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<v Speaker 1>And now Kevin Golden filling in for Brian Thomas on

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five KOs the talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>Four minutes after five o'clock. Surprise, I'm here again. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a little change in schedule around here, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I got the call and if I could fill

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<v Speaker 2>in today for Brian, and I'm glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>If you went to my Facebook page, which you should

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<v Speaker 2>on a regular basis, and if you're not, why not,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll notice that the guests are a little bit slight today.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got Dave Hatter coming up at six point thirty

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<v Speaker 2>I believe if that's still on the schedule. We're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of in a flux here. Of course, some of the

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<v Speaker 2>guests that I talked to earlier, I guess that's to

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<v Speaker 2>be determined whether or not they can make it. But

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, you're going to be dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>me news and views for out most of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I'll get a few opinions in there,

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<v Speaker 2>because as you know, I have an opinion, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>afraid to use it. We're seeing some information regarding those

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of things in the news as far as

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<v Speaker 2>travel plans this weekend. There's some reports of some severe

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<v Speaker 2>weather coming in, and if you're out and about and

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to be traveling, especially by air, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to make sure and I'm sure if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>seasoned traveler that you'll be aware that you need to

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<v Speaker 2>check those listings, make sure that the flights are on time.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to get to the airport and realize

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<v Speaker 2>that it's been your flight's been canceled hours before. And

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<v Speaker 2>this gives me an opportunity to talk about flying. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been a long long time since I've flown.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I normally, if I'm going to travel, I don't travel.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say probably within a five hour radius of

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<v Speaker 2>the area. Don't do a lot of traveling, but when

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<v Speaker 2>I do, it's usually by car, and I prefer by

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<v Speaker 2>car because I can control when I can stop and

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<v Speaker 2>go to the bathroom or see certain attractions along the

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<v Speaker 2>way of making a little detour and going, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder what that looks like, or I wonder what that

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<v Speaker 2>little attraction would be like. Unless I'm on a time

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<v Speaker 2>frame and I want to get from point A to

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<v Speaker 2>point B. But I figure that by the time you drive,

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<v Speaker 2>and in my case, it takes me probably about twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes to a half hour to get to the

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<v Speaker 2>airport you part the car, probably by the time you

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<v Speaker 2>get into the terminal itself is probably another fifteen to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes thereabouts. And then you're supposed to be at

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<v Speaker 2>the airport an hour and a half to two hours

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of time, and during the holidays, they once you

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<v Speaker 2>be and people suggest you get there three hours ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of time. So as I look at it, I could

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<v Speaker 2>be three and a half hours into whatever trip I'm doing,

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<v Speaker 2>And three and a half hours will get you from here,

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<v Speaker 2>get you down to Nashville, get you up to Toledo,

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<v Speaker 2>get you almost to get you up almost a way

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<v Speaker 2>to Cleveland, You probably within striking distance of Pittsburgh. Certainly

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<v Speaker 2>can get you to Columbus two hours away, Indianapolis, and

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<v Speaker 2>so a lot of those areas that I go to,

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<v Speaker 2>they're all within that three and a half to five

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<v Speaker 2>hour radius. Five hours to gets you from here to Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>So by the time you get the delays at the

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<v Speaker 2>airport and that the flight is delayed, then you get

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<v Speaker 2>to your destination. You got to get when you get

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<v Speaker 2>off the plane, even if you've got your rental car

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<v Speaker 2>picked out ahead of time, and you can just go

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<v Speaker 2>to the kiosk or if you got people picking you up.

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<v Speaker 2>There's going to be the travel time from the airport

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<v Speaker 2>to wherever you're going. And unless you rent a car,

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<v Speaker 2>then you're going to be at the the whims of

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<v Speaker 2>whoever you're with as to whether or not you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to go unless you want to do

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<v Speaker 2>uber and all that. So I figure, excuse me, the

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<v Speaker 2>flexibility of having the car with me, either renting a

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<v Speaker 2>car or taking my car if you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>five and a half hours away, get rid of all

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<v Speaker 2>the aggravation as far as the airports are concerned. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, I'm sure Delta and the rest of them

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<v Speaker 2>don't like what I say there, But again, you hear

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<v Speaker 2>all these horror stories around this time of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>So plan ahead, make sure that you're cognizant of what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on, and making sure that you call ahead of time. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if there's going to be weather conditions, obviously then the

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<v Speaker 2>road conditions come into play, and you want to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that you plan ahead on that. You want to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that the road conditions are such that'll be

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<v Speaker 2>safe travels, and as you're traveling, recognize the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be an awful lot of other people

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<v Speaker 2>on the highway. I don't know what your particular expertise

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<v Speaker 2>with driving skills would be, but there's an awful lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people that are on the road that they generally

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<v Speaker 2>aren't on the road. So it's kind of like rookie

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<v Speaker 2>season if you will pay attention to what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>People are not driving as well as they used to.

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<v Speaker 2>I call at the pandemic crazies because it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>people forgot how to drive over COVID and then now

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<v Speaker 2>there seems to be a lot more aggravation with people.

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<v Speaker 2>They seem to be a little bit more aggressive behind

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<v Speaker 2>the wheel. I'm sure you've seen that. If you've driven

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<v Speaker 2>around a little bit, you notice how some people will

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<v Speaker 2>be you know, even in a urban area like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati greater since northern Kentucky speed limit on the freeways

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<v Speaker 2>until you get out into the counties and a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit further away from the cities, we're all fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>miles per hour. And if you're going fifty five miles

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<v Speaker 2>per hour on a lot of those freeways, you're almost

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<v Speaker 2>standing still because people are passing you left and right.

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<v Speaker 2>And what the experts will say is that it's not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily speed that kills its differential speed. So if you're

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<v Speaker 2>going considerably slower than the rest of the traffic, you

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<v Speaker 2>in effect are kind of an impediment to that traffic

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<v Speaker 2>and could create an accident because if somebody comes roaring

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<v Speaker 2>up on you, If somebody's doing seventy seven five miles

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and they come up on somebody doing fifty five,

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be a problem. So keep pace with

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<v Speaker 2>the traffic, make sure you're surroundings. If you're not very

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<v Speaker 2>adapt at driving well, you know, put your head on

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<v Speaker 2>a swivel a little bit and make sure you're aware

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<v Speaker 2>of your surroundings. Also, when you're out on the highways,

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<v Speaker 2>recognize the fact that when you are driving down the road,

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<v Speaker 2>and yes, you get into traffic jams or heavy traffic,

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<v Speaker 2>and it seems like the eighteen wheelers are the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that are holding things up. But recognize, folks, that you're

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<v Speaker 2>out celebrating, you're out having a good time, you're out

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<v Speaker 2>visiting family and friends, and you're on vacation having a

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<v Speaker 2>great time. And the people behind those wheels, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>on vacation. They are working, they are the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>are delivering the groceries to the store, the clothing to

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<v Speaker 2>the shelves. Seventy percent of everything that you buy is

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<v Speaker 2>brought to you buy a truck, it's brought to you

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<v Speaker 2>at the retail level. Even if you buy off of Amazon,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're buying online, the truckers still have to get

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<v Speaker 2>that merchandise to the warehouse and then from the warehouse

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<v Speaker 2>to a holding facility, and then the final mile vehicles,

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<v Speaker 2>the UPS trucks or the Post office trucks then have

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<v Speaker 2>to deliver that. But all of that merchandise is delivered

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<v Speaker 2>by a truck, and so even if you're buying online,

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<v Speaker 2>the trucking industry is involved, and so be a little

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<v Speaker 2>courteous to the trucks out there. You see these public

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<v Speaker 2>service announcements from time to time. Don't travel in the

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<v Speaker 2>blind spot because when they have to change lanes, they

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<v Speaker 2>put their turn signals on, and if you're in their

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<v Speaker 2>blind spot, they can't see you. And you know that

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<v Speaker 2>when you're driving down the road and you look in

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<v Speaker 2>your rear view mirror or you look on your side mirrors,

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<v Speaker 2>there are certain times when you have a certain blind

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<v Speaker 2>spot there and you have to kind of look over

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<v Speaker 2>your shoulder and make sure that there's nobody in that lane.

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<v Speaker 2>In a truck, you can't do that. That's why they

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<v Speaker 2>have those large side mirrors. But even there there are

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<v Speaker 2>some blind spots. Aware of the surroundings. Be a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more courteous of the truckers out there. If you

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<v Speaker 2>stop for gasoline and you go into the truck stop,

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<v Speaker 2>or you go into the convenience store and you run

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<v Speaker 2>into a trucker, do him a favor, say thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for being out there, because they're out there instead of

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<v Speaker 2>being with their friends. They're on the job. They're working,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're bringing the merchandise to you. So be a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit courteous out there. Be aware of what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on on the highway, and everybody gets home safe because

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<v Speaker 2>getting if you're out on the highway, getting home and

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<v Speaker 2>getting home safe is job one. I got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff going on today, not too much going on.

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<v Speaker 2>The only guest we have is at six thirty I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned was is Dave Hatter. I always look forward, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of look forward to talking to Dave Hatter,

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<v Speaker 2>But then I don't like talking to Dave Hatter, not

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't like him. Dave is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>nicest guys and one of the friend and he's very

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<v Speaker 2>good at what he does, but man, he scares the

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<v Speaker 2>hell out of you when he talks about all this

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<v Speaker 2>cybersecurity and all the stuff that where people are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get into your devices, and how you can hang

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<v Speaker 2>yourself up online and all the various land mines that

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<v Speaker 2>are out there, and some of the things that you

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<v Speaker 2>need to be aware of when you're out, when you're

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<v Speaker 2>on the computer, and certain things you need to protect

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and your family from any of these cybersecurity threats

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<v Speaker 2>that are out there. Fishing and I'm sure you're aware

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of those fishing scams, but it's amazing

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<v Speaker 2>how many of those are tripped up. They're getting better,

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<v Speaker 2>the crooks are getting better at the disguising that they

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<v Speaker 2>are putting out a phishing email, or they're getting very

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<v Speaker 2>good at being making it look like it's an official

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<v Speaker 2>text or an official email from a reputable company. But

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom line is, if you're buying a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff online, and I run into this this Christmas season

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<v Speaker 2>more than anything else. With my wife and I we've

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<v Speaker 2>been per saying some things online. But you might want

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<v Speaker 2>to make a list of everything that you just a

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<v Speaker 2>handwritten on a note or maybe on a word document

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<v Speaker 2>that items that you've purchased, and making sure that you

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<v Speaker 2>know what is the method of that delivery going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it going to be UPS, is it going to

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<v Speaker 2>be USPS, is it going to be any well, if

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<v Speaker 2>it's coming from Amazon, whatever device or whatever transport mode

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<v Speaker 2>of transportation is coming to you, make a list of

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<v Speaker 2>that so that if you get an email that says,

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<v Speaker 2>oh well, first of all, the post Office, how would

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<v Speaker 2>they have your email address and send you an email

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<v Speaker 2>that says we can't deliver this package to you because

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<v Speaker 2>the address is wrong, And a lot of time United

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<v Speaker 2>Postal Service they may not have that information as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you'll get a text that says that you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a particular package that can't be delivered. Be aware of

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<v Speaker 2>those things. Go to your list, make sure that oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have anything being delivered by UPS, or I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have anything that's going to be coming from the

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<v Speaker 2>Post Office, And so that'll save you a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a whole bit of aggravation along those lines,

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<v Speaker 2>your information. Phone numbers five one, three, seven, four nine,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five KRC, The Talk Station. You know, I was

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<v Speaker 2>Uh just I mentioned this on another program that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>that comes on every year where they have the island

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<v Speaker 2>there on the peninsula. You have that cabana and then

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<v Speaker 2>palm tree and then the whistle about oh Christmas Tree,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Christmas Tree, and I thought, wow. The first time

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<v Speaker 2>least the Christmas shopping season today being the third day

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<v Speaker 2>of Christmas. And to explain that, I'll bring that up

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<v Speaker 2>in a moment. But during the Christmas shopping season, you

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<v Speaker 2>my goodness, that thing has been around for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought, well, gosh, how long that's been. And

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<v Speaker 2>about that. Is that that palm tree that commercial now

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<v Speaker 2>That first appeared back in nineteen ninety. The forty four

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<v Speaker 2>years that that commercial has been going on, that is

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<v Speaker 2>just absolutely phenomenal. And every time I see that commercial,

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<v Speaker 2>that commercial seems fresh to me. It seems it's unexpected.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't say much. It doesn't have the glitz, the glamour,

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<v Speaker 2>the pyrotechnics, it doesn't have a lot of people. They're

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<v Speaker 2>no actors, there's no dancing, there's no nothing. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a very basic scene with a palm tree and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden it lights up and somebody's whistling in

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<v Speaker 2>for forty four years. And some interesting things about that

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff, a lot of thought went into that. The

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<v Speaker 2>and with Corona being tied to Mexico and that. So

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<v Speaker 2>he was looking for something around the Yucatan Peninsula and

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<v Speaker 2>figured out a place where he could go for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And the commercial even though it has and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>what I didn't know this until I read this article

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<v Speaker 2>on it is the fact that it was obviously it

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<v Speaker 2>was filmed in Mexico, and so it has this although

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<v Speaker 2>it has this Florida flavor, but if you look off

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<v Speaker 2>to the distance and you look behind the cabana there

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<v Speaker 2>and then off to the side, you'll actually see some mountains,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is unusual because obviously you don't have mountains

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida. So what he did is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Florida edge to it, but he found this scene in

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico Yucatan Peninsula. He was able to find this location

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<v Speaker 2>because he had been there on a family vacation. Said

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<v Speaker 2>that it had been to Accamol, which is where this is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about two and a half hours south of one

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<v Speaker 2>of the resorts there that he used to go to,

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<v Speaker 2>especially where was that on here Aruba. He would go

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<v Speaker 2>to shoot this. And what is also interesting is that

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<v Speaker 2>we don't usually equate alligators with Mexico. You usually take

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<v Speaker 2>that into consideration with Florida. But where this location was

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<v Speaker 2>where they chose to set up the shot. Apparently the

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<v Speaker 2>cameraman was scared to death. Where they set the camera up,

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<v Speaker 2>there was this school of alligators all swarming around, and

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<v Speaker 2>they actually had to hire alligator wranglers to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>alligators back. They had to get them out of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>The cameraman jumped in there, set the shot and then

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<v Speaker 2>ran for his life. And here we have this iconic commercial.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just thought that was an interesting take. And

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<v Speaker 2>again every year I see that commercial, it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>signifies to me the beginning or we're at least in

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<v Speaker 2>the Christmas season, and it's to me, it's as fresh

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<v Speaker 2>today as it was years ago. It's still a very

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<v Speaker 2>clean commercial, gets across their message and gets it away

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<v Speaker 2>in a very novel way, and after forty four years,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still relevant, which when you look at a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of different products, when you look at the advertising campaigns

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<v Speaker 2>that people spend millions and millions of dollars on on

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<v Speaker 2>an annual basis. And sometimes I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of times when I'll watch commercials and

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<v Speaker 2>I will sit there and I'll go, you know, at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of it, what were they selling? Because there's

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<v Speaker 2>so much distraction within the commercial itself, I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>know what they're selling or it's kind of a stupid

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<v Speaker 2>commercial and it doesn't make any sense. So, uh, this

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<v Speaker 2>commercial hits the nail on the head. And what they

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<v Speaker 2>refer to this as the oh tannan palm commercial coming up,

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<v Speaker 2>I get a little bit of Uh, let's step out

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<v Speaker 2>here for a moment. Phone numbers five one, three, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>four nine fifty, five hundred one, eight hundred eight two

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<v Speaker 2>phone Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRC

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<v Speaker 2>The Talk Station, five point twenty nine in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRC the

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<v Speaker 2>Talk Station. Take a look at some local headline we're

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<v Speaker 2>covering for you. I saw this earlier today out of Florence, Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Three men are being investigated after police say they stole

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<v Speaker 2>a barbecue. Stole a barbecue restaurants cooking equipment on the

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<v Speaker 2>night of Christmas. Mary freaking Christmas. There folks smoking this

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<v Speaker 2>and smoking this and that barbecue in Florence. It's around

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<v Speaker 2>eight pm on Wednesday, when men swipe their stuff. There's

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<v Speaker 2>not any good day to steal from somebody, but at Christmas,

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of horrible. At eight oh five come and

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<v Speaker 2>says that two men carry off this commercials meat slicer,

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<v Speaker 2>and over the fifteen minute period frenzy they allegedly sold tents,

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<v Speaker 2>food warmers and so on. So just you know, never,

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<v Speaker 2>it never ceases to amaze me, how during certain times

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<v Speaker 2>of the year when people will try to take advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of other people, and especially around the Christmas season. We've

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<v Speaker 2>you saw the video, but it was pretty funny that

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<v Speaker 2>there was a fellow. I don't know where this town was,

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<v Speaker 2>but he went out and he bought a flat screen

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<v Speaker 2>TV to replace obviously to replace the one that he had,

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<v Speaker 2>and he thought, well, geez, what am I going to

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<v Speaker 2>do with this flat screen TV? So instead of taking

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<v Speaker 2>box that he just removed the new TV from, wrapped

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<v Speaker 2>it up, put it on his porch, and set it

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<v Speaker 2>out there for about a day and it got stolen. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I've seen these things a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard of people that have taken gift wrapping or

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<v Speaker 2>gift wrap packages and they put their garbage in it

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<v Speaker 2>and then put that on they're you know, not stinky garbage,

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<v Speaker 2>but garbage and put that on their back seats. And

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<v Speaker 2>people have stolen that those packages and big surprise when

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<v Speaker 2>they actually get home, and that not quite what you

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<v Speaker 2>bargained for, according to police threats sent to homes of

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio Republican lawmakers. Of course, the FBI is investigating this

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<v Speaker 2>out of West Chester. The FBI is now investigating after

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<v Speaker 2>several Republican lawmakers in Ohio received threatening letters. State Representative

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Gross Westchester said she was one of the several

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<v Speaker 2>Republican politicians targeted. Several House members and senators received envelopes

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<v Speaker 2>from the from the same we've determined fake address of

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<v Speaker 2>a person, and that has addressed to both us and

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<v Speaker 2>the spouses of our private residences. According to Gross, in

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<v Speaker 2>some of them there was let me see, in some

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<v Speaker 2>around the state, Gross the envelopes contained wipe substance. In

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<v Speaker 2>some of them there wasn't. There wasn't. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>going back to years and years ago with those rice

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<v Speaker 2>and envelopes that would go to Congress and right after

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<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven, and we had those threats at the

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<v Speaker 2>time of Terrorist Act, and they didn't know what was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be going on, whether or not those were

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<v Speaker 2>actual terrorist threats. And this is the whole thing has

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<v Speaker 2>screwed things up. As far as you know, in the

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<v Speaker 2>old days, you could send a letter to your congress

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<v Speaker 2>member or senator, congressman, or somebody within the government, and

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<v Speaker 2>now you have to rely on email or phone calls

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<v Speaker 2>to their office, to their switchboard, because if you happen

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<v Speaker 2>to send a letter to somebody that now, since nine

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven, and since that Rice and Scare back in

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of two thousand and two thousand and one,

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<v Speaker 2>all of those letters go to a holding facility until

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<v Speaker 2>they are actually reviewed, looked at, investigated to see if

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<v Speaker 2>they contain any substance. Then they are eventually forwarded onto

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<v Speaker 2>the congressman or senator or wherever you're sending that to,

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<v Speaker 2>and that can take up to two to three at

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<v Speaker 2>least two weeks for that process to take place. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're sending a letter to a congressman or a

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<v Speaker 2>senator based on a current piece of legislation that is

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<v Speaker 2>coming up for a vote in a week, you're better

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<v Speaker 2>off calling that switchboard. And I got to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>from my experience calling those switchboards. We had a caller

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday talk about that, the fact that if you want

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of legislation passed, sometimes it's good to call

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<v Speaker 2>the congressman or senator's office. Now you can call the

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<v Speaker 2>congressional switchboard. They're very friendly, very accommodating. They'll only ask

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<v Speaker 2>you some questions about where you live, and only because

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<v Speaker 2>they can put you into the mailbox or the voicemail

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<v Speaker 2>of your state representa or of your representative or your congressman,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they make sure that the message gets there,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you can give the message that you want.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, if you're sending messages now, you can

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<v Speaker 2>send them to anybody. But I got to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that most congressmen and senators, they will pay attention to

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<v Speaker 2>a certain extent, but if it's from a constituent, they

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<v Speaker 2>sit up and take notice more often and in talking

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<v Speaker 2>to them. If they receive phone calls or they receive

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<v Speaker 2>emails to their office about twenty to thirty emails on

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<v Speaker 2>a particular bill a lot of time, that gets their attention.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that at least with our Kentucky legislators

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<v Speaker 2>that when they get about fifteen to twenty different comments

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<v Speaker 2>from people, they do pay attention. And even though there

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<v Speaker 2>may be a lot of lobbyists out there that are

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<v Speaker 2>lobbying these senators and congressmen, their job won in most cases.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a few exceptions that look out for the

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<v Speaker 2>people to put the people first, but their name number

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<v Speaker 2>one job is to get reelected. And if there's a

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<v Speaker 2>That could cost them their jobs. So caeping in touch

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<v Speaker 2>bill that was passed last week. Remember there was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be this government shutdown and everybody was freaking out,

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<v Speaker 2>and the cable news networks were all talking about, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what happens. And they always do this every

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<v Speaker 2>to pass these appropriations bills to fund the government for

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<v Speaker 2>the year. And as Thomas Massey has pointed out on

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<v Speaker 2>my congressman from Northern Kentucky and talks about on this

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<v Speaker 2>program numerous times with Brian, that each one of these

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<v Speaker 2>bills is supposed to be passed individually. There's nine spending

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<v Speaker 2>bills that are supposed to be passed. I see no

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<v Speaker 2>that these that the Defense bill can't be a standalone

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<v Speaker 2>bill and passed the agriculture bill can't be a standalone

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<v Speaker 2>bill and passed. But no, when you combine all of

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<v Speaker 2>these bills together and then when they start packing in

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<v Speaker 2>this pork. We talked about the Festivus Report last week

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<v Speaker 2>or yesterday, rather that Ran Paul puts out every year

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<v Speaker 2>and talks about the waste, fraud, and abuse. The government

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<v Speaker 2>Office of Management and Budget does the same thing every

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<v Speaker 2>year where they come up with certain items that are

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<v Speaker 2>wasteful spending as far as the federal government is concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>And isn't it amazing? Two senators, one senator and one

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<v Speaker 2>congressman from Kentucky are the people that are leading champions

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<v Speaker 2>on trying to cut the deficit. Now, there are others

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<v Speaker 2>in there, but some of theo at the forefront of

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<v Speaker 2>the Festivus Report, it was what over a trillion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in cost savings that could be done just by eliminating

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<v Speaker 2>some of these programs that he points out in there. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>when they get to these budget and they get to

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<v Speaker 2>these last minute to continuing resolution or to fund the government,

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<v Speaker 2>the welfare checks aren't going to go out, the Social

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<v Speaker 2>Security checks aren't going to go out, the military isn't

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<v Speaker 2>going to get paid, all these scare tactics that go on,

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<v Speaker 2>and a year after year after year, they wait till

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<v Speaker 2>the very last minute they wind up coming some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a compromise and kick the can down the road. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>remember the fact that the budget, the new year for

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<v Speaker 2>State the States, begins October first, So the approach, appropriation bills,

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<v Speaker 2>and the spending should be in line before you start

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<v Speaker 2>your new year. So now we're talking about October November

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<v Speaker 2>to the middle of December, right before well almost the

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<v Speaker 2>end of December, around Christmas time, when these bills have

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<v Speaker 2>to be passed in order to keep the government afloat

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<v Speaker 2>now three months. Can you imagine in your company not

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<v Speaker 2>knowing what your budget's going to be for the coming year,

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<v Speaker 2>not having your spending, not making sure that what you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be doing, what your operations are going to

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<v Speaker 2>any of that sort of stuff. You put that off

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<v Speaker 2>until right before Christmas. You wouldn't have a business. And

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<v Speaker 2>yet the federal government does this time and time again.

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<v Speaker 2>And the dirty little secret when they start talking about

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<v Speaker 2>all these poor government employees, they're not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>well it's around Christmas time, so they're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be paid, and they're going to be without a paycheck. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're paid at the fifteenth and the thirtieth

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<v Speaker 2>of the month. So the fact that this is towards

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the month, and looking at how some

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<v Speaker 2>of these bureaucrats are paid, I'm sure they're not sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there waiting working paycheck to paycheck like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>us out there are doing, where the month is much

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<v Speaker 2>longer than your paycheck. So I'm not feeling a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of sympathy for that. But they also have the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to go on unemployment, and they can file for

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<v Speaker 2>unemployment because they're technically off the job. And then once

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<v Speaker 2>the government opens back up if it's shut down for

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<v Speaker 2>any period of time, their pay is retroactive. So the

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<v Speaker 2>unemployment that they collect while they're off is basically a bonus.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm sure there's a lot of the people

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<v Speaker 2>that said, well, first of all, what are we seeing

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<v Speaker 2>something like what are the number that I saw the

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<v Speaker 2>other day. They were talking about that only on any

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<v Speaker 2>given day, only ten percent of the employees are in

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<v Speaker 2>any of these different offices, whether it be commerce department,

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<v Speaker 2>labor department, any of these departments, only ten percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the people are there. And then they say that, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if you extract out of that the security, the maintenance people,

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<v Speaker 2>the janitorial and other people like that that have to

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<v Speaker 2>be there to maintain the presence, and there's only about

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<v Speaker 2>four to six percent of the actual workers there. So

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<v Speaker 2>all of these people are working from home anyway, and

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of money that they are paid. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to pay for commuting, they don't have to pay

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<v Speaker 2>for the gas, they don't pay the wear and tear

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<v Speaker 2>on their car. They don't have their hour or so

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<v Speaker 2>tied up in traffic because traffic in Washington, DC can

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<v Speaker 2>be a nightmare, So they don't have that aggravation. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the parking hassles, they don't have the wardrobe

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<v Speaker 2>that they need to have in order to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the office on a regular basis. So their expenses have

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<v Speaker 2>been cut down considerable, and no wonder a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>them want to stay from home. But I wonder the efficiency,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've talked to a lot of people that have

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<v Speaker 2>worked from home and don't work from home, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting how the split is on that the percentage of

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<v Speaker 2>people to say, I would much rather be in the office.

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<v Speaker 2>I would much rather have that face to face, being

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<v Speaker 2>able to talk to somebody about a project or something

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<v Speaker 2>that you're working on, rather than the text, rather than

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<v Speaker 2>the email, rather than the third party type of communications.

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<v Speaker 2>That the face to face and getting a certain amount

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<v Speaker 2>of camaraderie, a certain amount of personal interaction with the

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<v Speaker 2>employees makes for a better workplace. And now there's some

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<v Speaker 2>businesses I've talked to the people who are actually more

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<v Speaker 2>productive being at home. But when you talk to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people, they talk about how there's constant eruptions

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<v Speaker 2>when they're at home. They're distracted about other things that

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<v Speaker 2>need to be done, and so it's not as efficient.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, get the government employees back to the office,

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<v Speaker 2>get them back in there doing their jobs, and then

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<v Speaker 2>see from there. And I've got a thought on how

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<v Speaker 2>if they're you know, Vivek Ramaswami and Elon musk are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to weed out some of the employees, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>an idea how to do that. Coming up. I'm Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five KR. See the

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<v Speaker 2>two three eight two five five pound, five point fifty

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<v Speaker 2>AT and T wireless phone. For the idea of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're talking about the waste fraud abuse in the government.

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<v Speaker 2>They're talking about trying to streamline the government, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>see what employees are unproductive and can lay them off.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean number one, and you can start off with

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<v Speaker 2>just look at the snow days, look at the emergency days,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you look at the people that when they

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<v Speaker 2>say that only the necessary workers show up, that would

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<v Speaker 2>be a good start right there, because if somebody is

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<v Speaker 2>not necessary for the functioning that maybe that would be

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<v Speaker 2>a person that could not be in for the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's a job that could be eliminated. Also, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that has been brought up over the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years is that what about having some

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<v Speaker 2>of these departments being moved out of Washington, DC and

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<v Speaker 2>into the heart of the country. Now you can have

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the secretary of those particular cabinet positions, those departments,

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<v Speaker 2>and some administrative staff there in Washington because of having

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<v Speaker 2>to go to testify at congressional hearings or because they

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<v Speaker 2>need to attend meetings with the President. But does the

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<v Speaker 2>entire Energy Department need to be washed working out of Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>d C. Maybe they should be near where the energy

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<v Speaker 2>is produced. How about maybe Texas, how about Oklahoma somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>in that neighborhood. How about the Department of Agriculture. How

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<v Speaker 2>about moving that out to the agricultural belt. Maybe Nebraska,

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere Iowa, somewhere where crops are grown and the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of the crops are are are grown, is what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to say. How about the Transportation Department? Should the

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<v Speaker 2>Transportation Department be more centrally located? Say pick the spot,

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<v Speaker 2>what is it? Something like there's like a town about

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred miles away from Saint Louis, Missouri, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the actual center of the country. And there are an area,

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<v Speaker 2>there are several areas where you have major highways that

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<v Speaker 2>all come through a certain area. You know, you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the greater insane Northern Kentucky area. When you have

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<v Speaker 2>I seventy one seventy five I've coming together. You have

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<v Speaker 2>ICE seventy and I seventy one hooking up at certain points.

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<v Speaker 2>Know how far over I seventy go, how Interstate forty goes.

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<v Speaker 2>You can pick a spot where in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the country where a lot of these roads come together,

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<v Speaker 2>east west, north south, and maybe put the Department of

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<v Speaker 2>Transportation there. Obviously, if you put that along the Mississippi

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<v Speaker 2>River or in Saint Louis or somewhere along those lines,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe hey, even in Cincinnati, you've got the barge traffic,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got rail traffic, You've got Mississippi River with the

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<v Speaker 2>barge traffic. There, have the Transportation Apartment closer to that.

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<v Speaker 2>How about anything having to obviously, anything having to do

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<v Speaker 2>with the defense. You've got the Pentagon there, But where

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<v Speaker 2>there are some large military bases or wherever out in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the country, maybe put the Department of

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<v Speaker 2>Defense out there. How About as far as the Commerce Department,

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<v Speaker 2>picking a area such as maybe close to maybe New

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<v Speaker 2>York because of the stock market or the commodities market

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago, and do it there. Any of these departments

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<v Speaker 2>can be moved out of the areas, and if the

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<v Speaker 2>people don't want to move there, then that's a great

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<v Speaker 2>way of saying, oh well, thank you very much, sin Arra,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you very much for your service, and go on

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<v Speaker 2>about your life. So it'd be interesting to see if

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<v Speaker 2>this takes hold, how much it could be weeded out

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<v Speaker 2>that way. Coming up, we're gonna be talking about a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of other I've got the word of the day

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to tease you with that. Duncle Fluata,

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<v Speaker 2>Duncle Fluata. I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five k SEE the Talk Station.

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<v Speaker 1>And now Kevin Golden filling in for Brian Thomas on

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five KOs the Talk Station.

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<v Speaker 2>Five minutes after six o'clock and surprise, I'm back. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't scheduled to be in here this morning, but got

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<v Speaker 2>the phone call and I'm glad to be here because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I love being on the radio. I love

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<v Speaker 2>spending time with you, and I love listening to the

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<v Speaker 2>callers and talking about the issues of the day because,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, I have an opinion and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>afraid to use it. Coming up at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>the hour, are going to be talking to my friend

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<v Speaker 2>of mine and friend of the station here, friend of

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<v Speaker 2>the show Dave Hatter, cybersecurity expert, expert, Cincinnati's premier cybersecurity expert.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been talking about things that, well, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>things to scare the heck out of us during the

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<v Speaker 2>day and the things that you know. I love talking

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<v Speaker 2>to him, but he scares the heck out of me.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, we've got that going up and really don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any other guests other than you, me and the

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<v Speaker 2>telephones and talk about some of the issues. Now. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to bring this up in a couple of seconds here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want to get to the phone calls first.

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<v Speaker 2>But last week when the Congress, I was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>this in the previous hour about how Congress waited till

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<v Speaker 2>the last minute again and uh didn't do their job

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<v Speaker 2>in passees appropriations bill. But one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>have been bouncing around Washington for a number of years,

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<v Speaker 2>actually going on almost two and a half years now

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<v Speaker 2>is this bill called am Radio for every car, and

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll be talking about that coming up. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>to the phones right now. By the way, phone numbers

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<v Speaker 2>are five one three seven four nine fifty five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>one eight hundred eight two three talk one eight hundred

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<v Speaker 2>eight two three eight two five five pound, five point

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<v Speaker 2>fifty AT and T wireless phone. So let's get to Evelyn, Evelyn,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five case. How are you this morning?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, well, I'll be you worried about everything, but about

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<v Speaker 9>the topic of perhaps moving some of the agencies out

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<v Speaker 9>of Washington. Yes, all I could hit all I can picture.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, it's probably in the long run necessary, But

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<v Speaker 9>all I could picture is they would decide they needed

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<v Speaker 9>to have new facilities built for them, you know, and

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<v Speaker 9>they would be even more elaborate and secure. And so

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<v Speaker 9>I don't see where we could just you know, gain

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<v Speaker 9>any anything from moving moments, because it would probably cost

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<v Speaker 9>billions to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one of the things that they can do is

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<v Speaker 2>that as a result of what we've seen from the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 2>there's an awful lot of retail space, an awful lot

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<v Speaker 2>of buildings that are not fully occupied currently. There are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of office buildings that have not been well,

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<v Speaker 2>in some cases fifty percent vacant at this point because

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are still working from home and

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<v Speaker 2>they haven't pushed people coming back to work. That may change,

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<v Speaker 2>but there is an awful lot of vacancy rate around

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<v Speaker 2>the country. And if you're doing this, and you do

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<v Speaker 2>it in a reasonable fashion, you can build some of

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<v Speaker 2>these buildings and they don't have to be as tremendously elaborate,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have to be as fancy as some of

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<v Speaker 2>the buildings in Washington. But the buildings in Washington are

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<v Speaker 2>extremely expensive and expensive to maintain. And what you have

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of this permanent bureaucracy in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>Where they have somewhat more of a liberal mind, if

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<v Speaker 2>you will. And so when you look at the surrounding

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<v Speaker 2>areas Washington, d C. I think, what is it. The

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<v Speaker 2>percentage of votes that go to Republicans in the city

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<v Speaker 2>of Washington, DC is like ten percent of the vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety percent is done for the Democrats out in the

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<v Speaker 2>suburbs where a lot of the federal workers work or live.

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<v Speaker 2>That is where a lot of these pockets of Democratic

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<v Speaker 2>voters are and kind of skews the election results in

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<v Speaker 2>Maryland and is Virginia and the surrounding areas. So breaking

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<v Speaker 2>that up a little bit wouldn't be a bad deal,

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<v Speaker 2>but it would have to be looked at and have

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<v Speaker 2>to be done in an organized fashion. Make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>you find some of the locations in some of these

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<v Speaker 2>cities that have been decimated by the pandemic where they're

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<v Speaker 2>not in the office, and just go about it that way,

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<v Speaker 2>in a more organized fashion, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 9>That was expensive to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well we'll see. It'll be interesting to see. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much for the phone call, Evlon, I certainly

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. Let's get to Linda, Linda fifty five Krose,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for calling. How are you today?

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, I'm good. How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Very good? Very good?

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<v Speaker 10>Happy New Year? And I just have a couple of questions.

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<v Speaker 10>One is what do they do with the buildings in Washington?

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<v Speaker 10>And those are enormous, Yeah, and I told Jim maybe

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<v Speaker 10>we would house the illegals in them. Any questions, what

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<v Speaker 10>are we going to do about offices? But we'll get

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<v Speaker 10>Elon Musk to make a whole bunch of tiny homes

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<v Speaker 10>and we'll put those all over the country and that

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<v Speaker 10>can be their office. They don't need much now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, there's all kinds of options on the table,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know there's some things that we can do

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<v Speaker 2>that they're kind of funny about that. But we have

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<v Speaker 2>all these offices in Washington, d C. And a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them. I mean, if they're sitting empty, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>really doing anybody any good. We're spending a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>money maintaining those, and maybe move some of these jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>these Washington DC jobs, out of Washington, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>need for those buildings wouldn't be there, and the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of money to maintain those aren't there because that's very

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<v Speaker 2>expensive to live there and live in that area. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. At least at least the ideas should

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<v Speaker 2>be thrown on the table and all things should be discussed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in most businesses, when you have a problem,

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<v Speaker 2>people get together and they discuss all discuss all the

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<v Speaker 2>various options. Rather than just doing the same thing over

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<v Speaker 2>and over and over again, once in a while it's

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<v Speaker 2>necessary to kind of shake things up and say, okay

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<v Speaker 2>about thinking about this, thinking about that, how about trying this,

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<v Speaker 2>trying that. And it's amazing some of the stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>comes up.

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<v Speaker 10>I agree with you, I really do, and I do

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<v Speaker 10>think it's something we should look at. It just hit me,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, those you've been there, Those buildings are enormous

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<v Speaker 10>and whether they're in there or not, somebody's going to

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<v Speaker 10>maintain them. So somebody's going to address that before we say, okay,

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<v Speaker 10>we move everybody out, right, I mean, I know they're

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<v Speaker 10>not there now, right. Make it go back to work first.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a first step, and maybe you weed out a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the employees that may not want to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to work, want to do that commute, and so

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<v Speaker 2>then you kind of thin the herd that way as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So I and I really, you know, kind of on

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<v Speaker 2>a different subject, I think you saw probably a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks ago that Biden has put forth some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of contract with these federal workers where they can stay

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<v Speaker 2>living or working from home for the next four years

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<v Speaker 2>or something along those lines. I don't know that that's

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<v Speaker 2>something that could actually be done by the White House

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<v Speaker 2>or a contract. I think since that's kind of an

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<v Speaker 2>appropriation bill that possibly should be passed by Congress, and

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<v Speaker 2>so if the bill didn't come through Congress, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that that's enforceable, and that could be broken. Also

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that anything that Biden has negotiated, anything, any

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<v Speaker 2>executive order that he's signed pretty much since the day

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<v Speaker 2>he took office, should be under review because the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that his mental capabilities haven't been there and they've been

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<v Speaker 2>covering up for him who's been running the show. It's illegal,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's treason us that you have somebody else

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<v Speaker 2>making the decision, in my opinion, other than the president.

837
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<v Speaker 2>And so I think we need a whole investigation as

838
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.280
<v Speaker 2>to what's been going on over the last four years here.

839
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<v Speaker 10>I think investigations are good if we have the right

840
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.559
<v Speaker 10>people doing on this. Yes, of course President Trump is

841
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:54.480
<v Speaker 10>putting a bunch of good people in there.

842
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:55.159
<v Speaker 2>That's for sure.

843
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<v Speaker 10>Anyway, call your congress people, keep on them, you bet.

844
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And we got another one to talk to about

845
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:03.079
<v Speaker 2>coming up, this AM Radio for Every Car and I'll

846
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<v Speaker 2>talk about that coming up. Lenda, Thank you so much,

847
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 2>certainly appreciate the phone call before we go. Well, we

848
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:11.960
<v Speaker 2>got a couple of minutes here. As part of this,

849
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:16.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, this continuing resolution and this funding of the government,

850
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:19.599
<v Speaker 2>there was a bill in there AM Radio for Every

851
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Car now on the show that I do on WLW

852
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:29.199
<v Speaker 2>America's trucking network. That bill came up almost well in

853
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>May of twenty twenty three. And what was happening at

854
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:37.679
<v Speaker 2>the time is that these car manufacturers that have the

855
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:43.679
<v Speaker 2>electric vehicles. They were finding that the AM waves interfere

856
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:47.840
<v Speaker 2>with the efficiency of the battery, and vice versa, the

857
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:52.000
<v Speaker 2>waves from the battery itself for the automobile interfere with

858
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:56.199
<v Speaker 2>the radio signal. Now there is a quick fisk fix

859
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:59.079
<v Speaker 2>to that. There is a from what I understand, a

860
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:03.599
<v Speaker 2>very ineff an expensive block or panel that could be

861
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:05.920
<v Speaker 2>put in there that it doesn't cost a lot of money.

862
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Because when this started being talked about and people started

863
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:13.519
<v Speaker 2>thinking about this, there wasn't all this pushback that oh, well,

864
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:15.519
<v Speaker 2>this is gonna do. This is going to be very

865
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.760
<v Speaker 2>difficult to do. It's going to add you know, ten

866
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:20.400
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars to the cost of the vehicle. It may

867
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<v Speaker 2>add you know, I didn't see any estimates, but if

868
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.239
<v Speaker 2>they're not squawking about it, it can't be more than

869
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:29.599
<v Speaker 2>a couple of hundred bucks. So the fact that nobody's

870
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:32.079
<v Speaker 2>squawking about this, it's just an easy thing. If you

871
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:33.679
<v Speaker 2>just don't have to do it, you don't do it,

872
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:36.559
<v Speaker 2>and rather than solving the problem, you just do away

873
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:40.000
<v Speaker 2>with the problem. Now the importance of that is, of

874
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:42.679
<v Speaker 2>course the liberals would like that to happen, because AM

875
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:46.760
<v Speaker 2>radio is the bastion of conservative talk. And we know

876
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.960
<v Speaker 2>liberals do not like conservative talk. They've been trying to

877
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:54.119
<v Speaker 2>kill Fox News for how long, They've tried to kill

878
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:58.079
<v Speaker 2>AM radio ever since Rush Limbaugh came on the scene

879
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:01.000
<v Speaker 2>and brought back AM radio to the force that it

880
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:04.480
<v Speaker 2>is today. And because of the you know, obviously the

881
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:14.920
<v Speaker 2>liberals don't have I mean, they have control of NPR, PBS, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN,

882
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:18.079
<v Speaker 2>and all the alphabets out there. They have control of

883
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:21.679
<v Speaker 2>most of the major newspapers, and so anything that they

884
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:24.840
<v Speaker 2>can squash as far as conservative content, they would want

885
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:27.840
<v Speaker 2>to do that. And because AM radio has been a

886
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:33.079
<v Speaker 2>very important component of conservative talk and religious radio, it's

887
00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:37.159
<v Speaker 2>been a target of the left. And so the killing

888
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:41.760
<v Speaker 2>this or not putting these AM radios in cars is very,

889
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.960
<v Speaker 2>very appealing to liberals. However, in the event of an

890
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.400
<v Speaker 2>emergency like what we experienced with Milton and Helene, the

891
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:54.639
<v Speaker 2>way of communicating with people very quickly is through AM radio.

892
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:58.320
<v Speaker 2>And those signals for AM radio can go out of

893
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.760
<v Speaker 2>seven hundred miles and you can get it in tunnels,

894
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:05.559
<v Speaker 2>you can get it in buildings, and when you've got

895
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:09.199
<v Speaker 2>a natural disaster. When you have an emergency, that is

896
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:12.519
<v Speaker 2>the best means of communication. And to take that out

897
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:14.960
<v Speaker 2>of a radio as people are out of a car,

898
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.559
<v Speaker 2>as people are traveling down the highway, I think that

899
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:20.320
<v Speaker 2>puts people at risk. So we'll talk a little bit

900
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:23.559
<v Speaker 2>about this coming up, because this legislation needs to be passing.

901
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:26.880
<v Speaker 2>As Linda mentioned, call your congressman, call your senators, get

902
00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:32.920
<v Speaker 2>them on board with this, because the ground swell, the grassroots,

903
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:36.360
<v Speaker 2>begins with you and me. Phone numbers five one, three, seven,

904
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<v Speaker 2>four nine, fifty, five hundred one, eight hundred eight two

905
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<v Speaker 2>three talk one eight hundred eight two three A two

906
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<v Speaker 2>five five pound, five point fifty AT and T wireless phone.

907
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRS the

908
00:51:48.519 --> 00:52:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Talk Station. Six twenty one in the morning, Kevin Gordon

909
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:07.320
<v Speaker 2>in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRC the Talk Station. Now,

910
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:12.639
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned this earlier that before the break that this

911
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:16.480
<v Speaker 2>AM radio for every car is extremely important. Not only

912
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:19.920
<v Speaker 2>is it important from the standpoint of getting the word

913
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:23.000
<v Speaker 2>out in the event of an emergency, but also from

914
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:25.880
<v Speaker 2>the standpoint of where has been a lot of the

915
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:29.880
<v Speaker 2>talk about conservative thought could be coming from and it's

916
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:33.400
<v Speaker 2>been AM radio. And when you look at the balance

917
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:37.199
<v Speaker 2>of the coverage in this last election, when you see

918
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.599
<v Speaker 2>that the major news outlets, as I refer to them,

919
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:44.320
<v Speaker 2>the spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media, the propaganda

920
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:47.639
<v Speaker 2>arm of the DNC. When ninety five percent of the

921
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:51.400
<v Speaker 2>coverage of Donald Trump was negative and ninety three percent

922
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:54.599
<v Speaker 2>or more was positive having to do with Kamala Harris,

923
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:57.239
<v Speaker 2>then you know that the balance shift of this balance

924
00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:02.559
<v Speaker 2>of power. Now the MAINSTA media is losing their influence.

925
00:53:02.840 --> 00:53:06.719
<v Speaker 2>They have basically lost all credibility. They have lost a

926
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:11.119
<v Speaker 2>lot of their actually, to a large extent, even their

927
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:14.199
<v Speaker 2>influence because people have been tuning them out, they've not

928
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:17.239
<v Speaker 2>been watching them. Their ratings are not the greatest, and

929
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:20.800
<v Speaker 2>even now once the election is over, their ratings have tanked.

930
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:23.719
<v Speaker 2>You've seen some of the reports where their ratings are

931
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:28.559
<v Speaker 2>down forty fifty percent. Talking about CNN being spun off

932
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:32.920
<v Speaker 2>into a separate company. Once the premiere news network, the

933
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:36.000
<v Speaker 2>people were the network where people used to go for

934
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:39.239
<v Speaker 2>their news, how they started going downhill? You remember the

935
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:41.920
<v Speaker 2>days when people used to refer them as a Clinton

936
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:44.400
<v Speaker 2>news network. So this has been going on for a

937
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:48.480
<v Speaker 2>long period of time, MSNBC, the Comcast is talking about

938
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:52.280
<v Speaker 2>splitting them off and jettising them. So there's going to

939
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:54.000
<v Speaker 2>be a rude awakening as far as a lot of

940
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:59.559
<v Speaker 2>these major news outlets are concerned. And if you I'm

941
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:03.119
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more prone to go to those websites

942
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:07.719
<v Speaker 2>or to those news outlets now that the election is over.

943
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Before the election, I just couldn't stand the constant drum

944
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:14.519
<v Speaker 2>beat and all the lies that were going on. Now

945
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:17.079
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of funny to tune in to see how

946
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:20.320
<v Speaker 2>they keep trying to cover themselves, trying to make excuses

947
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:24.000
<v Speaker 2>for their coverage, and the fact that the nonsense that

948
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:28.360
<v Speaker 2>they're bringing up about how to criticize this incoming administration.

949
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.920
<v Speaker 2>They still don't get the idea that this was a

950
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:36.679
<v Speaker 2>extremely unique circumstance. Nowhere in the history of this country

951
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:40.159
<v Speaker 2>has something like this, a phenomenon like this happened. The

952
00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:43.679
<v Speaker 2>amount of people that are in support of Donald Trump,

953
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.920
<v Speaker 2>the fact that he's coming in with not only the presidency,

954
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:50.760
<v Speaker 2>but the House and the Senate and a right leaning

955
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:53.760
<v Speaker 2>if you will, and not all the time Supreme Court,

956
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:58.000
<v Speaker 2>that things could be very interesting if they do it right,

957
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:01.599
<v Speaker 2>and if the House and Senate can stay combined if

958
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:05.360
<v Speaker 2>they can stay together, and you know, get together when

959
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:09.519
<v Speaker 2>they can. Now, obviously, on certain ideological issues, I can

960
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:13.639
<v Speaker 2>understand standing up and taking a stance. But for the

961
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:16.320
<v Speaker 2>good of what has to be done in order to

962
00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:19.400
<v Speaker 2>turn this country around, sometimes some of the things that

963
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:22.960
<v Speaker 2>may be a little bit impalatable and palatable to talk

964
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:26.480
<v Speaker 2>about or to vote for may be necessary. But looking

965
00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:30.039
<v Speaker 2>forward to this incoming administration coming up bottom of the arp, well,

966
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll sell you what can we can we squeeze into? John? Okay,

967
00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.599
<v Speaker 2>all right, John, how are you this morning? They know

968
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:39.639
<v Speaker 2>if you can squeeze in before the bottom of the hour.

969
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<v Speaker 11>I thinks, appreciate it. I know you're busy, but real

970
00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:45.679
<v Speaker 11>quick here. So I lived in Cincinnati, you know, I

971
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:48.119
<v Speaker 11>listen to your radio station. It's kind of wean on

972
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:51.440
<v Speaker 11>your radio station exactly by what you're talking to another

973
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:57.880
<v Speaker 11>AM radio station. So I now basically live in Saint John's, Florida,

974
00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:01.599
<v Speaker 11>And it's funny should bring this up. I cannot get

975
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:06.079
<v Speaker 11>an AM station between here and Jacksonville, all the way

976
00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:09.599
<v Speaker 11>to Orlando. I can't get an AM station any place,

977
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:12.719
<v Speaker 11>not one none.

978
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:17.559
<v Speaker 2>On your land based radio radio. Car radio really I'm like.

979
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:22.519
<v Speaker 11>Not one AM station will come up. It's so great

980
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:24.639
<v Speaker 11>because I have been thinking about this for like the

981
00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:29.320
<v Speaker 11>past three weeks. Not one AM station will come up

982
00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:32.440
<v Speaker 11>on my search vand or anything. The only kind of

983
00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:36.360
<v Speaker 11>talk radio I might get, you can't it's nothing like this.

984
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:41.039
<v Speaker 11>It's like WOKV out of Jacksonville, which is one oh

985
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:45.159
<v Speaker 11>five point four, but it's nowhere like you can't call it.

986
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:47.599
<v Speaker 11>I mean, it's just the weather and basics, and it

987
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:52.840
<v Speaker 11>is somewhat conservative. But no AM stations, whatsever No call

988
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:55.440
<v Speaker 11>in stations, no interact nothing.

989
00:56:55.400 --> 00:57:00.440
<v Speaker 2>That's sounds like an It sounds like a market ready

990
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:03.239
<v Speaker 2>to be tapped down there, it seems to me because I'm.

991
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:07.760
<v Speaker 11>That's what I was thinking, exactly, or a market that's

992
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:09.920
<v Speaker 11>been shut down one or the other.

993
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I'll have to look into that. That that's curious. Make

994
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:18.360
<v Speaker 2>that now you've got me curious. I am. I'm curious

995
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:21.719
<v Speaker 2>about that. I'm very curious about that. Well, John, thank

996
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:23.679
<v Speaker 2>you very much. At least you're living in the lap

997
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:26.480
<v Speaker 2>of well, at least you're living in paradise down there. Anyway,

998
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:28.559
<v Speaker 2>we've got Dave Hatter standing by what we're talking to him.

999
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:32.000
<v Speaker 2>When we get back I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian

1000
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:40.519
<v Speaker 2>Thomas fifty five krs the talk station, six thirty one

1001
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:42.719
<v Speaker 2>in the morning. Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty

1002
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:46.440
<v Speaker 2>five krs the talk station. Joining me is my friend

1003
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<v Speaker 2>Dave Hatter. How are you this morning?

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00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:51.239
<v Speaker 12>My friend, good Kevin, how are you doing?

1005
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Very good? Very good? Dave Hatter, of course everybody's familiar

1006
00:57:54.800 --> 00:58:00.159
<v Speaker 2>with is Cincinnati's premier security cybersecurity expert. And uh, you

1007
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:02.480
<v Speaker 2>got the scare of the day or the scare of

1008
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:06.039
<v Speaker 2>the week. I was telling everybody earlier. I said, you know,

1009
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I love talking to Dave because he's a friend and

1010
00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:11.800
<v Speaker 2>he's a very interesting guy. But Manny scares the hell

1011
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:13.679
<v Speaker 2>out of me. So I guess that.

1012
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:17.840
<v Speaker 12>I hate to always be the Deemsday guy. Kevin, you know,

1013
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:21.679
<v Speaker 12>but sadly, you know, everything is digital now. We spend

1014
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:24.960
<v Speaker 12>a dollar time online, we bank online, we shop online, and

1015
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:28.920
<v Speaker 12>the criminals know this. The even bigger threat is because

1016
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:31.800
<v Speaker 12>everything is digital now, all these systems are interconnected. You know,

1017
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:36.079
<v Speaker 12>all your critical infrastructure is controlled by this stuff. So again,

1018
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:38.159
<v Speaker 12>I really do hate to be the Deemsday guy, but

1019
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:40.800
<v Speaker 12>it's so important. You know, people are losing tens of

1020
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:43.440
<v Speaker 12>thousands of millions of dollars individually. Companies are going out

1021
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.440
<v Speaker 12>of business. And then there's again the larger societal threat

1022
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:49.400
<v Speaker 12>of you know, knocking out water plants and things like that.

1023
00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:52.000
<v Speaker 12>And this isn't just old deems date Dave's theory. You

1024
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:54.320
<v Speaker 12>get people like the FBI that have been warning about

1025
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:56.880
<v Speaker 12>this for some time. So, yeah, sadly that's where we're at.

1026
00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:00.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I'm sure you've heard it before. The

1027
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:04.239
<v Speaker 2>difference between a conspiracy and fact is time.

1028
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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, sadly, that seems to be increasingly true, Kevin, Yes,

1029
00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:12.079
<v Speaker 12>you know. And here's scare of the day. Here's one

1030
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:14.599
<v Speaker 12>for you. Now, I've found this story and this guy

1031
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:18.119
<v Speaker 12>is pretty well known cybersecurity expert, a guy named Brian Krabs.

1032
00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:20.559
<v Speaker 12>He has a blog. I encourage people to check it

1033
00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:23.519
<v Speaker 12>out because he'll find these kind of stories and out them.

1034
00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:27.280
<v Speaker 12>And it's really important for folks to understand that while

1035
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.639
<v Speaker 12>I fully get people say, come on, Dave, this will

1036
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:33.239
<v Speaker 12>never happen to me. I don't have anything we're stealing,

1037
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:35.639
<v Speaker 12>my business is too small, or I'm just one person,

1038
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:39.480
<v Speaker 12>And you have to understand that the bad guys are

1039
00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:43.239
<v Speaker 12>very smart, very creative, very devious. They're usually not thinking

1040
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:45.599
<v Speaker 12>h today, I think I'll try to steal all Kevin

1041
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:48.559
<v Speaker 12>Gordon's money or all Dave Hatter's money. Let's put you know,

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<v Speaker 12>Dave Hatter's company out of business. They're looking for low

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00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:55.760
<v Speaker 12>hanging fruit type opportunities. They work at scale, you know,

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00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:58.960
<v Speaker 12>things are automated. They're using scanning tools to just go

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00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:01.159
<v Speaker 12>out and scan what they can find, and then if

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01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:05.159
<v Speaker 12>there's a vulnerability deep to exploit it. But this particular

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01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:08.039
<v Speaker 12>story is really one that gets to the heart of

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01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:11.679
<v Speaker 12>what most of this crime evolves around. Now, another well

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01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:15.960
<v Speaker 12>known security expert, a guy named Bruschneier, a cryptography guy,

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01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:18.199
<v Speaker 12>very well known, and he has a great quote I'm

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<v Speaker 12>going to paraphrase herea I can never get it quite

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<v Speaker 12>right unless I read it. But basically, the bad guys,

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01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:26.159
<v Speaker 12>I mean, they will attack your systems. You know, they'll

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<v Speaker 12>try to find flaws in your systems and exploit those.

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<v Speaker 12>But that's a lot harder to do generally than using

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01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:35.039
<v Speaker 12>spoofing and social engineering. Couple with a bushing its mission

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01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:38.199
<v Speaker 12>to catch people off guard and get into the systems

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01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:41.000
<v Speaker 12>through human error rather than trying to hack the system itself.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean it's certainly no matter happens. But that's a

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01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:47.000
<v Speaker 12>lot more difficult, right. And this Brian krab story, here's

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<v Speaker 12>the headline, how to lose a fortune with just one

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01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:52.199
<v Speaker 12>bad click, and he points out two different stories of

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<v Speaker 12>people who had similar types of theft. Now this involves cryptocurrency,

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<v Speaker 12>but let me just say, even if you don't have

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01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:02.199
<v Speaker 12>cryptocurrency or don't even know what cryptocurrency is, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 12>mean they couldn't use these same techniques to get to

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<v Speaker 12>your bank account. So in this case, the guy who

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<v Speaker 12>lost five hundred thousand dollars at crypto and it involved

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<v Speaker 12>in elaborate scam where the bad guys use legitimate Google tools.

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<v Speaker 12>But this is not a called Google. Although I'm not

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<v Speaker 12>a big Google fan, kem. You know, they use any

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01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.639
<v Speaker 12>any site that has these kind of capabilities. They've used

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<v Speaker 12>the form on a Google website where and a form

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01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:30.599
<v Speaker 12>meaning like you can set up a form and send

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01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:32.320
<v Speaker 12>it to someone and have them go in data and

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<v Speaker 12>capture It's fairly common. People do this all the time.

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<v Speaker 12>It's a great way to capture information online. And I

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01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:41.440
<v Speaker 12>don't know how much time we got left in the segment, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about thirty seconds or so Dave Hatter and want

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01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:46.280
<v Speaker 2>to take a break now and pick it up on

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01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:47.559
<v Speaker 2>the other side, do a little tease.

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<v Speaker 12>Why do we take a break? Yeah, and I'll finish

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01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:50.320
<v Speaker 12>the rest of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, very good. My guess is Dave Hatter very good

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01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:56.760
<v Speaker 2>friend of mine. Love talking to him, but hate talking

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01:01:56.760 --> 01:01:59.760
<v Speaker 2>to him at the same time. Since the premier is

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<v Speaker 2>security expert, I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty

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01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:14.679
<v Speaker 2>five kresee the Talk station six thirty eight in the morning.

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01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fits five kresee the

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01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Fox station and continue our conversation with Since as cybersecurity expert,

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Hatter got a one bad click cost somebody about

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01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:34.039
<v Speaker 2>five hundred thousand dollars, So you previate this. This is scary.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, it is pretty scary Kevin. And again even you know,

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01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:41.079
<v Speaker 12>I encourage people go read this Tom Cell. The headline

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01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:43.599
<v Speaker 12>is how to lose a fortune with just one bad click?

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<v Speaker 12>And I'll put this on my notes for the show

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01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:47.960
<v Speaker 12>when I posted this stuff. Brian crabs he's a pretty

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01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:51.480
<v Speaker 12>well known internationally right now security expert. But he goes

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<v Speaker 12>into a lot of detail here and again even if

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<v Speaker 12>you have no crypto currency, even if you do know

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01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:58.920
<v Speaker 12>a little crypto currency is The techniques the bad guys

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01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:02.159
<v Speaker 12>use in this paricular attack could be used on anyone.

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01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:05.559
<v Speaker 12>So they use a Google form and first off one

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01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:08.199
<v Speaker 12>of the things they did, and again this is easily done.

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01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:10.239
<v Speaker 12>Google has a variety of products and this is not

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01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:13.119
<v Speaker 12>again the slam on Google. There are other companies that

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01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:16.119
<v Speaker 12>offer these same sort of free online products to create forms.

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01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:18.440
<v Speaker 12>You know, Let's say Kevin and I wanted to invite people.

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01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:20.840
<v Speaker 12>I just want to do a simple office survey or something,

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01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:23.360
<v Speaker 12>but I don't want to build a specific software applications

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01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:25.559
<v Speaker 12>for it. Well I could use these online forms to

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01:03:25.639 --> 01:03:28.760
<v Speaker 12>do it. So it starts out where he gets a

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01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:32.639
<v Speaker 12>call right now. Google is quoted in here, and you

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01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:36.440
<v Speaker 12>can find many examples of this online Google, Microsoft, Apple.

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01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:39.400
<v Speaker 12>These people are not going to call you. I noticed.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm sure shocking you, Kevin, But I tell people this

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01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:44.639
<v Speaker 12>all the time. You try to call Apple or Google

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01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:46.920
<v Speaker 12>or Microsoft and see if you can get them the

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01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:49.519
<v Speaker 12>answer the phone. They are not going to call you

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<v Speaker 12>as an individual and say, oh, there's some sort of

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01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:56.000
<v Speaker 12>fraud on your account. That is not going to happen Okay, so,

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01:03:56.400 --> 01:03:59.679
<v Speaker 12>but the bad guys are smart and they use the

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01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:03.039
<v Speaker 12>side be spoofing. It's very easy to spoof create a bonus,

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01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:05.679
<v Speaker 12>you know, call from a legitimate phone number. If I

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01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:08.159
<v Speaker 12>can go to Google's website or whomever and find a

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01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:10.360
<v Speaker 12>phone number, there are tools that will allow me to

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01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:12.199
<v Speaker 12>make a call from that phone number, just like I

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<v Speaker 12>can send an email that looks like it came from

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<v Speaker 12>any email.

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<v Speaker 2>We get those all the time, all the spam phone

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01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:21.679
<v Speaker 2>calls and these marketers, you get those all the time.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah. Yes, that's the same kind of concept. But these

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01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:28.360
<v Speaker 12>guys took it one step further. They actually used a

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<v Speaker 12>Google service and made a call that came from a

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01:04:31.239 --> 01:04:33.039
<v Speaker 12>number that when this guy looked it up, it looked

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01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:35.840
<v Speaker 12>like it was a Google phone number. Okay, wow, this

1137
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:39.760
<v Speaker 12>was using something called Google Assistant. Again, they're smart, right,

1138
01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:42.960
<v Speaker 12>they're trying to create that air of authenticity. They're trying

1139
01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:45.719
<v Speaker 12>to catch you off guard, some sort of urgent thing

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01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.079
<v Speaker 12>you need to attend to. So he gets a call

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01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:52.280
<v Speaker 12>and then you know, basically he they tell him, you know,

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01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:55.079
<v Speaker 12>some blah blah blah saying, and then you know he's skeptical,

1143
01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:57.159
<v Speaker 12>which is what the right thing to do. The right

1144
01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:01.239
<v Speaker 12>thing is always be skeptical, take a brad, slow down,

1145
01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:04.000
<v Speaker 12>think about what's happening, and remember these big companies are

1146
01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:05.920
<v Speaker 12>going to call you. So then he gets an email. Okay,

1147
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:09.559
<v Speaker 12>So they use Google Forms to basically send him an

1148
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:12.159
<v Speaker 12>email where they completed the form, but it came from

1149
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:14.840
<v Speaker 12>a Google email address. So again they're trying to cover

1150
01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:18.320
<v Speaker 12>their tracks with this air of authenticity by using legitimate

1151
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:21.880
<v Speaker 12>tools to send messages through Google. Less likely they get

1152
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:25.559
<v Speaker 12>caught by spam filters and creates that extra air of authenticity.

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01:05:26.119 --> 01:05:30.039
<v Speaker 12>Now they've got him concerned, then they send him some

1154
01:05:30.119 --> 01:05:34.039
<v Speaker 12>push notifications for his MSA, They take over his email account,

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01:05:34.119 --> 01:05:36.440
<v Speaker 12>they get into his coin base account, they steal five

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01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:39.440
<v Speaker 12>hundred thousand crypto. I mean, that's the short version of it.

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01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:40.960
<v Speaker 12>There's a lot more detail in here.

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<v Speaker 2>But the point I actually in this it was he

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01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:48.599
<v Speaker 2>made the phone call to the return to the phone call, right.

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01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:53.960
<v Speaker 2>He was polite, patient, professional, reassuring. Told guy by the

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01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:56.199
<v Speaker 2>name of Ashton told Griffin he was going to receive

1162
01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:59.519
<v Speaker 2>a notification, allow and regain control of his accounts. It's

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01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:02.639
<v Speaker 2>just it's amazing the elaborate detail that these people go

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01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:05.880
<v Speaker 2>to and like you said, this is an important thing

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01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:08.079
<v Speaker 2>to read. It's a very long article, but it's still

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01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:10.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot of good information.

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01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:14.440
<v Speaker 12>It really goes into a lot of detail. And again

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<v Speaker 12>my point is, even if you have no crypto, they

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01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:19.599
<v Speaker 12>could use this same kind of technique on you to

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01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:22.039
<v Speaker 12>get to your bank account or wherever your money iss.

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01:06:22.199 --> 01:06:22.320
<v Speaker 11>Right.

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<v Speaker 12>They're common, they're organized, they're smart, they know how to

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01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:29.280
<v Speaker 12>use these tools to create that air of legitimacy. So

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01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:32.519
<v Speaker 12>if Google calls you, if Apple calls you, or any

1175
01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:34.760
<v Speaker 12>of these big companies, just assume it's a scam. And

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01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:38.079
<v Speaker 12>then if you feel like you just simply must go further.

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01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:41.480
<v Speaker 12>Don't use any phone numbers they gave you, don't use

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01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:44.000
<v Speaker 12>any links they send you. Go to Google dot com,

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01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:47.159
<v Speaker 12>go to Microsoft dot com or wherever, and you then

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01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:51.280
<v Speaker 12>use that's the legitimate site that you instance you initiated,

1181
01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:55.079
<v Speaker 12>and go from there. Anything that you get sent could

1182
01:06:55.159 --> 01:06:58.480
<v Speaker 12>be bogus, could be spoofed, and they'll lead you down

1183
01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:00.400
<v Speaker 12>a rabbit hole like this and steal your money if

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01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:01.000
<v Speaker 12>you make it easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Order absolutely well. And you know, I'm sure you've talked

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01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:08.159
<v Speaker 2>about this with Brian before about I've seen where I've

1187
01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:11.480
<v Speaker 2>been getting periodically. That doesn't happen very often, but I'll

1188
01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:14.559
<v Speaker 2>get a text that says, this is the USPS and

1189
01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:20.719
<v Speaker 2>we have a package we can't deliver. The addresses is incorrect,

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01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:27.599
<v Speaker 2>or from US Postal Service or UPS United, you know

1191
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:32.639
<v Speaker 2>parcel service where you get those contacts. Sometimes you get

1192
01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:36.039
<v Speaker 2>an email from those and I think, you know, it's

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01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:39.199
<v Speaker 2>important to know who you're buying from, who you bought from,

1194
01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:42.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe keep a list of it, and how these packages

1195
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:45.599
<v Speaker 2>are being delivered because it looks legitimate, and you say, well,

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01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:47.440
<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, I didn't order anything, so how the

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01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:50.320
<v Speaker 2>heck can they be not delivering a package because of

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01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:52.920
<v Speaker 2>a bad address because I didn't order anything. So that's

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01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:54.559
<v Speaker 2>a little easy. But if you're doing a lot of

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01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:57.320
<v Speaker 2>online buying, I can see how people will be tripped

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01:07:57.360 --> 01:07:59.599
<v Speaker 2>up by that. I don't think that any post office

1202
01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:03.800
<v Speaker 2>is going to all you, although that I did that

1203
01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:06.679
<v Speaker 2>was weird because we did have a situation. I probably

1204
01:08:06.679 --> 01:08:09.840
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't say this, but the post Office actually did. I

1205
01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:11.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know how they got my wife's phone number, but

1206
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:14.880
<v Speaker 2>actually did call and there was a problem with the delivery.

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01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:18.399
<v Speaker 2>But you know, if it's if you don't trust it,

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01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:21.680
<v Speaker 2>let the thing go back and then the seller will

1209
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:24.760
<v Speaker 2>contact you and say, hey, this was returned undeliverable you know.

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01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:31.199
<v Speaker 12>So yeah, those kinds of fake delivery notifications happen year round,

1211
01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:35.199
<v Speaker 12>but they usually accelerate around the Christmas holidays when they

1212
01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:37.479
<v Speaker 12>know more people are shopping online, they know people are

1213
01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:40.600
<v Speaker 12>anxiously waiting for gifts and so forth. Again, so much

1214
01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:43.319
<v Speaker 12>of this kevin is really social engineering. It's not technical

1215
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:46.319
<v Speaker 12>at all. I mean, yes, they're using technology and technological

1216
01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:50.760
<v Speaker 12>tools to reach you, but it's it's stooping. It's social engineering.

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01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:52.880
<v Speaker 12>It's trying to catch you up guard. It's trying to

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01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:55.399
<v Speaker 12>play on the you know, a sense of urgency fear,

1219
01:08:56.159 --> 01:08:58.840
<v Speaker 12>something that you wouldn't do if you just step back

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01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:01.600
<v Speaker 12>and said, that doesn't really seem legit.

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01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:04.079
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you got to take as you mentioned before, you

1222
01:09:04.199 --> 01:09:07.800
<v Speaker 2>got to take that deep breath, Dave Hatter, because if

1223
01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:11.159
<v Speaker 2>you take that deep breath, then it'll give you you know,

1224
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:13.119
<v Speaker 2>it's just like an impulse by. You know, if you

1225
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:15.840
<v Speaker 2>go to the store and there's something there that is

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01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:17.840
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be an impulse by, you think twice about

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01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:20.000
<v Speaker 2>sakaish store, I really need that, and then you pass

1228
01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:22.039
<v Speaker 2>it up. Some of these fishing scams and some of

1229
01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:25.279
<v Speaker 2>these fake accounts. Sometimes you got to do that. And

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01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:28.159
<v Speaker 2>as you said, make sure you call the individual company,

1231
01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:30.520
<v Speaker 2>not the phone number they presented, but see if you

1232
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:34.239
<v Speaker 2>can get a phone number from that particular company. So

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<v Speaker 2>all great advice on that. You mentioned that you don't

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01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:40.800
<v Speaker 2>use and I know we've talked about this before, but

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01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:43.119
<v Speaker 2>for people that are not familiar with it. You say

1236
01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:45.640
<v Speaker 2>that you don't like Google and you don't use Google, Well,

1237
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:48.680
<v Speaker 2>what search engine do you use? Or search engines?

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01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:52.479
<v Speaker 12>Should I say? Yeah, that's a good question, Kevin. Actually

1239
01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:55.960
<v Speaker 12>I have an article on my LinkedIn blog. I'll put

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01:09:56.039 --> 01:09:59.600
<v Speaker 12>that in the notes to conveniently what I'm using from

1241
01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:02.840
<v Speaker 12>my personal technology, because you know, what we're doing for

1242
01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:06.239
<v Speaker 12>interest is different than what I'm doing personally. But yeah,

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01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:09.920
<v Speaker 12>what my advice to people would be, whenever possible, avoid

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<v Speaker 12>these companies where you are their product, not their customer.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, all tech companies are collecting your data to

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<v Speaker 12>some extent, but you know the business model of people

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<v Speaker 12>like Alphabet which is the parent company at Google, and Meta,

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<v Speaker 12>which is the parent company of Facebook, is you are

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<v Speaker 12>their product, right, It's your data. So I tend to

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<v Speaker 12>prefer more privacy and security friendly companies. You know, Duck

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<v Speaker 12>dot Go, start Page, Brave has a good search engine

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<v Speaker 12>out and a lot of people will get confused because

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<v Speaker 12>Google makes Chrome, the web browser, and Google makes the

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<v Speaker 12>Google search engine. These are two different things, right, You

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<v Speaker 12>could use Chrome with any search engine like the Brave

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<v Speaker 12>search engine. Brave also makes a web browser. Web browser

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<v Speaker 12>is the software that allows you to view web pages

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<v Speaker 12>over the internet, right, and then a search engine is

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<v Speaker 12>a platform that's design to allow you to find things

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<v Speaker 12>on the Internet. So the two are connected, but they're

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<v Speaker 12>not the same. Again, Google makes Chrome. I would recommend

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<v Speaker 12>instead a browser like Firefox or Brave, or if you're

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<v Speaker 12>on the Apple platform, it's Afari browser. And then again

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<v Speaker 12>as far as search engine, mojiq, start Page, Brave, I'm

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<v Speaker 12>liking the Brave search engine more and more. Duck Ducto,

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<v Speaker 12>these are all, I mean, their business model is different,

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<v Speaker 12>generally more privacy friendly than Google. I would suggest, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>stop using Gmail, that's the Google product, use something like

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<v Speaker 12>proton Mail. But yeah, I'll put that out there because

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<v Speaker 12>I've got a list of all fantastic I use some

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<v Speaker 12>of my personal stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fantastic people can take a look at great TeV

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, a lot of these things that we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about, you know, you've talked about them before, and

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<v Speaker 2>if people haven't been paying it or haven't listened in before,

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<v Speaker 2>it's good kind of go back and refresh on some

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<v Speaker 2>of that. You got another thing that we need to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about, twelve cybersecurity can scams of Christmas twenty twenty four, correct,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can talk about that coming umber. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to that when we come. My guest Dave

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<v Speaker 2>had Or, cybersecurity expert, the premiere cybersecurity expert in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Hatter. It's my guest, Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five KR. See the talk station coming up on

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<v Speaker 2>six point fifty two in the morning. Kevin Gordon in

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<v Speaker 2>for Brian Thomas fits five KR. See the talk station

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<v Speaker 2>continuing our conversation with since an premier and cyber security expert,

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Hatter. Dave, we've got well, you see about three

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<v Speaker 2>minutes left here, got another story here, twelve cybersecurity scams

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<v Speaker 2>of Christmas. And by the way, thank you for being

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<v Speaker 2>with us today.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, my pleasure. Haven't always good to chat with you.

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<v Speaker 12>So this was a little blog post I put together

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<v Speaker 12>right before the holidays, but everything in it is it's

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<v Speaker 12>evergreen stuff that all ramps up, like the delivery notification

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<v Speaker 12>scams you've mentioned in the last segment, which I talked

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<v Speaker 12>about in here. You know again, I'll post a link

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<v Speaker 12>to this. It's on my LinkedIn blog. I'm easy to

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<v Speaker 12>find out there on LinkedIn or x and you know,

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<v Speaker 12>constantly trying to share this sort of stuff so that

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<v Speaker 12>people can avoid these things. But you mentioned the delivery

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<v Speaker 12>notification I get those. I'm sure every one of your

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<v Speaker 12>listeners has seen these, and I just want to our

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<v Speaker 12>mind folks again. Fishing, spoofing, social engineering altogether, it's hard

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<v Speaker 12>to look at the text and know whether it's legitimate

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<v Speaker 12>or not. And as more people use text, you couple

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<v Speaker 12>with that with the fact that it's difficult to know

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<v Speaker 12>whether it's legit, it's it's the perfect tool for scammers.

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<v Speaker 12>If you get the notification telling you the package is

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<v Speaker 12>delayed or whatever, just ignore it. And if you're concerned,

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<v Speaker 12>then you go to the retailer where you think you

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<v Speaker 12>bought something. You know, you log into their system, you

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<v Speaker 12>look at the status of the order, you get the

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<v Speaker 12>tracking numbers from them. And then you go to ups

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<v Speaker 12>dot you know co exactly you have. You know, you

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<v Speaker 12>go to the legitimate website with that tracking number. Don't

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<v Speaker 12>click the links, don't call those numbers. As we discussed

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<v Speaker 12>in the first segment, in many cases, these scammers have

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<v Speaker 12>call centers set up and they're waiting for your call.

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<v Speaker 12>They're going to pretend to be ever whoever they need

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<v Speaker 12>to be. They're going to tell you whatever lies they

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<v Speaker 12>need to say. I don't know if we've talked about

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<v Speaker 12>this or not, but it will help people understand. There's

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<v Speaker 12>a guy named Kit that's what he goes by. He's

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<v Speaker 12>got a YouTube channel ki T b O g a

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<v Speaker 12>dot com and he just scams these scammers. But he

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<v Speaker 12>films it all and it's not only funny, but it's

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<v Speaker 12>very insightful because you see the lies and how they'll

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<v Speaker 12>pivot and say or do anything to try to get

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<v Speaker 12>to your money. So you know that fake delivery notification

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<v Speaker 12>is a big one. Social media gift exchange where it's

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<v Speaker 12>some kind of pyramid scam and you send the gift

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<v Speaker 12>and you're gonna get more gifts, you know, Kevin, the

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<v Speaker 12>bottom line is and so I know we're almost out

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<v Speaker 12>of time. If it seems too good to be true,

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<v Speaker 12>it probably is. These big companies aren't going to call

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<v Speaker 12>you the deal seems too good to be true. Then

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<v Speaker 12>you go to the site you know it's a Target

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<v Speaker 12>or Deal or Amazon or whatever. Don't click the links,

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<v Speaker 12>don't call the numbers in an email or text or

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<v Speaker 12>anything you got social media, all of that is easily spookable.

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<v Speaker 12>You go to Target dot com or Amazon dot com

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<v Speaker 12>or wherever, and then you know, start digging into there.

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<v Speaker 12>That's by far the easiest and best way to ensure

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<v Speaker 12>that you don't end up getting scammed, because again, these guys,

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<v Speaker 12>they go where the people are. They're smart, the debis,

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<v Speaker 12>they're creative, and you know they will use whatever techniques

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<v Speaker 12>they can to try to get to your money, no

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<v Speaker 12>matter whether you're an individual or corporation. So be careful out.

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<v Speaker 2>There, Dave. I'd be willing to bet that if you

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<v Speaker 2>had a dollar for every time you said deal's too

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<v Speaker 2>good to be true, you'd be retired by now and

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<v Speaker 2>living someplace else other than the greater Cincinnati area, probably

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<v Speaker 2>own an island somewhere somewhere. War Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 12>Do you know I understand how people get caught up

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<v Speaker 12>in this especially around the holidays. You know you're looking

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<v Speaker 12>for that oft the gift. The timer's kicking, you have

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<v Speaker 12>a deadline, and you just got to understand these people

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<v Speaker 12>are very smart and they will tell.

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<v Speaker 2>You any lie exactly. Well, David, it was great talking

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<v Speaker 2>to you. We haven't run into each other in a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's about time though for a while. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>way too long, but always appreciate talking you. Always appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>meeting you when we're out and about and it's always

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<v Speaker 2>a good time talking to you. And you're a great

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<v Speaker 2>guy and this fan and a lot of great knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>and I appreciate your time here on Tech Tech Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>so always my pleasure. Have yourself happy new Year, be

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<v Speaker 2>safe out there, and thank you so much for the information.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, thanks Kevin, having new Year to you and your

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<v Speaker 12>family and all your listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>All righty, thank you so much. Dave Hatters, Since's cybersecurity expert.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five KRC,

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<v Speaker 2>the talk station