Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to an episode of Challenge the
podcast all about the Challenge as usual.
Speaker 2: I am Brian sitting over rewatching his TV in his
own monitor.
Speaker 3: Is Big.
Speaker 2: Sitting in her bedroom ready for the after show, the
after dark after show.
Speaker 4: In bed, no less, Carl in San Diego.
Speaker 2: And sitting in work. I don't know. You got a
bunch of satietas earlier. That's the only clever thing I
got for you.
Speaker 5: The future star of Generation five Zachie Bananas.
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You can also trot our Patreon and uh, I don't know,
get some shit. Uh I don't know who took notes
for this episode?
Speaker 3: Man, I did, Yes, I did. But we all have
to compensate for Wolfe tonight. Wolfy doesn't like the episode,
so we all have to like it extra Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sure, generally speaking of people sit around talking great Wolfy.
Speaker 3: I gotta say, though we.
Speaker 2: Only had an entire episode of that last week already.
Speaker 3: Your your reaction is the only one that I've seen
out of all of Channel's fandom that is like not
super stoked about this episode in the season. How do
you how do you justify your position.
Speaker 2: What was the point of having episode zero where people
sit and talk about how long they've been on the show,
and then the first episode is people sitting around talking
about how long they've been on the show. Oh my god.
Usually this is the bullshit we complain about, and all
three of you are like, oh my god, best episode ever.
Speaker 3: Love it? Okay, loved it.
Speaker 4: I will give it. I will give it to you.
Most of the time, this is the stuff that we
complain about. But this is the first season in a
really long time that has had a ton of players
that we all love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we haven't seen it a very long time.
Speaker 4: That that is the thing that changes it, Because yeah,
I thought that exactly, Like if this were any other season,
we would have been complaining out the wazoo. But this
is the first time we've seen some of these players
in ten plus years. I mean, it's just it's really
exciting to see everybody.
Speaker 2: So it literally took me ten minutes to watch this
episode because I watched part of the challenge and I'm like,
this is boring as fuck. Fast forward and through it
and I was like, I'll just get to the part
where they go in and they talk to the person
about why they should stay. And I fast forwarded through
an hour and fifteen minutes of this goddamn show before
that even hit. But it'll be okay because I'm gonna
watch the elimination and it'll be great. There's no fucking
elimination in this episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but spoiler alert, next episode there should be eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And so if you fast forwarded through an hour and
fifteen minutes of challenges, apparently they weren't just saying they're talking.
Speaker 6: They were doing challenges for most Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of the most boring challenges I've ever seen. Put
this puzzle of forty together and then row your boat
out to a booie and that's it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we had fun things in it. I mean,
I guess we should probably go through the let ten
goa my.
Speaker 2: Life I just did in this episode.
Speaker 5: Do you know how much better my life has been
today now that I have CT pro tips to write?
Speaker 2: That may be the only redeeming factor of this series.
I wonder if I hope it continues the entire season.
And this wasn't a one off episode joke.
Speaker 4: Me too, the ctres.
Speaker 3: So I have a theory, though, we'll fee because you
are I don't want to say a late come to
the challenge, but you weren't as into the challenge early
on as like say me and Zach and Carlin.
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm still not. I only watched it because my
ex wife watched it. Yeah, and I'm like, hey, my
friend Tim, who really likes it, wants to do a
podcast about it. Maybe me and you should do it.
And now my ex wife is gone and I'm still
watching this goddamn show for no one.
Speaker 3: It's a great show. It's a great show us.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: And this this episode was everything that I've loved about
the show, like being a fan that has been into
it for twenty five years, like flashbacks to all of
the highlights of twenty five years, all the memories that
came flooding back, all these little cut scenes of players
we've forgotten along the way. It was just it was
everything that I needed after a battle of the New
Champion or whatever the fuck last.
Speaker 4: I completely agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, we'll figure out numbered.
Speaker 2: I don't care. I've learned that Riverside you can like
program it to recreate the sound of your voice. So
I'm just gonna tell you a bit a bunch of shit,
and I'm gonna leave and it's gonna be the standard.
Speaker 3: Oh good, So make it positive, make it like, make
it like you really enjoyed the episode. We don't need
a we don't need a virtual bummer Wolfeye. We need
a we need an uplifting Wolfe. All right, Well, this
episode opens It's called The Era Invitational Part one, by
the way, guys, and it opens with flashbacks that we
just talked about, and TJ mentions that over twenty five
years they have had over four hundred players play this
game and ninety four unique champions. I would not have
guessed these high numbers. What about you, guys, Well.
Speaker 4: I have I have a little bit of it of
a bone to pick with the unique winners because of
those ninety four, there are multiple multiple time winners, so
they are not actually unique.
Speaker 3: That's okay, So that's that is not unique winners. That's
I don't that counts multiple winners.
Speaker 4: Unless they're counting each individual person on the Giant teams
that won.
Speaker 3: Back in the day.
Speaker 4: Maybe it hits ninety four, but I feel like I
feel like ninety four seems really high for the number
of challenges we've had and the number of times people
like Johnny and CT and Kara and Wes, and.
Speaker 3: It surely counts the big teams. Yeah, it surely counts
the big teams. I don't think there's any question.
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that's rue. Yeah, if you counted
every single person on the big teams, then maybe they
do actually hit ninety four.
Speaker 5: But yeah, because I would say, was it like the
first ten seasons or so? I feel like most of
those were the big teams. So if you had like, yeah, true,
if you had six to eight winners every season, you know,
you could get like four or five new people per
season for the first time.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so then you've got fifty right there. That makes sense,
all right, So the maybe ninety four actually does make sense.
I just I heard that and had in my head
the last like fifteen twenty seasons where it's been you know,
one or two winners, not fifteen.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, I agree that because it hasn't been something crazy
like ten seasons since like CT Bananas or Jordan didn't
win a challenge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, something like that. Like of the of the men
who have won, they have won.
Speaker 6: The last yeah, like eight to ten or so. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh, well, they all jump out of a big trailer
I don't know why they do this. Sometimes the Challenge
does these things, and it's like, I didn't need this.
I don't need the trailer.
Speaker 4: Anything purely for our benefit. But they did jump out
to some good music.
Speaker 3: I didn't paid attention to that. What was the song?
Speaker 4: It was a Lincoln Park song. I can't remember what
it was right now, but I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: Uh, super unexpected to me. I don't know how you
guys feel about the CT crying. What is this?
Speaker 4: Yeah, getting all teary eyed.
Speaker 3: I did not expect this. I did not expect this. Yeah,
what's up with CC? Why is he getting all emotional?
Speaker 5: I don't know he maybe he thinks that's the final
season like we all did.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's his final season.
Speaker 3: Maybe Yeah, Well, he says, it's a home to me.
The Challenge has always been there for me. He talks
about some rough times. I wonder if he's going through
the divorce and needs to think about DM.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like, you know, I mean, like, is
that if he's putting all of us in there? Yeah,
Like Stove says in the chat room, he spent his
twenties and thirties on the show. You see why he
got emotional. I mean, yeah, because he did. He spent
his twenty and thirties. Johnny spent his twenty in thirty,
twenties and thirties. Kara has spent her twenties and thirties.
It's been a lot like there are quite a few
people who have spent their really formative adult years living
on this show.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, uh, the Second Era women, I just want
to concentrate on them for a second, because Kara talks
about the Second Era women. They are the most badass
crew dac. Yeah, the worst of the of the women
on Generation two is Kelly Ann, and Car gives her
some props too, says she's a battye, which I learned
from my daughter. Baddie is a good thing. Yeah, I
don't know who else is who else is up to
with that terminology? Uh yeah, not me? And maybe I
talked about this last episode. But do you guys notice
Jordan looks like rugged this season more than usual. He
looks bulkier, and he looks like fucking weathered and rough.
Speaker 4: Yeah. He over the last few years he has kind of,
I don't want to say, he's filled out like the
guys you know, twenty seasons ago when everybody was on
Royd's But like he has, he has definitely like he's
he's bold, he has he's bulked up, he's filled out
quite a bit. He was never lean and live like
runner style physique. He's he's much bigger.
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, he never fit the mold of like the
roid guy he was. He would be people. He never
looked anything. But yeah, no, I didn't know, but now
he's looking he's looking bigger. I don't know if it's
something he's focusing on or it was just age.
Speaker 5: But speaking of looking bigger, was I the only one
of that also thought CT looked more dad bod than
ever before?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, big boy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's looking real dadbod right now. But like if
you he posted a video on Instagram the other day
where he's still got a little bit of the dad
bud looked to his face, but you can tell that
he's leaned out quite a bit. So I'm wondering if
during the show he leaned out or if that happened afterwards.
But even even dad Bod CT, he still kicked some
serious ass when he came back from Invasion of the Champions.
Speaker 5: One and I had to hear from Mama Zachie bananas
this morning, which she saw dad bought CT take the
shirt off, so she was a fan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will always love him.
Speaker 3: Well. Amanda is the first of several contestants saying they're
playing this season for their kids. I love it. One
million dollar prize pit ooh right, what the hell cheap
skates million dollars?
Speaker 6: All right? I did think for season forty they want
to be like a bigger.
Speaker 4: Mispooing the kids.
Speaker 3: They should have had a bigger amount. Zachy agree with you? Yeah,
a million rice. They broke a million for Dirty thirty yeaeah.
That was like a big thing ten seasons ago, so
it's like, yeah, they could have done. It's pumping up
a little bit, guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and it also makes me wonder if it's
only a million dollar, I mean, only it's only a
million dollars, are they actually doing this in teams? Because
if it's a million dollars and they're doing this in teams,
then what I mean if you have four people, everybody's
only getting two fifty, and that's if second and third
place don't get anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and I also hope that they do make
it era against era, not internal era fighting.
Speaker 4: Because I know I'm really I'm era. Thing is only
this this first like purge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll get into the politics of that. But yeah,
that's it's going to be a super boring episode if
it's all internal like that.
Speaker 4: You know, it's gonna be a super bowing season if
it's all internal, because it's gonna be They're gonna if
it's If it is all internal, it's gonna fall into
the same pitfalls that we had with Invasion of the Champions,
where we thought it was going to be there coming
in to invade the game and play against these rookies,
and it ended up just them being playing against themselves,
which is not fun to watch. It's not why all
of us tuned in. So yeah, hopefully that's not what
this is.
Speaker 3: Yep. Uh, Well, there's this, uh the challenge that we're here,
but bom the challenge. Uh, there's eightal eminations this episode. Uh,
and so that means the bottom man and the bottom
woman of each after they compete with this, they are
going immediately into an elimination. They are battling against a
man or woman of their same era. So we are
going to have sixteen people out of the forty into
an elimination. After this, eight of them are going to
go home right away. Uh, well, he already went over
the a little bit. You're doing a puzzle, you're battling
a boat, you're getting lights, you're putting them in the thing.
First man, first woman. When I don't know, Carl and
they've seen it, I don't know how much in death
do I need to get getting death enough.
Speaker 1: Maybe I thought it was a big interesting challenge.
Speaker 2: That's what you guys were all telling me.
Speaker 3: I was, Hey, they've watched it though, you know, they
don't need to go over the rules.
Speaker 4: They everybody has watched it, though, I mean hopefully everybody has.
This is so far. It's a good season. Yeah. I
loved that CT called the boats miso soup bowls.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, I was gonna say. And I do know that.
Speaker 5: I've heard on other podcast people being like, oh, you know,
I don't actually watch the television show. I just tune
in to listen to the podcast to tell me everything.
Speaker 3: So I still feel like that if they've ever seen
the show, they know what I just described. It's it's
a puzzle, it's a rowing, and then it's a thing
they got to get the thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the puzzle was fucking hysterical though, because Tony
could not figure it out.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was just that top one. It
was just rotated. I can say it from here.
Speaker 4: For anyone who didn't see it already or for some
reason hasn't watched it. They're building the number forty, and
this is when we get the first CT pro tips
from CT, where you have to look at all of
the different pieces and see if there's anything special on them.
And he notices that there are characters written on the pieces,
so you can match the characters up and match the
shapes up, and it's easier to put your whole thing together. Well,
Tony very obviously does not see this and tries to
put together this big three D number forty, and he
has the top of the four flipped around he at
one point in time, he finally gets that flip back around,
and he can't get everything to stand up properly because
it doesn't look like it locks into place the that
it should. And it's forty. It's so forty, it can't
be any more forty.
Speaker 3: He's struggle busting on this one.
Speaker 4: So dumb, he's so dumb.
Speaker 3: And I think I've discovered a little bit of a
scandal here that I haven't seen anybody else talk about
this online. But Mark in this episode says he's fifty two.
But somebody on the MTV Challenge subreddit recently caught the
man on bumble and screenshot his profile where he says
he's forty nine. He says on this profile forty nine, Carl,
how do you feel about how do you feel about
men who lie to get past a filter? In this case?
I think it's age fifty Mark. It's my theory.
Speaker 4: I mean, there are worse things to lie about, like
telling someone that you're six feet tall and not actually
being six feet tall?
Speaker 3: How many? How many?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: What's it acceptable? If you're five to eleven? Can you round?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Even five eleven?
Speaker 4: You're actual height?
Speaker 3: All right? Age two? But age age you have a
little more flexibility.
Speaker 4: I have a little more flexibility with age.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've all lied about our age, right, No, Well.
Speaker 4: Why are you lying about your age?
Speaker 6: Zach?
Speaker 4: Are you trying to get around filters?
Speaker 6: No? Not filters.
Speaker 5: But like two or three years ago, I went to
a wrestling show down in Champagne, Illinois, and I was
waiting outside to meet the wrestlers. I met a cute
girl and we started talking, hanging it off, and she
mentioned she's like twenty eight. I think I was like
thirty seven at the time, but I was like young
thad too, because I wanted, you know, I don't want
to be the whole.
Speaker 4: That's not okay, that's still trying to get around the
filters and going that far different.
Speaker 3: Wait, how long? How many was that? Five years? Different?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so five years five years is too long?
Speaker 4: Three years, two or three? I mean it's not.
Speaker 3: That big of a different, so you'd forgive me.
Speaker 4: I feel like, is that And I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it's shitty, Mark. I think it's shitty. Leave
some for the rest of us, Mark, you know, leave
some for us actual guys in our forties.
Speaker 4: I mean I do say this and then think about
a little bit more. And I mean that is starting
off whatever. He's starting off with a lie.
Speaker 6: So not great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this makes me think that I need to up
my age range when we're in Chicago to fifty something
to see if we can find Mark on bumble or
hinge while we're there.
Speaker 6: Oh, for sure, we definitely should.
Speaker 3: I support you in that effort.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna do that right now, so I
don't forget and I'm tasking.
Speaker 3: We get Rachel.
Speaker 4: Remind me while we're there.
Speaker 6: Deal, you'll have to let the screenshot and show it
to Mark.
Speaker 5: Do you hear that?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: All right? One second, go beat your children.
Speaker 4: I see Tim yelling and screaming.
Speaker 6: At his children.
Speaker 3: Did my face?
Speaker 4: What were they doing?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: I don't even know, But like I'm annoyed because as
we started this podcast, I would over it for minutes.
I said, here's the expectations tonight, guys. At eight thirty
we're doing this, I set alarms on the Alexa to like,
you know whatever, They're not listening to my plan that
I let out for them. Anyway, we get Rachel. Hey, guys,
I've been loving Rachel back on these shows. I didn't
know how much I loved her, but now that she's
been back in a couple of seasons, I love her
so much. Same she talks about her biggest win.
Speaker 4: I'm a little I'm a little worried that she might
start like slipping into the Derrek Kaczynski try hard bit,
Just just ever so slightly worried because I see a
little bit of it, like a tinge of it.
Speaker 3: Coming, so I see a little she performs a little bit. Yeah,
she performs a little bit yeah. But she talks about
her yes, and she talks about her best win ever,
which was the duel to which was she was the
first winner. She beat like Landon and Brad and Marks,
she beat all the boys and of course it showed
her butt in that those shorts that she was wearing.
That final best butt, best butt of the show, best
body in the whole.
Speaker 4: Showel has such an amazing body. She has always had
an amazing All of these women, what we who are
we kidding? All of these women have amazing bodies, but
Rachel is like a whole.
Speaker 3: She's like a tier, a top tier.
Speaker 4: Like a yeah Rachel, Rachel's Rachel is hot, Rachel is hot.
Speaker 3: Cara talks about the Laurel rivalry. Do we need more
Carra and Laurel rivalry? After all stars?
Speaker 4: For no, I'm so funny over there their ship. Cara
talks about it. Laurel also mentions that you know they're
on a team, they're still rivals, so we'll just deal
with it. She call. She says that Cara is her
little sister and that she's tired of being I'm like,
I know, I don't think that Cara actually looks up
to you. I think that's an analogy that we all
keep making. But I don't feel like Cara actually looks
up to her or wants to like be like her.
Like Laurel, you were gone for years and Cara dominated
this game, and again last season she only barely won.
I just I really hope that Carra kicks her out.
I hope that Laurel leaves before Kara this season. I
really really hope that she leaves before Kara because I'm
so tired of her holier than now attitude.
Speaker 5: Especially if Kara is the one to send her home
in elimination.
Speaker 4: God, I would fucking love. That'd be so great. Really,
I really just like Laurel.
Speaker 3: I do too. She's the more I see of Laurel,
the less I like her. So now that she's played
her second season in a row, it's like, I'm done
with Laurel, and I'm usually so excited to see her back,
but she's one that needs to take seasons off between.
Speaker 4: So She's so good at a lot of this game,
but she's just such a fucking asshole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she has no she cannot have she has no
personal growth like inside her, Like I don't still think
she has the ability to do that.
Speaker 4: No, I did, Tim. You're probably gonna hate him a
lot for this.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 4: I actually really liked Polly this episode.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh fuck all right. I really love well
if you kick her out.
Speaker 4: I really love how she stuck up for her for
Kara in this episode. The things that he had to
say about Cara, I really really loved.
Speaker 2: It's a good thing they're broken up now.
Speaker 3: Uh well. Anissa says that she's known for being an
elimination queen. She's done twenty six eliminations at this point,
but she wants her fourteenth win this season to beat
Cara's win. I guess they're tied for wins. I don't know.
I don't care about this. It's weird because she says
she wants the and then later she gets mad for
having to go into elimination.
Speaker 4: It's like you're domin I mean, that's how they all are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Aniece is just the worst Casey talks about nanny.
Don't care. Leroy talks about his kids again. I love Leroy,
and I love his kids. I've had enough of that
with all stars for so therefore don't care about this
right now.
Speaker 4: Also, I realized that he left only two weeks after
the baby was born, and he didn't bring any photos.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought that was a little weird too.
Speaker 4: After I understand I understand him thinking like it's a
it'll weaken him a little bit. But I found it
a little strange.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did it too. It goes over Amanda and Torri,
they like, stop fighting. I don't remember why they fought.
I don't really care. I don't care that they made
up either. Anybody else cared about this?
Speaker 5: No, I think we talked about this last week. But basically, uh,
Amanda and Festi were.
Speaker 6: Dating, and.
Speaker 3: What does that have to do with Amanda because he was.
Speaker 6: Dating Amanda and then he went and slept with Tory.
Speaker 4: While he was still dating Amanda.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all right, I remember that. No, right, I
guess that's a piece of sh No, not at all,
I guess I still don't care about this rivalry.
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't care about this rivalry at all.
I enjoy how messy Amanda is, but that's about it.
Speaker 3: I don't care about rivalry. I do very much care
about though. Its Corey and the puzzles. Although that seems
to be put it to bed. Corey is fucking dominating puzzles.
How about this guy? Do you guys think is is
he going to keep up? Is he going to keep
doing well at puzzles this season?
Speaker 4: No? I think that's just luck. I think this was
first game of the season, beginner's luck. I don't know
how he happened to be the first one to do this.
Speaker 3: He says he's been working at puzzles. You don't believe him.
We always say you should, you should work on your
your weaknesses in the off season. Maybe Corey did that.
Speaker 5: I want I see how he does when a math
puzzle comes up.
Speaker 3: That Yeah. Yeah. I don't think Corey's everybody in great
but going to be great at puzzles. But I wonder
if he could be like how Lee roy is are swimming,
like just sort of serviceable, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like, I also feel like this was not that difficult
of a puzzle. It was three D. It was like
you it was you were very tactile with it, Like
it was pieces that you could put into different shapes
and or put into one shape that was it felt.
Speaker 2: You think it was that difficult and you should ask
Tony about that.
Speaker 3: People really struggled a little league.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there, you know, there were a lot of people
who had a lot of trouble with it. I didn't
feel like this puzzle looked that difficult. I think if
we put uh Corey in front of one of the
things where you have to like connect the two dots
with a line that goes through the big giant box
and it can't cross itself for a Sudoku or anything
that happens to be math related, or where they have
to count triangles in a giant triangle like things like that,
I don't think that he's going to.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: I think this just happened to be luck and he
just happened to get those pieces in the right places
to begin with.
Speaker 3: I'll give him slightly more credit, but not much.
Speaker 6: More.
Speaker 3: Rivalries. I don't care about Harasio, kylind Olivia and URIs.
I remember they had some issue last in the Battle
of the Champion, New Champion whatever. I don't care about
this either. I don't care about.
Speaker 4: This one more about more than I do the Tory
and Amanda one just because it's so new and it
was fun watching Olivia completely stab Maurice in the face
and then also like and then later on in this episode,
when Michelle gets really upset about all of us, it's like,
oh no, but this is You're doing the same shit
that you did to everybody else last season. This is
how you ended up in this position. So I like
this rivalry a little bit more. I don't care that
Horacio or Kylander in it. It's the two ladies do
I care about more?
Speaker 3: But well, believe it in not guys, We're still in
the challenge. Nobody's even finished this challenge yet. This is
all the talking wolf he talked about. So people are
finally finishing this challenge. Laurel finishes it first out of anybody,
Kara is right behind it. Those so second out out
of every single person, Kara is the second place finisher.
Here Tory and Jordan talk. I'm also over Tory and Jordan.
I feel like we've seen their story. I don't know,
do we care that they're friends now?
Speaker 4: No, I didn't realize that they have become such good
friends or seemingly good friends. Again, I mean good for
them on being able to overcome their broken engagement. But
I don't really care.
Speaker 3: Avery Adam. They're official guys, really don't care about that,
not neither Wolf. He does, though, Wolf, he's very invested
in that relationship.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just a low key jealous out of Adam, So.
Speaker 3: Don't be jealous of him. That guy's terrible, and Avery
enjoying him means that Avery is also terrible.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Avery, How far do we think Avery's gonna go
in this game? We think she's gonna make it through
next I think.
Speaker 6: She'll yeah, I mean it gets slightly passed halfway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she's a pawn. I don't think she
has any real power or control. If she makes it,
it's because people are letting her, you know. I think
she's one of those Uh Devin's boat fucking sinks or
some shit like that. Yeah, and so he just swims it.
Who knew Devin was like capable of this? What do
you guys think of Devin's h swim here?
Speaker 4: Well, we knew that Devon was good at swimming, like
he's always been decent at swimming.
Speaker 3: Umm. Yeah, I think it's more just like the the
gumption behind just like, oh my boat sunk. I'm just
gonna fucking do this anyway. I don't know if I
thought Devin, I thought he would just be the type
that's like all my boat's sunk. I guess I'm just
gonna be done.
Speaker 4: I think that. I think in the last few seasons,
like when he came back that Invasion the Champions whatever
it was before that that he and Tory won. When
he came back that season, like he seemed to really
come back ready and willing to like do the thing
to win, and his attitude seems to have changed a
bit there, and I think this was just a follow
up to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the first season since his win, so yeah,
maybe he is trying to prove it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, its rider Dies was the one he won.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 4: The chat room is talking about Fessei changing his name
back to Fessel, yet no one gives a shit. I
honestly completely forgot about it too until I saw it
in the chat room. So Stephanie, thank you for pointing
that out, But truly don't care.
Speaker 3: Katie is just Katie is the same old Katie who
I love. Terrible at this she's but she's trying. I
really think Katie tries her best. She is just one
of these people who's just bad at everything.
Speaker 4: Athletic bad, She's bad at all of it. She's bad
at this game. The only thing that she's decent at
was politicing back in the day. But she can't politic.
I mean she might actually be able politic in this
game because there were so many old people, but the
last game that she was on, like it, Yeah, if
it's a bunch of new people, she can't politic or shit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did love Ellen in the episode when I
think at CT is like, yeah, we got a bunch
of b side teams, and then we got Katie who's
just having good time and it's like cuts her being
like this is gonna be a fun trip.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have some people who don't want to be
here for vakate or we're here for vacation Katie.
Speaker 3: And well, I know this is probably like you don't
care about this. I love seeing Katie like this. I
love I love seeing Katie. This is this is like
it was twenty years ago in the show. I love it.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's crying to Tina, saying she's spinning in circles
like a dip. Shit. She's like so embarrassed about her performance.
Loved everything about this, just loved it all.
Speaker 4: It was fantastic.
Speaker 3: Poulie and Kara, they're gross. I don't give a shit
about them. Disgusting, especially now that they're broken up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't care that they were cheering each other
on I appreciated his confessionals where he was really sticking
up for Kara. I appreciated those, but I don't care
about them.
Speaker 3: In the game, I couldn't listen to him because he
was wearing that stupid shirt with the fucking shoulder ripped.
It's like, what, I can't pay attention to what you're
saying when you're dressing.
Speaker 4: I mean, he seems to really be embracing his his byingness,
which good for him.
Speaker 3: It's just intolerable that gay.
Speaker 4: What wast Oh that a cat in front of Wolfy's
No I think the cat made a noise and there
was a cat rubbin on the microphone.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think I heard of her too.
Speaker 6: I don't care.
Speaker 5: I'm I can't remember what uh what point this happened at,
But just with Carlin bringing up Paul's by or Pauli's
buying us, did anyone else feel like that scene of
him and THEO where he kisses THEO has like a
completely different.
Speaker 3: Yes, I had the same thought, dude, saying thought, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It felt significantly creepier. Yeah, now that we know that
that Polly has come out and all of that, Like
it was funny and ridiculous when it first happened, but
looking at it now, like he gives him the pack,
he tries to lick him, like, it's just kind of like, uh,
they feel like unwanted advances.
Speaker 3: Dude, Yeah, it was cross.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it felt a little a lot off.
Speaker 3: Another player playing for the kids, Brandon. I love seeing
Brandon back too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it looks like Brandon has fallen in the
same pitfall that he fell into years ago.
Speaker 3: That motherfucker cannot catch a break, dude, he can't catch
a break. Why does everybody hate him so much? Is
it just because they know that he'll forgive hit them
or something? Why is he always no, he's always the
elimination guy. I don't get it.
Speaker 5: I think it's a combination that and I just I
don't know how much he like hangs out or talks
to the cast when he's not on the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he just doesn't quite fit in with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that might be it just yeah,
that kid cannot catch a break.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, hey guys, now we know the winners. Anyway,
the challenge is actually over now. The winners, I know,
it is a long one. The winners were by Era,
ct and Rachel, Laurel and Bananas, Corey and Tory, Michelle
and Harassio. The losers were Mark and Katie, Ryan and
Kelly Anne, Leroy and Naya Theo and Nurice.
Speaker 4: I was kind of surprised that Mark was in the
last place. I was very surprised that Corey was in first.
I was very surprised that Jordan didn't do better. Yeah,
I came in last.
Speaker 3: That would surprise me. Leroy last didn't, and Ryan last didn't. No,
Katy Katie didn't surprise me at all. There was some
that were like, oh, of course a Theo being last.
Theo really surprised me. Kelly, I mean Michelle winning is Yeah,
it was a little bit of a surprise.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kelly Anne uh being last. We kind of talked
about a little bit earlier, like she is on such
a stacked women's team. They I like, it was to
me it was a toss up between her or Aviv
and Aviv only because we haven't seen her in years.
Speaker 3: So Uh. Devin though, says that he doesn't care that
Leroy was last place because Leroy plays a shady game.
I'm not sure if we've we've ever heard anybody say
this about Leroy. Why did Devin say this?
Speaker 4: I feel like the only, like the closest to a
shady game that he has ever played has been within
the last like two or three years. Maybe it was
just the last soon that he was on. He's always
seemed to play it pretty upfront and like it's very
obviously he's always been on Banana's team. But I don't
remember him ever playing a shady game.
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly.
Speaker 5: I think I think Cam plays kind of a shady game.
I think ever since he got together Cam like it's
kind of guilt by association.
Speaker 4: Gotcha, he's just getting her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that makes sense. We get just
a very brief scene of Ryan Uh talking about Laurel,
saying that she's like the poison of the team. He
doesn't trust her. Derek is sort of caught. I think
this has leftover stuff from All Stars for right, Yes,
and I don't really they.
Speaker 4: Did Derek did clarify that she and Nicole dated for
a while after All Stars for or after whatever the
last season was, was it All Stars Wars?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, y.
Speaker 4: That they dated for a while. So it's like, I
just I really dislike both of them. It really dislike Laurel.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Laurel, yeah, she knows that she has to
sort of pick, and I forget she has reasons, but
she's basically picking between Kara and Aviv. One of those
two is going into elimination.
Speaker 4: She says that she doesn't want to pick Emily because Emily.
Speaker 3: Is jacked, right, Yes, she wants her to stay on
the team.
Speaker 4: In all reality, if you look at Emily next to Kara,
they honestly Cara looks more jacked than Emily does. And
Cara has been playing this game for long. She knows
how this game is played. Emily's been gone for ten years.
I love her and I'm super excited to see her there.
But I felt like Laurel saying this was a fucking
cop out. It was her trying to cover her ass,
and it's just her trying to say say something other
than I just don't want Kara here.
Speaker 3: That's exactly the problem I had with it that she
phrased it has sort of like I've got a pick
between CARAA and Aviv and it's a really tough one.
I don't know who I'm gonna pick. It's like, what
are you?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a tough like really know that you're
gonna that You're gonna pick Kara.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, it's like you you know Cara, like you've
been friends with her and you've played this game with
her a million times and Aviv you've never played the
game with her. Yeah, and and not certainly not for
eighteen years? Like what why are you? Why is this
a decision? And it's because she hates car That's the
only reason that this is a.
Speaker 4: Joice if she, honestly, if she picks a Viv, I
will be absolutely.
Speaker 3: Floored she should pick Yeah, No, I don't think.
Speaker 4: There's not like she should pick Aviv because if this
were any other team, if this were any other circumstance,
then Aviv would be the one going in. But because
it's Kara and Laurel, Laurel's going to pick Kara. And honestly,
part of me feels like Laurel always has this issue
with Kara because Laurel's fucking scared of her, like she
she knows that Kara is beloved, and she knows that
Kara can do all of these different things, and she
doesn't want someone there who can do all the same
things that she can.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, there's a bat in the house. Guys, do
we care?
Speaker 4: Nop?
Speaker 3: I like the bats scene. I thought that was gonna charming.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 3: Well for you hate spiders, right, yep? Do you care
about bats? Our bats creepy to you?
Speaker 2: Yep? I had a bat in my house. I just
pulled up a cage and it flew right in and
I took it outside and let it.
Speaker 3: Go, And no problem. You didn't care about that either.
You got Carl and Zach. Do you guys care about bats? No,
you're not freaked out by him or No.
Speaker 6: I think they're pretty cool.
Speaker 5: I've seen I've seen someone I've been done like cave tours,
and they're always pretty fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah. We had when I was a kid, We've had
bats that have roosted in the eves of the of
the front porch and that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: I think they're neat, Yeah, I I they are the
they're the animal that freaks me out. I don't. I
don't care about spiders or snakes or whatever. Those don't
scare me, and bats don't scare me. I just think disgusting.
I just think they're the grossest. They look gross, they
feel gross, they make gross noises. I don't want to
even look at them. They're so gross.
Speaker 2: That's the weirdest description ever.
Speaker 3: Bets are gross. Man, They're so gross.
Speaker 2: I complete disagree.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't need lots of insects. They do. They
eat lots of insects. I actually, Juan, I have baguano
fertilizer in my house.
Speaker 3: For the Yeah, I'm sure that they're I'm sure they're
good for the world. They're gross animals, that they're gross creatures. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: I kind of like this is this is sort of
like they're talking like pre politicking before the whatever they
call it when they talk at that big table thing.
M uh. And I kind of like bananas, Like obviously
that gives no ships about his team, Like he doesn't
give a ship. Somebody's talking to him about who's going
into elimination. He's like, I don't, I don't care. It's
not who cares, because I think he's just closer to
Era one, So he doesn't you know, as long as
he's in no if Era one, he doesn't care about
his own team.
Speaker 4: Well, and I think he also knows that all five
women on his team are super fucking strong, or at
least seem Avive seems super strong. Yeah, all the shots
that we got of her, she looks jacked, just like
all the rest of them do. I mean, in all reality, Yeah,
the women on that team are stacked. I think, Yeah,
he doesn't really care about the guys because it's he's
gonna be losing, hopefully a not great guy anyway.
Speaker 3: So yep, So, Carlyn, you mentioned on All Stars four
Adam sometimes had these weird confessionals where he just seemed
so sad and like overwhelmed at life. Why did you
get that same impression from Kelly and during this part
where she's talking about your animal sanctuary and.
Speaker 4: Stuff, not entirely, I got the impression that she and
the boyfriend that she was with last season are no
longer together and that maybe that's why she was feeling
sad and upset.
Speaker 3: She seems to super sad to me in that confessional.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean she she definitely had an air about
her but it wasn't quite like the It wasn't like
Adam last season. Adam last season seemed like there was
some serious things happening in his life that he didn't
know how to deal with.
Speaker 3: All Right, we get c T and Durrell. They're laying
in bed chatting. I like this. I don't know, I
don't have anything interesting to say. It just kind of
fun watching them just like b dudes chilling. Yeah, that's like,
that's the room I would have been in, like, oh,
you guys aren't doing anything. Yeah, let me hang out
with you guys. I don't want to be out there
with them outside like being.
Speaker 4: Is this also when Tina starts talking about Aero one.
Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah, my note here, My note here says that
Tina looks hot man, and man does she She's way
more attractive now than she was back there in the day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tina looks like she's you know, trimmed up quite
a bit. And yeah Tina looks great this episode season
Uh Yeah, I just I loved her comments about you know,
Era one, we're we're in bed by nine thirty or
we want a good night's sleep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is true because once it showed everybody kind
of partying outside doing their politics. There were no Era
one people out there.
Speaker 4: It was all asleep with the imass on yep.
Speaker 3: But this is where we see Tony trying to convince
Corey to throw in Jordan instead of him, which is
a smart move from Tony. It's the only move he's.
Speaker 4: Got, It is the only movie he's got. But he
just I know it. Hearing him tried up a politic,
it just it. He didn't sound convincing. He sounded I
don't know, he sounded dumb.
Speaker 3: But that's that's all he could What else? What would
be your pa If you're Tony Carly, what do you say?
Speaker 4: No? One percent? That's the only that's the only argument
that there is, Like do you want to bring someone
who is one hundred percent going to beat you in
this final? Or do you want to bring someone who
you can beat? And I completely agree with that argument.
It just I don't know it. Maybe it's just because
Tony just always sounds dumb. It just sounded dumb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, it's and it's not. It's not the
typical Tony approach to the game. But I kind of
like it. I kind of I kind of like that
he's trying. He sees that this is a problem and
he's trying to like get ahead of it a little bit.
I don't know if it's gonna work, but he's trying.
Speaker 4: I also I at one point in time, Cory says
something about how you know, oh my, I have my
biggest rival on our on my team, or something something
to that effect, talking about Tony. It's like, is he
actually a rival or you just saying that because you
threw him down in a season many seasons ago.
Speaker 3: Like, I have a feeling they're cool outside of the show.
I can't prove it. I have a feeling they're fine.
Speaker 4: Well inside the show.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, but they have to play up a rivalry
of some sort. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: It just it seems like he's trying to manufacture drama
when there isn't any.
Speaker 3: Well, Banana's had the line of the day I thought
he called the romance between Nourice and Harassio quote junior
high school vomit Fest, which I think is pretty accurate
summary of this fucking thing. Is there anyone in the
universe that gives a shit about Horasio and Nuris No, he.
Speaker 2: Answers as much as I gave a shit about old
Johnny trying to hook up with every new girl that
comes on the show.
Speaker 3: Some of that I liked, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 4: I did find it kind of funny when Johnny was
saying this, because all that I could think of in
the back of my head was like, oh, so people
should come on here single so they can hook up
with everybody else they're not cheating on someone back home,
you know? Is that where we're going.
Speaker 3: Don't make zactly get on a defending bananas kick, please, yeah,
don't want that. Josh has some stupid reason as to
why THEO should pick PAULI. I don't even remember what
the reason was. But this is just Josh trying to know.
Speaker 4: Because of it was because apparently they're gonna everybody on
their team's gonna team up against them.
Speaker 2: But I.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was odd.
Speaker 3: It's just Josh trying to avoid elimination. But like, nobody's aiming,
nobody's coming for you, Josh. It's the same conversation that
we always have.
Speaker 4: Like a few years ago, Josh and Polly were like besties,
and then they were honest Polly's last season of the
Challenge and they became rivals. Because they I can't remember why,
but I think that Josh is still holding on to
that and it's still like we need to get him
out because you know, I have beef with him, and
THEO has been with them, and we should just give
him out.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So THEO talks about the conflict between him and Pollie.
Uh And I really like the way THEO talks about this.
It reminds me the way Tim Wallace talks about Donald Trump,
which is just sort of like dismissing it. Just the
way that THEO talks about it. It's it's not a
real rivalry. He's just sort of was like, yeah, Polly's
they tried to kiss me. It was a real fucking
weird moment. I don't know, it's just kind of funny
the way he talked about it.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: Leroy talks to Laurel and Casey about parenting. Yeah, all
this stuff, blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Well really quickly I saw that just a second ago.
Wolfe h Hey, Stove, you have you have people who
are already missing you. It sounds like you did a
really great job in last week's episode.
Speaker 3: You're well loved so well to make a deal stove.
Speaker 4: Well, that deal includes you have to win this season's
public league.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well you're contractually obligated. Sorry yep.
Speaker 3: Uh, so we this this, this is the conversation with
CT and Derek. They're sitting on that big stump that
looks like trees.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was weird, weird seating.
Speaker 3: Stump that I don't what do you call that? Fucking
things something? It was a stump that looking at the
seat something. That's what I was trying.
Speaker 4: A bunch of weird seats that were all at different levels.
It was. It was a little strange.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cool.
Speaker 4: Footholds or seats or what.
Speaker 3: And I think that out of the whole episode, this
is probably my favorite scene because these seemed just like
real people having a real conversation between CT and Derek,
because they're just talking about their old friendships and sort
of like, how am I supposed to decide between like
Mark and Derell, Like these guys have known for twenty years,
and you can tell that they're sort of they're actually
struggling with this, uh, with this decision in ways that
they don't normally on these challenges, because there's normally a
very clear person they care about more and less. But
in this case, Cet is just like, Hey, I love Derell.
I've known her for a million years. I don't think
Derell is going to be as helpful, but I don't
want to throw them in. And so he and Derek
are sort of ping pong and ideas on how to
how to handle this situation. And Derek says in one
of his confessionals that Darrell did him a quote non
game favor. We don't know what that is, but he
apparently Darrell showed up in a way that was very
meaningful to Derek, and Derek wants to pay him back
for that whatever that was. What do you guys think,
Is this like a mature way to handle this or
are we going to see this in other eras like
what's going on?
Speaker 4: I enjoyed watching them talk this whole thing through, But
to fast forward real quick to the actual deliberation a
lot sort of thing. There were potentially three different people
who could have gone in, who could be picked to
go into this elimination. Darrell is just one of them,
like CT and Rachel could pick. And since they decided,
CT and Rachel decided that they would be the opposite
sex would be picking for that. When Derek kind of
throws himself in for Darrell, I didn't really understand why
he did that because Rachel could still pick Brad. Like
it just it felt very weird to me.
Speaker 3: I wonder if part of it was I think the
part of it was showy, but I think part of
it too was just sort of like the team camaraderie.
They didn't want to tear the team apart and certainly
didn't want to break friendships, and so it was sort
of I wonder if that was sort of the bigger
way to do it, Like this is not worth losing friendships,
It's not worth this, Like it's a game. I'll just
volunteer for the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just just Derek knows better, he knows better than
to throw himself in. They all know better than to
throw themselves in. Like you're competing for a million dollars
and to stay on this game. Why are you throwing
yourself in on the first episode?
Speaker 3: Yep, Well that does bring us in nominations, So here
we are in nominations.
Speaker 2: Nominations.
Speaker 3: Don't say my name, bitch. There's a big glass hour glass.
They stole this from Survivor Carlin you're unfamiliar with an hourglass,
but it's a survivor thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not really, was not aware.
Speaker 3: But they have to like deliberate while this hourglass drips away,
and then by the end they have to pick a
thing or whatever. H So, as reminded, the winners are
picking the second person to go in, but even the
losers are there, so even the losers can sort of
state who they want to go against the ideas. This
is sort of a no holds barred conversation. Nowhere to hide.
You got to say in front of everybody, I think
big surprises.
Speaker 4: Real spicy later on in the season, having the winners
use losers and the other potential nominees in here get
real spicy and I'm excited.
Speaker 3: Yep, I'm too. I think it's great. H So. Yeah,
this is where Derek says he's stepping in. Drell says okay,
CT says okay, get another tip. Yep, yep. If people
are volunteering, you let them, that's right, let them volunteer.
Eric two. This is where Ryan says that he to
go against Brandon, who he touched on this earlier. But
poor Brandon caught totally off guard. He's just like, wait, what,
I didn't see this coming. It's like, how did you
not see it coming? Everybody always wants to throw you in, Brandon,
Like you should go into every single one of these
assuming you're gonna go in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like Ryan has relationships with the other people. It, Yeah,
it made sense why Ryan chose him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't blame Ryan, but I do feel bad
for Brandon. And uh, you know, Brandon's got a good attitude.
He always does. But I just want this guy to
get a break. I just want somebody to be nice
to him for a week and like, let him have
a week off. You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he always has a good attitude until he's thrown
in four times in a row, and then he has
a shitty attitude. Yeah, completely understandably so.
Speaker 3: But yep. Uh. In Tony's deliberation, he tries again to
just throw out Jordan's name again. Jordan takes this in
stride to he's fine with that.
Speaker 4: Super cool, calm and collected, like I will get you
to a final. Why you're thinking that you should throw
me in right now? Because I will get you there?
Speaker 3: Yep. But it cuts to John A, who says, like, listen,
it's it's Tory, and she's deciding between like Devin Jordan
and Tony, like it's gonna it's Tony, Like there's not. Yeah,
there's no way it's not Tony.
Speaker 4: Best friend and ex fiance who is a good friend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's no chance he's going down swinging, but he's
he's you know, it's got to be him. Uh. And
then the fourth era, Nourice basically says she wants Olivia,
which I think everybody can kind of understand why.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Michelle, Michelle then throws out her whole argument,
which kind I kind of touched on earlier. Her whole
argument was, you know what Horacio is to you, Olivia
is to me, Like she's my number one, She's the
one I love most in the house. But I found
odd wording. But then the who is it? Kylon throws
out like, Okay, but you're the reason why they're in
this position and why Maurice wants Olivia. You are the
one who put them here. You're the one who caused
all of this last season. And then I really loved
that Michelle was self aware enough in her confessional to
say that she has fucked up so many like positions
of power in the past, she needs to not do
it this time and then she starts crying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure Michelle is gonna be great at
this game. I thought she would because she's really good
on Survivor. She's a really good social player. She's missing
some component of this game. I don't know what it is,
but she's just missing it. She's not doing it well
every season. Yeah, this is it.
Speaker 4: Every season. Yep, there's something that's not quite there every
single season.
Speaker 3: Yep. It's not clicking. I don't know why not, because, yeah,
she did very well both both her Survivor seasons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you guys think of Era one having
the guys choose the girls and the girls choose the guys.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so glad you mentioned that it's cop out? Right,
it's a total cop out. It is a tote'll fucking
cop out a. Nissa's right. This is the way that
they throw Anissa in with Rachel, avoiding that blood on
her hands, and it's they don't need to make a
decision on the men anyway, So this is just Rachel
leaving this conversation cleanly. Yeah, Anissa's right. I have no
problem with it. That's the game that's what it is.
But that's that is what this is. Yeah, anybody disagree
with that?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: I think I think I would disagree if before Derek
volunteered himself the you know CT and Rachel said hey,
this is how we're going to handle things. Yeah, the
fact that they didn't say anything about that until after
the men's was already decided.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do think that's what I think they.
I think them whoever is the power players on that
got together and said, hey, listen, it should probably be
Derek and Anissa. How do we do this with hurting
the fewest amount of feelings? And this is the lesson.
This is where they landed. Derek threw himself in and
set throws in Anissa and that's it. So I think
that's how that's going to shake out.
Speaker 4: We'll see, Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if I mean,
if Anissa truly does go in and if Anissa comes
back what she has to say about it, I will
be let's see if there's any backlash to it. It
may be a completely point.
Speaker 3: But yeah, only two more things that happen in these
like little deliberations before we get to the poly and
THEO thing. One is that Avery. Her big argument is
basically just like, hey, let me prove I can do this,
which I I.
Speaker 4: Don't know any of you. This is the first time
I've met you. All.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, does not work. That's not how you do this.
That's not how you do this. Avery.
Speaker 4: No, not a good argument.
Speaker 3: No, and Amanda throws out nelly T to Corey, kind
of hoping that the nelly T connection will save her.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciated that. Corey was like,
you got to give me something more, like us both
being friends with a person is not enough, Like you
have caused so much drama over the last however, many
years of being on this show with me, with my friends,
with other people, Like, you gotta give me something more
than just we both have a mutual friend that we love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that didn't work. And now finally, guys, we're
on to Polly and Theo. This whole thing. Uh. I
kind of like this deliberation. Uh. Poullie looks at Theo
and just tries to pum this badass front of like,
if you're calling me into the sand, let's call let's
go into the sand. We'll do this like men and
it's fucking pathetic and it falls flat and he does
not look cool, but THEO looks super cool, and he's
just like, uh, yeah, that's how it's gonna go. Where
I'm gonna take you out and we're gonna go do that.
Like I don't know. It just did not work out
for Polly, No, it didn't. Paullie's got his intents, he's
got like his batmoan Batman voice talking, and he just
looks real stupid.
Speaker 4: Yes, he's we see Polly from a few seasons ago
is officially back. This is where my my appreciation for
him disappeared real.
Speaker 3: I never I never had any.
Speaker 6: I enjoyed Polly in this moment.
Speaker 5: That's because I feel like it'd be a lot of
people in that case would try to wheezel out and
try to stay out of elimination.
Speaker 6: And he's just like, hey, I heard you saying my name. Cool,
let's do this.
Speaker 3: But that's not how he posed it. I don't know.
And and he seemed just very inauthentic, like the way
he said it and like this the fake gruffness to
his voice, like there was just nothing sort of real
about it. And I just didn't take it seriously at all.
Speaker 4: I think it might just be because Paully just doesn't
seem like like he's ever real. He always feels like
he's putting an air on.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Always. It's probably my least favorite part of him.
That's Yeah, it's he's not a real he's not a
real human. He's just he just does things. I don't know,
not into that, but yeah, THEO is the one here
that really ends up looking like a badass. He's just
he's real calm and collect and he's just like, hey,
if if I have to take you out, then I
have to, like, we'll just go do this. And I
don't know, this is something about throwing a mission on
more of the world's too. I don't remember this. I
don't care. This seems weird to be holding a grudge.
They were.
Speaker 4: They had to like pick up things and run up
a very steep hill, and the other team was at
the top like letting bouldered you know, quote unquote boulders
balls that sort of thing, and they had water jets
that they could spray at them, and Laurel kept walking directly.
Laurel and Johnny kept walking directly in front of Kara
and going as slowly as possible, and every time Cara
would try to move to the side, Laurel would sidestep,
and it was it was super obvious, super obvious that
they were throwing the challenge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember that, but so Paully's holding that
grudge on Car's behalf all these years later. All right,
well that's the episode. Guess we'll figure out who's going
into elimination and who's going home next episode.
Speaker 4: I guess next episode eight eliminations. I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: How the fuck do we spend almost an hour talking
about this episode because nothing happened in this episode?
Speaker 3: What are you talking about in hours? Where the stuff
happened in this episode?
Speaker 2: God?
Speaker 6: Yeah, and just think happened?
Speaker 5: Well, if we're just seeing how excited you are to
get to watch an elimination next week, and then watch
it again, and then a third time, and then five
more times in a row, see the same thing.
Speaker 3: Happen, and then we get to come and talk about it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So do we do we think something will happen?
Do we think it's going to be the same elimination
eight times in a row, or do we think they're
gonna do different ones?
Speaker 5: I would hope they would change it up because I'd
hope the producers were smart enough to know what terrible
television that would be.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well see, I hope it's a long endurance thing.
I hope they all have to do a long ass
endurance thing. I don't care if it's the same thing.
I just want them to be destroyed.
Speaker 4: I I don't want it to be the same thing,
because I do think that it would get really boring
over and over and over again. But I'm a little
worried that it's going to be because I don't know.
I mean, unless they have multiple things set up in
different areas, I don't know how they're going to like
completely flip the set every single time they need to
go to a new thing, or unless it's like you know,
uh Paul wrestle and then balls in and then I
don't know, a few different things that would use kind
of the same area. Maybe they do that.
Speaker 5: I'd love to see them like show up to the
arena and be something like where they have like four
cards faced down and each arrogance to flip a card
and whatever like eliminations on that that's what.
Speaker 6: That era does.
Speaker 4: Ooh, that would be fun.
Speaker 6: So each each arro gets its own elimination.
Speaker 4: Oh so both people, both men and women from the
all right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because if you're Marria, like some of the old seasons,
the host would just like have like cards in their hands.
They're like ask like pick a card, whatever eliminations on there, that's.
Speaker 4: What you're playing. We have seen that a few times. Yeah,
you're right, Okay, so maybe they could have multiple eliminations
set up. I just hope that it's not the same one.
And I hope that if it's, if anything is physical,
that we actually get real physical eliminations. I hope it's
none of this bullshit physical stuff that we've seen in
the last two seasons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I kind of. I kind of hope that
those aren't gone forever. Yeah, kind of.
Speaker 4: In some of the in some of the previews, it
has kind of looked like we have gotten like it
looks like there was a hall brawl at one point
in time.
Speaker 3: Okay, I hope.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that we get some real eliminations this season
because the bullshit physical stuff from last season was not
fun to watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I agree, I.
Speaker 2: Think it's going to be a hall brawl, but it's
one of those where they have to start at the
end of the wall, not like by their bell, so.
Speaker 4: They can't get the full running start lame. Yeah, we'll see.
Next week will be interesting. Do we think we're gonna
get anything other than eight eliminations next episode?
Speaker 3: No, I think that's what's gonna bean, which I think
is fine. Two episodes. We're getting rid of eight players,
and that's fine.
Speaker 4: I am so astatic that they are getting rid of
that they're doing a purge immediately. I think it's fucking fantastic.
Speaker 3: Oh, I just really, I'm of two minds because I
like all these players, and I want to see more
of of literally all of them, except for like, you know,
like an Avery or something like that. Yeah, you know Josh, Like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we haven't had like I want to see more Derek.
Speaker 6: We haven't had him on in like ten seasons. But like,
we could lose him next week.
Speaker 5: We could lose Katie, who's been you know, so much
fun to see, like be horrible, and like we could
easily be here in a week being like, Wow, there's
eight people that we are really excited to watch this season.
Speaker 6: They're just gone by week three.
Speaker 3: That's my that's my concern, Zach. I guess we'll see
how next week's work shakes out. But that's exactly my
that's I concerned too.
Speaker 4: I'd still rather the purge. I I just I love
that there's a purge because we have said so many
times in the last you know, however many seasons of
this game, like just fucking get rid of a bunch
of people, like this is insane. We can't keep carrying
all of these people. We've got more episode, We've got
more people, we do episodes, and yeah, just all of
that sort of thing. It I completely agree that it could.
It could potentially be a massive bummer to lose some
of these people that we absolutely love to watch. But
I would rather lose them than carry forty people for
you know, ten episodes.
Speaker 5: I also texted you guys about earlier though. The one
thing I'm excited about is to see if we can
set a new record for how quickly we wipe out
Tim's fantasy team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tim, how many of these people are on your
fantasy team?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I haven't even gone. I haven't even looked.
It's probably scary to me.
Speaker 5: If I look, I can tell you at the bottom
three because I did the score. Carlin has two people
in elimination, Wolf and Tim have three.
Speaker 6: I have zero.
Speaker 4: Okay, do you have zero because.
Speaker 6: All of my people, uh didn't finish last.
Speaker 3: Cheater ye cheater. Well that's the episode. I guess the end.
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Speaker 4: All about Tim's dating life.
Speaker 3: That too, dating life, horror movies and Zach's eating habits.
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Speaker 4: Thank you guys.
Speaker 2: We also got a big comment on the Facebook, which
we usually don't read, but it was very much a
like a feedback comment, so Hedric. So, I'm so glad
you guys are back. But I have to admit I
signed up years ago because you used to cover the
old seasons. I even put up with the wives because
it was great to hear people validate my feelings on
how cruel Bananas was on the island, just an example.
I know it would be a lot of work, but
is there any chance of you guys do some more
flashback seasons again? Please? They were awesome. Give me even
more motivation to watch and hear what happened to the
challengers afterward too. Glad your back, guys, Keep up the
amazing work. Love from your number one Aussie fam.
Speaker 3: Oh well thanks. How do they know they are number one? Though?
Have they pulled every person in Australia? I mean maybe
that might not be that might not be true. I
love doing the I actually really like doing the flashback seasons,
but we don't get a break.
Speaker 4: I haven't gotten to do a flashback season with you guys.
I've only gotten to listen to it.
Speaker 3: They're just amazing.
Speaker 5: I was thinking about that earlier, and I know we
all enjoy our long breaks off. So I was like,
I wonder if we could do it in a way
where we get like Carlin to come visit us and
then we just like spend one weekend binging and mass
recording and then like slowly release it over weeks.
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say, Masturbata.
Speaker 4: I'm not coming out for mass recording. Potentially, we used
to do that.
Speaker 3: That's how we used to do the flashbacks. You and
Amanda would come over, we would do six, we'd do
four to six episodes in a row. We would just
like sit at the table and just knock them out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could be I could. I could be down
for something like that, but yeah, we'd have to. We'd
have to plan out a weekend for me to come
down there or something of that sort and be ready
to binge and then record all of them one a
time right after each other.
Speaker 2: Feel like, I feel like we have to watch them before.
Speaker 4: Yes, they would absolutely have. We would all have to
do that as homework. But yeah, I mean being that
we've all got jobs, Tim's got kids, we've all got lives.
We're also trying to do this podcast and watch the
show this season. There's no way that I can add
another hour plus of this podcast on just to recap
an old season as much as as much fun as
an old season could be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree, And if we ever have a break,
I would love to do it. But it's without a break, man,
it's hard to do it. It's hard to think about it.
Speaker 2: He's active any social media.
Speaker 5: Stuff, we do not because my my web browser does
not want to load anything, so I can't look anything up.
Speaker 3: I did see some social media commentary on the challenge.
Some of the challengers are complaining that the order that
they showed the contestants finishing was not accurate. Now, the
first and last was always accurate, but apparently there were
like people in the middle kind of got reshuffled, and
some of the castes complaining that, like that not totally accurate. No,
not really, I mean really, only the first and the
last matter. But somebody I can't remember who, but there.
I think maybe Josh was one of them that said, like, hey,
it said I finished third, but I finished second, or
you know whatever. There's a couple people then.
Speaker 4: I really don't care if it's Josh.
Speaker 3: I think Josh was one of them. There was a
few though that that said that was not you know
that the finishings weren't accurate.
Speaker 4: Oh we've lost Sack.
Speaker 3: We lost Sack.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't care if the people got shuffled around,
that doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like, if it doesn't affect the game,
I don't really care. But they should have the Times,
and I want to see the Times, and it's I
don't know why they don't give us the Times anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be nice to see the Times, but
we've also complained about that for years and I don't
think that's ever coming back. Well, Zach isn't here. Uh,
we do have the fantasy teams over that real quick yep,
all right, Well, since Zach isn't here, we're gonna go
with the host league that's on the app. According to
the app, and this I didn't actually go through and
change the points. I probably could still, but it has
Wolfy in first place.
Speaker 3: Wolfe said, up a bitch.
Speaker 4: Wolfe's in first place with two and thirty nine. I'm
in second place with two hundred and twenty four. Zach
is in third place with two hundred and seven, and
Big Uncle Sweet Tea is in fourth place with two
hundred and one, so there's not a huge spread between
the four of us.
Speaker 3: I can make it.
Speaker 2: When gets Zach gets back and reads his scoring, it'll
be first.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I guarantee it will be last. I just
I know that Zach really loves his scoring. I just
really like being able to see it all in my
hand with all the rest of them, and I like
having all of the other things scored, but not just
the action of the challenge itself, because episodes like this one,
the challenge is a big part of it, but then
we also have, you know, conversations between people. We've had
episodes where it's very drama heavy, and I feel like
that needs to be counted in.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you have stronger feelings. Really, I don't have
strong feelings about it. I'm fine, I'm fine.
Speaker 4: Really. I think it's just because I want to be
able to see it whenever I want to, whenever I
go in and look.
Speaker 3: I see the benefit of that for sure. That is
I did not know how much I would enjoy this
goddamn Fantasy League. I check it and if it's not updated,
like when the episode comes up, it's like I got
a fucking every half hour. I gotta check it now. Yep,
even though I'm losing it, I feel pathetic.
Speaker 4: The questions last week.
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't even answer the questions last week. I
didn't even know what you meant. I had to dig
into the thing to figure out how to answer them.
Now now I know how to do it.
Speaker 2: One of the questions was who went home?
Speaker 4: Yep, so it was no questions were The questions are
always who will have the first confessional of the episode
and who will be eliminated that week? And the elimation
this week didn't actually matter because they weren't here, but
it didn't happen. But the first confessional of the week
was Derek, So, are.
Speaker 6: You guys to hear me now.
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 5: Okay, you guys are like exactly here and I'm sitting
here like I'm here. What do you guys talk about?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh, we know we lost it for a good couple
of minutes.
Speaker 5: Not so yeah, I heard and saw everything you're saying.
I saw Carlin critiquing my amazing scoring.
Speaker 4: I don't like your scoring.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: Onto unless Zach, do you have your scoring of the
private league or of the host league?
Speaker 6: Not around frid of me, but I remember, yes, right now.
After one week.
Speaker 5: I was in first with twenty points, Carlin was in
second with eighteen, and Tim and Wolfer died for third
with seventeen.
Speaker 3: I mean the it kind of represents the the league.
You know. The website one.
Speaker 4: Rights website has wolf be first.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Website has Wolfy first, me second, Zach thirty fourth.
Speaker 3: Okay, So Zach scoring is more weighted on the challenge performances,
not less less like the drama and the back.
Speaker 4: Scoring only is challenge performance. It doesn't take into into
account any of the other things.
Speaker 3: Gotcha with him? All right?
Speaker 4: Public league, the one that everybody actually cares about. You know,
our our previous season winner is whatever Stove is all
the way down at where did I see him twenty
third of thirty seven?
Speaker 3: Suck it? Oh wait, I'm even worse than him. It's
never mind, I.
Speaker 4: Take it back, Sorry, Stove, we just had to call
you out. So everybody still has a chance to kick
his ass this season and get the guest spot for
next season. So first place right now is No Quitters,
which is uh, Genie, I think that's Genie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No Quitters is the other podcast that's the worst
podcast than us.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No Quitters is the podcast that quit like six seasons ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we came back and quit again twice.
Speaker 4: Second place is I Touched Johnny's Banana, and third place
is Death Taxes and Bananas and point values are one
and one thirty seven, so real close to each other,
and the next you know ten teams are pretty close
to that. So there's I mean, it's only the first episode.
We still have quite a bit of ways to go.
Of the hosts, we are in I'm in seventh, Wolfe's
in thirteenth.
Speaker 3: Thirty second, maybe thirty second.
Speaker 4: Yep, Big Uncle Sweet Tea is in thirty second, and
Zach and Bananas is in thirty third.
Speaker 3: Oh, Zach, I'm kicking your ass, dude.
Speaker 4: As Yeah, so we have we have some fun things.
Oh and then we have the other challenge, which is
just the budget League gets. It's just for fun. You
win a Chris Virtual High five if you win this
team win this one, everybody gets to pick. There's monetary
values assigned to all of the players. The challenge Pod
team is in first place, which I think is Zach.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's me, Okay, So Zach is.
Speaker 4: In first place. I'm in second, and T Mobile Sidekicks
is in third, which is Jacqueline.
Speaker 3: I'm in eighth out of nine places on that one.
Speaker 4: Just and are these you're forgot to put any picks in?
You have zero points on this one day?
Speaker 3: These are still open, right, people can join them now
they'll be.
Speaker 4: Joining they'll be open for the whole season.
Speaker 3: Everybody should join them. Everybody should join these leagues. It
is It truly does enhance like the enjoyment of the game.
I didn't think it would, but this is my second
time playing it. The virtual leagues, they're they are actually
really fun. Yeah, they were there yep.
Speaker 4: So go to what is It Real TV Fantasy dot
com and they are both of the challenged.
Speaker 3: Can they go to Challenge Pod?
Speaker 4: Yep. You can go to Challenge Pod and get it
through there. I put two different links, one for each
of the two public leagues. The budget league you're not
actually winning anything exciting, it's just for fun. The other
one is the one that you win a a guest
spot on the on the pod.
Speaker 2: To be fair, that's not anything very exciting.
Speaker 4: Hey, we are totally exciting. Whatever stove can tell you
that we are totally exciting.
Speaker 2: We kept him up.
Speaker 4: He was drinking coffee all night with us for.
Speaker 3: The Bad Influence podcasts.
Speaker 2: M M, all right, are we done?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 2: Everybody heard the challenge dot dot com, join the Facebook group,
the Patreon, the Fantasy League, follow us on Instagram. Uh
and uh for this episode.
Speaker 4: Of challenge has been with you, Carl in San Diego,
Zachue Bananas.
Speaker 2: Zaba Banas, and uh. I didn't care enough to get
a quote, So we're done. And I should probably pull
up the actual outrou.
Speaker 4: That would be helpful.
Speaker 3: I gotta, I gotta quote t JJ. His first quote
to his throwback was, I'm a special Tembacks thirty number