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Speaker 1: Hello everybody. I'm welcome. So that's not metal. We are

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your weekly rock, heavy metal, hardcore, heavy music podcast, and

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we are here with an addition of hyperblasts, our rapid

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fire little weekly news show where we let you know

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everything that's been going on or the releases that you

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are going to want to know about. It's a really fun,

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bizarre looking release week, this bunch. Let's get into it.

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My name is Parnhaish. With me across from me, joining

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for the news is Mark Sanderson Today.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Mark Joy good chow, old boy, I panicked.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio in uh, I've forgot more. The fucking the

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Great Gaspe. That's the name of that movie, isn't it.

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You're a bas Lerman man, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: That's the one I haven't seen.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the only ones I've seen, even though

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my mum took me to the cinema to see Australia

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when that was coming out. I don't know if anyone.

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I don't know if there are any Australia heads out there.

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How are we talking about Australia by Baz Lerman. About

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a minute into this metal podcast, there we go. Let's

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get onto the proper stuff that we have got to

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talk about. So we're gonna start the news today with

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in our little corner of you know, the internet and

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the rock community whatever are particularly exciting week, which is

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we've got news from AFI right now. No, it's not

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currently a UK tour or anything, although it's a new

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album cyd call so maybe thingers crossed, who fucking knows,

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But we do have a word of new music and

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actual new music. It's more than word, isn't. I don't

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know why I said that, following up The Bodies album,

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which is four years ago now already incredibly twenty twenty

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one was the The Bodies record, so I guess everyone's schedule.

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We have a new AFI album that is coming out

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in October, surely the most perfect month for an AFI

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album release. It's called Silver Bleeds the Black Sun, and

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we have a first single from it, which is called

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behind the Clock. And AFI new Music, you know the

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deal in terms of where are we gonna go? What

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sides of the AFI canvas are we gonna venture into

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the word that we have kind of gotten about this

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album ahead of it is quite interesting if you are

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a certain stripe of af FI fan, I suppose before

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we get into the music of what it sounds like

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when you press play on the music video, and maybe

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you will have seen photos from outside of this, I

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don't know, but certainly, when you press play on the

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music video a little short the way in, you are

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greeted by who else, of course Davey Havoc, But you

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are not prepared for how Davy Havoc appears in this video.

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And for the record, seemingly it doesn't seem to be

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just a video, it's just what Davey Havoc has popped

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up looking like. I don't remember the last time I

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saw Davy Havoc in public. I think it probably would

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have been about a year or two ago. They played

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a show in America where they played single Sorrow in full,

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and I watched a video of that, and I know

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he's had like the little rat tail things going on

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for a while, but you know, otherwise, he looked how

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Davey Havoc normally looks. I don't know how long Davy

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Havoc has to have been off grid to now emerge

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the way he has.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what okay.

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Speaker 1: This?

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Speaker 2: And there was shots of the band, just silhouettes of

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the band and I remember looking at that pinpointing where

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Davy was and going, man, a bet it looks fucking

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fab Oh my god, look it's here, A bet it

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looks amazing. And then I thought it was a joke.

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I saw a picture of him, and I thought it

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was a fucking meme. The mustache is horrid, horrible? Was

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he gone?

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Speaker 1: It looks like a disguise. It looks like in about

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two months time he's gonna whip it offel someone else

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is underneath, Like if there are any Twin Peaks fans

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out there. He gives me, mister tomurravite game fucking rochel

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marks looking ass hair as well beyond the mustache, the

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big like Bob Ross, silver like curly mop of hair

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and combined with the enormous like I haven't even seen

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the movie, but he looks like Benedict come the Batch

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in that new Wes Anderson film. How how is he again?

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this up? This is insan. If he's gathered this in

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like a matter of a couple of months or something,

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about it. But I think, I don't know. He is

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so beautiful and he's so glamorous and so suave, and

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popped up looking like fucking the fabulous gruffalo. I don't

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know what to do with myself, my lovely, beautiful man.

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Speaker 1: It's brilliant, Like it's better than you know, again the

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Body's hero. When it was like, okay, it's Davy and

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you know he's a handsome man as usual, but he's

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got these weird, scraggy little rat tails just kind of.

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Speaker 1: Now he's gone beyond that in as you say, like

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wild Man from the Hills, and is is he doing

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it intentionally in terms of like I feel like looking

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mental for a while, Like I'm tired of people telling

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Speaker 3: I have to like fend them off by.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark, Mark's outside my apartment. He won't leave me

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alone until I give my pic. I know.

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obviously the most you know, dramatic, but like like Hunter

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as well in the current. So I like the like

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and the weird porn tash era of afire in at

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the moment, but like the whole hair, the whole look.

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talking about the new album, and it was so jarring

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hearing normal voice Davy Havoc come out of that man now,

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because it's like, oh, you look at him now, and

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do you think he's gonna sound like Tom Waits or something,

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or like really scraggly And it's like, oh, yeah, it's

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still quite you know, well spoken Davy Haboit. But yeah,

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send in your thoughts about Davey Havoc's new look. I mean, Mark,

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you messaged me before we recording, like are we going

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to talk about Davey Havoc's fasual hair?

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Speaker 3: And of course we are.

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Speaker 1: It's like slip not getting a new mask, like it's

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major album cycle news, Like if we do it, wouldn't

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it be incredible if this actually turns out to be

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the album cycle where AFI get a UK show and

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all of us to look at that, all of us

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the AFI for the first time with Davy in fabulous

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gruffllo mode, like we never could have predicted that happening,

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but it would be in sensational.

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Speaker 2: This is what we get. This is the monkey park curling.

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Speaker 2: I guess, so this would be a bit more palatable

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if the song reflected the look in any sort of way. Oh,

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if you wanted it to be like the storm Age

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or just again a woodsman, you know, with an acoustic

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guitar or something. Yeah, I guess we should just not

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hear a song, and you know, again many strands of

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AFI fans, when I hear a song and it is

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more kind of burials slash, the darkest side of bodies,

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coded out of all the stuff that AFI had done before.

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probably more my speed of AFI than it is yours.

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I think this song is really cool and really, you know,

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whirls its way kind of around my head in an

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interesting way. We're obviously we're doubling down and leaning further

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than ever, perhaps into gothy post punk AFI with this,

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Burials album. Like I said, it turns up Bodies was

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album this will be representative of. They have said up

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about this though, like yet, like this, this is the album,

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like this we are trying to make our They've described

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it as their most like singular mood immersive sort of

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album where they are thoroughly going into dark, shadowy goth

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terrains for basically all of it by the sounds of it.

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people might not be so enthusiastic about that. Some people

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is wonderfully like quite wide screen in this weird goth

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thing it's doing, Like it's kind of it sounds like

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barrel of a gun. By Depeche Mode meets how Soon

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Is Now by the Smiths with that bit kind of

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like wow, like like reverby guitar. It's sort of in

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a tunnel guitar chords, which I think that bit in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would expect not big flowery bops AFI this

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time around. But if you're in, I know, I'm sorry

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but really like you know, smoldering mood piece AFI. I

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these days. And you know, even further in that direction

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and arrangement. The bassline is incredible, big kind of dramatic,

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cinematic sounding beat going along with it. I'm obviously really

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AFI together, because we already knew that No Sangua Voar

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with the cover art and everything, which is quite Creeper,

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are getting even further into like I don't know, that

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weird little corner of bands I like that do, like

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stuff like the in the Woods or whatever they've got,

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you know, a lady in chain mail or something, which like, yeah, cool,

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as part of the merchandise, which you know, you can

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go discover what kind of bullet. But that's a very

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good little pun.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it.

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Speaker 1: And we already had the song of Headstones, but we've

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got another song that's come out as well, and the

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Mercy meets Heaven is a Place on Earth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you feeling about the song?

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Speaker 1: I've listened to it like once, maybe twice. They seem

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to have very much like I don't know, I'm in

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a weird era with Creep that I almost sort of

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know what to expect, Like I know that we are

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getting because it's the second you know, single of a record,

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very I mean, it's you know, it's sort of cried

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to Heaven esque, isn't it in terms of the big

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you know, female eighties pop again Belinda Carlyle or whatever

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type choir. So I thought it's a fun track, but

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in here. There's no other word for it gushing like

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because it feels a bit I don't know. These two

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headstones in this one probably my two least favorite Creeper singles,

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which isn't to say I dislike them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had something, but yeah, when the song started

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with that hook and then the riff, I was like,

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this is gonna be my favorite song ever. I think

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it veers to Pestichi for me, where it is literally

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just heaven is a place on earth. Over the instrumental

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of you give Love a Bad Name, which should be

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my absolute bag, but I listened to it and I

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think you could do better than that.

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Speaker 1: Well you will see how much the second Sang of

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War record, Yes, over the course of it kind of

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goes beyond that and lives up to the first one,

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but obviously coming alongside the AFI record in October. I

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also know that by the time this episode is out,

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there's new Trivium coming. They've said that they've got an

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EP come in. There's a song that is not out

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at the time of recording, but you will probably have

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heard it by the time.

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Speaker 3: Listening to this.

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Speaker 1: I will be at Bloodstock where I know they will

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be playing it, so we'll have stuff to say about

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it next time. And my main trivial news this week

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is another very catty, funny little comment from mister Hafey

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when he was like, how come with new music and

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a new tour at the same time?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, keep them coming. Very funny, right.

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Speaker 1: So more new music that we do have right now

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comes from Undeath, who are also going to be in

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the UK this this week, and just ahead of that

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they dropped a little two track EP with two songs

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called Enter Patient and Endless Graveyard, which is very good

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and I liked about this. The last record, More Insane,

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was like the most polished thing they had done, and

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it sounds incredible, really high quality, you know, Mark Lewis

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production job and everything. Got a lot of praise rightly

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so for that. But it was nice following up that

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album to get an EP that was obviously done in

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a more kind of slightly more DIY fashion and being like, oh,

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we's slimy again, you know. Remind me of when two

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Mold used to drop the demos in between their albums

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of like, this is some stuff, but it's kind of

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in a raw form, and I liked hearing un Death

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go back to like, oh yeah, we're in like a

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we're in like the slimy demolic cavern or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it was recorded in a dungeon.

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It's it's great fun this. I love the last minute

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and a half of the first song, yeah, which is

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just like a hammer horror score.

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Speaker 1: Castle Vania organ. Yeah, that first track is very like

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you can slimy sort of death doo me as well.

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Speaker 3: Cool stuff.

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Speaker 1: Imagine they'll probably play one, if not both of those

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songs at you know, Bloodstock and the surrounding UK tour

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Wacken happened last weekend, I guess, and they, as they

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often do, announced a first round of bands for next

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year's event. Wacken is you know, inherently interesting of itself.

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Many many people go, but also here in the UK,

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if you are looking at from the UK lens, we

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do sometimes play a little game of sort of like

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Bloodstock prediction bingo with Wakan, you know, happening so close

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to Bloodock and share a certain kind of audience, and

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you know there's the bands who likely will not be

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playing Bloodstock because they go slightly above in terms of size.

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next year as they are for VACAN, I mean, it'd

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be pretty crazy, but you know, not necessarily expecting that.

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later because there is you know, a big Bloodtock announcement

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coming as part of the festival next week. So I

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imagine if any of these bands on this VACAN announcement

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are going to be at Bloodstock, they'll probably be on

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that announcement that's coming next week. But we have Death

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Leopard and Powerwolf as some headliners, as Inflames, their Savotage,

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Sepultura's final German show, their farewell tour really you know,

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stretching out and all sorts of other stuff going on

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here as well. Anything jump out at you, mark as

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just even if it wasn't to come to the UK,

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of band on there. I know,

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you like the trip to CON's ever heard of them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's again be very indulgent for me

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to spend too much time thinking about that, because that

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says exclusive, that's only at vacuum, but it is a

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weird billing. It's a best of show but with several

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worldwide live debuts is how it's build. So basically what

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that sounds like is they're gonna play some songs that

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have never been played before, which I'd have to go

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back and even think what that is because the big

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one was always a Dying God coming into human Flesh,

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which they played for the first time this year. So Tom,

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for whatever reason, seems to be in this mode of like, right,

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I'm gonna play all of the songs I haven't played before,

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which is fun. I imagine it won't extend to Cold Lake,

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so we'll not get every every single one. But yeah,

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I just don't know what is what they could be

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referred to the like what songs haven't they played that

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will turn up there? I'm in tried obviously we just

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won't get it here. I'm also intrigued by the fact

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that never More I believe I'm not saying this is

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the first show they've got announced since they we announced

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that they were like coming back, so we know that

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never More are going to be in it. Like if

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I was thinking, you know, crossing my fingers for anything

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on the Bloodstock announcement next week based on this vac

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and one I would love to see Nevermore next year.

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Speaker 2: Is that a Gathering reunion as well?

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think that they've been doing again a

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few exclusive shows with an eke back for like that

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kind of classic era, which will be really really cool

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to see if it came around the blood Fire Death

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Bathory show there which I saw this summer running whild

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They're gonna be playing their final show the og Pirate

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metal band, and again, as usually, there's plenty of you know,

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like metalcore stuff as well. They're orbit culture thrown any

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given day or a band I hadn't thought about in

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several years, but they're still there.

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Speaker 2: Didn't we see any given day?

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Speaker 1: I think we did about ten years ago or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and they covered Rhianna Stop. Question is interesting

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because I look at this and I think, well, our

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Bloodstop finally gonna get gutsy get airborne band in I.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't come playing if that happened. Blood Command are on

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there as well, So yeah, that cool stuff going on

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back and some stuff that I'm very intrigued by that

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I know we won't get, but also I guess we'll

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come back here next week and see what we do get.

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Cross Faith this week have annow it's sort of following

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up there.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: They've had a bit of a trail of news surrounding

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them for the past few weeks where one of their

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guitarists I can't reve to off my head if it

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was a founding guitarist or how long that guy I've

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been there, but one of their members was ousted for

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the bands due to inappropriate behavior, and Cross Faith were like,

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that's we're gonna go and kind of sort our stuff

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out for a while. They've said this week that they

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are unfortunately going to be put on kind of indefinite hiatus,

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and again we don't know how long that means. But

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considering like Cross They've put out their best record in

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over a decade easily last year, and it was like

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one of the better metical releases of last year. It

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is so unfortunate timing of this is it's like just

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when they were kind of really I don't know if

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of again and the core fan base it's always been there

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with them, but they were doing something cool, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Before the album, they were sort of in

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limbo a bit again, so it was nice to have

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them back actually be a band and delivering what I

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think is like some of the best Cross Faith material.

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I was really excited to be a Cross Faith fan again.

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And it is a bit like right as they're like

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ready to, I don't know, keep going and do more

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exciting stuff. Is a bit of a shame. It is admirable,

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I guess, like, I'm really glad they've handled it the

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way they have when lots of other bands just don't

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address stuff like this. So good for them. I'd like

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to see them come back sooner rather than later, but

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they need to sort of reflect and do their own thing.

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They can have as much time as they need. Basically

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yeah yeah ah, And then if everyone will allow me.

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Speaker 1: At the moment, I want to wax lyrical about one

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of my favorite bands, who, unfortunately we know now are

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no more, because the news came this week that Eric Wonder,

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the multi instrumentalist and the kind of primary brain behind

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the band Cobalt, as well as his other kind of

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more Americana project, Old Man's Gin. But the news broke

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unfortunately that he has passed away this week at he's

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I think he was like forty two or something like,

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you know, no real age, and this he was gutting

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to me because like I know, obviously, you know, we

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just were speaking about you know, Ozzy Osborne so much recently,

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and that's a figure that everybody knows. This is someone

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that a much more niche community of people really you know.

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Speaker 3: Feel this particular loss.

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Speaker 1: But Cobolt, if you don't know them, are one of

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my favorite but one of the best extreme metals certainly

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black metal bands of the two thousands and on, you know,

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just the twin in the first century in general. They

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were like one of the first bands really to kind

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of stamp a real identity of kind of americanness onto

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black metal in a way that you know, like they

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started off, you know, obviously taking influence from a lot

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of the Norwegian stuff and that, but the way they

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you know, they were one of the earliest bands doing

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this kind of like western laced Americana black metal in

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such a vivid and like you know, not gim the

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key at all, but really artistically cohesive and thought outweigh

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and they were you know, kind of there was a

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time in the naughties when you know USBM was bands

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like Kobolt and Natmistium and you know, Walls and the

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Throne and were just coming up at that time and

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stuff like that, you know, bands who were kind of

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setting out the standard of this really exciting movement that

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was that was going on. And Cobolt are one of

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the most idiosyncratic, immediately identifiable bands out of anyone to

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break at that time. They are one of the most

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like primarily aggressive, Like they have an ability to just

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flick the switch of just like the you know, lizard

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brain just animal violent instate in a way that few

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bands I've ever heard really managed to tap into that.

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But their sound was laced with so much of like

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what was exciting about the kind of new frontier of

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extreme metal in the two thousands. It was there in

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Cobolt with you know, post metally neurosis or isis kind

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of passages tool Like I don't know if I've ever

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heard a band honestly do tool in a new kind

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of context without it just feeling like, oh, here's a

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two minute kind of chin strokey tool passage, but like

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taking such you know, innovative influence, if that makes sense,

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like taking something from somewhere and doing it in a

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totally new way that you would not expect at all.

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I've never heard a band do that with tools music

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the way that American black metal band Cobalts sitting around

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their campfires and riding their horses and in that kind

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of world of you know, Western black metal. They were

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doing do that to the point that a few years ago,

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like when I was kind of you know, first starting

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to program that's not matter, I suppose, and we were

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doing album clubs every week, and I was like, Okay,

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you know, I've got a bit of room to you know,

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like we can sort of breathe a bit of new

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life in terms of the kind of records that would

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come on too album club And when I was thinking

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of like, what would be you know, a really interesting

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sort of maybe a deeper poll for your average audience,

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but like a really striking and just something that would

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just show how cool and diverse underground metal could be.

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Pretty early on, I went for Gin by Cobolt, which

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is one of the like masterpiece records of extreme metal

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and black metal in in the two thousands. Pregnant Insect

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is the best song that Jabo ever sings on the

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title track of Eter of Birds has one of the

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craziest explosions of violence, just like carnal violence in a riff.

473
00:24:58,079 --> 00:25:01,960
Ever put to tape, it's overwhel filming. And they, you know,

474
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,000
over the years they've kind of become and if you know,

475
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,000
you know band, because they've been silent for quite a

476
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:10,200
long time. But I have to think that they were

477
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,680
such an influence and inspiration on some of the new

478
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,559
bands we're enjoying today. You know, the way that there's

479
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,599
such a kind of a scene of like so many

480
00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:20,559
of the best and exciting acclaimed extreme bands coming around

481
00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:22,799
from places like Colorado in the US, That's where Cobalt

482
00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:25,400
were from. And you know, members of bands like Wayfairer

483
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,880
were cutting their teeth in the live band of Cobalt

484
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,640
and stuff like that. And the three album curve of

485
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,920
Era Birds, Gin and Slow Forever, the final double album

486
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,640
is one of the best three album curves of contemporary

487
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,640
twenty first century modern extreme metal. And I was, you know,

488
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,279
I was already missing them in terms of the nearly

489
00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:47,640
ten years now since the flut slof Forever record came out,

490
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,880
but you know, now continuing on, no one was really

491
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,440
able to touch what they were doing. No one wrote riffs,

492
00:25:54,599 --> 00:25:57,720
played drums, arranged music the way that Eric from Cobalt

493
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,240
did it. They were so individualistic and I I desperately

494
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,400
I was holding out hope for so long for another

495
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,920
album after Slow Forever and a tour as well, because

496
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,440
they looked sensational life, particularly that last line up with

497
00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:12,920
Charlie Fell on vocals. I wanted it live so badly,

498
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,960
and I'm desperately sad that we now won't hear more

499
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,680
from him. But if you don't know anything I've just

500
00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:23,759
spoken about and that kind of interests you, Cobolt. Those

501
00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:25,559
records I was talking about from the you know, the

502
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,160
late twenty of the early twenty tens, some of the

503
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,839
best records of the world that I love. And this

504
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,759
is a really big loss for me. I think that

505
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,440
Eric from Cobalt has gone. So I just wanted to

506
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,279
pay my respects there to someone who really in the

507
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,720
underground leaves an incredible legacy of music. So what else

508
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,559
have we got going on in the That's not a

509
00:26:46,599 --> 00:26:49,880
Metal world on the Patreon this past week, which if

510
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,359
anybody wants to support us, the best way to do

511
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,200
so is to sign up at the Patreon And it

512
00:26:56,279 --> 00:26:58,279
means so much it means the world because you basically

513
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,279
keep us going by doing that. But in the past

514
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:04,680
week or so, Sam and I we returned to our

515
00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:07,680
horror podcast, T's Horror Series, where we put up a

516
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,039
very in depth it took a lot of work to

517
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,000
really kind of dive into the guts of what those

518
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:16,119
things are about episode on the twenty eight Days Later

519
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,559
series that you know, currently a trilli of trilogy of

520
00:27:18,759 --> 00:27:21,440
there will be More, And like I said, it was,

521
00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:24,880
you know, in terms of a modern kind of title

522
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,400
that really just has so much going along. I think

523
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,160
there is almost a narrative arc of tracking history, particularly

524
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,720
of the British Isles, you know, through those three movies.

525
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,960
Getting into that was you know, very it was stimulating

526
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:40,039
Mark you and not on that show, but I know

527
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:41,640
that you are a big you know twenty eight days

528
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:47,400
Later head generally, and you were also absolutely baffled and

529
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:50,960
thrown by the way that twenty eight years Later ended

530
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:52,400
its final minutes.

531
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Speaker 3: Right that they're cooking, aren't they They're cooking something?

532
00:27:55,559 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: What the fuck? Man? The I'm so interested. There's got

533
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,079
a bit like there's gonna be a reason for it,

534
00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:06,039
and I cannot fucking wait.

535
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait either.

536
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: But that is the stuff that we are diving into

537
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:13,599
on our newest episode about twenty days, twenty days, twenty

538
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,920
eight weeks and twenty eight years later, some interesting stepment

539
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,400
of twenty eight weeks as the generally kind of underdiscussed one.

540
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,720
So that was the latest thing to go up. And then,

541
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:24,240
as I said, I believe last week, once I returned

542
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,720
from Bloodstock, we are going to really be cooking our

543
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:31,440
next music special, Mark smiling, because Mark has an interesting

544
00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:33,480
role in this thing. It's gonna be a lot that's

545
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,960
going on there. So if you want to see what's

546
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,960
happening there, as said patron dot com slash, that's the

547
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:40,880
metal is the place to hear everything that we've got

548
00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:44,559
going on over there and all of the most ridiculous

549
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:46,480
and most in depth. I think those two things I've

550
00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:49,400
just discussed and laid out do kind of cover both

551
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,599
bases there stuff that we make. So yeah, cheers, everybody.

552
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,160
Let's end this on releases for the eighth of August

553
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,839
twenty twenty five. And like I lude to up tot

554
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,079
as kind of an interesting, I don't know, diverse batch

555
00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:05,799
of names where you go ay for some of them

556
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,519
up today so we're gonna start with Baby Metal their

557
00:29:09,519 --> 00:29:13,039
new album Metal Fourth. They are, you know, quite productive

558
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:14,599
these days, really, aren't. They've always got seem to have

559
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,960
something around the corner from baby Metal, constant collaborations and whatnot.

560
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,200
I'm sure this record will be full of them. So

561
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,480
the new Baby Metal record is out. Hailstorm are back

562
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:25,839
with their record calld Everest. I saw several of these

563
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,759
songs live supporting Iron Maiden the other week, so the

564
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:32,440
new Hailstorm record is out. Good Charlotte have a record

565
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,960
out as well called Motel Do cap mark? Do you

566
00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:39,279
have thoughts or opinions on an upcoming Good Charlotte record?

567
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: I heard one of the singles and it was one

568
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,440
of the worst songs I've heard this year.

569
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: Good endorsement and if you want to carry that on.

570
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:52,519
Lord of the Lost are back with not a covers

571
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:55,240
album this time, but seemingly the first of a series

572
00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:55,880
of records.

573
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,079
Speaker 3: They're releasing an album.

574
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,039
Speaker 1: Called Opus Noir Volume one.

575
00:29:59,400 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: So.

576
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's worth a volume two. I guess I may

577
00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:05,759
see some Lord of the Lost this weekend because they're

578
00:30:05,759 --> 00:30:08,279
are bloodstock, so count me in.

579
00:30:08,279 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: Again, I guess.

580
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: As December falls, the UK pop rock band. I guess

581
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,559
they've got a record called Everything's on Fire. But I'm

582
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,079
fine first Born, which is the sort of like I know,

583
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,480
trad rocky trad metal band that Chris Adler joined after

584
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,359
leaving Lamb of God. They've got a record called Lucky.

585
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,559
This is the one that really jumped out when I

586
00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:31,160
was like a looking at the listings, Attack Attack with

587
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:35,279
a record called Attack Attack Too. Now I don't know,

588
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:38,039
I am aware Attack Attack there are variants of them, right,

589
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:40,000
and it's down to how many exclamation marks they have.

590
00:30:40,319 --> 00:30:43,720
I think I'm right in saying there there's attack exclamation mark,

591
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:47,039
Attack exclamation mark, and then a different band with just

592
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:49,920
the one exclamation mark at the end. This is the

593
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,559
single exclamation mark Attack Attack exclamation mark. So when it

594
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:56,759
was Attack Attack two, I was like, surely Attack Attack.

595
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 3: Of more albums than that.

596
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: But I guess this is the other Attack Attack It

597
00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:03,240
might be to do. I don't know if like Caleb

598
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:07,519
Schomo or whoever is involved with this, whichever, I'm not

599
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:09,599
down with the attack Attacked lineage. But one of the

600
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,680
Attack Attacks has attack Attack too out and a trust

601
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,200
mark that you will go listen to it and tell

602
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:16,720
me about it.

603
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:17,839
Speaker 3: So that I don't actually have.

604
00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: To into the underground. Black Braid a back with Black

605
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,000
Braid three more albums than Attack Attack. The third Black

606
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,960
Braid album obviously the second Black Braid album for a

607
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,519
couple of years ago, I thought was excellent.

608
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: So looking forward to getting stuck into that.

609
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: Since Sanam are back with an album called in Devastation

610
00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:37,920
if you vaguely remember that name. That was a kind

611
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,960
of death metal band that featured Joey Jordison on the drums,

612
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,680
as well as like several like extreme metal legends like

613
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,200
a Tilla from Mayhem is on vocals and stuff like that.

614
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,960
And obviously Joey Jordison is no longer part of this.

615
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:52,920
I think that this is an album that they kind

616
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,599
of had in the works and they've got another drummer

617
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,799
and to kind of like finish it and put it

618
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:58,039
out in his memory to some degree. But you know,

619
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:01,279
after a few years distance, insaneom album is seeing the

620
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:04,799
light of day. The Japanese, I guess Black Kay's band

621
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,039
as soon a Yokai. They have returned with an album

622
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:09,799
this week. I didn't know what's coming, but it's called

623
00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:12,480
Think of You and Mark, I know that you like

624
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,839
that band a fair bit because it's Japanese dream poppy

625
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:18,359
style black metal, which is like Mark all over.

626
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: Yep. I had no idea about this until right now,

627
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,119
and I'm very excited to hear it.

628
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,519
Speaker 1: Yep, you will go right after this, I'm sure. A

629
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:29,720
band that I love the Irish death metal band Malthusian

630
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,440
with Johnny King on the drums, who's played drums for Otter,

631
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,960
was of Plague Cone and several great bands. They are

632
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,960
back with their second full length album. They take quite

633
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,319
a long time between their albums, so this is a

634
00:32:39,319 --> 00:32:41,680
bit of an event called the Summoning Bell, and with

635
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,319
this one they've stepped up from one of the small

636
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:45,279
little extreme metal labels Thatch I knew them to be on,

637
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,759
so now they're on relapse with this. So maybe a

638
00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:49,799
bit more going on with Althusian, which is interesting to say,

639
00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:51,480
but I love that band, so I'm looking I was

640
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:53,200
getting stuck into that as well. That's probably the release

641
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,279
I'm most looking forward to hearing this week, although I'm

642
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:58,359
also looking forward to hearing the EP that's coming out

643
00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:04,359
from Cryptsom called Saturnian Apprentices, the great trad doom metal

644
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,359
band following up their fantastic last album with an EP

645
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:11,400
of some pretty good sounding i'm sure new tracks and

646
00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:15,240
their cover of Mayhem's Mysteries Dum Satanas is on there,

647
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:19,039
which what a pick for a cleanly sung doom metal

648
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:22,160
bands to be doing. Fantastic and then there's a second

649
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,759
EP as well from the death core band Aversions Crown,

650
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:28,119
who are returning with a record called A Voice from

651
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,240
the Outer Dark. So that's your lot. You know which way,

652
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,319
Western man, I'm sure there's lots of directions you could

653
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:38,599
be going out of all of those cool stuff. Next week. Well, actually,

654
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,680
you know, this coming weekend as you are hearing this,

655
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,799
will be at Bloodstock Festival. So next week we'll be

656
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:47,119
back with coverage from said festival. We'll be letting you

657
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,599
know the best stuff that happened. Obviously, the announcement for

658
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,720
next year is coming as well, but we will be

659
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:55,440
back with that and then we'll keep all the usual

660
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,920
things rolling. So cheers everybody for being with us this time.

661
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:00,799
Let us know, of course, you have to let us

662
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:02,160
know the hot topic of the week, what are your

663
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,559
opinions on Daily Havoc's facial hair, And we will see

664
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:06,640
you again next time.

665
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Speaker 3: Bye bye,