WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:02.399 That's bank and enter it now. 2 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:12.279 Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this Friday afternoon in 3 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:14.519 the tri State. In about thirty minutes, Steve Raley will 4 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:16.640 be here to talk about the weather coming in. We 5 00:00:16.719 --> 00:00:19.559 might have seventy five mile per our wins, which is 6 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:22.239 almost hurricane forces later today. I'm going to keep you 7 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:24.839 informed about that, plus to fall out from Pete Rosenmore. 8 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:27.839 And of course, the Reds play the Battle of Ohio 9 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:31.359 with the Cleveland Guardians starting about six forty tonight, which 10 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:34.200 means first which means we begin the coverage of five 11 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:39.399 point forty. But until then, until then, we have Connie 12 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:42.759 Pillage joining us. There was a bombshell announcement yesterday in 13 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:44.920 front of the county commissioners who are changing the legal 14 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:47.719 team that's been representing in a sense him in the 15 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:51.399 county for about twenty five years or so. And Connie 16 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:54.840 Pillach Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Connie, 17 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:57.240 can you first tell the American people what your announcement 18 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.000 was yesterday and where did this things go from here? 19 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:03.039 Well, first of all, thanks for having me, Willie. 20 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:04.000 It's always a pleasure. 21 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:08.159 Yesterday I did make a recommendation to the County Commissioners 22 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:12.280 that we make a big change in our negotiating team 23 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:17.519 against the Bengals, and instead of retaining the guy who's 24 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:19.760 been there for I think it's twenty nine years now, 25 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:24.719 I wanted to move into a bold new direction because 26 00:01:24.760 --> 00:01:28.079 I think the county needs to step up and have 27 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:33.159 some good negotiating cards in their hands. So I recommended 28 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:38.799 that as as you know, i'm their lawyer as prosecutor, 29 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:41.319 I'm the lawyer of the Bank of the County commission. 30 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:47.359 But I recommended that we move into move Dinsmore, which 31 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:51.159 is a local law firm. It's been it's got deep 32 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:55.879 community roots. It was founded here in nineteen oh eight, 33 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:58.879 so for more than a century. It's well known for 34 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:03.799 its high level of professionalism and accountability, and it will 35 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:09.520 bring a fresh set of eyes and negotiating chops to 36 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:12.759 the legal team. So I recommended that the Bengals do that. 37 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:18.400 Pardon me, Gosh, William, I think it's tornadoes. 38 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:21.280 Are right, tornadoes, but it's it's the county. 39 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:23.639 It will help the county a lot to have a 40 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:28.680 very strong negotiating and legal team going forward with the Bengals. 41 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:32.039 Now, for those listening, prosecutors, in Ohio anyway, I don't know. 42 00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:34.280 I think the same thing with Kenton County. They have 43 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:38.639 criminal responsibility. You have criminal felony responsibility, and also you 44 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:41.879 have civil responsibilities, which mean you serve as the attorney 45 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:44.680 in this case, for the for the elected officials in 46 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:47.800 this case Hambliny County commissioners. Did you consult with them 47 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:51.000 before you made this decision as your client or not? 48 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:52.680 Oh? 49 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:57.280 Absolutely. First of all, it's the commissioner's decision. I make recommendations. 50 00:02:57.759 --> 00:02:59.879 But I started meeting with them. Of course, I have 51 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:05.159 to meet one on one too, so I could talk 52 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:08.840 about legal issues with them, and I started doing that 53 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:12.919 in early January, and I got to tell you, I 54 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:20.120 heard a lot of frustration from them about the negotiation 55 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:22.199 progress or lack thereof. 56 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:24.199 Against with the Bengals, I. 57 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:29.080 Heard a lot of concerns about communications issues, a lack 58 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:34.080 of clarity on what was happening, and lack of focus 59 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:36.919 on the desired results that the commission wanted to achieve. 60 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:42.080 And so after having some of these conversations, I started 61 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:46.400 to work with my team here in the office, because 62 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:48.120 you know, I have one hundred and twenty lawyers here. 63 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:51.000 I worked with my civil lawyers to try to figure 64 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:53.439 out what we could do to make this better so 65 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:57.120 that the commission would feel like they had some ability 66 00:03:57.199 --> 00:03:59.599 to try to get the best deal for the taxpayers. 67 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.319 As far as far as the new team, I've known 68 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.400 George Vincent for most of my life and he's one 69 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:07.360 of the partners there. And for those who may not know, 70 00:04:07.479 --> 00:04:10.639 he was a chairman of the Republican Party in Hamlety 71 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:11.759 County for many years. 72 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:13.840 But this is a nonpartisan matter. 73 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:17.519 So as far as the commissioners told you, they expressed 74 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:21.720 may use the term dissatisfaction of the direction the negotiations 75 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:24.279 we're going. And now we're about six weeks from the 76 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:27.040 conclusion and the Bengals have issued a press release that 77 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:30.800 I have in front of me from yesterday expressing dissatisfaction 78 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:34.959 with the other aspect of this is is engaging this 79 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:40.079 other firm in order to Inner Sports Circle? Shall I 80 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:43.839 say to remain the lead negotiator and explain the differential 81 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:47.800 between Dinsmore on one hand and Inner Circle Sports on 82 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.160 the other. What are the activities and functions of each 83 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:51.199 of them. 84 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:53.879 Well, yeah, I'm happy to do that, and I am 85 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:57.759 very happy that George Vinson is on this Dinsmore team. 86 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.560 He certainly got a lot of connections and a lot 87 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.079 of smarts were really excited to work. 88 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:05.560 With him and the other members of the team. 89 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:12.319 So Inner Circle Sports, actually I looked into the background. 90 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:17.720 The County did start discussions with them back in twenty 91 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:20.480 twenty two as they were starting to figure out how 92 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:24.639 they would approach the looming lease deadline, and in twenty 93 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:29.360 twenty three they did a little bit more refined discussions. 94 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:34.480 I signed the final contract with Inner Circle Sports in 95 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:37.759 January of this year, So for the Bengals to come 96 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:41.879 out and start complaining months later is a little disingenuous 97 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:46.000 to me. And they have no absolutely no business telling 98 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:48.759 us who we can have on our negotiating team. I 99 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:55.360 would never tell them who they can have on theirs. 100 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:55.480 And it's just not appropriate. Look. 101 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.519 Yeah, Well, one thing the Bengals have said in their 102 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:02.120 press release that this Inner Circle Sports, and by the 103 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:05.120 way each party selects their own lawyers, it'd be great 104 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:06.800 to have for you to pick the lawyers for the 105 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:07.959 Bengals or vice versa. 106 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:10.160 That's not the way it works. But the Bengals are 107 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:10.879 saying that the. 108 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:14.920 Inner Circle Sports group is connected to the Browns and 109 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:18.560 that somehow being connected to the Browns is wrong because 110 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:20.160 they'll be serving two masters. 111 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:22.120 How would you respond to that press release? 112 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:27.360 Well, I think the Bengals may have been misled into 113 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:32.360 with their their so called research. There was one member 114 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:36.000 of Inner Circle Sports that did do some work or 115 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:38.319 may continue to do some work with the Cleveland Browns, 116 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:42.600 but he left Inner Circle Sports, so there's there's no 117 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:46.199 conflict there. And the man that we're working with, David Abrams, 118 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:49.680 has not done any work with the Cleveland Browns. So 119 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:52.120 but I do appreciate the Bengals trying to look out 120 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:54.639 for the for us in their own way. 121 00:06:55.319 --> 00:07:00.279 But yeah, David Abrams has as I understand it. I 122 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:02.560 I read a pressure release that Abrons and this other 123 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:06.120 group also works for like two or three other NFL 124 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:09.920 cities enfranchises, and it tends to look as if the 125 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:12.959 goal is to have the Bengals pay at least fifty 126 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:15.680 percent of the freight, which might be up to eight 127 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:19.560 hundred and fifty million dollars. And by saying that we're 128 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:23.120 unhappy with who the county is picking to negotiate with us, 129 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:26.879 that seems to me saying we're going to extend the 130 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:30.839 least two years because this abrupt change six weeks before 131 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:35.199 the culmination of the lease is too close to become familiar. 132 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:37.480 Is this deployed by the Bengals. 133 00:07:37.480 --> 00:07:39.839 Do you think to stretch this out another two years 134 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.680 which keeps the county on the hook for these improvements 135 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:44.920 under the old lease. 136 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:50.800 Well, look, the county is absolutely intent on getting a deal. 137 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:56.399 We want a win win resolution, so everybody's happy. 138 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:58.319 And let's think about this. 139 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:03.000 These contracts when they're written, they've got hundreds of different terms. 140 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:05.560 It's like, what David Abrams'. 141 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:09.720 Skill is is that he's a nationally recognized expert in 142 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:16.639 negotiating with municipalities and cities as well as with the 143 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:19.800 NFL and other sports teams. That's why we chose to 144 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:24.279 bring him on three and a half months ago. So 145 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:28.319 it's not a new thing. But here's what the commission wants. 146 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:31.600 They really basically want three things. They want a long 147 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:36.240 term market rate lease. They want a diverse funding stack, 148 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:39.200 and that means contributions from the county and the state, 149 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:43.519 the team and the NFL. And three, they want more 150 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:49.120 community benefits, so basically community access. 151 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:48.600 To the stadium. 152 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:51.799 And frankly, let me tell you this, Willie Commissioner Alisha 153 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:54.399 Reze has been asking for that for a long time, 154 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:56.080 and she is not wrong. 155 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:59.200 Do you have a sense when I had on Denis's 156 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:05.840 Streehouse and they were saying, we're working together, it looks great. 157 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:08.440 About two weeks ago, we had a document that came 158 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:10.720 out that said, if we have a lease, the Bangal 159 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:12.440 was going to pay two thirds of one hundred and 160 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:14.480 eighty million, in the county was going to pay one third. 161 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:17.159 I had a sense doing this that the things are 162 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:18.840 in the right way, The other things were moving in 163 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:23.360 the right direction, and then this bombshell hit yesterday. Do 164 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:26.639 you have a sense that the negotiations at this point 165 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:29.360 are not in a good place to renew the lease 166 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:31.080 in six weeks? 167 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:32.480 I know I don't. 168 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:36.360 I think we're in an excellent place because by taking 169 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:41.519 this step forward, bringing in a Backerjack legal team, continuing 170 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:45.879 to use the lead negotiator that we've been using for 171 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:48.600 several months now to come up with that little memorandum 172 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:51.320 of understanding a couple of weeks ago. Look, I think 173 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:54.360 this just tells the Bengals and the county and the 174 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.279 taxpayers that we are very serious about getting a win 175 00:09:58.399 --> 00:09:59.279 win resolution. 176 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:03.279 You're saying you don't want the Bengals to pick your representatives. 177 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:06.240 You went the county negotiator. 178 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:07.080 We have one too. 179 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:07.879 Well. 180 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:10.960 They've done very well, by the way, Mike Brown can 181 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.559 take down the Irs and tax Court for God's sakes, 182 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:16.039 and so yes, I mean they're pretty good at this. 183 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:19.960 So at this point, Tom Gableman, I've met him a 184 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:20.600 couple of times. 185 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:23.200 Nice guy. What would you say about the representation of 186 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:23.879 Tom Gableman. 187 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:28.720 I really can't say much about it other than from 188 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:33.480 my conversations with my clients at the County Commission. They 189 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.159 were ready for a change. And sometimes of change is 190 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:40.440 like a holiday and it's just a breath of fresh air. 191 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:44.279 You get a lot of new energy and excitement. Mister 192 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:47.600 Gableman did pledge to make sure the transition was smooth 193 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:50.240 and complete, and I appreciate. 194 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:50.200 Him for that. 195 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:53.399 What wasn't he paid like twenty six million dollars or 196 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:57.159 some amount of money about a million? Explain the financial 197 00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:58.919 resources given to Tom Gableman. 198 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:02.759 I did get a print out from the county yesterday 199 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:05.759 that just had It was very vague, but it did 200 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:08.279 have a summary of what he'd been paid each year, 201 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:11.120 and it did total twenty six million for. 202 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:14.559 The last twenty nine years. So I think he made 203 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:14.919 a lot of. 204 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:18.480 Money off the taxpayers and it's time to change change 205 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:20.200 our our arrangement. 206 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:22.360 And you know, Tom's not happy about this. I haven't 207 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:24.279 spoken to him, but I imagine he's not pleased with 208 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:26.559 this decision of the county commissioners. 209 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:31.679 I got the impression that he's not. I met him 210 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:34.480 for the first time yesterday. He was waiting for me 211 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:39.919 in the lobby of the County Administration building. But look, 212 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.360 I've called him multiple times before I took office, and 213 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:46.840 he never called back, never tried, never sent an email. 214 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:48.120 As far as I can tell. 215 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:51.000 Was that a frigid meeting in the lobby outside after 216 00:11:51.039 --> 00:11:51.720 he was fired? 217 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:52.960 Was that somewhat frigid? 218 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.720 No, I met him before, well, I met him before 219 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:58.879 the meeting, but we had given him a heads up 220 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.039 phone call that this was going on. 221 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:01.720 All right. 222 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:04.600 So at this point as we sit here this Friday afternoon, 223 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:08.159 at this point, there's a new negotiating team that is 224 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:11.480 a George Vincent Dinsmore and you hired a couple months ago. 225 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:15.600 This other group, Inner Circle Sports, that have negotiated six 226 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:19.559 other deals in which the NFL slashed the team paid 227 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:22.639 about fifty percent of the whole deal, and you look 228 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:25.519 forward to a deal being completed, hopefully in six weeks. 229 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:28.320 But if it's extended by two years by the Bengals, 230 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:30.639 which is they're right, that wouldn't surprise you. 231 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:33.080 It'd be fine. 232 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:36.559 I know these things take time, and certainly they're stinging 233 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:37.360 for some reason. 234 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:39.080 I'm not really sure why. 235 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:42.639 We're just changing our legal team, and we have every 236 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:45.840 right to do that. But again, I know the county 237 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:50.320 is one percent in favor of getting a deal at 238 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:52.600 the earliest opportunity. 239 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:55.399 In county pillage. That Bengals do not pick your representatives. 240 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:57.559 That's exactly right, Willie. 241 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:02.080 Now, lastly, since this other issue up this is about 242 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:05.639 the killing of Ryan Hinton, this is completely unrelated. Put 243 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:08.879 on your county criminal hat instead of your civil hat. 244 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:12.240 The county corner. Last me, some Marco was going to 245 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:14.159 hold a news conference today. We were going to cover 246 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:17.679 about I guess the results of the autopsy. I would 247 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:20.919 think of Ryan Hinton and maybe Larry Henderson. I'm not 248 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.320 sure that the dead police officer and you issued a 249 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:27.200 grand jury subpoena. Can you explain what's happening in that case? 250 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:32.639 Well, as is typical in cases like this when they're 251 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:36.360 the case coming up, the grand jury will subpoena all 252 00:13:36.440 --> 00:13:40.960 kinds of things. A subpoena the surveillance video in the area, 253 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:43.960 a subpoena the black box from the car, the so 254 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:47.559 called black box from the vehicle. They'll subpoena born cam, 255 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:52.600 and they'll subpoena the results of toxicology and autoxies. This 256 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.600 is pretty basic stuff going forward. And I know that 257 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:01.440 the community is hoping that we do very thorough and 258 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:04.360 accountable job on this case. 259 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:06.440 And you told me a month or two ago on 260 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:09.039 another police shooting, that it's up to the county prosecutor 261 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.559 or criminally to submit or not to submit to the 262 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:14.960 grand jury all the evidence. In order to submit it 263 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:18.039 to the grand jury, you must believe that there's a 264 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:23.080 viable case here of maybe police misconduct or not. This 265 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:25.360 is a very high profile case. It was one of 266 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:28.320 the stories national news. Are you going to make a 267 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:32.039 decision before you give it to the grand jury whether 268 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:35.399 to indict or not the police officer involved, SINCINNTI Police 269 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:38.360 or if the evidence comes out a certain way, may 270 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:39.840 you not submit the case at all? 271 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:40.960 Of the grand jury. 272 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:45.000 It's just too early to say. I haven't seen enough 273 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:49.240 information yet. And I know people are eager. We always 274 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:53.600 want everything immediately, especially in twenty twenty five. But sometimes 275 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:56.879 you got to let the police department do their job. 276 00:14:57.120 --> 00:14:59.159 And do their investigations. 277 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:03.120 And as you know that there'll be a homicide investigation, 278 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:08.919 and they also have their oh, their internal investigations, and 279 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:12.480 the citizens investigation. There will be three investigations going on 280 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:14.600 at any given time. I got to let them do 281 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:16.120 their job before I make a decision. 282 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:19.360 Have you seen any information to date that the Cincinnati 283 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:21.960 police officer should be criminally charged with anything? 284 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:24.799 No, I have not yet. 285 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:28.480 All right, Connie Pillage, thank you very much, and this 286 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:31.080 is interesting. We hope the Bengals lease works out. I 287 00:15:31.080 --> 00:15:34.080 hope that Joe Burrow leads the team to the super Bowl. 288 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:36.879 I hope there's a long term lease. I hope the money, 289 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:39.519 diverse funding mechanisms, community benefits. 290 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.240 I want it all there, we all do. 291 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:43.879 And I know Denise Treehouse has said to me she's 292 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:46.200 not going to submit it to the taxpayers ahead of time, 293 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:48.679 but she doesn't have to, and so we hope this 294 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:51.320 deal works out. And once again, Connie Pillage, thanks for 295 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:54.559 coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Connie, my pleasure, 296 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:56.919 God God bless you. Let's continue with more. There you 297 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:59.759 have it. 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You deserve better. Call Plumb Tight 332 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:37.720 Plumbing today. Dave Riley's coming. 333 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:39.839 But for first of all, the Reds have changed the 334 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:43.559 start of tonight tonight's game from six to five to ten. 335 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:46.920 Is the first pitches at five ten. Our coverage starts 336 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:48.359 at four to ten. So if you're coming to the 337 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:52.400 Battle of Ohio tonight, first pitches at five ten, and 338 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:54.799 uh we begin coverage at four to ten? Is that 339 00:17:54.880 --> 00:17:56.440 correct to Davis? Is that the right? 340 00:17:57.319 --> 00:17:57.640 All right? 341 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:01.799 So once again, first pitch five ten. Coverage starts at 342 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:04.440 four to ten. Steve Raley, Welcome once again to the 343 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:07.319 Bill Cunningham Show. So you're causing the Reds to change 344 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:09.839 five aout an hour and a half the first pitch tonight. 345 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:11.839 How you're responsible for this? 346 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:12.119 Though? 347 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:14.799 Tell the American people, is Zach Brown's gonna go nuts 348 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:18.000 at TQL Battle of Ohio? Change the start of the 349 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:20.319 game tonight. Give us a full report on the weather. 350 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:24.720 Well, my good friend Mother Nature once again letting us down. 351 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.640 That's really the bottom line. It does look like that 352 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:31.200 around the five six o'clock hour we could start to 353 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:34.039 see some showers and storms in the area. I think 354 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:37.079 it'll be closer to maybe eight o'clock when we see 355 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:40.400 it around the metro. Regardless, we're going to see some 356 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:44.319 pretty powerful storms tonight. We are in a moderate risk 357 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:47.880 that is category four out of five, and it's about 358 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:50.640 as high as you can go. We rarely see a 359 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:54.119 five out of five. So you get the significance of 360 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:57.400 what the Storm Prediction Center thinks about our chances about 361 00:18:57.400 --> 00:18:58.359 severe weather tonight. 362 00:18:58.599 --> 00:19:00.839 So as far as moving the start tonight's game with 363 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:03.240 the Cleveland Guardians, that's a good idea. 364 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:07.720 Yeah, no, no question, about it. The earlier they can start, 365 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:11.279 the better. My guess is they're doing this so that 366 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:13.319 you know, you're looking at about what a three hour 367 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:16.039 game or something along those lines. You might just be 368 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:19.359 able to sneak it in downtown. So the problem is 369 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.279 is there's still going to be thunderstorms around and lightning. 370 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:26.319 And the difficulty with a moderate risk Bill is the 371 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:30.400 fact that everything is elevated, meaning, yeah, sure we're going 372 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:33.240 to see some severe storms, but instead of these sixty 373 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:37.200 mile an hour gus, we could likely see seventy seventy. 374 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:39.440 Five mile an hour gus. God forbid. 375 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:42.720 But if we see a tornado, there's a higher chance 376 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:45.720 in some parts of the Try State, which is pretty 377 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:49.440 much everybody, of seeing a stronger tornado instead of the 378 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:52.920 ef zeros or ones. We're talking about the possibility of 379 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.920 seeing any two or greater, right, So it's a real yeah. 380 00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:59.240 And right now there's nothing on the radar. I'm looking 381 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:04.000 at Channel nine. There's little or nothing on the radar. Correct, Yeah, 382 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:04.559 that's right. 383 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:07.240 It's going to develop as we go through the day. 384 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:10.279 As soon as we start to see some of this 385 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:13.559 cloud cover in some areas break, and that'll be shortly, 386 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:16.599 we'll start to see the temperatures rise quickly, and it's 387 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:20.079 going to set the stage for a cold front later tonight. 388 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:23.079 What happens is is that cold front, the cold air 389 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:27.599 undercuts the warm air and shoves it like northward in 390 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:30.279 other words, or into the atmosphere, and that's what will 391 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:33.559 create these strong storms. In the last couple of days, 392 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:36.559 we had something called a cap on the atmosphere. It's 393 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:40.920 a warm layer sitting at about five seven thousand feet 394 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:43.319 and it stops thunderstorms from happening. 395 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:45.240 We don't have that today, So. 396 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:48.200 As a result, when that cold front comes in, thunderstorms 397 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:49.240 are going to pop quickly. 398 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:52.079 And as far as a seventy five mob prior win, 399 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:54.480 isn't that like a category one hurricane? 400 00:20:56.079 --> 00:20:57.839 Well not really. 401 00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:01.680