WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.480 Everyone, and welcome back to the program. Today. We're gonna 2 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:07.960 jump right back into the headlines and see what we 3 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:12.519 might have missed overnight and where things currently stand as 4 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:16.519 of this morning. So let's see what the Independent has 5 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:21.559 for us today. Today's article is from The Independent headline 6 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:26.920 Idaho murders. Victim's father says Adam mentioned a new video 7 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:30.760 isn't a suspect in the Moscow stabbings. This article was 8 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:36.520 authored by Rachel Sharp and Andrea Blanco. New surveillance footage 9 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:39.280 has come to light showing two of the slain University 10 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:43.119 of Idaho's students walking through downtown Moscow with a man 11 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:47.840 as they discussed an unidentified individual named Adam, just hours 12 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:52.399 before they were brutally murdered. The video captures Kaylee Gonsalbiz 13 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:55.240 and Madison Mogan with what appears to be the same 14 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:58.119 man known as Hoodie Guy, who they were with when 15 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:00.880 they stopped at late night food spot the grub Trug. 16 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:04.319 Police have already ruled this man out as a suspect. 17 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:08.239 In the video, Gonsalvis appears to ask Mogan, Maddie, what 18 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:11.920 did you say to Adam? Like I told Adam everything. 19 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:15.439 A second female voice response now I find all of 20 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:19.280 this very interesting. You have her talking here about somebody 21 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:23.840 named Adam who she told everything to. Right, What is everything? 22 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:27.040 What was going on with these girls inside of their 23 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:32.120 circle here or in their lives that she told Adam everything? Now, 24 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:34.719 it could be something very mundane, or it could be 25 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:38.640 something that could lead to cracking this case. We just 26 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:41.959 don't know. And there's all of these little clues, but 27 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:45.239 they don't add up to a big picture, at least 28 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:48.920 not from our perspective. What the investigators are looking at 29 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:52.400 that's a different thing. But what we see here, it's 30 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:56.280 all like a scrambled TV screen almost. You know, if 31 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:58.560 you turn the dial real quick, you might get a 32 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:01.319 little bit of a picture, but never going to be 33 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:04.120 able to see the whole show. And that's kind of 34 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:07.000 where we're at here. Like there's all of these names 35 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:10.719 and we hear about all of these people, and she says, oh, 36 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:13.479 I told Adam everything, So that leads me to believe 37 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:16.080 that there was something going on. Right, and then you 38 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:18.840 look forward in the future a little bit and they 39 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:20.759 get home and they make all of these phone calls 40 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.560 to the ex boyfriend. So what was going on? What 41 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:28.919 was the issue here? The friction where she told Adam everything. 42 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:36.439 Gonsalva's father, Steve Gonsalves, told Fox News that investigators were 43 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:39.680 already aware of the footage and that the individual named 44 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:43.520 Adam is not a suspect in the murders. And I'm 45 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:45.520 totally on board with that. I don't think he's a 46 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:47.960 suspect either. I don't have any information to tell me that. 47 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:51.560 But what was the conversation right, What were they talking 48 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:55.319 about and what was the issue that she felt the 49 00:02:55.439 --> 00:03:01.000 need to tell Adam about. After visiting the food truck, 50 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:04.159 Gonsalvas and Mogan got a ride home, arriving at their 51 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:07.400 student rental home at around one fifty six am on 52 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:11.680 November thirteenth. The two best friends, their roommate Xana Kernodle, 53 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:15.479 and Kernodle's boyfriend Ethan Chapin, were stabbed to death in 54 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:18.879 the home at around three am or four am. The 55 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:23.439 killer remains at large. Will the Idaho college murders become 56 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:27.560 America's next cold case. It's been one month since four 57 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:31.719 Idaho students were brutally murdered, and fears are growing that 58 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:35.840 the case is going cold. Rachel Sharp and Josh Marcus 59 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:39.560 explore a troubling trend in America's homicide clearance rates and 60 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:43.919 what happens to the families and communities left waiting for answers. 61 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:47.960 The Independent has an article that goes along with the 62 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:51.159 cold cases and unsolved murders, and we're gonna do that 63 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:54.840 article in the future here later on today, so we're 64 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:57.360 not going to delve too deep here. But I don't 65 00:03:57.400 --> 00:03:59.599 think we're at a point where we can say it's 66 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:02.599 a cold case yet. Obviously we're not there. There's still 67 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:06.400 tips coming in, there's still a lot of personnel working 68 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:09.000 on the case. But to think that it can't get 69 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:11.840 to a point where it's a cold case, that's pretty 70 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:14.919 silly to think, because we've seen time and time again 71 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:18.240 these cases go cold, and we've seen time and time 72 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:21.600 again people get away with murder. So I know there's 73 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:24.959 a lot of folks out there that have just incredible 74 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:28.759 faith in the FBI, in the police, in the investigators, 75 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:32.319 and that's awesome. I hope that your faith is not misplaced, 76 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:36.279 and I hope that you're correct. But me, I have 77 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:39.160 a very wait and see attitude when it comes to 78 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:43.000 these investigations. We've seen way too many of them go south. 79 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:45.600 Now I don't think we're there yet here, and I 80 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:48.720 think that all of the leads haven't been chased down yet. 81 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:52.279 But there is a point that you're gonna come to 82 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:55.160 if nobody has been arrested or brought in, where you're 83 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:58.920 gonna have to start accepting the fact that this case 84 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:02.079 is going to go cold. Now. Again, I don't think 85 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:04.319 we're there yet, and I think we have quite a 86 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:07.079 ways to go, but we can't be naive and think 87 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:10.439 that this case can't go down that path. We've seen 88 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:14.000 plenty of cases with a lot of resources, a lot 89 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:21.240 of attention in the media not get solved. Investigators exploring 90 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:25.160 possibility mystery driver might not own the white car. Well, 91 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:28.160 I've been saying this since the car popped up. Who 92 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.040 in the hell is going to use their own car 93 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:34.319 to commit murder like this? If this person planned this 94 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:38.120 all out and premeditated these murders, don't you think that 95 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:40.439 they would try and figure out a way to get 96 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:43.959 away with it. And to do that, you certainly wouldn't 97 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:45.839 want to be in a car that was registered to 98 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:49.399 you or one of your friends, because that's easy to 99 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:52.240 trace back. That's easy to track back, And that's why 100 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:55.600 I said if they had that information and they knew 101 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:58.639 what was going on with this car or had any idea, 102 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:02.199 they would have already traced back to the person, like say, 103 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:04.759 this was somebody who was around these kids all the 104 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:07.720 time and was driving to parties, going to football games, 105 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:11.800 driving around Moscow. People would have recognized the car already 106 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:15.079 and we would have had more movement towards who owns it. 107 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:17.959 But we haven't seen any of that. So it leads 108 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:20.920 me to believe or at least speculate here that that 109 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:27.839 car was possibly stolen. Investigators are said to be exploring 110 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:30.680 the possibility that the mystery driver of the white Honde 111 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:33.800 a Lantra might not own the vehicle. For more than 112 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:36.879 a week, Moscow police have been searching for the occupant 113 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:39.839 or occupants of a white car seen in the immediate 114 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:42.839 area of the crime scene at the time of the murders. 115 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:48.040 Kaylee Gonsalva's father, Steve Gonsalvez, said that investigators have done 116 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:50.879 due diligence on the car and have not been able 117 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:54.240 to track down the occupants. They've kind of informed us 118 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:57.879 through communications that they've checked all the easiest pass he 119 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:01.399 told Fox News on Saturday, and again just using common 120 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:04.240 sense as a guide, it would lead you to believe 121 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:09.000 that the investigators looked at the easiest pathway first, right, 122 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:12.680 registered owners people in Moscow, that sort of thing, and 123 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:15.439 when you run out of road there and you've exhausted 124 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:19.079 all of those possibilities, well, obviously that car came from 125 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:22.360 somewhere else. Now the question is where did it come 126 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:27.279 from and who was driving it? If this individual had 127 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:29.560 this car registered to his name and it was just 128 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:32.160 something very quick that they could just look up in 129 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:34.759 the area and go right to his house, they've done 130 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:37.360 all the due diligence here. They've done all of that. 131 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:40.319 So now they're reaching out and they're going to look 132 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:43.920 to the community to see if this individual borrowed this car. 133 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:46.680 And I know a lot of people won't want to 134 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.800 hear this one, but here it is with them reaching 135 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:52.519 out like this and not knowing who owns the car, 136 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:55.399 not knowing if it's owned by the person or if 137 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:57.959 it's borrowed, that leads me to believe that they have 138 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:02.319 nothing else. All they have is the digital puzzle pieces 139 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:04.720 that they've put together of the car being in the 140 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:09.600 vicinity several different times, in different frames, in different surveillance cameras, 141 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:12.920 But besides that, they really don't have anything else to 142 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:15.560 go on. And if this was an easy lead to 143 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.800 track down, like mister Gonsalba says here, they would have 144 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:23.680 already tracked it down. He added, it doesn't appear that 145 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:26.680 it's something that they have real easy access to, so 146 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:30.399 he may have ran. And they really pushed the narrative, saying, hey, 147 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.080 if we can get these guys to focus on something 148 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:36.399 that's really helpful, which is this car and find out 149 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:39.120 if somebody says, hey, you know that car looks a 150 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:41.759 lot like mine, I'm going to come forward and just 151 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:44.879 volunteer my information, and then they can figure out if 152 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:48.639 somebody else had borrowed it or if heck, who knows. 153 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:51.240 And again, this is where the reward comes in, right, 154 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:54.679 how many people are gonna come forward if they think 155 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:56.440 that their car was used in a crime like this? 156 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:01.720 Not for free? Now you offer a couple of fazzules, 157 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:04.720 Well that's a whole different ballgame. You're gonna get these 158 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:09.879 people to play ball and start talking. But who knows 159 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:12.639 where this car is at this point? I mean, if 160 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:15.559 you go back to the Little Miss murder case, look 161 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:17.559 what the killer did in that case, he used a 162 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:20.559 whole ass backo dug a hole on his property and 163 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:23.480 put her a car in that hole so nobody could 164 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:26.519 find the car, and then obviously nobody find the girl 165 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:30.039 that he murdered. So there's ways to get rid of cars. 166 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:32.679 And if this car was hot, forget about it. It's 167 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:37.840 already long gone. Why murders can take a long time 168 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:42.399 to solve. While it is perfectly understandable that the public 169 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:46.919 wants a quick resolution in shocking murder cases, Professor David Carter, 170 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:50.840 a criminologist who has studied police clearance rates, says this 171 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:55.000 often doesn't match up with the reality of police work. Well, 172 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:59.759 how many police investigations have the resources that we see here? 173 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.720 Not very many, right, So when you have these kinds 174 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:05.240 of resources, that takes it to a different level in 175 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:08.120 my opinion, and you should be able to clear homicides 176 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:12.960 a lot quicker when you have more resources. The more 177 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:16.639 expansive the crime scene and the crime, the longer it 178 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:20.559 takes to investigate. I understand the community need and social 179 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:23.279 media need, he tells The Independent. We want to know 180 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:26.799 what happened, we want to know who the suspect is. However, 181 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:29.960 he says a case like the Idaho murders has numerous 182 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:33.559 elements that police need to work through slowly and deliberately 183 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.519 to get things right. A large crime scene, extensive blood 184 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:41.480 at the murder site, and multiple victims. Then there's all 185 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:45.679 the usual elements of police work, interviewing witnesses, searching for 186 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:51.759 surveillance footage, and cross referencing information between different evidentiary sources. 187 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:55.960 It's incredibly time consuming to do all this, Professor Carter said, 188 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:58.799 And usually he's right when you have one or two 189 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:02.559 detectives who are working on a case. But we don't 190 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:05.440 have that here, right. We have a whole ass department, 191 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:08.159 a bunch of resources from the state Police, we have 192 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:12.039 the FBI, So there's a ton of resources here and 193 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:15.000 that should affect the clearance rate, will it, We'll have 194 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:19.759 to see. Victim's father says he fears for safety of 195 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:23.759 other children. Kaylee Gonsalve's father has said that he fears 196 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:27.519 for the safety of his other children as his daughter's 197 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:31.360 killer is still at large. Steve Gonsalvez told Fox News 198 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:34.919 on Saturday that he wants families to know information about 199 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:37.120 the case so that they can be on the lookout 200 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:40.320 for potential suspects as He revealed that one of his 201 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:44.000 other children will soon be attending the University of Idaho. 202 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:47.759 And you wonder why mister Gonsalves is so adamant about 203 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:50.480 finding out what went on here and about not letting 204 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:54.159 things get smoothed over. Not only has he lost his daughter, 205 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:56.919 he has another child that he's about to be sending 206 00:11:56.919 --> 00:12:02.679 to this same school. I have another person going to 207 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:04.720 school there, and I don't want them walking around the 208 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:07.480 streets if it's not safe, he said. We know as 209 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:10.279 a family what we're looking for, and if they see 210 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:13.399 an individual looking a certain way, I'm telling my kids 211 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:16.080 to steer clear of that. So I want other families 212 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:19.799 to know. Investigators have so far kept a profile of 213 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:24.120 the killer under wraps, though mister Gonsalvez has revealed that 214 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:27.240 it is a male, and we heard that from Jennifer 215 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:30.840 Coffin Daffer as well, the x FBI agent who has 216 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:33.639 worked a ton of these cases. And it makes sense, right, 217 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:36.440 It definitely tracks with everything we know. You'd have to 218 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:38.279 have a lot of rage, a lot of power, a 219 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:40.480 lot of strength. So it leads me to believe that 220 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:43.799 it's a male. Now, who that person is, that's the 221 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:51.159 billion dollar question at this point, how successful is Moscow 222 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:55.559 PD with solving crimes. The families of the four victims 223 00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:58.840 and residents of the small college town are living in 224 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:02.200 hope that the murders will soon be solved. But there 225 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:05.519 may be one detail about the Moscow Police Department that 226 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:10.120 gets those searching for justice in Idaho murders concern. Police 227 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:13.279 there tend to do far worse than their counterparts across 228 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:17.320 the state solving crimes that sure induces confidence. Huh. Up 229 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:19.960 until the student killings, there hadn't been a murder in 230 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:23.799 Moscow since twenty and fifteen, so it's difficult to compare 231 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:27.320 the department's homicide record to other agencies around the state 232 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:32.679 and country. However, generally speaking, Moscow police only cleared about 233 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:36.039 a quarter of Group A crimes between twenty and sixteen 234 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:40.080 and twenty twenty one, according to the Independence Analysis of 235 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:44.360 state data, a broad category which includes everything from murder 236 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:47.720 to theft. The state average during this same time period 237 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:51.679 was a clearance rate over fifty percent. So again, look, 238 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:55.519 it doesn't inspire very much confidence if you can't clear 239 00:13:55.679 --> 00:14:03.159 Group A crimes. We're talking about, you know, theft and murder, arson, whatever. 240 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:05.960 I don't have that much confidence that you're gonna show 241 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:09.159 up here and end up being, you know, the greatest 242 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:11.879 inspectors in the history of the world. And remember, the 243 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:14.879 FBI wasn't there right away. It took a couple of 244 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:18.159 days for the FBI to get involved. And those first 245 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:21.360 forty eight hours are very, very crucial for these kinds 246 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:26.200 of investigations. And if evidence is missed or contaminated within 247 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:29.399 those golden hour periods, forget it. You can really throw 248 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:32.960 your investigation off the tracks. From Jump Street. Now, I'm 249 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:35.279 not saying that's what happened. I don't know. I wasn't there, 250 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:38.240 But what I do know is it's six weeks and 251 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:41.519 nobody has been brought to justice. All Right, folks, that's 252 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:44.320 gonna do it for this morning's update. That's where things 253 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:47.960 currently stand as of now, and as more information becomes 254 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:51.080 available today, obviously we'll be adding it to the catalog. 255 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:54.279 If you'd like to contact me, you can do that 256 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:59.159 at Bobby Capuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo bbuy 257 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:04.360 cap Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find 258 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:10.480 me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore cap u Cci. The 259 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:13.279 link that I discussed can be found in the description 260 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:18.000 box what's up everyone, and welcome back to the program. 261 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:21.679 Earlier during the morning Update, we were talking about the 262 00:15:21.799 --> 00:15:26.600 video that was just unearthed with Kaylee and Madison and 263 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:30.720 someone named Adam. So I thought on this episode we'd 264 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:34.399 add a little more context about who Adam is and 265 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:38.639 what his role in all of this allegedly is. So 266 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:41.440 to do that, we have an article from The Independent 267 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:46.559 headline new video shows Idaho students discussing mystery man named 268 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:52.000 Adam hours before the college murders. Now Steve Gonsalvez has 269 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:55.320 said that Adam has nothing to do with these murders, 270 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:59.120 and the police obviously know about this tape, know about 271 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:03.960 the interaction here, and my guess is they investigated this 272 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:08.559 interaction and they don't believe that Adam has anything to 273 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:12.720 do with it. This article was authored by Rachel Sharp. 274 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:18.039 Newly obtained surveillance footage has come to light, purportedly showing 275 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:21.639 two of the slain University of Idaho students walking through 276 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:27.320 downtown Moscow discussing a mystery individual named Adam, just hours 277 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:32.519 before they were brutally murdered, and without context. Obviously that 278 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:35.759 seems to be somebody who might be involved here. Right, Oh, 279 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:38.720 they were with this person right before their murders. Definitely 280 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:41.240 a suspect. But if you and I are thinking that, 281 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:44.519 you know that the police have already run down this lead, 282 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:47.600 and they've already taken a look at who this Adam 283 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:52.720 guy might be and what the interactions are. The video 284 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:56.360 captures Kelle Gonsalvez and Madison Mogan walking together with a 285 00:16:56.360 --> 00:17:00.480 man in the early hours of November thirteenth. The man 286 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:03.759 appears to be the same individual known in social media 287 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:06.960 circles as Hoodie Guy, who the two best friends were 288 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:09.839 with when they stopped by a late night food spot, 289 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:14.440 the Grub Truck. Now, obviously, Hoodie Guy has been somebody 290 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:17.559 that people have been pointing fingers at for quite some time, 291 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:21.799 but investigators time and time again say that Hoodie Guy 292 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:25.279 has nothing to do with this. Some people they just 293 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:27.599 won't let it go though. It's like a bone, right, 294 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:29.839 a dog with a bone, and they just won't let 295 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:32.960 it go. However, what I will say is when the 296 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:35.279 police go back and say stuff like we can go 297 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:39.039 back and reinterview people, well, it certainly keeps, you know, 298 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:44.279 the theory if you will alive. For some people, some 299 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:47.680 people won't even believe who the murderer is when the 300 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:51.160 person gets arrested, they'll still think it's their theory. There 301 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:54.440 are people out there that are that crazy. Folks believe it. 302 00:17:56.920 --> 00:17:59.319 Police have already ruled him out as a suspect in 303 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:02.720 the murders. In the video, a voice believed to belong 304 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:06.200 to Gonsalves asks Maddie, what did you say to Adam? 305 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:10.240 Like I told Adam everything. A second female voice response. 306 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:13.079 It is not clear who the man named Adam is, 307 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:17.079 but Gonsalve's grieving father said he is not a suspect 308 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:20.640 in his daughter's homicide. Now, if Steve Gonsalves is saying that, 309 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:23.240 I tend to believe him, because this is a man 310 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:26.039 who is hell bent on justice at this point, and 311 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:28.279 if he thought this person had anything to do with it, 312 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:31.319 I doubt that mister Gonsalves would be so quick to 313 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:34.480 write old boy off. But again, look, it's very confusing, 314 00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:37.519 and we only have what the police have given us, 315 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:40.799 and as you all know, it's a very minimal amount 316 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:44.359 of information to go on. But mister Gonsalvez doesn't strike 317 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:46.759 me as the type of guy that's going to be 318 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:50.519 exing people out of the investigation, unless, of course, an 319 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:57.039 investigation has already been had. Steve Gonsalves told Fox News 320 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:00.240 that investigators were already aware of the footage and that 321 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.720 the mystery man named Adam is not connected or believed 322 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:06.799 to be connected to the killings. We've had the film 323 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:09.559 for a while. I believe the business reached out to 324 00:19:09.640 --> 00:19:12.240 us directly after they had given it to the police, 325 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:16.039 he said. He added, we did the obvious due diligence 326 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:18.720 and we looked into that and it was pretty clear 327 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.279 that this individual is not part of the investigation as 328 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:25.000 far as being a suspect. So I think that's pretty 329 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:29.559 definitive right And anybody out there that's still harboring suspicions 330 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:34.200 about Adam here, I would think that mister Gonsalvez would 331 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:37.799 be a little bit more amped up if he thought 332 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:40.640 that Adam might have anything to do with what happened 333 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:45.960 to his daughter. Mister Gonsalves said it was comforting to 334 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:49.920 see his daughter and her friend enjoying their last night together. 335 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:53.720 It's kind of comforting as it's just two girls having 336 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:56.599 a good time talking and just being girls on their 337 00:19:56.640 --> 00:19:59.640 way to the grub truck, he said. Imagine that being 338 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:02.400 the last view of your daughter I just can't get 339 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:05.960 over that. I can't wrap my mind around it. Your 340 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:09.119 a young, vibrant child who you sent off to college 341 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:13.000 to begin the next part of her life ends up 342 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:16.240 dying while at that college. And we're not talking about 343 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:19.720 an accident here. We're not talking about a car crash 344 00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:23.200 or falling off of the bleachers at the football game. 345 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:28.319 We're talking about being murdered, gruesomely murdered while in her bed. 346 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:31.240 How you can come around to that and come to 347 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:34.640 grips with that as a parent is certainly beyond me. 348 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:41.200 The newly surfaced footage was captured by a local Moscow resident, 349 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:44.440 who has handed it over to the police. The video 350 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:47.680 was then shared with the University of Idaho Murders Case 351 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:51.839 Discussion Facebook group, which then provided it to Fox News Digital. 352 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:54.119 So it's been out there for a while. The video 353 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:57.400 has been floating around, and Fox News is just getting 354 00:20:57.400 --> 00:21:00.319 their hands on it, and we the public are just 355 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:03.640 getting a whiff of it. As far as the narrative 356 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:08.440 in the legacy media, it's not clear exactly what time 357 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:11.160 the footage was taken, but it appears to be prior 358 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:14.440 to Gonsalvez and Mogen paying a visit to The Grubrug 359 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:19.519 investigators previously said that Gonsalvez and Mogan spent the night 360 00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:22.599 at the Corner Club bar in the downtown area, leaving 361 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:25.680 there at around one point thirty am and walking to 362 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:28.839 the food truck. After ordering food at the late night 363 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:32.400 food spot, they got a sorority service ride home, arriving 364 00:21:32.440 --> 00:21:35.440 at their student rental home on King Road at around 365 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:39.599 one fifty six am on November thirteenth. The driver who 366 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:42.559 gave them a ride home is also not considered a 367 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:45.759 suspect in the case. So there's a lot of people 368 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:48.119 that have been ruled out right, a lot of people 369 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:52.000 that have been xed off the list. It would be 370 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:54.839 nice if there were some people in the other column. Right, 371 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:57.599 this is a suspect, This is a person of interest, 372 00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:00.759 And I just can't wait till we get to that point, 373 00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:04.279 the point where whoever is responsible for this has to 374 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:09.880 pay dearly. The two best friends, their roommate's Ana Kernodle 375 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:13.599 and Kernodle's boyfriend Ethan Chapin, were stabbed to death in 376 00:22:13.680 --> 00:22:17.279 the home at around three am or four am, more 377 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:20.039 than one month on. The killer remains at large, with 378 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:25.119 no suspects identified and no arrests made. Christine Cameron and 379 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:29.359 Elina Smith, the creators and administrators of the Facebook group 380 00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:32.359 which first uploaded the footage, said it gives a bigger 381 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:35.039 picture of what happened in the lead up to the murders, 382 00:22:35.359 --> 00:22:38.400 and folks that's super important. It's very important to have 383 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:41.160 all the context, or at least all of the context 384 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:44.319 available at the time of the story because it helps 385 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:47.400 to put pieces in place. Right. You have people out 386 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:50.599 here thinking Hoodie Guy was somebody who might be involved 387 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:53.839 in the murders, Whereas if there's a bigger picture of 388 00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:58.240 him and his behavior and perhaps his relationship with these girls, 389 00:22:58.759 --> 00:23:02.240 then maybe that puts him in different light. So for me, 390 00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:06.079 I'm a big fan of context in every single facet 391 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:09.559 of my life, but especially when we're talking about something 392 00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:12.240 like this, because if you don't have the proper context, 393 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:15.200 you're going to be on the wrong path. From Jump Street, 394 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:18.559 ms Cameron told Fox that it shows that Hoodie Guy 395 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:21.640 had been with the victims prior to their visit to 396 00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:24.599 the food truck, appearing to debunk some of the rumors 397 00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:28.000 and conspiracies swirling about the man online. So a lot 398 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:30.279 of people thought he was at the food truck when 399 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:32.920 the girl showed up and then had like a sketchy 400 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:36.759 interaction with him there. But what this is saying to us, 401 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:38.839