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<v Speaker 1>This is Brannon House Live. Whether the issue is law, science, economics, history, family,

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<v Speaker 1>social issues, education, religion, government or national security, Brannon brings

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<v Speaker 1>the issues of the day into clear focus through the

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<v Speaker 1>lens of a Judeo Christian worldview.

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<v Speaker 2>And now here.

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<v Speaker 1>Is your host, Brannan Howe.

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<v Speaker 3>And welcome to the broad Past.

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<v Speaker 4>Glad you're with us on this Wednesday night, August nineteenth.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm holding the book by jd Vance Communion. I talked

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<v Speaker 4>about it on radio and TV today. We got a

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<v Speaker 4>big response. We had on Carl tikrib for the last half,

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<v Speaker 4>we got a big response. I just scratched the service.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get all the way through the book.

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<v Speaker 4>I've marked it up and I called Patrick Wood last night.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, I got the book and I'm reading it

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<v Speaker 4>and this is a real problem. On page two sixty two,

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<v Speaker 4>the vice president says that he talks to the dead.

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<v Speaker 4>He calls it the temple of the dead. He goes

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<v Speaker 4>to the family plot cemetery to talk to his dead relatives,

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<v Speaker 4>and he bought it so that his kids would have

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<v Speaker 4>a place to quote, visit and speak to their ancestors

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<v Speaker 4>end quote.

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<v Speaker 3>He also talks about how.

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<v Speaker 4>He feels about a Darwinian evolution, the mixture of man

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<v Speaker 4>as animal and divine combined. He talks about his love

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<v Speaker 4>of that which is mystical. He talks about the using

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<v Speaker 4>the power of the government to force corporations to.

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<v Speaker 3>Give a livable wage. Who defines that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to play a clip for you tonight with

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<v Speaker 4>Patrick Wood where the Vice president's actually talking about using

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<v Speaker 4>the power of the government to take away the property

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<v Speaker 4>and resources of people we don't agree with, if they

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<v Speaker 4>are against our issues, if they're not with us on

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<v Speaker 4>the cultural war issues, who had just seize their stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I'm not for doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Unless it's a national security issue and we're dealing with terrorism.

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<v Speaker 4>Other than that, we're for private property.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>But you got to hear this tonight, folks, because this

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<v Speaker 4>is a real problem. He says many things in here

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<v Speaker 4>that we did not have time to get to today

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<v Speaker 4>during the radio show. So I hope you will tweet, text, email, Facebook, getter,

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<v Speaker 4>true social your family and friends right now, because we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to quote the page combers, We're going to play

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<v Speaker 4>some video clips, and we're going to line it up

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<v Speaker 4>with the Bible and the US Constitution. He mocks, by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, people that believe in the rapture or the

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<v Speaker 4>second Coming. He got enraged. I sat there in a

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<v Speaker 4>silent rage. Why because the pastor was preaching and preparing

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<v Speaker 4>for the second coming of Christ? Really, why would you

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<v Speaker 4>have a rage about that. He also talks in this

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<v Speaker 4>book about how he joined the Catholic Church, which he

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<v Speaker 4>did in about twenty nineteen. But one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 4>he joined the Catholic Church is because he found that

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<v Speaker 4>the Bible was too difficult to understand, too big, too big,

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<v Speaker 4>too complex to understand. So he joined the Catholic Church

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<v Speaker 4>with all of its hierarchy. Well why is it that

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<v Speaker 4>he cannot understand the Bible?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>He said, quote the Christian tradition was so rich, the

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<v Speaker 4>Bible is so big and difficult to master that I

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<v Speaker 4>began to see the structure of Catholicism as a benefit,

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<v Speaker 4>not a burden.

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<v Speaker 2>End quote.

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<v Speaker 4>Well why can you not master the Bible? Maybe there's

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<v Speaker 4>lacking the Holy Spirit.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I can't be his judge. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>his judge.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to be his judge as far as

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<v Speaker 4>where he is with salvation, but I can judge his doctrine.

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<v Speaker 4>The Lord said you'll know them by their fruits, and

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<v Speaker 4>that was talking about doctrinal fruits.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy, in my.

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<v Speaker 4>Opinion, theologically is a false teacher. He's saying it things

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<v Speaker 4>in here that are wrong. But then on economics, he's

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<v Speaker 4>talking about a power of the government to give a

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<v Speaker 4>living wage, to force a living wage, to force businesses

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<v Speaker 4>to shut.

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<v Speaker 3>Down on certain days and holidays.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, what we're gonna do that for all Hindu religions,

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<v Speaker 4>Islamic religions.

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<v Speaker 3>Christian holidays? We're there? Are we going to do that?

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<v Speaker 4>There's so much in here, folks, And I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>get to Patrick Wood, So I hope you'll tweet, text, email, Facebook, get.

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<v Speaker 3>Or true social.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to quote the page numbers and everything. Now, folks,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see Jade Vance come to know the Lord.

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<v Speaker 4>The Bible says that I desire that no one should perish,

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<v Speaker 4>but all should come to repentance. And I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>try to stay calm tonight and not get too rowled up.

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<v Speaker 4>But I gotta tell you, I do get rowled up

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<v Speaker 4>when I hear people, particularly a sitting vice president, writing

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<v Speaker 4>a book attacking, as I see it, people that believe

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<v Speaker 4>in Bible prophecy. You want to study it and believe

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<v Speaker 4>in the second Coming and long for it, and believe

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<v Speaker 4>in the rapture. I get rolled up when I see

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<v Speaker 4>and hear people teaching the idea that what we need

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<v Speaker 4>to do is have a bigger government that regulates who

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<v Speaker 4>gets a living wage. I get rolled up when I

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<v Speaker 4>see someone talking about how man is a mixture of

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<v Speaker 4>divine an animal. I get rolled up when I hear

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<v Speaker 4>and read things that I think can deceive people, that

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<v Speaker 4>is misrepresenting.

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<v Speaker 3>My Lord.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm going to do my best to be as

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<v Speaker 4>calm as I can, but I'm probably gonna get a

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<v Speaker 4>little passionate tonight. You know, Jesus called the false teachers

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<v Speaker 4>of his day white dead men's bones, like white washed

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<v Speaker 4>tombs actually full of dead men's bones.

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<v Speaker 3>He said they were like their father, the devil.

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<v Speaker 4>He said a lot of things to them, people like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't call people names. Well Jesus did, Jesus did.

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<v Speaker 4>I've done a whole series on understanding the insults of Jesus. Fact,

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<v Speaker 4>let me go to before we go to Patrick. While

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<v Speaker 4>you're tweeting, texting, email, what are some of the most

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<v Speaker 4>popular What were what were some of the most popular

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<v Speaker 4>insults Jesus crew.

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<v Speaker 3>At false teachers. Let's ask.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's ask world Viewpedia because I did a whole series

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<v Speaker 4>on understanding the Insults of Jesus. Because you see a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people today becomes so politically correct that they

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<v Speaker 4>are afraid to call it like it is. You know what,

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<v Speaker 4>We have a lot of people that will write this

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<v Speaker 4>broadcast email letters say I appreciate Brandon because he says

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<v Speaker 4>what I think. He says what I think what so

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<v Speaker 4>many people are afraid to say. Here it is the

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<v Speaker 4>insults Jesus used against false teachers. What a fascinating topic

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<v Speaker 4>based on the Worldview Bible study video series Understanding the

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<v Speaker 4>Insults of Jesus by Brandon House, He called them whitewashed tombs.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus told them Pharisees.

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<v Speaker 4>They looked perfect and clean on the outside, but they

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<v Speaker 4>were full of dead men's bones on the inside. This

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<v Speaker 4>was deeply cutting rebuke in Jewish culture because touching a

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<v Speaker 4>dead body or grave made a person ceremonially unclean. It

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<v Speaker 4>could require up the seven days of separation and cleansing sermon.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, you strain out a gnat, but swallow a camel,

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<v Speaker 4>meaning they focused on minor religious technicalities while ignoring massive

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<v Speaker 4>spiritual failures. By the way, why did he say you

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<v Speaker 4>strain out a gnat?

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<v Speaker 3>You know why? Because they literally did.

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<v Speaker 4>They would put a claw over their drink and they

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<v Speaker 4>would pour the drink through that filter or claw to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure they did not swallow even a gnat, which

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<v Speaker 4>could cause them to break Jewish requirements. You literally are

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<v Speaker 4>straining out a gnat. And then he said, but you

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<v Speaker 4>swallow a camel. They were literally straining gnats. They understood

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what he was saying. You see, That's why it's

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<v Speaker 4>so important to understand the who is writing, who is speaking,

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<v Speaker 4>who are they speaking to, what's the culture to get

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<v Speaker 4>the context.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how we study the Bible.

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<v Speaker 4>And then our worldview Pedia research assistant says. As Brandon

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<v Speaker 4>points out, these were insults in the traditional sense.

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<v Speaker 3>They were truth.

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<v Speaker 4>The Pharisees were insulted because of their incredible pride and arrogance.

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<v Speaker 4>What Jesus said about them was one hundred percent true,

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<v Speaker 4>whereas the insults hurled at Jesus where one hundred percent lies.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you can watch the series where I'm discussing

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<v Speaker 4>these topics.

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<v Speaker 3>Understand the insults of Jesus, So.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm not gonna be name calling just for the

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<v Speaker 4>sake of name calling. But the Bible says that Roman's won,

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<v Speaker 4>They've been given over, and they are fools, and they

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<v Speaker 4>suppressed the truth and unrighteousness. The Bible uses the word

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<v Speaker 4>morons moros moros, it's another word for fool. Professing to

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<v Speaker 4>be wise, they become fools. So tonight, folks, this is

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<v Speaker 4>a very very important program. And I have looked and

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<v Speaker 4>I can find no other broadcaster that has done a

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<v Speaker 4>full review book review of JD Vance's book Communion. But

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<v Speaker 4>we have a little bit today at one o'clock and

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<v Speaker 4>now we'll finish it tonight because we just scratched the service.

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<v Speaker 4>So joining me is going to be Patrick Wood because

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<v Speaker 4>I called Patrick last night said you got to read

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<v Speaker 3>That's on here somewhere where is it there?

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<v Speaker 4>It is Worldviewfoundation dot com. This is a great way

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<v Speaker 3>In this topic.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know anyone else that has done a full

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<v Speaker 4>book review of JD. Vance's book Communion. Well I have,

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<v Speaker 4>and I have marked it up friends. And this guy

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<v Speaker 4>Now I think he's a dangerous dude.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I already thought he was dangerous, but he's weird.

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<v Speaker 4>He's dangerous in my opinion, theologically, politically, economically, the whole

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<v Speaker 4>And I think he's too chicken to come on our

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't think he can defend his worldview from

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<v Speaker 4>converted Catholic. He's converted to Catholicism. He's a Catholic. I

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<v Speaker 4>But he is not friendly in my opinion to the Christians.

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<v Speaker 4>He likes to make fun of the Christians. Apparently, from

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<v Speaker 4>Weekend speaker Tim la Hay. He says in the mid

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety he's a wave of prophetic theory. He was

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<v Speaker 4>sweeping through American evangelical churches. Tim Lahay and Jerry B.

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<v Speaker 4>Jingen's blockbuster Left Behind books told the story of an

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<v Speaker 4>impending apocalypse and were widely popular in Dad's church. One

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<v Speaker 4>woman told me I had handsome eyes, which might earn

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<v Speaker 4>me a beautiful wife if the Lord didn't come before

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<v Speaker 4>and let you see what he says about that. But

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<v Speaker 4>the most striking part is this.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I read it twice today on television at one o'clock. Logan,

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<v Speaker 4>it for the first time from our friend Carl tykrib

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<v Speaker 4>his first time response to hearing this because it's so

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<v Speaker 4>authentic and real. All right, Here is what JD. Vance writes.

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<v Speaker 4>The Vice President of the United States on page two sixty.

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<v Speaker 4>when I first made some money, I reached out to

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<v Speaker 4>an eighty year old cousin to buy the family cemetery

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<v Speaker 4>in eastern Kentucky. I spoke about this cemetery probably about

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<v Speaker 4>half an acre, in my acceptance speech at the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four National Convention. Even as Vice President, I try

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<v Speaker 4>to visit at least once a year. It's a beautiful

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<v Speaker 4>and I still have relatives there whom I love to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Skipping a paragraph, he.

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<v Speaker 4>Writes, quote, I talked to my grandparents and my great grandparents,

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<v Speaker 4>experience in the course of life. I talk to may

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<v Speaker 4>Maw when I need strength or focus, to Papa when

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<v Speaker 4>Pop PAUW Blaine, whom I never met, when I need toughness.

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<v Speaker 4>I bought the cemetery for selfish reasons. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>and the sake of those buried. But I bought it

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<v Speaker 4>for the selfish reasons too. And I bought it for

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<v Speaker 4>selfish reasons too, for the moments of quiet reflection I

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<v Speaker 4>find only in this place unique in all the world.

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<v Speaker 4>I bought it so that when I'm buried, my children

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<v Speaker 4>will have a place to visit and.

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<v Speaker 3>Speak to their ancestors.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to get Patrick Wood's response, But Loogan, how

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<v Speaker 4>did Carl tykerb.

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<v Speaker 3>Respond to that? At one o'clock Central time today?

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<v Speaker 6>What's okay? I'm I'm cyberg acids my goodness. This is JD.

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<v Speaker 6>D answers to the Vice President of the United States.

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<v Speaker 6>This is spiritism. This is flat out spiritism to the dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Answer him, Rollie.

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<v Speaker 6>This is kind of merges right into the realm of

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<v Speaker 6>ancestor worship. This is he wrote that, Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 6>wild man. That's wild.

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<v Speaker 4>And can I ask you why why I'm not hearing

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<v Speaker 4>other Christian broadcasters talk about this. I'm not aware of

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<v Speaker 4>any other Christian broadcaster out there talking about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you logan? Have you heard it? I went searching to.

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<v Speaker 4>See if I could find another Christian broadcast, couldn't find one.

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<v Speaker 6>Ran that is over the aw My goodness. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>kind of speechless. I wish I could give you some

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<v Speaker 6>insights except for the fact that it's obvious it's a spiritism.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's the realm that he's entered. This is really

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<v Speaker 6>bizarre stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know who Renee Gerard is? Well, we'll stop

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<v Speaker 3>it right there. There we go.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll get into Renee Gerard here in a moment. Patrick,

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the broadcast.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you make of this?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not surprised. On one hand, he's very

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<v Speaker 2>confused about a lot of issues, especially biblical issues. But however,

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<v Speaker 2>this book Communion, it's it's I think it's directed to Christians.

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<v Speaker 2>It is and I can see Christians reading this book

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<v Speaker 2>and thinking, oh, really sounds like this is a spiritual guy.

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<v Speaker 2>We should get on board with him. That would be

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<v Speaker 2>a dangerous, dangerous mistake. And we'll we'll flesh it out

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<v Speaker 2>maybe in a few minutes. But I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>a stunning revelation into his mindset. And I'll say it

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<v Speaker 2>flat out, this is not the way a Christian talks,

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<v Speaker 2>period and a subject. And I saw so many things

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<v Speaker 2>in the book. I got the book last night when

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<v Speaker 2>you said we ought to talk about it today. I

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<v Speaker 2>was really interested at that point. And what I saw

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<v Speaker 2>so many factual misstatements about the Bible that just stunning.

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<v Speaker 2>Most Christians would not, you know, catch that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So what what's he Why did he write this book

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<v Speaker 2>in the first place. Well, maybe he's getting ready for

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<v Speaker 2>the run to be the president. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's clearly uh, you know, sucking up to Christians.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, he said, so, what's the point, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>to deceive people. That's that's only the only thing I

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he must have the worst political consultants, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 4>because if you are writing this book to get ready

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<v Speaker 4>to run for president, and you're writing it to so

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<v Speaker 4>called Christians and you think you're gonna get their vote

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<v Speaker 4>by writing this, he's dumber than he looks, and he

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<v Speaker 4>looks pretty dumb. And I'm not trying to be unkind,

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<v Speaker 4>but this dude's a moron, okay. Jd Vance is a

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<v Speaker 4>romans One fool. I was never impressed with this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it was a bad choice from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 4>And the more he talks and the more he writes,

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<v Speaker 4>the more he proves to me, he's a Romans one fool.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll agree with you absolutely, But remember the Christian Church

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<v Speaker 2>has been missing their discernment function all along, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many people that are just totally deceived practicing stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and the way the world thinks about it at least,

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<v Speaker 2>and so many how many discerning Christians Christian and can

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<v Speaker 2>pick up what we're talking about here your audience, will

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<v Speaker 2>I hope we'll get it. Yeah, I know they will.

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<v Speaker 2>But so many Christians will just buy into this whole thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're just go, oh man, this this is the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest thing. You know, people like Bill Johnson, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>the nar movement right from Reading.

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<v Speaker 3>County, California.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's right, they practice this this this thing called

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<v Speaker 2>the grave soaking yep, where you go and lie down

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<v Speaker 2>on some dead guy's grave and somehow get soaked in

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<v Speaker 2>his spirit at whatever that means. I've seen them do this,

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<v Speaker 2>do this. But this, this is basically what what JD.

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<v Speaker 2>Vance is saying here. He say, what, I really don't

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<v Speaker 2>lie down on their grave, but I go to the cemetery.

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<v Speaker 2>I talk to them to get advice, to get spiritual advice.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know what's the difference. Well, the people in

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<v Speaker 2>the nar movement, they'll eat this up completely.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they sure will.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'll tell you something, Patrick, this book was.

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<v Speaker 3>Hard to read.

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<v Speaker 4>It's boring, it's juvenile, it's poorly written, it jumps all

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<v Speaker 4>over the place, and and it discusses things that, frankly,

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<v Speaker 4>are not even interesting. I mean, does really, does anyone

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<v Speaker 4>really care what jd. Vance was thinking as a young

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<v Speaker 4>guy about to go off to Iraq and his personal

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<v Speaker 4>spiritual you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Questions. I really don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>There's nothing inspiring from a biblical perspective here because he

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<v Speaker 4>ends up within the very first chapter, I think hurling

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<v Speaker 4>insults at Bible believing Christians tells us right off the

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<v Speaker 4>bat on page six, I chose to become a Catholic

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<v Speaker 4>for what I believe are good reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>He then.

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<v Speaker 4>So we were like, okay, well, we realize you have

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<v Speaker 4>enough discernment to realize the false teaching of the Catholic Church.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, for if you're Catholic, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>we have false teaching the Protestant world as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>But at least I'm not going to some priest, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to look for forgiveness or confession. I also don't believe

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<v Speaker 4>that the Christ literally shows up in the wafer and

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<v Speaker 4>is slaughtered over and over and over and over again

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<v Speaker 4>through transubstantiation.

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<v Speaker 3>But that being said, we.

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<v Speaker 4>Got our own problems with the Protestant world, So don't

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<v Speaker 4>be too offended, Catholic friends, because you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 4>have it perfect over here either. We got a lot

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<v Speaker 4>not being I'm going to be fair about you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I've spent more time decades writing about the Protestant world

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<v Speaker 4>than I have the Catholic that's for sure, because that's

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<v Speaker 4>where I live and that's what I write on. But

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<v Speaker 4>this guy clearly is not discerning, and he wants to

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<v Speaker 4>tell us somebody his spiritual journey, and he ends up

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<v Speaker 4>in a total theological train wreck. But he can't even

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<v Speaker 4>make it over to page nineteen. He's at page nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>and he's already hurling insults at a huge voting block.

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<v Speaker 3>How dumb is he?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we do know, I do know again, this

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<v Speaker 4>of books, since I don't care. I know, guys with

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<v Speaker 4>more degrees than a thermometer, they can't make a living,

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<v Speaker 4>so no joke, I really do. They just can't make

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<v Speaker 4>a living, but they got degrees. But this guy clearly

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<v Speaker 4>apparently that he gets to page nineteen and starts hurling

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<v Speaker 4>the insults at potential voters, right, people that you want

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<v Speaker 4>to vote for you, and you're going to start calling

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<v Speaker 4>them out because they believe in the rapture, because they

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you notice that by page nineteen he's already insulting Christians?

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<v Speaker 2>I did. And you have to remember who is he

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<v Speaker 2>appealing to this book. It's not for not for people

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<v Speaker 2>like you and me who will shred it. You know, we'll, we'll,

427
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<v Speaker 2>we'll read it. Say this is a bad, bad book,

428
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<v Speaker 2>poorly written, bad grammar. You know this.

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<v Speaker 3>You saw that, right?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I agree with you. Absolutely. I would not read

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<v Speaker 2>this book. I wouldn't pay for this book on purpose,

432
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<v Speaker 2>but I did for the kindle version. Right you had,

433
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<v Speaker 2>you paid for it. Hopefully you paid for it yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't rip it off somebody.

435
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<v Speaker 3>I want it I want it, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>So look here's here's the first exception. It's in in

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<v Speaker 2>the the introduction. Maybe maybe you caught this. I caught

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<v Speaker 2>it immediately. The first proposition he comes out of the

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<v Speaker 2>gate in this is I can't well, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>kindle version. But it's in the the the introduction. He says,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean to undervalue the core of the Christian

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<v Speaker 2>faith that Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God,

443
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<v Speaker 2>was born of the Virgin Mary, was crucified for our sins,

444
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<v Speaker 2>and rose from the dead. Okay, most Christians will say, well,

445
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<v Speaker 2>that sounds pretty good to be right. Then he says,

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<v Speaker 2>and the same paragraph, salvation is impossible if a man

447
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<v Speaker 2>fails to reconcile himself too and fight and find peace

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<v Speaker 2>with God. What's wrong with that statement. Well, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>up to man to be reconciled to God. It's up

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<v Speaker 2>to God to reconcile him. This is absolutely diametrically opposite

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<v Speaker 2>of what the Bible says. So we see these contradictions

452
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<v Speaker 2>over and over in this book. He'll say something that

453
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<v Speaker 2>sounds kind of right, but then it contradicted, and the

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<v Speaker 2>same breath, this is, this is, this is a mark

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<v Speaker 2>of a deceiver. In my opinion, class class A one deceiver.

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<v Speaker 2>He's but he will he will affect a draw to

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<v Speaker 2>people who want to be uh included in the ecumenical

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<v Speaker 2>movement where Protestants and Catholics can get together and have

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<v Speaker 2>their interfaith dialogue whatever. And so this this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to appeal to that base, not our base. And honestly,

461
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<v Speaker 2>I think our base is just off off the charts

462
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<v Speaker 2>for them at this point. I don't think they really

463
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<v Speaker 2>care about you and me. Basically, we're we believe that

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<v Speaker 2>what the Bible says about the rapture and other things.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just we take the whole thing literally, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we talk about Bible prophecy, we talk about Babylon,

467
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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. I don't think these people give a whit

468
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<v Speaker 2>about us because we're so there worth a small, smaller

469
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<v Speaker 2>splinter of Christianity at this They're appealing to the big

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<v Speaker 2>tent at this point, the big.

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<v Speaker 3>Tent, indeed they are.

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<v Speaker 4>And I did see that, and I'm glad you brought

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<v Speaker 4>that up because I had forgotten about it. And I've

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<v Speaker 4>got a lot of things marked here that I want

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about that I did not get too on

476
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<v Speaker 4>radio today because I didn't even get through half the

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<v Speaker 4>book today of the pages that I've marked up that

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<v Speaker 4>I want to discuss with you. But I did notice,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm trying to find it. I did notice where

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<v Speaker 4>he talks about the fact that he came to realize

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<v Speaker 4>and if it's with what he said there in the opening,

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<v Speaker 4>that grace is not a one time thing, that it's

483
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<v Speaker 4>something that happens over time for most people. I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>do you not understand justification and sanctification?

485
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<v Speaker 3>Grace?

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing grace, I'll sweet the sound that saved a wretch

487
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<v Speaker 4>like me. It's not is saving a wretch like me,

488
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<v Speaker 4>You're saved. But he said, grace is I came to

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<v Speaker 4>realize that. I'm gonna find it here while we're talking.

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<v Speaker 4>But he said, grace is something that happens over time,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's a process, like no.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, here it is.

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<v Speaker 4>He's talking about talking to Father Henry, this Catholic guy,

494
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<v Speaker 4>this priest.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why we demand that you live.

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<v Speaker 4>A sacrificial life, going to church, taking communion, doing confession.

497
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<v Speaker 4>This is a process. You don't accept Jesus into your

498
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<v Speaker 4>heart or get baptized and fix everything that's not the

499
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<v Speaker 4>promise of the church. The promise of the Church is

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<v Speaker 4>that you are lost and the Church will provide you

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<v Speaker 4>a roadmap to God. The idea of grace as a

502
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<v Speaker 4>process rather than a single moment was profound to me.

503
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<v Speaker 4>I realized that I had misunderstood the promise of the

504
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<v Speaker 4>Catholic I realized I had misunderstood the promise of the

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<v Speaker 4>Christian faith.

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<v Speaker 3>God could save your.

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<v Speaker 4>Soul in an instant, but for most people, the transformation

508
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<v Speaker 4>of that soul took time and work. I'm sorry. There

509
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<v Speaker 4>is no work required for salvation. The work is on

510
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<v Speaker 4>the sanctification side, not the justification side. It's not by

511
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<v Speaker 4>works lest anyman should boast. It's a gift of God.

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<v Speaker 4>That's grace, unmerited favor. By placing my faith and trust

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<v Speaker 4>in Christ alone in his work on the cross as

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<v Speaker 4>the payment for my sins, and I believe in his

515
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<v Speaker 4>death is baried this resurrection. And I say, I can't

516
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<v Speaker 4>say myself, I can't do enough good works to do it,

517
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<v Speaker 4>but I trust in the substitutionary death of Christ is

518
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<v Speaker 4>the payment of that sin for me. And when you

519
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<v Speaker 4>do that brand that's called justification. Grace is applied and

520
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 4>you're saved. Then comes the works of sanctification. But the

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<v Speaker 4>apostle Paul says that sanctification process ongoing faithful as obedience

522
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<v Speaker 4>is not for salvation. It's for rewards at the Bamas seat.

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<v Speaker 4>And they'll be tested by fire and that which is

524
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<v Speaker 4>of wood and stubble, and hey will be burned up,

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<v Speaker 4>though the man himself will be preserved.

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<v Speaker 3>It's are you going to get any rewards?

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<v Speaker 4>Have you invested in the spiritual bank account of heaven

528
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<v Speaker 4>for rewards? And if you haven't, you're gonna going to

529
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<v Speaker 4>you know, all you do is temporal things.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll burn up.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's not salvation by works. There's justification than sanctification.

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<v Speaker 4>He says that it's a process. That the idea of

533
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<v Speaker 4>grace as a as a process rather than a single

534
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<v Speaker 4>moment was profound to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you pick up on that, Patrick, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Did, Yeah, exactly. This this is this is a book

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<v Speaker 2>of deception. And I don't we can't. We can't take

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<v Speaker 2>it any other way. This book is intended to deceive.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if he maybe he didn't intend that. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine not, but you know, I don't think Maybe he said,

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<v Speaker 2>how can I deceive? Everybody in particular. But this is

542
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<v Speaker 2>this is the outcome this kind of a book, and

543
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:09.000
<v Speaker 2>everything that he writes that has a theological theological position

544
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:14.519
<v Speaker 2>about behind it, it's twisted some way. It's twisted.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, let's go to page one nine. Now, let me

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<v Speaker 4>just address at the outset, folks. I'm a little rowled

547
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<v Speaker 4>up tonight. I'm a little riled up tonight. And the

548
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<v Speaker 4>reason I'm riled up is because of the thing he said, deception.

549
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't like people being deceived. I don't like people

550
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<v Speaker 4>being sold a false gospel. And I don't like people

551
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<v Speaker 4>attacking the Bible or attacking those who believe the Bible.

552
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 3>So you're right, I get riled up. I don't like

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<v Speaker 3>this guy.

554
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 4>I don't trust this guy, and you know on this

555
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:51.319
<v Speaker 4>broadcast I've said that for a long time prior to

556
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<v Speaker 4>reading this garbage. In my opinion, this guy is spiritually dangerous,

557
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<v Speaker 4>economically dangerous, politically danger.

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<v Speaker 3>Any Christian that votes.

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<v Speaker 4>For him after knowing what we've told you tonight, in

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<v Speaker 4>my opinion, is on a fool's Errand.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we just maybe we should just lay out what

562
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<v Speaker 2>the Bible says about end times deceivers so they can

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<v Speaker 2>make the comparison themselves. Yes, I'm thinking. I have on

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<v Speaker 2>the screen right now a passage from two Timothy chapter

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<v Speaker 2>three versus one to five. Just listen to this. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. I'll read it. This know also that

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<v Speaker 2>in the last days, pailess times will come. Are we

568
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<v Speaker 2>in that this right now? I think we are right.

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<v Speaker 2>For men will be lovers of their own cells, covetous boasters,

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<v Speaker 2>proud blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy without national natural affection.

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<v Speaker 2>Truth baker, listen, truth breakers, false accusers, and continent fierce

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<v Speaker 2>despisers of those who are good traders. Heady I high

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<v Speaker 2>minded lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God. And

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<v Speaker 2>listen to this the bottom line, having a form of godliness,

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<v Speaker 2>but denying the power thereof from such turn away. There

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<v Speaker 2>you go. That sums it up completely in my mind

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<v Speaker 2>at this point. Well, we'll have more to say about this,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure. But this is the person that's set out

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<v Speaker 2>to deceive people into his way of thinking, and he's

580
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<v Speaker 2>appealing to all the cults. So we all we track

581
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<v Speaker 2>already like the new Apostolic Reformation crowd and Doug Wilson

582
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<v Speaker 2>all these people that the Christian Nationalists, all these people.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the people he he's a feeling to. They're

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that are already deceived, but they're going to

585
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<v Speaker 2>get more deceived when they listen to him.

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<v Speaker 4>Very well, said Patrick, And I'll tell you something. I

587
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<v Speaker 4>think he's into communism.

588
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<v Speaker 2>Light.

589
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<v Speaker 3>You going to rock your world, folks.

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<v Speaker 4>This guy's not only pushing I think the doctrines of demons,

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<v Speaker 4>talking to the dead. Every what he calls the temple

592
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<v Speaker 4>what do you call it? The temple of the dead.

593
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<v Speaker 4>What he called it, Let me go back to get it,

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<v Speaker 4>temple right, Temple of the dead. This dude is pushing

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<v Speaker 4>the doctrines of demons, in my opinion, theologically and again,

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<v Speaker 4>the Vice President is welcome to come on the broadcast.

597
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<v Speaker 4>I'll be professional, I'll be a gentleman and we can talk.

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<v Speaker 4>But he better bring his Bible because that's what that's

599
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<v Speaker 4>my foundation. But he won't show up here. He won't

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<v Speaker 4>come on here. Now, this guy, I believe is pushing communism.

601
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<v Speaker 4>Light My audience knows it as communitarianism, big government versus

602
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<v Speaker 4>big government merging with big business communitarianism. Henry Lamb, the

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<v Speaker 4>late Henry Lamb, who I started reading and quoting from

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<v Speaker 4>so many years ago who since passed away called it communism.

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<v Speaker 3>Light let me before I get to that, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to go to the fact.

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<v Speaker 4>By page nineteen, he's already insulting folks like Patrick and

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<v Speaker 4>I and others, which is fine, I know whatever, he

609
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<v Speaker 4>was never going to get my vote anyway. But I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just thinking from a common sense standpoint, why would you

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<v Speaker 4>want to why would you want to offend of influential

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<v Speaker 4>voting block. But then again, maybe he thinks he doesn't

613
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<v Speaker 4>need what is indeed the shrinking voting block of people

614
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<v Speaker 4>like Patrick Wood and myself. You know, But here's what

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<v Speaker 4>he writes on page nineteen in the mid nineteen nineties,

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<v Speaker 4>A way of a prophetic theory. Now is that interesting?

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<v Speaker 4>It's prophetic theory. Here's a guy pushing the temple of

618
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<v Speaker 4>the dead and talking to the dead. But he thinks

619
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<v Speaker 4>he has the wherewithal to criticize people who study Bible

620
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<v Speaker 4>prophecy and call it a theory. You know, the Bible

621
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<v Speaker 4>doesn't say in the Book of Revelation, study this book,

622
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:21.760
<v Speaker 4>learn this book, Understand this book, and there'll be a

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<v Speaker 4>blessing if you could understand these theories.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't say that.

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<v Speaker 4>The book is filled revelation with symbolism, but often the

626
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<v Speaker 4>symbolism is described in great detail. The Angel says, come

627
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<v Speaker 4>and I will show you a mystery. And then the

628
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.159
<v Speaker 4>mysteries explained, no longer a mystery. But he wants to

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<v Speaker 4>tell us we believe a theory, while he's the dude

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<v Speaker 4>that believes, apparently as a Catholic in transistantiation. Hello, that's

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<v Speaker 4>not a theory, that's a heresy because the Bible's clear.

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<v Speaker 4>He died once or all for the sins of man

633
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<v Speaker 4>who place their faith in trust in him. It's finished,

634
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:01.719
<v Speaker 4>he said, on the cross, debt paid in full. Not

635
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<v Speaker 4>I'll be back in your wafer. When the priest calls

636
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<v Speaker 4>me down to die again and again and again and again.

637
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<v Speaker 4>Reminds me of the song by the Highwaymen. I'll be

638
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<v Speaker 4>around again and again and again. Remember the highwayman Johnny

639
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<v Speaker 4>Cash and Willie Nelson.

640
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<v Speaker 3>And I'm missing two of them. I can see they're

641
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<v Speaker 3>inter faces.

642
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<v Speaker 4>So he calls this prophetic, this Bible prophecy. Studying a

643
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<v Speaker 4>Bible prophecy a theory that's interesting JD. Because Daniel chapter two,

644
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<v Speaker 4>God gives a revelation to the prophet Daniel who sees

645
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<v Speaker 4>the kingdoms that are going to come and go after Babylon.

646
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<v Speaker 4>Guess what they were written about four hundred years before

647
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:49.039
<v Speaker 4>they started to happen, which is why the skeptic and

648
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:51.280
<v Speaker 4>critics always trying to drag the Book of Daniel about

649
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 4>four hundred years into the future. Was that a theory

650
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:56.000
<v Speaker 4>or was it proven to be historical fact?

651
00:38:56.119 --> 00:39:00.039
<v Speaker 3>It's fact. JD. W.

652
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.519
<v Speaker 4>In the mid nineteen nineties, a way prophetic theory was

653
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<v Speaker 4>sweeping through American evangelical churches.

654
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<v Speaker 3>Tim Lahay and Jerry B.

655
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<v Speaker 4>Jenkins Blockbuster Left Behind books told the story of an

656
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:14.320
<v Speaker 4>impending apocalypse and were wildly popular in Dad's church. One

657
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<v Speaker 4>woman told me, I had handsome eyes, which might earn

658
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<v Speaker 4>me a beautiful wife if the Lord didn't come before

659
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 4>I was old enough to marry. A family member purchased

660
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<v Speaker 4>the popular televangelist John Hagey's Prophecy Study Bible, which fused

661
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<v Speaker 4>Hagey's prophetic theory with relevant passages from the New King

662
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:36.320
<v Speaker 4>James Bible. I watched telecast by Hagey and how Lindsey,

663
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<v Speaker 4>another famous apocalypse theorist. I became convinced the world would

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<v Speaker 4>end in two thousand and seven at the latest end. Quote, Well,

665
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<v Speaker 4>that's his problem. I don't think how Lindsay or Tim

666
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<v Speaker 4>lah Hay, we're telling you the world was going to

667
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<v Speaker 4>end in two thousand and seven, So jd if you

668
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<v Speaker 4>believe that, that comes from your own lack of discernment.

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<v Speaker 3>But isn't it interesting. I don't have to agree with

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<v Speaker 3>everything Hagey.

671
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<v Speaker 4>He stands for John Hagey, and I don't agree with

672
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<v Speaker 4>his more prosperity gospel, but I've heard John Hagey teach

673
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<v Speaker 4>very well on Bible prophecy and certain passages and get

674
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<v Speaker 4>it actually right. I'm sure I can find places where

675
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<v Speaker 4>I would not agree with him, and I don't agree

676
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<v Speaker 4>with his more prosperity gospel message at all, but I've

677
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<v Speaker 4>heard him actually lay out the Bible in Bible prophecy,

678
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<v Speaker 4>and from a standpoint of using proper tools of interpretation,

679
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:28.000
<v Speaker 4>he gets it right. Now when it comes to how Lindsay,

680
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<v Speaker 4>that's another guy. I don't have to agree with how

681
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<v Speaker 4>Lindsay on everything. I went saw How Lindsay's movie as

682
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<v Speaker 4>a child, The Late Great Planet Earth. But how Lindsay

683
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<v Speaker 4>did a great job in explaining Bible prophecy.

684
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<v Speaker 3>Did I always agree, No, but.

685
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<v Speaker 4>To call him another famous apocalypse theorist. Why because he's

686
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<v Speaker 4>telling you that we're headed toward this great culmination of

687
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<v Speaker 4>a battle between God and Satan, and we're also headed

688
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<v Speaker 4>for the battle of Armageddon, and then we're headed to

689
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<v Speaker 4>another great battle at the end of the millennium. I'm sorry, JD.

690
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<v Speaker 4>If you don't understand your Bible, that's your problem, not us. Well,

691
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<v Speaker 4>why do you want to insult Tim Lahay or al

692
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<v Speaker 4>Lindsay as apocalypse theorist. It's not theory if when you're

693
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<v Speaker 4>studying the Bible using scripture, to interpret scripture as scripture,

694
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<v Speaker 4>to confirm the scripture.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but think about the people, all the pastors in

696
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:27.599
<v Speaker 2>the country who have basically put Bible prophecy on the side,

697
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:31.360
<v Speaker 2>they won't teach it. I mean we're talking probably eighty

698
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.880
<v Speaker 2>plus percent of all the churches, all evangelical churches in

699
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:44.480
<v Speaker 2>America have abandoned Bible prophecy. Okay, So JD comes along

700
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:48.880
<v Speaker 2>and makes now the proposition that, well, you know, maybe

701
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:52.599
<v Speaker 2>it's just a theory. And so all these pastors who

702
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 2>are all you know, getting rid of the Bible prophecy

703
00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>in the first place, they oh, he agrees with us,

704
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.000
<v Speaker 2>we agree with him. Maybe we should look further into

705
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:09.039
<v Speaker 2>what he's saying. See, this is appealing. This book is

706
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<v Speaker 2>appealing to people who may be on the fence as

707
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<v Speaker 2>far as deception is concerned. In fact, there are probably

708
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<v Speaker 2>lots of pastors around the country who are probably still

709
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<v Speaker 2>teaching the Gospel, like the simple, the basic form of

710
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:30.440
<v Speaker 2>the Gospel, but they won't teach Bible prophecy. These I

711
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:36.320
<v Speaker 2>call these defence sitters. They're not purely teaching the whole Bible,

712
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:38.599
<v Speaker 2>but they get at least you can get there and

713
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:41.079
<v Speaker 2>get saved there in the church, but you won't get

714
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:46.519
<v Speaker 2>anything else. So this whole thing appeals to all these

715
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Christians who are following those types of pastors. And my

716
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:56.840
<v Speaker 2>guess is this could be wildly successful for him as

717
00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:01.360
<v Speaker 2>a draw to himself. You might remember the book The

718
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Shack that was released several years ago. What's the name

719
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:07.280
<v Speaker 2>of the author? I can't remember his name.

720
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:09.280
<v Speaker 3>I remember this was this.

721
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<v Speaker 2>This was the most blashemous book that I've ever read.

722
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I won't even say anything about it otherwise, but this

723
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:22.440
<v Speaker 2>book hit the Christian scene. Believe it or not, it

724
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:26.599
<v Speaker 2>was It was introduced into the Christian world by a

725
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:30.960
<v Speaker 2>pastor I won't say who it is, but a pastor

726
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:36.559
<v Speaker 2>who was a friend of this guy and he he

727
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.679
<v Speaker 2>he let that let him have an audience in the church,

728
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:41.800
<v Speaker 2>and the book took off all of a sudden, just

729
00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:45.039
<v Speaker 2>took off. It sold millions of copies around the world.

730
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<v Speaker 2>The shack is called don't read it, it's a it's

731
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:53.239
<v Speaker 2>a pit. But that appealed to people who were on

732
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.119
<v Speaker 2>the fence and they could tell a difference between deception

733
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.679
<v Speaker 2>and this truth. It took a lot of people away

734
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:04.360
<v Speaker 2>and just took them to destruction, if you will. This

735
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:06.800
<v Speaker 2>is this is the kind of book we're dealing with here.

736
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<v Speaker 2>I think it's that deceptive and people will read it

737
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<v Speaker 2>with their own skew. Remember we're talking about the type

738
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<v Speaker 2>of Christian who doesn't have any respect for bi prophecy

739
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 2>at all. These kind of people will read a book

740
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:28.360
<v Speaker 2>like this and say, you know what, this guy makes sense.

741
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:32.360
<v Speaker 2>I can follow him. And yeah, you'll follow him all

742
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:37.000
<v Speaker 2>right into the pit in the end. But this is

743
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:40.199
<v Speaker 2>this is the danger in this kind of a book.

744
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:43.400
<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to probably get read the whole thing

745
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:45.760
<v Speaker 2>cover to cover. I think I'm going to get the

746
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 2>physical books. I like the physical book, but I think

747
00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to read this thing just to make sure

748
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:54.039
<v Speaker 2>that I'm on the right track here. If this is

749
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:58.440
<v Speaker 2>a major book of deception that's being offered to the

750
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:02.719
<v Speaker 2>church at this point, we need to sound the alarm.

751
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:04.599
<v Speaker 2>That's all I can say. We need to we need

752
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 2>to warn people stay away. Well, you can read the book,

753
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:12.320
<v Speaker 2>but stay away from the the doctrine, Senate, don't take

754
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:17.079
<v Speaker 2>it as gospel truth for sure, and sharpen your pencil,

755
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:20.280
<v Speaker 2>get out of your Bible, and you know, look at

756
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:22.360
<v Speaker 2>it with a John Desie Well.

757
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<v Speaker 4>I can tell you, after doing some research, I can

758
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:26.719
<v Speaker 4>find no evidence.

759
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<v Speaker 3>To the contrary of this statement.

760
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:36.960
<v Speaker 4>Jade Vance appears to be the first Vice president, sitting

761
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:40.280
<v Speaker 4>vice president of the United States to ever write a

762
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 4>book while as a sitting vice president that attacks dispensational Christians.

763
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:49.559
<v Speaker 4>I can find no other VP that ever did that

764
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:50.360
<v Speaker 4>as a sitting VP.

765
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Ever.

766
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:54.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Ronald Reagan would have never done that.

767
00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't think.

768
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't think al Gore would have done that. I

769
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<v Speaker 4>think being from the state of Tennessee, al Gore and

770
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<v Speaker 4>these other folks on the Democrats, I would have understood,

771
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:11.760
<v Speaker 4>well enough, that's a voting block that I need. Yeah,

772
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:14.079
<v Speaker 4>here's what he writes too, Yeah, yea.

773
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<v Speaker 2>But Jade Vance, remember whatever he was before being vice president,

774
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:25.239
<v Speaker 2>he's been drawn into the cesspool, the spiritual cesspool in Washington,

775
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:29.800
<v Speaker 2>d C. With all the people surrounding Trump and like

776
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.440
<v Speaker 2>PAULA White and Doug Wilson and people like that, the

777
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:40.079
<v Speaker 2>nar movement and all the reconstruction crowd and the Dominuus crowd,

778
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:43.960
<v Speaker 2>all these people, this is where he's been sucked in

779
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:47.239
<v Speaker 2>to and undoubtedly it's going to have an effect on him,

780
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:50.519
<v Speaker 2>even if he doesn't say it outright, it's going to

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00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:55.039
<v Speaker 2>affect him because this is his political fishing pool at

782
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:55.519
<v Speaker 2>this point.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he writes on page twenty seven, just before I

784
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:01.920
<v Speaker 4>left for Iraq, attended a service at my sister's church,

785
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:05.239
<v Speaker 4>page twenty seven. The sermon that Sunday focused on the

786
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.119
<v Speaker 4>end times and why every person present must be prepared

787
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<v Speaker 4>for the second Coming of Christ.

788
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 3>I sat there in a silent rage.

789
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.119
<v Speaker 4>I looked around at the churchgoers, happy families and elderly

790
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:24.199
<v Speaker 4>couples and children, bored out other minds.

791
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Who are these people?

792
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:26.199
<v Speaker 2>I thought?

793
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:28.679
<v Speaker 3>Did they know any narcotics? Addicts.

794
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:32.159
<v Speaker 4>Did they labor under the crushing weight of loss and

795
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:35.239
<v Speaker 4>grief and worry? Had they, like me, ever, abandoned their

796
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:38.280
<v Speaker 4>families during their time of greatest need? I hated all

797
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:44.480
<v Speaker 4>of this, the complacency and the irrelevant sermons about the rapture?

798
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:47.519
<v Speaker 3>Ut JD.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I help you out here, Betty boy, There's a

800
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<v Speaker 4>difference between the rapture and the Second Coming.

801
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:55.039
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Apparently you don't know that.

802
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:58.519
<v Speaker 4>Because you just said you were sitting there listening to

803
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:01.320
<v Speaker 4>an end time sermon about the second Coming of Christ,

804
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:04.800
<v Speaker 4>and then you said you hated all of this, this

805
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:07.719
<v Speaker 4>complacency and irrelevant sermons about the rapture.

806
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:11.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't think JD knows the difference between the Second Coming.

807
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:11.480
<v Speaker 2>And the rapture.

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00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.280
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Jady, you're writing about things in which you have

809
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:22.400
<v Speaker 4>no knowledge. Okay, but why would you go out of

810
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:25.679
<v Speaker 4>your way again to say that that there's something wrong

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00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:29.519
<v Speaker 4>with a sermon on the second Coming of Christ. Christ

812
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.119
<v Speaker 4>is the blessed hope. One of the signs of a

813
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:36.519
<v Speaker 4>believer in John chapter the second Book of John, John

814
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:38.679
<v Speaker 4>chapter two are second John.

815
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Second John.

816
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:43.079
<v Speaker 4>One of the hallmarks of a Christian and Second John

817
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:47.480
<v Speaker 4>is they long for the Return of the Lord and

818
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.639
<v Speaker 4>you think it's irrelevant. That speaks to your spiritual condition.

819
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:52.599
<v Speaker 4>Of course we already know that because you run around

820
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:57.079
<v Speaker 4>talking to the dead. But this guy is also dangerous

821
00:48:57.519 --> 00:48:59.679
<v Speaker 4>from a standpoint of.

822
00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Who he promotes. In the book.

823
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:09.480
<v Speaker 4>He promotes a guy named Renee Gerard. Now we've done

824
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:12.039
<v Speaker 4>with him in the past because he's quite popular with

825
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:17.800
<v Speaker 4>the tech bros. He's quite popular with Peter Teel And

826
00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:25.280
<v Speaker 4>in this book he writes about him and he says

827
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<v Speaker 4>that Peter that Gerard is very rich in his catalog

828
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:42.119
<v Speaker 4>of information, very rich. Isn't enough time to get into it,

829
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:43.920
<v Speaker 4>but he wants you to know that he thinks that

830
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:46.719
<v Speaker 4>this guy is a real rich thinker. Now, if you

831
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<v Speaker 4>go to worldview Pedia and you do a little research,

832
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.719
<v Speaker 4>you'll find out who he is. But basically he was

833
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:59.519
<v Speaker 4>a French philosopher, and I would say that you could

834
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:03.840
<v Speaker 4>describe him as being one that really didn't understand. He's

835
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<v Speaker 4>a Catholic French fall officer who didn't understand the fall

836
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<v Speaker 4>of man and said that really what man was suffering

837
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<v Speaker 4>from was a mimicking of others. He would see what

838
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<v Speaker 4>others had and he wanted it. Success Or whatever it

839
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<v Speaker 4>might be, and all of this mimicking this psychological psychiatric

840
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<v Speaker 4>problem that's being described would end up leading to greed

841
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<v Speaker 4>and jealousy and violence, etc. He seems to really underplay

842
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 4>the idea of original sin. I don't know how much

843
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 4>you've spent studying time you spent studying Gerard Brene Gerard,

844
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:49.079
<v Speaker 4>but I've spent enough to know what his worldview is.

845
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:52.320
<v Speaker 4>And here's here is jd Vance telling how rich is

846
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:59.519
<v Speaker 4>this guy's catalog of information. He also undermines the Gospel

847
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:02.000
<v Speaker 4>story and so many other things. I could say it's

848
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:03.239
<v Speaker 4>a neo Christianity.

849
00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Would you agree?

850
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I will? And remember I'm associated with Courtney Turner. That's

851
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:13.199
<v Speaker 2>the philosopher of the room. Right. She won't let me,

852
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:16.599
<v Speaker 2>she won't let me lose without hearing these things. You know,

853
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:21.239
<v Speaker 2>she just fills my cup all the time. But listen

854
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:26.159
<v Speaker 2>to what he mentioned Gerard, I think over twenty twenty

855
00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:31.440
<v Speaker 2>times in book. I can't tell you because I have

856
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:34.119
<v Speaker 2>the Kindle version. It doesn't give me the page numbers.

857
00:51:34.440 --> 00:51:37.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, that's right, but well, yeah, let me let

858
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:41.239
<v Speaker 2>me just read this paragraph to you. This is how

859
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:47.079
<v Speaker 2>he explains Girard's position to Gerard. He says, the Christian

860
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:54.280
<v Speaker 2>story contains a critical difference from other scapegoats myths, a

861
00:51:54.400 --> 00:52:00.360
<v Speaker 2>difference that reveals thing quote things hidden sense to foundation

862
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:04.400
<v Speaker 2>of the world quote end quote. And the Christian telling

863
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:11.079
<v Speaker 2>the scapegoat defeats the judgment of the mob. The victim

864
00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:15.519
<v Speaker 2>is infinitely powerful, able to prevent his own murder, and

865
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:23.679
<v Speaker 2>perfectly perfectly innocent, undeserving of the crowd's rage and violence.

866
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:27.440
<v Speaker 2>He submitted himself to death and then he conquered it.

867
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:36.760
<v Speaker 2>He's siding with an absolute heretic here, Renee Girard. This

868
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:40.840
<v Speaker 2>guy's off the wall, but he thought enough of him.

869
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:44.960
<v Speaker 2>And in fact, that's the only intersection philosophically we have

870
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:48.960
<v Speaker 2>with Peter Tiel, because Peter Tiel is not he's not

871
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.159
<v Speaker 2>a Catholic, he doesn't identify with the Catholic Church at all.

872
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:58.199
<v Speaker 2>But Gerard was a Catholic, so they both can we

873
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.960
<v Speaker 2>see the intersection between both of them through Gerard at

874
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:03.400
<v Speaker 2>this point.

875
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:07.559
<v Speaker 4>So, in other words, Christ becomes basically the victim of

876
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:12.840
<v Speaker 4>a mob mentality, then the willing sacrifice for sin.

877
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:18.920
<v Speaker 2>That's right, Yeah, there was no no divine will evolved here.

878
00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:21.000
<v Speaker 2>There was a mob that killed him.

879
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Versus I laid down my life willingly.

880
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that's right, he says. J.

881
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:33.239
<v Speaker 4>D Vance says, George's thought catalog is rich enough.

882
00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:35.079
<v Speaker 3>That my summary won't do it justice.

883
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:38.559
<v Speaker 2>He's a big fan. He's a big.

884
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:45.679
<v Speaker 4>Now let's move to what I think is really communism light.

885
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:51.840
<v Speaker 4>I would call it corporate fascism in this book, and

886
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:53.679
<v Speaker 4>I got some clips to play as well.

887
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:55.000
<v Speaker 2>In this book.

888
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:58.159
<v Speaker 3>Jd Vance is really big on the unions.

889
00:53:58.599 --> 00:53:59.920
<v Speaker 2>He loves the union.

890
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:05.079
<v Speaker 4>He also is really big on laws where the government

891
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:09.119
<v Speaker 4>is now going to regulate what we can and cannot do.

892
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:14.440
<v Speaker 4>When it comes to the holidays, he's very much in

893
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:19.719
<v Speaker 4>favor of laws that would shut down businesses on say, Thanksgiving.

894
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:22.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you've caught any of that in

895
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 4>the book. He says on page two twenty eight, quote

896
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:32.360
<v Speaker 4>I supported blue laws, state laws that shut down businesses

897
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:36.159
<v Speaker 4>on certain days like Thanksgiving, because these days are sacred

898
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.960
<v Speaker 4>and everyone ought to be able to participate in them equally.

899
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:41.559
<v Speaker 4>In quote wa, he goes to say, quote, but we've

900
00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:45.719
<v Speaker 4>got a long way to go. In quote, let me

901
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:49.119
<v Speaker 4>tell you something. What are you gonna do with the firefighter,

902
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 4>the police officer, the emergency room, doctor, okay, And the

903
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:57.719
<v Speaker 4>government has no business telling a business that you have

904
00:54:57.800 --> 00:54:59.920
<v Speaker 4>to shut down on Thanksgiving. We live in a free

905
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:04.679
<v Speaker 4>market society, okay. And if we're going to shut down

906
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:06.239
<v Speaker 4>and have a law that says you have to shut

907
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:09.079
<v Speaker 4>down for Thanksgiving and you have to shut down for Christmas,

908
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:11.199
<v Speaker 4>well then how long before we're shutting down for the

909
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:15.679
<v Speaker 4>Hindu religions or the Islamic religions? And at what point

910
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:17.559
<v Speaker 4>are we not becoming a theocracy?

911
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Right?

912
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.719
<v Speaker 4>The free market should decide. Maybe some people are like,

913
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be home for Christmas. I got

914
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:30.679
<v Speaker 4>this dysfunctional family. It brings up bad times, bad memories.

915
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:32.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm more than happy to work to get through it

916
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:35.119
<v Speaker 4>as fast as I can. And you know what, I'll

917
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:37.440
<v Speaker 4>take the time in the half or the double time.

918
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:40.559
<v Speaker 4>And that's how the free market decides it. Or maybe

919
00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:42.400
<v Speaker 4>it will say I love Christmas and I'd love to

920
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:45.079
<v Speaker 4>be with my family, but I need that extra pay.

921
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:47.719
<v Speaker 4>I'll go in and work for that double time or

922
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:49.880
<v Speaker 4>time and a half because I need that money to

923
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:52.480
<v Speaker 4>pay bills. I needed it to pay for the Christmas

924
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:54.719
<v Speaker 4>gifts that went on to the present this morning, under

925
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:56.440
<v Speaker 4>the present that went under the tree this morning. The

926
00:55:56.519 --> 00:56:01.000
<v Speaker 4>free market decides this, not the government. This dude, is

927
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:03.920
<v Speaker 4>I believe a You know, all the people run around

928
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:07.440
<v Speaker 4>saying magus fascism, No, just certain people in it are.

929
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:09.159
<v Speaker 3>And I would say that jd.

930
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:13.639
<v Speaker 4>Vance, in my opinion, is a corporate fascist. He's a technocrat.

931
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:15.320
<v Speaker 4>Which is fascism true or false?

932
00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:22.559
<v Speaker 2>It looks like at this point, but remember what we

933
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:25.559
<v Speaker 2>needed full He didn't mention Curtis Jarvin in his book.

934
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:27.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he did at all.

935
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:28.519
<v Speaker 3>I have not seen his name.

936
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:31.519
<v Speaker 4>He mentioned Peter Dark I was a Christian, But isn't

937
00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Peter Thal also a homosexual?

938
00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:38.440
<v Speaker 2>He is? Yeah, go figure, and that's not a very

939
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:41.280
<v Speaker 2>very plugged in Christian for sure. He doesn't know the

940
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Bible at all. He talks talking about the anti Christ

941
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:48.039
<v Speaker 2>and lectures all over the world, including in ram but

942
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:54.079
<v Speaker 2>who knows what he's talking about. But Peter Teal or

943
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:57.639
<v Speaker 2>excuse me. Jd. Vance has been a big fan of

944
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Curtis Jarvin in the Dark Enlightenment. And so when we

945
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:06.000
<v Speaker 2>talk when we talk about the philosophy behind in his

946
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:09.559
<v Speaker 2>in his mind, when we talk about fascism or other

947
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:13.719
<v Speaker 2>even technocracy, you have to you have to ask the

948
00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:16.280
<v Speaker 2>question what what is he what is he thinking? Is

949
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:21.119
<v Speaker 2>he really buying into Curtis Jarvin's theories because Peter Chield

950
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:28.920
<v Speaker 2>is obviously Peter. Remember, Curtis Jarvin wants us to ditch

951
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:34.480
<v Speaker 2>democracy all the other to completely destroy it and install

952
00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:39.280
<v Speaker 2>a monarch to run our country. He wants to he

953
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:43.000
<v Speaker 2>wants to take all the private property away from people

954
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:46.280
<v Speaker 2>and give it to the sovereign corporation, he said. And

955
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:50.239
<v Speaker 2>he wants to have a monarch run run the whole

956
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:54.159
<v Speaker 2>thing like a startup in Silicon Valley. That's exactly what

957
00:57:54.280 --> 00:58:01.440
<v Speaker 2>he said. So when he analyze where Vance is coming from,

958
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:04.880
<v Speaker 2>we have to take that. In fact, it's not it's

959
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:10.639
<v Speaker 2>not just about merging business with government. But it's basically

960
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:14.679
<v Speaker 2>the technocrats, the tech bros, that arch technocrats of Washington, DC,

961
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:19.800
<v Speaker 2>like Peter Thiel, who basically is supporting the idea we're

962
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.719
<v Speaker 2>just going to take over everything from top to bottom,

963
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and we'll tell you what to do, and you just

964
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:25.159
<v Speaker 2>do it.

965
00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:27.840
<v Speaker 4>And and if they are on the wrong side of

966
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:30.920
<v Speaker 4>an issue, we'll just seize your stuff.

967
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:35.159
<v Speaker 2>There's there's no you're right, there's no no other you know.

968
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 3>We have him on audio and video saying that.

969
00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:42.360
<v Speaker 4>We have JD Vance on videos saying if we don't

970
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:44.119
<v Speaker 4>like if you're on the wrong side of a culture

971
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:45.039
<v Speaker 4>war issue.

972
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:46.280
<v Speaker 3>We'll just seize your stuff.

973
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:47.559
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

974
00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:48.519
<v Speaker 3>Would you like to see it?

975
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's let's look at it.

976
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:51.239
<v Speaker 3>Here we go.

977
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:55.519
<v Speaker 5>A lot of concernatives that said we should deconstruct the

978
00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:59.199
<v Speaker 5>administrative state, we should basically eliminate the administrative state. And

979
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:01.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm sympathetic to that project. But another option is that

980
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:04.440
<v Speaker 5>we should just seize the administrative state for own purposes.

981
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:07.320
<v Speaker 7>Why don't we seize the assets of the Ford Foundation.

982
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:10.440
<v Speaker 5>Harvard University endowment pays a zero percent tax rate. Maybe

983
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:14.280
<v Speaker 5>it's time to tax that endowment, seize the endowment, actually

984
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:18.000
<v Speaker 5>penalize these endowments for being on the wrong side of

985
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:21.519
<v Speaker 5>some of these cultural issues. But the basic idea here

986
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:25.039
<v Speaker 5>is the left season entity that's aligned with the right,

987
00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:28.559
<v Speaker 5>the left punishes it. The right season entity that is

988
00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:31.159
<v Speaker 5>aligned with the left, we run away, We refuse to

989
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:31.679
<v Speaker 5>do anything.

990
00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:33.360
<v Speaker 2>That is what we have to stop.

991
00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:35.960
<v Speaker 3>We have to be willing to actually fight these companies

992
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:36.920
<v Speaker 3>with fire.

993
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:38.920
<v Speaker 7>I think the basic ideas that we have to seize

994
00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:41.079
<v Speaker 7>the institutions and make them actually work for our people.

995
00:59:41.800 --> 00:59:44.719
<v Speaker 7>I tend to think that we should seize the institutions

996
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:46.599
<v Speaker 7>of the left and turn them against the left. Right,

997
00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:50.239
<v Speaker 7>we need like a debatification program, but like a de

998
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:52.400
<v Speaker 7>wocification program in the United States.

999
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:55.519
<v Speaker 4>Right, Wow, he wants to use the power of government

1000
00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:58.280
<v Speaker 4>to seize the property and bank accountsil groups he doesn't

1001
00:59:58.280 --> 00:59:58.599
<v Speaker 4>agree with.

1002
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:00.440
<v Speaker 3>How does that any different than left?

1003
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:02.559
<v Speaker 4>You know, this is a guy on the right doing

1004
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:04.920
<v Speaker 4>what the left says they want to do, and and

1005
01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:08.679
<v Speaker 4>that is he's so dumb as to realize that once

1006
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:11.599
<v Speaker 4>you do that, you're gonna have nothing to say when

1007
01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:13.280
<v Speaker 4>the right, when the left does it, when the next

1008
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:14.920
<v Speaker 4>guy is in power, when the left is empowered, they

1009
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.199
<v Speaker 4>do it. What are you gonna say, j D, I mean,

1010
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:20.480
<v Speaker 4>where where is thou shall not steal? Okay, we may

1011
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:22.760
<v Speaker 4>not like what the left is doing, but we have

1012
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 4>this idea in our country of private property and freedom

1013
01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:29.599
<v Speaker 4>of speech, and we don't need to seize their stuff.

1014
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:35.239
<v Speaker 4>We need to engage in the arena of debate, of

1015
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:39.519
<v Speaker 4>ideas of debating. But no, he wants to seize their stuff.

1016
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:42.480
<v Speaker 4>And how well do you think that's going to work out?

1017
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:45.320
<v Speaker 4>Wind rings?

1018
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:48.199
<v Speaker 2>If he if he if he, if he disagrees with

1019
01:00:48.360 --> 01:00:52.000
<v Speaker 2>what we're saying here about this, and that you know

1020
01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:55.239
<v Speaker 2>is he is he in a position to say we

1021
01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:59.679
<v Speaker 2>should just seize their stuff in particular because we're we're

1022
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:05.159
<v Speaker 2>writing a poisoned narrative against him basically, you know, JD. Vance.

1023
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:10.840
<v Speaker 2>You can see just how scared he is to die

1024
01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:15.440
<v Speaker 2>in this book. I picked this threat up. And here's

1025
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the guy who has probably an inkling that God may

1026
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:24.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe will be the judge in the end of him personally,

1027
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:30.320
<v Speaker 2>but he's probably ignoring the whole thing. And if he hasn't,

1028
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:32.960
<v Speaker 2>if he has a notion that there is a judge

1029
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:36.440
<v Speaker 2>and at the end of the road and he's going

1030
01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:42.039
<v Speaker 2>to be subject to that, you know, this is the

1031
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:48.679
<v Speaker 2>suppression of the ages of mankind to try to escape

1032
01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:51.719
<v Speaker 2>the hand of the judge in the end. And he's

1033
01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I see this all over this book and all over

1034
01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:59.559
<v Speaker 2>his the things he talks about like this, you know,

1035
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:03.000
<v Speaker 2>see all these assets of everybody that's crazy.

1036
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:08.320
<v Speaker 4>His book is just folks, save your money. It's boring,

1037
01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:12.519
<v Speaker 4>is poorly written, it's all over the place. It's the

1038
01:02:12.679 --> 01:02:15.159
<v Speaker 4>ramblings of a guy trying to figure out what he believes.

1039
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:21.760
<v Speaker 4>It is misinformation, it's it's it's it's juvenile writing.

1040
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:23.920
<v Speaker 3>It really is. It's juvenile.

1041
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:27.559
<v Speaker 4>It's the rantings of a of a of a very

1042
01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:29.280
<v Speaker 4>immature person in my belief.

1043
01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:30.519
<v Speaker 3>Would you agree with that?

1044
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:33.559
<v Speaker 2>I would agree with it. And you know the only

1045
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:37.119
<v Speaker 2>reason you want to buy the book is to read

1046
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:39.960
<v Speaker 2>it and then be able to explain the errors in

1047
01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the book to your Christian friends who might be in

1048
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:46.239
<v Speaker 2>that kind of a church, you know that doesn't want

1049
01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:49.599
<v Speaker 2>to talk about Bible prophecy and they think this guy

1050
01:02:49.719 --> 01:02:53.679
<v Speaker 2>is great. Wise him up, you know, to take take

1051
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:57.480
<v Speaker 2>him chapter and verse, if you will, apart and point it,

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<v Speaker 2>point out in the book where he's wrong, and say,

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<v Speaker 2>don't follow this guy, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me go to a clip because I think this

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<v Speaker 4>is also very instructive for his analysis on economics. Watch

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<v Speaker 4>what he says.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's yeah, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, you know, I am.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like maybe super heterodox.

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<v Speaker 7>I am not sure that I think the reserve currency

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<v Speaker 7>is actually good for the United States of America. I

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<v Speaker 7>think there is a good argument the reserve currency status

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<v Speaker 7>is akin to coal in Appalachia.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a resource curse, right.

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<v Speaker 7>It allows your consumers to consume very cheaply.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>That's been the story of the America economy within the

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<v Speaker 7>last fifteen or so years, even before that, is, we

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<v Speaker 7>can just borrow basically in an unlimited way because we

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<v Speaker 7>have the reserve currency.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's a stupid statement. Listen to this.

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<v Speaker 7>Consumers to consume very cheaply allows your consumers to consume

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<v Speaker 7>very cheaply.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>That's been the story of the America economy with your

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01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:02.280
<v Speaker 7>last fifteen or so year years even before that, is,

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01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:05.679
<v Speaker 7>we can just borrow basically in an unlimited way because

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01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:06.920
<v Speaker 7>we have the reserve currency.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's a dumb statement. That shows he doesn't really

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<v Speaker 4>understand economics. Because when you just keep borring money and

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<v Speaker 4>borring money, which we're really not. We're printing it, we're

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01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:17.920
<v Speaker 4>buying our own bonds, we're buying our own bonds, we're

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01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:21.320
<v Speaker 4>buying our own debt. That doesn't allow the consumer to

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<v Speaker 4>buy cheaply.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>That's called inflation.

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<v Speaker 4>And John Mader Keines again said, by this continuous process

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<v Speaker 4>of inflation, we can steal the majority of that people's

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01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:35.639
<v Speaker 4>wealth and not one man in a million will know

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01:04:35.719 --> 01:04:40.800
<v Speaker 4>what we're doing. It debases your dollar. Borroing money as

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01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:43.760
<v Speaker 4>a government over and over and over and over does

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<v Speaker 4>not make the goods cheap for the consumer. He really

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<v Speaker 4>is a dingling. He is an absolute dingling. I'm starting

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01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:52.679
<v Speaker 4>to think he probably he may he may not actually

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01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:55.079
<v Speaker 4>have earned those degrees. He may have actually been put

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<v Speaker 4>through by the deep state the way I think Obama

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01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:02.800
<v Speaker 4>was put through Colombia. Because we've had on, Hey, Logan,

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<v Speaker 4>what's the name of the dude out of Vegas? We've

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<v Speaker 4>had on so many times Wayne Allen Root. Hasn't he

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<v Speaker 4>been on the show several times talking about how he

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01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:13.480
<v Speaker 4>was at Columbia the same time Obama was, and Obama's

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01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:16.559
<v Speaker 4>nowhere to be found, uh huh. And he was supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to have been there at the graduation, you know, nowhere.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, in my opinion, Obama is a creation of

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01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:26.360
<v Speaker 4>the deep state. I don't think he really went through

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01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:27.960
<v Speaker 4>those schools. So of those schools and got the degrees,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not so sure this clown did either, because he

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01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:32.519
<v Speaker 4>seems he's so stupid in my opinion, he doesn't even

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01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:35.039
<v Speaker 4>understand that he's sitting there saying that good goods are

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<v Speaker 4>cheap for the consumers.

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<v Speaker 3>What when we just borrow, borrow, borrow, barrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that means print, print, print, which means inflation, which

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01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:41.440
<v Speaker 4>means the goods aren't cheap.

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<v Speaker 3>Has the moron bought a gallon of milk lately?

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick, I don't know if he drinks milk, but I

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01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:53.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>If you disagree with it any I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I don't. But I wonder if his wife,

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01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:03.079
<v Speaker 2>she's a Hindoo. I believe yes she is from what

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<v Speaker 2>I read. I don't know if Hindus drink milk or not.

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01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:07.920
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just I'm just.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they're busy worshiping the cows, so maybe they don't drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Why now, exactly right, they don't kill they don't eat

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01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:14.000
<v Speaker 2>steaks for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>What's that?

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01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:15.599
<v Speaker 2>Logan?

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01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:23.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh, his brother's drinking. Who drinks milk?

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01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Logan?

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01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:26.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh, one of her family members drinks milk?

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01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:29.039
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh, he can't drink.

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<v Speaker 4>The cow might be one of the family members. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, thank you, thank you. I'm trying to keep up, logan,

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01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:37.400
<v Speaker 4>thank you. I'm getting tired. H Listen to this page

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<v Speaker 4>two forty by Jade Vans quote. Now he's talking about

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01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:49.519
<v Speaker 4>the issue of why he's in favor of basically forcing

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<v Speaker 4>companies to provide maternity leave and pay for it. Now,

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01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:02.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm not a fan of that. Okay, I was dealing

1139
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:05.280
<v Speaker 4>business with a dude last week and he wasn't getting

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01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:07.480
<v Speaker 4>us a bid, wasn't getting us a bid, wasn't getting.

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01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:07.599
<v Speaker 3>Us a bid.

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<v Speaker 4>Finally I found out the dude was on maternity leave,

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01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:12.159
<v Speaker 4>and I said, really he had a baby, did he?

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01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Well?

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01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:16.039
<v Speaker 4>No, his wife did, like, well, good, she can be

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01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:17.800
<v Speaker 4>on attorney to leave. He needs to get his rear

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01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:19.440
<v Speaker 4>impact to his desk and do his job or do

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01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:20.000
<v Speaker 4>it from home.

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01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:21.000
<v Speaker 3>But this idea of a.

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01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:23.840
<v Speaker 4>Man on maternity leave, are you kidding me? And who's

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01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:27.320
<v Speaker 4>paying for that? He's ever as a Central Radio today?

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01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Do you think John Wayne wasn't on set.

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01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:37.679
<v Speaker 4>Because he had to on the Green Berets. I'm sorry,

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01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:41.239
<v Speaker 4>but Fellows elect to be there, but I'm on maternity leave. No,

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01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:44.800
<v Speaker 4>why is a man on attorney to leave?

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01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:46.239
<v Speaker 3>All right? Man?

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01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:48.480
<v Speaker 4>Uh, we don't need men being paid to be on

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01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:51.000
<v Speaker 4>attorney leave. Okay, you didn't have the baby, and you

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01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:52.920
<v Speaker 4>can work from home or whatever your company let you.

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01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:55.000
<v Speaker 4>But I shouldn't have to pay for that, nor the woman.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to have a job, great, you want to

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01:07:57.280 --> 01:07:59.280
<v Speaker 4>have babies I'm all four people having children.

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<v Speaker 3>But when it's time to have the child, you get

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01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:02.960
<v Speaker 3>off work, you take the two.

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<v Speaker 4>Three weeks a month whatever it is you want, and

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01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:08.360
<v Speaker 4>you personal time, vacation time, and you go do that.

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01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:10.320
<v Speaker 4>But I'm not paying you to do that, and you

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01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:13.039
<v Speaker 4>shouldn't force me as an employer to pay for it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well though it's not very noise, Well I'm sorry. We

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01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:19.680
<v Speaker 4>don't make laws based on what's nice what's not nice,

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01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:22.039
<v Speaker 4>because that's subjective. We make it on the issue of

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01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:28.640
<v Speaker 4>private property and your money and your company is private property.

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<v Speaker 4>And if they don't want to pay for attorney to leave,

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01:08:31.039 --> 01:08:31.800
<v Speaker 4>then don't work there.

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01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:34.199
<v Speaker 3>So the benefits aren't what I want.

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01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:37.079
<v Speaker 4>I'll go somewhere else, and you can shop around and

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01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:39.960
<v Speaker 4>find an employer that says we'll give you. You're such

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01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:42.760
<v Speaker 4>a great employee, your resume looks so great. We'd love

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01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:44.600
<v Speaker 4>to have you on our team. We'll pay for attorney leave.

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01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:46.159
<v Speaker 4>But another company to say no, I don't want to

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01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:51.159
<v Speaker 4>do that, and that's your right. That's a free market. Well,

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01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:53.199
<v Speaker 4>listen to what he writes. Just gives you an idea

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01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:54.640
<v Speaker 4>of more of what you're in store for. This guy

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01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:57.880
<v Speaker 4>becomes president, gets his way, he seems to really want

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01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:00.439
<v Speaker 4>to use the power of the government to set up

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01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:06.159
<v Speaker 4>his own economic system. This type of he's talking about

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01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:09.560
<v Speaker 4>the case for life with all the obligations it implies,

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01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:13.319
<v Speaker 4>means less time at work and when having babies is

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<v Speaker 4>a drag on economic activity. The economic gods favor terminating pregnancies.

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<v Speaker 4>And of course it's not just the act of having

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01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:24.159
<v Speaker 4>children that we ought not to be concerned about, ought

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<v Speaker 4>to be concerned about, it's spending time with them as well.

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<v Speaker 4>This type of logic exists across the political spectrum, and

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01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:35.319
<v Speaker 4>a piece for the libertarian Cato Institute, Vanessa Brown Calder

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<v Speaker 4>makes an argument against mandatory paid parental leave benefits. Quote Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 4>a review of states and countries with government mandated paid

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01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:50.239
<v Speaker 4>leave programs indicates they harm young women, whether they're available

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<v Speaker 4>to fathers or not. This is because parntal leave policies

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<v Speaker 4>are associated with an increase in leave taking and childbearing,

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01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:02.479
<v Speaker 4>which leads to lost life or increased healthcare costs for companies.

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<v Speaker 4>In quote, it's just a matter of fact, he says.

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<v Speaker 4>If you think about this argument for a second, even

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01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:15.720
<v Speaker 4>a second, it's astonishing. Hey, pernal leave is bad for women,

1204
01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:19.039
<v Speaker 4>and the reason it's bad for them is that it

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01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:22.880
<v Speaker 4>might lead to increased labor or healthcare costs for their employers.

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01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:27.680
<v Speaker 4>Never have I read a pure, a pure disolation of

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01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:29.039
<v Speaker 4>our worship.

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<v Speaker 3>At the altar of commerce.

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<v Speaker 4>Never have I read a pure dissolation of our worship

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01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:42.760
<v Speaker 4>at the altar of commerce. Yet, if Colder is to

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01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:48.159
<v Speaker 4>be commended for a starkness that borders on psychopathy, much

1212
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:51.279
<v Speaker 4>of the economic language around children and family comes to

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01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:52.960
<v Speaker 4>basically the same conclusion.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote, Wow, the woman is involved in.

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<v Speaker 4>Psychopathy because she's as opposed to the government mandating healthcare

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01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:05.920
<v Speaker 4>and what you have to pay people.

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01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:08.520
<v Speaker 3>You know what he talks about over and over in

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01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:08.960
<v Speaker 3>this book.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the job of the government to make the corporations

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<v Speaker 4>pay a livable wage.

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<v Speaker 3>Who decides what's a livable wage? Patrick m h.

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<v Speaker 4>He says, given out destructive pregnancies children, and policies that

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01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:26.560
<v Speaker 4>encourage either of them are we might consider a.

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01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:27.680
<v Speaker 3>More modest proposal.

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<v Speaker 4>If large household sizes mean smaller per person consumption, we

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01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:36.600
<v Speaker 4>shouldn't just discourage birthing children. We need to do something

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<v Speaker 4>about the ones that are already here. Politicians. Politicians aim

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01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:43.600
<v Speaker 4>tax cuts and spending programs that people to give them

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01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:46.239
<v Speaker 4>more money to buy things and boost economic growth.

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<v Speaker 3>But we may as well cut all that middleman. Cut

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01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:50.279
<v Speaker 3>out that middleman.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go around to every household and ship their youngest

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01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:59.199
<v Speaker 4>child to China. Yes, the separation will inevitably costs some grief,

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01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:04.199
<v Speaker 4>but just what we'll do for her capita income. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>American parents, freed from the burden of raising this extra child,

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01:12:07.880 --> 01:12:09.800
<v Speaker 4>will be able to spend more time at work win

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01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:14.199
<v Speaker 4>when end quote. Of course he's being facetious. That's again

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01:12:14.279 --> 01:12:17.800
<v Speaker 4>the juvenile nature of this man. He can't even make

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01:12:17.880 --> 01:12:22.039
<v Speaker 4>an argument without going to calling the woman who put

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01:12:22.079 --> 01:12:26.239
<v Speaker 4>this out as it borders on psychopathy. And then, oh,

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01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:28.359
<v Speaker 4>why don't we just go around complicate people's children to

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01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:30.119
<v Speaker 4>send them to China if you're so worried about her

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01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:33.479
<v Speaker 4>capita income. Look, we're talking about serious issues of freedom

1244
01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:36.479
<v Speaker 4>and economics and America and private property. But he's already

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01:12:36.479 --> 01:12:39.000
<v Speaker 4>told us in this book over and over that he

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01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:41.600
<v Speaker 4>wants the government to force all kinds of things, including

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01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:43.840
<v Speaker 4>whether or not your company can be open on Thanksgiving

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01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:44.760
<v Speaker 4>or any other holiday.

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01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:45.760
<v Speaker 3>And he's already told.

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01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:47.680
<v Speaker 4>Us, hey, don't you're on the wrong side of the

1251
01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:51.159
<v Speaker 4>culture war. We'll seize your stuff and again, tell me

1252
01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:57.319
<v Speaker 4>how that's not the new aposthelic reformation, reconstructionist, dominionist, Doug

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01:12:57.399 --> 01:12:59.920
<v Speaker 4>Phillips and other people, right, Patrick.

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01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. You know everybody there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a song years ago from a group called Tears

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01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:15.880
<v Speaker 2>for Fears. The title of the song was everybody wants

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01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:19.720
<v Speaker 2>to rule the world. And you know, everybody has their

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01:13:19.760 --> 01:13:23.199
<v Speaker 2>own private ideas and what they would do if they

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01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:27.760
<v Speaker 2>rule the world. Peter, Peter Tiele and JD. Vatts are

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01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:32.479
<v Speaker 2>very closely aligned and their and their philosophy about how

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<v Speaker 2>to rule the world. And uh, this taken all together,

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<v Speaker 2>this would be not not only the kiss of death

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<v Speaker 2>for our country as we knew it in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's it will turn us into basically a scientific

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<v Speaker 2>gulag run by algorithm rhythm where everything is managed, all

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<v Speaker 2>the resources are managed from top to bottom, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>just one of the resources to be managed. And they'll

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<v Speaker 2>take that into into account. You know, how much how

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<v Speaker 2>much output you have versus what inputs that you have

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<v Speaker 2>to have, and if you don't meet make their their

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<v Speaker 2>their equation balance, they'll find out some way to get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of you. This is very the very this is

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<v Speaker 2>the essence of dystopianism.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just loogan. Do we have the video of him

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<v Speaker 3>talking to the dead at the Temple of the Dead. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I tried, it didn't turn out well. All right. Listen

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<v Speaker 3>at page two nine, two nine. One of the jobs,

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<v Speaker 3>here's JD.

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<v Speaker 4>Evans quote. One of the jobs of a Christian statesman

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<v Speaker 4>is to preserve the very social cohesion that makes charity

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<v Speaker 4>and generosity possible.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not the job of government. The job of government

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<v Speaker 4>is not to make the make charity and generosity possible.

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<v Speaker 4>The job of government is to reward the righteous, punish

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<v Speaker 4>the wicked, and make a stable andjust society. Nowhere in

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<v Speaker 4>our founding documents to say the purpose of government is

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<v Speaker 4>to impose things on people and companies so that charity

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<v Speaker 4>and generosity is possible. If someone wants to be stingy,

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<v Speaker 4>that's their business. They would be selfish, that's their business.

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<v Speaker 4>Is charity and generosity?

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<v Speaker 2>Good?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But that's not the job of the government to

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<v Speaker 4>run around and monitor or make an environment where people

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<v Speaker 4>can be quote generous or charitable, because again, who defines

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<v Speaker 4>that term. The purpose of government is to allow for

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<v Speaker 4>the practice of individual liberties and freedoms. And sometimes that

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<v Speaker 4>means things we agree with and things we don't agree with.

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<v Speaker 4>And if someone wants to keep all their money and

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<v Speaker 4>not be charitable and not be generous, that's their right.

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<v Speaker 4>They can answer to God for it. It's not the

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<v Speaker 4>government his business to be pushing that on to private

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<v Speaker 4>citizens and businesses. Yeah, and then he quotes the Pope

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<v Speaker 4>Hope Leo the thirteenth, not to be confused with the

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<v Speaker 4>current dude that runs around in a white dress. Hope

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<v Speaker 4>Leo the thirteenth. He defended private property, but with significant limits.

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<v Speaker 4>He wrote earlier about how Pope Leo the thirteenth was

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<v Speaker 4>critical of communism and capitalism.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what is the alternative?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 4>It's called third way communitarianism. He says, No man, this

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<v Speaker 4>is jade Van speaking.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote.

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<v Speaker 4>No man has the right to deny another a living wage,

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<v Speaker 4>he wrote, speaking about the Pope. And this is one

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<v Speaker 4>reason that Catholics, along with many Protestants, have historically supported

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<v Speaker 4>the right of workers to form labor unions. In quote,

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<v Speaker 4>let me tell you something. If you if you you

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<v Speaker 4>want to form a union, fine, But the problem is

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<v Speaker 4>that when you start using unions and strikes to try

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<v Speaker 4>to break the back of free companies to do what's

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<v Speaker 4>in their right to do, either hire, not hire, or

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<v Speaker 4>give benefits. Certain benefits are not certain benefits. That's again

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<v Speaker 4>an issue of the free market. Then go get a

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<v Speaker 4>job from someone that will give you the extra benefits

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<v Speaker 4>you want. The communists love the unions. He talks a

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<v Speaker 4>lot about how much he loves the unions, how important

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<v Speaker 4>they are. But who again decides. He says, no man

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<v Speaker 4>has a right to deny another a living wage. Who

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<v Speaker 4>defines a living wage? Remember this is the same guy

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<v Speaker 4>that wants to force companies to have to shut down

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<v Speaker 4>on certain days. He goes on to say, when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to immigration, certain economic skill sets are higher in demand.

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<v Speaker 4>As you can probably tell, I tend to favor a

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<v Speaker 4>low level of immigration in the hope that a period

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<v Speaker 4>of assimilation and integration will lessen the social division of

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<v Speaker 4>modern America. But regardless of where you set the level,

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<v Speaker 4>you might expect a resident of Guatemala City who speaks

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<v Speaker 4>fluent English to contribute more quickly to the United States

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<v Speaker 4>than a resident of Rule Guatemala who can't even read

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<v Speaker 4>or write in Spanish and he goes on a layout

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<v Speaker 4>what his view is on immigration, And again, I think

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<v Speaker 4>where we're going here is you're going to see the

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<v Speaker 4>technocrats want biometrics, open borders and come and go. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's where we're going. There's so much more here.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to come in on what I just said though,

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<v Speaker 4>about the idea of every no man has a right

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<v Speaker 4>to deny another man of a living wage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Really? You know Peter til And he's been run

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<v Speaker 2>around talking about the Antichrist and he's criticizing even the

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<v Speaker 2>pope or who has the who has the huspah to

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<v Speaker 2>criticize the pope on anything at least at least the

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<v Speaker 2>public figure like Peter Teal. But uh, what he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>What Peter TiAl is talking about, the Antichrist will be

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<v Speaker 2>will be manifested by a one world government or by Ludites,

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<v Speaker 2>that's people who don't like technology, who aim to stop

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<v Speaker 2>or slow technical technological progress. With a subtext and several

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<v Speaker 2>uh pro evocative comments he made at the Aspen Ideas

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<v Speaker 2>Festival in Colorado. This the Aspen Institute is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the major major platforms for global So when he talks

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<v Speaker 2>about the anti Christ being the one who slows technology

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<v Speaker 2>who wants to rein it in. This seems to fit

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<v Speaker 2>this book at this point. He's not saying it this

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<v Speaker 2>way for sure, but it seems to me this whole

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<v Speaker 2>book is written by a man who tend and tends

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<v Speaker 2>to be president. How many people have ever wrote written

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<v Speaker 2>a book before they went run for governor or by

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<v Speaker 2>for president, almost all of them. I think if this

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<v Speaker 2>is if this is his entry into literature as president

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States, we're in big trouble there, big trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I would never vote for this man, he says on

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<v Speaker 4>page one fifty four. The Pope also lays out a

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<v Speaker 4>vision of society where the state protects the vulnerable, guarantees

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<v Speaker 4>a just wage for laborers, who decides that again the

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<v Speaker 4>just wage, and ensures the working people have sufficient rest

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<v Speaker 4>from labor, not for vicious indulgence, but so they can

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<v Speaker 4>focus on higher matters, such as their religious and family obligations.

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<v Speaker 4>People are fundamentally social, so they're mediating institutions, unions, churches

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<v Speaker 4>ought to be prioritized. This is why the Catholic Church

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<v Speaker 4>educates millions of American children every year, and why the

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<v Speaker 4>church's participation in FDR's New Deal coalition was critical to

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<v Speaker 4>building the modern middle class economy of the post war. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, FDR's system didn't build the middle class. It

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<v Speaker 4>destroyed the middle class and kept the war going longer

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<v Speaker 4>with his intervention outlawing gold and then raising the price

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<v Speaker 4>higher and.

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<v Speaker 3>Threatening to throw people in jail that had it. That's right,

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<v Speaker 3>he said.

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<v Speaker 4>Pope Leo explains economic creatures. Pope Leo, People, says Leo,

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<v Speaker 4>are economic creatures who work to earn a living, which

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<v Speaker 4>means that their employers have a duty to pay away

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<v Speaker 4>sufficient for them to live a good life with family

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<v Speaker 4>and children well cared for.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, who decides that.

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<v Speaker 4>Churches will struggle to attract working class people if those

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<v Speaker 4>people are forced to work on Sundays, what do you

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<v Speaker 4>can pass a law? Says this dude is even think

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<v Speaker 4>about what he's writing here.

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<v Speaker 3>And look at this. Listen to this page one nine.

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<v Speaker 3>This seemed right to me and still does.

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<v Speaker 4>Human nature is one of the contradictions of the animal

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<v Speaker 4>merging with the divine and a complicated, messy biological form.

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<v Speaker 4>He clearly believes in Darwinian evolution by the way he

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01:22:47.560 --> 01:22:48.840
<v Speaker 4>talks about that at the beginning of the book, But

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<v Speaker 4>let me read that again.

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<v Speaker 3>This seem right to me, and still does.

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<v Speaker 4>Human nature is one of the contradictions of the animal

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<v Speaker 4>merging with the divine in a complicated, messy biological form.

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<v Speaker 4>The second view of man was a consciousness and civilization,

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<v Speaker 4>where a sort of accident of evolution that we came

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<v Speaker 4>upon higher mental functions because they were useful for survival.

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<v Speaker 4>But the creation story tells us we are both animal

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<v Speaker 4>and divine on purpose a purpose. To be fair, we

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<v Speaker 4>can't fully understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>I can argue either side of this debate. Were these

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<v Speaker 4>parts of us called to beauty accidental to mother nature

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<v Speaker 4>and evolution, or were they part of some cosmic design.

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<v Speaker 4>Both seem plausible. In other words, I guess he's into

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<v Speaker 4>the maybe Darwinian evolution, maybe theistic evolution.

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<v Speaker 3>God used it.

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<v Speaker 4>But in the process he opens the book again by

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<v Speaker 4>being sure to ridicule those who believe in a six

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<v Speaker 4>day creation, and then he goes on to say that

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<v Speaker 4>we're a mixture of the divine with an animal. He said,

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<v Speaker 4>on page thirty two, we talked about the theory of

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<v Speaker 4>evolution and how I've been an advocate of Young Earth

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<v Speaker 4>creationism as a teenager before realizing the superiority of Darwinian theory.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he likes to talk about Chivo. Remember Terry Schivo.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes, that's right, Yeah, he did talk about her.

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<v Speaker 4>He mentions her twice in the book, if I can

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<v Speaker 4>find the second time. He mentions her twice in the book,

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<v Speaker 4>which is really interesting because.

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<v Speaker 3>He apparently believes that.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole Terry Schivo thing was basically a tempest in

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<v Speaker 4>a teapot. And I'm like, no, because that was setting

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<v Speaker 4>down legal precedents, and in a society where unfortunately we

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<v Speaker 4>don't go with the original tint of the Founders, we

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<v Speaker 4>go now with case law theory. That was setting down

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<v Speaker 4>case law at the very beginning of the book, he says,

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<v Speaker 4>page twenty nine. By the time I landed in Iraq

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<v Speaker 4>in August of two thousand and five, people at home

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01:25:06.520 --> 01:25:10.000
<v Speaker 4>had largely forgotten about Terry Shaibo. But I hadn't, and

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<v Speaker 4>I continue to stew on it. It's hard to say precisely.

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<v Speaker 4>What about the news coverage of the story so bothered me.

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<v Speaker 4>It seemed like essentially a family dispute, the courts allowing

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<v Speaker 4>for the youth active euthanasia of a young woman who

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<v Speaker 4>recognized a balloon, and her eyes followed it. And when

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<v Speaker 4>people she loved came in the room, and the courts

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<v Speaker 4>are going to allow her murder is a family dispute.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote.

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<v Speaker 4>I was sympathetic to the moral worldview of the people

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<v Speaker 4>who wanted to save her life. But to my younger self,

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<v Speaker 4>the grand standing and media circus seemingly revealed a religious

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<v Speaker 4>movement divorced from the day to day concerns of the faithful.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt there was something a little off about obsessing

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<v Speaker 4>over extraordinary circumstances when there was so much ordinary misery

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<v Speaker 4>in the world. Vote well again, he's just showing to me,

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<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, what a lack of discernment he has,

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<v Speaker 4>because there's a guy that supposedly went to law school

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<v Speaker 4>and got a law degree. And I'm not sure about this,

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<v Speaker 4>to be honest with you, because if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 4>he would he should know right away.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, this is.

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<v Speaker 4>Laying down case law theory. This is not just an

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<v Speaker 4>extraordinary circumstance. Terry Schivo's case is going to lay down

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<v Speaker 4>legal precedent which can be used again and again.

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<v Speaker 3>And as an attorney, you ought to understand that. JD.

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick, It was definitely precedents were set legally that that

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01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:50.159
<v Speaker 2>was probably the defining case of least that decade my opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he brings it up one more time later in

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01:26:55.119 --> 01:26:58.520
<v Speaker 4>the book, if I could find it, But it seems

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01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:04.199
<v Speaker 4>what he's here it is page two fifteen. One thing

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01:27:04.279 --> 01:27:07.520
<v Speaker 4>it demands is a more fulsome understanding of the role

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01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:13.199
<v Speaker 4>of faith in public life. He says, the Church demands

1477
01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:15.359
<v Speaker 4>more of us, and it certainly demands more of me.

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01:27:16.159 --> 01:27:18.520
<v Speaker 4>One thing it demands is a more fullsome understanding of

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01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:21.479
<v Speaker 4>the role of faith in public life. If you remember

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01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:24.039
<v Speaker 4>the Terry Schaibo case that so frustrated me as a

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01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:26.880
<v Speaker 4>young Christian, Part of what I was reacting to was

1482
01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:30.159
<v Speaker 4>my own limited understanding of Christian social teaching. To me,

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01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:36.079
<v Speaker 4>Christians cared more about abortion bad and marriage good, but

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01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:39.640
<v Speaker 4>their politics seemed to seem so disconnected from the real

1485
01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:43.920
<v Speaker 4>lives of most people. But what brought me back to

1486
01:27:44.039 --> 01:27:47.520
<v Speaker 4>my faith was the Since the Church answered life's big questions,

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01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:50.319
<v Speaker 4>then I must resist the effort to confine Christ's moral

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01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:53.840
<v Speaker 4>teachings to a few social issues. What would a Christian

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01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:57.399
<v Speaker 4>approach not just to marriage and family, but to economics

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01:27:57.479 --> 01:28:03.000
<v Speaker 4>in the modern era? Look like, well, again, he seems

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01:28:03.159 --> 01:28:07.439
<v Speaker 4>so obsessed with the issue of abortion and marriage being

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01:28:08.119 --> 01:28:14.319
<v Speaker 4>at the elimination of concerns about the average person. Well,

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01:28:15.399 --> 01:28:17.119
<v Speaker 4>you know what if you're concerned about the average person,

1494
01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:20.079
<v Speaker 4>then pushed through policies at lower taxes in big government.

1495
01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:24.239
<v Speaker 4>But you certainly don't say, let's make this union stronger,

1496
01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:31.039
<v Speaker 4>let's let's force a livable wage on everyone, let's make

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01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:34.399
<v Speaker 4>the businesses shut down on certain days because we just

1498
01:28:34.439 --> 01:28:39.680
<v Speaker 4>think it's a great holiday. This guy is divorced from reality.

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01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:42.640
<v Speaker 4>In my opinion, I'm not sure he's ever run a

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01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:46.720
<v Speaker 4>real business, right has he? Has he ever run a

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01:28:46.840 --> 01:28:48.199
<v Speaker 4>real business, made a payroll.

1502
01:28:49.079 --> 01:28:53.560
<v Speaker 2>He entered into venture capital when he got out of base.

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01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:55.199
<v Speaker 3>He's never run a real business.

1504
01:28:55.840 --> 01:28:59.279
<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right. Venture capital is this is.

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01:28:59.479 --> 01:29:01.239
<v Speaker 3>This is the white Barack Obama.

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01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:07.199
<v Speaker 4>Okay, jd Vance is Barack Obama the white Barack Obama.

1507
01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Is that a fair assessment?

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01:29:09.760 --> 01:29:14.319
<v Speaker 2>It probably is. You said it, but I think you're right.

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01:29:14.840 --> 01:29:17.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, here's the guy. This is the tag verse

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01:29:18.159 --> 01:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>in two Timothy, by the way to the thing I've

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01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:28.319
<v Speaker 2>read before ever verse seven, ever learned learning and never

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01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:32.279
<v Speaker 2>able to come to the knowledge of the truth. This

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01:29:32.520 --> 01:29:36.560
<v Speaker 2>is this is the epitome we're talking about here, always learning,

1514
01:29:37.039 --> 01:29:44.159
<v Speaker 2>always you know, stimulating spurious thoughts, but never able to

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01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:48.000
<v Speaker 2>come to the knowledge of the truth. He's missed it

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01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:51.279
<v Speaker 2>every single time. He's missed the truth every single time.

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01:29:51.720 --> 01:29:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't care what page you're on. This sounds good

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01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:57.680
<v Speaker 2>on the surface of it, sounds good, but he's missed.

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01:29:57.920 --> 01:30:01.800
<v Speaker 2>He's he's never coming to the to the knowledge of

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01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:04.960
<v Speaker 2>the truth, which of course is wrapped up in christ.

1521
01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:09.159
<v Speaker 2>But you know, there's there's that's just the broader issues

1522
01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:13.159
<v Speaker 2>other than that. But this whole book is based on

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01:30:14.640 --> 01:30:19.399
<v Speaker 2>uh faulty. Well, you know, we we could we could,

1524
01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:24.720
<v Speaker 2>we could say the critical theory is creeping into this

1525
01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:32.000
<v Speaker 2>guy's head where he's leveling criticisms against everything we stand for,

1526
01:30:34.720 --> 01:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>to DeVault to draw people into his world, his ecumenical world,

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01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>his technocratic world, et cetera. You know that I can

1528
01:30:47.760 --> 01:30:51.159
<v Speaker 2>see him running running on this this platform. I don't

1529
01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:55.279
<v Speaker 2>like it at all. But for for discerning Christians who

1530
01:30:55.399 --> 01:30:58.840
<v Speaker 2>will probably vote for him, now is a good time

1531
01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:01.239
<v Speaker 2>to figure out what this guy it's all about, because

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01:31:01.319 --> 01:31:04.520
<v Speaker 2>he may be the president, the next president, do you

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01:31:04.640 --> 01:31:08.439
<v Speaker 2>in fact, yeah, he's one he's one heartbeat away from

1534
01:31:08.720 --> 01:31:10.439
<v Speaker 2>the presidency already, right, And do you.

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01:31:10.560 --> 01:31:15.680
<v Speaker 4>Think that President Trump will finish his term? Because I

1536
01:31:15.800 --> 01:31:23.359
<v Speaker 4>was listening to Casey this morning. I said his name

1537
01:31:23.359 --> 01:31:30.079
<v Speaker 4>earlier today. What's his first name, Casey, now, the famous

1538
01:31:30.119 --> 01:31:33.279
<v Speaker 4>researcher Casey. But anyway, I was listening to him this

1539
01:31:33.439 --> 01:31:39.520
<v Speaker 4>morning and he has put down a ten thousand dollars bet.

1540
01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:42.319
<v Speaker 3>To a friend. I don't believe in gambling and bets,

1541
01:31:42.359 --> 01:31:43.680
<v Speaker 3>but if you want to do it, that's up to you.

1542
01:31:43.800 --> 01:31:45.760
<v Speaker 3>But I don't. I don't, But he's got the money

1543
01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:46.119
<v Speaker 3>to do it.

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01:31:47.239 --> 01:31:50.680
<v Speaker 4>He he has said that to his friend, I'll pay

1545
01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:54.159
<v Speaker 4>you ten thousand dollars if I'm wrong. But I'm telling

1546
01:31:54.199 --> 01:31:58.840
<v Speaker 4>you now President Trump will not finish his second term. Yeah,

1547
01:31:58.960 --> 01:32:02.359
<v Speaker 4>and he's bet ten thousand dollars that that's the case. Yeah,

1548
01:32:03.680 --> 01:32:05.760
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't be, which means best.

1549
01:32:05.680 --> 01:32:07.960
<v Speaker 3>President Doug Casey, thank you?

1550
01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:09.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

1551
01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:10.479
<v Speaker 3>What do you make of that?

1552
01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I know Doug Casey from the old days. By the way,

1553
01:32:15.159 --> 01:32:18.159
<v Speaker 2>he has a he's uh, he has a good head

1554
01:32:18.199 --> 01:32:20.840
<v Speaker 2>on his shoulders. I think I would say the same

1555
01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>thing at this point. The odds of the both the

1556
01:32:24.840 --> 01:32:27.479
<v Speaker 2>House and the Senate being flipped in this next election.

1557
01:32:27.800 --> 01:32:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Of course, we could be wrong. Maybe maybe some maybe

1558
01:32:31.279 --> 01:32:33.760
<v Speaker 2>they'll pull it out, but it seems to me at

1559
01:32:33.800 --> 01:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>this point we're going to lose the Senate and the

1560
01:32:36.079 --> 01:32:39.640
<v Speaker 2>House as well if that happens. Who in the right

1561
01:32:39.760 --> 01:32:42.439
<v Speaker 2>mind doesn't think they're going to go after Trump to

1562
01:32:42.920 --> 01:32:48.039
<v Speaker 2>impeach him. They did it once already with you know,

1563
01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:51.640
<v Speaker 2>with the House. They couldn't get him in the Senate

1564
01:32:51.720 --> 01:32:54.159
<v Speaker 2>because we had the control of the Senate. But the

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01:32:54.239 --> 01:32:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Senate has to have a trial, and you know, if

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01:32:58.319 --> 01:33:00.640
<v Speaker 2>if they convict him, that's the the Trump.

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01:33:02.079 --> 01:33:06.520
<v Speaker 3>So anybody PRESIDENTY JD. Vans in his Hindu wi.

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01:33:08.039 --> 01:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, yeah.

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01:33:10.279 --> 01:33:12.039
<v Speaker 3>So, and he's he's a.

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01:33:12.159 --> 01:33:14.279
<v Speaker 4>New age Catholic. I would I would say he's a

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01:33:14.319 --> 01:33:16.640
<v Speaker 4>mystic new age Catholic. He talks to everybody, loves the

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01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:19.079
<v Speaker 4>he loves the mysticism. There was something, you say, he

1573
01:33:19.119 --> 01:33:22.479
<v Speaker 4>loves the mysticism of something, but I would uh oh, yeah.

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01:33:23.760 --> 01:33:28.000
<v Speaker 4>He says there was also a prayer to archangel Michaels.

1575
01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:29.960
<v Speaker 4>So he's praying. He's talking to dead people and praying

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01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:32.199
<v Speaker 4>to angels. The Bible says you don't pray to angels.

1577
01:33:33.680 --> 01:33:37.199
<v Speaker 4>It's called gnosticism. It's a big definition for gnosticism, seeking

1578
01:33:37.319 --> 01:33:40.000
<v Speaker 4>hidden knowledge whatnot. But one of the aspects of nascissism

1579
01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:42.279
<v Speaker 4>is you pray to angels the apostle. Paul says you no, no, no, no, no,

1580
01:33:42.439 --> 01:33:45.000
<v Speaker 4>going to do this quote. There was also a prayer

1581
01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:48.239
<v Speaker 4>to archangel Michaels to intervene on our behalf and defeed

1582
01:33:48.279 --> 01:33:49.439
<v Speaker 4>evil by the power of God.

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01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:51.600
<v Speaker 3>I really like that one.

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01:33:51.880 --> 01:33:54.920
<v Speaker 4>It felt medieval despite being written in the nineteenth century,

1585
01:33:54.960 --> 01:33:55.960
<v Speaker 4>and it felt mystical.

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01:33:56.520 --> 01:34:01.279
<v Speaker 3>Quote He's a new age Catholic at best, right, mm hmm.

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01:34:01.279 --> 01:34:04.840
<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right. Yeah.

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01:34:06.680 --> 01:34:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Closing comment, Well, this is as.

1589
01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:14.399
<v Speaker 2>Good a time as any to vet this guy. He

1590
01:34:14.520 --> 01:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>may be our next next president. Whether we like it

1591
01:34:18.119 --> 01:34:18.239
<v Speaker 2>or not.

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01:34:19.920 --> 01:34:20.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1593
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:23.960
<v Speaker 2>As far as as far as Christians are concerned. The

1594
01:34:24.079 --> 01:34:27.520
<v Speaker 2>only reason to buy this book is to sharpen your

1595
01:34:27.720 --> 01:34:31.680
<v Speaker 2>apologetic stance to be able to explain it to somebody.

1596
01:34:32.840 --> 01:34:36.479
<v Speaker 2>Because all the churches that we we know, I know

1597
01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:39.439
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of them. I'm not going to give any names,

1598
01:34:39.479 --> 01:34:42.199
<v Speaker 2>but there's lots of churches that I'm in touch with

1599
01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:46.520
<v Speaker 2>in Phoenix, Arizona, even who will not talk about Bible prophecy.

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01:34:47.079 --> 01:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>They'll talk about the Gospel and talk about you know,

1601
01:34:49.479 --> 01:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>teaching the words, etcetera, etcetera. They won't talk about anything

1602
01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:58.159
<v Speaker 2>current event or prophecy wise, they just completely avoid the topic.

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01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:02.720
<v Speaker 2>This book will appeal to them big time. It'll suck

1604
01:35:02.800 --> 01:35:08.399
<v Speaker 2>them in, to at least the pew sitters. It'll suck

1605
01:35:08.560 --> 01:35:13.279
<v Speaker 2>them into yet another deception. How many people? How many

1606
01:35:13.359 --> 01:35:16.720
<v Speaker 2>times have we been kicked around as a church with

1607
01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:21.920
<v Speaker 2>deception in the last twenty years, even the last fifty years.

1608
01:35:22.199 --> 01:35:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Didn't Jimmy Carter come out with a Bible in his hand? Yes,

1609
01:35:27.079 --> 01:35:29.840
<v Speaker 2>yes he did. He was a good old Southern Baptist guy.

1610
01:35:30.119 --> 01:35:35.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, good old boy carried a big Bible. Christians

1611
01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:40.960
<v Speaker 2>ate it up, hooks, line and sinker. How many times

1612
01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:45.399
<v Speaker 2>have we been kicked around by this elite who get

1613
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:49.119
<v Speaker 2>dialed in to what Christians want to hear and then

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01:35:49.279 --> 01:35:53.800
<v Speaker 2>deliver that message to them. Oh, he's a savior, He's

1615
01:35:53.840 --> 01:35:57.439
<v Speaker 2>going to save us all whatever, Just give me a break. Well,

1616
01:35:57.760 --> 01:35:59.640
<v Speaker 2>when will we ever learn.

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01:36:01.640 --> 01:36:06.199
<v Speaker 3>Reality? Is America deserves? Jad Evans JD.

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01:36:06.399 --> 01:36:09.359
<v Speaker 4>Vance is pushing and teaching in this book what so

1619
01:36:09.479 --> 01:36:12.720
<v Speaker 4>many Americans, even so called evangelical Christians.

1620
01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:15.319
<v Speaker 3>Believe America deserves jd Vance.

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01:36:15.640 --> 01:36:19.239
<v Speaker 4>If jd Vance becomes president, it is more of a

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01:36:19.560 --> 01:36:23.520
<v Speaker 4>sign about the country and God's judgment than Jadi Vance.

1623
01:36:23.800 --> 01:36:26.640
<v Speaker 4>If Jadvance becomes president, it is another sign God has

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01:36:26.680 --> 01:36:27.680
<v Speaker 4>given America over.

1625
01:36:28.119 --> 01:36:29.199
<v Speaker 3>It's part of God's judgment.

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01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:32.279
<v Speaker 4>Jd Vance becomes president, it's a sign that God is

1627
01:36:32.359 --> 01:36:39.079
<v Speaker 4>continuing to judge America. Because the ecumenicalism of this dude,

1628
01:36:39.319 --> 01:36:41.640
<v Speaker 4>which what so many people are in favor of, even

1629
01:36:41.680 --> 01:36:44.680
<v Speaker 4>in the so called evangelical world. It's like God saying,

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01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:47.199
<v Speaker 4>you want acumenicalism, here you go. I'll give you this

1631
01:36:47.319 --> 01:36:50.159
<v Speaker 4>former Baptist turned Catholic with his Hindu wife, have edit

1632
01:36:50.319 --> 01:36:52.600
<v Speaker 4>kids have fun well, because you wouldn't say kids, because

1633
01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:54.720
<v Speaker 4>these would be people who are not his children. He

1634
01:36:54.760 --> 01:36:57.079
<v Speaker 4>would have say, have edit. Here you go, country, Here

1635
01:36:57.079 --> 01:37:00.880
<v Speaker 4>you go, America. You want acumenicalism, here you go. And

1636
01:37:00.960 --> 01:37:02.840
<v Speaker 4>the guy also happens to believe in using the power

1637
01:37:02.840 --> 01:37:05.359
<v Speaker 4>of the government to control a major aspects of your

1638
01:37:05.399 --> 01:37:09.399
<v Speaker 4>business and your life and your payroll, and maybe even

1639
01:37:09.479 --> 01:37:11.880
<v Speaker 4>just use the power of the government to confiscate your

1640
01:37:11.920 --> 01:37:13.600
<v Speaker 4>property and your assets if you get on the wrong

1641
01:37:13.640 --> 01:37:14.199
<v Speaker 4>side of him.

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01:37:15.680 --> 01:37:16.000
<v Speaker 5>M hm.

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01:37:17.199 --> 01:37:21.119
<v Speaker 2>This is this is this possibly reminiscent of the statement

1644
01:37:21.199 --> 01:37:24.279
<v Speaker 2>that the World Economic Forum said, you will own nothing

1645
01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:25.760
<v Speaker 2>and be happy.

1646
01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:30.880
<v Speaker 4>I think jd Vance this administration is going to come

1647
01:37:30.920 --> 01:37:33.319
<v Speaker 4>after us, and and you think of jd vance administration

1648
01:37:33.359 --> 01:37:36.039
<v Speaker 4>would let worldview Tube keep broadcasting as we sit here

1649
01:37:36.119 --> 01:37:39.039
<v Speaker 4>and and and and and go against his culture.

1650
01:37:40.079 --> 01:37:42.600
<v Speaker 2>That's right. You're you're a big You're a big target.

1651
01:37:42.640 --> 01:37:43.039
<v Speaker 2>At this point.

1652
01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:44.640
<v Speaker 3>You have we'll all well, you're in it with your

1653
01:37:44.680 --> 01:37:45.119
<v Speaker 3>buddy boy.

1654
01:37:45.279 --> 01:37:50.000
<v Speaker 4>Just so if you haven't noticed, I'm ready at this point,

1655
01:37:50.319 --> 01:37:51.479
<v Speaker 4>at this point in my life.

1656
01:37:51.880 --> 01:37:54.680
<v Speaker 2>They can have it if they want it. But I'll

1657
01:37:54.720 --> 01:37:59.640
<v Speaker 2>tell you what, until God takes me home or rapture

1658
01:37:59.680 --> 01:38:03.439
<v Speaker 2>the share, I'm in it to win it, so to speak.

1659
01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to win anything, but get my point.

1660
01:38:07.199 --> 01:38:09.399
<v Speaker 2>We were going to say what we have to say,

1661
01:38:10.079 --> 01:38:12.760
<v Speaker 2>and if people that don't like it, that's their problem,

1662
01:38:12.840 --> 01:38:13.520
<v Speaker 2>not my problem.

1663
01:38:14.079 --> 01:38:17.760
<v Speaker 3>At this point, if the race was between JD.

1664
01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:20.960
<v Speaker 4>Vance and Kamala Harris, would there really be much of

1665
01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:22.039
<v Speaker 4>a difference between the two.

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01:38:23.319 --> 01:38:28.159
<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't that there might be some advantages to Kamla

1667
01:38:28.359 --> 01:38:32.960
<v Speaker 2>because she's she can't she can't get out of her

1668
01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:37.800
<v Speaker 2>word solid mode to say anything meaningful that might be

1669
01:38:37.960 --> 01:38:43.199
<v Speaker 2>better for the country than somebody like Van obviously a plotter.

1670
01:38:43.239 --> 01:38:45.600
<v Speaker 4>And and and you Kamala would maybe wake up a

1671
01:38:45.640 --> 01:38:50.680
<v Speaker 4>sleeping giant and have opposites, whereas a JD vance Heck,

1672
01:38:51.319 --> 01:38:53.840
<v Speaker 4>the quote Christians will go along with this clap trap

1673
01:38:53.920 --> 01:38:55.760
<v Speaker 4>and corporate fascism.

1674
01:38:56.159 --> 01:38:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, yeah, crazy put quote on.

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01:38:59.720 --> 01:39:02.560
<v Speaker 4>Christian was one final quote, page one sixty one. He

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<v Speaker 4>says Jendievans quote. I was also drawn to the hierarchy

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<v Speaker 4>and sense of authority in Catholicism. The Christian tradition was

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01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:20.640
<v Speaker 4>so rich, the Bible so big and difficult to master,

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<v Speaker 4>that I began to see the structure of Catholicism as

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<v Speaker 4>a benefit, not a burden.

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<v Speaker 2>End quote.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's a guy admitting that he couldn't understand the Bible.

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01:39:32.439 --> 01:39:35.880
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't understand the Bible, so I decided, I'll just

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<v Speaker 4>surrender to the hierarchy of the doctrines of the Catholic Church.

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01:39:42.279 --> 01:39:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Because I can't understand the Bible. Can I tell you

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<v Speaker 4>why you can't understand the Bible?

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<v Speaker 3>JD.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I'm not your judge, I can't see your heart.

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<v Speaker 4>But all the fruit, all your doctrinal fruit, all your

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01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:55.560
<v Speaker 4>doctrinal fruit shows you're not a believer, and the reason

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<v Speaker 4>you don't understand the Bible is because you don't have

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<v Speaker 4>the Holy Spirit inside of you to help you have

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<v Speaker 4>the spiritual eyes to see and understand. And I would

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<v Speaker 4>pray that you would receive Christ. I know I've been

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<v Speaker 4>pretty harsh on you tonight, but it's partly because you're

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<v Speaker 4>a false teacher. You're a false teacher, and you're a

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<v Speaker 4>blasphemer according to the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I don't, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I don't tread lightly on describing what I

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<v Speaker 4>think about blasphemers, idolators, deceivers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's exactly what he is.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you would you disagree with? Is that an inaccurate statement?

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<v Speaker 2>That you're exactly right? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 4>But I wanted to I wanted to become the Salvation,

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01:40:40.079 --> 01:40:41.720
<v Speaker 4>and I wanted you to be able to understand the Bible.

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<v Speaker 4>But I find it very telling that he finds it

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<v Speaker 4>difficult to master and understand the Bible. Well, that's because again,

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01:40:48.039 --> 01:40:49.840
<v Speaker 4>you're not a believer. It's kind of a dead letter

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01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:53.159
<v Speaker 4>to you. But there is enough to understand from the

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<v Speaker 4>moral law on your heart and on your mind and

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01:40:55.479 --> 01:40:59.079
<v Speaker 4>through general revelation that you need a savior, and it's

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01:40:59.119 --> 01:41:01.520
<v Speaker 4>not found in the cow Church, and it's not bound

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01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:05.399
<v Speaker 4>in your Southern Baptist Church or your Methodist church. Is

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<v Speaker 4>found in only the Lord and his death, barren resurrection.

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01:41:08.399 --> 01:41:13.720
<v Speaker 4>And it's not a process. It's instant justification, then sanctification,

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01:41:14.079 --> 01:41:17.079
<v Speaker 4>and then we look forward to glorification. I pray for Jdvans,

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01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:18.960
<v Speaker 4>I pray it comes to know the Lord. But I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to continue in my righteous indignation exposing this false

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01:41:21.880 --> 01:41:25.560
<v Speaker 4>teacher and this deceiver, for I believe theologically that's exactly

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<v Speaker 4>what he is. And when you add him to someone

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<v Speaker 4>like Peter Thiel, a so called Christian open homosexual.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right, mm hmm, that's right, we got a real problem.

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<v Speaker 4>This is redefining all the terms, all the doctrine, all

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<v Speaker 4>the theology of the Bible, and the character and nature

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<v Speaker 4>of God. And I'm not going to sit still for it.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, the Bible says that we are called expose

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<v Speaker 4>the unfruitful works of darkness. Beware those men who've risen

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<v Speaker 4>from within the draw away the disciples after themselves. This

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01:41:55.760 --> 01:41:59.439
<v Speaker 4>guy is trying to rise within the within quote the church.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, He closes the book, by the way, with

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01:42:03.199 --> 01:42:07.720
<v Speaker 4>that very statement, and then with this we'll quit. He

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<v Speaker 4>closes the book by stating that Pope Francis and Charlie Kirk,

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<v Speaker 4>they were all a part of the same church. I

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<v Speaker 4>want to quote it directly, so I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 4>the time to find it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he says in there by the Way that Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>Kirk was one of his best friends.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder what Charlie would have to say if you

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<v Speaker 3>were alive about this book.

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<v Speaker 2>I would hope that he would say something, but I

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01:42:49.800 --> 01:42:52.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know. He's not here to defend himself.

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<v Speaker 4>On page two eighty five, Vance writes, quote, as Christians,

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01:42:57.800 --> 01:43:04.439
<v Speaker 4>we are all together part of the same church. Those

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01:43:04.520 --> 01:43:08.079
<v Speaker 4>who suffered in those who prospered, those who voted for me,

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01:43:08.319 --> 01:43:11.279
<v Speaker 4>and those who didn't, the living and the dead. My

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01:43:11.439 --> 01:43:15.399
<v Speaker 4>grandmother and my father, though they disliked each other, Charlie

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01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:21.760
<v Speaker 4>Kirk and Pope Francis despite their different views, Saint Augustine

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01:43:22.159 --> 01:43:25.920
<v Speaker 4>and Father Henry, me and my son.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me get this straight.

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<v Speaker 4>Charlie Kirk, Pope Francis, they're all a part of the

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<v Speaker 4>same church. Well, the church is Ecclesea. It's called out once.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry. There is no universal ecumenical church. There's just

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<v Speaker 4>the church.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the this is his concluding statement in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the whole book.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is his one, two, three, four, five, six.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the seventh, seventh to the last paragraph of

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<v Speaker 4>the book.

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<v Speaker 3>Seventh to the last paragraph.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the call for acuum medicine minicism. Yep, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the This is the call that that puts the

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<v Speaker 2>that puts the context in the book that this whole

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01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:22.319
<v Speaker 2>thing is as a call to return to the Catholic Church.

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01:44:26.760 --> 01:44:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Isn't this isn't this what all these people are saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in the Naar movement, if we all get together,

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01:44:32.359 --> 01:44:36.119
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna, you know, we're gonna somehow include the Catholics

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01:44:36.119 --> 01:44:39.640
<v Speaker 2>as well as the Episcopalians and everybody else in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this, this is the call of the ages

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<v Speaker 2>at this point. We've seen it so many, so many

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01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:50.359
<v Speaker 2>ways and so many instances so over the last ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a big, big movement at this point. And

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01:44:53.319 --> 01:44:55.960
<v Speaker 2>he obviously he's he's a part of that movement. Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, I don't know of anyone else this has done

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01:45:00.439 --> 01:45:02.920
<v Speaker 4>a full review of this book like we just did, Patrick,

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01:45:03.199 --> 01:45:06.560
<v Speaker 4>and I think this is a real service to those

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01:45:06.640 --> 01:45:09.079
<v Speaker 4>who want to be discerning and not deceived.

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01:45:10.239 --> 01:45:11.119
<v Speaker 3>I hope so right.

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01:45:12.800 --> 01:45:15.880
<v Speaker 2>We're setting a standard here, I think for apologetics. Yep,

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01:45:16.079 --> 01:45:18.239
<v Speaker 2>this is this is a good thing. The church needs

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01:45:19.319 --> 01:45:20.479
<v Speaker 2>to hear this. Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And I pray for JJA.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to say again, I pray for j D

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01:45:24.119 --> 01:45:27.239
<v Speaker 4>and his family were ordered by the Bible to pray

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01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:28.239
<v Speaker 4>for elected officials.

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01:45:28.479 --> 01:45:29.600
<v Speaker 3>I pray for his salvation.

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<v Speaker 4>But I will continue to speak bluntly, boldly, and maybe

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01:45:34.039 --> 01:45:37.720
<v Speaker 4>even in terms people don't like, because I again have

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<v Speaker 4>zero patients for people being deceived.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree with you, Patrickwood.

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<v Speaker 4>Technocracy News, Technocracy News, and I think we're gonna have

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01:45:52.079 --> 01:45:55.640
<v Speaker 4>a big announcement coming up. We're hoping Patrick that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>this November, after the elections, this November, at this news desk,

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<v Speaker 4>Lord willing, you and I and Courtenay Turner and Carl

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01:46:06.079 --> 01:46:10.039
<v Speaker 4>ty crib we'll all gathered together to a huge conference

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<v Speaker 4>on transhumanism and technocracy and globalism.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, indeed, that would be amazing thing to see. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know you, maybe our listeners don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>connected Carl and I have been over the years. But

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<v Speaker 2>he was basically the first, the first guy that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of took me by the hand to understand technocracy in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place. We're going back twenty years at this point. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>So where we have a lot of stuff in common.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you what, between the two of us,

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<v Speaker 2>we can have a conversation like no other.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're going to sponsor it, Lord Willing right here

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<v Speaker 4>around this desk after the elections. All right, Patrick, Technocracy News,

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<v Speaker 4>Technocracy dot News.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Patrick, you bet God blessed.

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<v Speaker 3>Roll the music.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's call it a night, hope Again, you appreciate the

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<v Speaker 4>hours we do here in work and research to get

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<v Speaker 4>it right, reading the book, marking it up, giving you

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<v Speaker 4>page numbers so that we can understand what's going on

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<v Speaker 4>in our world, understand the times, think biblically about it,

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<v Speaker 4>as Patrick said tonight, a lot of self described Christians

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<v Speaker 4>would be very deceived by this book. They would read

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<v Speaker 4>this book and think, oh, that's so wonderful. Oh be

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<v Speaker 4>like Brian's. They even studied to see what Paul said

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<v Speaker 4>was true. Does it line up with the Bible. That's

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