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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball

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<v Speaker 2>here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a busy show today. Today we have Dave

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<v Speaker 2>silver in with me in the studio and Troy Hutchison

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<v Speaker 2>fromgoasecats dot Com, so it's a packed house. And then

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have some pretty good and we also have

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<v Speaker 2>our guy here, mister Kobe. Kobe. How you doing, Kobe,

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<v Speaker 2>Good to see you. And then we're gonna have Ben

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<v Speaker 2>Hallen in the first hour three seventeen, and then we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have Jarrett Ramirez from Rivals in Texas Tech, So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be busy with all this thing is going on. Hello, Dave,

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Troy.

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<v Speaker 3>How's it going?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Troy?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you okay?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing better?

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 5>I can speak now? So you know? Is that what

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<v Speaker 5>you call speaking somewhat someone?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Do you don't have headphones? I don't okay. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought you were one of those guys up right.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you have battery.

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<v Speaker 2>It works. Welcome to the Step Aware Crack Studio. Bring

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<v Speaker 2>your own equipment. Yeah, you have higher tech stuff than

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<v Speaker 2>I do. That one those were used on mine. Welcome everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Thursday Show. I think you should be a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of fun show, talking a lot about college basketball

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<v Speaker 2>and the state of college basketball. I saw Ben Hallan

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<v Speaker 2>out of game here maybe two three weeks ago and

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<v Speaker 2>talked to him briefly and said, could you come on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, and he said sure. So I'm gonna reminisce

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<v Speaker 2>about the good old days when he was at u

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<v Speaker 2>c l A. He had that thing, I mean, Dave

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<v Speaker 2>he did. They won a national championship. Not for him

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<v Speaker 2>now with him, no, No, it was that was yeah America. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>he took he took UCLA to three straight final four.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I was thinking, right, Yeah, that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with some great group love Westbrook and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of other guys in there. So we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about that, the good old days and even today.

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<v Speaker 2>He was most recently at Mississippi State was let go

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<v Speaker 2>I think in twenty twenty two, and now they have

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<v Speaker 2>the former New Mexico State coach there who are who's

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<v Speaker 2>doing very well over there, So we'll talk to him

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<v Speaker 2>about the state of the NIL and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you gotta wonder what, you know, if he ever

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to come back, he's he's still sixty seven, that'll

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<v Speaker 3>be a question that we asked. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we talked about that briefly in terms of aren't

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<v Speaker 2>you glad you're out?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure and he probably said, oh yeah, damn straight.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna say a lot of coaches you know of that,

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<v Speaker 5>I coach k coach Williams retiring all at once. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you have this nil thing going on, nobody wants to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I would assume that there's going to be more after

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<v Speaker 2>this year. The Miami coach, that's right. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a seventy seventy four to seventy five. Yeah, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see more and more of that happening, just like

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<v Speaker 2>the guys when we have Kendre and Lopez and all

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<v Speaker 2>these guys coming in and saying, I'm glad I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to do with that stuff anymore. And it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, all the transfers and all that. What'd you

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<v Speaker 2>see recently, Troy about quarterbacks getting paid x amount of money.

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<v Speaker 2>HU guy one point five or three. I saw.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw that recently in terms of viewers from Texas

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<v Speaker 5>turned down eight million dollars to stay to declare for

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<v Speaker 5>the NFL instead. So he's not transferring, he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean he was he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be given eight million.

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<v Speaker 5>Eight million from another school. Yeah, so that's the number.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, and he thinks he's going to get

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<v Speaker 3>that much in a signing bonus or something with.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta move on sometimes, I guess you gotta move

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<v Speaker 2>on some time. And there was something like the Miami

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm sure he got some well his girlfriends at

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<v Speaker 5>at Miami as well. That's free, you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 5>free move. But I'm just saying, you know, there are

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<v Speaker 5>other other things around there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not like you couldn't have got a girl

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<v Speaker 2>at Georgia too. So we'll see what happens with all

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff. Welcome to the show. We talked a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about basketball. Basketball, let's talk a little about football. There's

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<v Speaker 2>still a lot of news there. We're not gonna we

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<v Speaker 2>might do breaking news. I'm not so sure, because we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be so full. Some more goings on to Detroy

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<v Speaker 2>with tight end coach.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, hiring Josh Miller, the tight end coach.

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<v Speaker 5>Spent one year with Seth at Marshall for you know,

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<v Speaker 5>leaving Marshall when that coaching staff had their changeover. Was

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<v Speaker 5>hired at Mississippi Southern miss but decided to join Seth

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<v Speaker 5>him at Purdue as an offensive analyst as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so more comings and goings anymore holds.

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<v Speaker 5>The special teams coordinator would be the number one thing

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<v Speaker 5>now on the list.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that's what's left?

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<v Speaker 5>That is what's left.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well we had who do we have on yesterday?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember, glev Michael Laff. Yeah. He talked about

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<v Speaker 2>just the things going on with the right moves. Seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>the right moves right at least you think there'd be

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<v Speaker 2>improved moves. Do you think that?

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<v Speaker 5>I think they're improved moves. They are easy moves. There

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<v Speaker 5>are moves that should have been made with previous coaching staffs.

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Salavea, obviously that's a huge pickup for Arizona. You

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<v Speaker 5>have the associate head coaching title with him, plus the

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<v Speaker 5>d line coaching title as well. He got that at Miami.

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<v Speaker 5>He probably got paid more at Miami. So this is

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<v Speaker 5>a move of I want to come home. I want

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<v Speaker 5>to be at Arizona, and it's a move that he's

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<v Speaker 5>been wanting to make for a very long time, not

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<v Speaker 5>only as a defensive line coach, but he did apply

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<v Speaker 5>to be the head coach back when Fish was hired

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<v Speaker 5>to be the head coach of Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, and I think he's going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>associate head coach. Yes, is that right? So you never

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<v Speaker 2>know the coaching wait, just in case, but how old

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<v Speaker 2>is around fifty? Yeah? Yeah, I'm talking about Brennany Brent.

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<v Speaker 2>long and blog careers ahead of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Salave was super popular here too as a player, and

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<v Speaker 3>everybody kind of followed him and watched him get into

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<v Speaker 3>coaching and wondered why wasn't he here. So it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of nice and it's kind of comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one of the reasons, I think, Dave, you might

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<v Speaker 2>know this better than me. Oh, Troy Rich had a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to keep him, right or Rich.

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<v Speaker 5>So rich when he first came in, let go of

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Salavea, I'm not going to go into details.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I I can go ahead, I can speculate.

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<v Speaker 5>And then wanted him back several years later, realizing the

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<v Speaker 5>mistake he made it to begin with, and just said, no,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm good. You didn't want me the first time. That's right,

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<v Speaker 5>that's not good.

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<v Speaker 3>Well go beat you from Oregon or Washington State.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we didn't. He kind of Rich kind of feel

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<v Speaker 2>threatened with having in house people kind.

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<v Speaker 5>Of here from from my understanding talking to other alumni,

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<v Speaker 5>that was part of it. But also the Polynesian influence

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<v Speaker 5>that Joe Salavea and the previous staff had on Arizona

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't something that Rich was really willing to explore. He

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<v Speaker 5>didn't feel like that meant his system. He wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>explore other recruiting options.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, how'd that go? Yeah, And that's why you

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<v Speaker 2>probably wanted him to exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Once you realized that mistake. It's hard to mend those.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's already started with that.

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<v Speaker 2>With that with give me a couple of names in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of the kids coming back to players coming here.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, you have ta coming in from Texas, who

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<v Speaker 5>was here previously a season ago, transferred to Texas, played

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<v Speaker 5>the season at Texas, is now is coming back. Salavea

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<v Speaker 5>recruited him obviously at Oregon. Uh he went when ended

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<v Speaker 5>But Uh, Salve and have a strongly relationship and he's

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<v Speaker 5>here at Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>And also goes to show guys that gress isn't always greener, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and you're not gonna be you may not.

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<v Speaker 2>You may be good here, you may not play somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 2>and and here we want you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's definitely the case I would think for Joe, he

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<v Speaker 3>was you know, he was here in the early nineties

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<v Speaker 3>as a kid and you know, kind of saw what

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<v Speaker 3>Tucson was all about, had some good wins, part of

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<v Speaker 3>some great teams, goes away, wants to come back. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just like I said, it's just kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>fairy tale finish at least or at least stop for him,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think he wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>To be here for a long time and Slavia specifically

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<v Speaker 2>where yeah he was here, wanted to get whatever he

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<v Speaker 2>got at Texas, didn't get a whole lot of playing time,

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<v Speaker 2>so there that's that's women what sal Yeah, so that

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<v Speaker 2>him so he left, didn't play a whole lot. Now

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to come.

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<v Speaker 5>Back, and you know the relationship, it's a good relationship.

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Salve obviously strong Polynesian connections, has great recruiting prowess

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<v Speaker 5>and just a very good fit. And you know, we've

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<v Speaker 5>seen Joe Salve here in this defensive line coaching position

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<v Speaker 5>before under Mike Soups and had a tremendous success building

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<v Speaker 5>that defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we'll see what happens with that.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Anymore news with the football. I think that's about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Throughout recruiting right now.

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<v Speaker 5>They're out recruiting right now. It's in recruiting. Was some

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<v Speaker 5>offensive and defensive analysts in Texas, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You you followed closely, h Troy. How much did a

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<v Speaker 2>issue success help them or hurt Arizona.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if it hurts Arizona a issue did

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<v Speaker 5>it a lot? With the transfer portal, you know, you

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<v Speaker 5>bring in the quarterback from Michigan State, you bring in

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<v Speaker 5>Cam Scattaboo from Sack State, and some of those things

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<v Speaker 5>fell into place where I don't think anybody thought Cam

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<v Speaker 5>Skattaboy was going to be that type of player. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you didn't think Levitt was going to have that good

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<v Speaker 5>of a season. And they had bumps and bruises along

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<v Speaker 5>the way, But yeah, scheduling and it just fell into place.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now, what Arizona needs to do is get back

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<v Speaker 5>to what it was doing in terms of recruiting and

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<v Speaker 5>laying a foundation. And you saw that messed up a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit last year. But with the new coaching staff

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<v Speaker 5>coming in, it looks like Arizona's trying to get back

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<v Speaker 5>to its roots.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll see. Did you you didn't cover? You didn't

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<v Speaker 2>cover you? You were more unobservant. I'll ask you again

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<v Speaker 3>There's not too many skataboos out there.

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 5>And I think what happened was when you saw Luke

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<v Speaker 2>The time he's on the field. Yeah, we just got

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<v Speaker 2>uh football. We'll talk a lot about basketball, obviously. Your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on what you saw. We haven't seen you since

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<v Speaker 2>that stayed up?

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<v Speaker 2>You and I are part of the ones that Timmy

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<v Speaker 3>Because it was, you know, kind of an atypical UVE

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<v Speaker 3>of dwindled away. But they played great in the first

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<v Speaker 3>half and Caleb was nowhere to be found and kind of,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what did he did? He even get ten points?

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<v Speaker 7>Nice?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Andy's still you know, three strong performance.

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<v Speaker 2>Three for ten. The thing that impressed me the most, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>was that they were very aggressive and very physical, something

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about you, guys, but I mean, Henry,

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<v Speaker 3>He kind of reminded me of that a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's got that great outside shot. So far,

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<v Speaker 3>so good to watch. I agree with uh, I agree

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<v Speaker 3>with through. I think he's gonna be a pro.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's still way early, but he's got the tools

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<v Speaker 5>I think the difference is the hustle. He's able to

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<v Speaker 5>hustle get the fifty fifty balls. I tweeted out and

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<v Speaker 5>kind of jokingly because you can't be this physical and

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<v Speaker 5>this type of era of college basketball or basketball today.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's kind of got that Billi and Beer feel

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<v Speaker 5>about him, kind of like I'm going to get that

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's yea feisty at feisty some energy they need,

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<v Speaker 2>no question, let me say that they wouldn't get that

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<v Speaker 2>from Cretis Crevas, and they wouldn't. I don't know. If

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he would be playing. It's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to ask a question like, you know, how would you

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<v Speaker 2>be playing if Crevas was still here? He wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>playing as much, he wouldn't be dependent on as much,

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<v Speaker 2>and Crevas would kind of slowly offense down.

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<v Speaker 5>I think not only that, but just the team in general.

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<v Speaker 5>I think one of the main things of why Arizon

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<v Speaker 5>has gone on this winning streak is Henry Vassar and

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<v Speaker 5>the energy that he's brought off the bench. You don't

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<v Speaker 5>have that energy of Crevis. It's no offense to him.

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<v Speaker 5>He's just limited right now, and so I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>I mean again, kJ and Vassar were the basically top

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<v Speaker 2>The game off the bench, and they're not bench dude.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they're playing yeah thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 7>Still.

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<v Speaker 2>So I said this a couple of days ago, or

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<v Speaker 2>even yesterday, Dave. In the history of the big man,

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona big man, they're not really known for big men, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Who who's the last good big men from Arizona?

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<v Speaker 5>DeAndre Ayden?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he was pretty good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but even even you know what, I'm not sold. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sold on the Andre in terms of the yeah yeah, good, good,

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<v Speaker 2>good answer. I'm not gonna take that answer phoneo, friend,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna believe in. I like it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can't like him to Lauren Woods. But uh, this place

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<v Speaker 2>is not known for big men. He's not a Tarzouski,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not a those big guys, because those guys are

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<v Speaker 2>just big dudes, right.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the last I think what you're looking for

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<v Speaker 5>is consistency, and the last time Arizona had that was

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<v Speaker 5>Jordan Hill. George, Yeah, yeah, nineteen ten. Yeah, you're in

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<v Speaker 5>and you're out and that's a good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah you not the same

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<v Speaker 2>build but still kind of tall and thin. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>a bad one. Yeah yeah, I'm thinking more. Lauren can

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<v Speaker 2>shot block and stuff. Well, let's take this call real quick, just.

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<v Speaker 3>Just because it's Lauren on nine one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, you're on the air and eye on the ball.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like a mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down all the xs and os. This is I

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to have the ball here Fox sportspoorteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Steve Rivera, You're Dave Silver, You're Troy Hunchesson, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna wait for Ben's call any second now. H

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<v Speaker 2>I just texted him, so okay, cool, what do you can

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<v Speaker 2>ask him?

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<v Speaker 5>Guys? You know, I'm excited to talk to him and

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<v Speaker 5>really talk about those old back ten airs on the

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<v Speaker 5>UCLA matchups and really the atmosphere of those games at

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<v Speaker 5>poly in McHale Center. When you talk about West Coast

468
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<v Speaker 5>basketball and rivalries and college basketball, there's hard hardly any

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<v Speaker 5>rivalries better than that game right there.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many good players like you mentioned briefly earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, guys like you know, Kevin Love and college

472
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<v Speaker 3>with Darren Collison, people like that, Jordan Farmar, Ryan Hollins,

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron follows so many guys who went to the NBA Westbrook.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's just he had a lot of good,

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<v Speaker 3>great talent there those years.

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<v Speaker 2>Coaches, Yes, it is, yes, great, great. Can you hear us? Okay?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I can hear your fine?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, great coach. Great to see you a couple of

479
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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago. Did you get some heb gbs when you

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<v Speaker 2>came to McHale? But you you played pretty well down

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<v Speaker 2>here with UCLA, So we had some.

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<v Speaker 6>Good games down there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>We played there ten times and a great, great fan

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<v Speaker 6>base was allus. One of the loudest places that we

486
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<v Speaker 6>played every year. The band especially, I love the band there.

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<v Speaker 6>The band is really good, so it was fun. I

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<v Speaker 6>have great memories of playing at McHale.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no question. Let me give you a little memory.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you'll remember this, so I covered

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<v Speaker 2>the teams from nineteen ninety to loots years and a

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<v Speaker 2>little of the Shan's. There was a guy named Ben Helen.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd go meet with you guys in between games, and

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<v Speaker 2>this guy bought us lunch. Well, we had our fireside

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<v Speaker 2>chats with you before the games. You remember that you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to smooth us.

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<v Speaker 6>No, that was not, but yeah, I do remember. You know,

498
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<v Speaker 6>Luke had the program that he would do it had

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<v Speaker 6>the opposing coach come in and talk, and we're doing

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<v Speaker 6>that a couple of times, which was fun.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean great.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it's one of the all time great coaches

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<v Speaker 6>in the history of the game, and it was an

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<v Speaker 6>honor to compete against his teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Before before we get into the thing the stuff is

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<v Speaker 2>going on today, could you talk to us real quick

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<v Speaker 2>about your time at Northern Arizona. Typically, typically and this

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<v Speaker 2>is didn't have to coaches go to there to get,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, experience and eventually get fired because they don't

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<v Speaker 2>do well. You did tremendously well.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we were really fortunate. You know.

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<v Speaker 6>I took that job because no one else would give

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<v Speaker 6>me a chance, and it was a great opportunity. It

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<v Speaker 6>was a one year contract, so you know, there weren't

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of guys I had to beat for the

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<v Speaker 6>job because no one else was going to take a

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<v Speaker 6>one year deal, and so you know, I went there

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<v Speaker 6>in nineteen ninety four and luckily I hired Jamie Dixon,

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<v Speaker 6>who had been our graduate assistant when I was an

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<v Speaker 6>assistant for Jerry Pim and TSP in Santa Barbara.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, Jamie really really was good.

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<v Speaker 6>I had Mike Adris who ended up being my replacement

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<v Speaker 6>right and was there for a long time as well.

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<v Speaker 6>But that was probably, you know, the hardest I ever

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<v Speaker 6>worked in my life. Steve and we were in the

526
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<v Speaker 6>office every night to twelve. He was trying to find

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<v Speaker 6>guys you know, would fit our program. Uh and we

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we ended up going for a profile of

529
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<v Speaker 6>kids that came from smaller communities so.

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<v Speaker 8>They wouldn't be uncomfortable and.

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<v Speaker 6>Flag staff and we got some really good players and

532
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<v Speaker 6>guys that were really under recruited. Ross Land was a

533
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<v Speaker 6>great player, and we got Andrew Mavis who was MVP

534
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<v Speaker 6>the league. Charles Thomas who was a jac kid that

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<v Speaker 6>was MVP the league. Damn McClintock. We got a really

536
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<v Speaker 6>good player out of Phoenix area, Casey Frank that was

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<v Speaker 6>an outstanding big man that really really he played for

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<v Speaker 6>another seventeen years down in the So we were lucky.

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<v Speaker 6>We got a lot of good players. Kavika Kena was

540
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<v Speaker 6>an outstanding point guard that we got left Hawaii to

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<v Speaker 6>come to our place, and it was really really good.

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<v Speaker 6>We had a kid, Michael McNair that was an out

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<v Speaker 6>tanning guard. We had Ryan Abbott out of the Valley

544
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<v Speaker 6>and got Taylor played for Dave Babcock and junior college

545
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<v Speaker 6>there in Arizona was a good player the first couple

546
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<v Speaker 6>of years we were there. So we had we had

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<v Speaker 6>good players, and that's always the key, good players.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, this is Troy Hutchison from God's Acts, coach, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was wondering, you know, I grew up in that

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<v Speaker 5>era when you were the coach of UCLA. But just

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<v Speaker 5>your thoughts reminiscing back of the Pac ten and just

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<v Speaker 5>not only yourself and coach Olsen, but the coaches in

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<v Speaker 5>the conference and the strength of the conference of that era.

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<v Speaker 8>It's so sad to me.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I was at the last Pack ten excuse me,

556
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<v Speaker 6>Pac twelve game last year at Paully when UCLA played

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<v Speaker 6>Arizona State. And to see the conference no longer be

558
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<v Speaker 6>a conference, it's really difficult for those of us who

559
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<v Speaker 6>participated in it. It was a great conference. I mean

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<v Speaker 6>when you go back and look at some of the coaches,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, Mike Montgomery's one of the great coaches of

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<v Speaker 6>the game. I mean, Mike Montgomery is as good as

563
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<v Speaker 6>it gets. And obviously Lout you know, Sean was great

564
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<v Speaker 6>when he was at Arizona and I was competing with

565
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<v Speaker 6>his teams. But you know, Ben Brown was doing a

566
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<v Speaker 6>great job at Cal when I was at UCLA, Learns

567
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<v Speaker 6>of Romar really had things rolling.

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<v Speaker 8>At Washington Obviously.

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<v Speaker 6>Tony Bennett, you know his dad, and he came to

570
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<v Speaker 6>Washington State and turned that into a juggernaut. And you

571
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<v Speaker 6>know at Oregon they had good teams. Joarning did a

572
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<v Speaker 6>great job. And then obviously, uh, you know what has

573
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<v Speaker 6>been done since uh has been tremendous and uh with

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<v Speaker 6>the new facility, you know, it's it's you know, Dana

575
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<v Speaker 6>is just fantastic there.

576
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<v Speaker 7>You know, it's it's been you know.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, Trent was it at Stanford and did a

578
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<v Speaker 6>great job, following Mike and Johnny Dawkins, I mean, and

579
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<v Speaker 6>then at SC you know, Tim Floyd, Uh, you know

580
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<v Speaker 6>had some really good teams when I was there during

581
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<v Speaker 6>you know, when we were at our our peak, at

582
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<v Speaker 6>our strongest with those three Final four teams. We had

583
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<v Speaker 6>some great battles with his teams and Kevin and Henry

584
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<v Speaker 6>Baby was there when I first started, so you know,

585
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<v Speaker 6>they had they had good programs. And then you know,

586
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<v Speaker 6>Herb did a great job at Arizona State and had

587
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<v Speaker 6>many good teams that I competed against with James Harden

588
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<v Speaker 6>and such, and.

589
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<v Speaker 8>You know, so it was really really a good league.

590
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<v Speaker 6>And then Utah and Colorado came in at the end

591
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<v Speaker 6>and both had good teams and both had you know,

592
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<v Speaker 6>great basketball programs.

593
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<v Speaker 3>You know, Arizona like kind of talks their family atmosphere.

594
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<v Speaker 3>They've got guys who kind of come back all the

595
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<v Speaker 3>time in the offseason. And same way with UCLA. Is

596
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<v Speaker 3>that kind of similar. We always hear about these pickup

597
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<v Speaker 3>games on Magic Johnson's playing some pickup game Paula with

598
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<v Speaker 3>with the UCLA guys.

599
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<v Speaker 6>Things like that with our players, but also the former players.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, any give him back. You know,

601
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<v Speaker 6>I was really blessed to coach.

602
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<v Speaker 8>So many good players during my tenure.

603
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<v Speaker 6>You know, Russell made the big gift for the back facility,

604
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<v Speaker 6>and he comes in and works out there all the time.

605
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<v Speaker 6>And in the offseason, Kevin's giving back a lot of

606
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<v Speaker 6>was giving back a bunch of money to u C.

607
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<v Speaker 6>L a and his you know, promoted mental health research

608
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<v Speaker 6>with funds. I mean, he has done great things. But

609
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<v Speaker 6>we had really good teams and great players and mess

610
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<v Speaker 6>you know, Drew Holliday and you think about Aaron Aflalo

611
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<v Speaker 6>and Darren Collison, Bob Moute. You know, we had you know,

612
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<v Speaker 6>over twenty pros during my tenure there that were really

613
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<v Speaker 6>really good players. So you know, and you know our

614
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<v Speaker 6>last year we had we actually wonted McHale my my

615
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<v Speaker 6>tenth year when we had the Wear Twins and Larry

616
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<v Speaker 6>Drew and Shabab Muhammad and Kyle Anderson and Norman Powell.

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<v Speaker 7>We had some guys. Yeah, and that's what it takes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no question. In fact, I remember when you went

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<v Speaker 2>to the three final fours. People here were telling me, uh,

620
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<v Speaker 2>there's no way, Arizon, who's going to match these guys.

621
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<v Speaker 2>Ben's got something going there. It's fantastic. They're not gonna

622
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<v Speaker 2>They're not gonna do the same stuff. And it was true.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys did very well. Uh how do you remember

624
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<v Speaker 2>or reflect back to those three great years?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, those were all special teams. You know, I mentioned

626
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<v Speaker 6>a bunch of the players. You know, Josh Shipp was on.

627
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<v Speaker 8>Those teams Jordan Farmar, you know Farmar.

628
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<v Speaker 6>Flalo Calls and ship we had said Bozeman was was

629
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<v Speaker 6>big in that first Final four team. Bob Mute, Alfred

630
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<v Speaker 6>Aboya and Lorenzo Motta were just tougher and heck and

631
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<v Speaker 6>really really good players. I mean we had guys and

632
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<v Speaker 6>you O eight we had you know, Kevin joined the

633
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<v Speaker 6>team and that was special because you know, we really

634
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<v Speaker 6>had a you know, I thought we had our best

635
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<v Speaker 6>chance in O eight to win it, and uh, you know,

636
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<v Speaker 6>we we ended up runn into a really good Memphis team,

637
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:16.839
<v Speaker 6>uh that you know, had a great player and a

638
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:20.279
<v Speaker 6>great coach at cal Party, but they had older guys

639
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:22.880
<v Speaker 6>that were really really good. It was a very physical

640
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.240
<v Speaker 6>game in San Antonio. They ended up losing to Kansas

641
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:29.720
<v Speaker 6>in the finals because they didn't foul when they had

642
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:31.680
<v Speaker 6>a chance to foul up three in the last five

643
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 6>seconds and and the Kansas hit a shot. But you know,

644
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:39.119
<v Speaker 6>I just loved those teams and how hard they played,

645
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:42.519
<v Speaker 6>how unselfish they were, and that was you know, kind

646
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:46.279
<v Speaker 6>of our mantras to you know, really defend and share

647
00:30:46.319 --> 00:30:50.559
<v Speaker 6>the ball, to do a good job of executing offensively

648
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:55.279
<v Speaker 6>when we didn't have anything in transition, and it was

649
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:58.480
<v Speaker 6>just a great group of young men. And uh, you

650
00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:00.519
<v Speaker 6>know back then there was a lot out of one

651
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.759
<v Speaker 6>and done, two and then we had Trevor Reza was

652
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.559
<v Speaker 6>one and done, Kevin was one and done, Drew Holliday

653
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 6>was one and done. Those are always difficult because you

654
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:15.960
<v Speaker 6>try and replace guys that are really good players, you know, quickly.

655
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 6>And you know, the league, though, was so good. I mean,

656
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:22.720
<v Speaker 6>I I go back to eight, there were I think

657
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.519
<v Speaker 6>in the ten teams. I think it was the ten

658
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 6>then it wasn't twelve yet.

659
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:29.680
<v Speaker 7>You know, you had.

660
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:31.920
<v Speaker 8>Fifty starters and I think I counted.

661
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:36.279
<v Speaker 6>Twenty one of them were NBA players, you know, Buttinger.

662
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:37.960
<v Speaker 7>Was down there.

663
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:40.359
<v Speaker 6>They had the really good six to ten Jan Hill,

664
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:43.680
<v Speaker 6>Jordan Hill, and they had a really good guard.

665
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:46.359
<v Speaker 2>That I mean.

666
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:48.799
<v Speaker 6>But but it was throughout the league, I mean it

667
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:53.519
<v Speaker 6>was everybody had guys. You know, James Harden was an SU.

668
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.480
<v Speaker 6>They had someone else made the low Paz Twins. They

669
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:00.519
<v Speaker 6>had another pro on that team too, that that end

670
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 6>that he's a GM now in the league. Uh, children

671
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 6>that that didn't play a lot for Stanford at the time.

672
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:13.000
<v Speaker 6>They kl had Ryan Anderson and I mean, it was

673
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.880
<v Speaker 6>just up and down the conference. You know, Washington had pros.

674
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:18.720
<v Speaker 7>They had the little guy.

675
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 6>That Isaiah Thomas, and then they had Brockman, they had

676
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.400
<v Speaker 6>a pondexter. I mean, Oregon had pros. You know, they

677
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:29.440
<v Speaker 6>had a really good guard.

678
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:33.039
<v Speaker 7>I mean it was just unbelievable amount of NBA players

679
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:35.079
<v Speaker 7>in the league, including.

680
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.319
<v Speaker 8>Usc sc I guess, TODs Gibson.

681
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:40.279
<v Speaker 7>And Oj Mayo. I mean it was just everywhere.

682
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:42.880
<v Speaker 6>It was like, it's so sad. You even look at

683
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.759
<v Speaker 6>football this year and how good the teams were that

684
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:51.039
<v Speaker 6>were from the former Pac twelve, including a s U.

685
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.200
<v Speaker 6>I was so happy for them and how they did

686
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:55.960
<v Speaker 6>and how and you look at Oregon, I mean they

687
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 6>were number one, undefeated all the way to the playoffs,

688
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:02.200
<v Speaker 6>and there's some great teams.

689
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:04.559
<v Speaker 7>It's just tough, you know.

690
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:09.200
<v Speaker 6>I see now, for example, you know the Washington Oregon

691
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 6>sc U c l A by traveling three thousand miles

692
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 6>to play the league games. You know mc cronin just

693
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:18.240
<v Speaker 6>got back and playing Maryland, sitting on the rope for

694
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:19.680
<v Speaker 6>three days and then playing Rutgers.

695
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:21.119
<v Speaker 7>That's a long way to go.

696
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I bet you. And I said I said

697
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:27.440
<v Speaker 2>this to you jokingly at the game a couple of

698
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:29.720
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, says, I bet you don't miss this stuff,

699
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:30.880
<v Speaker 2>But do you miss this?

700
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:34.400
<v Speaker 6>You know what I missed. I missed the practices. I

701
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:38.559
<v Speaker 6>missed the players. I missed the relationships with the coaches

702
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 6>and and the fans.

703
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:43.039
<v Speaker 7>I mean it was really, really.

704
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.680
<v Speaker 6>You know that's special, the other coaches in the league,

705
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:50.279
<v Speaker 6>the competition, and obviously the games. The games are great.

706
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:54.319
<v Speaker 8>I think it's so difficult now though, with this transfer portal.

707
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 7>Where you're allowed to move every year and you have.

708
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.880
<v Speaker 6>A lot of you know, people behind the scenes trying

709
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:03.359
<v Speaker 6>to move kids because you have people making money off

710
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:08.440
<v Speaker 6>their moves right getting a piece of their new deals.

711
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:10.840
<v Speaker 6>And I don't think it's good for players.

712
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:11.719
<v Speaker 7>I get it.

713
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 6>You know, you go somewhere and you want to transfer,

714
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:16.639
<v Speaker 6>leave without you know, having to sit out a year.

715
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:20.719
<v Speaker 6>But you can't doing it every single year. First of all,

716
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.119
<v Speaker 6>you know, hurts you academically.

717
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 8>And that still matters. There's still the same percentage.

718
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 6>Of people are going to be in the NBA as

719
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:31.639
<v Speaker 6>there were ten years ago, twenty years ago, and you

720
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.119
<v Speaker 6>don't have that you know, relationship, Like think about the

721
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.400
<v Speaker 6>Arizona guys that come back every year. They're not guys

722
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:40.480
<v Speaker 6>that were there for one year. They're guys, you know,

723
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:43.000
<v Speaker 6>we're there in Bucsan and you know, you had a

724
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:47.639
<v Speaker 6>real relationship and build relationships with people in the community,

725
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:53.440
<v Speaker 6>with you know, alums, with other former players, and it's

726
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:56.880
<v Speaker 6>really special in that way, and it helps them beyond basketball.

727
00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:57.559
<v Speaker 7>Basketball.

728
00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.800
<v Speaker 6>It is going to end for every player at some

729
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.599
<v Speaker 6>point point. You know, I have no problem with them

730
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:04.800
<v Speaker 6>or any money. There should be a salary cap. I mean,

731
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:08.199
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's just a wild West right now. There

732
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:11.480
<v Speaker 6>is no salary cap. And you know, if you're going

733
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:13.280
<v Speaker 6>to pay them, then you've got to run it more

734
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:17.000
<v Speaker 6>like they do in the NBA, where there's some fairness

735
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:20.760
<v Speaker 6>to it all and in terms of, you know what,

736
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:22.840
<v Speaker 6>what you're allowed to do, so it's not just a

737
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.880
<v Speaker 6>bidding war, which is right now what it is.

738
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:28.280
<v Speaker 5>You know, I was going to ask you about that.

739
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:33.400
<v Speaker 5>You have to deal with the navigating and the upcoming

740
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:35.159
<v Speaker 5>of the one and done during that era of the

741
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:38.199
<v Speaker 5>back ten and having guys you know leave after one

742
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:40.440
<v Speaker 5>year and everybody was kind of like, oh man, this

743
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.000
<v Speaker 5>isn't this isn't Fina scene players leave after one year.

744
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:46.920
<v Speaker 5>What are you hearing from Yeah, and I was going

745
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:49.480
<v Speaker 5>to ask you, what are you hearing from coaches that

746
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.639
<v Speaker 5>I have to deal with the transfer portal of today,

747
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.480
<v Speaker 5>because this is a whole entire different animal than it

748
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:56.159
<v Speaker 5>was ten to fifteen years ago.

749
00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:01.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and it really is minimized freshmen in recruitment of

750
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 6>freshmen because everybody wants to play old everybody, you know, honestly,

751
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:09.800
<v Speaker 6>there aren't that many guys that end up being one

752
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:13.119
<v Speaker 6>and done and being in the same system, you know,

753
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:15.920
<v Speaker 6>from one year to the next really helps a player

754
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:19.840
<v Speaker 6>and helps a program. Uh, you know, have stability and

755
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.559
<v Speaker 6>continuity is key. I mean you see it in the

756
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:26.880
<v Speaker 6>professional leagues, you know, and that's what they're all striving

757
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:29.599
<v Speaker 6>to be. They're all trying to get to the you know,

758
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 6>the promised land of being an NBA player. I get

759
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.800
<v Speaker 6>that we had over twenty my ten years, Usille at

760
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:38.519
<v Speaker 6>twenty four that you know, played in the NBA and

761
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 6>Loot had.

762
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:41.519
<v Speaker 8>You know, just a ton as did Sean.

763
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.559
<v Speaker 6>You know, that's great for the program and great for kids,

764
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:49.800
<v Speaker 6>but you know, you want to have I think they've

765
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:53.480
<v Speaker 6>got what were they had at originally, which was when

766
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:54.639
<v Speaker 6>they put in the transfer portal.

767
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:55.760
<v Speaker 7>You could leave after one year.

768
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 6>But the second time you pulled the transfer, you know,

769
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:02.639
<v Speaker 6>you were in the city, and I think that made sense,

770
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:08.599
<v Speaker 6>but you know the powers would be obviously disagree with that.

771
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:12.519
<v Speaker 6>So I think that's the toughest part of this whole

772
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 6>new new age right now, is that transfer portal and

773
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:20.079
<v Speaker 6>and and and then pulling on kids behind the scene

774
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:24.119
<v Speaker 6>to make moves for you know, uh, the wrong reasons.

775
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:26.400
<v Speaker 3>And during the season too. I mean, I think they

776
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:28.840
<v Speaker 3>were talking on the broadcast of the Arizona game the

777
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.800
<v Speaker 3>other night. They were saying, you guys are already already

778
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 3>planning for next year. They've already got their agents, you know,

779
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:35.639
<v Speaker 3>looking at their next deals.

780
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.519
<v Speaker 6>That's how do you focus on what you're doing?

781
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 8>I mean, you know, the most important thing.

782
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:43.239
<v Speaker 6>Is to live for today and try to get better.

783
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.440
<v Speaker 6>And a lot of players get a lot better fighting

784
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:47.239
<v Speaker 6>through adversity.

785
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:49.039
<v Speaker 8>If as soon as you see.

786
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 6>Adversity, if you just say I you know, quit and

787
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:55.519
<v Speaker 6>going to move somewhere else. Ultimately, that hasn't help that

788
00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:01.039
<v Speaker 6>kid in basketball or in life. Uh, you know, some adversion.

789
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:03.440
<v Speaker 6>We all have adversity that we've got to fight through

790
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:06.840
<v Speaker 6>and battle through. That makes us stronger, It makes us better.

791
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:11.199
<v Speaker 6>I think Luke would say the same exact thing.

792
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:12.920
<v Speaker 7>You were alive right now.

793
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.679
<v Speaker 2>No question, no question? Uh yeah, he'd be upset with it.

794
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:18.559
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you how's life now? I know you're

795
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.039
<v Speaker 2>you're in the cushy Santa Barbara area. Are you okay?

796
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Safe with the fires one? And would you ever come back?

797
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Or is golf life too good?

798
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 7>You know?

799
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:30.119
<v Speaker 6>I don't golf, Steve, but I love being in Janna Barbara.

800
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:33.719
<v Speaker 6>It's where I grew up. It is absolutely the most

801
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:39.400
<v Speaker 6>you know, beautiful community. And I feel very, very blessed

802
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:42.320
<v Speaker 6>my wife and I, you know, we were living in

803
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:46.320
<v Speaker 6>a lot of different places over my coaching career. You know,

804
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:49.760
<v Speaker 6>I'll be sixty eight in May. I'd like to, you know,

805
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.639
<v Speaker 6>stick around, watch my grandkids who are here in town

806
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:57.800
<v Speaker 6>growing up. We've got four grandsons, which is really fun.

807
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:02.440
<v Speaker 6>And I am coaching. I coached Coastlines Christian Academy sixth

808
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:05.559
<v Speaker 6>and seventh grade team, which my grandson was on this year,

809
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:07.119
<v Speaker 6>and that was a lot of fun.

810
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.159
<v Speaker 2>I bet, I bet, are you making up?

811
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:09.400
<v Speaker 7>You know?

812
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:11.559
<v Speaker 2>One of the things I read recently and I was

813
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:14.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna ask you this, Uh, in the today's world and

814
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the kids. They want to play fast. They got to move,

815
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's how they score. Blah blah blah, and

816
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:20.559
<v Speaker 2>money of your regrets was not doing that more often.

817
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:23.920
<v Speaker 6>Well, you know what, the last year I was there,

818
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:27.400
<v Speaker 6>we played really fast and led the league and scoring.

819
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.480
<v Speaker 6>If you'll remember with the you know, the Wears and

820
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:35.239
<v Speaker 6>with Kyle and with Larry Drew and Baz and it

821
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:38.079
<v Speaker 6>really helped us. But you know, we we played fast

822
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:38.440
<v Speaker 6>and we.

823
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:38.960
<v Speaker 7>Had the ball.

824
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:43.639
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I think we played really smart. And you know,

825
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:46.800
<v Speaker 6>I'm still you know when I look back right now,

826
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.119
<v Speaker 6>I don't know how many Pack ten teams have gone

827
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:51.599
<v Speaker 6>to the Final four since our three in a row.

828
00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:54.159
<v Speaker 6>I think Oregon went to one, La went to one,

829
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:58.679
<v Speaker 6>and I'm not sure there's been very few.

830
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the sad part of it. Are you by

831
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:02.639
<v Speaker 2>Arizona hasn't been back since two thousand and one?

832
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And what I'm telling you is, you know, the

833
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:10.280
<v Speaker 6>whole goal is to get there. And you know, at

834
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:12.360
<v Speaker 6>the end of the day, when you look like Yukon's

835
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:16.079
<v Speaker 6>last two years, they've been great offensively, but they win

836
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:20.039
<v Speaker 6>at the defensive end because of the toughness and the

837
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.679
<v Speaker 6>consistency and to be on the road. You know, that's

838
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:25.960
<v Speaker 6>where I thought Sean was really good. I mean, his

839
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:29.320
<v Speaker 6>teams are so sound defensively. That's why he won so

840
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:34.360
<v Speaker 6>many games. Is that's what's most consistent. You look at

841
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:35.599
<v Speaker 6>the NBA teams.

842
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:36.440
<v Speaker 7>And who wins.

843
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:38.840
<v Speaker 6>I mean, everybody's scoring a ton of points. But you

844
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:42.599
<v Speaker 6>get to those playoffs, you better be able to fit

845
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:45.480
<v Speaker 6>in the half court because the only rebound one guy

846
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.639
<v Speaker 6>on offense. Yeah, everybody's back.

847
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:48.519
<v Speaker 8>It turns.

848
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:50.760
<v Speaker 7>It's the whole point of defense.

849
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<v Speaker 6>Is to turn the offense your guarding into a half

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<v Speaker 6>court game where you have a better chance. And that's

851
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<v Speaker 6>what teams do, the highest echelon teams. That's not changing.

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<v Speaker 8>Defense wins where you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>NFL, you're talking about Major League Baseball, you're talking about

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<v Speaker 6>the NBA, you know, and yes, you have to score,

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<v Speaker 6>there's no question. And the change it's really changed just

856
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<v Speaker 6>a three point shot. I mean, you know, college Bacto

857
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:21.039
<v Speaker 6>still has a place for a low post player. There's

858
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<v Speaker 6>no such thing at the next level. Everybody wants to

859
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<v Speaker 6>be able to step out and shoot threes and open

860
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<v Speaker 6>the floor. And I get it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, my favorite.

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00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:32.159
<v Speaker 6>Player in the whole world and has been for the

863
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:36.440
<v Speaker 6>last years. Is watching the Joker Denver just how special

864
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:40.960
<v Speaker 6>he is. I mean, he is truly like today's epitome

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<v Speaker 6>of what a great player is.

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00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.679
<v Speaker 8>You know, to be third all time and triple.

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<v Speaker 6>Doubles at the five spot is mind bottling.

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<v Speaker 2>Coach, you got to go. Well, you appreciate your time. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's good to see you. You look great.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks, Steve. It's great to see you, and all the

871
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.800
<v Speaker 6>best all the Wildcats. They're playing really well right now.

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<v Speaker 6>Tommy has Tommy was a terrific higher and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he is really really good. I have no doubt that

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<v Speaker 6>he will get Arizona to a Final war and most

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<v Speaker 6>likely a national championship in time. And he's got to

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<v Speaker 6>stick with him because he really knows what he's doing

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<v Speaker 6>and he is an outstanding recruiter.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you just got the fan based crazy against fell

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<v Speaker 2>on the truth.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks.

881
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:28.239
<v Speaker 8>They're playing really well right now.

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<v Speaker 6>I watched their play Baylor the other night.

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00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:32.719
<v Speaker 7>Oh my god. They I mean they're playing and I

884
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<v Speaker 7>was at the TCU game.

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00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.360
<v Speaker 6>They're coming on and without their big guy who's still

886
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<v Speaker 6>out and hurt.

887
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, right, so I have no doubts.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Ben. Make sure guys Thank you, Ben Helen, but

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<v Speaker 2>we got to go. We're way over, so we'll come

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Rivera, He's got his Eye on the ball on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Why the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Fortune fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera in with me today.

962
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<v Speaker 2>Troy Hutcherson from Go Asy Cats, Dave Silver from his

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<v Speaker 2>Go cool, Go cool, and we got our guy here.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Gobe Bessie with the digits. That's good. That was

966
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun A good memory from him. Obviously,

967
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<v Speaker 2>it's funny because his his one of his last year's

968
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<v Speaker 2>was loose, not last year. It was Kevin O'Neill's year

969
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:35.599
<v Speaker 2>and I was doing some stories when we went to

970
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<v Speaker 2>LA and I said, Kevin, who's the best player on

971
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<v Speaker 2>that team? Who's the best guy? Says he didn't even

972
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<v Speaker 2>hesitate at Westbrook. And I'm thinking Westbrook because they had

973
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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Love, they had, you know, a few guys. He says, Oh, yeah,

974
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<v Speaker 2>the dude's good. It is really good. I'm thinking. Then

975
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<v Speaker 2>I went to Westbrook, I said, did you know or

976
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<v Speaker 2>did I want to tell you something? Kevin said that

977
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<v Speaker 2>he said, really, really he thinks that highly of me.

978
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then look what he turns into interesting too,

979
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<v Speaker 3>because I think if I remember correctly, well, there was

980
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:05.400
<v Speaker 3>a lot of run and gun in that era. Holland

981
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.800
<v Speaker 3>seems slow to down. He was, he slowed down. That's

982
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:09.559
<v Speaker 3>why you see you you see all games in the

983
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:11.679
<v Speaker 3>sixties and Arizona wanted to play in the eighties and nineties.

984
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<v Speaker 2>That's why I asked him. That's why I asked him.

985
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<v Speaker 2>In fact, in doing some stuff research for the show Today,

986
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<v Speaker 2>there was a USA Today story when he had gotten

987
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<v Speaker 2>let go by had go by UCLA that he regretted

988
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 2>going slower because he was pretty good in transition. Yeah,

989
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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I asked him.

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<v Speaker 3>The question if I remember, didn't Bill Walton kind of

991
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<v Speaker 3>get on his cast a little bit too on some

992
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<v Speaker 3>of the broadcasts. I can't, you know, I'm not enjoying

993
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<v Speaker 3>watching my alma mater play.

994
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<v Speaker 2>And no, he was that. He was the defense, he

995
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<v Speaker 2>was the shan he was shown before Sean.

996
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<v Speaker 5>Was showing without efficiency.

997
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

998
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:48.599
<v Speaker 5>I think his teams were so efficient offensively and they

999
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<v Speaker 5>could they could do this, they could do that, but

1000
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<v Speaker 5>they wanted to be in that and half court set

1001
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.800
<v Speaker 5>right right, and that's why you get to a final four.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny when he was listing off the coaches that

1003
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<v Speaker 2>he competed against, some thinking is he can mention Bill

1004
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<v Speaker 2>is issue, and then it wasn't Bill Frieder, it was

1005
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<v Speaker 2>Herba his Herbitt.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's just so many great coaches

1007
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.400
<v Speaker 5>of that era and once once they left, they couldn't

1008
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<v Speaker 5>replace them, and that's kind of when it started started

1009
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<v Speaker 5>falling apart. For the basketball side.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, there was some greaz mia Montgomery, especially

1011
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<v Speaker 2>especially with Loot and those matchups of those big games,

1012
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:21.400
<v Speaker 2>big games.

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00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:24.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, he's Holland's still coaching with john Wood and

1014
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:26.639
<v Speaker 3>looking over his shoulder in those years too, right. I

1015
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:29.360
<v Speaker 3>think he was still coming to the games. And that's

1016
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<v Speaker 3>not easy. I'm sure never was for the guys who

1017
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<v Speaker 3>dress him.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's sixty seven, he says, you canna be sixty eight.

1019
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<v Speaker 2>He's probably done. He's probably done, got a great career,

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<v Speaker 2>lives in a great place in Santa Barbara.

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<v Speaker 5>What it's not a bad career. Three final fours, three

1022
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<v Speaker 5>final force, I'd coached UCLA, made a lot of money, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I take it. Yeah, five and thirty three wins.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he had a lot more more than that too.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>H but he's been out, you know, he was out

1028
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<v Speaker 2>before after the u C l A. Well, and it's also,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna win a whole lot of a You're

1030
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<v Speaker 2>gonna you're gonna survive. And and you, like I said,

1031
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<v Speaker 2>come on, you go there to either get really lucky

1032
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<v Speaker 2>and win and get the heck out or you get fired.

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<v Speaker 5>And hearing them say he had coach Jamie Dixon on

1034
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<v Speaker 5>that stuff, I was like, wow, yeah, okay, I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>know he started there.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize. And you you were here in ninety

1037
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<v Speaker 2>four obviously, yeah, uh that uh, then it was that late.

1038
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was like earlier than that when he

1039
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<v Speaker 2>was there.

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<v Speaker 3>When he was there, yeah, yeah, I'm sure Arizona played them, yeah, series,

1041
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<v Speaker 3>I used to play them all the time every other

1042
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<v Speaker 3>year or whatever. He had the issue. So yeah, I

1043
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<v Speaker 3>mean he was there for five years. That's a pretty

1044
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<v Speaker 3>good run in NAU. A lot of the coaches like

1045
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:37.920
<v Speaker 3>asked Jack Murphy how long did he last?

1046
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<v Speaker 2>Right, And then he needed to get the heck out

1047
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<v Speaker 2>of Dodge because he was you know, yeah, he was

1048
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<v Speaker 2>next a tough, tough place to coach and have success

1049
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:48.079
<v Speaker 2>you win. It's like it's like I say with Colorado State,

1050
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<v Speaker 2>New Mexico State, if you win, he got out.

1051
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well he goes right from there to the Big East. Yeah,

1052
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Pitt's Pitt well there too. That's a good gig. That's

1053
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<v Speaker 3>a pretty big jump in your career.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. And you know, you look at all those all

1055
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<v Speaker 5>those guys that came through U. C.

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<v Speaker 7>L A.

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<v Speaker 5>And just the rivalry game, and what a tremendous job

1058
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:13.480
<v Speaker 5>that was and just a tremendous career in Mississippi State.

1059
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:16.480
<v Speaker 5>They're better in basketball now, but they were so bad

1060
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:18.079
<v Speaker 5>when he got there, and he got them kind of

1061
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:20.840
<v Speaker 5>in the right direction, even though it wasn't six. That's fall.

1062
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:22.719
<v Speaker 5>Then it was in the right direction, right.

1063
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<v Speaker 2>No, coach jans Now from ch he's the heck of

1064
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:27.920
<v Speaker 2>a coach. He had in trouble before he was at

1065
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:30.760
<v Speaker 2>New Mexico State, but now he's found away, he's found

1066
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:33.000
<v Speaker 2>a way. So okay, no cool, good to talk about

1067
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:35.800
<v Speaker 2>college basketball. He'll be back on the show probably before

1068
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:38.039
<v Speaker 2>the NCAA tournament to talk a lot. And he was

1069
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:42.519
<v Speaker 2>very uh no surprise, right, talking highly about Arizona. Of course,

1070
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:45.199
<v Speaker 2>of course you're on the show in t so well

1071
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<v Speaker 2>they suck, no, And he's right, he's been. They are

1072
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<v Speaker 2>playing well, the.

1073
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<v Speaker 3>Middle of a seven game winning streak, and what can

1074
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<v Speaker 3>you say?

1075
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, right, what do you what do you think before?

1076
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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm not gonna have both you guys on the

1077
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:58.320
<v Speaker 2>show tomorrow. Are they gonna do okay on the road

1078
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<v Speaker 2>next two?

1079
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:02.280
<v Speaker 5>I think they sweep the road trip.

1080
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Really, I think they sweep the road. Really.

1081
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:06.760
<v Speaker 5>That's gonna be tough. Another tough one, that is. I

1082
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:09.639
<v Speaker 5>think Texas stacks they're playing very well. I like how

1083
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:13.079
<v Speaker 5>Arizona's plane. I think the aggressiveness of Henry Vassar and

1084
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.840
<v Speaker 5>kJ Lewis off the bench, and how they're extending out

1085
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.079
<v Speaker 5>the defense is going to cause Texas Tack some trouble.

1086
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:21.679
<v Speaker 5>And then Oklahoma State they have a winning record. It's

1087
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:24.599
<v Speaker 5>a tough place to play. I don't think the talent's.

1088
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I agree with you. There, I agree with you.

1089
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:27.719
<v Speaker 5>So I think the hard one is going to be

1090
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:28.280
<v Speaker 5>Texas Tack.

1091
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Let me ask you, so we're halfway through. I

1092
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:33.679
<v Speaker 2>asked this of Tommy a couple of days ago. He

1093
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:37.519
<v Speaker 2>did not want to hypothesize or to speculate or whatever.

1094
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Uh I mean asking this question. But today today, as

1095
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:43.400
<v Speaker 2>we speak, who's the MVP so far.

1096
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:45.280
<v Speaker 3>For the team?

1097
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:48.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Can it be a tie?

1098
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:49.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

1099
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:53.559
<v Speaker 5>Co you go first, I'll go, Jaylen Browsing and empty Vasar.

1100
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I would think you say, yeah good, Ques

1101
00:51:56.880 --> 00:51:58.519
<v Speaker 2>kJ right behind them. Yeah yeah.

1102
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:02.679
<v Speaker 5>And I think Bradley, the biggest thing is you no

1103
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:04.559
<v Speaker 5>longer have to have Caleb Love have a big game

1104
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:08.000
<v Speaker 5>to win well and true, because everybody's picking it up

1105
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:10.760
<v Speaker 5>and you know, at those moments, throughout those whole entire

1106
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:17.639
<v Speaker 5>winning streak, Jayden's been offensively efficient five for seven, four.

1107
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:22.599
<v Speaker 2>For as he's running the offense. Yeah, yeah, David, you agree.

1108
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I agree.

1109
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:24.679
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say Jade and Bradley right off the top,

1110
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:29.440
<v Speaker 3>and Henry the last month, Yeah, yeah, has emerged.

1111
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Think about it, And I said this yesterday. I think

1112
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:34.360
<v Speaker 2>you're You're right on the guys. You're right on the guys.

1113
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:36.960
<v Speaker 2>But I still believe at some point, at some point,

1114
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.599
<v Speaker 2>maybe in the tournament, you need Caleb to have one

1115
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:42.119
<v Speaker 2>to light to go out fire.

1116
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:45.000
<v Speaker 5>Well. I think for Arizona to get from a Sweet

1117
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:48.559
<v Speaker 5>sixteen to that a lad eight final four level, that's

1118
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:50.159
<v Speaker 5>going to be the difference. I think you can get

1119
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:52.559
<v Speaker 5>to Sweet sixteen with what you got right now with

1120
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:54.559
<v Speaker 5>Caleb Love having terrible games.

1121
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:56.000
<v Speaker 2>And then play out of his mind.

1122
00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:57.480
<v Speaker 5>But then you need him to go off in the

1123
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:00.400
<v Speaker 5>lead eight and final four. Yeah, we'll get to that one.

1124
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:01.360
<v Speaker 5>We'll see what happened.

1125
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, They're gonna need him at some point because we

1126
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 2>know how good he can play, how dynamic he can be.

1127
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:11.000
<v Speaker 2>You just don't trust.

1128
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean they shot fifty eight percent for the game,

1129
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:15.960
<v Speaker 3>and he was three for ten. Yeah, I think so

1130
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:18.519
<v Speaker 3>the other guys, you know, Henry was nine for eleven.

1131
00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I think I think they're shooting over fifty three percent

1132
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:23.760
<v Speaker 2>in the seven game winning streaks, which you said fifty

1133
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:25.840
<v Speaker 2>eight percent. So they're shooting poaty being be fifty four

1134
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:29.920
<v Speaker 2>per fifty three this past game. Yeah, okay, so they're

1135
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:32.400
<v Speaker 2>shooting about the same and you shoot that, you're gonna

1136
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:34.719
<v Speaker 2>do okay. Yeah, but then again, and I hate to

1137
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the poop poo and I do it all the time. Right, guys, uh,

1138
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:38.599
<v Speaker 2>we got we we got to go already, We can

1139
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:40.719
<v Speaker 2>probably have to go already. Let's go take a break

1140
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:42.039
<v Speaker 2>and we'll talk more about it. We're not gonna have

1141
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 2>very much breaking news if we do lit all