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<v Speaker 1>I want to welcome everyone back to the Peaking Yanda Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas seven seven seven is back with us. How are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing, Thomas, I do it well. Thanks for hosting me. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to take a break from the Continental

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<v Speaker 1>Philosophy series and talk about something that's in the news.

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<v Speaker 1>New York Post is reporting on it. I have their

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<v Speaker 1>article pulled up from yesterday the infamous picture from World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two entitled the Last jew of Anitsia. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>that through AI and facial recognition, they have figured out

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the officer from the famous picture. I

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<v Speaker 1>will share a screen on the picture for those who

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<v Speaker 1>don't who aren't familiar with the picture, well they're familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with it, they just don't know exactly what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is the picture, and it seems that the

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<v Speaker 1>the shooter has been identified as jacobis Onen, a teacher

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<v Speaker 1>born in Germany in nineteen o six. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>contacted you about this this morning, and you'd made the

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<v Speaker 1>suggestion that we might talk about this and should lead

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<v Speaker 1>into some wider revelations about the war that most people

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<v Speaker 1>either don't know or don't realize. So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>hand it over to you. Thomas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think a lot of people don't. Well, first,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a bunch of people on I wouldn't call

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<v Speaker 2>it the revision aside because they're not people who are

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<v Speaker 2>serious into historical research. But people are sympathetic the heterotopic

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<v Speaker 2>viewpoint saying this was a fake photo. It was not fake,

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<v Speaker 2>it's real. And other people are saying why would they

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<v Speaker 2>take photographs? Well, all kinds of reasons. If you were

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<v Speaker 2>an Eindsets group commander, you filed an after action report,

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<v Speaker 2>this was your mandate. You need to produce a body count.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was also men in the field who take

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<v Speaker 2>snapshots as souvenirs. Okay, if people think this is outlandish,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not passing judgment one or the other. I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>photographs of guys in Vietnam, American soldiers literally holding up

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<v Speaker 2>severed heads like for fun. Okay, I mean again, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not feigning moral outrage over that. But this idea that

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<v Speaker 2>it's somehow unheard of for photographs to be taken of

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<v Speaker 2>questionable activity or the shooting of non combatants, that's very naive.

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<v Speaker 2>But also what's going on in that photo is very

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<v Speaker 2>above board. It's not the kind of thing that was

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<v Speaker 2>being shown in movie houses in Berlin or Hamburg. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was a major component of operational doctrine in theater,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's characteristic of modern war. I include a whole

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<v Speaker 2>chapter on this in my manuscript that I'm writing. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna try and turn this into a show piece

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<v Speaker 2>for my own work product, but I think it's conceptually relevant.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this book by Christopher Browning, who I used to

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot more respect for, but then he testified

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<v Speaker 2>against David Irving, which I thought was really grimy. But

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote a good book called Ordinary Men. It was

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<v Speaker 2>about this. It was about Organum Politz Battalion one zero

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<v Speaker 2>one in Yolt's Foul of Poland. I'm sure I'm butchering

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<v Speaker 2>that pronunciation. And they were an einsts group battalion, and

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<v Speaker 2>he talked to a bunch of veterans and who were

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<v Speaker 2>pretty candid about what went on. I made a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of demanded anonymity, which is understandable. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>juxtaposed Brownings the testimony of these men and his original

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<v Speaker 2>research with the Senate Subcommittee hearings, among other things, on

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<v Speaker 2>the mass occurred in MELI four. This is something that

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<v Speaker 2>happens in modern war, and in the twentieth century when

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<v Speaker 2>war became when ideological imperatives became the causes belly of

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<v Speaker 2>scale conflict. You know, the categorical annihilation of human beings

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<v Speaker 2>became a military imperative. That's just a fact. This is

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<v Speaker 2>why the Holocaust religion is bullshit. It's not because things

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<v Speaker 2>like in that picture didn't happen. It's because that's the

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<v Speaker 2>face of modern wark and this idea that the Germans

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<v Speaker 2>are the epitome of evil and they hate Jewish people

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<v Speaker 2>for no reason, and this is a case of the

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<v Speaker 2>martyrdom of an entire race, and this is something that's

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<v Speaker 2>never happened before. Since that's what's a bullshit about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Not this didn't happen, it's the emphasis on it in

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<v Speaker 2>the way that it's characterized, is no centrality of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and the bigoted chauvinism of it. That's what's problematic. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll add too. You know, people have this idea, I

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<v Speaker 2>think from the movies or something, that Meli in Vietnam

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<v Speaker 2>was the secret and then you know, the civilian press

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<v Speaker 2>got wind of it or something, or some brave witness,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like the guys in that uh Huey Chopper,

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<v Speaker 2>who intervened, you know, went public about it. This was

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<v Speaker 2>published in Stars and Strikes. They said, this was a

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<v Speaker 2>great victory. Look at this great body count at me lie,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, go America Division. This wasn't a secret. That

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<v Speaker 2>was a free fire zone. These people were fair targets.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, anybody in a free fire zone in Vietnam,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of age, sex, overall health, they're an enemy. You

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<v Speaker 2>can kill them, and you're encouraged to kill them. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not any different. I mean, I'd argue that it

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot more in humane what the Pentagon was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Contra okw no, but no, no regular army guys in

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<v Speaker 2>the German Army you got drafted or being ordered to

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<v Speaker 2>do this kind of stuff. You know, you you were,

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<v Speaker 2>you were asked to volunteer. And if you couldn't handle

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<v Speaker 2>it and you refuse to do it, no one was

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<v Speaker 2>your shot. You're getting locked in prison, your career was over.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you were an enlisted man, you you'd probably

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<v Speaker 2>be looked at as a coward and a punk. But

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<v Speaker 2>no one's getting course marceled for this, you know. In contrast,

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<v Speaker 2>and you literally had some nineteen year old draft d

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<v Speaker 2>being told you had to waste the women, kids and

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<v Speaker 2>oldsters in a free fire zone. That's really really messed up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And I mean, I'm sure that there's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be patriotypes who say, I'm like some big liberal or

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<v Speaker 2>something we're saying that or whatever. But that's a fact,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And it's also people don't they don't really

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<v Speaker 2>understand what they don't really understand the third right and structurally,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to understand that Ross and kreeg es.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, beyond the fact that Ross and Creek

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<v Speaker 2>was part of like an overall policy imperative that framed

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<v Speaker 2>this mass campaign that was Barbara's, there was this weird

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<v Speaker 2>institutional agonism between between the army the SS. Then there

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<v Speaker 2>was a the Gestapo actually was the legacy organization of

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<v Speaker 2>the Prussian Secret police, and they always resented being under

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<v Speaker 2>the number of the SS. So Himmler's notion was he

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<v Speaker 2>established the SD the cigarette fenced, which was technically the

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<v Speaker 2>SS's internal security force. But they had trouble establishing a

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<v Speaker 2>mandate because they were resented by the police and by

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<v Speaker 2>the intelligence apparatus, which was the OBVER, which was horribly compromised.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a whole other subject from Heuter. So the

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<v Speaker 2>SD didn't really get its institutional mandate until Barbarossa. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when the race were kicked off in Earnest and

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<v Speaker 2>the r s h A was the umbrella organization and

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<v Speaker 2>the army, even guys who were pretty dogmatic National Socialists

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<v Speaker 2>in the General Officer Corps, they said an uncertain terms,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna you're not gonna involve my men in

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<v Speaker 2>this bullshit. You know, you're you're not gonna have my

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<v Speaker 2>people doing this kind of dirty work. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's particularly admirable. Okay, It's like, look, if we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to war, you're saying you're gonna wash your hands.

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<v Speaker 2>But like these guys got to do it because that's

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<v Speaker 2>what's coded into their into their mandate as policemen or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever or you know, as uh something less than soldiers.

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<v Speaker 2>I take exception to that, you know, and not just

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<v Speaker 2>playing devil's advocate like I mean, I actually find that objectionable.

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<v Speaker 2>And to be clear too, the man in that photograph

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<v Speaker 2>he was later KI eight because a lot of Einstein's

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<v Speaker 2>group officers and enlisted got killed in hostile action because

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to ethnic cleansing and categorically annihilating Eastern Jewelry,

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<v Speaker 2>then cleansing other racial enemies. They they were on anti

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<v Speaker 2>partisan duty, you know. So these guys weren't just doing

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<v Speaker 2>really kind of horrible things, you know again like warriors. Hell,

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<v Speaker 2>what they did is no worse and no better than

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<v Speaker 2>what the Allies did or their Japanese coliberance did. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on top of the stress of this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of activity, they were fighting this really brutal part, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>anti partisan war, and a lot of them were dying.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, so these guys weren't These guys were every

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<v Speaker 2>bit as much soldiers as there as their counterparts. And

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<v Speaker 2>in the here and the assess and uh, this also

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<v Speaker 2>plays under the fact there's this mythology and people have

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<v Speaker 2>this idea again a plant ushed you know, they claim, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the Nazis were evil because they, like Hitler, wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>quote like wipe out all Slavs or something like. There

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<v Speaker 2>was as a dejire, there was no category of slav

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<v Speaker 2>in the Third Reich. You know, there were another Nuremberg Codes. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>Jews are stripped of all political and civil rights beyond that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Uh, non Jewish Auslanders were treated like anybody else,

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<v Speaker 2>assuming you they weren't derived of a population that was

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<v Speaker 2>an enemy of the Reich like Poles, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was a race war under way between the Germans

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<v Speaker 2>and the Poles. And despite you know, I I've we've

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<v Speaker 2>recorded Kanya on this, the Poles were ethnically cleansing Germans, Jews,

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<v Speaker 2>Ruthenians and anybody else they didn't like, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>particularly singling out Germans. They slaughtered something like thirteen thousand

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<v Speaker 2>of them. You know, this was the cause of belly

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<v Speaker 2>of the nineteen thirty nine war. Okay, So this idea

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<v Speaker 2>that one day Adolf Hitler or Rhyodhydrich or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Hans Frank just like randomly decided he hated Slavs, that's asmine.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's such that such that that was like

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<v Speaker 2>a real prejudice. There was a habsburg of Austrian I mean, granted, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he in a lot of ways he thought like a

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<v Speaker 2>Prussian in terms of his historical sensibility and things. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it wasn't it wasn't Austrians and Bavarians who

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<v Speaker 2>who had this uh kind of enduring prejudice against the Poles.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that was like a that was a Prussian thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so it uh, but you know, the entire

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<v Speaker 2>rays on detra national socialism aside, I mean in power

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<v Speaker 2>political terms, you know, the internal situation and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>curate cultural palagenesis and all, you know, negotiate the future

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<v Speaker 2>shock of midernity. I mean, yeah, obviously that is that

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<v Speaker 2>was essential aspects of the constellation of values and conceptual

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<v Speaker 2>factors that made a national socialism. But the grand historical

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<v Speaker 2>mission and national socialism was for Europe to survive, it

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<v Speaker 2>had to become a superpower, you know, and it had

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<v Speaker 2>to consolidate and unite. And Europe's an indefensible peninsula. It's

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<v Speaker 2>this tiny little sliver basically on this giant land mass

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<v Speaker 2>of Eurasia. And the view of people like Hilary, of

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<v Speaker 2>people like Rosenberg, of people like Max fun Shooting and Richter,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Alconfert who died in you know, a munit.

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<v Speaker 2>This was actually pretty conventional geopolitics, geopolitical theory, and the

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<v Speaker 2>understanding was that the heartland of Indo Europeans or i

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<v Speaker 2>mean the Aryan race if you want to be less

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<v Speaker 2>delicate about it. You know, it was the Cacassus, which

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<v Speaker 2>is true, and out from that world island, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>civilizations spread, you know, carried by these Bronze Age conquerors.

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<v Speaker 2>Over time, though the Barbarian East and particularly the Mongols

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<v Speaker 2>pushed everybody out to the periphery, including the White Race,

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<v Speaker 2>and thus you had Europe. You know, that's basically the

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<v Speaker 2>Garrison Peninsula where Europe fought off the Orient. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's been fighting this desperate kind of rear guard action,

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<v Speaker 2>position of vulnerability for a millennia. That's why one of

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<v Speaker 2>my very favorite books is UH, the History of the

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<v Speaker 2>Mongols by Michael Proudon. That was that was required reading

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<v Speaker 2>at the s. S. Junker Seul and Yak and Piper.

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<v Speaker 2>He wrote his UH. He wrote his thesis to graduate

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<v Speaker 2>UH was curated under Genghis Khan. It's one part military doctrine,

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<v Speaker 2>a statement of the rights between the casts within Mongol society.

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<v Speaker 2>It's and it's fascinating because this was all this was

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<v Speaker 2>and the Mongols as a people for two reasons. The

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<v Speaker 2>similar said, the reason we are here in Europe is

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<v Speaker 2>because of the empire created by these people, which was

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<v Speaker 2>not only does European manhood and the new warrior Yaleman

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<v Speaker 2>races like the Mongols, and the European man has to

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<v Speaker 2>come to emulate that and curate that tendency within himself.

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<v Speaker 2>So the idea was as when Czechoslovakia fell apart, and

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<v Speaker 2>made no mistake, it did fall apart. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>that Hitler was some sorcerer who could make Czechoslovakia failed

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that that's that's an infantile way of looking

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<v Speaker 2>at human affairs, vague power political ones. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Bennett Hitler had a particular acts to grind with Bennie,

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<v Speaker 2>who was a real, very perfect and weasel like individual.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, when Slovakia succeeded, that was the nail

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<v Speaker 2>in the coffin of the contrivance with Czechoslovakia. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course Slovakia was a very close ally of the Reich,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and they they were very much part of

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<v Speaker 2>the Axis alliance. But you know, historically there's no love

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<v Speaker 2>loss between the Czechs and the Germans as uh as a,

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<v Speaker 2>Bohemia and Moravia were incorporated into the Greater German Reich

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<v Speaker 2>of ethnically cleansing the Czechs and then settling SS officers

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<v Speaker 2>there and providing them with, you know, fiefdoms within the

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<v Speaker 2>rich agricultural area contained within the protector. Hitler had talked

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<v Speaker 2>about deporting at least six million Czechs to UH the

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<v Speaker 2>eastern hinterland subsequent you know, obviously when like war was underway.

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<v Speaker 2>And but the problem was that UH, the Skota Arms Works,

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<v Speaker 2>localized and almost uh and very much you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>like a shop set up almost that there weren't giant factories.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Germans needed the scot To arms works, and

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<v Speaker 2>they needed the checks that were working there, and UH,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fighting a race war with the vestigial chess

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<v Speaker 2>check population and then deporting the people who man this facility.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that would have a non starter.

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<v Speaker 1>But leyah, can I interrupt you? Okay, Well, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things. One question I wanted to ask is when

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<v Speaker 1>realization that in the in the National Socialist cadre that

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<v Speaker 1>they were in a race war. And can you when

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<v Speaker 1>most people think race war, they think people who look

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<v Speaker 1>blacks against whites, and they think inter European doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a race war to them. So can you address

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<v Speaker 1>both of those?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I mean it was coded into Hitler said

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<v Speaker 2>as early and I was getting that. Hitler said as

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<v Speaker 2>early as nineteen twenty five. And it's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>few things that's worthwhile. In mine Kamp he said that

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<v Speaker 2>the Germany needs to look eastward because capturing that continental

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<v Speaker 2>land mass, the world island, is what is going to

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<v Speaker 2>make Europe a superpower. And it's it's a fool's errand

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<v Speaker 2>to try and play the game of colonies or to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, try to expand west. And also, you know, Hitler,

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<v Speaker 2>like every other European of the time, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>he viewed the Westphalian consensus as a moral imperative. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't you're not gonna ethnically cleanse France and capture

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<v Speaker 2>as Laban's wrong. Obviously, why do the Germans view Slavs

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<v Speaker 2>and Jews is a different race? Because they were like

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<v Speaker 2>this idea, this idea that race is group anatomy. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>thinks that way about Americans, you know. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at, uh, the Russians as a people, they they've

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<v Speaker 2>got a totally different lineage, they write in a different alphabet.

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<v Speaker 2>They uh, they've got a totally different heritage. Russia's an

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly racial, like ethnically and racially diverse place, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and it always has been, you know, the uh, the

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<v Speaker 2>German view of race, and I've written about this, everything

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<v Speaker 2>was biologically coded. Then that's the way everybody thought about things.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this like materialist, reductionist perspective. You know, America thought

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<v Speaker 2>that way, in France, and the UK in in Japan,

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody thought that way. So that's when the Germans

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<v Speaker 2>talk about, you know, this biological criteria determining ethnoics or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that that's why it's because that was the Zeitgeist.

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<v Speaker 2>But nobody, nobody in your up viewed uh Eastern Orthodox

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<v Speaker 2>people from the step as white people. And even if

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<v Speaker 2>they were, it's like they you know, they wouldn't even register.

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<v Speaker 2>They're okay, great they're white people. They're still a different race.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are our enemy, you know. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole it's coded fear of the East is coded

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<v Speaker 2>into was coded into Europeans. And for a good reason,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I highly recommend Praudence book. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>if people want to understand this, they should read it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not an accident. It became essential reading in the era,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And it's I've probably got a bias for

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<v Speaker 2>traditional anthropology because the thing is just more complete, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, and aside from that, I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the population genetics is basically validating these observations and the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of mapping of these things based on cultural ephemeraa

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<v Speaker 2>and and ethno linguistic patterns and things of behavior and

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<v Speaker 2>and cultural production and and things like that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that that's that's why, and it uh but it's

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<v Speaker 2>also too I mean, people had to you know, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Soviet Union especially, I mean adding to

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<v Speaker 2>the alienage of it. This was essentially an uprising such

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<v Speaker 2>that there was a European character to the Russian Empire,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was in terms of its leadership cast. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's what Peter the Great, you know, his whole

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ways, uh, the uprising that created the

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<v Speaker 2>Soviet Union, once the bolshemk caadres were able to kick

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<v Speaker 2>off the megacitl you know, activity of of of the

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<v Speaker 2>body politic, it basically was a way of wiping out

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<v Speaker 2>the European element that was viewed, not incorrectly as kind

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<v Speaker 2>of an overcast. So there's that too, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>the Soviets are animated by this aggressive military doctrine of

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<v Speaker 2>of proletarian revolution, and they openly stated they're not bound

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<v Speaker 2>by the Geneva Convention. They don't recognize international law as

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<v Speaker 2>defined and permissively implemented by by the capitalists, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they they they they categorically removed themselves from the European

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<v Speaker 2>Moral Consensus, even had they been party to it previously,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think they were. So it's all of

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<v Speaker 2>those reasons. But the test case if you will, for

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<v Speaker 2>what became racial policy in the East. It started in

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<v Speaker 2>Bohemia Moravia and then the Polish general government enter Hans

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<v Speaker 2>Frank because you know, Poland had to be UH. Poland

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<v Speaker 2>was slated for annihilation, not just owing to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>convenience of geopolitics and you know, and imperatives they're in,

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<v Speaker 2>but also because there was there was genuine ethnic hatred

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<v Speaker 2>in between the polls and the Germans, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>uh Hitler wanted to punish the polls. There's a deliberate

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<v Speaker 2>violence behind that, and it went beyond the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, settlement of the Danzig Corridor and the fortification

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<v Speaker 2>of it, you know, and and made the mistake like

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<v Speaker 2>when when the Reich invaded the the people at Danzig

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<v Speaker 2>rose up, and you know, they they viewed themselves almost

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<v Speaker 2>like almost like woid Zimbabwe did, as this beleaguered UH

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<v Speaker 2>population that you know, was hated by this super majority

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<v Speaker 2>and that was always at risk of it being ethnically Clinton.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, there was that too. And and these

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<v Speaker 2>people obviously, you know, they a lot of them were

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<v Speaker 2>like very art national socialists, you know, when they're the

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<v Speaker 2>like okay, it's on, you know, we're we're going to reclaim.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to reclaim this land for the Reich, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're gonna punish these people who, in their arrogance,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, thought that they could, uh thought that they

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<v Speaker 2>could ethnically cleanse our people from their midst you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So it became what it became what the what the

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<v Speaker 2>foreign ministry, the military, the right chancery came referred to

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<v Speaker 2>as a territorial policy, you know, and that was exclusive

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<v Speaker 2>to the East. In a nineteen twenty eight in talking

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<v Speaker 2>about you know, future racial warfare, you know, Hitler said,

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<v Speaker 2>whether they're gonna have to, you know, in a war

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<v Speaker 2>of conquest, we're either going to have to sterilize foreign

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<v Speaker 2>elements to ensure that they can't contemd you know, continually

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<v Speaker 2>adulterate the conquering element, which is us or quote removing

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<v Speaker 2>them all together, and uh make over to its own

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<v Speaker 2>people the land thereby released, and which is exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And so how how uncommon a an attitude was that

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<v Speaker 1>towards the enemy at the at the time, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, it was very common. And like I said, the

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<v Speaker 2>polls were the Poles were ethnically cleansing the Germans not

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<v Speaker 2>just on the frontier, but you know they anywhere anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>They were found in appreciable numbers, and you know, thousands

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<v Speaker 2>were killed, you know, and really and horrible stuff happened,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on on a par with the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that happened on the Eastern Front, you know later

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<v Speaker 2>between the Russians and the Germans. You know, the when

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<v Speaker 2>the when the Wehrmacht uh across the frontier, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, this is documented. You know they found, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>they found people with nails driven into their eyes, guys

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<v Speaker 2>who'd have been severely tortured, and uh, they had their

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<v Speaker 2>genitals cut off and stuffed in their mouth. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like like horrifying stuff. I don't get me wrong. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the Germans returned to serve like like like massively

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<v Speaker 2>and killed a lot of people. But you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>Poles are doing barbaric stuff. You know, this isn't and

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<v Speaker 2>Polands were all bout this crazy military hunda. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like Ukraine one point. Oh, it's like there's this

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<v Speaker 2>crazy houta. It's whacking Jews, it's technically cleansing Germans. It's uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's technically cleansing Ruthenians and Hungarians and and anybody they

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<v Speaker 2>just don't like, you know, they then they got then

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<v Speaker 2>they got this totally deranged, senile you know, war guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>further to do crazy things. You know. This wasn't people

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<v Speaker 2>are acting like Poland was somehow like Sweden and of

410
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:35.319
<v Speaker 2>the of A of the East or something. It's like this.

411
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<v Speaker 2>This was a totally out of control state that was

412
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:45.240
<v Speaker 2>behaving as as as a as a rogue government. You

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<v Speaker 2>know it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, Russia and the Russian Czars had a history of

415
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<v Speaker 1>dealing with this percent years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's also I mean this pot say too. It's

417
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<v Speaker 2>you know the reason why Stalin uh, I mean it

418
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<v Speaker 2>was twofold. Obviously, the the Reich didn't want to open

419
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<v Speaker 2>a general war up of the Soviet Union. So when

420
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<v Speaker 2>when ribent Troup approached, you know, it's counterpart in Molotov,

421
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:22.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Russians, the Russians, Uh, their pretexts and

422
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna it wasn't really pretextual. It was they were

423
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 2>they were looking to defend their own people in the

424
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:29.639
<v Speaker 2>East because the Poles doing the same thing to the Russians.

425
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:35.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean, it's not this idea that Poland

426
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:39.559
<v Speaker 2>was this great place full of peace loving progressive people

427
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:43.400
<v Speaker 2>who were marvelous neighbors. And they had this incredible progressive

428
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:48.239
<v Speaker 2>society within normal democratic government. And so that's why the

429
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:50.599
<v Speaker 2>Soviet Union and the German Reich just didn't beaded them

430
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 2>for no reason. You know. It's and I mean for

431
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:56.239
<v Speaker 2>context too, and I don't wanna, I don't want to

432
00:34:56.280 --> 00:35:02.920
<v Speaker 2>derail this into a discussion of the of September nineteen

433
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:10.119
<v Speaker 2>thirty nine. But the Reich offered the Polish hunta unconditional

434
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.639
<v Speaker 2>They said, look, we make no demands other than we

435
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:17.760
<v Speaker 2>want some kind of dedicated access route to Danzig, you know,

436
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 2>and we want some sort of you know, mutual defense

437
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 2>agreement you know, contra the Soviet Union, because we don't

438
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:36.719
<v Speaker 2>coordinate deployment patterns an event of a threat, you know,

439
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:44.239
<v Speaker 2>we're both at risk, you know. And and the Polish

440
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:50.599
<v Speaker 2>response to that was to start ethnically cleansing the German population,

441
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:56.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, for all private persons declare that they they

442
00:35:56.920 --> 00:36:00.800
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't incumbent on them to negotiate with anybody, you know,

443
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:03.840
<v Speaker 2>like I said, it's like Ukraine one point zero, you know,

444
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:08.599
<v Speaker 2>it's you're met with grunze threats and obscenities when when

445
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:11.800
<v Speaker 2>you when you try and talk to talk to people

446
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:18.559
<v Speaker 2>like like men, you know, And I'm not and I'm

447
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:20.280
<v Speaker 2>not saying you're saying, I think it was cool or

448
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 2>a good thing that Poland was a pro brag purpose

449
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:26.719
<v Speaker 2>is annihilated by the German, right, But I mean that's

450
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 2>that that's race war and the if the stakes. And

451
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:37.639
<v Speaker 2>to be clear too, what the this. I mean you

452
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:42.079
<v Speaker 2>could argue that this is categorically arbitrary, but Aryan elements

453
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:50.599
<v Speaker 2>in Poland were treated like any other Europeans, you know,

454
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:54.639
<v Speaker 2>or and obviously you know a lot of people were

455
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:58.719
<v Speaker 2>bilingual or multi lingual. Clearly people who could physically pass

456
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 2>as you know, European and we're willing to speak German.

457
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:06.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, kind of got along, okay, But you know

458
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:12.480
<v Speaker 2>the reality is I'm not suggesting people need to look

459
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.920
<v Speaker 2>positively on this or something, but you know, in context,

460
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:22.880
<v Speaker 2>that was a situation where a basic callousness and brutality

461
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>was characteristic of decision making. But also too, I mean

462
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:31.199
<v Speaker 2>again the I think the point of people again and again,

463
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:38.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, one of you know, the NBAH, you know, Croatia.

464
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<v Speaker 2>First of all, I mean the Germans and the Croats

465
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.280
<v Speaker 2>are always thick as thieves. I mean they always have been.

466
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:48.800
<v Speaker 2>They were in the Thirty Years War, you know, Helmet

467
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:55.519
<v Speaker 2>Cole immediately recognized Tujmon's independence and ninety one. You know,

468
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:58.719
<v Speaker 2>the Croats are very Slovic and who are the only

469
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:05.400
<v Speaker 2>people who uh we're not just formally assimilated into the Wehrmacht,

470
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:10.599
<v Speaker 2>but they were the only non German element cause ativity

471
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:13.239
<v Speaker 2>the Leade Assault group at Stalingrad. It was a bunch

472
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:17.000
<v Speaker 2>of Croatians, you know. So it's like, so the Germans

473
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:19.840
<v Speaker 2>hated Slavs, yet you know they they were treating the

474
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:24.599
<v Speaker 2>Croats as you know, not as fellow nancial socialists, but

475
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:27.239
<v Speaker 2>you know they're racial brothers in arms. You know. It's

476
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:34.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Slovaks too were very uh you know,

477
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:38.599
<v Speaker 2>uh Hitler had great respect for Tisso and there was

478
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:47.880
<v Speaker 2>a basic affinity between the Slovak uh clerical fascist state

479
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:51.440
<v Speaker 2>in Germany. Oh. Delio glibacin that cool get into in

480
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:53.719
<v Speaker 2>a minute, because he played an important role in in

481
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:59.280
<v Speaker 2>the territorial policy of the SD. He was he was

482
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:05.400
<v Speaker 2>a Bulkan slam you know, I mean, there ain't no

483
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Germans named Gilio globatchnig and he was the equivalent of

484
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<v Speaker 2>a he was he was the equivalent of a of

485
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:16.039
<v Speaker 2>a full colonel in the s S. You know, I

486
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:20.880
<v Speaker 2>mean I it's examples are legion, you know, it's there

487
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.519
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a you know again. But the main thing is,

488
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<v Speaker 2>like I said, there was there was no category the

489
00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:31.760
<v Speaker 2>jury of slav That's that's not really it's a cultural

490
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:36.000
<v Speaker 2>and linguistic category. But ind of itself, it's not it's

491
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:39.000
<v Speaker 2>not it's not a it's not a racial designation anyway,

492
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:42.639
<v Speaker 2>nor is it viewed that way in those days. But

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<v Speaker 2>the big if you want to put a date and

494
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:50.320
<v Speaker 2>then forgive me that was very much a digression, if

495
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 2>you want to put a date on when was Ross

496
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:58.760
<v Speaker 2>and Kree against policy formalized. The over Salzburg meeting on

497
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:03.800
<v Speaker 2>always twenty second nine. This is when it became clear

498
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:09.480
<v Speaker 2>that war with Poland was inaudible. Hitler called a meeting.

499
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<v Speaker 2>He summoned a bunch of elements from ok W, as

500
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:22.039
<v Speaker 2>well as UH Himmler and some of the higher SS

501
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:31.239
<v Speaker 2>leaders and uh von Bach veedor von Bach was a feldmarshal.

502
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:36.440
<v Speaker 2>He said that Hitler openly stated that the coming war,

503
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:38.360
<v Speaker 2>the things are going to be done of which German

504
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:42.280
<v Speaker 2>generals would not approve, you know. And he said, therefore,

505
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to burden the army with necessary liquidations.

506
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<v Speaker 2>And it's also you know, like I said, the Himmler

507
00:40:53.920 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 2>was an old fighter and uh Hitler was respected him,

508
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:09.400
<v Speaker 2>and he wanted to kind of test the apparatus Hitler

509
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:13.239
<v Speaker 2>was presiding over in the in a territorial policy that

510
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:19.599
<v Speaker 2>was being curated, and Himmler was ominous as the task

511
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:21.960
<v Speaker 2>was was more than happy to abide it because it

512
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:26.880
<v Speaker 2>gave him this tremendous mandate, you know. And this this

513
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:29.400
<v Speaker 2>is the birth of the eset scrup And that's when

514
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:32.719
<v Speaker 2>Hitler literally gave Himler the task of forming the inset scruping.

515
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:37.559
<v Speaker 2>Not to be clear, because this becomes an issue of controversy,

516
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and this is actually this, this really was at the

517
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:49.559
<v Speaker 2>core of the Irving trial. Irving's claim and I accept this.

518
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Irving's claim is that there was no fear order that

519
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.519
<v Speaker 2>ordered the final solution. There was no mass conspiracy from

520
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 2>the top down to exterminate European jewry that was being

521
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:10.159
<v Speaker 2>managed and directed by Hitler. That should be obvious, like

522
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:13.880
<v Speaker 2>to claim otherwise, that's like saying that Lynding Johnson ordered

523
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:17.159
<v Speaker 2>the Meli massacre and he was pouring over body count

524
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 2>reports and demanding to know, you know, what what the

525
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:24.239
<v Speaker 2>ratio was in free fire zones and Vietnam. That's just

526
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:28.239
<v Speaker 2>not how executive power works in the modern state. You know,

527
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:37.360
<v Speaker 2>incident to a territorial policy, obviously you're gonna need elements

528
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:44.199
<v Speaker 2>that deal in very bloody and grim things like ethnic

529
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:50.480
<v Speaker 2>cleansing and like antipartisan duty, which honestly, there's this gray

530
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.719
<v Speaker 2>area between what constitutes the antipartisan duty and what is

531
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 2>just ethnic cleansing. Okay, this isn't semantics or word games.

532
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:06.320
<v Speaker 2>This is a fan act. And uh the earliest iteration

533
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:11.039
<v Speaker 2>of what became the Einsets group and during the during

534
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:19.360
<v Speaker 2>the anslus Hydrich deployed with order police and sd elements

535
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:25.199
<v Speaker 2>that have been design formerly designated SAUNDER commandos literally Special

536
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:33.559
<v Speaker 2>Detachment elements, and uh they went into Austria to basically

537
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 2>protect the rear echelons and uh handle constabulary duty with

538
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:46.760
<v Speaker 2>an eye for deep security. You know, communists and uh

539
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Jewish agitators and other people who were you know, axiomatically

540
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:58.880
<v Speaker 2>opposed to the Reich and uh the Sunda commandos deployed

541
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:07.800
<v Speaker 2>again when Czechoslovakia fractured, and you know, the protectorate was

542
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:12.639
<v Speaker 2>declared and and the Wehrmacht moved in to the Czech

543
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:16.960
<v Speaker 2>rump state. But once once the immediate task at hand

544
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:23.639
<v Speaker 2>was over, they'd kind of been like reabsorbed into this

545
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:29.639
<v Speaker 2>like subordinate element accountable to the Gestapo and the the

546
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:36.599
<v Speaker 2>sd generally. So it was the over Salzburg meeting in

547
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:40.199
<v Speaker 2>August thirty nine that was the birth of the Eindsetts

548
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:46.639
<v Speaker 2>group in formal terms. And that is and we're talking

549
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:52.679
<v Speaker 2>about ethnic cleansing and ross and krieg and the territorial policy.

550
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:58.480
<v Speaker 2>The other important the other important event and day is

551
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:03.280
<v Speaker 2>October forty three. Read the posts and speeches where Himler

552
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:08.800
<v Speaker 2>openly he doesn't dwell on it, but he talks about,

553
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:14.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, in the conics of territorial policy. He assembled

554
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.559
<v Speaker 2>higher s asent police leaders. He says, we're talking about

555
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:20.079
<v Speaker 2>the annihilation of the Jewish people. He openly says that,

556
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:23.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, and people can argue semantics with me on that.

557
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:27.880
<v Speaker 2>But I like, again, why I don't know why people

558
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:34.039
<v Speaker 2>who identify as revisionists try and take this kind of

559
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:39.039
<v Speaker 2>perspective of none of this happened. That's silly. And it's

560
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:45.440
<v Speaker 2>also it's not the issue, you know. It's the issue

561
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:48.920
<v Speaker 2>is this is characteristic of modern war and it doesn't

562
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:56.639
<v Speaker 2>represent some rarified evil or something. And foundationally too, it's

563
00:45:56.639 --> 00:46:02.320
<v Speaker 2>not an accident, I mean nineteen thirty nine obviously something

564
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:05.519
<v Speaker 2>we haven't addressed in discreet terms yet. We've been talking

565
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 2>about the territorial policy and the Ross and Kreeg between

566
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:17.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Eastern Slavs and the Germans. We haven't

567
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:22.679
<v Speaker 2>specifically talked about, you know, the ethnic cleansing of of

568
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:34.159
<v Speaker 2>the Eastern European Jews. The UH I mean obviously coded

569
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:39.800
<v Speaker 2>into national Socialists ethics, you know, it is the understanding

570
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:44.840
<v Speaker 2>that Jews are the enemy in existential nontological terms. But

571
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:52.119
<v Speaker 2>it was in January nineteen thirty nine, that's when it

572
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Hitler issued the speech before the Reichstag, so eight months

573
00:46:55.960 --> 00:47:04.280
<v Speaker 2>before your Salzburg meeting. That's when he said, quote today,

574
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to once again be a prophet if the

575
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:12.599
<v Speaker 2>international finance Jewry, if international finance Jewry inside and outside

576
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:16.679
<v Speaker 2>of Europe manages once more to precipitate the world into war.

577
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 2>The outcome will not be the bolshivization of the earth

578
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:24.559
<v Speaker 2>and the consequent triumph of Jewry, but the annihilation of

579
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:31.000
<v Speaker 2>the Jewish race in Europe. End quote. Now, this was

580
00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:41.840
<v Speaker 2>when this was in response to, according to most people

581
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:51.119
<v Speaker 2>who know the lower immediately prior Heim Weisman, who was

582
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.599
<v Speaker 2>an essential figure or a key figure, and what became

583
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:59.639
<v Speaker 2>the focus. He'd written a letter in Evil Chamberlain promising

584
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:04.280
<v Speaker 2>that all Jews everywhere stood with the UK and on

585
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:08.159
<v Speaker 2>the side of anybody who fought the Third Reich. And

586
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:17.039
<v Speaker 2>the Times published that letter, and that's the source of

587
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:21.360
<v Speaker 2>that headline. You know, world Jewelry declares war against the

588
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:30.000
<v Speaker 2>German Reich. So that's the context. And January nineteen forty two,

589
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:35.880
<v Speaker 2>and Hitler referred to that Weisman's statement on more than

590
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:44.119
<v Speaker 2>one occasion. And then January thirtieth, nineteen forty two. I

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00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:49.880
<v Speaker 2>don't accept the vance conference narrative. We can talk that

592
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:56.280
<v Speaker 2>at some point. Why I I think it. It was

593
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:59.360
<v Speaker 2>part of the narrative aspect of the case in chief

594
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:08.119
<v Speaker 2>for a specific intent homicide. So it was a and

595
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:12.440
<v Speaker 2>if you know anything about the way prosecuting authority structure cases,

596
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:15.519
<v Speaker 2>it's based on narrative. So I don't accept that, but

597
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:21.760
<v Speaker 2>it is clear the Einstins groupmen became active in Earnest

598
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:26.239
<v Speaker 2>in the opening weeks and months of ninety forty two,

599
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:32.920
<v Speaker 2>and it was January forty two he said, he said,

600
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:38.039
<v Speaker 2>for the first time, we're implementing ancient Jewish law, eye

601
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 2>for an eye, tooth for tooth. You know, we're against

602
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:48.760
<v Speaker 2>the tribe. Obviously, the you know, the intended sentiment being

603
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:56.159
<v Speaker 2>the Jews started this war, and so now they're reaping

604
00:49:56.199 --> 00:50:01.480
<v Speaker 2>the whirlwind, and they they're waging a racial war on Europe.

605
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:04.760
<v Speaker 2>We are waging a racial war against them. In kind.

606
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:10.639
<v Speaker 2>I place a lot of emphasis on direct testimony and

607
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:16.159
<v Speaker 2>declarations of key personages. I mean, whatever the subject matter is,

608
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:22.639
<v Speaker 2>probably because my background in part is in the law,

609
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:29.039
<v Speaker 2>but the essential understanding the perspective of the fear, and

610
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:33.559
<v Speaker 2>particularly because this is an issue that's specifically put in controversy,

611
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:39.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, about not just executive intent, but the degree

612
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:46.880
<v Speaker 2>to which policy was being driven by individual decisions, you know,

613
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<v Speaker 2>and obviously no decisions of a political sort in war

614
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:57.559
<v Speaker 2>and peace especially or are rendered in isolation. So this

615
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<v Speaker 2>is it wasn't just an afterthought or you know, Hitler

616
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<v Speaker 2>taking the kind of rhetoric that was common to people

617
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<v Speaker 2>like Carl Luger and just implementing it at scale because

618
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<v Speaker 2>he was crazy your head, some sort of homicidal prejudice.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very it was inextricably bound up with I mean,

620
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<v Speaker 2>don't get me wrong, like the fact that there was

621
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<v Speaker 2>this racial war going on in the East. That absolutely

622
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<v Speaker 2>is a brutalizing effect. And once you cross that threshold

623
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<v Speaker 2>you can't not only can not go back from it,

624
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<v Speaker 2>but it also changes things, you know. And this is

625
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<v Speaker 2>also when that became clear. You know that the Allies

626
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:55.480
<v Speaker 2>intended to destroy Germany, you know, and it's okay, this

627
00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:59.920
<v Speaker 2>is an existential fight, and you know, the Jews have

628
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<v Speaker 2>openly declared war on us. And to be claire too,

629
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<v Speaker 2>whether you accept this or not, I mean not you personally,

630
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<v Speaker 2>I mean whether anybody accept this or not. Not just

631
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<v Speaker 2>Adolf Hitler, but the entirety of the German Reich leadership

632
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:22.360
<v Speaker 2>class really their military element. They viewed the world Jewish

633
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<v Speaker 2>population as a combatant actor. The fact that there wasn't

634
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<v Speaker 2>a Jewish national state didn't matter, you know. They viewed

635
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<v Speaker 2>him as a party combatant to hostilities. You know, So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to burn our cities to the ground

637
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:46.199
<v Speaker 2>and set fifty thousand women, kids and old people on fire.

638
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<v Speaker 2>When we find you in Belarus, we're going to kill

639
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<v Speaker 2>all of you and kick you into a ditch. I

640
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<v Speaker 2>mean that was the you know that that's pretty awful stuff,

641
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:06.199
<v Speaker 2>but you know that that was the mindset. That's uh

642
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:11.239
<v Speaker 2>the reality. You know, this stuff wasn't just spontaneous, and

643
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:16.280
<v Speaker 2>you know it's also and it's convoluted too because speaking

644
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:22.400
<v Speaker 2>of uh like speaking of Globok or Paul Global actually

645
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:28.239
<v Speaker 2>but uh, you know Global, it was claimed he was

646
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<v Speaker 2>responsible for the Bobby R massacre, like what was claimed

647
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:36.119
<v Speaker 2>that the casualties claimed at Bobby are that's literally not possible,

648
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:38.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, So, I mean there's all this you got

649
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:43.360
<v Speaker 2>to wade through this bullshit too gross, the exaggerator just

650
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:47.159
<v Speaker 2>crazy claims. So then that further convolutes the issue, and

651
00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:50.519
<v Speaker 2>that also encourages people to doubt the entirety of what happened,

652
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:57.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, and things like that. So they wanted to

653
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<v Speaker 2>mention uh, the low guy of that photograph to bring

654
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<v Speaker 2>it back the uh the Lublin district in the East, Glibashnik,

655
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Heidrich and Himmler himself. They had an idea of creating

656
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<v Speaker 2>German settlements and what was formerly Poland in Ukraine and

657
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:49.719
<v Speaker 2>then ultimately you know, uh Russia proper. You know, they

658
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:54.280
<v Speaker 2>wanted to create these settlement areas where s S Man

659
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<v Speaker 2>would be given a life fiefdom, like a life estate

660
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<v Speaker 2>and h you know, they they'd be this kind of

661
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<v Speaker 2>warrior yeo memory like the opponent, like de fact m Rhyn,

662
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<v Speaker 2>but of the Eastern frontier, you know, and they'd they'd

663
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<v Speaker 2>be this professional warrior element. But you know, they'd also

664
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<v Speaker 2>preside over these big agrarian of states and that would

665
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<v Speaker 2>be the bread basket of you know, Western Europe and

666
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<v Speaker 2>uh Veninsia. There's this que quadrilateral sort of territory bounded

667
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<v Speaker 2>by Lublin, zittomir Veninzia, and Levov. Each was a special

668
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<v Speaker 2>or a special each was There's a lot of s

669
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<v Speaker 2>S activity in particularly Einsts group and activity in each

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<v Speaker 2>of those low Guy and Lublin specifically, that was the

671
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<v Speaker 2>Glibashnik's headquarters the rights here S S. Himmler. His command

672
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<v Speaker 2>HQ was at Zamyr and during the first phase of

673
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:15.960
<v Speaker 2>first phase of Barbarossa, as the Wehrmacht made rapid advance.

674
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<v Speaker 2>There was a settlement center that Hitler set up for

675
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<v Speaker 2>German Ukrainians, you know, to basically corral the Ukrainian folks

676
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<v Speaker 2>Deutsch and give them first choice on where they wanted

677
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<v Speaker 2>to live, and you know, try and curate a vanguard

678
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:44.920
<v Speaker 2>population of Volkstutsch, you know, as the hostilities r under way,

679
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<v Speaker 2>to beef up security in the rear areas. But also,

680
00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:58.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Germans realized they were racing the clock

681
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<v Speaker 2>even if nbcy A get realized. In you know, December

682
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:07.119
<v Speaker 2>forty one, Carl Wolf wrote about this. You know, was

683
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<v Speaker 2>was SS adjuctant to Hitler. It was just an interesting

684
00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:16.360
<v Speaker 2>guy and he he is I if you come across interviews,

685
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:23.039
<v Speaker 2>one of which from around nineteen eighty one was really fascinating.

686
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:28.840
<v Speaker 2>But he he said some interesting stuff and he uh

687
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<v Speaker 2>he made the point that you know, everybody in the

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<v Speaker 2>control element around the fere and he was in a

689
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<v Speaker 2>position to know because I mean he was literally the

690
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:45.840
<v Speaker 2>SS adjutant to the theory realized we were racing the clock,

691
00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, and that's one of the reasons why the

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<v Speaker 2>the R s h A and the s D in

693
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<v Speaker 2>the Aisis group and became so active, you know, the uh.

694
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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the they kind of polish up the Polish

695
00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Ukrainian frontier for ethnic reasons, for geostrategic reasons, for reasons

696
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<v Speaker 2>that arable land, and because historically that was the heartland

697
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:24.119
<v Speaker 2>of folkstoutsch in the east. You know that this this

698
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:29.800
<v Speaker 2>all magnified the significance of this area. So that's that's

699
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<v Speaker 2>part of it too. And Glebashniks an interesting figure. He

700
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<v Speaker 2>was a bad guy like he uh. I mean I

701
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<v Speaker 2>mean that I'm not being judgmental in some petty stupid way.

702
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you need, you need bad guys to get

703
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:50.239
<v Speaker 2>things done at war. But he he was very much

704
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<v Speaker 2>a gangster. He murdered some guy, some jeweler in Vienna,

705
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:59.360
<v Speaker 2>and he was a wanted man. And the fact that

706
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<v Speaker 2>the National Socialists were at war with the Dolphus regime,

707
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:07.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they ended up murdering him, you know Dolphus. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's one of the things that kind of spared him

709
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<v Speaker 2>from being held to account for it. But you know,

710
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<v Speaker 2>he also uh, he got he he got in trouble

711
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<v Speaker 2>for graft and he actually he got I think he

712
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:29.920
<v Speaker 2>actually did time in a concentration camp for for for

713
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:35.599
<v Speaker 2>graft and theft. And Hidrake intervened to get him sprung

714
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<v Speaker 2>because you know, he was exactly the kind of man

715
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<v Speaker 2>one needed for this kind of duty. But yeah, it's

716
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<v Speaker 2>really interesting and uh thanks. Uh. I don't want to

717
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:49.840
<v Speaker 2>tell a good ghoul, but this this stuff's really in

718
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:54.199
<v Speaker 2>my wheelhouse, and especially because right now I'm it directly

719
00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:57.440
<v Speaker 2>tracks with the manuscript that I'm working on, so it's

720
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<v Speaker 2>the forefront of my mind. I saw that news a bit,

721
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I shout it out out some stuff about it on

722
01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:06.079
<v Speaker 2>social media. That's photograph, you know, and it's an upsetting photograph,

723
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:09.280
<v Speaker 2>you know. And I I realize it's probably not a

724
01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:12.679
<v Speaker 2>topic a lot of people what when I get into

725
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:14.880
<v Speaker 2>or think about over their lunch breef or something. But

726
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:19.159
<v Speaker 2>what it's important, and it's it's it's it's important not

727
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<v Speaker 2>just to people who have kind of esoteric interests and revisionism,

728
01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:30.440
<v Speaker 2>but it's important just in general terms to understand, you know,

729
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the the conceptual environment relating to the war and things

730
01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:36.079
<v Speaker 2>and as it evolves.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also not for I mean, most people aren't even

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01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:49.000
<v Speaker 1>equipped to study this because they've we the social engineering

733
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:54.679
<v Speaker 1>regime has made it so that talking about this is

734
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:59.239
<v Speaker 1>uncouth and you're yeah.

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01:00:59.440 --> 01:00:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

736
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<v Speaker 1>And also people just don't because of what we've been

737
01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:10.079
<v Speaker 1>taught for so long, you know, And the reality is

738
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<v Speaker 1>of modern warfare being basically from the sky and from

739
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:18.079
<v Speaker 1>drones and dropping bombs on people. This as foreigns everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>And also you're trying to you're trying to project American

741
01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:32.760
<v Speaker 1>values and you know, whatever American values are now upon

742
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:38.079
<v Speaker 1>something that happened eighty years ago, and you know, ninety

743
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:43.280
<v Speaker 1>years ago, that is a completely different world. And everybody

744
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:49.440
<v Speaker 1>just wants to judge something from the past through Oh,

745
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:52.480
<v Speaker 1>we're so much better than that now, and you know

746
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I would say, no, we're not, No.

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all. Yeah, And that's what you know, like

748
01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I said, in the kind of stuff, identical stuff. Albeit

749
01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:10.920
<v Speaker 2>again the the the rationale within the parameters of of

750
01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:15.159
<v Speaker 2>of the conflict were different, but you know, this kind

751
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:22.039
<v Speaker 2>of categorical homicide was the norm. Apparently it's okay if

752
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Israel does this, but you know that owing to you know,

753
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:32.800
<v Speaker 2>a special special dispensation. So no, it's very it's very dishonest,

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01:02:32.920 --> 01:02:35.440
<v Speaker 2>you know. And this, you know, like I said, I'm

755
01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:39.519
<v Speaker 2>not this stuff's important. That's why I I mean, I

756
01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:45.280
<v Speaker 2>basically dedicated my professional life to researching this now. And I,

757
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:47.800
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I wasn't trying to be a shill,

758
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:52.039
<v Speaker 2>but I I believe in this nnuscry of them writing.

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01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:54.679
<v Speaker 2>I think it's important. The subject matter is not an

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01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:59.440
<v Speaker 2>important and I appreciate having a chance to talk about it.

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01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:01.519
<v Speaker 2>And like I said, it was timely because that I

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<v Speaker 2>was fancy it too. By that facial recognition software identifying

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01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.599
<v Speaker 2>the man in the photograph, that's that's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it'd be interesting if we could use that to

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<v Speaker 1>identify some people in some Russian or Ukrainian photographs from

766
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the Bolshevik Times. And oh but I'm sorry you they

767
01:03:20.840 --> 01:03:24.559
<v Speaker 1>get a they get a pass because yeah you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so probably gonna be I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be flippant, but there's a does this This

770
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<v Speaker 2>is gonna make it harder for people to like run

771
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:43.400
<v Speaker 2>from their past if they've if they've done bad things.

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01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:47.840
<v Speaker 2>The guy captured on video or some girl made a

773
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:50.880
<v Speaker 2>mistake years back and did like some some squeezy porn

774
01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:54.760
<v Speaker 2>movie or something. I like, I'm not kidding this, this

775
01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:57.920
<v Speaker 2>does have potential. I guess. I guess the rebuttal people's

776
01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:03.639
<v Speaker 2>claim it's like deep fake or something, but it's I no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's got for historical research. That's it's tremendously useful,

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01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:14.559
<v Speaker 2>and it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna resolve uh something

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<v Speaker 2>during mysteries. Definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you, thank you for this, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I encourage everybody to go over to Thomas's substack. That's

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<v Speaker 1>real Thomas seven seven seven dot substack dot com and

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<v Speaker 1>to yeah, what's your the website again, what's the address

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<v Speaker 1>on the website.

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<v Speaker 2>It's uh it's Thomas seven seven seven dot com. Miss

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<v Speaker 2>number seven each on me seven seven seven dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>It was briefly down for like twenty four hours, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's up again, and there's my my newest contents like

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<v Speaker 2>posted up there. So yeah, check out the website. And

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<v Speaker 2>from the website, you should be able to navigate to

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<v Speaker 2>everywhere I'm at, you know, like Instagram, social media, you

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<v Speaker 2>know all that stuff. And yeah, I appreciate you hosting me, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's Thomas, thank you very much. Appreciate you