Speaker 1: Welcome to the KTPF Reload Show. In case you're wondering
what the Reload Show is about if you haven't heard
previous shows, these are the interviews that were conducted by
a good friends of mine, Steven Sue Taggett in the
days of the KTPF radio show, their own radio show
around for just over four years, broadcasting every week for
over the three hours. I joined them in the last
eighteen months of the show's run, but eventually the guys
felt they yes about had enough. It was a monumental
effort to keep broadcasting every week for three hours. It
was a wonderful show, but unfortunately they no longer involved
and the shows have just sort of sat in the archives.
So I thought it would be nice to bring them
back to life and bringing you the interviews that the
guy has conducted over those four years and include some
of the most interesting people within the world of the
paranormal and some lots of well no, but it's nevertheless
still very interesting. We even now one or two rather
unusual shows, including a live salance and other things along
those lines. Anyway, hopefully you enjoy tonight's show, and this
is the KTPF Reload Show. Enjoy. You're in the right place.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Goodeen with everybody, and welcome to another edition of the
KTPF Community Talk Show. My name is Susanne I and
tonight we are talking about the Bermuda Triangle. This is
a region of the west part of the North Atlantic
Ocean in which ships, planes and people are alleged to
have mysteriously vanished. It's been quite popular for the for
quite a few years now, and basically back in the
days of Columbus, it started to be reported that even
Columbus himself reported strange lights and strange compass readings when
he was in the area back in fourteen ninety two.
In sixteen oh nine, the Sea Venture got wrecked during
the first attempt to colonize Bermuda. But between nineteen forty
five and two thousand and eight, one hundred and twenty
nine planes have disappeared. That's just two a year, working
on a percentage, despite hundreds of planes, ships, and pleasure
craft that go through the triangle. So why does it
affect some and not others? Well, tonight we are going
to talk to a young lady carry Trantham. We're going
to talk about her experience of the Bermuda Triangle that
she did when she flew through the Bermuda Triangle in
nineteen ninety five. It's very interesting story, isn't it, Dave.
It is indeed so, yes, So we'll be talking about that.
But we'll also be asking her about the latest report.
We had it in the Daily Mail back in February
that as far as the National Ocehanik and Atmospheric Administration
are concerned, the it's official the Bermuda Triangle is a myth.
Speaker 5: Yes, the US Navy doesn't recognize it, and insurance companies
don't charge you any more for going through it.
Speaker 4: No, so they don't recognize it either. And they're basically
saying that it's down to the weather conditions that happened
during the time. And they're saying basically it's it's just
down to the weather conditions, the foul weather, the poor
navigation involved. So are they saying it's down to the
people that's done this that and mother nature?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 5: I have a few things that could cause disappearances here, Okay, okay.
The first lot is mainly for shipping it's a very
deep area of deep trench there, and it's in deep
trench in whirlpools can cause can cause the ships to
be sorked into woopole and sunk methane gas. Yes, and
they've proven it in the in tanks with the small
models and things, that a bubble of me thayne gas
can actually sink a ship pirates.
Speaker 4: Of course, the rogue waves.
Speaker 5: They are actually recognized now. Even these space stations have
noticed waves up to ninety five feet high. These are
not tsunamis. These are waves.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: There's water spouts, tornadoes, cyclones, and hurricanes, of course, and
if you want to go from a supernatural version, how
about this one there meant uh Edgar Coy's Giant Crystal
of Atlantis, Okay, he's reasoning of the Bermuda Triangle told
about a huge laser crystal that was a powerful weapon
that was also used as guiding energy source for Atlantean aircraft.
Said the crystal was submerged underneath the water of the
Bermuda Triangle. He stated that on clear days when the
water was calm and the sunlight hit the crystal and
activated it. The crystals being disrupted electrial electronic equipment and
was responsible for the disappearances in the triangle.
Speaker 4: I see so it is a mysterious place. Even Barry
Man and I sung about it. Excuse me, but how
about this one? Okay? UFOs and us os us yes,
and applying submarine submarine objects? Is it submerged objects?
Speaker 6: You got it?
Speaker 3: I see this.
Speaker 5: This bicture says about Christopher Clumbus in the strange lights
on the horizon, and he referred to the Muda triangle
he later saw around glowing objects submerged into the ocean.
In the addition, Clumbus reported how on two occasions, compass
reading was northwest at night, and by daybreak it corrected
itself to align with an all star. There are similar
stories about UFOs and usos and identify submerged objects within
the Bermuda triangle. Some theorialized that UFOs are using vortexes
and wormholes to enter and exit our world, and somehow
ships and planes also go through these passages.
Speaker 4: Hi, carry Hi? Can you hear me? Okay?
Speaker 3: I can you hear you? Can you hear me? Fine?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fine. I can't. You can't see me at
the moment because I'm saving bad bandwith just in case
it goes wrong. Okay, but I'm seeing you and hearing
you perfectly good. Right, So Carrie trying them? Is that
his production name?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes, uh. Now you are a survivor basically of the
Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 3: Well that's kind of what they think, and.
Speaker 4: So what do you think.
Speaker 3: Well, I definitely survived, right, Okay, I'm very thankful for that.
It was a very very scary experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Well, would you like to take us through it?
Tell us up you know what what happened, and never think.
Speaker 3: Well, it was. It was a flight up to Daytona
Beach to see my daughter, and it's a fight that
I had flown several times, and I was living in
the Florida Keys at that time, and it started out fine.
And and what's interesting is that one of the pilots
that I was flying out of the Key was Naval
Air Station I was belonged to out there, and one
of the big jet fight fighter planets told me once
that there's a dead airspace between the Florida Keys and
the mainland. And I had always every time I flew,
always thought about that conversation that we had. And he says, well,
don't worry about it, you know, just keep flying or
climb a little higher and yeo, man radio contacts, So
let's me be worried about. And I always thought that
was kind of strange, you know, dead airspace. What the
heck is that? So but anyway, I was flying up
to see my daughter, and I landed at Norman Beach.
We went shopping, and I did everything I needed to
do by filing a flight plan and everything else to
go back to the Keys. And I was flying. I
had to changed my flight plan because there was some storming,
the weather moving in a front coming into Florida. So
I had to change my flight plans from where the
way I flew, because I flew directly across the Gulf
to Naples and then across UH, Florida to the coastline,
and then up to arm I was doing my thing
and and and I noticed it was getting I was
ahead of the storm. It wasn't even worried about that,
and it was way behind me. And I was flying
along and UH and then all of a sudden, it
was just like something somebody threw a blanket over my airplane.
It was like totally in the dark, you know, my instruments.
You know, I went crazy, I lost my horizon. I
just I just felt like I lost control. And then
all my flight training went in kicked in and it
was either getting control of this airplane or I end
up in the Gulf and and and never survived. And
it was, like I said, it was a really really scary,
scary experience. I only actually told two people about it afterwards,
and the one being the commander that was in charge
of the flying club. And and he was upset because
I left the airplane with almost no gas, which is like, what,
you know, what happened to me up there? You know
that I used up more gas and I anticipated, and
so I kind of explained to him that I had
a situation, and of course he gave me a lecture
and and then I a couple of days later, I
just I felt like I needed to get back into
an airplane otherwise I would never fly again. I mean,
it was that that detrimental and that scary to me.
And and when I was out there, a pilot that
I had that was I was close to, I told
him about, you know, what it happened, And because I
wasn't really sure what happened you know, but it was
just one of those things situations where you felt like,
you know, you didn't want to really tell anybody because
it was like did I do something wrong or or
what happened to me? Or would anybody ever even believe me?
Type of situation. And then years later I was having
issues because I kept thinking about it, and my husband
told me, he says, you know, maybe you need to
write it down. So sometimes getting it out on paper
gets it out of your system. So that's what I did.
And then next thing I knew, it was suggested that
I submitted for a publication, and I did, and it
was and it was published. So that's about it.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure book, isn't it? Which is cold? What's
it called?
Speaker 3: The magazine that it was published in?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've written a book here?
Speaker 3: Oh yes I have. It's actually a novelist, the Bermuda
Triangle Pathway to Atlantis. And I as after my article
was published, I was on several documentaries and I heard
all these theories about what causes the Bermuda Triangle. So
I got to thinking about it, and it's like, you know,
and I and I'm a big fan of the Science Channel,
and and uh, and the contum you know, the theory
of quantum physics. You know, once it was discovered, it
just like blows your mind. It's like makes almost everything possible.
And the fact that that, uh, that scientists have now
proven I guess in the and they and the science
labs that there's ten dimensions, which totally changes a lot
of the way we live, I mean, or the way
I think anyway. And so my book is basically on
the fact that what happens in the Bermuda Triangle, the disappearances,
you know, is that they're going over into a parallel universe.
And I know people say, oh my god, but yeah,
I think it's totally possible. You know. Now, I've been
told that that, uh, maybe there's a magnetic fog there,
and that that's what happened to me, That I flew
into the magnetic father, the magnetic fog flew into me. Whatever,
And and that's another part, you know, possibility. I think
of what's going on there, because in researching my book
The Permuter Triangle Pathway to Atlantis, I looked up the
magnetic force that covers our planet and it's just freaking awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yeah, I believe also within to try
and you're you're right, you're true, your true nose becomes
a magnetic magnet direct.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry you've.
Speaker 4: Got the show on as well, because I can you
your speakers, Yes, I can't.
Speaker 3: I apologize. I was having a little bit. Is that better?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we're getting the feedback you see, I'm hearing
myself again. Okay, where you are.
Speaker 3: There, I'll have a little bit of an listening to you.
Speaker 4: So I believe at the end of the day, when
you're in the Bermuda triangle, there's a difference between true
north and magnetic north. My correct.
Speaker 3: Yes, well that's flying. There's always a difference between the
magnetic north and and you're always having to adjust your compass.
That's a to the But and then there's you know,
and there's been discussions about the north and south UH polls.
It's you know, switching. So I get some research on
that too. But there's a I get a lot of email.
And I got an email this morning from a a
young man in Pakistan and he UH is studying civil
engineering and he says, and he says, I'm studied nature
and any of course, he thinks that the Ramir Tangle
is because of the magnetic forces. That is another planet
that's taking them. Originally said, which is kind of interesting.
Speaker 4: You know, it's all right. She keeps dropping out by
carry if you can hear me, can you turn your
camera off? She's died on me. Gone, she's gone.
Speaker 6: We will get her back. Don worry, don't.
Speaker 4: Forget if you have problems, I mean that friend. Hi, Yeah,
if you leave your camera off, it will be okay.
With the bandwidth, I'm sorry, Skype can be a bit
finicky if you have your camera on sometimes it uses
too much bandwidth and therefore out. So if you leave
to come off, it should be fine. Okay, Okay, So
you were saying you was telling me about this young
lads said.
Speaker 3: Well, it was a I just feel like I can't
turn my video off. I guess I'm off though, Yeah.
Speaker 4: You are wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just consider myself a believer. That means I
believe in everything until somebody absolutely proves that it doesn't exist.
It exists because and we you know, as far as
i'm I mean, nobody has actually proven that there's no
such thing as a ghost. No, and there's no such
thing as time traveling. I mean, nobody's proven that we
can't travel through time, and that I've been reading a
lot about time travel and time. I mean, you know,
even Einstein says that the way we consider time is
is based on our movement through the universe. I mean,
there's really no such thing as time, and some times
time passed and president future can kind of blend together,
especially when you get into other dimensions.
Speaker 4: I just soart curiousity. How long did it take you
to make a trip to your daughters and how long
did it take you to get back?
Speaker 3: It's about a three and a half hour trip to
get there, depending on the wind. Coming back, it took
me probably two hours longer, I'm thinking, because it got
dark on me, you know, and I had to land
in the flight of my last leg in the in
the dark. But I really lost time. I just I mean,
I was just so shocked, you know, in shock, and
and I just lost it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you say anything apart from this blackness?
Speaker 3: No, I did not. I get that asked a lot.
You know. It's like, you know, like I said, I
get a lot of email. Well, yeah, and a lot
of them are are young students from the sixth grade up,
and it's interesting what they're what they say, you know,
about my experience and and their questions that they ask,
you know, but uh no, I didn't see anything, and
that course, to me, that was what was scary.
Speaker 6: And we got Chris and Emmer in, Okay, hey can
you hear me? Can you hear Chris?
Speaker 3: Did he ask? I couldn't hear his question?
Speaker 6: Hello that Hi, Kerry, can you hear me? Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 6: I'm not too bad, thank you. I'm not too bad
at all. My name is Chris. And it must have
been a very very very scary experience. Obviously, you're flying,
you know, over places and it's completely black and you
can't see anything. Lots of weather, you know, maybe you
know navigational systems and malfunctioning and things like that when
you're you know, playing altitudes in an aircraft. So I
can I can understand that, you know, the anxieties and
the fear you know that you must have been, you know,
you're incorporated, and I can certainly understand carrying these with
you from that day maybe to this day. I mean,
obviously if you still suffer from these things. But would you,
I mean, would you have consider flying? Would you fly
back over that in that same area again.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's the common question, and yes I have.
I did. Actually the first time I went back over
there was with the Discovery Channel and and their pilot.
You know, we went over the same area and I
did by myself again, but I no longer at night,
you know, not by myself if I had a chance,
but if I had a choice, rather not a chance,
but if I had a choice. But it is, it
was a scary experience. And I was thinking about that
today when I was thinking about this interview, is that
it's something that even when I think about it now,
you know, my my heart beat and my stomach turns
over and and and it Actually it did a lot
of changes for me. It changed my It made me
more open to possibilities I think in my life, and
it made me more It affected me emotionally in the
fact that I felt more thankful for life. You know,
I think anybody that has a life death experience where
they feel like they're not gonna, you know, survive it,
I have that feeling that, yes, it's good to wake
up in the morning.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So do you feel more like because obviously because
of the encounter, obviously the experience is sort of giving
you that bit more guidance, that enlightenment, you know, so
obviously likes you just said, you know you see things
in a different way now or you know, so, do
you think it's sort of it's added to your enlightenment
and sort of helped develop you further further onto you know,
the and you know that you've become today.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think that. Yeah. I don't know if I
was actually enlightened, but I would. It's made me. It's
made me more aware of how precious life is and
how awesome our planet is, and about all the mysteries.
I mean, I just look out here over my patio
I live in Boquetti Padam on my views is awesome,
and and I hear the animals and the experiences I
have with the hummingbirds. You know, they come looking for
me if they get hungry. I mean, life is just
fascinating and what we experience is just fascinating. And in fact,
I had this. I have to say, I have a
friend that said that he has a friend that says
that Earth is actually the vacation spot for aliens. I
thought that was fun.
Speaker 6: That's a very good concept. It's very it's a very concept.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we're gorgeous and beautiful and and in fact,
I saw this video and I put it on my
Facebook page because it was so awesome. And it's basically
based on the fact of the overview effect, and the
overview effect is being It's like the the astronauts that
left the planet, you know, when they were heading to
the Moon. Their main goal was the Moon, and that's
what they were looking at, and then all of a
sudden they turn around and look at the air, at
the planet Earth behind them, and it just affected several
of them, you know, spiritually, because here's this planet that's
that's absolutely blue and gorgeous and hanging in the sky.
And I can see where aliens would think of it
as a vacation place.
Speaker 6: It's certainly a shame where we have to go through
things or experience things to appreciate the planet and things
that we got around us that we take the ground
to on everyday basis, don't we you know we you know,
we get up in the morning, we're breathing, you know,
we're breathing air. We can communicate, we're alive. We feeld
a warmth from the sun on our faces and on
our bodies and like you say, the animals, the birds
and everything just you know, living around and the general
consensus of life itself. And we often walk around blind,
with our eyes closed and oblivious to the fact, and
that we just don't appreciate it enough. And maybe sometimes
people do having incorporate experiences, like people have near death
scenarios and experiences on that level, and when they sort
of come back and they have a new found sense
of being with life around in general. But you know,
very much, as you've just been saying yourself there, when
you know with the birds, you know, humming and then
everything like that, it's just a shame that we have
to go through these things. And maybe sometimes we're designed
to go through certain experiences, depending on what their experiences are,
but maybe we're designed to go through them to open
our eyes to such maybe.
Speaker 3: I think so, you know, I think a lot of
people have the problem that they live in a box
and and and they're afraid to STI ab out this box.
But I think, you know, I've told many people of
this that I think that I've after my experience I have,
I'm open, I'm open for for and I think when
you open yourself up then things do happen to you,
you know, but wonderful things, wonderful experience is you know,
I definitely believe in paranormal, but I also believe that
that there's a that everything that we consider or discussed
as paranormal is a mystery, and a mystery at some
point there's a reason for the mystery, and there there
will be a science. I don't like to use the
words scientific, but there is an explanation, you know. I
think that like time travel, I think at some point
we're going to find out that there really is a
simple reason where I could just think myself and all
of a sudden, I'm.
Speaker 6: In New York City.
Speaker 3: You know. I think that there's a there's a there
is a way to do it. We just don't know
what it is to transport ourselves and and the explanation
will be something really simple. It's like the scientists are
going to just hit their heads and say, oh my god,
we should have known that. You know, we can manage
our particles and change our or whatever and transport just
like that. I know, you, Like I said, I'm a believer,
and I think that everything that we've you know, what's
interesting is that we actually live in a Star Trek world.
Speaker 6: Now I love Star Trek. I love Star Trek, but
we do we do. I mean, and I know you
had a horror and experience, a terrifying experience, and obviously
one that's going to stay with you, you know, for maybe
possible with the rest of your life. It's something that
you're not going to forget in a hurry, you know,
And you know it's fantastic that obviously you manage to
get back safely, and that you are where you are
today and you got back, you know, and all that's
behind you, put in the bad side of that behind you,
and knowing what you know now and how we seem
to more appreciate things. Would you say that you would
you would you say that you're glad today that you
actually had that experience or is it something you think
you wish still you still never had that experience, knowing
that you've you know, you've come through that safely and
hopefully it will never happen again. But would you say,
you know, you'd love that you actually had that opportunity
to experience what what you actually did?
Speaker 3: Well, yes, you know, I you know, sometimes you wonder
it's like, why do things happen to you that happens
to you. Is there a destiny or or was that?
You know? I had an interesting phone call from a
couple who are actually there. And the king's eighty one
and she's seventy six, and they wrote a book and
they wrote it anonymously because during the Korean War they were, uh,
they were underwater photographers and did documentaries, but that was
that was their surveillance or or whatever you call it.
They were actually spies. And and he's a little bit
on the psychic side. I guess he had a life
death experience and and he woke up being a little
bit psychic. And so they were asking me, it's like
and they found my book and they were saying, carry
when when you were writing this, do you find that
that is it just your imagination or is this coming
from someplace else? Because he felt that that when he
had his life death experience, that the that the tunnel
never really closed for him. So when his writing, uh,
he feels like it's coming from someplace else other than
his own, you know, imagination. And I thought that was
really really because I thought about that, and I never
when I was I've had a life death experience, and
so I don't. When I was twenty four and I
had a car wreck and my heart stopped three times,
and I just wondered, and I got me thinking, It's like,
I wonder if maybe this opened me up to you know,
like the Bermuda Triangle experience or whatever. But what is
this happening? And sometimes I wonder, you know, where my
thoughts do come from? You know, is it just my
imagination or is there and another funneling into my mind?
You know, the other morning or the other night, I
woke up in the middle of the night and a name.
It was it was a very strange name. It was Robert,
and it was like the very strange last name. And
I kept spelling that name and I don't know anybody
by that name, and it's like, where in the world
did that come from? So their conversation was really really interesting,
and we talked for a little over an hour. And
they're in the States and I was down here. So
I plan on on catching up with him when I'm
in the States.
Speaker 7: But what do you think, do you think that there's
a possibility that you know, some of these some of
our thoughts are not really coming for our own minds,
but someplace else.
Speaker 4: We've got some questions for you from the chat room. Harry.
First of all, j W wants to know how did
your friends and family react when you told them?
Speaker 3: Actually, I didn't tell them now, Okay. In fact, my
husband complained because I was married to him for three
years before I ever told him about the experience, and
he's and I was having problems with nightmares and uh,
and that's when it was suggested that maybe I write
it down. You know, sometimes when you got things, you
know that are on your mind constantly, it's easy to
you know, just put them down on paper, kind of
get some out of your system. So but yeah, he
was a little of us, said that I hadn't told
him until after three years of marriage.
Speaker 4: Okay. And Andy wants to know what was she supposed
to be? Where you were? Were you when you were flying?
And you was to two hours more than what you
should have been flying, so to speak, because you took
a different route, didn't you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did take a different route, but because I
didn't fly, I was I must find the coastline, so
that would have taken me a little bit longer to
fly that way, right, That's where I went because the
way I left, I live from Key West, straight north
to Naples and across, so I was flying across the Gulf.
Speaker 4: So backstay Like Andy's question is, were you supposed to
be there or did you end up miles from nowhere
when it blacked Now, I.
Speaker 3: Was supposed to be there. I was doing my flight plan.
But when when my car when everything went black on me?
The thing is is that you lose your oh cr
what's the word for it. Anyway, I wasn't sure if
I was upside down the right side up, And then
I wasn't sure if I had floated, you know, east
or west or where. I just lost where I was
and of course back though maybe if i'd had a
GPS that might have been different, but at that time
we didn't have GPS's, or at least not for little airplanes.
Speaker 4: You know, what makes you think that you didn't blank blackout?
Speaker 3: Well, that's a good question. I I did a talk
not too long ago, and I was asked that maybe
I had a blackout, and I honestly don't know. I
couldn't tell you if I had blacked out or not.
Speaker 4: No time wasn't on allSome, so wasn't the plane crashed.
If you blacked out, well.
Speaker 3: It's amazing how how amazing small airplanes are. They're built
to glide. And I it depends on how long I
was blacked out, actually, but I don't think I was.
I think I was just in a state of shock
because I was so I was so intent. But I
think thinking back is like I was thrown into a
survival mode and whether the adrenaline was flowing, and you know,
you always hear strange things about that happening to people,
where people lifting up cars off of other people, you know,
to save a life or whatever. It's amazing what our
bodies and our minds can do when then adrenaline is flowing.
And like I said, I was just I don't you know,
I kind of liked my my existence. And I think
I was just trying to survive. I wasn't I didn't
want to die.
Speaker 4: No, you don't have to ask. Have you ever tried
hypnosis to retrieve the memory of that time? And if not,
would you consider it? I have a time panic and
what you own?
Speaker 3: I have done hypnosis. I was very much into hypnosis,
and I think hypnosis is an amazing way to get
into a meditative state and to explore your self conscious mind.
I never really addressed my experience, and you know, I
never really wanted to. I don't know why, whether I
was just afraid or what. But I've had some other
interesting experiences under hypnosis, finding my inner guide in this
sort of thing, and which is another situation. It's like,
where in the world did that come from? Is that
in my imagination or or is there another dimension going
on with all of us? But that's like I said,
I'm very active with hypnosis. I have been in the past,
and I never wanted and I never asked anybody to
take me back.
Speaker 4: No, that's why it's something you wouldn't have to go
back to anyway.
Speaker 3: Really, now, I really you know, it's there's a yeah, no.
Speaker 4: So but we survived obviously, yes I did, which is good. Yes,
otherwise you've just proved to us that goes to exist.
But you know, as I say, do you have do
you feel even though you got back on the bike
so to speak, do you sometimes feel when you're when
you're flying a little bit edgy at all? Now?
Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely, I don't. I don't fly night at all. Yeah,
do you have? And I don't like to fly by myself.
I'd rather have like Coplaint in there with me.
Speaker 4: Do you cross the Bermuda try and go to pardon?
Have you ever crossed the Bermuda Triangle?
Speaker 3: Since yes, I it's kind of hard not to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you live in Florida, there's a case that
obviously it doesn't doesn't happen to everyone. What makes you
think that?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. And you know, I've, like I said,
I talked to a lot of or I correspond with
a lot of especially students, you know, and a few
adults about the Bermuda Triangle. And for one thing, and
there's another gentleman one case, gion Ksar'm sorry gion Ksar,
who has written some books on the Bermuda Triangle, and
he's on my Facebook. So he's talking about getting back
into another book about and I asked him, I said,
do you think it's changed? Or I emailed him or
facebooked him rather, and I said, do you think it's
changed over the past fifty years? You know he has
there and he said he didn't give me a really
good answer, but he said that yes, it is changing.
And but one thing is like, uh, the triangle doesn't
have specific borders. You know, I know that it it moves,
just like anything else is going to move on this planet,
and it fluctuates, and I definitely think that there's something there,
you know. I'm asked that a lot. Do you really
believe this or is it a huax? Or what?
Speaker 4: I said?
Speaker 3: No, because too many, too many big things have happened
and there's absolutely no no clue as to where it is.
And it's kind of like, you know that not I
keep wanting them to find Flight three seventy yeah, you know,
not only for the family, but just for closure. It's
just like and not having these closures causes a mystery
and and it's very scary. It's it's not really scary scary,
but it's it's very strange that that things are happening
and why and and you know, you asked me, and
it's like, why doesn't everybody have this experience? It's amazing.
On the different shows I was on, it's amazing how
many people have things happen to them in that area
and don't talk about it or don't say it, you know,
Like this one pilot that was flying me in the
Discovery Channel, he was saying that he was flying between
Puerto Rico and Miami all the time, and one time
they had their plane on automatic pilot and it kept
getting off swerving off of automatic pilot. I mean, there
was absolutely no explanation for it. Yeah, so there's there's
lots of things that are happening there. It's just that
I happened to tell my story. But I think that
a lot of people have stories and there's something going
on there, whether it's the magnetic forces or or or
who knows, uh, you know, the government is doing some
stuff there too. Somebody was saying that there's under under
a water sonar and this sort of thing, and maybe
they're just trying to hush up. Yeah. I think that
there is something going on. And I and I know,
I I you know, I think it's that the organization
is an amazing one. But I was up in Florida
not too long ago and there were twenty nine whales
trying to beach themselves in Fort Lauderdale, which is in
the Bermuda Triangle. Now, why would why would twenty nine
whales try to beach themselves? And I think that maybe
are there's something going on with their sonar. Maybe all
of our you know who knows maybe are all of
this our GPS is and all this stuff is affecting
the sonars of these whales and dolphins, which is a
scary thing to say. So, but and there the jet
dream is going through there, and the get stream that
has moved actually some with the with the earth and
everything else, all the stuff that goes on with our
weather and everything else. But what do I say, I
can't agree. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 4: You're right. And the other thing I wanted to ask
is about your book. Why did you call it Pathway
to Atlantis?
Speaker 3: Pathway to Atlantis? I think has we can't find Atlantis,
you know, we people are searching for Atlantis, and they
think that it did exist at some point, a civilization
that was maybe even more advanced than we are right now.
And so I called it because the Bermuda Triangle is
an unstable portal to a parallel world, which is where
the city of Atlantis went to. That's my whole concept.
I kind of liked.
Speaker 4: It because there is an explanation. I must admit that
Atlantis is in the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And actually in my book, the basis of it
is that the people of Atlantis knew that something was
going to happen, you know, a big meteorite was going
to hit planet and flooded or whatever, and so they
created a parallel universe.
Speaker 3: They were that far advanced. And I have to my
favorite scientist, Can I mention his name? Yes, Mitchell Cuckoo.
In fact, he wrote a book about parallel universes and
they're definitely a possibility, Absolutely a possibility. And so why
not if they're that far advanced then we were. Maybe
they knew how to create a parallel universe and that's
where they went. And uh, and that's what happened, is
that the Permi Triangle people that didn't survive ended up
in parallel universe of Atlantis. It's kind of a fun thought.
They didn't die, they just.
Speaker 4: Went where are you going? Hello?
Speaker 3: Hello?
Speaker 4: So I seemed to disappear a bit there. I don't
know what I say? Is that enough questions you've got
in the chat room? There is one I want you
to ask from j W. Have you ever been on
the show on Soteries?
Speaker 3: Uh? No, I've been on a couple of Discovery channels
about the Remuter Triangle. I've been on the Sci Fi
and the Learning Channel and National Geographic those are the
ones I think that You've got to YouTube and watched
my little where they talked to me about it. But no,
not on Unsolved Mysteries. They haven't asked me.
Speaker 4: No, right, okay, somebody I think somebody thought you might
have been on there.
Speaker 3: So no, so I've been on I've been on Sevel,
but not on that one. Right.
Speaker 4: Okay, So one one last question. There was nothing that
actually not knocked too off course during this trip? Was there?
You was on course all the way? Would you say?
Speaker 3: Yes, nothing knocked me off. Well, after my little incident,
I didn't know where I was, you know, so I
was I was knocked off course there. I had to
get I had to contact Miami and finally and asked
them to give me my where I was till, you know,
because they had my they had my plane on radar,
so they knew where I was. I just didn't know
where I was and I really wanted to go home, right, Okay.
Speaker 4: You got mic.
Speaker 6: Sorry, Just as a pilot, can I just ask it?
Is there such things when you're flying your aircraft in
the sky? Is there such things like air pockets and
things like that drag that could knock a plane slightly
off course, you know, you know, if no one's if
no one's watching it. Let's say, like driving a car
down the road, and sometimes you can hit a pothole
or something like that, or a hole in the road,
and if you take your hand off the wheel, so
obviously the car or the vehicle can be you know,
beer over. So if you if you're flying an aircraft
and someone's let's say, not watching it, or whatever the
case may be, could you could the an aircraft hit
an air pocket or warm warm pocket of air or
something like and can slightly, you know, change the course
of the aircraft.
Speaker 3: Very easily, you can get off course. It doesn't take
a lot, you know. And if you don't have automatic pilot.
I was flying an airplane that didn't have anything but
a magnetic compass and you know, yeah, so it's very
easy to get off of course.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah, no, that's I appreciate that. Thanks very much.
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you. And on the subject of auto pilots,
did your plane have an autopilot?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Right? Do all planes not have an auto pliant?
Speaker 3: A lot of small planes don't have out a.
Speaker 4: Pilot, right, Okay, I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 3: Like I said, it had a magnetic compass and a clock.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so obviously the magnetic field that was in
the area that caused things to go a bit haywire,
just to clarify everything, and it was obviously during the
Bermuda Triangle, and it gave you an experience that you'll
never forget.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, thank you for coming on the show. Carry
thank you for the questions in the in the chat room,
and for that we really really please We've got you
on after all this time. Thank you for taking your
time to come on. Okay, and I'll leave you to
enjoy the rest of your day.
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you so much, and I've really really enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Carrie.
Speaker 3: Oh, I had to say real quick, I worked with
the gentleman from Manchester when about fifteen, let's say, about
twenty years ago, I was working in Germany and all
he was a hoot. Yeah, he was quite a character.
So I'm quite fond of Manchester.
Speaker 4: All right, Okay, well, thanks very much. I don't actually
come from Manchester, but.
Speaker 6: Oh I'm from Manchester.
Speaker 1: And I'm a hoop.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you. I actually come from
down South so okay, but I live up here anyway. Well,
thanks to getting Carrie. Please enjoy your flights, nothing happens
to you again and every success with your book.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: He's carry goodbye, cheers, bye bye bye, bye bye bye.
Speaker 6: There you go.
Speaker 5: That was carry. Treat them and her story. She remembers
it from flying through the part of part of the.
Speaker 4: But anyway, we're going to call it a day, So
until next time, all we can say is, you know
everyone
Speaker 2: This is where it's at.