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<v Speaker 1>Joe's a friend, and I was trying to be gentle

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<v Speaker 1>with him about what I regard as being a dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>tilt that he and some other podcasters are encouraging. What

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<v Speaker 1>I really maybe should have said, then can now, is

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody recognizes his expertise in the areas they know about.

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<v Speaker 1>I get very annoyed when I hear people who are

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<v Speaker 1>in no way recognizably historians, in no way recognizably expert

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<v Speaker 1>in the subjects they talk about regurgitating false versions of

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<v Speaker 1>history that I saw debunked already in my lifetime. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an area of the American right which is at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment simply reheating David irvingism.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sick of talking about Douglas Murray, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>you are too, But it's important and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to connect some dots on this one. So by

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<v Speaker 2>the end of this you'll either think I'm a genius

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<v Speaker 2>or a crazy person. But I implore you to stick with me,

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<v Speaker 2>because I have a genuine point to make, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's an important one for people to at least consider.

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<v Speaker 2>You just have to consider it, okay, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>consider it. So Douglas Murray drops an article today in

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Post and he I'm going to read

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<v Speaker 2>through some of it for you because I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to get a feel for it. Basically, he's calling for

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<v Speaker 2>standards when it comes to the podcasting world. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think we all know what he's hinting at. With standards.

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<v Speaker 2>Who will set those standards, who will enforce those standards?

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<v Speaker 2>How are we to do so? What will be what

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<v Speaker 2>will be the punishment? Well, sounds like a hop, skip

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<v Speaker 2>and a jump to censorship now done. It ironic given

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<v Speaker 2>that Douglas Murray rose to major prominence railing against the woke,

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<v Speaker 2>censorious nonsense under the Biden administration, and now he seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be taking much of the same tactics and repackaging

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<v Speaker 2>in them for his own cause. But I want to

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<v Speaker 2>point something out about Douglas Murray that I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>most people are aware of. Douglas Murray, who came out

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<v Speaker 2>of Oxford. Not long after graduating, he writes his very

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<v Speaker 2>first widely read book, which was Neo Conservatism, Why We

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<v Speaker 2>Need It. This is two thousand and six, so he's

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<v Speaker 2>a approximately twenty five year old man at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's odd that a twenty five year old would

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<v Speaker 2>have such a keen grasp on geopolitics and politics in

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<v Speaker 2>general and be able to elucidate to his audience why

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<v Speaker 2>we ought to be fighting these endless wars. He then

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<v Speaker 2>proceeded to make his career by traveling to war zones

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<v Speaker 2>and telling CNN or MSNBC or Fox News what they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to hear, which was that the Empire is doing

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<v Speaker 2>great and this war is necessary, and that if we

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<v Speaker 2>only keep funding and arming and fighting in these wars,

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<v Speaker 2>then victory is just around the bend. And he did

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<v Speaker 2>over and over again, despite the fact that his track

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<v Speaker 2>record has been demonstrably proven to be horrifically wrong over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again. Douglas Murray and his ILK of IDW guys,

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<v Speaker 2>the intellectual Dark Web guys, guys of Sam Harris, Constantin Kissen,

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<v Speaker 2>who's kind of this modern version of it Dave Ruben.

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<v Speaker 2>Very interesting the similarities that they're all pushing the same narrative,

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<v Speaker 2>All of these guys that rose to prominence being these

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<v Speaker 2>intellectuals that pushed back against censorious nonsense, that were courageous

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<v Speaker 2>enough to tell the truth when no one was willing

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<v Speaker 2>or no one was permitted to do so on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>They now are circling the wagons to try and deplatform

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<v Speaker 2>in particular my guy Dave Smith. Not just Dave, it's

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<v Speaker 2>also Daryl Cooper. And it seems as if they are

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<v Speaker 2>angling to damage Joe Rogan, or at minimum damage Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Rogan's relationship with heterodox thinkers like Daryl Cooper Dave Smith. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 2>if Scott Horten were ever get an invite, if I

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<v Speaker 2>were to ever get an invite, they don't want they

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<v Speaker 2>don't want people like us going on those platforms. So

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<v Speaker 2>why why are they talking about that right now? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get to that, and that's the important part.

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<v Speaker 2>But before I do, I want to read you a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of his article, because I think it's important

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<v Speaker 2>that you understand his argument. I could read you from

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<v Speaker 2>Constantin Kissen, who released his article just yesterday, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same fucking article, So I'm not gonna read

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<v Speaker 2>you his. That's okay, right, I think you'll permit permit

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<v Speaker 2>that omission. You can read it on your own if

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<v Speaker 2>you're really interested. I saw this article had just dropped

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<v Speaker 2>while I was at the gym. I read it. I

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<v Speaker 2>was so enraged I had to come and record an

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<v Speaker 2>episode right away, so I'm doing so. Here's what he

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<v Speaker 2>has to say, Douglas Murray released late last night. He

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<v Speaker 2>says so called Israel Hamas Ukraine war expert spew false

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<v Speaker 2>info on Joe Rogan's podcast. There has to be a standard.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try not to read it in his voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week, I seem to break the internet. I went

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<v Speaker 2>back on the Rogan podcasts to talk about my new

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<v Speaker 2>book on Democracies and death Cults Israel and the Future

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<v Speaker 2>of Civilization, which is available at all good bookstores and

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<v Speaker 2>on Audible. Since you ask, I've been on Joe's podcast

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<v Speaker 2>a number of times before and have always enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe is a master of his art. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people think they can talk casually, interesting but interestingly for hours.

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<v Speaker 2>That's mainly because Joe makes it look so easy. But

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<v Speaker 2>this time I went on with a question, so he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to clarify I'm not talking a shit about Rogan here,

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<v Speaker 2>but he kind of is, because he's going to now

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<v Speaker 2>criticize some of the regulars that Rogan's had on over

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<v Speaker 2>the past year. Having not spoken to Joe since the

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<v Speaker 2>wars in Ukraine, and Israel started. I had become increasingly

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<v Speaker 2>irked that the guests he had that he has had

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<v Speaker 2>on have been almost entirely anti Ukraine and anti Israel

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<v Speaker 2>quick interjection, totally false. He's had on multiple guests that

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<v Speaker 2>are pro Israel and pro war in Ukraine. Brogan even

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<v Speaker 2>pointed that out during the conversation, so certainly not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of the latter, in particular, are not just been

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<v Speaker 2>addictively and maliciously anti Israel, but have been spewing claims

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<v Speaker 2>that are demonstrably false. Many are also people who are

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<v Speaker 2>simply in no way expert at what they are talking

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<v Speaker 2>about attacks on Israel. One of these is a comedian

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<v Speaker 2>who goes by the name of Dave Smith, claiming some

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish ancestry, he has spent the eighteen months since October seven,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three being very unfunny. Indeed, specifically, he has

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<v Speaker 2>decided to spend his time going around the podcast world

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<v Speaker 2>sounding off about Israel. How dare he? In the process,

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<v Speaker 2>he largely cites people like him, people who have many

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<v Speaker 2>views but no obvious expertise, people like Daryl Cooper, who

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<v Speaker 2>says he isn't a historian, yet has been invited onto

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<v Speaker 2>some of the world's biggest podcasts. As quote a historian,

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<v Speaker 2>one of Cooper's many ahistorical claims is that Winston Churchill

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<v Speaker 2>was the chief villain of World War II. On these

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<v Speaker 2>and many other occasions, Cooper has simply lied about history.

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<v Speaker 2>When invited to debate the world's foremost living expert on

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<v Speaker 2>Churchill last year, he declined, saying that he didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>enough to go against such a figure. Yet still Cooper

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<v Speaker 2>gets an on show after show to throw out falsehoods

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<v Speaker 2>that he can't even back up. Sometimes you read it anything,

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<v Speaker 2>but he can't even back them up, and on which

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<v Speaker 2>his online interviewers seem happy not to challenge him. Another

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<v Speaker 2>such figure from the world of comedy who was changing

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<v Speaker 2>his shape to fit the time as Rogan guest, Ian Carroll,

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<v Speaker 2>is what are you even talking about? Ian Carroll's not

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<v Speaker 2>a stand up comic. I don't think he's ever tried comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he hasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>What all right? This is someone who, when he last

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<v Speaker 2>went on Rogan's podcast, very carefully tried to minimize the

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<v Speaker 2>evil of Adolph Hitler. No, I don't think he did

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<v Speaker 2>that outrageously and completely falsely. Carol claimed that in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirties Hitler had kept his anti Semitism down, a

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<v Speaker 2>provably false claim that Rogan did nothing to counter. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not true, and there are historians that have documented

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<v Speaker 2>this quite correctly that in fact, in the lead up

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<v Speaker 2>to World War Two, it was not very popular to

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<v Speaker 2>make his full opinions known, and he did downplay them

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<v Speaker 2>for political reasons. Not to say that he was not

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<v Speaker 2>in fact a very fierce anti Semite, but rather he

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<v Speaker 2>was just trying to get into political power, and therefore

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<v Speaker 2>he downplayed some of his more heinous instincts. All these

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<v Speaker 2>men have also been paling around online with Holocaust and

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<v Speaker 2>ires and proud any Simites like Jake Shields. My bout

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<v Speaker 2>on it. It's funny, I'm friends with all of these people. Oops,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, my bout on Rogan. Two weeks ago, Rogan

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<v Speaker 2>had his mate Dave Smith on yet again for a

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<v Speaker 2>long podcast but for my return to the show that

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<v Speaker 2>I could come on only if Dave Smith was once

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<v Speaker 2>again in the studio, as if Joe didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be unaccompanied, or that Joe thought it was I, of

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<v Speaker 2>all his guests who must be challenged I just got

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<v Speaker 2>to take a pause there. Uh yeah, I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what happened. Actually, I think that Douglas Murray hit up.

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<v Speaker 2>Rogan said I got this new book and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to shill it. And Rogan, having had on a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of guests that have gone against the pro war narrative,

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<v Speaker 2>have convinced Joe that, in fact, people like Douglas Murray

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<v Speaker 2>are the propagandists, quite to the contrary to what Douglas

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<v Speaker 2>Murray is attempting to claim here, And I'll get into

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<v Speaker 2>his history and explain why I think not only is

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<v Speaker 2>that true, but also that Rogan and Dave and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else is right that they should not be listening to

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<v Speaker 2>a absolute imbecile like Douglas Murray. But I digress. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>get there. I like a debate as much as the

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<v Speaker 2>next Scotsman. But what resulted was more than a debate.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to have led to some kind of podcast

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<v Speaker 2>world meltdown. The first reason was that from the outset,

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<v Speaker 2>I challenged Joe on his choice of guests and why

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<v Speaker 2>he had been giving a platform to only one side

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<v Speaker 2>of a debate, and a very conspiratorial one at that

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<v Speaker 2>well false premise he wasn't doing that. Continuing, he and

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<v Speaker 2>Smith were immediately defensive. But the real problem came when

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<v Speaker 2>I raised the issue of expertise. Because, as I said

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<v Speaker 2>then and have said often, we have lived through a

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<v Speaker 2>period when the experts have gotten an awful lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things wrong, from the Covid lafeique to the Hunter Biden laptop.

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<v Speaker 2>We have lived through years after which distrust of experts

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<v Speaker 2>have has become inevitable. Yet that doesn't mean that expertise

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<v Speaker 2>does not exist. I agree. It does not mean that

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<v Speaker 2>a comedian can simply hold himself out as a Middle

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<v Speaker 2>East expert and should be listened to as if he

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<v Speaker 2>has anybody of work. I did not mean that someone

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<v Speaker 2>who says they are not a historian but who practices

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<v Speaker 2>false history should be cited as a historian. This point

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to rile both Smith and Rogan. It appears to

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<v Speaker 2>have riled their audiences even more because many people seem

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<v Speaker 2>to think that what I mean is that they are

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<v Speaker 2>not allowed to have an opinion that is wrong. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they are. It's just that there should be a

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<v Speaker 2>price to pay for spreading bullshit, and part of that

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<v Speaker 2>price is that you should be called out. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>been there. If I had gone Rogan's podcasts and held

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<v Speaker 2>myself out as an expert in MMA fighting, I suspect

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<v Speaker 2>he would have noticed if I had kept making mistake

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<v Speaker 2>after mistake and shown ignorance piled upon ignorance, I think

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<v Speaker 2>he'd say, hey, you don't seem to be very knowledgeable

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<v Speaker 2>about this, and he'd be right. So why is it

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<v Speaker 2>hard to grasp that something similar applies in other areas,

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<v Speaker 2>in bigger rings and more important fights. Having spent most

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<v Speaker 2>of the last eighteen months in Israel, Gaza, Elebanon in Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I know everything, but I think I

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<v Speaker 2>know a darn site more than someone like comic Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>who admitted he'd never even been to the region he

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a country to comment on it? Do you? Said?

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the Internet? Again, The answer is obviously not,

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<v Speaker 2>But if it is your job, or you're making it

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<v Speaker 2>this paper pretending to be an expert on countries I've

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<v Speaker 2>never been to, I would expect my readers to complain,

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<v Speaker 2>as they should if I filed columns about a war

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<v Speaker 2>it would be a fraud. Journalism has had its own

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<v Speaker 2>meltdown in recent years. I got to take a quick

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<v Speaker 2>pause here because this is so unbelievably irritating. Well, guess what, Douglas,

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<v Speaker 2>you were sitting there. Why didn't you do it? Why

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<v Speaker 2>weren't you able to actually poke any real legitimate holes

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<v Speaker 2>in Dave's narrative about this war and how it began.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not as if you weren't sitting right the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>there for three hours, so you failed miserably to counter

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<v Speaker 2>asking for, Because it's not simply that you want someone

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<v Speaker 2>to call bullshit because you were there to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're now doing it again when you're not there,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's not what you're calling for. What you're calling

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<v Speaker 2>for is for people like Dave Smith to no longer

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<v Speaker 2>get that platform. You are calling for deplatforming. It couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be more obvious. I just want to make it clear

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<v Speaker 2>to everybody if they're not picking up on that, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that we don't have standards. Much though that

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<v Speaker 2>might amaze some people. What the standards are in the

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<v Speaker 2>new media, especially on podcasts, is still being worked out,

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<v Speaker 2>but there must be some otherwise the new media will

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Really, could they lead us into a twenty year war

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<v Speaker 2>in Afghanistan? Could the new media do that? Could the

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<v Speaker 2>new media concoct a bullshit story about WMD's in Iraq

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<v Speaker 2>that lead to the death of a million people? The

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<v Speaker 2>new media get us into a war in Ukraine for

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<v Speaker 2>the past two years via proxy and have hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of perish unnecessarily? Could the new media do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Did the old media do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>It was the old media that did that. So you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying that the new media is going to do something

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<v Speaker 2>worse than that. Might I add you were one of

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<v Speaker 2>the figureheads of the old media that led us astray,

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<v Speaker 2>that lied through your fucking teeth for decades, who wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a book titled neo Conservatism, Why We Need It in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and six, at the spry age of approximately

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six years old. You're propagandizing the world and you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting national attention to propagate the idea of neo conservatism,

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<v Speaker 2>which was the ideology of the empire over the past

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years. Be it neo conservatism, neoliberalism, doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same general framework because it led to a

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<v Speaker 2>saw first hand and lied about over and over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again. So when I push back against what he's

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<v Speaker 2>saying here, it's not to say that I think that

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<v Speaker 2>there shouldn't be standards in independent media. I think there should.

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<v Speaker 2>But the number one standard is that the audience decides,

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<v Speaker 2>and the audience ought to. I can't force them, but

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<v Speaker 2>the audience ought to decide based off of track record,

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<v Speaker 2>who is and who is not reputable. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>have been following Dave Smith or Douglas Murray's work for

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<v Speaker 2>the past decade, then you already know the answer. And

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<v Speaker 2>the answer is Dave Smith is far more reputable than

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<v Speaker 2>Douglas Murray or Sam Harris or Constantin Kissen. And Dave

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't run from a fight, and he has debated all

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<v Speaker 2>of these issues at nauseum, and he has dominated those

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<v Speaker 2>debates because he's right, because he's arguing from strength not weakness,

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<v Speaker 2>because he's not a propagandist, because he's actually doing the research,

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<v Speaker 2>and and then testing his own metal against some of

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<v Speaker 2>the most highly acclaimed academics out there, and time and

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<v Speaker 2>time again he trounces them. Not because he's some unbelievably

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<v Speaker 2>gifted debater, not because he plays tricks, not because his

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<v Speaker 2>audience and his fans are dupes, but rather because he

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<v Speaker 2>has the truth on his side, which is, at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, the greatest secret weapon you can

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<v Speaker 2>have in any debate, Are you telling the truth or not?

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you have to defend a falsehood, any reasonably

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<v Speaker 2>gifted debater will defeat you. And that is what Dave

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<v Speaker 2>is doing time and time again, and that is why

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<v Speaker 2>they want Dave Smith deplatformed along with others. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is where it gets interesting though, and I hopefully it

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<v Speaker 2>was already somewhat interesting. But Douglas Murray, as I've already

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<v Speaker 2>laid out his history, his track record is atrocious. There

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<v Speaker 2>isn't a war he hasn't advocated on behalf of, and

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<v Speaker 2>there isn't a war that he told the truth about.

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<v Speaker 2>And there is an a war that's gone as he

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<v Speaker 2>described it to be going. And there is an a

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<v Speaker 2>war that actually turned out to the positive of the

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<v Speaker 2>people there, or us or the world every single thing

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<v Speaker 2>he said about every single war has ultimately been disastrously wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you and Constantine Kissin and Sam Harris and

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Rubin and others want to require there to be standards,

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<v Speaker 2>well then let's start there. Let's judge each other by

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<v Speaker 2>our track records. Put my track record up against y'all's.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to do it too. I don't have nearly

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<v Speaker 2>the audience or nearly the reach, and I haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>doing this nearly as long as Dave Smith has. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been doing it for I don't know, going on fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>years now. I've only been doing it for four. But

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<v Speaker 2>regardless test my track record, I get a lot right.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all get almost everything wrong. Why is that? And by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, everything that you do get right when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to two genders and you know, fighting against woke

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<v Speaker 2>and fighting against censorship, I got that right too, and

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<v Speaker 2>so Dave Smith. So basically, what's happening, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>is that the audiences are taking in the content from

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<v Speaker 2>all of us and they're realizing that we're just better

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<v Speaker 2>than you, that we get it right more often than

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<v Speaker 2>you do. And the reason we get it right is

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<v Speaker 2>because we're not paid propagandists, which I believe you to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do I say that, Well, let's get into the history.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Murray is on the International Advisory Board of the

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<v Speaker 2>NGO Non Governmental Organization Monitor, a Jerusalem based in GEO

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<v Speaker 2>described as pro Israel and right wing, which was founded

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and one by Professor Gerald M. Steinberg.

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<v Speaker 2>So interesting, isn't it timing wise? Because just a few

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<v Speaker 2>days ago this happened. Waiting off is rarely planned.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say waived off. I'm not in a rush

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<v Speaker 3>to do it because I think that Iran has a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to have a great country and to live happily

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<v Speaker 3>without death, and I'd like to see that. That's my

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<v Speaker 3>first option. If there's a second option, I think it

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<v Speaker 3>would be very bad for Iran. And I think Iran

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<v Speaker 3>is wanting to talk. I hope they're wanting to talk.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be very good for them if they do.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'd like to see Iran thrive in the future,

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<v Speaker 3>do fantastically well. I know the Iranian people. They're incredible people,

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<v Speaker 3>always have been, very smart, very energetic, very successful people.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't want to do anything that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>hurt anybody. I really don't. But Iran can't have a

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<v Speaker 3>nuclear weapon. It's pretty simple. It's really simple. We're not

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<v Speaker 3>looking to take their industry, we're not looking to take

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<v Speaker 3>their land, we're not. All we're saying is you can't

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<v Speaker 3>have a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happened earlier this week was that Trump jd Vance,

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<v Speaker 2>Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hegg says Scretary of Defense, and whiles

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<v Speaker 2>they all basically advised against the Israelis striking the nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>facilities within Iran, which means that they were very very

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<v Speaker 2>close to doing so. Now, this is important thing to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I've read, I don't know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to be one hundred percent factual. New York Times reported

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<v Speaker 2>on it, you know, take it with a grain of salt.

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<v Speaker 2>But assuming that's true, what it tells you is that

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<v Speaker 2>there are elements within the Trump camp that do not

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<v Speaker 2>want a full war with Iran, and there are other elements,

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<v Speaker 2>Marco Rubio being the top one that wants to strike

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<v Speaker 2>Iran as fast as possible. And I just think that

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<v Speaker 2>this timing is extraordinarily interesting. Just imagine for a second

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<v Speaker 2>that you're a government official, You're in charge of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Mockingbird Project for the CIA, and you're realizing that

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<v Speaker 2>the narrative is getting out of hand. All of the

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<v Speaker 2>wars that you try and propagandize the American people into supporting,

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<v Speaker 2>Suddenly they're not buying it. The reason that they're not

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<v Speaker 2>buying it is because they're not getting their news from

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<v Speaker 2>you anymore. They're not getting their news from the people

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<v Speaker 2>that you've been feeding a script to for the past

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years. We're not tuning in to Cronkite or Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Rather or anybody anymore, none of them. We're turning into

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<v Speaker 2>independent news sources. So you got the Rogan's, the Tim Poole's.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you tune into Dave Smith now and then if

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to get public support for a strike against

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<v Speaker 2>the Iranians, wouldn't it be good if you had some

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<v Speaker 2>other trusted, independent voices that you could turn to and

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<v Speaker 2>you could say, hey, we want you to put a

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<v Speaker 2>fissure in between Dave Smith and Joe Rogan. Wouldn't that

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<v Speaker 2>be nice? What if they were all former IDW guys

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<v Speaker 2>that argued in favor of free speech and open dialogue

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<v Speaker 2>and against censorship. Wouldn't it be great if they had

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<v Speaker 2>that type of track record where they're supported by some

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<v Speaker 2>portion of Rogan's audience, wouldn't it'd be great if they

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<v Speaker 2>could be the ones that come out against him platforming

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<v Speaker 2>people that are counter to our interests when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to propagandizing people and priming them for war. Look, I

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<v Speaker 2>know I'm connecting dots here, and i know I'm making

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<v Speaker 2>a claim that sounds a little outlandish, But when you

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<v Speaker 2>consider the fact that at some point in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>it was reported by former CIA agents that they had

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<v Speaker 2>more than half of all nightly news programs were directly

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<v Speaker 2>under their control. By some estimates it was upwards of

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<v Speaker 2>eighty percent of the commentators were directly under their thumb.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you think, given that Joe Rogan gets fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>million viewers on average and all these other shows do

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of thousands, and nightly news shows are lucky to

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<v Speaker 2>compete with them, if they do it all, if they've

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<v Speaker 2>already done it in the past, why wouldn't they do

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<v Speaker 2>it now? Right? I don't think I'm I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm reaching here. I'm literally extrapolating or not very distant history,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm applying it to the present. I'm arguing to

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<v Speaker 2>you that it would be foolhardy to believe that they

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be doing this, that they wouldn't be applying leverage

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<v Speaker 2>to these platforms to try and curtail their messaging. Timpoole

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<v Speaker 2>got in the line of fire just last week because

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<v Speaker 2>he met in semi private with Benjamin at Yahoo, Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister of Israel. Interesting timing on that one, too, given

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<v Speaker 2>that these strikes were supposed to be happening this week. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that Tempoole accepted any money. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that, and I doubt it personally. But the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you have all these idw guys coming out, all

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<v Speaker 2>in tandem, all basically verbatim, all in sync, all on

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<v Speaker 2>the same messaging beat, all destroying their reputation in order

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<v Speaker 2>to try and tarnish a guy like Dave Smith, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't find that interesting. You don't find that timing super interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>That they nearly got this war that they've wanted forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me show you how long they've wanted it.

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<v Speaker 3>There any other nations that you would recommend that the

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<v Speaker 3>United States launch preemptive attack upon at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>The answer is categorically as the two nations that are vying,

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<v Speaker 4>competing with each other. Who will be the first to

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<v Speaker 4>achieve nuclear weapons? Is Iraq and Iran. A third nation,

422
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<v Speaker 4>by the way, is Libya as well, while no one

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<v Speaker 4>is watching, under the cloak, is trying very rapidly to

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<v Speaker 4>build an atomic bomb capability. The question that you ask,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it is vital, it's important, and that is

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<v Speaker 4>what do you do about it? You have to dismantle

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<v Speaker 4>the network, and the question is do you dismantle all

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<v Speaker 4>of it at once?

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 4>The first thing you did after the wake up call

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<v Speaker 4>and September eleventh was that you took on the first regime,

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<v Speaker 4>the obvious regime. You remove the Taliban regime and you

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<v Speaker 4>scatter it. Okay, although it has not been completely destroyed it.

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<v Speaker 4>Now the question is what's your next step? Knowing that

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<v Speaker 4>three of these nations are developing nuclear weapons. This is

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<v Speaker 4>not a hypothesis, it is fact. Iraq, Iran, and Libya

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<v Speaker 4>are racing to develop nuclear weapons. So now what is

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<v Speaker 4>the next I believe that the next step is to choose.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not a question of whether you have to take action,

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<v Speaker 4>but what kind of action and against? If I had

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<v Speaker 4>to choose, should there be military action first against Iraq

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<v Speaker 4>or first against Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>I would choose to go after Iraq. So that's Benjamin

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<v Speaker 2>net Yahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, talking to our

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<v Speaker 2>Congress over twenty years ago, laying out the game plan.

446
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<v Speaker 2>Some of those faces that you saw in there, they're

447
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<v Speaker 2>no longer with us. Gaddafi and Libya gone, Saddam Hussein

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<v Speaker 2>in Iraq gone, Iran still standing. So we have these

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<v Speaker 2>reports that come out the same week that there's this

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<v Speaker 2>attempt from these former IDW guys to try and sever

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship between Dave Smith and Joe Rogan. The very

452
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<v Speaker 2>same week they were this close to getting the bombing

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<v Speaker 2>campaign geared up against the nuclear facilities in Iran, which

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<v Speaker 2>Iran has said repeatedly. I can't say that they'll actually

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<v Speaker 2>follow through, but they've said repeatedly that if you do that,

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<v Speaker 2>they will fight back, they will defend themselves. And we've

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of troops in that region, which means

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<v Speaker 2>we likely lose soldiers in response, we lose Americans, which

459
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<v Speaker 2>means cassaspelli, which means full war. I don't think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>taking huge logical leaps here right now. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>other key thing to understand the Israelis, from everything I've read,

462
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<v Speaker 2>don't have the capacity to take out the nuclear facilities

463
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<v Speaker 2>that the Iradians have, because after they've already taken out

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<v Speaker 2>their facilities so many times of the past fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 2>they have buried them very, very far below the ground. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 2>the only munitions that are capable of actually reaching them,

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<v Speaker 2>assuming you don't actually just go in there on foot,

468
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<v Speaker 2>would have to be you know, basically bunker busters, which

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<v Speaker 2>the Israelis don't possess, not the ones necessary to get

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<v Speaker 2>deep enough to actually take out these facilities. So what

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<v Speaker 2>Netanyahu was in town to do was not just to

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<v Speaker 2>meet with Tim Poole and other independent media folks, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was there to talk to Trump in person, to

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<v Speaker 2>try and get him to take on their war to

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<v Speaker 2>strike those facilities which have led to a war between

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<v Speaker 2>the United States of America and Iran and who knows

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<v Speaker 2>who else. So, yeah, I don't think any of this

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<v Speaker 2>is coincidence. And I think that they they sense that

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<v Speaker 2>they've lost their grasp on the narrative. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds ridiculous that they'd be concerned about some stand

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<v Speaker 2>up comic, some member of the Legion of Skanks like Clint,

482
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<v Speaker 2>you honestly believe that they're going after Dave Smith. You

483
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<v Speaker 2>honestly think that they're trying to to undermine Dave Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to be very clear with you, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>There has been no more successful other than maybe maybe Finkelstein,

486
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<v Speaker 2>there has been no more successful commentator debater on this

487
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<v Speaker 2>issue over the past eighteen months than Dave Smith. If

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<v Speaker 2>you think he's not on their radar, you're out of

489
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<v Speaker 2>your fucking mind. He is absolutely on their radar. I

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<v Speaker 2>struggle to believe that Douglas Murray, James Lindsay, Sam Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>Constantin Kissen, all of these guys. By the way, constant

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<v Speaker 2>Kissen was just on two weeks ago. He was just

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<v Speaker 2>on Joe Rogan two weeks ago. Douglas Murray was just

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<v Speaker 2>on last week. I struggle to imagine that these men

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<v Speaker 2>would risk their relationship with Joe Rogan, the largest platform

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, for no good reason. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's a very good reason, and I think that they've

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<v Speaker 2>been employed to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't prove that, but I want you to pay

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<v Speaker 2>attention to what they're doing and what they're saying in

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<v Speaker 2>the synchronicity with which they are doing what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and judge for yourself. As I said, I'm connecting dots.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it definitively, but I am saying Dave

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<v Speaker 2>Smith is absolutely on the regime's radar. They want their

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<v Speaker 2>war and Dave Smith, Rogan and independent commentator space like

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<v Speaker 2>the actual independent commentator space that has very significant audiences

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<v Speaker 2>these days, is a problem to them. And they if

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<v Speaker 2>they can't buy you, they'll threaten you. If they can't

510
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<v Speaker 2>cancel you, they'll deplatform you. They're gonna do anything they

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<v Speaker 2>can because they don't have any other choice. They already

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<v Speaker 2>tried the censorship regime in the twenty twenty twenty twenty

513
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<v Speaker 2>one timeline didn't work out so well, so they got

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<v Speaker 2>to try something else. And who better than a guy

515
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<v Speaker 2>who sits on the board of a Tel Aviv based

516
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<v Speaker 2>Inngo to push this operation. British guy sounds very authoritative.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gotten every single war wrong over the past twenty years,

518
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<v Speaker 2>but people still give him the time of day. They

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<v Speaker 2>still listen to him as if he's some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>reputable figure that you ought to take seriously. But don't

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<v Speaker 2>listen to Dave Smith, who's been right about everything for

522
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<v Speaker 2>a decade. Dismiss him. He's a stand up comic. Why

523
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<v Speaker 2>should you be listening to Dave Smith? He's a comic.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to this guy who's been fucking wrong about everything

525
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<v Speaker 2>for twenty years. Wouldn't that be preferable if you enjoyed

526
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<v Speaker 2>this episode, But you still need a nicotine fix because

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<v Speaker 2>you can't put down the vapor. The cigarettes got an

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<v Speaker 2>get yourself ten percent off. I love these things. As

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<v Speaker 2>you can tell, I am cutting way back. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>a consequence of having some other item that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>still satisfying that very very heterosexual oral fixation issue that

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<v Speaker 2>I have. Anyways, zipp ixtoothpicks dot com promo Clint ten

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<v Speaker 2>code Clint ten. Get you some Get the fuck out

539
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<v Speaker 2>of here. I mean it is so it's gaslighting. It's

540
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<v Speaker 2>so irritated and I and I honestly believe that I'm

541
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<v Speaker 2>I'm right on this. I think that they are running

542
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<v Speaker 2>a goddamn op and I know it sounds crazy, but

543
00:29:57.200 --> 00:29:59.319
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm right. Let me know what you think

544
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<v Speaker 2>in the comments, like subscribe, share it around being bing bong.

545
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<v Speaker 2>Quick note before I get out of here, Trump put

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<v Speaker 2>COVID origin on White House doc Gov and basically he's

547
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<v Speaker 2>pointing the finger at Fauci everything that we've talked about

548
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<v Speaker 2>in the past. So I'm not going to recap it all.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're all on the same page. Anyways. It's

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<v Speaker 2>nice to get confirmation of what you and I already

551
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<v Speaker 2>knew four years ago. I guess it's nice to know.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the reality. Fauci's still walking free. There's nobody

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<v Speaker 2>that's facing trial. There's nobody that's even under investigation as

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<v Speaker 2>far as I know. So until that changes, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>give a shit what you put on your website. We

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<v Speaker 2>need justice and if you're not capable of delivering that,

557
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<v Speaker 2>then this is just lip service. It's just basically trying

558
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<v Speaker 2>to assuade our concerns while delivering nothing. We need actual investigations,

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<v Speaker 2>actual prosecutions, lest these people do it to us again.

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<v Speaker 2>They locked down the world, millions of people died, and

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<v Speaker 2>they transferred the most wealth and human history during that

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four month period. If they get away with that,

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<v Speaker 2>well then you can just write off our future because

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<v Speaker 2>if there's not justice to be found for something like that,

565
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<v Speaker 2>well then there's no justice in this world. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>the truth. And I hope, I hope that Pambondi, Battel, Bongino,

567
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<v Speaker 2>Trump himself are the real deal and that they will

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<v Speaker 2>eventually go after not just those people, but also the

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein folks. And if you don't, well then you're in

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<v Speaker 2>on it, and that's too bad. I hope you're not

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<v Speaker 2>fingers crossed. Like I said, like buddon comment, subscribe, share

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<v Speaker 2>it around. Thank you guys so much. We just did

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<v Speaker 2>back to back thirty k viewership on YouTube for my

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<v Speaker 2>two most recent episodes. I have never done that with

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<v Speaker 2>a solo show. I've had some shows that did fifty

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<v Speaker 2>to one hundred thousand views with guests, but just me

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<v Speaker 2>shooting the shit with you guys to get that many

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<v Speaker 2>views is bonkers. Couldn't have done it without you. Couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have done it without you, guys, sharing the show and

580
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<v Speaker 2>telling people about it and picking up your nieces and

581
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<v Speaker 2>nephews and sons and daughters and grandmas and grandpas and

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<v Speaker 2>mothers and wives. And you picked up their phone and

583
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<v Speaker 2>you didn't tell them shit. And you just went to

584
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<v Speaker 2>Liberty Lockdown on your favorite podcastcher and you click subscribe

585
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and you didn't say anything. You handed it back to them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only reason this is happening because of you, degenerates,

587
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<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't be more appreciative. I'll see you guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna believe this. But just as I was

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<v Speaker 2>about to publish who Else sits down? A bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>these guys I keep talking about. So I've been talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Constantin Kissing and Douglas Murray. They're the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>released these articles over the past forty eight hours. Who

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<v Speaker 2>else was I talking about? Well, Dave Rubin just had

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<v Speaker 2>on James Lindsay to talk about what you're allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about on the internet. What are the odds all

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<v Speaker 2>of the idw doing the exact same thing at the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same time. Let's listen to a little bit of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Podcast is stan is a place where people scold the

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<v Speaker 5>mainstream media for failing to live up to their standards

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<v Speaker 5>while having none of their own.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been thinking a.

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<v Speaker 5>Lot about this because people are putting aside even the

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<v Speaker 5>specifics of the debate, and you guys are welcome to

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<v Speaker 5>talk about whatever you want. Obviously, as we watch mainstream

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<v Speaker 5>collapse and the gatekeeping that you were talking about earlier,

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<v Speaker 5>James and most people watching this, I think agree that

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<v Speaker 5>gatekeeping has been terrible, especially COVID. I think blew apart

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<v Speaker 5>so many doors for people that now they're questioning everything.

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<v Speaker 5>And you've got people thinking that Winston Churchill was the

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<v Speaker 5>bad guy in World War Two and somehow Hitler was good.

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<v Speaker 5>And just like the litany of things that we've opened,

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<v Speaker 5>we've upended, we are finding ourselves in a weird place

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<v Speaker 5>where everyone's just gone off to their corner to find truth.

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<v Speaker 5>Is this like, in some sense the most dangerous thing

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<v Speaker 5>that a modern society can be in where we're just

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<v Speaker 5>going to all define truth for ourselves. And in some

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<v Speaker 5>ways we have to blame the gatekep, the previous gatekeepers,

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<v Speaker 5>because they did not do a good enough job gatekeeping.

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<v Speaker 2>For James, Lindsay says some stupid shit. I got to

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<v Speaker 2>interject there now, the most dangerous thing you can have,

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<v Speaker 2>The most dangerous civilization that you can live in, is

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<v Speaker 2>not one in which we all have our own truth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one in which we all believe the same lie. Hello,

624
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<v Speaker 2>isn't that obvious If you all believe the same lie,

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<v Speaker 2>If you can propagandize an entire population into a lie,

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<v Speaker 2>it can destroy you. Not just destroy you, but it

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<v Speaker 2>could destroy the world. There's so many examples historically of this,

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<v Speaker 2>where I mean Japan World War two. There's aspects of

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<v Speaker 2>that within twenty twenty across the entire world, where the

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<v Speaker 2>entire world believed a lie and we almost destroyed ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>over it. So there are lots of paradigms in which

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<v Speaker 2>civilization is jeopardized, not because we all get to talk

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<v Speaker 2>freely and some of us might believe wrong things, and

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<v Speaker 2>not because the gatekeepers got it wrong, but rather there

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<v Speaker 2>was censorship, and the gatekeeping was there to prevent us

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<v Speaker 2>from discussing things and to prevent us from getting to

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<v Speaker 2>the truth, which you guys are now trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>because the open dialogue has led us to a conclusion

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<v Speaker 2>that isn't in alignment with your funders. Yeah, I'll say it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what I think is happening is that your

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<v Speaker 2>funding source is telling you, hey, open dialogue was all

642
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<v Speaker 2>good right up until they started to say, hey, what

643
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<v Speaker 2>about this relationship with that other nation in the Middle East?

644
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<v Speaker 2>And all these wars that we fought, and they've all

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<v Speaker 2>been disastrous and they've basically bankrupted us. They put US

646
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<v Speaker 2>ten plus trillion in debt. Maybe we shouldn't be doing

647
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<v Speaker 2>that anymore. And then all of a sudden, all of

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<v Speaker 2>these guys that are interested in open dialogue and free

649
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<v Speaker 2>speech and debate, no gatekeepers, no censorship, All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>all of them have a problem all about the same issue,

651
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<v Speaker 2>and there's one unique thing that ties them all together.

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<v Speaker 6>Ride or Die for Israel. WHOA wow, fascinating. What you're

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<v Speaker 6>witnessing is postmodernism. What he's actually putting his finger on

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<v Speaker 6>is called the postmodern condition. So now we have of

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<v Speaker 6>I guess the alt media, which largely codes right podcast

656
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<v Speaker 6>to stan is a great name for it, because if

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<v Speaker 6>you don't pay your right dues to it, then.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll kick you out that it has gone postmodern.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the postmodern condition, and everything that went along

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<v Speaker 6>with postmodernism on the left that sucked is going to

661
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<v Speaker 6>come here. That also sucked. There's a day out there

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<v Speaker 6>who have gate kept the institutions so that their knowledges

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<v Speaker 6>are considered valid and nobody else's outside knowledges are considered valid. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 6>outsider knowledge that challenges the existing establishment is considered more valid.

665
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<v Speaker 6>And so that's actually also what he's touching on. So

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<v Speaker 6>this is why these people qualify under a brand name

667
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<v Speaker 6>like Woke Right, because most of them identify on the right.

668
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<v Speaker 6>They push so called right wing values, and they've adopted

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<v Speaker 6>a left wing of pistemology.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not that I'm not interested in expertise. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>that first hand accounts don't have value. It's not that

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<v Speaker 2>going to the location of the place that you're talking

673
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<v Speaker 2>about might add additional context that is valuable to your listeners,

674
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<v Speaker 2>your readers, whatever. It's not that I'm arguing that it's

675
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<v Speaker 2>I'm certainly not arguing that everybody who has a heterodox

676
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<v Speaker 2>view is correct at be absurd. I'm arguing that the

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<v Speaker 2>experts have failed us, and you guys stood shoulder to

678
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<v Speaker 2>shoulder with us as we pointed out the same thing.

679
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<v Speaker 2>You were that the experts were wrong about XYZ in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty twenty one, even long prior to that. But

681
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<v Speaker 2>now we're saying that we still believe the experts are

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<v Speaker 2>wrong about this issue, this issue in particular. You won't

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<v Speaker 2>engage with us on a debate on the merits of

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<v Speaker 2>our own arguments or our own due diligence on these

685
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<v Speaker 2>issues because you can't, because we have a really good

686
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<v Speaker 2>case that none of you can take on, so much

687
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<v Speaker 2>so that Douglas Murray sat mere feet away from Dave

688
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<v Speaker 2>Smith for three hours and couldn't contend with our argument

689
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<v Speaker 2>because it's a solid one. So that's the reality. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not arguing that every heterodox view is correct. I'm arguing

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<v Speaker 2>that the experts in these particular arenas have been wrong

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<v Speaker 2>and continue to be And if you're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about getting narratives wrong, then why the fuck aren't you

694
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<v Speaker 2>looking at Douglas Murray's track record of being wrong about

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<v Speaker 2>every foreign intervention for two decades. Well, the answer is

696
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<v Speaker 2>that you don't disagree with him on that because you

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<v Speaker 2>guys are pro war, because you are pro empire, and

698
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<v Speaker 2>whether you be neo conservative, neoliberal, or just bought and

699
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<v Speaker 2>paid for shills doesn't really change the outcome you are

700
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<v Speaker 2>coming to the wrong conclusions because you're wrong, not because

701
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<v Speaker 2>we are, not because we're seeking out miss and disinformation

702
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<v Speaker 2>from stand up comics, but because that stand up comic

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<v Speaker 2>has done more research and more due diligence and tested

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<v Speaker 2>his ideas in the open marketplace of ideas, and he

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<v Speaker 2>has prevailed time and time again. And that is why

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<v Speaker 2>all of you are unifying to try and unseat him.

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<v Speaker 2>But unseat him you shall not, for the king shall reign.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is utter garbage, obviously, But I did have

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<v Speaker 2>an interaction with James Lindsay today that is very it

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<v Speaker 2>just it's a great example of what I'm describing here.

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<v Speaker 2>We make solid arguments, they don't contend with them. They

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<v Speaker 2>laugh us off, despite the fact that we are winning

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<v Speaker 2>the debate. We're winning the debate not because our audience

714
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<v Speaker 2>is stupid, but because our audience is actually listening. Check

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<v Speaker 2>it out. So my buddy Liam McCollum posts a meme.

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<v Speaker 2>It says Dave Smith, America first, Douglas Murray, the War Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Very accurate. James Lindsay quotes it says libertarians, every war

718
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<v Speaker 2>is just unless it's fought by America and its allies.

719
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<v Speaker 2>It's a critical theory of the great power, just like

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<v Speaker 2>Lenin and Stalin taught the Soviets. It's not America first,

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<v Speaker 2>it's America last and moral authority because of its power.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not libertarian either. So all of that's wrong. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>show you what I responded with, but just to start

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<v Speaker 2>off with, every war is just unless it's fought by

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<v Speaker 2>America and its allies. There are very few wars that

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<v Speaker 2>libertarians find to be just at all. Were probably the

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<v Speaker 2>least pro war you'll find. And I responded opening statements

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<v Speaker 2>straw Man conclusion, peer confirmation, biased deeply Inhale's own fart, continues, continues,

729
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<v Speaker 2>evading all of our actual arguments. I see why you

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<v Speaker 2>love Douglas Murray. He responds to me, give me your

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<v Speaker 2>theory of just war, if and when you're ready, and

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<v Speaker 2>compare your theory against the Hamas Charter and its consistent

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<v Speaker 2>behavior since the nineteen eighties when it was written. For

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<v Speaker 2>all the talk about quote your arguments, put up or

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<v Speaker 2>shut up? So I put up, and guess what James lindsay.

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<v Speaker 2>Shut up. Here's what I said. This is a description

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<v Speaker 2>of just war theory. So I'm going to go through

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<v Speaker 2>each aspect of it. Bear with me, It'll take maybe

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<v Speaker 2>sixty seconds. Hamas attacks, Israel has a right to respond

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<v Speaker 2>check mark, so that falls under the just war justin bello,

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<v Speaker 2>the nature of the response is massively excessive, wiping out

742
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<v Speaker 2>tens of thousands of innocence. That does not qualify just postbellum,

743
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<v Speaker 2>which is after the war. There is no real plan

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<v Speaker 2>for peace, and there hasn't been a serious effort to

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<v Speaker 2>establish an autonomous Palestinian state in decades. Israel has a

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<v Speaker 2>right to respond, they do not have a right to

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<v Speaker 2>mass slaughter innocence, just as Hamas has no right to

748
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<v Speaker 2>do so, despite the decades of blockades and abuse the

749
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<v Speaker 2>Palestinians have suffered last resort. This is another criteria for

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<v Speaker 2>just war theory. All reasonable, peaceful alternatives must have been exhausted.

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<v Speaker 2>They were not. In fact, Hamas was propped up by

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<v Speaker 2>NETANYAHUO because they didn't want a two state solution, diminishing

753
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<v Speaker 2>Fatah gave them the quote no partner for peace argument,

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<v Speaker 2>So that doesn't check off either probability of success. There

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<v Speaker 2>is no chance that they wipe out Hamas the state

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<v Speaker 2>of goal without wiping out or ethnically cleansing two million

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<v Speaker 2>innocent non combatants. That doesn't check discrimination. The IDEF has

758
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<v Speaker 2>failed miserably and avoiding harm to non combatants, as has Hamas.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't check proportionality. The force used must be proportionate

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<v Speaker 2>to the military objective of avoiding excessive destruction. If you've

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<v Speaker 2>looked at Gaza at all or thereabouts, it has definitely

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<v Speaker 2>been excessive. So proportionality doesn't match. With all that being said,

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the key part, and this is what

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<v Speaker 2>really frustrates me about the framing that they continue to

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<v Speaker 2>apply to the libertarian argument, be it Dave Smith or

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<v Speaker 2>Scott or myself or anybody else. Is that I said,

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<v Speaker 2>with all that being said, I am only interested in

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<v Speaker 2>ending America's involvement. Funding and arming the Israelis while providing

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<v Speaker 2>aid to the Palestinians is insanity. You want the war

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<v Speaker 2>to continue and for me to shut up, fine, publicly

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<v Speaker 2>endorse the completeisation of American involvement, pull our troops from

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<v Speaker 2>the region, and the aid and munition shipments stop bombing Yemen.

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<v Speaker 2>Until then, I will continue to speak out. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>argued that Hamas is fighting in a moral way, nor

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<v Speaker 2>have I defended their actions. You are attempting to force

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<v Speaker 2>a false binary, when the third option is all most

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<v Speaker 2>libertarians want, namely to not be involved, to not be

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<v Speaker 2>robbed to fund the mass slaughter of kids. The fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you struggle so mightily to understand and this simple

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<v Speaker 2>premise tells me you are either not trying very hard

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<v Speaker 2>or you're being paid to take this position. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care which it is. When I say America first, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it, and I do I mean it and they

784
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<v Speaker 2>don't because they're liars. Now are they paid to lie?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are they just principle lists hacks and people that

786
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<v Speaker 2>you probably shouldn't listen to anymore. That's up to you

787
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<v Speaker 2>to decide. See, that's the beautiful thing about this. I'm

788
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<v Speaker 2>not interested in seeing these people deplatformed. I have no

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<v Speaker 2>problem with Joe Rogan having them on all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care because I believe that as long as

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<v Speaker 2>we have an open dialogue, as long as we also

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<v Speaker 2>contend with your ideas in this arena, we will prevail.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we're not afraid of having our ideas contended with.

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<v Speaker 2>We relish it. James Lindsay calls me out, says put

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<v Speaker 2>up or shut up. I put up. It's now been

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<v Speaker 2>an entire day, no response likely won't be by the

797
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<v Speaker 2>way I checked his timeline. He is tweeted all day.

798
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<v Speaker 2>So he asked for an argument. I gave him one,

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<v Speaker 2>a very solid one one that whether you agree or disagree,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the conclusion most America First people agree with.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't want to be involved. We don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be funding it, we don't want to be fighting it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're asking for. Until you stop that, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to shut up about it. And the only

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<v Speaker 2>reason that American Libertarians are really talking about this as

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<v Speaker 2>much as we are is not because we're ride or

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<v Speaker 2>die for Hamas anymore than we are right or die

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<v Speaker 2>for Vladimir Putin. It's that we are funding one side

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<v Speaker 2>of these wars. We are funding the Israelis, and we

810
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<v Speaker 2>are funding the Ukrainians. We're also arming them. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>reason we have so much to say about this, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the reason that you don't want us to have

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<v Speaker 2>a voice anymore. And that's the reason that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want us to be on the largest platforms, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>the reason you're all working in tanem to try and

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<v Speaker 2>undermine this movement. And it's not gonna work. I already

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<v Speaker 2>know for a fact can't tell you how. You could

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<v Speaker 2>probably guess that Joe Rogan is privy to what's happening

819
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<v Speaker 2>and he is not taking it kindly. So keep it

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<v Speaker 2>up because we're not gonna stop, and we're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to back down. And you guys can keep ducking and

822
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<v Speaker 2>dodging us and quote tweeting and then running away when

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<v Speaker 2>we make a more compelling argument and we ratio the

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<v Speaker 2>shit out of you time and time again. We can

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<v Speaker 2>debate you live and just trounce you and crush you

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<v Speaker 2>over and over and over again. But you still have

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<v Speaker 2>the access to the corporate media that'll give you some

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<v Speaker 2>some semblance of that authoritative nature that you once held.

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<v Speaker 2>But in this world you all can't hang. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>not our fault, that's yours. Get better, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't get better, well then expect to get dominated. And

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<v Speaker 2>I make no apologies for that, because that's the game

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<v Speaker 2>that we're in. You have heterodox ideas. Test him, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you prevail, good work. And if you lose, Each

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<v Speaker 2>Shit Douglas Murray, James Lindsay, Sam Harris constantin Kiss Him.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a stuff in my episodes with each Shit. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll see you guys, So please quick reminder before we

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<v Speaker 2>get out of here, Mike Lindell and his employees want

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<v Speaker 2>to personally thank you for your continued support of my pillow.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a big allotment of their bed sheets that

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<v Speaker 2>did digged again. The box stores didn't come through, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to pass the savings on to you. Now

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<v Speaker 2>there is no middlemand so you're going to get wholesale

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<v Speaker 2>prices on their famous Giza Dreams and per Kale bed sheets.

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<v Speaker 2>Giza Dream Queen's size normally one thirty nine ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 2>your wholesale price sixty nine ninety nine. It's like basically

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<v Speaker 2>half off. Come on, so go to my pulo dot

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<v Speaker 2>com and use promo code lockdown. Free shipping options are available.

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<v Speaker 2>This allotment won't last long. When they're gone, they're gone,

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<v Speaker 2>so remember go to my pulo dot com and use

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<v Speaker 2>hell like Mike and Dell and the unbelievable Giza sheets.

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<v Speaker 2>Get you some cozy you.

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<v Speaker 7>All those snoops and Nosey Parker is sitting in their

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<v Speaker 7>homeland security funded centers of excellence, telling us day after

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<v Speaker 7>day we must think as they say and vote as

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<v Speaker 7>they say, or else we're traitorous, pudin loving fascists and

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<v Speaker 7>enablers of dangerous disinformation. Motherfucker, I'm an American.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Liberty Lockdown.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna your park, home to liberty and compan Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's on Wold.

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<v Speaker 2>Where did it come from and where did