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Speaker 1: a space station. Hey guys, welcome back to the show
Speaker 1: for a rare in person interview with our good friend
Speaker 1: Laura Van Tyne. Met her years ago at e SAIDI Ranch,
Speaker 1: I believe twenty nineteen, and she has been slay and
Speaker 1: demons ever since. Thank you, Tyler.
Speaker 2: It's really fun to be here by the way, Sedona
Speaker 2: with you guys hanging out, so thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a good time out here. And yeah,
Speaker 1: we had some fun at Bradshaw Ranch the other night,
Speaker 1: which we can get into some of that. But why
Speaker 1: we're here today is because Laura is she I always
Speaker 1: say her office is in the astral realm, and she's
Speaker 1: constantly helping people battle demons, remove entity attachments, and clearing
Speaker 1: houses and homes and businesses, and just helping in general.
Speaker 1: Because we are in the midst of a spiritual war
Speaker 1: right now. And if you are in this line of work,
Speaker 1: I don't have to tell you that we receive attacks.
Speaker 1: We are attacked a lot of times in the astral
Speaker 1: realm and psychically, and it's easy to just pick up
Speaker 1: entities when you're walking from town or go shopping at
Speaker 1: Walmart wherever. Any cases, and we always need to keep
Speaker 1: our spiritual and energetic hygiene in check. And if we
Speaker 1: aren't doing that, then that's how we get manipulated mind control,
Speaker 1: that's how we start to get sick. We can get diseases,
Speaker 1: they can destroy relationships, and so this isn't something that
Speaker 1: we take lightly. She really genuinely is. I call her
Speaker 1: a demon hunted because that's what she does. Is not
Speaker 1: everybody's built for it, not everyone's cut out for it.
Speaker 1: But we need people like her to help us remove
Speaker 1: these entities and help us clear ourselves, clear our lives,
Speaker 1: clear our path so we can stay focused and not
Speaker 1: be pulled off track. So I could go on and
Speaker 1: on and on about everything she's done. She's beatten a
Speaker 1: few books and your website, Lauravantie dot com. I yeah,
Speaker 1: it is, that's exactly it. Yeah, I can find more
Speaker 1: about her there. But welcome to the show. Thanks for
Speaker 1: being here today, Laura.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for having me. It is we
Speaker 2: are in World War three, but it's not designed for
Speaker 2: the three D realm. And what we really have to
Speaker 2: remember about these demonic beings. They could be reptilians, they
Speaker 2: could be our cons, it could be anything. Honestly, they're
Speaker 2: just parasites because they need us and we don't need them,
Speaker 2: and that is the biggest lesson out of all of this.
Speaker 2: But if they're stuck on yet, we got to get
Speaker 2: them off because they do all kinds of things to us.
Speaker 1: Right And we've had you on the show many times
Speaker 1: in the past, So if anyone's interested in like the
Speaker 1: backstory and how she got into this line of work,
Speaker 1: you can just go through our library, type in her
Speaker 1: name and find those interviews. So I won't have you
Speaker 1: repeat a lot of that stuff. But either way, it
Speaker 1: was like awakening through adversity, baptism by fire. You know,
Speaker 1: you kind of like a lot of us, we just
Speaker 1: find ourselves in the middle of this and we learn
Speaker 1: the hardware. So what do you see right now? You
Speaker 1: know you started off, you know, seeing reptilians and clearing
Speaker 1: these entities and stuff. What do you see right now
Speaker 1: is has it gotten better? Are we at this precipice
Speaker 1: of this spiritual war? What does it look like to you?
Speaker 1: It is getting better?
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like it because right now we're all
Speaker 2: running around. We feel the chaotic energy going on. We
Speaker 2: feel like we're a pressure cooker. And I do believe
Speaker 2: what is happening is that we are simply the dark
Speaker 2: side is if we view them as a bunch of
Speaker 2: a bunch of toddlers. They're having temper tantrums right now
Speaker 2: because they're losing a lot of these wars and they
Speaker 2: are struggling. In the past, I would be working with somebody,
Speaker 2: I would you know, maybe find reptilions with them or
Speaker 2: whatever it was, and there would be a lot of them.
Speaker 2: And there have been a lot of cases lately where
Speaker 2: I'm removing them and as I'm removing them, it's like
Speaker 2: they sort of give up. They're just sort of done.
Speaker 2: But we never want to rest on our laurels with
Speaker 2: this because everything can change in a heartbeat, doesn't matter
Speaker 2: what the circumstances or which it is.
Speaker 1: We always have to be aware, right And for somebody
Speaker 1: who doesn't know what type of things are you seeing
Speaker 1: on people that they may not even understand is working
Speaker 1: through them? And then how do you remove that, like
Speaker 1: just explain to our audience, like why I'm calling you
Speaker 1: a demon out there? Either.
Speaker 2: Well, when I work with somebody, and a lot of
Speaker 2: people in this field, you know, colleagues have worked with me.
Speaker 2: I have a process that I use where you get
Speaker 2: to see in sense what is happening to not just me,
Speaker 2: So we've got two sets of eyes on the situation.
Speaker 2: And in the past it would be let's say we're
Speaker 2: finding reptilians. I'm using them because they're kind of the
Speaker 2: more common ones. We're seeing reptilians, and what's happening to
Speaker 2: the person is maybe they have this weird anxiety that
Speaker 2: is not theirs. They're dealing with brain fog, they have
Speaker 2: no energy, something is siphoning something off of them. They
Speaker 2: can't put their fingers on it. Or you are in
Speaker 2: a relationship with somebody, if it's a spouse, a boyfriend, girlfriend,
Speaker 2: a child, or whatever, and you just have this explosive
Speaker 2: anger out of no reason. What is that? Where is
Speaker 2: that coming from?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And those are kind of the more common cues and
Speaker 2: clues that we have that something is off. But a
Speaker 2: lot of times now they're impacting our house. So these
Speaker 2: medical mysteries, medical anomalies that are happening with people. A
Speaker 2: lot of times it's this unseen energetic world that is
Speaker 2: maybe targeting a heart issue for somebody, or a lung
Speaker 2: issue or whatever it is, a skin cancer or cancer whatever.
Speaker 2: So there's many ways that they can gain access to us.
Speaker 2: But I don't want to scare people. But as long
Speaker 2: as we're living a clean life and we're working for
Speaker 2: the greater good and we're I'm not saying we live
Speaker 2: a perfect life, but we have this intention, this consciousness
Speaker 2: about us, it makes it harder for them to attach
Speaker 2: to us.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, So that's a great I'm glad you said that,
Speaker 1: because we don't want to scare people. The purpose of
Speaker 1: this isn't the promote fear and talk about this stuff
Speaker 1: and dwell on it, right, But it's showing up in
Speaker 1: all of our lives and everyone's dealing with it in
Speaker 1: some capacity. And Laura is the person you call the ghostbusters.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, And you know there's many people, not
Speaker 1: to take away from everyone else doing this work out there.
Speaker 1: Everyone is, you know. So there's many of us that
Speaker 1: are needed and a lot of people are very powerful
Speaker 1: soul right now assisting in this. But so when somebody
Speaker 1: calls you and needs help with something, just give us
Speaker 1: kind of walk us through what you're going to see,
Speaker 1: what you'll potentially see, and then what you'll do to
Speaker 1: help remove that demon. And maybe if you even want
Speaker 1: to get specific and share a case study.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can let me think about that real quick second.
Speaker 2: I just work with somebody a couple days ago, and
Speaker 2: there's a methodology that I use that I've developed because
Speaker 2: I don't want to I remote view, and so when
Speaker 2: we're working together, I'm teaching you how to remote view. Also,
Speaker 2: in a remote viewing means I have the ability to
Speaker 2: project my consciousness to another time space and dimension to
Speaker 2: where the biggest interferences are. And so that's how I
Speaker 2: get started. I'm just going to let people digest that
Speaker 2: for a moment. It's shifting your consciousness to another time
Speaker 2: space or to mentioned to see what is happening or
Speaker 2: feel what is happening. Because when we talk about, oh
Speaker 2: I can't see things, I'm not psychic. Your intuition tells
Speaker 2: you that you're psychic. When you feel energy around us,
Speaker 2: that's a psychic ability. It doesn't have to be seeing
Speaker 2: dead people and demons all the time because that's no fun, right,
Speaker 2: So using those senses. So we're working with this, and
Speaker 2: I have over the years what I would find, and
Speaker 2: I don't want to say too much because I don't
Speaker 2: want to. If somebody ever works with me, I don't
Speaker 2: want them to have a certain expectation. So if I
Speaker 2: am working with somebody and I have them set up
Speaker 2: the scene, Okay, maybe it's a mountain scene, or maybe
Speaker 2: it's some kind of scene, and we start analyzing what
Speaker 2: is going on, because this is their higher self and
Speaker 2: their subconscious self showing us what is happening. So if
Speaker 2: I am seeing a lot of mounds, for example, that
Speaker 2: tells me that there might be a reptilian eggnests around
Speaker 2: their energy field, under the house or wherever it is.
Speaker 2: So that's one of the examples. So maybe reptilian mounds
Speaker 2: would be one. Or sometimes children and even adults will
Speaker 2: see maybe spider beings walking on the walls and the
Speaker 2: ceilings and stuff, and where does that come from? They
Speaker 2: have no right to be here, and so there's been
Speaker 2: a lot of theme invariation. I've developed this craft over
Speaker 2: the past twenty years, which is crazy to think about.
Speaker 2: I used to be a middle school teacher. I should
Speaker 2: be retired with a pension, right, So those reptilian mounds
Speaker 2: tell me that we've got reptilians in the neighborhood and
Speaker 2: we've got to remove them, and I have a process
Speaker 2: that I use to remove them. It can be a
Speaker 2: dangerous process. They don't like me, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 2: We're out the other night at what was that frash
Speaker 2: our rant, and we're with a friend of ours, Abulyn,
Speaker 2: and she's like, there's graves and we're all hearing grays.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, man, I don't want the grays right.
Speaker 1: They don't like me, But.
Speaker 2: We see what's going on and we remove them. And
Speaker 2: I have a process that I use with my spiritual guides,
Speaker 2: my teams. It's the angels, it's the dragons, it's our dramaedins.
Speaker 1: All of these.
Speaker 2: Beings play a role in this. And over time, my
Speaker 2: spiritual team has grown so large and they all have
Speaker 2: different strengths and purposes, and so I know who to
Speaker 2: call on for what And that's where I met with that.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to bring up the spider beings because
Speaker 2: I've been seeing a lot of them lately.
Speaker 1: And this is like an astrual spider, right, astral spider.
Speaker 2: They're usually about six feet around or something. And you
Speaker 2: know what really can remove them, if you can get
Speaker 2: rid of the fear, and there's not too many, is
Speaker 2: visualize yourself pouring salt on them and they can disappear.
Speaker 2: But these spider beings often have a straw in the
Speaker 2: center at their back, and they will go under the
Speaker 2: bed and then they will siphon our energy out, so
Speaker 2: you're tired all the time, you're not fully sleeping. They're
Speaker 2: relatively easy to remove. I've been just seeing a lot
Speaker 2: of them lately. It's just them and very I see
Speaker 2: waves of things. And so if you have our seeing
Speaker 2: or sensing that bringing a green night light in your
Speaker 2: room or your home. I mean, in early days, I
Speaker 2: figured out that the frequency of green at night created
Speaker 2: a barrier against these dark things. And you know, our
Speaker 2: house looked like it we were ghostbusters. I mean, they
Speaker 2: had something on that with the green light. And you know,
Speaker 2: I was back in those early days, say, oh God,
Speaker 2: I hope the neighbors don't ask what's going on?
Speaker 1: Right? Nobody ever? Did? I think there may have been
Speaker 1: afraid of us or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 2: So there's tools and strategies we can use to help ourselves.
Speaker 2: Green night light at night, frankincense resins are really potent. Also,
Speaker 2: dragon's blood resins are at potent. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: things we can do to help ourselves, but sometimes we
Speaker 2: do need professional help.
Speaker 1: Right, and it's interesting to spiders, you know that. That's
Speaker 1: something that came up for me recently and we kind
Speaker 1: of correlated it to you know, Sedona's vortex hotspot right right,
Speaker 1: and there was one specific location where lots of people
Speaker 1: go and they'll do ceremony and connect. It seemed like
Speaker 1: that intersection, that Leylan intersection portal, whatever was hijacked and distorted.
Speaker 1: The frequencies were distorted. So whatever positive energy was flowing
Speaker 1: through there, it seemed like these spiders or whatever darkness
Speaker 1: it found the way in. They found the way in.
Speaker 1: There was a chink in the armor, and they kind
Speaker 1: of took over that spot and it almost like that's
Speaker 1: how they were getting into the area. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: sounds kind of silly, but I think that's really what
Speaker 1: we're dealing with here. If people are coming to Sedona
Speaker 1: or places like this for spiritual growth and healing, it
Speaker 1: would make sense to me if I was on the
Speaker 1: other side of this war to set up shop and
Speaker 1: wait for these naive people to just walk into your territory.
Speaker 1: It's like a honeypot or a flag trap, right absolutely,
Speaker 1: and then they're snaring people without them even knowing, and
Speaker 1: they'll they'll leave. They they might not even know or
Speaker 1: notice to subtle difference in their energy field until it's
Speaker 1: too late.
Speaker 2: Until it's too late, it grows and grows and grows.
Speaker 2: And you bring up a really good point. And I
Speaker 2: kind of want to say this because a lot of
Speaker 2: people come here to Sedona with good intentions, wanting a
Speaker 2: spiritual experience, but spiritual experience is not are not all
Speaker 2: the same, and we have to set what kind of
Speaker 2: spiritual experience do you want to set? The intention connecting
Speaker 2: with the higher realms or whatever it is. And a
Speaker 2: lot of people I will hear people say or they'll
Speaker 2: tell me that they like to open portals. Why do
Speaker 2: you feel they need to open a portal? I think
Speaker 2: the light side can have access without us opening a portal, right,
Speaker 2: And so it's spiritual hygiene, it's spiritual boundaries. Also, we've
Speaker 2: been walking around and I've been wanting to make a
Speaker 2: social media post on this for a long long time.
Speaker 2: So we're just going to do it now, perct okay.
Speaker 2: And this goes into the concept of I do not consent. Okay,
Speaker 2: So for a number of years, everybody's running around saying
Speaker 2: I do not consent, thinking that will take care of
Speaker 2: their problem. Right, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't.
Speaker 2: So right now, what we're seeing with all of this
Speaker 2: disclosure stuff is everything hiding in plain sight.
Speaker 1: Right. Have you ever heard of Carnelian law? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, we've got all these spiritual laws, all these karmic laws.
Speaker 2: There's something called Carnelian law. And the Carnelian law is
Speaker 2: what the dark operatives use to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing.
Speaker 2: So what they will do is they will put something
Speaker 2: in a movie or you'll see something, and because it's
Speaker 2: in plain sight, then they're absolved from whatever harm they cause.
Speaker 1: Right. Oh, it's like revelation of the method. That's another thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So when you're saying I do not consent,
Speaker 2: you can also add and Carnelian law does not apply.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: It actually adds an extra layer because now you're saying
Speaker 2: this Carnelian law does not apply, period, and so they
Speaker 2: gain less access to you this way too.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, that's great advice for one. I mean, these
Speaker 1: are things we don't think about. Most people don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know about that, and I've been doing
Speaker 1: this for years, and I'm sure maybe I've heard about it,
Speaker 1: but you know, we need these reminders.
Speaker 2: You get so much information coming at you all the time.
Speaker 2: I mean serious. I was like, I can't even keep
Speaker 2: up with you right now.
Speaker 1: It's a lot, but I found a way to navigate it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, but I appreciate that. So I want to
Speaker 1: also kind of connect this to what's happening right now
Speaker 1: in the world with the Epstein Island stuff, the files,
Speaker 1: what's going on in Mexico and the Middle East. You know,
Speaker 1: these cartels and these targets that we are taking out,
Speaker 1: they are all basically at the top, or maybe not
Speaker 1: the top, but they're definitely middleman of this child sex trafficking,
Speaker 1: satanic pedophile eerite ring. And how much of that, how
Speaker 1: much of what you see is connected to that? And
Speaker 1: do you have any insights on like who who are
Speaker 1: the key players involved in this? All of it's connected.
Speaker 2: We cannot clean this planet of the evil, rid the
Speaker 2: planet of the evil if, for example, we recently went
Speaker 2: into Iran and decimated the Iatola and all of those people, right,
Speaker 2: they're not people. These are demonic beings in human bodies.
Speaker 2: That's the difference. So when they exit the physical body,
Speaker 2: that's when I get to go in, and I get
Speaker 2: to go in, and it's dangerous work. It's just dangerous.
Speaker 2: But removing those dark souls, those dark entities from the
Speaker 2: earth plane so they can no longer come back through
Speaker 2: the lower Astral is going to be the game changing moment.
Speaker 2: I don't recommend people thinking they can do it without
Speaker 2: being fully studied, fully knowledgeable, because it's really dangerous. I
Speaker 2: went after I counted sixty, they said forty eight or
Speaker 2: something like that. I went after them and removed them.
Speaker 2: I had a team with me. I don't do this
Speaker 2: by myself. Remove them because that cleans up the planet.
Speaker 1: Removed the souls from the people are the lower.
Speaker 2: Astral, the demonic souls that were in the human bodies.
Speaker 2: Removing them out of the lower Astral. The same thing
Speaker 2: with Jeffrey Epstein and all of these other dark beings.
Speaker 2: If we allow them to roam the lower Astral, they
Speaker 2: get to grow their armies down there, they get to
Speaker 2: reincarnate back here with more and more power, more and
Speaker 2: more evil. We've got to clean up the earthplane, but
Speaker 2: it actually starts in the lower Astral.
Speaker 1: Right, So, okay, a lot of people people are seeing
Speaker 1: all this news right now, and they're kind of falling
Speaker 1: into this doom and gloom narrative because that's actually what's
Speaker 1: being pushed. And if you don't understand the highest aspects
Speaker 1: of this war, that it is a spiritual war, it
Speaker 1: may look like we're fucked. Pardon my language. So what
Speaker 1: do you see energetically astraally? Would you agree with the
Speaker 1: statement that there is a light force, an alliance, a
Speaker 1: white hat operation that is actively pursuing this darkness and
Speaker 1: trying to take that down? Is that what it looks like.
Speaker 2: You have to get rid of it. And right now
Speaker 2: there are beings guiding certain government officials to help. Removing
Speaker 2: the dictator from Venezuela was a big deal. Removing the
Speaker 2: junkin in the Middle East is a big deal because
Speaker 2: it's also funding and funneling these little pet projects they have.
Speaker 2: And so looking at Minnesota, this is such low hanging
Speaker 2: fruit that had such a global impact. The billions of
Speaker 2: dollars that fled the state of Minnesota went to fund terrorism.
Speaker 2: This is all dark ops. I don't care how you
Speaker 2: want to spin it, but it's getting cleaned up. We're
Speaker 2: seeing the light. Yeah, it looks scary, Yeah, it's like
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, is this going to happen? Is that
Speaker 2: going to happen? Nothing worth having is easy. And we
Speaker 2: have been in the spiritual war for many, many millennia.
Speaker 2: We're seeing the cusp of things really starting to turn
Speaker 2: the tide, which is a big deal. And then you've
Speaker 2: got the Mexican cartels, and you've got China, You've got Russia,
Speaker 2: you've got all of these countries which are being part
Speaker 2: puppeted by dark ops. They have been really working hard.
Speaker 2: The United States is honestly one of the last strong
Speaker 2: holds on this planet for many reasons. If they have
Speaker 2: to break the United States from the inside out, it's
Speaker 2: the Trojan horse story. So they're doing it through fun
Speaker 2: bringing in the fentanyl, bringing in all of the sex trade,
Speaker 2: all of this stuff, and it's crumbling.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: He's causing a lot of disruption. This is a disruptor president.
Speaker 2: But we have to have a disruptive president. It would
Speaker 2: be great if we said, okay, it's all over now
Speaker 2: and we're going to start over right now and have
Speaker 2: this beautiful, wonderful life.
Speaker 1: It's not doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2: Right now, we're at this If are you familiar with homeopathy?
Speaker 2: So when you take a homeopathic remedy, it gets worse.
Speaker 2: Your symptoms get worse before it gets better. And I
Speaker 2: do feel that's where we're at. It's it's the healing
Speaker 2: pains and everything is coming up to the surface really fast,
Speaker 2: and that's what's happening, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that absolutely makes perfect sense to me. And it's
Speaker 1: kind of we've known this and we talk about this
Speaker 1: on this channel a lot. I appreciate seeing it through
Speaker 1: your eyes though, because we're talking about what's really behind
Speaker 1: these people, and I want to go back to something
Speaker 1: you said earlier. Okay, they're not people. Some of these
Speaker 1: aren't people and potentially reptilian or other hybrid races, different
Speaker 1: bloodlines that belong to who knows what, But they don't
Speaker 1: see themselves as human, and therefore that's why they're targeting us,
Speaker 1: right because we're this, they're harvesting our energy and we're
Speaker 1: this where this food source, fuel source bar them. What
Speaker 1: do you see? Is it just reptilians or is this
Speaker 1: like now a hod pods of But they're here under
Speaker 1: the guise of the human body. And you explain that
Speaker 1: maybe to somebody who doesn't understand.
Speaker 2: So the dark side will capture souls. I call it
Speaker 2: soul napping. It's more than just loose. So when somebody
Speaker 2: dies and the ghost energy, so what the energy that
Speaker 2: animates this body, in this body is our soul. So
Speaker 2: when we die, our soul leaves the body. It has
Speaker 2: to go somewhere, right, And so we've been programmed in
Speaker 2: this matrix to believe that about persons should rot in hell,
Speaker 2: that their time wasn't done or they don't want to go.
Speaker 2: What this causes and you know who gave us those
Speaker 2: thoughts definitely not the light side. The light side wants
Speaker 2: us to go back home is the dark side. So
Speaker 2: when we don't cross over, it gives the dark side,
Speaker 2: the Reptilians, the grays Arcans access to these ghost energies
Speaker 2: and they can take them, and they do. I have
Speaker 2: seen in the work that I do, reptilians that have
Speaker 2: these huge canisters that are like the sizes of large
Speaker 2: homes that's offward world metal and inside there they put
Speaker 2: in these souls and in these souls they use their energies,
Speaker 2: they extract their energies. They can reincarnate these people, and
Speaker 2: their souls are broken, they're damage, they're fractured, they're traumatized.
Speaker 2: So this gives them more access to being a deeper
Speaker 2: marionette puppet to control the people. It's still my job
Speaker 2: to break free of it to the best I can.
Speaker 2: But as they're doing this, they're inhabiting people and then
Speaker 2: eventually they can kick the soul out of the body
Speaker 2: or they're you know, the non character players kind of
Speaker 2: thing as well. So in the Middle East, I see
Speaker 2: a lot of gin j I n N dji in
Speaker 2: whatever however you want to spell it. And you know,
Speaker 2: think about that cute little Robin Williams movie, right, Genie
Speaker 2: and Aladdin. Right, that's the Gin, and isn't he cute?
Speaker 2: Isn't he fun? He's a trickster, Yeah, he's a trickster.
Speaker 2: And so that's what I see all over there. A
Speaker 2: few years ago, when Hamas took all of those people,
Speaker 2: I was seeing the Gin all over that place having
Speaker 2: a massive feeding fronzy. It's heartbreaking on a good day,
Speaker 2: and I work really hard to break it as best
Speaker 2: as I can. I know it's not all my responsibility.
Speaker 2: I know there's other people doing it too, but this
Speaker 2: is a big deal. Getting this stuff off the earth
Speaker 2: plane is what we're here for.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're seeing humans that have been their souls
Speaker 1: in the back seat and something else is in the
Speaker 1: driver's seat. Absolutely, but it's still a human in essence. Yes, Now,
Speaker 1: are you seeing actual extraterrestrial or physical body grays and
Speaker 1: participating as well?
Speaker 2: Absolutely. There's one American politician. Every time I see her
Speaker 2: on the camera, I see the reptilian all the time.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, I wonder if I could guess who that is. Hillary.
Speaker 2: That's one of them. There's another one too, Nancy.
Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, and she actually admitted it once in
Speaker 1: an interview. Yeah. She she even says she's a reptilian
Speaker 1: in some news interview.
Speaker 2: So, therefore, those bodies are there's no human soul in
Speaker 2: those bodies. And this is the concept that we have
Speaker 2: to struggle to grasp. There's no human inside that body,
Speaker 2: but the body looks and feels like a body, right, right, And.
Speaker 1: That's when you get into I'll just use this as
Speaker 1: an example, the Hillary and Bill Clinton deposition. Then lying
Speaker 1: through their teeth as a true sociopath would, because they
Speaker 1: their mind is fragmented. In a sociopath, they will they
Speaker 1: have alters, right, so they can literally tell you something
Speaker 1: and believe what they're saying or act like I never
Speaker 1: did that. They'll look you in the eye and said,
Speaker 1: I never did that. That wasn't me, even though it was,
Speaker 1: but they're part of that half of the brain believes
Speaker 1: that it was them. So I'm sitting here watching this
Speaker 1: like the audacity of these people just lying through their teeth,
Speaker 1: pretending like this is nothing they had, they didn't do it,
Speaker 1: but it's it. We're talking about a sociopath, right, and
Speaker 1: the manufacture and altars and not even being human. There
Speaker 1: is no moral compass, So to them, this is just
Speaker 1: a game.
Speaker 2: It's just a game, absolutely, and Bill Clinton smiling and
Speaker 2: you know it's like, oh, I remember the good old days,
Speaker 2: looking yeah, reminiscent files, right, oh, and you know this,
Speaker 2: we talk about Epstein and wanting justice for all of
Speaker 2: this stuff, but we have to understand that that symbol
Speaker 2: that was Epstein, it's still being carried on and nothing
Speaker 2: has stopped. About a month ago, I had a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of I'm gonna call them Epstein victims because I
Speaker 2: don't know the new name of whoever's in charge, show
Speaker 2: up in my bedroom and these were newer victims. What
Speaker 2: was interestingly, their souls. They were dead, and they were
Speaker 2: telling me they were being I don't know how they
Speaker 2: got out, and I don't know how they found me.
Speaker 2: There's about two dozen of them. They broke free somehow,
Speaker 2: and they were telling me that they were being experimented
Speaker 2: upon to create a golden bloodline. Yes, and that was
Speaker 2: the first time I had heard of that, And they
Speaker 2: were in these experimentations. There were two people there. Bill
Speaker 2: Gates was one of those people. And that's kind of
Speaker 2: a no brainer, right of course. But they get harmed,
Speaker 2: their souls get harmed, and then even in death, and
Speaker 2: this is where I want people to really think. When
Speaker 2: somebody dies and we say, well, at least they're in
Speaker 2: a better place, never assume that, right, Bring in your
Speaker 2: angels acts. The biggest form of spiritual service we can
Speaker 2: have is to learn how to cross over ghost energies
Speaker 2: the debt, right, because they can recycle this over and
Speaker 2: over and it's simply. It can be as simple as
Speaker 2: I'm requesting a team of angels from the higher realms
Speaker 2: to take these ghosts, my beloved, my not so beloved, whatever,
Speaker 2: back home to the heavens, to the higher realms, whatever
Speaker 2: your word is for right now, right, it can be
Speaker 2: that simple.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, that's important in helping to transition to
Speaker 1: those souls. I agree, and rewind me back just a
Speaker 1: minute ago. What were we talk about just prior Epstein?
Speaker 1: So the Yeah, unfortunately it's not just a one island, right,
Speaker 1: And I know somebody who helps rescue children, and he's
Speaker 1: worked for the Trump administration and they're very, very successful
Speaker 1: now that they've gotten a green light to go in
Speaker 1: and actually do this stuff. Prior to that, it was
Speaker 1: actually illegal for a citizen to rescue your child because
Speaker 1: you have to break the law to rescue. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: now they've gotten that green light and we're actually making
Speaker 1: some headway. But he said that it's Epstein Island is
Speaker 1: one of many, and they're still active. Unfortunately, it is
Speaker 1: very true. And this is where a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago we had an open border policy, right, which was
Speaker 1: all by design.
Speaker 2: Because if nobody knows you're missing, and nobody's going to
Speaker 2: look for you, it's that simple, right.
Speaker 1: Or most of these you know, we're talking eugenics and
Speaker 1: cloning and breeding programs. If you don't even know, if
Speaker 1: we don't even know these people exist in the first place, right,
Speaker 1: what kind of slave labor force are they're using for
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff out there, plus their own experiments.
Speaker 1: But going back to the golden blood line, then that
Speaker 1: is what the Germans would do then. So they were
Speaker 1: trying to literally make perfect the Aryan race and the
Speaker 1: blonde hair, blue eye, and they were basically anyone that
Speaker 1: wasn't them is very you know, you could see them
Speaker 1: like the racism there, but that's what was happening. And
Speaker 1: I think that it's a very deep complex story that
Speaker 1: I think what Epstein is trying to do, or what
Speaker 1: they're trying to do on Epstein Island is something like that.
Speaker 1: They're trying to preserve this bloodline and make the model citizen,
Speaker 1: the model human, whatever it is. And by using all
Speaker 1: all of these people, and you know that he had
Speaker 1: I guess the company that was involved in all the
Speaker 1: school photos, the portraits was in the Epstein files. So
Speaker 1: they're tracking all these individuals, right, and they're getting their
Speaker 1: images and.
Speaker 2: They're scanning these kids, right, They're scanning these kids to
Speaker 2: see who would be compliant, who is a good fit?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: What psychic abilities do they have?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, all that to say is that they're monitoring
Speaker 1: everybody and they're tracking blood lines and then they're collecting
Speaker 1: DNA to see what, if you know, to try and
Speaker 1: create this superior race essentially. And that's interesting that you
Speaker 1: saw that, because I mean, all of that information is
Speaker 1: in the Epstein files. They're absolutely doing that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: Consciousness transfers, soul tracking, soul monitoring, it's all there, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's not a theory anymore. So that also, this
Speaker 1: is another interesting point. Maybe you can touch on this
Speaker 1: soul tracking. Even the CIA has documents declassified on this.
Speaker 1: They know they can monitor souls and then see which
Speaker 1: body or even steer them into certain bodies and blood
Speaker 1: lines or families. What do you see as far as
Speaker 1: Echo's does that still happening?
Speaker 2: Is still happening? I want to say it's less than
Speaker 2: the bit. They will steer people in certain directions to
Speaker 2: get them to do certain things. And there's a certain
Speaker 2: technology and I've seen it many many times. And all
Speaker 2: we have to do if we get a thought in
Speaker 2: our head that's not ours one, is it beneficial, is
Speaker 2: it positive, is it harmful or is it negative? Figure
Speaker 2: out what that thought is. If you feel like that
Speaker 2: thought is not your thought, you have the right to
Speaker 2: say nope and just stop what you're doing, say no,
Speaker 2: and go do something else. It breaks the connections over
Speaker 2: and over and over. Every time they try to connect
Speaker 2: with us and they fail, it's like they lose energy.
Speaker 2: So energy is currency current. So every time they try to,
Speaker 2: like you know, tag me, I actually went to the
Speaker 2: Seven Sacred Pools this morning with a friend of mine
Speaker 2: and I felt something go whoosh right through here. I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, Nope and disconnect it, get recentered, get grounded,
Speaker 2: and move on. Don't go into hysterics, don't go into fear,
Speaker 2: and because those are the emotions they want. Because once
Speaker 2: we do that, they get more and more access to us.
Speaker 2: And I'm telling people that because it does happen to
Speaker 2: me every now and then. But when you have a
Speaker 2: strong mind, they can't connect. They're going to try. When
Speaker 2: you have a strong mind, their prize is bigger if
Speaker 2: they can break it, right, and so just go in
Speaker 2: and say nope, not today. One of the biggest ways
Speaker 2: to break this is through honest laughter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the laughter is the best medicine. It really is.
Speaker 2: And there's that phrase means something and so this when
Speaker 2: we can get to this place where we're having this
Speaker 2: big belly laugh or whatever, it breaks the spells so
Speaker 2: to speak, and they disconnect because it's a high frequency
Speaker 2: with sound also and yeah, yeah makes it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anytime I kind of tap in to do a
Speaker 1: clearing or something lately, where I've been hearing is bells
Speaker 1: frequency sound like they can't stress enough. The importance of
Speaker 1: creating a frequency that combats or just washes away whatever
Speaker 1: that lower frequency is. So if you're trying to do
Speaker 1: a clearing and you have access to some sort of
Speaker 1: tuning forks or sound bowls or even like a ripe
Speaker 1: machine or something that can cancel out those other frequencies,
Speaker 1: absolutely I would recommend that.
Speaker 2: And you don't need to spend a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Even if you have one or two items it really helps.
Speaker 2: But also look around your house. Is there something when
Speaker 2: you look in your house? Is it cluttered?
Speaker 1: Is it messy?
Speaker 2: Because if it is, you've got stagnant energy, heavy energy, right,
Speaker 2: clean it up. That phrase cleanliness is next to Godliness
Speaker 2: does mean something. If you've got something in your house
Speaker 2: when when you look at it, it does not bring
Speaker 2: you joy. You don't need it except for the bills.
Speaker 2: Pay the bills.
Speaker 1: Don't you know those? Right, But in all seriousness, know
Speaker 1: that just you can get rid of it.
Speaker 2: We don't take our stuff with us, and we die
Speaker 2: and lead these bodies, so it's not that valuable. So
Speaker 2: if you've got these things like this in your home,
Speaker 2: where you've got something that you feel is dark, get
Speaker 2: rid of it.
Speaker 1: Don't donate it.
Speaker 2: You don't want to if it is contaminated, and if
Speaker 2: it has a negative enterity attached to it or heavy
Speaker 2: energy attached to it, and you'd give it to goodwill
Speaker 2: or something, you're commically responsible for that.
Speaker 1: So just throw it away. Yeah. I had to do
Speaker 1: that recently with something that I didn't want to get
Speaker 1: rid of. It was pricey object and it had been
Speaker 1: bothering me for some time. I didn't want to get
Speaker 1: rid of it because of how much it costs and
Speaker 1: whatever part of the trap, right, And finally I just
Speaker 1: came to the conclusion. Every time I thought about, like,
Speaker 1: what's what is the disturbance, what is the distortion? I
Speaker 1: would see that object and I just had to say
Speaker 1: I'm done, I'm throwing it away. And it changed everything
Speaker 1: and felt the difference, It shifted the whole place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's real and unfortunately we have to get rid
Speaker 1: of stuff sometimes and we can't hold on to the
Speaker 1: past anyway. We can't take that stuff with us. So
Speaker 1: understand everything's energy and it served its purpose and it's
Speaker 1: time to go. And going back to the soul tracking thing,
Speaker 1: something I want to bring up is we were talking
Speaker 1: about this last night at dinner. The ritual sacrifices that
Speaker 1: the Illuminati does and whoever else, the secret societies, the
Speaker 1: whole purpose of that is a form of soul trap
Speaker 1: for their own kind. Like they don't let the souls
Speaker 1: of these celebrities or even the royal family, whoever it is,
Speaker 1: they don't let that soul go. These are pre arranged
Speaker 1: ritual deaths. They actually the parents sometimes sign a contract.
Speaker 1: Your son is going to die at age nineteen in
Speaker 1: the helicopter crash or whatever the case is. That's a
Speaker 1: ritual depth and there is quite literally a ritual or
Speaker 1: a ceremony that takes place on that day to make
Speaker 1: sure that they they trap that soul and then they
Speaker 1: steer it into a new vessel and new avatar or
Speaker 1: house it until they need it for someone else. And
Speaker 1: that is something I don't think most people are in
Speaker 1: stand when we see these celebrity deaths, these are ritual deaths,
Speaker 1: and that's intentional or if they even died at all,
Speaker 1: and that's a whole other that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 2: You know, I did have in San Diego.
Speaker 1: I'm in them all.
Speaker 2: My girls are teenagers, and I'm in my little mediban
Speaker 2: kind of a car, the CD car, and Robert Williams
Speaker 2: had just died, and I had a friend who was
Speaker 2: friends with him, And the next thing I know, he
Speaker 2: showed up in my van terrified they.
Speaker 1: Were going to get him again. Wow.
Speaker 2: I don't know how he escaped him and he gave
Speaker 2: He literally said I could make the whole world laugh,
Speaker 2: but I could never laugh. I was not allowed to laugh.
Speaker 2: The laughter I produced was mechanical in nature. I didn't
Speaker 2: understand it at the time what he was really saying,
Speaker 2: because it was what fifteen years ago, I don't know,
Speaker 2: crossed him over. So I'm hoping he got out of
Speaker 2: that loop in its entirety.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I think he meant that he was basically
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't even mean to do or understand what
Speaker 1: he was signing up for when he signed a contract.
Speaker 1: Right took an oath soul to soul, whatever the case
Speaker 1: is that you don't really understand whether you're new to
Speaker 1: that field, like acting, right, I think that mechanical laughter
Speaker 1: is probably him. Like he wasn't actually laughing like he
Speaker 1: on your students could not laugh. He was traumatized, he
Speaker 1: was he knew, he knew too much. He was trapped. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He just showed up in my car. Yeah, and crossed
Speaker 2: him over quickly. He was in a hurry to go
Speaker 2: by the way. Oh yeah, which and this was this
Speaker 2: was before we really knew these things too, So I
Speaker 2: get it now in hindsight, I'm learning so much more
Speaker 2: than I did background, right, even by looking at these
Speaker 2: cases and stuff. I mean I've done thousands and thousands
Speaker 2: of these. I don't even know how many at this point.
Speaker 2: Everyone has a purpose, It has an intention, and it's
Speaker 2: to make the place a better planet.
Speaker 1: And they say depressed people. You can tell a depressed
Speaker 1: person since because sometimes I look the happiest, right, because
Speaker 1: they're pretty on this show, right, and.
Speaker 2: You've got to have a facade, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's usually the ones that look the happiest probably
Speaker 1: have the darkest thoughts or depression or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And now that's those are demons as well, right, like
Speaker 1: you said earlier, So I don't know where else I
Speaker 1: was going to go with that.
Speaker 2: They're all you know, they're all connected. Everything is interconnected.
Speaker 2: We're back to global politics. We're doing a huge cleanup,
Speaker 2: and it may seem scary to people, but we have
Speaker 2: to understand. We didn't get there overnight, right, and we
Speaker 2: have to be patient. Everybody's really upset. Oh, this person's
Speaker 2: not arrested yet. That person's this person? And you know
Speaker 2: what about this? What about that? There's a methodology to
Speaker 2: all of this, and if we were to clean up
Speaker 2: everything in the one felt swoop, we still wouldn't clean
Speaker 2: up everything. And we have to be patient. We all
Speaker 2: have different passions. We want this right now for because
Speaker 2: this is what I believe to be true, but you
Speaker 2: believe something else. So we have to be patient. This
Speaker 2: is a process that took many millennia to get here.
Speaker 2: It's going to the unwinding is complicated. It's not easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a web of wise it's all interwoven.
Speaker 1: It is there's in order of operations. We don't even
Speaker 1: have an infrastructure in place to accept the new world. Right,
Speaker 1: the new technologies, all the stuff that we want. It
Speaker 1: has to happen there. It has to be a process.
Speaker 1: It has to make sense to people too. If you
Speaker 1: just did it all now and just people out there
Speaker 1: that aren't paying attention, they're not going to know what's happening.
Speaker 1: It has to affect us at the DNA level. And
Speaker 1: it's a generational thing. And like the kids coming in now,
Speaker 1: they're going to be the next wave to help, you know,
Speaker 1: bring this whole new wave of light.
Speaker 2: Right, every generation is supposed to be doing this. In
Speaker 2: the beginning, it was like there, grandparents, et cetera, were
Speaker 2: like these prototypes, right, and to get us here. And
Speaker 2: I think that the light side is kind of perfecting
Speaker 2: this craft. And you know, when I get frustrated the
Speaker 2: light side, it's like why could how could you let
Speaker 2: this happen?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: I mean, how many more planets have been destroyed over
Speaker 2: and over and over, Right, It's like, come on, get
Speaker 2: a clue.
Speaker 1: Right, So it's it's like, just abolish the taxes. At
Speaker 1: least the morale or the planet will go on exactly,
Speaker 1: which we're on our way there too, We really are.
Speaker 2: And we're looking at these elements and we're seeing in
Speaker 2: the human bodies the right and the left and how
Speaker 2: we operate. Right, we're seeing temper tantrums, We're seeing Antifa
Speaker 2: and just rising and making noise.
Speaker 1: In fact, I.
Speaker 2: Was listening to a front of my I've got a
Speaker 2: friend who's an influencer up in the Pacific Northwest who
Speaker 2: keeps calling the stuff out.
Speaker 1: They have decibel.
Speaker 2: Readers, those paid performers in these ice protests, they have
Speaker 2: decibel readers because the louder they are, the more they
Speaker 2: get paid. Wow, that's not shocked, I mean, very creative, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so we have to understand that this noise is
Speaker 2: not authentic.
Speaker 1: Well, you can tell by the fact the lack of
Speaker 1: protests for the human trafficking and your child sex trafficking
Speaker 1: from the Epstein piles, right, there was no organized protest
Speaker 1: for that, and there's people getting together uming it now,
Speaker 1: which is great in fact, like it's it's there is
Speaker 1: a grassroots movement there. But that's what a real movement
Speaker 1: looks like. Yeah, it's not on the news on every channel.
Speaker 1: It's not these in all the sanctuary cities, you know,
Speaker 1: just not. It was very clear that those protests were
Speaker 1: bought and paid for by George Soros or whoever.
Speaker 2: How could you get matching signs across the country for
Speaker 2: a grassroots organization, right for the No Kings movement or
Speaker 2: whatever it was. Yet, how does that happen if it's
Speaker 2: grassroots exactly?
Speaker 1: And the fact that we didn't see that with the
Speaker 1: Epstein stuff is, you know, they're not going to protest
Speaker 1: their own crimes against humanity. I mean they're not.
Speaker 2: We're going to protest the people, those poor people who
Speaker 2: came into the country illegally because we still need.
Speaker 1: Them, right right, right, yeah, yeah, I mean that was
Speaker 1: all intentional weighing them all in and there was a
Speaker 1: whole interesting thing and a lot you know what's interesting
Speaker 1: about that too, Carry Cassidy talks about this a lot,
Speaker 1: is she has insiders to explain that a lot of
Speaker 1: these immigrants and people that came in were either grays
Speaker 1: connected to the grays. There seemed to be an alien
Speaker 1: agenda behind Oh yeah, yeah, and did you see anything.
Speaker 2: Like absolutely so the grays are I'm going to call
Speaker 2: them power brokers. So the grays, first of all, they
Speaker 2: can replicate their consciousness up to seven times, and so
Speaker 2: they can be in this body and in this body
Speaker 2: and in this body and they it's a credit debit system.
Speaker 2: So the Grays are you can think of as more
Speaker 2: capitalistic in nature, right, credits and debits and you know,
Speaker 2: exchanges and stuff. They lower level ones have no consciousness.
Speaker 2: They're almost like robots, but they're not the bigger ones.
Speaker 2: The tall white Grays have a consciousness, and they're like
Speaker 2: the master puppeteers, and they will have their own ships.
Speaker 2: Even I've seen these ships. I've actually been on the
Speaker 2: ship once and I took them out and it almost
Speaker 2: killed me. I remember being the ship. I remember removing
Speaker 2: the replicator because what they have is replication technology. You
Speaker 2: remove the replicator, they can't replicate their armies so fast,
Speaker 2: and then you remove the queen. They're very high mind mentality,
Speaker 2: so we've got hive mind mentality. You get the information,
Speaker 2: you send it up the food chain. Collective consciousness mentality
Speaker 2: is I'm collecting this information and we're all sharing it,
Speaker 2: much like this podcast would be an example of collective
Speaker 2: consciousness mentality. We're sharing information. The aliens, the extraterrestrials, the
Speaker 2: benevolent ones are more collective consciousness. The nefarious ones are
Speaker 2: more hive mind. Think of the board and the Star Trek,
Speaker 2: and so the grays are absolutely a part of this
Speaker 2: orchestration going on. Removing the grays off the earthplane. They
Speaker 2: can't reproduce themselves anymore. They have to have hybrids, they
Speaker 2: have to utilize our DNA. Removing them off the earthplane
Speaker 2: is one of the best things we could do. The
Speaker 2: question becomes is how do you do it right and
Speaker 2: still survive? And you know it's tricky, it's not easy.
Speaker 2: The best thing that the average person can do is
Speaker 2: don't engage. If you feel like they're there, you're going
Speaker 2: to bring in your angels, you're going to bring in
Speaker 2: your spiritual team, and don't engage. Have your guides remove them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's all. It's all a trap. Like engaging
Speaker 1: is taking de bait, and the same thing goes with
Speaker 1: an online troll. If you engage with that comment, you're
Speaker 1: already stooped down to their frequency and you're in this
Speaker 1: You're in this argument debate with a stranger that is
Speaker 1: literally distracted you and set you off course of the
Speaker 1: whole day. That's a trap. You've taken debit just by
Speaker 1: responding to it. And that's that applies everywhere. So it's
Speaker 1: a great advice just to not engage. Obviously, there's times
Speaker 1: whenever you have to engage.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we have to fight. Yeah, sometimes we have to fight,
Speaker 2: you know. And when we look at the alien agenda,
Speaker 2: the the various side of the benevolent side, we have
Speaker 2: to think about politics and this is where we get
Speaker 2: to make a difference. And politics exists in every dimension.
Speaker 2: I hate to break it to everybody out there, but
Speaker 2: when we die, there are still politics out there, right.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2: Actually, And when you are voting for something, you need
Speaker 2: to look beyond the surface. So for example, your local
Speaker 2: city or whatever it is, you need to do your homework.
Speaker 2: So right now, and I think it's in the state
Speaker 2: of Oregon, there's this bill to pass, you know, no
Speaker 2: killing of any animal whatsoever, including mice, I mean everything.
Speaker 2: No more cattle ranches, no more anything. But what they're
Speaker 2: doing is they're saying, oh, would you sign this petition
Speaker 2: is to you know, make sure that you know puppies
Speaker 2: and kittens aren't harmed, right right, there's a deeper message
Speaker 2: in there. So who wants puppies and kids to be harmed?
Speaker 1: Nobody?
Speaker 2: Who likes their steak, medium, rare, or whatever it is. Right,
Speaker 2: and so you know, who really wants a rodent infestation
Speaker 2: in their house if you can't bite mouse traps or
Speaker 2: mouse poison or whatever. So there's always a hidden agenda
Speaker 2: in these things. Start digging. It may take you a
Speaker 2: little time, but it's important to dig and say, you
Speaker 2: know what, No, of course, I don't want any harm
Speaker 2: to come to kittens and bunnies or whatever, and I'm
Speaker 2: not for any type of inhumane you know, cruelties. But
Speaker 2: we got to be logical too, so we got to
Speaker 2: read between the lines on those dumb voter pamphlet statements. Basically, yeah,
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a whole other episode than itself.
Speaker 2: And it's but it's politics, and it's what the dark
Speaker 2: side is trying to do to us. It's a division everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, this this is disclosure one on one where
Speaker 1: they're doing divide and concert. That's you know, it's yeah,
Speaker 1: and everything out there, including it doesn't have waygo right now.
Speaker 1: Everything is splitting. It's splitting. I don't know it is
Speaker 1: any unity in the community that we once had. Is
Speaker 1: there's been so much division based on everything that's happening
Speaker 1: on the world stage with the president, with everything not
Speaker 1: just him, but any issue out there. It's everything.
Speaker 2: And even within these spiritual communities where we're supposed to
Speaker 2: be love and kumbayah, we've got people with ego coming
Speaker 2: in trying to splinter groups.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah. Or it's sometimes it's intentional. Sometimes it's unintentional.
Speaker 1: You know, you have somebody with unhealed wounds that come in,
Speaker 1: don't realize you're doing it. Then the next person might
Speaker 1: be an actual government plant. Right exactly, it could. It
Speaker 1: goes both ways.
Speaker 2: The best thing we can do in these situations we
Speaker 2: need to remove. Okay, let me back up. Being human
Speaker 2: means that we need to learn to master our emotions.
Speaker 2: When we can learn to master our emotions, we get
Speaker 2: free will. We get soul sovereignty. It's not that I'm
Speaker 2: sweeping my emotions under the rug and I'm not going
Speaker 2: to deal with them. I'm still going to deal with them.
Speaker 2: But if I can learn how to master my emotions
Speaker 2: and create an outlet when it's appropriate, we get free will,
Speaker 2: soul sovereignty. We also get wisdom and discernment. We don't
Speaker 2: have these knee jerk reactions to certain situations. Let's say,
Speaker 2: you know, especially because I'm watching it, I literally I
Speaker 2: sort of got I'm sitting at night eating popcorn watching
Speaker 2: the shit shows.
Speaker 1: Right, it's like, no, don't do that.
Speaker 2: Do that, but master emotions and then things don't bother
Speaker 2: you so deeply you can walk away. You can also
Speaker 2: discern does that person really mean it this way?
Speaker 1: Are they having a bad day? That kind of stuff. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I just did a video recently about that they rely
Speaker 1: on unknee jerk reaction, Yes, they do, and they a lot.
Speaker 1: They rely on the fact that they know most people
Speaker 1: don't have emotional intelligence because we're not really taught that
Speaker 1: growing up. So that's something that you have to come
Speaker 1: to on your own through a spiritual awakening. And now
Speaker 1: everyone's there, and even the people that are on this
Speaker 1: spiritual journey, they're not. We're not all perfect, right, We're
Speaker 1: still learning and we all get triggered and that's a
Speaker 1: lesson for us.
Speaker 2: And there's no learning in perfection. Right, So everybody that
Speaker 2: says they're perfect and living a perfect life, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure you lie.
Speaker 1: Right or absolutely? And I see some of those people,
Speaker 1: the people that they think they've reached the end and
Speaker 1: figured it out and then now you have to catch
Speaker 1: up and like, oh, I hope that one day you
Speaker 1: find the happiness that I found. You know, it's like, no,
Speaker 1: don't even know me now.
Speaker 2: And you know, when we come when we think about
Speaker 2: all things spiritual, spirituality should never be a contest, because
Speaker 2: once spirituality is a contest, it's not very spiritually benevolent anymore,
Speaker 2: you know, not at all.
Speaker 1: And that's yeah, yeah, and the dark knows that. Just
Speaker 1: to bring it back to the subject matter here, they
Speaker 1: know that, and they exploit that and they take advantage
Speaker 1: of it, and that's how they get in. And sometimes
Speaker 1: we know, we've known people for years and suddenly you
Speaker 1: know you're on this spiritual journey, but you see them
Speaker 1: kind of on that hamster wheel. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: they're not themselves anymore, and they'll turn on you or
Speaker 1: they'll betray you. And because it's no longer them in
Speaker 1: the driver's seat, it hurts, right, it really hurts. I
Speaker 1: remember a couple of years ago, I'm literally going through
Speaker 1: a divorce and I have a business partner and she
Speaker 1: totally turned on me during the divorce. The last person
Speaker 1: on the earth that I would think that would do
Speaker 1: this to me, right, And it was heartbreaking, But I
Speaker 1: learned a lot nobody's above that spiritual guys, basically absolutely.
Speaker 1: And when you're not actively doing stuff every day to
Speaker 1: make sure, like practice good energetic hygiene and stuff, that's
Speaker 1: when these things take over and they can put those
Speaker 1: thoughts and negative thoughts in your head and you turn
Speaker 1: on your best friend. And what happens is you start
Speaker 1: pushing away everyone in your life that loves you, that
Speaker 1: could actually help you out of that. Yeah, because that
Speaker 1: demon knows what it's doing. Absolutely, they know more than
Speaker 1: we know. Yeah, it pushes away all the help and
Speaker 1: then they isolate you, They cut you off from your circle,
Speaker 1: and then they just harvest your life force. And I see,
Speaker 1: I know people in my life it look like they've
Speaker 1: aged thirty years in three years. And unfortunately that's just
Speaker 1: and they put thoughts and false memories into their head
Speaker 1: and they're not they're not their own thoughts, you know,
Speaker 1: and they're not a lot of times they're not even true.
Speaker 2: And when we can remember that from that perspective, it
Speaker 2: takes the pain away, and it takes the emotion away,
Speaker 2: and it's like, Okay, I just have to back off.
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then a lot of times they don't know
Speaker 1: what they're doing. They don't even know what they're doing
Speaker 1: because they've been overridden. Yeah, and that's what that's the
Speaker 1: kind of bringing home here. That's the whole purpose of
Speaker 1: what you do, right because we don't want to see
Speaker 1: people get to that place. But unfortunately we're seeing a
Speaker 1: lot of that right now. And this is why you
Speaker 1: have to do the shadow work. Otherwise you could end
Speaker 1: up like you could end up being taken over and
Speaker 1: over run.
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't want that for anybody, not
Speaker 2: even for that ex business partner or etcess or whatever.
Speaker 2: I want them to have the best I want, but
Speaker 2: we all have to earn it and work for it.
Speaker 2: But if we feel like if we feel like we're
Speaker 2: sort of sort of slipping backwards in certain elements, or
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I have all these unexplained dramas
Speaker 2: around me, there's something else going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is all a telltale sign. Okay, I
Speaker 1: need to step back and take a closer look at
Speaker 1: what's going on here? What am I doing is allowing
Speaker 1: this to happen. Most people aren't reflecting like that. It
Speaker 1: takes hyper self awareness to really navigate these times. And
Speaker 1: once you do, then you can question everything and and
Speaker 1: pull yourself out of it before you get sucked in
Speaker 1: too deep.
Speaker 2: Absolutely question. Even if you're going to hire a spiritual practitioner,
Speaker 2: feel free to ask them a question before you pay
Speaker 2: them a dime or have a session with them. How
Speaker 2: do you clear yourself between clients? Or how do you
Speaker 2: do this or that? Whatever your question is asked beforehand.
Speaker 2: If you don't like the answer, run seriously, run sometimes
Speaker 2: run fast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So let's finish this up with a I
Speaker 1: want to hear a good Layer Van Tyne story. Did
Speaker 1: you come Have you ever come face to face with
Speaker 1: gray and reptilian something in your physical waking reality? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, like all right in this one. So
Speaker 1: if you certainly run into this type of stuff, and
Speaker 1: it's not just in the astrol realm, No, it's not. So.
Speaker 2: I have seen people shape shift in front of me.
Speaker 2: But the scariest thing I ever had happened to me,
Speaker 2: which I don't think i've ever shared live. It was
Speaker 2: a number of years ago. I was sleeping and then
Speaker 2: I sleep paralysis, and I am now inside this church
Speaker 2: type of place, and it's really big doors and big altar,
Speaker 2: big everything and these big beings and these robes and
Speaker 2: you know, and all the people and the pews are
Speaker 2: on robes too, but these people are human sized like me.
Speaker 2: And I'm in the middle of it, and I look
Speaker 2: up at the altar and this is at the beginning
Speaker 2: of what I'm still like a teacher. I'm still doing
Speaker 2: these things, right, but these paranormal things are coming in
Speaker 2: like crazy, and they're not good. Literally, Hollywood, it was
Speaker 2: like a horflick in our house for years. And so
Speaker 2: I'm in this altar area and then they bring up
Speaker 2: this goat and they put this goat and they tie
Speaker 2: it down on top of the altar and this is
Speaker 2: so real to this day. And we're all giving these
Speaker 2: crystal wands and they're teaching us how to harm these animals.
Speaker 2: There's goats, there's bunnies, there are all kinds of animals
Speaker 2: up there, deer and they're going up in groups of three,
Speaker 2: and you know, triads are interesting, and they're all being
Speaker 2: shown how to do this. If you don't do this,
Speaker 2: they kill you on the spot. And as I'm going through,
Speaker 2: just like oh my god, I can't do this, I
Speaker 2: can't do this, I can't do this. I start working
Speaker 2: my way backwards, and I see this tiny crack in
Speaker 2: this huge door and this was like an off world
Speaker 2: metal door, like twenty feet tall, and I slipped out.
Speaker 2: And the minute I did, and I wake up and
Speaker 2: I sit up, and my heart's beating, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: where am I all this stuff?
Speaker 1: And then I don't sleep at all.
Speaker 2: And then on my nightstand, I happen to have this
Speaker 2: like six or seven inch crystal smoky quartz crystal wand
Speaker 2: that was just on my nightstand. Half of it's missing,
Speaker 2: really just disappeared half of the half of it. It
Speaker 2: was like somebody broke it and took a hat. Oh wow,
Speaker 2: you can't you You felt crystal wands, they're heart right, yeah.
Speaker 2: And the floor was carpeted. I moved every piece of furniture.
Speaker 2: I've never found it, but that crystal wand took a
Speaker 2: hit for me.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: I have that crystal wand if I had it here,
Speaker 2: I would show it to you, but it's at home.
Speaker 2: But that thing saved my life. Wow, that was my
Speaker 2: scariest moment. But yes, I have seen shape shifters. I
Speaker 2: have seen you know, all kinds of things happen. You know,
Speaker 2: people morphing into something that is there, true being that
Speaker 2: was not as scary as that moment in time for
Speaker 2: me interesting because I had to make a choice. If
Speaker 2: I would have complied out of fear, they would have
Speaker 2: owned my soul. That was my one of my defining
Speaker 2: moments of like nope, not today.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I've heard a number of stories similar to
Speaker 1: that where it's like this, You're at this crossroads, like
Speaker 1: where it's one wrong decision and they got you right,
Speaker 1: yeah for good, you know, maybe not for good, but
Speaker 1: it's as well. Really long time.
Speaker 2: I think if I would have complied, my life would
Speaker 2: be very different and I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing,
Speaker 2: And I think I would have ended up being some
Speaker 2: type of black magician without knowing it, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's how they do, and they show up and
Speaker 1: the guys of the tricks your energy of a false light,
Speaker 1: which is please beware now everyone out there preaching love
Speaker 1: and light is of love and light and especially something
Speaker 1: I know. I had an experience with this girl. She
Speaker 1: has a famous YouTube channel where she does these meditations
Speaker 1: and these healings and stuff, and in fact what she
Speaker 1: maybe she does know that she's doing it, but what
Speaker 1: she when you consent and press play and you open
Speaker 1: yourself up to that meditation or that actor. Yes, it
Speaker 1: was actually consent for it was opening a door for
Speaker 1: something dark to come in and take from you instead
Speaker 1: of healing you. But it's sold to you as a healing.
Speaker 2: It's this is tricky, right, because we subconsciously, unconsciously give permission.
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of these binaural beats and meditations
Speaker 2: on YouTube in general for that reason. Right, Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: other things that we can do. Doctor Mussuro Emoto messages
Speaker 2: and water. I'm gonna kind of go off a little
Speaker 2: tangent before we end here, showed us that frequencies change,
Speaker 2: water shape crystals.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: What he learned and the music that he would play
Speaker 2: was that Mozart music created the most symmetry, the most
Speaker 2: golden light. So go back to basics. If that worked
Speaker 2: for Musuroimoto, it's going to work for me. Maybe I
Speaker 2: just play Mozart music in my house.
Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, it's a great point, actually, yeah. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: not to take away from like there are good there's.
Speaker 2: Good stuff out there, but you really got to make
Speaker 2: sure you know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Before you make don't just scroll across a random video
Speaker 1: and say I'm gonna try this panditation like know the person,
Speaker 1: you know if you can. But now that's a great
Speaker 1: point about the classic music. I absolutely agree with that.
Speaker 1: It combats my control, you know, Gregorian Chance, a lot
Speaker 1: of this stuff, it can it can just cast the
Speaker 1: e means out of here, like they.
Speaker 2: Look Bugio frequency. We have a lot of tools at
Speaker 2: our disposal.
Speaker 1: We just have to know about them, right and that
Speaker 1: and they know that. That's why they got rid of
Speaker 1: the bells and that's why we're not tall about this
Speaker 1: stuff because it is really like it's a warfare soul
Speaker 1: in our mind, but it's frequency warfare. It's done through frequency,
Speaker 1: all of it. Everything's ay, everything is frequency vibrating at
Speaker 1: different rates, you know. So yeah, that's a nutshell sound. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sound frequencies are amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do a lot, and they echo out for
Speaker 2: in perpetuity too. It's not that they just stop. This
Speaker 2: is look at us like a you throw a pebble
Speaker 2: in the water and the ripples go out over and
Speaker 2: over and over.
Speaker 1: It's the same concept with sound right precisely. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: let our audience know where they can find Oh, thank
Speaker 1: you yeah, and just all the stuff.
Speaker 2: You have Moravantie dot com, V A, N, T, Y
Speaker 2: and E. On my website I have Every week I
Speaker 2: write a blog and they're designed to be helpful. I
Speaker 2: offer services. I offer a lot of different elements because
Speaker 2: we need to make the world a better place period.
Speaker 2: So thank you, thank you for having me on. It
Speaker 2: has been fun to see you guys too in person
Speaker 2: versus the zoom stuff.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, thank you for being here. And are
Speaker 1: you offering sessions at this time?
Speaker 2: I do offer sessions spiritual consultations, which could be anything
Speaker 2: that somebody's seeking, entity removals, I do regressions and that
Speaker 2: type of stuff. So those are pretty much big buckets
Speaker 2: and clearing land and homes and stuff, because sometimes it's
Speaker 2: the energy of the land that is contaminated that we needed.
Speaker 2: So we work together as a team. You may think
Speaker 2: something is needed, but maybe we find something else that
Speaker 2: supersedes everything and cleans it all up. So the idea
Speaker 2: is is that I don't want people to have to
Speaker 2: keep relying on psychic mediums over and over and over.
Speaker 2: It gets expensive and it takes away your personal power.
Speaker 2: So I do it in a way where we get
Speaker 2: to keep our ear power and move forward. So thank you, yeah,
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 1: And he reminded me of something. I'm gonna share a
Speaker 1: quick story. I was in Saint Louis. I grew up there,
Speaker 1: born and raised, and I had been trying to move
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. I put my house up
Speaker 1: on the market or for sale by owner for a while,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't selling. It was like it was like
Speaker 1: Saint Louis was just trying to pull me back, you know,
Speaker 1: because I knew my soul. It's like the next step
Speaker 1: for my soul's evolution required me to move for me, okay,
Speaker 1: but they kept trying to pull me back in, and
Speaker 1: I was like, God, like, what something's off. I could
Speaker 1: feel it. I'm like, something is stopping the sales. It's
Speaker 1: just not letting the meet of my house. I had
Speaker 1: somebody come over and clear the land and we it
Speaker 1: was late at night, and she went around. There was
Speaker 1: certain spots that she was clearing, and but one spot
Speaker 1: in my backyard it was dark and it was this
Speaker 1: thing that had set up shopped there and it was
Speaker 1: basically casting in net over my whole house. And she
Speaker 1: started doing whatever it was she did, and this thing.
Speaker 1: It was physically. I saw it physically. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like hiding in this bush and it freaked. This black
Speaker 1: entity it couldn't stay. It like screamed and flew out
Speaker 1: of this bush. And when it did, I watched this dark,
Speaker 1: cloudless entity fly up and just like fly away. But
Speaker 1: as it did, it scared like the birds away like
Speaker 1: the bird like. It was enough to where the birds
Speaker 1: flew away and could and con see they know it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I watched this thing get cast away from my
Speaker 1: land and then very shortly after that, my household and
Speaker 1: everything changed. It makes a difference, Yeah, but you have
Speaker 1: to consider that type of stuff because it was Saint
Speaker 1: Louis had become my hamster wheel. It was a trap.
Speaker 1: I had become stagnant there and I was just going
Speaker 1: through the motions in life. I wasn't growing anymore and
Speaker 1: it was time to move. And the darkness that was they.
Speaker 2: Didn't there to stop. Heaven forbid that you move and
Speaker 2: grow and do the next level of what you need
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's their job. The how many homes have
Speaker 1: someone like that keeping them in that trap.
Speaker 2: I have real estate agents with speed that I'm on
Speaker 2: Speed out for seriously, homes that don't sell or go
Speaker 2: in and out of us grow often there's something else happening.
Speaker 2: You clear the home, and every time I do this,
Speaker 2: I swear that the home sells within a week with
Speaker 2: a really fastest grow. It's kind of crazy. I've worked
Speaker 2: on developments and entire developments where the land is having issues,
Speaker 2: the contractors are the construction guys are you know, getting
Speaker 2: harmed and they're falling off a ladder or this is
Speaker 2: breaking or that's breaking and it it's real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just it's another thing to consider that
Speaker 1: we don't consider because we're not taught. So yeah, this
Speaker 1: has been fascinating. Thank you so much. Thank you thanks
Speaker 1: for having me. Yeah yeah, first, and thank you guys
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