. Huh okay, well great, we UH
Speaker 6: give Test States some credit. They made some terrific catches
Speaker 6: in that first uh quarter, UH first half. I guess
Speaker 6: you could say Uh, I thought our secondary was better.
Speaker 6: As the game will on. I ended up intercepting the
Speaker 6: football a couple of times. It made some uh plays
Speaker 6: on the ball up the field in addition to the interceptions.
Speaker 6: But you tested has some really good receivers, uh Bryce
Speaker 6: and Barnes uh s can't say enough good things about him.
Speaker 7: He's a competitive.
Speaker 6: Kid and he uh played very well for him and
Speaker 6: UH we just you know, the entire team needs to
Speaker 6: get better. We we got uh deficiencies like everyone in
Speaker 6: the country does. That's why you go out and practice
Speaker 6: every week. But but uh we felt pretty good about
Speaker 6: our secondaries play overall. I think they were right around
Speaker 6: fifty percent completion percentage, which is uh where you'd like
Speaker 6: to be as a as a defense, you know, keep
Speaker 6: your opponent to fifty percent is uh playing some pretty
Speaker 6: good pass coverage.
Speaker 7: So but we'll, uh we'll.
Speaker 6: Continue to work with those guys and and uh try
Speaker 6: to make uh improvements.
Speaker 9: Kyle, you've had a few freshman qbs over the years
Speaker 9: start for certain games. When you're looking at Isaac what
Speaker 9: a what does what does progression look like to you?
Speaker 9: And how has he kind of tracked in and kind
Speaker 9: of your estimation of who he is as a QB.
Speaker 6: Well progression, there's uh better numbers, uh, you know, numbers
Speaker 6: that are improving.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: I thought he had his best and this is his
Speaker 6: first obviously start an opportunity to have the all the
Speaker 6: reps during the practice week and and get completely tuned
Speaker 6: up for the game. So that's uh you know what
Speaker 6: you look for is is the uh statistical uh part
Speaker 6: of it.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 6: His QBR was was pretty good for the game for
Speaker 6: a true freshman. He needs to continue to uh gain command.
Speaker 7: Of the offense.
Speaker 6: Coach Ludwick's offense is not the easiest offense to to
Speaker 6: uh to learn, but once you get it, it's it's
Speaker 6: very effective. And so he's just continuing to uh attack
Speaker 6: uh whatever that learning curve and and become more comfortable
Speaker 6: with all his reads and and the checks and the
Speaker 6: you know, there's a lover not only in the throw game,
Speaker 6: but in the run game. There's a lot of checks
Speaker 6: that need to be made in the run game. And
Speaker 6: and he's just continue to get better and.
Speaker 7: Better at that.
Speaker 10: After watching the tape, what did you identify as the
Speaker 10: reason the run defense somewhat struggled there against Utah State?
Speaker 6: I would say for the game itself, we were not bad.
Speaker 6: Not our usual would they come away with one hundred
Speaker 6: and forty or one hundred and thirty yards rushing, which
Speaker 6: is typically more than we give up. But give a
Speaker 6: lot of credit to that running back. He was really
Speaker 6: he was physical, he had good speed, good quickness, He
Speaker 6: ran with violence, and he's going to gain a lot
Speaker 6: of the arts this year. He's a quality back and
Speaker 6: that's probably as much as anything else in the game
Speaker 6: is that guy and his ability. But I thought, once again,
Speaker 6: once the defense settled in, we got a lot stingier
Speaker 6: in the run game and played much more effectively down
Speaker 6: the stretch.
Speaker 5: Coach you obviously, Mackay Bernard settling in seems to be
Speaker 5: at RB one. But are you seeing encouraging science from
Speaker 5: Mike Mitchell.
Speaker 7: Yes, we are.
Speaker 6: And he's been hampered by a nagging injury that just
Speaker 6: keeps showing up every week. Uh, not enough to keep
Speaker 6: him completely out of the game, but enough where he's
Speaker 6: got to leave the game at times to to uh,
Speaker 6: to let it.
Speaker 7: Stop hurting, I guess, But but uh.
Speaker 6: He is uh as a freshman doing a nice job.
Speaker 6: That is a good complimentary back to McKay he's a
Speaker 6: bigger back. He's nearly two hundred twenty pounds, and and
Speaker 6: uh w'ere mckaye is uh about two hundred pounds maybe
Speaker 6: two or five. So so he's he's a good compliment,
Speaker 6: gives us good complimentary Uh rushes and k Uh carries
Speaker 6: UH in the game and UH as does uh. Deshaun Stanley.
Speaker 6: He's another guy that contributes to the run game. And
Speaker 6: so between those three guys right now, those three guys
Speaker 6: seem to be the guys that have e merged as
Speaker 6: the the guys that UH at least for the moment
Speaker 6: that we're going with.
Speaker 9: And we've talked a lot about Kivid Lohner and his
Speaker 9: pass catching abilities and all that, But are you seeing
Speaker 9: maybe differences in how teams are going against you when
Speaker 9: he's in the you know, field goal kicking or or
Speaker 9: what advantage does that give to have him there?
Speaker 11: With his hype, his.
Speaker 7: Heights, that is the advantage.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's uh six foot seven plus giant wingspan,
Speaker 6: so that adds to the elevation he gets and he's
Speaker 6: a great leaper. So you put all that together and
Speaker 6: that makes him very effective at that role, that particular
Speaker 6: role in b at field goal block. He's got his
Speaker 6: hands on two of them. Now well would have got
Speaker 6: to I think Van got the first one in the
Speaker 6: in the in the game last week, but Caleb looked
Speaker 6: like it was right on the track for him to
Speaker 6: get it had Van not got the tip. But anyway,
Speaker 6: he's a he's a he's effective in that role, and
Speaker 6: I think you're going to see him become more and
Speaker 6: more of a factor offensively as the season wears. I'll
Speaker 6: remember he's never well I wouldn't say never, but he
Speaker 6: hasn't played much football in his life and it's been several.
Speaker 7: Years since he has.
Speaker 6: And you saw that nice catch and Isaac threw a
Speaker 6: great ball, by the way, that's just how you draw
Speaker 6: that up is he's a throw it up where only
Speaker 6: he can get it, which was the result in the
Speaker 6: game this past weekend. And we're going to try to
Speaker 6: continue to expand his role and give him more opportunities.
Speaker 7: And he is really.
Speaker 6: A tough eager has a great desire to be to
Speaker 6: be successful, and so that's a big part of it,
Speaker 6: and that's why he's off to a good starts because
Speaker 6: of his attitude.
Speaker 10: Kyle has sort of mentioned that it seems like the
Speaker 10: plan is to have camp play. You know, for the
Speaker 10: past two weeks, what conversations have you had with him
Speaker 10: in terms of protecting himself and going into this game
Speaker 10: as specifically conference play. You've also mentioned that you need
Speaker 10: him to win this conference. You know, what things are
Speaker 10: you looking for in terms of you know, what he
Speaker 10: might put on tape or how he needs to protect
Speaker 10: himself going forward.
Speaker 6: Well, what he needs to put on tape is just
Speaker 6: what he's been doing for us really ever since he
Speaker 6: took over. I mean, he's a he's a terrific quarterback.
Speaker 7: When he's on his game.
Speaker 6: He's typically in the top ten in the nation in QBR,
Speaker 6: which again is the barometer that I personally feel is
Speaker 6: the most accurate and best way to assess the quarterback play.
Speaker 6: And you have more of the same as far as
Speaker 6: you're answer to or your question, what have we talked about,
Speaker 6: you know, as far as getting out of harm's way,
Speaker 6: just doing a better job of that. And it goes
Speaker 6: against his grain. A. He's a tough, competitive guy, as
Speaker 6: I've said you know, dozens of times, and it just
Speaker 6: is not natural for him to turn anything down. But
Speaker 6: he's got to. He's got to be able to do that.
Speaker 3: You mentioned offensive line play was kind of hot and
Speaker 3: cold the first couple of weeks of the season. Is
Speaker 3: that still the case. Have you seen them solidify in
Speaker 3: certain areas and where are they still deficient?
Speaker 7: Well, it was.
Speaker 6: Kind of like the rest of the team. They were
Speaker 6: not real good in the first quarter offensive line. That
Speaker 6: was their worst quarter of the game this past weekend.
Speaker 6: But once that was over with them, we started to
Speaker 6: get into a groove. They played exceptionally well, probably played
Speaker 6: their best football the season the last three quarters.
Speaker 7: In the name.
Speaker 6: We rushed for two and almost two hundred and thirty
Speaker 6: yards and five point four carry. I believe it was
Speaker 6: so what we talked about a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 6: in here, the balance that we're looking for and the
Speaker 6: ability to run the ball over five yards a clip,
Speaker 6: you know, two hundred plus yards a game. That's exactly
Speaker 6: what happened in this game. Although it didn't start out
Speaker 6: very good. You know, we were very average at best
Speaker 6: in the first quarter.
Speaker 5: Coach Junior to film in a can a ton of
Speaker 5: asa seem to be really disruptive on the interior. Is
Speaker 5: that kind of what you're hoping to see out of
Speaker 5: them this season.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, I thought they played their best game of the season.
Speaker 6: And I say that it's only three games in, but
Speaker 6: of the three games that those two guys really did
Speaker 6: an excellent job this particular game. And not only from
Speaker 6: a production standpoint, but their leadership is incredible. Those two
Speaker 6: guys are vocal. They have an infectious type of leadership
Speaker 6: that wears that rubs off on everybody else. And it's
Speaker 6: not only in games, it's a practice as well, in
Speaker 6: the weight room, everything they do. Those guys coming to
Speaker 6: the facility with a great attitude, their upbeat and uh,
Speaker 6: like I said, they're exactly the kind of guys you
Speaker 6: want to playing for.
Speaker 10: Kyle, What have you seen on tape from Oklahoma State's
Speaker 10: run game? You know, Ollie Gordon is one of the
Speaker 10: best running backs in the nation. How do you think
Speaker 10: you guys are gonna have to defend them heading into
Speaker 10: this week and so forth.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna have to, uh be good tacklers. He's
Speaker 6: He's a guy that breaks a lot of tackles. He's
Speaker 6: a big back, you know, it's over six feet and
Speaker 6: over two hundred twenty pounds and and just wears you out.
Speaker 6: I mean he's a he's kind of a bully back there,
Speaker 6: and uh that's his style and and uh very rarely
Speaker 6: is the first guy gonna gonna stop his stop his charge.
Speaker 6: But but it's gonna be a have to be a
Speaker 6: concerted effort by the whole front seven to to uh
Speaker 6: gang tackle and and wrap up, in which we didn't
Speaker 6: do a good job of early in the game this
Speaker 6: past weekend, as we said, so we gotta we.
Speaker 7: Gotta do uh a better job of that.
Speaker 6: But but uh, he's uh got all our respect and
Speaker 6: uh all our attention, and he's a guy that, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, he's one of the premier backs in the country.
Speaker 6: I don't know what more he can say.
Speaker 5: Coach a couple of new faces on the defense side
Speaker 5: of the ball, Jonathan Hall Rabbit Evans. What did you
Speaker 5: see from them in their first action this season?
Speaker 6: Some good stuff, especially from John All thought he made
Speaker 6: a bunch of plays.
Speaker 7: I think he had.
Speaker 6: Thirty six snaps if I remember correctly the great sheets
Speaker 6: that we do every week, and really was productive. He's
Speaker 6: a very sure tackler. He's a guy that once he
Speaker 6: gets his hands on you, hits over. I mean, he
Speaker 6: can tackle as good as as anybody. We got rabbit,
Speaker 6: some hot and some cold. He made some nice plays,
Speaker 6: a few assignment errs. He's he's still learning. He did
Speaker 6: not get here till late in the summer, and so
Speaker 6: kind of like Coach love MC's offense, Coach Scaley's defense
Speaker 6: is pretty evolved and and there's a learning curve there,
Speaker 6: so so he's working hard to get up to speed,
Speaker 6: but he's just still not quite as assignment sound as
Speaker 6: he needs to be.
Speaker 7: But the ability is there.
Speaker 6: He's got a lot of ability and and very proud
Speaker 6: of Camp Calhoun. We haven't talked about him and he
Speaker 6: he stepped in and and gave us some uh, very
Speaker 6: good play on Saturday. He had that one nice interception
Speaker 6: and some other really good uh coverage reps.
Speaker 7: So he's that that's.
Speaker 6: Huge for us to see him play like he did,
Speaker 6: and it just gives us that much more depth and
Speaker 6: one more guy that we can we can go to
Speaker 6: in the secondary.
Speaker 9: Karan Reid seems to be a calming force and kind
Speaker 9: of a communicator on that defensive side. When he's not there,
Speaker 9: how does your defense change and kind of what are
Speaker 9: you looking for if you know, for guys to step
Speaker 9: up or what what kind of happens with Tha's up there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, first of all, has immediate replacement is the
Speaker 6: only foe.
Speaker 7: Two.
Speaker 6: He's the one that has taken the the reps that
Speaker 6: uh Karny, you know, by missing Coarny, and he's the
Speaker 6: guy that's filled in.
Speaker 7: But uh John o'hall.
Speaker 6: Is gonna be in that role as well and start
Speaker 6: to get uh more reps. Uh A lot more falls
Speaker 6: onto landerd Barton when Karnie's not in there to run
Speaker 6: the show in the front and make sure that guys
Speaker 6: are lined up correctly and and h where they're supposed
Speaker 6: to be, and that we put a lot of the
Speaker 6: onus of that uh the front onlie. It's on the
Speaker 6: linebackers to get those guys straight and you know, based
Speaker 6: on formation and communicate uh as far as where they
Speaker 6: need to be. So so Landon Martin's got probably the
Speaker 6: biggest job when Current's not in there because it really
Speaker 6: falls on to him.
Speaker 10: Kind of tiggybacking off of that, do you think not
Speaker 10: having corne out on the field last week sort of
Speaker 10: impacted how your run defense operated and so forth.
Speaker 6: Anytime you lose a good football player, there's you know,
Speaker 6: there's uh some uh diminished results. And and not that
Speaker 6: the guys that played for him didn't do a good job,
Speaker 6: cause they did. But if it didn't matter who's out there,
Speaker 6: you know, it wouldn't matter. But it does matter. I mean,
Speaker 6: you put your best guys out there for a reason.
Speaker 6: And so he's a he's a team leader. He's a
Speaker 6: he's a very experienced, very fundamentally and technique sound linebacker
Speaker 6: that does everything right and uh seldom, if ever makes
Speaker 6: a mental mistake. So he and he's one of our captains.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, so he's he definitely provides a
Speaker 6: lot and brings a lot to the table. And you
Speaker 6: do miss those guys when are not there. But that
Speaker 6: being said, it's part of the game. So it's next
Speaker 6: man at mentality, as it always is, and next guy's
Speaker 6: got to step up as well as a supporting cast.
Speaker 6: We talked about that last week, that handling university not
Speaker 6: only comes from your oppoland, but from within when you're
Speaker 6: dealing with injuries and things that go awry.
Speaker 3: Coach Gundy and yourself got your jobs within a few
Speaker 3: weeks of each other back in two thousand and five.
Speaker 3: Can you compare contrast? Maybe look at some parallels that
Speaker 3: allow you guys to have the same job for so long.
Speaker 7: That's a good question.
Speaker 6: I don't really because, you know, being in the Pac
Speaker 6: twelve and obviously the Mountain West before that, completely separate
Speaker 6: from the Big twelve. We didn't have a lot of
Speaker 6: crossover games with the Big twelve, just a few here
Speaker 6: and there, But certainly have been aware of his success.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's done a terrific job, and that's ultimately
Speaker 6: the bottom line. If you're not successful, you're not going
Speaker 6: to be in a job for very long. And so
Speaker 6: he's done a good job of winning and being consistent
Speaker 6: and seems to be every year.
Speaker 7: I mean every year there there there.
Speaker 6: You know what you're gonna get from them, and they
Speaker 6: they're guys, play hard, and they're well coached, and the
Speaker 6: personnel is good.
Speaker 5: Coach, we know you're a big day game type guy.
Speaker 5: But the Arizona game was announced eight fifteen PM. Fans
Speaker 5: love it. What makes that atmosphere so special?
Speaker 7: I don't know, but it is.
Speaker 6: Uh, it is kind of magical at rice cycles and
Speaker 6: night games and and I didn't know that you just
Speaker 6: I just realized that Jordani's failed to tell me that.
Speaker 7: But that's okay.
Speaker 6: I I'll never complain about kickoff times, but preferences sooner
Speaker 6: the better.
Speaker 7: I'd rather play at four in the morning if we
Speaker 7: could just get them go.
Speaker 6: But but I just hate waiting around for you know,
Speaker 6: all day on Saturday for games.
Speaker 7: But but it doesn't really matter what I like or
Speaker 7: don't like it.
Speaker 6: But Rice cycles back to your question is I don't
Speaker 6: know other than the it just seems to be electric
Speaker 6: at night. And I don't have a great answer for it.
Speaker 6: But it sure is an advantage for us, a definite advantage.
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Speaker 1: Josh Furlong covers the the utes for Ksel. Josh, Happy Monday, man,
Speaker 1: how are we doing?
Speaker 11: Happy Monday? Good to be here? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? I appreciate your time. So what questions did
Speaker 1: Isaac Wilson answer in your opinion? Josh on Saturday?
Speaker 11: I think it's, you know, if he's capable of being
Speaker 11: able to back up Cam rising right. I don't know
Speaker 11: that there's some er shattering question about what this projects
Speaker 11: for his future, but I think, you know, it showed
Speaker 11: what he's able to do and that he's able to
Speaker 11: actually lead the offense in a way that it gives
Speaker 11: them confidence. So I think, by and large, that's probably
Speaker 11: the biggest question that was answered. You know, it had
Speaker 11: its mistakes, it wasn't perfect, but I think it showed
Speaker 11: that he's able to do it, and especially in a
Speaker 11: way where you have to come from behind and kind
Speaker 11: of help your team rally. So I think it was
Speaker 11: all good things for him and in his progression as
Speaker 11: a freshman.
Speaker 1: QB tell us what I mean by all accounts. I
Speaker 1: know they don't update injury situations, but it does feel
Speaker 1: like everyone is expecting Cameron to be back or okay State.
Speaker 1: Is that your understanding, Josh.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's the understanding. I mean, there's always things that
Speaker 11: could happen in the course of the week, but the
Speaker 11: guess is that Cam will be able to go, and
Speaker 11: that this was an opportunity for Isaac to get the
Speaker 11: start but also to heal up Cam. And now it
Speaker 11: gets into conference plane, we're back to having the QB
Speaker 11: one back on the sidelines and the center and everything
Speaker 11: should be okay.
Speaker 1: So what and coach Wit talked about this during his
Speaker 1: media talked about it after the game. In your opinion,
Speaker 1: what was the luck you go up, You get to
Speaker 1: win without your starting quarterback, without one of your best
Speaker 1: defensive players in Karin Reid? All good, all good, It's
Speaker 1: all good. You got to win, that's fine. But Kyle
Speaker 1: talked about the issues, and certainly this was not a
Speaker 1: super clean performance. Credit coach driveling in Utah State for
Speaker 1: playing hard and at some point giving a lot of
Speaker 1: you fans some anxiety. What were the biggest holes, Josh
Speaker 1: in your opinion for Utah's win against Utah State.
Speaker 11: To me, it has to be the run blocking game, right,
Speaker 11: Like I mean, the the Utah's defense didn't do a
Speaker 11: great job of filling those holes at times and being
Speaker 11: able to stop the run. Granted, Utah State has a
Speaker 11: phenomenal running back that was able to make a lot
Speaker 11: of plays and really expose some of the things that
Speaker 11: Utah was experiencing. Yeah, some of that, you know, like
Speaker 11: Kyle said, was they're trying to mix up their defense
Speaker 11: and trying to do something so that Bryson didn't have
Speaker 11: an understanding of what was going on, But I think
Speaker 11: there's still real world things that you have to look at, right, Like,
Speaker 11: you have to be able to contain better. They've got
Speaker 11: to be able to crash the line better and being
Speaker 11: able to get those havoc plays. And there were absolutely
Speaker 11: times where Utah was eating up that backfield and doing well,
Speaker 11: but then they're exposing this Elton lane for Bryson or
Speaker 11: one of the running backs or somebody else to get there,
Speaker 11: and so that's a big issue. Outside of that, I
Speaker 11: think it's the secondary. I think it's, you know, in
Speaker 11: an inexperienced group that there still needs to be some
Speaker 11: better communication between them all. There were a few plays
Speaker 11: where guys were just kind of left on an island
Speaker 11: and didn't really understand what they were supposed to do
Speaker 11: and then they got beat. And so I think that's
Speaker 11: going to come. But if that communication doesn't get there,
Speaker 11: I think that that is a world to hurt for Utah,
Speaker 11: Right Like I think the step off front will sell,
Speaker 11: you know, work its way out and everything will be there,
Speaker 11: But that secondary is really kind of my concern, and
Speaker 11: I would say, you know, you want to see a
Speaker 11: little bit more of these guys being able to go
Speaker 11: toe to toe, but Utah State has some phenomenal receivers
Speaker 11: and did a good job. But it's just, you know,
Speaker 11: you want to be able to have those things under
Speaker 11: wraps a little bit before you get into conference play.
Speaker 11: But it's just going to be a work in progress,
Speaker 11: and it's always going to be about needing more reps
Speaker 11: and needing more film and being able to be out there.
Speaker 11: But I think you're seeing some good things from them.
Speaker 11: It's just going to take some time.
Speaker 1: So I referenced Karente and I was on the sideline
Speaker 1: when he limped off. You know, a couple of weeks back.
Speaker 1: I did not know he was going to miss time.
Speaker 1: But do you have an update on Karena read leading
Speaker 1: into Okay State and attendant to it, any other injuries
Speaker 1: that we should be aware of, or how healthy is
Speaker 1: Utah coming in Saturday?
Speaker 11: By and large, Utah is mostly healthy, but there's a
Speaker 11: few lingering things like the Karni stuff. You know, I
Speaker 11: think he's he's questionable for this weekend. I think just
Speaker 11: the nature of his injury is tough to be able
Speaker 11: to get in there. But you know they're going to
Speaker 11: work really hard to try to get him back because
Speaker 11: he is that vocal leader of that defense, and so
Speaker 11: if you have him out that really impacts it beyond him.
Speaker 11: Connor o' toole kind of got injured in the game.
Speaker 11: I don't know his status yet. I haven't been able
Speaker 11: to hear anything on him, but if he's not available,
Speaker 11: that is a bit concerning. Utah does have the talent
Speaker 11: and the depths to be able to absorb that a
Speaker 11: little bit more than maybe linebacker. But anytime you're losing
Speaker 11: any of those elite you know, pass rushers, that that
Speaker 11: hurts your ability to be able to crash the line,
Speaker 11: and especially against a veteran offensive line like Oklahoma State,
Speaker 11: you need those guys to be able to be there.
Speaker 11: But you know, all in all, Utah is healthy. It's
Speaker 11: just you know, a little nick and things that are
Speaker 11: going to hold out some guys and they may not
Speaker 11: have everybody available. But I think KARENI is probably the
Speaker 11: guy that you're praying gets back sooner than later, just
Speaker 11: because of what he does for that defense. Of the
Speaker 11: communication aspects that he brings.
Speaker 1: Have you been able to so obviously. And it's different
Speaker 1: because Cameron Rising and brand Keith eve been playing together
Speaker 1: for years and so there's going to be a comfortability
Speaker 1: factor there, and we're going to see Cameron's eyes go
Speaker 1: towards brand quite a bit. Have you been able to
Speaker 1: in your time watching Isaac play decide for who his
Speaker 1: safety net is, who his favorite target is, the weapon
Speaker 1: who he seems to have the best chemistry with as
Speaker 1: of right now.
Speaker 11: Oh, that's a good question. I don't know that he's
Speaker 11: necessarily had a favorite target. He's spread it out a
Speaker 11: little bit. Brand is still probably the safety net there
Speaker 11: just because of what he does, and I think Utah
Speaker 11: utilizes him in that way where they give him an
Speaker 11: easy pass to be able to get out of right.
Speaker 11: Like there was a play on Saturday where Brandt rolled
Speaker 11: out and it was out in the flats and able
Speaker 11: to be kind of that easy pass, and Isaac's took
Speaker 11: a better shot. But I think, you know, he still
Speaker 11: hasn't found that guy that I think he trusts fool,
Speaker 11: not that he doesn't trust, but I don't think he
Speaker 11: has that you know, connection that Cam and Brandt have.
Speaker 11: But if there is another one that I would say
Speaker 11: maybe Caleb Loaner. He feels really comfortable with him in
Speaker 11: the end zone. Obviously, that's two touchdowns that the two
Speaker 11: have probably a really easy guy to get the ball to,
Speaker 11: especially since the guy's like a foot and a half
Speaker 11: taller than everybody when he jumps up. So I think
Speaker 11: that's probably going to continue to be a main connection,
Speaker 11: and especially if Loner gets more into this offense, like
Speaker 11: Kyle Woodingham says he's going to, I feel like that
Speaker 11: could be kind of his safety net, especially when things
Speaker 11: go wrong.
Speaker 1: I think you asked Coach Waitt the question about Caleb's
Speaker 1: I want to ask you kind of the same question
Speaker 1: because I am really fascinated with this story. Everyone else.
Speaker 1: I'm a basketball guy. I love football, I love basketball,
Speaker 1: love college basketball. And you know, Caleb was a hell
Speaker 1: of an athlete when he was high school basketball player.
Speaker 1: Athleticism was never his issue as a basketball player. He's
Speaker 1: one of the elite athletes on every team he played
Speaker 1: for Utah BYU Baylor. Just strictly from an explosive athleticism standpoint,
Speaker 1: he's never fully, in my opinion, add the cultivated skill
Speaker 1: set to be anything other than a decent college player
Speaker 1: and maybe a European pro who knows. But now he's
Speaker 1: leaned into this thing, and I got to give the
Speaker 1: kid credit. Man that's a hard thing to do. He's
Speaker 1: shown a lot of courage, shown a lot of bravery,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure coach witness staff saw a lot of
Speaker 1: potential in Caleb, hence given him the opportunity. But it's
Speaker 1: looked really good. What do you think this can look like, Josh,
Speaker 1: when it's fully baked?
Speaker 11: Honestly, like the way of ease that Caleb is doing this,
Speaker 11: it almost almost makes it seem like, you know, football
Speaker 11: team should just be scouting some of these basketball players naturally,
Speaker 11: you know, like it's it should just come this easy.
Speaker 11: I know it's not that easy, right, Like I understand
Speaker 11: conceptually this isn't an easy thing, but Caleb is making
Speaker 11: it in such a way that it does feel that way.
Speaker 11: And then you see him on the field and what
Speaker 11: kind of a playmaker he can be. You know, he's
Speaker 11: he's shifty, he's got versatility just because of how he's
Speaker 11: been able to play basketball and being able to move quickly.
Speaker 11: But he's big enough. But there's just not really much
Speaker 11: you can do to stop him unless you get a
Speaker 11: bigger body corner or some other you know guy on him.
Speaker 11: But it becomes a great situation for Utah. Whereas if
Speaker 11: he continues to progress, you know, I don't know how
Speaker 11: you stop somebody like a Caleb Bowner, right, Like he
Speaker 11: probably went into college thinking that he's going to go
Speaker 11: play in the NBA or like you said, go overseas
Speaker 11: in Europe. This honestly could be a situation where he
Speaker 11: could get NFL teams calling him and like, I don't
Speaker 11: want to get too crazy, and I don't want to
Speaker 11: like jump the shark, but I think if you can
Speaker 11: continue to see projections of where he's at versus where
Speaker 11: he was maybe even six months ago, there's a real
Speaker 11: optimistic side of this game where he can be an
Speaker 11: NFL player. You can go in there and you can
Speaker 11: do these things that are going to be able to
Speaker 11: be dynamic and and help your teams win. You know,
Speaker 11: I still feel like we haven't We've only scratched the
Speaker 11: surface with Caleb. What he does in the passing game
Speaker 11: obviously is great because of his size, but I think
Speaker 11: even in the field goal unit, right where he's able
Speaker 11: to just deflect passes or not passes the field goals,
Speaker 11: but also just kind of divert the trajectory of where
Speaker 11: these are going to go because of his wingspan, that
Speaker 11: alone is pretty phenomenal. So it's a fun storyline that
Speaker 11: I'm really intrigued to continue to watch because I think
Speaker 11: if he continues to show strides and progression, you're going
Speaker 11: to see a lot more people wanting to go get
Speaker 11: basketball players to fill their tight end room and see
Speaker 11: what they can do to disrupt what traditional college football
Speaker 11: has run.
Speaker 1: We've seen Jalen Glover in the past have great games
Speaker 1: against UCLA and a tough win against Colorado. In a
Speaker 1: tough win, I mean we're talking about touchdowns one hundred
Speaker 1: and seven yards against Colorado. Even two years ago the
Speaker 1: win up on the polue, he had twenty carries for
Speaker 1: seventy six in a touchdown. Is he the fifth running
Speaker 1: back on this team? Any insight as to why Jalen
Speaker 1: seems to have fallen out of favor in that running
Speaker 1: back room.
Speaker 11: I don't know if he's in the necessarily a spot right.
Speaker 11: I think it's more just kind of his attention to
Speaker 11: detail and wanting to be able to be fully engaged
Speaker 11: in the system. So, you know, I think there are
Speaker 11: aspects where he is getting passed up by guys that
Speaker 11: are willing to put in more of the work. But
Speaker 11: I think it just comes down to a guy that
Speaker 11: needs to follow the system, do the things that Quinton
Speaker 11: Ganther wants him to do, and if he does, I
Speaker 11: think he's still in that mix right in the top three.
Speaker 11: Early on that was the case. Kyle had talked about
Speaker 11: him being in that mix and wasn't giving any indication
Speaker 11: that he wasn't. Even when he talked about Dejon Stanley,
Speaker 11: it was kind of like he was kind of more
Speaker 11: of a gadget type player where he was going to
Speaker 11: come in in certain situations. But now you're seeing that change.
Speaker 11: To me, that just is more like Utah trying to
Speaker 11: get him to wake up and trying to do the
Speaker 11: things that he needs to do to see the field,
Speaker 11: and if he's not going to do it, it's not
Speaker 11: going to work. One of the interesting things is, you know,
Speaker 11: you could see on Saturday that he wanted to leave
Speaker 11: the field pretty quickly and there was you know, someone
Speaker 11: on on the staff that you know, kind of crolled
Speaker 11: him and brought him in with the rest of the
Speaker 11: team to celebrate the win. But it's not you know,
Speaker 11: this is just an observed observation. It's it's not a
Speaker 11: good situation for him, right now, you know, and I
Speaker 11: think there's a lot of conversations they're going to have
Speaker 11: to be had, and if he wants to stay with Utah,
Speaker 11: you know, things are going to have to change. I
Speaker 11: don't know fully to the extent of what that is,
Speaker 11: but I think it's a situation where Clinton Ganther and
Speaker 11: Kyle Whittingham are going to want to see a lot
Speaker 11: more improvement for him to ever see the field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel like we've landed in a spot
Speaker 1: where it's going to be mackay and Mike kind of
Speaker 1: one two? And how strong is that hold on the
Speaker 1: number one job from McKay Bernard Because there's a lot
Speaker 1: to like about the way Mike runs and you can
Speaker 1: tell Kyle likes and what he's asked about him. But
Speaker 1: of course Makai is getting more carries and he's playing well.
Speaker 1: So you think we've kind of landed on the running
Speaker 1: back solution. It's kind of played itself out where it
Speaker 1: will be McKai Bernard and Mike Mitchell kind of one two.
Speaker 11: It's probably as close as you're to get it this year.
Speaker 11: I think mackay has done a good job of being
Speaker 11: able to establish himself as that lead guy. I don't
Speaker 11: know that he's firmly established it in the way that
Speaker 11: Mike couldn't surpass him. I think the biggest issue there
Speaker 11: is Mike is injured. You know, he's he's got a
Speaker 11: hobbling injury with his ankle that it is kind of
Speaker 11: similar to what you saw at ja Quindin last year,
Speaker 11: where you're going to get him a few times out
Speaker 11: on the field and then he's going to have to
Speaker 11: be you know, taped up again. I think that's what's
Speaker 11: limiting Mike. You know, there's still aspects of Mitchell's game
Speaker 11: that you want to be able to see him have
Speaker 11: a better vision, you know, hit the holes a little differently,
Speaker 11: not just go fully into contact. But I think you're
Speaker 11: seeing a lot of optimism on in his game that
Speaker 11: that leads me to think that he could surpass Mackay.
Speaker 11: I just it just isn't. I'm going to come down
Speaker 11: to help. But for Mackay's standpoint, I mean, I think
Speaker 11: he's done everything that he needs to. I think, you know,
Speaker 11: he's he is what he is, and there's things that
Speaker 11: he still needs to learn and same type of vision situations,
Speaker 11: but he's finding ways to be able to be in
Speaker 11: an impact player in the game, and that's exactly what
Speaker 11: Utah needs, right They need somebody that's going to go
Speaker 11: in there. They're going to fight for yards, They're gonna
Speaker 11: do whatever they need to to be able to move
Speaker 11: the ball. And that guy's micout and as long as
Speaker 11: you have him continually fighting and continually working hard, I
Speaker 11: don't know that it mattered if he's the established RB one.
Speaker 11: I think they want somebody to be there, But I
Speaker 11: think it's a good thing to be able to have,
Speaker 11: you know, guys that they can mix and match, and
Speaker 11: I think those two compliment each other pretty well.
Speaker 1: All right, Josh, As I've referenced to you before, I
Speaker 1: am a former Twitter addict in recovery, so I do
Speaker 1: not watch games and I'm not connected to my phone
Speaker 1: the way I used to be. I do not live
Speaker 1: on the internet in a way that I used to be.
Speaker 1: So I need to know from somebody who tweets the
Speaker 1: way you do and has the poults of youth fans
Speaker 1: the way you do. When Utah State went up fourteen
Speaker 1: three and the offense for Utah wasn't looking great, what
Speaker 1: was the panic meter like online? Were folks legitimately concerned
Speaker 1: or did it feel like most youth fans understood, like, hey,
Speaker 1: give it some time, it'll kind of even its way out.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 11: I think there was a legit panic, right. I think
Speaker 11: there was a lot of people thinking that this was over.
Speaker 11: You know, Utah was going to lose, especially with the
Speaker 11: way that Utah's offense wasn't able to move the ball
Speaker 11: and how well Bryson Barnes was able to move utah
Speaker 11: States offense. You know, this guy was falling in a
Speaker 11: large part, and that tends to happen sometimes in games.
Speaker 11: But I think it just felt really dangerous of what
Speaker 11: Utah was doing. But I think by and large, by
Speaker 11: the end of the game, fans were pretty happy with
Speaker 11: what they saw. You saw in Isaac Wilson that really
Speaker 11: settled in, understood what it took to be able to
Speaker 11: get over the edge. And in that second half especially,
Speaker 11: he kind of he reverted back to looking like he
Speaker 11: was in high school in the sense that he was comfortable.
Speaker 11: He knew he could be on the field with those guys,
Speaker 11: he knew he could beat those guys. And I think
Speaker 11: you leave that game optimistic in a fan, knowing that
Speaker 11: there's still some things that Utah has to correct, right.
Speaker 11: I think that was the Twitter fan based kind of
Speaker 11: looking at it. But I think it's it's always entertaining
Speaker 11: to kind of watch how fans overreact or or kind
Speaker 11: of sense these games. But you know, you get it.
Speaker 11: That game didn't start out well. Honestly, if not for
Speaker 11: that Smith Snowden interception, which was remarkable by the way,
Speaker 11: he very well could have been twenty one three And
Speaker 11: does Utah have what it takes to get back into
Speaker 11: that one so interesting situation, but it's definitely reacting in
Speaker 11: life form to watch that on Twitter.
Speaker 1: And I definitely get it, by the way. I mean,
Speaker 1: I said prior to the game, this one felt just
Speaker 1: a little tricky. I didn't think I picked them to win,
Speaker 1: but not cover, which is what happened. They you know,
Speaker 1: the line was eighteen. They won by seventeen. But Josh,
Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately, you know the deal. You've been covering
Speaker 1: this for a while in state game. You know a
Speaker 1: lot of those Utah staid players, and they deserve credit.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: They came out and played well. They punched Utah in
Speaker 1: the mouth. You're without QB one, You're without a very
Speaker 1: underrated piece of your defense in Karred like that did
Speaker 1: have Josh some of the yellows of an upset alert
Speaker 1: watch situation every weekend in college football, tell me gets
Speaker 1: got And you know, for a minute, it did feel
Speaker 1: a little bit dicey.
Speaker 11: I'm not gonna lie absolutely. I mean, Utes State has
Speaker 11: nothing to lose. I mean, you go into that game
Speaker 11: after a blowout loss to USC. You know it's not
Speaker 11: conference plans, but there's not really anything on the line
Speaker 11: in terms of that. But you've got an opportunity to
Speaker 11: upset a team that is expected to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 11: So of course you're going to go out there and
Speaker 11: you're going to play with this reckless abandon in some respects, right,
Speaker 11: You're going to go out there and you're going to
Speaker 11: be the team that if you overpursue, so be it.
Speaker 11: At least you tried. That's exactly how it felt, right.
Speaker 11: Utes State put everything out at the very beginning. They
Speaker 11: were crashing the line, they were the most physical. They
Speaker 11: absolutely made Utah kind of have to reset and figure
Speaker 11: out what they were needing to do, and it shows
Speaker 11: that they can be a good team. But this is
Speaker 11: a situation where Utah it kind of shows that if
Speaker 11: they're not always constantly focusing on what game they're they're
Speaker 11: currently in. There's a chance that they're not going to
Speaker 11: have those those post season opportunities. Right Being the team
Speaker 11: at the top of the perspective Big twelve, you're gonna
Speaker 11: get everybody's best. And that doesn't mean it's not just
Speaker 11: Utah State. It's gonna be Oklahoma State, it's gonna Arizona,
Speaker 11: it's going to be all these teams, and so you
Speaker 11: can't have a day off. I don't think Utah was
Speaker 11: trying for a day off by any means, but I
Speaker 11: do think that they got a little casual in what
Speaker 11: they thought they could do based on that USC game.
Speaker 11: With you, Utah State, they kind of got into it
Speaker 11: and said, we're going to roll over these guys. We're
Speaker 11: gonna be okay, we don't even need Cam for this game.
Speaker 11: We're gonna go with Isaac and its first start. Those
Speaker 11: types of things start creeping in and it becomes a
Speaker 11: very dangerous game, and Utah State absolutely took advantage of it,
Speaker 11: and there's opportunities there that they had that Honestly, Utah
Speaker 11: may have been in a much closer game if not
Speaker 11: for maybe a few mispasses or interceptions. So fun game.
Speaker 11: But yeah, I mean Utah has to learn from that
Speaker 11: moment and address that as they move forward this season.
Speaker 1: All right, Josh, last thing and I'll set you loose.
Speaker 1: It's a big week, man, It's Okay State week. We've
Speaker 1: been circling this game for a while now. The line
Speaker 1: opened as Okay State as a slight favorite, is moved
Speaker 1: all the way towards the Utes. As of now, they're
Speaker 1: a one point five point favorite. Utah State was able
Speaker 1: to get some yards on the ground, and that's what
Speaker 1: Mike Gunny wants to do. They have the best running
Speaker 1: back in the country, won the Doak Walker a year ago,
Speaker 1: and Olie Gordon, who's off to a fine start, but
Speaker 1: he's not dominated. He's averaging three point five carry's got
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, two hundred and sixteen yards on sixty two carries.
Speaker 1: That's not gonna be an easy place to play. Never
Speaker 1: been a still water maybe one day, not necessarily on
Speaker 1: the bucket list, but give us a little preview for
Speaker 1: Utah Okay State coming up on Saturday.
Speaker 11: Yeah, this is for all intents and purposes, This is
Speaker 11: for the Big twelve title, right, This is probably Utah's
Speaker 11: toughest game this season, at least where they're at right now.
Speaker 11: And as we see these teams and so Utah's gonna
Speaker 11: have to go into this game ready. Well, Oli Gordon
Speaker 11: obviously is going to be their biggest concern. They're going
Speaker 11: to have to look at that and make sure that
Speaker 11: they can contain him. I always caution people to look
Speaker 11: at the first few games and maybe he's not going
Speaker 11: off for the most you know, yards or whatever. He's
Speaker 11: going to be motivated for this game, right he wants
Speaker 11: to be able to showcase. And not that he hasn't
Speaker 11: been motivated for the others, but this being a conference game,
Speaker 11: he sees that he has to be better. This is
Speaker 11: going to be a tough game for Utah and if
Speaker 11: they have any of those issues that they had against
Speaker 11: Utah State, this could be a very long day. Outside
Speaker 11: of that, you have a quarterback that has been pretty solid.
Speaker 11: You know, he's in my opinion, he's kind of like
Speaker 11: a Bryson Barnes. He can beat you, but he also
Speaker 11: doesn't have the highest upside. He's had a great year,
Speaker 11: but he's not a mobile So really, to me, it
Speaker 11: comes down to is if you can contain Ali Gordon.
Speaker 11: I think Utah has a good shot of being able
Speaker 11: to do this. Try to get the momentum early. Don't
Speaker 11: let that crowd into the game, because they will fight back.
Speaker 11: They're good. Mike Gundy knows what he's doing, you know,
Speaker 11: obviously he's been in that position forever and knows what
Speaker 11: it takes to win. So you really kind of have
Speaker 11: to start that game hot. You've got to dictate it.
Speaker 11: You've got to hope that if it is Cam Rising,
Speaker 11: that he starts out really well and that they can
Speaker 11: move that offense, because if other not, you're going to
Speaker 11: have a team that's going to fight back and really
Speaker 11: battle it back and make you pay if you're not
Speaker 11: on your best game. So it should be a fun game.
Speaker 11: I'm excited for it. Still Water seems like it's a
Speaker 11: great college town and really curious to see how these
Speaker 11: two teams battle it out and what could honestly be
Speaker 11: kind of like the Big twelve title game.
Speaker 1: All right, Josh, thanks for the time, man, have a
Speaker 1: great week and we'll catch up soon.
Speaker 11: Sounds great.
Speaker 4: It's Monday afternoon after another exciting college football weekend. Settle
Speaker 4: in as Spence gives you this week's edition of the
Speaker 4: Big twelve Power Rankings brought to you by the Murdock
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Speaker 1: All Right, Big twelve Power Ranking Style. We do it
Speaker 1: every single Monday on the show. Happy Monday to you.
Speaker 1: Hope you out a great weekend. Little Monday Night football
Speaker 1: tonight to wrap up the weekend in pro football. You
Speaker 1: can hear the game on this radio station. It's going
Speaker 1: to be the Eagles taking on the Falcons. AJ Brown
Speaker 1: is out with a hamstring injury. So some Monday Night football. First,
Speaker 1: just a quick review of our picks. We went five
Speaker 1: and one last week. We went I checked during the break.
Speaker 1: We actually went three and three this week, so we
Speaker 1: are currently eight and four, which isn't bad. All right, now,
Speaker 1: remember the Roger Federer lesson right, what did we what
Speaker 1: did we learn from? Roger Feeder gave a commencement speaks recently.
Speaker 1: He won like fifty two percent of his points throughout
Speaker 1: the course of his career. A lot of people think
Speaker 1: he's the greatest tennis player of all time. Slow burn, kids,
Speaker 1: That's all we're trying to do. So we went three
Speaker 1: and three. We picked the Utah game correctly, said the
Speaker 1: Utes would win but not cover. The line was eighteen.
Speaker 1: They won by seventeen. We gave you Oregon over Oregon
Speaker 1: State in the Civil War? Are we allowed to call that? Is?
Speaker 1: Is that still the Civil war? We it is? We're
Speaker 1: allowed to say.
Speaker 3: That civil war?
Speaker 1: Holy war?
Speaker 11: All right?
Speaker 1: Just lean it. Well, I don't know. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: still tear down statues. I lost track. What's like, what's
Speaker 1: the deal depends on the statue? Okay, no argument there.
Speaker 1: So we lost Colorado. I thought I thought Colorado States
Speaker 1: give them more of a battle. They did not. And
Speaker 1: then Oklahoma barely covered against Tulane. We picked Oklahoma to win,
Speaker 1: but Tulane to cover. So that went the other way.
Speaker 1: So we got Utah Oregon and BYU correct, we got
Speaker 1: Colorado Tulane and the other one we picked was Missouri
Speaker 1: to win, but they did not cover. I thought they
Speaker 1: would over Bill Bryan and Boston College. So three and
Speaker 1: three stuff to win money gambling on sports. That's why
Speaker 1: I say, don't do it almost every day on the show.
Speaker 1: All right, Porter, I cheated. I listed seven teams. Seven teams.
Speaker 1: There's seven teams undefeated. Oh really, so we got it? Okay,
Speaker 1: So I went I went, so all right, I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you did too. So I'll give you the floor.
Speaker 1: You can go first. You can start at seven and
Speaker 1: go to one, and then I'll give you mine.
Speaker 3: Well at seven. And I have them in there because
Speaker 3: they have not lost a game and they have a chance,
Speaker 3: let's be cleared this weekend to jump a lot higher
Speaker 3: than seven. It is the BYU Cougars. Now, you know,
Speaker 3: it hasn't been anything ultra impressive. They're working through some
Speaker 3: quarterback issues, but the defense has been good. They've been,
Speaker 3: you know, leaning on some of their best players, and
Speaker 3: Kloni's coached his tailoff. I think in the in the
Speaker 3: first three games they needed to be cleaned through non
Speaker 3: conference in order to kind of have this, uh, this
Speaker 3: kind of season on the table. But still nothing all
Speaker 3: that impressive to to to bump them up in the ranking.
Speaker 3: So they're at number seven. I got ASU at number six,
Speaker 3: and the thing with ASU is I like a bunch
Speaker 3: of the players that are on their roster, but just
Speaker 3: seems messy down there. It doesn't seem real clean. And
Speaker 3: I've got them at six the top five, which is
Speaker 3: of course what we are looking at this year. Iowa
Speaker 3: State is my number five team. They of course only
Speaker 3: two games, they've already had a buy but one of
Speaker 3: their wins against Iowa that the defense is really solid,
Speaker 3: and Spence I will say, when we're looking at teams
Speaker 3: can win the conference, I don't know that I really
Speaker 3: put Iowa State in that in that conversation yet or
Speaker 3: really will put them in that conversation this year. But
Speaker 3: when it comes to teams that can give Utah trouble,
Speaker 3: Iowa State's one that I really do look at. The
Speaker 3: three three five defense, that they run a lot, to
Speaker 3: the looks that they throw at you, that's a team
Speaker 3: to look at in that regard. At number four, after
Speaker 3: a big win over TCU, the only conference wins so far,
Speaker 3: UCF comes in at number four. I think they've got
Speaker 3: a lot of talent. If they can pull it together,
Speaker 3: they can absolutely contend for this conference in the long stretch.
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State the youth's opponent, coming in at number three
Speaker 3: for me, and then number two. The only real reason
Speaker 3: I found any delineation between Kansas State Oklahoma State so
Speaker 3: far was because of that big win over a conference
Speaker 3: opponent in Arizona that Kansas State got, and they looked
Speaker 3: convincing in doing so, Spence. So I got Kansas State
Speaker 3: at number two and the team in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 3: I still think it. We're obviously here on this station
Speaker 3: ESPN seven hundred, your home of the Utes, but I'd
Speaker 3: still think that what we've seen so far, if healthy,
Speaker 3: the Big twelve runs through Salt Lake City, and the
Speaker 3: status of Cam rising, the availability of some of their
Speaker 3: other players has a lot to do with that. But uh,
Speaker 3: you taught number one in the power ranking so far,
Speaker 3: and I don't really see many arguments.
Speaker 1: To the contrary. So you're a homer. I didn't know that,
Speaker 1: all right. I mean, hey, if you raise you better
Speaker 1: than this, young man. If they're the best team, they're
Speaker 1: they're the best team. Are you really concerned about the
Speaker 1: three three five?
Speaker 3: Not really concerned, But I do think, and especially if
Speaker 3: Cam's not fully ready to go, it is a defense
Speaker 3: that could throw some looks at you, and hey, it's
Speaker 3: just different, that's the only thing. It's It's different from
Speaker 3: what you see a lot of the times. Just give
Speaker 3: me a skinny post.
Speaker 1: There you go up the middle, some checkdowns, swing passes,
Speaker 1: keep them on their heels. There you go. That's what
Speaker 1: you do. Against the three three five. You can do that.
Speaker 1: That's what you have to do against it. You can
Speaker 1: get you why banana up the middle hand it off
Speaker 1: a bunch too. You will also run it. Just run
Speaker 1: the rock. Yeah, and you know, you know that's what
Speaker 1: I'm about. I'm all about put a bunch of tight
Speaker 1: ends in the formation. Oh you know what. I want
Speaker 1: all tight ends on the field. We'll talked about no
Speaker 1: running backs. We got six of them up on the hill.
Speaker 1: I just want t both on both sides of the ball, though.
Speaker 1: I just want to see a game that's all tight ends.
Speaker 1: That's how much I love tight ends. Dynamic. Nobody in
Speaker 1: the market loves tight ends more than I love tight end.
Speaker 3: And you only you're only saying this because of a
Speaker 3: basketball player that's currently playing tight end.
Speaker 1: That's what we've got going on. I'm just saying, like
Speaker 1: your basketball, the world I want to live in is
Speaker 1: the world where I go to a ute game and baby,
Speaker 1: it's just tight ends on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see any d lineman. I don't
Speaker 1: need a running back. Give me eleven tight ends on
Speaker 1: both ends of the ball, football sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: That's what I am football guy. See, this is what
Speaker 1: you have to do to do radio. You have to
Speaker 1: there's a contest that goes on to prove who the
Speaker 1: horniest guy is about, and it gets really exhausting. And
Speaker 1: how many tight ends you can get on the field
Speaker 1: is a big measure. No one loves tight ends like
Speaker 1: the Drive with Spence check its loves time. We are
Speaker 1: your home of tight ends in Salt Lake. I will
Speaker 1: agree there.
Speaker 3: Hey, no one gets in more offensive line questions than
Speaker 3: I do during the course of a youth season.
Speaker 1: I will say that. Dude, Now you're talking O block
Speaker 1: on me. Oh stop it on a Monday, How dare you?
Speaker 1: Nobody clear? Just to get my credentials out there. What
Speaker 1: if somebody is listening that doesn't know anything about football,
Speaker 1: and they turn on the radio and I said, nobody
Speaker 1: loves tight ends more than I love tight ends. It's
Speaker 1: a weird thing to say. If you don't know about football,
Speaker 1: it could be a different show, could be all right,
Speaker 1: we see things pretty close to I now. I also
Speaker 1: have BYU at seven. Wanted to bump them up a
Speaker 1: little bit. But man, Jake's just got to be better
Speaker 1: with the ball. I mean, he throws the pick and
Speaker 1: there are a couple of other dice. He throws against
Speaker 1: a really bad Wyoming defense, but they've survived and there
Speaker 1: was no doubt and lared me, I mean, I thought
Speaker 1: that game. I thought the BYU game in a way
Speaker 1: was a little bit like the Utah Utah State game,
Speaker 1: where it just feels a little tricky, you know, heading
Speaker 1: up there in a place that can be tough to
Speaker 1: play Wyoming there, Monson on Friday said, why, I mean, sucks,
Speaker 1: b Y, you should roll. I wasn't ready to say that,
Speaker 1: but after watching that game, I'm ready to say that
Speaker 1: they're horrible. They didn't do anything well and Jake really
Speaker 1: spread the ball out, you know, found a bunch of
Speaker 1: different receivers. Good to see Conto Hill getting the end
Speaker 1: zone bit a minute, Darius Lassiter, Cody Epps, Chase Roberts.
Speaker 1: Jake has weapons, man like BYU does have playmakers on
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. The question is two
Speaker 1: running backs hurt, and I'm hearing that might be worse
Speaker 1: than we understand. With Hinkley, Rapotti and LJ. Martin, Jake
Speaker 1: Rehtz laugh led them in rushing. We only saw eight
Speaker 1: carriers from Miles Davis who never really got going. So
Speaker 1: we'll see how that plays out. But it just seems like,
Speaker 1: and this is not a hot take, it's for every
Speaker 1: team they're gonna go as Jake go's and if it's
Speaker 1: not Jake, do they tried the be handing kid who's
Speaker 1: won a Big twelve championship. Because there are plenty of
Speaker 1: weapons on the offensive side of the ball. They were
Speaker 1: on display against Wyoming. But defensively, you know Jay Hill,
Speaker 1: second year Kilane, you know, he is a defensive guy
Speaker 1: who's the coordinator up here forever. Really cut his teeth underwit.
Speaker 1: So you know, they have been winning games in a
Speaker 1: way that feels like a team that's coached by Kolonie Satake.
Speaker 1: So they've stayed clean. They go to Laramie no problem
Speaker 1: at all. So I have them at seven. I also
Speaker 1: have ASU at six. You know, ultimately, I think Kenny
Speaker 1: Dillingham is a really bright, young head coach. I've interviewed
Speaker 1: him a couple of different times. I always enjoy, you know, interactions,
Speaker 1: getting to know him a little bit port of reference.
Speaker 1: You know, we have seven clean teams so far that
Speaker 1: stayed unbeaten, most in the non con and Arizona State
Speaker 1: did struggle last Thursday with Texas State. Texas State is
Speaker 1: an underrated program.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: They were actually a favorite at one point, so it's
Speaker 1: a win you stay clean. I have them at six.
Speaker 1: At five, I have UCF and that might not be
Speaker 1: high enough. Okay, and I, by the way, I also
Speaker 1: think TCU is good. That was an awesome football game.
Speaker 1: UCF gets the win. Thirty five thirty four. I wanted
Speaker 1: to put TCU in the mix here because I do
Speaker 1: think that's a team I've heard Josh Payton others talk
Speaker 1: about this. They could win this conference that a lot
Speaker 1: of people aren't talking about. But UCF goes down there,
Speaker 1: they get the win, so they enter my top five
Speaker 1: for the first time. At four, I have Iowa State.
Speaker 1: A random early season by for Iowa State, but they
Speaker 1: have the best win in my opinion so far in
Speaker 1: conference play. That's a win over Iowa So I still
Speaker 1: have them at four. That's where I had them last week.
Speaker 1: The top three remain unchanged for me. At three is
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. Okay, the school that you guys are going
Speaker 1: to see Utah play coming up this week. Oklahoma State
Speaker 1: stayed clean against a bad Tolls To team, but they're
Speaker 1: three and zero. They're tough, they're physical, they want to
Speaker 1: run the football. Utah State was able to gain yards
Speaker 1: on the ground, and you know, a win against Arkansas,
Speaker 1: albeit a really dicey one. They were getting curbstoms by
Speaker 1: the Razorbacks and needed a late miracle to come back
Speaker 1: and win, but they did. That's a non con P
Speaker 1: four win over and s team. I have Oklahoma stated three,
Speaker 1: and last week I had Okay stated two and Case
Speaker 1: stated three. But this week I'll flip that script after
Speaker 1: really overwhelming an excellent Arizona team. So a very impressive
Speaker 1: win BYU hosting k State coming up this weekend, and
Speaker 1: then Utah hitting the road taking on Oklahoma State in Stillwater.
Speaker 1: So there you go. Big twelve power rankings. We do
Speaker 1: it every week every Monday. On the program. We're gonna
Speaker 1: bring in Tony Parks live in studio Porter. Before we
Speaker 1: catch a break, let me ask you the question I
Speaker 1: asked Sean during cross talk and I was catching up
Speaker 1: with Josh Furlong about the situation from KSL. Just from
Speaker 1: your dvantage point, what questions specifically do you think Isaac
Speaker 1: Wilson answered with his performance on Saturday against the Aggies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I will have to identify the questions I
Speaker 3: had personally for Isaac to go in there, and some
Speaker 3: of the things that I had seen him struggling with
Speaker 3: were pre snap. Right in Isaac, I could see that
Speaker 3: when he's sending a guy in motion, and in Andy
Speaker 3: Ludwigs's offense, and in many offenses, right you're you're trying
Speaker 3: to identify things with that motion. You're trying to identify
Speaker 3: which linebacker is in coverage, which linebacker might be stunting.
Speaker 3: Isaac was a little delayed in recognizing some of that,
Speaker 3: and then once the snap happened, that means you're a
Speaker 3: little bit delayed in your first progression, your first read.
Speaker 3: So Zach's entire chain, if you will, is his timing chain,
Speaker 3: was was out of whack from the from the very beginning,
Speaker 3: because that basically second and a half to two snekets
Speaker 3: two seconds before the snap spence where you're usually going
Speaker 3: through your motions, you're usually you know, checking the mic linebacker,
Speaker 3: You're you're going through your communications with your offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: That all happens within the course of literally two seconds
Speaker 3: or so. That was a struggle for Isaac for in game.
Speaker 3: Bright Lights are on and it took a minute for
Speaker 3: him to settle in. But there was a moment in Logan,
Speaker 3: I want to say midway through the second quarter where
Speaker 3: you start started to see the the game developing in
Speaker 3: front of Isaac at a speed where he wasn't behind,
Speaker 3: he wasn't forcing things just a second too slope. Now
Speaker 3: there are still moments when you're seeing that is an issue,
Speaker 3: and I still need to see some growth in that area,
Speaker 3: but you saw that he was not completely overwhelmed by it,
Speaker 3: which I think he was a little bit against Southern
Speaker 3: Utah even in Game one, and then definitely a little
Speaker 3: bit against Baylor. So I really did see him take
Speaker 3: steps in that. In that regard, I still think there
Speaker 3: is some pre snap stuff where he is He's not
Speaker 3: on the level that of course a Cam Rising or
Speaker 3: a several year Division I college quarterback would be, where
Speaker 3: he is actually not identifying correctly some of the coverages,
Speaker 3: and it's it's ending in you know some plays that
Speaker 3: you Todd just ends up basically throwing the ball away
Speaker 3: or handing off because they're not exactly sure what the
Speaker 3: defense is doing. And that comes with time, that comes
Speaker 3: with his reps, not only in this offense, but also
Speaker 3: against Division one college football teams that are are up
Speaker 3: to speed with what he'll see in the Big twelve,
Speaker 3: and that only comes with reps. But I did like
Speaker 3: what I saw from the second quarter on Saturday.
Speaker 1: I was really proud of him. Man. I thought he
Speaker 1: stepped up. I thought he met the moment. After that
Speaker 1: rough start. You could feel the anxiety around town. I'm
Speaker 1: getting taxed from buddies. We're watching the game. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, how's this going to play out? And he
Speaker 1: answered the bell man. So shout out to Isaac Wilson
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Speaker 1: But joining me now live in studio for an entire hour. Man,
Speaker 1: my guy, we've worked together in one way or another
Speaker 1: for like fifteen years. TP Tony Parks, the voice of
Speaker 1: the Bees. What's up, buddy, I'm sorry, I'm on the
Speaker 1: wrong bike. No, you're good. So you'll respect this as
Speaker 1: somebody who literally has done everything in radio. You can
Speaker 1: talk about the jazz or take the trash out. That's
Speaker 1: what's great about you. We've got a new board here
Speaker 1: and we've got a new setup in studio, so we're
Speaker 1: still trying to traverse that space. So Porter asked to
Speaker 1: actually turn your mic on this will terrify you. I
Speaker 1: cannot turn my mic on her off, and we don't
Speaker 1: have a dump button every day for four hours. I'm like,
Speaker 1: don't don't say that one. Hey, there pops in your
Speaker 1: head again. Don't know, can't say that one. So I
Speaker 1: take it. Britton Johnson will not be in studio for roofful.
Speaker 1: I love that, man. Do you need a dump button
Speaker 1: with Britton Johnson along for the ride? Longtime co host
Speaker 1: on Jasper aff and post how you been Manthe's good?
Speaker 1: I've been so good man, I love it.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Every day I get to wake up and I go
Speaker 1: to a baseball game.
Speaker 12: And today we don't have a game, but we traveled
Speaker 12: in last night, so my wife and our newborn daughter
Speaker 12: were there at home here in Salt Lake, at our
Speaker 12: place here, and got up today and had a great
Speaker 12: morning with her.
Speaker 1: And you know, there is nothing like it.
Speaker 12: I wake up and I have an infant who makes
Speaker 12: fun little noises and squeals, and she just loves her
Speaker 12: puppy and she loves her life and she can't wait
Speaker 12: to see what's coming up every day. And then after that,
Speaker 12: I go to a baseball game and I get to
Speaker 12: be around great people and I love the team that
Speaker 12: I work with. I love the team that is on
Speaker 12: the field as well, Manager Keith Johnson. Just like when
Speaker 12: you have that every single day, man, you are really alive.
Speaker 12: And it's the final year of the ballpark, a place
Speaker 12: that's very near and dear to my heart for so
Speaker 12: many reasons. And so this last week I'm just gonna
Speaker 12: soak it up. Man, six days. If you're the fan,
Speaker 12: you know, make sure to join us. You know, I'm
Speaker 12: gonna pump for tickets, just because it's it's an iconic place.
Speaker 12: The weather's going to be great, but we have all
Speaker 12: these great tributes coming up, and I am just over
Speaker 12: the moon excited for what should be, you know, a
Speaker 12: great week of being around great people.
Speaker 1: This is the last week of the ballpark. Oh we
Speaker 1: talked about it last week. I just forgot. I played
Speaker 1: way too much mediocre golf over the weekend. It's taking
Speaker 1: the bandwidth. How you dealing with that? What's it like
Speaker 1: over there? Last week of that ballpark? Man? I can remember,
Speaker 1: we all can remember going there forever ago and Thursday
Speaker 1: Thursdays college and throughout the course, you know, like so
Speaker 1: many great memories. Obviously, you're the guy for this. You
Speaker 1: have more memories than anyone outside of the late great
Speaker 1: Steve Cloukey. So what's it like. What's it feel like
Speaker 1: knowing that this thing is coming to an end in
Speaker 1: the Capital City.
Speaker 12: I think it's it's very emotional for me because there's
Speaker 12: so many different chapters to a childhood. Baseball It's where
Speaker 12: we felt most safe when we made the move, my
Speaker 12: mom and I to Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1: That was kind of our thing.
Speaker 12: It's how I grew a big Cubs fan because we
Speaker 12: watched WGN.
Speaker 1: No matter where we were. Greg maddox I was on
Speaker 1: Dan Giel.
Speaker 12: Steve Stone was the star of our home mark race. Yeah,
Speaker 12: I mean I had Steve Stone and my mom teaching
Speaker 12: me the game. Anybody who knows my mom knows like
Speaker 12: that was the ultimate cheat code to have him and
Speaker 12: her together, Like teaching me the game was amazing anyway,
Speaker 12: So baseball is a big part to us. And then
Speaker 12: you know, when I got the job as the play
Speaker 12: by play announcer, I'll never forget it. I mean, I
Speaker 12: come back into the state of Utah really for the
Speaker 12: first time since Sophie was born, and I go up
Speaker 12: to the press box. I had a Weaver State football
Speaker 12: game and Steve Clokey's calling it for radio and I
Speaker 12: got it on TV and it's the first time we'd
Speaker 12: seen each other since he retired, Like there's some there's
Speaker 12: some stuff here, and the way he grabbed my arm
Speaker 12: and the way he shook.
Speaker 1: It around, and the way he pulled me in and
Speaker 1: gave me a hug.
Speaker 12: And then the one thing he told me was, you know,
Speaker 12: I called the first game ever at that ballpark, and
Speaker 12: I think it's so beautiful that you get to call
Speaker 12: the last game ever at that ballpark.
Speaker 1: So here's one thing people didn't know all year.
Speaker 12: I had remembered him saying that, and I put something
Speaker 12: together towards the last homestand to where I was going
Speaker 12: to bring different people in to call a few innings
Speaker 12: with me, just as a color commentary conversational on the TV.
Speaker 12: Brook loved, Yeah one, I'm Frank Laden. Yeah, it's an
Speaker 12: obvious one. There's just just all these different people I
Speaker 12: was going to bring in. But the last one I
Speaker 12: was going to have was Steve Klokey, And I know
Speaker 12: exactly the way that he would set up his book.
Speaker 12: I studied it all the way down because he has
Speaker 12: all of his books in there, and I was going
Speaker 12: to set up the game book exactly like that, and
Speaker 12: when it got to the final three OUTSAR six, depending
Speaker 12: on how the game was going, I was going to
Speaker 12: have him call the final outs at the ballpark because
Speaker 12: I truly felt that's the way it should have ended up.
Speaker 12: And so as I think about that, that's another thing
Speaker 12: that gets me emotional about this week, because I had
Speaker 12: those plans put into place.
Speaker 1: Tell her that's a mean Tell our listeners, do you
Speaker 1: ever listen to the podcast smartlest the Bateman Will It's
Speaker 1: a funny like celebrity podcast. It's like a guilty pleasure listen,
Speaker 1: and they talk often about their industry as actors. But
Speaker 1: when they use terms they tell, they follow up to
Speaker 1: tell the guests to talk to one of the co
Speaker 1: hosts sisters who has no clue about acting. Does that
Speaker 1: make sense? So for our listeners that don't know what
Speaker 1: a game book is, oh, explain what that is.
Speaker 12: Yeah, It's just like it's the way you have your
Speaker 12: score sheet and you have you know the visitor and
Speaker 12: the home team, and the way you list out the
Speaker 12: starting lineups and all those different things. He and I
Speaker 12: have a very similar one see, yeah, very very similar.
Speaker 12: We have very different ways which way we format it.
Speaker 12: I put numbers in unique spots and I don't label it.
Speaker 12: I just know what that number means, and so when
Speaker 12: I need it, my eyes go right to it. I
Speaker 12: got it, and I move, gotcha, And it's the way.
Speaker 12: And he was very much the same. Now we're different
Speaker 12: in exactly what we put where, but there's a style
Speaker 12: in which we had, so I mean down to the
Speaker 12: tiniest details.
Speaker 1: He had a unique style. I had a un ink style.
Speaker 12: So one thing that I would do is like, if
Speaker 12: somebody pops up the first base and it's caught, it's three.
Speaker 12: But if it's a pop up high in the air,
Speaker 12: it's a big fat three.
Speaker 1: That's the way.
Speaker 12: If it's a line drive, it's like the straight lines,
Speaker 12: gotcha three. If it's a pop up and foul ground,
Speaker 12: it's a backwards fat three, like I do.
Speaker 1: Like just my mind.
Speaker 12: Automatically knows popped up in the foul ground. So there's
Speaker 12: a coding system that you have that's your own style.
Speaker 12: And I knew his style inside out, so I was
Speaker 12: gonna set it up that way throughout the game, and
Speaker 12: that's how it was gonna end.
Speaker 1: I was going to surprise him with it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make sure his family knew about it.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and let it be, because that's the way I
Speaker 12: believe that.
Speaker 1: The final three outs and the broadcast and all that shit.
Speaker 1: I still you know, I had a pin tweet of
Speaker 1: my Steve Clocky bobblehead until like a week ago, and
Speaker 1: every time I think it, I still go, wait, ones,
Speaker 1: what how did that happen? So over there? So Oklahoma
Speaker 1: City is in town. We've got Smith's family and I
Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow, Thirsty Thursday. On Thursday, we've got to
Speaker 1: go Golden Night on Friday, fan Appreciation Night Saturday. Then
Speaker 1: the finale is on Sunday. The final game for the
Speaker 1: Bees of the ballpark here in the Capital City is Sunday. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously you and I are of the same mind about
Speaker 1: the Miller family and the goals they have. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the Stewards they were over a team that you and
Speaker 1: I both worked for and still to this day I
Speaker 1: cheer for in the Utah Jazz. So Steve Stark's friend
Speaker 1: of the show, friend off air as well. You know
Speaker 1: what they're doing to build a new ballpark. You know,
Speaker 1: property deserve a bottom line for me is I live
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake and it's a bummer that it's leaving, right,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate this endeavor that the Millers have taken
Speaker 1: on and hope that at some point it does lead
Speaker 1: to a major League baseball team here in our capital
Speaker 1: city personally, which would be awesome. So as you look ahead,
Speaker 1: Tony two, what's next for this little ow ball club?
Speaker 1: What are some of your thoughts and what's kind of
Speaker 1: the redeeming feel of the organization.
Speaker 12: I love the big steps that were taking this year,
Speaker 12: and some of them were not witnessed. Some of them
Speaker 12: you couldn't see with your eyes, but great work from
Speaker 12: so many people who stepped into the ballpark ready to
Speaker 12: go with great baseball mindset and great business of baseball mindset. Right,
Speaker 12: you can be a baseball person, you could be a
Speaker 12: business person, but these are people who understand the business
Speaker 12: of baseball and it's going a long way. Derek Amacon
Speaker 12: a huge part of that. Cam Coglan a huge part
Speaker 12: of that. Ty Wardle. I know I'm leaving some people out,
Speaker 12: but I don't have all day. But the point is
Speaker 12: a lot of people who are stepping in there with
Speaker 12: new roles new responsibilities. They're doing a masterful job at
Speaker 12: putting together great concepts that are helping build and go
Speaker 12: bigger because a lot of what's happening is is we're
Speaker 12: moving to major league mindset, and there were major strides
Speaker 12: that took place there. First of all, they got a
Speaker 12: TV deal done in record time. That was amazing. I mean,
Speaker 12: the great work by from Cam coglan to you know,
Speaker 12: obviously Ty Wordle and everybody in between to make sure
Speaker 12: that that came together. We have all these games on
Speaker 12: KMYU and we have more games than I think any
Speaker 12: minor league team out there on linear or TV. I
Speaker 12: want to say, I have to double check that to
Speaker 12: be sure, but we have almost forty games right. Then
Speaker 12: the quality of our broadcast. Then we go into the
Speaker 12: features of our broadcast, and they just kind of said, dude,
Speaker 12: you run with this.
Speaker 1: You make it the best it could be.
Speaker 12: Go and everybody's one hundred miles an hour to be
Speaker 12: the very best that we can be. Now, a lot
Speaker 12: of these things that were put into place behind the
Speaker 12: scenes you can't see. Next year, you're going to see
Speaker 12: things in a new ballpark that are going to be
Speaker 12: elevated to levels no other.
Speaker 1: Minor league baseball team has.
Speaker 12: They are very serious about not just being good, not
Speaker 12: just being the best, but they want to run up
Speaker 12: the score. It's not about everybody else, it's truly about us,
Speaker 12: and it's about creating a major league level experience in
Speaker 12: a minor league ballpark. And that's the standard that Steve
Speaker 12: Clouke had for the broadcast. That was my number one
Speaker 12: goal coming into it, as well as humanizing the broadcast
Speaker 12: and making sure that the listener felt connected to what's happening.
Speaker 12: They're also doing that in their game presentation. They're going
Speaker 12: all the way when it comes to premium seating, everything involved.
Speaker 12: So that is I think a great runway into a
Speaker 12: wonderful campaign into giving this market the absolute best chance
Speaker 12: possible to have a major league team someday. So when
Speaker 12: you talk the stuff that you'll see, that's what you're
Speaker 12: gonna see next year. And a lot of the things
Speaker 12: that have been under the surface this year also great
Speaker 12: job by I mean, from Amy Jackson to Dustin dell In.
Speaker 12: I mean, there's just a lot of people that have
Speaker 12: exhausted efforts, Brian Dever, everybody who's just gone all in
Speaker 12: on making this the best year it can be to
Speaker 12: give next year.
Speaker 1: A big punch. Did you say, Derek Amercon Yeah, Mark
Speaker 1: amccray porter, will you hop on the micro quick and
Speaker 1: remind Tony what our official stances on our radio show
Speaker 1: about nepotism? Please not big on nepotism. You can't wait
Speaker 1: with them. I can't wait with them. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just now, that's just this radio show. That's just our opinion.
Speaker 1: I can't I kid marks the never met Derek. But
Speaker 1: Mark's a great guy. Derek's a star, that's awesome to hear,
Speaker 1: huge star. He's been as close to MVP as anybody
Speaker 1: could be this year. So before we move off the be,
Speaker 1: give me the pitch man, let's get people out this week.
Speaker 1: I completely I'm getting to a game this week, so
Speaker 1: let's let's hear it.
Speaker 12: Five dollar tickets on Sunday, We're going back to nineteen
Speaker 12: ninety four. Five dollars tickets. Unbelievable like concession items that
Speaker 12: will be at great value pricing team store items throughout
Speaker 12: the week that you're going to want to take advantage
Speaker 12: of with that, wonderful tributes all week, iconic members that'll
Speaker 12: be there, former big name people who've played there, won't
Speaker 12: give out the names yet, but you're gonna want to
Speaker 12: join us and be a part of that Friday Night's
Speaker 12: gold Golden night. And I know that this is one
Speaker 12: that's going to hit to you personally. I mean, I
Speaker 12: know you know cancer has affected you personally. You and
Speaker 12: I have talked about this on the air. Off the air.
Speaker 12: That's a big one in the fight against childhood cancer.
Speaker 12: We're really really big on that, and my family is
Speaker 12: all in on doing what we can to support families.
Speaker 12: And so that night, you get fireworks after the game,
Speaker 12: kids get to run the bases after the game. On Friday,
Speaker 12: Saturday and Sunday, you know, fireworks on Friday and Saturday.
Speaker 12: You know everything that you're going to want to have,
Speaker 12: all the fields that made this place so special.
Speaker 1: You're gonna feel it over and over and over again.
Speaker 12: I was putting together some different videos and just wonderful tributes,
Speaker 12: so you know, at your last chance to get there
Speaker 12: to catch a B's game, whether you started there with
Speaker 12: the Buzz or the Stingers, or whether you were even
Speaker 12: you know, the Trappers, or let's they go back to
Speaker 12: the goals. My favorite part is talking to every person
Speaker 12: giving me It's always a family story, my grandpa, my dad,
Speaker 12: my mom my, this.
Speaker 1: That, and there was this game. They don't remember the score,
Speaker 1: they don't remember this, they don't know.
Speaker 12: Maybe they remember one player in one moment, but they
Speaker 12: never forgot the foam finger or the foul ball. There's
Speaker 12: always something there. And I just I think that's what
Speaker 12: makes this place so beautiful. Yeah, that's what it's about.
Speaker 12: I mean I was and you referenced, you referenced, go
Speaker 12: Golden Night. So the fight against childhood cancer.
Speaker 1: And I just said my twenty one years man, twenty
Speaker 1: one years free. But I remember, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I just remember I was twenty five. When a doctor
Speaker 1: looked at me, it was like, you're gonna die. You
Speaker 1: have a brain tumor or you're dying, right. And so
Speaker 1: I can remember during my recovery walking up and down
Speaker 1: the hallways and it's the kids where you go, dude,
Speaker 1: what this five year old? Yeah is in here with
Speaker 1: no hair. And I can remember in the room next
Speaker 1: to me when I was in physical therapy, literally relearning
Speaker 1: how to walk. A mom. It's hard to talk about him.
Speaker 1: Mom would come in the room every night and pray
Speaker 1: with her son, and he was twelve years old and
Speaker 1: his name was Nate, And I remember listening to her
Speaker 1: say a prayer with her son, Nate, and then I
Speaker 1: woke up one morning and he was gone from the
Speaker 1: room and he died. He passed, you know, three weeks
Speaker 1: of listening to his mother pray with him every night.
Speaker 1: At the age of twelve. He died of a brain
Speaker 1: tumor that they could not operate on. It's just whatever
Speaker 1: we can do societally to fight our generations that thing,
Speaker 1: and that's what cancer is. I definitely applaud that. So
Speaker 1: where's the best place tell him for people to get tickets? Yeah,
Speaker 1: SLBs dot com. That's where you're want to go. SLBs
Speaker 1: dot com.
Speaker 12: Amazing discounts, very valued pricing, take advantage of all of that.
Speaker 12: And I've been telling people, don't just catch one last game,
Speaker 12: catch multiple be there multiple times. Every Night's going to
Speaker 12: look and sound and feel a little bit different. You're
Speaker 12: gonna want to take a piece of that.
Speaker 1: So all right, good stuff. So head over to the
Speaker 1: b's game this week. It's the final week of the
Speaker 1: best playing baseball in Salt Lake. Let's move over to
Speaker 1: the utes. But before we get there, because you just
Speaker 1: jarred something in my mind, it really is. It's one
Speaker 1: of the things that as I age and as I
Speaker 1: continue to be involved in the world of sports, I
Speaker 1: try to have perspective on it. It's very much zero
Speaker 1: some game. We're not changing the world, but the generational connections.
Speaker 1: I lost my grandfather about a year and a half ago,
Speaker 1: and you know, Big d Big Dave, he's getting a
Speaker 1: little older, right, So I'm watching my dad age. I
Speaker 1: said goodbye to my grandpa, and we have this book
Speaker 1: that was put together for all the grandkids and all
Speaker 1: the pictures. It's me and my grandpa golfing. It's me
Speaker 1: and my grandpa to jazz game. It's me and my
Speaker 1: grandpa to BYU game. He was a Cougar club guy.
Speaker 1: And then the generational connection between my grandpa and my
Speaker 1: father and now my son who's twenty three. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a fourth generation big sports fan. He's back East,
Speaker 1: living in New York, going a Jets games, Yankee game,
Speaker 1: nixth game, loving it. I walked through the tailgate the
Speaker 1: other day for it was prior to the Utah SUU game,
Speaker 1: and a gentleman called out my name. He listens to
Speaker 1: the station and they had a tailgate setup. It was
Speaker 1: very extensive. They did the prep, they're barbecuing that drinks
Speaker 1: and it was packed. And he said, I want to
Speaker 1: want you to I want to introduce you to my grandfather.
Speaker 1: He's the one that started all this. And I sat down,
Speaker 1: I talk with him, and he talked about buying a
Speaker 1: ticket to the old stadium for a nickel back in
Speaker 1: nineteen forty seven. And then I'm seeing I met his son,
Speaker 1: and then I met his grandsons and they're all there
Speaker 1: at the Utah football game, tailgating prior to the kick.
Speaker 1: And you know the deal, when you get into the job,
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of have to become agnostic. You
Speaker 1: kind of have to become immune or numb to fandom
Speaker 1: or else. It compromises the craft of what you're trying
Speaker 1: to do. And sometimes it does feel too much like
Speaker 1: a job to me. And so to be reminded of
Speaker 1: really what it's all about. You know, the stories that
Speaker 1: you get at the ballpark of people talking about generations
Speaker 1: of baseball fans going over the years, walking through a
Speaker 1: tail gate to Utah football, where you meet the patriarch
Speaker 1: of the whole situation who's been going a Utah football
Speaker 1: game since nineteen forty seven, passed it on to his kid,
Speaker 1: who's now pasted it on to his sons. Oh man,
Speaker 1: that it reminds you, like we catch a lot of
Speaker 1: crap in the world of sports, like you don't matter,
Speaker 1: like there's too many other things going on in the world.
Speaker 1: It reminds you why it's fun to exist in the
Speaker 1: toy aisle that we do covering sports.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, because what you really are in love with
Speaker 12: is the emotions you feel in the connection you have
Speaker 12: with Michigan win in the national title last year, the
Speaker 12: connection I have with that with my mom because we'd
Speaker 12: watch clubs games in the afternoon summertime during the day,
Speaker 12: well in the fall, Saturday and Sunday mornings. I would
Speaker 12: kind of take care of myself early so she could
Speaker 12: sleep in because she was waitressing, bartending, she was up late,
Speaker 12: stuff like that, and I would kind of have to
Speaker 12: take care of myself, take care of the house. So
Speaker 12: she would get up and we'd watch football together. And
Speaker 12: I learned the game initially through Michigan football and her
Speaker 12: the cool song, cool helmet, cool everything. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 12: that was our team. They were the first team on
Speaker 12: a lot of times. So there's so much wrapped into that,
Speaker 12: and then it comes into my brother and it just
Speaker 12: expands out.
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with you know, Elvis Gerbach
Speaker 1: or Desmond Howard.
Speaker 12: I mean, but it was the memory and the excitement
Speaker 12: and all of those moments that we lived through Charles
Speaker 12: Woods and soaring through the air, picking off pass in
Speaker 12: the end zone and the Rose Bowls. It's the way
Speaker 12: my mom screamed when Tommy Hendrix picked it off in
Speaker 12: the end zone against Notre Dame in nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 12: and the celebration in our living room. It's that stuff
Speaker 12: right there. It's that it's watching her joy and excitement.
Speaker 12: So you as a fan, whether it's going to the ballpark,
Speaker 12: whether it's the fan of the utes and all that,
Speaker 12: what it really is about is your experience in your
Speaker 12: life and that is a fabric of what makes this
Speaker 12: so beautiful. And I wish we could get back to
Speaker 12: more of that instead of some of the toxicity that
Speaker 12: comes with sports. Especially now you know where I fill
Speaker 12: in on radio and do that and do more play
Speaker 12: by play.
Speaker 1: I've been able to really.
Speaker 12: Absorb more into the beauty of what makes sports sports
Speaker 12: and why we love our team.
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why something like a stadium
Speaker 1: movie is a big deal to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: It hits you in the heart, you know, to gets
Speaker 1: you when you've grown up during these games, because that's
Speaker 1: where your memories exist. And I remember going to Be's
Speaker 1: games with my with my grandfather and all these all
Speaker 1: these games, and it's ultimately, you know, it is the
Speaker 1: toy Isle, but it's a it's a it's a great
Speaker 1: way to connect generation after generation. We'll do a let's
Speaker 1: do a big college football segment coming up next. I
Speaker 1: want to do some Utah football. I want to do
Speaker 1: some BYU football, some Big twelve stuff. But we got
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes here, so let's do a scoch
Speaker 1: of jazz basketball. A scosh Tony, just a scosh Okay.
Speaker 1: So Bowler rolled in the studio last week. Craig and
Speaker 1: Gordon come on the show once a week for an hour,
Speaker 1: call it the Big Show, Big Hour. It's fun to
Speaker 1: be reunited with those guys. And bless his heart. We
Speaker 1: were going over the depth chart and I was asking
Speaker 1: him what he's watching out for, and as he was
Speaker 1: naming the names of the players most likely in the rotation,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, good luck calling those games foul.
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, ultimately, we all know the deal. Okay.
Speaker 1: And as I saying you off air, Danny Ainge has
Speaker 1: a track record. Danny does not need me to stand
Speaker 1: up for him. Okay. His resume is out there, you
Speaker 1: can go look at it. And the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is things like this take time. Here's the issue, Tony,
Speaker 1: as I see it, Vegas over underwins right now in
Speaker 1: the NBA in the Western Conference, because you remember we
Speaker 1: were both working over there during the Mitchell Gobert, Quinn
Speaker 1: Dennis Lindsay ingles like that whole thing. And so the
Speaker 1: walking line at the time was we hope we're in
Speaker 1: a spot to capitalize on a window that opens when
Speaker 1: Golden State is kind of done and Lebron is a
Speaker 1: little bit older and maybe Kawhi has aged out. Like
Speaker 1: when that happens, we hope to be in the spot
Speaker 1: to be the team with the players in their prime
Speaker 1: to maybe win something special. Now here's the issue. Vegas
Speaker 1: over underwins OKC one, Minnesota two. You're looking at this point,
Speaker 1: Dallas three. Let's see here, Pelicans, Kings, Grizzlies with jaw back,
Speaker 1: and then you get into there's the Kings, then it's
Speaker 1: the Lakers, then it's the excuse me, the Suns. Then
Speaker 1: it's the Lakers, and it's the Warriors, and then it's
Speaker 1: the Spurs. Then it's the Rockets and the final two.
Speaker 1: The only two teams that are not thought to be
Speaker 1: close to competing for a playoff spot in the West
Speaker 1: are the Jazz and the Trailblazers. Those are the only
Speaker 1: two bad quote unquote bad teams according to what the
Speaker 1: odds tell us in the Western Conference. Here's where the
Speaker 1: issue comes in. Okac is not going anywhere forever. They're awesome,
Speaker 1: and they're young. Jokic still in his twenties. Michael Porter
Speaker 1: Junior is still young. Jamal Murray. If you can get
Speaker 1: back like Denver still has a runway of four or
Speaker 1: five years, SODA's Minnesota. You can make an argument that
Speaker 1: the Pelicans do that, the Kings do so. Now then
Speaker 1: seven of the eight top teams in the West are
Speaker 1: better than the Jazz, and they're also young. So the
Speaker 1: window and this is kind of how you have to
Speaker 1: view the whole thing in pro basketball. When will a
Speaker 1: window open? And can we formulate our roster construction to
Speaker 1: be there when that window opens. Now the window is
Speaker 1: like seven or eight years away, barring something completely unforeseen.
Speaker 1: I just don't see the direction forward to serious competition
Speaker 1: Tony anytime soon. If it is so, First of.
Speaker 12: All, you're right, there is a Danny Ainge is playing
Speaker 12: the long game. You don't have to be okay with it.
Speaker 12: I've also said you don't have to pour money into
Speaker 12: it as a fan. If you don't want to, that
Speaker 12: is your chance. That is your choice. You are not
Speaker 12: any less of a fan if you don't. By the way,
Speaker 12: if you say cool, I'll wait for the long game
Speaker 12: and I'll put my money into it. When things seem
Speaker 12: to be more of the approach that this team is
Speaker 12: a threat, there's nothing wrong with that as a fan, nothing.
Speaker 1: Wrong with that.
Speaker 12: This can't be a process though, where you just simply
Speaker 12: wait for everyone else to get worse. So is that
Speaker 12: kind of is the described way that you're talking about
Speaker 12: that can't be it? Well, you have to believe in
Speaker 12: is your ability to identify the best players that make
Speaker 12: the difference between being respectable threatening an elite eventually. Now
Speaker 12: they believed in that process before Danny Age did it,
Speaker 12: and he was right, Tatum Brown, we can go on
Speaker 12: and on and on with the other names. And they
Speaker 12: threatened for a good number of years. Now, that was
Speaker 12: a twelve year process, and for the first four years,
Speaker 12: I want to say, not a whole heck of a
Speaker 12: lot happening. Remember, they flushed out, they got a bunch
Speaker 12: of picks, they started over. Okay, the payoff is a
Speaker 12: ring and maybe more. I don't know if it's gonna
Speaker 12: take twelve. I don't know if it's gonna take eight.
Speaker 12: I don't know if it's gonna take I don't know.
Speaker 12: But what I do know is they have a belief
Speaker 12: in their ability with the process to identify those players,
Speaker 12: get them in and create the situation and the circumstance
Speaker 12: that gives them that championship level success. He has the
Speaker 12: track record to prove it, but what it takes is time.
Speaker 12: Because what he did in Boston by quickly making trades
Speaker 12: and then winning the title in eight, he did it
Speaker 12: that way. I think it's gonna be tougher to do
Speaker 12: something like that in Salt Lake City. With this, with
Speaker 12: free agency and all that, I think you're gonna have
Speaker 12: to go with your draft. You're gonna have to go
Speaker 12: with your guys, you're gonna have to be very selective
Speaker 12: and you have got to hit more than you miss,
Speaker 12: because you're not gonna be bat a thousand, But you
Speaker 12: gotta kind of be Reggie Jackson.
Speaker 1: When you barrel one up, you really barrel one up.
Speaker 12: And Danny Ain't just proven that while he does not
Speaker 12: bat a thousand, he can have more strikes than he
Speaker 12: does gutters. And so that's what this is that we
Speaker 12: and I love that you've just been very honest about
Speaker 12: what this is. So you, as a fan, you don't
Speaker 12: have to be okay with it now, but at least
Speaker 12: be honest with what it could.
Speaker 1: Pay off to be later. Yeah. So in the immediate now,
Speaker 1: no no, yeah, no, well, well well said, so the hope,
Speaker 1: the sincere hope, truly, And I don't really know that
Speaker 1: I'm ready to emphatically anoint or dismiss in any of
Speaker 1: these young players. Does Cody get stronger, quicker? Is he
Speaker 1: able to take contact? Can he score on all three levels?
Speaker 1: Does he look like a promising young player? Does Kyante
Speaker 1: he had the countess stuff? We won't do a lot
Speaker 1: of time on this County stuff is really interesting to
Speaker 1: me because there are moments where I'm like, yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: that's real, right, And then there are a lot of
Speaker 1: moments where I'm just like, I don't know that he
Speaker 1: can run a team. At least at this age, he
Speaker 1: has not shown his ability to be a lead guard.
Speaker 1: Does he show that ability this year? Here's what you got?
Speaker 1: You got marketing and he's awesome. Okay, Yeah, so he's
Speaker 1: the one you found throughout the course of everything you
Speaker 1: gave up. And I've always been the one guy yelling
Speaker 1: into the void about the go bear deal. Okay, because
Speaker 1: I saw Rudy impact winning here in a way that
Speaker 1: he's impacted in Minnesota. And yes, they got a haul,
Speaker 1: but what does that turn into? And we still don't know.
Speaker 1: So do we see something excuse me, that we're not
Speaker 1: expecting from an Isaiah Collier? You get my point? Like,
Speaker 1: does one of the young players popping away we're not expecting.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think that's something that can happen, will eventually happen.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have progress.
Speaker 12: The key point is how much progress do you have
Speaker 12: with some of those guys and what will happen with
Speaker 12: Danny Ainge is I do believe there's a shorter release
Speaker 12: than people would think with him, it's a hell yes,
Speaker 12: or it's to know. And I do think fans should
Speaker 12: like that because he is quick to make those moves.
Speaker 12: You were the first point that out when he first arrived.
Speaker 12: You were like, this is what's great about this. If
Speaker 12: he sees it's not gonna work. He's moving right away.
Speaker 12: He's moving, he's not playing the Dante x him. Hey,
Speaker 12: let's you know see how this and you know he's
Speaker 12: so young and he's so and it just it's the
Speaker 12: same story.
Speaker 1: It's the same crap. It's a different diaper, and it's
Speaker 1: over and over.
Speaker 12: No, no, no, no, no, it is Is this getting us
Speaker 12: where we want to go?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 12: Out, can this get us where we want to go? Yes,
Speaker 12: Let's continue to process and develop. We're not gonna hang
Speaker 12: on to Alec Burk's longer.
Speaker 1: We should.
Speaker 12: We're not gonna hang on to Dante ex longer we should.
Speaker 12: And so that it sounds ruthless, it sounds like incredibly
Speaker 12: I don't want to say small money like somebody would think, Man,
Speaker 12: that's so impatient.
Speaker 1: You're in a league where you can't wait.
Speaker 12: You can wait and play the long game with the
Speaker 12: big picture to win the title. But you can't play
Speaker 12: the long game with something that you don't see getting
Speaker 12: good enough fast enough. And he has to be able
Speaker 12: to believe that he can identify what that is. No
Speaker 12: one he's wrong when he's wrong, and move Danny Ainge.
Speaker 12: I give him a lot of credit. He's been that
Speaker 12: way his whole career, and he's going to be that
Speaker 12: way with this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Danny understands sun cost fallacy unlike all to any
Speaker 1: other NBAHGM like when it's time to move on, it's
Speaker 1: time to move on. I do wonder what this means
Speaker 1: for Will Hardy, who's in year three, who is a
Speaker 1: very proud guy who wants to win basketball games. But
Speaker 1: he's being paid handsomely. He's obviously part of the plan.
Speaker 1: I just have a hard time seeing this turn into
Speaker 1: anything really exciting anytime soon.
Speaker 12: I hope that they can give him what he needs
Speaker 12: going for because I do believe culturally he's doing a
Speaker 12: lot of great things. I do believe systematically, I think
Speaker 12: he's a great basketball mind. I'm not just saying this
Speaker 12: because I've had a chance to watch it up close
Speaker 12: and see what's developing. I hope that they can say, hey,
Speaker 12: you've been a part of this process as we were
Speaker 12: going through the pain tolerance. He deserves to be a
Speaker 12: part of the process to give it a chance to
Speaker 12: see them thrive.
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Speaker 1: what's your opinion on I caught some strays today because
Speaker 1: during cross talk with Sean, Sean O'Connell's hosting our midday
Speaker 1: show now, he was giving away Disney on Ice tickets
Speaker 1: and he said something along the lines of, well, if
Speaker 1: you have kids, this will be great. Then he said, well,
Speaker 1: even if you don't have kids, you should go. That's
Speaker 1: a whole lot of second and I was too aggressive
Speaker 1: with my opinion, as you know me, as I want
Speaker 1: to do from time to time. I guess this is
Speaker 1: where I'll settle on it because I was a little
Speaker 1: aggressive earlier. I don't fully understand Disney adults like you
Speaker 1: don't have kids in your calling up your group of
Speaker 1: friends and you're like, dude, what are you doing the
Speaker 1: third week of October, Let's roll to Disney for like
Speaker 1: a week. Bro, Let's crush a little small world. It's
Speaker 1: hop on space, like you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: hear you say it loud. I'm not judging, but it's
Speaker 1: just not my thing. And I am a father, as
Speaker 1: you know, and I've had wonderful times with my son,
Speaker 1: my young son at Disney World and on Disney cruises.
Speaker 1: But the way I phrased it earlier, I caught some pushback.
Speaker 1: People were saying I was being too harsh. What's your
Speaker 1: not not on adult that likes Disney movies? What's your
Speaker 1: opinion on adult who multiple times a year spends thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars with his or her friends to take week
Speaker 1: long vacations at Disney resorts without children? Okay, I am
Speaker 1: not a hater on Disney adult fan. I'm not.
Speaker 12: I'm not no hate, I'm not okay, but you better
Speaker 12: get out of the way when something for the kids
Speaker 12: ever comes up, and you better let them have the
Speaker 12: front row seat, and you better let them go first, and.
Speaker 1: You better make it about them.
Speaker 12: But you ever take too long with I don't care
Speaker 12: if it's a store her worst character or or if
Speaker 12: it's Rapunzel or whatever. You better make sure that it
Speaker 12: is first and foremost for them, because that's who this
Speaker 12: is for. So Nat and I did Disney on Nice once.
Speaker 12: We ended up getting tickets and it was just her
Speaker 12: and I.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 12: And it also was shortly used, probably three months after
Speaker 12: our oldest daughter was born, and so there was there
Speaker 12: was a little more to it, you know, And so
Speaker 12: we went there and I remember being there with my
Speaker 12: wife and the first thing we did. I mean, all
Speaker 12: these families have all these little kids, and our seats
Speaker 12: were supposed to be at the front row of this suite,
Speaker 12: and we were like, uh huh, all the kids go
Speaker 12: up there. And we sat back on the barstools and
Speaker 12: you know, sat up at the table and had a
Speaker 12: good time. But we made sure every prize that was
Speaker 12: given out, we gave it to one of them. Like
Speaker 12: anything that was given Ah, it is for them. So
Speaker 12: as long as you keep that part in mind. I'm
Speaker 12: all about I. I I not for me, Like I'm
Speaker 12: not dropping a bunch of money on Disney. My sister's
Speaker 12: big Disney adult fan, and now she you know, she
Speaker 12: has a daughter and stuff, and so it's great. But
Speaker 12: I'm not a hater on them. But just make sure
Speaker 12: you don't impede on any child's experience.
Speaker 1: If there's limited tickets, they get the ticket. Okay. It's
Speaker 1: good life advice in a much more serious tone than
Speaker 1: I was expecting. Bro. I'll meet you at Dumbo the
Speaker 1: Dumbo ride, and then let's hit up pirates and go
Speaker 1: to the Jungle Crew like you know what I mean. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's so expensive. You could do others anyway. Off my
Speaker 1: soapb not for me. Not for me either, Tony Parks
Speaker 1: live in studio. All right, we got we had some
Speaker 1: time here, so let's see you into some college football storylines.
Speaker 1: And I gotta say, man, I think Isaac Wilson answered
Speaker 1: a lot of questions on Saturday. We learned the lesson
Speaker 1: around here last year of what it can look like,
Speaker 1: not just without your starter, but without your backup. Cam
Speaker 1: was hurt last year, so was Brandon Rose. And I
Speaker 1: said after the Baylor game, I said, okay, Isaac's the two.
Speaker 1: You know, you guys know your team way better than
Speaker 1: any of us do. So Isaac's the two. If he's
Speaker 1: the two, it had to look better than it did
Speaker 1: against Baylor. Now, Dave Randa, as we all know around here,
Speaker 1: is a defensive savants. I mean, that's how he's made
Speaker 1: his way in the business. So I'm sure Baylor schematically
Speaker 1: was something that Isaac wasn't used to. But Utah stayed
Speaker 1: up in the logan is probably the most hostile environment
Speaker 1: that young man's ever played in front of I know
Speaker 1: corner Canny gets some big crowds, but I was proud
Speaker 1: of him.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 1: I thought he stepped up. I thought he met the moment.
Speaker 1: I thought he answered a lot of questions. What do
Speaker 1: you make of what we saw from Isaac on Saturday?
Speaker 12: Isaac Wilson is much better than most true freshman quarterbacks,
Speaker 12: and by a mile by the way, He's going to
Speaker 12: get exponentially better as the year goes on. The question
Speaker 12: is how good is he going to get and how fast?
Speaker 12: And which games are going to be the ones where
Speaker 12: the wheels wobble at all, where you know, film crew
Speaker 12: or scouts try to catch up to him from each team, right,
Speaker 12: that being coaching staffs when.
Speaker 1: They're preparing for him.
Speaker 12: But the big one for this Saturday, the big question is, okay,
Speaker 12: Isaac Wilson will kind of jump?
Speaker 1: Is he going to take? I think this game is
Speaker 1: going to be.
Speaker 12: Decided by the offensive line of Utah playing and simple.
Speaker 12: This is a Kyle Whittingham game on Saturday. This isn't
Speaker 12: an Isaac Wilson game. This is a Kyle Whittingham game.
Speaker 12: This is where your team is coming along, right, They're
Speaker 12: taking quality strides and I give this team some credit,
Speaker 12: as some Kyle Whittingham teams in some of these recent
Speaker 12: previous years kind of started a bit slow, like maybe
Speaker 12: got away with the win where they didn't play all
Speaker 12: that well. Slow start to that game against Utah State,
Speaker 12: But those last three quarters, I really liked the way
Speaker 12: the old line grinded and the way they started pushing bodies,
Speaker 12: the way they started executing, the way they started smashing.
Speaker 12: If they play like that in this game, but they
Speaker 12: got to do it for four quarters. If they win
Speaker 12: it up front, especially against the way they line up defensively,
Speaker 12: they get to dictate the terms. Life is much easier
Speaker 12: on Isaac Wilson and suddenly Utah with Kyle Whittingham, who
Speaker 12: knows how to get the best out of what any
Speaker 12: situation happens to be. If that happens, they win this game,
Speaker 12: this type of game. There's so many games people are
Speaker 12: going to remember about Kyle Whittingham, and they're gonna remember
Speaker 12: the Sugar Bowl, and they're gonna remember some you know,
Speaker 12: landmark victories. To me, it's the at Washington State a
Speaker 12: few years ago, where you find out your starting quarterbacks
Speaker 12: not gonna play and you find a way to win
Speaker 12: it's the home against USC where you're down big like
Speaker 12: that you find a way to win. It's the Travis
Speaker 12: Wilson at home against USC where you barely scored anything
Speaker 12: on offense, but you keep it close and you win
Speaker 12: at the end USC last year. I know, I'm just
Speaker 12: pointing out USC games, but there's several of them that
Speaker 12: we can go to where it's like.
Speaker 1: Man, oh, they won that game.
Speaker 12: A hell of a job, and you look at the
Speaker 12: work of coaching and some of the guys that come
Speaker 12: through and help you in the win at home against
Speaker 12: BYU in twenty twelve, it was the field storming game.
Speaker 1: That was a Kyle Whittingham game. Your longest drives for
Speaker 1: a touchdown were seventeen yards and thirty nine yards. You
Speaker 1: found a way to win with John Hayes like that
Speaker 1: was dude, that was some work. Yeah, And it's it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this through the prism, like I'm
Speaker 1: watching Chiefs Bengals, and I'm like, Chiefs will figure it out.
Speaker 1: They're gonna win somehow, someway right, And I never fully
Speaker 1: and you probably experienced the same thing because on Saturday,
Speaker 1: I said this. On Friday, that Utah State game had
Speaker 1: some of the tricky dynamics of what an upset game
Speaker 1: could encapsulate. And I say this every Monday. One of
Speaker 1: the reasons I love college football so much is the
Speaker 1: unpredictable nature of it, and really good teams get got
Speaker 1: every week, and Utah rarely gets got in a scenario
Speaker 1: where they're not supposed to lose. So unless there is
Speaker 1: a cataclysmic injury situation like there was a year ago,
Speaker 1: which made last year a moot point, I don't even
Speaker 1: reference it. It's a miracle that got to eight. I
Speaker 1: thought that was a great coaching job. More often than not,
Speaker 1: when Utah football is supposed to win a game, they
Speaker 1: win a game. He very rarely gets got when he's
Speaker 1: not supposed to get got. So I view Saturday ultimately
Speaker 1: as a massive success because you handled your business and
Speaker 1: it was never fully uncomfortable. I mean, they go down
Speaker 1: fourteen three. But I always get such a kick out
Speaker 1: of football fans who in the first and second quarter
Speaker 1: are tweeting like they're about to jump off their roof.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the first quarter. You can't be up
Speaker 1: a million to three after one, Like, give it some time.
Speaker 1: Just see Bears fans in the city. Oh sure, they're sure,
Speaker 1: But it was a combination of to your point, just
Speaker 1: a do your job, work ethic coach, wit win. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's not get God here, Let's not get let's not
Speaker 1: get stung by an end state team when a lot
Speaker 1: of their players probably want to play for Utah. You
Speaker 1: know they're going to show up against a CFP contender
Speaker 1: to put good tape out there, and some of them
Speaker 1: did for their pro careers, Like, let's not get God here.
Speaker 1: So that's simply put showing up getting to win when
Speaker 1: it never was fully in doubt. It just wasn't but
Speaker 1: then to know because look, Tony, I know you're not
Speaker 1: a gambler, but if I called you, I said, hey,
Speaker 1: you have no choice but to put the Tony Park
Speaker 1: paycheck from any of your seventy million jobs on the line,
Speaker 1: and the bet is will came rising play every game
Speaker 1: this season. Who is going to bet on that? Like,
Speaker 1: I don't want him to get hurt, and we want
Speaker 1: to see camp play all year. But I think it's
Speaker 1: fair to say that there's a really good chance that
Speaker 1: Utah is going to need Isaac in a pretty tricky
Speaker 1: spot in conference play, because what's the confidence level. The
Speaker 1: Cameron's just going to be under center all year. It's
Speaker 1: hard to have that right now.
Speaker 12: No, it really is hard to have that. So you
Speaker 12: need Isaac to just continue to progress. And I love
Speaker 12: this kid. I loved the first time I ever saw
Speaker 12: Isaac Wilson. He's playing in a game against Loam Peak
Speaker 12: and this is a sophomore game, so by no means
Speaker 12: it says varsity whatever.
Speaker 1: He's a freshman. It's early in the season.
Speaker 12: And he throws a really bad interception before halftime, and
Speaker 12: I mean, the coaching staff is just all over him.
Speaker 12: I mean, he was okay to be coached hard, and
Speaker 12: he took it on the chin and he owned it.
Speaker 12: He came out in the second half, they were down
Speaker 12: like seventeen eight minutes to go, and he rallied him
Speaker 12: back to win that game, and he made throws that
Speaker 12: were just insane, and I remember being like, this dude
Speaker 12: is tough.
Speaker 1: His name Wilson. Kids can sling it, oh man, no
Speaker 1: doubt about that.
Speaker 12: As a Jets I watched him from each piece of
Speaker 12: that not just grow a little bit, but grow so fast,
Speaker 12: so quickly. And I understand college football is a different deal.
Speaker 12: I'm not saying a sophomore high school experience is truly
Speaker 12: what's going to represent his whole but his mindset and
Speaker 12: also where he comes from and a family that has
Speaker 12: played at high levels.
Speaker 1: You can see that he absorbs things quite quickly.
Speaker 12: And then you have a coaching staff who's great at
Speaker 12: managing problem solving and Jason Bennetti said it last year
Speaker 12: and that came against the USC. Is there a program
Speaker 12: that's better a problem solving No, there's not. So then
Speaker 12: you have all these ingredients with a chance for him
Speaker 12: to excel. I'm not saying he's going to hit all
Speaker 12: American level this next week, but I think he'll take
Speaker 12: a very good stride forward, and if that offensive line
Speaker 12: can play like they did during those final three weeks,
Speaker 12: I think they have a chance to have a great
Speaker 12: victory in Stillwater. Now, there's still plenty of variables. You
Speaker 12: got to perform right. You have to execute. You can't
Speaker 12: come out there on the road and get off to
Speaker 12: a slow start. You can't feel your way into this game.
Speaker 12: You can't take what the defense gives you. No, you
Speaker 12: just got to go get it. And that old line
Speaker 12: can make life a lot easier on a QB in Wilson,
Speaker 12: who I think has great skills and talent. By the way,
Speaker 12: you now have I think a great weapon on third down,
Speaker 12: red zone, cold Weather another one and say just one
Speaker 12: but loner going up and getting the ball and Wilson
Speaker 12: with great touch, like that's that's fabulous. That's a great sign.
Speaker 12: So this is all formulating and coming together. And if
Speaker 12: this is that week where I think they polish it
Speaker 12: for four quarters.
Speaker 1: They win this game. And I just think it was
Speaker 1: so good for the fan base to see a dynamic
Speaker 1: in place. And look, Oklahoma State will be a different challenge.
Speaker 1: And if Isaac has to play on a random Saturday,
Speaker 1: a road game in a hostile Big twelve environment, then
Speaker 1: we're gonna see he's made of because this is a
Speaker 1: different thing. I'm not saying it's not. But for how
Speaker 1: bad it was last year when it was Rice and
Speaker 1: th Nate then Nate, than Bryson, then Nate and Bryson,
Speaker 1: the fact that the fans were able to see it
Speaker 1: can look okay this year. Even if cam hasked to
Speaker 1: miss time, I think put a lot of fears to
Speaker 1: bed because the dude, you know the deal. The conversation
Speaker 1: for Utah football over the past three four weeks leading
Speaker 1: up into the season. Here Kyle say it. Here coach
Speaker 1: lud say it, like, we need Cam to be smart,
Speaker 1: We need him to show discretion is the better form
Speaker 1: of valor. We need him to throw the ball away,
Speaker 1: We need him to get down, we need him healthy.
Speaker 1: And he lasted a game and a half and here
Speaker 1: we are again. Now it's not a long term thing,
Speaker 1: and we're told that he is going to play on Saturday,
Speaker 1: that's the plan against Oklahoma State. But the fact that
Speaker 1: it took a game and a half for Cameron to
Speaker 1: miss a game, not a couple of snaps, not a
Speaker 1: couple of series, He missed an entire game that, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, read a lot of anxiety around here, like, oh,
Speaker 1: here we go again. It's gonna look like it did
Speaker 1: last year. And I think Tony, at least for one day,
Speaker 1: the fan base saw that it's not going to look
Speaker 1: like last year. In the event that came this time.
Speaker 12: No, totally agreed, because now you're dealing with a guy
Speaker 12: with a lot more skills, and that's no slight to
Speaker 12: the guys before.
Speaker 1: It's just a fact guy has more skills.
Speaker 12: You watch the way he throws the ball, the different
Speaker 12: types of throws. He's more polished, he's more skilled. You
Speaker 12: don't have to protect yourself from him. It's not be
Speaker 12: careful country. It's not John Hayes where you throw it
Speaker 12: deep once each half and then try to hand it
Speaker 12: off to John White for the other you know whatever,
Speaker 12: sixty five snaps.
Speaker 1: No, that's not it.
Speaker 12: The preparation is going to give a more skilled quarterback
Speaker 12: when he's out there, that being Isaac a lot more
Speaker 12: confidence on what's going on. Plus, you have a great
Speaker 12: coach in Cam Rising who has no reason not to
Speaker 12: help coach this guy up right, because when Cam is
Speaker 12: fully healthy and ready, he's the guy that's back out there.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 12: So there's a great amount of trust that's in this program.
Speaker 12: And I've seen it ten thousand times. It's very very
Speaker 12: rare in this day and age in college football right now,
Speaker 12: with depth and experience on that coaching staff that you
Speaker 12: always feel like they're going to give you the very
Speaker 12: best chance possible with what you're working with here, and
Speaker 12: what you're working with is still very good. Yeah, So
Speaker 12: I'm with you on the here we go again. It's
Speaker 12: going to give anxiety. The one thing you got to
Speaker 12: do is exhale and say, man, we got a great
Speaker 12: coach in place. They're going to come prepared for a
Speaker 12: guy in Wilson. It's not like he's coming in there. Hey,
Speaker 12: you know, this is kind of his thing.
Speaker 1: He's new.
Speaker 12: We don't really know what he's made of. No, I
Speaker 12: think we've seen some of what he's made of. And
Speaker 12: I think at his very very best, he's showing you
Speaker 12: some flashes to be great, and I think he's going
Speaker 12: to show you continued.
Speaker 1: Flashes to be responsible.
Speaker 12: The big one there, too, is defense has got to
Speaker 12: come up with some more timely plays.
Speaker 1: The Snowden pick was I think as big as anything.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. Yeah, like that.
Speaker 12: I did not see a pick coming on that play.
Speaker 12: At best, they saw a PBu Like. The guy's a
Speaker 12: hell of a player, right, I chance to see him
Speaker 12: up close a lot. So it's some of that all
Speaker 12: mixed in together to get what I think will be
Speaker 12: a close road victory.
Speaker 1: But I could see the fan being a concern.
Speaker 12: The other thing you got to remember is be happy
Speaker 12: that you're in a conference that is not going to
Speaker 12: be like Oregon and Washington and maybe USC happened to
Speaker 12: be at the top last year, and you are dealing
Speaker 12: with a team that is well put into place to
Speaker 12: go give you a great chance the rest of the way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a lot to be confident about.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think the next four games it's
Speaker 1: not an easy task. It's Oklahoma State, it's Arizona at home,
Speaker 1: then it's at Arizona State, who's been a lot better
Speaker 1: than anybody thought. I'm a big UCF guy, but I'm
Speaker 1: not super down on TCU after that great football game
Speaker 1: over the weekend. That's how UCF just beat them and
Speaker 1: the other thing and then we'll move on because I
Speaker 1: have to wonder. Brock heword hopped on the show prior
Speaker 1: to the season, and I actually heard him talking about
Speaker 1: this on the Utah Baylor broadcast as well. It's not
Speaker 1: a slight corner canyon. It's not a slight high school football.
Speaker 1: Andy Ludwigs playbook is ten times to what you know
Speaker 1: as it pertains to what Isaac Wilson has used to study,
Speaker 1: and it's a different thing altogether. It's a different level.
Speaker 1: It's more complex and nuanced. But I thought coach lud
Speaker 1: let him go a little bit against Utah STAATEI threw
Speaker 1: it thirty three times. So I wonder, and again, let's
Speaker 1: be clear here for people that are turning on the radio,
Speaker 1: same way they're talking about Isaac Wilson playing now, Cam
Speaker 1: is expected to play on Saturday. But I wonder if
Speaker 1: Isaac needs to get back in there. Did Andy c
Speaker 1: enough from him on Saturday to continue to give him
Speaker 1: some freedoms to be who he is as opposed to
Speaker 1: to your point, just three yards in a cloud of dust.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think he has. I think he has I
Speaker 12: think he has the maturity. I think he has the focus.
Speaker 12: I think he has the tenacity. I think he has
Speaker 12: the responsible mindset where he can still play with abundance
Speaker 12: with out having to be careless, but yet plays with
Speaker 12: the right amount of scarcity and understanding control and managing
Speaker 12: the game. And Kyle today was like, Okay, I shouldn't
Speaker 12: use the word managing because it sounds like we're trying
Speaker 12: to protect ourselves fromhim. But no, he understands the full
Speaker 12: sixty minutes, the ten possessions or whatever, ten to twelve possessions,
Speaker 12: and he has an element to his game that he
Speaker 12: understands how to consume the whole game so well. And
Speaker 12: I know some of this is because I was so
Speaker 12: close to it for so many years. But I was
Speaker 12: so impressed, you know, with Zak obviously, and I'm impressed
Speaker 12: with Isaac in that way. I think he's well ahead
Speaker 12: of what most people in his position would be and
Speaker 12: so is he finished. No, But if you end up
Speaker 12: having to go to him again somewhere, because as you
Speaker 12: mentioned like that, there's an injury situation there that exists.
Speaker 12: You're not trying to speak ill of can, but it
Speaker 12: just is what it is. You've got a lot of
Speaker 12: games left and you might need to have this again.
Speaker 12: And when you need to go to it, are you
Speaker 12: going to have Conference player of the Year type performance?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: All American No.
Speaker 12: But what you will have is something that you can
Speaker 12: depend on to minimize the gap between who your starter
Speaker 12: is and who your backup is.
Speaker 1: Because last year it was quite a drop. Let me
Speaker 1: get a quick by you thought from you before we
Speaker 1: catch a break for the five o'clock hour of the show.
Speaker 1: Last year, it just it was weird in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways for a team whose head coach was Kolonie
Speaker 1: Satake and his defensive coordinator was Jay Hill to be
Speaker 1: I think they were last in the country in sacks.
Speaker 1: They could not pressure the quarterback. It didn't look great.
Speaker 1: Keaton Slows never fully settled in. They get off to
Speaker 1: a decent start, then they get smoked in conference play.
Speaker 1: But it was the defense that confused me. Because Kilanie
Speaker 1: that's his thing. Jay Hill, that's his thing. We were
Speaker 1: talking about David Randa earlier. Klane cut his teeth under Kyle,
Speaker 1: so did Jay. They know the deal. They know that
Speaker 1: in order to win football games, you have to be
Speaker 1: stout on that side of the ball, and they are
Speaker 1: this year very stout defensively in a way that I
Speaker 1: don't think they were a year ago. Now, a lot
Speaker 1: of it's going to come down to Jake and I'd
Speaker 1: sit down and turn on the game. He throws that
Speaker 1: early pick and I'm like, dude, what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: I mean, a Rod last week said I will eliminate
Speaker 1: the turnovers for my program. As QB goes out, throws
Speaker 1: an early pick and I'm like, well, Hannah started warming up.
Speaker 1: It was on the broadcast, and they started warming up
Speaker 1: a hand in. I'm like, all right, they're gonna pull
Speaker 1: the plug. But I thought Jake, just like Isaac, responded
Speaker 1: really well Manton on Friday said Wyoming sucks. B why
Speaker 1: you should roll. I wasn't convinced that Wyoming sucked, but
Speaker 1: they suck, and n By you rolled. Give me your
Speaker 1: thoughts on By's clean start.
Speaker 12: Well, I think Wyoming isn't very good, and I think
Speaker 12: BYU is going to be tested even more so here
Speaker 12: coming up.
Speaker 1: The big thing is can you play consistently enough?
Speaker 12: Can you stay away from some of the catastrophic mistakes
Speaker 12: that against Wyoming you'll get away with here and there?
Speaker 12: Like Utah had a slow start in their game against
Speaker 12: Utah State, right, you can't do that against Oklahoma State.
Speaker 12: But at your best, which I think they showed during
Speaker 12: huge stretches of those final three quarters, you can dominate
Speaker 12: a team like that, and you can absolutely show the
Speaker 12: fundamental sound abilities to control a game by you. I
Speaker 12: still need to see more from them that they can
Speaker 12: avoid some of the catastrophic mistakes that give me belief
Speaker 12: that they can have a much better season than I
Speaker 12: had originally expected. Right, some of that is still going
Speaker 12: to be a work in progress, and I think one
Speaker 12: of the big questions about them at all P four level,
Speaker 12: if you will, is can they get the players often
Speaker 12: enough to be that kind of program that emerges and grows. Right,
Speaker 12: there was an acclimation period for Utah to the PAC twelve,
Speaker 12: and that was clearly a few years there where they
Speaker 12: were sub five hundred, didn't go to bulls, things like that,
Speaker 12: and then all of a sudden it was eight plus
Speaker 12: wins regularly for BYU. I'm very curious about that, because
Speaker 12: the acclimation period is different because you're recruiting, your situation
Speaker 12: is unique. I do think they have as good a
Speaker 12: staff as you could ask for, with great abilities to
Speaker 12: recruit in a variety of different ways. Now the big
Speaker 12: thing is just how good is their best And I
Speaker 12: think Jay who if you look at what they do defensively, yeah,
Speaker 12: it comes from perfecting fundamentals, lane discipline, guys understanding their job,
Speaker 12: not getting outside of themselves. But on offense, you've got
Speaker 12: to be able to make big plays more often enough.
Speaker 12: And then the other thing you're gonna need is you
Speaker 12: got to stay away from some of the catastrophic mistakes.
Speaker 12: So how they way that balance here spence against better
Speaker 12: competition that remains to be seen. And I think a
Speaker 12: Rod has a really big task on his hand to
Speaker 12: gauge and balance how that is because Kyle Whittingham, with
Speaker 12: his number of offensive coordinators that he had for years,
Speaker 12: had to figure out how to do that. With Travis Wilson,
Speaker 12: he had to figure out how to do that. I mean,
Speaker 12: obviously with John Hayes and some other guys. He had
Speaker 12: to figure out how to do that without depth because
Speaker 12: when they would have some injuries to olign and then
Speaker 12: you have some quarterback issues all a sudden, you start
Speaker 12: one to five.
Speaker 1: That's hard.
Speaker 12: So I'm very curious to see how a rod works
Speaker 12: and balances that. There's a real fine amount of work
Speaker 12: that goes into that. And by the way, it was
Speaker 12: a part of some of those Utah staffs they had
Speaker 12: to work with that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny some people may forget not to
Speaker 1: do the Trump thing, like everyone forgot. No, you're the
Speaker 1: only one that forgot. There was a time when it
Speaker 1: came to the Utah offensive coordinator spot where it felt
Speaker 1: like it's like, hey, does anyone have Dave Shram's number?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 1: Like it was such a turnover right year in and
Speaker 1: year out. The coach lud has really solidified that. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you one more thing, because I think I've
Speaker 1: got your take on this, and I'm surprised. Now, let's
Speaker 1: be clear, the reporting on this is murky because nil stuff.
Speaker 1: There's some websites here there, and there's some reporting that
Speaker 1: you can look at. By all accounts, and this is
Speaker 1: a Ryan Smith thing because Ryan's a basketball guy. But
Speaker 1: by all accounts, BYU at this point has tremendous resources
Speaker 1: invested in their basketball program, yet they have not found
Speaker 1: the football equivalent of Ryan Smith. And I just thought,
Speaker 1: i mean, look, i come from a family of BYU fans.
Speaker 1: I've got a brother who's the CEO of a company,
Speaker 1: and there are so many ex BYU athletes or just
Speaker 1: x BYU students that go on to start companies or
Speaker 1: MLMs and make a ton of money. They'll love BYU football.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised the Ryan Smith equivalent for the
Speaker 1: football program has not manifested itself just yet, at least
Speaker 1: as far as our understanding goes.
Speaker 12: So I said this from the beginning, I was working
Speaker 12: at America First Credit Union. There weren't many people in
Speaker 12: the art office at the time. It was COVID, but
Speaker 12: there are a few people and we would talk football
Speaker 12: in It was a great time, and this nil thing
Speaker 12: really started getting big. They talked about how big a
Speaker 12: deal it could be for football, and that's what they
Speaker 12: wanted to see. Hey, there's a lot of people to
Speaker 12: support this team. They could really get behind it in
Speaker 12: these different ways. I said, I think basketball is where
Speaker 12: they can really make it happen. Because you have a
Speaker 12: smaller number of players, you have a much better chance
Speaker 12: to garner some stars. You have a twenty thousand seed
Speaker 12: arena that you can pack. I think they have game
Speaker 12: presentation that is second to none. They're so good with
Speaker 12: their game, they're so good with their fan experience. I
Speaker 12: tip my hat to them all the time. They're really
Speaker 12: really good at it. And that's not to disparage anybody else.
Speaker 12: I just think they really have something there that I
Speaker 12: think is very impressive, and so they've worked hard at
Speaker 12: it and they've taken pride in it.
Speaker 1: I think if you're an.
Speaker 12: Athlete, you love to see that in basketball, the way
Speaker 12: that they do it, And people at Utah would say, well, well
Speaker 12: why not us, Well, no, it's hard because you don't
Speaker 12: have enough people there to have some of what you're
Speaker 12: trying to build, and obviously that comes with winning, and
Speaker 12: we can go down that rabbit hole in another day.
Speaker 12: So it's kind of unfair to some of the other
Speaker 12: staffs trying to put together a good fan experience because
Speaker 12: BAU basketball has something there. They put together some good
Speaker 12: wins there with Pope, they had a good run that
Speaker 12: you know, they went to an NCAA tournament.
Speaker 1: Whatever. They're stacked right on paper this year, this year,
Speaker 1: this year, the.
Speaker 12: Juice is just high man and you you did a
Speaker 12: lot with the coaching staff. So Niol with basketball, I
Speaker 12: thought was going to have the first big impact. I
Speaker 12: do think they can get there with football, but it's
Speaker 12: got to be with like a quarterback and then a
Speaker 12: key running back receiver, right, so you dial in on
Speaker 12: a couple of key positions for that and you target
Speaker 12: in on that, and that is the way it would
Speaker 12: have to happen. That I think is a slower process.
Speaker 12: I really do believe it's a slower process there, Spence,
Speaker 12: and it's it's got to be something that's gonna come
Speaker 12: over time.
Speaker 1: Where's basketball.
Speaker 12: I thought they would actually have it earlier than they
Speaker 12: have until now now they're ready to go. But I
Speaker 12: remember saying that all the way back and like the
Speaker 12: fall of twenty twenty, going no, this is this is
Speaker 12: actually where they can have massive advancement.
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