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<v Speaker 1>It's time for tech talk. The machines are getting smarter.

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<v Speaker 2>This is tech Talk brought to you by Skynett.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Saltzman is our friend to help translate technology into

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<v Speaker 1>standard English for all of us. And there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot that was made about deep Seek, this new AI

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<v Speaker 1>product out of China. I mean, we haven't had a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to talk about it. What's your take on what

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<v Speaker 1>deep seek is and what it means to other AI

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<v Speaker 1>development around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's very similar to chat Epte or Google

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<v Speaker 2>Gemini in that it is a conversational AI bot. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a generative AI or jen AI, so you can talk

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<v Speaker 2>with it mostly by typing, not verbally. But the idea

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<v Speaker 2>is the same that you can ask it to create

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<v Speaker 2>content for you, help with math and coding, you can

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<v Speaker 2>language conversion, you can ask for travel summaries, recipes. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a smarter smart lie like a digital assistant.

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<v Speaker 2>It's similar, though very similar to what we're many of

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<v Speaker 2>the I'm sure your listeners are used to personally or professionally.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, this when this debuted, or at least the

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<v Speaker 2>news broke on Monday about deep Sea Gotta China. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it took a real toll on US tech stocks,

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<v Speaker 2>especially some of the AI ones, and Nvidia lost almost

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<v Speaker 2>what six hundred billion billion with a breed rather crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a lot. I've played around with this large

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<v Speaker 2>language model. It's a free app for iPhone and Android.

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<v Speaker 2>It to me is very similar I hear where it

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<v Speaker 2>differs is in the pricing structure for enterprise because as

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<v Speaker 2>a regular consumer it's totally free to use, just as Chat,

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<v Speaker 2>gibt or Google, Gemini is or co Pilot all these

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<v Speaker 2>other ones. But yeah, I mean as a business, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking at a fraction of the cost to use it,

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<v Speaker 2>it may be tempting. But know that any Chinese company,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've talked about this on tech Talk Thursdays many

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<v Speaker 2>times they have to hand over data to the government,

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<v Speaker 2>to the Chinese government upon request not to mention. Just

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<v Speaker 2>this week maybe not so coincidentally, there was a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of breaches that were unveiled, tied to deep seek, where

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<v Speaker 2>the things that you would type in like I recently wrote,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I've got three days in Barcelona on a

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<v Speaker 2>limited budget. What should I do? Your stuff could be

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<v Speaker 2>out there like there was a breach where there was

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of million conversations exposed. You know, so there's

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of security slash privacy concerns tied to deep Seek,

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<v Speaker 2>but from a performance standpoint, it's very similar. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see any advantage over chant Gypt. It hasn't stumped me.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently you won't answer sensitive political questions like TMN square

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<v Speaker 2>and things that you know, the Chinese government does not

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<v Speaker 2>want you to know. So look, you know, like anything,

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<v Speaker 2>use it very cautiously, especially when it's not a homegrown product.

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<v Speaker 2>But even if it was, you never know what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen to your data, So don't reveal your company's secrets.

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<v Speaker 2>Y you know that happened to somebody. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was Samsung last year, Gary, all kidding aside, I think

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<v Speaker 2>when chat gipt was pretty fresh, somebody was asking questions

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<v Speaker 2>about a service that was still under NDA or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and it shared it inadvertently with other users of Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was chatgpt. So yeah, so just be

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<v Speaker 2>careful that you don't want to, you know, unknowingly share

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<v Speaker 2>personal or corporate sensitive corporate information with the masses.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty years ago, my parents started a push to transfer

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<v Speaker 1>all of our home movies old eight millimeter movies to

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<v Speaker 1>videotape to VHS. Now those tapes are probably falling apart,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't they. I mean I need to get them digital

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<v Speaker 1>at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Anything analog, whether it's Betamax tapes, VHS, cassettes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>eight milimeter, sixteen millimeter, you name it, it's all at

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<v Speaker 2>risk unless it's even if it's digital. I mean, as

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<v Speaker 2>we saw recently with the LA Fire wildfires, even if

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<v Speaker 2>it's digital and it's at home, then it's at risk

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<v Speaker 2>to natural disasters especially. So the idea is not only

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<v Speaker 2>should you digitize it, but you should also upload it

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<v Speaker 2>to the cloud where it's stored somewhere else geographically. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for example, one Drive, which is a Microsoft

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<v Speaker 2>cloud service, you get one terabyte for free every year.

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<v Speaker 2>If you use Office three sixty five, which is like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Word Outlook, Excel PowerPoint, which is I think

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<v Speaker 2>as low as fifty or sixty bucks a year, you

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<v Speaker 2>get a thousand gigabytes of storage for free. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably more than enough for most people's home movie collection.

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<v Speaker 2>But the trick is digitizing it. So I wrote a

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<v Speaker 2>piece for AARP. It was just published today, in fact

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<v Speaker 2>the thirtieth and it looks at the two main options

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<v Speaker 2>you have doing it yourself and what you need to know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you can have a fun weekend of it

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<v Speaker 2>by digitizing if you've got the gear and the time

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, or you hire a service to do

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<v Speaker 2>it for you, and really involves putting your memories in

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<v Speaker 2>a shoe box or or something bigger. Trusting the courier service. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you never know, right, I mean, even if

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<v Speaker 2>it's insured, if it's irreplaceable home movies, there is still

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<v Speaker 2>a risk, but generally you're okay. Or if you want

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<v Speaker 2>a local service where you can hand deliver it and

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<v Speaker 2>you get back the originals along with a digital copy,

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<v Speaker 2>but make sure you upload it to the cloud. There

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<v Speaker 2>is a company in SoCal that I like called scan

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<v Speaker 2>my photos dot com. So they do photos as well

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<v Speaker 2>as movies, and they're very affordable, very reliable. And uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's a KFI fan. I'm a mistaken Yeah, Mitch,

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<v Speaker 2>Mitch Goldstone is the founder and CEO. So scan my

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<v Speaker 2>photos dot Com is a good place. Just to give

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<v Speaker 2>them a plug. But there are other services, even big

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<v Speaker 2>box stores. They'll often have a service desk and you

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<v Speaker 2>can bring your stuff there. You know, but yeah that

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<v Speaker 2>this is where they'll digitize everything for you and they'll

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<v Speaker 2>keep it in the cloud or they'll give you versions

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<v Speaker 2>to uploads. So yeah, if that, if anything's been a reminder,

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<v Speaker 2>it's what been going on in southern California your last

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<v Speaker 2>month or so. So yeah, back up those important files.

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<v Speaker 1>Not awesome. We're gonna throw a link up to the

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<v Speaker 1>article ways to convert your home movies to digital Great stuff, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, appreciate it, You Toobe, Thanks Gary, Mark Saltzman.

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<v Speaker 1>There of course follow Mark on x M a r C.

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