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Speaker 1: It's seven point thirty hit seven thirty one to fifty
Speaker 1: five KRCD talks day. Well, we have a new day
Speaker 1: in the America, a new down and maybe the end
Speaker 1: of climate religion. Just talking about that with Ken Blackwell Earlier,
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about what Dave Ooyage from
Speaker 1: the Taxpayer Protect Alliance, and we continue Ohio energy poly
Speaker 1: discussion with Donovan and Neil from Americans for Prosperity. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the fifty five Krsey Morning Show, My friend.
Speaker 1: Always good to.
Speaker 3: Have you on.
Speaker 1: Brian glad to be here well, and you got a
Speaker 1: shot of adrenaline too. A reform energy policy in Ohio
Speaker 1: after the Donald Trump announcements pulled us out of the
Speaker 1: Paris Accord all of the above energy strategy, which means
Speaker 1: all of the above, we get rid of the ev
Speaker 1: mandate which is just ridiculous, and probably the end of
Speaker 1: green subsidies because he put a halt to the green
Speaker 1: projects under the Inflation Reduction Act, which it wasn't. This
Speaker 1: is positive, positive steps in the right direction to lower
Speaker 1: our energy bills and create energy independence, is it not?
Speaker 3: It absolutely is. From what President Trump has done in
Speaker 3: the first forty eight hours in the White House to
Speaker 3: what you publican majorities in Congress have indicated are going
Speaker 3: to be top priorities, down to what leadership here in Columbus,
Speaker 3: here in Ohio, and the House and Senate have indicated
Speaker 3: as top priorities when it comes to energy. This is great, Brian,
Speaker 3: because this is what we had heard when we were
Speaker 3: out there on the doors we were doing all these
Speaker 3: gas station price rollback events and other things last year
Speaker 3: talking to folks around the state of Ohio. People are
Speaker 3: feeling the pain in a lot of ways, but energy
Speaker 3: and the rise and cost energy is one of them.
Speaker 3: And we're excited to see so many of our leaders
Speaker 3: taking this up as a top priority early in the
Speaker 3: legislative calendar this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as I observed earlier in our discussions with the
Speaker 1: other folks, you know, this is one profoundly concrete example
Speaker 1: of how we can lower the inflation rate, lower the
Speaker 1: prices of goods and service, because everything we eat and
Speaker 1: consume is of course shipped somewhere by a semi tractor trailer,
Speaker 1: and you have to have energy keep the lights on.
Speaker 1: The electricity bill has been going through the roof because
Speaker 1: of these great, ridiculous green energy subsidies which do nothing
Speaker 1: to increase efficiencies or provide more electricity, just divert precious
Speaker 1: dollar resources to chasing our tail carbon reduction projects. I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's going to lower our energy builds
Speaker 1: its period, end of story. I don't think anybody can
Speaker 1: argue against that from an economic standpoint. You know, more
Speaker 1: supply cheaper, it's going to be cheaper.
Speaker 3: Well, and that's yeah. So we put out a study
Speaker 3: actually yesterday alongside the Buckeye Institute to lay out some
Speaker 3: principles six principles in particular that lawmakers here in the
Speaker 3: state of Ohio. I think these things apply to the
Speaker 3: subtle government as well, but we're targeting the state of
Speaker 3: Ohio with this report that really will get to the
Speaker 3: heart of free market energy solutions. What we want to
Speaker 3: see as an abundance approach to energy policy making, where
Speaker 3: we increase the supply of energy. We're rather than trying
Speaker 3: to find different gimmicks or subsidies or other other goofy
Speaker 3: mechanisms to try to to bring really because they don't work.
Speaker 3: They haven't worked for years. It's time that we embrace
Speaker 3: the free market and an abundance supply for energy policy making.
Speaker 1: Well, are you Americans for Prosperity and the Buckeye Institute
Speaker 1: also pushing and I hope the answer is yes. Nuclear
Speaker 1: plants because that's one thing that would generate the abundance
Speaker 1: of electricity.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's a great form of reliable energy, right, Brian.
Speaker 3: And that's really what we need, is we need energy
Speaker 3: that you can also call up on demand. Right as
Speaker 3: we have these spikes, so you have these cold blasts
Speaker 3: like we just experienced, we may need a little more energy.
Speaker 3: And so absolutely nuclear is part of that picture. Indiana,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw this, but Mike Brawn
Speaker 3: just announced they're putting one of those modular nuclear facilities.
Speaker 3: And I believe out there talking to my colleague in
Speaker 3: the Indiana AFP chapter about that yesterday. It stuff's happening, Brian.
Speaker 3: We need to embrace it.
Speaker 1: Well, we need to embrace it. You know. That's wonderful.
Speaker 1: But why does Indiana get to pave the way? Why
Speaker 1: can't we do it? I mean, can we take a
Speaker 1: queue from this? Can we take a queue from the French?
Speaker 1: I mean the French are they have a ton of
Speaker 1: nuclear plants, so much so that Germany, which cut its
Speaker 1: own throat, the former economic powerhouse of the European Union,
Speaker 1: trying to rely on the sun and the wind to
Speaker 1: generate power. Guess what the sign ain't shine and the
Speaker 1: wind ain't blowing right now. They had to tap into
Speaker 1: France's abundance of energy to keep their lights on in Germany.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, we can't learn the lessons from
Speaker 1: these folks.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that's absolutely part of it. Well, when
Speaker 3: you think about the onshoreing talking internationally now, right, you know,
Speaker 3: if we're going to try to bring these manufacturing jobs
Speaker 3: back to the United States, those don't run on ferry,
Speaker 3: dust and hopes and dreams, right. Those factories take a
Speaker 3: lot of power to operate. Manufacturers need cheap, affordable, reliable
Speaker 3: energy in order to create their facility, to open their
Speaker 3: facilities up and create the jobs that so many Americans
Speaker 3: are hungry for. That only comes with good free market
Speaker 3: energy policy that will embrace abundance in our energy sector
Speaker 3: rather than an over reliance on unreliable sources of energy.
Speaker 1: And if you can demonstrate that you have a underscore
Speaker 1: of the word reliable energy source that produces an electricity
Speaker 1: a less or less money, and you have generally energy
Speaker 1: policies in this country or most notably even just the
Speaker 1: state of Ohio that allow for a cheaper energy bill,
Speaker 1: that is going to be a magnet for global corporations
Speaker 1: to want to come here and settle down. I mean,
Speaker 1: we obviously are far more competitive than the European Union
Speaker 1: when it comes to this stuff. The door's open, the
Speaker 1: water's warm, come on in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's something you know. Senate President Rob McCauley had.
Speaker 3: I've had the opportunity to hear him speak about some
Speaker 3: of the some of his vision for this legislative session,
Speaker 3: and when he talks about energy, that's sort of the
Speaker 3: vision he's casting here, which is, look, we're sitting on
Speaker 3: an abundance of a great natural resource. We are, you
Speaker 3: know that being natural gas. We have a steady, reliable
Speaker 3: uh political or environment here, right, and that we've got
Speaker 3: conservative leadership in the House, the Senate, and the governor's
Speaker 3: mansion where we want we ought to be able to
Speaker 3: you know, Republicans tend to be the party of free
Speaker 3: markets and abundance, right, so we want to bring we
Speaker 3: have to be able to bring these jobs here. We
Speaker 3: have to be able to have folks who want to
Speaker 3: cite their projects here have the comfort of knowing that
Speaker 3: their projects will still be viable ten years down the road.
Speaker 3: Where in states like New York or New Jersey, where
Speaker 3: they're very progressive, right, Brian, they're going to maybe pull
Speaker 3: the rug out from under a natural gas facility, and
Speaker 3: so there's no desire to invest there. We can do
Speaker 3: that here on. We can invest in that energy, we
Speaker 3: can bring those jobs to the state, and we can
Speaker 3: make some really great things happen over the next decade.
Speaker 1: And all it takes is getting out of the way.
Speaker 1: I mean, nothing causes more energy to be more expensive
Speaker 1: than government regulations. I mean the edicts and mandates in
Speaker 1: pursuit of this impossible to catch carbon elimination. It's only
Speaker 1: because of that that we have high energy bills. It's
Speaker 1: just we Again, I always go back to it's we're
Speaker 1: cutting our own throat. We're making our lives miserable just
Speaker 1: because someone waved a pen and signed a piece legislation
Speaker 1: forcing people to do something the otherwise wouldn't do. Well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean the one of the most recent
Speaker 3: examples of that was in the Inflation Reduction Act. Part
Speaker 3: of the requirements there around coal were to implement so
Speaker 3: called clean coal technologies that don't even actually exist or
Speaker 3: viable right now, and so facto killing a form of
Speaker 3: energy production by creating an unachievable bar for this industry
Speaker 3: to meat. And that's two principles that we drive that
Speaker 3: here in this report with the Bucket Institute was ending
Speaker 3: subsidies that hide the real cost of energy right or
Speaker 3: distort the energy market. And then also getting to making
Speaker 3: sure environmental policies actually promote well being rather than desired
Speaker 3: public policy outcomes or favorite interests. Right. We do those
Speaker 3: some of those things, we're going to have a better
Speaker 3: product we're going to have and when we're going to
Speaker 3: get that energy we need at the price that it
Speaker 3: ought to be. Well.
Speaker 1: And as you noted earlier, the Republicans control Columbus US
Speaker 1: and ergo which direction we go in? Do the Republicans
Speaker 1: have the will to take on these challenges in the
Speaker 1: face of the Greta thunbirds of the world frowning and
Speaker 1: waving their finger at them.
Speaker 3: I think they would do it gleefully. Brian, Well, the
Speaker 3: early signals are I think what we'll see later today
Speaker 3: actually is there will be a press conference I believe
Speaker 3: is happening today. It's supposed to happen yesterday, It might
Speaker 3: happen today from the House introducing their energy legislation. We
Speaker 3: haven't seen the details of it yet, but from what
Speaker 3: we hear, it should be very much in the vein
Speaker 3: of what we're talking about. Good. The Senate has already
Speaker 3: introduced a placeholder bill with the Senator Ryanikey from North
Speaker 3: central Ohio, Senate Bill two, and that will be the
Speaker 3: Senate we're told that will be the Senate's version of
Speaker 3: energy legislation that'll get to the heart of a lot
Speaker 3: of the problems we've been seeing. So there's already movement
Speaker 3: in Columbus on tackling some of these things, and I
Speaker 3: think we'll see some really exciting opportunities.
Speaker 1: Oh that's wonderful. Well, you know you have a spot
Speaker 1: here in the fIF about Cassey Morning Show to bring
Speaker 1: the details to our attention if something gets handed out
Speaker 1: that we can all take a look at. And I'll
Speaker 1: remain cautiously optimistic that I would think that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: has opened the door to actually get something done. You know,
Speaker 1: he's on board with this, so we should get on
Speaker 1: board with this. And you can say it's consistent with
Speaker 1: the federal government's policy on energy all the above strategy.
Speaker 1: We need efficient, we need reliable, and that's what we're
Speaker 1: going to do here in Ohio. And let's be the
Speaker 1: first state to embrace this, get get back ahead of Indiana.
Speaker 3: It's why we put this report out. We wanted to
Speaker 3: be able to give lawmakers the foundational principles to be
Speaker 3: able to go out and do the hard work of
Speaker 3: policy making legislating, but do it in the right way,
Speaker 3: not not in the way they've been doing it for
Speaker 3: the past couple decades.
Speaker 1: Day Fourth Part Company this morning. I can't thank you
Speaker 1: for bringing this to our attention. Our meeting, me and
Speaker 1: my collective listening off is not the royal we Is
Speaker 1: there someplace or is there anything my listeners can do
Speaker 1: to try to advance this. We just wait and keep
Speaker 1: our powder dry until the legis gets rolled out. And
Speaker 1: if there is any of the above, what's the website
Speaker 1: we should consult to get the details on what you
Speaker 1: guys are doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, actually go visit our friends at the Buckeye
Speaker 3: Institute Buckeyeinstitute dot com. Go visit them. This report I've
Speaker 3: been talking about through the show is available there. We
Speaker 3: developed it because we want more people to be able
Speaker 3: to understand the past twenty five years of energy policy
Speaker 3: making that sort of got us where we are today.
Speaker 3: But then also have some principles they can embrace and
Speaker 3: take to their lawmakers and encourage them to apply these
Speaker 3: principles like ending subsidies or you know the environmental overreach
Speaker 3: that's happening in our country today. Go to Buckeyeinstitute dot com.
Speaker 3: Check them out, check out their report, and let us
Speaker 3: know what you think about it.
Speaker 1: Dave Williams can thank you enough for the details and
Speaker 1: the information. I'll look forward to having you back on
Speaker 1: the program really soon. Keep up the great work. Thanks
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