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Stephanie, 11 00:00:32,079 --> 00:00:36,280 congratulations on forty five years with the William Holden Wildlife Foundation. 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,159 I have always followed this because you teach so many 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,799 people that you can do this in your own community. 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,399 Speaker 2: That's we try to. 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: Yes, we really do. That's very kind. I'm very happy 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,960 that you followed us. You know, we were established after 17 00:00:54,039 --> 00:00:58,560 Bill's death as a living memorial to him for his 18 00:00:58,759 --> 00:01:03,359 work as a conservationists, but as a visionary, because his 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,120 work as a conservationist in East Africa began in nineteen 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,799 fifty nine, long before people had the word conservation in 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:19,359 their vocabularies or the notion of extinction in their minds, 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:25,439 and as we approach the Earth Day, it's never more 23 00:01:25,599 --> 00:01:29,280 appropriate than to speak of the work that he did 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,040 and the work that is carried on by the William 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,319 Holden Wildlife Foundation. 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,719 Speaker 1: And that's the reason why I'm so inspired by the 27 00:01:36,719 --> 00:01:39,439 William Holden Wildlife Foundation, is the fact that as you 28 00:01:39,519 --> 00:01:41,840 travel the world and you open up your eyes and 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,560 other people's eyes into the journey of accepting all things nature. 30 00:01:46,599 --> 00:01:48,319 We're in need of that as well in this country 31 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:51,359 as we go through these weather changes. Is that we're 32 00:01:51,439 --> 00:01:53,760 drying up and we've got to sit here and figure 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,239 out how we're going to take care of each other, 34 00:01:55,319 --> 00:01:58,280 including the animals. And I think that is because you've 35 00:01:58,319 --> 00:02:01,280 lived at first through the William Holden. Now it's like, Okay, 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,959 what can we learn from you that we can incorporate today. 37 00:02:05,879 --> 00:02:09,759 Speaker 3: Well, I've been learning it from others all my life. 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,759 And you know it's we've been speaking about extinction and 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,400 about the fragile nation of the nature of the planet 40 00:02:18,879 --> 00:02:22,800 for a long long time, and yet so little is done. 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,080 You know, our governments. We can't depend on our governments 42 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,400 to do it. We have to depend on individuals and 43 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,919 the inspiration of those individuals is what I'm all about, 44 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,599 and hope that some of the work that we do 45 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,199 that people might see on our website inspires them and 46 00:02:43,479 --> 00:02:47,080 inspires them to participate with us. We are our five 47 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,680 oh one C three public charity. Anything no donation is 48 00:02:51,759 --> 00:02:58,360 too small and it's tax deductible. So our mission statement 49 00:02:58,479 --> 00:03:05,039 is wildlife conservation through education and alternatives to habitat destruction. 50 00:03:06,039 --> 00:03:10,840 Bill was the inspiration of this. It's a living memorial 51 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:18,120 to him that I formed after he passed, and hopefully 52 00:03:18,159 --> 00:03:22,919 we are inspiring people, not just locally in Kenya, but 53 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,759 around the world. We serve about fourteen thousand students a 54 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,400 year at our education center, and we have an outreach 55 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:40,120 program into rather impoverished rural areas that really helps them 56 00:03:40,439 --> 00:03:46,280 understand and make the transition from their tribal ways into 57 00:03:46,439 --> 00:03:50,400 a world that is crushing in on them and that 58 00:03:50,439 --> 00:03:53,199 they have to they're looking for answers to be able 59 00:03:53,280 --> 00:04:00,280 to adapt to and it's all disappearing very quickly. I 60 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,080 think about the first time I went out to Kenya, 61 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:09,400 which was in nineteen seventy three. The difference is astonishing. 62 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:15,000 The rate of extinction of species is mind boggling, and 63 00:04:15,039 --> 00:04:18,040 that's going on all over the world. 64 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: So we are the source of the problem. So we 65 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,600 are the source of the solution. 66 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: And we must inspire ourselves, our children, and our society 67 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:32,399 to be able to do. 68 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,079 Speaker 2: Something about it. 69 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 3: And the little, the smallest thing we can do is 70 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:39,240 to look at ourselves in the mirror and see what 71 00:04:39,439 --> 00:04:43,319 is it we consume, because whatever it is we're consuming, 72 00:04:43,639 --> 00:04:45,319 we're killing ourselves. 73 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: With One of the things that I've always been inspired 74 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,720 by you, Stephanie, is the fact that I just feel 75 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,279 that when you walk into some place like Kenya, or 76 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,560 you walk around in other areas of the country, that 77 00:04:55,079 --> 00:04:58,040 you don't mind just sitting down in the soil and saying, 78 00:04:58,079 --> 00:05:01,360 all right, I'm listening, let's figure this out. Because every 79 00:05:01,439 --> 00:05:04,279 animal has a story, every tree has a story. And 80 00:05:04,319 --> 00:05:06,839 you know what, if you listen close, so do those rocks. 81 00:05:06,879 --> 00:05:08,600 And that's what I love about you is that you 82 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:10,680 are not afraid to step into the story. 83 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 3: Well my nails are short is and dug into the ground, yes. 84 00:05:21,879 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god. And what you have done to protect 85 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:26,519 the horses. See, that's where I first came in contact 86 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,279 with you, is what you're doing up there, like in 87 00:05:28,319 --> 00:05:30,600 the prior mountain areas and other areas of this nation 88 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,160 and around the world, because that those prior horses we 89 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,920 are to this day huge to those of us in Montana. 90 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,399 Speaker 3: I know, and I know it's it's highly sensitive and 91 00:05:42,519 --> 00:05:49,759 highly controversial, but we we we have underestimated the importance 92 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,600 of those horses and their role in biodiversity and the 93 00:05:54,639 --> 00:06:01,879 biodiversity that created our planet. We are the end results, 94 00:06:02,079 --> 00:06:05,160 but we are also the problem because we're the one 95 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:12,720 destroying it. So there is never enough, there's never enough 96 00:06:15,199 --> 00:06:20,199 emphasis placed on them. Now we yesterday in Los Angeles, 97 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,319 I'm in Los Angeles. Yesterday in Los Angeles it was one. 98 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:29,639 Speaker 2: Hundred degrees yep. Yeah, that's insane for this time of 99 00:06:29,639 --> 00:06:30,000 the year. 100 00:06:30,959 --> 00:06:33,519 Speaker 1: See, That's what I'm saying, is that that as you 101 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,000 go to Kenya and what you're learning in Kenya, we're 102 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,720 gonna have to learn here because when you've got a 103 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,279 one hundred degree day in Los Angeles this early in 104 00:06:40,319 --> 00:06:41,879 the game, what is it doing for you the rest 105 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:43,360 of the nation. Oh, I know what's happening here in 106 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,879 the Carolinas. We're being beaten up by these torrential rainstorms. Well, 107 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,759 we're gonna have to learn how to do what they 108 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,360 did before us in order to survive. And that's why 109 00:06:51,399 --> 00:06:53,920 I need people like you, Stephanie. 110 00:06:54,519 --> 00:06:55,399 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. 111 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,519 Speaker 3: I need people like you too to get the message out. 112 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: We all need each each other, but we need each other. 113 00:07:02,759 --> 00:07:07,959 Speaker 3: To work together to help resolve this because obviously our 114 00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:10,519 governments are not going to do it. They haven't done 115 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,639 it so far, and there is certainly enough, there's enough 116 00:07:14,839 --> 00:07:21,399 information out there, and there's enough enough examples of why 117 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,360 we need this. 118 00:07:22,879 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: Why it should be number one. 119 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: On our list of crucial issues to deal with. 120 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: Please do not move. We'll be right back with Stephanie Powers. 121 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:40,319 The William Holden Wildlife Foundation is celebrating forty five years. 122 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,240 Let's get back to our conversation with Stephanie Powers. Do 123 00:07:44,279 --> 00:07:45,920 you think that one of the things that we need 124 00:07:45,959 --> 00:07:48,240 to work on is that being human we think that 125 00:07:48,279 --> 00:07:50,560 we can take care of everything. And what I mean 126 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,360 by that is a lot of people will adopt an 127 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:55,399 animal and bring it into their life. And I'm going 128 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,639 I think we need more people than just that little 129 00:07:57,639 --> 00:08:00,839 gut feeling that I can save this I can save 130 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,279 this horse. We need to get more people involved in 131 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:05,319 this to make sure we're doing it right correct. 132 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,519 Speaker 3: Well, yes, but also let's not diminish the importance of 133 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:14,800 the individual. Yes, because it is individuals that make things happen. 134 00:08:15,519 --> 00:08:20,199 It is individuals that, when they join together, become movements. 135 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,399 Speaker 2: And so there is no act that is. 136 00:08:24,279 --> 00:08:28,399 Speaker 3: Too small in the preservation of this planet. 137 00:08:29,519 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 2: It's just it's just inspiring people. 138 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: To make that act, to do something, to find some 139 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:42,240 way of contributing, not just money, but actually doing it. 140 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,879 Speaker 1: Like you said, wearing your nails short which you look 141 00:08:45,919 --> 00:08:48,720 at my nails. You say, dude, you got soil in 142 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:50,639 those nails because you've been out there in that darn 143 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:51,879 forest all weekend. 144 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: It's yes, that's great, that's the best kind of dirty nail. 145 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, don't you love the way that collection of 146 00:09:00,759 --> 00:09:03,519 trees and loving the land will bring the animals to 147 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,360 you so that you can learn their journey as well 148 00:09:06,399 --> 00:09:08,759 as where they're growing as well. Even a box turtle, 149 00:09:08,799 --> 00:09:11,360 to me, has a story that we can learn from. 150 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: Oh. Absolutely, I'm preaching to the congregation, you know. The 151 00:09:19,759 --> 00:09:22,120 all we have to do is look at what happened 152 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:27,919 to our environments all over the world when COVID forced. 153 00:09:27,639 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: Us to get off the street. 154 00:09:30,279 --> 00:09:35,639 Speaker 3: I mean, it's incredible how wildlife adapted. It's incredible how 155 00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:40,960 the air cleared up. It's incredible how we once again 156 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:44,320 heard birds. For those people who took the pods out 157 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:50,039 of their ears or the music off their headsets and 158 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,879 listen to the real music, the music of nature. Because 159 00:09:53,919 --> 00:09:59,960 it came back so fast, absolutely extraordinary. That's how brilliant 160 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,360 this planet is. But give it half a chance. Instead, 161 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,679 we just go back and the same way that we 162 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:14,399 were behaving before, as like destruction Derby. You know, we're 163 00:10:14,799 --> 00:10:17,080 the great offender one of. 164 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: The things that you've been a major part of, because 165 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,480 we all just naturally think that if we see the 166 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:25,320 photographs or we see the documentaries on TV, the jaguar 167 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,080 is the perfectly protected animal. No no, no, no. The 168 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,240 conservation that you've created and the trust that you've created, 169 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,759 it opens up our hearts to say, look, we need 170 00:10:33,759 --> 00:10:36,320 to work together and continue to save the jaguar. 171 00:10:37,919 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: Well, yes, but unfortunately Jaguar as a company, Jaguar North 172 00:10:42,039 --> 00:10:47,120 America was the whole company. I mean, when I created 173 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:52,200 the Jaguar Conservation Trust, it was predicated on the fact 174 00:10:52,279 --> 00:10:53,279 that the. 175 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: Company itself valued the. 176 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,279 Speaker 3: Relationship that it had with its logo with the animal 177 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,639 used as its logo and showed the integrity of the 178 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:12,000 automobile makers to produce a beautiful car to also preserve 179 00:11:12,759 --> 00:11:16,320 the animal from which they derived its name. 180 00:11:17,279 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: That company was. 181 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:23,919 Speaker 3: Sold from Ford Motor Company, who were very conservation minded, 182 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:30,320 to a company in India, and they're not so conservation minded, 183 00:11:31,159 --> 00:11:34,600 so they discontinued their support of our little effort. 184 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: We were for five years. 185 00:11:38,039 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 3: We sponsored an effort in a grassroots effort in Guatemalae 186 00:11:45,159 --> 00:11:50,360 in Costa Rica and Belize, and it was very well 187 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:56,600 received locally and it did some wonderful good. Now it's 188 00:11:56,759 --> 00:12:00,159 run by a company that isn't even in America, so 189 00:12:00,519 --> 00:12:04,759 they and they didn't want to they didn't even want 190 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,519 to let us use their name. So it was it 191 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,559 was a really sad eventuality. 192 00:12:12,759 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: So I come to not trust the corporate world very well. 193 00:12:18,279 --> 00:12:20,559 Some of them talk from both sides of their. 194 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,799 Speaker 1: Mouths, you saw, like my dad, I love that kind 195 00:12:24,799 --> 00:12:27,000 of talk. But you know, but you know what, one 196 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,759 of the things that that I cherish about you is 197 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:30,840 the fact that you'll go out there and you'll be 198 00:12:31,159 --> 00:12:33,360 with everything that has to do with the planet. You'll 199 00:12:33,399 --> 00:12:37,159 experience life in places that we won't ever get there 200 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,480 and then I swear to you, when I listen to 201 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,720 your music, I can feel your emotion in those lyrics. 202 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,679 Is that something that you created with Loren's heart in 203 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,200 the way of going, Look, there are words to me 204 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,080 until I put my heart involved in the in these songs, 205 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,879 because I feel something when I hear you sing. 206 00:12:56,879 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: Oh, that's very kind. 207 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,039 Speaker 3: Loren's heart would the greater hero of line as far 208 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,039 as his poetry was. He certainly was a poet, and 209 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,279 he lived a tragic life, but his poetry lives on 210 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,879 and is in the lyrics of his music. 211 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,639 Speaker 1: And you're putting it through that music, which allows so 212 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,320 many people to explore it because you know, people are 213 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,600 just as lost with music today as they are with 214 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:25,879 the planet. And you're bringing these together because once we start, 215 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,720 you know, doing the research on you and seeing your connection, 216 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:31,399 it's like, oh my god, all of that dirt you've 217 00:13:31,399 --> 00:13:33,639 got in your fingernails is paying off for those of 218 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,279 us that didn't know until now. 219 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. 220 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: I'll tell the dirt when I'm washing it out of 221 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:43,720 my nails. 222 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,919 Speaker 2: Some of it comes out, some of it doesn't. 223 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,759 Speaker 1: But is that part of the training of for h 224 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:50,240 and the reason why I bring that up is because 225 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,000 I grew up in the state of Montana, on those 226 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:54,919 farms in Wyoming as well as Montana, and four H 227 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,080 was a major part of what we do. I would 228 00:13:57,159 --> 00:13:59,840 say my forest is alive today in South Charlotte, North 229 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,320 Carolina because of what I learned at four H. 230 00:14:04,759 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 2: Oh. Well, for H was a great organization. 231 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,919 Speaker 3: You know, I had a I had a calf a 232 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,679 heifer called deb Yes, that was the that was the 233 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,399 animal I showed and uh, and I think it taught 234 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,759 some wonderful values and certainly taught the appreciation of our 235 00:14:25,759 --> 00:14:26,679 fellow species. 236 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: Uh. It was. It was altruism at its best. 237 00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Where can people go to find out more about you? 238 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,840 And the forty fifth annual William Holden Wildlife Foundation Celebration, 239 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,799 because this is a moment that we all need to 240 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,159 be talking about and getting involved with. 241 00:14:45,679 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. It's uh. 242 00:14:47,639 --> 00:14:54,039 Speaker 3: We have a very very involved website. It's w h 243 00:14:54,639 --> 00:14:59,360 w F dot org. That's the acronym of the of 244 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:05,600 the foundation. And please to your listeners, please go and 245 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,720 look us up and see if there's anything that interests you. 246 00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: There's a lot on there. 247 00:15:10,919 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: It's rather it's rather massively filled with a lot of information. 248 00:15:21,039 --> 00:15:24,080 But if you can get through the information, get to 249 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,960 the core of the matter, hopefully you'll find something that 250 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:29,919 moves you. 251 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: Please come back to the show anytime in the future. 252 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,279 The door is always going to be open for you. Stephanie. 253 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,879 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, my dear. I'll walk right through it. 254 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,639 Speaker 1: Excellent, you'd be brilliant today. 255 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:41,919 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, you too.