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Speaker 1: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome,

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Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks for telling a friend.

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That's how we spread the word about the pirate ship.

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Today's episode is going to be a little bit different

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and honestly, I think really special. I've never done anything

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like this. I've been encouraged to do some solo podcasts.

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Somebody reached out to me and go, I think you

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need to just be you in the room sometimes, so

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we'll see how that goes. But this is my birthday week.

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I am turning fifty four, and I birthdays really have

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never meant anything really to me. I think as a kid,

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I used to tease my sons when they were younger.

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I would say, hey, you know, when you turn thirteen,

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we stop celebrating your birthday. What we start celebrating is

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your achievement day. Whatever you did that is great, Like

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you know, we'll celebrate the day that you finished Cub Scouts,

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or will celebrate the day you hit a home run

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or the day you made a pick in a game,

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and that'll be the day we celebrate you. On the

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year I did not go over well, but I just

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to me, it was kind of nothing. What did I do?

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I was born? I've always felt like the real hero

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of that day is your mom. She's the one that

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did all the work that day, brought you into the

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world and has been by your side ever since. Right,

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So today I invited my mother to join me on

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the podcast for a conversation, and we're going to talk

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about the day I was born, of course, right the

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journey our family's been on and some of the wisdom

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that she has gained along the way. Now my mom

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is also and we've talked about on the podcast a

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level three Reiki healers, So we may even get into

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a little energy and healing and a few things that

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I think will leave you hopefully inspired. That's really what

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I want to do here. And of course I want

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to honor my dad as well, who passed away a

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little more than a month ago, like a month and

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a day. And even though my parents weren't married, they

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spent thirty five years building a life together and their

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story is a huge part of mine. So this episode

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is about family, love, resilience, and hopefully we get a

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few laughs in there. So with that, I bring on Mom, Marge,

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Hi Mom, Hi Bill. Well, I know and I I

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never was like the birthday week person you. We used

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to call it the high Holy Days with you, and

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it was wonderful. You had the greatest birthday celebrations you did.

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We all went up to Cape Cod, we all, I mean,

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those were really really fun, fun times to the point

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where like my older sons, they love that. They talk

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about that, yeah to this day. So that's always special, especially.

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Speaker 3: The older I get. You have to celebrate everything you

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can because you never know when that's going to run

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out and you're not going to be able to celebrate anymore.

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And I think that's extremely important to celebrate. And also,

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you know, when you were talking about birthdays and being

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that important, I'm thinking, oh my god, all those cakes,

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all those stars.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, you did. But I'm saying, like, actually

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got older. You didn't do them when I was fourteen,

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fifteen years old, I didn't get those cakes. I think

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I got them up to like twelve, and that seems

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about right. Let's celebrate that. And then after that I

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used to tease the boys, so now we got accomplishment day,

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you better do something. That's what we're going to celebrate.

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Of course, that did not go over because anything I said,

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anything that I said that would even be slightly joking

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or I thought that was a pretty good premise, get

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out there and hustle, but it was always shot down.

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It was shot down and they went you know, they

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had a committee behind them. So I'll ask you kind

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of this what do you remember most about the day

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I was born, which was August twenty second, and the

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days around that kind of I don't know if there

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was chaos. I don't know. I always think now when

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I look and I'm sorry that I'm still talking, and

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I asked you a question, but you were twenty four

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Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I had finished graduate school,

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I had just worked a year, and it was almost

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like a baby having a baby in ways. Yeah, it

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was scared. And that summer it was very hot. We

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had a little apartment in Hyde Park, and I remember

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if I went to the movies and saw hospital scene,

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I cried because I'd never been in the hospital before,

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and now I'm going going to go to the hospital.

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Speaker 1: Though, So oh my god.

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Speaker 3: And you know what I used to think, there's no

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stopping this, Like when it starts, it's going to happen.

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You can't change your mind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the day you were born, I'm just thinking

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to me, it's so funny because I don't remember too

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much chaos. But I think your dad, if you were here,

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would say there was a lot of chaos because my

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parents were at the house and went into labor, and

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they didn't go home. My mother wasn't feeling well and

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she stayed, I'm not going to go into too much

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of that. So anyway, we went off to the hospital

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and it was a very long labor and for some reason,

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most of mine were and you were a very big baby,

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which we didn't realize at the time, but you were

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ten pounds and I was trying to deliver naturally and

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it was at Vassar Hospital. And so then they said,

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because I was having a hard time with the natural,

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why didn't I think of a spinal And all of

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this was so scary. And now because of the spinal,

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because it was fifty four years ago, your father couldn't

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come into the room. Yeah, so you know, now you're

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in I'm in with two men, a doctor Cohne and

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this is doctor Shannon, who is the anesthesiologist, and then

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can get you at and so you were this little

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cone head because they're using forceps pushing on me on

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the shoulders. And then when you finally came out, he goes, oh, no,

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wonder no. So that was that was a lot, you know,

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and it was a lot to recover from.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: I remember when I first looked at you, and you know,

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you look at a ten pam baby compared to other

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little babies, and it's like having a three one though,

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and you were just beautiful in my eyes, just beautiful,

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and it was it was very exciting, very exciting.

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Speaker 3: And it was good to have it all over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I can only imagine that would be like because I, yeah,

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were born that you uh, yeah, it's an exciting and

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odd time. You don't know kind of what to expect,

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especially with the first one, and you start to worry

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a bit. And of course this was you know, so

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many years later or thirty year years later practically that

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you could everybody could be in the room.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, remember I went out and I was bitching to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was the thing. And Dad was a

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real rock for me, and he was through all of

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the births. He really was, because I remember during Katie's

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birth and we always know with me it's going to

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take a while, he wanted to run home and get

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the camera and I wouldn't let him out of my side.

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I just yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how about as a as a as a kid.

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I don't know if I would have become.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think one of the funny things was, well,

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just like thinking with your birth dad was off because

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he was a teacher. Now he had worked that summer

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at a rehab center. And that was another thing that

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had my mind blown because I thought I had a

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worked with handicapped kids, that for sure, we're going to

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have a handicapped kid, because who could be better than too?

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Speaker 1: So well you did? I mean.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I did, but anyway, I so Dad

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went back to work and I remember being, oh my god,

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now I'm on my own. But it was fun. I

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really really enjoyed it. And then I went back on

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the Jewish holidays because my district was open, and I

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went in and I subbed. And so you were about

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six weeks old, and I'm saying to Dad, just talk

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to him, talk to him about everything. He's gone. I

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don't know what to say. No, And I, oh, you

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tell him everything. At tensions, deck could did this. So

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then we had recordings and at six weeks or less,

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you could track, I could keep your attention. You we

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would make visual eye contact and you could imitate sounds.

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So yeah, I think from that point on, I always

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knew you were a talker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a talker. I got in trouble in

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first grade for talking and I had to stand in

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the corner. Yeah, I was. I was always talking. And

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then yeah, I don't remember, like growing up, I was

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well behaved, I thought. So I was like I was

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afraid of getting in trouble. And then something happened where

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this almost like some kind of divine intervention, Like I

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just realized, oh my god, they're all full of shit.

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no idea, they were a mess, they couldn't figure things out,

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and I'm like, why am I listening to these people?

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I just like to have fun, that's it. And I

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don't know when I say biggest downfall, Like, yeah, I

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don't know if I if you had focused more. Would

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you be somewhere else? Would you I don't know. I

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don't know the answer to those things. I don't really

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sweat that, but I certainly I've I've been told over

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the years like, oh, you could have been, you know,

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from different people along the way, and I go, eh,

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I had fund It's important. I've had it, is it is,

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wish I could remember what great I was in when

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I tried to skip school and go fishing. And then

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you came popping out. I'm waving the bus on and

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I'm standing back because the garage was set, it was

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attached to the house, but just sept back enough and

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trying to hide there. And and how how like out

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of all the days, you never came by the door.

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Speaker 3: You know, no, you all think like you never did this.

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I was watching the bus come and drive. Well you

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could look from inside the windows, you know, it wasn't

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a big house, or I could work from the kitchen

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to there and take a peek in something.

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Speaker 1: Day was like I got busted. I so badly just

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wanted to go up and just spend the day hanging

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out by the pond, fishing. I didn't care. It was

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just a great.

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Speaker 3: Day, that's the thing. And even like the things, a

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lot of the things that you got in trouble for

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later on and stuff, and you know, being the one

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that that it was all really Tom Sawyer adventures almost

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like it was just kids in the country.

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that's a very very accurate statement. There was nothing that

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there's nothing that anybody's ever done that's so far out

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of bounds that you go, oh my god, what is this.

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was a Venn diagram, there are. We may be on

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the outer edges of certain things, but overall everything's kind

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of right there and it works. Yeah. You know, with

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with Dad's passing, and certainly he had a colorful way

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of recalling things.

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Speaker 3: He did.

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Speaker 1: He had a very colorful way.

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we need and I did something to Kate. I said, oh,

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we need to ask Dad.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, all he did. He remembered everything. But

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is there like thirty five years you guys were together,

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and what what did you learn from that, and what

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do you kind of carry forward? I guess would be

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a question. I know they're a little deep and maybe

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hard to answer, but.

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Speaker 3: Or things you wouldn't answer here, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, what's eh or say.

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Speaker 3: Or things you wouldn't say here, you know?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh on the podcast, is what you mean?

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looking for a pot time. I didn't know if there

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was something, because sometimes there are art things. I mean,

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he he was funny, I mean I I he was

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extremely funny. And I do remember, like at the dinner table,

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because he read the Mismanners Guy to perfect etiquette, so

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there were no sounds that emanated from below the neck.

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And god, we would just rip farts. And I'll never

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forget the time you jumped up. Do you remember what

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you did?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: They did. And I don't know whether to slap you

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or and.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I ripped a fart that was just

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it was award winning and yes you screamed.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why to slap your face or what

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your paper towel. And he just sat there like I

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think he was there. He just sat there. Yeah, and I.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't breathe of course, I found that absolutely so funny.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, in the thirty five years, you

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you do get a understanding that everyone is different and

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has a very different perspective of looking at the very

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same thing. And I think the good thing is when

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you can bring those perspectives together, you see things clear

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as a whole. And that doesn't always happen, but you know,

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it was good. And he that did have a knack

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for really seeing the complete picture a lot of the times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was very very intelligent, I I yeah, but

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it was very perceptive, right, you could kind of see

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things something.

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Speaker 3: He had a wonderful sense of humor. Now it could

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go on the road side and all that, but.

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Speaker 1: Nothing about that.

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Speaker 3: But you know, he to really be humorous, you have

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to be intelligent, and he really had a handle on

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all of that, you know.

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and he was so fun when he wanted to be

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you know, my my thing. And you know, for thirty

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five years, you guys being married, and even beyond that,

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it is certainly with the kids and the grandkids and everybody,

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And there was never any thing he was at your

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house last Thanksgiving. There was always right so there was

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never any animosity. But the thing that I always had

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trouble with with with dad, and it was one of

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these things where I've always tried to reconcile with myself,

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was there was this wildly hilariously HBO special funny guy

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and then there was absolute like by the book, there

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was no wiggle room, there was no screwing around. If

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this is the way it was. It was extremely serious

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or extremely funny, and there didn't seem to be much

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of a middle ground.

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Speaker 3: Yeah wrong, Marl Code too, Yes, yes, code. So right now,

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the fair, the Dutchess Count of the fair is going on,

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and you your birthday was during the fair and it

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will be again. Tried it and you would turn twelve. Okay. Now,

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I came from a family where you know, it's you know,

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my father's scooty and oh no oh yeah yeah yeah

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full price when you were twelve. Yeah, and in the

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long run, those were probably very Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He always said that too. He was you know, well,

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he was like, yeah, the kids were paying attention and

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they were noticing these types of things and that sort

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of thing. Yeah. Interesting, That's something I love the idea

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of because we don't I think and I don't want

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to say until it's too late, because I never think

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it's too late. But I don't think sometimes we appreciate

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another person's perspective, we get annoyed and we argue, and

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those things become that and I think sometimes it's hard,

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it's very hard. But I've been, you know, like I

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don't know if I got it from you or what,

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but I go into these weird things, and I spend

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a lot of time writing and thinking a lot, either

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early mornings or late at night. And I think sometimes

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that you have to tap into a higher frequency and

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then decide what your emotions are, because if you don't,

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then the other person's perspective that you may not agree

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with is just going to bring you down. And so

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if you stay up there, you might actually be open

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to oh shit, okay, you know that, that's a great

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that's a great way of looking at it. I didn't

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think of that and instead of like resistance resistance resistance,

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which I think sometimes can be a learned thing. And

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his way was really my way or the highway many often.

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Speaker 3: Often and there are a lot of people like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean more of an I would say today

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an old school philosophy, you know, I'm I'm sometimes amazed at.

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Speaker 3: Things the church enters into that too. Yes, yes, and

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it was their way or no way, you know, and

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so yeah, things didn't matter on things that didn't matter

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that like with the church, you know, yeah, and some

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times with a lot of us on things that we're holding.

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So when you step back and if you take the

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perspective of is this going to matter in ten years?

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Is this going to matter tomorrow? You get a different

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look at things. If you can pull yourself away from

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the emotion of the minute.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing I always will say often on

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the podcast, or knee jerk reaction is usually the wrong reaction.

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And then if you can give yourself what I'll call

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the buffer or the way to beat a beat in there,

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to actually go, hang on, what is this really? But

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we live in that world and that's the fun, right

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if you can step back and have somebody kind of go,

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you know, have this knee jerk reaction that's sort of

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explosive and cartoonish. I mean, the that's fun. I don't

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have to think like I go you know, you I

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feared him, he was very Uh sometimes have you handed

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and and not necessarily a good way. I think it

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always came from a very good perspective or a very

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loving perspective. I think, if you got down to it.

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But then I think the ship I did, and like

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the fart batder in the coffee and I go, who

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does that? Uh? You know? Or when he fell on

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the fire and we're calling him to see how long

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they answer the phone. That was actually I think Kevin's idea,

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or the farting and zip black bags and the different things, Mike,

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I think I think I just told this story the

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other day of like one of my favorites was Katie

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just sitting you know, you're He said, you were, as

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he would say, shewing my ass out, that your room's master,

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you got to clean the gun. Yeah, that you were

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all over him. But hey, I've told her to pick

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up this room a million times and she's not doing it.

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And so he said, I'm gonna take the door off,

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and he gave her a time that he was going

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to do it if it's not cleaned up by X time.

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And Kate didn't do it, and then she just sat.

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But I did she peel off clothes like every ten

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minutes until she was in her underwear, sitting by the

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door saying.

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Speaker 3: Hi to him in a place that he certainly didn't

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want to walk by, and so he was sitting like that.

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Speaker 1: No won, Yeah, she won. He put the doorback on.

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He used to say to me, I was time, Willie.

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You gotta know when you lost, you lost, and that

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was that was funny. Well, you bring up the church,

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and I've had lots of thoughts about religion, and I thought,

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you know, if we all followed the Ten Commandments, nothing else,

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just nothing else, it'd be a pretty nice planet. We

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were all, I think everybody would be pretty good. But

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the rigidity of church. And then what always lost me

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a little bit was Henry the A switching, you know,

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to Protestantism because he wanted basically, he would just want

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to have sex with Queen Anne or whoever was one

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of his wives, and the church wouldn't a knowledge, So

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he switched the entire country get switched for one guy

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in his penis Yeah, I mean really, And then years

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later it becomes so now we have a war in

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Ireland because Southern Ireland didn't follow and they stayed Catholic,

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which is where our families are from. And we still

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have family there, and then it became so bad that

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when we switched, Dad wrote a resignation. I wish I

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could wish I could see it, the resignation letter to

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the Catholic. Yeah, he wrote a resignation letter to the

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Catholic I don't know. I have no idea that I wonder.

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He might have given it to Patrick Colla, or he

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might have also sent a copy to the Archdioceis in

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New York. Who knows. With him, he couldn't done anything,

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but he wrote. He wrote a resignation letter, and very

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I'm sure, very thought out and philosophically as to why.

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And I, as a child, I'm seven, you were told

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that you weren't getting enough out of the church. It

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wasn't his Bible based. So we go Protestant and then

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your father doesn't talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Which then when I learned what kind of the history go,

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this is the religion is? Is it screwed up? It's

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screwed up a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I went down to talk to my father that day

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and he had been grocery shoping it was porn ran

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and I had a ring coat on, and he and

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I came in at the same time. And he's not

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asking me to sit down, and you know what Grandma

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was like, Edy gotta ask the poor girl to take

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her coat off. You know. Meanwhile he is taking grape

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troops out of the bag and smashing them on the

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wall in the kitchen. I had never seen anything like this.

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Speaker 1: This is all over religion, this is all over the church.

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Speaker 3: And then he retired and I was not invited me

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or my family to the retirement party, none of them.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, you see how deep that runch. And the

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only reason I sort of bring it up because I

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think one it was to me a very interesting family

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dynamic because I loved being at your parents' house. I

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used to go down for a week every summer. Your

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mom was one of my favorite people on the planet,

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and I love that she wasn't everybody's favorite person on

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the planet, but I just I got such a kick

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out of her. I did because all the stuff that

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I think would upset people or whatever, I saw it

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as kind of just cartoonish and nonsense and just sort

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of filling your day with stuff. But deep underneath there

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was nothing but love and just a genuine, genuine family

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oriented person, artists sensitive soul. I really felt that way

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about your mom. I really did. But I always thought, boy,

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you you stick to religion so deeply that it is.

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I just don't feel like that was the way it

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was supposed to be. I felt like sometimes religion became

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a way to control people it was, and that's not

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the way. And I think that that.

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Speaker 3: Was one of the last talks I had with that

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we were talking about religion, and I said to him,

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you know, it's not the way we were brought up.

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And I don't believe. I mean, that's all you can say.

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You don't believe. I really believe if you look at

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what Jesus, Buddha, any of the Greek philosophers preached and lived,

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it's about love. It's about being behind to each other's

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taking care of the people around you. I don't think

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it's about this harsh judgment. But the church has made

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plenty of money. I'm scaring the trap at it.

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Speaker 1: Well, fire and brimstone for sure, right, you know that

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was that that that was the fire and brimstone, and

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that was the thing. And I always think, I don't

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know that that that's really about it. You being a

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level three reiki healer, and I've talked to.

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Speaker 3: Others, I'm a master level four.

476
00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:16,799
Speaker 1: When did when did that happen? And why wasn't I

477
00:26:16,839 --> 00:26:23,000
invited to that graduation party? Oh you're a master level four.

478
00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:25,640
I thought you were only a level three when you

479
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,319
did it on.

480
00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 3: Me, you were all the way through.

481
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,279
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, good, well, I'm glad. I'm glad for

482
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:37,960
the correction. Uh. That is just really about energy. But

483
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,079
there are people who would kind of look at it

484
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,920
as you know, against the religion or whatever. And to me,

485
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,759
there are two separate things or two things that should

486
00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:54,400
be congruent, absolutely.

487
00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 3: And it is. It's all about energy, and everything is

488
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,960
made of energy, and you find it more and more

489
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:03,799
and sciences agreement with that, and it's and our body

490
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:09,960
is an amazing, amazing piece of machinery, piece of whatever

491
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,799
we were put together. And we do have the potential

492
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,240
to heal ourselves in many instances, or at least approach

493
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:21,079
things with much more of a calmness than we do.

494
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:26,119
And reiki just helps open energy channels and lets the

495
00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:31,000
energy flow more evenly through the body. That's what Ricky

496
00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:33,559
is about, and it is becoming much more mainstream of

497
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,920
certainly use it in the hospitals. They're using it in

498
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:42,160
hospice centers. The one I'm on the entertainment committee for

499
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,480
the condos, and.

500
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have an entertainment committee there.

501
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: We do, and we have different speakers and we have

502
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:57,680
parties and we're having a sound healing in.

503
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,519
Speaker 1: A week with the balls yep.

504
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,079
Speaker 3: And then on November eighth, I am bringing in some

505
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,519
of my reiki friends and we're doing reiki healings.

506
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh boy, Okay, how are people what is their

507
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:19,599
reaction when you say that you're level four or a

508
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,799
master reiki healer.

509
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,039
Speaker 3: Well, when people don't understand, it's funny, you know. And

510
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,640
some of my close friends they do kind of look

511
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,000
at you, and then you try to explain. And then

512
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,880
a few of the people we've done it on and

513
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,880
you know, just even the relaxation is so great that

514
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,599
people appreciate that, but it's more because of non understanding

515
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:41,680
than anything else.

516
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ignorance, Yeah, yeah, I mean.

517
00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:47,319
Speaker 3: That's that's which is the thing with everything.

518
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:51,079
Speaker 1: That's what's led to wars and all right, just absolute ignorance.

519
00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:55,079
Uh why what what made you pursue this? Because I

520
00:28:55,119 --> 00:29:00,359
don't recall this kind of woo woo when when I

521
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,039
was growing.

522
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,359
Speaker 3: Up, do you remember Dorothy Chanting, Well.

523
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: I do remember your your friend Darthu Taya darth Darthea

524
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:12,880
Taya Taya came down and she was from Syracuse, and

525
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,200
I loved her. She was like she just there was

526
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,599
something about that woman. She had energy and all she did. Yeah,

527
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,880
and she she looked she was she was older than.

528
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,799
Speaker 3: You, seventeen years old.

529
00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there was something cool about her look and all.

530
00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:35,480
Like she was very attractive in her way. Everything was

531
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,440
flowing and.

532
00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:38,119
Speaker 3: Came through those things.

533
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:42,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and yes, the Omega Institute, that's right. I

534
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:43,759
couldn't remember the name of that.

535
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:45,359
Speaker 3: The other day I went over to some things that

536
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,039
Omega also was dabbling along the way. But then when

537
00:29:50,079 --> 00:29:53,240
I retired and had time, I kept thinking, you know,

538
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:55,559
I need to look into this Riki further. And then,

539
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,960
and I truly believe nothing is by coincidence. I was

540
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:02,359
with pack Gelleck, who was one of the furthest people

541
00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:06,920
from Reikie really, and so I'm sitting with very straight

542
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,680
out of dinner, and she has a friend come in

543
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:11,000
who was a reading teacher in Hyde Park who's still

544
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:16,279
a friend of mine, Barbara Danna. And Barbara was studying Reikie.

545
00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:20,599
So Barbara took me. We linked up and I went

546
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,680
with her and we went over to this orang Jeanette,

547
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,359
who was a nurse offering the thing. But when I

548
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,680
first went, and I was very very nervous, and I

549
00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:31,720
was just coming in to observe and I didn't want

550
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,759
anybody going near me put in their hands. But the

551
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,039
woman that was teaching it said we can stand around,

552
00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:40,680
but she was going to do it. But before that,

553
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,720
they sat down and did some prayer, you know, prayer. Yeah,

554
00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:48,880
prayers are meditation all that, but they did tinctures. So

555
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:51,599
they were all opening their mouth and she's putting things

556
00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:54,039
on their tongue, and all I could think of is,

557
00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:55,640
oh my god, way to barbaritation.

558
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: Jim Jones, he was like, oh my God.

559
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,519
Speaker 3: And to this day, because I'm with the same group

560
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:08,039
of women and you talk to me Saturday, we laugh

561
00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:10,559
about that and the way, you know, it took me

562
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,279
a long time to to realize and be comfortable with

563
00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:15,640
it all.

564
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:22,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's very opposite. I mean, there, you you

565
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:29,160
were Catholic educated or through undergrad right, and then Syracuse

566
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,480
wouldn't be no religious.

567
00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:33,839
Speaker 3: And that was still private. The first time I really

568
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:35,759
looked into a public school was to work.

569
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:41,079
Speaker 1: Uh what does it taught you about people? Reiki?

570
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,079
Speaker 3: I think you see the sameness in people you know,

571
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:50,440
and I think you see how we all really are

572
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,079
the same. And you see the fears, the fears and people.

573
00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:57,319
So you see things that are blocking people, and you

574
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:02,359
see the many obstacles that so many people. Well, life

575
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,039
isn't a smooth run for anybody. You know, everybody has

576
00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:12,559
different right, so you see that, especially as people are sharing,

577
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,000
and I think it just that it once again brings

578
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,680
it all down to that we are all energy. We

579
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:25,000
all have fears and dance, but we are all capable

580
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,359
of love, and we have a great resilience. I think

581
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,799
that's really really I've noticed that that the resilience of

582
00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:37,720
people is remarkable resilience.

583
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: I just saw it on the Camera's happening. What's happening

584
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,039
with my head? Uh yeah, I would say that that's

585
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:53,319
probably very very true. Uh, I think, yeah, I just

586
00:32:53,359 --> 00:33:00,000
think that you gotta so it sounds so corny, becuse

587
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,559
we live in a see it, touch it tasted world.

588
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,640
So I think people don't trust things that they can't see.

589
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:12,119
And I can't see the energy, right, I can't see it.

590
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:14,960
I know that what's turning the light on, but that's

591
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:18,000
got conduits and wires and I understand that, but this

592
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,839
is like out there, what are you talking about? And

593
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,640
I think that you take it back to just anybody

594
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,400
who walks in a room and either lights it up

595
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:33,400
right there's a term, or or funks it up right.

596
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,960
It's like a green cloud came in and you you

597
00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:43,000
know you that's energy. That's energy, and that's a dominant.

598
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: Energy about some of that at lunch today. And I

599
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,920
think the thing right now, especially in the world we're in,

600
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:52,079
is we have to try to keep putting out as

601
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:57,279
much positive energy as possible. Right, negative energy just as.

602
00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:59,519
Speaker 1: Well, it's a lower frequency because I always think, like

603
00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:02,599
you know, there was a very mean Thomas Aquinas I

604
00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:05,359
don't remember. I always enjoyed these classes, even though I

605
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,360
was told I got gentlemen speech I which is my dad.

606
00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:12,880
That was my dad would say to I, you know,

607
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,599
the very simple philosophy that the being that is in

608
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,239
the trees, in the chair that you're sitting on, that

609
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,079
is in you, is this and that there is no

610
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,400
such thing as evil because it has all come from

611
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,119
the source. So if there's no such thing as evil.

612
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,840
There's only a privation of good to which I've said

613
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:33,679
is a lower frequency. Now there are people who will

614
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:35,880
tell you that there are people that have attachments. I

615
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,079
know people. I mean, I could get you into some

616
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:42,800
really really weird stuff if you wanted to and have Well, yeah,

617
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,679
and I'm not saying that that it's not right. I

618
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,519
think it's there. But you can decide every day where

619
00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:54,239
you want to be, you know. And I think your

620
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,239
emotions are your guidance system. And sometimes you got to

621
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,639
go inside to realize what's blocking and what's the fear.

622
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:04,039
And if you can go in and find the fear

623
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,480
and just sort of see that it's bullshit, you can

624
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:10,719
you can let it go. And I think that like

625
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,119
there was always this thing of let go and let God,

626
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:17,440
and no one ever did because they couldn't see God

627
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:20,719
and they probably really weren't sure what they're doing. And

628
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,480
you know, it's only it becomes like, well, it's only me.

629
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:25,119
How am I gonna How am I gonna do this?

630
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:30,400
I don't know. I think love and resilience are great

631
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,639
things to have learned from reiki.

632
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: And we worked so hard at trying to fix things

633
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:38,119
and we're spending our wheels most of the time.

634
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, definitely.

635
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: Capable, very I mean I've done that many times. But

636
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,199
if you could relaxed into the situation and kind of

637
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:55,239
let things play out, it often works much to your benefit.

638
00:35:56,639 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: I would Yeah, I think that's true. You know how

639
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,719
many times have you've been pressing, press and pressing for

640
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,559
something and then you put it aside and everything works

641
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:07,400
out or something comes I mean, I think people can

642
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,119
all think of examples of that in their life and

643
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:13,199
how it happened. I wish you were more like this

644
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,039
when we were little.

645
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 5: Know, no, no, no, that sounds horrible to say, like

646
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,679
that's a horrible thing to say, but like it's just

647
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,400
such a different way of you know, doing things.

648
00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: I have to take the time. See. The other thing

649
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:33,960
is and I think, and it's hard. You're raising kids,

650
00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:38,119
you know, two people are working. You know, I'm not

651
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:41,400
making I'm not talking I'm talking about people today. It's hard.

652
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,199
But if you can take the time. And one of

653
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,559
the things I found the most most helpful is to

654
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,440
try to take some time aside and meditate. But one

655
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,440
of the things I've found really really helpful, look like

656
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,320
an advertisement but it's the five minute journal heard of it,

657
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:06,719
and it just sets the tone for the day because

658
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,400
in the morning, you list three things you're grateful for

659
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:13,000
as soon as you're getting your feet out of the bed,

660
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,920
and it's a different focus because now you're focusing on

661
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:19,679
positive and you're focusing on what you're grateful. And it

662
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,880
could be that I woke up right right, that I

663
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,840
slept well, that the sun is shining, and then three

664
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,280
things that you think would make today great, so you

665
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,199
know what you have ahead of you for the day.

666
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:33,840
But if you look at that and then a daily

667
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,880
affirmation about yourself, something positive about you, which is something

668
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,480
we were never taught to do.

669
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: No, we always shin on ourselves. I'm fat, I'm ugly,

670
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:46,599
I'm out of shape, but I'm a terrible student. I'm

671
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:50,039
a bad athlete, I can't run, i can't walk. Yeah, yeah,

672
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:50,960
that is.

673
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 3: That's something cousive. Then at night and it is it's

674
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,280
five minutes highlights of the day, the three things. And

675
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,719
it may be completely different than what your birthday and

676
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,400
what were joined you in that day? What was good?

677
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: I just I know what my birthday present is.

678
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: Huh? What did I learn today?

679
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: What did I learn today I used to do that. Yeah,

680
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:16,599
I think that that's a great thing. I've been intermittent,

681
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,840
I would say about writing down things that you're grateful for.

682
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:25,000
I'm grateful for, but not maybe as consistent as that. Yeah,

683
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,400
because I was going to I was gonna say, I,

684
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,079
you know, going back, because I started to think of

685
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,840
our house growing up and stuff, and gosh, you know,

686
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,639
even my own kids and stuff. It is hard. Parenting

687
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,320
is hard stuff. And you've got you know, and it's

688
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,199
even harder now because they're talking to people that you're

689
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,960
not even aware they're talking to them at the same

690
00:38:49,039 --> 00:38:51,360
time they're talking to you, you know what I mean.

691
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,880
It's like you just don't know. So that always adds

692
00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:58,840
a new dimension of things and you've got to really

693
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,000
sort of trying to navigate all that. But I was

694
00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:06,239
thinking back to, like when we were growing up, three kids,

695
00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:11,000
both working, trying to keep the house going. Since you worked,

696
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:13,960
one of my favorite things, can I tell you one

697
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,119
of my favorite.

698
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,079
Speaker 3: Or no, the laundry, Oh god, I still.

699
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,159
Speaker 1: No. No, this wasn't you. This was the way you

700
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:26,400
did it was you found a place and you would

701
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,440
bring the laundry, drop it off and they would have

702
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:33,400
it folded and bagged, and you would bring it home,

703
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,039
and everybody's clothes were in separate bags, and all we

704
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:37,880
had to do was put it away, and we didn't.

705
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:42,360
There were leaning towers of clothes through RiPP plastic bags

706
00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:45,760
everywhere and everybody's room, everybody. But my father used to

707
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,239
get so mad because he would say to you, because

708
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,039
you asked him once to go pick up, I'm not

709
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:51,840
doing it. I need a paper bag to put over

710
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,400
my head. I saw my shitty drawers. I can't like

711
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:59,480
he did this whole like he was legitimately upset that

712
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:01,360
someone may see a skid mark.

713
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, yeah, I'm just thinking of the laundry in our basement. Yeah,

714
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:11,079
with those filling the machine well falling down, And.

715
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,679
Speaker 1: He decided that. He decided, why why was that? There

716
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,840
was something like It wasn't always no, it wasn't always

717
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,360
like that, but he decided when something broke, he's like,

718
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:24,000
if you know the rules, you can figure out around

719
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,719
a big deal. He ran a hose across, so you

720
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,159
had to fill the washing machine from a hose like

721
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:35,039
you were in Appalachia, and you used to get some

722
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:37,199
because my guys were little and we were going to

723
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,840
do laundry and you were so embarrassed, and oh my god,

724
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:45,719
that was funny.

725
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: You have to figure And I had to do this

726
00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:54,559
with my with my own parents, and they did the

727
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:55,199
best they could.

728
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with that.

729
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: The best they could. You learned or you didn't learn

730
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,239
from what you were taught, you know. And and I

731
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,280
think at the bottom of all of it with my

732
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,239
own parents, and what Dad and I was was love.

733
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,960
You love your kids very much. You wanted to provide,

734
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:19,159
and yet somehow did it the best you could.

735
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: Well, yes, I think that's a very important, uh thing

736
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,559
to say, because I always look back sometimes and it's

737
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:32,360
it's very easy to go. You know. Freud made it

738
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,000
popular to blame your mother or his dad would say.

739
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,599
He called Mother's Day National blame Day, which I always

740
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:39,480
found so funny.

741
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,639
Speaker 3: But I don't think you did, no, But I have

742
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,440
to say, you know, he'd also which was a fun thing.

743
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,880
I really sat the other day after pay day. He

744
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,480
would say, oh my, oh it is so filled kids,

745
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:53,039
it's purpen.

746
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: Well, well it's purpen. What do you want or a

747
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,760
big order? Big day.

748
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 3: It hit me because I don't know money was coming. Yeah,

749
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,079
I was Yeah, tomorrow I get money. So I thought

750
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:06,719
of got that, and I thought of at the wallet,

751
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,280
purp and I burst still left And yeah, but now

752
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,519
I probably should have appreciated a lot of the stuff.

753
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: Well, it's hard in the moment. I mean there's many,

754
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:16,760
many things going on. So that's where I often think, like,

755
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,800
you know, you can beat yourself up or appreciate it now.

756
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,679
It's just a different perspective on the same thing. You know,

757
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,639
there are those who are much smarter than I that'll

758
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:29,519
tell you there's no such thing as time, and it's

759
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:32,159
only always right now, and all you're looking at is

760
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:35,880
the same thing from a different perspective. Okay, tell that

761
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:40,559
to my gray hair. Am I hurting back? But the yeah,

762
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:44,480
that that that's weird. I often think like we had

763
00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:47,599
a fun I thought of, you know, if you really

764
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:51,800
went down fun stuff like going cross country, you know,

765
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,400
even though it was we're all in that tiny little car,

766
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,480
but I mean there was fun stuff. We went out

767
00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:03,199
and skied in Utah. Memory though he got he got

768
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,239
on skis and he went from the lodge in Park City, Utah,

769
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:12,840
toward the ski lift to get in line, slipped and

770
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,280
fell like back like the legs the only thing was

771
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,280
like bent knees and him flat on the ground. He

772
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,360
gets up kicking and screaming, like screaming at this lodge.

773
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:29,079
Speaker 2: I hate the goddamn sensation of sliding up by And

774
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:30,880
then he spent the rest of the week in lodge

775
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,400
with Kevin So my brother, who was at the time

776
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:34,000
I think was.

777
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: Three four yea three or four yeah, yep.

778
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: But he didn't would Dylan has Dylan's been skiing since

779
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:46,760
he was eighteen months.

780
00:43:48,199 --> 00:43:51,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember I tried to get Jackson

781
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:54,119
out and then he fell and he cried and I

782
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:56,480
was overruled. That was the end of that. But yeah,

783
00:43:56,519 --> 00:44:01,239
I tried the same thing. Uh. It's yeah, it's interesting

784
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,519
when when you look back. There were lots of fun things.

785
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:06,000
I remember you won the uh lottery and you took

786
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:10,360
us to you won something, you won some money. Yeah,

787
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,639
and you took us all to the Ringling Brothers and

788
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:16,000
Bartam and Balley circus, which they I don't think they

789
00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:16,920
have anymore.

790
00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: Because yes, I think it was Super Bowl.

791
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:27,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe I'll ask you real quick, could what what

792
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:30,639
would be a good grounding thing for people? If you

793
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:34,440
were going to do raking, like a grounding because I'm

794
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:37,960
finding grounding when I say that, like walking in the

795
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,159
grass with bare feet sometimes, right, I Sometimes I do

796
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,159
that in the morning. And I noticed that the Buffalo

797
00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:50,199
Bills were doing that at Some players would go out

798
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,880
after practice on the grass field and just walk around barefoot.

799
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:56,079
Mm hm with with a sports psychologist.

800
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, now that's supposed to be very important, walking in

801
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,280
nh as much as you can, just getting in nature.

802
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:09,480
And I think again, like giving yourself time five ten

803
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:12,000
minutes even, That's why I wrote up that journal, to

804
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:18,320
just set aside, you know, get away from the phones

805
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:21,840
and computers and just get away from that for a

806
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,800
while and give yourself just a few minutes every day

807
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:28,360
to just concentrate. And I think one of the nicest

808
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,679
things that I've ever is the loving kindness meditation. I

809
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:36,119
don't go all that, oh, I'd like to do that

810
00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:41,400
for everybody right now, and just to you, so you

811
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,920
always start with yourself when you're doing this. But now

812
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,039
I'm going to say that I wish this for all

813
00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:50,000
of you today. I wish all of you may you

814
00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:54,519
be happy, may you be healthy, may you be safe,

815
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,360
may you be peaceful, and may we all be aware

816
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,719
and grateful. For many blessings. And what you do is

817
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,079
you do it for yourself and then you do it

818
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:09,360
for anybody you can think of, and you keep doing it.

819
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,639
You can do it for enemies, you can do it

820
00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:15,840
for political people. You can do it. But it's just again,

821
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:20,039
I think, putting a different spin on things and loving

822
00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:21,440
kindness out into the world.

823
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. We should probably end on that note. I was

824
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,599
going to ask you what you hope I carry forward

825
00:46:28,639 --> 00:46:31,960
from you and Dad along the way, But I think.

826
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 3: We got it well, just that we did do our

827
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,199
best and at the very least we loved you and

828
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,559
your brother and sister completely and really wanted you to

829
00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:48,239
know that. And you know, we're very proud. We talked

830
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:49,920
about that of the people you have become.

831
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:59,639
Speaker 1: You sure. I mean, I know that podcast something is

832
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:01,199
going to be really potty mouth.

833
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,119
Speaker 3: Well I can. People are saying, can we listen to this?

834
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:09,039
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, yes, well this they would No, they

835
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:12,719
picked they can pick the episode. I uh, they can

836
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:19,760
pick the episode. Oh that's funny. All right, Well I'll

837
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:24,280
take that as my birthday blessing that you said too. Well,

838
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,920
no birthday blessing and birthday blessing, you know, the year ahead,

839
00:47:28,039 --> 00:47:29,199
what would you you know.

840
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:37,559
Speaker 3: It would be your ahead, would bring your peace, love,

841
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:42,159
that you would be able to pre see and realize

842
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,960
and be grateful for all you have, and that many

843
00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:49,079
of the goals you have set out for yourself will

844
00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:49,880
be accomplished.

845
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:54,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's uh, that's very nice. Well, thank

846
00:47:54,119 --> 00:47:57,960
you so much for being on the podcast. Uh. And

847
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:01,920
I think actually for sharing the story and the wisdom

848
00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:05,079
and your heart. I think having this conversation on my

849
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:07,880
birthday kind of feels like a real gift. And I

850
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,320
know it sounds a little corny. I always worry that

851
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,760
I I don't like to show my sappy, soft underbelly,

852
00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:18,960
but I have it, and it's there because it's not

853
00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:22,000
just my day. I think it's ours, right, you and

854
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:24,880
me twenty second and then you know, Kevin's in two

855
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,480
weeks and it's you and him, and you brought me

856
00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:29,280
into the world, and I'm always grateful for that.

857
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:33,679
Speaker 3: Well, and I'm always grateful that I did. Yeah, did

858
00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:37,960
all three of you. So may your year be wonderful.

859
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:39,679
I love you from the bottom.

860
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,119
Speaker 1: Of my heart. Well, thank you. I'm going to take

861
00:48:41,159 --> 00:48:43,000
you off the screen. Don't go anywhere though, I'm just

862
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,480
gonna take you off. We're just gonna remove. To all

863
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:48,840
of you out there listening, I hope this episode kind

864
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,800
of reminds you to reflect on the people who made

865
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,599
life possible and the stories that shaped who you are.

866
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,840
Maybe it's your mom, possibly it's your dad, or it's

867
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,199
some one else who's played a big, big role in

868
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,360
your life's journey. If you can reach out, say thank

869
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,880
you or ask them to share a memory, you never

870
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,440
know what you're gonna learn, and I think that's very important.

871
00:49:11,039 --> 00:49:16,760
As for me, I get my outro music John Hyat.

872
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,760
Somebody said to talk about John Hyat too much. I

873
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,360
hear you. As for me, I'm going to carry my

874
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,519
mom's blessing into this next year of life and I'm

875
00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:26,360
excited to see where it takes me. And thanks for

876
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:32,800
being here to celebrate until tomorrow, Take care and keep

877
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:51,239
finding ways to honor the people you love. I woke

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00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,320
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