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Speaker 1: Is your host, Brannan Howe.
Speaker 3: And welcome to the broad Past.
Speaker 4: Glad you're with us on this Wednesday night, August nineteenth.
Speaker 4: I'm holding the book by jd Vance Communion. I talked
Speaker 4: about it on radio and TV today. We got a
Speaker 4: big response. We had on Carl tikrib for the last half,
Speaker 4: we got a big response. I just scratched the service.
Speaker 3: I didn't get all the way through the book.
Speaker 4: I've marked it up and I called Patrick Wood last night.
Speaker 4: I said, I got the book and I'm reading it
Speaker 4: and this is a real problem. On page two sixty two,
Speaker 4: the vice president says that he talks to the dead.
Speaker 4: He calls it the temple of the dead. He goes
Speaker 4: to the family plot cemetery to talk to his dead relatives,
Speaker 4: and he bought it so that his kids would have
Speaker 4: a place to quote, visit and speak to their ancestors
Speaker 4: end quote.
Speaker 3: He also talks about how.
Speaker 4: He feels about a Darwinian evolution, the mixture of man
Speaker 4: as animal and divine combined. He talks about his love
Speaker 4: of that which is mystical. He talks about the using
Speaker 4: the power of the government to force corporations to.
Speaker 3: Give a livable wage. Who defines that.
Speaker 4: I'm going to play a clip for you tonight with
Speaker 4: Patrick Wood where the Vice president's actually talking about using
Speaker 4: the power of the government to take away the property
Speaker 4: and resources of people we don't agree with, if they
Speaker 4: are against our issues, if they're not with us on
Speaker 4: the cultural war issues, who had just seize their stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm not for doing that.
Speaker 4: Unless it's a national security issue and we're dealing with terrorism.
Speaker 4: Other than that, we're for private property.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: But you got to hear this tonight, folks, because this
Speaker 4: is a real problem. He says many things in here
Speaker 4: that we did not have time to get to today
Speaker 4: during the radio show. So I hope you will tweet, text, email, Facebook, getter,
Speaker 4: true social your family and friends right now, because we're
Speaker 4: going to quote the page combers, We're going to play
Speaker 4: some video clips, and we're going to line it up
Speaker 4: with the Bible and the US Constitution. He mocks, by
Speaker 4: the way, people that believe in the rapture or the
Speaker 4: second Coming. He got enraged. I sat there in a
Speaker 4: silent rage. Why because the pastor was preaching and preparing
Speaker 4: for the second coming of Christ? Really, why would you
Speaker 4: have a rage about that. He also talks in this
Speaker 4: book about how he joined the Catholic Church, which he
Speaker 4: did in about twenty nineteen. But one of the reasons
Speaker 4: he joined the Catholic Church is because he found that
Speaker 4: the Bible was too difficult to understand, too big, too big,
Speaker 4: too complex to understand. So he joined the Catholic Church
Speaker 4: with all of its hierarchy. Well why is it that
Speaker 4: he cannot understand the Bible?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 4: He said, quote the Christian tradition was so rich, the
Speaker 4: Bible is so big and difficult to master that I
Speaker 4: began to see the structure of Catholicism as a benefit,
Speaker 4: not a burden.
Speaker 2: End quote.
Speaker 4: Well why can you not master the Bible? Maybe there's
Speaker 4: lacking the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't be his judge. I'm not
Speaker 3: his judge.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be his judge as far as
Speaker 4: where he is with salvation, but I can judge his doctrine.
Speaker 4: The Lord said you'll know them by their fruits, and
Speaker 4: that was talking about doctrinal fruits.
Speaker 3: This guy, in my.
Speaker 4: Opinion, theologically is a false teacher. He's saying it things
Speaker 4: in here that are wrong. But then on economics, he's
Speaker 4: talking about a power of the government to give a
Speaker 4: living wage, to force a living wage, to force businesses
Speaker 4: to shut.
Speaker 3: Down on certain days and holidays.
Speaker 4: Really, what we're gonna do that for all Hindu religions,
Speaker 4: Islamic religions.
Speaker 3: Christian holidays? We're there? Are we going to do that?
Speaker 4: There's so much in here, folks, And I'm going to
Speaker 4: get to Patrick Wood, So I hope you'll tweet, text, email, Facebook, get.
Speaker 3: Or true social.
Speaker 4: We're going to quote the page numbers and everything. Now, folks,
Speaker 4: I want to see Jade Vance come to know the Lord.
Speaker 4: The Bible says that I desire that no one should perish,
Speaker 4: but all should come to repentance. And I'm going to
Speaker 4: try to stay calm tonight and not get too rowled up.
Speaker 4: But I gotta tell you, I do get rowled up
Speaker 4: when I hear people, particularly a sitting vice president, writing
Speaker 4: a book attacking, as I see it, people that believe
Speaker 4: in Bible prophecy. You want to study it and believe
Speaker 4: in the second Coming and long for it, and believe
Speaker 4: in the rapture. I get rolled up when I see
Speaker 4: and hear people teaching the idea that what we need
Speaker 4: to do is have a bigger government that regulates who
Speaker 4: gets a living wage. I get rolled up when I
Speaker 4: see someone talking about how man is a mixture of
Speaker 4: divine an animal. I get rolled up when I hear
Speaker 4: and read things that I think can deceive people, that
Speaker 4: is misrepresenting.
Speaker 3: My Lord.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to do my best to be as
Speaker 4: calm as I can, but I'm probably gonna get a
Speaker 4: little passionate tonight. You know, Jesus called the false teachers
Speaker 4: of his day white dead men's bones, like white washed
Speaker 4: tombs actually full of dead men's bones.
Speaker 3: He said they were like their father, the devil.
Speaker 4: He said a lot of things to them, people like, well,
Speaker 4: you can't call people names. Well Jesus did, Jesus did.
Speaker 4: I've done a whole series on understanding the insults of Jesus. Fact,
Speaker 4: let me go to before we go to Patrick. While
Speaker 4: you're tweeting, texting, email, what are some of the most
Speaker 4: popular What were what were some of the most popular
Speaker 4: insults Jesus crew.
Speaker 3: At false teachers. Let's ask.
Speaker 4: Let's ask world Viewpedia because I did a whole series
Speaker 4: on understanding the Insults of Jesus. Because you see a
Speaker 4: lot of people today becomes so politically correct that they
Speaker 4: are afraid to call it like it is. You know what,
Speaker 4: We have a lot of people that will write this
Speaker 4: broadcast email letters say I appreciate Brandon because he says
Speaker 4: what I think. He says what I think what so
Speaker 4: many people are afraid to say. Here it is the
Speaker 4: insults Jesus used against false teachers. What a fascinating topic
Speaker 4: based on the Worldview Bible study video series Understanding the
Speaker 4: Insults of Jesus by Brandon House, He called them whitewashed tombs.
Speaker 3: Jesus told them Pharisees.
Speaker 4: They looked perfect and clean on the outside, but they
Speaker 4: were full of dead men's bones on the inside. This
Speaker 4: was deeply cutting rebuke in Jewish culture because touching a
Speaker 4: dead body or grave made a person ceremonially unclean. It
Speaker 4: could require up the seven days of separation and cleansing sermon.
Speaker 4: He said, you strain out a gnat, but swallow a camel,
Speaker 4: meaning they focused on minor religious technicalities while ignoring massive
Speaker 4: spiritual failures. By the way, why did he say you
Speaker 4: strain out a gnat?
Speaker 3: You know why? Because they literally did.
Speaker 4: They would put a claw over their drink and they
Speaker 4: would pour the drink through that filter or claw to
Speaker 4: make sure they did not swallow even a gnat, which
Speaker 4: could cause them to break Jewish requirements. You literally are
Speaker 4: straining out a gnat. And then he said, but you
Speaker 4: swallow a camel. They were literally straining gnats. They understood
Speaker 4: exactly what he was saying. You see, That's why it's
Speaker 4: so important to understand the who is writing, who is speaking,
Speaker 4: who are they speaking to, what's the culture to get
Speaker 4: the context.
Speaker 3: That's how we study the Bible.
Speaker 4: And then our worldview Pedia research assistant says. As Brandon
Speaker 4: points out, these were insults in the traditional sense.
Speaker 3: They were truth.
Speaker 4: The Pharisees were insulted because of their incredible pride and arrogance.
Speaker 4: What Jesus said about them was one hundred percent true,
Speaker 4: whereas the insults hurled at Jesus where one hundred percent lies.
Speaker 4: And then you can watch the series where I'm discussing
Speaker 4: these topics.
Speaker 3: Understand the insults of Jesus, So.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna be name calling just for the
Speaker 4: sake of name calling. But the Bible says that Roman's won,
Speaker 4: They've been given over, and they are fools, and they
Speaker 4: suppressed the truth and unrighteousness. The Bible uses the word
Speaker 4: morons moros moros, it's another word for fool. Professing to
Speaker 4: be wise, they become fools. So tonight, folks, this is
Speaker 4: a very very important program. And I have looked and
Speaker 4: I can find no other broadcaster that has done a
Speaker 4: full review book review of JD Vance's book Communion. But
Speaker 4: we have a little bit today at one o'clock and
Speaker 4: now we'll finish it tonight because we just scratched the service.
Speaker 4: So joining me is going to be Patrick Wood because
Speaker 4: I called Patrick last night said you got to read
Speaker 4: this book, and he went and ordered up the kindle
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Speaker 4: get started. Joemy Now is Patrick wood Woo. We had
Speaker 4: big numbers today for radio and television at one o'clock
Speaker 4: Central lots of emails, lots of texts, lots of people interested.
Speaker 3: In this topic.
Speaker 4: I don't know anyone else that has done a full
Speaker 4: book review of JD. Vance's book Communion. Well I have,
Speaker 4: and I have marked it up friends. And this guy
Speaker 4: I thought was a weird dude before I read his book,
Speaker 4: Now I think he's a dangerous dude.
Speaker 3: I think I already thought he was dangerous, but he's weird.
Speaker 4: He's dangerous in my opinion, theologically, politically, economically, the whole
Speaker 4: nine yeards. He is one weird dude in my opinion.
Speaker 4: And I think he's too chicken to come on our
Speaker 4: broadcast to be honest with you. But maybe he'll prove
Speaker 4: me wrong and show up. I'd be nice, I'd be
Speaker 4: a gentleman. But I don't think he'll like the questions.
Speaker 4: And I don't think he can defend his worldview from
Speaker 4: the despite the fact he keeps talking about himself being
Speaker 4: a Christian in here. Now he admits that he's a
Speaker 4: converted Catholic. He's converted to Catholicism. He's a Catholic. I
Speaker 4: guess he was raised in a Baptist church and whatnot.
Speaker 4: But he is not friendly in my opinion to the Christians.
Speaker 4: He likes to make fun of the Christians. Apparently, from
Speaker 4: what I'm reading, he makes fun of my former Worldview
Speaker 4: Weekend speaker Tim la Hay. He says in the mid
Speaker 4: Patrick's going to join us. He said in the mid
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety he's a wave of prophetic theory. He was
Speaker 4: sweeping through American evangelical churches. Tim Lahay and Jerry B.
Speaker 4: Jingen's blockbuster Left Behind books told the story of an
Speaker 4: impending apocalypse and were widely popular in Dad's church. One
Speaker 4: woman told me I had handsome eyes, which might earn
Speaker 4: me a beautiful wife if the Lord didn't come before
Speaker 4: I was old enough to marry. I'll pick it up
Speaker 4: and let you see what he says about that. But
Speaker 4: the most striking part is this.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: I read it twice today on television at one o'clock. Logan,
Speaker 4: I want you, after I read this, to play the
Speaker 4: re sponse we got on the air when he heard
Speaker 4: it for the first time from our friend Carl tykrib
Speaker 4: his first time response to hearing this because it's so
Speaker 4: authentic and real. All right, Here is what JD. Vance writes.
Speaker 4: The Vice President of the United States on page two sixty.
Speaker 3: Two of his book Communion.
Speaker 4: That's Chapter twelve, page two sixty two, he wrote, quote,
Speaker 4: when I first made some money, I reached out to
Speaker 4: an eighty year old cousin to buy the family cemetery
Speaker 4: in eastern Kentucky. I spoke about this cemetery probably about
Speaker 4: half an acre, in my acceptance speech at the twenty
Speaker 4: twenty four National Convention. Even as Vice President, I try
Speaker 4: to visit at least once a year. It's a beautiful
Speaker 4: part of the country, my favorite part in many ways,
Speaker 4: and I still have relatives there whom I love to see.
Speaker 3: Skipping a paragraph, he.
Speaker 4: Writes, quote, I talked to my grandparents and my great grandparents,
Speaker 4: like patron saints of the episodes and emotions we all
Speaker 4: experience in the course of life. I talk to may
Speaker 4: Maw when I need strength or focus, to Papa when
Speaker 4: I need wisdom. I talked to Mayma's mother, maym Blanton,
Speaker 4: when I need kindness or empathy, and to her father,
Speaker 4: Pop PAUW Blaine, whom I never met, when I need toughness.
Speaker 4: I bought the cemetery for selfish reasons. I wanted to
Speaker 4: preserve this outdoor temple of the dead, for my family
Speaker 4: and the sake of those buried. But I bought it
Speaker 4: for the selfish reasons too. And I bought it for
Speaker 4: selfish reasons too, for the moments of quiet reflection I
Speaker 4: find only in this place unique in all the world.
Speaker 4: I bought it so that when I'm buried, my children
Speaker 4: will have a place to visit and.
Speaker 3: Speak to their ancestors.
Speaker 4: I want to get Patrick Wood's response, But Loogan, how
Speaker 4: did Carl tykerb.
Speaker 3: Respond to that? At one o'clock Central time today?
Speaker 6: What's okay? I'm I'm cyberg acids my goodness. This is JD.
Speaker 6: D answers to the Vice President of the United States.
Speaker 6: This is spiritism. This is flat out spiritism to the dead.
Speaker 2: Answer him, Rollie.
Speaker 6: This is kind of merges right into the realm of
Speaker 6: ancestor worship. This is he wrote that, Yeah, it's a
Speaker 6: wild man. That's wild.
Speaker 4: And can I ask you why why I'm not hearing
Speaker 4: other Christian broadcasters talk about this. I'm not aware of
Speaker 4: any other Christian broadcaster out there talking about this.
Speaker 3: Can you logan? Have you heard it? I went searching to.
Speaker 4: See if I could find another Christian broadcast, couldn't find one.
Speaker 6: Ran that is over the aw My goodness. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 6: kind of speechless. I wish I could give you some
Speaker 6: insights except for the fact that it's obvious it's a spiritism.
Speaker 6: That's that's the realm that he's entered. This is really
Speaker 6: bizarre stuff.
Speaker 3: Do you know who Renee Gerard is? Well, we'll stop
Speaker 3: it right there. There we go.
Speaker 4: We'll get into Renee Gerard here in a moment. Patrick,
Speaker 4: Welcome to the broadcast.
Speaker 3: What do you make of this?
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not surprised. On one hand, he's very
Speaker 2: confused about a lot of issues, especially biblical issues. But however,
Speaker 2: this book Communion, it's it's I think it's directed to Christians.
Speaker 2: It is and I can see Christians reading this book
Speaker 2: and thinking, oh, really sounds like this is a spiritual guy.
Speaker 2: We should get on board with him. That would be
Speaker 2: a dangerous, dangerous mistake. And we'll we'll flesh it out
Speaker 2: maybe in a few minutes. But I think this is
Speaker 2: a stunning revelation into his mindset. And I'll say it
Speaker 2: flat out, this is not the way a Christian talks,
Speaker 2: period and a subject. And I saw so many things
Speaker 2: in the book. I got the book last night when
Speaker 2: you said we ought to talk about it today. I
Speaker 2: was really interested at that point. And what I saw
Speaker 2: so many factual misstatements about the Bible that just stunning.
Speaker 2: Most Christians would not, you know, catch that at all.
Speaker 2: So what what's he Why did he write this book
Speaker 2: in the first place. Well, maybe he's getting ready for
Speaker 2: the run to be the president. I don't know, but
Speaker 2: it's it's clearly uh, you know, sucking up to Christians.
Speaker 2: At this point, he said, so, what's the point, Well,
Speaker 2: to deceive people. That's that's only the only thing I
Speaker 2: can figure out.
Speaker 4: Well, he must have the worst political consultants, in my opinion,
Speaker 4: because if you are writing this book to get ready
Speaker 4: to run for president, and you're writing it to so
Speaker 4: called Christians and you think you're gonna get their vote
Speaker 4: by writing this, he's dumber than he looks, and he
Speaker 4: looks pretty dumb. And I'm not trying to be unkind,
Speaker 4: but this dude's a moron, okay. Jd Vance is a
Speaker 4: romans One fool. I was never impressed with this guy.
Speaker 4: I thought it was a bad choice from the beginning.
Speaker 4: And the more he talks and the more he writes,
Speaker 4: the more he proves to me, he's a Romans one fool.
Speaker 2: I'll agree with you absolutely, But remember the Christian Church
Speaker 2: has been missing their discernment function all along, and there's
Speaker 2: so many people that are just totally deceived practicing stuff
Speaker 2: and the way the world thinks about it at least,
Speaker 2: and so many how many discerning Christians Christian and can
Speaker 2: pick up what we're talking about here your audience, will
Speaker 2: I hope we'll get it. Yeah, I know they will.
Speaker 2: But so many Christians will just buy into this whole thing,
Speaker 2: and they're just go, oh man, this this is the
Speaker 2: greatest thing. You know, people like Bill Johnson, for instance,
Speaker 2: the nar movement right from Reading.
Speaker 3: County, California.
Speaker 2: Right, that's right, they practice this this this thing called
Speaker 2: the grave soaking yep, where you go and lie down
Speaker 2: on some dead guy's grave and somehow get soaked in
Speaker 2: his spirit at whatever that means. I've seen them do this,
Speaker 2: do this. But this, this is basically what what JD.
Speaker 2: Vance is saying here. He say, what, I really don't
Speaker 2: lie down on their grave, but I go to the cemetery.
Speaker 2: I talk to them to get advice, to get spiritual advice.
Speaker 2: So you know what's the difference. Well, the people in
Speaker 2: the nar movement, they'll eat this up completely.
Speaker 3: Well, they sure will.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you something, Patrick, this book was.
Speaker 3: Hard to read.
Speaker 4: It's boring, it's juvenile, it's poorly written, it jumps all
Speaker 4: over the place, and and it discusses things that, frankly,
Speaker 4: are not even interesting. I mean, does really, does anyone
Speaker 4: really care what jd. Vance was thinking as a young
Speaker 4: guy about to go off to Iraq and his personal
Speaker 4: spiritual you know.
Speaker 3: Questions. I really don't care.
Speaker 4: There's nothing inspiring from a biblical perspective here because he
Speaker 4: ends up within the very first chapter, I think hurling
Speaker 4: insults at Bible believing Christians tells us right off the
Speaker 4: bat on page six, I chose to become a Catholic
Speaker 4: for what I believe are good reasons.
Speaker 3: He then.
Speaker 4: So we were like, okay, well, we realize you have
Speaker 4: enough discernment to realize the false teaching of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 4: And by the way, for if you're Catholic, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: we have false teaching the Protestant world as well.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 4: But at least I'm not going to some priest, you know,
Speaker 4: to look for forgiveness or confession. I also don't believe
Speaker 4: that the Christ literally shows up in the wafer and
Speaker 4: is slaughtered over and over and over and over again
Speaker 4: through transubstantiation.
Speaker 3: But that being said, we.
Speaker 4: Got our own problems with the Protestant world, So don't
Speaker 4: be too offended, Catholic friends, because you know, we don't
Speaker 4: have it perfect over here either. We got a lot
Speaker 4: of weirdos and bad theology over here too, So I'm
Speaker 4: not being I'm going to be fair about you know,
Speaker 4: I've spent more time decades writing about the Protestant world
Speaker 4: than I have the Catholic that's for sure, because that's
Speaker 4: where I live and that's what I write on. But
Speaker 4: this guy clearly is not discerning, and he wants to
Speaker 4: tell us somebody his spiritual journey, and he ends up
Speaker 4: in a total theological train wreck. But he can't even
Speaker 4: make it over to page nineteen. He's at page nineteen
Speaker 4: and he's already hurling insults at a huge voting block.
Speaker 3: How dumb is he?
Speaker 4: I mean, we do know, I do know again, this
Speaker 4: is not a you know, maybe he's got a lot
Speaker 4: of books, since I don't care. I know, guys with
Speaker 4: more degrees than a thermometer, they can't make a living,
Speaker 4: so no joke, I really do. They just can't make
Speaker 4: a living, but they got degrees. But this guy clearly
Speaker 4: is such a dingling and his advisors are so stupid
Speaker 4: apparently that he gets to page nineteen and starts hurling
Speaker 4: the insults at potential voters, right, people that you want
Speaker 4: to vote for you, and you're going to start calling
Speaker 4: them out because they believe in the rapture, because they
Speaker 4: study Bible prophecy, because they believe in you know, six
Speaker 4: day creation six thousand years ago, ten thousand years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Did you notice that by page nineteen he's already insulting Christians?
Speaker 2: I did. And you have to remember who is he
Speaker 2: appealing to this book. It's not for not for people
Speaker 2: like you and me who will shred it. You know, we'll, we'll,
Speaker 2: we'll read it. Say this is a bad, bad book,
Speaker 2: poorly written, bad grammar. You know this.
Speaker 3: You saw that, right?
Speaker 2: No, I agree with you. Absolutely. I would not read
Speaker 2: this book. I wouldn't pay for this book on purpose,
Speaker 2: but I did for the kindle version. Right you had,
Speaker 2: you paid for it. Hopefully you paid for it yourself.
Speaker 2: You didn't rip it off somebody.
Speaker 3: I want it I want it, I know.
Speaker 2: So look here's here's the first exception. It's in in
Speaker 2: the the introduction. Maybe maybe you caught this. I caught
Speaker 2: it immediately. The first proposition he comes out of the
Speaker 2: gate in this is I can't well, this is the
Speaker 2: kindle version. But it's in the the the introduction. He says,
Speaker 2: I don't mean to undervalue the core of the Christian
Speaker 2: faith that Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God,
Speaker 2: was born of the Virgin Mary, was crucified for our sins,
Speaker 2: and rose from the dead. Okay, most Christians will say, well,
Speaker 2: that sounds pretty good to be right. Then he says,
Speaker 2: and the same paragraph, salvation is impossible if a man
Speaker 2: fails to reconcile himself too and fight and find peace
Speaker 2: with God. What's wrong with that statement. Well, it's not
Speaker 2: up to man to be reconciled to God. It's up
Speaker 2: to God to reconcile him. This is absolutely diametrically opposite
Speaker 2: of what the Bible says. So we see these contradictions
Speaker 2: over and over in this book. He'll say something that
Speaker 2: sounds kind of right, but then it contradicted, and the
Speaker 2: same breath, this is, this is, this is a mark
Speaker 2: of a deceiver. In my opinion, class class A one deceiver.
Speaker 2: He's but he will he will affect a draw to
Speaker 2: people who want to be uh included in the ecumenical
Speaker 2: movement where Protestants and Catholics can get together and have
Speaker 2: their interfaith dialogue whatever. And so this this is going
Speaker 2: to appeal to that base, not our base. And honestly,
Speaker 2: I think our base is just off off the charts
Speaker 2: for them at this point. I don't think they really
Speaker 2: care about you and me. Basically, we're we believe that
Speaker 2: what the Bible says about the rapture and other things.
Speaker 2: I mean, just we take the whole thing literally, so
Speaker 2: you know, we talk about Bible prophecy, we talk about Babylon,
Speaker 2: et cetera. I don't think these people give a whit
Speaker 2: about us because we're so there worth a small, smaller
Speaker 2: splinter of Christianity at this They're appealing to the big
Speaker 2: tent at this point, the big.
Speaker 3: Tent, indeed they are.
Speaker 4: And I did see that, and I'm glad you brought
Speaker 4: that up because I had forgotten about it. And I've
Speaker 4: got a lot of things marked here that I want
Speaker 4: to talk about that I did not get too on
Speaker 4: radio today because I didn't even get through half the
Speaker 4: book today of the pages that I've marked up that
Speaker 4: I want to discuss with you. But I did notice,
Speaker 4: and I'm trying to find it. I did notice where
Speaker 4: he talks about the fact that he came to realize
Speaker 4: and if it's with what he said there in the opening,
Speaker 4: that grace is not a one time thing, that it's
Speaker 4: something that happens over time for most people. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 4: do you not understand justification and sanctification?
Speaker 3: Grace?
Speaker 4: Amazing grace, I'll sweet the sound that saved a wretch
Speaker 4: like me. It's not is saving a wretch like me,
Speaker 4: You're saved. But he said, grace is I came to
Speaker 4: realize that. I'm gonna find it here while we're talking.
Speaker 4: But he said, grace is something that happens over time,
Speaker 4: like it's a process, like no.
Speaker 3: No, no, here it is.
Speaker 4: He's talking about talking to Father Henry, this Catholic guy,
Speaker 4: this priest.
Speaker 3: This is why we demand that you live.
Speaker 4: A sacrificial life, going to church, taking communion, doing confession.
Speaker 4: This is a process. You don't accept Jesus into your
Speaker 4: heart or get baptized and fix everything that's not the
Speaker 4: promise of the church. The promise of the Church is
Speaker 4: that you are lost and the Church will provide you
Speaker 4: a roadmap to God. The idea of grace as a
Speaker 4: process rather than a single moment was profound to me.
Speaker 4: I realized that I had misunderstood the promise of the
Speaker 4: Catholic I realized I had misunderstood the promise of the
Speaker 4: Christian faith.
Speaker 3: God could save your.
Speaker 4: Soul in an instant, but for most people, the transformation
Speaker 4: of that soul took time and work. I'm sorry. There
Speaker 4: is no work required for salvation. The work is on
Speaker 4: the sanctification side, not the justification side. It's not by
Speaker 4: works lest anyman should boast. It's a gift of God.
Speaker 4: That's grace, unmerited favor. By placing my faith and trust
Speaker 4: in Christ alone in his work on the cross as
Speaker 4: the payment for my sins, and I believe in his
Speaker 4: death is baried this resurrection. And I say, I can't
Speaker 4: say myself, I can't do enough good works to do it,
Speaker 4: but I trust in the substitutionary death of Christ is
Speaker 4: the payment of that sin for me. And when you
Speaker 4: do that brand that's called justification. Grace is applied and
Speaker 4: you're saved. Then comes the works of sanctification. But the
Speaker 4: apostle Paul says that sanctification process ongoing faithful as obedience
Speaker 4: is not for salvation. It's for rewards at the Bamas seat.
Speaker 4: And they'll be tested by fire and that which is
Speaker 4: of wood and stubble, and hey will be burned up,
Speaker 4: though the man himself will be preserved.
Speaker 3: It's are you going to get any rewards?
Speaker 4: Have you invested in the spiritual bank account of heaven
Speaker 4: for rewards? And if you haven't, you're gonna going to
Speaker 4: you know, all you do is temporal things.
Speaker 3: They'll burn up.
Speaker 4: But it's not salvation by works. There's justification than sanctification.
Speaker 4: He says that it's a process. That the idea of
Speaker 4: grace as a as a process rather than a single
Speaker 4: moment was profound to me.
Speaker 3: Did you pick up on that, Patrick, I.
Speaker 2: Did, Yeah, exactly. This this is this is a book
Speaker 2: of deception. And I don't we can't. We can't take
Speaker 2: it any other way. This book is intended to deceive.
Speaker 2: Even if he maybe he didn't intend that. I can't
Speaker 2: imagine not, but you know, I don't think Maybe he said,
Speaker 2: how can I deceive? Everybody in particular. But this is
Speaker 2: this is the outcome this kind of a book, and
Speaker 2: everything that he writes that has a theological theological position
Speaker 2: about behind it, it's twisted some way. It's twisted.
Speaker 4: Yep, let's go to page one nine. Now, let me
Speaker 4: just address at the outset, folks. I'm a little rowled
Speaker 4: up tonight. I'm a little riled up tonight. And the
Speaker 4: reason I'm riled up is because of the thing he said, deception.
Speaker 4: I don't like people being deceived. I don't like people
Speaker 4: being sold a false gospel. And I don't like people
Speaker 4: attacking the Bible or attacking those who believe the Bible.
Speaker 3: So you're right, I get riled up. I don't like
Speaker 3: this guy.
Speaker 4: I don't trust this guy, and you know on this
Speaker 4: broadcast I've said that for a long time prior to
Speaker 4: reading this garbage. In my opinion, this guy is spiritually dangerous,
Speaker 4: economically dangerous, politically danger.
Speaker 3: Any Christian that votes.
Speaker 4: For him after knowing what we've told you tonight, in
Speaker 4: my opinion, is on a fool's Errand.
Speaker 2: Can we just maybe we should just lay out what
Speaker 2: the Bible says about end times deceivers so they can
Speaker 2: make the comparison themselves. Yes, I'm thinking. I have on
Speaker 2: the screen right now a passage from two Timothy chapter
Speaker 2: three versus one to five. Just listen to this. It's
Speaker 2: a little bit. I'll read it. This know also that
Speaker 2: in the last days, pailess times will come. Are we
Speaker 2: in that this right now? I think we are right.
Speaker 2: For men will be lovers of their own cells, covetous boasters,
Speaker 2: proud blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy without national natural affection.
Speaker 2: Truth baker, listen, truth breakers, false accusers, and continent fierce
Speaker 2: despisers of those who are good traders. Heady I high
Speaker 2: minded lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God. And
Speaker 2: listen to this the bottom line, having a form of godliness,
Speaker 2: but denying the power thereof from such turn away. There
Speaker 2: you go. That sums it up completely in my mind
Speaker 2: at this point. Well, we'll have more to say about this,
Speaker 2: I'm sure. But this is the person that's set out
Speaker 2: to deceive people into his way of thinking, and he's
Speaker 2: appealing to all the cults. So we all we track
Speaker 2: already like the new Apostolic Reformation crowd and Doug Wilson
Speaker 2: all these people that the Christian Nationalists, all these people.
Speaker 2: These are the people he he's a feeling to. They're
Speaker 2: the ones that are already deceived, but they're going to
Speaker 2: get more deceived when they listen to him.
Speaker 4: Very well, said Patrick, And I'll tell you something. I
Speaker 4: think he's into communism.
Speaker 2: Light.
Speaker 3: You going to rock your world, folks.
Speaker 4: This guy's not only pushing I think the doctrines of demons,
Speaker 4: talking to the dead. Every what he calls the temple
Speaker 4: what do you call it? The temple of the dead.
Speaker 4: What he called it, Let me go back to get it,
Speaker 4: temple right, Temple of the dead. This dude is pushing
Speaker 4: the doctrines of demons, in my opinion, theologically and again,
Speaker 4: the Vice President is welcome to come on the broadcast.
Speaker 4: I'll be professional, I'll be a gentleman and we can talk.
Speaker 4: But he better bring his Bible because that's what that's
Speaker 4: my foundation. But he won't show up here. He won't
Speaker 4: come on here. Now, this guy, I believe is pushing communism.
Speaker 4: Light My audience knows it as communitarianism, big government versus
Speaker 4: big government merging with big business communitarianism. Henry Lamb, the
Speaker 4: late Henry Lamb, who I started reading and quoting from
Speaker 4: so many years ago who since passed away called it communism.
Speaker 3: Light let me before I get to that, I want
Speaker 3: to go to the fact.
Speaker 4: By page nineteen, he's already insulting folks like Patrick and
Speaker 4: I and others, which is fine, I know whatever, he
Speaker 4: was never going to get my vote anyway. But I'm
Speaker 4: just thinking from a common sense standpoint, why would you
Speaker 4: want to why would you want to offend of influential
Speaker 4: voting block. But then again, maybe he thinks he doesn't
Speaker 4: need what is indeed the shrinking voting block of people
Speaker 4: like Patrick Wood and myself. You know, But here's what
Speaker 4: he writes on page nineteen in the mid nineteen nineties,
Speaker 4: A way of a prophetic theory. Now is that interesting?
Speaker 4: It's prophetic theory. Here's a guy pushing the temple of
Speaker 4: the dead and talking to the dead. But he thinks
Speaker 4: he has the wherewithal to criticize people who study Bible
Speaker 4: prophecy and call it a theory. You know, the Bible
Speaker 4: doesn't say in the Book of Revelation, study this book,
Speaker 4: learn this book, Understand this book, and there'll be a
Speaker 4: blessing if you could understand these theories.
Speaker 3: It doesn't say that.
Speaker 4: The book is filled revelation with symbolism, but often the
Speaker 4: symbolism is described in great detail. The Angel says, come
Speaker 4: and I will show you a mystery. And then the
Speaker 4: mysteries explained, no longer a mystery. But he wants to
Speaker 4: tell us we believe a theory, while he's the dude
Speaker 4: that believes, apparently as a Catholic in transistantiation. Hello, that's
Speaker 4: not a theory, that's a heresy because the Bible's clear.
Speaker 4: He died once or all for the sins of man
Speaker 4: who place their faith in trust in him. It's finished,
Speaker 4: he said, on the cross, debt paid in full. Not
Speaker 4: I'll be back in your wafer. When the priest calls
Speaker 4: me down to die again and again and again and again.
Speaker 4: Reminds me of the song by the Highwaymen. I'll be
Speaker 4: around again and again and again. Remember the highwayman Johnny
Speaker 4: Cash and Willie Nelson.
Speaker 3: And I'm missing two of them. I can see they're
Speaker 3: inter faces.
Speaker 4: So he calls this prophetic, this Bible prophecy. Studying a
Speaker 4: Bible prophecy a theory that's interesting JD. Because Daniel chapter two,
Speaker 4: God gives a revelation to the prophet Daniel who sees
Speaker 4: the kingdoms that are going to come and go after Babylon.
Speaker 4: Guess what they were written about four hundred years before
Speaker 4: they started to happen, which is why the skeptic and
Speaker 4: critics always trying to drag the Book of Daniel about
Speaker 4: four hundred years into the future. Was that a theory
Speaker 4: or was it proven to be historical fact?
Speaker 3: It's fact. JD. W.
Speaker 4: In the mid nineteen nineties, a way prophetic theory was
Speaker 4: sweeping through American evangelical churches.
Speaker 3: Tim Lahay and Jerry B.
Speaker 4: Jenkins Blockbuster Left Behind books told the story of an
Speaker 4: impending apocalypse and were wildly popular in Dad's church. One
Speaker 4: woman told me, I had handsome eyes, which might earn
Speaker 4: me a beautiful wife if the Lord didn't come before
Speaker 4: I was old enough to marry. A family member purchased
Speaker 4: the popular televangelist John Hagey's Prophecy Study Bible, which fused
Speaker 4: Hagey's prophetic theory with relevant passages from the New King
Speaker 4: James Bible. I watched telecast by Hagey and how Lindsey,
Speaker 4: another famous apocalypse theorist. I became convinced the world would
Speaker 4: end in two thousand and seven at the latest end. Quote, Well,
Speaker 4: that's his problem. I don't think how Lindsay or Tim
Speaker 4: lah Hay, we're telling you the world was going to
Speaker 4: end in two thousand and seven, So jd if you
Speaker 4: believe that, that comes from your own lack of discernment.
Speaker 3: But isn't it interesting. I don't have to agree with
Speaker 3: everything Hagey.
Speaker 4: He stands for John Hagey, and I don't agree with
Speaker 4: his more prosperity gospel, but I've heard John Hagey teach
Speaker 4: very well on Bible prophecy and certain passages and get
Speaker 4: it actually right. I'm sure I can find places where
Speaker 4: I would not agree with him, and I don't agree
Speaker 4: with his more prosperity gospel message at all, but I've
Speaker 4: heard him actually lay out the Bible in Bible prophecy,
Speaker 4: and from a standpoint of using proper tools of interpretation,
Speaker 4: he gets it right. Now when it comes to how Lindsay,
Speaker 4: that's another guy. I don't have to agree with how
Speaker 4: Lindsay on everything. I went saw How Lindsay's movie as
Speaker 4: a child, The Late Great Planet Earth. But how Lindsay
Speaker 4: did a great job in explaining Bible prophecy.
Speaker 3: Did I always agree, No, but.
Speaker 4: To call him another famous apocalypse theorist. Why because he's
Speaker 4: telling you that we're headed toward this great culmination of
Speaker 4: a battle between God and Satan, and we're also headed
Speaker 4: for the battle of Armageddon, and then we're headed to
Speaker 4: another great battle at the end of the millennium. I'm sorry, JD.
Speaker 4: If you don't understand your Bible, that's your problem, not us. Well,
Speaker 4: why do you want to insult Tim Lahay or al
Speaker 4: Lindsay as apocalypse theorist. It's not theory if when you're
Speaker 4: studying the Bible using scripture, to interpret scripture as scripture,
Speaker 4: to confirm the scripture.
Speaker 2: Yes, but think about the people, all the pastors in
Speaker 2: the country who have basically put Bible prophecy on the side,
Speaker 2: they won't teach it. I mean we're talking probably eighty
Speaker 2: plus percent of all the churches, all evangelical churches in
Speaker 2: America have abandoned Bible prophecy. Okay, So JD comes along
Speaker 2: and makes now the proposition that, well, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: it's just a theory. And so all these pastors who
Speaker 2: are all you know, getting rid of the Bible prophecy
Speaker 2: in the first place, they oh, he agrees with us,
Speaker 2: we agree with him. Maybe we should look further into
Speaker 2: what he's saying. See, this is appealing. This book is
Speaker 2: appealing to people who may be on the fence as
Speaker 2: far as deception is concerned. In fact, there are probably
Speaker 2: lots of pastors around the country who are probably still
Speaker 2: teaching the Gospel, like the simple, the basic form of
Speaker 2: the Gospel, but they won't teach Bible prophecy. These I
Speaker 2: call these defence sitters. They're not purely teaching the whole Bible,
Speaker 2: but they get at least you can get there and
Speaker 2: get saved there in the church, but you won't get
Speaker 2: anything else. So this whole thing appeals to all these
Speaker 2: Christians who are following those types of pastors. And my
Speaker 2: guess is this could be wildly successful for him as
Speaker 2: a draw to himself. You might remember the book The
Speaker 2: Shack that was released several years ago. What's the name
Speaker 2: of the author? I can't remember his name.
Speaker 3: I remember this was this.
Speaker 2: This was the most blashemous book that I've ever read.
Speaker 2: I won't even say anything about it otherwise, but this
Speaker 2: book hit the Christian scene. Believe it or not, it
Speaker 2: was It was introduced into the Christian world by a
Speaker 2: pastor I won't say who it is, but a pastor
Speaker 2: who was a friend of this guy and he he
Speaker 2: he let that let him have an audience in the church,
Speaker 2: and the book took off all of a sudden, just
Speaker 2: took off. It sold millions of copies around the world.
Speaker 2: The shack is called don't read it, it's a it's
Speaker 2: a pit. But that appealed to people who were on
Speaker 2: the fence and they could tell a difference between deception
Speaker 2: and this truth. It took a lot of people away
Speaker 2: and just took them to destruction, if you will. This
Speaker 2: is this is the kind of book we're dealing with here.
Speaker 2: I think it's that deceptive and people will read it
Speaker 2: with their own skew. Remember we're talking about the type
Speaker 2: of Christian who doesn't have any respect for bi prophecy
Speaker 2: at all. These kind of people will read a book
Speaker 2: like this and say, you know what, this guy makes sense.
Speaker 2: I can follow him. And yeah, you'll follow him all
Speaker 2: right into the pit in the end. But this is
Speaker 2: this is the danger in this kind of a book.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to probably get read the whole thing
Speaker 2: cover to cover. I think I'm going to get the
Speaker 2: physical books. I like the physical book, but I think
Speaker 2: I'm going to read this thing just to make sure
Speaker 2: that I'm on the right track here. If this is
Speaker 2: a major book of deception that's being offered to the
Speaker 2: church at this point, we need to sound the alarm.
Speaker 2: That's all I can say. We need to we need
Speaker 2: to warn people stay away. Well, you can read the book,
Speaker 2: but stay away from the the doctrine, Senate, don't take
Speaker 2: it as gospel truth for sure, and sharpen your pencil,
Speaker 2: get out of your Bible, and you know, look at
Speaker 2: it with a John Desie Well.
Speaker 4: I can tell you, after doing some research, I can
Speaker 4: find no evidence.
Speaker 3: To the contrary of this statement.
Speaker 4: Jade Vance appears to be the first Vice president, sitting
Speaker 4: vice president of the United States to ever write a
Speaker 4: book while as a sitting vice president that attacks dispensational Christians.
Speaker 4: I can find no other VP that ever did that
Speaker 4: as a sitting VP.
Speaker 3: Ever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Ronald Reagan would have never done that.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think al Gore would have done that. I
Speaker 4: think being from the state of Tennessee, al Gore and
Speaker 4: these other folks on the Democrats, I would have understood,
Speaker 4: well enough, that's a voting block that I need. Yeah,
Speaker 4: here's what he writes too, Yeah, yea.
Speaker 2: But Jade Vance, remember whatever he was before being vice president,
Speaker 2: he's been drawn into the cesspool, the spiritual cesspool in Washington,
Speaker 2: d C. With all the people surrounding Trump and like
Speaker 2: PAULA White and Doug Wilson and people like that, the
Speaker 2: nar movement and all the reconstruction crowd and the Dominuus crowd,
Speaker 2: all these people, this is where he's been sucked in
Speaker 2: to and undoubtedly it's going to have an effect on him,
Speaker 2: even if he doesn't say it outright, it's going to
Speaker 2: affect him because this is his political fishing pool at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 4: Well, he writes on page twenty seven, just before I
Speaker 4: left for Iraq, attended a service at my sister's church,
Speaker 4: page twenty seven. The sermon that Sunday focused on the
Speaker 4: end times and why every person present must be prepared
Speaker 4: for the second Coming of Christ.
Speaker 3: I sat there in a silent rage.
Speaker 4: I looked around at the churchgoers, happy families and elderly
Speaker 4: couples and children, bored out other minds.
Speaker 3: Who are these people?
Speaker 2: I thought?
Speaker 3: Did they know any narcotics? Addicts.
Speaker 4: Did they labor under the crushing weight of loss and
Speaker 4: grief and worry? Had they, like me, ever, abandoned their
Speaker 4: families during their time of greatest need? I hated all
Speaker 4: of this, the complacency and the irrelevant sermons about the rapture?
Speaker 3: Ut JD.
Speaker 4: Can I help you out here, Betty boy, There's a
Speaker 4: difference between the rapture and the Second Coming.
Speaker 3: Okay, Apparently you don't know that.
Speaker 4: Because you just said you were sitting there listening to
Speaker 4: an end time sermon about the second Coming of Christ,
Speaker 4: and then you said you hated all of this, this
Speaker 4: complacency and irrelevant sermons about the rapture.
Speaker 3: I don't think JD knows the difference between the Second Coming.
Speaker 2: And the rapture.
Speaker 4: Okay, Jady, you're writing about things in which you have
Speaker 4: no knowledge. Okay, but why would you go out of
Speaker 4: your way again to say that that there's something wrong
Speaker 4: with a sermon on the second Coming of Christ. Christ
Speaker 4: is the blessed hope. One of the signs of a
Speaker 4: believer in John chapter the second Book of John, John
Speaker 4: chapter two are second John.
Speaker 3: Second John.
Speaker 4: One of the hallmarks of a Christian and Second John
Speaker 4: is they long for the Return of the Lord and
Speaker 4: you think it's irrelevant. That speaks to your spiritual condition.
Speaker 4: Of course we already know that because you run around
Speaker 4: talking to the dead. But this guy is also dangerous
Speaker 4: from a standpoint of.
Speaker 3: Who he promotes. In the book.
Speaker 4: He promotes a guy named Renee Gerard. Now we've done
Speaker 4: with him in the past because he's quite popular with
Speaker 4: the tech bros. He's quite popular with Peter Teel And
Speaker 4: in this book he writes about him and he says
Speaker 4: that Peter that Gerard is very rich in his catalog
Speaker 4: of information, very rich. Isn't enough time to get into it,
Speaker 4: but he wants you to know that he thinks that
Speaker 4: this guy is a real rich thinker. Now, if you
Speaker 4: go to worldview Pedia and you do a little research,
Speaker 4: you'll find out who he is. But basically he was
Speaker 4: a French philosopher, and I would say that you could
Speaker 4: describe him as being one that really didn't understand. He's
Speaker 4: a Catholic French fall officer who didn't understand the fall
Speaker 4: of man and said that really what man was suffering
Speaker 4: from was a mimicking of others. He would see what
Speaker 4: others had and he wanted it. Success Or whatever it
Speaker 4: might be, and all of this mimicking this psychological psychiatric
Speaker 4: problem that's being described would end up leading to greed
Speaker 4: and jealousy and violence, etc. He seems to really underplay
Speaker 4: the idea of original sin. I don't know how much
Speaker 4: you've spent studying time you spent studying Gerard Brene Gerard,
Speaker 4: but I've spent enough to know what his worldview is.
Speaker 4: And here's here is jd Vance telling how rich is
Speaker 4: this guy's catalog of information. He also undermines the Gospel
Speaker 4: story and so many other things. I could say it's
Speaker 4: a neo Christianity.
Speaker 3: Would you agree?
Speaker 2: I will? And remember I'm associated with Courtney Turner. That's
Speaker 2: the philosopher of the room. Right. She won't let me,
Speaker 2: she won't let me lose without hearing these things. You know,
Speaker 2: she just fills my cup all the time. But listen
Speaker 2: to what he mentioned Gerard, I think over twenty twenty
Speaker 2: times in book. I can't tell you because I have
Speaker 2: the Kindle version. It doesn't give me the page numbers.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's right, but well, yeah, let me let
Speaker 2: me just read this paragraph to you. This is how
Speaker 2: he explains Girard's position to Gerard. He says, the Christian
Speaker 2: story contains a critical difference from other scapegoats myths, a
Speaker 2: difference that reveals thing quote things hidden sense to foundation
Speaker 2: of the world quote end quote. And the Christian telling
Speaker 2: the scapegoat defeats the judgment of the mob. The victim
Speaker 2: is infinitely powerful, able to prevent his own murder, and
Speaker 2: perfectly perfectly innocent, undeserving of the crowd's rage and violence.
Speaker 2: He submitted himself to death and then he conquered it.
Speaker 2: He's siding with an absolute heretic here, Renee Girard. This
Speaker 2: guy's off the wall, but he thought enough of him.
Speaker 2: And in fact, that's the only intersection philosophically we have
Speaker 2: with Peter Tiel, because Peter Tiel is not he's not
Speaker 2: a Catholic, he doesn't identify with the Catholic Church at all.
Speaker 2: But Gerard was a Catholic, so they both can we
Speaker 2: see the intersection between both of them through Gerard at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 4: So, in other words, Christ becomes basically the victim of
Speaker 4: a mob mentality, then the willing sacrifice for sin.
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, there was no no divine will evolved here.
Speaker 2: There was a mob that killed him.
Speaker 3: Versus I laid down my life willingly.
Speaker 2: I think that's right, he says. J.
Speaker 4: D Vance says, George's thought catalog is rich enough.
Speaker 3: That my summary won't do it justice.
Speaker 2: He's a big fan. He's a big.
Speaker 4: Now let's move to what I think is really communism light.
Speaker 4: I would call it corporate fascism in this book, and
Speaker 4: I got some clips to play as well.
Speaker 2: In this book.
Speaker 3: Jd Vance is really big on the unions.
Speaker 2: He loves the union.
Speaker 4: He also is really big on laws where the government
Speaker 4: is now going to regulate what we can and cannot do.
Speaker 4: When it comes to the holidays, he's very much in
Speaker 4: favor of laws that would shut down businesses on say, Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've caught any of that in
Speaker 4: the book. He says on page two twenty eight, quote
Speaker 4: I supported blue laws, state laws that shut down businesses
Speaker 4: on certain days like Thanksgiving, because these days are sacred
Speaker 4: and everyone ought to be able to participate in them equally.
Speaker 4: In quote wa, he goes to say, quote, but we've
Speaker 4: got a long way to go. In quote, let me
Speaker 4: tell you something. What are you gonna do with the firefighter,
Speaker 4: the police officer, the emergency room, doctor, okay, And the
Speaker 4: government has no business telling a business that you have
Speaker 4: to shut down on Thanksgiving. We live in a free
Speaker 4: market society, okay. And if we're going to shut down
Speaker 4: and have a law that says you have to shut
Speaker 4: down for Thanksgiving and you have to shut down for Christmas,
Speaker 4: well then how long before we're shutting down for the
Speaker 4: Hindu religions or the Islamic religions? And at what point
Speaker 4: are we not becoming a theocracy?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: The free market should decide. Maybe some people are like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to be home for Christmas. I got
Speaker 4: this dysfunctional family. It brings up bad times, bad memories.
Speaker 4: I'm more than happy to work to get through it
Speaker 4: as fast as I can. And you know what, I'll
Speaker 4: take the time in the half or the double time.
Speaker 4: And that's how the free market decides it. Or maybe
Speaker 4: it will say I love Christmas and I'd love to
Speaker 4: be with my family, but I need that extra pay.
Speaker 4: I'll go in and work for that double time or
Speaker 4: time and a half because I need that money to
Speaker 4: pay bills. I needed it to pay for the Christmas
Speaker 4: gifts that went on to the present this morning, under
Speaker 4: the present that went under the tree this morning. The
Speaker 4: free market decides this, not the government. This dude, is
Speaker 4: I believe a You know, all the people run around
Speaker 4: saying magus fascism, No, just certain people in it are.
Speaker 3: And I would say that jd.
Speaker 4: Vance, in my opinion, is a corporate fascist. He's a technocrat.
Speaker 4: Which is fascism true or false?
Speaker 2: It looks like at this point, but remember what we
Speaker 2: needed full He didn't mention Curtis Jarvin in his book.
Speaker 2: I don't think he did at all.
Speaker 3: I have not seen his name.
Speaker 4: He mentioned Peter Dark I was a Christian, But isn't
Speaker 4: Peter Thal also a homosexual?
Speaker 2: He is? Yeah, go figure, and that's not a very
Speaker 2: very plugged in Christian for sure. He doesn't know the
Speaker 2: Bible at all. He talks talking about the anti Christ
Speaker 2: and lectures all over the world, including in ram but
Speaker 2: who knows what he's talking about. But Peter Teal or
Speaker 2: excuse me. Jd. Vance has been a big fan of
Speaker 2: Curtis Jarvin in the Dark Enlightenment. And so when we
Speaker 2: talk when we talk about the philosophy behind in his
Speaker 2: in his mind, when we talk about fascism or other
Speaker 2: even technocracy, you have to you have to ask the
Speaker 2: question what what is he what is he thinking? Is
Speaker 2: he really buying into Curtis Jarvin's theories because Peter Chield
Speaker 2: is obviously Peter. Remember, Curtis Jarvin wants us to ditch
Speaker 2: democracy all the other to completely destroy it and install
Speaker 2: a monarch to run our country. He wants to he
Speaker 2: wants to take all the private property away from people
Speaker 2: and give it to the sovereign corporation, he said. And
Speaker 2: he wants to have a monarch run run the whole
Speaker 2: thing like a startup in Silicon Valley. That's exactly what
Speaker 2: he said. So when he analyze where Vance is coming from,
Speaker 2: we have to take that. In fact, it's not it's
Speaker 2: not just about merging business with government. But it's basically
Speaker 2: the technocrats, the tech bros, that arch technocrats of Washington, DC,
Speaker 2: like Peter Thiel, who basically is supporting the idea we're
Speaker 2: just going to take over everything from top to bottom,
Speaker 2: and we'll tell you what to do, and you just
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 4: And and if they are on the wrong side of
Speaker 4: an issue, we'll just seize your stuff.
Speaker 2: There's there's no you're right, there's no no other you know.
Speaker 3: We have him on audio and video saying that.
Speaker 4: We have JD Vance on videos saying if we don't
Speaker 4: like if you're on the wrong side of a culture
Speaker 4: war issue.
Speaker 3: We'll just seize your stuff.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: Would you like to see it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's look at it.
Speaker 3: Here we go.
Speaker 5: A lot of concernatives that said we should deconstruct the
Speaker 5: administrative state, we should basically eliminate the administrative state. And
Speaker 5: I'm sympathetic to that project. But another option is that
Speaker 5: we should just seize the administrative state for own purposes.
Speaker 7: Why don't we seize the assets of the Ford Foundation.
Speaker 5: Harvard University endowment pays a zero percent tax rate. Maybe
Speaker 5: it's time to tax that endowment, seize the endowment, actually
Speaker 5: penalize these endowments for being on the wrong side of
Speaker 5: some of these cultural issues. But the basic idea here
Speaker 5: is the left season entity that's aligned with the right,
Speaker 5: the left punishes it. The right season entity that is
Speaker 5: aligned with the left, we run away, We refuse to
Speaker 5: do anything.
Speaker 2: That is what we have to stop.
Speaker 3: We have to be willing to actually fight these companies
Speaker 3: with fire.
Speaker 7: I think the basic ideas that we have to seize
Speaker 7: the institutions and make them actually work for our people.
Speaker 7: I tend to think that we should seize the institutions
Speaker 7: of the left and turn them against the left. Right,
Speaker 7: we need like a debatification program, but like a de
Speaker 7: wocification program in the United States.
Speaker 4: Right, Wow, he wants to use the power of government
Speaker 4: to seize the property and bank accountsil groups he doesn't
Speaker 4: agree with.
Speaker 3: How does that any different than left?
Speaker 4: You know, this is a guy on the right doing
Speaker 4: what the left says they want to do, and and
Speaker 4: that is he's so dumb as to realize that once
Speaker 4: you do that, you're gonna have nothing to say when
Speaker 4: the right, when the left does it, when the next
Speaker 4: guy is in power, when the left is empowered, they
Speaker 4: do it. What are you gonna say, j D, I mean,
Speaker 4: where where is thou shall not steal? Okay, we may
Speaker 4: not like what the left is doing, but we have
Speaker 4: this idea in our country of private property and freedom
Speaker 4: of speech, and we don't need to seize their stuff.
Speaker 4: We need to engage in the arena of debate, of
Speaker 4: ideas of debating. But no, he wants to seize their stuff.
Speaker 4: And how well do you think that's going to work out?
Speaker 4: Wind rings?
Speaker 2: If he if he if he, if he disagrees with
Speaker 2: what we're saying here about this, and that you know
Speaker 2: is he is he in a position to say we
Speaker 2: should just seize their stuff in particular because we're we're
Speaker 2: writing a poisoned narrative against him basically, you know, JD. Vance.
Speaker 2: You can see just how scared he is to die
Speaker 2: in this book. I picked this threat up. And here's
Speaker 2: the guy who has probably an inkling that God may
Speaker 2: maybe will be the judge in the end of him personally,
Speaker 2: but he's probably ignoring the whole thing. And if he hasn't,
Speaker 2: if he has a notion that there is a judge
Speaker 2: and at the end of the road and he's going
Speaker 2: to be subject to that, you know, this is the
Speaker 2: suppression of the ages of mankind to try to escape
Speaker 2: the hand of the judge in the end. And he's
Speaker 2: I see this all over this book and all over
Speaker 2: his the things he talks about like this, you know,
Speaker 2: see all these assets of everybody that's crazy.
Speaker 4: His book is just folks, save your money. It's boring,
Speaker 4: is poorly written, it's all over the place. It's the
Speaker 4: ramblings of a guy trying to figure out what he believes.
Speaker 4: It is misinformation, it's it's it's it's juvenile writing.
Speaker 3: It really is. It's juvenile.
Speaker 4: It's the rantings of a of a of a very
Speaker 4: immature person in my belief.
Speaker 3: Would you agree with that?
Speaker 2: I would agree with it. And you know the only
Speaker 2: reason you want to buy the book is to read
Speaker 2: it and then be able to explain the errors in
Speaker 2: the book to your Christian friends who might be in
Speaker 2: that kind of a church, you know that doesn't want
Speaker 2: to talk about Bible prophecy and they think this guy
Speaker 2: is great. Wise him up, you know, to take take
Speaker 2: him chapter and verse, if you will, apart and point it,
Speaker 2: point out in the book where he's wrong, and say,
Speaker 2: don't follow this guy, don't do it.
Speaker 4: Let me go to a clip because I think this
Speaker 4: is also very instructive for his analysis on economics. Watch
Speaker 4: what he says.
Speaker 3: Here's yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2: And by the way, you know, I am.
Speaker 3: It's like maybe super heterodox.
Speaker 7: I am not sure that I think the reserve currency
Speaker 7: is actually good for the United States of America. I
Speaker 7: think there is a good argument the reserve currency status
Speaker 7: is akin to coal in Appalachia.
Speaker 3: It's a resource curse, right.
Speaker 7: It allows your consumers to consume very cheaply.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: That's been the story of the America economy within the
Speaker 7: last fifteen or so years, even before that, is, we
Speaker 7: can just borrow basically in an unlimited way because we
Speaker 7: have the reserve currency.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a stupid statement. Listen to this.
Speaker 7: Consumers to consume very cheaply allows your consumers to consume
Speaker 7: very cheaply.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 7: That's been the story of the America economy with your
Speaker 7: last fifteen or so year years even before that, is,
Speaker 7: we can just borrow basically in an unlimited way because
Speaker 7: we have the reserve currency.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a dumb statement. That shows he doesn't really
Speaker 4: understand economics. Because when you just keep borring money and
Speaker 4: borring money, which we're really not. We're printing it, we're
Speaker 4: buying our own bonds, we're buying our own bonds, we're
Speaker 4: buying our own debt. That doesn't allow the consumer to
Speaker 4: buy cheaply.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 3: That's called inflation.
Speaker 4: And John Mader Keines again said, by this continuous process
Speaker 4: of inflation, we can steal the majority of that people's
Speaker 4: wealth and not one man in a million will know
Speaker 4: what we're doing. It debases your dollar. Borroing money as
Speaker 4: a government over and over and over and over does
Speaker 4: not make the goods cheap for the consumer. He really
Speaker 4: is a dingling. He is an absolute dingling. I'm starting
Speaker 4: to think he probably he may he may not actually
Speaker 4: have earned those degrees. He may have actually been put
Speaker 4: through by the deep state the way I think Obama
Speaker 4: was put through Colombia. Because we've had on, Hey, Logan,
Speaker 4: what's the name of the dude out of Vegas? We've
Speaker 4: had on so many times Wayne Allen Root. Hasn't he
Speaker 4: been on the show several times talking about how he
Speaker 4: was at Columbia the same time Obama was, and Obama's
Speaker 4: nowhere to be found, uh huh. And he was supposed
Speaker 4: to have been there at the graduation, you know, nowhere.
Speaker 4: I think, in my opinion, Obama is a creation of
Speaker 4: the deep state. I don't think he really went through
Speaker 4: those schools. So of those schools and got the degrees,
Speaker 4: I'm not so sure this clown did either, because he
Speaker 4: seems he's so stupid in my opinion, he doesn't even
Speaker 4: understand that he's sitting there saying that good goods are
Speaker 4: cheap for the consumers.
Speaker 3: What when we just borrow, borrow, borrow, barrow.
Speaker 4: Well, that means print, print, print, which means inflation, which
Speaker 4: means the goods aren't cheap.
Speaker 3: Has the moron bought a gallon of milk lately?
Speaker 2: Patrick, I don't know if he drinks milk, but I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: If you disagree with it any I'm saying.
Speaker 2: No, no, I don't. But I wonder if his wife,
Speaker 2: she's a Hindoo. I believe yes she is from what
Speaker 2: I read. I don't know if Hindus drink milk or not.
Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm just.
Speaker 3: Well, they're busy worshiping the cows, so maybe they don't drink.
Speaker 2: Why now, exactly right, they don't kill they don't eat
Speaker 2: steaks for sure.
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 2: Logan?
Speaker 3: Oh, his brother's drinking. Who drinks milk?
Speaker 2: Logan?
Speaker 3: Oh, one of her family members drinks milk?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Oh, he can't drink.
Speaker 4: The cow might be one of the family members. Thank you,
Speaker 4: Come on, thank you, thank you. I'm trying to keep up, logan,
Speaker 4: thank you. I'm getting tired. H Listen to this page
Speaker 4: two forty by Jade Vans quote. Now he's talking about
Speaker 4: the issue of why he's in favor of basically forcing
Speaker 4: companies to provide maternity leave and pay for it. Now,
Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of that. Okay, I was dealing
Speaker 4: business with a dude last week and he wasn't getting
Speaker 4: us a bid, wasn't getting us a bid, wasn't getting.
Speaker 3: Us a bid.
Speaker 4: Finally I found out the dude was on maternity leave,
Speaker 4: and I said, really he had a baby, did he?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: No, his wife did, like, well, good, she can be
Speaker 4: on attorney to leave. He needs to get his rear
Speaker 4: impact to his desk and do his job or do
Speaker 4: it from home.
Speaker 3: But this idea of a.
Speaker 4: Man on maternity leave, are you kidding me? And who's
Speaker 4: paying for that? He's ever as a Central Radio today?
Speaker 3: Do you think John Wayne wasn't on set.
Speaker 4: Because he had to on the Green Berets. I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: but Fellows elect to be there, but I'm on maternity leave. No,
Speaker 4: why is a man on attorney to leave?
Speaker 3: All right? Man?
Speaker 4: Uh, we don't need men being paid to be on
Speaker 4: attorney leave. Okay, you didn't have the baby, and you
Speaker 4: can work from home or whatever your company let you.
Speaker 4: But I shouldn't have to pay for that, nor the woman.
Speaker 4: You want to have a job, great, you want to
Speaker 4: have babies I'm all four people having children.
Speaker 3: But when it's time to have the child, you get
Speaker 3: off work, you take the two.
Speaker 4: Three weeks a month whatever it is you want, and
Speaker 4: you personal time, vacation time, and you go do that.
Speaker 4: But I'm not paying you to do that, and you
Speaker 4: shouldn't force me as an employer to pay for it.
Speaker 4: Well though it's not very noise, Well I'm sorry. We
Speaker 4: don't make laws based on what's nice what's not nice,
Speaker 4: because that's subjective. We make it on the issue of
Speaker 4: private property and your money and your company is private property.
Speaker 4: And if they don't want to pay for attorney to leave,
Speaker 4: then don't work there.
Speaker 3: So the benefits aren't what I want.
Speaker 4: I'll go somewhere else, and you can shop around and
Speaker 4: find an employer that says we'll give you. You're such
Speaker 4: a great employee, your resume looks so great. We'd love
Speaker 4: to have you on our team. We'll pay for attorney leave.
Speaker 4: But another company to say no, I don't want to
Speaker 4: do that, and that's your right. That's a free market. Well,
Speaker 4: listen to what he writes. Just gives you an idea
Speaker 4: of more of what you're in store for. This guy
Speaker 4: becomes president, gets his way, he seems to really want
Speaker 4: to use the power of the government to set up
Speaker 4: his own economic system. This type of he's talking about
Speaker 4: the case for life with all the obligations it implies,
Speaker 4: means less time at work and when having babies is
Speaker 4: a drag on economic activity. The economic gods favor terminating pregnancies.
Speaker 4: And of course it's not just the act of having
Speaker 4: children that we ought not to be concerned about, ought
Speaker 4: to be concerned about, it's spending time with them as well.
Speaker 4: This type of logic exists across the political spectrum, and
Speaker 4: a piece for the libertarian Cato Institute, Vanessa Brown Calder
Speaker 4: makes an argument against mandatory paid parental leave benefits. Quote Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: a review of states and countries with government mandated paid
Speaker 4: leave programs indicates they harm young women, whether they're available
Speaker 4: to fathers or not. This is because parntal leave policies
Speaker 4: are associated with an increase in leave taking and childbearing,
Speaker 4: which leads to lost life or increased healthcare costs for companies.
Speaker 4: In quote, it's just a matter of fact, he says.
Speaker 4: If you think about this argument for a second, even
Speaker 4: a second, it's astonishing. Hey, pernal leave is bad for women,
Speaker 4: and the reason it's bad for them is that it
Speaker 4: might lead to increased labor or healthcare costs for their employers.
Speaker 4: Never have I read a pure, a pure disolation of
Speaker 4: our worship.
Speaker 3: At the altar of commerce.
Speaker 4: Never have I read a pure dissolation of our worship
Speaker 4: at the altar of commerce. Yet, if Colder is to
Speaker 4: be commended for a starkness that borders on psychopathy, much
Speaker 4: of the economic language around children and family comes to
Speaker 4: basically the same conclusion.
Speaker 3: Quote, Wow, the woman is involved in.
Speaker 4: Psychopathy because she's as opposed to the government mandating healthcare
Speaker 4: and what you have to pay people.
Speaker 3: You know what he talks about over and over in
Speaker 3: this book.
Speaker 4: It's the job of the government to make the corporations
Speaker 4: pay a livable wage.
Speaker 3: Who decides what's a livable wage? Patrick m h.
Speaker 4: He says, given out destructive pregnancies children, and policies that
Speaker 4: encourage either of them are we might consider a.
Speaker 3: More modest proposal.
Speaker 4: If large household sizes mean smaller per person consumption, we
Speaker 4: shouldn't just discourage birthing children. We need to do something
Speaker 4: about the ones that are already here. Politicians. Politicians aim
Speaker 4: tax cuts and spending programs that people to give them
Speaker 4: more money to buy things and boost economic growth.
Speaker 3: But we may as well cut all that middleman. Cut
Speaker 3: out that middleman.
Speaker 4: Let's go around to every household and ship their youngest
Speaker 4: child to China. Yes, the separation will inevitably costs some grief,
Speaker 4: but just what we'll do for her capita income. Also,
Speaker 4: American parents, freed from the burden of raising this extra child,
Speaker 4: will be able to spend more time at work win
Speaker 4: when end quote. Of course he's being facetious. That's again
Speaker 4: the juvenile nature of this man. He can't even make
Speaker 4: an argument without going to calling the woman who put
Speaker 4: this out as it borders on psychopathy. And then, oh,
Speaker 4: why don't we just go around complicate people's children to
Speaker 4: send them to China if you're so worried about her
Speaker 4: capita income. Look, we're talking about serious issues of freedom
Speaker 4: and economics and America and private property. But he's already
Speaker 4: told us in this book over and over that he
Speaker 4: wants the government to force all kinds of things, including
Speaker 4: whether or not your company can be open on Thanksgiving
Speaker 4: or any other holiday.
Speaker 3: And he's already told.
Speaker 4: Us, hey, don't you're on the wrong side of the
Speaker 4: culture war. We'll seize your stuff and again, tell me
Speaker 4: how that's not the new aposthelic reformation, reconstructionist, dominionist, Doug
Speaker 4: Phillips and other people, right, Patrick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. You know everybody there.
Speaker 2: There's a song years ago from a group called Tears
Speaker 2: for Fears. The title of the song was everybody wants
Speaker 2: to rule the world. And you know, everybody has their
Speaker 2: own private ideas and what they would do if they
Speaker 2: rule the world. Peter, Peter Tiele and JD. Vatts are
Speaker 2: very closely aligned and their and their philosophy about how
Speaker 2: to rule the world. And uh, this taken all together,
Speaker 2: this would be not not only the kiss of death
Speaker 2: for our country as we knew it in the past,
Speaker 2: but it's it will turn us into basically a scientific
Speaker 2: gulag run by algorithm rhythm where everything is managed, all
Speaker 2: the resources are managed from top to bottom, and you're
Speaker 2: just one of the resources to be managed. And they'll
Speaker 2: take that into into account. You know, how much how
Speaker 2: much output you have versus what inputs that you have
Speaker 2: to have, and if you don't meet make their their
Speaker 2: their equation balance, they'll find out some way to get
Speaker 2: rid of you. This is very the very this is
Speaker 2: the essence of dystopianism.
Speaker 3: It's just loogan. Do we have the video of him
Speaker 3: talking to the dead at the Temple of the Dead. No,
Speaker 3: I tried, it didn't turn out well. All right. Listen
Speaker 3: at page two nine, two nine. One of the jobs,
Speaker 3: here's JD.
Speaker 4: Evans quote. One of the jobs of a Christian statesman
Speaker 4: is to preserve the very social cohesion that makes charity
Speaker 4: and generosity possible.
Speaker 3: No, it's not.
Speaker 4: That's not the job of government. The job of government
Speaker 4: is not to make the make charity and generosity possible.
Speaker 4: The job of government is to reward the righteous, punish
Speaker 4: the wicked, and make a stable andjust society. Nowhere in
Speaker 4: our founding documents to say the purpose of government is
Speaker 4: to impose things on people and companies so that charity
Speaker 4: and generosity is possible. If someone wants to be stingy,
Speaker 4: that's their business. They would be selfish, that's their business.
Speaker 4: Is charity and generosity?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 4: Yeah, But that's not the job of the government to
Speaker 4: run around and monitor or make an environment where people
Speaker 4: can be quote generous or charitable, because again, who defines
Speaker 4: that term. The purpose of government is to allow for
Speaker 4: the practice of individual liberties and freedoms. And sometimes that
Speaker 4: means things we agree with and things we don't agree with.
Speaker 4: And if someone wants to keep all their money and
Speaker 4: not be charitable and not be generous, that's their right.
Speaker 4: They can answer to God for it. It's not the
Speaker 4: government his business to be pushing that on to private
Speaker 4: citizens and businesses. Yeah, and then he quotes the Pope
Speaker 4: Hope Leo the thirteenth, not to be confused with the
Speaker 4: current dude that runs around in a white dress. Hope
Speaker 4: Leo the thirteenth. He defended private property, but with significant limits.
Speaker 4: He wrote earlier about how Pope Leo the thirteenth was
Speaker 4: critical of communism and capitalism.
Speaker 3: Well, what is the alternative?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 4: It's called third way communitarianism. He says, No man, this
Speaker 4: is jade Van speaking.
Speaker 3: Quote.
Speaker 4: No man has the right to deny another a living wage,
Speaker 4: he wrote, speaking about the Pope. And this is one
Speaker 4: reason that Catholics, along with many Protestants, have historically supported
Speaker 4: the right of workers to form labor unions. In quote,
Speaker 4: let me tell you something. If you if you you
Speaker 4: want to form a union, fine, But the problem is
Speaker 4: that when you start using unions and strikes to try
Speaker 4: to break the back of free companies to do what's
Speaker 4: in their right to do, either hire, not hire, or
Speaker 4: give benefits. Certain benefits are not certain benefits. That's again
Speaker 4: an issue of the free market. Then go get a
Speaker 4: job from someone that will give you the extra benefits
Speaker 4: you want. The communists love the unions. He talks a
Speaker 4: lot about how much he loves the unions, how important
Speaker 4: they are. But who again decides. He says, no man
Speaker 4: has a right to deny another a living wage. Who
Speaker 4: defines a living wage? Remember this is the same guy
Speaker 4: that wants to force companies to have to shut down
Speaker 4: on certain days. He goes on to say, when it
Speaker 4: comes to immigration, certain economic skill sets are higher in demand.
Speaker 4: As you can probably tell, I tend to favor a
Speaker 4: low level of immigration in the hope that a period
Speaker 4: of assimilation and integration will lessen the social division of
Speaker 4: modern America. But regardless of where you set the level,
Speaker 4: you might expect a resident of Guatemala City who speaks
Speaker 4: fluent English to contribute more quickly to the United States
Speaker 4: than a resident of Rule Guatemala who can't even read
Speaker 4: or write in Spanish and he goes on a layout
Speaker 4: what his view is on immigration, And again, I think
Speaker 4: where we're going here is you're going to see the
Speaker 4: technocrats want biometrics, open borders and come and go. I
Speaker 4: think that's where we're going. There's so much more here.
Speaker 4: You want to come in on what I just said though,
Speaker 4: about the idea of every no man has a right
Speaker 4: to deny another man of a living wage.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Really? You know Peter til And he's been run
Speaker 2: around talking about the Antichrist and he's criticizing even the
Speaker 2: pope or who has the who has the huspah to
Speaker 2: criticize the pope on anything at least at least the
Speaker 2: public figure like Peter Teal. But uh, what he's talking about.
Speaker 2: What Peter TiAl is talking about, the Antichrist will be
Speaker 2: will be manifested by a one world government or by Ludites,
Speaker 2: that's people who don't like technology, who aim to stop
Speaker 2: or slow technical technological progress. With a subtext and several
Speaker 2: uh pro evocative comments he made at the Aspen Ideas
Speaker 2: Festival in Colorado. This the Aspen Institute is one of
Speaker 2: the major major platforms for global So when he talks
Speaker 2: about the anti Christ being the one who slows technology
Speaker 2: who wants to rein it in. This seems to fit
Speaker 2: this book at this point. He's not saying it this
Speaker 2: way for sure, but it seems to me this whole
Speaker 2: book is written by a man who tend and tends
Speaker 2: to be president. How many people have ever wrote written
Speaker 2: a book before they went run for governor or by
Speaker 2: for president, almost all of them. I think if this
Speaker 2: is if this is his entry into literature as president
Speaker 2: of the United States, we're in big trouble there, big trouble.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I would never vote for this man, he says on
Speaker 4: page one fifty four. The Pope also lays out a
Speaker 4: vision of society where the state protects the vulnerable, guarantees
Speaker 4: a just wage for laborers, who decides that again the
Speaker 4: just wage, and ensures the working people have sufficient rest
Speaker 4: from labor, not for vicious indulgence, but so they can
Speaker 4: focus on higher matters, such as their religious and family obligations.
Speaker 4: People are fundamentally social, so they're mediating institutions, unions, churches
Speaker 4: ought to be prioritized. This is why the Catholic Church
Speaker 4: educates millions of American children every year, and why the
Speaker 4: church's participation in FDR's New Deal coalition was critical to
Speaker 4: building the modern middle class economy of the post war. Well,
Speaker 4: of course, FDR's system didn't build the middle class. It
Speaker 4: destroyed the middle class and kept the war going longer
Speaker 4: with his intervention outlawing gold and then raising the price
Speaker 4: higher and.
Speaker 3: Threatening to throw people in jail that had it. That's right,
Speaker 3: he said.
Speaker 4: Pope Leo explains economic creatures. Pope Leo, People, says Leo,
Speaker 4: are economic creatures who work to earn a living, which
Speaker 4: means that their employers have a duty to pay away
Speaker 4: sufficient for them to live a good life with family
Speaker 4: and children well cared for.
Speaker 3: Again, who decides that.
Speaker 4: Churches will struggle to attract working class people if those
Speaker 4: people are forced to work on Sundays, what do you
Speaker 4: can pass a law? Says this dude is even think
Speaker 4: about what he's writing here.
Speaker 3: And look at this. Listen to this page one nine.
Speaker 3: This seemed right to me and still does.
Speaker 4: Human nature is one of the contradictions of the animal
Speaker 4: merging with the divine and a complicated, messy biological form.
Speaker 4: He clearly believes in Darwinian evolution by the way he
Speaker 4: talks about that at the beginning of the book, But
Speaker 4: let me read that again.
Speaker 3: This seem right to me, and still does.
Speaker 4: Human nature is one of the contradictions of the animal
Speaker 4: merging with the divine in a complicated, messy biological form.
Speaker 4: The second view of man was a consciousness and civilization,
Speaker 4: where a sort of accident of evolution that we came
Speaker 4: upon higher mental functions because they were useful for survival.
Speaker 4: But the creation story tells us we are both animal
Speaker 4: and divine on purpose a purpose. To be fair, we
Speaker 4: can't fully understand.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: I can argue either side of this debate. Were these
Speaker 4: parts of us called to beauty accidental to mother nature
Speaker 4: and evolution, or were they part of some cosmic design.
Speaker 4: Both seem plausible. In other words, I guess he's into
Speaker 4: the maybe Darwinian evolution, maybe theistic evolution.
Speaker 3: God used it.
Speaker 4: But in the process he opens the book again by
Speaker 4: being sure to ridicule those who believe in a six
Speaker 4: day creation, and then he goes on to say that
Speaker 4: we're a mixture of the divine with an animal. He said,
Speaker 4: on page thirty two, we talked about the theory of
Speaker 4: evolution and how I've been an advocate of Young Earth
Speaker 4: creationism as a teenager before realizing the superiority of Darwinian theory.
Speaker 3: Then he likes to talk about Chivo. Remember Terry Schivo.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, that's right, Yeah, he did talk about her.
Speaker 4: He mentions her twice in the book, if I can
Speaker 4: find the second time. He mentions her twice in the book,
Speaker 4: which is really interesting because.
Speaker 3: He apparently believes that.
Speaker 4: The whole Terry Schivo thing was basically a tempest in
Speaker 4: a teapot. And I'm like, no, because that was setting
Speaker 4: down legal precedents, and in a society where unfortunately we
Speaker 4: don't go with the original tint of the Founders, we
Speaker 4: go now with case law theory. That was setting down
Speaker 4: case law at the very beginning of the book, he says,
Speaker 4: page twenty nine. By the time I landed in Iraq
Speaker 4: in August of two thousand and five, people at home
Speaker 4: had largely forgotten about Terry Shaibo. But I hadn't, and
Speaker 4: I continue to stew on it. It's hard to say precisely.
Speaker 4: What about the news coverage of the story so bothered me.
Speaker 4: It seemed like essentially a family dispute, the courts allowing
Speaker 4: for the youth active euthanasia of a young woman who
Speaker 4: recognized a balloon, and her eyes followed it. And when
Speaker 4: people she loved came in the room, and the courts
Speaker 4: are going to allow her murder is a family dispute.
Speaker 3: Quote.
Speaker 4: I was sympathetic to the moral worldview of the people
Speaker 4: who wanted to save her life. But to my younger self,
Speaker 4: the grand standing and media circus seemingly revealed a religious
Speaker 4: movement divorced from the day to day concerns of the faithful.
Speaker 4: I felt there was something a little off about obsessing
Speaker 4: over extraordinary circumstances when there was so much ordinary misery
Speaker 4: in the world. Vote well again, he's just showing to me,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, what a lack of discernment he has,
Speaker 4: because there's a guy that supposedly went to law school
Speaker 4: and got a law degree. And I'm not sure about this,
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, because if that's the case,
Speaker 4: he would he should know right away.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, this is.
Speaker 4: Laying down case law theory. This is not just an
Speaker 4: extraordinary circumstance. Terry Schivo's case is going to lay down
Speaker 4: legal precedent which can be used again and again.
Speaker 3: And as an attorney, you ought to understand that. JD.
Speaker 2: Patrick, It was definitely precedents were set legally that that
Speaker 2: was probably the defining case of least that decade my opinion.
Speaker 4: Well, he brings it up one more time later in
Speaker 4: the book, if I could find it, But it seems
Speaker 4: what he's here it is page two fifteen. One thing
Speaker 4: it demands is a more fulsome understanding of the role
Speaker 4: of faith in public life. He says, the Church demands
Speaker 4: more of us, and it certainly demands more of me.
Speaker 4: One thing it demands is a more fullsome understanding of
Speaker 4: the role of faith in public life. If you remember
Speaker 4: the Terry Schaibo case that so frustrated me as a
Speaker 4: young Christian, Part of what I was reacting to was
Speaker 4: my own limited understanding of Christian social teaching. To me,
Speaker 4: Christians cared more about abortion bad and marriage good, but
Speaker 4: their politics seemed to seem so disconnected from the real
Speaker 4: lives of most people. But what brought me back to
Speaker 4: my faith was the Since the Church answered life's big questions,
Speaker 4: then I must resist the effort to confine Christ's moral
Speaker 4: teachings to a few social issues. What would a Christian
Speaker 4: approach not just to marriage and family, but to economics
Speaker 4: in the modern era? Look like, well, again, he seems
Speaker 4: so obsessed with the issue of abortion and marriage being
Speaker 4: at the elimination of concerns about the average person. Well,
Speaker 4: you know what if you're concerned about the average person,
Speaker 4: then pushed through policies at lower taxes in big government.
Speaker 4: But you certainly don't say, let's make this union stronger,
Speaker 4: let's let's force a livable wage on everyone, let's make
Speaker 4: the businesses shut down on certain days because we just
Speaker 4: think it's a great holiday. This guy is divorced from reality.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, I'm not sure he's ever run a
Speaker 4: real business, right has he? Has he ever run a
Speaker 4: real business, made a payroll.
Speaker 2: He entered into venture capital when he got out of base.
Speaker 3: He's never run a real business.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Venture capital is this is.
Speaker 3: This is the white Barack Obama.
Speaker 4: Okay, jd Vance is Barack Obama the white Barack Obama.
Speaker 3: Is that a fair assessment?
Speaker 2: It probably is. You said it, but I think you're right.
Speaker 2: You know, here's the guy. This is the tag verse
Speaker 2: in two Timothy, by the way to the thing I've
Speaker 2: read before ever verse seven, ever learned learning and never
Speaker 2: able to come to the knowledge of the truth. This
Speaker 2: is this is the epitome we're talking about here, always learning,
Speaker 2: always you know, stimulating spurious thoughts, but never able to
Speaker 2: come to the knowledge of the truth. He's missed it
Speaker 2: every single time. He's missed the truth every single time.
Speaker 2: I don't care what page you're on. This sounds good
Speaker 2: on the surface of it, sounds good, but he's missed.
Speaker 2: He's he's never coming to the to the knowledge of
Speaker 2: the truth, which of course is wrapped up in christ.
Speaker 2: But you know, there's there's that's just the broader issues
Speaker 2: other than that. But this whole book is based on
Speaker 2: uh faulty. Well, you know, we we could we could,
Speaker 2: we could say the critical theory is creeping into this
Speaker 2: guy's head where he's leveling criticisms against everything we stand for,
Speaker 2: to DeVault to draw people into his world, his ecumenical world,
Speaker 2: his technocratic world, et cetera. You know that I can
Speaker 2: see him running running on this this platform. I don't
Speaker 2: like it at all. But for for discerning Christians who
Speaker 2: will probably vote for him, now is a good time
Speaker 2: to figure out what this guy it's all about, because
Speaker 2: he may be the president, the next president, do you
Speaker 2: in fact, yeah, he's one he's one heartbeat away from
Speaker 2: the presidency already, right, And do you.
Speaker 4: Think that President Trump will finish his term? Because I
Speaker 4: was listening to Casey this morning. I said his name
Speaker 4: earlier today. What's his first name, Casey, now, the famous
Speaker 4: researcher Casey. But anyway, I was listening to him this
Speaker 4: morning and he has put down a ten thousand dollars bet.
Speaker 3: To a friend. I don't believe in gambling and bets,
Speaker 3: but if you want to do it, that's up to you.
Speaker 3: But I don't. I don't, But he's got the money
Speaker 3: to do it.
Speaker 4: He he has said that to his friend, I'll pay
Speaker 4: you ten thousand dollars if I'm wrong. But I'm telling
Speaker 4: you now President Trump will not finish his second term. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and he's bet ten thousand dollars that that's the case. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be, which means best.
Speaker 3: President Doug Casey, thank you?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: What do you make of that?
Speaker 2: I know Doug Casey from the old days. By the way,
Speaker 2: he has a he's uh, he has a good head
Speaker 2: on his shoulders. I think I would say the same
Speaker 2: thing at this point. The odds of the both the
Speaker 2: House and the Senate being flipped in this next election.
Speaker 2: Of course, we could be wrong. Maybe maybe some maybe
Speaker 2: they'll pull it out, but it seems to me at
Speaker 2: this point we're going to lose the Senate and the
Speaker 2: House as well if that happens. Who in the right
Speaker 2: mind doesn't think they're going to go after Trump to
Speaker 2: impeach him. They did it once already with you know,
Speaker 2: with the House. They couldn't get him in the Senate
Speaker 2: because we had the control of the Senate. But the
Speaker 2: Senate has to have a trial, and you know, if
Speaker 2: if they convict him, that's the the Trump.
Speaker 3: So anybody PRESIDENTY JD. Vans in his Hindu wi.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So, and he's he's a.
Speaker 4: New age Catholic. I would I would say he's a
Speaker 4: mystic new age Catholic. He talks to everybody, loves the
Speaker 4: he loves the mysticism. There was something, you say, he
Speaker 4: loves the mysticism of something, but I would uh oh, yeah.
Speaker 4: He says there was also a prayer to archangel Michaels.
Speaker 4: So he's praying. He's talking to dead people and praying
Speaker 4: to angels. The Bible says you don't pray to angels.
Speaker 4: It's called gnosticism. It's a big definition for gnosticism, seeking
Speaker 4: hidden knowledge whatnot. But one of the aspects of nascissism
Speaker 4: is you pray to angels the apostle. Paul says you no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: going to do this quote. There was also a prayer
Speaker 4: to archangel Michaels to intervene on our behalf and defeed
Speaker 4: evil by the power of God.
Speaker 3: I really like that one.
Speaker 4: It felt medieval despite being written in the nineteenth century,
Speaker 4: and it felt mystical.
Speaker 3: Quote He's a new age Catholic at best, right, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Closing comment, Well, this is as.
Speaker 2: Good a time as any to vet this guy. He
Speaker 2: may be our next next president. Whether we like it
Speaker 2: or not.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: As far as as far as Christians are concerned. The
Speaker 2: only reason to buy this book is to sharpen your
Speaker 2: apologetic stance to be able to explain it to somebody.
Speaker 2: Because all the churches that we we know, I know
Speaker 2: a bunch of them. I'm not going to give any names,
Speaker 2: but there's lots of churches that I'm in touch with
Speaker 2: in Phoenix, Arizona, even who will not talk about Bible prophecy.
Speaker 2: They'll talk about the Gospel and talk about you know,
Speaker 2: teaching the words, etcetera, etcetera. They won't talk about anything
Speaker 2: current event or prophecy wise, they just completely avoid the topic.
Speaker 2: This book will appeal to them big time. It'll suck
Speaker 2: them in, to at least the pew sitters. It'll suck
Speaker 2: them into yet another deception. How many people? How many
Speaker 2: times have we been kicked around as a church with
Speaker 2: deception in the last twenty years, even the last fifty years.
Speaker 2: Didn't Jimmy Carter come out with a Bible in his hand? Yes,
Speaker 2: yes he did. He was a good old Southern Baptist guy.
Speaker 2: You know, good old boy carried a big Bible. Christians
Speaker 2: ate it up, hooks, line and sinker. How many times
Speaker 2: have we been kicked around by this elite who get
Speaker 2: dialed in to what Christians want to hear and then
Speaker 2: deliver that message to them. Oh, he's a savior, He's
Speaker 2: going to save us all whatever, Just give me a break. Well,
Speaker 2: when will we ever learn.
Speaker 3: Reality? Is America deserves? Jad Evans JD.
Speaker 4: Vance is pushing and teaching in this book what so
Speaker 4: many Americans, even so called evangelical Christians.
Speaker 3: Believe America deserves jd Vance.
Speaker 4: If jd Vance becomes president, it is more of a
Speaker 4: sign about the country and God's judgment than Jadi Vance.
Speaker 4: If Jadvance becomes president, it is another sign God has
Speaker 4: given America over.
Speaker 3: It's part of God's judgment.
Speaker 4: Jd Vance becomes president, it's a sign that God is
Speaker 4: continuing to judge America. Because the ecumenicalism of this dude,
Speaker 4: which what so many people are in favor of, even
Speaker 4: in the so called evangelical world. It's like God saying,
Speaker 4: you want acumenicalism, here you go. I'll give you this
Speaker 4: former Baptist turned Catholic with his Hindu wife, have edit
Speaker 4: kids have fun well, because you wouldn't say kids, because
Speaker 4: these would be people who are not his children. He
Speaker 4: would have say, have edit. Here you go, country, Here
Speaker 4: you go, America. You want acumenicalism, here you go. And
Speaker 4: the guy also happens to believe in using the power
Speaker 4: of the government to control a major aspects of your
Speaker 4: business and your life and your payroll, and maybe even
Speaker 4: just use the power of the government to confiscate your
Speaker 4: property and your assets if you get on the wrong
Speaker 4: side of him.
Speaker 5: M hm.
Speaker 2: This is this is this possibly reminiscent of the statement
Speaker 2: that the World Economic Forum said, you will own nothing
Speaker 2: and be happy.
Speaker 4: I think jd Vance this administration is going to come
Speaker 4: after us, and and you think of jd vance administration
Speaker 4: would let worldview Tube keep broadcasting as we sit here
Speaker 4: and and and and and go against his culture.
Speaker 2: That's right. You're you're a big You're a big target.
Speaker 2: At this point.
Speaker 3: You have we'll all well, you're in it with your
Speaker 3: buddy boy.
Speaker 4: Just so if you haven't noticed, I'm ready at this point,
Speaker 4: at this point in my life.
Speaker 2: They can have it if they want it. But I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what, until God takes me home or rapture
Speaker 2: the share, I'm in it to win it, so to speak.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to win anything, but get my point.
Speaker 2: We were going to say what we have to say,
Speaker 2: and if people that don't like it, that's their problem,
Speaker 2: not my problem.
Speaker 3: At this point, if the race was between JD.
Speaker 4: Vance and Kamala Harris, would there really be much of
Speaker 4: a difference between the two.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't that there might be some advantages to Kamla
Speaker 2: because she's she can't she can't get out of her
Speaker 2: word solid mode to say anything meaningful that might be
Speaker 2: better for the country than somebody like Van obviously a plotter.
Speaker 4: And and and you Kamala would maybe wake up a
Speaker 4: sleeping giant and have opposites, whereas a JD vance Heck,
Speaker 4: the quote Christians will go along with this clap trap
Speaker 4: and corporate fascism.
Speaker 2: Exactly, yeah, crazy put quote on.
Speaker 4: Christian was one final quote, page one sixty one. He
Speaker 4: says Jendievans quote. I was also drawn to the hierarchy
Speaker 4: and sense of authority in Catholicism. The Christian tradition was
Speaker 4: so rich, the Bible so big and difficult to master,
Speaker 4: that I began to see the structure of Catholicism as
Speaker 4: a benefit, not a burden.
Speaker 2: End quote.
Speaker 3: Here's a guy admitting that he couldn't understand the Bible.
Speaker 4: I couldn't understand the Bible, so I decided, I'll just
Speaker 4: surrender to the hierarchy of the doctrines of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 4: Because I can't understand the Bible. Can I tell you
Speaker 4: why you can't understand the Bible?
Speaker 3: JD.
Speaker 4: Because I'm not your judge, I can't see your heart.
Speaker 4: But all the fruit, all your doctrinal fruit, all your
Speaker 4: doctrinal fruit shows you're not a believer, and the reason
Speaker 4: you don't understand the Bible is because you don't have
Speaker 4: the Holy Spirit inside of you to help you have
Speaker 4: the spiritual eyes to see and understand. And I would
Speaker 4: pray that you would receive Christ. I know I've been
Speaker 4: pretty harsh on you tonight, but it's partly because you're
Speaker 4: a false teacher. You're a false teacher, and you're a
Speaker 4: blasphemer according to the Bible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't, I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I don't tread lightly on describing what I
Speaker 4: think about blasphemers, idolators, deceivers.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's exactly what he is.
Speaker 4: Would you would you disagree with? Is that an inaccurate statement?
Speaker 2: That you're exactly right? Exactly?
Speaker 4: But I wanted to I wanted to become the Salvation,
Speaker 4: and I wanted you to be able to understand the Bible.
Speaker 4: But I find it very telling that he finds it
Speaker 4: difficult to master and understand the Bible. Well, that's because again,
Speaker 4: you're not a believer. It's kind of a dead letter
Speaker 4: to you. But there is enough to understand from the
Speaker 4: moral law on your heart and on your mind and
Speaker 4: through general revelation that you need a savior, and it's
Speaker 4: not found in the cow Church, and it's not bound
Speaker 4: in your Southern Baptist Church or your Methodist church. Is
Speaker 4: found in only the Lord and his death, barren resurrection.
Speaker 4: And it's not a process. It's instant justification, then sanctification,
Speaker 4: and then we look forward to glorification. I pray for Jdvans,
Speaker 4: I pray it comes to know the Lord. But I'm
Speaker 4: going to continue in my righteous indignation exposing this false
Speaker 4: teacher and this deceiver, for I believe theologically that's exactly
Speaker 4: what he is. And when you add him to someone
Speaker 4: like Peter Thiel, a so called Christian open homosexual.
Speaker 3: Right right, mm hmm, that's right, we got a real problem.
Speaker 4: This is redefining all the terms, all the doctrine, all
Speaker 4: the theology of the Bible, and the character and nature
Speaker 4: of God. And I'm not going to sit still for it.
Speaker 4: In fact, the Bible says that we are called expose
Speaker 4: the unfruitful works of darkness. Beware those men who've risen
Speaker 4: from within the draw away the disciples after themselves. This
Speaker 4: guy is trying to rise within the within quote the church.
Speaker 4: You know, He closes the book, by the way, with
Speaker 4: that very statement, and then with this we'll quit. He
Speaker 4: closes the book by stating that Pope Francis and Charlie Kirk,
Speaker 4: they were all a part of the same church. I
Speaker 4: want to quote it directly, so I'm going to take
Speaker 4: the time to find it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says in there by the Way that Charlie
Speaker 2: Kirk was one of his best friends.
Speaker 3: I wonder what Charlie would have to say if you
Speaker 3: were alive about this book.
Speaker 2: I would hope that he would say something, but I
Speaker 2: don't know. He's not here to defend himself.
Speaker 4: On page two eighty five, Vance writes, quote, as Christians,
Speaker 4: we are all together part of the same church. Those
Speaker 4: who suffered in those who prospered, those who voted for me,
Speaker 4: and those who didn't, the living and the dead. My
Speaker 4: grandmother and my father, though they disliked each other, Charlie
Speaker 4: Kirk and Pope Francis despite their different views, Saint Augustine
Speaker 4: and Father Henry, me and my son.
Speaker 3: So let me get this straight.
Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk, Pope Francis, they're all a part of the
Speaker 4: same church. Well, the church is Ecclesea. It's called out once.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. There is no universal ecumenical church. There's just
Speaker 4: the church.
Speaker 2: So this is the this is his concluding statement in
Speaker 2: the in the whole book.
Speaker 3: This is this is his one, two, three, four, five, six.
Speaker 4: This is the seventh, seventh to the last paragraph of
Speaker 4: the book.
Speaker 3: Seventh to the last paragraph.
Speaker 2: So here's the call for acuum medicine minicism. Yep, this
Speaker 2: is the This is the call that that puts the
Speaker 2: that puts the context in the book that this whole
Speaker 2: thing is as a call to return to the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2: Isn't this isn't this what all these people are saying.
Speaker 2: And then in the Naar movement, if we all get together,
Speaker 2: we're gonna, you know, we're gonna somehow include the Catholics
Speaker 2: as well as the Episcopalians and everybody else in the world.
Speaker 2: You know, this, this is the call of the ages
Speaker 2: at this point. We've seen it so many, so many
Speaker 2: ways and so many instances so over the last ten years.
Speaker 2: This is a big, big movement at this point. And
Speaker 2: he obviously he's he's a part of that movement. Yep.
Speaker 4: Wow, I don't know of anyone else this has done
Speaker 4: a full review of this book like we just did, Patrick,
Speaker 4: and I think this is a real service to those
Speaker 4: who want to be discerning and not deceived.
Speaker 3: I hope so right.
Speaker 2: We're setting a standard here, I think for apologetics. Yep,
Speaker 2: this is this is a good thing. The church needs
Speaker 2: to hear this. Yep.
Speaker 3: And I pray for JJA.
Speaker 4: I want to say again, I pray for j D
Speaker 4: and his family were ordered by the Bible to pray
Speaker 4: for elected officials.
Speaker 3: I pray for his salvation.
Speaker 4: But I will continue to speak bluntly, boldly, and maybe
Speaker 4: even in terms people don't like, because I again have
Speaker 4: zero patients for people being deceived.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, Patrickwood.
Speaker 4: Technocracy News, Technocracy News, and I think we're gonna have
Speaker 4: a big announcement coming up. We're hoping Patrick that maybe
Speaker 4: this November, after the elections, this November, at this news desk,
Speaker 4: Lord willing, you and I and Courtenay Turner and Carl
Speaker 4: ty crib we'll all gathered together to a huge conference
Speaker 4: on transhumanism and technocracy and globalism.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, that would be amazing thing to see. And
Speaker 2: I don't know you, maybe our listeners don't know how
Speaker 2: connected Carl and I have been over the years. But
Speaker 2: he was basically the first, the first guy that kind
Speaker 2: of took me by the hand to understand technocracy in
Speaker 2: the first place. We're going back twenty years at this point. Wow,
Speaker 2: So where we have a lot of stuff in common.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, between the two of us,
Speaker 2: we can have a conversation like no other.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: And we're going to sponsor it, Lord Willing right here
Speaker 4: around this desk after the elections. All right, Patrick, Technocracy News,
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Patrick, you bet God blessed.
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