Speaker 1: And now Kevin Golden filling in for Brian Thomas on
Speaker 1: fifty five KOs the talk station.
Speaker 2: Four minutes after five o'clock. Surprise, I'm here again. Well,
Speaker 2: we had a little change in schedule around here, and
Speaker 2: so I got the call and if I could fill
Speaker 2: in today for Brian, and I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 2: If you went to my Facebook page, which you should
Speaker 2: on a regular basis, and if you're not, why not,
Speaker 2: you'll notice that the guests are a little bit slight today.
Speaker 2: I've got Dave Hatter coming up at six point thirty
Speaker 2: I believe if that's still on the schedule. We're kind
Speaker 2: of in a flux here. Of course, some of the
Speaker 2: guests that I talked to earlier, I guess that's to
Speaker 2: be determined whether or not they can make it. But
Speaker 2: for the most part, you're going to be dealing with
Speaker 2: me news and views for out most of the day,
Speaker 2: and you know, I'll get a few opinions in there,
Speaker 2: because as you know, I have an opinion, I'm not
Speaker 2: afraid to use it. We're seeing some information regarding those
Speaker 2: a bunch of things in the news as far as
Speaker 2: travel plans this weekend. There's some reports of some severe
Speaker 2: weather coming in, and if you're out and about and
Speaker 2: if you're going to be traveling, especially by air, you
Speaker 2: want to make sure and I'm sure if you're a
Speaker 2: seasoned traveler that you'll be aware that you need to
Speaker 2: check those listings, make sure that the flights are on time.
Speaker 2: You don't want to get to the airport and realize
Speaker 2: that it's been your flight's been canceled hours before. And
Speaker 2: this gives me an opportunity to talk about flying. It's
Speaker 2: been a long long time since I've flown.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I normally, if I'm going to travel, I don't travel.
Speaker 2: I would say probably within a five hour radius of
Speaker 2: the area. Don't do a lot of traveling, but when
Speaker 2: I do, it's usually by car, and I prefer by
Speaker 2: car because I can control when I can stop and
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom or see certain attractions along the
Speaker 2: way of making a little detour and going, hey, I
Speaker 2: wonder what that looks like, or I wonder what that
Speaker 2: little attraction would be like. Unless I'm on a time
Speaker 2: frame and I want to get from point A to
Speaker 2: point B. But I figure that by the time you drive,
Speaker 2: and in my case, it takes me probably about twenty
Speaker 2: five minutes to a half hour to get to the
Speaker 2: airport you part the car, probably by the time you
Speaker 2: get into the terminal itself is probably another fifteen to
Speaker 2: twenty minutes thereabouts. And then you're supposed to be at
Speaker 2: the airport an hour and a half to two hours
Speaker 2: ahead of time, and during the holidays, they once you
Speaker 2: be and people suggest you get there three hours ahead
Speaker 2: of time. So as I look at it, I could
Speaker 2: be three and a half hours into whatever trip I'm doing,
Speaker 2: And three and a half hours will get you from here,
Speaker 2: get you down to Nashville, get you up to Toledo,
Speaker 2: get you almost to get you up almost a way
Speaker 2: to Cleveland, You probably within striking distance of Pittsburgh. Certainly
Speaker 2: can get you to Columbus two hours away, Indianapolis, and
Speaker 2: so a lot of those areas that I go to,
Speaker 2: they're all within that three and a half to five
Speaker 2: hour radius. Five hours to gets you from here to Chicago.
Speaker 2: So by the time you get the delays at the
Speaker 2: airport and that the flight is delayed, then you get
Speaker 2: to your destination. You got to get when you get
Speaker 2: off the plane, even if you've got your rental car
Speaker 2: picked out ahead of time, and you can just go
Speaker 2: to the kiosk or if you got people picking you up.
Speaker 2: There's going to be the travel time from the airport
Speaker 2: to wherever you're going. And unless you rent a car,
Speaker 2: then you're going to be at the the whims of
Speaker 2: whoever you're with as to whether or not you're going
Speaker 2: to be able to go unless you want to do
Speaker 2: uber and all that. So I figure, excuse me, the
Speaker 2: flexibility of having the car with me, either renting a
Speaker 2: car or taking my car if you're going to be
Speaker 2: five and a half hours away, get rid of all
Speaker 2: the aggravation as far as the airports are concerned. Now,
Speaker 2: of course, I'm sure Delta and the rest of them
Speaker 2: don't like what I say there, But again, you hear
Speaker 2: all these horror stories around this time of the year.
Speaker 2: So plan ahead, make sure that you're cognizant of what's
Speaker 2: going on, and making sure that you call ahead of time. Now,
Speaker 2: if there's going to be weather conditions, obviously then the
Speaker 2: road conditions come into play, and you want to make
Speaker 2: sure that you plan ahead on that. You want to
Speaker 2: make sure that the road conditions are such that'll be
Speaker 2: safe travels, and as you're traveling, recognize the fact that
Speaker 2: there's going to be an awful lot of other people
Speaker 2: on the highway. I don't know what your particular expertise
Speaker 2: with driving skills would be, but there's an awful lot
Speaker 2: of people that are on the road that they generally
Speaker 2: aren't on the road. So it's kind of like rookie
Speaker 2: season if you will pay attention to what's going on.
Speaker 2: People are not driving as well as they used to.
Speaker 2: I call at the pandemic crazies because it seems like
Speaker 2: people forgot how to drive over COVID and then now
Speaker 2: there seems to be a lot more aggravation with people.
Speaker 2: They seem to be a little bit more aggressive behind
Speaker 2: the wheel. I'm sure you've seen that. If you've driven
Speaker 2: around a little bit, you notice how some people will
Speaker 2: be you know, even in a urban area like you know,
Speaker 2: Cincinnati greater since northern Kentucky speed limit on the freeways
Speaker 2: until you get out into the counties and a little
Speaker 2: bit further away from the cities, we're all fifty five
Speaker 2: miles per hour. And if you're going fifty five miles
Speaker 2: per hour on a lot of those freeways, you're almost
Speaker 2: standing still because people are passing you left and right.
Speaker 2: And what the experts will say is that it's not
Speaker 2: necessarily speed that kills its differential speed. So if you're
Speaker 2: going considerably slower than the rest of the traffic, you
Speaker 2: in effect are kind of an impediment to that traffic
Speaker 2: and could create an accident because if somebody comes roaring
Speaker 2: up on you, If somebody's doing seventy seven five miles
Speaker 2: an hour and they come up on somebody doing fifty five,
Speaker 2: that's going to be a problem. So keep pace with
Speaker 2: the traffic, make sure you're surroundings. If you're not very
Speaker 2: adapt at driving well, you know, put your head on
Speaker 2: a swivel a little bit and make sure you're aware
Speaker 2: of your surroundings. Also, when you're out on the highways,
Speaker 2: recognize the fact that when you are driving down the road,
Speaker 2: and yes, you get into traffic jams or heavy traffic,
Speaker 2: and it seems like the eighteen wheelers are the ones
Speaker 2: that are holding things up. But recognize, folks, that you're
Speaker 2: out celebrating, you're out having a good time, you're out
Speaker 2: visiting family and friends, and you're on vacation having a
Speaker 2: great time. And the people behind those wheels, they're not
Speaker 2: on vacation. They are working, they are the ones that
Speaker 2: are delivering the groceries to the store, the clothing to
Speaker 2: the shelves. Seventy percent of everything that you buy is
Speaker 2: brought to you buy a truck, it's brought to you
Speaker 2: at the retail level. Even if you buy off of Amazon,
Speaker 2: if you're buying online, the truckers still have to get
Speaker 2: that merchandise to the warehouse and then from the warehouse
Speaker 2: to a holding facility, and then the final mile vehicles,
Speaker 2: the UPS trucks or the Post office trucks then have
Speaker 2: to deliver that. But all of that merchandise is delivered
Speaker 2: by a truck, and so even if you're buying online,
Speaker 2: the trucking industry is involved, and so be a little
Speaker 2: courteous to the trucks out there. You see these public
Speaker 2: service announcements from time to time. Don't travel in the
Speaker 2: blind spot because when they have to change lanes, they
Speaker 2: put their turn signals on, and if you're in their
Speaker 2: blind spot, they can't see you. And you know that
Speaker 2: when you're driving down the road and you look in
Speaker 2: your rear view mirror or you look on your side mirrors,
Speaker 2: there are certain times when you have a certain blind
Speaker 2: spot there and you have to kind of look over
Speaker 2: your shoulder and make sure that there's nobody in that lane.
Speaker 2: In a truck, you can't do that. That's why they
Speaker 2: have those large side mirrors. But even there there are
Speaker 2: some blind spots. Aware of the surroundings. Be a little
Speaker 2: bit more courteous of the truckers out there. If you
Speaker 2: stop for gasoline and you go into the truck stop,
Speaker 2: or you go into the convenience store and you run
Speaker 2: into a trucker, do him a favor, say thank you
Speaker 2: for being out there, because they're out there instead of
Speaker 2: being with their friends. They're on the job. They're working,
Speaker 2: and they're bringing the merchandise to you. So be a
Speaker 2: little bit courteous out there. Be aware of what's going
Speaker 2: on on the highway, and everybody gets home safe because
Speaker 2: getting if you're out on the highway, getting home and
Speaker 2: getting home safe is job one. I got a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff going on today, not too much going on.
Speaker 2: The only guest we have is at six thirty I
Speaker 2: mentioned was is Dave Hatter. I always look forward, well,
Speaker 2: I kind of look forward to talking to Dave Hatter,
Speaker 2: But then I don't like talking to Dave Hatter, not
Speaker 2: because I don't like him. Dave is one of the
Speaker 2: nicest guys and one of the friend and he's very
Speaker 2: good at what he does, but man, he scares the
Speaker 2: hell out of you when he talks about all this
Speaker 2: cybersecurity and all the stuff that where people are trying
Speaker 2: to get into your devices, and how you can hang
Speaker 2: yourself up online and all the various land mines that
Speaker 2: are out there, and some of the things that you
Speaker 2: need to be aware of when you're out, when you're
Speaker 2: on the computer, and certain things you need to protect
Speaker 2: yourself and your family from any of these cybersecurity threats
Speaker 2: that are out there. Fishing and I'm sure you're aware
Speaker 2: of a lot of those fishing scams, but it's amazing
Speaker 2: how many of those are tripped up. They're getting better,
Speaker 2: the crooks are getting better at the disguising that they
Speaker 2: are putting out a phishing email, or they're getting very
Speaker 2: good at being making it look like it's an official
Speaker 2: text or an official email from a reputable company. But
Speaker 2: the bottom line is, if you're buying a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff online, and I run into this this Christmas season
Speaker 2: more than anything else. With my wife and I we've
Speaker 2: been per saying some things online. But you might want
Speaker 2: to make a list of everything that you just a
Speaker 2: handwritten on a note or maybe on a word document
Speaker 2: that items that you've purchased, and making sure that you
Speaker 2: know what is the method of that delivery going to be.
Speaker 2: Is it going to be UPS, is it going to
Speaker 2: be USPS, is it going to be any well, if
Speaker 2: it's coming from Amazon, whatever device or whatever transport mode
Speaker 2: of transportation is coming to you, make a list of
Speaker 2: that so that if you get an email that says,
Speaker 2: oh well, first of all, the post Office, how would
Speaker 2: they have your email address and send you an email
Speaker 2: that says we can't deliver this package to you because
Speaker 2: the address is wrong, And a lot of time United
Speaker 2: Postal Service they may not have that information as well.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you'll get a text that says that you've got
Speaker 2: a particular package that can't be delivered. Be aware of
Speaker 2: those things. Go to your list, make sure that oh, well,
Speaker 2: I don't have anything being delivered by UPS, or I
Speaker 2: don't have anything that's going to be coming from the
Speaker 2: Post Office, And so that'll save you a lot of
Speaker 2: bit of a whole bit of aggravation along those lines,
Speaker 2: and make sure that you're dealing with reputable companies when
Speaker 2: you go online and make sure that you're making your
Speaker 2: purchases from companies that aren't just there trying to steal
Speaker 2: your information. Phone numbers five one, three, seven, four nine,
Speaker 2: fifty five hundred one, eight hundred eight two three talk one,
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty two three eight two five five pound
Speaker 2: of five point fifty AT and T wireless phone. Kevin
Speaker 2: Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five KRC, The Talk Station,
Speaker 2: five nineteen in the morning. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas,
Speaker 2: fifty five KRC, The Talk Station. You know, I was
Speaker 2: reminded last night when I was flipping around the channels.
Speaker 2: Uh just I mentioned this on another program that I'm
Speaker 2: I'm on, and this, you know, the Corona Extra commercial
Speaker 2: that comes on every year where they have the island
Speaker 2: there on the peninsula. You have that cabana and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the lights come on on the
Speaker 2: palm tree and then the whistle about oh Christmas Tree,
Speaker 2: Oh Christmas Tree, and I thought, wow. The first time
Speaker 2: I saw that this season was this past weekend, which
Speaker 2: was kind of shocking because you know, the Christmas season
Speaker 2: has been going on for a long period, well at
Speaker 2: least the Christmas shopping season today being the third day
Speaker 2: of Christmas. And to explain that, I'll bring that up
Speaker 2: in a moment. But during the Christmas shopping season, you
Speaker 2: have all these different ads for Christmas, and one of
Speaker 2: the iconic ones is this Corona advertisement. And I thought,
Speaker 2: my goodness, that thing has been around for a long time.
Speaker 2: And I thought, well, gosh, how long that's been. And
Speaker 2: I looked it up and I found some interesting things
Speaker 2: about that. Is that that palm tree that commercial now
Speaker 2: is something it's about forty years old at this point.
Speaker 2: That first appeared back in nineteen ninety. The forty four
Speaker 2: years that that commercial has been going on, that is
Speaker 2: just absolutely phenomenal. And every time I see that commercial,
Speaker 2: that commercial seems fresh to me. It seems it's unexpected.
Speaker 2: It doesn't say much. It doesn't have the glitz, the glamour,
Speaker 2: the pyrotechnics, it doesn't have a lot of people. They're
Speaker 2: no actors, there's no dancing, there's no nothing. It's just
Speaker 2: a very basic scene with a palm tree and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden it lights up and somebody's whistling in
Speaker 2: the background doing the old Christmas tree song, and so
Speaker 2: the song, like I said, the commercial has been around
Speaker 2: for forty four years. And some interesting things about that
Speaker 2: is the fact that back in the day when they
Speaker 2: were trying to come up with this commercial, a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff, a lot of thought went into that. The
Speaker 2: person fell by the name of Mike Rogers who chose
Speaker 2: to shoot this commercial wanted to have some sort of
Speaker 2: an iconic that would blend in with the brand itself
Speaker 2: and with Corona being tied to Mexico and that. So
Speaker 2: he was looking for something around the Yucatan Peninsula and
Speaker 2: figured out a place where he could go for that.
Speaker 2: And the commercial even though it has and I didn't
Speaker 2: what I didn't know this until I read this article
Speaker 2: on it is the fact that it was obviously it
Speaker 2: was filmed in Mexico, and so it has this although
Speaker 2: it has this Florida flavor, but if you look off
Speaker 2: to the distance and you look behind the cabana there
Speaker 2: and then off to the side, you'll actually see some mountains,
Speaker 2: and that is unusual because obviously you don't have mountains
Speaker 2: in Florida. So what he did is that, you know,
Speaker 2: he wanted this scene and he wanted to have a
Speaker 2: Florida edge to it, but he found this scene in
Speaker 2: Mexico Yucatan Peninsula. He was able to find this location
Speaker 2: because he had been there on a family vacation. Said
Speaker 2: that it had been to Accamol, which is where this is.
Speaker 2: It's about two and a half hours south of one
Speaker 2: of the resorts there that he used to go to,
Speaker 2: especially where was that on here Aruba. He would go
Speaker 2: there occasionally. And so he found this location and decided
Speaker 2: to shoot this. And what is also interesting is that
Speaker 2: we don't usually equate alligators with Mexico. You usually take
Speaker 2: that into consideration with Florida. But where this location was
Speaker 2: where they chose to set up the shot. Apparently the
Speaker 2: cameraman was scared to death. Where they set the camera up,
Speaker 2: there was this school of alligators all swarming around, and
Speaker 2: they actually had to hire alligator wranglers to keep the
Speaker 2: alligators back. They had to get them out of the way.
Speaker 2: The cameraman jumped in there, set the shot and then
Speaker 2: ran for his life. And here we have this iconic commercial.
Speaker 2: And I just thought that was an interesting take. And
Speaker 2: again every year I see that commercial, it kind of
Speaker 2: signifies to me the beginning or we're at least in
Speaker 2: the Christmas season, and it's to me, it's as fresh
Speaker 2: today as it was years ago. It's still a very
Speaker 2: clean commercial, gets across their message and gets it away
Speaker 2: in a very novel way, and after forty four years,
Speaker 2: it's still relevant, which when you look at a lot
Speaker 2: of different products, when you look at the advertising campaigns
Speaker 2: that people spend millions and millions of dollars on on
Speaker 2: an annual basis. And sometimes I don't know about you,
Speaker 2: but a lot of times when I'll watch commercials and
Speaker 2: I will sit there and I'll go, you know, at
Speaker 2: the end of it, what were they selling? Because there's
Speaker 2: so much distraction within the commercial itself, I don't really
Speaker 2: know what they're selling or it's kind of a stupid
Speaker 2: commercial and it doesn't make any sense. So, uh, this
Speaker 2: commercial hits the nail on the head. And what they
Speaker 2: refer to this as the oh tannan palm commercial coming up,
Speaker 2: I get a little bit of Uh, let's step out
Speaker 2: here for a moment. Phone numbers five one, three, seven,
Speaker 2: four nine fifty, five hundred one, eight hundred eight two
Speaker 2: three talk one eight hundred eight two three eight two
Speaker 2: five five pound, five point fifty AT and T wireless
Speaker 2: phone Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRC
Speaker 2: The Talk Station, five point twenty nine in the morning.
Speaker 2: Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRC the
Speaker 2: Talk Station. Take a look at some local headline we're
Speaker 2: covering for you. I saw this earlier today out of Florence, Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Three men are being investigated after police say they stole
Speaker 2: a barbecue. Stole a barbecue restaurants cooking equipment on the
Speaker 2: night of Christmas. Mary freaking Christmas. There folks smoking this
Speaker 2: and smoking this and that barbecue in Florence. It's around
Speaker 2: eight pm on Wednesday, when men swipe their stuff. There's
Speaker 2: not any good day to steal from somebody, but at Christmas,
Speaker 2: that's kind of horrible. At eight oh five come and
Speaker 2: says that two men carry off this commercials meat slicer,
Speaker 2: and over the fifteen minute period frenzy they allegedly sold tents,
Speaker 2: food warmers and so on. So just you know, never,
Speaker 2: it never ceases to amaze me, how during certain times
Speaker 2: of the year when people will try to take advantage
Speaker 2: of other people, and especially around the Christmas season. We've
Speaker 2: seen a lot of reports over the last couple of
Speaker 2: weeks of these porch pirates. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: you saw the video, but it was pretty funny that
Speaker 2: there was a fellow. I don't know where this town was,
Speaker 2: but he went out and he bought a flat screen
Speaker 2: TV to replace obviously to replace the one that he had,
Speaker 2: and he thought, well, geez, what am I going to
Speaker 2: do with this flat screen TV? So instead of taking
Speaker 2: it or trying to find someplace to take it, he
Speaker 2: just put it back in the put it in the
Speaker 2: box that he just removed the new TV from, wrapped
Speaker 2: it up, put it on his porch, and set it
Speaker 2: out there for about a day and it got stolen. So,
Speaker 2: you know, I've seen these things a couple of times.
Speaker 2: I've heard of people that have taken gift wrapping or
Speaker 2: gift wrap packages and they put their garbage in it
Speaker 2: and then put that on they're you know, not stinky garbage,
Speaker 2: but garbage and put that on their back seats. And
Speaker 2: people have stolen that those packages and big surprise when
Speaker 2: they actually get home, and that not quite what you
Speaker 2: bargained for, according to police threats sent to homes of
Speaker 2: Ohio Republican lawmakers. Of course, the FBI is investigating this
Speaker 2: out of West Chester. The FBI is now investigating after
Speaker 2: several Republican lawmakers in Ohio received threatening letters. State Representative
Speaker 2: Jennifer Gross Westchester said she was one of the several
Speaker 2: Republican politicians targeted. Several House members and senators received envelopes
Speaker 2: from the from the same we've determined fake address of
Speaker 2: a person, and that has addressed to both us and
Speaker 2: the spouses of our private residences. According to Gross, in
Speaker 2: some of them there was let me see, in some
Speaker 2: around the state, Gross the envelopes contained wipe substance. In
Speaker 2: some of them there wasn't. There wasn't. But this is
Speaker 2: going back to years and years ago with those rice
Speaker 2: and envelopes that would go to Congress and right after
Speaker 2: nine to eleven, and we had those threats at the
Speaker 2: time of Terrorist Act, and they didn't know what was
Speaker 2: going to be going on, whether or not those were
Speaker 2: actual terrorist threats. And this is the whole thing has
Speaker 2: screwed things up. As far as you know, in the
Speaker 2: old days, you could send a letter to your congress
Speaker 2: member or senator, congressman, or somebody within the government, and
Speaker 2: now you have to rely on email or phone calls
Speaker 2: to their office, to their switchboard, because if you happen
Speaker 2: to send a letter to somebody that now, since nine
Speaker 2: to eleven, and since that Rice and Scare back in
Speaker 2: the beginning of two thousand and two thousand and one,
Speaker 2: all of those letters go to a holding facility until
Speaker 2: they are actually reviewed, looked at, investigated to see if
Speaker 2: they contain any substance. Then they are eventually forwarded onto
Speaker 2: the congressman or senator or wherever you're sending that to,
Speaker 2: and that can take up to two to three at
Speaker 2: least two weeks for that process to take place. So
Speaker 2: if you're sending a letter to a congressman or a
Speaker 2: senator based on a current piece of legislation that is
Speaker 2: coming up for a vote in a week, you're better
Speaker 2: off calling that switchboard. And I got to tell you
Speaker 2: from my experience calling those switchboards. We had a caller
Speaker 2: yesterday talk about that, the fact that if you want
Speaker 2: a piece of legislation passed, sometimes it's good to call
Speaker 2: the congressman or senator's office. Now you can call the
Speaker 2: congressional switchboard. They're very friendly, very accommodating. They'll only ask
Speaker 2: you some questions about where you live, and only because
Speaker 2: they can put you into the mailbox or the voicemail
Speaker 2: of your state representa or of your representative or your congressman,
Speaker 2: and so they make sure that the message gets there,
Speaker 2: and then you can give the message that you want.
Speaker 2: And of course, if you're sending messages now, you can
Speaker 2: send them to anybody. But I got to tell you
Speaker 2: that most congressmen and senators, they will pay attention to
Speaker 2: a certain extent, but if it's from a constituent, they
Speaker 2: sit up and take notice more often and in talking
Speaker 2: to them. If they receive phone calls or they receive
Speaker 2: emails to their office about twenty to thirty emails on
Speaker 2: a particular bill a lot of time, that gets their attention.
Speaker 2: And I know that at least with our Kentucky legislators
Speaker 2: that when they get about fifteen to twenty different comments
Speaker 2: from people, they do pay attention. And even though there
Speaker 2: may be a lot of lobbyists out there that are
Speaker 2: lobbying these senators and congressmen, their job won in most cases.
Speaker 2: There are a few exceptions that look out for the
Speaker 2: people to put the people first, but their name number
Speaker 2: one job is to get reelected. And if there's a
Speaker 2: lot of their constituents that are unhappy with a piece
Speaker 2: of legislation and they don't vote in the right way.
Speaker 2: That could cost them their jobs. So caeping in touch
Speaker 2: with their congressman senators is very important. So phone numbers
Speaker 2: five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty five, hundred one,
Speaker 2: eight hundred eight two three talk one, eight hundred eighty
Speaker 2: two three A two, five, five pound, five point fifty
Speaker 2: AT and T wireless phone. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas,
Speaker 2: fifty five K see the talk station fifty five the
Speaker 2: talk station.
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Speaker 2: Five thirty nine in the morning, Kevin Gordon in for
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas fifty five krs. The talk station phone numbers
Speaker 2: five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty, five hundred one,
Speaker 2: eight hundred A two three talk one eight hundred A
Speaker 2: two three eight A two five five pound, five point
Speaker 2: fifty AT and T wireless phone. It with this budget
Speaker 2: bill that was passed last week. Remember there was going
Speaker 2: to be this government shutdown and everybody was freaking out,
Speaker 2: and the cable news networks were all talking about, oh,
Speaker 2: you know what happens. And they always do this every
Speaker 2: year because as we see, Congress does not do their
Speaker 2: during the year. They always wait till the last minute
Speaker 2: to pass these appropriations bills to fund the government for
Speaker 2: the year. And as Thomas Massey has pointed out on
Speaker 2: my congressman from Northern Kentucky and talks about on this
Speaker 2: program numerous times with Brian, that each one of these
Speaker 2: bills is supposed to be passed individually. There's nine spending
Speaker 2: bills that are supposed to be passed. I see no
Speaker 2: reason and really, as he talks about, there's no reason
Speaker 2: that these that the Defense bill can't be a standalone
Speaker 2: bill and passed the agriculture bill can't be a standalone
Speaker 2: bill and passed. But no, when you combine all of
Speaker 2: these bills together and then when they start packing in
Speaker 2: this pork. We talked about the Festivus Report last week
Speaker 2: or yesterday, rather that Ran Paul puts out every year
Speaker 2: and talks about the waste, fraud, and abuse. The government
Speaker 2: Office of Management and Budget does the same thing every
Speaker 2: year where they come up with certain items that are
Speaker 2: wasteful spending as far as the federal government is concerned.
Speaker 2: And isn't it amazing? Two senators, one senator and one
Speaker 2: congressman from Kentucky are the people that are leading champions
Speaker 2: on trying to cut the deficit. Now, there are others
Speaker 2: in there, but some of theo at the forefront of
Speaker 2: this argument are Thomas Massey and Ran Paul. Now, in
Speaker 2: the Festivus Report, it was what over a trillion dollars
Speaker 2: in cost savings that could be done just by eliminating
Speaker 2: some of these programs that he points out in there. Now,
Speaker 2: when they get to these budget and they get to
Speaker 2: these last minute to continuing resolution or to fund the government,
Speaker 2: they're talking about the government shutting down and oh, you know,
Speaker 2: the welfare checks aren't going to go out, the Social
Speaker 2: Security checks aren't going to go out, the military isn't
Speaker 2: going to get paid, all these scare tactics that go on,
Speaker 2: and a year after year after year, they wait till
Speaker 2: the very last minute they wind up coming some sort
Speaker 2: of a compromise and kick the can down the road. Now,
Speaker 2: remember the fact that the budget, the new year for
Speaker 2: the congre or for the fiscal year of the United
Speaker 2: State the States, begins October first, So the approach, appropriation bills,
Speaker 2: and the spending should be in line before you start
Speaker 2: your new year. So now we're talking about October November
Speaker 2: to the middle of December, right before well almost the
Speaker 2: end of December, around Christmas time, when these bills have
Speaker 2: to be passed in order to keep the government afloat
Speaker 2: now three months. Can you imagine in your company not
Speaker 2: knowing what your budget's going to be for the coming year,
Speaker 2: not having your spending, not making sure that what you're
Speaker 2: going to be doing, what your operations are going to
Speaker 2: be doing, what your salesforce is going to be doing,
Speaker 2: any of that sort of stuff. You put that off
Speaker 2: until right before Christmas. You wouldn't have a business. And
Speaker 2: yet the federal government does this time and time again.
Speaker 2: And the dirty little secret when they start talking about
Speaker 2: all these poor government employees, they're not going to be
Speaker 2: well it's around Christmas time, so they're not going to
Speaker 2: be paid, and they're going to be without a paycheck. Well,
Speaker 2: you know, they're paid at the fifteenth and the thirtieth
Speaker 2: of the month. So the fact that this is towards
Speaker 2: the end of the month, and looking at how some
Speaker 2: of these bureaucrats are paid, I'm sure they're not sitting
Speaker 2: there waiting working paycheck to paycheck like a lot of
Speaker 2: us out there are doing, where the month is much
Speaker 2: longer than your paycheck. So I'm not feeling a whole
Speaker 2: lot of sympathy for that. But they also have the
Speaker 2: ability to go on unemployment, and they can file for
Speaker 2: unemployment because they're technically off the job. And then once
Speaker 2: the government opens back up if it's shut down for
Speaker 2: any period of time, their pay is retroactive. So the
Speaker 2: unemployment that they collect while they're off is basically a bonus.
Speaker 2: And so I'm sure there's a lot of the people
Speaker 2: that said, well, first of all, what are we seeing
Speaker 2: something like what are the number that I saw the
Speaker 2: other day. They were talking about that only on any
Speaker 2: given day, only ten percent of the employees are in
Speaker 2: any of these different offices, whether it be commerce department,
Speaker 2: labor department, any of these departments, only ten percent of
Speaker 2: the people are there. And then they say that, well,
Speaker 2: if you extract out of that the security, the maintenance people,
Speaker 2: the janitorial and other people like that that have to
Speaker 2: be there to maintain the presence, and there's only about
Speaker 2: four to six percent of the actual workers there. So
Speaker 2: all of these people are working from home anyway, and
Speaker 2: the amount of money that they are paid. They don't
Speaker 2: have to pay for commuting, they don't have to pay
Speaker 2: for the gas, they don't pay the wear and tear
Speaker 2: on their car. They don't have their hour or so
Speaker 2: tied up in traffic because traffic in Washington, DC can
Speaker 2: be a nightmare, So they don't have that aggravation. They
Speaker 2: don't have the parking hassles, they don't have the wardrobe
Speaker 2: that they need to have in order to go to
Speaker 2: the office on a regular basis. So their expenses have
Speaker 2: been cut down considerable, and no wonder a lot of
Speaker 2: them want to stay from home. But I wonder the efficiency,
Speaker 2: and I've talked to a lot of people that have
Speaker 2: worked from home and don't work from home, and it's
Speaker 2: interesting how the split is on that the percentage of
Speaker 2: people to say, I would much rather be in the office.
Speaker 2: I would much rather have that face to face, being
Speaker 2: able to talk to somebody about a project or something
Speaker 2: that you're working on, rather than the text, rather than
Speaker 2: the email, rather than the third party type of communications.
Speaker 2: That the face to face and getting a certain amount
Speaker 2: of camaraderie, a certain amount of personal interaction with the
Speaker 2: employees makes for a better workplace. And now there's some
Speaker 2: businesses I've talked to the people who are actually more
Speaker 2: productive being at home. But when you talk to a
Speaker 2: lot of people, they talk about how there's constant eruptions
Speaker 2: when they're at home. They're distracted about other things that
Speaker 2: need to be done, and so it's not as efficient.
Speaker 2: I say, get the government employees back to the office,
Speaker 2: get them back in there doing their jobs, and then
Speaker 2: see from there. And I've got a thought on how
Speaker 2: if they're you know, Vivek Ramaswami and Elon musk are
Speaker 2: trying to weed out some of the employees, I've got
Speaker 2: an idea how to do that. Coming up. I'm Kevin
Speaker 2: Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five KR. See the
Speaker 2: talk station five fifty two in the morning. Kevin Gordon
Speaker 2: in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KR. See the talk
Speaker 2: station five one, three, seven, four nine fifty five hundred one,
Speaker 2: eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred eighty
Speaker 2: two three eight two five five pound, five point fifty
Speaker 2: AT and T wireless phone. For the idea of you know,
Speaker 2: they're talking about the waste fraud abuse in the government.
Speaker 2: They're talking about trying to streamline the government, trying to
Speaker 2: see what employees are unproductive and can lay them off.
Speaker 2: I mean number one, and you can start off with
Speaker 2: just look at the snow days, look at the emergency days,
Speaker 2: and when you look at the people that when they
Speaker 2: say that only the necessary workers show up, that would
Speaker 2: be a good start right there, because if somebody is
Speaker 2: not necessary for the functioning that maybe that would be
Speaker 2: a person that could not be in for the day.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a job that could be eliminated. Also, one
Speaker 2: of the things that has been brought up over the
Speaker 2: last couple of years is that what about having some
Speaker 2: of these departments being moved out of Washington, DC and
Speaker 2: into the heart of the country. Now you can have
Speaker 2: obviously the secretary of those particular cabinet positions, those departments,
Speaker 2: and some administrative staff there in Washington because of having
Speaker 2: to go to testify at congressional hearings or because they
Speaker 2: need to attend meetings with the President. But does the
Speaker 2: entire Energy Department need to be washed working out of Washington,
Speaker 2: d C. Maybe they should be near where the energy
Speaker 2: is produced. How about maybe Texas, how about Oklahoma somewhere
Speaker 2: in that neighborhood. How about the Department of Agriculture. How
Speaker 2: about moving that out to the agricultural belt. Maybe Nebraska,
Speaker 2: somewhere Iowa, somewhere where crops are grown and the majority
Speaker 2: of the crops are are are grown, is what I'm
Speaker 2: trying to say. How about the Transportation Department? Should the
Speaker 2: Transportation Department be more centrally located? Say pick the spot,
Speaker 2: what is it? Something like there's like a town about
Speaker 2: one hundred miles away from Saint Louis, Missouri, which is
Speaker 2: the actual center of the country. And there are an area,
Speaker 2: there are several areas where you have major highways that
Speaker 2: all come through a certain area. You know, you look
Speaker 2: at the greater insane Northern Kentucky area. When you have
Speaker 2: I seventy one seventy five I've coming together. You have
Speaker 2: ICE seventy and I seventy one hooking up at certain points.
Speaker 2: Know how far over I seventy go, how Interstate forty goes.
Speaker 2: You can pick a spot where in the middle of
Speaker 2: the country where a lot of these roads come together,
Speaker 2: east west, north south, and maybe put the Department of
Speaker 2: Transportation there. Obviously, if you put that along the Mississippi
Speaker 2: River or in Saint Louis or somewhere along those lines,
Speaker 2: maybe hey, even in Cincinnati, you've got the barge traffic,
Speaker 2: you've got rail traffic, You've got Mississippi River with the
Speaker 2: barge traffic. There, have the Transportation Apartment closer to that.
Speaker 2: How about anything having to obviously, anything having to do
Speaker 2: with the defense. You've got the Pentagon there, But where
Speaker 2: there are some large military bases or wherever out in
Speaker 2: the middle of the country, maybe put the Department of
Speaker 2: Defense out there. How About as far as the Commerce Department,
Speaker 2: picking a area such as maybe close to maybe New
Speaker 2: York because of the stock market or the commodities market
Speaker 2: in Chicago, and do it there. Any of these departments
Speaker 2: can be moved out of the areas, and if the
Speaker 2: people don't want to move there, then that's a great
Speaker 2: way of saying, oh well, thank you very much, sin Arra,
Speaker 2: thank you very much for your service, and go on
Speaker 2: about your life. So it'd be interesting to see if
Speaker 2: this takes hold, how much it could be weeded out
Speaker 2: that way. Coming up, we're gonna be talking about a
Speaker 2: couple of other I've got the word of the day
Speaker 2: and I'm going to tease you with that. Duncle Fluata,
Speaker 2: Duncle Fluata. I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty
Speaker 2: five k SEE the Talk Station.
Speaker 1: And now Kevin Golden filling in for Brian Thomas on
Speaker 1: fifty five KOs the Talk Station.
Speaker 2: Five minutes after six o'clock and surprise, I'm back. I
Speaker 2: wasn't scheduled to be in here this morning, but got
Speaker 2: the phone call and I'm glad to be here because
Speaker 2: you know, I love being on the radio. I love
Speaker 2: spending time with you, and I love listening to the
Speaker 2: callers and talking about the issues of the day because,
Speaker 2: as you know, I have an opinion and I'm not
Speaker 2: afraid to use it. Coming up at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the hour, are going to be talking to my friend
Speaker 2: of mine and friend of the station here, friend of
Speaker 2: the show Dave Hatter, cybersecurity expert, expert, Cincinnati's premier cybersecurity expert.
Speaker 2: We've been talking about things that, well, you know, the
Speaker 2: things to scare the heck out of us during the
Speaker 2: day and the things that you know. I love talking
Speaker 2: to him, but he scares the heck out of me.
Speaker 2: So anyway, we've got that going up and really don't
Speaker 2: have any other guests other than you, me and the
Speaker 2: telephones and talk about some of the issues. Now. I
Speaker 2: want to bring this up in a couple of seconds here,
Speaker 2: but I want to get to the phone calls first.
Speaker 2: But last week when the Congress, I was talking about
Speaker 2: this in the previous hour about how Congress waited till
Speaker 2: the last minute again and uh didn't do their job
Speaker 2: in passees appropriations bill. But one of the things that
Speaker 2: have been bouncing around Washington for a number of years,
Speaker 2: actually going on almost two and a half years now
Speaker 2: is this bill called am Radio for every car, and
Speaker 2: so we'll be talking about that coming up. Let's get
Speaker 2: to the phones right now. By the way, phone numbers
Speaker 2: are five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred
Speaker 2: one eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred
Speaker 2: eight two three eight two five five pound, five point
Speaker 2: fifty AT and T wireless phone. So let's get to Evelyn, Evelyn,
Speaker 2: fifty five case. How are you this morning?
Speaker 9: Oh, well, I'll be you worried about everything, but about
Speaker 9: the topic of perhaps moving some of the agencies out
Speaker 9: of Washington. Yes, all I could hit all I can picture.
Speaker 9: I mean, it's probably in the long run necessary, But
Speaker 9: all I could picture is they would decide they needed
Speaker 9: to have new facilities built for them, you know, and
Speaker 9: they would be even more elaborate and secure. And so
Speaker 9: I don't see where we could just you know, gain
Speaker 9: any anything from moving moments, because it would probably cost
Speaker 9: billions to do that.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the things that they can do is
Speaker 2: that as a result of what we've seen from the pandemic,
Speaker 2: there's an awful lot of retail space, an awful lot
Speaker 2: of buildings that are not fully occupied currently. There are
Speaker 2: a lot of office buildings that have not been well,
Speaker 2: in some cases fifty percent vacant at this point because
Speaker 2: a lot of people are still working from home and
Speaker 2: they haven't pushed people coming back to work. That may change,
Speaker 2: but there is an awful lot of vacancy rate around
Speaker 2: the country. And if you're doing this, and you do
Speaker 2: it in a reasonable fashion, you can build some of
Speaker 2: these buildings and they don't have to be as tremendously elaborate,
Speaker 2: they don't have to be as fancy as some of
Speaker 2: the buildings in Washington. But the buildings in Washington are
Speaker 2: extremely expensive and expensive to maintain. And what you have
Speaker 2: is kind of this permanent bureaucracy in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2: Where they have somewhat more of a liberal mind, if
Speaker 2: you will. And so when you look at the surrounding
Speaker 2: areas Washington, d C. I think, what is it. The
Speaker 2: percentage of votes that go to Republicans in the city
Speaker 2: of Washington, DC is like ten percent of the vote.
Speaker 2: Ninety percent is done for the Democrats out in the
Speaker 2: suburbs where a lot of the federal workers work or live.
Speaker 2: That is where a lot of these pockets of Democratic
Speaker 2: voters are and kind of skews the election results in
Speaker 2: Maryland and is Virginia and the surrounding areas. So breaking
Speaker 2: that up a little bit wouldn't be a bad deal,
Speaker 2: but it would have to be looked at and have
Speaker 2: to be done in an organized fashion. Make sure that
Speaker 2: you find some of the locations in some of these
Speaker 2: cities that have been decimated by the pandemic where they're
Speaker 2: not in the office, and just go about it that way,
Speaker 2: in a more organized fashion, so to speak.
Speaker 9: That was expensive to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll see. It'll be interesting to see. Thank
Speaker 2: you very much for the phone call, Evlon, I certainly
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Let's get to Linda, Linda fifty five Krose,
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling. How are you today?
Speaker 10: Hey, I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 2: Very good? Very good?
Speaker 10: Happy New Year? And I just have a couple of questions.
Speaker 10: One is what do they do with the buildings in Washington?
Speaker 10: And those are enormous, Yeah, and I told Jim maybe
Speaker 10: we would house the illegals in them. Any questions, what
Speaker 10: are we going to do about offices? But we'll get
Speaker 10: Elon Musk to make a whole bunch of tiny homes
Speaker 10: and we'll put those all over the country and that
Speaker 10: can be their office. They don't need much now.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's all kinds of options on the table,
Speaker 2: and I know there's some things that we can do
Speaker 2: that they're kind of funny about that. But we have
Speaker 2: all these offices in Washington, d C. And a lot
Speaker 2: of them. I mean, if they're sitting empty, they're not
Speaker 2: really doing anybody any good. We're spending a lot of
Speaker 2: money maintaining those, and maybe move some of these jobs,
Speaker 2: these Washington DC jobs, out of Washington, and then the
Speaker 2: need for those buildings wouldn't be there, and the amount
Speaker 2: of money to maintain those aren't there because that's very
Speaker 2: expensive to live there and live in that area. So
Speaker 2: I don't know. At least at least the ideas should
Speaker 2: be thrown on the table and all things should be discussed.
Speaker 2: You know, in most businesses, when you have a problem,
Speaker 2: people get together and they discuss all discuss all the
Speaker 2: various options. Rather than just doing the same thing over
Speaker 2: and over and over again, once in a while it's
Speaker 2: necessary to kind of shake things up and say, okay
Speaker 2: about thinking about this, thinking about that, how about trying this,
Speaker 2: trying that. And it's amazing some of the stuff that
Speaker 2: comes up.
Speaker 10: I agree with you, I really do, and I do
Speaker 10: think it's something we should look at. It just hit me,
Speaker 10: you know, those you've been there, Those buildings are enormous
Speaker 10: and whether they're in there or not, somebody's going to
Speaker 10: maintain them. So somebody's going to address that before we say, okay,
Speaker 10: we move everybody out, right, I mean, I know they're
Speaker 10: not there now, right. Make it go back to work first.
Speaker 2: That's a first step, and maybe you weed out a
Speaker 2: lot of the employees that may not want to go
Speaker 2: back to work, want to do that commute, and so
Speaker 2: then you kind of thin the herd that way as well.
Speaker 2: So I and I really, you know, kind of on
Speaker 2: a different subject, I think you saw probably a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago that Biden has put forth some sort
Speaker 2: of contract with these federal workers where they can stay
Speaker 2: living or working from home for the next four years
Speaker 2: or something along those lines. I don't know that that's
Speaker 2: something that could actually be done by the White House
Speaker 2: or a contract. I think since that's kind of an
Speaker 2: appropriation bill that possibly should be passed by Congress, and
Speaker 2: so if the bill didn't come through Congress, I don't
Speaker 2: know that that's enforceable, and that could be broken. Also
Speaker 2: the fact that anything that Biden has negotiated, anything, any
Speaker 2: executive order that he's signed pretty much since the day
Speaker 2: he took office, should be under review because the fact
Speaker 2: that his mental capabilities haven't been there and they've been
Speaker 2: covering up for him who's been running the show. It's illegal,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's treason us that you have somebody else
Speaker 2: making the decision, in my opinion, other than the president.
Speaker 2: And so I think we need a whole investigation as
Speaker 2: to what's been going on over the last four years here.
Speaker 10: I think investigations are good if we have the right
Speaker 10: people doing on this. Yes, of course President Trump is
Speaker 10: putting a bunch of good people in there.
Speaker 2: That's for sure.
Speaker 10: Anyway, call your congress people, keep on them, you bet.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And we got another one to talk to about
Speaker 2: coming up, this AM Radio for Every Car and I'll
Speaker 2: talk about that coming up. Lenda, Thank you so much,
Speaker 2: certainly appreciate the phone call before we go. Well, we
Speaker 2: got a couple of minutes here. As part of this,
Speaker 2: you know, this continuing resolution and this funding of the government,
Speaker 2: there was a bill in there AM Radio for Every
Speaker 2: Car now on the show that I do on WLW
Speaker 2: America's trucking network. That bill came up almost well in
Speaker 2: May of twenty twenty three. And what was happening at
Speaker 2: the time is that these car manufacturers that have the
Speaker 2: electric vehicles. They were finding that the AM waves interfere
Speaker 2: with the efficiency of the battery, and vice versa, the
Speaker 2: waves from the battery itself for the automobile interfere with
Speaker 2: the radio signal. Now there is a quick fisk fix
Speaker 2: to that. There is a from what I understand, a
Speaker 2: very ineff an expensive block or panel that could be
Speaker 2: put in there that it doesn't cost a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Because when this started being talked about and people started
Speaker 2: thinking about this, there wasn't all this pushback that oh, well,
Speaker 2: this is gonna do. This is going to be very
Speaker 2: difficult to do. It's going to add you know, ten
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to the cost of the vehicle. It may
Speaker 2: add you know, I didn't see any estimates, but if
Speaker 2: they're not squawking about it, it can't be more than
Speaker 2: a couple of hundred bucks. So the fact that nobody's
Speaker 2: squawking about this, it's just an easy thing. If you
Speaker 2: just don't have to do it, you don't do it,
Speaker 2: and rather than solving the problem, you just do away
Speaker 2: with the problem. Now the importance of that is, of
Speaker 2: course the liberals would like that to happen, because AM
Speaker 2: radio is the bastion of conservative talk. And we know
Speaker 2: liberals do not like conservative talk. They've been trying to
Speaker 2: kill Fox News for how long, They've tried to kill
Speaker 2: AM radio ever since Rush Limbaugh came on the scene
Speaker 2: and brought back AM radio to the force that it
Speaker 2: is today. And because of the you know, obviously the
Speaker 2: liberals don't have I mean, they have control of NPR, PBS, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN,
Speaker 2: and all the alphabets out there. They have control of
Speaker 2: most of the major newspapers, and so anything that they
Speaker 2: can squash as far as conservative content, they would want
Speaker 2: to do that. And because AM radio has been a
Speaker 2: very important component of conservative talk and religious radio, it's
Speaker 2: been a target of the left. And so the killing
Speaker 2: this or not putting these AM radios in cars is very,
Speaker 2: very appealing to liberals. However, in the event of an
Speaker 2: emergency like what we experienced with Milton and Helene, the
Speaker 2: way of communicating with people very quickly is through AM radio.
Speaker 2: And those signals for AM radio can go out of
Speaker 2: seven hundred miles and you can get it in tunnels,
Speaker 2: you can get it in buildings, and when you've got
Speaker 2: a natural disaster. When you have an emergency, that is
Speaker 2: the best means of communication. And to take that out
Speaker 2: of a radio as people are out of a car,
Speaker 2: as people are traveling down the highway, I think that
Speaker 2: puts people at risk. So we'll talk a little bit
Speaker 2: about this coming up, because this legislation needs to be passing.
Speaker 2: As Linda mentioned, call your congressman, call your senators, get
Speaker 2: them on board with this, because the ground swell, the grassroots,
Speaker 2: begins with you and me. Phone numbers five one, three, seven,
Speaker 2: four nine, fifty, five hundred one, eight hundred eight two
Speaker 2: three talk one eight hundred eight two three A two
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Speaker 2: Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRS the
Speaker 2: Talk Station. Six twenty one in the morning, Kevin Gordon
Speaker 2: in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRC the Talk Station. Now,
Speaker 2: I mentioned this earlier that before the break that this
Speaker 2: AM radio for every car is extremely important. Not only
Speaker 2: is it important from the standpoint of getting the word
Speaker 2: out in the event of an emergency, but also from
Speaker 2: the standpoint of where has been a lot of the
Speaker 2: talk about conservative thought could be coming from and it's
Speaker 2: been AM radio. And when you look at the balance
Speaker 2: of the coverage in this last election, when you see
Speaker 2: that the major news outlets, as I refer to them,
Speaker 2: the spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media, the propaganda
Speaker 2: arm of the DNC. When ninety five percent of the
Speaker 2: coverage of Donald Trump was negative and ninety three percent
Speaker 2: or more was positive having to do with Kamala Harris,
Speaker 2: then you know that the balance shift of this balance
Speaker 2: of power. Now the MAINSTA media is losing their influence.
Speaker 2: They have basically lost all credibility. They have lost a
Speaker 2: lot of their actually, to a large extent, even their
Speaker 2: influence because people have been tuning them out, they've not
Speaker 2: been watching them. Their ratings are not the greatest, and
Speaker 2: even now once the election is over, their ratings have tanked.
Speaker 2: You've seen some of the reports where their ratings are
Speaker 2: down forty fifty percent. Talking about CNN being spun off
Speaker 2: into a separate company. Once the premiere news network, the
Speaker 2: people were the network where people used to go for
Speaker 2: their news, how they started going downhill? You remember the
Speaker 2: days when people used to refer them as a Clinton
Speaker 2: news network. So this has been going on for a
Speaker 2: long period of time, MSNBC, the Comcast is talking about
Speaker 2: splitting them off and jettising them. So there's going to
Speaker 2: be a rude awakening as far as a lot of
Speaker 2: these major news outlets are concerned. And if you I'm
Speaker 2: a little bit more prone to go to those websites
Speaker 2: or to those news outlets now that the election is over.
Speaker 2: Before the election, I just couldn't stand the constant drum
Speaker 2: beat and all the lies that were going on. Now
Speaker 2: it's kind of funny to tune in to see how
Speaker 2: they keep trying to cover themselves, trying to make excuses
Speaker 2: for their coverage, and the fact that the nonsense that
Speaker 2: they're bringing up about how to criticize this incoming administration.
Speaker 2: They still don't get the idea that this was a
Speaker 2: extremely unique circumstance. Nowhere in the history of this country
Speaker 2: has something like this, a phenomenon like this happened. The
Speaker 2: amount of people that are in support of Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: the fact that he's coming in with not only the presidency,
Speaker 2: but the House and the Senate and a right leaning
Speaker 2: if you will, and not all the time Supreme Court,
Speaker 2: that things could be very interesting if they do it right,
Speaker 2: and if the House and Senate can stay combined if
Speaker 2: they can stay together, and you know, get together when
Speaker 2: they can. Now, obviously, on certain ideological issues, I can
Speaker 2: understand standing up and taking a stance. But for the
Speaker 2: good of what has to be done in order to
Speaker 2: turn this country around, sometimes some of the things that
Speaker 2: may be a little bit impalatable and palatable to talk
Speaker 2: about or to vote for may be necessary. But looking
Speaker 2: forward to this incoming administration coming up bottom of the arp, well,
Speaker 2: I'll sell you what can we can we squeeze into? John? Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, John, how are you this morning? They know
Speaker 2: if you can squeeze in before the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 11: I thinks, appreciate it. I know you're busy, but real
Speaker 11: quick here. So I lived in Cincinnati, you know, I
Speaker 11: listen to your radio station. It's kind of wean on
Speaker 11: your radio station exactly by what you're talking to another
Speaker 11: AM radio station. So I now basically live in Saint John's, Florida,
Speaker 11: And it's funny should bring this up. I cannot get
Speaker 11: an AM station between here and Jacksonville, all the way
Speaker 11: to Orlando. I can't get an AM station any place,
Speaker 11: not one none.
Speaker 2: On your land based radio radio. Car radio really I'm like.
Speaker 11: Not one AM station will come up. It's so great
Speaker 11: because I have been thinking about this for like the
Speaker 11: past three weeks. Not one AM station will come up
Speaker 11: on my search vand or anything. The only kind of
Speaker 11: talk radio I might get, you can't it's nothing like this.
Speaker 11: It's like WOKV out of Jacksonville, which is one oh
Speaker 11: five point four, but it's nowhere like you can't call it.
Speaker 11: I mean, it's just the weather and basics, and it
Speaker 11: is somewhat conservative. But no AM stations, whatsever No call
Speaker 11: in stations, no interact nothing.
Speaker 2: That's sounds like an It sounds like a market ready
Speaker 2: to be tapped down there, it seems to me because I'm.
Speaker 11: That's what I was thinking, exactly, or a market that's
Speaker 11: been shut down one or the other.
Speaker 2: I'll have to look into that. That that's curious. Make
Speaker 2: that now you've got me curious. I am. I'm curious
Speaker 2: about that. I'm very curious about that. Well, John, thank
Speaker 2: you very much. At least you're living in the lap
Speaker 2: of well, at least you're living in paradise down there. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we've got Dave Hatter standing by what we're talking to him.
Speaker 2: When we get back I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian
Speaker 2: Thomas fifty five krs the talk station, six thirty one
Speaker 2: in the morning. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty
Speaker 2: five krs the talk station. Joining me is my friend
Speaker 2: Dave Hatter. How are you this morning?
Speaker 12: My friend, good Kevin, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: Very good? Very good? Dave Hatter, of course everybody's familiar
Speaker 2: with is Cincinnati's premier security cybersecurity expert. And uh, you
Speaker 2: got the scare of the day or the scare of
Speaker 2: the week. I was telling everybody earlier. I said, you know,
Speaker 2: I love talking to Dave because he's a friend and
Speaker 2: he's a very interesting guy. But Manny scares the hell
Speaker 2: out of me. So I guess that.
Speaker 12: I hate to always be the Deemsday guy. Kevin, you know,
Speaker 12: but sadly, you know, everything is digital now. We spend
Speaker 12: a dollar time online, we bank online, we shop online, and
Speaker 12: the criminals know this. The even bigger threat is because
Speaker 12: everything is digital now, all these systems are interconnected. You know,
Speaker 12: all your critical infrastructure is controlled by this stuff. So again,
Speaker 12: I really do hate to be the Deemsday guy, but
Speaker 12: it's so important. You know, people are losing tens of
Speaker 12: thousands of millions of dollars individually. Companies are going out
Speaker 12: of business. And then there's again the larger societal threat
Speaker 12: of you know, knocking out water plants and things like that.
Speaker 12: And this isn't just old deems date Dave's theory. You
Speaker 12: get people like the FBI that have been warning about
Speaker 12: this for some time. So, yeah, sadly that's where we're at.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm sure you've heard it before. The
Speaker 2: difference between a conspiracy and fact is time.
Speaker 12: Yeah, sadly, that seems to be increasingly true, Kevin, Yes,
Speaker 12: you know. And here's scare of the day. Here's one
Speaker 12: for you. Now, I've found this story and this guy
Speaker 12: is pretty well known cybersecurity expert, a guy named Brian Krabs.
Speaker 12: He has a blog. I encourage people to check it
Speaker 12: out because he'll find these kind of stories and out them.
Speaker 12: And it's really important for folks to understand that while
Speaker 12: I fully get people say, come on, Dave, this will
Speaker 12: never happen to me. I don't have anything we're stealing,
Speaker 12: my business is too small, or I'm just one person,
Speaker 12: And you have to understand that the bad guys are
Speaker 12: very smart, very creative, very devious. They're usually not thinking
Speaker 12: h today, I think I'll try to steal all Kevin
Speaker 12: Gordon's money or all Dave Hatter's money. Let's put you know,
Speaker 12: Dave Hatter's company out of business. They're looking for low
Speaker 12: hanging fruit type opportunities. They work at scale, you know,
Speaker 12: things are automated. They're using scanning tools to just go
Speaker 12: out and scan what they can find, and then if
Speaker 12: there's a vulnerability deep to exploit it. But this particular
Speaker 12: story is really one that gets to the heart of
Speaker 12: what most of this crime evolves around. Now, another well
Speaker 12: known security expert, a guy named Bruschneier, a cryptography guy,
Speaker 12: very well known, and he has a great quote I'm
Speaker 12: going to paraphrase herea I can never get it quite
Speaker 12: right unless I read it. But basically, the bad guys,
Speaker 12: I mean, they will attack your systems. You know, they'll
Speaker 12: try to find flaws in your systems and exploit those.
Speaker 12: But that's a lot harder to do generally than using
Speaker 12: spoofing and social engineering. Couple with a bushing its mission
Speaker 12: to catch people off guard and get into the systems
Speaker 12: through human error rather than trying to hack the system itself.
Speaker 12: I mean it's certainly no matter happens. But that's a
Speaker 12: lot more difficult, right. And this Brian krab story, here's
Speaker 12: the headline, how to lose a fortune with just one
Speaker 12: bad click, and he points out two different stories of
Speaker 12: people who had similar types of theft. Now this involves cryptocurrency,
Speaker 12: but let me just say, even if you don't have
Speaker 12: cryptocurrency or don't even know what cryptocurrency is, it doesn't
Speaker 12: mean they couldn't use these same techniques to get to
Speaker 12: your bank account. So in this case, the guy who
Speaker 12: lost five hundred thousand dollars at crypto and it involved
Speaker 12: in elaborate scam where the bad guys use legitimate Google tools.
Speaker 12: But this is not a called Google. Although I'm not
Speaker 12: a big Google fan, kem. You know, they use any
Speaker 12: any site that has these kind of capabilities. They've used
Speaker 12: the form on a Google website where and a form
Speaker 12: meaning like you can set up a form and send
Speaker 12: it to someone and have them go in data and
Speaker 12: capture It's fairly common. People do this all the time.
Speaker 12: It's a great way to capture information online. And I
Speaker 12: don't know how much time we got left in the segment, because.
Speaker 2: Talk about thirty seconds or so Dave Hatter and want
Speaker 2: to take a break now and pick it up on
Speaker 2: the other side, do a little tease.
Speaker 12: Why do we take a break? Yeah, and I'll finish
Speaker 12: the rest of the story.
Speaker 2: Then, very good. My guess is Dave Hatter very good
Speaker 2: friend of mine. Love talking to him, but hate talking
Speaker 2: to him at the same time. Since the premier is
Speaker 2: security expert, I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty
Speaker 2: five kresee the Talk station six thirty eight in the morning.
Speaker 2: Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fits five kresee the
Speaker 2: Fox station and continue our conversation with Since as cybersecurity expert,
Speaker 2: Dave Hatter got a one bad click cost somebody about
Speaker 2: five hundred thousand dollars, So you previate this. This is scary.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it is pretty scary Kevin. And again even you know,
Speaker 12: I encourage people go read this Tom Cell. The headline
Speaker 12: is how to lose a fortune with just one bad click?
Speaker 12: And I'll put this on my notes for the show
Speaker 12: when I posted this stuff. Brian crabs he's a pretty
Speaker 12: well known internationally right now security expert. But he goes
Speaker 12: into a lot of detail here and again even if
Speaker 12: you have no crypto currency, even if you do know
Speaker 12: a little crypto currency is The techniques the bad guys
Speaker 12: use in this paricular attack could be used on anyone.
Speaker 12: So they use a Google form and first off one
Speaker 12: of the things they did, and again this is easily done.
Speaker 12: Google has a variety of products and this is not
Speaker 12: again the slam on Google. There are other companies that
Speaker 12: offer these same sort of free online products to create forms.
Speaker 12: You know, Let's say Kevin and I wanted to invite people.
Speaker 12: I just want to do a simple office survey or something,
Speaker 12: but I don't want to build a specific software applications
Speaker 12: for it. Well I could use these online forms to
Speaker 12: do it. So it starts out where he gets a
Speaker 12: call right now. Google is quoted in here, and you
Speaker 12: can find many examples of this online Google, Microsoft, Apple.
Speaker 12: These people are not going to call you. I noticed.
Speaker 12: I'm sure shocking you, Kevin, But I tell people this
Speaker 12: all the time. You try to call Apple or Google
Speaker 12: or Microsoft and see if you can get them the
Speaker 12: answer the phone. They are not going to call you
Speaker 12: as an individual and say, oh, there's some sort of
Speaker 12: fraud on your account. That is not going to happen Okay, so,
Speaker 12: but the bad guys are smart and they use the
Speaker 12: side be spoofing. It's very easy to spoof create a bonus,
Speaker 12: you know, call from a legitimate phone number. If I
Speaker 12: can go to Google's website or whomever and find a
Speaker 12: phone number, there are tools that will allow me to
Speaker 12: make a call from that phone number, just like I
Speaker 12: can send an email that looks like it came from
Speaker 12: any email.
Speaker 2: We get those all the time, all the spam phone
Speaker 2: calls and these marketers, you get those all the time.
Speaker 12: Yeah. Yes, that's the same kind of concept. But these
Speaker 12: guys took it one step further. They actually used a
Speaker 12: Google service and made a call that came from a
Speaker 12: number that when this guy looked it up, it looked
Speaker 12: like it was a Google phone number. Okay, wow, this
Speaker 12: was using something called Google Assistant. Again, they're smart, right,
Speaker 12: they're trying to create that air of authenticity. They're trying
Speaker 12: to catch you off guard, some sort of urgent thing
Speaker 12: you need to attend to. So he gets a call
Speaker 12: and then you know, basically he they tell him, you know,
Speaker 12: some blah blah blah saying, and then you know he's skeptical,
Speaker 12: which is what the right thing to do. The right
Speaker 12: thing is always be skeptical, take a brad, slow down,
Speaker 12: think about what's happening, and remember these big companies are
Speaker 12: going to call you. So then he gets an email. Okay,
Speaker 12: So they use Google Forms to basically send him an
Speaker 12: email where they completed the form, but it came from
Speaker 12: a Google email address. So again they're trying to cover
Speaker 12: their tracks with this air of authenticity by using legitimate
Speaker 12: tools to send messages through Google. Less likely they get
Speaker 12: caught by spam filters and creates that extra air of authenticity.
Speaker 12: Now they've got him concerned, then they send him some
Speaker 12: push notifications for his MSA, They take over his email account,
Speaker 12: they get into his coin base account, they steal five
Speaker 12: hundred thousand crypto. I mean, that's the short version of it.
Speaker 12: There's a lot more detail in here.
Speaker 2: But the point I actually in this it was he
Speaker 2: made the phone call to the return to the phone call, right.
Speaker 2: He was polite, patient, professional, reassuring. Told guy by the
Speaker 2: name of Ashton told Griffin he was going to receive
Speaker 2: a notification, allow and regain control of his accounts. It's
Speaker 2: just it's amazing the elaborate detail that these people go
Speaker 2: to and like you said, this is an important thing
Speaker 2: to read. It's a very long article, but it's still
Speaker 2: a lot of good information.
Speaker 12: It really goes into a lot of detail. And again
Speaker 12: my point is, even if you have no crypto, they
Speaker 12: could use this same kind of technique on you to
Speaker 12: get to your bank account or wherever your money iss.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 12: They're common, they're organized, they're smart, they know how to
Speaker 12: use these tools to create that air of legitimacy. So
Speaker 12: if Google calls you, if Apple calls you, or any
Speaker 12: of these big companies, just assume it's a scam. And
Speaker 12: then if you feel like you just simply must go further.
Speaker 12: Don't use any phone numbers they gave you, don't use
Speaker 12: any links they send you. Go to Google dot com,
Speaker 12: go to Microsoft dot com or wherever, and you then
Speaker 12: use that's the legitimate site that you instance you initiated,
Speaker 12: and go from there. Anything that you get sent could
Speaker 12: be bogus, could be spoofed, and they'll lead you down
Speaker 12: a rabbit hole like this and steal your money if
Speaker 12: you make it easy.
Speaker 2: Order absolutely well. And you know, I'm sure you've talked
Speaker 2: about this with Brian before about I've seen where I've
Speaker 2: been getting periodically. That doesn't happen very often, but I'll
Speaker 2: get a text that says, this is the USPS and
Speaker 2: we have a package we can't deliver. The addresses is incorrect,
Speaker 2: or from US Postal Service or UPS United, you know
Speaker 2: parcel service where you get those contacts. Sometimes you get
Speaker 2: an email from those and I think, you know, it's
Speaker 2: important to know who you're buying from, who you bought from,
Speaker 2: maybe keep a list of it, and how these packages
Speaker 2: are being delivered because it looks legitimate, and you say, well,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, I didn't order anything, so how the
Speaker 2: heck can they be not delivering a package because of
Speaker 2: a bad address because I didn't order anything. So that's
Speaker 2: a little easy. But if you're doing a lot of
Speaker 2: online buying, I can see how people will be tripped
Speaker 2: up by that. I don't think that any post office
Speaker 2: is going to all you, although that I did that
Speaker 2: was weird because we did have a situation. I probably
Speaker 2: shouldn't say this, but the post Office actually did. I
Speaker 2: don't know how they got my wife's phone number, but
Speaker 2: actually did call and there was a problem with the delivery.
Speaker 2: But you know, if it's if you don't trust it,
Speaker 2: let the thing go back and then the seller will
Speaker 2: contact you and say, hey, this was returned undeliverable you know.
Speaker 12: So yeah, those kinds of fake delivery notifications happen year round,
Speaker 12: but they usually accelerate around the Christmas holidays when they
Speaker 12: know more people are shopping online, they know people are
Speaker 12: anxiously waiting for gifts and so forth. Again, so much
Speaker 12: of this kevin is really social engineering. It's not technical
Speaker 12: at all. I mean, yes, they're using technology and technological
Speaker 12: tools to reach you, but it's it's stooping. It's social engineering.
Speaker 12: It's trying to catch you up guard. It's trying to
Speaker 12: play on the you know, a sense of urgency fear,
Speaker 12: something that you wouldn't do if you just step back
Speaker 12: and said, that doesn't really seem legit.
Speaker 2: Yes, you got to take as you mentioned before, you
Speaker 2: got to take that deep breath, Dave Hatter, because if
Speaker 2: you take that deep breath, then it'll give you you know,
Speaker 2: it's just like an impulse by. You know, if you
Speaker 2: go to the store and there's something there that is
Speaker 2: supposed to be an impulse by, you think twice about
Speaker 2: sakaish store, I really need that, and then you pass
Speaker 2: it up. Some of these fishing scams and some of
Speaker 2: these fake accounts. Sometimes you got to do that. And
Speaker 2: as you said, make sure you call the individual company,
Speaker 2: not the phone number they presented, but see if you
Speaker 2: can get a phone number from that particular company. So
Speaker 2: all great advice on that. You mentioned that you don't
Speaker 2: use and I know we've talked about this before, but
Speaker 2: for people that are not familiar with it. You say
Speaker 2: that you don't like Google and you don't use Google, Well,
Speaker 2: what search engine do you use? Or search engines?
Speaker 12: Should I say? Yeah, that's a good question, Kevin. Actually
Speaker 12: I have an article on my LinkedIn blog. I'll put
Speaker 12: that in the notes to conveniently what I'm using from
Speaker 12: my personal technology, because you know, what we're doing for
Speaker 12: interest is different than what I'm doing personally. But yeah,
Speaker 12: what my advice to people would be, whenever possible, avoid
Speaker 12: these companies where you are their product, not their customer.
Speaker 12: You know, all tech companies are collecting your data to
Speaker 12: some extent, but you know the business model of people
Speaker 12: like Alphabet which is the parent company at Google, and Meta,
Speaker 12: which is the parent company of Facebook, is you are
Speaker 12: their product, right, It's your data. So I tend to
Speaker 12: prefer more privacy and security friendly companies. You know, Duck
Speaker 12: dot Go, start Page, Brave has a good search engine
Speaker 12: out and a lot of people will get confused because
Speaker 12: Google makes Chrome, the web browser, and Google makes the
Speaker 12: Google search engine. These are two different things, right, You
Speaker 12: could use Chrome with any search engine like the Brave
Speaker 12: search engine. Brave also makes a web browser. Web browser
Speaker 12: is the software that allows you to view web pages
Speaker 12: over the internet, right, and then a search engine is
Speaker 12: a platform that's design to allow you to find things
Speaker 12: on the Internet. So the two are connected, but they're
Speaker 12: not the same. Again, Google makes Chrome. I would recommend
Speaker 12: instead a browser like Firefox or Brave, or if you're
Speaker 12: on the Apple platform, it's Afari browser. And then again
Speaker 12: as far as search engine, mojiq, start Page, Brave, I'm
Speaker 12: liking the Brave search engine more and more. Duck Ducto,
Speaker 12: these are all, I mean, their business model is different,
Speaker 12: generally more privacy friendly than Google. I would suggest, you know,
Speaker 12: stop using Gmail, that's the Google product, use something like
Speaker 12: proton Mail. But yeah, I'll put that out there because
Speaker 12: I've got a list of all fantastic I use some
Speaker 12: of my personal stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, fantastic people can take a look at great TeV
Speaker 2: because you know, a lot of these things that we
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, you've talked about them before, and
Speaker 2: if people haven't been paying it or haven't listened in before,
Speaker 2: it's good kind of go back and refresh on some
Speaker 2: of that. You got another thing that we need to
Speaker 2: talk about, twelve cybersecurity can scams of Christmas twenty twenty four, correct,
Speaker 2: and we can talk about that coming umber. All right,
Speaker 2: we'll get to that when we come. My guest Dave
Speaker 2: had Or, cybersecurity expert, the premiere cybersecurity expert in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: Dave Hatter. It's my guest, Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas,
Speaker 2: fifty five KR. See the talk station coming up on
Speaker 2: six point fifty two in the morning. Kevin Gordon in
Speaker 2: for Brian Thomas fits five KR. See the talk station
Speaker 2: continuing our conversation with since an premier and cyber security expert,
Speaker 2: Dave Hatter. Dave, we've got well, you see about three
Speaker 2: minutes left here, got another story here, twelve cybersecurity scams
Speaker 2: of Christmas. And by the way, thank you for being
Speaker 2: with us today.
Speaker 12: Yeah, my pleasure. Haven't always good to chat with you.
Speaker 12: So this was a little blog post I put together
Speaker 12: right before the holidays, but everything in it is it's
Speaker 12: evergreen stuff that all ramps up, like the delivery notification
Speaker 12: scams you've mentioned in the last segment, which I talked
Speaker 12: about in here. You know again, I'll post a link
Speaker 12: to this. It's on my LinkedIn blog. I'm easy to
Speaker 12: find out there on LinkedIn or x and you know,
Speaker 12: constantly trying to share this sort of stuff so that
Speaker 12: people can avoid these things. But you mentioned the delivery
Speaker 12: notification I get those. I'm sure every one of your
Speaker 12: listeners has seen these, and I just want to our
Speaker 12: mind folks again. Fishing, spoofing, social engineering altogether, it's hard
Speaker 12: to look at the text and know whether it's legitimate
Speaker 12: or not. And as more people use text, you couple
Speaker 12: with that with the fact that it's difficult to know
Speaker 12: whether it's legit, it's it's the perfect tool for scammers.
Speaker 12: If you get the notification telling you the package is
Speaker 12: delayed or whatever, just ignore it. And if you're concerned,
Speaker 12: then you go to the retailer where you think you
Speaker 12: bought something. You know, you log into their system, you
Speaker 12: look at the status of the order, you get the
Speaker 12: tracking numbers from them. And then you go to ups
Speaker 12: dot you know co exactly you have. You know, you
Speaker 12: go to the legitimate website with that tracking number. Don't
Speaker 12: click the links, don't call those numbers. As we discussed
Speaker 12: in the first segment, in many cases, these scammers have
Speaker 12: call centers set up and they're waiting for your call.
Speaker 12: They're going to pretend to be ever whoever they need
Speaker 12: to be. They're going to tell you whatever lies they
Speaker 12: need to say. I don't know if we've talked about
Speaker 12: this or not, but it will help people understand. There's
Speaker 12: a guy named Kit that's what he goes by. He's
Speaker 12: got a YouTube channel ki T b O g a
Speaker 12: dot com and he just scams these scammers. But he
Speaker 12: films it all and it's not only funny, but it's
Speaker 12: very insightful because you see the lies and how they'll
Speaker 12: pivot and say or do anything to try to get
Speaker 12: to your money. So you know that fake delivery notification
Speaker 12: is a big one. Social media gift exchange where it's
Speaker 12: some kind of pyramid scam and you send the gift
Speaker 12: and you're gonna get more gifts, you know, Kevin, the
Speaker 12: bottom line is and so I know we're almost out
Speaker 12: of time. If it seems too good to be true,
Speaker 12: it probably is. These big companies aren't going to call
Speaker 12: you the deal seems too good to be true. Then
Speaker 12: you go to the site you know it's a Target
Speaker 12: or Deal or Amazon or whatever. Don't click the links,
Speaker 12: don't call the numbers in an email or text or
Speaker 12: anything you got social media, all of that is easily spookable.
Speaker 12: You go to Target dot com or Amazon dot com
Speaker 12: or wherever, and then you know, start digging into there.
Speaker 12: That's by far the easiest and best way to ensure
Speaker 12: that you don't end up getting scammed, because again, these guys,
Speaker 12: they go where the people are. They're smart, the debis,
Speaker 12: they're creative, and you know they will use whatever techniques
Speaker 12: they can to try to get to your money, no
Speaker 12: matter whether you're an individual or corporation. So be careful out.
Speaker 2: There, Dave. I'd be willing to bet that if you
Speaker 2: had a dollar for every time you said deal's too
Speaker 2: good to be true, you'd be retired by now and
Speaker 2: living someplace else other than the greater Cincinnati area, probably
Speaker 2: own an island somewhere somewhere. War Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 12: Do you know I understand how people get caught up
Speaker 12: in this especially around the holidays. You know you're looking
Speaker 12: for that oft the gift. The timer's kicking, you have
Speaker 12: a deadline, and you just got to understand these people
Speaker 12: are very smart and they will tell.
Speaker 2: You any lie exactly. Well, David, it was great talking
Speaker 2: to you. We haven't run into each other in a while,
Speaker 2: and there's about time though for a while. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: way too long, but always appreciate talking you. Always appreciate
Speaker 2: meeting you when we're out and about and it's always
Speaker 2: a good time talking to you. And you're a great
Speaker 2: guy and this fan and a lot of great knowledge
Speaker 2: and I appreciate your time here on Tech Tech Friday,
Speaker 2: so always my pleasure. Have yourself happy new Year, be
Speaker 2: safe out there, and thank you so much for the information.
Speaker 12: Yeah, thanks Kevin, having new Year to you and your
Speaker 12: family and all your listeners.
Speaker 2: All righty, thank you so much. Dave Hatters, Since's cybersecurity expert.
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