1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Broadcasting from Studio A here at proven Winns Color Choice Shrubs. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,519 It's time for the Gardening Simplified podcast, radio and YouTube 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,119 show with Stacy Hervella me Rick Weisten, our engineer and 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:20,199 producer Adrianna Robinson. Today, Stacey, we talk about the color white, 5 00:00:20,359 --> 00:00:27,199 a versatile neutral color and I think arguably designed to 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:32,320 be best appreciated at night or at twilight. There's a 7 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:37,439 reason right now that moon gardens are so popular, and 8 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,200 moon gardens, of course will make use of white flowers, gray, 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,479 silvery cast foliage. But then again, I'm a guy who 10 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,399 loves the moon at night shooting pictures of the moon. 11 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,399 I just find it so fascinating because I'm an Apollo 12 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,560 age boy. I grew up in the sixties during the 13 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,079 Apollo Space Program and drank a lot of tang and 14 00:01:03,119 --> 00:01:06,519 that kind of thing. But that's another story. So white 15 00:01:06,519 --> 00:01:12,760 flowers can also attract nighttime pollinators and are perfect for 16 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,959 your landscape because, well, you've been working all day, you 17 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,079 come home at night, the sun starts to set. You 18 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,640 want to be able to enjoy your landscape some of 19 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,120 the flowers without getting into your what was it moss rows? Analogy? 20 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,359 You're not really into them, right, Yes, that's true, because 21 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,519 they've all closed up the. 22 00:01:35,799 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: Nothing to enjoy there. 23 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: But white flowers are just so classic and so elegant 24 00:01:41,719 --> 00:01:47,040 in the landscape. I think about the smooth high ranges 25 00:01:47,719 --> 00:01:52,040 flopping over, just gorgeous, full of flower on Cape Cod 26 00:01:52,879 --> 00:01:56,840 where they have the clap boarder cedar shake shingles on 27 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,959 the house, and then there they have the white trim 28 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,480 on these homes, and then those gorgeous white high dranges. Stacy. 29 00:02:05,079 --> 00:02:10,479 White should not be an overlooked color in your landscape 30 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,120 when you're looking at flowers. 31 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,199 Speaker 3: No, not by a long shot. And you know, I 32 00:02:14,199 --> 00:02:17,319 think there's a lot that's said. You read articles, oh 33 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,719 plants and mood garden. White is so amazing at night 34 00:02:20,759 --> 00:02:23,439 in the garden, and it's something that you, I don't 35 00:02:23,439 --> 00:02:28,800 think can fully appreciate until you experience it. And I 36 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,240 have a magnolia I've talked about it on the show before. 37 00:02:32,159 --> 00:02:35,599 Was near death when we moved into our house because 38 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,840 of a walnut and a whole bunch of other things. 39 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:40,599 And we change the way that the water drains off 40 00:02:40,599 --> 00:02:42,400 our roof, and now it gets water. The walnut's gone, 41 00:02:42,439 --> 00:02:44,360 and this thing has just made a stunning comeback. 42 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: It's huge. 43 00:02:45,439 --> 00:02:49,719 Speaker 3: It was absolutely covered in flowers this year, so magnolia stillata, 44 00:02:49,759 --> 00:02:53,680 so it has white flowers. And every morning when I 45 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,840 would go to make my breakfast before work, it was 46 00:02:57,159 --> 00:03:02,360 just the most ethereal gloe lowing blue in the morning light, 47 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:04,439 and it's so hard like it's one of those things 48 00:03:04,479 --> 00:03:06,520 you could take a picture which you can never fully 49 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,520 capture what that looks and feels like. And this is 50 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,759 the kind of thing that, Yeah, once you have experienced that, 51 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,960 you're like, I want that at my house right now. 52 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,479 Speaker 2: And you know you don't have to go. 53 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,479 Speaker 3: Full on, you know. Vita Sackville West. Vita Sackville West 54 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,879 is an English gardener who famously designed a white garden 55 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:27,439 and kind of popularized this entire idea. And if you 56 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,319 ever go to Longwood Gardens, they have a white garden 57 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,319 designed using her principles. 58 00:03:32,599 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: So you don't have to go full on. 59 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: You don't have to make everything in your garden white 60 00:03:35,879 --> 00:03:38,719 if you love all of that different color, but some 61 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,879 white will really make a huge difference in white flowers, 62 00:03:41,919 --> 00:03:46,240 white foliage, silvery foliage will definitely make a difference in 63 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,919 your garden. And you know, you can just start with 64 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,560 a little bit, and the next thing you know, you're 65 00:03:50,599 --> 00:03:52,000 going to be addicted and want to add a whole 66 00:03:52,039 --> 00:03:52,439 bunch more. 67 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: You know that. That makes me think of years ago, 68 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:01,639 before air conditioning was invented. They would have get togethers. 69 00:04:01,639 --> 00:04:05,400 They would have meetings, often underneath trees in the evening 70 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:08,960 hours when it's cooler or in the shade. That's how 71 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,919 Wall Street started in New York. It was underneath a tree. 72 00:04:14,199 --> 00:04:19,040 Thomas Jefferson would have cabinet meetings underneath trees in the shade. 73 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,839 And so you think about that, being able to enjoy 74 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:24,439 your landscape in your garden in the cool of the 75 00:04:24,519 --> 00:04:29,680 evening hours, and white flowers really put the exclamation point 76 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,879 on an area like that. White is a popular car color. Also, 77 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,879 by the way, get better resale value if your car 78 00:04:36,959 --> 00:04:37,480 is white. 79 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:38,759 Speaker 2: My first car was white. 80 00:04:38,879 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: It did not have resale value by the end of 81 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,040 me being done with it as a sixteen year old. 82 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:49,199 Speaker 1: But yes, and reflex of course heat also. But white 83 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:54,839 very popular, very versatile, and considered a neutral color. Also 84 00:04:54,879 --> 00:04:56,879 if you use it in your landscape, if you can 85 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,720 find an area where you can provide a black back, 86 00:05:00,439 --> 00:05:03,439 maybe it's a fence, maybe it's a shed done in 87 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,399 white trim that is stunning. And then don't forget a 88 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,360 white bench or white pots in the landscape. Many times 89 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,519 people will overlook white let's say white ceramic pots. They're 90 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,560 ideal for putting combinations. 91 00:05:19,759 --> 00:05:22,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you never have to stick to the same 92 00:05:22,079 --> 00:05:25,600 color combination every single year. You can totally reimagine everything, 93 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:29,360 you know, Like my containers tend to go onto the 94 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,720 hot side. I have a lot of like orange, bright orange, 95 00:05:31,879 --> 00:05:34,360 which I love, but it does kind of limit me 96 00:05:34,439 --> 00:05:38,079 somewhat correct where. Yeah, I have one white that I love. 97 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,040 Every single year, I'm like, I wish I had more 98 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,399 of this because it's so versatile. 99 00:05:42,759 --> 00:05:45,759 Speaker 1: Of course, also when you're using a lot of white 100 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:49,199 in the landscape or white plants, I recommend you look 101 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:55,639 at texture and leaf size. You want variation in varieties 102 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,759 of plants, leaf size and texture, because if you don't 103 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,839 get that, then too much white can become just a 104 00:06:02,879 --> 00:06:09,439 real mess. And so using it maybe somewhat judiciously in 105 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,879 the landscape would not be a bad idea, But it's 106 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,079 great for combining with other plants. For color, I love 107 00:06:17,199 --> 00:06:21,839 the white combination color with lime, green or yellow. I 108 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:26,480 think about the white and yellow daffodils, for example, so gorgeous. 109 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,560 A pink and white combination is beautiful in the landscape. 110 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,120 You think of all the wonderful panicle hydranges. We talked 111 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,959 about wougilla last week, but also I think an annual 112 00:06:39,079 --> 00:06:45,560 super beina pink cashmere verbina. Wow, and that plant naturally 113 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,560 uses that combination of white and pink in the landscape. 114 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:52,079 I like that combination, Stacy. 115 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it too. With a little bit of 116 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,519 like purply blue in there and it just kind of 117 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:57,920 white is a great blender. You know, if you have 118 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,399 two colors and you're not really sure how you're going 119 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:03,399 to kind of make the transition from one to the other, 120 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,199 just throw some white stuff in there, something like a 121 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,040 sweet alyssum, even though it's very small, so some of 122 00:07:09,079 --> 00:07:11,439 that around and it just kind of helps to knit 123 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,160 everything together. 124 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,879 Speaker 1: Add some silvery foliage. Of course, the combination of white 125 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,279 and blue is great to make an area feel cooler. 126 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:26,800 And Stacey, I planted one of the white reminiscent roses 127 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,920 in my landscape. Talk about a classic just classy style 128 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,360 and design to that plant with that white color. It's 129 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:36,160 one of my favorites. 130 00:07:36,199 --> 00:07:37,839 Speaker 3: Oh and great fragrance to you on that one. 131 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have to give you a limerick on 132 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:45,720 the color white. But you've got a bear in mind here, folks, 133 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,639 that here in Michigan. So we live in West Michigan, 134 00:07:51,199 --> 00:07:55,000 and I got eighty inches of snow at my house 135 00:07:55,079 --> 00:07:59,160 last winter, just north of us, and sue Saint Marie 136 00:07:59,199 --> 00:08:01,079 they got a hundred ninety eight inches. 137 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,519 Speaker 3: Well that's a fair bit north of us, not fear 138 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:06,079 north of us, but it's still in mission. It is, 139 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,360 it is. I'm glad we did not get that much. 140 00:08:08,519 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: The snow started falling in November. We got thunder snow 141 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,000 in December. We got snow twenty seven out of the 142 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:20,759 thirty one days in January this past year. The snow 143 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,560 continued in March and then April. I'm sorry, I'm not 144 00:08:25,639 --> 00:08:28,560 trying to whine here, but I'm just not into snow. 145 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:33,480 So I thought, okay, my white limb a rick because 146 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:38,600 you know, snow white was befriended by woodland animals. You know, 147 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,080 in my landscape, the woodland animals eat my landscapes. So 148 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:46,919 maybe if you look at the seven dwarfs, I'm grumpy. 149 00:08:47,039 --> 00:08:49,600 I don't know I find snow to be such a 150 00:08:49,639 --> 00:08:54,000 bummer makes my fingers and toes painfully number. So you'll 151 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,720 just have to pardon that. I love white in my 152 00:08:56,919 --> 00:09:02,360 garden as long as it's spring or summer, springs arrive 153 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,679 to be of good cheer. Still don't like snow to 154 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:08,879 be crystal clear. They say, come on, Rick, just chill. 155 00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:12,799 But you wouldn't like it either until you live with 156 00:09:12,879 --> 00:09:16,320 it half the year. And I was thinking that, Stacey, 157 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,639 it's November through April six months, okay, so now I'm 158 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,360 excited it's spring. Will I put white in my garden? Absolutely, 159 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:27,039 because I love the color in my garden. 160 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,919 Speaker 3: So what's your favorite white flower you got in your garden? 161 00:09:29,039 --> 00:09:31,919 Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you what. What's loads of fun for me, 162 00:09:32,039 --> 00:09:35,480 and it's inexpensive. You get some moonflower. 163 00:09:34,879 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: Seeds, yeah, fabulous. 164 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: Plant them, they vine on some sort of fence and 165 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:43,759 then when they bloom and the flowers just spiral open. 166 00:09:44,799 --> 00:09:49,840 Moonflower is one of my favorites. And another vine and 167 00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:53,720 some people could poo poo this, but sweet autumn clematis, 168 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,000 I'm sorry. When that's in full bloom, I know it 169 00:09:56,039 --> 00:09:59,360 can be kind of invasive, but when that's in full bloom. 170 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,919 Speaker 3: Wow, pretty impressive and spells amazing as well. 171 00:10:02,159 --> 00:10:05,799 Speaker 1: It's a stunner. We'll see what Stacy has on her 172 00:10:05,879 --> 00:10:08,759 mind for plants on trial. I'm going to assume it's 173 00:10:08,759 --> 00:10:12,360 a white blooming plant, but we'll see. That's coming up next. 174 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:14,960 Here on the Gardening Simplified. 175 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:23,279 Speaker 3: Chip, beautify your home and community with proven Winner's Color 176 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,240 Choice Shrubs with over three hundred and twenty five unique 177 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,480 varieties to choose from. There's a flowering shrubber evergreen for 178 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:32,720 every taste and every space. Just look for the distinctive 179 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,480 white container your local garden center or learn more at 180 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:40,960 proven Winner's Color Choice dot Com. You're Reading's Gardening friends, 181 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,559 and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where we 182 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,120 are talking about white flowers. And we've done a couple 183 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,919 of different shows on specific flower colors, but I feel 184 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,240 like white flowers are kind of like the back pocket 185 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,519 solution to like any garden challenge, you know, like if 186 00:11:00,519 --> 00:11:03,360 you don't know what to do, if you know, does 187 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:06,080 this color go with this color? You know, most of 188 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,480 the time, if you pick a white flower something with 189 00:11:08,519 --> 00:11:11,519 silvery foliage, as we talked about, it's going to function 190 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,320 to kind of help blend everything together. I mean, there 191 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,039 are some exceptions, but usually a little bit of white 192 00:11:17,039 --> 00:11:20,000 in the garden is always welcome. And in my time 193 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,679 in the industry here, I have been on dozens of 194 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:30,080 different tours with landscapers, landscape designers and you know, gardeners, 195 00:11:30,879 --> 00:11:35,000 and I can tell you from some of the biggest, 196 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:39,200 most elaborate and extravagant estates that I've ever seen, to 197 00:11:39,759 --> 00:11:43,879 you know, even just a regular nice home that has 198 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:47,960 had a professional landscape design. If there is one secret 199 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,440 that professional landscape designers have, it is using white flowers. 200 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: I like that. And if you think about it, and 201 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,879 you talk about designers, think about the interior of the house. 202 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,879 You can have different colors in the room, but that 203 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,720 classic white trim kind of, as you mentioned, ties and 204 00:12:08,759 --> 00:12:09,960 pulls everything together. 205 00:12:10,159 --> 00:12:12,759 Speaker 3: It is yeah, And you know, I think that for 206 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,639 landscape designers, they don't have to worry about offending anyone's 207 00:12:15,639 --> 00:12:20,440 delicate sensibilities with white, it looks good all of the time. 208 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: It's just I. 209 00:12:21,919 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: Cannot even tell you of seeing literally dozens and dozens 210 00:12:25,879 --> 00:12:29,279 of gardens around the country. White is the thing now 211 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,840 in some places it's definitely way more popular than others. 212 00:12:31,879 --> 00:12:34,879 If you go down to Texas, like an evergreen landscape 213 00:12:34,919 --> 00:12:38,399 with some white accents is like everybody, everybody has that. 214 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,840 But yeah, I mean it just always looks good. It 215 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,360 looks good with any house color because so sometimes you know, 216 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:49,080 different house colors can be very challenging to have, you know, 217 00:12:49,159 --> 00:12:53,399 to landscape, especially like the orange and red brick, and 218 00:12:53,639 --> 00:12:55,840 you know, white is something that you can always turn 219 00:12:55,879 --> 00:13:00,320 to and will always look great. So yes, of course, 220 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,720 today's plant on trial is going to be a white 221 00:13:02,799 --> 00:13:06,200 flowered plant, and we have quite a few in nature 222 00:13:06,279 --> 00:13:11,879 that white flowers are actually very prominent and prevalent across 223 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,440 many different genera of plants in our garden. But today's 224 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,480 plant on trial, which is actually new at garden centers 225 00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:25,039 this year, is Oh So Easy ice Bay rose. Wow, 226 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,679 and this is a big deal. So I'm just talking 227 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,720 about it like, oh, it's just a white rose. This 228 00:13:30,879 --> 00:13:34,679 is the first ever white rose in the Oh So 229 00:13:34,799 --> 00:13:38,600 Easy series. Now we have introduced We've been offering oh 230 00:13:38,639 --> 00:13:42,039 So Easy roses in the proven Winner's line since well 231 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,360 before I worked here, so I would say at least 232 00:13:44,399 --> 00:13:47,240 sixteen years we have been offering Oh So Easy roses 233 00:13:47,639 --> 00:13:51,639 and it is just now in twenty twenty five that 234 00:13:51,759 --> 00:13:56,039 we actually have a white Oh So Easy rose. And 235 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,240 this may come as a surprise to our listeners, but 236 00:13:59,519 --> 00:14:04,919 in plant general or a different genus of plants, white 237 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,960 is actually the hardest color to develop, and so it 238 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,440 comes natural, you know, Like, try to find a viburnum 239 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,759 with a flower color other than white, you you won't 240 00:14:12,759 --> 00:14:15,080 really be able to do it. Whereas with some plants, 241 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:20,720 including roses, it is actually very difficult to develop a 242 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,559 white variety that is vigorous and floriferous. 243 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: I love that, and I love Oh So Easy roses 244 00:14:29,879 --> 00:14:34,440 because they're fantastic in the landscape as drifts. So if 245 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,679 you can add a drift of white, wow, right, that 246 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:38,399 is a deal. 247 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: You know, This is what I've seen consistently with those landscapers. 248 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,440 A nice hedge along the front of a home. Yeah, 249 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,519 a drift, a specimen flanking the front porch. You really 250 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,559 can't go wrong. But it literally did take us at 251 00:14:51,679 --> 00:14:54,200 least sixteen and if you count the you know, time 252 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,559 and development, probably closer to twenty years to actually finally 253 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,360 have a white rows in the Oh So Easy series. Now, 254 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:04,759 the O So Easy series of landscape roses are all 255 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,480 they're in that series because they are extremely disease resistant, 256 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,440 so they're fluoriferous. They bloom all summer without dead heading. 257 00:15:11,879 --> 00:15:13,720 But forc something to be an o So easy rose, 258 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:16,279 it really has to have the top of the line 259 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,240 disease resistance, so not getting powdery meldew, not getting black spot, 260 00:15:21,799 --> 00:15:23,559 and it took us a really, really long time to 261 00:15:23,639 --> 00:15:25,879 find that so oh so easy Ice bay is that plant. 262 00:15:25,879 --> 00:15:28,279 I'm super excited that it is available at garden centers 263 00:15:28,279 --> 00:15:31,600 this year for the first time. It has some of 264 00:15:31,679 --> 00:15:35,360 I think the glossiest, darkest green foliage I have ever 265 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,840 seen on any rows, which really just gives it that 266 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:43,840 extra landscape star power. It looks absolutely amazing. The flowers 267 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,360 are semi double, so when I say semi double, what 268 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:50,720 that means is that there are multiple layers of petals, 269 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:53,159 not just a single layer of petals. But you can 270 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,559 still see the center of the of the flower. And 271 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,759 that's really good if you want to tract pollinators, because 272 00:15:58,919 --> 00:16:01,039 if the pollinators can and if you can see the pollen, 273 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,440 so can the pollinators, which means that they will then 274 00:16:04,679 --> 00:16:07,200 be attracted to that. Now, this is a plant that 275 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:11,120 will bloom all summer long without any need to deadhead it, 276 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:14,440 which is a good thing, and it is self cleaning, 277 00:16:14,519 --> 00:16:16,679 So if you're not familiar with that term, a self 278 00:16:16,679 --> 00:16:19,320 cleaning rose is simply a rose that as the flower 279 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,440 starts to fade, the petals just kind of bust apart 280 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,720 and fall on the ground themselves. This is an especially 281 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,360 good thing in my opinion when it comes to white roses, 282 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,720 because most white roses, we have to face facts, do 283 00:16:32,799 --> 00:16:38,360 not age gracefully. They turn brown and can look pretty gnarly. 284 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,320 If they're not self cleaning, then you just kind of 285 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,279 get this like big brown sad clump of petals nodding 286 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,480 off of your plants. Whereas as a self cleaning rose, 287 00:16:47,919 --> 00:16:50,360 the paddles just shatter as the bloom ends. That makes 288 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:52,840 it not a great cut flower, but it does make 289 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,720 an excellent choice for the landscape. 290 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: You're right about that. With a white flower, if it 291 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,000 gets any kind of sort of blemish on it, yeah, 292 00:17:02,039 --> 00:17:02,919 it stands out. 293 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, And we definitely, I'm sure Adriana can attest. Photographing 294 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:10,119 white flowers can be very challenging because, yeah, any any 295 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,400 little one that starts to age, the brown really does show. 296 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,440 You're not going to see this like from a distance 297 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,279 in your garden. But when you really start getting in 298 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:19,680 there and digging in, that's when you'll see it. So 299 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:25,440 this is a very clean, very just nice looking, attractive 300 00:17:25,799 --> 00:17:28,640 rose that I think is a great problem solver. Now, 301 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,160 like most roses, it is going to need full sun 302 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,880 so that is a minimum of six hours of bright 303 00:17:35,079 --> 00:17:38,200 sunshine every single day, and that will give you the 304 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,720 very best you know flower set as well as that 305 00:17:41,759 --> 00:17:44,559 best disease resistance. That's very important. Even though we test 306 00:17:44,559 --> 00:17:47,839 our plants to be resistant to disease, you know, there 307 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,880 is a part of that of that exchange that depends 308 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,480 on where you plant it and how you care for it. 309 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:54,640 So that means you're going to plant it with good 310 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,079 air circulation, You're going to follow proper spacing. It does 311 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,960 reach two to three feet tall, and so you're going 312 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,200 to want to put it more space, more on the 313 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,559 two foot range if you are in a cooler climate, 314 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,960 more on the three foot range if you're in a 315 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,039 warmer climate. But proper spacing and good sunshine will do 316 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,440 a whole lot to help you prevent that black spot 317 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,039 and powdery mildew from from developing. Because they have good 318 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:20,759 air circulation and the foliage will dry out quickly. 319 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: And if you're keeping score at home, Stacy's talking about 320 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:29,240 oh so easy ice bay rose, and I'm excited about this. 321 00:18:29,839 --> 00:18:32,880 What popped into my head, Stacey, was a was a 322 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,559 marketing approach on this cool uh oh so easy ice 323 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,400 base bay rose. It took us twenty years to get 324 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:40,880 it white. 325 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,039 Speaker 2: That's good. 326 00:18:43,759 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: I can see it on a bill. 327 00:18:44,839 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: All right. 328 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,319 Speaker 3: I am going to pass that along to our ad 329 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,039 writers and we will give you credit for them. Sure, 330 00:18:50,759 --> 00:18:52,640 we would compensate you with a know so easy ice 331 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,559 bay rose. But I know you, like me, have deer, yes, 332 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,359 and yes, Unfortunately the deer do you love this much 333 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,119 to anyone's surprise because it is thorny, But the deer 334 00:19:01,279 --> 00:19:02,440 still do love it? 335 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: Now? Really cool. 336 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 3: Other thing about this plant hardy down to USDA Zone 337 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,720 three heat tolerant through USDA Zone nine. 338 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,039 Speaker 1: That's cold, that's hot. 339 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean that basically means that like ninety some 340 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,240 percent of this country can grow so easy ice bay rose, 341 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:21,039 which is very cool. That two to three feet tall 342 00:19:21,079 --> 00:19:24,160 and wide size, very useful for like a low hedge. 343 00:19:24,599 --> 00:19:26,880 You really this is not a plant that you can overdo, 344 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,319 so I think it kind of is really only limited 345 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,599 by your imagination. So if you want to use it 346 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,039 as an edging in a landscape, it works really well 347 00:19:35,079 --> 00:19:36,960 that way. If you want to just add it to 348 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,960 a flower garden, if you want to plant a big 349 00:19:40,039 --> 00:19:44,000 block of it, like you were talking about Rick in drifts, 350 00:19:44,079 --> 00:19:46,519 just very very versatile. And you will see too with 351 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,279 that foliage and Adrian Animals show pictures of it in 352 00:19:49,319 --> 00:19:51,279 the YouTube version, so you can check us out there. 353 00:19:52,039 --> 00:19:55,079 Just the foliage is just so unbelievably glossy, and that 354 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,799 is actually a characteristic that is strongly correlated with disease resistance, yes, 355 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:03,440 because it means it has a thicker cuticle and then 356 00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:06,680 is less likely to encourage the funngal leaf spots and 357 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,759 so forth to develop on that plant. So it's a 358 00:20:10,759 --> 00:20:13,119 special plant. I'm super excited that it is going to 359 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,440 be finally in garden centers. So if you've been thinking 360 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,319 about adding a rose and you don't know which one 361 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,039 you want and you just want a classic choice, oh 362 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:24,839 so easy ice Bay is definitely a good one, Rick, 363 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,400 I know you were talking about reminiscent Crama rose. That 364 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,039 one is also a great choice that is going to 365 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:31,680 be more fragrant, but it's going to have more of 366 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:36,759 a hybrid t type look, taller, bulkier, fuller flowers. Where 367 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:39,039 is Oh So easy? Ice Bay is really a workaday 368 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,319 landscape rose that you can put, you know, like you 369 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,960 would any other landscape shrub and enjoy summer's summer flowers 370 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,519 and enjoy flowers all summer long. So please do look 371 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:52,720 for that at your garden center this season as you 372 00:20:52,759 --> 00:20:55,960 go about your landscape shopping. We're going to take a 373 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,599 little bit of a break. When we come back, We've 374 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,680 got the garden mail bag to open, so stay tuned. 375 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,680 At proven Winner's Color Choice Shrubs. We know that a 376 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,759 better landscape starts with a better shrub. Our team of 377 00:21:12,799 --> 00:21:15,880 experts tests and evaluates all of our flowering shrubs and 378 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,279 evergreens for eight to ten years to ensure they outperform 379 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,599 what's already on the market. For easycare, reliable, beautiful shrubs 380 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,799 to accentuate your home and express your personal style. 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Do get quite a lot of 392 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,079 questions to the show, and not everyone is quite suitable 393 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,000 for a quick little segment on radio here, but we 394 00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:11,200 do want to help you out, so you can write 395 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:13,599 us there. But you can also write to Proven Winners 396 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,759 Color Choice dot com or Proven Winners dot com and 397 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,839 just click contact on both of those pages and you 398 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,160 will get a personalized answer from a horticulturist so that 399 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:25,640 you don't have to wonder anymore, because we want you 400 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,160 to be successful. So we've been definitely getting quite a 401 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,519 lot of questions, and I think that Elda's question today 402 00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:35,400 is a perfect way to start. 403 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,559 Speaker 1: Now, big, yeah, this is pretty cool, Elda writes to us. 404 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:41,839 I really enjoy listening to you from France as I 405 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,960 discover gardening in my new but old garden. Thank you, 406 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:51,680 thank you, Elda. Elda writes, I planted six quickfire fab 407 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,680 last autumn in twenty twenty four, is part of a hedge. 408 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,519 I noticed in spring that a particular plant is planted 409 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:02,920 too deep to crown, seen to be below the soil level. 410 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:05,519 So I'm wondering, should I take it out now late April, 411 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,279 do it this fall? If now I think it will 412 00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:10,799 slow down its flowering. If in autumn I think the 413 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,759 roots will be even more disturbed because they would have 414 00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:18,440 extra six months to develop. Also, I consider doing nothing. 415 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,720 But if the plant dies prematurely, then I'm back a 416 00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:26,480 few years in the hedge. Look, so what do you recommend? 417 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:29,599 Speaker 3: Okay, well, I don't know exactly where in France Elda 418 00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:34,359 is and if it's super warm, but my general recommendation 419 00:23:34,559 --> 00:23:37,920 in these situations is make the correction sooner than later. 420 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,640 And you know, because this plant was just planted this 421 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,400 past fall, it's not going to be rooted in super deeply. 422 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:50,599 You know, it's really only had you know what, six 423 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,240 eight months or something like that to grow. And really, 424 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,200 you know, after a plant is planted, it's not like 425 00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:58,720 putting on a ton of roots. It's really kind of 426 00:23:58,759 --> 00:24:01,119 just especially in full, just kind of recovering and put 427 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,839 on some root growth, but not a lot. And so 428 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,960 I would say, unless you are in a very very 429 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:08,680 warm part of France, now would be the perfect time 430 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,680 to go ahead and make that correction. I agree with you, Elda, 431 00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:14,200 that if you wait until fall and you give the 432 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,160 plant an extra six months of root growth, it's just 433 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,559 going to be harder on you and on the plant. 434 00:24:19,599 --> 00:24:21,920 And I don't really think that it will mess up 435 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,000 the flowering very much because I don't think you're really 436 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,160 going to disturb a whole lot of roots, to tell 437 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,839 you the truth, since it was just planted. And even 438 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,000 if it does, you know, somewhat impact the flowering. Yeah, 439 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,160 that's disappointed. But this is definitely a situation where a 440 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:37,480 tiny bit of short term pain is definitely going to 441 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:40,759 be worth it for the long term gain. So I'm saying, 442 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,680 put it on clear your schedule and get that done 443 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,759 as soon as possible. 444 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: And kudos to Elda for being observant and looking at 445 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:52,599 things like this. I think that that's great. I see London, 446 00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:56,079 I see France, I see problems with your plants. You 447 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,519 may use that one, Elda, if you'd like Genie writes 448 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:02,039 to us, how, Hello, Rick and Stacey. I planted several 449 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,480 Japanese maples last fall. I was very excited to see 450 00:25:05,519 --> 00:25:08,759 the new leaves butting out for spring, But on closer examination, 451 00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:13,240 I noticed something else. They were these very tiny black 452 00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:16,720 bugs all over the tree. Oh yeah, especially on the 453 00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:20,960 undersides of the leaves. Oh yeah, classic case. All four 454 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,240 of my Japanese maple trees were infested with them. Can 455 00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:27,440 you please help identify? Do I need to be concerned? 456 00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:29,400 If they are bad? Pass? How do I get rid 457 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,200 of them? Naturally? Please help? 458 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,519 Speaker 2: Yes? 459 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 3: So I so there are pictures, and of course you'll 460 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,480 see these in the YouTube version of the show, so 461 00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:41,240 you can check it out over there, unless your squeamished 462 00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:43,839 don't like pictures of bugs, which you know, I get. 463 00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:48,240 I actually do like pictures of bugs. These are aphids, 464 00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:51,039 and you know aphids. So we had a question last 465 00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:53,559 week about aphids, and I wanted to make sure that 466 00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:57,400 we answered Genie's question now because spring is aphed season. 467 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:04,240 Yep aphids adore the soft growth that's coming out right now, 468 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,039 and you know, I think a lot of people, most 469 00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:10,279 gardeners have had to deal with aphids at some point 470 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,200 or another, especially if they grow roses or spiria or 471 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,480 something like that. But I don't think a lot of 472 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:19,559 gardeners realize that aphids are masters of disguise in the garden. 473 00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:24,559 There it is very difficult to generalize about what aphids 474 00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:27,279 look like because they have a huge range of different 475 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,799 forms that they can take on. Some of them are 476 00:26:29,839 --> 00:26:33,720 going to be that really classic green aphid, and some 477 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:35,680 of them are going to be like this where they 478 00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:38,359 just look kind of almost like a little miniature beetle 479 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,319 or something and chameleons. Yeah, yeah, And so they're dark black, 480 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,319 they look kind of hard, and they're really concentrated around 481 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,160 the foliage. But you got to think about a maple, 482 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,000 there's just so much sweet and sticky nectar there. This 483 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,920 is like prime time for those aphids to hunker down 484 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,960 and start feeding from your plants. So definitely all very 485 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:07,279 characteristic of aphids. Fortunately, aphids are overall a pretty easy 486 00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:10,960 pest to manage, if they indeed even need management. In 487 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,759 my opinion, you know, there's I definitely tolerate a lot 488 00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:17,519 of aphids because you know, in an extreme case, on 489 00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:19,559 something like a rose, they can cause some kind of 490 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,799 drooping as they suck the juices out. But by and large, 491 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:25,000 the biggest threat to aphids, of course, is the mold 492 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,720 that grows on their excrement. If that's around. Yeah, the honey, honey. 493 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,599 Speaker 1: Their bark is worse than their bite. 494 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, But people freak out when they see them, 495 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,480 especially you know, Japanese maples are not usually the cheapest 496 00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:39,839 of trees, so you're are right to be concerned about 497 00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:43,000 your investment. So I believe, as I advised our listener 498 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,240 last week who had aphids on an ice ballet Esclepius, 499 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,279 I would just go out there and just kind of, 500 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,680 you know, rinse them off and rub the insects. They're 501 00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:55,240 very soft bodied, so it's very easy to just get 502 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,319 rid of them. I don't think you really even need 503 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,960 to use any kind of pestis. But you had mentioned 504 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,599 an insecticidal soap last time. 505 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would recommend insecticidle So but you make a 506 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,480 good point here, Stacey, and that is, if you're going 507 00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:10,640 to go through the trouble of that, do it when 508 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,559 the air is calm, and you have to get the 509 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,039 undersides of the leaves too. 510 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to really get in there, and you'll 511 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,960 see in the pictures that Genie sent that the you know, 512 00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:23,279 Japanese maples, they have very intricate leaves, so a lot 513 00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:26,640 of surface area in there for those little aphids to 514 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,559 kind of hide out. So I really think that trying 515 00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:33,200 to apply something is going to be difficult. So I 516 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,960 would either tolerate them or just try to rinse them 517 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,200 squish them off the best that you can. But overall, 518 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:42,279 the other thing you can do is what I recommended 519 00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:44,839 to that listener was the ladybugs. Yeah, you can get 520 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,400 ladybugs at most garden centers or order them online delivered 521 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,640 to your house. And if you release these ladybugs, hungry 522 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,960 ladybugs who have just arrived by mail onto a plant 523 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,599 that has aphids, they will make very short work of 524 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,000 them for you. 525 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: Heather has an important question. Hello from British Columbia, Canada. 526 00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:07,200 By the way, I love British Columbia. I've been there 527 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,240 a number of times. What a beautiful place. I recently 528 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:14,160 found your podcast and I am already a huge fan. 529 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,279 Thank you so much for the wealth of information you've 530 00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:21,000 provided to this new gardener. I planted several plants roughly 531 00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:23,559 two to three feet from where the natural gas line 532 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,640 runs on my property. While many of them have shallow 533 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:33,119 root systems, others I've second guessed myself conflower, Redbeccia, Latrus, agastaki, 534 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,920 and others. Is this safe or should I move them? 535 00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:41,400 Asap am I doomed to only plant low growing groundcovers 536 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,599 in these areas. 537 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,559 Speaker 3: Great question, Heather, and very timely too, so the first 538 00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:50,119 thing that I would recommend. I did search about this 539 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,160 a little bit, and generally speaking, it seems like most 540 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,599 utility companies are okay with planting near gas line as 541 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,039 long as you're not planting a tree, and trees have 542 00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:01,920 very different systems than anything else. You know, they get 543 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,720 those big, long, stabilizing roots. Those can be very disruptive 544 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:10,759 to sidewalks and all of that. Where perennials in most shrubs, 545 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:12,440 it's not really going to be an issue. They don't 546 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,640 put on that type of root system. Different utility systems 547 00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:19,519 do have different guidelines about this, So you might want 548 00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:20,920 to call your local gas company. 549 00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:21,799 Speaker 2: Don't worry. 550 00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:23,599 Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna say get those plants out 551 00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:26,759 of the ground right now. They're gonna tell you like, okay, 552 00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:29,039 you can be this many you know meters or whatever 553 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,359 from the gas line. I don't think they're gonna that 554 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,119 you're gonna get in trouble or have to dig up 555 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:37,200 what you grow. But I did want to mention, especially 556 00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:39,960 you know here in spring, when a lot of people 557 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,119 are setting out to do outdoor projects, it is a 558 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,519 good idea if you can to call and have your 559 00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:48,279 utilities marked. I believe you can call eight one to one. 560 00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:49,960 So you can call eight one to one and they 561 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,200 will come out and mark your uh mark the lines 562 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,559 for you so the till you are the cable, the guess, 563 00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:58,799 the electricity, the sewer, the water, all of that is. 564 00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:02,279 And they'll do that free because they don't want their 565 00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:05,119 lines to be damaged anymore than you want to damage them. 566 00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:07,599 And so it's a good idea. And once you do 567 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,920 that once you know, for myself, I had it done 568 00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:12,279 shortly after I moved into my house and I just 569 00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:17,400 took pictures, you know, of where everything was, and you know, 570 00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:19,599 so it's not really I know and I know that 571 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,759 I'm never going to plant anything, you know that's going 572 00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:23,680 to threaten those lines, because once I fund out where 573 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,319 they were, it was like, yeah, I'm not planting in 574 00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:28,200 that area, So it is. 575 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,119 Speaker 1: It eight, I'm not sure about Canada. 576 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: Now, Canada may be a different situation, but certainly for 577 00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:38,400 our viewers in the US, our listeners do call eight 578 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,759 one one first. It's a free service. They do need 579 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,599 some advanced notice, but especially if you're thinking about putting 580 00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:45,920 in a tree, it's a simple and fast way to 581 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,240 just make sure you would continue to do more good 582 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,039 than harm. 583 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: In British Columbia, click before youdig dot com. So there's 584 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,599 a one eight hundred number, all. 585 00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:59,039 Speaker 3: Right, So there you have it. No matter where you are, 586 00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:01,400 we've got you covered. We're going to take a little break. 587 00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:03,160 When we come back, we're going to talk about more 588 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:11,640 of our favorite white flowers, so please stay tuned. Thanks 589 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,319 for listening to the Gardening Simplified Podcast, brought to you 590 00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:17,640 by Proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs. Our award winning flowering 591 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,519 shrubs and evergreens are trialed and tested by experts with 592 00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,519 your success in mind. Learn more at Proven Winners color 593 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,000 Choice dot com. 594 00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:29,559 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show today for branching news, 595 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,839 Let's go down the list give you some ideas of 596 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,200 some white flowers that both Stacy and I enjoy in 597 00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:41,359 the landscape. Stacy there's a annual called Biden's Campfire Marshmallow. 598 00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:45,440 Love that thing. I had mentioned moonflowers and then of 599 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,880 course implants on trial. You talked about roses in your 600 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,960 right talk about classic white color in the landscape. For me, 601 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,559 it's pa andies. 602 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,119 Speaker 2: M Yeah, penies are pretty great. 603 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: Oh, when you're talking about white flowers in the garden, 604 00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:05,480 I mentioned sweet autumn clematis. Another fall bloomer that I love. 605 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,079 Are the fall blooming anemones. 606 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:08,559 Speaker 3: Oh. 607 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, Generally you'll find them in pink or mauve, but 608 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,319 you can get white ones and boy are they stunning 609 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,519 white Dutch iris. So you would plant those in fall. 610 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,880 It's a bulb iris and when they come up and 611 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,200 spring that white color. Again I mentioned in segment one, 612 00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:31,880 I love that white and lime green or white and 613 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,759 yellow combination. You'll find that with many tulip bulbs. Also, 614 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,440 you can find varieties that have that classic color. Now, 615 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,519 if you're looking to add spots of white in your 616 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,160 landscape and planting some annuals, Stacy, I know I've mentioned 617 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,960 it before, but I'm just such a huge fan of 618 00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:52,960 diamond frost. 619 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 3: You for you, ah, you know that is an all 620 00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:58,720 purpose plant. Well, maybe not quite all purpose. But I 621 00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:01,400 will tell you when I have been I usually put 622 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,480 my containers together in the garden center. You know, I 623 00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:06,400 always have some things I like to get, but you 624 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,880 know you can't count on it. Things are you know, 625 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,159 they change their inventory, your things sell out or whatever, 626 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:12,320 and so a lot of times I'll have this vision 627 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,119 and I won't be able to find like the exact 628 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:17,000 right thing to kind of marry everything together. Well, you 629 00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:19,719 know what, there is always diamond frost. It goes with 630 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,280 literally every color, and it just if you if you 631 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,440 aren't familiar with this plant, it's it's a little bit 632 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,360 hard to describe, but it is almost like a little 633 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,199 just puff of mist. The flowers are very very small, 634 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,719 So I think if you know what Euphorbia is, you 635 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,119 might be like, whoa euphorbia? This is very delicate, almost 636 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:42,440 wiry stems, just little tiny tufts of white and green 637 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,599 flowers at the ends of each of these stems. And yeah, 638 00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:48,840 it is the perfect filler for a container. And it 639 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,000 can marry together any color. So if you've gone, you know, 640 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:55,280 crazy on your on your colors and your containers, just 641 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,880 introducing some diamond frosts here and there will just kind 642 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,000 of again bring everything together and create that cocie. 643 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,599 Speaker 1: Agree. I've mentioned it on the show before that if 644 00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:07,360 you're doing an outdoor wedding, my daughter Stacy, we used 645 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,119 a lot of diamond frost Euphorbia. It was fabulous for 646 00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:17,559 an outdoor wedding. Hippo white hypostes O folka dot plant. 647 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,559 Speaker 3: I use that in my front where I have a 648 00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:20,199 lot of shade. 649 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course kalladiums. There are many white leafed 650 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,159 kalladiums that are beautiful. The Heart to Heart series with 651 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,440 proven winners. They have snow Flurry, White Wonder, White, Star Heart, 652 00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:37,880 all Beautiful, Stacy, Incredible Smooth high Drains. 653 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 3: Classic classic choice, and now we have Incredible Stormproof, which 654 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,639 is actually going to be officially on the market next year, 655 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,440 so that's going to be a smaller version of Incredible 656 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,960 with even sturdier stems. And then we also have in 657 00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:53,880 vincepell Wee White, So if you're looking for something smaller still, 658 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,599 we've got that one. So you can kind of get 659 00:35:56,599 --> 00:35:59,400 this plant in any size that suits your landscape and 660 00:35:59,440 --> 00:35:59,880 your goals. 661 00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: You know, one of my favorite classic white flowers in 662 00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:07,679 the landscape has got to be oak leaf hydrange Oh, 663 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,960 for sure, and I don't have it in my landscape, 664 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,199 but have read about it. Gatsby Moon. 665 00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 3: Oh, Gatsby Moon is a very cool plant. So that 666 00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:19,159 is a mophead oak leaf hydrange Okay, so most oak 667 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,559 leaf hydrangees are going to be lace capin and expose 668 00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:26,880 the fertile florettes to pollinators. Gatsby Moon is a mophead 669 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,639 and the flowers are very, very densely packed together. So 670 00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:32,920 if attracting pollinators is important to you, Gatsby Moon may 671 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,039 not be the best choice. But if you want that big, showy, 672 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,119 unforgettable flower, Gatsby Moon is absolutely gorgeous, really cool plant. 673 00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:44,079 Speaker 1: Well that's great. A lot of people like Namesia in 674 00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:48,920 their landscape because of the delicate flowers. There's Sunsatia coconut 675 00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:52,559 that would be a great addition of white to your landscape. 676 00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:57,559 The Cora white vinkas the boy. You're gonna have to 677 00:36:57,559 --> 00:36:58,519 help me, hear Stacey. 678 00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 2: Is that kathran Catheranthus. 679 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, Catheranthus right, yeah, So it's the thing, you know, 680 00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:10,800 these can handle hot sun, a wonderful flowering annual coral white. 681 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,679 And then of course I mentioned the mini vista white supertunias. 682 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,039 I think that if you want to put a blast 683 00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:23,280 of color in your landscape, mini vista supertunias are ideal 684 00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:29,800 and so easy to grow. Now Chardonnay pearls or Yuki snowflake. 685 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 2: Dutsia yep, classic choice right there. 686 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,119 Speaker 1: Talk about a great plant for a drift. 687 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 3: Right, yes, And that is an excellent plant as a groundcover, 688 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,599 shrub or for stabilizing a slope or anything like that. 689 00:37:41,639 --> 00:37:44,519 You know when you were listing those annuals, but you 690 00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:47,920 missed one of my favorites, and it's not the best known, 691 00:37:48,519 --> 00:37:50,519 but it is one that I rely on anytime I 692 00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:53,159 can find it, which is unfortunately not every year, and 693 00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:54,920 that is the white browolia. 694 00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:56,119 Speaker 1: Oh. 695 00:37:56,159 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 2: I love that plant, right Stacey. 696 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: And we always had difficulty selling it in the garden 697 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,000 center only because it hasn't. 698 00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, because people don't know, but it is I think 699 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,360 that a lark. A lot of garden centers have had 700 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,599 trouble selling it, and that's why it's hard to find now. 701 00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:16,880 But this is such a problem solving annual because it 702 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,800 is very shade tolerant and blooms well in the shade, 703 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,159 and it is deer resistant. 704 00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 2: And I will tell you. 705 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,639 Speaker 3: Almost every other annual that I have tried on my 706 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,639 front porch that is shade tolerant. The deer just devour, 707 00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:30,239 but not the Burwellia. And that not only does that 708 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,519 come in white, and it comes into a beautiful blue. 709 00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:35,880 So I usually get both of those and use them 710 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,039 on my front porch if I can find them. And yeah, 711 00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:40,920 I think that's a plant that just you know, has 712 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,960 so much to offer people who have really challenging conditions, 713 00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:46,000 and it is gorgeous and white. 714 00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:47,079 Speaker 2: I really really love it. 715 00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 3: Sorry, anyone, garden centers are listening, and you have some 716 00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:53,079 to sell, reach out to me because I usually can't 717 00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:53,519 find them. 718 00:38:55,159 --> 00:38:59,679 Speaker 1: Sweet Spider, it tea Flirty Girl false high drange. I 719 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,119 love the white blooms on that. 720 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,519 Speaker 3: Yeah you know I love that too. And Florida Girl 721 00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:08,400 is a special plant because it blooms earlier in its 722 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,320 life cycle than other climbing hydranges. And you know talking 723 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,920 about false hydrange of vines also formerly known as sky'safragma, 724 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:21,079 but now reclassified into hydrangea. Goodness, yes, exactly. There is 725 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:23,679 one variety. It's not a proven winner's variety, but it 726 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,400 is so special. It is actually called Moonlight and it 727 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,000 has gorgeous silver and green foliage. It does flower, and 728 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,920 the flowers are white and very pretty, but the foliage 729 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,400 on this thing is just stunning. It really really is 730 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,599 a special plant, and that silver in its leaves really 731 00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,320 will stand out even at night. So between the flowers 732 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,920 and that foliage, a great choice if you have a 733 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,760 special tree or something like that that you want to 734 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,320 grow a vine up that's not going to be problematic 735 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,119 but still bring you all of that magic. 736 00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:59,119 Speaker 1: Very nice. Other white bloomers that I would consider would 737 00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:02,599 be bottle brush shrub. We've talked about it on the 738 00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:07,039 show often, June berries or service berries, and spring The 739 00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:11,360 white flowers, in my mind, are just gorgeous, happy face 740 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:16,400 white potentilla, and of course a double file of viburnums, 741 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,280 the viburnum placatums. You have wabi sabi. 742 00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:23,159 Speaker 3: So wabi sabi we used to have. We actually dropped 743 00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:26,920 wabi sabi in favor of steady Eddie. That's right, because 744 00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,880 steadi Eddi's reblooming. And when I say steati Eddi is 745 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,599 a reblooming viburnum, I don't just mean like it peters 746 00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:36,079 out a couple more flowers later in the season. This 747 00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:39,320 thing is a powerhouse. You really can barely tell the 748 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,960 difference between its initial bloom late in spring and it's 749 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,800 rebloom through the summer. It is really one of the 750 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,800 most impressive rebloomers I have ever seen. I was tempted 751 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,639 to make it a plant on trial, but I love 752 00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:53,559 it so much I already had, so I had to 753 00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:54,320 find something different. 754 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: So that makes Steady Eddie a perfect choice if you 755 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,199 want to add white flowers to your landscape, Stacy, I 756 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,320 love the look of Kusa dogwoods when bloom. 757 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,599 Speaker 2: Yes, such a great plant. 758 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,519 Speaker 1: Chantilly lace, the runcus or goats beard great. And then 759 00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:11,760 of course there will be people out there saying, you 760 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,440 gotta mention Shasta daisy. 761 00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 2: Oh, like, yeah, of course you do. 762 00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:16,119 Speaker 1: There's so many great. 763 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 2: Casa Daisy's are such a classic. 764 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kali lilies. And then of course I love Scavola 765 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:26,960 Beautiful annual for hot conditions. The Star Diva series this year, 766 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,320 and there is a Star Diva white along with the 767 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:37,000 unplugged white salvia. And again, combining white with blue in 768 00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:39,920 the landscape really has a cooling effect. 769 00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:42,679 Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I do on my front porch. Well, 770 00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:45,320 when I can find the Brouellia. I have some really 771 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:50,000 beautiful royal blue containers and one white footed urn, so 772 00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:52,360 I put the white flowers in the blue containers, the 773 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,840 blue flowers and the white containers, so I like it. 774 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:56,719 It's a great combination. 775 00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:03,559 Speaker 1: Another flowering annual angel face white improved angelonia a great plant, 776 00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:05,559 and I would recommend you check out some of the 777 00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:11,519 recipes at provenwinters dot com for ideas with white flowers. 778 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,760 Of course, white bleeding hearts, and then of course your 779 00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:20,920 foam flowers like cutting edge and then finally stacy as 780 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,960 we get laid into the season. I love that classic 781 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,360 white look in ornamental kales and ornamental. 782 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 3: Cap and that's a fun one for sure. Yeah. I 783 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,320 love the foam flowers. I actually like the foam flowers 784 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,599 and the foamy bells more than ukrawe just because I mean, 785 00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:41,559 Hugrew is beautiful, but I love the kind of more 786 00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:44,599 rusticky look of the foam flowers in foamy bells, whereas 787 00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:48,119 the hugar are really shiny and refined. I like these 788 00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:49,480 a little more rougher on the edges. 789 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,119 Speaker 1: That's gorgeous. Well, you know, lots of choices if you 790 00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:55,760 want to add white to your landscape. And why not. 791 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,119 It's a classic approach to your landscape. 792 00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 3: It is, indeed, and I hope that gave you some 793 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,360 inspiration for planting this season as you head out to 794 00:43:04,559 --> 00:43:07,719 the garden center. So thank you Rick for that amazing 795 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,559 list of plant suggestions, thank you Adriana for your talent 796 00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:13,719 behind the camera and soundboard as always, and thanks so 797 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,559 much to all of you for listening and watching. We 798 00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:17,719 truly do appreciate it and hope you have a wonderful 799 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,079 weegad