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Speaker 3: My name is Lex ten, hosted producer of the show.
Speaker 3: So glad you could join us for our post WrestleMania
Speaker 3: fallout review blah blah blah, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 3: Episode two sixteen.
Speaker 2: We were called we're calling this one. They loved it,
Speaker 2: they loved it not.
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Speaker 3: me today as always is our wrestling memorabilia collector who
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Speaker 3: looks like he's cursing me. You can follow him at
Speaker 3: Coco collect Chico Nugia, Chico Housen.
Speaker 2: How are you doing?
Speaker 4: How is it going? Yes, this was a good WrestleMania,
Speaker 4: let me tell you. Of course, popular opinion out there
Speaker 4: would have you say that it is It was half
Speaker 4: of a good WrestleMania.
Speaker 2: But I happen to think that both Knights were just fine,
Speaker 2: too great.
Speaker 3: And you know what, there's a lot, yes, I would
Speaker 3: agree that a lot of people out there who have
Speaker 3: been hating on this particular WrestleMania at least the first
Speaker 3: night of WrestleMania versus the second night of WrestleMania. But
Speaker 3: I will also contend as well alongside you Chico, that
Speaker 3: I enjoyed both nights as well. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: I can understand where some of that criticism comes from.
Speaker 2: So you know, let's get right into it, shall we.
Speaker 3: Sure, and for those of you in radio land and
Speaker 3: also on podcast land, and also because we're not putting
Speaker 3: these ones up on YouTube. At the moment she go
Speaker 3: goes wearing his Dan house in You Are Christ shirt
Speaker 3: and yeah, one of those moments again where Dan Housen
Speaker 3: steals the show on night number two thanks to a
Speaker 3: little segment with a little segment with the House of
Speaker 3: WrestleMania one man, the Invisible Man, John Cena he never
Speaker 3: seen seventeen and oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 3: Also later on there, Chico looks like he's holding up something,
Speaker 3: but I can't.
Speaker 2: It looks like I don't know what it is though,
Speaker 2: that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a floating pair of George. Yes, exactly there,
Speaker 3: it is a floating pair of George. I don't know
Speaker 3: why I couldn't. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I could not make that one out. Honestly. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: great radio folks.
Speaker 3: Yes, but you know, hey, lead the mind, that's what it's.
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta describe things. We describe things on
Speaker 3: the air, and we let the people understand that, you
Speaker 3: know what. We couldn't see John Cena, but hey, besaws, Georgs,
Speaker 3: you know what.
Speaker 4: That was one of my favorite segments of the weekend,
Speaker 4: just like you were alluding to. And again some people
Speaker 4: were belly aching about it, like kind of being in
Speaker 4: between the uh what was before it?
Speaker 2: Was it.
Speaker 4: The one of the women's championships or something, the Rhea.
Speaker 2: Ripley defeating Jade Car Gill by pinfall.
Speaker 4: Yeah, between that, between that and the main event of
Speaker 4: Punk Versus Reigns. But of course you gotta have a
Speaker 4: little palette cleanse, and I think it was a really
Speaker 4: good palate cleanser. And honestly, just like maybe one or
Speaker 4: two people out there, I was kind of oddly emotional
Speaker 4: for dan Housen getting his moment at WrestleMania with John Cena.
Speaker 4: Because man, that guy Dan House and I'm speaking of
Speaker 4: has been really paying his dues on the indies for years,
Speaker 4: and he's just supposed to be like a quote unquote
Speaker 4: meme wrestler, right. I mean, that's basically what you know,
Speaker 4: hit his gimmick, I guess was all about for a
Speaker 4: lot of people, but it has entertainment value. And I
Speaker 4: said this just like a few other wise people said,
Speaker 4: you know, right from elimination Chamber, right from the elimination Chamber,
Speaker 4: pl e, from the debut of Dan Housen. Sure, Chicago
Speaker 4: bowed him, but that debut was also brilliant, and then
Speaker 4: I could tell from there that WWE was the right
Speaker 4: place for this guy and that he would be embraced
Speaker 4: by the masses in no time. And sure enough, other
Speaker 4: than the booze in Chicago, because people were somehow expecting
Speaker 4: Chris Jericho to pack himself in a crate for a
Speaker 4: month and think that that would be a good idea.
Speaker 3: The uh, you know, the only person who could do
Speaker 3: because you could you could pack it into a crank
Speaker 3: for a month. There's still actually this two there is
Speaker 3: the gobbledegooker and Dan Housen.
Speaker 4: Yes, but that that comparison is always kind of insulting.
Speaker 4: So I mean that Dan Housen was way beyond that.
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, piece of yeah for sure, piece of
Speaker 4: turkey crap. Anyway, Uh, dan Housen at WrestleMania brought out
Speaker 4: the midgets and before you and social media are gonna
Speaker 4: pour on the hey, just like Michael Cole said on commentary,
Speaker 4: he was told by those very same little people to
Speaker 4: call the midgets. So the midget Housends were there and
Speaker 4: it was fantastic. I was so amused. The mizz was
Speaker 4: the right foil, and so is Kit Wilson.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: So I mean it just went off, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: without without an inadvertent hitch, just deliberate ones.
Speaker 3: Yes exactly, and it's and and it's brilliant.
Speaker 2: What what as you mentioned about.
Speaker 3: The uh, the the hitches, the planned hitches.
Speaker 2: It broke, Sena Sina.
Speaker 3: I could tell and see that John Cena was trying
Speaker 3: to hold it together and trying to keep that straight
Speaker 3: face and whatever like that and like you know, be
Speaker 3: all host of WrestleMania and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: But he saw the he saw the planned hitches that were.
Speaker 3: Happening, and he needed he needed a few seconds to
Speaker 3: compose himself again. And that's how you know you got
Speaker 3: you You were over at least with the locker room,
Speaker 3: because you know John Cena, he can be straight faced
Speaker 3: with the rest of them, with the.
Speaker 2: Best of them.
Speaker 4: And come on, you cannot get any better than John
Speaker 4: Cena raising your hand at your first WrestleMania appearance.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, exactly.
Speaker 4: And he got his blimp Housen you know his list
Speaker 4: of demand Housens. You know, he even got to ride
Speaker 4: there the real good year blimp earlier.
Speaker 2: In the week that he got his triple H pointing picture. Yep.
Speaker 4: I mean all he needs is a personal assistant and
Speaker 4: a camera boy, like you know whatever whatever else is
Speaker 4: on that list. But dang, Dan Housen has been doing
Speaker 4: so good and he even won his debut match. I mean,
Speaker 4: what else can you ask for? So Dan Housen, I'm
Speaker 4: so proud of him. Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not related to him at all, nor
Speaker 2: do I have any ties to him, but somehow I'm
Speaker 2: just proud of him.
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, you know what wrestling community, it's where
Speaker 3: we can be a huge bunch around the world, but
Speaker 3: we're also it's a small world of wrestlers in the
Speaker 3: community and UH and because and when you start getting
Speaker 3: involved in the UH in the independent wrestling community, you
Speaker 3: find that you have people that are like you know,
Speaker 3: you can play.
Speaker 2: Six degrees of separation or six.
Speaker 3: Degrees of Kevin Bacon in the community and you can
Speaker 3: find it You're only what two degrees away from It's
Speaker 3: like Dwayn Johnson or something like that. Right, So, because
Speaker 3: of the affiliation with the guys in the industry, in
Speaker 3: the small world that it is, including and I'm we're
Speaker 3: gonna get to WrestleMania in a second.
Speaker 2: But UH, I want to commend UH.
Speaker 3: I want to commend the the wrestlers in UH in
Speaker 3: the professional wrestling stable Monopos. It is a stable of
Speaker 3: four wrestlers in the filip Filipino Canadian wrestlers UH and
Speaker 3: that consists of Kingsley, UH, Ticket Easy, Joey, Teyo, Dakila
Speaker 3: and Kuya Cole who all were able to be on
Speaker 3: shows in Las Vegas in the in in the Indies
Speaker 3: as well. Congratulations to guys like UH from Championship Sorry
Speaker 3: c c W Champion Classic Championship Wrestling, the promoter Mike Clark,
Speaker 3: who was one of the referees alongside the full Donovan
Speaker 3: for Sandman's final match in Las Vegas as well on.
Speaker 2: One of those in one of those indies indies shows.
Speaker 4: So speaking of invisible Men, right, I think it was
Speaker 4: Sandman versus the Invisible Men. Yes, it was, That's exactly
Speaker 4: what it was. And didn't Mick Foley show up to
Speaker 4: help Sandman to be to beat the Invisible Man?
Speaker 2: I think so?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there're thirty alongside Donovan and Mike Clark. There
Speaker 3: were like twenty eight other referees in that match as
Speaker 3: well too, counting the one, two three for the Sandman.
Speaker 4: Oh, good for him, good for all of them. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that was that's great. And the Sandman goes off into
Speaker 4: the sunset. You know, even the Invisible Man couldn't defeat him, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: And you know what though that and you know what,
Speaker 2: that's the That's the.
Speaker 3: Beauty about the h the independent wrestling scene is that
Speaker 3: you get these things that you don't usually get from
Speaker 3: from shows that need to be polished like a WWE,
Speaker 3: like an ae W, even though a w is like
Speaker 3: in D's with a budget it is, it still needs
Speaker 3: to have some sort of like you know, some guard
Speaker 3: rails in terms of that, in terms of that, like
Speaker 3: you know, good guardrails obviously, but at the same time,
Speaker 3: he's like, you not gonna find an invisible.
Speaker 2: Man match in a w or in w w WE,
Speaker 2: not this day.
Speaker 3: And age, so so so you know, and that's where,
Speaker 3: like you know, you get people making connections with each
Speaker 3: other that eventually get you onto the shows that I believe.
Speaker 3: I believe a couple of the Ontario wrestlers as well.
Speaker 3: I think maybe even Donovan got on.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Don't quote me on this, but I think full Donovan
Speaker 3: was actually one of the people that accompanied Dominic Mysterio
Speaker 3: to the ring on Night two in his match against
Speaker 3: Finn Balor, who uh the full Donovan. I think it's
Speaker 3: the Full Donovan. But I know that there were some
Speaker 3: Ontario wrestlers involved in uh in in uh in the
Speaker 3: Dominic Mysterio entrance. I have no idea, but good for him, yeah,
Speaker 3: uh but uh uh but but yeah, I mean like
Speaker 3: it's that that that's the reason why you got to
Speaker 3: go and support your local independent wrestling shows, including by
Speaker 3: the way, including Oshawa wrestling. I was actually on the
Speaker 3: Friday night UH during during SmackDown and and UH before
Speaker 3: w W Hall of Fame, I was actually calling Oshawa
Speaker 3: Wrestling's Moose Lodge Mania five over at the Moose Lodge
Speaker 3: in Oshawa. Great night of wrestling, great amazing crowd. We
Speaker 3: sold out, We had a standing room only and UH
Speaker 3: and it was just a really really fun night of wrestling.
Speaker 3: If you want to go and experience wrestling for and
Speaker 3: you don't want to break the bank, you could take
Speaker 3: the entire family.
Speaker 2: And still have some great action.
Speaker 3: Again, go to your local Ontario independent wrestling UH. You
Speaker 3: can get in Mississauga. Battle Arts is probably one of
Speaker 3: the best places to go. Also in Oshawa, you've got
Speaker 3: all the different promotions from UH, from UH, from Oshawa
Speaker 3: Wrestling and Great Canadian Wrestling and like UH so to
Speaker 3: support that because hey, there those people could be the
Speaker 3: next ww superstar then you and you got to see
Speaker 3: them right in front of your faces for cheap two anyway,
Speaker 3: Mike one of WrestleMania. In WrestleMania, we had seven matches
Speaker 3: to UH to UH to go for or to take
Speaker 3: in rather and we had we'll go around the well,
Speaker 3: I'll just run down the results on the card here
Speaker 3: of these seven matches that were aired, and then we'll
Speaker 3: talk about the we'll talk about the reception of Night
Speaker 3: number one. We'll debate things a little bit as well.
Speaker 3: But first of all, here are the results. Match number one,
Speaker 3: the USO's Jimmy and Jay and l A Night Yeah
Speaker 3: defeat the Vision Logan Paul and Austin Theory with ICE
Speaker 3: Show Speed by pinfall seven minute and eight second match,
Speaker 3: and it resulted with the Vision turning on Ice Show
Speaker 3: Speed and I Show Speed putting Logan Paul through the
Speaker 3: announced table by going shame man styles sort of.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, a very pretty I Show Speed.
Speaker 2: What do you call it? Splash? Yes, I show Splash.
Speaker 4: I think Michael Cole called it, and then Wade Barrett
Speaker 4: followed up and called it full Speed or.
Speaker 2: Something like that. So yeah, a lot of witty little things,
Speaker 2: but you know what for a cute little opener that
Speaker 2: would attract new eyes to the product because of people
Speaker 2: like Logan Paul and I Show Speed being involved.
Speaker 4: Pretty good way to start it off. I think not
Speaker 4: as hot as Night too. We'll get the Night too,
Speaker 4: but I mean decent way to start off Night one.
Speaker 4: It's fine, It was okay, and I got to come in.
Speaker 4: I show speedcause he had another one of these celebrities
Speaker 4: that has come in. And it shows that he's doing
Speaker 4: the work to not just make it look like some
Speaker 4: you know, like they didn't want to try hard because
Speaker 4: it's just wrestling or something. No, I show speed. He
Speaker 4: gave it a good go. It looked like he learned
Speaker 4: how to bump properly. It looked like he knew how
Speaker 4: to do that that jumping splash from the top turn
Speaker 4: buckle onto the announced desk. So it was it was
Speaker 4: well executed. It was fine, it was good.
Speaker 3: And and you know what, I know people on the
Speaker 3: internet as wealthy have been debating the what TKO said earlier,
Speaker 3: that that more celebrities could be involved in WrestleManias in
Speaker 3: the future. If now here's the thing for me, at least,
Speaker 3: if they show that they're like a bad Bunny or
Speaker 3: an Ice show Speed or a Logan Paul, even Jelly Roll. Right,
Speaker 3: if you can see the commitment to the excellence and
Speaker 3: to getting yourself to a point where you can hang
Speaker 3: with the big boys, even just for a few minutes, right,
Speaker 3: then you know what the then I would, I would
Speaker 3: be okay with that. I don't want celebrities to take
Speaker 3: you over the entire night, but at least if they
Speaker 3: put in the work and the and the wrestlers are
Speaker 3: good because it'll help them get over as well and
Speaker 3: put more eyes upon their work.
Speaker 2: I'm for that. Yeah, I'm okay with it too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you're saying, the caution there is to not
Speaker 4: let it overrun everything, because of course there's plenty of
Speaker 4: actual WWE contract and full time talent that do you
Speaker 4: need an opportunity to show off their wares. However, that's
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's just more money, exactly, So how
Speaker 4: can you say no to that?
Speaker 3: Exactly? Exactly exactly. And that's the end of the day.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, it is about money.
Speaker 3: It is about the money you want to you're working
Speaker 3: in this business. You want to get to WWE because
Speaker 3: you want to make money. Guess what, on the independent circles,
Speaker 3: not much money out there, if at all, that you'll
Speaker 3: be making. But you know you'll still get paid from
Speaker 3: the for wrestling matches and everything too, So that's cool.
Speaker 3: But you want to get to WWE because that is
Speaker 3: life changing money for you.
Speaker 4: Right there exactly, and you have to deal with the
Speaker 4: consequences of being in a big corporation like that, right.
Speaker 4: I mean, I will say that TKO. Maybe the perception
Speaker 4: is there's overreach. I do maybe feel that because as
Speaker 4: we'll get to the main event of Night one, at
Speaker 4: some point, the road to it was really bumpy and
Speaker 4: could have done better without certain ingredients.
Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 3: M Jacob Fatuo defeating Drew McIntyre bat pinfall in an
Speaker 3: unsanctioned match. I enjoyed the match personally. It took fourteen
Speaker 3: minutes and nine seconds. But at the same time, for
Speaker 3: an unsanctioned match, I know that there are a lot
Speaker 3: of people that wanted to see more I guess guts, score,
Speaker 3: violence whatever like that, uh uh and or youah or
Speaker 3: blood and guts maybe, but but you want they wanted to.
Speaker 3: When you put something as an unsanctioned match, you kind
Speaker 3: of expect a little bit more intensity. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, I think that because Jacob Fatu is just
Speaker 3: so electric himself that it and also Drew McIntyre is
Speaker 3: they work so well together that even if it wasn't,
Speaker 3: as you know, balls of the walls, you know, the bloody,
Speaker 3: gutsy or whatever like that.
Speaker 2: It still worked for me. Yeah, it was still very good.
Speaker 4: I would have wanted more, like going around the arena,
Speaker 4: you know, like it wasn't a false count anywhere match,
Speaker 4: but an unsanctioned match.
Speaker 2: I think they could have pushed the envelope more. So
Speaker 2: I would have I would have maybe wanted another five minutes,
Speaker 2: you know, like go go around the arena a little
Speaker 2: bit more. But for what we got, honestly very good.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. M hm.
Speaker 3: Britty Bella and Page become the new WWE Women's Tag
Speaker 3: Team Champions, and of course the were the one name
Speaker 3: that I sort of like glossed over. Just now, Page
Speaker 3: returns to the WWE, taking over for Niki Bella who's
Speaker 3: injured still and what a moment, What a moment for
Speaker 3: U Sirea bevis for Page to return and you know,
Speaker 3: come back to you know, her house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she's home. So I'm very very happy.
Speaker 4: This is another one that got me emotional because just
Speaker 4: following Page's story from social media, uh you know, just
Speaker 4: like through the years and struggling to get cleared and everything,
Speaker 4: she actually just posted. So we're recording this on on
Speaker 4: Tuesday evening. She posted earlier on Tuesday that you know,
Speaker 4: a video of her getting cleared and her reaction to it,
Speaker 4: and she was emotional and crying, and the ww trainers there,
Speaker 4: you know, congratulating her kind of thing for getting cleared
Speaker 4: for WWE Action because Page never thought that she would
Speaker 4: be cleared just based on how everything went down. So I'm,
Speaker 4: you know, a fan of hers from from over the years,
Speaker 4: and I was hoping for her to do well in
Speaker 4: AEW and I think according to her, she did have
Speaker 4: fun in AEW with her stint there, but I think
Speaker 4: I think the goal was always to come back eventually
Speaker 4: for her, So she achieved that goal.
Speaker 2: And honestly, she looks great. You know, she looks like
Speaker 2: she really.
Speaker 4: Got tone in the right ways, Like she looks like
Speaker 4: a refined version of what she was in WWE before.
Speaker 4: It looks like she is ready to go, and it
Speaker 4: looks like she held off on coming back until she
Speaker 4: was absolutely ready to go. She looks great. I am
Speaker 4: looking forward to whatever run this is for however long
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 2: And to add on to.
Speaker 4: The to the hype around this match, I think it
Speaker 4: was after the match backstage, there was a picture of
Speaker 4: the Bella twins and Page and aj Lee posing together
Speaker 4: is probably in Gorilla holding up the four side as
Speaker 4: in the four horse Woman sign, and they kind of
Speaker 4: designated themselves or maybe Nikki did or something as the
Speaker 4: original four Horsewomen.
Speaker 2: And now I want.
Speaker 4: To see Sasha Banks come back to the company and
Speaker 4: the four Horsewomen, the actual four horse Women of the
Speaker 4: women's evolution, you know, having a war Games match against
Speaker 4: you know, Nikki and Brie and Page and a J.
Speaker 2: I would pay to see that. That would be awesome.
Speaker 4: I hope it happens at some point, whether it's this
Speaker 4: year or next year, I wouldn't mind. Yeah, those are
Speaker 4: all great names.
Speaker 3: To have a big dust up together, definitely, And congratulations
Speaker 3: to Page. You know what, that's wall because as opposed
Speaker 3: to Edge qu you know, who had to retire like
Speaker 3: in his what his mid thirties, I think it was
Speaker 3: when he was when he had to.
Speaker 2: Retire the first time.
Speaker 3: Paige she had to she had to retire because of
Speaker 3: her neck injury, very very early on in her career.
Speaker 3: But that also works out in her favor because she's
Speaker 3: still she's only thirty three years old, that's right.
Speaker 4: She is younger than a lot of the the upper
Speaker 4: tier women's talent in WW.
Speaker 3: Right now, and she is considered one of the veterans
Speaker 3: at thirty three. So it's it's so she has you know, health,
Speaker 3: you know, making sure that her health stays you know.
Speaker 2: I'll be up and up and everything. Uh, she still
Speaker 2: has a long way to go.
Speaker 3: Uh. Considered it again, if her health holds up and
Speaker 3: everything and and and and the surgery in her neck,
Speaker 3: uh is, you know, it's still going to be okay.
Speaker 3: But again, if she still has potentially a very long
Speaker 3: career ahead of her, and it is, uh, and and
Speaker 3: it's going to be a joy to see her rise
Speaker 3: up the ranks again, uh and compete with some of
Speaker 3: the newer talent out there.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Like maybe e Lyra Valkyria would be fun, could be
Speaker 3: a fun match to be that that's good for the
Speaker 3: Tiffany Stratton in her.
Speaker 2: I think they could actually do a pretty a pretty
Speaker 2: good job as well. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4: Now this will challenge a lot of the women to
Speaker 4: learn how to have a good psychological wrestling match that
Speaker 4: doesn't require all sorts of jumping around. Because the names
Speaker 4: you mentioned, like Lyra is a you know, I mean
Speaker 4: she's good on the mat, but also she has like
Speaker 4: a top top row move or two I think, and
Speaker 4: definitely Tiffany's finisher is the pme.
Speaker 2: So as long as they don't.
Speaker 4: Overdo the flippy stuff, you know, because then Soirea sorry,
Speaker 4: Page cannot really do as much of the high flying
Speaker 4: stuff that you know, like she only could do a
Speaker 4: little bit of it in the first place because that's
Speaker 4: not her style. But now even more, she's got to
Speaker 4: work smarter, not harder, and so this will challenge the
Speaker 4: women that are there too to be versatile with their
Speaker 4: mat skills now too. So that's and and it should
Speaker 4: go that way because again that's how you achieve longevity
Speaker 4: and a lot of the best pro wrestling matches, as
Speaker 4: we will eventually talk about with a nine two main event,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of in ring psychology.
Speaker 2: That doesn't need, you know, all the speedy high fly
Speaker 2: stuff exactly.
Speaker 3: And you know what, before we go to break one
Speaker 3: of those wrestlers that also is considered a veteran but
Speaker 3: still very young as well too, Live Morgan. She's actually
Speaker 3: two years younger than Page, So so I mean there's
Speaker 3: the younger or older older this are younger, Live Morgan
Speaker 3: is thirty one.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, yeah interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so so I mean, like, you know, like she's
Speaker 3: also one of those wrestlers who will talk about after
Speaker 3: the break that you know, have served many years of
Speaker 3: the WWE already and considered one of the vets and
Speaker 3: one of this generation, but still has many many years
Speaker 3: of wrestley left in her.
Speaker 2: If health holds up and everything.
Speaker 3: But we will talk about Live Morgan and the rest
Speaker 3: of night one when we come back from the break
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Speaker 3: Housen uh looking like doing his best Dan Housen impression
Speaker 3: at the moment, eyes wide open and cursing me through
Speaker 3: the airwaves at the moment, and if you don't listen
Speaker 3: to him, then you are cursed.
Speaker 2: That's right, man, What a good weekend, all right? That one.
Speaker 2: Let's roll through a baby.
Speaker 3: Yep, Becky Lynch defeating aj Libit pinfall eight minutes and
Speaker 3: fifteen seconds and Becky becomes the WWE Women's Intercotton Champion again.
Speaker 2: Decent match and everything.
Speaker 3: I wish they could have gone a little bit longer,
Speaker 3: and I think that was one of the one of
Speaker 3: the criticisms that people had is that we had a
Speaker 3: lot of matches that were under ten minutes. It was
Speaker 3: the USO's, the the USO's match, the Becky Lynch match
Speaker 3: Live Morgan and Stephanie Vacare, which was a Women's World
Speaker 3: Championship match live, Morgan taking the taking the championship in
Speaker 3: six minutes and fifty one seconds only.
Speaker 4: So I didn't realize those matches were that short. So okay,
Speaker 4: people have a valid argument there when the matches are
Speaker 4: that short, even though I still enjoyed them, mind you,
Speaker 4: but the ads were unbearably long. Those were long ad breaks, I.
Speaker 2: Will give people that.
Speaker 4: But I still enjoyed the night, you know, like people
Speaker 4: were talking about it being a disaster and whatever. And
Speaker 4: you know, again, the ads are too much. That's that's
Speaker 4: that's a valid complaint. But I got a solution for
Speaker 4: that on the Netflix end of it for all of
Speaker 4: us internationally. Just tune in later and then you can
Speaker 4: scan through all of them like I did, or we
Speaker 4: did rather well.
Speaker 2: Yes, also because I also got to your place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly an hour and fifteen minutes, like after bell
Speaker 3: time at six o'clock, So we essentially.
Speaker 2: Skipped almost all the ad breaks. Yeah, and it was
Speaker 2: and it felt.
Speaker 3: You know, I wasn't I I because you skipped the
Speaker 3: ad breaks and everything. It was fine, honestly. Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 2: I guess we were okay that way. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I guess now you know there are nights
Speaker 4: of resume in that will overcome even the long ad
Speaker 4: breaks a night two which we'll get to at some point.
Speaker 3: Yes, Gunther defeating Seth Rollins by submission, but Cody roadse
Speaker 3: defeating Randy Orton and becoming again the undisputed WWWE champion,
Speaker 3: so I'm sorry, retaining his undisputed w W championship against
Speaker 3: Day against the Randy Orton that was out for blood
Speaker 3: and still got it to do it, yep, And so yeah,
Speaker 3: both of the Yeah, yeah, they all ended up bloody
Speaker 3: and everything, and honestly, on honestly it was I again,
Speaker 3: I enjoyed the match. I didn't even mind Pat McAfee
Speaker 3: in his involvement in it either, even though a lot
Speaker 3: of people say that he yes, and I agree with
Speaker 3: a lot of people out there who say that he
Speaker 3: wasn't necessary, uh, in order to make that storyline work,
Speaker 3: And it was just a U and it was just
Speaker 3: an add on, uh, because from you know, Aria Manuel
Speaker 3: or something like that. But at the same time, it
Speaker 3: didn't take away Pat McAfee being there for me, at least,
Speaker 3: they didn't take away from my enjoyment of what was
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 2: Now, I do understand the frustration. Like I said, I
Speaker 2: do agree with you and everybody else that the addition
Speaker 2: of Pat McAfee felt forced and like shoehorned in.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: It really felt like corporate meddling, you know. So I
Speaker 4: believe that part of the rumors to be true, but
Speaker 4: we'll never know unless Unreal tells us, and even then
Speaker 4: we don't really know.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: You could tell that they did a creative pivot by
Speaker 4: having McAfee eliminated so early, m you know, like he well,
Speaker 4: not completely eliminated as we saw later on, but still
Speaker 4: eliminated from like most of the match. So all this
Speaker 4: big talk about changing wrestling, saving the business, you know,
Speaker 4: all of that stuff, and none of it was to
Speaker 4: go any further than WrestleMania Night one. Son in that sense,
Speaker 4: you know, I thought, maybe, okay, yeah, they shoehorned it
Speaker 4: and everything, But to me, killing it that quick was
Speaker 4: a waste. You now wasted our time and you killed
Speaker 4: it so you didn't even believe enough in your own
Speaker 4: bad choice to continue with it. So in that way,
Speaker 4: I am sharing some of the frustration. But even with
Speaker 4: the wonky booking and it took different routes, let me
Speaker 4: tell you unexpected. In my opinion, I enjoyed where we landed.
Speaker 4: You know, Cody, you could tell this was an evolved
Speaker 4: version of Cody. You could tell because you know, the
Speaker 4: last couple of years as a good guy, he was
Speaker 4: struggling on whether or not he should, you know, take
Speaker 4: the extra punch, or take that opportunity that presented itself,
Speaker 4: or take the low blow, you know, or take the
Speaker 4: belt shot. But it looked to me like part of
Speaker 4: the story told during the main event of Night one
Speaker 4: was Cody learned from all of that and he finally
Speaker 4: did whatever it took while still being a good guy,
Speaker 4: mind you, which is hard.
Speaker 2: To pull off.
Speaker 4: He took he did whatever it took to retain his championship,
Speaker 4: and Randy wasn't actually ready for it.
Speaker 2: Mm exactly.
Speaker 3: And the story and you see that story is actually,
Speaker 3: uh something that really worked very well because you know,
Speaker 3: when you have the viper Randy Orton, who has is
Speaker 3: not just oh nine viper but every part of Randy
Speaker 3: Orton since then, and he doesn't see what Cody Rose
Speaker 3: is able is actually capable of compelling himself.
Speaker 4: Yes, And it also looked like they did pivot with
Speaker 4: a Pat mcavee story and everything, so it looked like
Speaker 4: finally Randy saw the mistake that he made in in
Speaker 4: calling in Pat in the first place. Of course, he
Speaker 4: he got elbowed through the table by a jelly roll,
Speaker 4: and then later he came back with an outdated referee
Speaker 4: shirt by now in ww standards and a neck brace,
Speaker 4: you know, because you know he had to sell his
Speaker 4: encounter a jelly roll earlier. But he could run perfectly fine, apparently,
Speaker 4: so we had Pat in there, and then Randy even
Speaker 4: RKO the guy when he couldn't make the count. So
Speaker 4: I guess it was supposed to be a fast count
Speaker 4: rig right, but it didn't work. He Nick Patrick did,
Speaker 4: so you know, he got an RKO for his troubles
Speaker 4: and you know out out the door did that partnership go.
Speaker 4: And then at the end of course, when Randy was
Speaker 4: not successful, you know, he finally more fully gave into
Speaker 4: the voices in his head and brought back the punt
Speaker 4: to an already bloody Cody Rhodes. So to me, this
Speaker 4: is just an adjustment to continue the story, possibly until
Speaker 4: Summer Slam, or at least Backlatch. I think that's where
Speaker 4: we're going with this, because of course Randy left Cody unconscious,
Speaker 4: bloody and his eyeshut while Randy raised the ww Championship belt.
Speaker 4: So I don't think this is over. They did not
Speaker 4: mention anything about it on RAW, so I guess, but
Speaker 4: they're SmackDown guys, so I wasn't expecting it on Raw
Speaker 4: at all, even though Cody popped out there on RAW.
Speaker 4: But I still like by the end of the night,
Speaker 4: one main event I liked where we landed.
Speaker 2: It's fine. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing is that, like you know, you
Speaker 3: can tell and you can say that uh, you know,
Speaker 3: because a lot of people panned Night two of last
Speaker 3: year's WrestleMania forty one, especially because of you know, the
Speaker 3: lack of presence from one Dwayne Johnson and uh uh
Speaker 3: and and and all that to you know, really solidify
Speaker 3: that he'll turn from John Cena.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: But uh and but but uh we'll get into that
Speaker 3: a little bit later. But I but but but I
Speaker 3: liked how it uh started out and and and uh
Speaker 3: slowly rose to a to a point where you know,
Speaker 3: we're where you can just pick up from there and
Speaker 3: build on that for Night number two, which I think
Speaker 3: uh a lot of people have been saying that was
Speaker 3: obviously the better night of WrestleMania on the Sunday.
Speaker 2: We will get into that after we come back from the.
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Speaker 3: And we are going to be going into night number
Speaker 3: two WrestleMania Sunday, April the nineteenth in Las Vegas, starting
Speaker 3: off with Obafemi defeating brock Lessner in a four minute
Speaker 3: and forty six minute match.
Speaker 2: Yeah, four minute and forty six second match.
Speaker 3: Rather, we had Penta defeating javonn Evans, Dragon Ly j McDonald,
Speaker 3: rus seven raymis Stereo retrieving the WWE Intercontinental Championship in
Speaker 3: a six pack ladder match that was fifteen minutes and
Speaker 3: eight seconds, Trick Williams with Lil Yachti defeating Sam He's
Speaker 3: In by pinfall seven minutes and seven seconds, the Demon
Speaker 3: Fittenballer defeating Dominic the Stereo by pinfall in the Street
Speaker 3: Fight ten minutes and twenty seven seconds, Riot Ripley defeating
Speaker 3: Jade Cargill by pinfall, Women's Champ WWA Women's Championship match,
Speaker 3: Riya Ripley a new Champ ten minutes and eight seconds,
Speaker 3: and Roman Rains defeating CM Punk by pinfall. Thirty three
Speaker 3: minutes and fifty six seconds was the time of the match.
Speaker 3: Your New World Have You eight Champion. We acknowledge the
Speaker 3: Tribal Chief Robin Rains, who came out to his original
Speaker 3: Tribal Chief theme song Beauty Full. And that was a
Speaker 3: night as well that I spent at Real Sports Bar
Speaker 3: and Grill at their Wrestlemingia watch party, which is a
Speaker 3: fine experience overall, and when I do it again, probably
Speaker 3: I would say it was a good night.
Speaker 2: I got some pretty good march too.
Speaker 3: I got a I got one of those WWE Toronto
Speaker 3: Raptors Luchador and.
Speaker 2: I've got one.
Speaker 3: And and they gave a custom shirt as well to
Speaker 3: WrestleMania forty two Vegas custom shirt with with with with
Speaker 3: their own custom logo because they actually had to see
Speaker 3: a tower on it and everything. So and that said
Speaker 3: WrestleMania to Watch party at Real Sports Bar and Grill.
Speaker 2: So hey, you know what the twenty five the twenty
Speaker 2: five dollars cover charge was for shirt. I'm good for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, WrestleMania to Watch party. So I guess you took
Speaker 4: a time travel WrestleMania forty two. Yes, I see, I see. Okay,
Speaker 4: all right, because you would have been a lot more
Speaker 4: bored if you want to watch that WrestleMania over there anyways.
Speaker 4: So of course, if we're talking night too, you cannot
Speaker 4: gloss over the opening match.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Holy moly.
Speaker 4: I will say the one criticism that I have of
Speaker 4: that match is one that I made before. I wish
Speaker 4: that Oba's entrance would be in a stadium that could
Speaker 4: get real dark, because I.
Speaker 3: Think it's more effective. However, camera Jill had the mystique
Speaker 3: camera angles and everything, so hey, you know what, it's
Speaker 3: all good?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, no, it could have been better, but
Speaker 4: you can't control that cause this nature and that stadium
Speaker 4: had transparent walls and stuff, so we were not we
Speaker 4: were never going to get the full effect and I
Speaker 4: got over that anyways. Plus the match itself was exactly
Speaker 4: what it needed to be a vehicle to bring mister
Speaker 4: Obafemi to the main roster in the biggest of ways.
Speaker 4: But of course the content of the match and you know,
Speaker 4: Oba hitting his fall from grace, finisher, set out, pump look,
Speaker 4: pop up, set out, power bomb to brock Lesnar was
Speaker 4: not the end of it. The one two three happened
Speaker 4: Oba for the wind like we predicted and wanted and got.
Speaker 4: But what happened after.
Speaker 3: Brock Lesner showed that he was uh calling it a career,
Speaker 3: took off his his his wrestling boots and his wrestling
Speaker 3: gloves and laid them out in the ring, and Paul
Speaker 3: Hayman literally was like Paul him and you know, you
Speaker 3: don't see him get emotional a lot, but when he does,
Speaker 3: you can really feel it.
Speaker 2: And the same with brock dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, for sure, sorry, Paul, Yeah,
Speaker 3: of course brock Lessner himself.
Speaker 2: He was crying in the ring. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: there's no crying in baseball.
Speaker 4: This is a baseball Yeah, that's what I thought in
Speaker 4: my head. I'm like, is he crying? Is he crying?
Speaker 4: There's no crying in baseball? Of course. Reference to a
Speaker 4: League of the Row and Tom Hanks for the kids
Speaker 4: who don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: So great movie, by the way, it was.
Speaker 4: Speaking of great, that was a great opener I think
Speaker 4: an all time great opener for WrestleMania. Man, it was
Speaker 4: really good. Now, mind you, it was short, but that's
Speaker 4: what it needed to be. It needed to be a win,
Speaker 4: a definitive win with a pinfall for Obafemi. And so,
Speaker 4: just like he said on Monday Night Raw and is
Speaker 4: very simple but intim midating promo in a suit on
Speaker 4: Monday the Raw after WrestleMania, the Ruler has arrived.
Speaker 2: M has Brock retired. I think he has.
Speaker 4: I think I think him doing the the X with
Speaker 4: his arms when he did the retirement right before that,
Speaker 4: Big Hug with Paul Hayman means that he feels that
Speaker 4: it's real and that's it. And they didn't address it
Speaker 4: with Gunther on camera on Monday Night Raw. They didn't
Speaker 4: address it at all. So I think this possibly could
Speaker 4: actually be it for Brock and why not at the
Speaker 4: biggest stage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and did it the right way, putting over
Speaker 3: a young new talent that is going to make a
Speaker 3: lot of waves on the main roster once he gets going.
Speaker 2: And you know what, you know people have done that.
Speaker 3: The Rock did that for Brock back on SummerSlam, and
Speaker 3: the under Taker did that for Brock.
Speaker 4: Goodness sake, let's not dwell on that too much. But yes,
Speaker 4: they did it for broadcast.
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't mean I don't mean twenty sixty,
Speaker 3: I mean back in the roofless aggression era.
Speaker 2: Nah, yes, of course.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so i'd like to because we're running out
Speaker 3: of time over here. We only have about ten minutes
Speaker 3: left with airtime over here. Uh, but I would I
Speaker 3: want to get to the demon finn Balor and that
Speaker 3: dominic mysterio and the fact that the Finn Balor looked
Speaker 3: absolutely stellar that night as the demon, and you.
Speaker 2: Know, kudos to the streamer cleanup crew. Oh that was quick.
Speaker 2: I can't believe how quick they did that. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: it's good.
Speaker 4: Like look when you dress up Finn and demon gear
Speaker 4: and it's some against a character like Dominic Mysterio, Finn
Speaker 4: Baler is gonna win.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing you want to that's the thing
Speaker 3: you want to see Dominic Mysterio. Get A asked, well,
Speaker 3: you want to see the demon actually, like you know,
Speaker 3: overcome uh Finn Balor and you know take it to
Speaker 3: that next level, you don't you and you want to
Speaker 3: see uh just you you you want to see just
Speaker 3: there's just someone getting just just getting this not checked
Speaker 3: out of them and everything. And that's what we got.
Speaker 3: And it was fine. I was good and I enjoyed that.
Speaker 3: Uh Ria Ripley and Jade Cargill was I mean again,
Speaker 3: good match and everything. It's just that it was a
Speaker 3: little I just expected. I expected rita win. I expected
Speaker 3: rita win. Jade wasn't exactly I instilled, not sold completely
Speaker 3: on Jade Cargill.
Speaker 2: Uh but uh I I but I don't.
Speaker 3: Know what you can do with Jade Cargill to make
Speaker 3: her uh more interesting in this at this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now you know what the Jade experiment was okay
Speaker 4: at times, but yeah, it was time to be thrown
Speaker 4: her for sure. So the right person got that title.
Speaker 4: Uh we'll see what uh Rhea Ripley does with it.
Speaker 4: But I'm sure, like she has been for the past
Speaker 4: few years, gonna You're gonna be a big, big, big
Speaker 4: star mm hmm. And we have the main event to
Speaker 4: talk about Roman Reigns before we go there. Man, you
Speaker 4: gotta you gotta give Trick Williams his due though, oh
Speaker 4: just quickly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well Trick Williams again uh you know, defeating
Speaker 3: Sammy's ain United States.
Speaker 2: Champion uh and uh you know, and.
Speaker 3: Again another one of those good young superstars that are
Speaker 3: going to uh dominate this roster in years to come.
Speaker 3: Uh and a good start again by by by getting
Speaker 3: to win over Sammy's ainu which also sets him up
Speaker 3: for his own little storyline to get himself from the
Speaker 3: bottom going to the top possibly and we'll see how
Speaker 3: that goes. But I do want to go, but but
Speaker 3: we do need to talk about Roman rains and see
Speaker 3: him punk because uh that because so good. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was very uh, very very good match to end the
Speaker 3: weekend and and everything. It was interesting to hear from
Speaker 3: actually one wrestling fan that I ran into at the
Speaker 3: local mall near my place and he's and that he
Speaker 3: didn't enjoy WrestleMania this weekend. He thought he didn't like
Speaker 3: the way that Triple H was taking the direction of
Speaker 3: the company. He was more he liked the Attitude era
Speaker 3: style of booking and everything.
Speaker 2: But I had to disagree. I have to disagree, but
Speaker 2: I did a big But the thing is, it's like
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: The story of Roman reigns and see him punk over
Speaker 3: the last few weeks have been just the easiest, simplest story,
Speaker 3: just a little bit more refined by years and years
Speaker 3: of storytelling by WWE and great character work between the
Speaker 3: two of them and the history that they have within
Speaker 3: each themselves.
Speaker 2: In each other. It's two guys who hated.
Speaker 3: The hell out of each other, and there was a
Speaker 3: title on the line, let's go and kick each other,
Speaker 3: but in order to and just rock the house that way,
Speaker 3: and that's what they did. They hated each other and
Speaker 3: they just wanted to kick each the aasses.
Speaker 4: Now, the one criticism I will have about this is
Speaker 4: they kind of threw out the credibility of the ref.
Speaker 4: Pretty early on, Roman Reigns blatantly used the ring steps
Speaker 4: while the ref was looking right at them, and the
Speaker 4: countouts I guess, just got thrown out the window. They
Speaker 4: might as well have announced this as a no DQ match.
Speaker 4: I would have been fine with that, but it evened
Speaker 4: out throughout the match because both guys resorted to some
Speaker 4: dirty tactics, and even that didn't really bother me because overall,
Speaker 4: just the drama, the high stakes, you know, the moves
Speaker 4: at the right time, you know, the crescendo at the
Speaker 4: right time, and I think the right result for the
Speaker 4: next little while's worth of stories happened at the end,
Speaker 4: and so Punk versus Rains. Some people touted it as
Speaker 4: the best restle Mania match since Taker HBK One at
Speaker 4: WrestleMania twenty five Big praise, mind you, And then somebody
Speaker 4: else that I know that we know countered with Cody
Speaker 4: versus Roman at WrestleMania forty, but then that involved shenanigans,
Speaker 4: So maybe the best one on one only the two
Speaker 4: competitors in the match since Taker HBK One. I would
Speaker 4: be inclined to agree with that, because I think since
Speaker 4: then nothing has stood out this much as an all
Speaker 4: time classic with just the two participants and no one
Speaker 4: else getting involved, Okay.
Speaker 2: And I would agree with that. I would agree with that.
Speaker 3: I still think that WrestleMania forty main event just as
Speaker 3: it is, no just just as a segment of wrestling
Speaker 3: match doesn't matter who was involved or who was not involved.
Speaker 3: I still think that was better than WrestleMania forty two.
Speaker 3: And I'm trying not to put my own bias in
Speaker 3: it because I experienced it live with you. But at
Speaker 3: the same time, Wrestlmania forty two great great match, and
Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons why at real sports
Speaker 3: we weren't as loud as I thought it could be
Speaker 3: is because we were just all so entranced by the
Speaker 3: actual match itself. And that's something I find about Toronto fans.
Speaker 3: At Toronto fans and particularly Toronto Maple Leaf fans, the
Speaker 3: people will say that, oh, it's so corporate, or so
Speaker 3: they're so quiet, whatever, that the real fans are up
Speaker 3: in the top row whatever like that, and they probably are,
Speaker 3: but they're also just intent on watching the quality of
Speaker 3: the hockey that's in front of them. And I think
Speaker 3: that's kind of what we what I found at Real
Speaker 3: Sports that night is that everybody was just glued to
Speaker 3: the big screen and all of the little screens as
Speaker 3: well too in that place, because that places a lot
Speaker 3: of screens. And and yeah, I mean it was loud
Speaker 3: when Sam Pump came out out and entered. It was
Speaker 3: loud when Roman, when Roman came out to the original
Speaker 3: Bloodline theme, it was and the pop for seam Punk
Speaker 3: getting the pinfall afterwards was also loud.
Speaker 2: That in between everybody was just paying attention. It was
Speaker 2: just it was interesting. And how is the pop for
Speaker 2: when Roman Rains got the pinfall to end it?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that when when Sam Punk lost, I'm sorry
Speaker 3: when Roman Reigns got the pinfall to end it, it
Speaker 3: was allowed.
Speaker 2: It was very loud in that uh, in that bar.
Speaker 4: But and so Roman ends up with his first World
Speaker 4: heavyweight championship in his eleventh main event at WrestleMania m hm.
Speaker 2: He's now a seven time champion yep.
Speaker 4: And he came out on the raw Romania and brought
Speaker 4: out his cousins, the usos and we had a little
Speaker 4: mini reunion of the O G three in the Bloodline.
Speaker 4: So that's interesting.
Speaker 2: And then it became Jacob Fatu challenging Roman for the
Speaker 2: World Heavyweight Championship. So interesting developments. The road goes on
Speaker 2: because w w WE Pro Wrestling has no off season.
Speaker 3: Exactly, and and you know this is also you know,
Speaker 3: getting the bloodline, getting the other members of the bloodline involved,
Speaker 3: the other cousins and everything.
Speaker 2: It's it worked, and it's it's worked for thirty some
Speaker 2: odd years. Yeah, it's the moments. Man. That family is
Speaker 2: just insanely talented.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah they are, hey, and they kept our attention
Speaker 4: for about four or five years with the actual og
Speaker 4: bloodline story. So let's see what happens from here on out.
Speaker 4: But congrats to the tribal chief. I acknowledge Roman Raines
Speaker 4: as the tribal chief and now the World heavyweight Champion.
Speaker 4: What a Night two and what a way to close.
Speaker 3: It off, and so and before we go, we just
Speaker 3: have a little bit, we have less than a min
Speaker 3: or something like that.
Speaker 2: Again, I think it was paced the right way.
Speaker 3: You had some good matches and you and you had
Speaker 3: a good building for Night one and then.
Speaker 2: It just crescendoed Night two.
Speaker 3: So it was something there wasn't a drop off for
Speaker 3: me particularly, So yeah, I mean neither man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it's good. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people need to, you know,
Speaker 3: just understand that maybe WRESTLMANIU forty kind of spoiled us
Speaker 3: in terms of like you know, epic noess of main
Speaker 3: events and everything, and it's going to take a while
Speaker 3: to come down off of that. But there is some
Speaker 3: good quality wrestling, some good high level storytelling that's involved here.
Speaker 3: And I think that there's too much outrage in this
Speaker 3: well on the Internet in the whole.
Speaker 2: But the IWC, the Internet wrestling community just.
Speaker 3: Maybe doesn't know when to say, you know what, let's
Speaker 3: just enjoy things for what they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the okay, so for the you know, so
Speaker 2: called little short match times. Honestly, every match maximized their
Speaker 2: time in my opinion, Yes and again, and I enjoyed
Speaker 2: all of them.
Speaker 4: And it's so funny if people are missing the Attitude
Speaker 4: era and complaining about this modern day product and they're
Speaker 4: complaining about the short matches and yet wanting the Attitude era,
Speaker 4: you see how incongruent that is. Yes, yeah, come on, guys,
Speaker 4: know what you're complaining with too, man, come on.
Speaker 3: Exactly, But hey, you know what WrestleMania is WrestleMania, and hey,
Speaker 3: we're gonna get and we're gonna see it all again
Speaker 3: next year.
Speaker 2: But we're also gonna follow the.
Speaker 3: Story as we go along the week, from week to
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