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Speaker 1: Fifty five KRC, the talk station at six. Here at
Speaker 1: fifty five KRC, the talk station. Brian Thomas swishing a
Speaker 1: happy Thursday slash Friday Eve and welcoming to the fifty
Speaker 1: five KRC morning show. Candidate for Hamilton County Court of
Speaker 1: Appeals Stacy left In. Stacey. It's a real pleasure to
Speaker 1: have you on the morning show today.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1: And I'll be on the radio. Oh it's my pleasure.
Speaker 1: It'll be all. You can find her online lefton l
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Speaker 1: over to Facebook and just type in Stacey lefton for judge.
Speaker 1: You'll find her Facebook page. Stacy. I know I can't
Speaker 1: ask you for advisory opinions, so I know that's what
Speaker 1: everybody wants from a judicial candidate. But congratulations on the
Speaker 1: endorsement from the Hamilton Kunta Republican Party. We just need
Speaker 1: to get the Hamilton kind of Republican Party to update
Speaker 1: their judicial page to include your name because it's not
Speaker 1: there yet.
Speaker 2: That's there. You go.
Speaker 1: See, I'm doing that for you because I just went
Speaker 1: there because I want to refer my listeners. The judicial
Speaker 1: races are so dang important, and you know, as well
Speaker 1: as so many people. If you're not involved in the
Speaker 1: judicial system, if you're not practicing law, if you're not
Speaker 1: actively in front of judges because of that, you know,
Speaker 1: criminal activity or civil activity, you know, the judicial races
Speaker 1: tend to be a bit of a mystery for listeners.
Speaker 1: Tell them what they need to keep in mind when
Speaker 1: they're considering judicial candidates. Stacy Well, I will tell you.
Speaker 2: I'm a prosecutor. I work at the Hampton Prosecutor's Office
Speaker 2: and I've been working there almost twenty years, and I
Speaker 2: do I'm in the selling division doing criminal cases, and
Speaker 2: I always have victims we come into court, they're not
Speaker 2: getting the sentences they want. You know, someone one of
Speaker 2: their loved ones has been killed or hurt or themselves.
Speaker 2: And we go to trial or there's a plea of
Speaker 2: some sort and the judge goes ahead and sentence them.
Speaker 2: And they sentence them either you know, like they they
Speaker 2: get probation when they shouldn't get probation, or like a
Speaker 2: really light sentence. And I always say to them, look,
Speaker 2: I don't know how you vote. I don't really care,
Speaker 2: it's none of my business. But when you go into
Speaker 2: the voting booth, you need to vote like you're a victim.
Speaker 2: You need to vote for judges that care about the community,
Speaker 2: care about victims, and are going to do the right thing.
Speaker 2: And the reason why I personally decided to run is
Speaker 2: last year in October, I started this six week long
Speaker 2: jury trial involving these people named John and Kate Snyder,
Speaker 2: and they were from Springfield Township. They had adopted a
Speaker 2: total of six children from China, and the first child
Speaker 2: they adopted had died of natural causes. And then they
Speaker 2: went back and got two more, and then an additional
Speaker 2: time I got three more. The last three they got
Speaker 2: were three boys. All of those kids they mistreated, malnourished,
Speaker 2: and one of them they killed. So we were on
Speaker 2: a long trial. It was terrible, terrible, heartbreaking, and you know,
Speaker 2: it was six weeks long. We got a late verdict
Speaker 2: on a Friday night, and me and my other prosecutors
Speaker 2: that worked with me, we went back to our office
Speaker 2: and we zoomed in because two of the children that
Speaker 2: were lucky enough to survive the torture that they received
Speaker 2: at the hands of these people. Testified in our trial,
Speaker 2: and they were terrified. You know, they were in these
Speaker 2: orphanages in China and they come here to our country,
Speaker 2: which is supposed to be a lot better, and they
Speaker 2: were much unter off in the orphanage, is to be
Speaker 2: quite honest with you, than they were in the home
Speaker 2: of these people.
Speaker 1: Oh. You know, that seems like a total, a total
Speaker 1: failure in the system that the Child Protective Services or
Speaker 1: whoever placed these children in the hands of these criminals.
Speaker 1: Obviously that fell through the cracks. I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sort of inside looking from struggling for answers
Speaker 1: about how this terrible situation could either ever have come about.
Speaker 2: Well, actually they just went to adopt them from China.
Speaker 2: There was that didn't get involved until after this happened,
Speaker 2: when the child when they killed the one child, Children's possible,
Speaker 2: like Children's possible, they got involved with the children another custody,
Speaker 2: and honestly, JFS in this particular instance did a great
Speaker 2: job in helping these kids get through a good home. Okay,
Speaker 2: but so we went back, we told these kids, you're safe.
Speaker 2: Now you're never going to have to be with these people.
Speaker 2: They won't be able to hurt you anymore because they
Speaker 2: used to do things like if they all had like
Speaker 2: medical issues, so they didn't do things like how just
Speaker 2: a child that didn't have any problems would handle things,
Speaker 2: and so sometimes they would soil themselves and they would
Speaker 2: like rub pieces on them and stuff like that was
Speaker 2: just terrible. So to be able to tell these children, hey,
Speaker 2: you're safe. Now you're never gonna have to worry was
Speaker 2: like such a big reward for all of us. We
Speaker 2: were like, finally, you know, you did something great. But
Speaker 2: then we start thinking and we're like, okay, now this
Speaker 2: case has to get the Court of Appeals. And in
Speaker 2: the past year, prior to this case going to trial,
Speaker 2: there was a case some of my coworkers took to
Speaker 2: trial and judges from our Court of Appeals reverse not
Speaker 2: because something was done wrong and not because you know,
Speaker 2: in evidence that was introduced that shouldn't be introduced. They
Speaker 2: just decided that the twelve people that were sitting in
Speaker 2: the jury box made the wrong decision. And that's not
Speaker 2: how our system was, you know, constructed. We are constructed
Speaker 2: with the story system that we can get twelve citizens,
Speaker 2: twelve peers of the community of the defendant to come
Speaker 2: and sit in and listen to their case and make
Speaker 2: a decision. That's how our system is run. And it's
Speaker 2: a great system. And we have all these like activist
Speaker 2: judges all of a sudden that want to go against
Speaker 2: the system or want to change the system, and there's
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, and in so doing they kick one
Speaker 1: of the primary legs out from under the judicial system,
Speaker 1: the purpose of it, which is deterrence. I mean, of course,
Speaker 1: the families of the victims want to see, you know,
Speaker 1: that there's a they get some satisfaction over a punishment.
Speaker 1: But in the final analysis, the word needs to get
Speaker 1: out among the general public that if you commit these
Speaker 1: horrific acts, you will be spending a lot of time
Speaker 1: in jail, which is a terrible place to be. It's
Speaker 1: a deterrence effect. And they liberals have kicked that leg
Speaker 1: right from out from under the justice system, and word
Speaker 1: has gotten out that no, you won't be held accountable.
Speaker 1: Even if they do, they're just going to slap your wrist.
Speaker 1: So go ahead and knock yourself out.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, I mean routinely we have cases where people
Speaker 2: like pick up charges in there let out and additional
Speaker 2: charges are brought, like are picked up like about a
Speaker 2: year and a half ago. I had a from maybe
Speaker 2: just two years ago, I had a burglary case and
Speaker 2: I hadn't I was the room prosecutor. So the way
Speaker 2: our system is, you may not have that case from
Speaker 2: the beginning, and then you rotate into the room and
Speaker 2: you pick it up because you're the new prosecutor in
Speaker 2: the room. So this ban had like three or four
Speaker 2: burglaries and then he picked up another one, and I
Speaker 2: was like, how could this be? Like how how could
Speaker 2: you pick up another burglaries? And he locked up and
Speaker 2: the UH arresting auficor was like, well, the judge let
Speaker 2: him out, so that's why. And so then I go
Speaker 2: back and I say to the judge, I'm like, why
Speaker 2: would you let this person out? They already have like
Speaker 2: three burglaries pending, and you let him out so they
Speaker 2: could pick up a four. And his response to me
Speaker 2: was like, well, he had the GPS on, so at
Speaker 2: least we know he was there. Well that's not comforting.
Speaker 2: There's like an extra victim. Yeah, that was a response.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's one extra victim I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: had if you would have just detained him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, charges interject my personal thoughts on the matter. But
Speaker 1: last time I checked, and you're a judge. You know
Speaker 1: we have the Castle doctor and in the state of Ohio,
Speaker 1: don't we Stacy left him. Yeah, yeah, yes, so maybe.
Speaker 2: The I'm not a judge yet, No, no, I apologize.
Speaker 1: I was just getting ready to correct myself. But as
Speaker 1: a prosecute, you do know the law, you know, and
Speaker 1: maybe number five break and that's when a homeowner will
Speaker 1: shoot the person, right, a deterrence effect when word gets
Speaker 1: out that a lot of people are armed in the
Speaker 1: home and if you break into a home, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get shot, and they're going to be justified and getting shot.
Speaker 1: Maybe people will go at breaking into homes. But in
Speaker 1: the meantime we have to deal with these leftist judges
Speaker 1: who do not understand the purpose of the judicial system.
Speaker 1: And of course you illustrate the importance of having that
Speaker 1: mindset and that tough on crime attitude on the Appella bench,
Speaker 1: because obviously leftist justice are judges. I don't understand how
Speaker 1: you can overturn twelve people's conclusion of guilt beyond a
Speaker 1: reasonable doubt. As a prosecutor, that is a hell of
Speaker 1: a high bar to meet.
Speaker 2: It is it's very hard, and we even, you know,
Speaker 2: because the change in our community here, we do have
Speaker 2: a hard time sometimes getting good verdicts. So when you
Speaker 2: do get one and then it goes they go up
Speaker 2: to the Court of Appeals and they reverse it just
Speaker 2: because they decided twelve people didn't make the right decision.
Speaker 2: And I will point out that the Court of Appeals,
Speaker 2: those judges, they didn't get to hear the witnesses, right,
Speaker 2: They didn't get to see the evidence. They didn't get
Speaker 2: like in this particular instance, they did a jury view,
Speaker 2: so they didn't get to go to the view of
Speaker 2: the scene and see what the jury saw. They didn't
Speaker 2: get to see them testify live and in person. It's
Speaker 2: like a one dimensional transcript that they have, which doesn't
Speaker 2: always like you know, you don't get everything from a
Speaker 2: one dimensional transcript as you do from people's body language
Speaker 2: and their tone and those kind of things that the
Speaker 2: twelve people that made the decision had to make their
Speaker 2: decision exactly. So it's super, super frustrating as a prosecutor
Speaker 2: and as a member of this community. You see what's
Speaker 2: going on, and I, like, I would always tell my victims, like,
Speaker 2: you need to vote like you're a victim. Don't vote
Speaker 2: like you know you're going to get locked up. Vote
Speaker 2: like you're a victim. And you know you keep saying
Speaker 2: this to people and unless you're willing to like go
Speaker 2: out there and fight and put your name out there
Speaker 2: and take a chance and try and help change things,
Speaker 2: which I really have a right to tell other people
Speaker 2: what to do. That's why I decided to run.
Speaker 1: Well, good for you to end speaking with Stacy lefton
Speaker 1: find our aligne at lefton for Judge dot com or
Speaker 1: on Facebook with Stacy lefton for Judge, you can find
Speaker 1: it where she is on the issues. And I failed
Speaker 1: to mention. I obviously immediately gravitated towards the Hamlin kind
Speaker 1: of Republican Party's endorsement of you because it's important, but
Speaker 1: also because they need to update their page to include
Speaker 1: you so we all know who the right judges are
Speaker 1: to vote for. But you've got the endorsement League, Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Fraternal Order Police, Ken Kober and Queen City Lodge sixty nine.
Speaker 2: That was very important to me. I am very active
Speaker 2: in the community. I am and with law enforcement. I
Speaker 2: am my Mayor's Court prosecutor in my neighborhood and I
Speaker 2: work closely with the police. I live in Amberley Village.
Speaker 2: Several times we've had police levies and I've been very
Speaker 2: active in promoting our police in our neighborhood. And I
Speaker 2: know how important they are, and I know what a
Speaker 2: great police force we have here in Amberley Village, and
Speaker 2: you know, everyone deserves to have that. And I know
Speaker 2: the City of Cincinnati police are awesome to and I
Speaker 2: always feel like I work as a team with them
Speaker 2: on my cases, and I felt like for me, it
Speaker 2: was important for me to have my team back me.
Speaker 2: And knowing that the FOP, who I consider part of
Speaker 2: my team, backing me is very important and I am
Speaker 2: honored to have their endorsement.
Speaker 1: Well, let's face it, they're doing the laboring or of
Speaker 1: evidence gathering, and you know they hope to bring people
Speaker 1: to justice. They're the ones that out there that the
Speaker 1: witnessed the crime or otherwise have to clean up the
Speaker 1: mess following a crime. So it's important that you work
Speaker 1: with them as a prosecutor. And I'm glad to hear
Speaker 1: that you have such a great relationship, and of course
Speaker 1: that relationship will continue when my listeners and the rest
Speaker 1: of the citizens of Hamilton County vote you onto the
Speaker 1: First District Court of Appeals. Stacy, it has been a
Speaker 1: pleasure having on the program. Stacy Lufton. Get in touch
Speaker 1: with the campaign, help her out, put a sign in
Speaker 1: the front yard, tell your friends, and if you want
Speaker 1: the full list Hamilton Kinderrepublican Party dot org, it will
Speaker 1: be updated to includer. But all the rest of the
Speaker 1: great judges are there, including Judge Winkler, Alan dink Locker,
Speaker 1: Melville marsh who I love, she's so sweet, Megan Shanahan,
Speaker 1: and Robert Gerring. Right there, domestic relations you got Ted Winkler.
Speaker 1: You have Amy Searcy and Betsy Sunderman and Probate Division
Speaker 1: Ted Winkler, and a bunch of municipal court judges as well.
Speaker 1: So I'll add that link or I have Joe add
Speaker 1: that link to fifty five carsity dot com. Stacey left
Speaker 1: it and it's been a real pleasure having you on
Speaker 1: the program. I'm sure we'll get to talk between now
Speaker 1: and the election, and I'll encourage my listeners to check
Speaker 1: out your information and get to vote. Your directions so
Speaker 1: we're tough on crime. Thank you so much, my pleasure, Stacy,
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