WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:06.400 Broadcasting from Studio A here at proven Winns Color Choice Shrubs. 2 00:00:06.440 --> 00:00:10.519 It's time for the Gardening Simplified podcast, radio and YouTube 3 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:15.119 show with Stacy Hervella me Rick Weisten, our engineer and 4 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:20.199 producer Adrianna Robinson. Today, Stacey, we talk about the color white, 5 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:27.199 a versatile neutral color and I think arguably designed to 6 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:32.320 be best appreciated at night or at twilight. There's a 7 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:37.439 reason right now that moon gardens are so popular, and 8 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:42.200 moon gardens, of course will make use of white flowers, gray, 9 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:47.479 silvery cast foliage. But then again, I'm a guy who 10 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:51.399 loves the moon at night shooting pictures of the moon. 11 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:55.399 I just find it so fascinating because I'm an Apollo 12 00:00:55.560 --> 00:00:59.560 age boy. I grew up in the sixties during the 13 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:03.079 Apollo Space Program and drank a lot of tang and 14 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:06.519 that kind of thing. But that's another story. So white 15 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:12.760 flowers can also attract nighttime pollinators and are perfect for 16 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:17.959 your landscape because, well, you've been working all day, you 17 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:21.079 come home at night, the sun starts to set. You 18 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:23.640 want to be able to enjoy your landscape some of 19 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:29.120 the flowers without getting into your what was it moss rows? Analogy? 20 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:32.359 You're not really into them, right, Yes, that's true, because 21 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:33.519 they've all closed up the. 22 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:36.760 Nothing to enjoy there. 23 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:41.400 But white flowers are just so classic and so elegant 24 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:47.040 in the landscape. I think about the smooth high ranges 25 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:52.040 flopping over, just gorgeous, full of flower on Cape Cod 26 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:56.840 where they have the clap boarder cedar shake shingles on 27 00:01:56.920 --> 00:01:59.959 the house, and then there they have the white trim 28 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:04.480 on these homes, and then those gorgeous white high dranges. Stacy. 29 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:10.479 White should not be an overlooked color in your landscape 30 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:12.120 when you're looking at flowers. 31 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:14.199 No, not by a long shot. And you know, I 32 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:17.319 think there's a lot that's said. You read articles, oh 33 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:20.719 plants and mood garden. White is so amazing at night 34 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:23.439 in the garden, and it's something that you, I don't 35 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:28.800 think can fully appreciate until you experience it. And I 36 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:31.240 have a magnolia I've talked about it on the show before. 37 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:35.599 Was near death when we moved into our house because 38 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:37.840 of a walnut and a whole bunch of other things. 39 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:40.599 And we change the way that the water drains off 40 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:42.400 our roof, and now it gets water. The walnut's gone, 41 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:44.360 and this thing has just made a stunning comeback. 42 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:44.919 It's huge. 43 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:49.719 It was absolutely covered in flowers this year, so magnolia stillata, 44 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:53.680 so it has white flowers. And every morning when I 45 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:56.840 would go to make my breakfast before work, it was 46 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:02.360 just the most ethereal gloe lowing blue in the morning light, 47 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:04.439 and it's so hard like it's one of those things 48 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:06.520 you could take a picture which you can never fully 49 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:09.520 capture what that looks and feels like. And this is 50 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:11.759 the kind of thing that, Yeah, once you have experienced that, 51 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:15.960 you're like, I want that at my house right now. 52 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:17.479 And you know you don't have to go. 53 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:20.479 Full on, you know. Vita Sackville West. Vita Sackville West 54 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:24.879 is an English gardener who famously designed a white garden 55 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:27.439 and kind of popularized this entire idea. And if you 56 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:30.319 ever go to Longwood Gardens, they have a white garden 57 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:32.319 designed using her principles. 58 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:33.960 So you don't have to go full on. 59 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:35.840 You don't have to make everything in your garden white 60 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:38.719 if you love all of that different color, but some 61 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:41.879 white will really make a huge difference in white flowers, 62 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:46.240 white foliage, silvery foliage will definitely make a difference in 63 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:48.919 your garden. And you know, you can just start with 64 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:50.560 a little bit, and the next thing you know, you're 65 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:52.000 going to be addicted and want to add a whole 66 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:52.439 bunch more. 67 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:56.240 You know that. That makes me think of years ago, 68 00:03:56.520 --> 00:04:01.639 before air conditioning was invented. They would have get togethers. 69 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:05.400 They would have meetings, often underneath trees in the evening 70 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:08.960 hours when it's cooler or in the shade. That's how 71 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:13.919 Wall Street started in New York. It was underneath a tree. 72 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:19.040 Thomas Jefferson would have cabinet meetings underneath trees in the shade. 73 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:21.839 And so you think about that, being able to enjoy 74 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:24.439 your landscape in your garden in the cool of the 75 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:29.680 evening hours, and white flowers really put the exclamation point 76 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:33.879 on an area like that. White is a popular car color. Also, 77 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:36.879 by the way, get better resale value if your car 78 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:37.480 is white. 79 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:38.759 My first car was white. 80 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:40.560 It did not have resale value by the end of 81 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:43.040 me being done with it as a sixteen year old. 82 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:49.199 But yes, and reflex of course heat also. But white 83 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:54.839 very popular, very versatile, and considered a neutral color. Also 84 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:56.879 if you use it in your landscape, if you can 85 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.720 find an area where you can provide a black back, 86 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:03.439 maybe it's a fence, maybe it's a shed done in 87 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:08.399 white trim that is stunning. And then don't forget a 88 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:13.360 white bench or white pots in the landscape. Many times 89 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:17.519 people will overlook white let's say white ceramic pots. They're 90 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:19.560 ideal for putting combinations. 91 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:22.079 Yeah, because you never have to stick to the same 92 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:25.600 color combination every single year. You can totally reimagine everything, 93 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:29.360 you know, Like my containers tend to go onto the 94 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.720 hot side. I have a lot of like orange, bright orange, 95 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:34.360 which I love, but it does kind of limit me 96 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:38.079 somewhat correct where. Yeah, I have one white that I love. 97 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:40.040 Every single year, I'm like, I wish I had more 98 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:41.399 of this because it's so versatile. 99 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:45.759 Of course, also when you're using a lot of white 100 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:49.199 in the landscape or white plants, I recommend you look 101 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:55.639 at texture and leaf size. You want variation in varieties 102 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.759 of plants, leaf size and texture, because if you don't 103 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:02.839 get that, then too much white can become just a 104 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:09.439 real mess. And so using it maybe somewhat judiciously in 105 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:12.879 the landscape would not be a bad idea, But it's 106 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:17.079 great for combining with other plants. For color, I love 107 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:21.839 the white combination color with lime, green or yellow. I 108 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:26.480 think about the white and yellow daffodils, for example, so gorgeous. 109 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:30.560 A pink and white combination is beautiful in the landscape. 110 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:34.120 You think of all the wonderful panicle hydranges. We talked 111 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:38.959 about wougilla last week, but also I think an annual 112 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:45.560 super beina pink cashmere verbina. Wow, and that plant naturally 113 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:49.560 uses that combination of white and pink in the landscape. 114 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:52.079 I like that combination, Stacy. 115 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:53.600 Yeah, I love it too. With a little bit of 116 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:55.519 like purply blue in there and it just kind of 117 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:57.920 white is a great blender. You know, if you have 118 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:00.399 two colors and you're not really sure how you're going 119 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:03.399 to kind of make the transition from one to the other, 120 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.199 just throw some white stuff in there, something like a 121 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:09.040 sweet alyssum, even though it's very small, so some of 122 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:11.439 that around and it just kind of helps to knit 123 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:12.160 everything together. 124 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:15.879 Add some silvery foliage. Of course, the combination of white 125 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:19.279 and blue is great to make an area feel cooler. 126 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:26.800 And Stacey, I planted one of the white reminiscent roses 127 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:31.920 in my landscape. Talk about a classic just classy style 128 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:35.360 and design to that plant with that white color. It's 129 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:36.160 one of my favorites. 130 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:37.839 Oh and great fragrance to you on that one. 131 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:42.199 Yeah, so I have to give you a limerick on 132 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:45.720 the color white. But you've got a bear in mind here, folks, 133 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:50.639 that here in Michigan. So we live in West Michigan, 134 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:55.000 and I got eighty inches of snow at my house 135 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:59.160 last winter, just north of us, and sue Saint Marie 136 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.079 they got a hundred ninety eight inches. 137 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:03.519 Well that's a fair bit north of us, not fear 138 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:06.079 north of us, but it's still in mission. It is, 139 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:08.360 it is. I'm glad we did not get that much. 140 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:12.720 The snow started falling in November. We got thunder snow 141 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:16.000 in December. We got snow twenty seven out of the 142 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:20.759 thirty one days in January this past year. The snow 143 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:25.560 continued in March and then April. I'm sorry, I'm not 144 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:28.560 trying to whine here, but I'm just not into snow. 145 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:33.480 So I thought, okay, my white limb a rick because 146 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:38.600 you know, snow white was befriended by woodland animals. You know, 147 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:43.080 in my landscape, the woodland animals eat my landscapes. So 148 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:46.919 maybe if you look at the seven dwarfs, I'm grumpy. 149 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:49.600 I don't know I find snow to be such a 150 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:54.000 bummer makes my fingers and toes painfully number. So you'll 151 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:56.720 just have to pardon that. I love white in my 152 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:02.360 garden as long as it's spring or summer, springs arrive 153 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:05.679 to be of good cheer. Still don't like snow to 154 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:08.879 be crystal clear. They say, come on, Rick, just chill. 155 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:12.799 But you wouldn't like it either until you live with 156 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:16.320 it half the year. And I was thinking that, Stacey, 157 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:19.639 it's November through April six months, okay, so now I'm 158 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:24.360 excited it's spring. Will I put white in my garden? Absolutely, 159 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:27.039 because I love the color in my garden. 160 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:28.919 So what's your favorite white flower you got in your garden? 161 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:31.919 Well, i'll tell you what. What's loads of fun for me, 162 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:35.480 and it's inexpensive. You get some moonflower. 163 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:37.120 Seeds, yeah, fabulous. 164 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:39.720 Plant them, they vine on some sort of fence and 165 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.759 then when they bloom and the flowers just spiral open. 166 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:49.840 Moonflower is one of my favorites. And another vine and 167 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:53.720 some people could poo poo this, but sweet autumn clematis, 168 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:56.000 I'm sorry. When that's in full bloom, I know it 169 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:59.360 can be kind of invasive, but when that's in full bloom. 170 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:01.919 Wow, pretty impressive and spells amazing as well. 171 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:05.799 It's a stunner. We'll see what Stacy has on her 172 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:08.759 mind for plants on trial. I'm going to assume it's 173 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:12.360 a white blooming plant, but we'll see. That's coming up next. 174 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:14.960 Here on the Gardening Simplified. 175 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:23.279 Chip, beautify your home and community with proven Winner's Color 176 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:26.240 Choice Shrubs with over three hundred and twenty five unique 177 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:29.480 varieties to choose from. There's a flowering shrubber evergreen for 178 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:32.720 every taste and every space. Just look for the distinctive 179 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:35.480 white container your local garden center or learn more at 180 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:40.960 proven Winner's Color Choice dot Com. You're Reading's Gardening friends, 181 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:44.559 and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where we 182 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:47.120 are talking about white flowers. And we've done a couple 183 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:51.919 of different shows on specific flower colors, but I feel 184 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:56.240 like white flowers are kind of like the back pocket 185 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:00.519 solution to like any garden challenge, you know, like if 186 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:03.360 you don't know what to do, if you know, does 187 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:06.080 this color go with this color? You know, most of 188 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:08.480 the time, if you pick a white flower something with 189 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:11.519 silvery foliage, as we talked about, it's going to function 190 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:14.320 to kind of help blend everything together. I mean, there 191 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:17.039 are some exceptions, but usually a little bit of white 192 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.000 in the garden is always welcome. And in my time 193 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:23.679 in the industry here, I have been on dozens of 194 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:30.080 different tours with landscapers, landscape designers and you know, gardeners, 195 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:35.000 and I can tell you from some of the biggest, 196 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:39.200 most elaborate and extravagant estates that I've ever seen, to 197 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:43.879 you know, even just a regular nice home that has 198 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:47.960 had a professional landscape design. If there is one secret 199 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:52.440 that professional landscape designers have, it is using white flowers. 200 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:55.559 I like that. And if you think about it, and 201 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:59.879 you talk about designers, think about the interior of the house. 202 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:03.879 You can have different colors in the room, but that 203 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:08.720 classic white trim kind of, as you mentioned, ties and 204 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:09.960 pulls everything together. 205 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:12.759 It is yeah, And you know, I think that for 206 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:15.639 landscape designers, they don't have to worry about offending anyone's 207 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:20.440 delicate sensibilities with white, it looks good all of the time. 208 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:22.240 It's just I. 209 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:25.840 Cannot even tell you of seeing literally dozens and dozens 210 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:29.279 of gardens around the country. White is the thing now 211 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:31.840 in some places it's definitely way more popular than others. 212 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:34.879 If you go down to Texas, like an evergreen landscape 213 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:38.399 with some white accents is like everybody, everybody has that. 214 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:41.840 But yeah, I mean it just always looks good. It 215 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:44.360 looks good with any house color because so sometimes you know, 216 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:49.080 different house colors can be very challenging to have, you know, 217 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:53.399 to landscape, especially like the orange and red brick, and 218 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:55.840 you know, white is something that you can always turn 219 00:12:55.879 --> 00:13:00.320 to and will always look great. So yes, of course, 220 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:02.720 today's plant on trial is going to be a white 221 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:06.200 flowered plant, and we have quite a few in nature 222 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:11.879 that white flowers are actually very prominent and prevalent across 223 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:16.440 many different genera of plants in our garden. But today's 224 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.480 plant on trial, which is actually new at garden centers 225 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:25.039 this year, is Oh So Easy ice Bay rose. Wow, 226 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:28.679 and this is a big deal. So I'm just talking 227 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:30.720 about it like, oh, it's just a white rose. This 228 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:34.679 is the first ever white rose in the Oh So 229 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:38.600 Easy series. Now we have introduced We've been offering oh 230 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:42.039 So Easy roses in the proven Winner's line since well 231 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:44.360 before I worked here, so I would say at least 232 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:47.240 sixteen years we have been offering Oh So Easy roses 233 00:13:47.639 --> 00:13:51.639 and it is just now in twenty twenty five that 234 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:56.039 we actually have a white Oh So Easy rose. And 235 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:59.240 this may come as a surprise to our listeners, but 236 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:04.919 in plant general or a different genus of plants, white 237 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:07.960 is actually the hardest color to develop, and so it 238 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:10.440 comes natural, you know, Like, try to find a viburnum 239 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:12.759 with a flower color other than white, you you won't 240 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:15.080 really be able to do it. Whereas with some plants, 241 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:20.720 including roses, it is actually very difficult to develop a 242 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:25.559 white variety that is vigorous and floriferous. 243 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:29.840 I love that, and I love Oh So Easy roses 244 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:34.440 because they're fantastic in the landscape as drifts. So if 245 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:37.679 you can add a drift of white, wow, right, that 246 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:38.399 is a deal. 247 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:41.240 You know, This is what I've seen consistently with those landscapers. 248 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:44.440 A nice hedge along the front of a home. Yeah, 249 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:48.519 a drift, a specimen flanking the front porch. You really 250 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:51.559 can't go wrong. But it literally did take us at 251 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:54.200 least sixteen and if you count the you know, time 252 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:58.559 and development, probably closer to twenty years to actually finally 253 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:01.360 have a white rows in the Oh So Easy series. Now, 254 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:04.759 the O So Easy series of landscape roses are all 255 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:08.480 they're in that series because they are extremely disease resistant, 256 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:11.440 so they're fluoriferous. They bloom all summer without dead heading. 257 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:13.720 But forc something to be an o So easy rose, 258 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:16.279 it really has to have the top of the line 259 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:21.240 disease resistance, so not getting powdery meldew, not getting black spot, 260 00:15:21.799 --> 00:15:23.559 and it took us a really, really long time to 261 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:25.879 find that so oh so easy Ice bay is that plant. 262 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:28.279 I'm super excited that it is available at garden centers 263 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:31.600 this year for the first time. It has some of 264 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.360 I think the glossiest, darkest green foliage I have ever 265 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:38.840 seen on any rows, which really just gives it that 266 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:43.840 extra landscape star power. It looks absolutely amazing. The flowers 267 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:46.360 are semi double, so when I say semi double, what 268 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:50.720 that means is that there are multiple layers of petals, 269 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:53.159 not just a single layer of petals. But you can 270 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:56.559 still see the center of the of the flower. And 271 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:58.759 that's really good if you want to tract pollinators, because 272 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:01.039 if the pollinators can and if you can see the pollen, 273 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:04.440 so can the pollinators, which means that they will then 274 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:07.200 be attracted to that. Now, this is a plant that 275 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:11.120 will bloom all summer long without any need to deadhead it, 276 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:14.440 which is a good thing, and it is self cleaning, 277 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:16.679 So if you're not familiar with that term, a self 278 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:19.320 cleaning rose is simply a rose that as the flower 279 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:22.440 starts to fade, the petals just kind of bust apart 280 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:25.720 and fall on the ground themselves. This is an especially 281 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:28.360 good thing in my opinion when it comes to white roses, 282 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:32.720 because most white roses, we have to face facts, do 283 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:38.360 not age gracefully. They turn brown and can look pretty gnarly. 284 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:40.320 If they're not self cleaning, then you just kind of 285 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:44.279 get this like big brown sad clump of petals nodding 286 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:47.480 off of your plants. Whereas as a self cleaning rose, 287 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:50.360 the paddles just shatter as the bloom ends. That makes 288 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:52.840 it not a great cut flower, but it does make 289 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:56.720 an excellent choice for the landscape. 290 00:16:56.840 --> 00:16:59.440 You're right about that. With a white flower, if it 291 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:02.000 gets any kind of sort of blemish on it, yeah, 292 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:02.919 it stands out. 293 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:06.720 Yeah, And we definitely, I'm sure Adriana can attest. Photographing 294 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:10.119 white flowers can be very challenging because, yeah, any any 295 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:13.400 little one that starts to age, the brown really does show. 296 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:15.440 You're not going to see this like from a distance 297 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:17.279 in your garden. But when you really start getting in 298 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:19.680 there and digging in, that's when you'll see it. So 299 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:25.440 this is a very clean, very just nice looking, attractive 300 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:28.640 rose that I think is a great problem solver. Now, 301 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:31.160 like most roses, it is going to need full sun 302 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:34.880 so that is a minimum of six hours of bright 303 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:38.200 sunshine every single day, and that will give you the 304 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:41.720 very best you know flower set as well as that 305 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:44.559 best disease resistance. That's very important. Even though we test 306 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:47.839 our plants to be resistant to disease, you know, there 307 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:50.880 is a part of that of that exchange that depends 308 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:52.480 on where you plant it and how you care for it. 309 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:54.640 So that means you're going to plant it with good 310 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:58.079 air circulation, You're going to follow proper spacing. It does 311 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:00.960 reach two to three feet tall, and so you're going 312 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:03.200 to want to put it more space, more on the 313 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:05.559 two foot range if you are in a cooler climate, 314 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:07.960 more on the three foot range if you're in a 315 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:12.039 warmer climate. But proper spacing and good sunshine will do 316 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.440 a whole lot to help you prevent that black spot 317 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.039 and powdery mildew from from developing. Because they have good 318 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:20.759 air circulation and the foliage will dry out quickly. 319 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:23.960 And if you're keeping score at home, Stacy's talking about 320 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:29.240 oh so easy ice bay rose, and I'm excited about this. 321 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:32.880 What popped into my head, Stacey, was a was a 322 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:36.559 marketing approach on this cool uh oh so easy ice 323 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:40.400 base bay rose. It took us twenty years to get 324 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:40.880 it white. 325 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:43.039 That's good. 326 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:45.000 I can see it on a bill. 327 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:45.240 All right. 328 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:47.319 I am going to pass that along to our ad 329 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:50.039 writers and we will give you credit for them. Sure, 330 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:52.640 we would compensate you with a know so easy ice 331 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:55.559 bay rose. But I know you, like me, have deer, yes, 332 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:58.359 and yes, Unfortunately the deer do you love this much 333 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:01.119 to anyone's surprise because it is thorny, But the deer 334 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:02.440 still do love it? 335 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:03.880 Now? Really cool. 336 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:07.880 Other thing about this plant hardy down to USDA Zone 337 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:10.720 three heat tolerant through USDA Zone nine. 338 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:12.039 That's cold, that's hot. 339 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:14.839 Yeah. I mean that basically means that like ninety some 340 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:18.240 percent of this country can grow so easy ice bay rose, 341 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.039 which is very cool. That two to three feet tall 342 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:24.160 and wide size, very useful for like a low hedge. 343 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:26.880 You really this is not a plant that you can overdo, 344 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.319 so I think it kind of is really only limited 345 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:31.599 by your imagination. So if you want to use it 346 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:35.039 as an edging in a landscape, it works really well 347 00:19:35.079 --> 00:19:36.960 that way. If you want to just add it to 348 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:39.960 a flower garden, if you want to plant a big 349 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:44.000 block of it, like you were talking about Rick in drifts, 350 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:46.519 just very very versatile. And you will see too with 351 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:49.279 that foliage and Adrian Animals show pictures of it in 352 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:51.279 the YouTube version, so you can check us out there. 353 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:55.079 Just the foliage is just so unbelievably glossy, and that 354 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:59.799 is actually a characteristic that is strongly correlated with disease resistance, yes, 355 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.440 because it means it has a thicker cuticle and then 356 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:06.680 is less likely to encourage the funngal leaf spots and 357 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:10.759 so forth to develop on that plant. So it's a 358 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:13.119 special plant. I'm super excited that it is going to 359 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:16.440 be finally in garden centers. So if you've been thinking 360 00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:18.319 about adding a rose and you don't know which one 361 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:22.039 you want and you just want a classic choice, oh 362 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:24.839 so easy ice Bay is definitely a good one, Rick, 363 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:28.400 I know you were talking about reminiscent Crama rose. That 364 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:30.039 one is also a great choice that is going to 365 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:31.680 be more fragrant, but it's going to have more of 366 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:36.759 a hybrid t type look, taller, bulkier, fuller flowers. Where 367 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:39.039 is Oh So easy? Ice Bay is really a workaday 368 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:42.319 landscape rose that you can put, you know, like you 369 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:45.960 would any other landscape shrub and enjoy summer's summer flowers 370 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:50.519 and enjoy flowers all summer long. 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